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The rookie, The High Roller, The
Grease man, The basher, The eye 

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in the sky, The getaway, The 
bankroll, The inside man, The 

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detail man, The idea man, the 
getaway. 

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Connect and tell me the 
significance. 

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This is the audience question 
for today, the 129th episode of 

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Are You Quizzing Me? 
Your favorite quizzing and 

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trivia podcast show. 
Queue the music. 

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Welcome to our you quizzing 
meet. 

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I am Vineet Nair with my Co host
Aditya Kashyap. 

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This is a quizzing trivia 
podcast show. 

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Join us as we dive deep into 
history, science, pop culture 

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and so much more. 
Let's get quizzing. 

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Welcome back everyone to episode
129 of Are You Quizzing Me? 

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What you heard earlier was the 
audience question for today's 

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episode, which I will answer at 
the end of the episode. 

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Stay tuned and try to figure out
the answer by the end. 

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So Aditya, how are you doing? 
I am recovering, happy that I'm 

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recovering and feeling better. 
I am sorry for our listeners 

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that I am no longer tripping on 
painkillers and hence indulging 

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in rabbit holes, but never fear,
I feel like injuries are part 

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and parcel of life and this will
happen again and I'll be back on

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painkillers so rabbit hole is 
never too far away. 

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OK, Aditya, I have a few 
crackers questions today ready 

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for you. 
Shall I do the honors? 

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Please proceed. 
So this is a fantastic piece of 

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trivia which I found. 
An Irish geologist who spent 

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much of his career in India by 
the name of Henry Benedict 

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Medlicott co-authored one of the
earliest authoritative works on 

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Indian geology in the 19th 
century. 

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He introduced the term X to 
describe a distinctive fossil 

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rich geological belt in India 
known especially for its ancient

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coal bearing formations. 
The name X was taken from an 

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indigenous people who inhabit 
this region of central India. 

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Decades later, the same term 
became the linguistic and 

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scientific foundation for YA 
much larger geological idea that

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reshaped how scientists 
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The link between the two lies in
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Some of the earliest rock 
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were first studied within the 
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name X, particularly in areas 
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Telangana, Madhya Pradesh. 
I'm giving you a clue here 

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itself. 
I want you to identify X&Y and 

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tell me where does S S Rajamouli
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Oh interesting, Rajamouli's 
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from him or related to him has 
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which is the globe spanning and 
time spanning epic which is like

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Globetrotter, time Trotter or 
something. 

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Varanasi. 
The movie's name is Varanasi. 

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That's the one I think it 
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If I'm not wrong, it features 
the Antarctic Ross Ice Shelf. 

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It has some part of the is it 
Serengeti or some some the 

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Savannah Savannah grassland 
area. 

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It also features the battle in 
Ramayan but that would be Sri 

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Lanka that wouldn't be in 
central India. 

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I don't remember what are the 
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Going off of you mentioned 
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Deccan would be my first guess. 
Something to do Deccan? 

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But that's a given. 
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and Odisha, Telangana, Madhya 
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that's a given. 
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Deccan has anything to do with 
any of it. 

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No, the word Deccan does not 
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And you were very cold with all 
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You could have stopped me. 
You didn't have to let me 

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Globetrot. 
I could have, but I did not. 

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So now the clue that I'm going 
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technically are were actually 
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The names were the same, but 
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expanded a little bit by most 
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differentiate between X&Y 
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completely different things. 
X is a particular region, OK Y 

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is a kind of huge geological 
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Initially X was Y OK Even today,
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X&Y. 
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looking for is what is used by 
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idea, that particular location, 
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XY is a geological idea. 
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idea. 
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It's something that existed in 
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drift, I'm thinking India, the 
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the Asian plate. 
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OK, I wouldn't say very warm, 
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OK, tectonics, plate tectonics 
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India. 
X is a geographical region and Y

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is a concept or an idea or a 
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Not a theory, it's something 
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And X used to be Y. 
The names. 

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The names basically. 
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something to Y. 
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So the idea or Y came about 
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the region of X. 
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episode 129? 
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convoluted. 
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can give you this without kind 
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But let me just clarify again if
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or an area in India, OK? 
Why is something in the 

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geological past? 
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Why was originally named the 
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Stop repeating, I'll throw your 
answer right back at you. 

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You know what the answer to this
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X is a geographical area. 
Why is geographical concept X 

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used to be named by, but then to
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something. 
Oh my God. 

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OK fine. 
The Rajamouli somehow in 

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involved in all of this. 
Yes, I would suggest go through 

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the Rajamouli clue. 
That might make it easier 

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because there are certain things
I mentioned here which might 

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lead you to an answer. 
Baahubali, RRR and now Varanasi.

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Does it have anything to do with
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Or is it something to do with 
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Filmography. 
I wouldn't expect you to know 

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anything about his personal 
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It's obviously his filmography. 
I guarantee you've seen this 

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film and I've hidden clues in 
between here and there which 

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should. 
If I I can, I can tell you I've 

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not seen most of Rajamouli's 
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You know what I think? 
I've not seen a single one of 

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his films. 
I what this entire question was 

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dependent on you having seen it 
so I could lead you to the 

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answer. 
I have not seen Bahubali. 

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I have not seen RRR and many of 
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Yeah, definitely not seen. 
Oh my God, and you call yourself

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a film lover? 
I want to watch it, it's just 

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that it wasn't in theaters when 
I wanted to go watch it. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
There is no such thing as 

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streaming anymore, you know. 
Hey listen, a lot of people told

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me that Bahubali RR. 
All of these films are best 

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appreciated on the big screen. 
Well, OK, whatever. 

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So I have not seen any of these 
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concept I guess. 
OK, then I'm going to tell you 

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which movie. 
So then you figure out from your

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broad concept. 
OK, RRR. 

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Oh my God, that does. 
Is it not to not to by any 

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chance? 
I've seen that video quite a few

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times. 
Oh God, OK, my entire question 

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was predicated on being able to 
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through RRR so I could get you 
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that's not happening I think 
we'll stop wasting time and I 

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will tell you the answer. 
No, no, no. 

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You know what? 
I can try this. 

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I can try this. 
OK, I'm going to give you a 

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giveaway clue. 
The idea that this thing named 

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was a super continent. 
OK, I was thinking of Pangaea, 

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but Pangaea is. 
It's not Pangaea. 

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Then there's Gondwana. 
Land. 

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Thank you. 
It is Gondwana land and 

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Gondwana. 
So X is Gondwana, Y is Gondwana 

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land. 
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supercontinent Gondwana, but 
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differentiate between the region
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Gondwana and the supercontinent,
many researchers now call it 

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Gondwana land for the 
supercontinent. 

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Now for the benefit of our 
audience who have been patiently

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listening while Aditya trudged 
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me put everything into 
perspective. 

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Henry Benedict Medleycott coined
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Gondwana refers to a Permian 
cold bearing stratigraphic 

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region in India named after the 
Gond people. 

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They are a tribe indigenous 
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inhabit central India's basics. 
The continent of Gondwana or 

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Gondwana land was named by 
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after the Indian region of the 
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name from Sanskrit. 
Oh. 

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It was Gond one, as in Forest of
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Oh. 
So Gondwan became Gondwana, 

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which became Gondwana land. 
The earliest Gondwana rocks were

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found and studied in mostly 
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connection was made from 
Gondwana to Gondwana land. 

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Now since you've not seen RRR, 
this will make absolutely zero 

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sense to you. 
But to the rest of the normal 

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people listening to this 
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to RR, the Gond people depicted 
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Rajamouli film of 2022 as the 
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played by Junior NTR or NT Ram 
Rao Junior and the rescued girl,

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The person whose plight leads to
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Malli. 
She's also a Gond. 

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They are the Gond's of central 
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tribe. 
The region that they lived in 

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gave rise to the Sanskrit name 
Gond 1, which gave rise to the 

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name Gondwana, and from there to
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land. 
That's pretty cool. 

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Now if you had watched the movie
you would be like oh mind blown 

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but ABS this is just hopeless. 
Why do I even? 

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Mind is still blown. 
Mind is still blown. 

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No more South Indian movie 
connections for you to be. 

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Fair. 
I think it's the genre of film 

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that doesn't really appeal to me
as much good. 

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James Cameron loves his movies. 
I could like James Cameron film 

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either. 
I have not gone and watched the 

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new avatars. 
Okay, the avatars. 

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Everybody makes shit movies when
they get older, but come on. 

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Terminator 2, Judgment Day, True
Lies. 

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Okay, okay, The Abyss. 
Good films. 

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Good films, I'm saying, is 
recent. 

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Titanic. 
I think Titanic is a little 

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overrated to be very honest. 
Look, I won't disagree with you 

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there, but still. 
Other films get I think he's 

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larger than life films have I 
pics have always kind of bored 

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me a little. 
What about true lies? 

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I have not seen True Lies. 
Oh my God, what is wrong with 

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you? 
Today's homework for you is to 

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go and watch True Lies, one of 
the greatest action comedy spy 

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thrillers ever made. 
True Lies it is. 

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I can watch it today and it 
still holds up. 

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Please, please, please I am 
begging you Heart Choto, please 

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watch that movie. 
Oh, I will. 

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I will abide by this. 
As usual, empty words, Aditya, 

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empty words. 
Hey, listen, listen, listen. 

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I don't like this tone of 
judgment, OK? 

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There's supposed to be an 
inclusive space. 

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We we do this trivia without any
timer, without any pre set 

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format, just because we we like 
to ensure that when the other 

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person is a fool like me, they 
don't feel bad about it. 

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You should consider that this is
a podcast where we actually give

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pop culture recommendations. 
I think my pop culture 

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recommendations are things I 
truly believe in. 

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And then there are some things 
that are not everybody's cup of 

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tea. 
Listen, if you don't like 

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things, you wouldn't know. 
I don't like watch. 

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It. 
OK I'll watch True Lies, I'll 

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also watch. 
I'll definitely watch Baubali. 

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I will watch KGF at some point 
as well. 

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No, no, I like KGF. 
I don't think you like, I don't 

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think you'll like KGF. 
So I'm not telling you to watch 

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like I enjoyed the movie, but I 
don't think you'll like it. 

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All of these movies, fantastic 
soundtracks. 

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OK, I've heard all the songs, 
I've watched the music videos, 

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great soundtracks, A phenomenal 
dancing like not not to I mean, 

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come on, like I learned the 
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so good. 
But the movies, yeah, not not my

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my instinct to go watch them, 
but but I respect your choice in

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film. 
So I'll at some point watch it 

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and I'll come with you for 
encouraging me. 

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How is it that we've been doing 
this podcast for three years and

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I didn't know that you never 
watched Baahubali or RRR or any 

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of the Rajpathi Don't. 
Talk about it. 

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I don't talk about it. 
I feel like I'll get judged for 

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it. 
Have you seen Rowdy Rathod? 

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No, I'm not. 
OK. 

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It's a genre of films that I 
just don't care for too much. 

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OK, having embarrassed myself, 
I'm going to move on to 

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something that is potentially 
embarrassing to someone else 

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entirely. 
OK. 

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And then using geography as a 
jumping off point? 

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OK. 
I'm sure you're aware of the 

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current geopol. 
I mean, you would have to be 

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living under a rock to not know 
that the US is trying to some 

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way get their hands on 
Greenland. 

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I'm aware. 
So you know that this is not the

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first time that they have 
expressed in acquiring 

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Greenland. 
US has had at multiple points of

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time wanted to expand their 
territories. 

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There have been very famous 
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war, sometimes through monetary 
transactions, where America has 

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acquired land. 
One of the most recent permanent

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expansions of the United States 
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itself sold some land in the 
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the US not showing too much more
interest in Greenland. 

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This was the last time that 
Denmark was like a hey, listen, 

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buddy, relax, OK? 
We're going to give you this 

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thing which will hopefully make 
up for not having Greenland. 

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Oh, my God. 
Vinit is already cracking his 

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knuckles. 
He knows where this is going. 

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This is not going to be an 
Rajamouli moment. 

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So the first part of the 
question is what was sold to the

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US the last time that Denmark 
was like a bra get off our back,

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we don't want want to give you 
Greenland. 

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This would be Jeffrey Epstein's 
sex island. 

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Oh my God, that was both my 
questions combined into one. 

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Whereas this is, as you are 
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Epstein's island is part of what
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Indies. 
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States for a grand total sum of 
$25 million in gold, which would

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be $722 million after accounting
for inflation. 

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And this treaty was in 1916, so 
more than 100 years ago. 

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OK. 
More than 100 years ago, they 

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sold this part to the US to get 
them off their back, not come 

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after them. 
For Greenland, the US took it. 

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It was one of the last or rather
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of United States territory which
became the US Virgin Islands. 

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Now US Virgin Islands obviously 
has a bunch of islands in it. 

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One of them more recently in the
news because of Jeffrey Epstein,

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the sex offender who killed 
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incarcerated. 
And that was the hub of all of 

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his illicit illegal activities 
and doings and wrongdoings. 

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And Epstein Island just feels 
like it doesn't leave Trump. 

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Oh no, no, no. 
One way or the other. 

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That man comes back to that. 
OK, so thanks to the s s 

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Rajamouli's. 
I don't know. 

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I want to connect this to S S 
Rajamouli for anything and 

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everything today so that I. 
Can don't. 

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Don't do it. 
Don't do it. 

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I don't think this is a good 
condition to make for Rajamouli.

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Oh no man, don't do that. 
No, no, no, take care. 

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OK? 
Thanks to the cinema God that he

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was answered my prayers, I knew 
the answer to the question. 

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Again, why would you want to 
connect somebody you like, Steve

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Ireland and Trump and idiocies 
of that nature? 

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OK, Speaking of cinema Gods, 
this is something that's 

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definitely not a Cinema God 
related question. 

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But Cello X, the actor who 
ultimately brought the character

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Y to life, was not the original 
choice for The Road. 

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Interestingly, Amitabh Bachchan 
played a significant, though 

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indirect, role in the creation 
of the character Y. 

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The character's very name echoes
the titles of 1 of Bachchan's 

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films, while Y's personality and
visual style drew inspiration 

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from the great Gambler, in which
the late Sujit Kumar portrayed A

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comparable Italian character. 
I want you to identify the actor

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X whose praised for his comic 
timing and name the character Y.

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All right, so let me get that 
straight. 

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You mentioned that this is a 
character that was inspired by 

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Amitabh Bachchan's movie. 
The name is inspired by Amitabh 

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Bachchan's movie title. 
The character is Y, the actor is

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X. 
The character's name was 

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inspired or basically it echoes 
1 of Amitabh's films and wise 

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personality. 
The character's personality and 

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visual style drew inspiration 
from a character in The Great 

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Gambler, played by Sujit. 
Kumar, one other film that I've 

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not seen. 
I think you might have seen 

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this. 
I've not seen this film. 

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No, I meant great gambler I've 
not seen but any case Amitabh 

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Bachchan film that inspired the 
title. 

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Is that a famous film or is it 
not very? 

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Decent. 
Decently famous. 

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I've heard of it even though 
I've not seen it. 

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I've heard of it. 
OK, give me a time frame for the

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the Y film or the Y character 
film. 

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So the film that the character Y
first appeared in was 2010. 

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First appeared in SO are you 
implying that this character has

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appeared multiple times in 
films? 

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Maybe. 
Character we heard in a 2010 

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film and potentially has 
appeared multiple times. 

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Like I mentioned, the 
character's personality and 

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visual style was inspired from 
the great Gambler in which Sujit

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Kumar portrayed an Italian 
character. 

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So is this character vaguely 
European or Italian or something

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like that? 
There is a connection I think at

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least. 
I've not watched the movie so I 

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don't know. 
I think I've watched the first 

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one, but I can't for the life of
me remember the plot and I've 

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never watched it a second time 
and I've never felt the need to 

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watch it again. 
I have vague memories of doing 

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it, but it's not one of the 
movies that stuck. 

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This is a comedy character like 
it's a comedy film. 

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Did you say some comic timing 
thing? 

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Yes, yes, yes, it is a comedy 
character. 

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I'm assuming it's a Hindi film, 
right? 

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It is a Hindi film. 
Bollywood film 2010 comedy, 

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vaguely European or maybe 
Italian, has appeared multiple 

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times. 
The name is inspired by an 

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Amitabh Bachchan film. 
A 1986 Amitabh Bachchan film. 

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Oh OK, 1986 I know. 
More of his 70s films? 

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No, I know. 
No idea at all. 

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OK so I'm going to give you a 
clue. 

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Like I already kind of 
indirectly mentioned, this 

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character has appeared in 
multiple films. 

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Again, I don't want to get flag 
for this because I've not 

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watched the movies, but from 
what I could understand, while 

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each movie had some of the same 
actors, all the names used to 

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get changed from movie to movie.
However, this actor portrayed a 

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character by the same name in 
all of. 

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Those house full or something 
like that. 

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Very good, it is the house full 
movie. 

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So which character am I talking 
about? 

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Hey. 
I've not seen a single one of 

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those either. 
I've not seen a single one of 

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those. 
Thank you. 

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OK. 
OK, so this is awkward. 

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I've not seen it either so but I
really liked the trivia portion 

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of it. 
So then it's going to be 

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difficult for you to answer it. 
The answer was Chunky Pandey. 

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Oh, right. 
Yeah, he's been in the films, 

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Yeah. 
Yes, and the character's name is

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Akri. 
Pasta I I don't care for this 

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piece of trivia. 
I don't care for those movies. 

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I. 
Listen to this. 

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Listen to this So Chunky Pandey 
was not the original choice for 

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the Road. 
Director Sajid Khan initially 

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was supposed to play the 
character himself, but then he 

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realized that he couldn't direct
and act in the film. 

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So he approached Chunky Pandey 
and offered him the Road. 

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Both the name and persona Bakri 
Pasta were directly inspired by 

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Amitabh Bachchan films. 
The name Akri Pasta rhymes 

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directly with Amitabh Bachchan's
1986 film. 

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Akri rasta, beautiful, beautiful
Akri pasta. 

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Akri rasta. 
Like that's, that's poetry. 

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That's poetry. 
Like who is Rajamouli? 

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Honestly, yes, chill with your 
grand epics. 

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And also can I just point out, 
you said at some point Sajid 

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Khan thought that if an A quote 
he acts in the film, he will not

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be able to direct it. 
Let me just clarify. 

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I have not seen the films, but 
going by whatever I have seen of

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it, not like he directed the 
hell out of it because he was 

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not acting in it. 
No, but it is, I think, the 

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highest grossing comedy series 
of Indian cinema. 

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OK, fair enough. 
Because I think the most recent 

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one just came out because I 
would imagine the playing 

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golmal. 
It has also had multiple outings

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that would probably have earned 
a fair bit. 

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Rohit Shetty films usually do 
OK, but this is this has been a 

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few more than that. 
Yeah, makes sense. 

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Say what you will about him, but
he's laughing all the way to the

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bank. 
Anyway, going back to this, the 

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characters appearance, clothing 
and mannerisms were inspired by 

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Marconi, the Italian character 
played by the late Sujit Kumar 

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in The Great Gambler. 
This is apparently the character

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that has appeared through all 5 
films and when I was going 

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through the Wikipedia credits, 
apparently in one movie he's 

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credited as Akri Pasta slash 
Pehla Pasta. 

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Double roll I'm guessing. 
So I'm confused, but I don't 

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want to clear the confusion by 
actually watching the movie. 

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Yeah, why would you? 
Also, you know what? 

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I'm not giving Sajid Khan enough
credit. 

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You said Marconi, which kind of 
sounds like macaroni. 

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Oh, God, which is a kind of 
pasta. 

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So I believe this all ties 
together in the houseful 

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cinematic universe. 
OK, so that was there was an 

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interesting piece of trivia. 
I really like the Akri pasta pun

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and I thought you would enjoy 
it. 

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You know what, If it was not 
associated to the Houseful 

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Films, I would have appreciated 
it. 

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OK, no shade to anybody who 
likes them. 

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You like what you like, but God,
Oh my God, that just seems so 

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annoying. 
All of them. 

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You know what? 
It's fine. 

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It's fine. 
It's fine. 

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Let's move on. 
Yeah, Move on. 

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Move on, move on. 
OK, hit me with your best shot. 

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All right, Vineet, we're doing a
list and this is a non 

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exhaustive list. 
Oh God, I hate you. 

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Tell me, how are these words 
connected? 

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Flip, Ding, tick, hip. 
Flip, tick, Ding and hip. 

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Yes, I want to say all of them 
have 4 letters. 

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No, HIP does not have 4 letters.
Oh, I've embarrassed myself. 

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At least three of them have 4 
letters. 

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I have no clue. 
Where is this going? 

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Give you a context now. 
The fun part about this piece of

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trivia is that it is one of 
those things that is pervasive 

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in our day-to-day life and yet 
we are not aware of it. 

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OK, and it has to do with the 
word itself, the language, 

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English language. 
Flip hip, Bing and Bing right? 

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Correct. 
Isn't that like a surgical flip 

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procedure called the Bing flip 
or something? 

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I don't know again. 
Again, it's literally language. 

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It isn't anything. 
Go with medicine, with science, 

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with pop culture. 
None of those things. 

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Literally language. 
The English language. 

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And it's a non exhaustive list 
You said yes, something to do 

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with onomatopoeia. 
The sound of it, in a way, yes, 

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00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,360
yeah. 
Bing, all of them are like 1 

453
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:10,000
syllable, is that it? 
The syllable part of it is 

454
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,840
important, yes. 
Something related Automatopia 

455
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,320
and it's also with the number of
syllables or something, the way 

456
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,520
it sounds like Clue place. 
You know what, let's just 

457
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,760
breakdown what this is. 
There is a concept X in 

458
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,880
languages in general. 
In the English language, there 

459
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:31,520
is a version of X that all 
English speakers use or abide by

460
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,160
in a way. 
There are other versions of it 

461
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,560
in other languages, especially 
South Asian languages. 

462
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,360
So X is a version of it in South
Asian languages that pretty much

463
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:45,400
is pervasive across India across
all the multiple languages that 

464
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,520
are spoken across India. 
You who are more familiar with 

465
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,040
the South Indian languages would
also employ it in a slightly 

466
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,200
different way. 
And I more familiar with North 

467
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,120
Indian language, is more 
familiar with Hindi, would 

468
00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:58,920
employ it in a slightly 
different way. 

469
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,880
But these are all versions of X.
This concept X that applies to 

470
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,880
languages in general. 
The version of it in question 

471
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,160
that is relevant to the list is 
what is used in English 

472
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,200
language. 
There is another version of it 

473
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,360
that is used in South Asian 
languages, Indian languages 

474
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,560
specifically, but I think other 
languages too. 

475
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,440
Would this apply to other 
Romance languages like French? 

476
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,880
I am not too sure, I have only 
seen this in the context of 

477
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,680
English. 
I don't think it would apply to 

478
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,640
French, but hey, any French 
because of the feel free to 

479
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,800
correct me. 
Initially I thought it might be 

480
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,560
the fact that words have gender,
but English languages don't 

481
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,960
usually do that. 
Yeah, words in general as part 

482
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,760
of grammar do not have gender. 
I love that concept because I 

483
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,280
think there has been a study 
about how languages which assign

484
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:49,200
a gender to certain nouns which 
are not biologically gendered. 

485
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,440
Like a bridge, right? 
Or a road. 

486
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,640
If your language assigns gender 
to it, the adjectives associated

487
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,480
to that noun would become more 
feminine in nature or masculine 

488
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,920
in nature. 
I think the example was bridge 

489
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,040
and I'm forgetting what are the 
2 languages in question, but in 

490
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,880
one of them it's a masculine 
word and another it's a feminine

491
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,840
word. 
So in the masculine language the

492
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,360
bridge would be defined as 
strong, majestic or something 

493
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:14,600
like those would be the 
adjectives. 

494
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,960
Whereas in the feminine language
it would be beautiful feminine 

495
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,640
sounding injectors. 
It's very interesting how 

496
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,120
language changes how you look at
even nouns in question, but not 

497
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,440
the thing in in our question 
here. 

498
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,160
OK. 
South Asian language is 

499
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,800
something similar but different.
It's the way we say something, 

500
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,960
right? 
I said syllables are important. 

501
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,960
You pointed something out to do 
with syllables. 

502
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,280
I said syllables are important. 
Yeah, literally the vowels in 

503
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,080
that. 
The vowels, all of them have 

504
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,440
just I, oh, I is pronounced as 
ill in all of this. 

505
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,200
That could be a very broad 
thing. 

506
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:56,040
I'm talking about a specific 
usage where I changes. 

507
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,200
Let's say that whatever was to 
substitute I. 

508
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:05,040
You want to substitute I in 
flip, flip, flip, flip. 

509
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,400
Why are you repeating the word? 
Flap flip flop. 

510
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,920
OK, let me make it even simpler.
What if I was to repeat the 

511
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,840
word? 
Ding Ding, flip, flip, hip, hip.

512
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,040
OK, you repeat them and you have
like hip hip hurray and Ding 

513
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,080
Ding winner winner checking 
dinner something like. 

514
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,040
And flip flip. 
I don't know, there must be 

515
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,920
something. 
I also mentioned changing the 

516
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,480
vowel right. 
OK, I'm so confused here right 

517
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,960
now. 
Change the vowel but then repeat

518
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,320
the word. 
Literally just spelt out my 

519
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,480
answer. 
Flip flop. 

520
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,120
Yeah yeah. 
Just follow that through flip 

521
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,880
flop. 
Ding Dong hip hop. 

522
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,360
Oh God. 
What was the 4th? 

523
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,120
1 TikTok. 
TikTok. 

524
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,800
OK, Yeah. 
So here's the idea. 

525
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,760
Reduplication. 
Have you heard of the word 

526
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,840
reduplication? 
Ha, we do it in Hindi also. 

527
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,520
No party, Shati. 
So reduplication is very simple.

528
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,280
It's just repeating the word as 
is, right? 

529
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,600
Like bye bye. 
Yeah, OK. 

530
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,160
Yeah, yeah. 
As you mentioned in the South 

531
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,640
Asian languages, in Indian 
languages there is a party 

532
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,120
Shati. 
I think there is something like 

533
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,800
that in Tamil as well. 
But in any case, there are quite

534
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,720
a few Indian languages. 
I think there is a version of 

535
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,480
that in Punjabi and it changes 
slightly where it might be a 

536
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,320
substitution with whatever the 
first consonant is. 

537
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,560
It might change to over or a 
sure in the reduplication. 

538
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,080
That's called echo 
reduplication. 

539
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,960
But that was not the question. 
The question was about English. 

540
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,640
In English, there is a rule that
has to do with reduplication. 

541
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,640
This specific type of 
reduplication is called the 

542
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,480
ablout reduplication. 
Do you want to take a guess as 

543
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,320
to what a blout reduplication 
is? 

544
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,520
Whatever I just said earlier, 
you know, flip flop, that's the 

545
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,640
thing. 
That's the thing we're talking 

546
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,840
about. 
What does it? 

547
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,160
Yeah, very good. 
You're not going to give me an 

548
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,520
answer, but giving me examples. 
You'll be marked down in your 

549
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,520
10th board exams if you did that
Vineet. 

550
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,680
OK, so I'm guessing that when 
the second word, the vowel has 

551
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,800
to be changed to the succeeding 
vowel or something like that. 

552
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,560
Close enough. 
So I'll just tell you what it 

553
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,400
is. 
There is an order in which that 

554
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,280
you can repeat these words. 
So I will always have to be the 

555
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,640
first vowel and the second one 
can be O. 

556
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,880
That's why it would never make 
sense to call it down, Ding 

557
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,600
toxic, even though essentially 
these are words when repeated 

558
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,760
often of sounds same thing, but 
there's a pattern to it. 

559
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,840
It's one of those things. 
Have you heard of the order of 

560
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,400
adjectives? 
There is a certain rule in 

561
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,720
English for that as well. 
Yes, yes, yes. 

562
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,080
All English speakers abide by 
where again I'm, I'm forgetting 

563
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,760
what the exact one is, but the 
size and then followed by color 

564
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,400
and then followed by where it is
from. 

565
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,160
So you'll say it's a blue German
car, right? 

566
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,240
You'll not say it's a German 
blue car. 

567
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,840
Like that would sound weird. 
Most English speakers do it 

568
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,440
without realizing it. 
It's the same thing with oblout 

569
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,480
reduplication as well, which I 
thought was very interesting 

570
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,880
that you would say jibber 
jabber. 

571
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,360
You would never ever say jabber 
jibber. 

572
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,280
And then across all of these 
reduplications that exist in 

573
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:10,120
English which change the vowel 
slightly, it'll always be a 

574
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,920
pattern which follows IA and O. 
So if there are three words 

575
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,080
which are repeating, it will 
always be IAO. 

576
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,680
If not, it will be IO or AO OK 
and so on as far as a SPLISH 

577
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,040
splash. 
OK it. 

578
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,080
Will never be splash splish 
because I has to be followed by 

579
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,720
A has to be followed by O. 
OK, just tell me the order of 

580
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,240
those vowels again. 
I don't know why it was only for

581
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,360
these three vowels that I found 
most articles Speaking of, but 

582
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,440
it said IAO. 
I can't think of examples where 

583
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,680
E or U is used. 
In any case, it is IAO, which is

584
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,440
also interesting because to an 
English speaker you'll have all 

585
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,400
sorts of words, right? 
Chit chat, crisscross, dilly, 

586
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,560
dally, fiddle, faddle, flim, 
flim flam, flim flam. 

587
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,280
Both these words individually 
don't really mean anything, but 

588
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,840
together they sound reasonable 
to an English speaker because of

589
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,680
this particular unspoken rule. 
These are very interesting. 

590
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,880
And of course, the most famous 
example in pop culture of that 

591
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,760
is King Kong. 
It would not have made sense to 

592
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,840
call it Tom King. 
Very true. 

593
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,120
OK, so now I know what an 
oblatory duplication is. 

594
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,600
You do, you do so. 
I'm going to take you far away 

595
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,680
from all of that. 
I'm going to take you into the 

596
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,840
world of a mockumentary which 
has featured on this podcast 

597
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,280
before. 
Lovely. 

598
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,320
This is Spinal Tap. 
We've discussed it on the 

599
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,040
podcast, I think many, many 
episodes before. 

600
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,520
But have you seen the particular
mockumentary? 

601
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,760
Even more disappointed and the 
fact that another film I've not 

602
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,920
seen and also the maker of the 
film passed away recently. 

603
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,440
But great film from what I know.
Fair enough. 

604
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,880
We haven't seen the film because
I'm going to tell you about it. 

605
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,360
Perfect. 
For those who don't know, This 

606
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,520
Is Spinal Tap is a mock 
documentary or mockumentary 

607
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,520
about a fading British heavy 
metal band called Spinal Tap. 

608
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,040
It follows them on a disastrous 
American comeback tour. 

609
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,360
The film follows the clueless 
band members as shrinking 

610
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,320
audiences. 
Botched strange props, clashing 

611
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,160
egos, interfering girlfriends, 
they all kind of wreak havoc on 

612
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,320
the tour while they remain 
convinced of their own 

613
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,760
greatness. 
The movie ends with the group 

614
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,600
improbably getting a second life
when they become unexpectedly 

615
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,400
popular in Japan. 
The movie features a running gag

616
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,800
where the band's drummers die in
increasingly bizarre and absurd 

617
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,240
ways. 
John Stumpy Peppis died in a 

618
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,920
bizarre gardening accident that 
authorities deemed it best be 

619
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,160
left unsolved. 
Eric Stumpy. 

620
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,840
Joe Childs choked on somebody 
else's vomit. 

621
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,720
Peter James Bond spontaneously 
combusted on stage at a Blues 

622
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,560
Festival, leaving behind only a 
green stain. 

623
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,560
The current drummer, Mick 
Shrimpton, meets the same 

624
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,600
explosive fate during the film's
climax, perpetuating the curse. 

625
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,480
OK. 
So now you have an idea what the

626
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,400
movie is about and the running 
gag in the movie. 

627
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:13,760
The movie and this running gag 
inspired a major plot point in a

628
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,360
very large popular culture 
phenomenon. 

629
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,480
What did it inspire? 
Well, because you spoke of the 

630
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,199
drummer dying in increasingly 
bizarre ways. 

631
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,000
I can only think of another 
character who dies all the time,

632
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,440
and that is South Park Kenny. 
Oh, no, no, good guess. 

633
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,719
But no, it's not South Park, 
Kenny. 

634
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,480
Oh, OK. 
All right. 

635
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,199
Yeah. 
Well, Kenny is known to 

636
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,360
frequently die, especially in 
the earlier seasons, in very, 

637
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,080
very strange ways. 
But it doesn't have to do with 

638
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,360
the character that dies or, or 
characters that have died 

639
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,920
multiple times. 
Or is it something else? 

640
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,920
So it's not just dying, it's 
just unfortunate things 

641
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,120
happening. 
But has this character died in 

642
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,640
the span of this whatever pop 
culture thing is movie series, 

643
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,960
whatever it is book? 
Only one of them has died. 

644
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,240
OK. 
No, actually, two of them have 

645
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,280
died. 
Two of them have died, OK if 

646
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,000
memory serves me right. 
I thought I nailed it with 

647
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,240
Kenny, but if not Kenny. 
Oh, it's something you know much

648
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,800
better than Kenny. 
I think if anything this episode

649
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,560
has proven is the fact that you 
don't know what I know. 

650
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,800
You're making wild assumptions 
about things I know. 

651
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,720
I absolutely know that you know 
this. 

652
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,760
Right. 
Let's just do process of 

653
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,280
elimination. 
Is it ATV show? 

654
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,240
Is it a movie? 
Yes. 

655
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,040
OK TV show and a movie. 
I'm being a little facetious 

656
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,360
there. 
I could technically provide a 

657
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,400
clarification, but I'm not going
to because you're not 

658
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,080
technically wrong. 
Neither am I technically wrong 

659
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,520
when I said yes. 
OK, this pop culture thing spans

660
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,960
much more than movies and or ATV
show. 

661
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,240
Oh, OK, Is it Deadpool? 
Oh, it's not. 

662
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:58,240
It's not. 
I will give you one more clue. 

663
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:00,720
Let me rephrase one part of the 
question. 

664
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,000
I mentioned that this movie and 
this running gag inspired 

665
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,000
something a major plot point in 
a very large and very popular 

666
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,800
pop culture phenomenon. 
I'm going to rephrase that and 

667
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,080
say that it inspired something a
major plot point in and IP, 

668
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:20,480
which was the basis for the 
ninth highest grossing media 

669
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,720
franchise in the world. 
Ninth highest grossing media 

670
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,800
franchise. 
This is not James Bond, right? 

671
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,400
No, but also this final type is 
after the James Bond novel, so 

672
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,600
it doesn't make sense. 
Is it Harry? 

673
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,840
Potter, let's assume that you're
right and it's Harry Potter. 

674
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,240
What plot point did this? 
Oh my. 

675
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:45,960
God, is it the Defense Against 
the Dark Arts teachers? 

676
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,600
Exactly. 
Wow. 

677
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,200
For all you Harry Potter nerds, 
the answer is that according to 

678
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,240
JK Rowling, the curse of the 
Defense Against the Dark Arts 

679
00:36:55,240 --> 00:37:00,680
teachers was inspired by Spinal 
Tap drummers dying in bizarre 

680
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,400
circumstances, and she's 
explicitly stated this. 

681
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,360
This is not a conspiracy theory,
she's explicitly stated this 

682
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,840
that this was her inspiration. 
That every Hogwarts Dada 

683
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,720
professor suffers misfortune or 
quitting before the year's end. 

684
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,360
If you look at it, Quirrell was 
possessed and killed by 

685
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,280
Voldemort 9192. 
Lockhart was obliviated by his 

686
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,920
own spell which backfired on him
9293. 

687
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,320
Lupin was exposed werewolf and 
had to resign 9394. 

688
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,640
Moody was impersonated and 
kidnapped 9495. 

689
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:39,760
Ambridge was attacked by centers
in 9596 and Snip was basically 

690
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,800
then became actually he did a 
progress from being the Dada 

691
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,720
professor to the principal. 
So technically no misfortune 

692
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:48,880
happened to him while he was in 
the post, but he ended up dead 

693
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,560
at the hands of Nagini. 
That is in 9697. 

694
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,480
True, true. 
The 7th book one also died 

695
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,320
during the Battle of Hogwarts, 
if I'm not wrong. 

696
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,120
The teacher who was, Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

697
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,720
I think it was the caros I think
it was. 

698
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,560
One of the caros who had made 
it, instead of Dada, it was just

699
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,160
dark arts. 
They were just teaching the kids

700
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,240
dark arts, making them try the 
to share this curse on each 

701
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:09,680
other and stuff. 
Wow. 

702
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,160
Yeah, Harry Potter sticks with 
you. 

703
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,160
Do you know the origin of the 
curse? 

704
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,160
Oh yeah, the origin I remember 
it's because Voldemort wanted it

705
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,440
and Dumbledore turned him down. 
So Dumbledore has never found 

706
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,240
another person who could stick 
with it. 

707
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:24,240
I assume once Voldemort died, 
yeah, the curse lifted. 

708
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:28,720
Yes, you would imagine, but I 
have to ask the Canon head. 

709
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,280
Yeah, she keeps changing things,
so we're not very exactly be 

710
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,120
sure about anything. 
Not currently. 

711
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,080
Also very popular. 
For all the wrong reasons. 

712
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,480
But wow, that's pretty cool. 
I love that. 

713
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,760
And because at least the Harry 
Potter thing is is obviously 

714
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,080
iconic. 
Everybody knows that. 

715
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,440
And I did not come from this 
presumably great movie, which 

716
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,160
I've not seen. 
Yeah, it is very funny. 

717
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,800
I think it had the sequel also 
which came out last year. 

718
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,320
I've not watched the sequel. 
Spinal Tap 2 The End continues 

719
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,480
the 2025 American mockumentary 
comedy film. 

720
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,520
Oh, this 2025? 
And it was, I think, the last 

721
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,080
film that Rob Reiner directed 
before he passed away, 

722
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,600
unfortunately. 
OK, I have to watch this. 

723
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,080
But lovely piece of trivia and 
another movie I've not seen. 

724
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,880
But that's three on three for 
for all your questions. 

725
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,760
So far, no other films I've 
seen, but great pieces of trivia

726
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,920
nonetheless. 
OK, you know what I'm going to 

727
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,000
tell you about a film that I 
think you would probably have 

728
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,160
not seen, but it relates to a 
hopefully new piece of trivia, 

729
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,280
at least an interesting piece of
trivia. 

730
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,680
For you, OK. 
Do you know which film was? 

731
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,400
As a lot of films are when 
they're distributed, they are 

732
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,880
not distributed under their 
original name for secrecy 

733
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,840
purposes for it not be leaked. 
So which film was distributed 

734
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:48,920
under the name Wardrobe? 
If I were to guess, was it 

735
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,200
something like Hairspray? 
Think of a film which has a lot 

736
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,960
to do with outfits. 
The Devil Wears Prada. 

737
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,880
Great guess. 
That would have been my first 

738
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,520
guess as well. 
But no, not Devil Wears Prada. 

739
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,800
I am referring to a movie which 
has literally, Again, it's not 

740
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,160
the most famous of films. 
It is what quote UN quote people

741
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,200
call chick flick. 
I have not seen this particular 

742
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,400
one, but I do like the genre in 
general. 

743
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,040
This one stars Katherine Heigl. 
Heigl Heigl. 

744
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,640
I'm not sure. 40 year old 
virgin. 

745
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,640
No, I, like I said, something to
do with the outfits. 

746
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,760
Which is the one where she was 
pregnant? 

747
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,080
Is it? 
Knocked. 

748
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:25,360
Up. 
Yeah. 

749
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,600
Knocked up. 
I think it's knocked up. 

750
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,880
No, no, not knocked up either. 
Never liked Katherine Heigl 

751
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,320
much, I just find her 
performances a little 

752
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,400
disingenuous to me, but I don't 
know. 

753
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,640
Wow, that I think that's all the
Katherine Heigl films that I 

754
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,240
know. 
OK, you know what? 

755
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,120
Perhaps not the most important 
piece of trivia associated with 

756
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,040
this, but the film is 27 
dresses. 

757
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,120
OK, yeah, I've heard of the 
movie. 

758
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,240
I've not seen it. 
I've not. 

759
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:49,120
I've never seen the movie. 
So. 

760
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,640
Apparently the wardrobe team on 
the film struggled to find 

761
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,680
dresses which fit her badly 
because she was so in shape that

762
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,960
all outfits looked great on her.
Yeah, now that's a problem you 

763
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,800
should be having. 
That's the kind of problem I 

764
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,640
would like. 
Wouldn't we all love that? 

765
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:07,240
But OK, not the trivia in 
question. 

766
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,480
Now, the basis of this film or 
the idea behind this film, or 

767
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,040
the synopsis or the one line 
summary of this film is 

768
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:21,800
something that was inspired by 
an ad back in the 1920s or the 

769
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,000
idea was popularized by an ad 
back in the 1920s. 

770
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,760
What is the idea behind this 
film if you know? 

771
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,760
And what ad am I referring to 
back in the 1920s? 

772
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,440
So there's an idea behind the 
movie 27 Dresses, which came 

773
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,560
from an advertisement in the 
1920s. 

774
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,240
So this is an idea that has been
there in the zeitgeist for 

775
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:44,040
whatever, however long. 
It didn't originate with the ad,

776
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,040
but it was popularized by this 
ad. 

777
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,200
I haven't watched the movie but 
if I remember the plot synopsis,

778
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,560
she is somebody who's always the
bridesmaid and never the bride. 

779
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,960
Perfect, that is exactly the 
idea. 

780
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,760
Always the bridesmaid, never the
bride. 

781
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,640
She's been a bridesmaid 27 
times. 

782
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,960
She's never been the bride. 
That was basically the synopsis 

783
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:03,360
of the film. 
OK, So what ad am I talking 

784
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:08,240
about? 
I was listening to Stuff You 

785
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:09,880
Should Know. 
I was listening to one of their 

786
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:15,760
earlier episodes in which they 
had mentioned that there were 

787
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:21,120
ads when they started 
advertising deodorants so you 

788
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,880
can come closer, that kind of 
thing. 

789
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,360
Was it something like that or a 
perfume? 

790
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,960
Two things. 
Stuff you should know. 

791
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,520
Amazing podcast. 
But in this case, no, we are not

792
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,480
talking about deodorant. 
But you're very, very close. 

793
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,000
Pun intended. 
You are very close. 

794
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,240
So something of that similar 
toothpaste mouthwash. 

795
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,320
Mouthwash. 
Is the answer. 

796
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,120
Perfect. 
So this is a Listerine ad from 

797
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,840
the 20s which popularized the 
idea. 

798
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,280
Always the bridesmaid, never the
bride because you have bad odor 

799
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,360
coming from your mouth. 
Halitosis. 

800
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,560
Halitosis, an idea which didn't 
exist before that which is not a

801
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,240
medical term to begin with. 
Literally Listerine came up with

802
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:06,400
halitosis to sell Listerine. 
Wow, there was number such thing

803
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,880
as halitosis before that, and 
the AD geniuses behind it were 

804
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,560
like, you know what, let's give 
it a name. 

805
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,480
Of course people knew of bad 
breath. 

806
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,680
It is that it didn't have a name
as such. 

807
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,960
And halitosis made it sound like
it's a thing that needs to be 

808
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,440
addressed. 
It's a medical issue that needs 

809
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,480
to be addressed and Listerine 
with its, you know, chemical 

810
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,400
formula is here to save your day
and save your life and get you 

811
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,760
to be the bride now. 
On the same episode they were 

812
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,360
saying that apparently body 
order didn't used to be a social

813
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,280
taboo thing until the 50s. 
It seems that's why people 

814
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,120
started explaining deodorants 
and antiperspirants. 

815
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:43,600
OK, I obviously not a historian 
by any means, but I would 

816
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,880
imagine body odor would always 
have been a thing. 

817
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,960
Like if somebody does have very 
strong body odor and sometimes 

818
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,560
it is a medical condition that 
would have been socially 

819
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,200
unacceptable or or made your 
pariah of sorts. 

820
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,000
But perhaps when when things 
just don't have a commonly 

821
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,600
accepted sort of way to speak 
about it. 

822
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,360
The idea that it's called Bo, 
body odor, I think maybe that 

823
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,480
gave it possible, possible 
corporeal form. 

824
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,200
So 27 dresses. 
The idea was from a Listerine 

825
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,160
commercial. 
Back in the 20s. 

826
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,080
Now, that's not where the phrase
first came. 

827
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,840
I think it came from some other 
song, maybe a couple of decades 

828
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,840
ago. 
But Listerine made this idea, 

829
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,720
and it's not just 27 dresses. 
A lot of places, a lot of 

830
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:26,120
spaces. 
You'll hear of this concept of 

831
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,520
like, oh, she's always the 
bridesmaid, never the bride. 

832
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:31,320
But it isn't always used in the 
context of bad breath. 

833
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,600
It's sometimes like, oh, she's a
bad luck or, or she's not the 

834
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,800
chosen one or yada, yada, yada. 
Yeah, but it all came from this 

835
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,640
idea of bad breath. 
Yeah. 

836
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:44,560
Listerine just making everybody 
conscious of how bad that breath

837
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,560
smells. 
Wow, nice question, Very nice 

838
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,080
question. 
I did not know that. 

839
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,520
So Let's Screen was responsible 
for half the bridal industry 

840
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,080
now. 
Yeah, I guess you could say 

841
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,040
that. 
OK, very nice. 

842
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,080
So I'm going to ask my last 
question for the name this I am 

843
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,920
guaranteeing I know for a fact 
that you will be able to answer 

844
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,160
this like in two seconds. 
But I just found this trivia so 

845
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:11,920
fascinating that I was like, I 
have to ask it on this podcast. 

846
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:17,040
OK, so in the late 1950s a 
devastating famine triggered by 

847
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,160
bamboo flowering and the 
resulting rat plague ravaged the

848
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,760
Lushai Hills, giving rise to a 
relief movement that soon 

849
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,200
evolved into the Mizo National 
Front under their leader 

850
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,280
Laldenga. 
This is in Missouri, present day

851
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,920
Missouri. 
What followed was a prolonged 

852
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,600
insurgency, including a dramatic
uprising in 1966 marked by the 

853
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,440
brief capture of key towns and 
cross-border operations into 

854
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:49,200
Myanmar. 2 decades later, at the
height of the conflict, when the

855
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,600
rebel leadership was effectively
holding the Indian state to 

856
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:59,480
ransom, X executed a covert 
operation by infiltrating the 

857
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:05,360
Mizo National Army's leadership 
network and quietly turning 6 of

858
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,720
Laldenga 7 closest aid. 
With the insurgency fractured 

859
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:13,480
from within, Laldenga was forced
to negotiate, leading to the 

860
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,920
landmark peace accord of 1986. 
So my question is who? 

861
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:23,560
Was X What is the time period? 
1986, no 1980s basically. 

862
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,200
No, I don't know because I get 
to run there. 

863
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,600
Is it Ajit Doval by any chance? 
Yes, it is Ajit Doval. 

864
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,080
Oh, OK. 
I found the story fascinating. 

865
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,720
OK, just imagine. 
We watched the movie. 

866
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:36,320
Obviously, some parts of it is 
real, some part of its fiction. 

867
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,520
We don't know what is what, but 
it's a good movie, so we watch 

868
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,200
it for its merit. 
But the fact that this man talks

869
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,960
about infiltrating the very core
of the terrorism in Pakistan and

870
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,880
all this is a guy who's actually
done something similar. 

871
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,240
Ajit Doval, operating under the 
code name Abu Dhabi. 

872
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,440
Yeah. 
We hosted key leaders of the 

873
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,680
Mizo National Army at his 
residence in Aizawal for private

874
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,560
dinners and strategic 
conversations. 

875
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,520
These gatherings allowed him to 
build trust and subtly persuade 

876
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,360
6 out of Laldinga, 7 closest 
commanders and AIDS, including 

877
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,400
notable figures like Lian Sanga 
and Tom Funga. 

878
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,240
Excuse my pronunciation. 
He basically convinced them to 

879
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:20,000
defect from the insurgency. 
This infiltration occurred while

880
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,320
Laldenga, the MNF founder and 
exile leader, operated from 

881
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,160
camps within Myanmar. 
The world's personal approach, 

882
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,880
which was marked by cultural 
sensitivity and direct 

883
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,440
engagement, fractured the 
organization's inner circle, 

884
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,440
leaving Laldenga isolated and 
vulnerable. 

885
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,760
In January 1986, Doval extended 
a formal invitation for Laldenga

886
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,920
to initiate direct talks with 
Indian authorities, signaling a 

887
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,240
pathway to negotiation. 
These efforts culminated in the 

888
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:52,480
historic Mizoram Peace Accord 
signed on June 30th, 1986 

889
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,560
between Prime Minister Rajiv 
Gandhi and Laldenga in New 

890
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,040
Delhi. 
The signing was broadcast live 

891
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,240
on national television, 
symbolizing the end of 20 years 

892
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:04,280
of violence. 
The accord granted Mizoram full 

893
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,120
statehood effective February 
20th, 1987. 

894
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,360
A general amnesty for over 3700 
militants who surrendered their 

895
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,760
arms and rehabilitation 
packages. 

896
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,360
Transforming Mizoram from a 
conflict zone into one of 

897
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,720
India's most peaceful states 
with a very high literacy rate 

898
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:26,000
of 91% and low crime. 
Because one man infiltrated the 

899
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,840
very core of terrorism in 
Mizoram. 

900
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,320
Not terrorism, obviously they 
were. 

901
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,760
I don't know what to call them, 
an insurgency. 

902
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:34,480
Right. 
Interesting. 

903
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,880
I thought that was a good 
question to put in there you. 

904
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,080
Know I've seen some clips of 
Ajit Doval talking about the 

905
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,960
time when he was in Pakistan 
also, so I think he has some 

906
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,080
experience there as well. 
OK, I wanted to add that to this

907
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,960
question but because I don't 
have like authoritative sources 

908
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,120
on it, I haven't. 
The story is that he spent some 

909
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,880
6-7 years in Pakistan and story 
goes again, I don't know if this

910
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,000
is true or not, that he used to 
sit or basically lounge near 

911
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,800
Barber shops close to where 
Pakistan's nuclear research was 

912
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,720
going on and he used to collect 
the hair clippings of the 

913
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:11,160
scientists who were. 
To see how much radiation 

914
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,240
they're exposed to. 
Yeah, the isotopes could be 

915
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:15,880
detected in the hair. 
So the concentration of isotopes

916
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,880
and the timeline of that could 
be detected from the hair. 

917
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,640
So. 
Apparently he gathered that and 

918
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,480
that was analysed by Indian 
scientists and apparently that 

919
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,400
helped in slowing down their 
nuclear program. 

920
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,280
Again, I don't know if this is 
true do. 

921
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,440
You know what, I don't care if 
it's true or not. 

922
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,520
It's a great fun story, right? 
Like, of course, don't take it 

923
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,440
as fact if it doesn't have any 
corroboration. 

924
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,520
Yeah, it's a great story. 
And here's what I realized 

925
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,120
recently. 
Somebody articulated it to me 

926
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,960
and I was like, oh, this makes 
so much sense as I go during. 

927
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,120
That is a good film. 
And they're like, Durinder is 

928
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,920
not a spy film. 
And it's like, that is so true. 

929
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,200
Durander is just a gang film. 
It's that, yeah, it's a crime. 

930
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:51,920
It's a crime film because he 
doesn't do any spy stuff in it. 

931
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,320
Like literally the only thing he
does is like, I've sent 

932
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,200
information to India. 
You don't even find out how he 

933
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,160
sent it. 
Is doing it via this other guy 

934
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,120
who he leaves one note for. 
Literally the only spy thing we 

935
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,640
see him do is leave a note at 
one point and pass some 

936
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,600
information. 
Unlike other spy films where 

937
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,600
you're like, oh, my God, that is
such a smart way. 

938
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,120
Like when he's just said this, 
even if it's not true, to make 

939
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,000
for such a great novel or for 
such a great movie moment where 

940
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,120
you're like, he figures out how 
to calculate the isotopes and 

941
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,760
the chemicals that they're 
working with with the hair. 

942
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,600
But that is some ingenious 
stuff. 

943
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,120
Yeah. 
And yeah, Ranveer Singh is just 

944
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,520
doing some gang stuff, right? 
Like, oh, let's kill that 

945
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,480
person. 
Let's kill that person, which is

946
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,960
fun for a gang film. 
It's not not a spy film. 

947
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:35,440
The classical the oldest spy 
thing or trick that you can talk

948
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,080
about is clearly depicted in the
movie Disappearing Ink. 

949
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,960
How could you forget that? 
That's the oldest spite rope in 

950
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,800
the book. 
That is so lame. 

951
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,160
Like I think that is one of the 
lamest things that the whole 

952
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,160
movie did, which is like how I'm
going to secretly write in this 

953
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,320
and that disappearing. 
That was super lame. 

954
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,120
But what I do think Duranda 2, 
whatever is called revenge or 

955
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,640
something, it's called from 
whatever rushes and trailers 

956
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,920
that have been visible, you see,
when he's training for it and 

957
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,760
stuff. 
So I guess that might bring in 

958
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,040
the spy angle more of how he 
prepared not being a Baloch. 

959
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,560
How did he prepare to become 
Baloch? 

960
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,440
And you know, the smarts 
required for that. 

961
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,040
But that's when I'm like, OK, 
that's a smart character that I 

962
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,240
am interested to know more 
about. 

963
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,280
I'm fairly sure that they have 
inserted certain things in the 

964
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,600
first movie which will bear 
fruit in the second. 

965
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,640
I hope so. 
First film just felt like a gang

966
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,520
warfare film. 
Yeah, the second film will have 

967
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,720
the spy element, hopefully. 
No, it's a crime film with 

968
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:28,040
spies. 
Yeah, you could. 

969
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,480
It has a spy at the center of 
it, but it's a crime film. 

970
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,160
Yeah, fair enough. 
Good film though. 

971
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,000
And Ajit Doval, very 
interesting. 

972
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,400
Yeah, cool piece of information 
associated to the man. 

973
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,240
Yeah, quite a colorful life is 
LED with all the stories are to 

974
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:43,560
be believed. 
There are some fun stories which

975
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,600
I'm keeping aside for others. 
So moving on to my piece of 

976
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,080
trivia. 
This is gonna be my last 

977
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,640
question though I might have 
final question to tie things up 

978
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,920
together. 
But the last official question 

979
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,760
is again a list. 
Tell me what this is an 

980
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,600
exhaustive list of. 
OK. 

981
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:06,240
What are these categories for? 
OK. 1st is pure, then is best, 

982
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,480
then is super and the last is 
silver tip. 

983
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,480
Pure best, super and silver tip 
correct? 

984
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,680
These are all categories of 
something. 

985
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,720
Yes. 
Not leather, Silver tip. 

986
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,200
This is an exhaustive list. 
These are the four categories 

987
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,440
and I've given it to you in 
increasing order. 

988
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,480
So pure is the lowest and silver
tip is the highest. 4 

989
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,280
categories. 
Pure best super silver tip. 

990
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,400
I need a clue. 
OK, fair enough. 

991
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,880
This has to do with an animal in
a tangential way, or rather in a

992
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,000
in an adjacent way. 
If I was talking about the meat 

993
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,440
cuts in a Tau, right, I'd be 
like, oh, this particular part 

994
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,680
is the sirloin or striploin or 
whatever. 

995
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,760
There are various parts, and 
they're all given various names.

996
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,760
Yeah, this has to do with 
another animal and with a 

997
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,360
different anatomy. 
Not the meat on the animal, but 

998
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,880
a different part of their 
anatomy. 

999
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,640
So animal part of their anatomy,
these are the different 

1000
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,680
gradations of that anatomy. 
It's not a cow you mentioned 

1001
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,680
now. 
Not a cow, not even meat of an 

1002
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,760
animal. 
It's not a cow. 

1003
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,200
It's a different animal. 
It's not meat of that animal. 

1004
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:12,720
It's a different part of that 
body. 

1005
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,600
Is it a Tusk? 
Good guess. 

1006
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,480
I would say. 
Pretty warm, yeah. 

1007
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,200
Getting there, the silver tip 
should lead you there. 

1008
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,360
I think that's how you go to 
Tusk. 

1009
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,120
But silver tip should lead you 
to what it is, which is in Tusk.

1010
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:27,560
Horse tails. 
Oh, very very close. 

1011
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,440
Horse tails are also relevant to
this question, but we aren't 

1012
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,160
gotten there yet. 
Very, very close. 

1013
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,880
You're ractically there? 
What part of the body you're 

1014
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,640
talking about? 
The tail basically. 

1015
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,960
So not the tails, but the trunk.
No, I didn't mean like which end

1016
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,120
of the animal. 
Why were you great, Trunks? 

1017
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,440
Hey, listen, you get great 
tongue, somebody might go to 

1018
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,720
great trunks man like just. 
Hoofs, hoofs, horse hoof. 

1019
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,080
It's not a horse weather I'm so 
sorry. 

1020
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,080
Horse is not the animal in 
question. 

1021
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:53,360
I'll tell you how horse tail 
hair is relevant. 

1022
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,280
OK, but you practically said 
what it was right? 

1023
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,440
Like horse tails. 
So why would you say tail when 

1024
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,400
you hear silver tape? 
What part of the tail? 

1025
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,680
The tip of the tail. 
I mean, like the hair. 

1026
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,400
The tail hair, Yeah. 
Oh, this is fur. 

1027
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,600
Fur, but this is for a specific 
animal. 

1028
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,600
OK, do you know which animal I'm
talking about? 

1029
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,720
Is it like a Beaver or 
something? 

1030
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,600
I'll give it to you. 
It's a badger. 

1031
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:17,680
It's not a Beaver, it's a 
badger. 

1032
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,240
It's a badger. 
OK, OK, a badger. 

1033
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,480
So the pure part of the pure 
graduation is given to the hair 

1034
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:28,800
from the underbelly of a badger.
OK and silver tip is the rarest 

1035
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,160
part of the body or or rather 
the least amount of hair on a 

1036
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:37,880
badger, and it is the most 
coveted part of the fur. 

1037
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,800
So why is it given this 
graduation? 

1038
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,960
Where is the fur of a badger 
used? 

1039
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,480
Hats like caps for caps. 
Decent. 

1040
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,040
Guess what? 
No. 

1041
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,960
Brushes. 
Paint brushes. 

1042
00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:55,360
Warmer, warmer, warmer beard 
brushes. 

1043
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,240
What do you mean by beard brush?
So you get those kind of small 

1044
00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:01,800
things with, you know, natural 
fur hair that you used to comb 

1045
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,280
through your beard. 
Oh, OK, OK, well you're the 

1046
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,360
beard expert, so I don't want to
challenge you too much on it, 

1047
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,440
but I'm not talking about it has
something to do with beards, but

1048
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,080
not a brush, not a beard brush. 
Fake. 

1049
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,520
Beards. 
No, no. 

1050
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,240
What do you do with beards? 
I mean, you haven't done it in a

1051
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:17,080
while, but what do most people 
do with beards? 

1052
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,840
Trim you trim, You trim your 
beard, you trim your beard. 

1053
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,400
You don't even trim it. 
Like OK fine, here you can trim 

1054
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,280
your beard, but what do most 
people do when they want to? 

1055
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,960
Shave their beard. 
Oh, this is a shaving brush. 

1056
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,920
A shaving brush. 
Shaving brushes are 

1057
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,200
traditionally made out of badger
fur badger. 

1058
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:38,480
Oh my God, these are the four 
gradations of badger hair 

1059
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,240
shaving brushes. 
So there are alternatives also, 

1060
00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:44,480
and you very coincidentally 
mentioned one of them. 

1061
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,640
The horse's tail hair can also 
be used in solid brushes, but a 

1062
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,200
badger hair is specifically 
used. 

1063
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,800
I had no idea badger hair is 
specifically used in shaving 

1064
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,200
brushes classically. 
So all shaving brushes, at least

1065
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,440
the classical ones or the 
traditional ones, have only had 

1066
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,840
exclusively badger hair on them 
and these are the gradations of 

1067
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,440
it. 
We start with pure, which is the

1068
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,360
most common form of the hair or 
common hair and then we go to 

1069
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,200
best super and silver tip which 
is the rarest type of badger 

1070
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,640
hair and these are gradations of
shaving brush. 

1071
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,000
OK, I'm waiting for the punch 
line. 

1072
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,040
This is a punch line. 
It's interesting. 

1073
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,040
Did you know that shaving 
brushes are made out of badger 

1074
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,800
hair? 
What do you mean punch line? 

1075
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,120
No, no, I'm guessing that you 
have a reason for talking about 

1076
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,920
Badgers. 
By the way, you should probably 

1077
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,760
mention what a badger is to 
people who don't know. 

1078
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,320
Yeah, fair enough, but do not 
explain exactly what a badger 

1079
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,240
is. 
Best to look it up. 

1080
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:41,960
It kind of is from the skunk 
family or the weasel family, 

1081
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,080
similar to those animals. 
That's what I'm getting off. 

1082
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,600
A quick glance of Wikipedia, 
probably recognize it if you 

1083
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,720
see. 
So yeah, all the shaving brushes

1084
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,520
that you probably see in your 
your Barber shop, if they're not

1085
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,360
made synthetically, because 
there are synthetic ones 

1086
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,360
available as well. 
The traditional ones, the 

1087
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,520
natural ones have always been 
made using badger hair. 

1088
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,280
And I thought that was 
interesting, even if Vineet 

1089
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,720
doesn't agree. 
No, I mean like it's 

1090
00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:05,080
interesting. 
I'm just waiting. 

1091
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,120
I'm just trying to figure out 
what the connection is because 

1092
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,160
I'm fairly sure you've been 
asking these questions with an 

1093
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,240
agenda. 
Hey listen, I think it was 

1094
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,520
revealed in the last episode 
that I do think of the title of 

1095
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,360
the episode beforehand. 
I have an episode title in mind 

1096
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,960
already. 
Do you want to take a guess as 

1097
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,000
to what the episode title is? 
Reduplication. 

1098
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,160
Badger hair 27 dresses 
Listerine. 

1099
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,800
I'm going to give you one quick 
question to wrap all of it 

1100
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,080
together. 
OK, this is a different piece of

1101
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,680
trivia. 
Have you heard of this insanely 

1102
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,960
cool person called Dean 
Muhammad? 

1103
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,600
Dean Muhammad. 
Yeah. 

1104
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,000
Name seems familiar but I can't 
place it. 

1105
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,720
Shampoo. 
Oh my God, that was very quick. 

1106
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,200
Well, Shampoo is the connection 
I was going for. 

1107
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,080
Let me just tell you what the 
piece of trivia since you've 

1108
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,280
ruined this question for me now.
OK, Yeah. 

1109
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,560
Dean Mohammed was a British 
Indian traveller, soldier, 

1110
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,760
surgeon, entrepreneur, and one 
of the most notable early non 

1111
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,720
European immigrants to the 
western world. 

1112
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,560
He introduced Indian cuisine to 
Europe, literally to England. 

1113
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,120
Like he was one of the first few
people to start selling chicken 

1114
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,640
tikka masala. 
Or I mean, I don't know if it 

1115
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,480
was chicken tikka masala 
specifically, but Indian cuisine

1116
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:19,080
to the white people was was 
introduced by Dean Mohammed, who

1117
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,640
was by the way, born in Patna 
and at some point over the 

1118
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,040
course of his life found himself
in the UK. 

1119
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:30,120
What, apart from Indian cuisine,
did Dean Mohammed introduced to 

1120
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,800
Europe or to England 
specifically? 

1121
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,720
Shampoo from shampoo? 
Exactly. 

1122
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,720
The name was very familiar to 
me, but I couldn't place it 

1123
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,160
immediately. 
The idea of shampoo or chumpy 

1124
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,680
was something that Dean 
Muhammad, it's very cool, the 

1125
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,040
number of things. 
He's also, guess what, he's also

1126
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,560
the first Indian to publish a 
book in English. 

1127
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,240
At least some sources give him 
credit for that. 

1128
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,480
So such a interesting variety of
firsts that he has achieved, 

1129
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,720
like the first Indian 
restaurant, Indian cuisine, 

1130
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:03,680
introduction to British people 
and shampoo baths back over 

1131
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,840
there in Europe. 
And also the first book in 

1132
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,160
English written by an Indian 
person. 

1133
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,480
So a lot of first. 
Guy very. 

1134
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,000
Cool, little forgotten in 
history, but worth reading up on

1135
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,600
him. 
A very interesting person from 

1136
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,800
Patna. 
And now do you know what the 

1137
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:18,960
title of the episode is? 
Vineet. 

1138
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,440
Reduplicating hair using 
shampoo. 

1139
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,040
Also known as Lather, rinse, 
repeat. 

1140
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,960
Oh, oh, OK. 
Lather, rinse, repeat. 

1141
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,200
Oh, nice. 
Oh, yeah. 

1142
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,600
Oh, yeah. 
Nice, nice. 

1143
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,160
It's growing on me. 
It's growing on me. 

1144
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,920
Give it a give it a second. 
So this is yeah, yeah, 

1145
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,600
definitely, definitely. 
This is really good. 

1146
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,440
Really good. 
Lather, rinse, repeat. 

1147
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,280
Nice you. 
Lather with the shaving brush, 

1148
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,280
you rinse with the mouthwash, 
and reduplication is nothing but

1149
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,400
repeating the word yeah. 
Very nice. 

1150
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,720
Very nice. 
OK, so as we wind up the 

1151
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,480
episode, the question that I 
asked at the beginning of 

1152
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,120
today's episode, the audience 
question was the rookie, the 

1153
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,040
High Roller, the grease man, the
basher, the eye in the sky, the 

1154
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,720
getaway, the bankroll, the 
inside man, the detail man, the 

1155
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,360
idea man, the getaway connect. 
You said the Getaway twice, 

1156
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,080
right? 
Yes. 

1157
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,400
Interesting. 
Is it like the Ocean's 11? 

1158
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,600
It is Ocean's 11. 
It's Ocean's 11. 

1159
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,520
So you have two Getaway drivers,
hence the getaway. 

1160
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,280
Getaway twice. 
There are two wheel men in the 

1161
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,240
movie, right? 
So that's why. 

1162
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,320
So all of these are the 
descriptions for the characters.

1163
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,160
The rookie was played by Matt 
Damon, so that kind of thing. 

1164
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,240
So these are the descriptions of
the characters who make up the 

1165
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,160
Ocean's 11 highest team. 
You correct that very quickly. 

1166
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,840
So let's wrap it up. 
What's your pop culture 

1167
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,880
recommendation for this week? 
Kangaroo had seen at least one 

1168
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,880
film in today's list of trivia. 
Well, not very common for me, 

1169
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:48,920
but I'll recommend a book and 
that is by perhaps my favorite 

1170
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,440
Indian author. 
High praise, or at least the 

1171
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,560
Indian author that I have read 
the most at least. 

1172
01:00:55,560 --> 01:01:01,160
And that is Ruskin Bond and his 
book Death Under the Deodhars is

1173
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:06,200
a collection of, well, not 
really murder mysteries, but 

1174
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:12,320
murder seems to happen around 
her character if Miss Marple was

1175
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,040
not really a detective but just 
happened to be around. 

1176
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,800
Murders happening, Yeah. 
Miss Papal wasn't really 

1177
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,000
detective, you know. 
She was a just a nosy old lady. 

1178
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,600
But at least she had the skills 
for a detective, or she was just

1179
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,040
like an amateur detective. 
I guess. 

1180
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,560
In this case, this lead 
character who goes by the name 

1181
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,120
of Miss Ripley Bean, doesn't 
even have the skills for it, but

1182
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,760
just has fantastic memory and a 
great storytelling skill. 

1183
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,040
So she'll just be recounting 
stories of crimes and murders 

1184
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,960
that she has seen and that under
the others is a bunch of those 

1185
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:45,080
stories woven together. 
Ruskin Bond just love his 

1186
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,600
writing. 
I don't know what is it about 

1187
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,000
the way he writes. 
It always feels so to you and 

1188
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,640
telling your story. 
I remember reading Room on the 

1189
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,640
Roof for the first time when I 
was a teenage boy and it's about

1190
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,320
a teenage boy. 
It's written by a teenage boy. 

1191
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,000
Ruskin Bond himself has said 
that he has never wanted to 

1192
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,200
revise the book because he wrote
it as a teenager or or very 

1193
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,000
close to being AI think he was 
like 1819 when he wrote it and 

1194
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,520
he didn't want to change the the
tone of that writing, even 

1195
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,960
though he would probably write 
it very differently now in in 

1196
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,280
his later stage of his life. 
So Ruskin Bond, Room on the 

1197
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,400
Roof, Vagrants in the Valley, a 
bunch of a short stories. 

1198
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,960
All of them are so good. 
Death Under the Others is the 

1199
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,560
recent one I read. 
So go read some Ruskin Bond. 

1200
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,840
And he doesn't meet people 
anymore. 

1201
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,840
She's in his 90s. 
Yeah, he used to go to a 

1202
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,480
bookstore. 
Nearby in in. 

1203
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,040
Land or Masuri he used to go 
there some bookstore. 

1204
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,960
I it's been a lifelong dream to 
go meet him and just, you know 

1205
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,640
one of those people you want to 
go say thank you to Ruskin Bond 

1206
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,440
would be that for me. 
So yeah, I hope I get to meet 

1207
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,080
him someday and say to his face.
But if not putting it out of the

1208
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,800
universe. 
Thank you Ruskin for writing 

1209
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,800
great books. 
If I'm correct again, this is 

1210
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,200
just a nitpicky thing. 
He's. 

1211
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,320
Not technically Indian. 
He's a quarter Indian. 

1212
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,840
He's an Indian citizen origin 
not technically. 

1213
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,360
So I'm sorry. 
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 

1214
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,280
Did I say anything? 
About his race, I said an Indian

1215
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,680
author, OK, take care, take 
care, chalo chalo so. 

1216
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,160
My pop culture recommendation 
for this week is this really 

1217
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,080
easily bingeable show I watched 
the other day 6 episodes. 

1218
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,560
It went by in a flash and I 
really enjoyed it. 

1219
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,760
It's called Steel, it's 
available on Prime Video, Amazon

1220
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,400
prime. 
It talks about a heist that 

1221
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:29,200
happens at a big financial firm 
and the lead actress is Sophie 

1222
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,520
Turner AKA Sansa Stark from Game
of Thrones and she practically 

1223
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,240
ate to use the Gen. 
Z alpha terminology. 

1224
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,600
She did a fantastic job. 
I really enjoyed the series, 

1225
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,520
watched it in one setting. 
So I would recommend Steel. 

1226
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:48,360
And then for those of you who 
are not acquainted with some of 

1227
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,600
the other movies that we 
discussed and I would recommend 

1228
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,520
that you go, please watch True 
Lies. 

1229
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:58,120
It is a bombastic a fantastic 
movie. 1 of Ani's best films 

1230
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,840
ever and Terminator 2, Judgement
Day by James Cameron, RRR and 

1231
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,840
Bahubali the Epic by s s 
Rajmouli. 

1232
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,440
I recommend that you watch all 
of these. 

1233
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,440
There are other movies in 
Rajamouli's Oof that you may 

1234
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,040
also enjoy, may may not enjoy, 
but you can go back and watch 

1235
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,080
those as well. 
Some things like Eega Vikram or 

1236
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,080
Hulu and all those right. 
So that's all the time we have 

1237
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,680
for today's episode. 
Thank you all for listening in 

1238
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,040
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1239
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,480
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1240
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,560
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1241
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,120
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1242
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,360
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1243
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,120
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1244
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,920
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1245
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,760
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1246
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,800
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1247
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,760
And that's all the time we have 
for today's episode. 

1248
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,720
See you guys next week trivia. 
I don't know, I have to come up 

1249
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,200
with a new catch phrase now. 
Anything made my? 

1250
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,680
Life harder. 
OK, fine, I'll do it. 

1251
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,000
We're going to edit all of this 
out. 

1252
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,040
We're going to edit all of this 
out because I have enough Flack 

1253
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,400
from people, but how? 
I don't watch the southern 

1254
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:12,640
airport.
