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Welcome to Are You Quizzing Me. 
I am Vineet Nair with my Co host

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Aditya Kashyap. 
This is a quizzing trivia 

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podcast show. 
Join us as we dive deep into 

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history, science, pop culture 
and so much more. 

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Let's get quizzing and we're 
back for episode number 87 of 

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Are You Quizzing me? 
Your favorite quizzing and 

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trivia podcast show. 
Aditya and I are back for 

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another round of quizzing, and 
let's start off today's episode 

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with the audience question. 
This is a question that I asked 

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at the beginning of the episode 
and the answer to which I 

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revealed at the. 
End of it. 

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The question for you, our dear 
audience today is on 8th of May 

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2006, the television station BBC
News 24 wanted to interview 

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technology journalist Guy 
Queenie about the Apple corpse 

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versus Apple computer legal 
dispute. 

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By mistake. 
The BBC LED Karen Bauman 

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interview Guy Gomer, a Congolese
French business studies graduate

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from Brazzaville in the Republic
of Congo, who came to the BBC 

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for a job interview as a data 
cleanser. 

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The incident became one of BBC's
most widely reported bloopers, 

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something which has become very 
ingrained in Northern Day pop 

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culture. 
When introduced by interviewer 

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Karen Baumann as an Internet 
expert, Goma realized that there

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had been a misunderstanding and 
was visibly shocked. 

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Aware that he was on live 
television and not wishing to 

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make a scene, Goma attempted to 
answer questions about the Apple

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call versus Apple computer case 
and it's ramifications. 

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This, as I mentioned, is an 
incident which is ingrained in 

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pop culture. 
My question has however, 

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slightly towards left field who 
owned Apple Cops, which was in a

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legal battle with Apple 
Computers on which Goma was 

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expected to commentate. 
So that's the question that I 

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have for you, my dear audience. 
Hopefully some of you will know 

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the answer. 
So then keep it in mind and see 

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if you're right by the end of 
today's episode. 

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So let's start out regular round
of quizzing. 

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Aditya, why don't you start us 
off with that question? 

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All right. 
Welcome back, Vineet. 

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This is good to be back in our 
regular setting. 

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For our first question, I 
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I've been wanting to ask for a 
very long time. 

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It's been in my backup 
questions, so I'm going to ask 

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it today. 
When Sony Walkman in 2014 

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launched a new model for the 
earphones, they advertised a 

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feature in a very unique way, 
especially in New Zealand, from 

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whatever I could tell. 
So they advertise it in their 

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packaging. 
The packaging was uniquely done.

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To. 
Exemplify or to emphasize upon a

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certain feature of the Walkman. 
What feature was it that this 

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new model of earphones had that 
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with that unique packaging back 
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Zealand, I mean, New Zealand 
part is not really important. 

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It just so happened that it was 
in New Zealand. 

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OK. 
And this is specific to the 

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earphones. 
Yes. 

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And the year again, which year 
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earphones and Walkman, the first
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don't know why it would be 
unique and it's too late for 

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2014 would be noise 
cancellation. 

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Is that the feature? 
No, it's. 

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Not OK, I wasn't expecting that 
to be but OK. 

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So then what else is it got like
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the headphones? 
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don't mean to imply that it was 
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done. 
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models that had this feature. 
It was just something that they 

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were trying to emphasize in 
their new model. 

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It was Sony's W series Walkman, 
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You. 
Know the earphones? 

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Are those the ones with the kind
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So they don't, you don't drop, 
they don't drop out of your ear.

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No. 
Then I'll need a clue, OK? 

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So this particular Walkman was 
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across New Zealand in places 
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Oh was sweat resistant. 
Not too off, but I'm still 

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asking about what is the unique 
packaging feature. 

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You're kind of there in the 
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feature, but I'm asking you 
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that was meant to emphasize this
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Is it like water resistant 
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What? 
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It was a water resistant feature
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emphasize as being the USB for 
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But what was special about the 
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Did they challenge people to 
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that it would not become soggy? 
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I'm not particularly very 
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kind of stuff. 
Soggy earphones I love. 

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I know. 
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I'll take that back. 
I do not love the sound of that 

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at all. 
I have lost an earphone or two 

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to water so no. 
I'm talking about especially. 

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How was this particular thing 
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Like I said, it was sold in 
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should probably give you a hint.
Vending machines in gyms. 

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How was this packaged? 
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can? 
OK, I'll give it to you. 

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It's very close. 
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bottled Walkman. 
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water. 
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earphone inside a bottle of 
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It's pretty cool. 
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pictures of this. 
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earphones inside. 
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guess you throw the water out 
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to drink water which has had 
earphones in it. 

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Yeah, I. 
Don't think you. 

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For weeks or months. 
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selling it in gyms in a vending 
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that these are water resistant. 
As water resistant as it gets. 

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Just immersed in water and not 
soggy. 

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Very nice. 
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pretty creative. 
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concept or at least proof of the
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than, you know, having to be 
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Like you're literally getting it
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Nice question. 
So my next question has. 

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Absolutely nothing to do with 
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So that's going to be my segue 
moving to something from Sony 

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Walkman to something that has 
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it. 
So this is a very simple 

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question and I have to credit 
Annie, who's been our quiz 

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Master one on on our previous 
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So this is the question. 
Please pay very close attention 

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to it. 
AB. 

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This is a name. 
It has two parts, hence AB. 

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AB is the protagonist of the 
book X, which is not a one word 

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title. 
That's just I'm putting X as a 

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placeholder for the name of the 
book, but it's not a one word 

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title. 
Published in 1958 and it has a 

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very famous 1961 film adaptation
which is also has the same name.

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Now when you look at the name 
ABA is the name of a plant 

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associated with a certain 
festival and B is a relatively 

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uncommon name which if split 
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meaning tread softly. 
Can you identify the book and 

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the character? 
The character features in the 

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book and the movie, right? 
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And the last name split into two
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Yes, and the first name, or the 
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plant associated strongly with a
particular festival. 

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Did you mention if this is an 
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mention that? 
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country of publication, no. 
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giveaway? 
Not particularly. 

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I can tell you it's not India. 
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because I was thinking are these
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the tread softly? 
Are they English words or am I 

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supposed to be thinking in some 
other language? 

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No, they are English. 
They are English. 

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OK, got it. 
So tread softly, walk soft, OK? 

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And you have a flower, a plant. 
Plant. 

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Sorry, no context to this at 
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OK, the profession of AB is 
still a point of debate today. 

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Very obscure clue, but if you 
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probably have a hint you are a 
movie buff. 

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So that's why I'm trying to make
it difficult while at the same 

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time make you go oh when you 
hear the answer. 

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If you don't go oh. 
Then I failed. 

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That's a good benchmark. 
Like, how much do you, how long 

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is the awe when you hear the 
answer? 

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Yeah. 
Can you tell me the release date

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of the book and the movie One 
more time? 

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1958 is the book and 61 is the 
film. 

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Oh that's not an easy guess 
then. 

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No man, I have literally no clue
for this. 

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OK, so the movie is remembered 
even today for launching a very 

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famous fashion trend, which is 
it's one of those fashion trends

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which never go out of fashion. 
I would say launching it, but it

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kind of brought it into the 
public consciousness. 

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There's one particular fashion 
choice, or at least fashion. 

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Oh, Holly Golightly, this is 
Breakfast at Tiffany's. 

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Yes, it is. 
It is Holly Golightly for 

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Breakfast at Tiffany's what gave
me away. 

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The little black dress. 
The little black dress, yes. 

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And the clue regarding her 
profession being hotly debated 

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is that there is an ongoing 
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Golightly is an actual 
prostitute or not. 

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Oh, OK. 
But according to Truman Capote 

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himself, who was the author of 
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Golightly is not a prostitute. 
She's more like an American 

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geisha is his way of. 
Oh, OK, OK, OK. 

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Yeah, so props to Annie for this
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He excels at making these kind 
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it, so I had to steal it. 
Thank you, Annie. 

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Yeah, Holly Golightly. 
I like it. 

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That's pretty cool. 
OK, Since we are doing questions

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that people have bestowed upon 
us, I will ask you a question 

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that a regular listener of ours,
Parag, who's also a friend of 

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mine, and I met him very 
recently when I was travelling. 

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It was very funny because he's 
like, you know, it doesn't even 

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feel like that it's been that 
long since I met you because I 

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listened to your podcast very 
regularly. 

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And that was a very sweet thing 
to have said. 

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And I'll tell you another 
interesting thing that happened,

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but I'll tell you after the 
question. 

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So let's do the question 1st. 
And this has an audio component,

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but I'm not going to give it 
upfront, so we'll play the audio

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later. 
Let me just describe it first. 

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Are you familiar with VS 
Naipaul's novel A House for Mr. 

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Biswas? 
Yes. 

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I feel like you already know 
where this question is going. 

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Like I see something in your 
eyes. 

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Yes, I do know where this 
question is going. 

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I already know what the answer 
is. 

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I know what the question is also
going to be, but that's going to

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be too much of A flex, so I'm 
going to sit here and wait for 

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you to ask the question so that 
I can pounce. 

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Vineet, I'll let you do this. 
You deserve it. 

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I will ask the full question. 
No worry. 

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But this is a chance for the 
audience to know just how smart.

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I mean, they already do. 
One more evidence in that. 

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Go for it. 
Tell me what the answer is. 

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OK, the theme for James Bond. 
Oh God, man, you did not 

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disappoint ever. 
This just refuse to let me down.

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I love it. 
I love it. 

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You know, I do this in with the 
quizzes that I host where if I 

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start a question and somebody 
just raises the placard or 

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raises their hand before I've 
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sentence, I'm like, you know 
what? 

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If you give me the right answer 
at this point, I'm going to give

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you all the points. 
Every single point I have is 

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yours and obviously they back 
off because I mean it as a joke.

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I assume that they're not going 
to be able to answer it, but. 

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Vineet. 
I had to mention literally the 

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first sentence in order to 
finish that and you already knew

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the answer. 
Yes it is. 

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There's one theme. 
OK for Parag's question. 

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It is a great question, but I'll
do credit to you if you need. 

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This is too smart VS Nepal's 
novel A House for Mr. Biswas is 

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set in the Indian community in 
Trinidad. 

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There was a musical adaptation 
of it and there was a song that 

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was composed for the musical 
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Good Sign this was composed by 
Monty Norman. 

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Monty Norman's composition 
inspired the iconic theme and 

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that was going to be the 
question of what what did 

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inspire? 
As Vinit already said it way too

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early, It is the James Bond 
theme. 

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The iconic James Bond theme is 
inspired by that. 

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I guess at this point there's 
nothing much to do except play 

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the theme, so here goes. 
I was born with this unlucky 

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sneeze and what is worse, I came
into the world the wrong way 

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round Pond. 
It's all agreed that I'm the 

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reason why my father fell into 
the village bond and drowned. 

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It's a great question Parag. 
The only problem is you can 

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blame Aditya. 
He set it up in a way that I 

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would know the answer. 
If he hadn't said audio clue it 

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would have taken me maybe 
halfway through the question to 

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get to it. 
Still. 

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Quite the flex, Vinit, Come on. 
I get very few of these. 

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I really have to milk every oz. 
Of you sure, you sure you 

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deserve it. 
And the lovely thing is that 

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Parag mentioned and he set up 
this question to me. 

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And this was in person very 
often when we receive questions,

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it's on e-mail or messages. 
But I met him and he was like, 

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oh, I have a question for you 
and you should ask this in the 

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next episode. 
I was like, OK, great, hit me 

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with it. 
And he plays the music and 

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initiate took me like solid 10 
seconds into the music to even 

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get because it, it sounds so 
different from what the team is 

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obviously. 
And it uses very classical 

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Indian instruments. 
So very unexpected, but I loved 

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it. 
And that is bad sign, good sign.

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The song that we just played for
you, which is from the musical 

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adaptation of VS Naipaul's novel
A House for Mr. Biswas, composed

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by Monty Norman and obviously 
inspired the James Bond theme. 

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Great question, great question. 
Thank you. 

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And please send in more 
questions. 

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You know, you can also be my 
friend and give me questions. 

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You know, I mean, I don't know 
why people don't do that. 

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I would like to stump this 
fellow once in a while. 

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Doesn't happen that often. 
You're not stumped. 

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I don't get, Oh, you're not even
stumped. 

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Oh, OK. 
By the way, I was at a party at 

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a friend's place at the house 
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And this guy looks at me and I 
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So I'm just like a bunch of 
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And then you're only a couple of
people at the party and I'm just

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mingling around meeting some old
friends. 

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And this guy looks at me and 
he's he's looking at me for a 

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while. 
And then he's like, hey, are you

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Aditya? 
And I was like, yeah, I was 

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like, do you do some stand up 
and stuff? 

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I was like, oh, is my stand up 
gotten popular? 

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Because I've not read. 
Wow. 

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There is no one in the stand up 
community. 

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And it turns out he was just 
checking because he's like, are 

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you the one who does? 
Are you questioning me? 

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The podcast, that's how he knew 
me. 

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And the stand up part was just 
because I think he had seen it 

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on my profile at some point. 
So I managed to meet a lovely, 

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lovely friend of the show, Bala.
And Bala was at this podcast and

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he's like, Oh my God, I'm such a
huge fan. 

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And and he apparently listens to
the podcast on his commute every

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day to work. 
So yeah, it was lovely meeting 

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somebody out of the blue who had
heard of the podcast. 

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You know what? 
If you ever see Vineet or me 

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anywhere, please do do tell us. 
If you do listen to podcast, 

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it's lovely too. 
Unless you're somebody who 

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visits a laboratory quite 
frequently, the chances of 

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running into me are not that 
high. 

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That is the other reason is also
he's like I have visited both 

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your profiles on Instagram and 
vid doesn't really post anything

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but you do so that's why I 
recognize you. 

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No, because my Last Post I think
was from 8:00 or 10 years ago. 

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That's pretty cool of you, 
actually, yeah. 

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I know because I just don't get 
Instagram. 

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I am that grouchy old man now. 
I've admitted it that I have 

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grown old, but I just don't get 
Instagram in the way that some 

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of my younger colleagues and 
younger friends do. 

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So I find it difficult to engage
over there. 

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LinkedIn is something that I am 
on Facebook. 

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I have a profile which is again 
dormant. 

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As you can see, my social media 
game is extremely bad. 

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I should probably start posting 
something, but then my question 

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is what do I post? 
I don't want to post photographs

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of myself. 
That seems a little nasty. 

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So I don't know share it or 
anybody who actually does that 

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on Instagram, which is that I'm 
not comfortable doing it so. 

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Fair enough, fair enough. 
Well, I'm glad at least I had my

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pictures up there because I got 
to meet this person. 

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So thank you. 
Thank you so much, Bala, for 

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reaching out. 
And he did mention that he 

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wanted to actually send us a 
question or two. 

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So while this is a reminder, if 
you do have a question, you can 

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send it to Vineet. 
Yes please. 

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Well, if you feel like my 
profile on Instagram is better, 

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please send it to me. 
I would not complain one bit. 

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And that's probably why people 
do send you questions. 

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They must be looking at my 
profile and like Burger hasn't 

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posted anything in 2015 years or
10 years something. 

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Probably not a good person to 
send a question to. 

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Yeah, but hey, if you send it on
the e-mail, Vineet will 

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definitely read it. 
So that's that's that's the out 

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right there. 
So yeah, thank you to two of 

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these friends of the podcast, 
both Parag and Bala. 

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Yeah, shout out to Parag and 
Bala. 

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All right, Vineet, on to you. 
OK, moving from the literature 

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from the mid 20th century to 
something that's quite older, 

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the question goes as follows. 
Listen carefully. 

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Its origins stretch back to 
Roman time. 

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It was first documented in the 
Libere Medicinalis, that is the 

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book of medicine written by 
Quintus Serenus Simonicus, who 

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lived in the 2nd century AD and 
was physician to the Roman 

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emperor Cracalia. 
Simonicus was actually executed 

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by Caracaria IN212AD as part of 
a broader purge, but before then

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he suggested using X or the term
that he had coined as a cure or 

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prevention against catching 
malaria, which he called 

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Hermitageus. 
Londoners used to paint this 

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term in front of their doors to 
ward of the plague in the 17th 

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century. 
What am I talking about? 

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Sorry, was the name of the 
person again. 

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Written by Quintus Serenus 
Simonicus in the 2nd century. 

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AD, 2nd century AD and then the 
plague thing that you mentioned 

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was? 
Yes, he coined this term as a 

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cure to cure our prevention 
against catching malaria. 

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Londoners used to paint this in 
front of their doors to ward off

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the plague in the 17th century. 
So I guess this doesn't probably

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make a whole lot of sense, but 
welcome. 

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No. 
Is it by any chance the 

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etymology for welcome? 
No. 

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OK. 
I'll give you my clue I can give

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you is that the etymology for 
this term is quite disputed as 

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well. 
This is what we've actually 

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have. 
But there are other theories for

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the etymology of this term, most
of them going back much farther.

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Is this something similar to 
welcome? 

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Like is it something that you'll
see on doors still or something 

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like that? 
No. 

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Well, you may see it in one or 
two specific places somewhere in

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the world. 
That's an unnecessary clue. 

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So just forget I ever said that.
It's not going to help you. 

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Yeah, it doesn't help me. 
You don't see it in front of 

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doors or anything anymore. 
OK, wow. 

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OK again, I'm pretty stumped. 
I have no idea. 

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OK, so another clue I can give 
you is the source of this 

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trivia. 
Where did I get it from? 

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OK. 
I got it from a book written by 

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JK Rowling. 
OK, the the book itself has the 

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trivia in it, or you found the 
word in it and then you. 

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No, I found the trivia in a book
that was. 

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To ward off malaria. 
Currently the Harry Potter 

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novels because I would remember 
this piece of trivia if it was 

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in the Harry Potter novels. 
Is it Harry Potter by any 

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chance? 
Related to Harry Potter. 

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Oh, OK, so one of those 
compendiums. 

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OK, something that's on one of 
the doors in on Gryffindor or 

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Hogwarts or Slytherin, I don't 
know. 

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Yeah, I have no clue. 
This is one of those books which

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is written I think Co written by
JK Rowling and couple of others 

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and this had specifically to 
deal with spells and chunks. 

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Oh. 
Oh, so Alohomora, is it like you

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open the door or? 
Good guess that you're thinking 

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of Alohomora, but it's not. 
For those non Harry Potter 

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listeners of our podcast, 
Alohomora is the spell used to 

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open closed doors. 
Hence why this is a good guess, 

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but unfortunately it's not. 
Because the other word was the 

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one that used to lock the door, 
and I'm guessing that also 

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probably is the might fit the 
logic. 

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No, forgot what that word is. 
Wow. 

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It's been a while since I read 
Harry Potter. 

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I guess Wow spells. 
Which is not Aloha Mora. 

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Something to banish, something 
to prevent, something to stop, 

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defend. 
Oh, I don't know. 

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I don't know. 
Stupefier defender was to break 

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it to kind of. 
Defender should break it. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, and the spell for locking 

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a door was Cola Portos, by the 
way. 

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Coloportis OK, All right. 
No, I I don't know. 

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I don't know. 
OK, one last clue would be that 

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this is possibly the first spell
that Harry Potter is ever faced 

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with. 
Oh, faced with I mean one of the

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iconic first spells is 
Wingardium Leviosa, but I don't 

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know if that doesn't make any 
sense. 

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No, no. 
OK, the first spells, that's the

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one that is OK. 
So if that is the spell, what 

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would be the actual term? 
Because here we're talking about

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real world. 
Oh, no way, Abracadabra. 

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Is that where it comes from? 
Yes. 

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Oh. 
So yeah, there as I mentioned, 

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there is some disputed 
etymology. 

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A lot of people think that 
abracadabra has its etymology 

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from anamic or early much 
earlier languages. 

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But factually what we know is 
that it was first documented in 

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a book called Liber Medicinalis,
where Quintus Serenus Simonicas 

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had coined it as, I don't know, 
a word that would somehow 

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prevent from catching malaria. 
But then they did think it was 

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because of bad air. 
So, you know, expelling good air

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by saying abracadabra would 
probably help you not catch 

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malaria. 
It doesn't make any sense. 

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Anyway. 
During the 17th century 

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Londoners used to paint 
abracadabra on the doors to ward

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off the plague. 
So it's like a 17th century 

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English version of OS3 Kalana. 
OK, interesting. 

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So it's abracadabra. 
You did get a pretty long O from

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me, so that that was an 
interesting question. 

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I did have a long prolonged O. 
Oh, OK, cool, cool. 

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I enjoyed that question. 
Well, I will move from that 

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question since you did mention 
something to deal with 

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epidemics. 
I'm going to talk about 

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something very similar. 
Wow, I love this was a very 

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great segue in this country, and
the country shall remain unnamed

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for now. 
In this country, X, in 1938, a 

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national order mandated 
something to deal with the 

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outbreak of cholera. 
It has now become iconic as a 

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symbol of this country, uniquely
to this country, if I may say 

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so, actually something that 
people associate almost uniquely

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to this country and is also a 
massive tourist attraction. 

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What was this national order in 
1938 in the country X that was 

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mandating something to deal with
an outbreak of cholera? 

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Something to deal with an 
outbreak of cholera, and it's 

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become a symbol of the country. 
Yes. 

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Wow. 
OK, OK. 

453
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:53,640
Dealing with cholera, obviously 
you want clean water, but it's a

454
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,200
symbol of the country and it's 
uniquely a symbol of the 

455
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,240
country. 
Cholera is a fibria, cholera 

456
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,360
bacteria that spreads through 
the water. 

457
00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:05,800
It's highly contagious, causes a
lot of diarrhoea. 

458
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,880
And for some reason, a measure 
to stop it, a law to stop it, 

459
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:16,240
has become a law has become the 
symbol of the country. 

460
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,600
A little weird, but. 
A symbol as in like it's, it's a

461
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,800
massive tourist attraction. 
If you see it, you're like, oh, 

462
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,840
this is that country X 
immediately. 

463
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,520
Oh OK, so the law basically 
caused the construction of 

464
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:36,040
something which is now a big 
symbol of the country, but it 

465
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,400
was constructed to back a 
cholera? 

466
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,400
I have absolutely no clue. 
OK, I'll give you a clue. 

467
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,800
What if I told you the name of 
the Prime Minister who gave this

468
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,920
order? 
Maybe that lead you to the 

469
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,080
country as well. 
Wait a second. 

470
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,800
Suddenly a thought occurred to 
me, but I don't know if it could

471
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,720
be because I'm just thinking 
slightly laterally. 

472
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,440
Is it like Christ the Redeemer 
in Brazil or something? 

473
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,640
Oh, that's a great guess. 
But no, it's not. 

474
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,080
It's not. 
OK, so give me the clue then. 

475
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,320
The name of the Prime Minister 
who did this was Ionis Metaxas 

476
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,640
Ionis Ionis. 
There will be a Greek or Cypriot

477
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,280
name. 
It's Greek. 

478
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,440
It's Greek, yes. 
So the country in question is 

479
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,960
Greece I. 
Think Greece is one of the 

480
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:28,720
oldest countries with a lot of, 
you know, iconic iconology, to 

481
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,640
be honest. 
And I don't know White Houses. 

482
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,400
Hey, there we go. 
That's perfect. 

483
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,440
Yes. 
So, OK, so this is one of the 

484
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,240
reasons, but it is a big reason,
white and blue, obviously 

485
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,120
colours of the Greek flag. 
It has been colours of the 

486
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:48,000
Hellenic Republic for a while. 
It represents the sky and the 

487
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,080
ocean, which is which is 
basically what surrounds Greece,

488
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,480
right? 
So it is meant to symbolize 

489
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,120
that. 
As it turns out, they made it 

490
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,440
mandatory for the the island 
houses to be painted in blue and

491
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,000
white because there was also an 
outbreak of cholera happening 

492
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,560
and whitewashing their homes was
supposed to help prevent or at 

493
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,080
least curb the outbreak. 
And I'll tell you why. 

494
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,520
Because the whitewashed houses 
used to paint used to contain 

495
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,320
limestone, which is a powerful 
disinfectant. 

496
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,880
And there were no other 
disinfectant as commonly 

497
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,080
available at that point of time.
So the citizens whitewashed 

498
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,320
their homes to help sanitize 
them and reduce the spread of 

499
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,800
cholera. 
And it so happened that they 

500
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,600
were like white and then blue 
became the colours, which is 

501
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,680
what is iconic for a lot of the 
Greek islands, especially 

502
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,880
Santorini, that people very 
often flock to when they go to 

503
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,800
Greece. 
Very nice. 

504
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:44,640
So yeah, that that a little bit 
of a epidemic related trivia to 

505
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,360
counter yours. 
OK. 

506
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,120
Yeah, that's nice. 
That's nice. 

507
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:53,760
And it's a complete TI for me 
and frankly a very wild guess, 

508
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,040
which fortunately for me came to
be true. 

509
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,120
OK, OK, I'm going to give you a 
couple of names, right? 

510
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,360
And I'm not giving you a segue 
this time. 

511
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,160
You know what? 
I am switching it up. 

512
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,720
No sequence. 
I'm going to give you a list of 

513
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,360
names, and I want you to tell me
what's the common number. 

514
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,520
And I also want your word that 
you will not find me and track 

515
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,040
me down and kill me. 
So the list of names goes as 

516
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,400
follows. 
Lil Wayne, the rapper, Prince 

517
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,400
the musician. 
Caligula, the Roman emperor. 

518
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:36,720
Napoleon, the French Emperor, 
Kyodor Dostoevsky, the Russian 

519
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:42,320
writer, and Theodore Roosevelt. 
OK, there's one more name on the

520
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,800
list, but that's going to be the
clue that I would probably give 

521
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,040
you, so. 
And I'm supposed to find the. 

522
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,400
What's the common thread among 
these people? 

523
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,280
Wow, did they all have the 
letter O in their names? 

524
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,920
No, like Lil Wayne. 
You can pronounce it Wayne. 

525
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,080
OK, I'm kidding. 
All right. 

526
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,800
OK, Now, that was obviously a 
terrible guess. 

527
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,080
Could you repeat the list again?
So there was Lil Wayne, there 

528
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,360
was Roosevelt, there was 
Napoleon, there was Dostovsky. 

529
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,920
And. 
OK, so the list goes on as 

530
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,920
follows. 
Lil Wayne Prince, the multi 

531
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,880
talented musician Caligula, the 
deportion of Roman Emperor 

532
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,440
Fyodor Dostovsky, the very 
serious and depressing Russian 

533
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,840
writer, Napoleon, the not so 
vertically challenged French 

534
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,440
Emperor and Theodol Roosevelt 
who carried a big stake. 

535
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,040
Lil Wayne is on this list that 
is really confusing me. 

536
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,160
Obviously this is a non 
exhaustive list, I wanted 

537
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:49,560
somebody who's quite modern. 
Oh, I have no idea what connects

538
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,640
these people. 
No, wow, OK, no, nothing fits 

539
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,160
the bill because Lil Wayne is 
really throwing me off. 

540
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,960
I was trying to think of names 
and etymologies to the names and

541
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,840
something like that. 
Lil Wayne is obviously. 

542
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,080
No, no, this is something common
to these people themselves. 

543
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:01,960
It's nothing to do with the 
name. 

544
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,200
That's my clue to you. 
Common to these people 

545
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,680
themselves. 
There can't be an award that 

546
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,080
connects all of them. 
There can't be AI. 

547
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,640
Can't imagine there are places 
named after Lil Wayne. 

548
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,440
No, there are not. 
At least I hope not. 

549
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,480
Yeah, it will be a strange 
thing. 

550
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,120
Sure, why not? 
Good for him. 

551
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,120
But. 
And you said there's one more 

552
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,080
name that you haven't mentioned.
Yeah, there are a couple more 

553
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,720
names. 
There are two specific names 

554
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,040
which would probably give you a 
big clue, so those I'm keeping 

555
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,000
to the very end. 
But there are other names I can 

556
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,960
give you. 
Hugo Weaving, who played the 

557
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,520
agent on The Matrix. 
Yeah, right. 

558
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,960
And Elrond on Lord of the Rings.
He also belongs on the list. 

559
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,840
Danny Glover, famous actor who's
too old for the shit. 

560
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,080
Lethal. 
Weapon. 

561
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,800
Yeah, Lethal Weapon, Danny 
Glover, he's also on the list. 

562
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,840
Lenin would also find himself on
this list. 

563
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,360
So would Pope Pius the 9th. 
But that's no clue at all for 

564
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,720
you. 
None of these are clues. 

565
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,440
These are all people from all 
over the place. 

566
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,560
OK, Susan. 
Boyle, the singer who came to 

567
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,000
attention during the Britain's 
Got Talent show. 

568
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,520
The one she had the very frumpy 
appearance and then she opened 

569
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,320
her mouth and people were 
entranced. 

570
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,720
On an iconic, iconic moment, and
I still remember that. 

571
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,280
Oof, goosebumps. 
Wait, this, this is interesting 

572
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,760
because Susan Boyle was, I 
think, the first woman you 

573
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,880
mentioned. 
And somehow it might lead me to,

574
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,320
I don't know, is it some sort of
a physical condition that they 

575
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,640
all share? 
OK, closer. 

576
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,480
Like I said, I have two more 
names, and those names will 

577
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,320
probably give you a big clue as 
to what this is. 

578
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:50,280
So Susan Boyle. 
I feel like I know Susan Boyle 

579
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,800
had something that she was 
dealing with on the medical 

580
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,560
front, so. 
She had multiple. 

581
00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:00,240
OK, so but this would be very 
like thyroidism, hypothyroidism 

582
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,760
or something like that they got.
A little more specific, do you 

583
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,280
want the last two names? 
OK, hit me. 

584
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,000
OK. 
Do you want them together or do 

585
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,440
you want me to give them one 
after the other? 

586
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,280
So to give you a better chance, 
or at least be a better chance. 

587
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,560
Give me one at a time. 
OK, the first one I'm going to 

588
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,080
give you is Joan of Arc. 
Joan. 

589
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,560
Of Arc OK, second woman 
mentioned so far Joan of Arc? 

590
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,160
No. 
I have no clue as to what 

591
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,720
medical condition affected Joan 
of Arc. 

592
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,120
OK, so then the last person, and
probably if you know the piece 

593
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,720
of trivia, this is probably the 
one that you will give it away, 

594
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,280
is Flojo Florence Griffith 
Joyner, the fastest woman ever 

595
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,600
recorded. 
I am familiar with her. 

596
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,200
This is the back of my head. 
I feel like I know this because 

597
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,320
especially since you said Susan 
Boyle, it's just been like Danny

598
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,280
Glover, so I feel like. 
I would probably ask you to 

599
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,200
focus on Joan of Arc and Flojo. 
Those are the ones that probably

600
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,480
should point you most closely to
the answer. 

601
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,720
Juno Park is somehow not ringing
any bells. 

602
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,080
Frojo. 
Does Susan bond also? 

603
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,120
I feel like I read this when I 
first encountered her on social 

604
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,080
media. 
Say something. 

605
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,760
It's not dyslexia. 
No I don't think this is 

606
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,120
dyslexia. 
Is it by any chance epilepsy? 

607
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,280
It is epilepsy, yes. 
OK. 

608
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,400
All right. 
These are all people who have 

609
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,640
suffered from epilepsy at some 
point in their lives. 

610
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,600
Lil Wayne does, Prince did and 
kept it a secret for the time. 

611
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,800
Caligula. 
Yes, Dostoevsky. 

612
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,920
Napoleon is also thought to have
suffered from epilepsy. 

613
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,560
Danny Glover did for a period of
his life. 

614
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,840
So did Theodore Roosevelt by the
way. 

615
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,640
Not a fact that many people 
know. 

616
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,120
And the reason I was pointing 
towards Joan of Arc and Flo Jo 

617
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,640
is because a lot of people 
suspect that Joan of Arc's 

618
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,880
visions were actually the effect
of a certain type of epilepsy. 

619
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:11,600
And Flojo, or Florence Florence 
Griffith Joyner, developed 

620
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,800
epilepsy in her 30s and she 
famously died in her sleep after

621
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,719
she suffered a grand Mal seizure
while asleep and died from 

622
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,520
asphyxiation. 
Oh, that's, that's a shame, OK. 

623
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,440
These are all very famous people
who unfortunately did suffer 

624
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,360
from epilepsy, but not something
that we may immediately know 

625
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,000
about. 
And I was very surprised when I 

626
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,159
heard about Napoleon and Svidor 
Dostevsky and Lil Wayne. 

627
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,199
That should have killed me in 
Caligula and Napoleon. 

628
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:48,560
I doubt hypothyroidism would be 
a diagnosis that would fit those

629
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,880
people. 
Yeah, fair enough. 

630
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,280
OK, But great. 
I love that question. 

631
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,360
Oh, epilepsy connects these 
people. 

632
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,679
I, I think it's just because of 
Susan Boyle, because I think I 

633
00:34:56,679 --> 00:35:00,080
might have read it somewhere. 
Very cool, Very, very cool. 

634
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,720
That brings me to my question 
regarding another famous man. 

635
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:08,600
And this particular man has been
featured on our podcast before. 

636
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,840
We are talking of PT Barnum, and
PT Barnum had something called 

637
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:21,280
the Barnum's American Museum. 
It was very popular and there 

638
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,880
were exhibits of, you know, the 
those, those attractions of 

639
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,120
quote UN quote exotic people, I 
guess. 

640
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,000
You can say freaks. 
No, that's what they called 

641
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,560
them. 
Let me clarify. 

642
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,400
That's what they were called 
during that period of time. 

643
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,440
Time. 
It's not like you're saying that

644
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,600
people are freaks now. 
Yeah, quote UN quote freaks. 

645
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,120
You're right. 
That's how they were called and 

646
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,760
that's the name that was given 
to them at that point. 

647
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,120
And they were a massive 
attraction. 

648
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:51,120
So various people like somebody 
who had dwarfism or this woman 

649
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,040
who had a beard, the bearded 
lady, the bearded lady, 

650
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,760
conjoined twins, all of these 
different individuals were were 

651
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,440
exhibited, as it were. 
So PC Parnam realized that 

652
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,240
people were lingering too long 
at his exhibits. 

653
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,600
What was his solution to this 
particular problem? 

654
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,840
What signage did he put up to 
deal with this problem of people

655
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,440
just lingering around not 
letting others come in and and 

656
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,520
enjoy the well whatever the 
display? 

657
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,280
So what? 
What did he put up? 

658
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,840
OK, this is again going to be 
something clever. 

659
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,360
Which I'm not going to be able 
to guess. 

660
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,360
Did he say that they would be 
charged for every minute they 

661
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,280
stand and watch? 
That would be that would be kind

662
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,800
of PT Badam style. 
But no, it wasn't the case that 

663
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,800
he was going to charge them. 
He just put up a very simple 

664
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,480
signage to direct the crowds in 
a certain direction, to direct 

665
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,400
the crowds towards the exit 
actually. 

666
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,880
OK. 
And what did you put up to 

667
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,240
direct the crowds towards the 
exit? 

668
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,480
Did he promise that there was 
going to be another attraction? 

669
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,760
Yeah, in a way, that's what it 
would seem like to an audience 

670
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,640
who was not familiar with what 
certain words meant. 

671
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,880
OK. 
It's pretty close to the answer 

672
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,920
I'll I'll give it to you if you 
don't get it in the next few 

673
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,040
tries. 
It's going to be some kind of 

674
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,320
word play. 
Knowing you, it's going to be 

675
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,080
some kind of word play. 
It's going to be really funny. 

676
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,560
In this scenario, it's actually 
not a word plan. 

677
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,360
It's funny because of just what 
he did, but there's no word play

678
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,440
in this is just happens to be 
something. 

679
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,560
Something this way. 
I think he would have put 

680
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,760
something this way or something.
I don't know. 

681
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,600
I'm just. 
This is way too specific of a 

682
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,640
word choice that that's unfair 
to you. 

683
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,840
It basically said this way to 
the egress and egress obviously 

684
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,640
means exit, but people not 
knowing that egress was another 

685
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,440
word for exit followed the 
signage thinking that there was 

686
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,400
another exhibit waiting for them
in outside of that particular 

687
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:51,040
door and ended up outside. 
So he just put up signs and said

688
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,240
this way to the egress. 
Very PT Barnum. 

689
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,200
Yeah, exactly. 
I thought it was really funny so

690
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,480
I had to include it. 
That is PT Barnum related trivia

691
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,240
I we could actually do if you 
ever do like a super cut of are 

692
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:05,760
episodes of different topics. 
I think there could be just a PT

693
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,400
Barnab episode we have done and.
I think Theodore Roosevelt also 

694
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,840
appears quite often on our 
questions. 

695
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,120
Yeah. 
That he does. 

696
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,600
He does. 
He does Napoleon as well. 

697
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,000
Yeah. 
We could actually have like, 

698
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,880
just an episode dedicated to 
these people. 

699
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,680
OK, that was nice. 
So moving on. 

700
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,360
From. 
Certain turn of the century 

701
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,760
individuals to another turn of 
the century individual Born in 

702
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,680
1856. 
X was a lawyer who completed a 

703
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,720
PhD from Johns Hopkins. 
X was a prolific author and 

704
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:41,320
ended up as President of 
Princeton University. 

705
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,960
X's book, History of the 
American People, was used as a 

706
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,440
source material for a movie, Y, 
which was the first movie to be 

707
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,960
screened in the White House. 
Y was almost single handedly 

708
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,600
responsible for the rapid rise 
of a fraternal social club first

709
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:05,040
established in 1865. 
I want you to identify XY and Z.

710
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,240
1856, right? 
Born in 1856, X was a lawyer, 

711
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,280
completed a PhD from Johns 
Hopkins, ended up as a president

712
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,520
of Princeton University. 
At one point, X's book History 

713
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,080
of the American People was used 
as one of the source materials 

714
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,200
for a movie. 
Why? 

715
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,040
Why was the first movie to be 
screened at the White House and 

716
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,960
why was also almost single 
handedly responsible for the 

717
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,080
rapid rise our fraternal social 
club first established in 1865? 

718
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:43,920
I want you to identify XY and Z.
You said lawyer Johns Hopkins 

719
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,800
implies America. 
Yeah, we're going to assume it 

720
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,840
is a politician because lawyers 
ended up following that path. 

721
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:57,280
1856 until unless it's a 
precedent, it would be. 2. 

722
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,320
Out of my reach, so I'm going to
guess something like 1856, 

723
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,600
probably in the early 20th 
century. 

724
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,440
Is it by any chance Teddy 
result? 

725
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,720
No, it can't be Teddy result. 
I wouldn't do that to you that 

726
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,520
haven't. 
It's just to like Theodore 

727
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,880
Roosevelt coming in two 
questions on the same episode. 

728
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,080
Yeah, OK. 
He is one of my favorite people.

729
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,640
I have lots of trivia about 
Teddy which I've not brought to 

730
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,000
the podcast, so there is. 
More to. 

731
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,120
Plumb through Teddy's life, but 
let's leave Teddy aside for the 

732
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,520
moment. 
OK, then I'd have to venture a 

733
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,640
guess. 
First movie. 

734
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,960
Actually the first movie. 
This is something I have I 

735
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:44,400
remember from Black Klansmen 
where he's pretending to be a 

736
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,560
KKK member. 
This black guy's pretending to 

737
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,520
be. 
It's based of a true story and I

738
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,000
think they speak of Birth of a 
Nation. 

739
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,680
In that side is Birth of a 
nation. 

740
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,440
I remember this was a yes. 
OK, so the movie Why is Birth of

741
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,400
a Nation? 
OK. 

742
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,760
Which is a very famous movie, 
and it was the first movie to be

743
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,160
screened at the White House. 
An unfortunate choice, but yeah.

744
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,040
So then what was the Fraternal 
Social Club first established in

745
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,800
1865? 
What is Z then? 

746
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,160
Z 1865 Club that was 
established. 

747
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,760
Fraternal Social Club 
established in 1865. 

748
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,320
And but wasn't this guy born in 
1856? 

749
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,480
Yeah, the guy was born in 1856, 
but the movie was responsible 

750
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,240
for the rapid rise of a 
fraternal social club, which 

751
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:35,800
was. 
First of 1865. 

752
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,160
Sorry. 
Right, right, right. 

753
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:37,920
I missed that. 
I missed that. 

754
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,120
OK, so then Rapid Rise is the Ku
Klux Klan. 

755
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:43,800
Yes. 
So it is the KKK. 

756
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:50,120
So you have both of the Nation 
incredibly racist movie and the 

757
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:55,640
Ku Klux Klan, which is currently
having a lot of competition for 

758
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,240
racism. 
So with the KKK. 

759
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,960
Wow. 
Oh boy, that's such an 

760
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,800
unfortunate piece of, well, I 
guess trivia in this case. 

761
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,320
So who's who's ex? 
That's actually stumping me 

762
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,320
completely. 
Am I right in assuming that it 

763
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,720
is a prominent politician, 
presumably a president? 

764
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,560
It is a prominent politician, 
yes. 

765
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,920
A president. 
Yes. 

766
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,000
Oh boy. 
OK, President 1856. 

767
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,880
I'd have to assume this is 
Garfield. 

768
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,240
No, not James Garfield, no. 
So think of somebody who's very 

769
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,280
bookish. 
Early 20th century, apart from 

770
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,000
the Roosevelt, Hoover. 
Hoover was around that time, I 

771
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,400
think. 
No, actually Hoover was much 

772
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,200
later. 2 presidents actually. 
Oh, so not that far apart. 

773
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,920
OK, 2 presidents from somewhere 
in the in the vicinity, is it? 

774
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,320
There's there's that guy. 
I always think of him as 

775
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,720
associated to this Larry 
McKinley. 

776
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,240
No, no, no, McKinley was before.
OK, McKinley was just prior to 

777
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:06,360
Roosevelt. 
OK, so it's after Roosevelt but 

778
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,680
before Hoover. 
Yes, I will give you one clue. 

779
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,080
When I was a kid, we had these, 
you know, kind of Model UN 

780
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,520
things, right? 
That means, yeah. 

781
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,400
Part of that was learning the 
history of the United Nations 

782
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,280
and whatnot, right? 
So almost every history of the 

783
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,520
United Nations starts with the 
fact that the United Nations 

784
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,360
came into being, and the reason 
for it being structured the way 

785
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,720
it was was because of the 
failure of an organization that.

786
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,400
League of Nations. 
Either League of Nations. 

787
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,200
Exactly. 
This person was practically 

788
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,560
responsible for the League of 
Nations. 

789
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,760
Wilson Wilson. 
Woodrow Wilson. 

790
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,440
Woodrow Wilson. 
Yes. 

791
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,280
Yes, yes. 
OK, that I remember. 

792
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,680
Yes. 
So all right, all right. 

793
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,120
Putting it all together, Woodrow
Wilson was a very learned and 

794
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,520
prolific author lawyer who was 
president of Princeton 

795
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,960
University prior to becoming 
president of the United States. 

796
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,640
His book The History of the 
American People, when it was 

797
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,280
released, was quite well 
received in many circles. 

798
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,920
But it's like one of those Manoj
Night Shyamalan movies where 

799
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,920
everything's fine until there's 
a twist at the end. 

800
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,640
So like, the book is completely 
fine, but until he kind of 

801
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,680
portrays the Ku Klux Klan as 
being the saviors of the people 

802
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,040
in the movie Birth of the 
Nation, which was a silent 

803
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,600
movie, by the way, it was a 
silent movie. 

804
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,560
And in that movie, there were 
kind of cue cards or text cards 

805
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,480
which popped up because of the 
silent movie, right? 

806
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,120
So there's no dialogue. 
So to kind of propel the story 

807
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,320
along, they have these cue text 
cards, and many of them were 

808
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,640
practically taken verbatim from 
Woodrow Wilson's book A History 

809
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,160
of the American People. 
The movie was incredibly 

810
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,680
controversial even for its own 
time. 

811
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,840
Many states wanted to kind of 
ban it, but because there was 

812
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,840
this question about censorship, 
as in how much should be 

813
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,000
censored and what should be free
speech and whatnot. 

814
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,560
And it was only after Wilson 
himself screened it at the White

815
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,480
House and gave it a review. 
The other state, all the states,

816
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,440
were like, yeah, if it's good 
enough for our president, it 

817
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,640
should be good enough for us. 
And that movie was single 

818
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,720
handedly responsible for the 
rapid rise of the Ku Klux Klan. 

819
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:19,680
I would like to apologize to 
anybody who feels offended with 

820
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,720
my description of the Ku Klux 
Klan as a fraternal social club.

821
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,640
That was the description of the 
Ku Klux Klan when it was first 

822
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:35,240
established in 1865. 
But today I think it would be 

823
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:38,280
better to call it as white 
supremacist, far right terrorist

824
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,160
organization or hate group. 
I don't say, I won't say to be 

825
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,280
fair to Woodrow Wilson, but 
apparently later on he did kind 

826
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,680
of express his horror at what 
the Ku Klux Klan was supposed to

827
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,760
be and what it turned out to do 
and turned out to be. 

828
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,920
Bare minimum, at least, I guess.
All right, pretty cool piece of 

829
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,520
trivia. 
I would not have made the 

830
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,080
connection between Woodrow 
Wilson and both of our nation 

831
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,800
and Ku Klux Klan without all 
those hints. 

832
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,240
And so, yeah, great, great piece
of history over there as trivia.

833
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,800
And also that reminds you black 
Klansmen. 

834
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,560
Great film. 
That's my pop culture 

835
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,280
recommendation. 
I'll mention it again in our pop

836
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,440
culture recommendation on Does 
that bring us to the end of the 

837
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:25,560
episode we need? 
Yes, yes, that is all the time 

838
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,920
we have for our regular 
questions. 

839
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,040
So let's start winding up. 
So there's the question that I 

840
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,200
had asked at the beginning of 
today's episode. 

841
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,560
On 8th May 2006, the television 
station BBC News 24 wanted to 

842
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:44,600
interview technology journalist 
Guy Cuny about the Apple core 

843
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,040
versus Apple computers legal 
dispute. 

844
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:53,640
By mistake be the BBC let Karen 
Bowerman interview Guy Goma, a 

845
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,800
Congolese French business studio
graduate from Brazzaville in the

846
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,440
Republic of Congo, who'd come to
the BBC for a job interview as a

847
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,680
data cleanser. 
The incident became one of the 

848
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,840
BB CS most widely reported 
bloopers, something which has 

849
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,600
become ingrained in our pop 
culture. 

850
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,240
Lot of memes have originated 
from it and during the interview

851
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:16,480
itself. 
When interviewer Karen Bowerman 

852
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,440
introduced the person as 
Internet expert Guy CUNY, Goma 

853
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,840
realized that there had been a 
misunderstanding and was visibly

854
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,840
shocked. 
Aware that he was on via live 

855
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,200
television and not wishing to 
make a scene, Goma attempted to 

856
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,960
answer the questions about Apple
Cos versus Apple computers and 

857
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,960
it's ramifications. 
My question to you is this 

858
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,720
iconic pop culture phenomenon 
which happened at that blooper, 

859
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:45,800
which happened at that point of 
time was all because of this 

860
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,040
legal case of Apple Cops versus 
Apple computers. 

861
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,640
Simple question, who owned Apple
Cops, which was in a legal 

862
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,720
battle with Apple computers? 
Interesting, I do remember this 

863
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,480
interview. 
It is quite hilarious. 

864
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,720
You can find it on YouTube. 
It is. 

865
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:04,160
It is very hilarious. 
Don't think this is part of the 

866
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,520
whole Steve Jobs exit from Apple
and coming come back. 

867
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,640
I don't think this is in that. 
No, no, this is more of a 

868
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,680
copyright thing. 
They wanted to use the name 

869
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,800
Apple. 
Right. 

870
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,200
No, I don't think it's any tech 
mogul for from whatever I know. 

871
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,880
So somebody outside of tech, but
I have no clue who. 

872
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,600
Give me a hint. 
The hint would be that Apple 

873
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,360
have you, I don't know. 
I mean, like you're an Apple 

874
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,000
user, right? 
We are like direct opposite. 

875
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,920
I'm a PC guy. 
You're an Apple guy, right? 

876
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:38,120
So on your Mac, you may have 
seen a sound file called Sosumi.

877
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,200
SOSUMI. 
Apparently, I think the name 

878
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,640
slightly changed in the newer 
versions. 

879
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,840
But at least for years, almost a
couple of decades, there was a 

880
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,160
chime, which is part of the 
Apple Mac thing called Sosumi 

881
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,480
SOSUMI. 
The original name for that was 

882
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:01,880
supposed to be chime. 
But the Apple head honchos did 

883
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:07,000
not want the name anywhere near 
music, any kind of name or term 

884
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,560
related to music being used in 
the Mac software. 

885
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,560
So instead they put in because 
they didn't know if it would 

886
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,160
come under the copyright problem
or the copyright agreement. 

887
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:22,080
So they quite cheekily of one 
particular developer used the 

888
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,160
name SOSUMI, so sue me as the 
name. 

889
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:31,240
And that was there on many Macs 
for I think a couple of decades 

890
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,760
until it's it was changed quite 
recently. 

891
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,640
It's in the music industry. 
So with that clue, do you think 

892
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:41,040
you can crack it? 
OK, Music industry and it is the

893
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,880
UK, the BBC and knowing you 
beneath, I'm just going to say 

894
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,360
The Beatles. 
Yes, it is The Beatles. 

895
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,200
So Apple Cops was one of the 
holding companies of The 

896
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,360
Beatles, including their 
catalogue and whatnot. 

897
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:57,040
And then when Apple Computers 
came up, there was a copyright 

898
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,680
battle between the two for the 
name Apple. 

899
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,760
It was finally settled after 
many decades of multiple legal 

900
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,400
battles. 
And there was a very cheeky 

901
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:15,360
reference to that in many Macs 
with the chime that was called 

902
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,880
Sosumi. 
None of that. 

903
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,360
That's kind of funny. 
I see it, I see it, I see the 

904
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,240
humor in that. 
But. 

905
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,280
I knew you would just enjoy, you
know, the moment, the ride off 

906
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,640
the bat. 
How can you not? 

907
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,600
So sue me, of course you would 
enjoy that. 

908
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,760
Yeah. 
OK, that brings us to the pop 

909
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,800
culture recommendations. 
And I since I did mention Spike 

910
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,960
Lee, I'm gonna mention a couple 
of his films that I really 

911
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,680
enjoy. 
Black Landsman was, I think his 

912
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,800
latest film that I've seen, but 
before that I had also, Oh no, 

913
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,760
wait, I think I also saw the the
five bloods, which is criminally

914
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,760
underrated, I felt, and also I 
think got an Oscar snub. 

915
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,760
If I'm not wrong, deserve 
better. 

916
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,480
I have to mention do the right 
thing inside man. 

917
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,120
Again, I I doesn't get a lot of 
cred. 

918
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:07,080
I think it's a fun film, a bank 
heist film as bank heist films 

919
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,840
go. 
And Malcolm X, these are the few

920
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,120
that I'll mention. 
So that's Black Clansmen, the 

921
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,600
Five Bloods, Inside Man, Malcolm
X. 

922
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,120
And of course, do the right 
thing. 

923
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,720
Nice, nice. 
So my recommendation for this 

924
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:26,320
week would be a movie I caught 
on OTT, which I'm told did not 

925
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,200
do well and in the theaters, and
I'm going to be surprised it did

926
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,840
not. 
It's called Khel Khel Me 

927
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,800
starring Akshay Kumar. 
It's been a long time since I've

928
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,640
seen Akshay Kumar at the top of 
his game. 

929
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,000
To be honest, I've seen a lot of
his inspirational movies and he 

930
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,160
for some reason falls short on 
all of them. 

931
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,120
He's back to being a funny guy 
with very good comic timing in 

932
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,600
Kale Kalebay. 
And I have to also mention that 

933
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,600
Kale Kalebay is a remake of a 
movie called Perfect Strangers 

934
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:04,040
and it's a 2016 Italian movie 
and it's been remade I don't 

935
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:09,160
know how many times, at least in
excess of 20, with it having 

936
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,560
been remade twice in India prior
to this. 

937
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,360
So one of those I have which I 
have watched is a movie called 

938
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,120
12th Man. 
It's available on Disney Hotstar

939
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:23,320
for anyone to watch. 
It is a slight twist on Perfect 

940
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,600
Strangers because while that's 
more of a relationship drama 

941
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:33,520
kind of story, the same conceit 
or the same concept is used for 

942
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,000
a murder mystery in 12th Man. 
Which is. 

943
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,640
Directed by Jitu Joseph, who you
may have heard of and you may 

944
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:46,160
not have heard of, but Jitu 
Joseph is the man who wrote and 

945
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:52,120
directed the first Drishyam, the
original Drishyam, so you know 

946
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,560
you're in good hands. 
So that's a movie that you might

947
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,160
want to catch on Hotstar. 
Disney hotshot. 

948
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,920
OK, interesting that I will 
randomly plug a movie that I 

949
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,760
made in college. 
It was called 1 Beer down to the

950
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,600
short film for the short film 
competition. 

951
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,160
And the central conceit was not 
exactly the same, but kind of 

952
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,520
similar because I think in this 
movie The idea is that you have 

953
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,720
to share your phone calls and 
messages with your partners. 

954
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,280
Yes, yes. 
The theme for our film was that 

955
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,280
the group of friends and you're 
not allowed to use your phone 

956
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,720
except for one phone call and I 
think everybody in the group 

957
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:26,320
also fine. 
I've forgotten what the movie. 

958
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,040
Would be made. 
I think that's called going to 

959
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,400
jail for most people. 
Except that you were these were 

960
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,560
guys who had who were spending 
their last day together and the 

961
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,240
next day was their last day in 
college. 

962
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,720
So this is the last night. 
And so they're like, we are 

963
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:42,080
going to spend it with each 
other, but we are disallowed 1 

964
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,000
phone call it. 
So I don't know why where the 

965
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,560
team we just took me back to 
that. 

966
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,080
Don't watch it. 
Honestly, this is not a. 

967
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,880
It's a non recommendation if 
anything. 

968
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,920
By the way, if if somebody did 
not want to watch it, where 

969
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,560
would they not be able to watch 
it? 

970
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,680
I think you should not be 
watching it on YouTube. 

971
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,320
That's that's where I remember 
last not watching it. 

972
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,240
Yeah. 
So check check out everything 

973
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:09,160
else except that. 
Just an additional piece of 

974
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,840
trivia, Perfect Strangers has 
been recognized as the most 

975
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,640
remade film according to the 
Guinness Book of World Records. 

976
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,880
Wow. 
Yes, so, and this is the best 

977
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,960
part, there's an English 
language stage version. 

978
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,080
No, OK. 
Yeah, there's an English 

979
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,760
language stage version which is 
going to star Neil Patrick 

980
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,840
Harris, Jane Krakowski, Debra 
Messing, Constance Wu, among 

981
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,600
many others. 
And I really love the title of 

982
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,720
the stage version. 
It's called Shit Meet Fan. 

983
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:46,760
Nice, I like that. 
I like that. 

984
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,720
Very cool. 
So that's all for this episode. 

985
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,360
Thank you for listening in. 
We hope you enjoyed the show and

986
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,040
learned something new. 
If you liked what you heard, 

987
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,400
please subscribe to our podcast 
and leave us a review on your 

988
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,040
favorite podcast platform. 
It helps us reach a wider 

989
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,040
audience and allows more people 
to discover and enjoy the show. 

990
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,280
We'd love to hear from you. 
Feedback, suggestions and even 

991
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,120
trivia. 
You can share questions that you

992
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,880
want asked on the show. 
You can send us an e-mail at 

993
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,920
areyouquizzingme@gmail.com with 
the name of the quiz master in 

994
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,840
the subject line. 
Or you could, you know, just 

995
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,080
stalk Aditya and ask him, tell 
him to ask you your questions. 

996
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,600
Apparently, that's possible now.
So yeah. 

997
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:26,200
Yeah. 
So this is going to be podcast 

998
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:31,040
sponsored stalking. 
Or if we do find our listeners 

999
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,520
in the wild, please feel free to
come up to us and, you know, 

1000
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,200
tell us how much you enjoy the 
show. 

1001
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,360
At least I would enjoy something
like that. 

1002
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,640
Unfortunately the people who 
come to my lab are mostly people

1003
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,640
who are sick, so I don't think 
the podcast would be on top of 

1004
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,720
their recommendation or at least
cop topics of conversation at 

1005
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:52,200
that particular point of time. 
Listen to me, they trust doctors

1006
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,360
you should just abuse that 
trust. 

1007
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,600
And with the side of crocin also
recommend. 

1008
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,520
Are you quizzing me? 
Yeah, OK, you can reach us out 

1009
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,520
on Instagram at Are you quizzing
me? 

1010
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,280
We have a community on Reddit, 
the subreddit being R slash Are 

1011
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,520
you quizzing me? 
We are also available now on 

1012
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,000
YouTube. 
So if you're somebody who 

1013
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,960
listens to podcast on YouTube, 
we are available there as well. 

1014
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,120
All thanks to Aditya. 
Full credit to him for doing 

1015
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,960
that. 
I had absolutely no clue that 

1016
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,560
was even possible. 
So we appreciate your support 

1017
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,320
and look forward to sharing more
episodes with you in the future.

1018
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,160
Thanks again for tuning in and 
have a great day. 

1019
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,080
Before I sign off, I think I've 
said this before, I'll say it 

1020
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,760
again. 
I recommend it to a friend if 

1021
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,040
you think they'll enjoy this. 
If they like listening to 

1022
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,440
trivia, this is a fun way to 
spread the love for trivia. 

1023
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,240
And Speaking of, there is a quiz
that I attended. 

1024
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:47,240
So if any of our friends of the 
podcast live in Mumbai, I would 

1025
00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:51,680
suggest going for this quiz. 
It's called QED and it is meant 

1026
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,600
for medical professionals but 
also to open to other people. 

1027
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,720
They already already did the 
qualifying rounds last weekend. 

1028
00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:02,600
I was there alone and I sorely 
felt Vineeth's lag there because

1029
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,040
I have 0 medical knowledge as I 
found out last weekend. 

1030
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,720
But that was just so meant for 
you. 

1031
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:12,640
I felt I told so many people 
about the podcast and I was 

1032
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,040
like, but my Co host would be 
great at this except he doesn't 

1033
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,520
live here. 
So yeah. 

1034
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,040
In any case, it is open to 
people to come. 

1035
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,560
Just watch. 
And the finals are happening 

1036
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,560
next Sunday. 
It's happening in Mumbai, in 

1037
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,800
Bandra, in Saint Joe's 
Auditorium. 

1038
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,000
So if you're around in Mumbai 
next Sunday, you should go check

1039
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,400
it out. 
I'll be there and come say hi if

1040
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,520
you do come for the quiz. 
And at that note, see you guys 

1041
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,080
next week. 
Bye.