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Hello folks. 
This is Princess. 

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You are listening to the 
Millennial Mustard See podcast. 

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Thanks for listening. 
Don't forget to share with your 

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friends. 
And you're listening to the 

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Stranger Clock podcast. 
But Michael is not with me. 

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It's just Rod and Jerry. 
That's tough. 

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We're in a very tough spot. 
I think that what we're doing 

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right now is a great benefit in 
virtue because it's an end 

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around between this whole 
corrupt. 

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Information System Media System 
It's time for the Strange 

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O'clock Podcast, where you get 
to hear strange news with 

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Christian views. 
We thank you for the breath of 

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life. 
I thank you for this 

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opportunity, Lord God, you say 
that we are to make declaration 

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of your glory and your majesty, 
Lord God, and to just stand. 

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Do all that we can to stand so 
in this day that we live in with

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the confusion and the darkness 
that's pinned against us. 

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I pray over this episode in the 
name of Jesus asking for wisdom 

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and gentleness. 
And that we would have a flavor,

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a salt in our speech, that it 
would help all who listen. 

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And I pray in the name of Jesus,
Name of Jesus. 

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Amen. 
Father God, thank you so much 

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for my brother Rod and his 
lovely wife and children. 

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And thank you, Lord, for what 
you've done in his life. 

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And and thank you, Lord, for 
what you're doing in in our 

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lives, Father God. 
And and just pray that you'd 

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fill our hearts and minds with 
your godly guidance, direction, 

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advice and wisdom. 
As well as your peace, 

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tranquility surrender to 
contentment and grace. 

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Let us say and speak and think 
whatever you want us to speak 

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and think and let our hearts and
minds be guided by your Holy 

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Spirit. 
And I just pray we'd talk about 

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our past as it relates to and 
redemption and how it glorifies 

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you in every way, shape and form
and and your how it glorifies 

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your love and kindness and your 
faithfulness, Lord, towards us. 

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And I just pray that you'd plant
seeds in people's hearts and 

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what cause or cause our podcast 
to water those seeds. 

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Either way, you give the 
increase Father and thank you 

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Lord for giving the increase and
use both of our podcasts to 

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reach hundreds, thousands of 
1,000,000 or just even that one 

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person, Lord God. 
If just one person comes to know

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Jesus as a result of our 
podcast, it's it would be so 

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much worth it. 
Father God and I know that with 

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the Rod's podcast I'm sure it's 
reached many, many more. 

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And thank you so much for his 
his humble and kind heart and 

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that he has such a servant's 
heart for you and and that that 

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he wants to to serve you Father 
God and by putting out not only 

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just information but but 
heartfelt spirit led 

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information. 
Look out through stories, 

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through red pill stuff or that 
you've shown us Father God and 

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and thank you Lord and thank you
for this disconnection. 

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Father God. 
And even if we don't meet each 

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other in person, what we know 
that we're going to meet each 

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other in heaven in person for 
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Father God, we thank you for 
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But we do pray, Lord, eventually
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to meet someday soon. 
Father in this life. 

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Father, we thank you Jesus. 
We pray to you, Thank you and 

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worship you. 
Lord in Jesus name. 

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Amen. 
Worship you, Father God. 

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Thank you, Jesus. 
Hi there. 

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I'm Jerry from the Millennial 
Mustard Seed Podcast. 

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And this is Rod from the Strange
O'clock Podcast. 

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And together we're the Strange 
Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.

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We're spreading this the strange
Millennial Mustard seeds all 

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over the world hopefully right 
now. 

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So people that might be confused
but we just wanted to say that 

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we are teaming up 5050 with 
hosting and Co hosting with each

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other and and we are we are each
other's guests. 

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We want to just split it right 
down the middle that I'm not 

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Ron's guest or he or he's not my
guest, but we're we're just, you

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know, joining forces together 
and we wanted to share our 

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testimonials with you all or if 
you're southern, with y'all. 

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Or if you're from Philly, you 
could say use guys, use guys, or

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if you're from Philly, use guys.
Testimony would choose. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah I like that would choose 

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right or from California you 
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share it with you guys and gal 
surfs up hang loose. 

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So I'm I'm so blessed to have 
Rod from Millennial Mustard Seed

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on our joint podcast and he's 
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and story. 
So Rod, can you tell me your 

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testimonial and how you came to 
know the Lord when you were 

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young and you want to share 
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you came to know the Lord? 
Well, it's a long story and I 

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have shared my testimony on the 
Days of Noah podcast and then on

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it was aired on my show as well.
And actually got a lot of 

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listener responses from that and
the feedback of people saying 

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more and more and more. 
So I'm like I'm still digesting 

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some of my experience, but I did
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So I'll start there. 
You know, I grew up very secular

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outside of Philadelphia, PA So 
it was diverse culture, you know

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there. 
There was a lot of things going 

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on, a lot of things to get 
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You know, with my dad's side of 
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spend too much time here, but 
he, his mother was an Italian 

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Princess. 
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Italy. 
She was Rose Maria Tavianna 

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Palante. 
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church, you know, for me, I grew
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Philadelphia, PA and I had good 
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They worked hard and they had 
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But for us it was kind of just. 
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doing, we were half entertaining
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So I didn't know much about the 
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experiences when I was younger. 
You know, I shared a little bit 

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on an episode that I did on the 
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aired on my show as well, just 
kind of touching some of these 

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climaxes. 
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things for me was I knew since I
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calling on my life. 
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God and to to really know what's
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Because I had an aunt and she 
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She was talking about the glory 
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She was talking about this God 
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brilliant light and love. 
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Right. 
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early 90s, so it's like a long 
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telephone cord, you know, and 
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my Batman toy and. 
I had this like I I want to say 

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it's an out of body experience. 
I still don't have the exact 

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language for it, but what 
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myself as a young kid playing 
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top corner of the room, and I 
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terrified me because I didn't 
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I didn't have the language for 
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know? 
And I tried to forget about that

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to be honest with you. 
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the phone and she was talking 
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Lord. 
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young life that was walking 
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me. 
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I'm going to represent this. 
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just, it was secular culture, 
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cheese steaks, You know what I 
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We, you know, we watch sports. 
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Just kind of really basic, you 
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hard. 
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was immersed in from a young 
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and I don't want to spend like a
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thing or another. 
I mean, it is emotional for me 

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to think of things back-to-back.
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cancer when I'm like 17 years 
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So she's she's white as a ghost.
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lost all the hair on her body. 
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laying in the bed. 
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chemotherapy. 
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I took her some tea and some 
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And this is just like a really 
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She's stopping chemo. 
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And I'm like, what are you 
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Like, in my mind, I'm like, what
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Like this is the medicine. 
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But like, I respected my mother 
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it from a place of like, listen 
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one more day of what the doctors
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to die. 
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that that's like that's like 
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this defining time where I'm 
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I'm like observing and watching 
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But this is like this 
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My mother, who's going to choose
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death and just over medicine, 
just it was it's wild. 

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Now that I look back on it, at 
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kind of confused and upset, like
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And this doesn't match up, you 
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Kind of shocked a little bit. 
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to argue what she has said she 
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So to this day, you know, we're 
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35. 
She looks like she's 30 years 

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old. 
Full head of hair, beautiful 

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smile and she's got the glow. 
So Long story short, she went to

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this, this church in Norristown,
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this this really dark, you know,
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cancer that she had. 
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something I always kind of held 
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burner, like what do I do with 
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I'm just going to hit some 
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I'm going to try to put a couple
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I didn't share on my previous 
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has been asking for quite some 
time for me to do like this 

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explanation. 
Like they want me to cover all 

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of it. 
And I'm like, I might need to 

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write a book because it's a lot.
It's like a lot of stuff, but. 

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I I get jumped. 
I have this out of body 

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experience and I get beat up by 
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I'm swollen from the back of my 
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face, like they try to kill me, 
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So I sit up out of my body. 
Now I'm really frustrated. 

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Like what is going to happen 
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How come I try to talk about 
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like religious people or like 
Christians and they're like kind

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of standoffish, Like what is he 
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We can't relate to that. 
Why are you, you know, like what

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happened to you, man, you're not
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Like you're, you're something 
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That's how I would feel. 
And that's kind of like what it 

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how the wall was up between like
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religions and churches. 
And then just my experience, now

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there's a lot of people like me,
but at the time you feel really 

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isolated, like, yo, is there 
something wrong with me, right? 

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Like, you know, like I've dipped
into this world that we don't 

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talk about that I shouldn't know
exists, but like, nobody wants 

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to reciprocate me on it. 
So that that was another thing 

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that, you know, I dealt with 
PTSD from that. 

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And as I'm growing up, you know,
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I can't decide what to do with 
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You know, I'm literally obsessed
with what was going to happen 

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when I die. 
And and I need to chew on this 

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experience. 
I need to forgive these people 

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because I I didn't want to hold 
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bitterness. 
I knew I had to forgive. 

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But at the same time, I'm like 
was more perplexed by the 

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experience, Like, so what's 
really going to happen when I 

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leave this temporary vessel? 
Because like, we don't talk 

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about that. 
That's not a that's not a common

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conversation, right? 
And if you go to the pastor, he 

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just wants to quit some 
scripture and just say be a good

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little boy and go on your way. 
And it's like, no, no, no. 

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I need to wrestle through this. 
So I end up moving to Florida. 

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I moved 2000 miles away. 
I get in a 95 accurate Integra 

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and I hit Interstate 95 and I go
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there for for a while now. 
I had twins when I was younger. 

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Beautiful, beautiful children. 
Riley in Seattle. 

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Yeah, they're just amazing kids 
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And there there's just so much, 
so much of the story, But I'll 

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share, I'll share this 
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I'm in Florida. 
I'm going through, I'm in the 

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gutter. 
I'm like going through life, 

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right. 
I didn't really have a good role

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model or good mentors. 
I didn't really have good, let's

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just say, direction. 
And I'm trying to do right from 

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like a secular standpoint, like 
like I'm like okay. 

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Well, if I don't smoke or if I 
don't drink. 

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Then I'll be able to hold a 
better job, right? 

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It's just like thinking like 
that, well, let's not do what I 

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was taught, right? 
Let let's actually change some 

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things up. 
So I struggled through that and 

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tried to do what was right. 
But but literally, you know, a 

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backslide. 
And I didn't really know the 

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Lord. 
Although I felt like a tugging. 

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Like, don't worry, it's going to
get better. 

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Something's coming. 
But like, it was just like 

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weird. 
I kind of wanted to like push it

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away because it was like. 
I don't know how to process 

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that. 
I don't know how to digest that.

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So that just stays over there. 
And this is reality. 

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I need to deal with this. 
And I was stuck in this, this 

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weird place for for a while and 
my daughter Sienna Okay. 

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This is emotional. 
But I I lived with them. 

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Their Their mother wasn't there 
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We're in Duval County in the 
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I think it was 32218 if I 
remember the zip code. 

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Wow, it's a good memory. 
They must have did something to 

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me when they beat me up cuz I 
can remember stuff that I'm like

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why do I remember that? 
Wow. 

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Amazing. 
She comes in to her and my son 

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have a room. 
I'm across the hall and there's 

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a bathroom in between us and she
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The room. 
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This is like 1:30, almost 2:00 
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And she's lit up like a light 
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morning. 
And I'm like, see, I know. 

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What are you doing? 
And she says, Dad, dad, they're 

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so beautiful. 
They're so beautiful. 

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Dad, you're And she's excited. 
And I jump up and I'm like, OK, 

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because we're in the city. 
I'm like, I'm, I want to run and

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check my doors. 
I'm like, what is going on? 

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And she says no, no dad, Dad. 
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like we didn't go to church. 
So she doesn't have language to 

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talk about anything other than 
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But she says no, dad, the angels
are so beautiful. 

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They're so she didn't even say 
angels, but she just kept saying

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they're so beautiful. 
And I'm like, she's glowing. 

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She's wide awake. 
I'm like, OK, so I get kind of 

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get down on her level like eye 
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I'm like, so what's going on 
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And she's just like she. 
This is going to make me all 

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that she wants to dance, and 
she's just like in Cloud 9, like

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that. 
They're so beautiful. 

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It's going to be okay, she says.
And little does she know, she 

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she didn't know. 
Nobody else knew. 

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But weeks before that, a storm 
blew in and I had the front 

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door. 
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And like, there's this storm. 
It's like a whatever like 

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Category 3 or 4. 
Hurricane or whatever they call 

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them, the tropical storms down 
there. 

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And I'm beating the ground 
crying out to God and I'm just 

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like had this moment with them, 
you know? 

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And like I haven't talked about 
like this, this portion with my 

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daughter and what she 
experienced and and sharing this

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before. 
So forgive me if it chokes me up

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a little bit, but I I am beating
the ground and literally 

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screaming on top of my lungs. 
And I'm doing it during this 

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storm because I'm like, I don't 
want my neighbors to think I'm 

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like a crazy psychic. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like I'm still somewhat logical,
but I didn't really care. 

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So now Fast forward to to when 
my daughter is is telling me 

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that she encountered 3 beautiful
beings, right? 

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She just says dad, they're so 
beautiful and it's going to be 

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okay and I'm skeptical. 
I'm still looking and I look out

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the window and I say Sienna 
bright like that because she 

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kept saying they're so bright, 
they're so bright and we have a 

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street light that's out there. 
You can just see one of the 

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street lights from the window, 
She says no, no, no, no Dad, 

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nothing like that. 
They are bright and beautiful. 

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And now I'm like, OK, And she 
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now I'm like choked up. 
I'm like, OK, this kid is 

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flipping the whole entire thing 
upside down on me. 

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I'm having like a moment that I 
can't explain. 

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And she says Dad, God heard your
prayer. 

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And they're so beautiful. 
And you don't need to worry, 

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Dad. 
God's pleased, she said. 

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God's pleased with your prayer 
and this. 

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This wrecked me, you know? 
And so she goes on just to tell 

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me how beautiful they are. 
And I'm trying to extract as 

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much information as I can from 
her. 

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But. 
It's just it wrecked me, you 

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know, put me on this, this, this
journey where it's like I am, I 

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am humbled because, like, I I 
like, who am I? 

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Did I pray, right? 
Because I felt like I was really

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angry at God when I prayed. 
I didn't like from what I knew 

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or like what I was like hearing 
about Christianity. 

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I'm like, that's not the right 
way to come to him, you know, 

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like out of just like, help me. 
Are you there? 

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Are you real? 
Like, you know, just this is 

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like wild prayer I had. 
And Oh yeah, she did going to 

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tell me that that the three 
angels that that she had met 

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were the three that were going 
to take me, Riley and her into 

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heaven. 
And she said, Dad, don't worry. 

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It's not going to be too long. 
And I remember keep saying, 

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like, what do you mean by it's 
not going to be too long? 

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She said Dad, Dad, don't worry. 
And she's just little like she's

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others. 
Just don't know how she could 

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ever have a vocabulary for this 
stuff. 

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She's saying, Dad, it's not 
going to be too long, Don't 

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worry. 
They're the ones that are going 

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to take us to God. 
God was pleased with your 

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prayer. 
It's going to be okay Dad. 

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She just kept saying that. 
And so, like, that wrecked me. 

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You know, I end up coming back 
to Pennsylvania. 

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Not by choice. 
You know, at the time I, you 

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know, was in in some trouble. 
Nothing violent, but I had to 

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appear for court in 
Pennsylvania. 

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They were going to expedite me. 
I had like my mom calls me one 

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day and like 5 or 6 police 
officers surround the house 

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looking for me. 
I'm that 2000 miles away or 

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whatever, 1000 miles away, 
whatever it is from Florida to 

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Lake Philadelphia. 
And so I'm like, in order to be 

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able to maintain normality and 
grow, I. 

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So I have to turn myself in, 
right? 

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And a lot of what my daughter 
had had told me that night gave 

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me the strength to face things 
that I was like, I'm good. 

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I don't want nothing to do with 
that. 

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I don't want to go there. 
I don't want to deal with life. 

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I don't want to be confronted by
just, you know. 

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The idiot past that I had and 
bad decisions that I had, I like

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was totally content with being 
as far as I could from where I 

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grew up and the people and and 
everything. 

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But she gave me by what she told
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strength. 
Like okay, this is this is 

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weirder than I ever thought. 
God had to have heard me. 

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I mean, you can't make this up 
like this kid is too young to 

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know this, right? 
Like I'm all this stuff's 

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running through my mind. 
So she a lot of that gave me the

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strength to then just be like, 
I'm going to face everything and

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I'm not gonna back down ever 
again. 

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Like I'm just gonna. 
And how old was your daughter? 

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She's like three, 3, 1/2 at the 
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Oh, she was super little, very 
young. 

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She's young. 
Yeah, that's amazing. 3 1/2 

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years old. 
So And you know that it was 

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supernatural because she doesn't
have the religious background to

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share this kind of supernatural 
experience. 

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Wow, that gives me chills. 
Seriously, that's awesome. 

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Yeah. 
And and to just Fast forward 

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from that, you know to 
contribute to my testimony, I'll

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come back to Pennsylvania. 
My sister, I'm the youngest of 

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three. 
My my sister's taking me to 

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church in Norristown and I'm 
here in Romans 8 Romanstown. 

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I just, I'm remembering some 
verses and I'm really on this 

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like teetertotter of like the 
the scripture was all who call 

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upon the name of the Lord will 
be saved. 

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And I remember thinking like, 
does that include me? 

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Like in like 2013 or whatever 
this year was by the time I'm 

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back and and and in the church 
here in PA, I'm going. 

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But does that include me? 
Because like, now I'm opening 

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the Bible and I'm reading it and
I'm like, like these are ancient

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stories about ancient people. 
Like that doesn't have nothing 

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to do with me today. 
But like I was asking that 

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question, does that include me? 
And so I find myself in in the 

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court and Judge Danielle decides
not to lock me up. 

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She actually gives me a purge of
release agreement. 

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She looks at me. 
She says, Mr. Smith, something's

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changed with you. 
You're going to do what's right.

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I said yes, ma'am, I'm out. 
So, like, I'm not going to get 

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locked up. 
I have fines, I got to get my 

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license reinstated, all this 
stuff. 

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But now God's got my heart. 
Like I surrendered my heart And 

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I'm like, okay, this does 
include me. 

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And ever since then it's been a 
slow, like, bumpy. 

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There's been plateaus, but it's 
been like upwards. 

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And it's just been a wild 
journey. 

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I just shared what I shared 
there because like. 

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That's stuff that I left out of 
other climax, as I shared on my 

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testimony. 
Because they're so emotional and

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I literally just don't want to. 
I'm like just like a, you know, 

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shave my head and a beer and I'm
like, I don't want to be 

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balling, No, if you want to, 
please feel free. 

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I almost started dwelling up. 
I I had to to mute myself 

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because I had the sniffles as a 
result of how emotional I was 

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getting through your awesome 
story about that. 

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So after your your daughter had 
said that at age 3, how many 

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years was it before you really 
felt like you gave your life to 

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the Lord? 
And what was that pivotal point?

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Well, if it was when I was in 
the courtroom for the last time,

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I mean, I was going to church. 
And like I said, I remember 

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hearing, like Romans, all called
upon the name of the Lord will 

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be saved, and there's no 
condemnation to those who in 

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Christ Jesus. 
But I surrendered my heart. 

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Right. 
Like I'm trying to walk better 

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and cleaner. 
But like, there was this moment 

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where I can't do this on my own.
I my efforts are just, it is 

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bullcrap. 
I have nothing to offer. 

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I'm just worthless in all of 
this. 

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But there's something about you.
God, Jesus, I need you. 

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I need you to be with me. 
I need you to give me the 

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courage. 
I need you to reinvent me. 

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I need you to literally come 
alongside of me and make sure 

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that I can walk in a way that. 
Is going to going to make me be 

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the man that you're calling me 
to be. 

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Because I can't visualize what 
that looks like. 

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But I know I know I'm being 
tugged And so so it was at that 

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moment where like my heart 
surrendered. 

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Now I'm I'm, I'm a big believer 
and like we continually wrestle 

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with the flash daily and we 
continually surrender like in 

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obedience, right. 
Like I think when the apostle 

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Paul was talking about, for 
example, he's terrified of not 

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fulfilling. 
This high calling in the new in 

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the New Testament, I think he's 
talking about losing his reward 

443
00:23:51,070 --> 00:23:54,470
in heaven, not his salvation. 
I think he was running the race 

444
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:57,430
for like the greater treasure 
treasures in heaven. 

445
00:23:57,630 --> 00:23:59,710
I don't think he was fearful of 
losing his salvation. 

446
00:23:59,710 --> 00:24:01,950
So I'm not like a once saved 
always saved God. 

447
00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:05,030
But I believe that if it's a 
heart thing, so it depends on 

448
00:24:05,030 --> 00:24:08,230
how our heart is before God. 
It depends on how we come to him

449
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:10,670
and just if we're real with him 
or not. 

450
00:24:10,910 --> 00:24:14,430
Like like having the reality of 
like we can't hide nothing from 

451
00:24:14,430 --> 00:24:16,380
him. 
So if we start to talk to him 

452
00:24:16,380 --> 00:24:19,580
like there's nothing hidden. 
If we start to walk like God, I 

453
00:24:19,580 --> 00:24:21,940
know you see me stumble. 
I know you see me think this 

454
00:24:21,940 --> 00:24:23,020
way. 
I know you see me in my 

455
00:24:23,020 --> 00:24:25,620
mistakes. 
But I trust you and and I'm 

456
00:24:26,060 --> 00:24:29,700
desiring A deeper walk with you 
when your word is the only light

457
00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:32,460
that ever showed me the time I 
wasted in the darkness. 

458
00:24:32,660 --> 00:24:36,020
If we're real with ourselves 
like that, I think God will 

459
00:24:36,340 --> 00:24:40,500
continue to work on us and and 
bring us into this place where 

460
00:24:41,180 --> 00:24:45,210
we're usable, I guess, for Him. 
So that's kind of, it is really 

461
00:24:45,210 --> 00:24:47,610
a long drawn out story. 
I know it might sound crazy to 

462
00:24:47,610 --> 00:24:51,690
somebody listening, but it 
really is a long drawn out 

463
00:24:51,690 --> 00:24:56,850
story. 
Do you think that with your 

464
00:24:57,690 --> 00:25:00,770
daughter at age 3 saying, yo 
dad, I see that they're so 

465
00:25:00,770 --> 00:25:03,330
beautiful and insinuating that 
there were angels? 

466
00:25:03,330 --> 00:25:06,330
Do you think that that was a 
result of your mom's fervent 

467
00:25:06,330 --> 00:25:08,730
prayers for you and your your 
little ones? 

468
00:25:10,690 --> 00:25:12,450
I I don't know. 
That's a good question. 

469
00:25:13,490 --> 00:25:16,890
I don't know. 
Did she ever say that she was 

470
00:25:16,970 --> 00:25:19,090
praying for you? 
Did she ever say? 

471
00:25:19,090 --> 00:25:21,690
She was praying for you. 
I had a pastor in Norristown 

472
00:25:21,690 --> 00:25:23,970
praying for me at the time. 
My sister and my mother were 

473
00:25:23,970 --> 00:25:25,210
praying for me at the time, 
yeah. 

474
00:25:25,890 --> 00:25:28,290
And in Florida, we weren't 
attending churches. 

475
00:25:28,290 --> 00:25:32,250
Like, I pulled a Bible out a 
couple times in Florida and like

476
00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:34,930
red. 
But it was more or less like it 

477
00:25:34,930 --> 00:25:37,530
felt like I was awake and asleep
at the same time at that part of

478
00:25:37,530 --> 00:25:39,010
life. 
Like I really just felt like I 

479
00:25:39,010 --> 00:25:41,110
was. 
Didn't know who I was. 

480
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:42,630
Didn't know where I was supposed
to be going. 

481
00:25:42,670 --> 00:25:45,390
You know, I have these two 
beautiful kids that I need to 

482
00:25:45,390 --> 00:25:48,710
take care of and PTSD is just 
spinning in my head. 

483
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:54,270
So to really look back on it it 
it had to have been someone 

484
00:25:54,270 --> 00:25:59,230
praying for me. 
It, you know, God, he heard my 

485
00:25:59,230 --> 00:26:03,550
prayer out of the mouth of a 
babe, he he confirms. 

486
00:26:03,550 --> 00:26:06,750
Listen, I heard you beat the 
ground and cry out to me and. 

487
00:26:08,850 --> 00:26:13,250
I'm so sorry. 
I'm so sorry that you had to go 

488
00:26:13,250 --> 00:26:18,090
through that with these horrible
people beating you up. 

489
00:26:18,130 --> 00:26:20,650
And I'm sure through it was only
through the Lord Jesus that 

490
00:26:20,650 --> 00:26:22,210
you've been able to forgive them
and. 

491
00:26:22,490 --> 00:26:26,010
And that he has healed your 
heart and your mind. 

492
00:26:26,130 --> 00:26:29,210
And and I I can see that the 
Lord has really done a work in 

493
00:26:29,210 --> 00:26:31,730
you. 
I can see the glow in your face 

494
00:26:31,730 --> 00:26:34,970
and I can tell that that's from 
the Lord and I can see the peace

495
00:26:34,970 --> 00:26:37,010
in your heart. 
And and that's definitely, 

496
00:26:37,010 --> 00:26:40,930
you're definitely a walking, 
talking millennial testimonial 

497
00:26:41,090 --> 00:26:42,690
for what God is done in your 
life. 

498
00:26:42,690 --> 00:26:44,850
That's that's amazing. 
That's great. 

499
00:26:45,090 --> 00:26:49,250
So did you get into podcasting 
before or after you met your 

500
00:26:49,250 --> 00:26:51,970
wife, Princess? 
Oh yeah. 

501
00:26:51,970 --> 00:26:57,570
So no, We were married when I 
was at work and I was listening 

502
00:26:57,570 --> 00:27:00,450
to podcasts and I was like, 
listening to, like, Bigfoot 

503
00:27:00,450 --> 00:27:04,570
podcasts and like, Canary Cry 
radio with thousands of guns. 

504
00:27:04,570 --> 00:27:06,410
Like I have this like mini 
playlist going. 

505
00:27:07,780 --> 00:27:12,220
And other guys were kind of 
making fun of me because I, I, 

506
00:27:12,220 --> 00:27:14,140
like, didn't really have nobody 
to talk about the stuff with. 

507
00:27:14,140 --> 00:27:16,900
So I bring it up a little bit, 
you know, like Tesla waters with

508
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:18,700
like other Christians and other 
people. 

509
00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:21,500
And it was like, get out of here
with that, Like, what are you 

510
00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:23,300
talking about? 
Like it was just like that's 

511
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:26,820
myth, that's legend, you know? 
And I remember even people using

512
00:27:26,820 --> 00:27:30,740
some scriptures to try to make 
me seem like I was in error. 

513
00:27:31,060 --> 00:27:33,780
Surely you do error from the 
scriptures, brother, right? 

514
00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:36,420
Like I survive. 
I'm getting but I'm like I don't

515
00:27:36,420 --> 00:27:38,310
care. 
Well, you guys say, I was 

516
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:41,030
testing the waters, right? 
But I know what God is saying in

517
00:27:41,030 --> 00:27:43,070
my heart. 
I know that the things that are 

518
00:27:43,070 --> 00:27:46,430
being pressed upon me, it's 
there's great exploits there yet

519
00:27:46,430 --> 00:27:50,550
to be done. 
Not at the time knowing that the

520
00:27:50,550 --> 00:27:53,110
scriptures would say things like
it's the glory of God to conceal

521
00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:55,670
the matter, but the duty of, you
know, the Princess to seek it 

522
00:27:55,670 --> 00:27:57,950
out. 
But now I start a podcast and I 

523
00:27:57,950 --> 00:28:00,910
just had this crazy idea. 
I think I was listening to Basil

524
00:28:00,910 --> 00:28:03,830
and Gonz at the time, and all of
this stuff's going on in my 

525
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:05,470
mind. 
I have this like personal 

526
00:28:05,470 --> 00:28:06,910
journey where it's not just 
like. 

527
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,240
I'm infatuated with someone 
else's story. 

528
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,560
But like, I literally am 
wrestling through, how do I make

529
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,840
sense of my own story? 
Like, how do I look somebody in 

530
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,840
the eyes, sit in front of them 
and be like, yes, this happened 

531
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,440
to me, like, how do I do that, 
right? 

532
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,880
Because there's just like so 
much for me to try to make sense

533
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,360
of that. 
I'm like, why don't I take a 

534
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:27,320
step of faith and start, start a
podcast? 

535
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,080
Let me just take a step. 
I'm going to start talking about

536
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,880
what's on my mind, what's going 
on, and capture this growth 

537
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,760
experience to see, to document 
it in a way. 

538
00:28:38,330 --> 00:28:41,050
I knew I wasn't alone, but I 
know that nobody else was 

539
00:28:41,050 --> 00:28:42,970
around. 
That was like fanning the faint,

540
00:28:44,010 --> 00:28:46,170
the flame of faith in me. 
They weren't. 

541
00:28:46,170 --> 00:28:48,090
They was always like, get out of
here with that. 

542
00:28:48,090 --> 00:28:50,610
Like, I saw I'm like, no, no, 
no, there's something here. 

543
00:28:51,210 --> 00:28:53,370
And I kind of just followed 
that, that talking. 

544
00:28:53,370 --> 00:28:57,930
So yeah, I think it was like 
2018, I was preparing to do a 

545
00:28:57,930 --> 00:29:00,810
podcast, but 2019. 
A friend of mine, Nick Long, 

546
00:29:01,170 --> 00:29:03,530
does this Jacob's Ladder 
Challenge, which is like. 

547
00:29:04,650 --> 00:29:07,690
He's on this like a ladder 
workout piece of equipment, but 

548
00:29:07,850 --> 00:29:09,730
he does the height of Mount 
Everest. 

549
00:29:09,770 --> 00:29:11,810
I forget what it is. 
I think it's like 8 or 9000 

550
00:29:11,810 --> 00:29:14,610
feet. 
So he does that in in steps. 

551
00:29:14,610 --> 00:29:16,130
It takes him like 8 hours to do 
it. 

552
00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:20,130
He does it, catches local 
traction, you know, he's got 

553
00:29:20,130 --> 00:29:22,690
this like, muscle shirt on that 
says give God the glory. 

554
00:29:22,690 --> 00:29:24,730
So when they ask him why he did 
what he did, he holds up the 

555
00:29:24,730 --> 00:29:27,090
shirt and he's like, I'm just 
giving God the glory. 

556
00:29:27,090 --> 00:29:31,090
And like, me and him were like 
laughing about that. 

557
00:29:31,090 --> 00:29:32,810
We're like, man, this is like, 
so cool like. 

558
00:29:33,530 --> 00:29:36,010
Let's tell that story. 
So like, actually the very first

559
00:29:36,010 --> 00:29:40,170
podcast, Not of This World, it 
was Jacob's Ladder was episode 

560
00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:43,330
one with me and Nick talking 
about me and him both doing just

561
00:29:43,330 --> 00:29:45,050
like radical crazy stuff of 
faith. 

562
00:29:45,050 --> 00:29:47,490
Like we're like, we're going to 
go against the norm, we're going

563
00:29:47,490 --> 00:29:50,210
to go inculcate these areas, and
we don't care if you guys like 

564
00:29:50,210 --> 00:29:52,770
it or not. 
It was just like kind of 

565
00:29:52,770 --> 00:29:56,850
starting starting the podcast. 
It was there so that with the 

566
00:29:56,850 --> 00:29:58,650
Millennium Muster seed, I just 
reinvented it. 

567
00:29:59,030 --> 00:30:01,670
Based upon, like you know, 
prayer and deep dives. 

568
00:30:01,670 --> 00:30:05,030
Guys like Chuck Missler 
especially for like fundamental 

569
00:30:05,030 --> 00:30:10,590
on helping me see how the word 
and the depth of the word of 

570
00:30:10,590 --> 00:30:13,070
God, it surpasses our wildest 
imagination. 

571
00:30:13,470 --> 00:30:16,870
And there is no sacred secular 
divide like we can run to the 

572
00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:18,590
word. 
With all these topics, all these

573
00:30:18,590 --> 00:30:22,310
questions, it doesn't matter 
what what's going on. 

574
00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:25,510
Like the the word is is there to
give us edification to. 

575
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:28,340
Teach us to rebuke us to to 
encourage us. 

576
00:30:28,340 --> 00:30:31,020
Right. 
And so the millennial mustard, 

577
00:30:31,020 --> 00:30:33,860
see, was born out of just. 
I felt small and insignificant 

578
00:30:34,060 --> 00:30:35,700
in my generation. 
I didn't. 

579
00:30:37,300 --> 00:30:40,140
I just didn't really feel like 
recognized or like I had impact.

580
00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:44,020
But I knew that God could do 
something great if I just 

581
00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:46,020
surrendered it to him. 
So I felt like I had this little

582
00:30:46,020 --> 00:30:48,860
tiny thing to offer. 
In a weird way, that's kind of 

583
00:30:48,860 --> 00:30:52,350
how it how it came out. 
So yeah, well, I love the name 

584
00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:55,190
millennial mustard seed. 
I think I told you last time how

585
00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:59,350
much I just think it's the, the,
the most awesome podcast name 

586
00:30:59,350 --> 00:31:03,190
for millennials. 
And And I love how when Jesus 

587
00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:05,790
talks about the mustard seed, 
that if you have faith the size 

588
00:31:05,790 --> 00:31:08,430
of a mustard seed, you could say
that this mountain be removed 

589
00:31:08,430 --> 00:31:10,110
and flung into the sea. 
It should be done for you. 

590
00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:13,430
And I always like thought about 
like, gosh, how small is the 

591
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:15,350
mustard seed? 
And and I heard it's pretty 

592
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:16,870
small. 
It's I mean it's smaller than 

593
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:20,190
the typical seed and and if you 
think of the smallest seed it's 

594
00:31:20,190 --> 00:31:22,670
even smaller than that almost 
like a little speck. 

595
00:31:23,030 --> 00:31:27,030
And and it's it's amazing that 
you being a quote millennial 

596
00:31:27,270 --> 00:31:30,710
have have faith at least the 
size of a mustard seed and 

597
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:33,990
you're you're scattering those 
seeds of faith among your peers 

598
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:39,110
and people that are younger and 
older like myself and that 

599
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:43,870
you're really you share it 
boldly and with love and I can 

600
00:31:43,870 --> 00:31:47,670
see that you really have a heart
to to win the lost generation 

601
00:31:47,670 --> 00:31:49,670
for Christ. 
And and I think that that is 

602
00:31:49,670 --> 00:31:52,270
amazing and awesome. 
You know so if anybody happens 

603
00:31:52,270 --> 00:31:56,110
to you know maybe they say and 
and shake their fist or whatever

604
00:31:56,110 --> 00:31:59,790
like oh this generation you know
millennials and why Generation Y

605
00:31:59,790 --> 00:32:03,830
and seeing everything but God is
reaching the young folk that God

606
00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:06,910
is reaching. 
You know the the real young ones

607
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:10,390
all the way up to you know 
through your generation and 

608
00:32:10,990 --> 00:32:12,790
through mine which is generation
X. 

609
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:17,270
And I forget that the whole like
what I know generation X is like

610
00:32:17,470 --> 00:32:20,910
I think the 70s and mid 80s and 
I think millennials are right 

611
00:32:20,910 --> 00:32:23,150
after that I believe. 
I think more what? 

612
00:32:23,150 --> 00:32:27,520
85 to 95, I forget. 
They they say it's like 84. 

613
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,440
I think to like 99 is like OK 
that's. 

614
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,640
Right. 
But I've heard it's. 

615
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,240
I've heard other people say no, 
it goes all the way to 2000. 

616
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,080
It goes all the way back to 
1979. 

617
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,160
I've heard, but I oh wow, I 
don't remember the year. 2000 

618
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,200
you know, like I'm like, I don't
know, 12 years old and the Y2K, 

619
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,600
right? 
All that stuff, so right. 

620
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,560
Oh my gosh. 
Wow, that's amazing. 

621
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,680
Kind of right, right smack that 
in the middle of the millennial 

622
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:51,720
generation there. 
So. 

623
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,680
So how did you meet your lovely 
wife who was Filipina? 

624
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,120
How did you meet your lovely 
wife, Princess? 

625
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,560
Yeah. 
So we talked online as just like

626
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,560
friends and she was in Jersey 
and and I'm right outside of 

627
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,240
Philly. 
So there's a bridge apart, You 

628
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,360
know, we talked for like a year 
or two and she wanted to learn 

629
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,720
English better. 
And so I'm like okay. 

630
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,240
Well, I'll help you with your 
pronunciation and just help you 

631
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,440
with English and. 
The first time, you know, 

632
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,920
because it was just through, 
like, messaging. 

633
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,760
Like chat rooms were like really
big. 

634
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,720
And, you know, like social media
was like huge. 

635
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,840
Then, not as much Now for me, 
it's almost like overwhelming. 

636
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,600
But like, then it was like kind 
of cool because it was like 

637
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,200
brand new, you know what I mean?
And so I remember the first time

638
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,880
I talked with her on the phone. 
I just like, I melted when I 

639
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,720
heard her voice when she was 
trying to pronounce things. 

640
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,880
I'm like, you got the cutest 
voice I've ever heard in my 

641
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,120
life, so. 
This is, this is great. 

642
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,960
I'll help you. 
And we just talked for probably 

643
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,880
like a year or two, just as 
basic friends like let's just, I

644
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,040
want to learn about your 
culture. 

645
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,760
And she wanted to learn about 
America because she was newer to

646
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,360
America at the time. 
And I remember when my 

647
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,520
grandfather died and he was like
the head of the family. 

648
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,920
I mean our family like slowly 
got ripped apart as all these 

649
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,240
years went on. 
But he was kind of like a glue, 

650
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,570
like he did Sunday dinners. 
Like everybody would go there on

651
00:34:10,570 --> 00:34:12,969
Sunday and he would cook a big 
meal like every weekend. 

652
00:34:12,969 --> 00:34:17,889
So that was cool. 
But he passes away and I get a 

653
00:34:17,969 --> 00:34:22,690
FaceTime call from Princess my 
my wife now and you know, she's 

654
00:34:22,690 --> 00:34:26,449
wearing all black and she's 
like, yeah, I guess she had she 

655
00:34:26,449 --> 00:34:28,449
had found out through maybe 
Facebook at the time that he 

656
00:34:28,449 --> 00:34:31,889
passed and she's just like, I 
was hoping you were okay. 

657
00:34:31,889 --> 00:34:33,690
I wanted to check on you and I'm
like, I'm good. 

658
00:34:33,690 --> 00:34:34,810
I just don't really feel like 
talking. 

659
00:34:34,810 --> 00:34:37,530
And like I noticed throughout 
like a, it was probably like a 

660
00:34:37,530 --> 00:34:40,179
week or two. 
Every time she would reach out 

661
00:34:40,179 --> 00:34:43,020
to me or that I would even check
like social media at all, she 

662
00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:44,699
had a picture. 
She was dressed in all black. 

663
00:34:44,940 --> 00:34:49,179
I'm like, so I asked her, I'm 
like, what's going on here? 

664
00:34:49,179 --> 00:34:51,540
Like, like, what does that mean?
She's like, well, that's how we 

665
00:34:51,540 --> 00:34:53,300
mourn for somebody that we care 
about. 

666
00:34:54,260 --> 00:34:57,740
So we we dress in all black 
after somebody that our heart is

667
00:34:57,740 --> 00:35:00,740
for and they have a devastating 
loss, whether it be a job or 

668
00:35:00,740 --> 00:35:02,700
family member. 
It was like a cultural thing. 

669
00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:04,860
So she was expressing it, but 
never like. 

670
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,400
Hey, I'm doing this like, she 
just did it. 

671
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,800
And like, it didn't matter if I 
knew it or not, She actually was

672
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,640
just mourning for me. 
So I'm like, you're amazing. 

673
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,760
Like like, we're going to go get
a meal together. 

674
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,920
So we went and got a meal, we 
meet up, and the first time I 

675
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,080
laid, I was on her at a vision 
of marrying her. 

676
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:24,280
Well. 
I mean, I seen her in a wedding 

677
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,200
dress and she was smiling at me 
and I knew I was the groomsman. 

678
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,600
So I'm like, that's awesome. 
This is crazy. 

679
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,580
I'm like, OK, so yeah, now. 
Seven years of marriage? 

680
00:35:36,780 --> 00:35:41,260
Oh, that's awesome. 
Seven years of wonderful wedded 

681
00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:46,500
bliss And and So what? 
So you so you met her nine years

682
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:48,860
ago then or eight years ago? 
Oh, that's. 

683
00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:51,260
And it was online, did you say? 
Yep. 

684
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:54,300
And I'm sorry, what was the what
was the platform? 

685
00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:56,340
Was it Facebook or? 
Yeah, it was. 

686
00:35:56,580 --> 00:36:00,260
It was Facebook like. 
Was probably like a messenger 

687
00:36:00,260 --> 00:36:02,940
group or like the social media 
of some sort. 

688
00:36:02,940 --> 00:36:04,580
Yeah. 
I mean, we connected on like 

689
00:36:04,580 --> 00:36:06,740
Facebook. 
Like we talked for like 2 years 

690
00:36:06,740 --> 00:36:10,020
on Facebook at the time. 
So, oh, that's wonderful. 

691
00:36:10,340 --> 00:36:12,660
Does she share this, the same 
Christian faith as you? 

692
00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:14,220
Yeah. 
Is she more Catholic? 

693
00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:16,340
There was. 
She's from the Philippines, 

694
00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:18,740
which is the only Christian 
nation in the Far East, but 

695
00:36:18,860 --> 00:36:21,980
they're like Catholic. 
It's like a lot Catholicism 

696
00:36:21,980 --> 00:36:23,860
there. 
They're surrounded by obviously 

697
00:36:23,860 --> 00:36:26,980
like Buddhists and and Muslim 
nations and stuff like that. 

698
00:36:26,980 --> 00:36:31,080
So she understood. 
You know, like the principles of

699
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,520
like, because where I'm at in my
faith walk at the time, it's 

700
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,480
like I didn't know a lot about 
the Bible or like what was going

701
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,840
to happen in my life following 
after Christ. 

702
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,960
But like, we both knew Jesus 
Christ was Lord. 

703
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,400
We both knew that's the name 
above all names. 

704
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,040
Like there's no way getting 
around that one. 

705
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,240
But she came from like a 
Catholic background and then she

706
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,200
had a lot of missionaries coming
to her country when she was 

707
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,910
growing up. 
So there was some religious 

708
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:57,910
confusion there. 
You know, she had seen Mormons 

709
00:36:57,910 --> 00:36:59,390
come through. 
She had seen all these different

710
00:37:00,270 --> 00:37:02,030
groups come through. 
And everybody's like, no, we're 

711
00:37:02,030 --> 00:37:03,430
right. 
We're going to baptize you. 

712
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:05,590
So, like, these people just come
through every year or two into 

713
00:37:05,590 --> 00:37:08,630
these villages over there and 
like, you know, hook people up 

714
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:10,910
with some clothes and baptize 
them and they're like the fresh,

715
00:37:10,910 --> 00:37:13,430
new cool religious thing. 
And then they disappear. 

716
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:15,870
And then a year later, you know,
you get these other groups. 

717
00:37:15,870 --> 00:37:18,030
So there was, there was some 
confusion there in it. 

718
00:37:18,030 --> 00:37:21,830
And I think a lot for me and her
was really just taking that 

719
00:37:21,830 --> 00:37:23,590
journey together of like, well, 
let's. 

720
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,440
Let's read the word and let's 
walk this thing out. 

721
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,400
You know what I mean? 
So, but yeah, she's a Christian,

722
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,200
obviously. 
Yeah. 

723
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,920
But I think we've both grown a 
lot since since 9, almost 10 

724
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,780
years ago together. 
Wow. 

725
00:37:38,420 --> 00:37:41,860
And you have a a lovely son, 
Adam, and he is 6 years old. 

726
00:37:41,860 --> 00:37:42,300
Is that right? 
Yeah. 

727
00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:44,700
Okay. 
Well, that's wonderful. 

728
00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:47,420
That's that's a huge blessing. 
It's amazing how the Lord can 

729
00:37:47,420 --> 00:37:49,740
bring people together through 
the Internet. 

730
00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:53,180
I met my husband through the 
Internet as well and I have, 

731
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:59,100
that's my story, of course. 
But So what would you say was 

732
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:08,300
like the main thing that like 
caused you to like really like I

733
00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:10,780
guess become like a red pilled 
Christian cuz I mean there's 

734
00:38:10,780 --> 00:38:13,980
there's Christians that are 
quote blue pilled or or people 

735
00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:17,140
that kind of don't believe the 
way we do that believe the 

736
00:38:17,140 --> 00:38:19,140
mainstream narrative on the 
news. 

737
00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:23,140
And then there's the red pilled 
Christians who they believe in 

738
00:38:23,140 --> 00:38:27,720
alternative narrative of history
I guess. 

739
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:30,640
So what caused you to to kind of
like switch gears? 

740
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,800
Well, I'll share two things real
quick and then I'm going to ask 

741
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,040
you some questions. 
Sure. 

742
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:40,320
Absolutely. 
So with with regards to my wife 

743
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,880
contributing to, well, let me 
back up a little bit and I'll 

744
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,320
share. 
I've had supernatural 

745
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,240
experiences throughout my life, 
so like, I didn't know where to 

746
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:50,920
go with that. 
Once I started reading the word,

747
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:56,380
I found out that's not. 
Uncommon in the word like when 

748
00:38:56,380 --> 00:38:58,860
you you're seeking God and you 
have a calling in your life and 

749
00:38:58,860 --> 00:39:03,380
you're actually willing to go 
there and acknowledge you know 

750
00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:06,300
the name above all names and 
you're willing to actually say I

751
00:39:06,340 --> 00:39:08,460
am going to a lot this space 
instead of going out and 

752
00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:10,940
partying, instead of focusing on
this or watching movies or 

753
00:39:10,940 --> 00:39:14,340
playing video games, I am going 
to dive into the word you start 

754
00:39:14,340 --> 00:39:18,780
to find well, it's it's almost 
like a part of that journey. 

755
00:39:18,780 --> 00:39:22,320
Like it should almost look. 
And I'm not saying like, alien 

756
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,200
spaceships, little green men, 
listen, I mean that stuff. 

757
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,600
I know that stuff happens. 
But what I'll say is, like, when

758
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,600
I say supernatural, I mean even 
just dreams or just just having 

759
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,280
a prophetic word, like knowing 
like this this is going to come 

760
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,040
to pass. 
And then God confirming it 

761
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,080
through somebody else when you 
never spoke it out loud. 

762
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,000
And then it happens, and then 
you find yourself praising God 

763
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,320
and you just feel filled up. 
That's supernatural for me, too.

764
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,240
I'm not. 
When I say supernatural, I don't

765
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:50,250
just mean like. 
Bigfoot. 

766
00:39:50,250 --> 00:39:52,250
Like, yeah, I believe that that 
fits in there too. 

767
00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:55,130
But so, so, like, I'm riddled 
with all of these supernatural 

768
00:39:55,130 --> 00:39:57,450
things happening. 
And that's the reason why I just

769
00:39:57,450 --> 00:39:59,810
wanted to limit it, because I 
don't want to go down too many 

770
00:39:59,810 --> 00:40:02,450
rabbit trails and start talking 
about all of it right now. 

771
00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:06,330
But with my wife, one of the 
contributing turning points was 

772
00:40:06,330 --> 00:40:10,930
here I have my wife. 
You know, we are Marriage is the

773
00:40:10,930 --> 00:40:13,770
highest honored relationship 
outside of our relationship of 

774
00:40:13,770 --> 00:40:16,670
God. 
So as like, we are growing and, 

775
00:40:16,670 --> 00:40:18,790
you know, we're talking and just
getting to know each other 

776
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:21,670
better, I noticed that she would
talk about her childhood and 

777
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:26,230
things she experienced and seen.
And it was no, it wasn't without

778
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:27,950
memes. 
It was without jokes. 

779
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:31,270
It was like literally these 
these creatures exist and their 

780
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:34,190
culture is not just folklore and
like seeing. 

781
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:37,670
And I would ask, well, why 
don't, why don't you want to 

782
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:39,670
talk about it with anybody else?
And she would say because you 

783
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:42,630
guys would make you Americans 
would make fun of us for this. 

784
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:47,550
And I'm like, well, probably, 
yeah, because I get a hard time 

785
00:40:47,550 --> 00:40:48,630
too. 
So like, yeah, you're a 

786
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:50,670
foreigner with an accent. 
They'll probably really shake 

787
00:40:50,670 --> 00:40:53,710
you down for it, right? 
But then she says, no, no, no, 

788
00:40:54,430 --> 00:40:57,830
your culture. 
You guys play video games about 

789
00:40:57,830 --> 00:40:59,350
this. 
You watch movies about it. 

790
00:40:59,750 --> 00:41:02,270
You read, you know, made-up 
stories about it. 

791
00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:05,550
You sit around at campfires and 
do your little marshmallows and 

792
00:41:05,550 --> 00:41:07,030
tell these creepy little 
stories. 

793
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:09,070
But she says we live that 
overseas. 

794
00:41:09,820 --> 00:41:11,300
Like, we don't go outside in the
dark. 

795
00:41:11,860 --> 00:41:14,580
Our prayers are warfare, battle 
prayers to protect us. 

796
00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:17,900
Because literally, you know, 
stuff happens and she's like, 

797
00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:21,460
you guys don't get that here. 
And that like, hit me so hard 

798
00:41:21,460 --> 00:41:24,180
because, like, here's my 
beautiful little wife, you know,

799
00:41:24,180 --> 00:41:26,420
later night we're talking. 
And she's dropping tears as 

800
00:41:26,420 --> 00:41:30,820
she's pouring her heart out to 
me about how uncomfortable it is

801
00:41:30,820 --> 00:41:33,660
for for her and people like her 
to be able to try to talk about 

802
00:41:33,660 --> 00:41:36,380
this stuff. 
Because we're just like we're 

803
00:41:36,380 --> 00:41:40,760
too like just too fake is modern
day Babylon, which is too fake. 

804
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,560
We just go, go, go. 
Unless we can make money on that

805
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,760
story, we don't want to hear it.
Like, like that's this 

806
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,520
mentality. 
And I'm like that's disgusting. 

807
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,680
But it layered me deeper into 
like there's no microphone on 

808
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,200
the she has nothing. 
She's not making this up. 

809
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,720
She has nothing to do from it. 
If anything, she would be 

810
00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:00,760
putting herself at risk for me 
to be, like questioned her 

811
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,520
culture or be like, no, I don't 
want to travel to your country. 

812
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,920
Or you know what I mean? 
Like, she's actually at risk of 

813
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,610
loss and if she says it too 
loud, at risk of loss of 

814
00:42:10,610 --> 00:42:13,690
reputation locally, you know, 
within family and within 

815
00:42:13,690 --> 00:42:16,090
whatever you want to call it. 
So like, once she started to 

816
00:42:16,090 --> 00:42:18,410
help me realize, like, honey, we
don't laugh about this. 

817
00:42:18,410 --> 00:42:20,250
Like, we don't go outside after 
dark. 

818
00:42:20,850 --> 00:42:22,250
Like, this is very serious to 
us. 

819
00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:24,970
You walk this way, you be 
careful what you talk about. 

820
00:42:24,970 --> 00:42:27,130
Like, you always, Right. 
And it was just like, I'm like, 

821
00:42:27,130 --> 00:42:28,930
man, that's not an American 
thing. 

822
00:42:29,330 --> 00:42:31,010
Like Americans are. 
Like, that's a whole. 

823
00:42:31,290 --> 00:42:36,180
So I became culturally, I 
started to shift and understand 

824
00:42:36,260 --> 00:42:39,060
and that that was a a really big
solidifying point because then 

825
00:42:39,060 --> 00:42:42,500
it helped me to, like, not be so
afraid to dive into things I 

826
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:43,860
experienced and be like, well, 
you know what? 

827
00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:47,060
I'm not going crazy. 
Like I have all these notes out 

828
00:42:47,060 --> 00:42:49,140
of things I experienced. 
You know, like, I know this 

829
00:42:49,140 --> 00:42:52,100
stuff happened, but like, I 
always kind of wanted to put it 

830
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:55,860
away because it wasn't, it 
wasn't cool or like acceptable 

831
00:42:55,860 --> 00:42:57,500
at the time. 
It was like, like you. 

832
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:00,100
It just didn't fit in. 
So I always felt like, put it on

833
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:02,540
the back burner because I don't 
know how to unpack it. 

834
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:06,100
But like, my wife was a big part
of me having the confidence just

835
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:08,860
to be like, you know what? 
I got to run through and wash 

836
00:43:08,900 --> 00:43:11,700
all of this against the word of 
God and just not be bold, 

837
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:14,940
understand it all. 
So is my daughter when she's 3, 

838
00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:20,780
1/2 years older than my wife, 
these two magnificent women, You

839
00:43:20,780 --> 00:43:25,500
know that that really helped and
these pivotal points in my life 

840
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:29,340
to just really be like, no, you 
know, trust your gut, trust your

841
00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:34,500
story, trust the word of God 
above all and be careful with 

842
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:37,260
these things. 
So that was a big turning point 

843
00:43:37,260 --> 00:43:41,980
for me, Her specifically so. 
That's amazing. 

844
00:43:43,590 --> 00:43:47,870
You know, I don't want to say my
friend's name, but his wife is 

845
00:43:47,870 --> 00:43:51,950
Filipina at one of our Christian
podcast friends and I'm not sure

846
00:43:51,950 --> 00:43:54,990
if I should say his name because
I didn't ask him because it's 

847
00:43:54,990 --> 00:43:56,710
his story and it's his wife's 
story. 

848
00:43:56,990 --> 00:43:59,510
But I he's such a. 
Great guy, that. 

849
00:43:59,550 --> 00:44:01,950
I have a feeling that he 
wouldn't mind, but just to to 

850
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:03,990
make 100% sure he's going to be 
anonymous. 

851
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:08,630
But, but actually what your wife
is saying to you and her 

852
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:11,670
experiences resemble sort of 
what. 

853
00:44:12,110 --> 00:44:17,190
Our other, our mutual friend's 
wife said and I I actually met 

854
00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:20,510
them both and I I said please, 
please come both of you on my 

855
00:44:20,510 --> 00:44:22,990
show and share your experience, 
you know. 

856
00:44:23,230 --> 00:44:25,950
And then she says, Oh no, I'm 
not into you know, and she's 

857
00:44:25,950 --> 00:44:27,590
definitely not into podcasting 
or whatever. 

858
00:44:27,590 --> 00:44:30,830
And she feels shy about it. 
So now I understand the the 

859
00:44:30,830 --> 00:44:35,790
cultural context of it, that she
has everything to lose because 

860
00:44:35,790 --> 00:44:37,590
she's talking to an American 
audience. 

861
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:41,390
And if American people around 
her get wins, they might think 

862
00:44:41,390 --> 00:44:42,750
that she's. 
Or something. 

863
00:44:42,990 --> 00:44:45,710
But, but, but that's the total 
opposite. 

864
00:44:45,710 --> 00:44:48,150
You know, we're the ones that 
are cuckoo because we have 

865
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:52,030
totally blinded ourself. 
Yeah, we've blinded ourself to 

866
00:44:52,110 --> 00:44:55,270
this other reality. 
You know we if somebody says 

867
00:44:55,710 --> 00:44:57,680
that. 
You know, they're seeing things 

868
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,080
or hearing things that are 
supernormal, supernatural, that,

869
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,000
you know, we give them drugs and
medication. 

870
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,920
We put them into an insane 
asylum and to get locked up 

871
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,160
where is over there in the 
Philippines and and among the 

872
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,120
red pilled Christians or the OR 
the at least the people that are

873
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,840
open to the supernatural 
reality, we realize that there 

874
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,000
is that other dimension that we 
can't see unless God. 

875
00:45:21,630 --> 00:45:24,270
Takes the veil off and then we 
we see that dimension. 

876
00:45:24,270 --> 00:45:26,710
Obviously that happened for you 
when you had your auto body 

877
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:29,270
experience as a kid. 
It happened to your lovely 

878
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:33,350
daughter and it has happened to 
your wife in the Philippines. 

879
00:45:34,430 --> 00:45:36,510
You know, it was interesting. 
I had this dream. 

880
00:45:36,510 --> 00:45:39,030
I feel like I should share this.
I had this dream when I was 

881
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:42,510
probably like maybe 10 years ago
and. 

882
00:45:44,820 --> 00:45:46,780
And it was just a very, very 
quick dream. 

883
00:45:47,020 --> 00:45:51,620
I had this dream that I was in 
Mexico and it was at night time 

884
00:45:51,980 --> 00:45:53,940
and I was walking around the 
street. 

885
00:45:53,940 --> 00:45:59,590
I've never been to Mexico, Okay.
And but they were saying you 

886
00:45:59,590 --> 00:46:02,070
know hey you, you get you get 
into the house get into the 

887
00:46:02,070 --> 00:46:05,190
house. 
You know the the Chupacabra is 

888
00:46:05,230 --> 00:46:07,590
is running around or whatever. 
You know and I'm like what? 

889
00:46:07,590 --> 00:46:08,270
Huh. 
What do you mean? 

890
00:46:08,590 --> 00:46:11,710
And so I so everybody ran into 
the house and I saw this 

891
00:46:11,710 --> 00:46:14,190
creature walk by. 
This is way before blurry 

892
00:46:14,190 --> 00:46:15,870
creatures. 
This is way before I became Red 

893
00:46:15,870 --> 00:46:17,870
Pill. 
Probably like in 2006, I had 

894
00:46:17,870 --> 00:46:21,540
this dream. 
So this, this big evil creature 

895
00:46:21,540 --> 00:46:24,100
monster would would walk by the 
streets, right? 

896
00:46:24,380 --> 00:46:27,340
And I never forgot that dream 
because I'm like, okay, why on 

897
00:46:27,340 --> 00:46:29,580
earth did I have a dream I was 
in Mexico, I've never been 

898
00:46:29,580 --> 00:46:31,300
there. 
And why would I have a dream 

899
00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:33,260
that that everybody was getting 
into the house while this 

900
00:46:33,260 --> 00:46:35,780
strange creature was was walking
down the road. 

901
00:46:36,060 --> 00:46:40,220
And I have a feeling that maybe 
that's something that happens in

902
00:46:40,220 --> 00:46:42,860
the Philippines where they, like
you said that they don't leave 

903
00:46:42,860 --> 00:46:45,460
their house. 
But anyway, so our our mutual 

904
00:46:45,460 --> 00:46:47,660
friend's wife said something to 
those effects. 

905
00:46:47,820 --> 00:46:48,740
She didn't talk about the 
little. 

906
00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:52,700
People, but she talked about 
this supernatural dog like a 

907
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:57,460
food dog or whatever that would 
appear to her her, I think her 

908
00:46:57,460 --> 00:47:00,220
grandmother or grandfather was a
shaman or something like that. 

909
00:47:00,620 --> 00:47:03,340
And it would this dog would 
appear and and they would do 

910
00:47:03,340 --> 00:47:06,900
this incantation or whatever and
then the food, food would 

911
00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:09,140
supernaturally rise from the 
pot. 

912
00:47:09,620 --> 00:47:12,740
And it was it was not Christian,
it was it was witchcraft. 

913
00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:18,910
So there was that it. 
And the some other stories I 

914
00:47:18,910 --> 00:47:23,470
forget, but I don't doubt that 
this other Filipino wife I I'm 

915
00:47:23,470 --> 00:47:26,510
sure that she probably has had 
experiences with with little 

916
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:28,310
people. 
Oh, and another thing she said 

917
00:47:28,310 --> 00:47:31,630
was that portals, like some 
people would just escape into 

918
00:47:31,630 --> 00:47:34,190
portals and they won't, might 
not be seen for a few months and

919
00:47:34,190 --> 00:47:37,750
all of a sudden they're they're 
there and they have these, this 

920
00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:39,950
memory of being in this other 
reality. 

921
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:44,270
And I'm like my mind is totally 
blown because like you said in 

922
00:47:44,270 --> 00:47:46,470
America, we hardly ever embrace 
that. 

923
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:50,110
And when we do, when, when that 
happens to us, you try to tell 

924
00:47:50,110 --> 00:47:53,310
your pastor, not not all 
pastors, but but I think there's

925
00:47:53,310 --> 00:47:56,070
some pastors that are 90% of 
them don't want to hear it. 

926
00:47:56,070 --> 00:47:58,870
But yeah, some of them are 
willing to be like, OK, what's 

927
00:47:58,870 --> 00:48:00,590
going on, you know? 
Right, right. 

928
00:48:00,590 --> 00:48:03,030
I think that there's that 
there's there's a growing number

929
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:04,310
of pastors that are open to 
this. 

930
00:48:04,310 --> 00:48:07,270
But back in the day, you know, 
when we're growing up, you tell 

931
00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:09,550
somebody, you know, they're 
looking at you like like you 

932
00:48:09,630 --> 00:48:10,990
know you're at. 
Mine or whatever. 

933
00:48:12,430 --> 00:48:15,830
But yeah I totally I I think 
those are beautiful stories. 

934
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:18,310
When you're out you're out of 
body experience that maybe the 

935
00:48:18,310 --> 00:48:22,350
Lord took you out and maybe 
showed you maybe that you have a

936
00:48:22,350 --> 00:48:25,670
spiritual body and and 
definitely showed showed your 

937
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:29,350
daughter holy angels and to 
comfort you to bring you to the 

938
00:48:29,350 --> 00:48:32,470
knowledge of God for when you 
were in court. 

939
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:34,670
So that that's awesome that 
that's amazing. 

940
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:38,990
So I do have to apologize Ron to
you because we try to. 

941
00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:42,990
I was on Ron. 
Like 3 months ago and I yammered

942
00:48:42,990 --> 00:48:46,790
on and on and on about my 
testimonial and I promised Ron 

943
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:50,230
that that I would make it 
concise and to the point and not

944
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:52,350
put all this extraneous 
information in there. 

945
00:48:52,350 --> 00:48:54,910
So. 
So I wanna also share, share my 

946
00:48:54,910 --> 00:48:56,990
story. 
And you said, Ron, that you had 

947
00:48:56,990 --> 00:48:59,030
some questions for me too. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

948
00:48:59,230 --> 00:49:03,510
And and I was so captivated by 
your story when you were on. 

949
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:06,600
I was like, I sat there and was 
just, I took that emotional ride

950
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,320
with you. 
I'm an empathy in a lot of ways.

951
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,440
So like, when I really want to 
care and listen, I will like, 

952
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,560
put everything else out of mind 
and focus in. 

953
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,040
And then I'll feel like, you 
know, just like, ah, I'm taking 

954
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,520
this ride with this person's 
story. 

955
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,400
So, but but I'm going to ask you
what kind of come close to what 

956
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,200
you were asking me in a sense. 
But like, what was the defining 

957
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,240
point where you came to Christ 
and you realize, like, I'm all 

958
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:32,360
in for him? 
Like there's no nothing for me 

959
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,800
over there. 
Like, when did you make that 

960
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,240
choice to rock it out with 
Christ? 

961
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,120
Sure, sure. 
Well, I would have to say that 

962
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:47,040
there were a lot of things that 
happened to me growing up that 

963
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:53,800
made me really doubt the 
efficacy of the religion I grew 

964
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,850
up with, which was Buddhism. 
Because I didn't see any 

965
00:49:56,850 --> 00:50:00,250
redemptive value in it. 
I'm not saying that that all 

966
00:50:00,250 --> 00:50:02,810
Buddhists, you know, are like 
this or whatever, but the 

967
00:50:02,810 --> 00:50:05,970
religion or anything like that. 
I mean, I love Buddhist people. 

968
00:50:05,970 --> 00:50:10,330
I just, I'm like, I don't 
believe in the religion because 

969
00:50:10,330 --> 00:50:13,170
I I believe that Jesus is the 
way, the truth of the life. 

970
00:50:13,170 --> 00:50:16,770
No man comes to the Father, no 
one goes to heaven but by him, 

971
00:50:16,850 --> 00:50:19,250
and there's no other name under 
heaven by which we must be 

972
00:50:19,250 --> 00:50:22,410
saved. 
So, so in a nutshell. 

973
00:50:23,370 --> 00:50:27,690
My, my dad and and mom were 
immigrants from Thailand and 

974
00:50:27,690 --> 00:50:31,770
they moved to from from Thailand
to California because their 

975
00:50:32,050 --> 00:50:36,050
typhoon had moved to Southern 
California by Compton, actually.

976
00:50:36,370 --> 00:50:39,330
So it was a very, very modest 
home. 

977
00:50:39,330 --> 00:50:43,050
And they were, they were totally
in a culture shock because they 

978
00:50:43,050 --> 00:50:46,530
went from, you know, kind of, 
you know, sort of city life, you

979
00:50:46,530 --> 00:50:49,330
know, but no gangs or anything 
like that to like, you know, 

980
00:50:49,330 --> 00:50:51,280
there's like. 
You know right next to gangland 

981
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,160
right there and and although it 
wasn't as bad in the 70s you 

982
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,120
know but but my my dad and my 
mom were in like culture shock 

983
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,840
but my dad kind of blended in by
going to goatee and things like 

984
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,840
that and and he's kind of trying
to blend in you know to to the 

985
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:11,520
the the Mexican people over 
there and such and and my but my

986
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,560
mother had a a hard time so my 
my dad had had moved to 

987
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,800
California because he had gotten
an architectural job there and 

988
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,160
he had gotten his architectural.
From the university of Thailand 

989
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,040
and so that's the main reason 
why he was able to to to move 

990
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,120
around and so he wanted to be a 
beginning draftsman over there 

991
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,480
And so while while he was 
assimilating into the culture 

992
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,120
with the language and the 
friends from work and things 

993
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,040
like that. 
My mother was not and she was 

994
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,440
having a hard time with the the 
assimilating into the culture 

995
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,920
and the language and and not 
making a whole lot of friends 

996
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,480
and she felt very depressed 
after she had, she had me, she 

997
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,960
had postpartum depression and so
unfortunately. 

998
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,320
My mother had a lot of mental 
illness when I was probably 

999
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,920
starting at age 5 or 6 and so 
unfortunately I saw her go in 

1000
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,160
and out of of mental episodes 
unfortunately. 

1001
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:08,360
And so my my parents had 
separated when I was 8 and my my

1002
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,960
mom lived in Thailand when my 
dad was here, but I was raised 

1003
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:18,080
as an American girl from age 0 
to, you know, anyway, but so. 

1004
00:52:19,650 --> 00:52:22,290
My dad and I got along really, 
really well from age 8 to 12. 

1005
00:52:22,290 --> 00:52:24,250
Like he was my best friend. 
He was my pal. 

1006
00:52:24,250 --> 00:52:25,970
He was the only one I had, 
basically. 

1007
00:52:26,450 --> 00:52:30,370
But my gosh, when I was age 12, 
I got into a lot of occult 

1008
00:52:30,370 --> 00:52:32,930
stuff. 
Like I know a lot of Christians 

1009
00:52:32,930 --> 00:52:35,170
or just people in general don't 
think there's anything wrong 

1010
00:52:35,170 --> 00:52:37,090
with horoscopes and astrology, 
but. 

1011
00:52:38,020 --> 00:52:41,620
But I was like really obsessed 
with it and I would read it 

1012
00:52:41,620 --> 00:52:46,620
every day and follow follow it 
to the T and and I felt like I I

1013
00:52:46,660 --> 00:52:50,340
let the enemy in. 
I I really felt like at some 

1014
00:52:50,340 --> 00:52:54,980
point that it was that an evil 
spirit had come in and and I 

1015
00:52:54,980 --> 00:52:59,780
know that for sure because the 
there was a book called Demons 

1016
00:52:59,780 --> 00:53:02,660
in the World Today by Doctor 
Merrill F Unger and. 

1017
00:53:03,770 --> 00:53:06,850
The page that I had opened up to
was about demons and fortune 

1018
00:53:06,850 --> 00:53:08,610
telling, but that that's a 
little bit further down the 

1019
00:53:08,610 --> 00:53:11,450
road. 
But but when I was 12, I really 

1020
00:53:11,450 --> 00:53:15,570
got into the dabbling into the 
cult with astrology and 

1021
00:53:15,570 --> 00:53:18,410
numerology and things like that.
And there's nothing wrong with 

1022
00:53:18,970 --> 00:53:22,410
biblical astrology or even 
biblical numerology, but the but

1023
00:53:22,530 --> 00:53:27,290
Satan can twist everything. 
And so I really felt at that 

1024
00:53:27,290 --> 00:53:30,250
point that the enemy had gotten 
a foothold in my life through 

1025
00:53:30,250 --> 00:53:32,850
that, even though it was just a 
little, a little small, little 

1026
00:53:32,850 --> 00:53:36,530
pinprick. 
Of of interest in the occult and

1027
00:53:37,530 --> 00:53:41,690
also there's a possibility that 
whatever spirits that were 

1028
00:53:42,370 --> 00:53:46,370
causing my mother's mental 
illness, and yes, I do believe 

1029
00:53:46,370 --> 00:53:48,690
that mental illness can be 
organic, but it can also be 

1030
00:53:48,690 --> 00:53:50,530
spiritual too. 
So I believe that whatever 

1031
00:53:50,530 --> 00:53:54,130
spirits that maybe was in my 
family bloodline was was 

1032
00:53:54,130 --> 00:53:56,730
oppressing me plus the 
involvement of the occult and 

1033
00:53:56,730 --> 00:53:58,610
things like that. 
So I became. 

1034
00:53:58,970 --> 00:54:05,120
With I had. 
Dad's Selfesteem was suicidal 

1035
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,760
and depressed, I would say from 
age 1213 and 14 and and then my 

1036
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:15,480
dad and I would argue and, you 
know, and really got into a lot 

1037
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,280
of verbal fisticuffs and things 
like that because I I wanted to 

1038
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:23,280
break away from his paternal 
instincts or what have you. 

1039
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,680
But I remember feeling that 
sense of hopelessness one time 

1040
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:31,080
when I was 13, just crying. 
My dad and I had gotten into the

1041
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,240
argument. 
Because I wanted to be this 

1042
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,080
rebellious American girl and I 
was sticking out of my window 

1043
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,240
and and meeting friends and 
things like that, you know, And 

1044
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,480
that was definitely not 
something that he grew up with 

1045
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,080
like. 
So my dad, my dad was you know, 

1046
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,720
old like traditional like, you 
know, you went to school and you

1047
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,360
went, you pleased your parents, 
you did your chores, you went to

1048
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,760
sleep, you know, rinse, repeat. 
And with me as an American girl,

1049
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,720
I wanted to have friends and I 
wanted to dress pretty, you 

1050
00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:02,320
know, with the the right makeup 
and earrings and and. 

1051
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,480
And and clothing and things like
that. 

1052
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,320
So that caused, you know, kind 
of a rift between us. 

1053
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,160
And so I became rebellious, like
I said, sneaking out the window 

1054
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,880
to meet, you know, friends and 
what have you. 

1055
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,400
And I remember we got to an 
argument and I and, you know, it

1056
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,240
was really a sharp argument. 
And I remember my, my friend and

1057
00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:25,760
my friend's mom was there and I 
just started crying and I 

1058
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,520
started weeping in my hands, 
like, what's the meaning of 

1059
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,240
life? 
I don't understand why I was 

1060
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,320
born, you know? 
And I know it sounds. 

1061
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,160
Ridiculous now, but I mean I was
really in in my heart of hearts 

1062
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,240
I was crying and weeping out of 
sorrow that you can't believe 

1063
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,720
just because. 
And my mom had already died. 

1064
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,640
She had committed suicide 
unfortunately when I was 12. 

1065
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,720
So it was like a year after she 
had committed suicide that. 

1066
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,000
You know, I was also questioning
the meaning of life, you know, 

1067
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,680
and in the things I was, I was 
telling you about the low self 

1068
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,040
esteem and the involvement in 
the occult. 

1069
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,960
And then and then who knows, 
maybe those, those same spirits 

1070
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,120
that you know had had influenced
my mother to commit suicide. 

1071
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:12,160
We're also trying to drag me 
down, you know, And so a year, 

1072
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,600
so that was, I remember asking 
myself that question, Why am I 

1073
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,960
alive? 
Why am I alive and crying? 

1074
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,320
And then in I remember 87. 
To December of 87 and I remember

1075
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,160
this date because there were 
some Gideons that went to the 

1076
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:34,080
the school bus when I was 14 and
they they were handing it to the

1077
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,440
the kids on the school bus and 
they were freshmen all the way 

1078
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,560
up to seniors on the bus. 
And I remember, you know, I 

1079
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,440
don't know about Philly, but it 
it. 

1080
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:46,780
I don't know how they're, how 
receptive they are to the Bible 

1081
00:56:46,780 --> 00:56:49,420
or or Christianity or whatever. 
It might be the same as 

1082
00:56:49,420 --> 00:56:50,900
California. 
But there there was a lot of 

1083
00:56:50,900 --> 00:56:53,580
kids that were would take the 
Bible and and like start ripping

1084
00:56:53,580 --> 00:56:56,620
up pages, you know, like some of
the bratty kids in the back 

1085
00:56:56,620 --> 00:56:58,660
ripping out pages of lighting it
on fire. 

1086
00:56:59,020 --> 00:57:02,620
But I I took the little Bible 
and and I I brought it home with

1087
00:57:02,620 --> 00:57:04,900
me. 
And I remember in the back there

1088
00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:06,700
was a place to write your name. 
And I. 

1089
00:57:06,780 --> 00:57:08,700
So I put, I put Geralyn Cowie 
Wong. 

1090
00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:11,020
I go, OK, well, I'm going to 
write my name, you know, because

1091
00:57:11,020 --> 00:57:14,820
it's my, it's my little. 
Bible and but I remember also 

1092
00:57:14,820 --> 00:57:19,100
getting another Bible from this 
Thai Presbyterian Church that 

1093
00:57:19,740 --> 00:57:22,340
that was friends with my my late
mom and dad. 

1094
00:57:22,340 --> 00:57:24,220
So. 
So that's Thai Presbyterian 

1095
00:57:24,220 --> 00:57:29,030
minister. 
Had had officiated the funeral 

1096
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:33,550
for my mom which is very 
heartbreaking to to know that 

1097
00:57:33,550 --> 00:57:36,550
she was in so much pain and 
turmoil and agony that that she 

1098
00:57:36,550 --> 00:57:41,310
committed suicide and my heart 
was broken my my dad's heart was

1099
00:57:41,310 --> 00:57:44,190
broken. 
But it almost seems like I 

1100
00:57:44,190 --> 00:57:48,630
turned that sadness to to anger 
and rebelliousness towards my 

1101
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:53,430
dad and and and that was, I 
would say that was the turning 

1102
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:57,250
point, right there was. 
I was, I was depressed. 

1103
00:57:57,370 --> 00:58:01,890
I was angry. 
I was suicidal and and I 

1104
00:58:01,890 --> 00:58:06,450
remember that in my freshman 
year I was, I think I was May of

1105
00:58:06,450 --> 00:58:13,250
88 and I was 15 and I'm sorry I 
was just about turned 15 and or 

1106
00:58:13,250 --> 00:58:15,610
maybe I was already 15, sorry I 
was already 15, yes. 

1107
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:21,200
And in May of 88, and there was 
this boy in front of me sitting 

1108
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,440
in my freshman class in my 
theater arts class. 

1109
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,320
And he had this book that was 
called Demons in the World Today

1110
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,040
by doctor Marila Funger. 
And And I said, hey, can I 

1111
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,800
borrow that? 
Because it had this, this. 

1112
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,240
I was in the horror movies too. 
So the cover of it was a picture

1113
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,680
of a woman sitting at a table 
really solemnly. 

1114
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,120
And there and behind her, was an
apparition of her husband. 

1115
00:58:45,730 --> 00:58:47,610
And that's what piqued my 
interest. 

1116
00:58:48,010 --> 00:58:50,650
And and I said, oh, it looks 
like a ghost book because I was 

1117
00:58:50,650 --> 00:58:53,410
really into, you know, reading 
and watching The Amityville 

1118
00:58:53,410 --> 00:58:55,890
Horror, you know, The Shining 
and things like that. 

1119
00:58:55,890 --> 00:58:58,290
You know, don't watch those 
movies by the way, folks, 

1120
00:58:58,930 --> 00:59:01,410
really, you know, demonic evil 
movies and what have you. 

1121
00:59:01,650 --> 00:59:04,370
But anyway, but the Lord 
actually used that to pique my 

1122
00:59:04,370 --> 00:59:07,450
interest in this book because it
had this, the spooky cover. 

1123
00:59:07,930 --> 00:59:09,570
And I say, hey, can I borrow 
that? 

1124
00:59:09,890 --> 00:59:11,780
And. 
Is that sure? 

1125
00:59:11,980 --> 00:59:16,660
And so I opened it up and the 
the chapter that it opened up to

1126
00:59:16,660 --> 00:59:20,700
was demons and fortune telling. 
And it said that those who are 

1127
00:59:20,740 --> 00:59:24,500
in into the occult such as 
astrology, numerology and 

1128
00:59:24,500 --> 00:59:31,700
psychic stuff and other type of 
divinational practices open the 

1129
00:59:31,700 --> 00:59:35,740
door to to demon experience. 
I know that sounds ridiculous to

1130
00:59:35,740 --> 00:59:38,700
a lot of people, even 
Christians, which is. 

1131
00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:41,270
Really sad because Christians 
are supposed to believe in the 

1132
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:44,790
supernatural. 
But I it just it was that was 

1133
00:59:44,790 --> 00:59:47,470
the defining moment that that 
God really spoke to my heart. 

1134
00:59:47,470 --> 00:59:49,590
And I I started weeping tears of
joy. 

1135
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:53,110
And the next several months 
after that, people would say, 

1136
00:59:53,110 --> 00:59:55,110
Jerry, I don't know what 
happened to you, but you've 

1137
00:59:55,110 --> 00:59:57,270
changed. 
I mean, I don't know if I at 

1138
00:59:57,270 --> 01:00:00,450
that point. 
I I wasn't like a full-fledged 

1139
01:00:00,450 --> 01:00:02,970
Christian yet, but kind of like 
you went through sort of these 

1140
01:00:02,970 --> 01:00:05,610
different phases like black to 
Gray into white. 

1141
01:00:05,610 --> 01:00:08,530
So that at that point was like 
my Gray phase because I I cried 

1142
01:00:08,530 --> 01:00:11,170
out to God and I said God, I I 
cried. 

1143
01:00:11,170 --> 01:00:12,650
I said I didn't know what was 
wrong. 

1144
01:00:13,450 --> 01:00:15,530
Forgive me. 
I I didn't know what was wrong 

1145
01:00:15,530 --> 01:00:17,370
God. 
But then I wasn't sure who God 

1146
01:00:17,370 --> 01:00:20,130
was. 
Was that Jesus was that, you 

1147
01:00:20,130 --> 01:00:22,090
know? 
And I wasn't sure, you know. 

1148
01:00:22,860 --> 01:00:26,460
Who God was but I just knew I 
just knew that it was it was God

1149
01:00:26,460 --> 01:00:30,260
that that I needed to have a 
relationship with. 

1150
01:00:31,180 --> 01:00:35,100
But but later on a year a year 
later after that my friend 

1151
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:40,100
invited me to church 
mid-september of 89 and that's 

1152
01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:43,940
when I prayed this in his prayer
and and realized that Jesus was 

1153
01:00:43,940 --> 01:00:47,540
God and the only way to God and 
and I received Jesus in my heart

1154
01:00:47,540 --> 01:00:52,730
at that at that moment there and
I I wish I could say that it was

1155
01:00:52,730 --> 01:00:56,290
all Peaches and roses after that
but it wasn't it had lots of 

1156
01:00:56,290 --> 01:01:02,050
hills and valleys ups and downs.
But overall the the Lord I don't

1157
01:01:02,050 --> 01:01:04,770
know for some reason I have I 
think of this analogy of a cat 

1158
01:01:04,770 --> 01:01:08,170
being dropped off being dropped 
off from a roof that the cat 

1159
01:01:08,170 --> 01:01:11,130
lands on his feet. 
Well I feel like I'm that cat 

1160
01:01:11,170 --> 01:01:13,610
and and the only reason why I 
landed on my feet was because of

1161
01:01:13,650 --> 01:01:17,370
Jesus was because of God because
I had made some stupid mistakes.

1162
01:01:17,810 --> 01:01:20,890
I know you had made some 
mistakes before you got saved. 

1163
01:01:21,210 --> 01:01:24,450
I made them after I got saved. 
Oh, no, I made them. 

1164
01:01:25,050 --> 01:01:27,450
I made them after too. 
Oh, OK, you did before. 

1165
01:01:27,450 --> 01:01:28,450
No, it wasn't. 
All right. 

1166
01:01:28,690 --> 01:01:30,490
Yeah it's a long drawn out 
story. 

1167
01:01:30,930 --> 01:01:34,010
Me too. 
Me too and and you know that 

1168
01:01:34,010 --> 01:01:36,330
that I went on and on about 
about all the details and stuff 

1169
01:01:36,330 --> 01:01:39,970
like that and and our audience 
for the sake of brevity probably

1170
01:01:39,970 --> 01:01:42,930
doesn't want to listen to all 
the little sort of details of of

1171
01:01:42,930 --> 01:01:45,930
our mistakes. 
But to make a Long story short, 

1172
01:01:46,530 --> 01:01:52,970
I finally I would say I I I did 
have definitely, I had 

1173
01:01:52,970 --> 01:01:55,890
definitely the conversion 
experience from from darkness to

1174
01:01:55,890 --> 01:01:58,410
light. 
But then I kind of went back to 

1175
01:01:58,410 --> 01:02:04,450
my old ways and the Bible says 
that that if if a demon leaves 

1176
01:02:04,450 --> 01:02:07,690
its home and it calls you your 
your soul, it's home. 

1177
01:02:07,690 --> 01:02:13,370
If a demon leaves its home and 
and wanders around trying to 

1178
01:02:13,370 --> 01:02:18,650
find another home but then he 
gets this idea aha, I'll go back

1179
01:02:18,650 --> 01:02:22,570
to the home from originally that
that I came back and sees that 

1180
01:02:22,570 --> 01:02:26,810
it's swept and an empty it 
brings back seven other worse 

1181
01:02:26,810 --> 01:02:30,890
spirits than itself. 
So if you if you come to know 

1182
01:02:30,890 --> 01:02:36,610
the Lord and you backslide then 
the the the last day your your 

1183
01:02:36,610 --> 01:02:38,450
second condition can be worse 
than the first. 

1184
01:02:38,450 --> 01:02:41,770
So I feel like because I 
backslid that I allowed some 

1185
01:02:41,770 --> 01:02:45,290
things into my life that that 
that could have been avoidable. 

1186
01:02:46,090 --> 01:02:50,770
But but thank God, like I said, 
the the cat analogy, I felt like

1187
01:02:50,770 --> 01:02:53,090
the Lord had, you know redeemed 
me. 

1188
01:02:53,090 --> 01:02:56,530
And and finally I I did. 
I got, I went through some dark 

1189
01:02:56,530 --> 01:03:01,650
times, very dark times from age 
20 to 2728. 

1190
01:03:01,890 --> 01:03:04,690
But I met my my husband on the 
Internet as well. 

1191
01:03:05,410 --> 01:03:10,010
I put my profile on 
oneandonly.com and I had 

1192
01:03:10,010 --> 01:03:14,410
actually Internet dated 9899, 
2002, 1001 and so. 

1193
01:03:14,970 --> 01:03:19,570
So February of 2001, my husband,
I met and it was a couple of 

1194
01:03:19,570 --> 01:03:24,010
dates and I kind of shrugged him
off because I because he was 

1195
01:03:24,380 --> 01:03:27,580
fairly introverted and I'm very 
extroverted and I'm like, oh, 

1196
01:03:27,580 --> 01:03:29,700
he's too shy for me. 
I'm like, yeah, I forget it, you

1197
01:03:29,700 --> 01:03:32,820
know, Like I just, I just don't 
ever break up with somebody via 

1198
01:03:32,980 --> 01:03:36,140
text message or e-mail. 
And I I sent him a message via 

1199
01:03:36,220 --> 01:03:39,780
e-mail saying, you know, look, 
you're a wonderful guy, but I'm 

1200
01:03:39,820 --> 01:03:41,260
sorry. 
I don't think there's chemistry.

1201
01:03:41,260 --> 01:03:43,740
Right. 
But then but then a few months 

1202
01:03:43,740 --> 01:03:46,940
later in June or July, the Lord 
really started working on my 

1203
01:03:46,940 --> 01:03:51,300
heart and I started thinking of 
how wonderful he was and is and 

1204
01:03:51,420 --> 01:03:57,420
and how he has these awesome. 
So with introverted people, they

1205
01:03:57,500 --> 01:04:02,740
they do have a self-discipline 
and he's very caring and sharing

1206
01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:09,070
and just really has this really 
calm and stable spirit about 

1207
01:04:09,070 --> 01:04:11,270
him. 
And that's something that I need

1208
01:04:11,910 --> 01:04:14,310
and that's something that I 
needed then and still need now 

1209
01:04:14,310 --> 01:04:18,990
And as you can see. 
And so anyway, so I called him 

1210
01:04:18,990 --> 01:04:22,200
up in July of O One. 
I think it was it was a little 

1211
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:28,000
after the 4th of July in 2001 
and I I called him up and I'm 

1212
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,280
like, hey, do you want to go out
again. 

1213
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,600
And and then we we started 
redating I guess. 

1214
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,280
So we've been together ever 
since nonstop since July of 01 

1215
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,440
and and again it hasn't it's it 
hasn't been a smooth ride 

1216
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,680
sometimes but there's there's 
been times where it was like 

1217
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,560
really smooth sailing and then 
there's been other times where 

1218
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,200
it was like really rough waters.
But he's a wonderful Christian 

1219
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,680
husband and I'm so glad we met 
and we celebrated our twenty 

1220
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:57,640
year anniversary in June 28th 
and and that's totally by the 

1221
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,600
hand of the Lord. 
And of course we you know we 

1222
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,120
loved each other. 
We do still love each other and 

1223
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:07,320
it it's amazing how like God can
bring you somebody but then he 

1224
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,360
also wants you to love that 
person. 

1225
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,920
Like he wouldn't bring you 
somebody that you weren't 

1226
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,640
attracted to you. 
He wouldn't bring you somebody 

1227
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,790
who you wouldn't love. 
So it was like it was it's both 

1228
01:05:17,790 --> 01:05:21,230
I think so I think that right 
person is, is God's will. 

1229
01:05:21,230 --> 01:05:23,950
Plus you also have to fall in 
love with that person too. 

1230
01:05:23,950 --> 01:05:26,390
And of course continue loving 
that person through the the help

1231
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:29,390
of of the Holy Spirit. 
You know, to give us that agape 

1232
01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:32,910
love for that person you know, 
not just the passion you know, 

1233
01:05:32,910 --> 01:05:34,950
let. 
Me ask you a question here, So 

1234
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:37,630
like during that whole period of
time, I know you talked about 

1235
01:05:37,630 --> 01:05:40,950
like you know from like 20 to 
like 27 it kind of being like 

1236
01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:44,560
bumpy and what? 
Did you have supernatural 

1237
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,320
experiences during that time, 
like one or two that really 

1238
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,160
sticks out to you? 
And after you came to the Lord, 

1239
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:57,080
like did it feel like there was 
restriction almost as to like 

1240
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,920
the supernatural stuff that was 
going on was trying to keep you 

1241
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:03,240
from growing and finding a 
deeper relationship with him? 

1242
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,040
Just elaborate on that a little 
bit. 

1243
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,600
I'm curious to hear. 
Sure. 

1244
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,440
I'm sorry I didn't talk about my
supernatural experiences. 

1245
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,880
So when I had actually rewind a 
little bit to my first 

1246
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:21,600
supernatural experience. 
So when I was when like I was a 

1247
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:27,360
month, a month or two after I 
had started going to church and 

1248
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:28,920
I had gotten the sleep 
paralysis. 

1249
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,680
So some people might know what 
sleep paralysis is, where if 

1250
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:35,680
you're head to toe just totally 
paralyzed and you're asleep, but

1251
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,800
you wake up to this paralyzed 
condition and you can sense an 

1252
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:43,200
evil presence doing this to you.
So that happened to me and I and

1253
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:47,760
I the next the following 
Wednesday I went to youth group 

1254
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:52,920
and I had told my my other 
Christian youth group friends 

1255
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,480
and like, hey, could you pray 
for me? 

1256
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,200
And they weren't Pentecostal or 
anything. 

1257
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,280
They were just totally not a 
nominational and they all put a 

1258
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,280
hand on my shoulder or my leg or
something and they prayed and 

1259
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,280
they rebuked it in Jesus name 
and it left. 

1260
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,940
I did not get any paralysis 
until I was 20. 

1261
01:07:10,860 --> 01:07:14,740
So when I was 20, I started 
really, really growing in the 

1262
01:07:14,740 --> 01:07:17,980
Lord, like I was telling 
everybody about Jesus. 

1263
01:07:17,980 --> 01:07:25,100
And I unfortunately started 
getting the paralysis again and 

1264
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:28,220
I felt like it was a reprisal 
for growing, like it wanted to 

1265
01:07:28,220 --> 01:07:32,700
stop me from really growing 
continuing to grow in the Lord. 

1266
01:07:33,060 --> 01:07:37,310
And unfortunately I I was 
married once before from age 20 

1267
01:07:37,310 --> 01:07:41,590
to 24 and and and it resulted in
a divorce because my exhusband 

1268
01:07:41,590 --> 01:07:44,710
was verbally and mentally 
abusive and sometimes physically

1269
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:49,910
abusive. 
But during that that that time 

1270
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:55,590
frame of 2024, lots of weird 
slash good and bad supernatural 

1271
01:07:55,590 --> 01:07:58,150
experiences because whatever 
spirits that were in my 

1272
01:07:58,150 --> 01:08:02,070
exhusband would come to try to 
attack me with sleep paralysis. 

1273
01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:05,640
Sometimes I get sleep paralysis 
four to six times a week, and I 

1274
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,760
believe it was because the 
spirits inside him were, or 

1275
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,920
around him were attacking me. 
I know that sounds strange, but 

1276
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,560
but I believe that's what 
happened. 

1277
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,240
And sometimes my exhusband would
say crazy and weird and strange 

1278
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,200
things to me. 
You know what? 

1279
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,220
There was another one time when 
I I'd left them the first time 

1280
01:08:24,859 --> 01:08:26,819
he said that he was the devil 
himself. 

1281
01:08:26,819 --> 01:08:30,020
And he took his fists and he 
shattered his fists on this 

1282
01:08:30,060 --> 01:08:33,020
Victorian glass lamp and the 
glass lamp shattered into 

1283
01:08:33,020 --> 01:08:34,660
pieces. 
And it was only by the Lord that

1284
01:08:34,660 --> 01:08:36,180
protected me. 
It could it could have lodged 

1285
01:08:36,180 --> 01:08:37,979
into my head or my eyes or 
whatever. 

1286
01:08:38,660 --> 01:08:40,340
So praise God that God protected
me. 

1287
01:08:40,540 --> 01:08:45,740
But there was there was a good, 
interesting, supernatural 

1288
01:08:45,740 --> 01:08:48,979
experience. 
But I I had, oh by the way, I 

1289
01:08:48,979 --> 01:08:50,700
did have an out of body 
experience. 

1290
01:08:51,899 --> 01:08:54,260
So when a little bit. 
So when I was 20. 

1291
01:08:55,060 --> 01:09:00,500
So when I started growing 
stronger, the Lord, I I felt 

1292
01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:06,260
something come up to me and like
kind of like jolt me awake. 

1293
01:09:06,260 --> 01:09:10,740
And I I had one of those lamps 
that were that if you touched 

1294
01:09:10,740 --> 01:09:15,740
the lamp, any part of the any 
part of the metallic lamp, it 

1295
01:09:15,740 --> 01:09:18,830
would turn on. 
And I remember thinking, okay, 

1296
01:09:18,830 --> 01:09:21,350
why isn't this lamp turning on? 
And like there's something we 

1297
01:09:21,350 --> 01:09:25,990
call this lamp, you know? 
And so then I'm like okay, I'm 

1298
01:09:25,990 --> 01:09:27,910
freaked out. 
I'm going to, I'm going to go to

1299
01:09:27,910 --> 01:09:32,189
my dad's bedroom because he had 
two 2 twin beds. 

1300
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:37,710
And so I just proceeded to walk 
towards my dad's bedroom. 

1301
01:09:37,830 --> 01:09:41,310
But instead I wasn't walking. 
My head was float. 

1302
01:09:41,310 --> 01:09:44,950
I was floating down the hallway.
My head was hitting the ceiling.

1303
01:09:45,609 --> 01:09:47,609
Not not physical, but I mean my 
head. 

1304
01:09:47,649 --> 01:09:50,930
I was floating down the hallway 
and my head, like was near the 

1305
01:09:50,930 --> 01:09:53,770
ceiling. 
And all of a sudden, like in an 

1306
01:09:53,770 --> 01:09:57,770
instant, I was back in my body 
and I go and I and I I touched 

1307
01:09:57,770 --> 01:10:00,770
the lamp and it turned on. 
So it was God. 

1308
01:10:01,290 --> 01:10:04,010
For some reason, the Lord 
allowed this demonic spirit to 

1309
01:10:04,050 --> 01:10:09,210
dislodge me from my body and to 
show me that there's a spiritual

1310
01:10:09,210 --> 01:10:11,450
route. 
That that I have a spiritual 

1311
01:10:11,450 --> 01:10:14,770
body, evidently. 
But that was the last time that 

1312
01:10:14,970 --> 01:10:18,850
that when I had. 
That was the last time that I 

1313
01:10:18,850 --> 01:10:23,530
had the sleep paralysis episode 
where a spirit actually allowed 

1314
01:10:23,530 --> 01:10:27,530
me to like, leave my body. 
It was almost as if, I don't 

1315
01:10:27,530 --> 01:10:30,410
know. 
It was almost as if, like, you 

1316
01:10:30,410 --> 01:10:33,490
know, maybe that spirit was like
reprimanded for allowing me to 

1317
01:10:33,490 --> 01:10:34,850
leave my body or something like 
that. 

1318
01:10:34,890 --> 01:10:37,530
I don't know. 
It was weird, but but then, like

1319
01:10:37,530 --> 01:10:39,370
I've had sleep paralysis since 
then. 

1320
01:10:39,650 --> 01:10:42,330
But but I But I'd love to focus 
on the good. 

1321
01:10:43,210 --> 01:10:46,770
Too good, very wonderful, good 
supernatural experiences real 

1322
01:10:46,770 --> 01:10:50,740
quick. 
No, I was at a healing crusade, 

1323
01:10:51,140 --> 01:10:54,220
and I don't want to say this 
evangelist's name because I 

1324
01:10:54,220 --> 01:10:55,700
believe I might get Flack for 
it. 

1325
01:10:56,380 --> 01:10:59,860
But I was at, I was at. 
I'll tell you later, I was at 

1326
01:10:59,860 --> 01:11:05,780
this, this, this healing, 
prophetic evangelist crusade in 

1327
01:11:05,780 --> 01:11:11,300
95 and I went with my exhusband 
and the pastor and his wife and 

1328
01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:17,880
a few other people and this 
particular evangelist, I I don't

1329
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,480
know if he's totally right with 
God to be honest with you, but 

1330
01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:25,200
sometimes God can use someone 
who whose theology is a little 

1331
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:30,080
off kilter or maybe their life 
isn't totally right, you know, 

1332
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,920
but God sometimes can still use 
that person. 

1333
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,400
So I was, I was at this crusade 
and and like thousands of people

1334
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,880
were in this arena in California
or the California. 

1335
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:44,040
And then he said, OK, everybody 
hold hands, you know, with with 

1336
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:45,520
the person to your left and to 
your right. 

1337
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:48,910
And then that he, it looked like
he was throwing a Holy Spirit 

1338
01:11:48,910 --> 01:11:52,550
baseball. 
And he, he threw the Holy 

1339
01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:54,550
Spirit. 
I I know that sounds bizarre, 

1340
01:11:54,750 --> 01:11:56,110
but it. 
But it looked like he was 

1341
01:11:56,110 --> 01:11:57,910
throwing something at the 
audience, right. 

1342
01:11:57,910 --> 01:12:02,590
And then one by one, I see rows 
and rows and rows of people just

1343
01:12:02,590 --> 01:12:06,230
fall back into their chairs. 
Boom, boom, boom, boom. 

1344
01:12:06,270 --> 01:12:10,110
And I'm like, that's fake. 
Finally it came to my row. 

1345
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:15,990
I literally felt something push 
my sternum back and I I couldn't

1346
01:12:15,990 --> 01:12:18,390
stand up and I I I fell back in 
my chair. 

1347
01:12:19,190 --> 01:12:23,430
So the big question is since 
this person's is a little off 

1348
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:27,350
theologically, was that a demon 
or was that the Holy Spirit? 

1349
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:29,990
I don't know. 
To this day I do believe it was 

1350
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:31,630
the Holy Spirit cuz I did feel 
peace. 

1351
01:12:31,630 --> 01:12:34,590
But then of course you know we 
know that you know the the the 

1352
01:12:34,750 --> 01:12:37,670
demons could come as a as a the,
you know, Angel of light. 

1353
01:12:37,950 --> 01:12:40,710
But I I do believe that it was 
the Holy Spirit. 

1354
01:12:41,940 --> 01:12:45,660
But then there's that 10% of my,
you know, questioning like, what

1355
01:12:45,660 --> 01:12:47,660
exactly was that? 
You know, So that was a good 

1356
01:12:47,660 --> 01:12:52,180
supernatural experience. 
And then Fast forward to 2015 

1357
01:12:52,180 --> 01:12:56,220
when I started podcasting. 
So Kay Carswell and I, she 

1358
01:12:56,220 --> 01:12:57,980
passed away and she went to be 
with the Lord. 

1359
01:12:58,300 --> 01:13:01,740
But so when Kay Carswell and I 
podcasted together doing 

1360
01:13:01,740 --> 01:13:07,750
deception detection radio, we we
had talked about holy angels as 

1361
01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:10,110
well as evil angels. 
We talked about falling as well 

1362
01:13:10,110 --> 01:13:14,230
as holy angels. 
And so it was interesting that 

1363
01:13:15,150 --> 01:13:19,830
that like like a couple nights 
after that I I awoke to the 

1364
01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:24,430
sound of the most beautiful 
angelic song. 

1365
01:13:24,590 --> 01:13:26,550
It was not the IT was not the 
radio. 

1366
01:13:27,230 --> 01:13:30,990
It was a beautiful female 
angelic song. 

1367
01:13:31,230 --> 01:13:33,150
It was not the radio. 
It was not the TV. 

1368
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:37,390
I just knew it was a holy Angel,
just like your daughter knew 

1369
01:13:37,670 --> 01:13:41,270
what she saw was an Angel. 
And that was a very positive. 

1370
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:43,230
Those were two very positive 
experiences. 

1371
01:13:43,390 --> 01:13:45,830
Well, the first one was like, 
not sure, you know, And the 

1372
01:13:45,830 --> 01:13:50,350
second one, totally, 100% knew 
that was that it was a holy 

1373
01:13:50,350 --> 01:13:54,030
Angel singing. 
And I know that in the Bible 

1374
01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:59,190
many times that holy angels 
manifest themselves as male, but

1375
01:13:59,310 --> 01:14:02,550
I have to tell you that this was
a female holy Angel and she was 

1376
01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:07,270
singing so and I was right with 
the Lord. 

1377
01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:11,390
So I can't, I can't imagine that
it was something demonic cuz I 

1378
01:14:11,390 --> 01:14:15,350
really did feel the Lord. 
So those were the two very good 

1379
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:17,710
supernatural experiences. 
But the rest are like, it's like

1380
01:14:17,710 --> 01:14:19,310
why don't I have to be attacked 
every time? 

1381
01:14:20,190 --> 01:14:23,520
Like for doing this podcast, the
enemy is probably going to 

1382
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,480
attack me, you know, as a 
reprisal against, you know, 

1383
01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:29,080
getting the word of God out of 
there. 

1384
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,200
Because our testimonials is what
really defeats the enemy. 

1385
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,400
As we know that the word of our 
testimonial and the blood of the

1386
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,960
lamb, the word of our 
testimonial, that that defeats 

1387
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,520
the enemy and that really 
spreads. 

1388
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,720
And I think a lot of like what 
you're saying is so important 

1389
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,040
because I deal with that as well
where it's like the. 

1390
01:14:45,910 --> 01:14:49,350
The battles, like some of the 
stuff that goes on to be able to

1391
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:51,990
do this show and to pray with 
people and and there's a lot of 

1392
01:14:51,990 --> 01:14:54,670
ministry that goes on where the 
left hand doesn't know what the 

1393
01:14:54,670 --> 01:14:57,150
right hand is doing. 
In my case, like I don't social 

1394
01:14:57,150 --> 01:14:59,630
media lies like put everything 
up on social media. 

1395
01:15:00,390 --> 01:15:02,830
I'm not on there every two or 
three hours doing updates. 

1396
01:15:02,830 --> 01:15:07,350
Like I'm just like we're called 
to do certain things and then 

1397
01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:09,150
there's a time and a place for 
the rest of it. 

1398
01:15:09,150 --> 01:15:12,750
But what the battles that 
actually take place? 

1399
01:15:14,140 --> 01:15:16,220
It is very interesting. 
It's very interesting. 

1400
01:15:16,460 --> 01:15:21,100
But the word is going to tell us
the remedy, exactly what to do. 

1401
01:15:21,460 --> 01:15:24,700
Like we put on armor. 
And I don't mean like I'm going 

1402
01:15:24,700 --> 01:15:26,820
to imaginarily, spiritually put 
on. 

1403
01:15:26,820 --> 01:15:30,780
Like, I think when the helmet of
salvation is being talked about 

1404
01:15:30,780 --> 01:15:35,180
in Ephesians, like repentance is
a change of mind. 

1405
01:15:36,020 --> 01:15:37,620
Like, like in a change of 
direction. 

1406
01:15:37,620 --> 01:15:39,380
Like we, we wash and change our 
mind. 

1407
01:15:39,780 --> 01:15:43,420
So like if we're in that place 
of a change mind, like we are 

1408
01:15:43,420 --> 01:15:47,460
countering whatever battlefield 
of the mind, whatever the arrow 

1409
01:15:47,460 --> 01:15:51,020
with the enemy is coming against
us, we're saying like, no, I am 

1410
01:15:51,020 --> 01:15:55,060
saved by the blood of Christ. 
Like he is working all of this 

1411
01:15:55,060 --> 01:15:59,380
together until the day of his 
his coming or I leave this 

1412
01:15:59,380 --> 01:16:01,060
earth. 
However, whatever, however this 

1413
01:16:01,060 --> 01:16:02,420
ends, he's going to work this 
out. 

1414
01:16:02,660 --> 01:16:05,300
And I think a lot of the times 
it's like people think it's like

1415
01:16:05,300 --> 01:16:08,220
too lofty or too goofy, but like
the reality is. 

1416
01:16:08,730 --> 01:16:11,690
We're all battling for a mental 
space of something or another. 

1417
01:16:11,690 --> 01:16:14,010
We're battling for attention. 
We're battling for the raise at 

1418
01:16:14,010 --> 01:16:15,770
work. 
We're battling for whatever it 

1419
01:16:15,770 --> 01:16:17,650
is, right? 
Oh, we want vacation. 

1420
01:16:17,650 --> 01:16:19,610
We need to make sure all this 
stuff is lined up. 

1421
01:16:20,010 --> 01:16:23,410
So it's like, well, what about 
battling for? 

1422
01:16:23,410 --> 01:16:25,770
Just like proverb says, so a man
thinketh he is. 

1423
01:16:25,770 --> 01:16:27,850
If you think you're important, 
if you think that you're loved 

1424
01:16:27,850 --> 01:16:30,530
and you have value, well, most 
likely you're going to glow like

1425
01:16:30,530 --> 01:16:33,010
you do. 
But but then beyond that, what 

1426
01:16:33,010 --> 01:16:36,010
is God actually? 
Does he delight in that? 

1427
01:16:36,010 --> 01:16:38,680
Well, he delights in faith. 
And the substance that was so 

1428
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:39,520
far. 
So I just think what you're 

1429
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,080
saying is important because a 
lot of the times we're like, 

1430
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,800
well, I'm going to call this 
person and ask them to pray for 

1431
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,880
me because I'm getting I'm under
attack right now. 

1432
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,320
I did this podcast episode or 
I'm praying for these people or 

1433
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,240
this stuff is going on. 
God is calling me deeper into 

1434
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,960
the these places where more 
responsibility, you know, just 

1435
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:57,880
more whatever you want to call 
it, right? 

1436
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,360
But The thing is, it's like God 
tells us we work out our 

1437
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:03,640
salvation with fear and 
trembling. 

1438
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,640
So that's the choice, like we 
have to say. 

1439
01:17:06,170 --> 01:17:10,210
I am strong and the Lord. 
I am a child of the king, right?

1440
01:17:10,210 --> 01:17:12,690
I'm a friend of the king. 
Like if you don't like me or 

1441
01:17:12,690 --> 01:17:15,530
what I'm about or what I'm 
saying, you don't like him 

1442
01:17:15,530 --> 01:17:18,530
because there's nothing actually
of me that's worth any value. 

1443
01:17:19,130 --> 01:17:21,970
Like okay testimony. 
That's cool, but but it's by the

1444
01:17:21,970 --> 01:17:24,570
blood of the lamb. 
And it's it's by the blood of 

1445
01:17:24,570 --> 01:17:27,690
the lamb that I have a testimony
because I wouldn't have one 

1446
01:17:27,690 --> 01:17:32,170
without him. 
And so the battle is so real and

1447
01:17:32,170 --> 01:17:34,810
that's why I don't like. 
I hate trying to tell. 

1448
01:17:35,580 --> 01:17:38,460
My testimony of stories, because
there's so much and I feel 

1449
01:17:38,460 --> 01:17:40,580
scatterbrained a lot of the 
time, like, I'm like, Oh my 

1450
01:17:40,580 --> 01:17:45,380
gosh, I got to try to line up or
stick to just a portion of this.

1451
01:17:45,380 --> 01:17:47,780
But I I also want to speak about
what's edifying. 

1452
01:17:48,260 --> 01:17:49,580
So. 
So I love the fact that you 

1453
01:17:49,580 --> 01:17:52,540
just, you're transparent and 
you're you're willing to bring 

1454
01:17:52,540 --> 01:17:55,860
that up and actually say, you 
know what, Yeah, the battle is 

1455
01:17:55,860 --> 01:17:57,460
real. 
And then I think this is where 

1456
01:17:57,460 --> 01:18:00,780
the encouragement becomes more 
than just is more than a podcast

1457
01:18:00,780 --> 01:18:04,220
right now is more than a podcast
right now, because this is 

1458
01:18:04,220 --> 01:18:07,090
actually two people. 
Who are chasing after the Lord 

1459
01:18:07,090 --> 01:18:10,370
for what Our Calling is and what
where he wants to lead us in the

1460
01:18:10,370 --> 01:18:14,850
face of a battlefield like we 
are on a battlefield and the 

1461
01:18:14,850 --> 01:18:17,130
encouragement is real and his 
word is true. 

1462
01:18:17,130 --> 01:18:20,570
So I want to ask you, I think 
we'll we'll kind of move into to

1463
01:18:20,570 --> 01:18:27,930
this it what what do you think 
the next step is like? 

1464
01:18:28,270 --> 01:18:29,950
Like for your ministry with the 
podcast. 

1465
01:18:29,950 --> 01:18:32,790
Like I know everything that 
you've been doing right and and 

1466
01:18:32,790 --> 01:18:34,310
you're reaching people and stuff
like that. 

1467
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:38,230
But has God like, worked with 
you in in in a space where he's 

1468
01:18:38,230 --> 01:18:40,870
starting to reveal to you I'm 
calling you to this or has he 

1469
01:18:40,870 --> 01:18:44,790
exposed any of what you would 
say, maybe what your gifts or or

1470
01:18:44,790 --> 01:18:47,190
callings are? 
Is there anything's a great 

1471
01:18:47,230 --> 01:18:51,070
question, Sure. 
As a matter of fact, I thought 

1472
01:18:51,070 --> 01:18:54,770
that I should transition into 
that because that's probably 

1473
01:18:54,770 --> 01:18:55,730
what a lot of people want to 
know. 

1474
01:18:55,730 --> 01:18:59,450
How did we get into podcasting? 
What inspired us? 

1475
01:18:59,730 --> 01:19:04,730
And definitely was the Lord. 
So it's interesting. 

1476
01:19:04,730 --> 01:19:09,570
I would say that my desire to do
public speaking was birthed way 

1477
01:19:09,570 --> 01:19:15,850
back, probably I would say maybe
15 years ago or something. 

1478
01:19:16,130 --> 01:19:20,050
And my my favorite saying to my 
husband was that I have so much 

1479
01:19:20,050 --> 01:19:25,510
to say but nobody will listen. 
So now people are listening like

1480
01:19:25,510 --> 01:19:28,110
you find folks thank you for 
listening by the way or watching

1481
01:19:28,510 --> 01:19:32,790
or both. 
So it's interesting that that 

1482
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:37,150
when I started listening to 
podcasts such as Doc Marquis who

1483
01:19:37,470 --> 01:19:42,390
went on to be with the Lord, he 
was an ex Illuminati ex warlock 

1484
01:19:42,470 --> 01:19:45,910
and who was became Christian. 
So I started listening to him. 

1485
01:19:45,910 --> 01:19:51,660
I started to listen to LA 
Marzily and a bunch of different

1486
01:19:51,820 --> 01:19:54,540
you know red pilled you know 
Christian Supernatural type of 

1487
01:19:54,540 --> 01:19:57,500
podcasters. 
And I for some reason that a lot

1488
01:19:57,500 --> 01:20:01,500
of them escape my my thinking 
right now actually sorry Canary 

1489
01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:05,020
car radio. 
So I I started listening to a 

1490
01:20:05,020 --> 01:20:10,580
lot of Christian paranormal, 
Christian Supernatural or red 

1491
01:20:10,580 --> 01:20:13,380
pill type of shows. 
The first one being Paratruth 

1492
01:20:13,380 --> 01:20:19,900
radio and there so around 2014 
I. 

1493
01:20:22,150 --> 01:20:25,030
I'm sorry, let me rewind. 
Back in 2013 I was going. 

1494
01:20:25,230 --> 01:20:31,670
I was taking some classes for a 
degree Bachelor psychology 

1495
01:20:31,670 --> 01:20:34,710
degree for Liberty University. 
I just have an associate's. 

1496
01:20:34,710 --> 01:20:36,670
But I was trying to edge towards
a bachelor's degree. 

1497
01:20:36,670 --> 01:20:40,750
But anyway, I had taken a 
Christian and cinematic arts 

1498
01:20:40,750 --> 01:20:45,430
class and one of my classmates, 
Eric from Paratruth Radio. 

1499
01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:49,150
He and I became friends in 2013 
and became friends on Facebook. 

1500
01:20:49,150 --> 01:20:52,950
And then 2014, I saw that he and
his friend, he and his cousin 

1501
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:57,750
Justin had started, restarted, 
restarted a new podcast called 

1502
01:20:57,750 --> 01:20:59,830
Paratooth Radio. 
And they were veterans in 

1503
01:20:59,830 --> 01:21:02,910
podcasting before, like five 
years before or 10 years before 

1504
01:21:02,910 --> 01:21:05,390
even that. 
And and they're younger guys, 

1505
01:21:05,390 --> 01:21:07,430
so, so they're like super 
veterans. 

1506
01:21:07,430 --> 01:21:09,830
So they probably started in the 
early 20s or something like that

1507
01:21:10,390 --> 01:21:12,950
doing podcasting, paranormal 
podcasting. 

1508
01:21:13,270 --> 01:21:18,430
And so I thought to myself, 
self, you should do a podcast 

1509
01:21:18,430 --> 01:21:20,950
one of these days. 
But I don't have the time. 

1510
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:23,830
I work full time. 
I I don't have the time or the 

1511
01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:25,590
energy. 
I'm done at the end of the day. 

1512
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:28,070
You know what? 
At the end of the day, you know,

1513
01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:32,550
5530, you know, I've, I've 
checked out, you know, and I go 

1514
01:21:32,550 --> 01:21:35,070
exercise and have dinner with my
husband and bam, I'm going to 

1515
01:21:35,070 --> 01:21:37,030
sleep or or at that time I was 
going to school. 

1516
01:21:37,390 --> 01:21:41,310
I have no time. 
But then in 2015, another friend

1517
01:21:41,310 --> 01:21:43,670
named Channing from the Full 
Fledge Radio. 

1518
01:21:44,070 --> 01:21:47,590
He invited me on his podcast on 
blogtalkradio.com. 

1519
01:21:48,150 --> 01:21:50,750
And I didn't need any of this 
equipment at all. 

1520
01:21:50,750 --> 01:21:54,070
No microphone, nothing. 
He just said to call on the 

1521
01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:57,670
phone, right? 
So I just started calling on my 

1522
01:21:57,670 --> 01:22:04,500
cell phone and one by one I 
started building up shows on his

1523
01:22:04,580 --> 01:22:06,900
show, building up episodes on 
his show, the full-fledged 

1524
01:22:06,900 --> 01:22:11,540
radio. 
And then after I had a few shows

1525
01:22:11,540 --> 01:22:15,140
under my belt, I'm like, this is
lovely to do it by myself. 

1526
01:22:15,380 --> 01:22:20,330
So I prayed for the right Co 
host S and Kay Carnival came 

1527
01:22:20,330 --> 01:22:21,970
along and so I got her into 
podcasting. 

1528
01:22:21,970 --> 01:22:25,130
So she and I podcasted together 
and then we went our separate 

1529
01:22:25,130 --> 01:22:29,810
ways and she took the torch and 
and lit the world on fire with 

1530
01:22:29,810 --> 01:22:33,290
her podcast. 
And she has she and Kate, sorry.

1531
01:22:33,330 --> 01:22:38,730
She and Chad Riley together for 
they did podcasting for 3 1/2 

1532
01:22:38,730 --> 01:22:43,050
years. 
I mean they did, they had, they 

1533
01:22:43,050 --> 01:22:46,050
had hundreds of episodes and I 
just knew that it was it was a 

1534
01:22:46,050 --> 01:22:48,530
God thing that I started her in 
podcast because that was 

1535
01:22:48,530 --> 01:22:51,130
something that she had always 
loved, which was paranormal 

1536
01:22:51,130 --> 01:22:54,170
radio starting when she was a 
little girl listening to Coast 

1537
01:22:54,170 --> 01:22:56,050
to Coast. 
But anyway, to answer your 

1538
01:22:56,050 --> 01:22:59,850
question, Fast forward to the 
present. 

1539
01:23:00,010 --> 01:23:05,610
I've been podcasting since 2015 
and I had different names of 

1540
01:23:06,610 --> 01:23:12,290
Thai Girl for God Radio and 
Asian Grace Radio and in 

1541
01:23:12,290 --> 01:23:16,610
November of 21. 
So I was by myself in 2015 all 

1542
01:23:16,610 --> 01:23:21,450
the way to December 21. 
I I said Lauren, I I would 

1543
01:23:21,450 --> 01:23:24,050
really not. 
I'd really love to have a cohost

1544
01:23:24,050 --> 01:23:26,330
again. 
And I I'd like a different, a 

1545
01:23:26,330 --> 01:23:28,930
different name. 
Please show me what I should 

1546
01:23:28,930 --> 01:23:31,530
name my new podcast name. 
Please give me a podcast name 

1547
01:23:31,530 --> 01:23:33,530
that's different and new and 
interesting. 

1548
01:23:33,970 --> 01:23:36,810
And so I was driving along, you 
know how And all of a sudden out

1549
01:23:36,810 --> 01:23:40,190
of nowhere I felt the Lord say 
Strange o'clock. 

1550
01:23:40,630 --> 01:23:43,870
I'm like strange o'clock. 
That's really strange, right? 

1551
01:23:44,710 --> 01:23:48,630
And but I felt like that's what 
the Lord wanted me to call it is

1552
01:23:48,630 --> 01:23:52,430
Strange o'clock podcast. 
And probably because you know to

1553
01:23:52,430 --> 01:23:54,750
the world of us Christians are 
strange. 

1554
01:23:55,390 --> 01:23:59,670
And to the natural man, 
supernatural things are strange.

1555
01:23:59,670 --> 01:24:02,630
So and of course they have 
stranger things, you know. 

1556
01:24:02,630 --> 01:24:05,790
And for some reason I felt like 
the Lord say name a stranger 

1557
01:24:05,790 --> 01:24:11,010
cloth podcast and to to contact 
Michael Basham did me by cohost 

1558
01:24:11,010 --> 01:24:15,890
and I felt like the Lord paired 
us up podcast wise because I'm 

1559
01:24:15,890 --> 01:24:18,850
more Asian on the outside and 
more American on the inside and 

1560
01:24:18,850 --> 01:24:21,810
he actually is more Asian on the
inside and American on the 

1561
01:24:21,850 --> 01:24:26,770
outside because he spent 15 
years in China as a missionary. 

1562
01:24:27,090 --> 01:24:31,010
And and so I felt like he he, 
you know, has that Asianness on 

1563
01:24:31,050 --> 01:24:32,410
the inside and I have it on the 
outside. 

1564
01:24:32,410 --> 01:24:37,050
So I felt like the Lord you know
it has that had brought that 

1565
01:24:37,050 --> 01:24:40,010
combined you know experience 
together. 

1566
01:24:40,250 --> 01:24:42,810
You know that we could talk 
about stuff that's similar. 

1567
01:24:42,810 --> 01:24:46,410
We've had similar guests some of
the same guests like Dan Duvall 

1568
01:24:46,410 --> 01:24:49,050
and some of there's a few others
like maybe three or four of the 

1569
01:24:49,050 --> 01:24:52,010
same guests that we've had or 
that I've had before. 

1570
01:24:52,010 --> 01:24:55,930
And and so I think that there's 
that that need intersection of 

1571
01:24:56,410 --> 01:25:01,130
guests that we we both share rod
and also with Michael and I we 

1572
01:25:01,130 --> 01:25:05,120
we both share several guests 
that I've had on my show and 

1573
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,680
he's had. 
And so I guess the direction I 

1574
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:11,200
felt like the Lord wants me to 
go in that I'm hesitant on is 

1575
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,570
speaking what the Lord has shown
me because I do a lot of kind of

1576
01:25:15,570 --> 01:25:17,810
like at A at a rock concert. 
You know, when somebody like 

1577
01:25:17,810 --> 01:25:20,650
crowd surfs, you know, I'm like 
that person on the ground, you 

1578
01:25:20,650 --> 01:25:23,690
know, like holding up, you know,
that other person crowd surfing.

1579
01:25:23,690 --> 01:25:28,530
But I felt like God said saying,
I want your voice whatever I'm 

1580
01:25:28,530 --> 01:25:31,690
speaking to you. 
And through you, I want your 

1581
01:25:31,690 --> 01:25:34,410
voice to be out there. 
And I'm like, oh, I'm sort of 

1582
01:25:34,690 --> 01:25:37,650
bashful and shy about it. 
You know what if somebody calls 

1583
01:25:37,650 --> 01:25:39,570
me a heretic or whatever. 
You know, because there's 

1584
01:25:39,570 --> 01:25:44,770
there's some people who who say,
oh you know, you know God isn't 

1585
01:25:44,970 --> 01:25:47,170
doesn't give any new revelation 
these days. 

1586
01:25:47,170 --> 01:25:49,450
You know God isn't speaking 
through people these days. 

1587
01:25:49,450 --> 01:25:51,690
He's you know, if you want to 
hear from God you've got to just

1588
01:25:51,690 --> 01:25:55,050
read the book the Bible aloud. 
And and yes, that is partially 

1589
01:25:55,050 --> 01:25:57,210
true. 
But I do believe that in the 

1590
01:25:57,210 --> 01:25:59,730
book of Acts when it says that 
these gifts are for your 

1591
01:25:59,730 --> 01:26:01,690
children and your children's 
children and those who are far 

1592
01:26:01,690 --> 01:26:03,410
off, we are those who are far 
off. 

1593
01:26:03,410 --> 01:26:08,310
The book of Acts never died. 
You know I'm I became a 

1594
01:26:08,310 --> 01:26:10,910
Pentecostal Christian when I was
20 and that's probably why the 

1595
01:26:10,910 --> 01:26:15,230
enemy was trying to suppress me 
and and I I do believe in 

1596
01:26:15,230 --> 01:26:17,790
healing and deliverance and 
tongues and what have you. 

1597
01:26:17,950 --> 01:26:20,230
I know some of you might 
disagree but that's okay. 

1598
01:26:20,830 --> 01:26:22,310
But it's not. 
Those things are not self 

1599
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:24,150
effect. 
But I believe that it does 

1600
01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:29,090
bolster our faith and and we 
could be you really powerhouses 

1601
01:26:29,090 --> 01:26:31,370
for the Lord you know. 
But even if you if, even if you 

1602
01:26:31,370 --> 01:26:34,810
don't believe the same way the 
Lord you know still uses people 

1603
01:26:34,810 --> 01:26:38,090
that don't have those you know 
aren't operating in those things

1604
01:26:38,090 --> 01:26:41,450
that I just mentioned. 
But I feel like the Lord wants 

1605
01:26:41,450 --> 01:26:45,010
me to to give words of knowledge
and words of wisdom out to 

1606
01:26:45,010 --> 01:26:47,490
people. 
And I'm a little hesitant 

1607
01:26:47,530 --> 01:26:51,490
because I have some friends that
are they're skilled in 

1608
01:26:51,490 --> 01:26:57,170
apologetics and they're skilled 
in exposing the false doctrine 

1609
01:26:57,170 --> 01:26:59,570
and everything. 
And I just, I guess I I 

1610
01:26:59,570 --> 01:27:01,570
shouldn't fear. 
But but I I get concerned that 

1611
01:27:01,570 --> 01:27:05,490
might be lumped into that if I 
if I say okay, I feel like 

1612
01:27:05,930 --> 01:27:11,970
somebody's listening right now 
that is struggling with you 

1613
01:27:11,970 --> 01:27:14,090
know, this and that sin or 
whatever. 

1614
01:27:14,090 --> 01:27:15,450
You know what I mean? 
You know, have ever seen those 

1615
01:27:15,450 --> 01:27:18,050
people on TV? 
I feel like God abuse us still, 

1616
01:27:18,590 --> 01:27:21,350
but I didn't hesitate because I 
have some friends that actually 

1617
01:27:21,350 --> 01:27:24,510
call those types of people 
heretics and I'm like, do I want

1618
01:27:24,510 --> 01:27:26,790
to be labeled? 
Mislabeled. 

1619
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:30,310
What you're saying is important 
because I think a lot of people 

1620
01:27:30,310 --> 01:27:34,830
were in the mind frame, but 
somebody said this to help me 

1621
01:27:34,830 --> 01:27:37,750
with that as well because I was 
in the similar boat where it's 

1622
01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:40,530
like. 
Well, I don't have all this 

1623
01:27:40,530 --> 01:27:43,410
figured out, and I'm hesitant on
sharing even some of my own 

1624
01:27:43,410 --> 01:27:46,730
testimony because I haven't 
prayed about each snippet of it.

1625
01:27:46,730 --> 01:27:49,210
I haven't brought it before the 
Lord and ask for clarity and 

1626
01:27:49,210 --> 01:27:52,130
everything. 
So I'm like, well, some of it is

1627
01:27:52,130 --> 01:27:55,610
just for me, some of it is for 
edification purposes, right? 

1628
01:27:56,050 --> 01:28:03,650
But we have an audience of 1, so
if we're in tune with God and 

1629
01:28:03,650 --> 01:28:07,410
he's, He's pricking our hearts 
or knocking on the door of our 

1630
01:28:07,410 --> 01:28:09,180
soul. 
Right. 

1631
01:28:09,180 --> 01:28:11,740
Hey, I want you to say this to 
them. 

1632
01:28:11,980 --> 01:28:14,420
God, I can't do that. 
They're not going to look right 

1633
01:28:14,420 --> 01:28:18,740
if if we're in that kind of 
dialogue just refocusing on we 

1634
01:28:18,740 --> 01:28:23,460
have an audience of 1. 
Like God is watching and we're 

1635
01:28:23,460 --> 01:28:28,220
we're a child to him. 
We we have value beyond beyond 

1636
01:28:28,220 --> 01:28:31,660
measures that we would use. 
Our templates don't don't come 

1637
01:28:31,660 --> 01:28:33,900
close to the value that God sees
in us. 

1638
01:28:35,500 --> 01:28:39,140
I wish just like the Apostle 
Paul said that that we the 

1639
01:28:39,140 --> 01:28:41,620
Saints would know the length of 
depth of breath and the height 

1640
01:28:42,140 --> 01:28:43,820
and I believe that's multiple 
folded. 

1641
01:28:43,820 --> 01:28:46,900
I I believe that can be unpacked
in in many ways and still be 

1642
01:28:46,900 --> 01:28:49,860
accurate. 
But what I would say to you, 

1643
01:28:49,940 --> 01:28:53,300
just as, you know, I see what 
you have put in like the The 

1644
01:28:53,300 --> 01:28:56,860
First Round Table episode, I was
ever on that you were behind the

1645
01:28:56,860 --> 01:28:58,980
scenes orchestrating that you 
were doing that. 

1646
01:28:58,980 --> 01:29:00,940
You had the heart to get people 
together. 

1647
01:29:01,700 --> 01:29:04,340
And God is using you in ways and
it. 

1648
01:29:04,340 --> 01:29:07,940
And it's interesting because 
sometimes when we feel like 

1649
01:29:07,940 --> 01:29:11,060
we're just kind of sitting there
and everybody's zooming around 

1650
01:29:11,060 --> 01:29:14,020
us or oh man, they just blew up 
this quick or that show just 

1651
01:29:14,020 --> 01:29:19,220
grew this fast or whatever. 
Well, God has a season for you 

1652
01:29:19,220 --> 01:29:22,780
and he has a calling for you and
he has people for you to reach 

1653
01:29:22,780 --> 01:29:26,540
that they can't reach. 
And sometimes the wisdom from 

1654
01:29:26,540 --> 01:29:29,860
learning what maybe didn't work 
for those people who went too 

1655
01:29:29,860 --> 01:29:31,860
fast. 
Is going to be a part of the 

1656
01:29:31,860 --> 01:29:35,540
recipe that keeps you in it for 
the longer for like the the 

1657
01:29:35,540 --> 01:29:38,140
bigger stage or the OR the 
better stage, Like really 

1658
01:29:38,140 --> 01:29:43,300
helping sending up God's glory 
by being available, by being 

1659
01:29:43,300 --> 01:29:46,100
obedient and available to what 
he wants to do. 

1660
01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:49,100
And I see that with you, Peach. 
Like I see you have this heart 

1661
01:29:49,380 --> 01:29:51,940
to just recognize other people 
and to really just take. 

1662
01:29:52,870 --> 01:29:56,310
You know this place where it's 
like you're serving like in a 

1663
01:29:56,310 --> 01:29:59,990
place of just joy in your heart 
promoting other people and just 

1664
01:29:59,990 --> 01:30:02,390
not judging other people and 
really not wanting to be like 

1665
01:30:02,390 --> 01:30:04,550
lumped in with any one click in 
particular. 

1666
01:30:04,550 --> 01:30:07,470
I see this with you, I see your 
post, I listen to your podcast. 

1667
01:30:07,470 --> 01:30:10,630
We, you know, we've been in and 
out of communication since the 

1668
01:30:10,630 --> 01:30:13,910
round table that was that was 
done almost nine months ago I'd 

1669
01:30:13,910 --> 01:30:17,390
say at this point. 
But just remember you have an 

1670
01:30:17,390 --> 01:30:20,510
audience of 1 first and if he's 
pleased with it. 

1671
01:30:21,260 --> 01:30:23,900
He's the one that opens the 
floodgate for you to reap, 

1672
01:30:23,900 --> 01:30:27,780
whether it's 30 or 50 or 100, 
whatever. 

1673
01:30:27,900 --> 01:30:30,460
Whatever his plan is for you to 
reap that nothing nothing can be

1674
01:30:30,460 --> 01:30:36,020
taken away from you. 
So so helpful and encouraging. 

1675
01:30:36,020 --> 01:30:38,700
Absolutely. 
And I I definitely resound that 

1676
01:30:38,700 --> 01:30:44,380
same back to you for sure. 
And and we both have an audience

1677
01:30:44,380 --> 01:30:49,220
of 1 for sure and and if we 
please him, that's the most 

1678
01:30:49,220 --> 01:30:51,690
important thing. 
That's the all-encompassing 

1679
01:30:51,690 --> 01:30:55,050
important thing. 
And as a byproduct if somebody 

1680
01:30:55,050 --> 01:30:59,450
gets saved or edified or 
encouraged or what have you then

1681
01:30:59,450 --> 01:31:03,570
then that's definitely like a 
runoff from the blessing that 

1682
01:31:03,570 --> 01:31:05,890
that you know we want to give to
God. 

1683
01:31:06,370 --> 01:31:08,810
God gives to us. 
It's all worth it for sure. 

1684
01:31:09,050 --> 01:31:10,610
Amen for sure. 
Absolutely. 

1685
01:31:10,810 --> 01:31:12,090
So let me ask you this real 
quick. 

1686
01:31:12,090 --> 01:31:13,690
What? 
What's one of the most like? 

1687
01:31:14,710 --> 01:31:17,470
What What's your favorite 
episode that you've created? 

1688
01:31:17,470 --> 01:31:19,950
Like, like, what's that one 
interview where it's like you 

1689
01:31:19,950 --> 01:31:22,550
actually go back on a rainy day 
and listen to it and you're 

1690
01:31:22,550 --> 01:31:26,790
like, oh, this is the one, You 
know, like, like for all the 

1691
01:31:26,790 --> 01:31:30,470
years of podcasting or what 
would that one go to? 

1692
01:31:31,310 --> 01:31:36,350
I have to say, I love all of our
guests that were on our show, 

1693
01:31:37,190 --> 01:31:43,890
but the one that popped into my 
head the most in which was open 

1694
01:31:43,890 --> 01:31:47,370
to the public. 
It was controversial in a good 

1695
01:31:47,370 --> 01:31:50,570
way. 
It was just in the fall of the 

1696
01:31:50,570 --> 01:31:53,210
former 4th Watch radio. 
Do you know who does the Fall 

1697
01:31:53,210 --> 01:31:55,290
is? 
I've heard of them. 

1698
01:31:55,290 --> 01:31:58,450
I actually ordered some DVD 
sets, I'd say in like 2019 or 

1699
01:31:58,450 --> 01:32:01,570
2020, where I believe he was 
involved in the production. 

1700
01:32:01,570 --> 01:32:04,770
And I've heard the name thrown 
around, but I can't put a face 

1701
01:32:04,770 --> 01:32:06,090
to it. 
Yeah, gotcha. 

1702
01:32:06,370 --> 01:32:10,410
So he so lately he's been doing 
documentaries with his brother 

1703
01:32:10,410 --> 01:32:16,090
Westfall and he has some amazing
videos on Vimeo, like one called

1704
01:32:16,090 --> 01:32:22,130
The Hollow Earth, another one 
that exposes America's dark I'll

1705
01:32:22,130 --> 01:32:27,730
be at Freemasons Satanic roots 
and there's there's two other 

1706
01:32:27,730 --> 01:32:29,370
ones I forget. 
So I think there's a total of 

1707
01:32:29,370 --> 01:32:31,130
four ordered. 
Some DVD's I'm trying to 

1708
01:32:31,130 --> 01:32:32,930
remember. 
It's like on the tip of my 

1709
01:32:32,930 --> 01:32:34,530
tongue what it was called me 
too. 

1710
01:32:35,330 --> 01:32:37,170
So he. 
Interviewed Tom Horne. 

1711
01:32:37,620 --> 01:32:39,540
And like Derek Gilbert, a couple
of different people in like 

1712
01:32:39,540 --> 01:32:42,380
these different settings. 
And he was talking about like 

1713
01:32:42,380 --> 01:32:44,620
some secret societies or 
something like that. 

1714
01:32:45,220 --> 01:32:46,660
Yeah, I know, I know. 
Who you're talking about? 

1715
01:32:46,660 --> 01:32:47,780
Yeah, you know I'm talking 
about, right? 

1716
01:32:48,060 --> 01:32:50,360
Yeah, so. 
But when he was doing more of 

1717
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,440
the podcasting and not so much 
of the documentaries. 

1718
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:57,440
So he and Kay Carswell, my 
former Co Hostess who's went on 

1719
01:32:57,440 --> 01:33:03,040
to be with Lord and I did a show
on Giants and that was on blog 

1720
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:06,600
talk radio and we did not know 
what we were getting involved, 

1721
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:08,320
what we were getting ourselves 
into. 

1722
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,800
So when Channing had opened the 
floodgates, there was a man and 

1723
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,280
and again, I was just a 
facilitator. 

1724
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:16,080
So I wasn't a debater or 
anything like that. 

1725
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,310
I didn't. 
I didn't do the biblical defense

1726
01:33:18,310 --> 01:33:21,270
of Giants and Nefa Lim, but 
Justin did. 

1727
01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:26,190
So this this dude, this older 
dude calls him and he says he 

1728
01:33:26,190 --> 01:33:34,910
says, well you know, angels 
don't have genitals, right? 

1729
01:33:35,310 --> 01:33:42,660
And he said, Sir, he said, well 
angels don't have genitals or 

1730
01:33:42,860 --> 01:33:45,620
and and then he Then Justin 
asked him what will he ever have

1731
01:33:45,620 --> 01:33:47,260
you ever seen an Angel with his 
pants down. 

1732
01:33:50,580 --> 01:33:55,820
And so but he did a really good 
biblical defense that the in 

1733
01:33:55,820 --> 01:34:01,220
Genesis 6 that the the sons of 
God who are the fallen angels 

1734
01:34:02,700 --> 01:34:06,970
had saw that the Dodgers went 
little, beautiful and and had 

1735
01:34:07,010 --> 01:34:09,690
sex with them. 
Their their their children were 

1736
01:34:09,690 --> 01:34:13,690
the nephalem were the giants. 
Because that flies in the face 

1737
01:34:13,810 --> 01:34:18,690
of 90% of what's taught in 
seminary that that the sons of 

1738
01:34:18,690 --> 01:34:24,890
God were the righteous men of 
Seth and the daughters of men 

1739
01:34:24,970 --> 01:34:28,570
were the daughters of Cain. 
And that doesn't make any sense 

1740
01:34:28,570 --> 01:34:31,890
because when you get human man 
versus human woman or human man 

1741
01:34:32,470 --> 01:34:35,710
plus human woman, their 
offspring shouldn't be the 

1742
01:34:35,710 --> 01:34:38,910
anomalous giants men ever known.
Nephilim or what have you. 

1743
01:34:39,470 --> 01:34:41,750
And but it wasn't, it wasn't 
debate. 

1744
01:34:42,830 --> 01:34:44,590
I'll have to send you the link 
sometime. 

1745
01:34:44,590 --> 01:34:46,910
I mean, I might put the link in 
the show notes or something so 

1746
01:34:46,910 --> 01:34:49,310
people can listen. 
Yeah, send it to me so I can 

1747
01:34:49,310 --> 01:34:51,070
listen to it. 
And I definitely want to add 

1748
01:34:51,070 --> 01:34:53,790
that to the show notes. 
I think that's awesome. 

1749
01:34:54,030 --> 01:34:55,630
That's the one that pops into my
head the most. 

1750
01:34:55,630 --> 01:35:00,780
Just not because they are more 
important than the other guests 

1751
01:35:00,780 --> 01:35:02,860
we've had. 
It's just that that was at the 

1752
01:35:02,860 --> 01:35:05,380
beginning of when I first 
started podcasting and not the 

1753
01:35:05,380 --> 01:35:07,540
first one. 
That was like maybe the 7th, 

1754
01:35:07,540 --> 01:35:10,340
1:00. 
I've done and and and also it 

1755
01:35:10,340 --> 01:35:15,820
was like what the beginning of 
my podcasting and it was open to

1756
01:35:15,820 --> 01:35:18,660
the public. 
I have never fielded questions 

1757
01:35:18,780 --> 01:35:22,220
from the public before. 
It was just that episode and and

1758
01:35:22,580 --> 01:35:26,660
so folks, I, I if any, if 
there's any podcasters out 

1759
01:35:26,660 --> 01:35:30,540
there, I do not recommend that 
you allow callers to call in 

1760
01:35:30,540 --> 01:35:34,020
unless they're fielded, unless 
they're vetted by like an 

1761
01:35:34,020 --> 01:35:35,980
assistant or something. 
But it wasn't. 

1762
01:35:35,980 --> 01:35:38,060
It was amusing. 
It was really amusing though, 

1763
01:35:38,810 --> 01:35:42,130
but more than anything it really
it the the, the controversy or 

1764
01:35:42,130 --> 01:35:45,170
the conflict actually showed 
Justin Fall. 

1765
01:35:45,730 --> 01:35:50,970
He really just really hit a home
run with the apologetics, you 

1766
01:35:50,970 --> 01:35:55,210
know, regarding the the biblical
origins of of the giants. 

1767
01:35:55,290 --> 01:35:57,770
And so I think that's why it 
stuck out to my mind the most. 

1768
01:36:00,010 --> 01:36:03,210
How about you? 
What's the one that sticks out 

1769
01:36:03,330 --> 01:36:05,490
in your in your head the most? 
Or the top two or so? 

1770
01:36:06,610 --> 01:36:10,420
Yeah, I mean. 
So I was asked like a similar 

1771
01:36:10,420 --> 01:36:14,540
question and normally what I'll 
do in my mind is I'll go back to

1772
01:36:14,540 --> 01:36:17,340
like the the very beginning of 
like podcasting. 

1773
01:36:17,340 --> 01:36:20,100
Like there was these like 
inclemental moments where it's 

1774
01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:22,300
like I really understood 
something significant was 

1775
01:36:22,300 --> 01:36:24,420
happening. 
So like I shared about when my 

1776
01:36:24,420 --> 01:36:27,620
sister came on and like shared 
this hat man experience that she

1777
01:36:27,620 --> 01:36:30,420
had. 
And I think what was so cool 

1778
01:36:30,420 --> 01:36:33,460
about that is like. 
Here, like, we grew up in this 

1779
01:36:33,740 --> 01:36:35,580
old, famous Philadelphia 
farmhouse. 

1780
01:36:35,580 --> 01:36:38,180
There's a bunch of history in 
the house that I grew up in. 

1781
01:36:38,220 --> 01:36:42,260
And my sister, when she was 
younger, had this hat man 

1782
01:36:42,260 --> 01:36:44,740
experience. 
She sees this hat man at the top

1783
01:36:44,740 --> 01:36:47,220
of, like, I think at the third, 
yeah, the third story of the 

1784
01:36:47,220 --> 01:36:52,500
house and that that was talked 
about like, just with, like, 

1785
01:36:52,500 --> 01:36:55,180
friends and family, like like 
minutely, right. 

1786
01:36:55,180 --> 01:36:57,380
And then over the years, it was 
kind of like, kind of forgotten 

1787
01:36:57,380 --> 01:37:00,140
about, like every once in a blue
moon, somebody would bring it up

1788
01:37:00,140 --> 01:37:00,980
or something like that. 
But. 

1789
01:37:01,650 --> 01:37:06,210
That that was a moment where I 
interview her in season one. 

1790
01:37:06,210 --> 01:37:09,610
She shares different like dreams
and stuff that she's had shares 

1791
01:37:09,610 --> 01:37:11,730
the hat man experience. 
It felt good. 

1792
01:37:11,730 --> 01:37:14,370
She got it off her chest. 
I felt good capturing it. 

1793
01:37:14,730 --> 01:37:17,530
And like, we aired it all out. 
So that was like a moment where 

1794
01:37:17,530 --> 01:37:20,290
I'm like and then I looked and 
I'm like, I'm not a numbers guy.

1795
01:37:20,290 --> 01:37:22,250
I don't look at numbers. 
I don't work with people. 

1796
01:37:22,250 --> 01:37:24,410
Based upon how many numbers or 
popularity. 

1797
01:37:24,410 --> 01:37:26,690
I think that that's nonsense. 
I think that that's people just 

1798
01:37:26,690 --> 01:37:29,570
looking for. 
For reputation over who our 

1799
01:37:29,570 --> 01:37:33,930
audience of 1 is concerned. 
But that episode got some 

1800
01:37:33,930 --> 01:37:37,130
downloads, and I'm like, well, 
then people will listen. 

1801
01:37:37,130 --> 01:37:39,730
Like people are actually 
interested, you know, because it

1802
01:37:39,730 --> 01:37:41,650
was kind of weird to be like, 
oh, I'm a Christian and I've 

1803
01:37:41,650 --> 01:37:45,410
seen a ghost like here or there,
like a few years ago. 

1804
01:37:45,410 --> 01:37:50,170
Now it's just like, you know, 
everybody and anybody is talking

1805
01:37:50,170 --> 01:37:52,890
about it now, just people 
randomly have all different 

1806
01:37:52,890 --> 01:37:56,810
positions and spectrums of like 
importance all the way down to. 

1807
01:37:57,730 --> 01:38:01,130
The basic person next door. 
I'll have a story to tell now, 

1808
01:38:01,450 --> 01:38:03,490
but I but I think that was like 
a really big moment. 

1809
01:38:04,010 --> 01:38:07,210
And there's a couple others. 
I mean, like, knock my socks off

1810
01:38:07,210 --> 01:38:09,570
guests. 
I'd say Doctor Laura obviously, 

1811
01:38:10,530 --> 01:38:12,730
but because there's back story 
with her too. 

1812
01:38:12,730 --> 01:38:17,370
So it's like not just an e-mail 
And then oh, I'm hearing her 

1813
01:38:17,450 --> 01:38:20,610
voice for the first time. 
I go through like this really 

1814
01:38:20,610 --> 01:38:24,970
dark place where, you know, we 
lose the house, our first house 

1815
01:38:24,970 --> 01:38:27,580
we're buying. 
Because of like some some coding

1816
01:38:27,580 --> 01:38:29,700
stuff and well and whatever, 
right? 

1817
01:38:30,100 --> 01:38:32,060
It doesn't go through. 
And then my wife's in a car 

1818
01:38:32,060 --> 01:38:34,860
accident and I lose half my 
income all within like a two 

1819
01:38:34,860 --> 01:38:37,660
week span. 
This is 21. 

1820
01:38:38,780 --> 01:38:41,340
So like Doctor Laura who was 
like scheduled to come on, we're

1821
01:38:41,340 --> 01:38:43,940
emailing. 
We had like I think maybe one or

1822
01:38:43,940 --> 01:38:45,900
two phone calls. 
At that point I cancel 

1823
01:38:45,900 --> 01:38:49,420
everything and she actually is 
like, I felt like in the spirit,

1824
01:38:49,420 --> 01:38:52,140
something's going wrong here. 
So she actually takes time. 

1825
01:38:52,540 --> 01:38:55,660
To pray and encourage me. 
And there's like, no microphone 

1826
01:38:55,660 --> 01:38:58,420
on, right? 
But behind the scenes, it's like

1827
01:38:58,420 --> 01:39:02,580
she's sharing with me and 
experiences she had years ago. 

1828
01:39:02,580 --> 01:39:06,580
And you know, she, she almost 
fell apart and lost everything. 

1829
01:39:06,900 --> 01:39:09,620
And like how she's like, you 
just focus on God, just the 

1830
01:39:09,620 --> 01:39:13,260
encouragement focusing on God. 
And just so like she comes on 

1831
01:39:13,260 --> 01:39:15,380
the show, like, I think the 
podcast has ended. 

1832
01:39:15,780 --> 01:39:17,380
I kind of played around with the
waters a little bit. 

1833
01:39:17,380 --> 01:39:19,260
Should I start it? 
But God, I didn't get the green 

1834
01:39:19,260 --> 01:39:21,220
light everyone's telling me. 
So I'm like, Nope, I'm not 

1835
01:39:21,220 --> 01:39:24,580
really feeling it. 
And then all the sudden, like 

1836
01:39:24,580 --> 01:39:26,380
something, you know, I get the 
green light pretty much from 

1837
01:39:26,380 --> 01:39:29,820
God, He's like, OK, start the 
show back up because there was 

1838
01:39:29,820 --> 01:39:31,540
too much going on in my private 
life. 

1839
01:39:32,260 --> 01:39:34,460
The podcast was not more 
important than the condition of 

1840
01:39:34,460 --> 01:39:36,860
my household. 
It was not more important than 

1841
01:39:36,860 --> 01:39:39,820
the condition of my household. 
Like, that's my ministry first. 

1842
01:39:40,140 --> 01:39:42,940
So I put the podcast on the side
and then things got a little bit

1843
01:39:42,940 --> 01:39:44,860
better. 
And then God was like, OK, go 

1844
01:39:44,860 --> 01:39:47,340
with it. 
So when Doctor Laura came on, it

1845
01:39:47,340 --> 01:39:49,500
was just like months. 
Like I'm, you know, months and 

1846
01:39:49,500 --> 01:39:51,340
months of all this going on and 
I seen. 

1847
01:39:52,130 --> 01:39:56,050
The the the diligency of just 
trusting God's voice and walking

1848
01:39:56,050 --> 01:39:59,810
through dark and hard times that
he'll he'll actually bring you 

1849
01:40:00,170 --> 01:40:02,330
to where you thought you were 
just about to be, but he might 

1850
01:40:02,330 --> 01:40:04,770
test you along the way. 
So I think that that was like, 

1851
01:40:05,250 --> 01:40:09,610
knocked my socks off personally.
But there's every episode of 

1852
01:40:09,610 --> 01:40:12,410
being something to me, like, I 
don't air just anything on the 

1853
01:40:12,410 --> 01:40:17,170
Millennium Mustard Seed. 
I've literally had people say, 

1854
01:40:17,170 --> 01:40:19,410
why did you have this person on?
Why did you cover this kind of 

1855
01:40:19,410 --> 01:40:20,170
content? 
And I'm going. 

1856
01:40:20,170 --> 01:40:22,720
Listen. 
Yes, of course. 

1857
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,560
But. 
But my thing is, is I want to 

1858
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:26,640
capture what I see people are 
doing right? 

1859
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:30,320
I don't want to, like, make 
episodes on like like like God 

1860
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,680
is going to correct people. 
The ministries that are not 

1861
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:34,480
supposed to be here, the 
podcasts that are not supposed 

1862
01:40:34,480 --> 01:40:38,000
to be here will not be long 
until they are off the grid and 

1863
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:39,360
forgotten. 
And I don't say that of 

1864
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:41,640
boldness. 
I say that because God is not 

1865
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,040
pleased with certain things and 
certain things he is pleased 

1866
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:45,440
with. 
And the things that move 

1867
01:40:45,440 --> 01:40:47,800
forward, he's going to make that
known as time goes on. 

1868
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:50,280
And the things that he's not 
pleased with, he's going to 

1869
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:53,720
disassemble it. 
But the thing that that I was 

1870
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,400
starting to understand was I 
didn't want. 

1871
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,720
It's not my job to be 
disciplined in people. 

1872
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,000
If if somebody's in Christ and 
they're doing something real 

1873
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,800
crazy, it is. 
I believe it's the body's job to

1874
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:07,520
be like, yo, listen, this is 
where you at, like what's really

1875
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:09,360
going on here. 
But just because somebody's a 

1876
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:11,840
little bit theologically 
different in a sense or maybe 

1877
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:13,800
they take the satellite view, 
I'm not going to. 

1878
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:16,680
It's not my job to write a book 
about everything they're doing 

1879
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:18,240
wrong. 
If I capture something, they are

1880
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:20,650
doing right. 
And I really feel and I pray 

1881
01:41:20,650 --> 01:41:23,010
about it and I'm watching and 
I'm, I'm watching in the 

1882
01:41:23,010 --> 01:41:27,290
background and I'm going, okay, 
God, This is a good thing that 

1883
01:41:27,290 --> 01:41:30,330
they're standing for. 
I want to capture that because I

1884
01:41:30,330 --> 01:41:32,930
believe we all have a little 
something wrong and we all have 

1885
01:41:32,930 --> 01:41:34,810
a little something right. 
I don't discriminate. 

1886
01:41:34,810 --> 01:41:35,890
I don't care if you're a 
theologian. 

1887
01:41:35,890 --> 01:41:37,290
I don't care if you're the guy 
next door. 

1888
01:41:37,450 --> 01:41:40,090
We all have a little something 
wrong and we all have a little 

1889
01:41:40,090 --> 01:41:42,810
something right. 
And God gave me that in 

1890
01:41:42,810 --> 01:41:44,650
confidence. 
I say that I don't care who 

1891
01:41:44,650 --> 01:41:46,050
would be on the receiving end of
that. 

1892
01:41:46,570 --> 01:41:49,290
In the humility and the 
confidence and the meekness, 

1893
01:41:50,620 --> 01:41:54,180
we're all moving towards a 
deeper revelation of who Christ 

1894
01:41:54,180 --> 01:41:58,180
is and what he's about to do. 
So with that kind of stuff, I 

1895
01:41:58,180 --> 01:42:01,460
just air well on the show what I
feel like I'm capturing as good 

1896
01:42:01,460 --> 01:42:04,100
and beautiful. 
And like, I like just any 

1897
01:42:04,100 --> 01:42:08,500
conversation. 
If it gets the green light from 

1898
01:42:08,500 --> 01:42:11,060
God, I air it. 
You know what I mean on that? 

1899
01:42:11,380 --> 01:42:14,100
It's that kind of thing where 
it's like, OK, this is going to 

1900
01:42:14,100 --> 01:42:17,110
help somebody, but I think 
there's there's over 

1901
01:42:17,110 --> 01:42:18,510
entertainment in a lot of ways 
too. 

1902
01:42:18,510 --> 01:42:22,150
I think a lot of people are just
way more concerned with 

1903
01:42:22,390 --> 01:42:25,790
entertainment or popularity. 
Am I covering a topic that is 

1904
01:42:25,790 --> 01:42:27,710
popular? 
I can see other people covering 

1905
01:42:27,710 --> 01:42:30,430
it or is it really like there's 
loose ends here. 

1906
01:42:30,430 --> 01:42:32,870
This is helpful for my journey 
and I know it's going to affect 

1907
01:42:32,870 --> 01:42:35,070
other people. 
So I think that's that's 

1908
01:42:35,070 --> 01:42:37,670
important that that's really 
important as a podcaster, 

1909
01:42:37,670 --> 01:42:40,640
because I've said already and 
I'll say it again, I don't know 

1910
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:43,200
if I'll be podcasting in six 
months from now or in two years 

1911
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:46,680
from now. 
I have learned it is better to 

1912
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:49,720
just say okay, God, continue to 
prepare me for what's next 

1913
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:53,720
because I do not want the 
whooping if I try to run or say 

1914
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:57,080
no like that hurts, there's 
enough going on, I don't want to

1915
01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:59,800
be with you. 
So hopefully that encourages 

1916
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:03,000
somebody out there as well as is
being malleable to where God's 

1917
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,280
calling us and what he's 
choosing to do. 

1918
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:10,430
But then also recognizing the 
mouthpiece has a function in the

1919
01:43:10,430 --> 01:43:15,270
body and we can't, you know, we 
can't try to negate certain 

1920
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:18,150
functions of the body and no 
wonder why the body Christ isn't

1921
01:43:18,150 --> 01:43:21,430
firing on all cylinders. 
So when we do have something to 

1922
01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:24,630
share, when it is edifying, when
it is for our learning, our 

1923
01:43:24,630 --> 01:43:28,550
rebuke or just I hate to say 
entertainment because of the 

1924
01:43:28,550 --> 01:43:31,230
entertainment industry, but 
there there should be healthy 

1925
01:43:31,230 --> 01:43:34,030
entertainment for Christians. 
Like we need alternative things 

1926
01:43:34,030 --> 01:43:38,070
to go to and listen to, whether 
it just be some good clean humor

1927
01:43:38,350 --> 01:43:40,950
or just conversations. 
Like somebody wants to wash the 

1928
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:43,350
dishes, Somebody's washing the 
dishes right now and they just 

1929
01:43:43,350 --> 01:43:45,310
want to listen to me and you 
talk and share our stories. 

1930
01:43:45,310 --> 01:43:46,990
Like, that's cool. 
That's better than what the 

1931
01:43:46,990 --> 01:43:49,790
world wants to recycle. 
So I believe there's a time and 

1932
01:43:49,790 --> 01:43:52,790
space for all this and I and I 
really like and enjoy what you 

1933
01:43:52,790 --> 01:43:56,390
do. 
And I recognized, you know, 

1934
01:43:56,390 --> 01:43:58,830
you're doing stuff behind the 
scenes and just really promoting

1935
01:43:58,830 --> 01:44:02,550
people and being positive and 
and, you know, just not being 

1936
01:44:02,550 --> 01:44:06,280
unashamed of the gospel. 
So really it's an honor to have 

1937
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:09,400
been on this episode with you 
and just to get to know you 

1938
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:14,120
better and to collaborate and 
and just share our stories. 

1939
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,640
So super cool. 
That's awesome. 

1940
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:21,760
I'm very honored and blessed 
with being in this collaboration

1941
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:25,520
podcast with you, and it's 
amazing how the Lord brings 

1942
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,040
people together. 
I think that we had met through,

1943
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:30,680
I believe, Blurry Creatures. 
Is that correct? 

1944
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:37,700
No, actually you started that 
message group or something like 

1945
01:44:37,700 --> 01:44:40,660
that for after the William 
Ramsey roundtable episode. 

1946
01:44:41,740 --> 01:44:44,300
So really somebody, I think it 
was Chris. 

1947
01:44:44,620 --> 01:44:46,460
He's he. 
Cracked me in on that. 

1948
01:44:46,460 --> 01:44:48,300
Yeah, he added me and I'm like, 
this is going on. 

1949
01:44:48,340 --> 01:44:49,860
What world did I just enter 
into? 

1950
01:44:49,860 --> 01:44:51,700
There's like all these other 
pockets. 

1951
01:44:51,700 --> 01:44:54,140
There's some stuff going on. 
But there was this like nine 

1952
01:44:54,180 --> 01:44:58,100
person panel where I was invited
to join with William Ramsey. 

1953
01:44:58,940 --> 01:45:01,620
William is and I know who Chuck 
from fire theft is. 

1954
01:45:01,620 --> 01:45:02,980
So I'm like, yeah, sure, I'll 
join. 

1955
01:45:03,220 --> 01:45:06,110
At least know two of these 
people and then kind of got 

1956
01:45:06,110 --> 01:45:08,990
introduced to you from that 
point in time is the first time 

1957
01:45:08,990 --> 01:45:11,630
I really seen your face heard 
your show or anything. 

1958
01:45:11,630 --> 01:45:14,910
So that was the starting point. 
What was what you had put 

1959
01:45:14,910 --> 01:45:18,510
together with Michael Basham and
and everybody else to do that 

1960
01:45:18,870 --> 01:45:20,830
round table episode. 
That's how That's how I. 

1961
01:45:21,070 --> 01:45:21,990
Found OK. 
OK. 

1962
01:45:22,030 --> 01:45:22,950
That's great. 
I'm glad. 

1963
01:45:22,990 --> 01:45:25,310
I'm glad that you mentioned that
that it was Chris Price that 

1964
01:45:25,310 --> 01:45:29,670
invited you into the Christian 
podcast group and I know that 

1965
01:45:29,670 --> 01:45:32,270
that's not all inclusive of 
every Christian podcaster. 

1966
01:45:32,270 --> 01:45:33,790
So if you're listening out there
and. 

1967
01:45:34,250 --> 01:45:37,730
And you? 
We haven't collaborated, please 

1968
01:45:37,890 --> 01:45:42,930
send us a message. 
We would love to hear from you 

1969
01:45:42,970 --> 01:45:45,010
for sure. 
You can send it to 

1970
01:45:45,010 --> 01:45:48,490
strangeoclock@yahoo.com. 
Or do you have an e-mail that 

1971
01:45:48,490 --> 01:45:51,810
they can send something to you? 
Yeah, actually in my show notes 

1972
01:45:51,850 --> 01:45:53,890
I have the e-mail address on the
website 

1973
01:45:53,890 --> 01:46:02,070
butitsr.j.a.j.smith77@icloud.com.
Okay. 

1974
01:46:02,070 --> 01:46:04,670
So they can e-mail you? 
Yeah, let me make sure I got 

1975
01:46:04,670 --> 01:46:06,670
that right. 
This sounds crazy, but I don't 

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even know. 
It's okay. 

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I could look it up. 
I do like show notes and stuff 

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all the time. 
I don't. 

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Well, that's right. 
It'll be in the show notes of 

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your e-mail. 
And yeah, I got it right, just 

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RJ ajsmith77icloud.com if 
somebody wants to reach out to 

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me. 
But in the episode Show Notes 

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you guys will find, I'll do 
links for anybody that I have on

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01:46:25,950 --> 01:46:27,790
or just like brief. 
I'll write out a brief 

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01:46:27,790 --> 01:46:30,220
description of what the 
episode's about, and in this 

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01:46:30,220 --> 01:46:33,500
case, you'll be able to find. 
For one, this airs on my show. 

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You'll be able to find a strange
o'clock podcast. 

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What What Peach is Doing. 
Michael Bash and what they're 

1989
01:46:38,540 --> 01:46:41,180
doing over there is really cool.
They've had some awesome guests 

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on. 
So for my listeners, all the 

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01:46:43,180 --> 01:46:46,900
mustards, see faith out there. 
We're we're small and a strong 

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01:46:46,900 --> 01:46:49,100
community. 
You guys don't understand the 

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01:46:49,100 --> 01:46:54,060
significance of this core group 
of just just us who who are 

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01:46:54,060 --> 01:46:56,220
loving the Lord and listening to
all these podcasts over here. 

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Keep praying for me and for 
their show and go over and show 

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them some loves. 
The five star ratings and 

1997
01:47:01,770 --> 01:47:05,970
reviews for them and you guys 
got some awesome guests that I 

1998
01:47:05,970 --> 01:47:07,970
was like, man, I was kind of 
blown away by a couple of those 

1999
01:47:07,970 --> 01:47:09,730
episodes. 
I was like, wow, that really 

2000
01:47:09,730 --> 01:47:12,890
helped me get through the week. 
The Deliverance episode I forget

2001
01:47:12,890 --> 01:47:14,570
was Steve, I want to say. 
Was it? 

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Steve Harmon, Yeah, Steve 
Harmon, yeah. 

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There's a couple episodes. 
I was like, wow, that's good. 

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01:47:19,850 --> 01:47:23,770
I listened to podcasts, but I 
don't listen to, like, a ton of 

2005
01:47:23,770 --> 01:47:26,370
different podcasts anymore. 
Like as time goes on, I listen 

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01:47:26,370 --> 01:47:28,590
to less and less and I'm like, 
right, right. 

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Reading or audible listening to 
like audio books or just sure 

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01:47:32,190 --> 01:47:35,110
getting wild in my own mind. 
Like I gotta create some cool 

2009
01:47:35,110 --> 01:47:36,950
content here. 
Like I get ideas where I'm like 

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this would be hilarious or this 
needs to be covered. 

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Right, right. 
Awesome. 

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And I I forgot to tell you how 
much I enjoyed that your 

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01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:47,030
conversation with Doctor Laura 
Singer. 

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I really, I really liked that 
episode and that was really 

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01:47:50,730 --> 01:47:54,570
heartfelt. 
And I really, I really like any 

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01:47:54,570 --> 01:47:56,930
shows she does, especially the 
show that you did with her. 

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01:47:56,930 --> 01:47:58,770
I really like that. 
That's definitely one of my 

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01:47:58,850 --> 01:48:01,330
favorites. 
Like four times I think now we 

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01:48:01,330 --> 01:48:02,090
covered matters. 
Awesome. 

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01:48:02,690 --> 01:48:07,410
Yeah, we covered on breaking, 
breaking, iniquity and stuff 

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like that, and then the 
spiritual mapping, the Nephilim 

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01:48:10,310 --> 01:48:13,350
agenda and then we she was on 
real recently actually, I think 

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01:48:13,470 --> 01:48:16,550
a month or two ago I dropped it 
and it was the fear of the Lord 

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in defeating giants. 
And each one of them is just 

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like, man, this is crazy. 
You definitely have great 

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episodes and I love the guests 
that you've interviewed. 

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I I'd. 
I need to catch up, but I 

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listened to the last two with 
Dan de Waal, which is definitely

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a heavy hitter, and also the one
with Enoch Putrice, our mutual 

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friend. 
And then I've listened to four 

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or five shows before that, and 
each one of them have been 

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amazing. 
You're one of the best Christian

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01:48:44,330 --> 01:48:46,850
hosts that I've heard. 
You're very warm and friendly 

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and you're very honest and 
authentic and I'm really 

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blessed. 
And impressed by by your podcast

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01:48:54,030 --> 01:48:56,470
and and you in general you you 
definitely are a man of 

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01:48:56,470 --> 01:49:02,390
character it and some would say 
for a millennial but you but you

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01:49:02,630 --> 01:49:06,030
really stand out among your 
peers for sure and and so glad 

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that that you're that you're a 
voice for this your generation 

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and you're really speaking faith
to them because every generation

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whether a through Z needs the 
Lord Jesus and and I think that.

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There's not enough people that 
that give millennials or or even

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the younger generations kudos, 
you know, for for having faith 

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and and yes it's you know, faith
and going to church and reading 

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the Bible and have a 
relationship with Jesus. 

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It seems to be dwindling, you 
know, less and less, but at the 

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same time it's more and more so.
So, so yes, there's only like 

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10% of Generation Y&Z that has 
like biblical Christian faith. 

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But out of that 10%, oh boy, 
those people are on fire for 

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Jesus And and it's, you know, 
the as, as the Bible says, a 

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remnant will be saved. 
And even if it is, you know 

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however many you know that is. 
But, but that whatever 10 or 20%

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of people can can you know light
the world on fire and and share 

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the love and passion of Jesus. 
You know with with those people,

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you know, whether it's 
podcasting or Youtubing or tik 

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01:50:13,130 --> 01:50:15,890
toking, you know there's there's
young people. 

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As a matter of fact, I I know 
that this young couple now, my 

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gosh, I was blown away by Nick 
and Alyssa Dawson and. 

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And they're. 
I think they're in their late 

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20s. 
I'm not sure. 

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But they used to be prayer 
counselors for Pastor Vlad 

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Savchuk's ministry and then they
win people to the Lord through 

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TikTok And like I'm not even 
doing that. 

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I just put out podcasts. 
I mean, but he's on the phone 

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with them. 
Like I don't know about now, but

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I I think now but but I know 
that he he was at least and he 

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might be still be doing now 
talking to people for like 4 

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hours a day who are saying that 
they're suicidal. 

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Or they're you know on drugs and
they want to get off drugs and 

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and they they are have questions
about Jesus. 

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They have questions about God 
and like Oh my gosh, I need to 

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be present for people. 
I really want to switch gears 

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and not just put out shows, but 
also to be to really be 

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interactive with people And and 
I think that part of it would be

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01:51:16,270 --> 01:51:19,470
probably getting on some of 
these platforms where there's a 

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lot of younger people like 
TikTok. 

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01:51:23,810 --> 01:51:26,050
And and things like that. 
But anyway. 

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But it was wonderful 
collaborating with you. 

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01:51:29,090 --> 01:51:31,010
Rod. 
Once again I'm so blessed by 

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your testimonial and interacting
with you and I do hope and pray 

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01:51:35,370 --> 01:51:38,770
that that this does reach people
and and plan to seed in their 

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01:51:38,770 --> 01:51:42,890
hearts or or a strange 
millennial mustard seed in their

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01:51:42,890 --> 01:51:47,050
hearts. 
We'll have to do this again in 

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01:51:47,090 --> 01:51:51,010
in the future and I love to talk
with tell Michael Bash and I 

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01:51:51,010 --> 01:51:53,680
said what's up and I hope he's 
doing well. 

2086
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:56,120
I see his lives every once in a 
while and I'll jump on. 

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01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:59,600
And he's always like the Mustard
Seed is here watching me. 

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01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:02,320
And I was like, I love his 
personality, I think. 

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01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:03,800
He's Oh yeah. 
He's got a he's a cool guy. 

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So I would love to talk with him
at some point in time in the 

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future both of both of you. 
And thank you for being cool and

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01:52:13,480 --> 01:52:16,720
being you. 
And you, you have so much to 

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01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:19,200
offer the Kingdom and I'm just 
excited to see what God does 

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01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:22,080
moving forward with the Strange 
podcast so. 

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And vice versa. 
I'm excited to see what the Lord

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01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,240
is using, how the Lord is using 
you. 

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01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:30,960
And I can see He has and and I 
can see The Who will continue to

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01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:35,920
to use you to to reach people 
through your direct message, 

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01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,680
your direct testimonial, as well
as that your guest that you have

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on there. 
So kudos to you and and. 

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Absolutely. 
And and I mean every bit of it 

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and Michael and I would love to 
have you on again to to talk 

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01:52:46,450 --> 01:52:49,010
about some other topic if you 
want. 

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01:52:49,010 --> 01:52:51,090
And we'll have to pray about it 
and chat about it. 

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01:52:51,130 --> 01:52:54,650
But thank you so much for 
listening and watching the this 

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01:52:54,650 --> 01:52:57,250
Strange Millennial Mustard Seed 
podcast. 

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01:52:57,610 --> 01:52:59,330
We love you and we're praying 
for you. 

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We'd love to hear from you. 
Feel free to e-mail us or or 

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contact us through Facebook 
Messenger. 

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Have a Strange and Supernatural 
day, everybody. 

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Bye. 
It's time for the Strange 

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o'clock Podcast, where you get 
to hear strange news with 

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01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:38,320
Christian views as well as the 
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