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Welcome One welcome all to episode #72 of Are You Quizzing
Me, your favorite quizzing and trivia podcast show.
Aditya and I are back for another round of quizzing.
And without further ado, let's move into the meat of the
quizzing itself. Let's start off today with our
usual audience question, the answer for which I will reveal
at the end of today's episode. So today's question for you, our
dear audience, is this iconic company logo is actually a
stylized version of two people, the company and the customer
shaking hands. Let me repeat the question.
This iconic company logo is actually a stylized version of
two people, the company and the customer shaking hands.
Identify the company. I will reveal the answer to this
question at the end of today's episode.
So let's start off today's main question quizzing series with
Aditya, who has just back from finding himself in the
Himalayas. So before you start the
question, Aditya, do you want to tell our audience how the
Himalayas are right now? How about I just combine that
into my first question, Vineet? And that, trust me, was not
planned. That is just a crazy
coincidence. But yeah, please do.
So I was in the Himalayas, I was trekking, and I encountered a
fun piece of trivia. And of course, I had to include
it. So without any further ado
beneath, here's the first question for this episode.
Tell me, who is the first person to put two feet on top of Mount
Everest? Oh, I feel this is a trick
question. When you say 2 feet, because I
think Edmund Hillary's famous photograph has him with just one
foot on top, one foot at the bottom, not bottom.
I mean, like, he's got one foot on the peak and he's got a flag
with it, right? So is that the reason that's not
Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay then?
That would be quite the stride, like 1 foot at the bottom, one
foot on the top. Bottom.
I did not mean at the bottom of the base of Mount Everest, but
actually I think it's supposed to be pronounced Everest, right?
But we all call it Everest. Do you do you know who it's
named after? I think it's a George Everest
who's he's somebody in England, but he's never visited Everest.
So he has nothing to do with Everest, but they named it after
him anyway. I believe it's something like
that, not sure. You never failed to impress me,
Vineet. Of course you are right, it is.
It is a George Everest. And yes, his name was pronounced
Everest. And of course the modern
pronunciation is Everest, so I won't say it's incorrect.
It just has evolved over time. Yeah, it's yeah.
George himself, by the way, was against that being the name of
the mountain for a couple of reasons.
And his reasons were it could not be written in Hindi and it
couldn't be pronounced by Indians or the native of India
as he called them. So he was not very far naming
them, naming the mountain Everest or Everest after
himself. It was not named by him, by the
way, obviously because he didn't want to name it Andrew Walk, the
Survey General of India. The British Surveyor General of
India named it after his predecessor, who was George
Everest. So his successor named it Andrew
Walker. OK.
But coming back to the question itself, who was the first person
to put two feet on top of Mount Everest?
OK, so I have a feeling there's a trick here somewhere.
So first person to put two feet. Now what if those are not human
feet? Are you saying they added two
feet to the top of Mount Everest?
So then anybody who put something there would have put 2
feet to on the top of Mount Everest, right?
Or are you talking about anatomical feet?
So let me give you a hint which is not very relevant to what you
just said. You are in the vicinity, you're
not too off. But the hint is the name or the
person in question. It has already been mentioned in
our conversation so far. OK, so as my salamander brain
has not just done, I've forgotten the name of the
surveyor General who was the successor of Everest.
Are we talking about him because during the Great Trigonometric
Survey he added higher erase the height of Mount Everest by two
feet or something? Have you, have you hacked my
computer? Do you have access to my trivia
by some chance? How?
How could you have possibly cracked that so Well, How could
you possibly crack that so? Easily I, I, I've been listening
to a lot of lateral where the questions you have to really
analyse the questions because they do this kind of, you know,
your kind of thing where they put a trick in it.
But yeah, that that's, that's how I guess you might be doing
something like that. I wish I could take credit for
this. This isn't my word play, but OK,
let me tell you what the whole thing is, which you have pretty
much cracked yourself. Sir Andrew Scott Walk, who was
the British Surveyor General of India.
And I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right.
Steve Walk. Mark Waugh.
OK, OK. I've been trying to do a EPI
glottis thing over there, but Andrew Wah was the person just
going to power through this. Now stop laughing.
Really, please let me get through this.
Was in charge of trying to measure the different mountains
in Himalayas and trying to figure out the highest ones over
there. And when they came across
Everest, Everest as it was called back then, he was in
charge of measuring it. They came up with the
measurement and there were multiple measurements done.
They came up with the measurement of exactly 29,000
feet. OK.
Now they did not want to reveal that to the public because they
thought nobody would believe them if they came up with such a
round Number. So they reported the height of
Everest as 29,000 and two feet, which is why he is sometimes
playfully credited with being, quote, the first person to put
two feet on top of Mount Everest.
Fun fact, do you know how tall Mount Everest is?
So this is obviously a very early measurement and I am, if
I'm not wrong, this in the 1850s that this measurement was
decided. However, there was I because
I've gone through this trivia, I do know what we're talking
about. It is exactly 8848 meters.
And this was something that they agreed to very recently.
China and Nepal came to an agreement very recently as to
the height of Everest because they had discrepancy over their
measurements. And specifically, I think they
were arguing about whether they should include the ice or the
snow on top into the height of the mountain or not.
And eventually they decided that yes, this is the height that
they're going to. OK, great answer.
Great answer to that question, but I'm afraid that's not what
we were looking for. The correct answer to that was
nobody knows. What?
Why? OK, so so here's the thing.
This is one of those technicality things.
How do you measure the height of a mountain?
Oh OK. You mean like from the base?
From sea level? From the Earth Centre.
Exactly. And how do you know see like how
do you get to sea level from like the sea is very far away
from Mount Everest, right? So how do you get that kind of a
precise measurement? You don't where is the base of
the mountain? Is it to, is it at sea level or
is it where you can see the base of the mountain, right?
Physically go and check. But then if you're if the
mountain's already on a raised plateau surface, then do you
include the plateau's height or do you not?
You see the problem? I do see the problem beneath.
I'm very, very cognizant of the problem.
There is no correct actually. Basically we haven't agreed upon
height for Mount Everest, but there is no actual We probably
will never know exactly how tall it is.
And plus it keeps changing every year because Mount Everest I
think grows by around 2cm or something every year.
It does, it does. And then of course the height
also changes between winter and summer by around 2 meters if I'm
not wrong. You are right.
Do you know the Well, if since we are talking, and this is
again not our usual diet of questions because we don't get
any technicalities, but since we are here, do you know the point
furthest away from the centre of the earth, if you were to
measure a mountain quote UN quote by that.
Stick What is it called? Mount Chimborazo in Ecuador.
Oh God, man, what is up with you?
It is Chimborazo in Ecuador, and it is a whole 2168 meters
further from the center of the earth than Everest is.
So yeah, that is. If you were if you were also to
consider from the base physical base to the top of the peak,
which would be the tallest mountain on Earth?
That would be Mauna Kea in Hawaii.
You knew that one, Yes, Yes, because it is an underwater
mountain, right? And what we see on land is just
the peak. It rises over 10,000 meters, 10
kilometers from its base. It's insane.
Insane.
That was a very fun question and a very fun interlude.
So I'm going to go into something I've been a kind of
keeping in a pocket for a fun moment.
This is something that was, how do I put this quite interesting.
And it's a fascination for me. May not be a fascination for a
lot of other people, but let's go with it and see if you like
it anyway. Have you heard of terms of
venery? As in VENERY.
No, I. Haven't.
No. OK, so most classically known
terms of venery can be traced back to the Book of Saint Alban,
published in 1486. The book is attributed to
Juliana Berner, who came up with imaginative yet oddly
appropriate terms of venery. What am I talking about?
And what are terms of Henry? You started the question by
asking me if I know terms of Henry.
I told you I don't know terms of Henry and you ended the question
by asking what are the terms of Henry.
Yes. No, because that's the that's
the clue I'm giving you is that the most classically known terms
of Henry can be traced back to the Book of Saint Alban,
published in 1486. OK so follow up question is do I
know the Saint Alban book? And the answer to that is also
no, I don't so this question so far as there will be 0 clues we
need. Let's just put this, this is
like this is a gateway question. Most people would not be able to
tell you what terms of energy are or I'll tell you what the
Book of Saint Alban is about. The Book of Saint Alban is about
hunting, hunting, trapping, you know, basically killing
innocent, innocent animals in the words for food.
And you said this is what time period?
14th century. 1486. OK, the 15th century. 15th
century. And terms of venery are derived
from that book. I'm assuming it has something to
do with food. Not, no, not.
Food. Oh, interesting.
Then the second guess would be some sort of warfare or some
sort of guerrilla warfare technique.
No, not that either. I can tell you that venery is a
medieval term for hunting. So it has to do with hunting
then? No, like technically terms of
venery in the name would translate to terms of hunting,
but it's not terms of hunting, it's just derived.
From that. Because the use of these terms
of venery were more common in the Middle Ages during hunting,
like when somebody's going hunting.
OK, this then it I'm thinking maybe it has to do with the some
sort of marksmanship. No, no, no terms or term, Raj.
OK, let's forget that. So then what?
OK, if you're going hunting, what's your purpose?
Bragging rights. OK, let's take the Middle Ages.
OK. Food.
OK, so you would be hunting what for food?
Animals. For food.
OK, so then terms of venery animals put it together.
Do you have any? Anything springs to mind?
Which is why I went with culinary and I was thinking
maybe it has something to do with cuts of meat and stuff like
that. But again, that is.
Let's go one step before that, before it reaches the table like
you're in the forest. You know, let me go into that
more. Let me go into that space.
All right, I'm in the forest and it's dense foliage are all
around me and I'm I'm tracking an animal through the.
Okay, here you said tracking an animal.
What if it is not an animal? What if you're overestimating my
hunting capabilities when it Let me handle one animal first?
Okay, no, I'll I'll play along. I'll play along.
So multiple animals. Oh, okay.
Does it have to do with the groups of animal?
Is it? Is it what what we call the a
certain group of animals that term for it?
I guess the collective noun for it is that what?
Yes, yes. So terms of enery is the actual
proper terminology for words of collective groupings of animals.
Brilliant. I love that so much.
I went through all this rigmarole so that I would have
an excuse to give you certain terms of energy and see if you
can guess which animals they belong to.
Those were terms belong. Are you ready?
OK, So what would these are all going to be?
Fill in the blanks. OK, I'll start with an easy one.
A murder of Dash. Crows.
Yes, very good. A murder of crows.
So the collective noun for a collective group of crows are
called a murder of crows, like we would say a pride of lions,
etcetera. So you get the idea, right?
OK, so let's go into the most serious one.
Kaleidoscope, a kaleidoscope of blank, a kaleidoscope of the
platypus. No, I mean, many of these terms,
Nah, they kind of evoke something about the animal.
OK, kaleidoscope of Peacocks. Like you, I mean, like, you've
got the right idea. But a kaleidoscope.
Like a kaleidoscope, you want so many colors, right?
Chameleons. No, I'll, I'll give.
I'll just tell you it's a kaleidoscope of butterflies.
That's a beautiful, beautiful phrase.
Well. I know, I know, right?
OK, An unkindness of. An unkindness of hippos.
No, actually, those are called a bloat of hippos, by the way, but
an unkindness of. What are unkind animals?
Let me go with the. This this particular animal,
their favorite word might be never more.
Wait, I feel like this is a music.
Music This is a literature reference Literature reference
Nevermore the poem Nevermore both the Raven Nevermore Edgar
Allan Poe. I was thinking no more, there's
a band, but OK, never mind. OK, it's a Ravens.
It's Ravens. It's a Ravens.
It's an unkindness of Ravens, a flamboyance of flamingos.
Very good. A convocation of.
Owls. No, I don't think it's OWL.
No. Convocation of something very.
Regal. Like think America skunk?
No, no eagle. An eagle.
Yes, convocation of Eagles. Yes, a parliament of.
Oh, I know a parliament. Parliament of owls.
That's owls, right? Yes, a parliament of owls,
Rooks, the birds, you know the kind.
They look like crows but with white beaks.
Rooks are also called Parliament of rooks, so that's also there.
OK, now I'm going to give you 3 terms which would apply to one
basic type of animal. OK, a cry of or a cowardice of
or a comedy of. Cry cowardice Comedy.
Yes. Cowardice.
My clue to you would be for the first two, OK, cry and
cowardice. I'm not going to tell you which
clue is for which word, but one of them is think Julius Caesar,
OK, And the second one I would think tell you to think Cartoon
Network to. Encourage the cowardly dog for
dog. Yes.
So these are all different terms for different types of dogs.
So when you're having hounds, when you're having hounds, you
got them a cry of hounds. OK.
The in Julius Caesar, after the death of Caesar, I think it's
Mark Anthony who says cry havoc and let's slip the dogs of war.
So hence the term dogs of war. Hence the term cry comedy is for
boxers. You know the dog, Boxer dogs,
they're called comedy of boxes. Yeah.
So there are so many of these. Some of the others, which I
really like. A destruction of Wildcats and
obstinacy of Buffalo, a protection of armadillos, a
consortium of octopi. A tuxedo of Penguins.
I should do not a tuxedo of Penguins.
I heard that one, yeah. Yeah, and an embarrassment of
giant pandas. Though I'm assuming a lot of
these have come about much later than the 15th century.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they started off with a lot
of these from the 15th century, and then people have just kept
adding on to them. And there are so many, which can
apply to multiple different animals.
These, the ones I've mentioned, are usually associated with only
these. OK.
There are others, like, say, for example, we've spoken about
Ravens, right, And unkindness of Ravens.
You can also call them a conspiracy of Ravens, but at the
same time that's also applicable to lemurs.
So it'd be a conspiracy of lemurs or a conspiracy of
Ravens. And you had guessed a Peacock,
right? So for P fowl, there's a term
called the ostentation and ostentation of P fowl.
Wow. Love that ostentation, so many
syllables. Yeah, and there's a huge, huge,
huge list online. I would encourage our audience.
It's a lot of fun to just go through these names.
Some of them are just so much fun.
I'd like to just kind of pepper them into my day-to-day life as
well. I really love a model of crows.
I mean, like, that's just, it's just, I mean, like somebody
should make a band called A Murder of Crows.
I, I have to tell you at this point, I gave across this
hilarious meme, I guess on Instagram, which was about, oh,
how about we try to do the singular version of plurals in
movie titles, right? So like Jaws becomes jaw.
So. OK, a crow on the Orient
Express. That is amazing that.
Is amazing. Oh God.
OK. So we've spent enough silly time
on animals and funny names of their groupings, so let's move
back to you, Aditya. Well, from that multi syllabic,
very fancy sounding English, let's move to something which is
very much my territory. And I have to give credit to
Ayush because Ayush Dash, one of our regular listeners, he sent
this question and somehow he sent it for me to ask you.
And it's like, I feel so seen, like he truly recognized who I
am with this question. OK, you're scaring me now.
No, no, it's just it's so dumb. It's so fun.
I love it. OK, OK, so and it also works
because it is from the field of tech and I am at I was at one
point from that as well. So let's ask you the question.
As Ayush has posted, X is a bug that seems to disappear or
change when you try to debug it. They are the dread of every
experienced software developer since they know that
encountering this type of bug will undoubtedly be hard to
study, understand and resolve. What is this bug called
Schrodinger's? Bug.
You are in the realm. You are very much in the realm.
Wait, what? Yeah.
OK. I'll be very honest with you.
I didn't have anything else, but because you mentioned that it
may be there may not be there, we don't know whether it's there
or not. And I that's.
Wait, Heisenberg, Heisenberg was 11th grade.
Chemistry, physics, whatever. So it's pretty much that time
that you would have. Yeah.
So you would have probably studied all of the Schrodinger
Heisenberg at the same time. Is it Heisenberg?
What? Is the name man?
No, no. I am such an idiot.
I just gave the answer away. I supposed to say Schrodinger?
Such a fool. I was so excited for this
question. Oh man, I wish.
I'm so sorry. I was going to say Schrodinger.
This was entirely. We'll keep the question.
We'll, we'll keep the we'll. Definitely keep and we're not
going to edit this out. I will ask another question, but
let me just give you the answer. It is Heisenbug, and I love it
because it is the exact kind of trivia that my heart craves.
You know, you know, you know how to debug one of those.
I'll tell you how to debug one of those.
OK, type in the command print, say my name and the answer will
be Heisenberg Pop Culture Tech mix.
Except Vineet, that's not how you debug anything.
Nobody has ever been a print command to debug something.
Like you told you, you said you can't find it, right?
You don't know if it's there or not.
Now you're forcing it to tell you that it's there.
So the moment it. Reveals itself.
That's when you strike. See Two Steps Ahead 2.
Steps ahead like I can't. Well, clearly I'm I'm being the
idiot today so so revealing answers in my question, but
Irish regardless of me screwing that up.
Thank you for that question. Let me ask you another question
and this one again, thanks to Irish and this would probably be
something right up your alley. So you're probably going to
enjoy this in the Treaty of Park Ave. also recognized as the XY
treaty. So there are two names in it.
It was agreed that each of the authors would acknowledge the
other as the world's greatest writer in their respective
speciality while describing themselves and as merely second
best. According to the terms, X would
claim Y as the greatest science fiction writer ever, and in
return Y would declare X as the greatest science writer.
Both of these authors retain the liberty to publicly to publicly
acknowledge themselves as the second best to the other.
Who are X&Y or what is the name of the treaty XY?
Treaty of Park Ave. you said. And one of them is a science,
right? So they both write science and
science fiction, But they agreed that one of them would say
science fiction and the other would would say, OK, and what's
the time frame? Can you give me a time frame?
All right, I'll give it to you. Basically 20th century.
So you need somebody who's a Popular Science writer and a
science. So you need two people who are
Popular Science and science fiction writers.
First name that comes to mind is either Ray Bradbury and Isaac
Asimov, but I don't think they were that flippant.
Like Asimov had a sense of humor.
I don't know about Ray Bradbury there so much.
He's pretty very serious. I don't know.
Does Ray Bradbury qualify as a science fiction writer?
Yeah, no, he did. He did write science fiction,
right? He did write a lot of science
fiction. I Yeah.
I mean, I've only read Fahrenheit 451 so I I'm not sure
of the rest of his. No, he did.
He did. He did write science fiction.
I'm fairly sure of that if my memory serves me right.
OK, but it's OK Is Isaac Asimov right?
Because Asimov is the greatest science fiction, right?
Absolutely. Asimov is one of them.
Who is the other? So when you say against science
writers, Feynman did not write science fiction.
Otherwise he was very good science writer.
Richard Feynman, Nobel Prize winner.
So the XY treaty would acknowledge that one of them was
the better science fiction writer and the other was the
better science writer. Asimov was the science writer.
Who was the better science fiction writer?
Oh. Asimov was the science writer,
not the science fiction writer. I am as surprised as you are.
Wow, OK, that really knocked me out for a park because I had
Asimov begged as a science fiction writer.
So who's the only author who might give Asimov a run for his
money when it comes to science fiction?
Oh, that's a tough Honestly, I don't think anybody's had that
much of an impact on science fiction as Asimov has had.
I'd have to agree with you, but it's just that this question
demands an answer. So for the purpose of this
question, who would it be? I agree, though I feel Asimov is
probably the GOAT in this question.
True, true. If you're thinking purely
science fiction writer who has a bigger reach, Frank Herbert, the
author of Dune. No, no.
Robert Heinlein. No.
Also very very famous obviously, but was considered in fact,
actually I'd have to give it to you, was considered in the top
three as the big three of science fiction, with the other
two being X&Y. If I would say that there is one
other author who's had a huge impact on the way we depict
science fiction, at least now in the 90s and the 2000s, would be
Philip K Dick. Good guess, but no.
OK, I'm running out of science fiction authors who are like
huge names. Now I'm going to go to like
smaller names. Greg Baer.
But no, Greg Baer wasn't a contemporary of science of his
Asimov, even though he's written some fantastic novels.
Wait, who? Who had written Rendezvous with
Rama? Wait, no, no, no.
I think you're you're you're doing deep cuts now.
It's not, it's not that obscure a name.
OK. I need a clue.
OK, this particular author lived out the last years of his life
in Sri Lanka, not too far away. It is the person I'm thinking
about it, the guy who wrote Rendezvous Durama.
I'm. Oh God, he's very famous for
that novel of. Right, right, right, right.
He did write Ronda with Rama. You're right, you're right.
Yeah, 2001 a space odyssey. I'm trying to remember his name
Oh God, my brain 2001 a space odyssey.
Why can't I remember his name? I've read it like 1000 times.
I'm. Sure.
Yeah, I don't doubt that. I'll give it to you.
It's fine. You you name drop Rendezvous
Drama and 2001 A Space Odyssey. I can be kind enough to tell you
the answer is Arthur C Clark. Arthur Clark.
Yes. OK, this is just dumb.
I feel dumb now. I forgot.
Arthur C Clark. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's. He's had a huge.
Yes. Was the other author in
question, Arthur C Clark, along with Heinlein, as you had
already mentioned? And Asimov was considered the
they were together considered the Big Three of science fiction
pretty much through the 20th century.
And the coming back to the original question, it is the
Clark Asimov Treaty, where Clark would be, yeah, if either of
them were asked, they would say Clark is the better science
fiction writer, Asimov is the better science writer.
And they were free to just say that they were second best to
the other. You know, what's really, really
surprising is our Clark wrote a lot more of hard science fiction
where, you know, the science has to make sense in his science
fiction, right? Asimov science fiction didn't
have to make sense. Like he made-up stuff like
positronic brains and things like that where there's no basis
in actual physics, right? He doesn't he, he never tried to
explain the physics or what is going on.
But Clark goes into like detailed descriptions at many
points. So I'm really confused about
this. But either way, it's a great
question. It is a lovely question.
And we have Ayush to thank for both of these trivia, which was
the first one obviously, that I gave away was Heisenberg.
Beautiful, beautiful pun right there.
And the second one being Clark Asimov Treaty.
Yeah. Thank you, Ayush.
Yeah. So I'm going to also ask a
question which was sent by Ayush.
However, since it's very closely related to a question that I had
kept with me, I'm going to combine these two into like a
two-part question. Or maybe the second part will be
a hint to give you the answer to the first part.
So in American movies, TV and literature, there's a common
trope known as X, which is a two word term.
OK, X here is a two word term. It was popularized by Spike Lee
back in 2001. This character that's X type of
characters is usually portrayed by a black person as a
supportive figure helping white protagonists.
X is often a janitor, sometimes a prisoner.
The character often has no past, but simply appears one day to
help the white protagonist. These characters are typically
patient, wise, and possess special powers and will do
almost anything, including sacrificing themselves to save
the white protagonist. So what is the term that Spike
Lee popularized in 2001? OK, so this has existed from
before, but Spike Lee? No, no.
I mean like he, I think he coined the term.
I think he coined the term. I think I've heard of this
because it's one of those very common tropes.
It's like whatever, manic Pixie dream girl and stuff like that.
Yes, yes. And it's a two word phrase or
two word name, right? Yes.
Do you want a clue? Yes, please.
I think I need a clue. OK so this is the clue that
AYUSH had given. I'll use my question as the
follow up question to this. So the clues that AYUSH gave us.
A comedy fantasy movie called The American Society of X was
released featuring Justice Smith, directed by Kobe Libby on
15th March 2024, in which a young man gets recruited into a
secret Society of X people who dedicate their lives to making
white people's lives easier. Although initially enamoured
with his new powers, he begins to question the value of using
supernatural means to do the very thing he's felt obligated
to do his entire life. So there was a movie.
I'd also watched a trailer for this movie.
It was called The American Society of X, released in March
2024. I have a feeling it it uses the
very politically sensitive word of Negro.
It uses the word Negro. It does use the word Negro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I can't think of what the
other word is. I would ask you to condom, you
know, focus your attention on the clue where I am talking
about the movie itself. A young man gets recruited into
a secret Society of X people who dedicate their lives to making
white people's lives easier. Although initially enamoured
with his new powers, he begins to question the value of using
supernatural means. It's, I think, the magical
Negro, I think. Yes, it is the magical Negro.
OK, so you've gotten the first part of the question.
Thank you, Ayesh, for that question.
Now the second question or the second part to this is a
question I've kept in my Kitty for some time, The Legend of
Bagger Vance. The Legend of Bagger Vance is
one of the movies cited by Spike Lee when he first talked about
the Magical Negro, the other moving being The Green Mile.
So these are the two movies he put forward when he was talking,
or at least introduced the trope of the Magical Negro.
In The Legend of Bagger Vance. Bagger Vance, played by Will
Smith, a mysterious caddy, helps Ranulph Jonah, played by Matt
Damon, come to grips with his personal demons and play golf
again. What was Bagger Vance originally
based on, or at least loosely based on?
What was? As in, what do you mean by what
was? It was a literary.
Work. It was based on somebody.
Based on literary work, Literally, let's say literally,
let's say it's something you can read.
I'm not going to say literary work, but yeah.
Can you describe Will Smith's role again?
So Will Smith is a mysterious caddy who helps Ranulph Jonah,
played by Matt Damon, come to grips with his personal demons
and play golf again. I would.
My clue to you would be to focus on the names of the characters.
You have Bagger Vance BAGGERVANCE played by Will Smith
and the Caddy helps Matt Damon's character player, who's called
Rannolf Jenna, as in RANNULPHJUNUH.
OK. What was this movie loosely
based on? It is based on a text.
I'm going to give you that much. Randolph, Juna, Randy, Randy
Randolph. I don't know.
When you describe the whole setting of the thing, it
reminded me of a little bit of driving Miss Daisy, like the
person driving somebody around, and especially a black person
driving somebody around. But driving Miss Daisy is
obviously not the thing in question.
The only other thing I can think of is solving somebody's life
problems. The driver is like the Gita, but
I don't know how. Would that make sense?
Yes, it is based on the Bhagavad Gita.
Oh what? That's insane.
Yeah, can you tell me how the names play into it?
Now just try and work backwards. Rannos Juna Rao.
Oh, Arjun Arjuna. Arjuna, Arjuna, Arjuna and Will
Smith plays bagger vans, say bagger vans very quickly.
Bag of vans, Bag of vans. Oh Bhagwan, is it?
Bhagwan. Oh boy, who came up with this?
No, it is true. The plot is loosely based on the
Hindu sacred text the Bhagwat Gita, which is part of the Hindu
epic Mahabharata, where the warrior hero Arjuna, Hence
Arjuna refuses to fight. The God Krishna appears as
Bhagavan or Bagar Vance to help him follow his path as a warrior
and hero that he was meant to be.
OK, OK, very cool. So at some point and in some
quiz, we can put a list of actors who've played Krishna and
add Will Smith to that. And that should really be a
complete unexpected. It will be like Nitish Bharadwaj
and Will Smith. Yeah, that would hopefully make
a very interesting question, but I love that.
Very cool. Wow, nice.
Completely unexpected, but again, word play right up my
alley. I like it, Arjuna.
Arjuna. Brilliant.
Let's do a little bit more of pop culture, since you did start
us off on that path. Yes.
Paul McCartney. Somebody you might have heard of
Paul McCartney used to, during the height of Beatlemania, used
to check into hotels under a pseudonym.
That pseudonym eventually became the name of another band, or
rather, inspired the name of another band.
Do you know what pseudonym did Paul McCartney use?
I've read this somewhere and I remember that I've read it, but
I can't remember what it is. It's a situation where I know
because the moment you said Paul McCartney checking in pseudonym,
I was like, yeah, I read it somewhere and I've completely
forgotten it. So I'll have to work it out some
other way. Oh God, I'll.
Give you a hint. The band in question that
derived the name from Paul McCartney's pseudonym was an
American punk rock band. American punk rock?
Yeah, that narrows the field. Formed in 1974, so we are
talking about 1974. Sid Vicious?
No, I mean, like, that was his name, right?
It's not the name of the band. American punk rock.
Not my field. More clues please.
In 1996, after a tour with the Lola Palooza Music festival,
they played a farewell concert in LA and disbanded, so their
tenure was until 1996. Nope.
All of the four original members of the band have passed away.
Oh, Paul McCartney used some name as pseudonym Punk rock
band? No man, it's completely eluding
me, like nothing's even coming to mind.
It's one of those questions we've completely blanked on and
I don't think further clues are going to help, so you'll just
have to put me out of my misery. Do you want maybe some of the
iconic hits from this band? Would that help you?
God, that'll just make it worse. But still, go ahead, go ahead.
OK, let's try. Sheena is a punk rocker.
Bonzo goes to Bitburg. OK, blitzkrieg Bop.
I want to be sedated. Judy is a punk.
These are the famous songs. Yeah, I want to be sedated.
I want to be sedated. That's that's very true.
Honestly, I'm asking you this question.
If you had asked me I would have no clue.
Also because I'm not a punk rock guy at all.
Neither am I. Yeah, I was hoping that your
Beatles fandom would carry you. Through, but I know that I've
read it, but it's just not there.
I I can't remember anything about.
Yeah. That's fair.
It's all right.
I'll give you the answer. It is the Ramones.
The Ramone. Because Paul McCartney used to
use the pseudonym Paul Ramon when checking into hotels to
avoid fans, and Didi, who was part of the original 4 on the
group, encouraged them to take on that name almost as a
reference. Tongue in cheek reference to
Paul McCartney. And that's how the Ramones got
their name from Paul McCartney. So Beatles has influenced a
genre as far away as punk rock. Also, yeah, Beatles just
continue blowing my mind. That's painful.
I should have remembered that. It's all right.
You, you got it. You always got it.
Yeah, OK. So if let me see if I can dish
out some of that same torture to you.
Go for it. So this is the question that I'm
going to ask you. Shammi Narang is an Indian media
personality graduating with an engineering degree.
He was selected from among 10,000 candidates into
Doordarshan, which was then the only channel in India and he
became the face of Doordarshan news, reading and Indian
television in general. During the 70s and the 80s.
He's been seen in films like utejna Makbool, Sultan, No One
Killed Jessica, and Sarabjeet. While he's a familiar face to
our parents generation, millions of people know one aspect of him
without knowing who he is, especially residents of Lucknow,
Delhi, Hyderabad, Jaipur, Gurgaon, and many tourists in
Jaipur, Bikaner, Jodhpur, and Mysore.
How? Tourists.
Tourists also know him. But let's even if you don't
think of the tourist thing, that's fine.
That's a little lesser known fact, but residents, millions of
millions of residents of Lucknow, Delhi, Delhi to people
outside India, Hyderabad, Jaipur, Gurgaon, they all know
one aspect of him without knowing his name.
Is Mumbai also on that list? Yes, Mumbai is also on that
list. Is Bangalore also on the on that
list? No, Bangalore is not on the
list. Oh OK because I was going to
guess Metro but then if Bangalore is not there then.
You are right, it is the metro. He's the voice of the Indian
metro, but he's the voice of the Indian metro Hindi announcements
and Urdu also in Hyderabad. So he's done.
He's he's the voice of the original voice of you know,
please mind the gap. That kind of thing in Hindi
Darvaza by or kulenge. Very cool, very cool, but he
also mentioned tourists which which tourism yes, so.
He's left he yes, so he's lent his voice to the audio guides on
heritage monuments in Jaipur, Jodhpur, Bikaner and Mysore.
Of course. Yeah, it makes sense.
That's brilliant. That's a pretty good question
actually. I'm surprised.
Not Bangalore though, because I would imagine it fits right in.
But OK, maybe it's Bangalore. Not only Hindi announcements.
Only his Hindi announcements have been moved and if I'm not
mistaken, Bangalore Metro does not have Hindi announcements.
OK. But Hyderabad metro has
interesting. Yes.
So Hyderabad has both Hyderabad Hindi and Urdu announcements are
by Shami Narang. He mentioned that in an
interview. All right, cool.
That is a great piece of trivia. I love it.
Shami Narang name finely to the voice that I've heard so many
times. Yes, and I guarantee your
parents definitely know him. Ah, OK.
Because he was the face of Doordarshan in the in the 70s
and the 80s. Right.
And you mentioned that he is also been in a bunch of movies
and stuff also. Yeah.
Yeah, but those are like tiny roles.
I just put that in to throw you off.
Mean. Very mean.
Cool. I think that brings us to the
end of the episode, I believe. Yes.
So that's the time for all the time we have for our regular
questions. There is the matter of the
audience question. So the audience question for
today was this iconic company logo is actually a stylized
version of two people, the company and the customer shaking
hands. Which company Aditya do you
know? Company and the customer shaking
hands. No, I don't know actually.
Which industry did you say? I did not say the industry.
I just said it's a company logo. Do you?
Want to know? I don't know what that could do.
Maybe, yeah. It's the automobile industry.
Wouldn't have guessed that. I would have guessed something
along FMCG lines. Automobile, which looks like a
handshake. No, I I can't think of anything.
Oh wait, let me actually try to guess this.
Is this because I was also thinking Hewlett Packard for
some reason? HP I was thinking about HP is
obviously just written HP. Is it by any chance Hyundai?
Yes, it is Hyundai or Hyundai. I don't know what the correct
pronunciation is, but yes. So basically the two pillars of
the H are supposed to be, you know, the customer and the
company, and the middle connecting line is supposed to
be them shaking hands. Now that he said.
I feel like I've seen this in one of those places where you
where you can see logos and their design principles.
I think I've, I've probably seen before.
You might have. You might have.
So what's your pop culture recommendation this week,
Aditya? Oh, I had the opportunity to
watch Inside Out too, so very early recommendation.
It just came out, so if you haven't seen it yet, go check it
out. Obviously the first one is a
absolute favorite film of mine. And spoiler alert for the first
film, in the scene where Bing Bong dies I have at every point.
Every time I've seen it I've cried and I've seen it multiple
times. So it it is one of my absolute
favorite Pixar films. I'm wearing a Pixar T-shirt
because I just went to watch it actually and the second part
just came out and it is pretty great.
It's pretty great as sequels go. It is a decent sequel, so worth
your time. Check out that.
I also had the chance because I recently reacquired my Netflix
account. I had the chance to check out A
Pretty Woman. It had been on my watch list for
a very long time. I would say Julia Roberts,
Richard Gere can't go wrong. They are an attractive couple
just falling in love. It's a fun little story.
It has a great soundtrack. Must watch if you are in the
mood for some ROM com. Yes, and I believe there it's
partially inspired by Pygmalion, which inspired my favorite lady,
which inspired this. I'm guessing at least some point
of it. Yeah, possible.
Fantastic recommendation. My recommendation today is a
movie that I surprisingly liked. It was it's a movie called
Hitman, it's a Franklin Linklater film, it's released on
Netflix and I went into went in to watch the movie with 0
expectations but I really enjoyed it.
And fun fact, it's based on an actual real person.
Though the story is not it, the character is based on a real
person. So it is all the more just very
interesting. So I would recommend Hitman on
Netflix. Glenn Powell is an attractive
man. I I think he is, in my opinion,
probably the next Brad Pitt, the next Ryan Reynoldson, along
those lines of like very attractive white men leading men
in Hollywood. It's very coincidental that you
mentioned that. I just saw this video the other
day of Shania Twain in live concert.
So you know that song of us that don't impress me much, right?
So in the original song, there's an interlude portion where
everything goes silent and she's like, OK, so you're Brad Pitt.
That don't impress me much. And so that goes on, right?
So during the live performance, after 20 years of the song
getting released, I think 25 years almost that since it's
released, she changed the lyrics during the live performance the
same. OK, so you're Ryan Reynolds.
That doesn't impress. Me.
Oh, wow. So I have an eye for the male
attractive men. Attractive men in Hollywood.
Yes, of course, yes. OK, cool.
But I have seen Hitman as well and yeah, definitely a watch
that I would recommend. Richard Linklater, filmmaker
that I deeply admire. So a good, decent film.
Yeah. And it was I, because I had seen
the trailer, for some reason it didn't impress me and I had a
little time to kill. So then I just turned it on and
it, I really enjoyed the movie. I really enjoyed it.
It had, you know, it didn't go the way I expected, let's put it
that way. No I I get what you mean, it is
a good film. Actually, I'll recommend the
third film since we are talking about films and I was on Netflix
a while for a while. There is this thing, there is
this film called Sajni Shindeka Viral Video.
It's a whodunit and it's a fun film.
It's actually very well acted. It has Nimrat Kaur in it and she
does a phenomenal job as the investigation officer and an
actor who doesn't get enough credit.
I believe so, Yeah. Check out Sajni Shindeka Viral
Video also on Netflix and the other films mentioned.
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