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Episode #62 of Your Favorite Quizzing and Trivia podcast
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are back for another round of quizzing?
Let's start off today's episode with the audience question,
which I will answer at the end of today's episode.
So X is the dish that is invented in Canada by a Greek
immigrant who was inspired by Chinese food to put a South
American ingredient on an Italian dish that is now most
popular in Australia. Let me repeat that for you.
This dish was invented in Canada by a Greek immigrant who was
inspired by Chinese food to put a South American ingredient on
an Italian dish that is now most popular in Australia.
However, this is not named after any of these places.
What dish am I talking about? I will reveal the answer at the
end of today's episode. Now, as to the question that
Aditya had asked last week, let me hand over the baton to
Aditya. Beneath I asked last week which
movie has been named after food accidentally.
Just like Dabangg, the Bollywood hit was somehow also the name
for Korean coffee and tea shops. So here's the answer for this
week. We have a few answers.
This week we of course had Anda, Apna.
Apna which is also the name of a restaurant so if you like eggs
your own way, you get. And obviously there is grill
say. Like if you like a food grill
and you want it directly from the grill you say grill say of
course Aja naturally like if you like your nachos there is Kane,
bido, Yarrow. Plus, of course you want to eat,
then you want to eat. And I believe my favorite out of
all of them is bake up Sid. Because why not?
In this case, I do have to credit a certain individual
sayantan Guha who came up with these food based funds.
I found these online so I can't take credit for these today.
They're all Santan Guha's recipe for disaster, I guess.
OK, OK, fair enough. Let's move on to the serious
portion of today's cuisine, because I frankly don't have
anything to say after listening to those puns.
Aditya, why don't you start us off this week?
All right, do you know what the repository for germinal choice
is all about? The repository for germinal
choice. Is that the question or is it
the kind of prelude to the question?
Let's call it a prelude. OK, I I I don't know what it is,
I don't know what it is, but I would guess it would have
something to do with seed banks preserving biodiversity when it
comes to seeds or something like that.
I love it when you make unintentional puns, Vineet.
And I'll tell you why. Because this is a sperm bank
that was operating in California from 1980 to 1999.
OK. What was special about it?
It it became popular, it got some level of notoriety, I
guess. What was special about it that
the founder of this sperm bank advertised as being unique about
the sperm bank. It was founded by this person
called Robert Clark Graham. OK, what was so unique about it?
OK, First off the top of my head, did he have like or did he
advertise that he had sperm samples from celebrities and top
scientists and people who are the doins of their field or
something like that? You are.
You are dangerously close to the answer, so I'm just going to
push in the right direction. Yes, it is about the specificity
from a certain group of people who are allowed to donate to
this bank, I guess. OK, are these people who don't
want to have children of their own, but don't want to waste
their reproductive potential and also donating?
No. And that would be tough to
enforce, I imagine. But in any case, you were much
closer with your previous guests.
OK, with the celebrity thing. Yes, you also mentioned
something else. Sports people, people who are
scientists or high IQ people. Oh, very close, very very close.
So I'll I'll give you maybe a couple of more shots at this.
OK, wait, so these are so these are not men's members in
particular. That's not the answer.
We these are not like people who are members of the.
IQ societies. OK, so not in particular maybe
high IQ societies in general like Prometheus and whatnot?
Not high IQ societies, no. Let's say these are people who
have a certain achievement. Accolade or Nobel Prize winners?
You're right, yes, this is a sperm bank that was intended to
be only for Nobel Prize winners, recipients of the Nobel Prize.
Except that non Nobel non Nobelist also did donate, but it
was famous as the Nobel Prize sperm bank.
It was initially called the Hermann J Mueller Repository for
germinal choice, named after Hermann.
Joseph Mueller was a Nobel laureate from the 50s, I
believe. Turns out that even though
Robert Graham went around talking big game about how this
will be a high IQ sperm bank, it wasn't the case that there were
a lot of Nobel Prize winners who were attached to this.
Yeah, I was going to say that sounds a little SUS to use the
Gen. Z.
Terminology, SUS. Oh, it was very SUS because
Robert Graham was also a eugenist eugenicist, and there
were three people who were attached to it, two of whom
pulled out. No pun intended.
Pulled out once this place got Notriti, and only one known
Nobel Prize winner who was associated with it who did
donate once, apparently. So that that was the case.
The media made a huge furor of what this whole eugenicist sort
of, you know, went to this thing.
Do you know which TV show references this particular sperm
bank? Particular TV show.
In in its pilot episode. Oh wait, this is The Big Bang
Theory. They try to make money by going
to a sperm bank. It is The Big Bang Theory.
The first scene I believe is Leonard and Sheldon visiting
the, quote, UN quote, high IQ sperm bank.
Yeah, and they're also based in California and they intend to
donate specimens. And Sheldon later feels bad
because what if he can committed genetic fraud by donating sperm
that may not produce a genius offspring.
So yeah, that was how from 1980 to 1999, there was a quote, UN
quote, Nobel Prize sperm bank that was operating in
California. That's nice.
Great question.
I'm going to move on to something related to music, or
at least the Grammys. So X has been nominated for a
Grammy 9 times and has won three times.
He has won last in 2019 and was 94 years old and was the 3rd
oldest person to win such a Grammy.
He was a prolific author, spent more than 30 books about his
life, career and experiences, subjects ranging from
international affairs to a recollection of childhood
Christmases. So who are we talking about?
When was the last Grammy? 2019.
And he was 94 years old. He was 94 years old.
Also the author of multiple books you said.
Yes, more than 30 books. I can't think of anybody who
jumps to mind right now, so. OK, I will give you a clue which
may immediately get you the answer.
He led the effort to eradicate the Guinea worm parasite in
developing countries. He has often been stated as
saying that he hoped to live longer than the last Guinea worm
parasite, and it's a testament to his effort that in 2021 only
1414 cases of Guinea worm parasites were recorded as
compared to 3.5 million in 1986. So you can say he's been pretty
successful. I have vague feeling that this
is Jimmy Carter. You're right, it is President
Jimmy Carter. He's won three Grammys, all
spoken word Grammys, but 3 Grammys nonetheless 3.
Wow. OK, I remember this was an audio
book that he got the last one for.
That's what I remember. Yeah, yes.
My next group was going to be that he the position of power
that he held, he's often regarded by many as not having
been one of the best. And to be fair, he also lived
during the transition period when the world was moving
towards a much darker context. So he was president during the
embassy takeover in Iran. When more what we consider today
as modern day terrorism, Rose's head it wasn't a good time for
him. This was Jimmy Carter was just
before Bush Senior, right? No, Jimmy Carter was before
Reagan, if I'm not mistaken. All right, Reagan was.
So it'll be Carter, Reagan, Bush Senior, Clinton, Bush Junior or
West, then Obama, then Trump, then Biden, and then God knows
who's going to be next. That's a pretty cool question.
Interesting. I had no idea that he won a
Grammy three times. Yeah, threes.
Three times. Because when he first asked that
question, I was like, oh boy, I'm I'm going to struggle with
this because I'm very bad at music trivia.
But lovely. Speaking of America, I want to
know, do you know what over prints are?
Over prints, not specifically, no.
OK, so the idea of an overprint is an additional layer of text
or graphic added to the face of postage or revenue stamp or a
bank note or a ticket perhaps that's called an overprint.
So there'll be the standard format that any of these
officially issued pieces of paper or?
Yeah. Yeah.
No, I understand now. Yeah.
OK, great.
So that would be an overprint. Do you know why America issued
over prints on a bunch of dollar bills, including the $20 bill
with the name of a specific state on it.
With the name of a specific state.
Yeah. Was this during the American
Civil War? No.
OK, so it's not one of the Confederate states.
Did it happen when they changed a particular state's name?
Did this happen after the acquisition of Alaska?
Also no. OK, then you'll need to give.
I'll give you the name of the state, it is Hawaii.
OK, Hawaii became a state in the 50s I believe.
Slightly earlier, if I'm not wrong, I retract that Hawaii did
become a state post or Pearl Harbor.
It was part of the United States of America before that,
obviously, but it wasn't granted statehood then.
OK. Yes, TK, so then it.
Was it was 1959? 1959 I remember something about
it being in the 50s and then I'm like, OK, so fine.
So it's not. It is wasn't a state.
Can you give me a time frame as to when this happened?
That would be a very easy clue then.
So before I give you that I will give you something else.
The intention behind doing the over printing was to render the
note worthless. Was this because they were
afraid of a Japanese invasion and they didn't want the
Japanese to get US currency which they could use as a
foreign exchange and have more dollar bills in their hand?
You know you don't want your currency in the hands of.
Perfect. Yes, yes, you are absolutely
right. You got that very quickly.
The fear was that the Imperial Japanese Armed Forces might
invade Hawaii and capture a bunch of these banknotes and
unnecessarily contribute to the enemy's war effort, I guess.
So to make sure that these dollar notes were recognizable
immediately, the United States of America decided that they're
going to print Hawaii on top of them during World War 2.
And if they were caught, or if they were being used by the
enemy, you'd be immediately made aware that you can that they
should not be considered legal tender anymore.
So yeah, the Hawaii overprint note was a series of bank notes
issued during World War 2, and it was an emergency issue after
the attack on Pearl Harbour. So specifically, that's why I
didn't mention when it was, because I didn't give it to you
too easily, but beneath you cracked it nonetheless.
So, well done, well done. Yeah, so I've actually am in the
middle of watching a World War 2 series.
It's called Masters of the Air, which is a companion piece to
Band of Brothers in the Pacific. But this is specifically dealing
with bombers, B17 bombers flying out of England, bombing Germany
and Europe in advance, the invasion.
So I was watching that. So World War 2 is in the
forefront of my mind right now. Isn't it always?
It is your Roman Empire. OK, yes, I actually got that
reference. So Amy, let's go to sport.
Right. Let me give you a sport question
because I rarely ever ask a sport question, right?
So. Go for it.
This type of field goal was first tested at the collegiate
level in 1945 in a game between Columbia and Fordham, but it was
not kept as a rule, it was just a test.
There was another one game experiment in 1958 in a game
between Saint Francis and Siena. It was adopted across all
professional and collegiate conferences, leagues and
associations in phases all throughout the 1980s.
The use of this type of field goal has become more frequent in
the modern day, particularly from the mid 2015 onwards.
This increase in the past few years has been attributed to one
single player who's credited with revolutionizing the game by
inspiring teams to regularly employ this type of field goal
as part of their winning strategy.
What type of field goal are we talking about?
Field goal is an interesting choice of words.
I just want to clarify, are we talking about football?
No. By field field goal is the
official terminology that is used in the official books and
whatnot. However, we would know it by
slightly different names. OK.
And you haven't mentioned the sport yet.
I have specifically not mentioned the sport because of
that would be a dead giveaway. OK, interesting because I was
assuming it would be hockey or ice hockey or something along
those lines, but now I'm. Fair guess, but no.
Yeah, now I'm thinking it isn't a sport with goals in general,
so. Technically not true, but not
untrue either. That is unhelpful in the worst
possible way. It is true, but not true at the
same time. Keep that in mind.
No, don't I I will categorically refuse to keep that in mind
because it only confuses me further.
So I'm going to go with my assumption and my first guess is
not even the answer of the question, but rather the sport
itself. Is it cricket by any chance?
No, no, not cricket. OK.
In cricket, you can categorically say that there are
no types of goals, right? There are no field goals or any
kind of goals of that kind. This sport has a goal like
system. OK, All right.
So it does have something like you would know as goals.
OK, Because I was very, very curious if cricket has goals
too. OK.
No. Except for Hardik Pandya's goal
to win. Oh, look at us, we need we have
grown so much making cricket jokes now, asking sports
questions, making cricket do. Our listeners should be proud.
OK? A sport which has a goal like
feature. I don't know why Quidditch comes
to mind, but 1950. No, Quidditch does have goals
right. It does that.
Specifically, all the 1950s would be pushing it.
So until This is a fake history of Quidditch, Quidditch Through
the Ages. You never know.
I'm I'm going to assume it's not the case.
No, it's not. But then I like to stir the pot.
Gold like features. But I don't know.
I'm so confused. Basketball.
Close. Not actually close.
Yes, let me say it is basketball.
So unnecessary. We need OK, basketball and field
goal. Would it be a three pointer?
Yes, it is a three pointer. OK.
So we what we call as baskets or points, they're technically
supposed to be called field goals in the official
terminology. Interesting.
And so the, do you know the player?
So I had mentioned in the question that the increase in
the use of this particular type of field goal in the latter
years has been attributed to one particular player who is
credited with revolutionizing the game by inspiring teams to
regularly employ this type of field goal as a part of their
winning strategy. As in, don't just use this as an
opportunity, use this as a part of a winning strategy.
Do you know which player I'm talking about?
You know, I know this piece of trivia because I remember
hearing about this. Oh no, I'm it's even escaping me
where I heard about it. But yeah, the fact that three
pointers should be a big part of the game instead of just one
soft thing. Oh man, I'm not so good at the
basketball names also. But it's not.
I'll give you a clue about the player.
This player's name is the same as a dish with a sauce seasoned
with spices, mainly associated with South Asian cuisine.
South Asian A dish seasoned with sauce that is just every so
every dish in South Asia. Yeah, dish with the sauce
seasoned with spices mainly associated with South Asian
cuisine. What would you call such a dish?
Kobe Beef. Kobe.
Brian, I'm trying to think of what does an Asian.
Well, Kobe is not Asian. South Asian, but it's Asian.
No, the name just happens to be the same.
It's a it's like it's like a Dabangg association.
It's not intended to be that way.
OK, like if I if I told you there's like the name of one
particular, the name of a type of dish is the same across
India, Indonesia, Singapore, even Japan.
What name would you think of? Like the same name you'd see
here, there, everywhere that would.
Be oyster sauce, Gordon. No, no, I used to.
No, I used to serve in India. Oh, I was thinking first names.
Do you mean Steph Curry? Yes, it is.
Stephen Curry. Stephen Curry.
So Steph Curry is who's inspired this.
He's like a regular 3 point machine.
So like he's one of the few basketball players I know of.
So that should tell you how how famous he actually is.
I'm on first name basis. I call him Steph.
I don't even call him Stephen. You call Steph.
So this three pointer was not part of the original basketball
rules, right? It was first tested in 1945, but
not kept as a rule. Then they experimented on it
again in 1958. But at the time, there were
problems with defining how far across what line, because there
were different courses, different basketball courts with
different sizes where the length was different.
So it wasn't kept as a rule. And then throughout the 80s, it
was all standardized and made common across all leagues,
associations and conferences. And finally, it has become a
standard rule now and since 2015, since Steph Curry has
become this major player, it has also become a part of creating a
winning strategy during a game. Cool.
That's that's a fun question, All right.
I did not. Especially the field goal part.
I love that. OK, Speaking of goals in the
classic sense. Football.
Whichever takes me to football, which takes me to Brazil and we
have segue. My next question is from Brazil.
So the right to dash, just like there are Bill, Bill of Rights
for most countries, Brazil has a right to dash, which is
colloquially called the right to dash and is in the healthcare
system, is something that has become a sort of a cultural
export from Brazil or a cultural identity of Brazil, because they
do offer the right to dash. This is something that came to
be because of a guy called Ivo Pitan Guy.
In the late 1950s, Betangay, who is now known as the Pope of
Dash, convinced the president that the right was as basic as
any other health need. Can you tell me what the right
is that is pretty unique to Brazil?
I am going to give you a number of guesses because I have no
clue what this is. And when you sent in Brazil and
being a cultural export of Brazil or an export of Brazil, a
lot of things come to mind, right?
But what's really throwing me off is that they said it's part
of the healthcare thing. So the right to something is a
healthcare thing you're talking about?
Adjacent, I guess you could call it that.
Healthcare adjacent OK, first guess.
I have no expectation this will be right, but is it the right to
drink coffee? Oh, that's a fun guess, but no.
Because Brazil is one of the largest exporters of coffee in
the world. OK, second, knowing Brazil would
be the right to play football, I don't think that should be a
right. But still, like, what else are
you talking about? Brazil.
OK, it's not football. And again, I don't know, that's
not health adjacent. Unless you count injuries due to
football. Wow, the right to samba.
Oh man, I really wish that countries had the right to a
specific kind of dance. No.
OK, OK. I am lost.
Oh, wait, wait, wait. Is it peyote or one of those
hallucinogenic drugs that there are a lot of these Amazonian
tribes which do that. It's not peyote.
Peyote is Mexico. There's one specifically in
Brazil and South America. Ayahuasca.
Yeah, that's what it is. Is it?
Is it that? No, it's not ayahuasca either.
All right. So let me tell you a little bit
more about this. So let me give you more
descriptive details. In most of the countries,
including India and the United States and any other country, I
believe this particular part of the healthcare industry would
not be subsidized. Oh, is this plastic surgery?
That's right. It is plastic surgery.
So do you know what the right is?
The right to boob jobs that. Would be too specific.
OK, think more general. With the right to beauty, the
right to. Beauty is something that is,
wow, guaranteed to Brazilians. And this was because of the
efforts of this one specific guy who's considered the Pope of
plastic surgery. I hope and Guy and he argued the
right to beauty was as basic as any other health need.
He made the case that ugliness caused so much psychological
suffering in Brazil that the medical class could not turn
back on the humanitarian issue. In 1960, he opened the first
institute that offered plastic surgery to the poor.
And Brazil has a massive number of very qualified plastic
surgeons because there's a huge demand in the country.
It has become sort of a cultural exporter, definitely a cultural
identity. Like you mentioned, breast
enhancement surgeries are very common over there and other
plastic surgeries are also common enough and you would not
be paying out of your pocket. Insurance would cover it because
it is considered necessary and not merely aesthetic.
OK. No wonder you have so many good
looking Brazilian people. Do you want to take a guess as
to how many surgeries are subsidized by the government
every year? Oh, I would not be able to.
Let's say a few million. No, it's half a million.
It's half. A million.
Surgeries every year are subsidized by the government.
It is a strange world. It is the world we live in.
Yeah. And you cannot make this up.
If somebody put this in a movie, they, the critics would be like,
this is so unrealistic, this would never happen.
Like I guarantee if you do it, if you do it now, even with
Brazil having it, most people would say it's unrealistic until
you point out that this actually exists in a country like this.
All right. I mean, it hit me.
OK, so this is regarding something in something in
particular, something very specific.
OK, they created a special packing case which could
minimize vibration and ensure that it would never come into
contact with another surface. To increase security, the case
had to be small enough to be easily carried by two men, but
impossible to be carried by only one.
Moreover, the case had to be unsinkable in the event it had
to be thrown overboard into the sea.
They also had the French flag painted on it to show that it
was French property because they worried that without the
markings, maritime law concerning the salvage rights of
property retrieved outside territorial waters might allow
it to be wrenched from the possession of France after
reaching the destination. They also insisted on a bank
vault with an independent air conditioning system, and in the
case of a labor strike or loss of electricity, it would need to
be connected to a hospital or the Pentagon.
What was carried inside this case?
Did you give me a time frame for this?
No, that is next. That's my first clue.
See if you can get it without that.
Something from France going to the United States of America.
I'm assuming it's not the Statue of Liberty.
Or no, obviously yeah, no, because they said it is a case
which had to be carry, which can be carried easily by two people
but should not be carried by one or it would be impossible to be
carried by only one person. That's very interesting.
It could easily be carried by two, but cannot be.
Carried cannot have, yeah. Huh.
That is such a fun description because I can't think of a
single thing. Forget the other clues.
I can't think of a single object in the whole wide world that
would fit that description. Can easily be carried by two,
but cannot be carried. By one, the case we're talking
about, the case that is carrying.
The case is designed so that it can be carried easily by two
people, but cannot be carried by one.
That does not necessarily mean that the object inside would fit
that same description. OK, all right, all right.
That makes it slightly vaguer, I imagine, but it's bigger.
Even a word? No.
Yeah, I have absolutely no clue. Give me either the.
Time frame. I will give you a time frame.
The time frame is 1962. OK.
Not sure if that helps me. Was it some sort of an award or
or? Not an award.
OK, give me what? What space am I thinking of?
Am I thinking arts? Entertainment.
Sports. Politics.
Arts. Entertainment, yeah.
Is it some sort of movie movie memorabilia?
No, though 1.7 million people did queue up when it arrived and
was used. Not used, let's say displayed.
Oh, did the Mona Lisa come to the US?
Yes. So it is the packing case that
carried the Mona Lisa from France to the US and then back
to France. So they had displayed it in the
US between March of 1962 and from December of 1962 to March
of 1963, the French government lent it to the US to be
displayed in New York City and Washington DC.
In New York, an estimated 1.7 million people queued up so that
they could see the Mona Lisa for all of 20 seconds.
Each person was allowed 20 seconds to see it.
What I find really ironic about it is they had the French flag
painted on it to show to show that it was French property.
Yeah, you don't want that disputed.
What? What do the French have if not
the Mona Lisa? And I guess baguettes and miming
that you have Mona. Quasong, quasong.
Let's say quasong quasong. Quasong.
That's true. Though it is disputed whether it
is from France. Yeah, there was this thing.
I think people were saying it's also from Austria, yes.
Yeah. So then possibly that's not.
But then a French cuisine at least is from France.
We can definitely say that. Escargot snails from France,
Champagne from France. I have a friend who works in the
culinary space in food, and she has argued that food, French
food sucks. So her argument is that French
bakery goods are great. So anything that's baked but
everything that's considered the high branded hot.
Cuisine. Hot cuisine is actually quite
garbage. I I don't completely agree, but
I do see. Neither do I I think it's a
matter of your palate. If you're used to a Southeast
Asian, South Asian or East Asian palate, or even African palate,
it's very difficult to appreciate French food because
it can seem very bland. Yeah, I think they have few
ingredients and they make those ingredients shine.
They don't have as much of, I guess, variety in terms of
spices and all whatnot, but that's for another time.
That's one of the food episode, I imagine.
Yes, yes. OK, Vineet, Speaking of old
things. What old?
Now Mona Lisa is old. Come on.
Also sorry, before I asked my question, the whole 20 second
thing, I went to the Louvre and I stood near the queue.
I didn't get into the queue to view the Mona Lisa.
It seemed like the most ridiculous thing to queue up for
just because the queue is super long and you barely get any time
in front of it. And it's very small.
I've seen photographs of it, like in the context of the room,
it's very small. It's tiny and there are huge,
beautiful paintings in that museum.
Well, I guess it is. It is what it is.
All right. But Speaking of old things,
let's move to my last question and the second last question of
this episode. And here I have to warn you that
this question isn't technically a great trivia question, but it
is a phenomenal piece of trivia. So.
Bear with me if the question doesn't make a whole lot of
sense. OK.
What is common between the rings of Saturn?
OK. Polaris, The North Star.
OK. The Atlantic Ocean.
Wait, what? Wait for it.
Wait for the last one. Trees.
What? Wait, we're talking about the
rings of Saturn, the North Star, the Atlantic Ocean, and trees.
Not any specific tree, just all trees.
Trees. All trees.
What? I cannot even get a starting
point. Polaris.
The rings of Saturn. Wow.
Anything to do with Atlantis? Atlantic Ocean?
Atlantis. But then trees?
What do trees have to do with Atlantis?
Wow, this is just weird. And Polaris is OK Are we talking
about the star Polaris or the North Star?
Because the North Star keeps changing every few 10,000 years.
We're talking about the star Polaris.
The star Polaris. Wow.
What we call Dhruvtara, right? Yes.
Oh God, I have nothing. The Atlantic Ocean, The rings of
Saturn and trees. Wait, are these all things that
James Cameron changed in the second cut of Titanic?
Oh man, that is. No, technically that that that
may not be wrong. There must have been a tree
somewhere in the film. I'm guessing he might have added
it or removed it. The Polaris in the rings of
Saturn, when he changed the night sky, and he might have
also changed the special effects for the water.
I It's a right answer. You cannot say this is wrong.
I I will consider this the unofficial second answer to this
question for me. Yeah, but it isn't the answer I
was. Looking for OK, give me a clue
what should I be looking for? Is it etymology related?
Is it mythology related? Is it something else?
What is this It is? In the space of science, and
specifically let's say the animal and plant Kingdom, let's
be even more specific. It's one species.
A species is common to the rings of Saturn, Polaris, the Atlantic
Ocean, and. Well, it's not common to it, but
they all of these things relate to that species in a very
specific way. OK.
To be fair, these are not. I'm using the word species
rather non scientifically, so it's not.
I'm not sure if it's a specific species or.
Wait, are these something to do with dogs?
I'm spitballing here. Polaris dog?
No, That's a good guess. But no, it's not.
It's. Not no.
The serious serious is the dog star, not Polaris.
Yeah. OK, oh, pigeons or doves or
something which navigate. No, no.
All right, let me, let me give you specifically how they're
related to that species. I have tormented you long
enough, OK? All of these are younger than a
specific species. Oh, then in that case, I would
have to go with sharks. It is sharks.
These are all things in the universe younger than sharks, so
I'm I'm sure there will be a bunch of other other animal and
plant species also out there older than this bacteria.
Viruses I'm sure are much older, but in this case I was just
amazed by the idea. And I did know that sharks are
older than trees, just because trees came on land much later
and then sharks had been around for a while even that that
trivia might blow some people's minds.
It is a phenomenal piece of trivia Polaris, and I don't mean
Polaris became the North Star after that.
I mean, the star is younger than sharks.
The. Star has not been around for as
long as sharks have been around. That to me is freaking insane
because sharks have been around for 450 million years.
And Polaris? And they've changed relatively
very little, except for size. They've changed relatively
little. Insanity.
That is absolute insanity because a shark is a pretty, if
I guess a complex animal, complex being and and and to
think that that was around before, you know what else is in
the realm of of sharks as a species lifetime, I'll tell you.
So Saturn rings. I mentioned Ayanga.
A lot of exoplanets, Ayanga. There's this thing called the
boot void, which is the largest known void between galaxies,
which is 350 million light years.
So technically, light can travel across the entire boot void and
still not be as old as sharks. 3 million years.
Oh, here's my favorite piece of this.
All of this, right? So I mentioned the Atlantic
Ocean is probably younger, trees are younger, Saturn rings are
younger, and Polaris, a galactic orbit of the Sun, is only 200 to
225,000,000 years. So the Sun has gone around Milky
Way Galaxy twice in the time. Shark sharks have been a wow.
Sharks have taken two whole revolutions of the Milky Way
Galaxy. And just look at the comparison
between how long they have been alive.
Sharks have been alive compared to humans, like modern day
humans in our current aspect, what 40,050 thousand years?
I think. That's pushing it to the very
extreme, like when we're talking civilizations maybe around 7:00
or 10,000 years, but humans as hunter, hunter, gatherers maybe
about 50,000 years or so. You might push it to a few
100,000 if you look at our previous, you know, progenitors,
progenitor species. But it's very interesting
because the Homo erectus was around for 2,000,000 years.
So even the Homo erectus has been like almost 10 times longer
than than Homo sapiens have been around.
So it is, it is insane. But yeah, 200,000 years is the
maximum I believe to that Homo sapiens are estimated to be
around compared to 450 million years that is.
What is that number? You know, I I've read a couple
of these, you know, kind of mind your perception of time changes,
right? So Nintendo.
I was around when the Ottoman Empire existed.
Warner Brothers was around when the Ottoman Empire existed.
You could actually write a a historically accurate pastiche
of Sherlock Holmes going to Japan and buying trading game
cards of Nintendo. Yeah, that is true.
That is true. So there are more modern day
things also which are in the same realm Picasso was around
the time that Indira Gandhi was alive.
Like somehow that to me also doesn't make as much sense
because Picasso seems somehow much older, but he was around,
and if you go slightly longer, I think a common one that people
might have heard is Cleopatra is closer to us in history than she
was to the Pyramids of Giza. Yeah.
There is another one which blew my mind and this is much longer.
The T Rex is closer to us than the Stegosaurus was to the T
Rex. Yes, I've heard the same thing.
Yeah. Is insane.
Now it's something I had mentioned something similar last
episode, I believe last episode. The episode before last where
Claire Bloom and Charlie Chaplin.
If you took their careers together, they've spanned 3
centuries, 3 Gregorian centuries.
Another one, which again will blow your perception of time, is
that John Tyler was the 10th president of the United States.
OK, 10th president of the United States, which means he was born
when Washington was president and then he became president.
OK, John Tyler's grandson is still alive today.
So John Tyler, they had a son very late in life, around 75
something. His son again had a son who was
born very late in life. And the last time I read it was
in 2020. Harrison Ruffin Tyler was still
alive in 2020. He was 91 years old.
So he could say that his grandfather was born when
Washington was president. That's a that's a flex.
That is a flex. Yeah.
Wow, OK. But I generally the til moment
for the whole of last week has to be that sharks are.
Older than older than probably half the shit on earth.
Yeah, that is like before a single species had walked on
land or survived on land. Sharks had been roaming the seas
for a while. I think that's also part of why
we are so fascinated with sharks.
Sharks, they are. They are so very complex as
creatures that it it is. And also quite alien because you
don't see any other fish, because sharks are not fish, but
you don't see any other kind of aquatic or marine animal or
whatever you want to call them living being, which resembles
sharks. Like they have their own
identity and it's very separate from everything else.
Oh, and of course, Jaws. Yes, Jaws and Shark Week.
OK, let's move from sharks to the theatre.
There are two actors, let's call them X&Y, OK?
They're famous for playing the same character.
Both of them are famous for playing a character, and it's
the same character these two actors starred on the London
stage together in 2011 in a production of Frankenstein.
It was directed by Danny Boyle, and what was unique about this
play was that X&Y would alternate between playing Victor
Frankenstein and Frankenstein's monster.
So if you went on a Monday, you would see X playing Victor
Frankenstein and Y playing the monster, and the next day the
same play would be played with Y playing Frankenstein and X
playing the monster. So what ended up happening is
X&Y shared the Laurence Olivier Award and the Evening Standard
Theater Award for Best Actor and Leading Role for their
performance. I want you to tell me if you
know who these two are. Obviously I've left out a major
clue, which I will give if you don't know off the top of your
head who this might be. No, I do know that it is
Benedict Cumberbatch. I'm not sure who the other actor
is. OK, so then you know which same
character they've played, right? Probably Sherlock Holmes.
Yes. So it is Sherlock Holmes.
One of them is Benedict Cumberbatch.
Can you tell me who the second person was?
I have no idea who the second person was, no.
OK, would it help if I told you that this person also played
Sherlock Holmes on television? Oh, on television?
There's that American version of Sherlock Holmes also.
OK. But no, no, I have no idea.
Yeah. You've not seen OK, the show's
name is Elementary. Does that help?
Elementary. Yes.
No. I just know that there's a show
called Elementary. I have not watched it.
I had, oh. You've not watched it.
Oh, OK, OK. The actor, the one I'm talking
about, was once married to Angelina Jolie.
Last chance to get it. No, no, I have no clue as who.
And I remember his face and I can't record his name.
So it is Johnny Lee Miller and Benedict Cumberbatch.
They both played Sherlock Holmes on TV, one in Sherlock and the
other in Elementary, and they both start together in a stage
production of Frankenstein. And I think it's a brilliant
concept. I think it's a brilliant concept
to have the same like actors alternating between these two
roles. Because at the end, at the core
of the story, and this is my personal take on it, is that who
actually is the monster? Is it Frankenstein or is it the
creature that he created? Who's the monster?
So having actors alternate between those roles, kind of,
you know, drives on that thing. And also from a financial point
of view, obviously if you want to watch Frankenstein and you go
watch it once and you see Benedict Cumberbatch playing
Victor Frankenstein, you want to come back and see how Johnny Lee
Miller does it. No makes sense.
Makes sense. Smart choice.
From a financial viewpoint as well.
I just remember this piece of trivia because Benedict
Cumberbatch and this other guy playing both the roles.
Yeah, you're right. Like as a financial point of
view, and even if you're a fan of just one of those actors, you
want to watch that actor play the other role also.
So you want to come back and watch the show again.
So makes sense, yeah. So that was my last question and
the last question for this episode.
Aditya, what is your question for next week?
OK, so my question is, since you mentioned Frankenstein, I want
to ask you which two actors from the Indian film industry should
play the same character, same iconic character, if there was
ever an adaptation of that character to stage.
I don't know why, why or how I'm going to arrive at this answer,
but there will be an answer ready for you next week.
So which two actors would be perfect to play the same
character on the Indian film industry?
OK, I'm grateful I'm not the one coming up with that answer, but
moving on to my question. From the beginning of this
episode, our audience question how many of you have cracked
this? This dish was invented in Canada
by a Greek immigrant who was inspired by Chinese food to put
a South American ingredient on an Italian dish that has gone on
to be most popular in Australia. However, it's not named after
any of these places. What dish are we talking about?
Do you have any clue? That's a great question.
Is. Is it named after some other
place? Or is it not named after any
place at all? The name is the same as that of
a place, but it was not technically named after the
place. Oh, so the name is.
Is it like Hong Kong Noodle or something?
Similar, but as I mentioned, it's invented in Canada by a
Greek immigrant inspired by Chinese food to put a South
American ingredient on an Italian dish that became most
popular in Australia. South American ingredient on an
Italian dish became popular in Australia?
No, I have no clue. OK, this is the Hawaiian pizza.
So the how do I put this very divisive act of putting
pineapples on a pizza was first done by a Greek immigrant by the
name of Sam Panopoulos in Canada.
He was inspired by the complex interplay of sweet, sour, spicy
in Chinese food to put pineapples, which are
technically a South American origin, ingredient, on an
Italian dish, which is pizza. But now the place in the world
where it's most popular is Australia.
Wow, I had no clue that it's. What is funny is it was called
Hawaiian pizza, not because of the island of Hawaii, because
that was the name of the brand of canned pineapple that he had
in the restaurant. Oh, wow.
OK, that's pretty cool. Nice.
Yeah. It's not pineapple.
Didn't happen to me when you said South American ingredient,
but yeah. I know.
That's why I just love I took this out of a there was an
article, I think in the New York Times or one of the larger
newspapers where the journalist had written exactly this line
makes sense, but it's it's really divisive.
I saw this YouTube video of this guy going throughout the going
to multiple pizzerias in Napoli in Naples and asking them to put
pineapple on the pizza. Let's just say the Italians
weren't very on board with that particular request.
Is it the same guy who went around asking for ketchup when
he ordered pasta? Because I know there's a guy who
did that also. I think it's the same guy.
I think the same guy. OK, so what's your pop culture
recommendation for this week, Aditya?
I'm going to do YouTube channel for this week and because I was
reminded of this channel because we're talking about sharks and
the universe and things that are old and ancient and impressive,
and this would be PBS Eons. PBS Eons is a YouTube channel,
which is a very interesting channel.
They are simple. They don't do very complex
graphics as many other infotainment channels on YouTube
do. But this does have a thorough
scientific, I guess research backing it, or at least seems to
me. I'm not.
I'm not a scientist so I can't claim that it is thorough, but
seems to be pretty thorough. And they do tell great stories
in in 10 minute videos. So check it out.
And there are some very fun topics that they cover, right?
Right from dinosaurs to modern day humans and their histories.
Oh, that's great. My recommendation for this week
is related to my recommendation from a past episode.
So if you remember, I had mentioned Benjamin Stevenson's
book Everyone in My family Has Killed someone.
Yeah, so there's a sequel to that book, which the last
episode I mentioned that I'd bought and was in my reading
list called. Everyone on this train is a
Suspect. Let me tell you, it rocks.
The book is fantastic. It is truly fantastic.
And I would recommend it to everybody, Anybody who enjoys a
good comedy book or a good mystery.
Because it's a solid mystery. Because I believe that a good
mystery writer should be able to put all the clues in front of
the audience and then reveal the answer.
Many times what happens is there will be some odd clue or
something that is off screen or is not told about, and it's a
Deus Ex machina or some kind of thing that comes up in the end.
And they're like, oh, it is because of this that this person
was the killer. But no, here in the chapter,
right before the complete reveal, the author or the
narrator actually lists all the clues for you one more time.
Nice. OK.
It's a fantastic book. I would highly, highly recommend
it to everyone else and something that Aditya and I were
discussing earlier about how long humans have been, how long
Homo erectus was there before Homo sapiens took over and
things like that. I was reminded of a line from
ATV series that I saw recently. It's called The Three Body
Problem on Netflix, where during one particular episode, a
character I'm not going to spoil who basically asks them how long
did it take you from fire to the wheel?
From the wheel to the industrial revolution?
From the industrial revolution to the Information Age.
So it's like shortening periods of time.
So I was reminded of the same thing.
We walked erect for 2,000,000 years, then we became hunter
gatherers. Then we became an Agricultural
Society. Then we become civilizations.
And then the Iron Age, Stone Age.
And then finally Stone Age, Iron Age, the Bronze Age, the
medieval times. And now we have moved so quickly
from the information Age to what I'm now calling the Age of AI.
I wonder what our children will see.
As long as what they're listening to is this podcast,
I'm OK there. Nice plug.
I like it. So that's all for today's
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