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favorite quizzing podcast show. Before we start today's episode,
there is the small matter of the audience question, which I
answer at the end of the episode.
So X is an honorific bestowed by the State of Israel,
commemorated by a medal. Those recognized by this
honorific title are honored in a section of Yad Vashem, Israel's
official memorial to the victims of the Holocaust.
Identify this honorific and the reason why it's conferred.
I'll just repeat the question. X is an honorific bestowed by
the State of Israel, commemorated by a medal.
Those recognized with the honorific X are honored in a
section of Yad Vashem, Israel's official memorial to the victims
of the Holocaust. What is this honorific?
X, and what's the reason it's conferred?
I'll answer this question at the end of the episode.
And before we go to the regular questions that we ask each other
in a back and forth fashion, Aditya has a banger of a
question that he had kept us on tenterhooks for from last
episode. So Aditya, what was your
question and what is your answer?
Vineet, my question last week was what word would be common
between both English and Telugu and would make a lot of sense
because it is common between these two languages.
And I realized the answer was right there, as my weekly
answers always are. Or at least I find them, and
then I pretend they were right there.
And here's where some basic knowledge of English helps.
Because as any child who starts learning English knows that
there are 5 vowels in English, right?
What are they beneath AEIOU. And if you were to pronounce
them all together, it basically sounds like IO, which is.
A very common word in most Dravidian languages, including
Telugu. So if IO was a word in English,
it would make learning English so much easier because it is a
word made entirely of vowels and no other consonants.
And that would be so simple and beautiful.
I I imagine Telugu should definitely learn English, that
word. I don't want to burst your
bubble, but IO has officially been introduced into the Oxford
English Dictionary. Well, I definitely knew that.
I'm not. Yeah.
So that coming. I guess, guys, just to be
completely frank here, this is a morning recording session for
Are You Quizzing me, which does not happen normally.
So if you do sound a bit off, it's probably because the
morning hours. But hey, let's assume that it's
going to be as great an episode as always.
OK, yes, in spite of the fact that we are like vampires being
blinded by the sun right now. As Aditya mentioned, IO is in
fact a word, which is, it's spelled AIYO.
And it was, I think in the past couple of years, I'm not sure
which year I would have to look it up, but it has been included
in the sort of English Dictionary and it is, as he also
mentioned, a universal among the South Indian languages, the
Dravidian languages, Malayalam, Kannada, Telugu, Tamil.
So they're all basically it's like an interjection.
You basically express it to express distress or regret or
fear or things like that. So then my appeal is to OED to
change the official spelling and make AEIOU just just for the
laws of it. AEOU, another fact, and I like
the fact that you went with vowels with Telugu, because I
remember again, this is just off the top of my head.
I remember there was this European traveler, I don't
remember his name, who called Telugu the Italian of the East,
the Italian language of the East.
Because apparently the Italian language and Telugu language
share this thing where lot of words end in vowels.
So Aditya, your vowel thing does make sense in a way.
I definitely knew that as well. Thanks.
And sort of my ridiculous answers, I Yeah, yeah.
OK, so after those shenanigans, Aditya, why don't we start off
with a question from your side. All right.
Let me begin the proceedings. Vineet, which Indian TV show
actually originated in Brazil in 2007, also had a Pakistani
version and finally came to India in June of 2012 and was
revamped recently in 2023. You lost me there.
When you say Indian TV show, I don't watch a lot of Indian TV,
but is this like a reality show? You know what?
I should correct myself here. Not necessarily ATV show, but
it's more of a series. So I use the word TV show very
liberally. Here it's more oh, OK, OK, so so
when you say TV show, my mind automatically goes to, you know,
reality TV shows and game shows and things like that.
OK, fine, fine. So ATV series that came from
Brazil and then to Pakistan and then to India and was revamped
recently 2012, you said, right? 2012 was when it first launched
in India. Yes, OK, my knowledge of Indian
TV series from that time is a little poor.
Like the my go to answer to for everything is CID or Ahad.
This is not a fictional series. Let me give you some more
information about this, OK? Like I said, it originated in
Brazil in 2007, it came to Pakistan in 2008 and it was
wildly popular in Pakistan. It has had fourteen seasons in
Pakistan. Oh wait, is this Coke Studio?
It is Coke Studio. You are right.
Because I was just thinking of what we would have copied, like
what would have been popular in Pakistan, which we would have
gone over. Yeah.
Yes. Now, now the question makes a
lot of sense. Yes, Coke.
Also Coke Studio started in Brazil.
That is actually what was the most interesting part of this
question for me, that it started in 2007 in Brazil as a unique
fusion music project that aimed to blend to contrasting
Brazilian artists and their musical styles.
So that's when it first started. I really want to find more.
Of Coke Studio Brazil. Information of videos or music.
I haven't been able to find it, so if any listener wants to
share it with us, I'd be very grateful.
Please send it to us on a social media or on our e-mail.
More information at the end of the episode.
But yeah, it started in Brazil in 2007.
It became wildly popular in Pakistan starting 2008.
But every season feels unique in some way, shape or form, and
there have been just absolute viral successes from Coke Studio
that have. Been popular in both India and
Pakistan and in 2012 Coke Studio launched in India.
Do you know what was it called in 2012 when it was launched in
India? It wasn't called called Coke
Studio India. It wasn't called Coke Studio
India. OH, OK.
In 2012 it was just called Coke Studio I think.
Coke Studio at MTV. It was an MTV.
Oh, OK. It was an MTV thing.
OK. Yeah.
So in India it is called Coke Studio and MTV and then in 2023
it relaunched and the name is I just listened to Khalasim and I
don't see the credits. Well, OK, if you had noticed the
Khalasi, even if you watch the video, you'd see the background
very clearly, says Coke Studio Bharat Bharat.
OK. Yeah, that's the current trend
right now. Yeah, they also have a Coke
Studio Tamil version and that one is called Coke Studio Tamil.
OK, I have no segue into this, so I'm just going to ask the
question. X is an fictional character
published in the USA by magazine publisher St. and Smith, with
writing by writer Walter B Gibson.
Originally created to be a mysterious radio show narrator
and developed into a distinct literary character in 1931 by
Gibson himself, X has been adapted into other forms of
media, including American comic books, comic strips, serials,
video games, and feature films. The radio drama included
episodes voiced by Orson Welles, and when Bob Kane and Bill
Finger first developed Batman, they patterned the character
after Pulp Mystery men such as X.
Bill Finger actually later publicly acknowledged that my
first Batman script was a take off on an X story.
So which character am I talking about?
Who is X? So you mentioned Orson Welles,
He was part of some. The radio production of it, did
you mention? Yeah, the radio production.
So there have been a lot of adaptations of this particular
thing. There's been radio programs,
there has been comic strips, there have been comic books
which have been published at some point.
Also, I think the syndicated daily newspaper comic strip as
well. This has been published by
predominantly DC Comics, Dark Horse Comics, Dynamite
Entertainment. And what was the time frame?
One more time. So it branched off to become its
own character in 1931. OK, so this is a guess, kind of
Indiana a roundabout way, because I know some of the
inspiration behind mass superheroes comes from The Mask
of Zorro. Zorro is Zorro the character in
question? No, of course Zorro is not the
character in question. Yes, you are right though that
lot of, you know, mass superheroes and the archetype of
the Marx superhero comes a lot from Zorro.
But no, this is not Zorro. Basically.
See, when you look at Batman, Batman is a guy where he has no
superhuman abilities, right? That is the same for this
character in print and radio where he's an expert detective,
skilled marksman, is a master of disguise and stealth.
But in film and in some radio shows, he's been given certain
psychic abilities and low level superhuman strength as well.
OK, and another thing is common with Batman is that he basically
operates on fear, terrifying criminals in the name of
justice. OK, I'll give you another 2.
Gibson himself claimed that the inspiration for this particular
character was Bram Stoker's Dracula.
So Gibson is the creator of the character in question, the of
the character in question. As I mentioned, there have been
a lot of, I think around at least five feature films on this
character, and the last one was released in 1994 and was played
by Alec Baldwin. Alec Baldwin, 1990 Four In the
movie, he's given psychic powers and the ability to hypnotize
people into making them think. Basically he clouds people's
minds. I think is the term used in the
movie. That sounds like a lot of
superheroes and super villains. I'm I'm not able to quite narrow
this down. Yeah, this is OK.
This is basically I asked this question because this is one of
my favorite characters, so it's a little indulgent question.
But at the same time, this characters inspired a lot and
has been referenced quite a lot in other shows and TV's, but not
many people know of them despite its rich history.
Interesting. You may have heard of his
tagline, or at least the tagline originated during the radio
show, but it's also become part of the character.
Now who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?
Wow. This is from a comic book
character that sounded and I've heard it obviously before I
would have assumed it's from some classic literature, but
from 20th century comic. Oh, that's pretty cool.
Yeah. At the end of the episode,
especially for the radio dramas, they also use the phrase the
weed of crime bears bitter fruit.
Crime does not play pay. Sorry, Crime does not play.
Crime does not pay. The X knows.
Crime does not play would be very offensive to the Joker.
His whole premise of crime is to play with and toy with his
opponents. OK, but coming back to the
question I'm I'm completely blank here.
I do know fair bit of my Marvel and DC superheroes, but I can't
think of anybody who's served as an inspiration for Batman.
So yeah, I don't know. OK.
So then I'll just tell you the answer.
The answer is the shadow. Have you heard of the Shadow?
Seen it? And I mean literally my own.
No, fair enough, Fair enough. No, this is, this is one of my
kind of favorite characters. But I think a lot of that was
influenced by the fact that I saw the movie when I was quite
young. The Shadow and it left an
impression doesn't stand up now, but I think again it's a 90s
movie and when you watch it as a kid obviously it'll seem better.
But the the character itself is quite fascinating.
I I mentioned 1994 was the last time we had a movie from this
character. But Sam Raimi, for a long time
was attached to create a feature film on this.
But then I think that dropped off at some point.
And you've heard of author James Patterson, right?
Yeah. James Patterson has, I think,
restarted novelizations of this character, literary adaptations
of this character as well from the 1930s, and he directly
inspired Batman. Lot of Batman's characteristics
come from him. He's like a socialite kind of
dilatombed rich person in like broad daylight.
And when night comes, he turns into the shadow.
But unlike Batman, he does use guns.
But then Fairpoint Batman, in his first appearances, did use
guns. Batman, in his more recent
appearances, also has used guns. Yeah, I don't think people
consider that to be a true Batman.
Let's say it's a multiverse Batman.
Listen. If anything, if American
standard that to go by everybody should have guns.
So why not Bruce Mayne as well? No, I I really enjoyed Batflex
you know performance as Batman. It was, it was good.
It brought that kind of Frank Miller resk, you know feel to
the movie. But overall, the movie was not
good. I I would agree with you
entirely except that the fight sequence where he is using
lethal force in that movie. Oh yeah, the warehouse clearing
the. Warehouse at warehouse,
absolutely. The Bruiser, he's the Bruiser in
that you can. He literally just throws people
around it. I mean like that's what you get
from the the comics, right? I don't think anybody's shown
that right. The whistle feeling of seeing
somebody's skull crack captured better than that Batman film
where he just throws a crate onto this random and it is, it
is. In the most violent way.
It is very cathartic. It is just, wow, what was that
scene? All right, so that's a great
question. And thank you for introducing me
to a whole new world of superheroes, I guess, or or
fictional characters, which I had not known before.
I'm going to go check out The Shadow Crime Doesn't Play.
We should make them do T-shirt. Where crime doesn't play OK.
So, Speaking of an unknown origin for something commonly
known, or that's a terrible segue.
Do you know why? When I come to the question, did
you? Were you an avid user of Windows
XP? Yes, reasonably.
Which Windows have you used and which ones have you not used?
OK, so I have technically used Windows 3.1959898 SE 2000 XP
then. This time.
Got it. Got it, got it.
Yes, all of them. I've used all of them, but I'm
not an expert in any of them and I've forgotten a lot of those
things. So that's my C by A before you
ask the question. I'm actually surprised that we
have used 3.1 as well. OK, but the question here here
concerns Windows XP, and this is an anecdote, but it has been
shared on reliable sources. I'm going to use it as a source
for my question If the anecdote comes from somebody who used to
work as a product support person for Windows XP.
Now there was something which was relevant in pop culture back
when Windows XP was popular and that particular.
Pop culture artefactor item would cause Windows XP computers
to crash OK. For now I'm just going to leave
you at that. Do you want to take a while?
Guess at what? I'm not even asking for
specifics here. What kind of pop culture
artefactor item was making the laptops crash?
Oh, is it something related to the Internet?
As in when they were trying to load a particular website or
look at something particularly. You would think that's a great
guess, but no, it's not. Not not OK OK Were they trying
to watch the Lord of the Rings DVD which was like or the ripped
version of The Lord of the Rings which was like 4 hours long and
Windows XP was like mercy, mercy and then just.
Crashed. Also fantastic guess, but no,
not quite close. Closer, but not quite close.
OK, so we've moved from. Moving from the Internet to us
for culture and entertainment, you're you're getting there.
OK, so wait, is this somebody trying to download songs through
Line Wire? And then viruses corrupt the
entire thing and Windows just says mercy and crashes.
No, not really. Not really.
OK. So let me now at this point give
you a hint. OK.
The person in question is Janet Jackson.
And have you heard Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation?
Yes, I have heard Rhythm Nation, but.
So then let's move on to the next part of the question.
Why would Rhythm Nation make the Windows XP laptops crash?
Wow, Rhythm Nation made laptops crash.
Is it the size of the MP3 file? No.
OK, this is weird. What we realized was not only
would my laptop if I was playing Rhythm Nation Crash.
It might also crash the laptop of the person sitting right next
to me. Wait, what?
How is that possible? OK is it like one of those
things where you could in the past use telephone signals?
You could mimic sounds and make telephone signals and get things
done through the Internet when it was still dial up.
So is it something like that where the beats of Rhythm Nation
somehow created a a shutdown command or something?
No, no, no. Oh dude, I have no clue but I am
fascinated by now. OK, so this was discovered by
one of the major computer manufacturers as you would know,
as most people would know that Microsoft, at least back in the
day was not manufacturing laptops on a large enough scale
and most of Windows XP and the different Windows platforms are
used on other PCs. So.
One of the major computer manufacturers and have not been
able to find which one, but one of them discovered at some point
in the 2000s that this particular song would make not
just the laptop playing it crash, but even the laptop
nearby. This had something to do with
the hardware used, especially in the older laptops.
So it won't happen anymore. But it used to happen in the
older laptops and hardware is a good way to think about it.
The hardware In older laptops which you would not find that
kind of hardware. You would not find newer
laptops. See, I could guess that maybe
the song for some reason caused something to overheat and shut
down, but then why would it cause the laptop nearby to do
the same thing? Is it the vibration from the
laptop speakers or something? Oh, you are.
You're just just circling the answer.
Circling around the answer oh God, vibration.
This it caused the, I don't know, the processor get de
seated from it, but I don't know.
I have no clue when this is. This is as far as I go.
You are aware that laptops these days, computers these days do
not use the old classic hard drive anymore?
Yeah, we use solid, safe drives, most of them, right?
Lovely. So you are aware of that.
So older hard drives used to actually have a spinning disk,
yes. And we're talking about a song.
Can you make that connect? For me?
Because they're so close, I just wanted to get it.
It'll be playing it off the hard disk, right?
And the hard disk spins at a predetermined speed and they'll
have a a predetermined speed. Perfect.
OK, so I'll give it to you at
this point, because Rhythm Nation contained one of the
natural resonant frequencies on laptops with 5400, I was one of
the few songs that does have it. So if I was playing it on my
laptop, not only would my own laptop crash, if your laptop
that makes mine also had a similar hard drive, your laptop
would also crash. Imagine that as like you know
one of the. Not points in a Mission
Impossible film like or James Bond film.
Stop. Janet Jackson.
Yeah, villain has decided that they're going to destroy the
world, bring down Wall Street and the US government and the
British government by playing Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation.
And interestingly enough, eventually the way to fix this
problem was to add a filter to the speakers so that they would
eliminate that particular frequency.
So it would not play that specific frequency.
This reminds me of that thing where an army crosses a bridge
and because they are stepping in a tune with the same resonant
frequency the bridge, the bridge collapses.
This this I believe was like 7th standard physics when you
learned it. And then yeah, well, this would
be an update to 7th standard physics.
Janet Jackson, Rhythm Nation. Nice, nice.
OK, I'm going to give you a list of names and you have to tell me
what is common among them. It's a non exhaustive list, but
I'll give you a list of names. Constantine the Second, John the
8th, Gregory the 6th, Sylvester the 4th, Innocent the third,
Nicholas the 5th, Clement the 7th and Felix the 5th.
Latin origin names and numbers, I'm gonna guess.
Does it have anything to do with the popes?
Of course. That is what the answer I knew
you would give, but they are not popes.
You're very close, but they're not popes.
So if you were, say, looking at the Judeo-christian religion,
especially the Catholic religion, and if I told you that
these were not Popes, what would your opposite answer be?
The opposite of popes, Judeo-christian religions and
not. Popes.
No, no. Think of think of the Catholic
religion in general, not just Judeo.
Christian Catholics in general. Interesting Catholic.
Specifically, is it the person who plays the devil's advocate
in the No, No, they're not. They're not the place that they
basically the title is the devil's Advocate.
So they don't play? No, but so no, these are not
those. You're closer with popes, but
not close at all at the same time.
Like I've given you the clue, the opposite.
Think the opposite. Think the opposite of Pope
exactly. Which is basically the head of
the Roman Catholic Church. Yeah.
I'm trying to think, what is the opposite, right, The foot of the
Roman Catholic Church? No, no, no, no.
You're you're thinking too much. You're thinking too much.
Very simple question. What is the opposite of a Pope?
My clue to you would be, say for example, in the Bible Christ is
the Savior, the Redeemer. OK.
Who's the opposite on that side? Antichrist.
I love how you do hand hold me into that answer.
And so who would be the opposite of the Pope?
The. Anti Pope, Yes.
So these people all I've mentioned, they're all anti
popes in Latin. Anti Papa.
So these are all people who claim to be the Bishop of Rome
and the leader of the Catholic Church in opposition to the
legitimately elected Pope. So what happens is, due to many
political and religious reasons, there may be two factions, or
maybe somebody propped up by the Holy Roman Empire as an
antipope. OK, so these are all people who
were antipopes. OK, so between especially the
3rd and 5th, 15th centuries, antipopes were supported by
factions within the church itself and other secular rulers.
Interesting. I would suggest everybody
listening. As I mentioned last week, I had
recommended this podcast called Noble Blood.
If you want to listen to a hilarious Antipope about a
hilarious antipope, you can listen to the episode called The
Thrift Shop Pope, which talks about Pope Michael the First.
It is a story you would have to hear to believe Oh.
Wow, that is pretty cool. I'll check out the episode that
sounds great. So because you were inspired by
an important podcast episode that you loved, I'm going to use
another podcast episode that I recently heard and I thought was
fantastic. And I'm going to use that as an
inspiration for this question. And I'll tell you at the end of
the question what podcast and which episode it is.
The question is, there is a song X that has dubious origins.
We're not quite sure where it originated from, which is rare
for songs. Usually you know exactly where a
song comes from, and this is a modern pop song, so it isn't
even like a. A random old ancient song that
people would not know about. It's a modern song, yet people
do not know exactly who came up with it.
Tell me what song X is and here are the potential origin stories
for XA Trinidadian. Artist Anslam Douglas claimed
that the song quote is a man bashing song.
Here it helps to understand the fact that one of the most iconic
lines from the song which people might not associate with man
bashing. Actually is a term that is used
to describe men and how badly they might behave towards women
sometimes. OK, so this is origin #1.
The other origin stories are at least The second one is that it
was created by 20 Fingers and Gillette in 1995 and it had
actually been inspired by something which was created even
earlier in 1992 by the rap duo Miami Boom Productions out of
Jacksonville, FL. This.
It was actually inspired by 1987 song Pump Up the Party by
Songwriter and produces TVB, which is released under the
pseudonym Hassan and included the iconic lyrics which became
the name of X eventually. So Pump Up the Party was a 1987
song. It inspired a 1992 rap duo which
eventually became a 1995 song. And all of these songs have
something in common, which is the potential second origin
story for X. Now the third and the last I'm
going to tell you, has got to do with the high school football
game mascot. And whenever this football team
would be performing, the supporters would be chanting
something and that also became a potential origin for X and how
it might have inspired the musician to compose X.
So here we have three different origin stories one has to do
with it being actually a metaphor for.
Man bashing and and how men behave badly towards women So
feminist kind of a song. The 2nd is actually based off a
Pump of the party which is a popular enough song in 1987 and
it was resampled and reused eventually and it became
overtime. It evolved into this song and
the third one is a chant that supporters of a certain high
school team would say every time the mascot came out.
And what is the song in question?
X? OK, to say that I am lost would
be an understatement. It's more like being at Point
Nemo with no ships around. I'm at the most isolated place
on Earth right now. I have no clue which song this
could be. You have heard this song, you
have probably sang the song and I can imagine most people around
you have heard and sang the song like it.
Is that common a song? OK, the man bashing thing is not
going to give me anything because I unless I know the
term, I don't think I'll be able to get it.
A song with this kind of pedigree from the 80s and it
became the 90s. Wait, is it tub thumping
Chumbawamba or something there? No, because I was thinking when
you said high school football, maybe I'm like, I get knocked
down, but no, it released in 90s, you're saying, right?
OK, actually the official song that is probably the most famous
version of the song came out on 26th July 2000, 2000.
Yeah, but it has had iterations or some potential earlier
version in the preceding decades as well.
Wow, When you started off with your first clue, I thought maybe
no woman, no cry or the rain or sunshine, something like that.
But no, dude, you'll have to give me some other clue.
I am lost beyond description. You said a very interesting
word, but I will use that as a clue later.
Let me actually focus on the third origin story here and let
me give you a bit more context. So John Michael Davis from
Michigan actually contacted the podcast producer that I actually
found this piece of trivia on and told him that his hometown
is sometimes referred to as the Dash Patch.
Dash is again a very specific word that is used as a lyric in
X and also in the title of X, the dash patch and also dash
also refers to by the way the phrase you would use for
misbehaved men, so it connects back to first origin story.
So anyways, the the dash patch and the crowd at the high school
football games frequently chanted X which or a version of
X which became the title eventually of the song.
This was in the state championship run in 1990, so
does that lead you a little bit closer?
It is a dash patch which inspired the slogan which became
the title X Dash also goes back to the first origin story and is
a word that would be used to describe a misbehaved man.
And again, this is not a very unknown or uncommon word.
It's a very common word that would be used to describe a man
who is misbehaving towards women. 2000 song.
This isn't a Santana song or something, right?
Is it? No.
Oh God. I'm just, I'm not able to parse
these close together. Nothing.
Zip. Zilch.
Nara, you have succeeded in creating a question which is
absolutely stampy now that you've not done it before.
But this one, I think is by far the I have no thoughts.
My brain is just like crickets right now.
They're just crickets on noises of crickets right now.
OK, so let me tell you the word that you said that that was very
curious choice that you used just now.
You said this pedigree of song. Wait, who let the dogs out?
Who Let the Dogs Out? Is actually the song Yes, you're
right. Oh my God, yes.
Now it makes more sense. Dogs.
Men who misbehave. Dogs.
Yes, Baha, Man who let the dogs out?
Who? Who?
Exactly.
And the plant would be in the high school games would be, oh,
let the dogs out. So let the dogs out.
It went over there because they were referring to the fact that
this was the dog patch was actually what was used for the
hometown as well. And so the high school
supporters would say, oh, let the dogs out.
That became one of the potential sources for Who let the dogs
Out. The other sample that I was
talking about from the 1987 song which was.
Pump up the party. The lyric over there was Who's
rocking this dog's house and Miami boom heard this.
They thought that was a really cool lyric and they decided to
sort of twist it, turn it, and it became who let the dogs out.
So who's rocking this Dog's House became Who let the dogs
out? And clearly they had winner at
their hands. Now the 2000 versions that I
spoke about 226 July 2000, the song that was released and top
multiple charts. It was by a band called Bahaman,
and it's just one of the most popular songs.
It has pretty much lasted more than two decades, and most
people would be hard pressed to claim that they have never heard
this song before. I think some people of
Generation Alpha and Generation Gen.
Z might say that because I don't hear it as much as I used to.
Perhaps, perhaps, but I would still say it.
As far as pop songs go, it is one of the songs which has.
Stood the test of time, at least for a while now.
And I don't mean to say that it is great or anything, because
that can be a controversial opinion.
In fact, there was a Rolling Stone poll about the most
annoying songs ever, and I think Who Let the Dogs Out?
Came in at #3, so I'm not claiming that it is high art.
No, it's not. It it does, it does stick with
you. It has a quality that sticks
with you. This is the origin story for who
let the dogs out? And rather I would have to say
the. Controversial or not quite
settled origin story for Who Let the Dogs Out?
And the podcast in question, and you have to listen to it because
I think I did only a half decent job at recounting the origins
for the song is from a very great podcast show 99% Invisible
99 Pi as it's also called amongst its fans.
And the episode in question is episode 389 Whoms Amongst Us.
Let the Dogs Out Again. OK, I really like the title.
If the title is anything to go by, the episode is phenomenal as
well. You absolutely every listener of
this show, Once you're done with this episode, please go check
out 99 Pi and go listen to this specific episode because they do
a tremendous job of explaining all these potential origins and
how they all have some level of truth to it.
So nobody's really lying over here.
All of them are kind of on the mark.
But yeah, OK now, since you gave me the origin story of a song, I
am going to the origin of a particular name, a name again,
which I am sure that you have heard and your friends have
heard and everybody has heard. Even if they've not directly
interacted with it, they will have at least seen it.
The origin of this name X is unknown, but there are many
hypothesis, one of which in that it's from a French word meaning
gold. Another is that it's from a
Greek word meaning nice or attractive.
Others believe that the name was chosen because the name was
short and easy to pronounce. Still another theory by Stella
Parks is that the name derives from the Latin name of a genus
of the Laurel family. She observed that the original
design of X includes a Laurel wreath.
What is X? Laurel wreath makes me think of
when films win awards, they have that Laurel wreath surrounding.
Yes. The thing is, you have to
remember that my question I specifically mentions that the
original design of X included or Laurel wreath.
It no longer does. Sorry, and what is the context
of this? Where would I have seen or heard
or whatever consumed of this? Let's keep that for later in our
pocket. OK.
All right. All right.
Because that's going to be my first clue.
So let's see if you can get anything from this.
If not, I will tell you who Stella Parks is.
You also said gold, and I'm trying to think Oro.
Oh, is it? Is it Oreo?
Yes. My clue was going to be that
Stella Parks is a food writer. Oh, lovely question.
I love that so much. I just got it because of the
gold. Yes, the French word or meaning
gold, which comes from the Latin or amorous.
The Greek word Oreo means nice or attractive.
Stella Parks, the food writer. Her theory is that the name
derives from the Latin Oreo Daphne, which is a genus of the
Laurel family. Now her theory comes because the
original design of the Oreo cookie, which you can see
online, had a Laurel wreath. And there are posters and you
can see copies of ads of the original ads from the National
Biscuit Company, which we now know as Nabisco, in which the
audio sandwich is advertised. And you can see the audio
biscuit with audio written in the center and a Laurel wreath
all around it. So these are some of the
theories on how we got the name Oreo.
And great crack, by the way, My clue is going to be Stella
Passes the Food Writer and think of the Latin name for gold.
So here I got to confess that I did not think of Latin auras and
Aurum. Now that you say it, of course I
should have thought of that. Instead I was thinking of the
Spanish Oro, and that's why Oro was very close to Oreo.
And that's how I got it. No, fair enough.
All of those have Latin origins. So anyway, all of that is
perfectly fine. So.
Oreo, maybe a lot of people don't know this, but is an
imitation or was well, you. Somebody might call it even a
rip off of the original, which is hydrox.
There's a biscuit called Hydrox, which was the original, which
was very similar to what an Oreo is.
Oreo just surpassed it. It came in as a competitor.
It would be like Pepsi came on and Coke just disappeared from
the market. That's the level of usurping of
the title that Oreo managed to do with Hydrox.
So Hydrox is the original. I think Netflix and Blockbuster
is a better analogy here. Perhaps, but I think Netflix
also has the advantage of pivoting at some point and doing
something. Which Blockbuster did not do.
They tried. Actually.
There's a fun little story there as well, where Blockbuster also
was not a stupid company. They were seeing the trends and
patterns, but just the fact that they were not able to pivot as
easily. Netflix was a more agile
company. Yeah, Netflix also has some
fascinating stories behind it. I remember at some point they
renamed their DVD mailing service and there was a huge
backlash from, I don't know why they were fans of the mailing
service. Again, for our listeners, there
is a podcast called as Business Wars and there is a series of
episodes, a limited series of episodes called Netflix versus
Blockbuster. Fascinating story.
I think that's where I heard the results.
So we have recommended this podcast in the past and I
continue to recommend it. It's a great, great show.
It's a great podcast. It's a great podcast.
I think we have run out of time for today.
Before we leave Aditya, do you have a question for our audience
for next week? Of course I do, Vineet.
How could I not have a question for her?
Lovely audience members Stella Parks actually was mistaken that
Oreo got its name because of Because There Is.
We're going to get, we're so going to get sued for this.
The original design? No, no.
I, Stella Parks would appreciate this answer too.
Shout out to Stella Parks and then please go listen to our
podcast as well. So I believe Oreo has its origin
in India actually. And how and why and which Indian
language this time I'll decide next week, so please stick
around for that. Yeah, definitely Come back for
that. Yes, come back for that.
I had asked an audience question at the beginning of the episode.
The question was, X is an honorific bestowed by the State
of Israel, commemorated by a medal.
Those recognized with this honorific are honored in a
section of Yad Vashem, Israel's official memorial to the victims
of the Holocaust. My question was, what is X?
What is the honorific itself, and what is the reason it's
conferred? Why is it conferred?
Any guesses, Aditya? Is it the same thing that Oscar
Schindler also got? Is it the?
Yes, yes. I don't remember the name or I
mean I'm not able to recall it right now.
It is the honorific that is given to any non Jewish person
who helped the exactly. So you've got it.
The honorific is Righteous Among the Nations, correct?
Yes. That's it.
It's called Righteous Among the Nations.
It's an honorific used by the State of Israel to describe non
Jews who risked their lives during the Holocaust to save
Jews from extermination by the Nazis.
Right. And I think watching Schindler's
List at the end when the title card comes, I think that's where
I first saw that. And that was a pretty cool
little piece of trivia. I really, really like that as an
ending for a film, by the way. What a beautiful ending where
they all go pay their respects at the the grave of Schindler.
Oscar Schindler There is a a British official who during
World War 2 helped smuggle out a lot of Jewish babies during the
occupation of France. I don't remember exactly where
it was from. Somewhere in Europe he helped a
lot of babies escape the Nazis. What he did was almost
completely unknown. And then during the 1990s, the
BBC organized a program where they kind of honored him, where
they brought him into this auditorium and they sat him.
In the floor, Yes. And they asked him about what
he'd done, and they told people about what he'd done.
And there was one person sitting next to him who was one of the
babies that he had rescued. And they talked about it.
And then the end, the anchor says, Is there anybody else here
who was saved by this man's actions?
And every single person in the auditorium stands up.
My God, that moment gave me chills.
I think there's a movie coming up on this person.
I just cannot remember his name right now.
Apologies. We'll include it in the Fact
Check. But yeah, this is definitely one
of those moments. And again, before we leave,
what's your podcast or pop culture recommendation for the
week? I already made a podcast
recommendation just to repeat it one more time.
Please go check out episode 389 from 9 to 9% Invisible 99 Pi.
And the name of that episode is whomst amongst us Let the dogs
out again. It is the origin story or origin
stories of who let the dogs out and where it potentially could
have come from. Fantastic episode.
And once you're done with that, you could also go watch this
film that I recently watched. It's in the theaters here.
I have to admit, I'm I'm a sentimental fool sometimes even
the most basic of films. It gives me a nice little
cathartic cry. And I had that experience very
recently. Self shared with the listeners.
12th Fail 12th Fail is a movie right now out in theaters.
It stars Vikram Massey. It is very simple, very
beautiful, and I believe inspired by a true story.
It's a film that hits the right spot.
So yeah, I watched it very recently and I would recommend
people to go check it out. Great.
I have, apart from the podcast that I've already recommended in
this episode as I can, Noble Blood which I recommended last
week, and business was which both Aditya and I have
recommended in the past. I'm going to recommend a
completely different podcast from what we usually listen to
or what we usually talk about or recommend.
The podcast is called Jackie the Ripper.
It is one of the weirdest audio dramas I have ever heard.
I'm not saying it's weird in a sense.
It's got some excellent voice acting, very good audio design,
It's very well produced. Three seasons of Jackie the
Ripper and I'll just give you a little tease about what it's
about. It is a fictional audio drama
about a gender swapped Jack the Ripper story set in modern day
White Chapel and presented as a comedy.
What? The comedy part really threw a
curveball. OK, yeah, yeah.
I mean, like just to give you it's like airplane like comedy.
So you have, I think 1 character says I was once even hit by a
sniper and they're like, what? Yeah, slap me right across the
face. So that kind of comedy, three
seasons of it, it does drag on. It's not perfect.
It does drag on a little bit in places.
There are a little too many rants from one of the main
characters, but it is very well done.
OK, great. I love that, and that's all for
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musical sting. See you guys next week.
And here's the Fact Check for the episode.
The word IO was included in the OED in 2016. 19th century
Englishman coined the phrase Italian of the East when
describing Telugu. In July 2011, Netflix announced
that it would divide its streaming and DVD video
services, offering DVD rentals under the brand name Quickster.
Less than one month after the change was implemented, Netflix
backpedaled its plans after intense backlash from users.
And losing an estimated 1,000,000 subscribers.
Sir Nicholas George Winton was a British stockbroker and
humanitarian who helped to rescue Jewish children who were
at risk of being murdered by Nazi Germany during the
Holocaust. The Wider World found out about
his work in February 1988 during an episode of the BBC television
program That's Life. When he was invited as a member
of the audience, the host of the program introduced Winton to
children he had helped rescue. Later, in a follow up, the host
asked whether anybody in the audience was among the children
who owed their lives to Winton, and if so, to stand up.
More than two dozen people surrounding Winton rose and
applauded. The host then asked if anybody
present was the child or grandchild of one of the
children Winton saved. And the rest of the audience
stood. The 2023 biopic One Life is
based on his life, and that's all for the Fact Check.