1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:06,680 In Pierce Egan's 1821 book Life in London, two young men from 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,360 London become famous for their mischievous adventures, setting 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,200 a cultural trend for lively, rowdy behaviour. 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,800 Their names later inspired a popular festive American drink, 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,600 a mixture traditionally made with eggnog, Brandy and spices 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,960 often enjoyed during the holiday season. 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,920 What are the names of these two iconic figures whose legacy is 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,120 now synonymous with something else? 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,240 This is our audience question for this episode. 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:40,680 Welcome to Are you quizzing me? This is episode #127 Cue the 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,640 music. Welcome to Are you quizzing me. 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,840 I am Vineet Nair with my Co host Aditya Kashyap. 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,720 This is a quizzing trivia podcast show. 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,400 Join us as we dive deep into history, science, pop culture, 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,560 and so much more. Let's get quizzing. 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,080 OK? Aditya and I are back for 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,560 another round of quizzing for this 127th episode of Are You 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,280 Quizzing Me? Before we start, I have a 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,760 request to make to all our listeners. 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,440 We have a lot of very dedicated listeners, but I have a feeling 21 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,600 that most of you are gatekeeping this odd podcast to yourself. 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,040 Please don't be selfish. Share it to everyone and to 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,240 anybody who may or may not be interested. 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,360 I like it. Let's start each of our episodes 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,840 by insulting our audiences. Like selfish. 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,880 All of you guys don't donate enough to charity and don't call 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,000 your mom's back. Like, honestly, just terrible 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,280 people. OK, No, I'm kidding. 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,040 Our listeners are great. And yeah, please do share and 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,840 share. Spread the love of trivia. 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,160 That's the best way for us to grow and for you to enjoy more 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,000 of our episodes. All right, great. 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,960 Great plug out of the way. Speaking off our listeners. 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,120 I have questions from listeners today. 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,240 Oh, nice. For two reasons that I have a 36 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,640 bunch of bunch of listener questions that have been sent in 37 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,800 that I have not really had the chance to put it out there in 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,640 the episode. I want to catch up on that. 39 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,479 And also, I was like a little busy the last week. 40 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:11,400 I was celebrating the beginning of 2026. 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,320 I haven't had the chance to prepare. 42 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,640 So 127 is going to be me mooching off of our listeners 43 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,320 after insulting them. Yeah. 44 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,560 OK. So the first listener is this 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,720 wonderful guy, Ayush. He has actually sent a questions 46 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,080 in the past as well and we have used those questions. 47 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,280 So Ayush, thank you for being such a regular dedicated 48 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,080 listener and thank you for this question. 49 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,960 The first question is actually a lot of fun and I miss HK because 50 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,760 he's the one who actually loves this Delhi trivia usually. 51 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,240 So this is a Delhi based trivia. Oh, this is. 52 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:48,120 This Delhi based location, it's called X, is named after a St. 53 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,680 who was once a nomad in the 11th century. 54 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,440 It is notorious for being the site of a tragic demolition and 55 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,760 subsequent massacre during the emergency period, which is 56 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,720 around 50 years ago. It's also mentioned in William 57 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,840 Dalrymple's book City of Jinns, where he notes that some people 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:14,720 incorrectly refer to this place or use the incorrect name Y due 59 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,920 to the frequent presence of individuals from a certain 60 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:25,080 occupation at this location. Identify the location and 61 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,000 basically give me X&Y. When you set this name and 62 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:34,280 people dying in all my immediate thought went to Kuni Darwaza. 63 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,760 But I don't think that's what you're talking about when you 64 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,240 mentioned that, you know, there have been people with certain 65 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,960 profession associated with this place. 66 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,920 If I'm not wrong, Kuni Darwaza is named after Bahadusha Zafar's 67 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,440 children who were killed there. If I'm not children. 68 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:48,560 Who were murdered? Yeah. 69 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,440 This is different. This place in Delhi is named 70 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,560 after Sufi St. and many people incorrectly assume the name 71 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,280 comes from a certain group of people of a certain profession 72 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,840 who congregate there. Have I got that right? 73 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,680 If you remember Monde Green from I don't know which episode 74 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,000 number where basically misheard lyrics. 75 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,240 This is kind of that OK where you are kind of mishearing the 76 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,560 name and hence assume it to mean something else. 77 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,440 And it kind of makes sense because people of that 78 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,880 profession hang out or are found at this location fairly 79 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,200 commonly. Obviously, is this a famous 80 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,600 place? Like something that we were 81 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,640 afraid. It is unfortunately or 82 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,320 infamously notoriously associated more with the 83 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,120 massacre. So that location X massacre is 84 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,400 actually something you could Google and you would see a fair 85 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,280 few articles covering it. The massacre occurred during the 86 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:45,560 Emergency at this place in Delhi and it's famous for that. 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,600 Basically, there's demolition and rioting again. 88 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,600 Massacre, perhaps? Maybe a little loaded word, but 89 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,320 there definitely was demolition and rioting during the 90 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,120 emergency. The Emergency. 91 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,200 So I'm guessing this is Sanjay Gandhi related. 92 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,320 But that won't lead you to the name. 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,280 I mean, of course, the emergency situation might have been 94 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:07,680 because of Sanjay Gandhi. Possible, probable, but won't 95 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,920 lead you to the answer X&Y. Can you tell me if it's New 96 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,800 Delhi or Old Delhi like New Delhi or Purani Delhi? 97 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,600 Right. So I already told you that this 98 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,320 is based off of somebody back in the 11th century. 99 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,160 So it is part of the Old Delhi area. 100 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,520 I haven't told you exactly what kind of a location it is yet. 101 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:31,280 No, you haven't. You would find this in the list 102 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:34,240 of gates of Delhi. There is a Kashmiri gate, right? 103 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,280 But that's not you were talking to people of a profession, not 104 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:38,960 of a particular place congregating. 105 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,840 Yeah. OK, here's how I would approach 106 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:44,840 this. Right, OK. 107 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,840 The name of the Sufi St. has given the name of the gate as 108 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:52,440 well. Difficult to guess the name of 109 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:53,800 us. We say that unless you're very 110 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,200 well versed with the history of that particular period and 111 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,960 error. So what I would do is I would 112 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,080 approach why first, right? So I told you this is a Monte 113 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,280 Green or rather a misheard name because of a certain profession 114 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:08,440 that makes sense because of the profession of the people who are 115 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,760 there. The reason that those profession 116 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,560 or those people or the people that occupation hang out over 117 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,480 there as much is because there are a lot of eateries there. 118 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:23,960 So these people who perhaps need to stop at eateries for 119 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,640 sustenance for for whatever their meals of the day they 120 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,320 gather. Everybody needs to stop at an 121 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,640 eatery for sustenance. Not every profession needs you 122 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,200 to, you know, go to an eatery and get food. 123 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,960 A lot of a lot of obviously people do. 124 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,480 OK. It eliminates white collar 125 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,200 workers, right? It's not going to be the 126 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,080 engineer gate. It won't be a doctor's gate. 127 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,840 Considering the condition in which AIMS is, I wouldn't be 128 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:53,800 surprised. OK, don't give me. 129 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,520 Hate. I think this is this is humor 130 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,600 directed towards doctors. So I I don't even know it sounds 131 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:03,960 funny, so I'm going to laugh. OK, no dude, I I really don't 132 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,440 know this. I'm like I you'll have to give 133 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,920 me some some other clue. Try give me something from the 134 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,920 emergency thing. I might get something from that 135 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,320 because I more likely to know that rather than. 136 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,080 So let me tell you what happened during the emergency. 137 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,480 That should maybe give you a hint. 138 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,440 Okay. During the emergency, Indira 139 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,520 Gandhis government was trying to clear out slums and, you know, 140 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,400 unofficial residences and people occupying certain spaces. 141 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,080 And this has been done obviously with force and without the 142 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,760 consent of the people. The people at this specific 143 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,880 location. X of I have already told you 144 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,480 it's a gate. So dash gate. 145 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,720 The residents of this place refused to move because they had 146 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,280 apparently been residing in this area. 147 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,240 This has been a occupied area since the Mughal era. 148 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,800 So they had been around for for at least a few centuries, right? 149 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,280 There have been generations living there. 150 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,200 So they refused to move. OK. 151 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,760 On 18th April 1976 the police opened fire. 152 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,480 I guess there was killing, there was violence, and a lot of 153 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,280 protesters died in that process. This is. 154 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:17,080 Also classic emergency tactic where the media was was muffled, 155 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,360 was told not to speak about it. This was this involved 156 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,600 bulldozers and everything, right? 157 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,680 Yes exactly. They were told not to speak 158 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,040 about it. Indian public, Indian general 159 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,320 population actually heard about it through BBC like it was on 160 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,720 the main sources of information and news because Indian news 161 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,360 media was not even covering it. I I remember this, yeah. 162 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,640 Indian news media. This is Sanjay Gandhi and 163 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,080 Jagmohan I think who were blamed. 164 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,920 There was a Commission which was established after this. 165 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,400 I'm trying to remember the name. I know the event you're talking 166 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,920 about. The name is stuck somewhere 167 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,000 behind the back of my head. I can't even say the back of my 168 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,200 head. It's stuck somewhere behind the 169 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,800 back of my head. Give me a clue, like something 170 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:01,920 regarding to the name. It'll click. 171 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,400 I guarantee you will click. Give me a clue. 172 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:06,720 So I told you roadside E trees. OK, this should probably be a 173 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:07,920 very direct clue. OK. 174 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,520 Specifically when you think of North India and you think of 175 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,000 roadside eateries, what do you think of? 176 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,880 Dhaba. Perfect. 177 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,680 And who would be the most frequent visitor? 178 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:19,920 What kind of a profession, rather, would be the most 179 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,600 frequent visitor toward dhaba? Lorry drivers, Truck drivers. 180 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Almost there, almost there. 181 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,840 Always there. You you practically said the 182 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,360 name. OK now, now I get your other 183 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,360 clue with me Sir. Names Turkmen. 184 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,480 Perfect. Exactly. 185 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:39,320 So in William Dalrymple's book, he says that people sometimes 186 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,160 miss, hear or misquote or mispronounce the name as 187 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,440 Truckman Gate. Where it is, It is Turkman Gate 188 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,240 and the name of the Sufi leader, Sufi St. 189 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:56,640 Shah, Turkman Bhayabani, that's who it is named after. 190 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,440 So that's the history of it. It's been around for that long. 191 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,800 Very unfortunate incident happened during the emergency. 192 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,320 And the estimates vary from all the way from like some 193 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,600 government sources and people say 6 people were killed, eight 194 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,440 people, 2012. So somewhere in that range and 195 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,040 very brutally, brutally killed. There was a rioting, there was 196 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:23,320 demolition, forced demolition. And yeah, the Turkmen gate has a 197 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,720 bloody history. But yes, this funny component to 198 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,560 it is people sometimes assuming it's called Turkmen Gate. 199 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:32,600 OK. I did not know the truckman part 200 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,320 of it and I did not know that it was named after Sufi St. 201 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:40,200 I thought Turkmen, you know, Turk because many of our like 202 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,640 the Mughals and you know, there were, you know, Turks coming in 203 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,760 Turkey Turk. I couldn't find a lot of 204 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,680 resources about this Sufi St. I'm assuming he might have the 205 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:52,080 middle name Turkmen as a reference to where he's from. 206 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,120 The grave of this person is actually located quite close to 207 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,480 the gate. Oh, OK. 208 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,280 Somewhere in the 12th or 13th century, if I'm not wrong. 209 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,880 So it's located near the gate. It's named after this person. 210 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,800 The truckman part, I assume wouldn't be something the locals 211 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,640 mess up, would probably be people who are visiting and and 212 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:17,040 if you see TURKI think your brain sometimes is process it 213 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,520 and truckman. And apparently there are a lot 214 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,840 of eateries there. So so people who are driving 215 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,360 trucks and lorries, as you said, do stop by very often to to grab 216 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,840 a meal. OK. 217 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,720 Very nice, very nice couple of TI LS for that question for me. 218 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,920 Thank you, Ayush for your question. 219 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,960 Yes, Thank you, Ayush. Yeah, you're one of our regular 220 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,760 contributors and that should, again, I should give a public 221 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,960 announcement on this. You know, you should not be 222 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,440 selfish. You should share such questions 223 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,840 with me because for every 5 questions or emails that Aditya 224 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,640 receives with questions from the audience, I get like 1. 225 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:53,440 So I'm feeling a little left out here people. 226 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,800 So make my life also a little easier. 227 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,120 You know what I've realized? I've been tracking our social 228 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,640 media like an idiot all the time, just checking how our 229 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,640 reels are doing. A very bad habit. 230 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,640 But what I've realized in the process is initially I assumed 231 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,160 that, you know, you were the brains behind this operation. 232 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,000 And I just came for some stupid, silly jokes and for the glam 233 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,160 quotient. And I figured out I don't even I 234 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,080 don't even bring the glam. It's it's that glorious beard of 235 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,920 yours that is getting all the views. 236 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know what I'm here. 237 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,840 I think I'm just the sounding board. 238 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,480 Obviously, I am the audience foil. 239 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,240 And are you quizzing me? Because I don't know a lot of 240 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,000 things. Yeah, the audience gets to 241 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,840 either figure it out along with me or yell at me being like, how 242 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,840 do you not get it? My dad messaged me the other day 243 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,720 and he's like, how did you not get that question? 244 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,440 And I'm like, wow, my dad doesn't even like trivia that 245 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:47,920 much. Oh, God. 246 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,160 OK, that doesn't speak that behavior question. 247 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:59,560 OK. So moving from that to something 248 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:02,120 that we usually don't kind of deal with, so which is why I'm 249 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,200 going to that. So we don't deal with a lot of 250 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,320 artsy fartsy questions primarily because Aditya is the only 251 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,320 person who is artsy or fartsy. No, just artsy so. 252 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,960 Depending on what I hate, yes. OK, so this is a question 253 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,400 hopefully right up his alley. Art Deco? 254 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,560 Have you heard of Art Deco? Oh, isn't it? 255 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,040 Oh my God, like it's been it's I'm spending too much time on 256 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,680 Instagram. It's some some song which is 257 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:29,880 trending on reels. You are so art Deco and I'm 258 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,960 butchering the the tune of the song as well. 259 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,280 But yes, OK, I know art Deco. Obviously Mumbai has a lot of 260 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,760 art Deco in in at least the down area. 261 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,840 OK, this is now a redundant question, but I'm going to ask 262 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,760 it anyway. You can decide whether to keep 263 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,200 this in or not. So the question was going to be. 264 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,800 Art Deco is a decorative style of visual arts, architecture and 265 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,280 product design that emerged in Paris in 1910s and flourished 266 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,280 internationally in the 20s and the 30s. 267 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,680 Named after 1925 Paris exhibition, it is characterized 268 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:07,520 by bold geometric shapes, sleek and stylized forms in the use of 269 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,320 opulent materials and rich colours. 270 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,760 This style, which embraced the modern machine age, is seen in 271 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,880 everything from skyscrapers to furniture, jewellery and cars. 272 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,200 X is home to the world's second largest treasure trove of Art 273 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,120 Deco architecture, right after Miami. 274 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,280 Known for its geometric forms, nautical motifs and pastel 275 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,200 colors, the buildings here are a testament to a golden era of 276 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,680 modernist optimism and colonial era aspiration. 277 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,960 Can you name the city that transformed its skyline in the 278 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,360 1920s and 40s and it was iconic? Art Deco gems stand proudly 279 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,520 along a famous Crescent shaped Blvd. 280 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,880 Could you give me a hint? Could you give me? 281 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,520 This question, which took me a lot of time to phrase, was 282 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,760 cracked even before I asked the question. 283 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,200 This has to be a first. This has to be a first I think. 284 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,080 Yeah, this is the first. This is the first. 285 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,920 Like, I didn't even get the question out, but yes, the 286 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,800 answer is Mumbai. Mumbai is renowned not just for 287 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,960 its vibrant culture and bustling streets, but also for its 288 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,720 remarkable Art Deco architecture. 289 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,480 After Miami, it holds the world's second largest 290 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,080 collection of these buildings with over 70 structures 291 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,720 primarily around Marine Drive. A long curving promenade along 292 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,120 the Arabian Sea that locals called the Queen's Necklace 293 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,800 because of the streetlights that sparkle like pearls in the 294 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,960 night. Which is weird because I've 295 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,440 never seen Pearl sparkle on the right. 296 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,040 Most of these buildings were constructed in the 1920s to 40s 297 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,080 when India's was still under British rule. 298 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,480 Architects adopted the Art Deco style and nautical teams, 299 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,520 reflecting Mumbai's coastal location. 300 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,320 Notable buildings include the Regal and Eros Cinemas as well 301 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,120 as many residential apartments, all showcasing vibrant pistol 302 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,840 colours and elegant designs. In 2018, Mumbai's Victorian 303 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,480 Gothic and Art Deco ensembles, including those along Marine 304 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,960 Drive, were recognized by UNESCO as World Heritage Sites, further 305 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,680 highlighting the city's architecture and cultural 306 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,480 importance. So the next time you think of 307 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,840 Mumbai, picture not just skyscrapers and Bollywoods and 308 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,680 slums, but also sun kissed Art Deco shorelines. 309 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,240 Yeah, so that's the question, which, annoyingly, Aditya 310 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,920 cracked even before I could get a word out. 311 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,800 But then I have myself to blame. I shouldn't have to ask him, you 312 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,640 know. Do you know what I can't take? 313 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,840 Is it just ask the question? I should have stopped at the 314 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,960 Instagram real song. Yeah, no, I actually love those 315 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,680 buildings. And there's there's a very 316 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,720 specific iconic style of the lettering of the name of 317 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,840 whatever the building is or the usually it's a residential 318 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,360 building. So whatever the name of the 319 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,840 society is, it's written and it's written in a very specific 320 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,960 font. Any designers out there who are 321 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,880 who are from Mumbai and know what I'm talking about, please 322 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,320 send it to us. I would love to know what it's 323 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,960 called. And it's written in the specific 324 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,600 location, right, Right where you're entering at the foyer of 325 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,000 the building. It's right above it. 326 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,839 So when you're driving past, there is a standardization of 327 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:07,440 it. And yet each building is 328 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,119 different and unique, like the designs are very clearly their 329 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,839 own, but the overall picture has a cohesion to it. 330 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:16,599 And this is beautiful to drive along Queen Drive, Queens 331 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:20,640 necklace along Marine Drive and yeah, just appreciate that. 332 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,560 The names are also pretty cool. The one that I don't know why 333 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,040 this word has always stuck with me. 334 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,280 Firdos and I remember this one building that I always cross 335 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,560 whenever I'm crossing that road for those is right there. 336 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,400 So yeah, that's a pretty lovely part of Mumbai. 337 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,240 OK, because this was a question that was cracked even before it 338 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,160 was asked. So there was another question I 339 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,640 had lined up for an audience question because Aditya would 340 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,880 have cracked it in two seconds. But since he's already cracked a 341 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,640 question, let me just put it to him anyway. 342 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,160 X is a town near Lucknow, UP your neck of the woods. 343 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,560 Yeah, it is infamous for a Train Robbery that took place between 344 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,160 X and Alam Nagar in 1925 under British rule. 345 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,840 It's also famous for its delicious kebab that is made 346 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,240 with mincemeat and is often considered the softest kebab in 347 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,960 the world. He's already smirking. 348 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,880 He already knows what this is. What kebab or what place I'm at? 349 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,600 What town am I talking about? And bonus points if you can tell 350 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,120 me who conducted the famous robbery. 351 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,440 I don't know how to put this it's a little embarrassing that 352 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,040 I know this not because my well you keep calling let know my 353 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,200 neck of the words. I barely ever stayed spent any 354 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,880 significant time there. But yes, my parents are 355 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,120 originally from there. So I don't know this piece of 356 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:36,480 fact because of my MyHeritage. I don't know this fact because 357 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,440 I'm a student of history or even though I do consider myself that 358 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,560 or I'm a food connoisseur, even though I do consider myself 359 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,080 that. I know this because of 360 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,560 Bollywood. I know this because of my 361 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,920 favorite movie, Ramdevasanti. Ramdevasanti and Avir Khan's 362 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,800 dialogue where he's talking about Kakuri Mehum looting a 363 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,640 train, looting a mass Angrezaka paisa Jaraya. 364 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,360 Sorry, I'll translate that. Avir Khan's character is saying 365 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,560 that he's going to that they're going to be robbing the Kakuri 366 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,800 train because the money of the Britishers is going to be going 367 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,320 through that and do a random passerby. 368 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,720 Or there's a little kid who's there and he literally calls 369 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,480 that kid and he's like Kaka Renge. 370 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,400 Yeah, the kid doesn't know, and he's like Kakuri. 371 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:21,440 Kakuri basically implying that he's going to eat the kebabs 372 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,800 while he's looting the train. Yeah. 373 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,680 I'm hoping Ragnar Vasanti did not fudge the facts too much. 374 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,560 So I remember in that movie, they showed Aamir Khan's 375 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,520 character who plays Chandrasekhar Azad. 376 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:40,200 That person, he was there. I believe Ramprasad Bismil was 377 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,480 also there. There you go. 378 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,600 And I'm basing this all of. Ragdevasundi. 379 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,040 Yeah, it is. Ramprasad Bismil. 380 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,080 Yeah, yeah. Kakori gained infamy for a 1925 381 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,200 Train Robbery also called the Kakori Conspiracy. 382 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,760 Try saying that five times in a row Where revolutionaries from 383 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,880 the Hindustan Republican Association stopped the train 384 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,760 between Kakori and Lucknow's Alumnagar station on August 9th, 385 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,720 looting government treasury bag. The number 8 down train from 386 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,480 Shah Jaanpur to Lucknow usually carried tax collection. 387 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,040 Rajendra Lahiri pulled the chain near Kakori, allowing Ram 388 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,480 Prasad, Bismil and others to seize about 4000 to ₹8000 before 389 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,680 fleeing and talking about the Kakori kebab. 390 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:28,240 Originating in Kakori, this Audi delicacy is considered one of 391 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,480 the softest kebabs that you can get and is made from for those 392 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,680 who are interested, finely minced mutton thigh meat mixed 393 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:42,000 with kidney fat, spices, cashew paste, gram flour, rose petals 394 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,080 and poppy seeds. Ground multiple times. 395 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,800 Oh that sounds delicious. Oh I like how gram flour and 396 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,680 rose petals. What are rose petals doing in 397 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:52,200 there? I love it. 398 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,880 Nice. Oh yeah, Lucknow is famous for 399 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,080 using rose petals. Doesn't even a rose petal 400 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,680 biryani? OK, you can't. 401 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,040 You can't say these things because Lucknow is my neck of 402 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,640 the woods, so I should. We'll be knowing it, so I'm 403 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,200 going to say it. OK. 404 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:03,800 Yeah. Yeah. 405 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,320 Lucknow is famous for rose petals. 406 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,960 Vineet. There is a biryani also with 407 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,320 rose petals. OK, so now that you've made Mint 408 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,480 sweet out of my question, pun intended, let's go ahead with 409 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,440 whatever it is that you've got up your Kitty. 410 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:19,520 All right. OK. 411 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,800 So Speaking of Northern India, Speaking of well, UP, which is 412 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,000 also the area where Ayodhya is. So I'm going to talk to you 413 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:35,640 about another audience question. And this comes from Puneet and 414 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,800 he said this question, it's a Ramayan based question. 415 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,520 Oh God, Puneet said this question to me to use for a 416 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,360 Diwali episode. That's how we I die. 417 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,920 Oh dear God. So apologies, Puneet, but hey, 418 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,760 here I am doing this offseason, OK? 419 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,920 But you know what? Any time of the year is good for 420 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,440 some lovely mythology based trivia. 421 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:03,640 OK, so OK, as you know, the story goes that Hanuman had come 422 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,160 back from Lanka and he told Ramji that you know what, Sita 423 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,400 is there and you'll have to go rescue her. 424 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,840 She's waiting for you. And of course, being the the 425 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,640 dutiful person that he was, he decided that he's going to go 426 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:21,440 over and in the process, he had to cross the ocean where he had 427 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,960 to build a bridge or he had to get across it somehow. 428 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,920 The Samudra God Samudra being seas or ocean in Hindi. 429 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,320 The Samudra God refused initially, apparently refused 430 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,200 for three days straight and left with no option. 431 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,680 Lord Ram picks up his bow and loads the brahmastra onto it 432 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,360 right because he has to get his way across. 433 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,920 At this point the Samudradev is the God of the Seas. 434 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,640 He comes back and says that you know what I will let you go 435 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,320 through and he even tells him how he can do that using a 436 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,520 bridge and you know, get the the Varaner Sena to help him build 437 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,160 the bridge to Lanka. But now here's a conundrum. 438 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,760 I will not tell you what the conundrum is yet because I feel 439 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,080 like you'll crack it too quickly. 440 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,800 There is a conundrum that Lord Ram faced in this moment. 441 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,880 What was the conundrum and what was the solution that he came up 442 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,760 with? The the answer is in the 443 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,960 description I've given so far, but take a crack at it. 444 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:27,920 See if you can figure it out. The sea God tells him, the God 445 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,920 of the oceans tells him that. Write your name on the stones 446 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,080 and the Varanasena can build a floating bridge all the way to 447 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,080 Lanka, correct? And at this point Lord Ram faced 448 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,760 A conundrum. And your question is what that 449 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,520 conundrum is? Exactly. 450 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,480 Lord Ram faced a problem, a conundrum. 451 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:52,200 There was something that was an issue that he needed to resolve. 452 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,360 What is the issue? How did he resolve it? 453 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,000 Did he not have any writing material? 454 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,280 I think that part of the story comes a little later. 455 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,360 Not yet. OK, I have already told you. 456 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,320 Actually the part of it that is the Karandrum, I have already 457 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,680 mentioned it in the description. So you don't have to think about 458 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,280 Ramayan from anything else or any other part of the story. 459 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,480 There is so much rich mythology there, but you don't have to 460 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,320 worry about any of that. Whatever I have mentioned so 461 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:24,240 far, the Karandrum is in it. I can't think of any conundrum, 462 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,560 honestly speaking, because he came there. 463 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,000 He knows where Masita is. He knows he has to get there 464 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,560 from point A to point B. And he was initially like, how 465 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,640 do I cross? Now he knows how we can cross 466 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,920 it. He has the manpower, he has the 467 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,360 logistics. So what conundrum is he facing? 468 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,600 OK, so before the Samudra dev relented, and the reason 469 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,480 probably that he relented because he did not want to face 470 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,600 the consequences is what the problem was rooted in. 471 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,120 So what happened before some of the dev relented? 472 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,560 He prayed first and then he did the Brahmastra thing. 473 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,280 Correct. So in the second part of what 474 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,200 you just said is where the Karandraman lies, the Brahmastra 475 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,160 part of it. Oh, that once you wield the 476 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,560 Brahmastra, you have to let it go. 477 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,960 You have to release it. Perfect. 478 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,280 Once the Brahmastra is loaded and again not very clear how 479 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,880 that mechanics of it work. But yes, once it is in that 480 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,440 position of of being fired, it is prepared and prepped. 481 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,080 It has to be used. It cannot not be used. 482 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,640 OK. That is a problem now because 483 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,640 some of the devas relented and the Lord Ram has a solution to 484 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,920 get told Sri Lanka. How would he then? 485 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,560 Or where would he rather use the Brahmaster? 486 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,920 So where did Lord Ram use the brahmaster that he had loaded 487 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,080 and that he had threatened Lord Varuna with? 488 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,320 Right, That's the question, correct? 489 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,920 He didn't discharge it. I don't remember. 490 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,240 He discharged it. As the rules dictate, he had to 491 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,600 he had to use the weapon. He he did use the weapon. 492 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,960 No, but he used it later, right in the Ramayan. 493 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,360 Well, as as the mythology goes, there are obviously multiple 494 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,880 versions of this story or the small slight nuances that change 495 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,000 from from one version to another. 496 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:19,520 OK, perhaps I don't know which which specific version this 497 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:25,640 listener question is from, but yes, in this case the this part 498 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,920 of mythology at least says or states that Lord Ram had to fire 499 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,320 the weapon and so he did. So he must have fired it at some 500 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,680 place and that would have caused something to be created or some 501 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,800 place to get its name or something like that. 502 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,000 Yes, you are right. Not the name part, but yes, some 503 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,840 place that was created in that moment. 504 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:51,160 Wow, Rameshwaram seems too easy to say. 505 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,560 Obviously not that. No. 506 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,880 Place where legend says it was created when Lord Ram discharged 507 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,760 his Brahmastra. Little clue. 508 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,040 OK, so because it's a powerful weapon, it, it obviously yields 509 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,280 so much strength, it's going to 'cause something significant, 510 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,000 right? Like you would imagine, like it 511 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,240 would be a massive crater or something like that. 512 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,040 In this case, I'll ask you to focus on the fact that he is 513 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,000 near the ocean. So he has to do something in 514 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,800 that area, in that specific region, I guess. 515 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:30,000 So it's not going to be like, I don't know, like in the 516 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,160 foothills of Himalaya, right? It's going to be in that area. 517 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,560 Oh, Dhanush Kodi. Oh, interesting. 518 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,840 What is that? I don't know, it's not the 519 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,040 answer, but what is? Dhanush Kodi. 520 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,480 No, Tanushkodi is a, it's a village along the lights on the 521 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,720 border of Tamil Nadu. Like it's right on the ocean. 522 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,040 It's a, it's a ghost town now after the famous cyclone of the 523 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,240 1960s. But yeah, Tanushkodi for a 524 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,080 second. Like I'd be like Tanushkodi 525 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,240 like, I don't know. No, it's not. 526 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,600 It's not. Is it something to do with it? 527 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,920 Like, you know, there are no deserts because see, I'm 528 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:01,880 assuming that when the Brahmastra strikes, it's going 529 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,440 to be like total devastation. So you're going to talking about 530 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,000 destruction something, but there are no deserts anywhere near 531 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,160 that place. OK, now, so I was going to tell 532 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,120 you the second thing that you can focus on, I said ocean. 533 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:15,280 The first thing, second thing you can focus on is the 534 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,120 etymology of this name. And it's not like this place had 535 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:20,440 not even heard of the the the ghost one that you mentioned. 536 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,560 I had not heard of it. This place everybody in India 537 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,920 has heard of, right? OK. 538 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,200 The etymology of the place kind of relates to the repercussion 539 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,840 of using Brahmastra. So in the Brahmastra was used in 540 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,040 that place, something happened. And what happened is literally 541 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,920 the etymology of the place. Rude. 542 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,360 What? Something happened. 543 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,360 The last thing I'll tell you, and this is part of the question 544 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,240 that our listener has sent that he kind of fired it in the 545 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,160 opposite direction. So not not exactly 180° but but 546 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,720 if you know where Sri Lanka is and where you would be if you 547 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,480 were the southern tip of the country, what would the opposite 548 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,480 direction look to? Is still ocean based not not 549 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,240 towards the mainland. He sent it to this Arabian Sea. 550 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,640 Very good, very good, very good air was there. 551 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,440 Is this? Lakshadweep. 552 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,960 Exactly. So Lakshadweep where the 553 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,840 etymology obviously means Thousand Islands. 554 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,440 Apparently it was one giant landmass and because the 555 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,840 Brahmastra landed on it, it it split up into thousands and 556 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,440 thousands of small islands. Wow. 557 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,800 OK, that was the power of Brahmastra and that's where the 558 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,720 name Lakshadweep comes from, which means Thousand Islands. 559 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,760 Lakshadeep was, according to this lovely piece of mythology, 560 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,240 it was formed because Lord Ram had to use Brahmastra once it 561 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,760 was loaded and he did not want to use it in the towards the 562 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,680 Samadharadev. So he chose to go in the 563 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,280 opposite direction towards this well back then apparently 564 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,120 uninhabited island. And then he split it up into 565 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,840 1000 parts. Wow, I did not know. 566 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,400 I know, right? Sometimes our listener questions 567 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,520 are so good, like I'm just like, where do you guys come with such 568 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,720 good trivia? Yeah, this is this is just 569 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,800 fascinating. Wow, wow. 570 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,680 So a happy Diwali to Puneet discussion. 571 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,480 OK, that was embarrassing. I should have known that which I 572 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,760 did not. Let me try to redeem myself by 573 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,440 asking a similar mythology related question. 574 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,360 An ancient Buddhist text. I am probably going to murder 575 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,600 this pronunciation, but OK. An ancient Buddhist text. 576 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,320 Sadharma Pundarika Sutra, also known as the Lotus Sutra. 577 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,720 List X as one of the 8 Great Dragon Kings. 578 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,800 X gained cult status in China and Japan for rain making 579 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,480 rituals embodying devotion and power. 580 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,040 However, long before all of this, X existed in early 581 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,520 religious texts on the Indian subcontinent. 582 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,640 In modern times, the name resurfaced far from myth. 583 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,160 Scientists applied it to a newly discovered prehistoric species 584 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,480 found in India. The choice was deliberate. 585 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,560 The creature that was discovered, it's immense size 586 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:23,680 and presumed dominance echoed the symbolic stature that X had 587 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,800 in ancient belief systems. So I I wanted to identify X. 588 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,080 Prehistoric creature, Did you say that? 589 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,680 Yes. So scientists discovered a 590 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,600 prehistoric species in India, and so they named it after X. 591 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,360 OK. Is it a dinosaur some some sort 592 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,600 of dinosaur that is founded in India? 593 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,080 In the same, I wouldn't say family, but I've forgotten my 594 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,560 lenient classification. But yeah, it's a it's a 595 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,280 prehistoric big thing, big creature, Yeah. 596 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,240 It's very simple. Would this be appropriate to use 597 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,120 in a Jurassic World movie, or would it not? 598 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,920 That's how you classify things. Just just don't overthink it. 599 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,840 Similar kinds of movies like Jurassic Park but not Jurassic 600 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,120 Park. Oh, got it. 601 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:11,040 So Godzilla got it, Yeah. It's not Godzilla, it's Gojira. 602 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,240 Well, since you are in India, not in Japan, I assume that's 603 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,640 not the right answer, sorry. Could you repeat the information 604 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,280 about the name? Commonly known as the Lotus 605 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,360 Sutra. Lists X as one of the 8 Great 606 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,600 Dragon Kings. So just so annoying that I don't 607 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,400 even know the name of a single dragon king that I would be even 608 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,080 remotely close to figuring out. Oh, you know this by the way. 609 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,520 No, I'll need a hint. Long before the Buddhism part, 610 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,360 it existed in early religious texts on the Indian 611 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,360 subcontinent. This particular character was 612 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920 seen in religious texts on the subcontinent. 613 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,480 I will tell you the texts. OK, It's been mentioned in the 614 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,080 Rigveda, it's been mentioned in the Mahabharat and many other 615 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:59,500 similar texts. Hello. 616 00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:02,860 They look frozen. Yeah, no, no, for a second I 617 00:33:02,860 --> 00:33:05,260 thought you were meditating as if the answer would come to you 618 00:33:05,260 --> 00:33:14,400 if you meditate it hard enough. Yes, I was invoking the gods and 619 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,960 since they have not answered I'll have to figure this out on 620 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,840 my own. It was in the requiser. 621 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,400 Yes. As what? 622 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,920 Like it's a dragon king according to Buddhist 623 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,080 literature. I'm not going to tell you 624 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,080 exactly what that translates to in Hindu literature, because 625 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,480 that would be giving away the answer. 626 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,160 Oh, OK. Because I was just wondering, I 627 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,520 don't remember any dragon kings featuring in in in the Hindu 628 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,400 text. I'm assuming there is a 629 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,480 variation on that or there is some sort of a modification for 630 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:44,920 it. OK. 631 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,840 One last clue. OK. 632 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:53,080 The depiction of this creature I would be highly surprised if I 633 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:58,160 would did not find it at your parents home or in most Hindu 634 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,600 households. And this is one of those, like, 635 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,080 I remember going through our old episode and see that Raj 636 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,520 question. And I'm like, how did I not know 637 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,120 that? Yeah, right there in front of 638 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,600 you. Oh, this is right there in front 639 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,080 of almost everybody. OK, I've already told you what 640 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,040 the required and mahapratas. So the connection is obvious 641 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,320 that it is originated in the Hindu floor or the Hindu 642 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,040 mythology and then was appropriated or borrowed into 643 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,880 the Buddhist mythology and then traveled from India to China and 644 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,520 Japan and whatnot, right. The mythological being, or the 645 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,480 mythological creature that I'm talking about is highly depicted 646 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:36,639 in photographs and iconography in India. 647 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,719 Most Hindu households usually have a depiction of this 648 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,840 creature in their home. They may not, however, realize 649 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,159 it, or it may not get that much attention. 650 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,199 I have definitely not realized it. 651 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,320 Oh OK. Is there any other hint? 652 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,440 Any other clue? OK, so the next clue I would 653 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,640 give you is what's the difference between a western 654 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,160 dragon and an oriental dragon? This is based off of the 655 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,280 depictions that I remember from from whatever Chinese pop 656 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:14,520 culture western Dragons usually like have have some sort of a 657 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,520 limb situation. Chinese Dragons don't they? 658 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,160 They just are like the Serpentine thing, OK with the 659 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,200 head of a dragon breathing fire. Yes, you've kind of got near the 660 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,320 answer in your just in what we just said right now. 661 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:31,480 So Serpentine, so like Nagaraj thing, but like Nagaraj 662 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,640 representation that is there everywhere. 663 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:36,840 I can't think of that. So normally people would like 664 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,600 this is 1 specific snake. Now that I've come to the point 665 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,080 that it's a serpent, it's a serpent. 666 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:48,080 So this is 1 specific serpent. And which serpent would you find 667 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,760 depicted in almost any Hindu household? 668 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,640 Okay, clearly I have not paid too much attention. 669 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,000 Oh, you're going to kick yourself. 670 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,800 When you say snake, the one thing that does pop up in my 671 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,840 head is the birth of Krishna. Yes, Krishna was protected when 672 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,480 he was being transported by Vasudev. 673 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,040 Yeah, that was the Sheshna. Cheshna, yeah. 674 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,320 Yeah, but this is not the Sheshnaag we're talking about. 675 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,320 Because yes, the Sheshnaag has a lot of iconography, but you're 676 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,000 not going to you're not likely to find it in almost every Hindu 677 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,080 outsold, right? Did I say Nagaraj? 678 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,840 By the way, Nagaraj is superhero comic. 679 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,280 Never mind. No, I thought you were being 680 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,040 literal, as in King of the Snakes. 681 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,320 So. Yeah, let's pretend that that's 682 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,960 what I'm going to say. I I was going through the the 683 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,480 Nagaraj comics recently since second mad no. 684 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,800 So yes, Sheshnaag, but that's not a common depiction. 685 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,640 You're right. Oh, then there's the other one, 686 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,960 which is, which is, I think it's, I want to say Lord Vishnu, 687 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:54,760 who's who's resting and there's a snake under whom he's resting, 688 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,600 right? Yes, yes. 689 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,040 Again, I mean, yes, common enough in in in some depictions, 690 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,000 but like universally I don't think of it. 691 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,880 It's not as universal as the depiction that I'm talking 692 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,320 about, because most of the time you have Vishnu in his various 693 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,200 other forms being depicted throughout the house. 694 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,560 Correct, Correct. Correct. 695 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,040 Yeah. I don't think it's like the 696 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,960 Anantha Shayana image of him reclining on a snake. 697 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,040 Coils of a snake is not like the universal depiction. 698 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,000 But what I'm talking about is a universal depiction in which you 699 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,480 find the snake people are screaming the answer or to to 700 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,440 their. Stop it please. 701 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,960 Please stop screaming. It's very loud. 702 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,680 Just please guys I'm not able to think. 703 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:39,640 Stop yelling at me. No, I'm, you know, put me out of 704 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,920 my misery. Tell me what the answer is. 705 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,360 OK, so the answer is Wasuki. I'm not fully embarrassed 706 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,720 because I mean, I'm partially embarrassed because this does 707 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,560 ring kind of a bell. But again, I'm I feel like I 708 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,200 this is a blind spot. So tell me more. 709 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,160 Wasuki, if you don't know, was one of the king of the Nagas. 710 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,280 OK. He was used famously by the gods 711 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:07,280 during the Samudramantha. Oh my God, that is how did I not 712 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,880 think of that? That's one of actually one of my 713 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,240 favorite like, mythological stories. 714 00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:14,000 Samudramantha. Oh OK, I'm embarrassed fully 715 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,160 now. Yes. 716 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,880 Now can you guess? As in what depiction of Wasuki 717 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,920 is found in almost every Hindu household? 718 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,560 Yeah, actually that's what I was wondering. 719 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,800 I was thinking of like the Puja Ghair in a lot of Hindu 720 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,560 households, yes, and certain images of gods that are there 721 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,440 and I couldn't think of a single like a specific universal snake 722 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,240 based representation. Vasuki, I know the story I know 723 00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:43,000 that used the mountain and Vasuki was was kind of kind of 724 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,080 facilitating the mountain with the mountain. 725 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,800 He was used as the rope to churn the ocean. 726 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,040 But that is not a depiction that we see everywhere. 727 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,440 Brace yourself for this. OK. 728 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,240 Who do you think is the snake around Lord Shiva's neck? 729 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,120 That is Vasuki. That is Vasuki. 730 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,200 I know, Auntie. Oh, God, this is so stupid. 731 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,960 Yes, of course there is a snake around SH Shiva's neck. 732 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,280 And I know that he was the one who? 733 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,040 And then when Sumdir, Mantan. And then Shiv Shiv drank the 734 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,360 freaking poison as well. Oh my God, this is stupid. 735 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,040 Yeah, I'm more than fully embarrassed. 736 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,480 I've crossed that. I'm so satisfied that you know 737 00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:29,160 I've managed to stump one question today because you've 738 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,080 been literally running through all my questions like a freaking 739 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,680 freight train for all our listeners who may or may not be 740 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,520 familiar with this. So I'm going to give you a 741 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,480 complete explanation. Vasuki is a giant serpent who 742 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,240 originates in Vedic scriptures like the Rigveda. 743 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,040 Also seen in the Mahabharata as the sovereign of the Nagas or 744 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,760 the King of the Nagas was Serpenti. 745 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,680 He was famously used as the rope by the gods to churn the ocean, 746 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,840 an episode in the Purana in the Hindu Puranas, Revered in 747 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,120 Hinduism also as Shiva, Lord Shiva's neck ornament, Vasuki 748 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,080 symbolises control over ego or poison. 749 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,320 The Wasuki was named among the 8 great dragon kings. 750 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,920 Now the depiction of Dragons in western mythology is more 751 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,720 dinosaur like exactly and the depiction in East Asian 752 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:27,680 countries is more serpent like. Right, right, right. 753 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,320 Right, and funnily enough the 8 great dragon kings were called 754 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,440 Nagarajas in the Lotus Sutra which is a core Mahayana text. 755 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,520 These Dragons protect or proclaim the Sutra. 756 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:45,360 Vasuki also known as Vashukitsu in Japanese, gained cult status 757 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,480 in China, Japan for rainmaking rituals. 758 00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:53,120 Wow. In 2024, IIT Rurki researchers 759 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,680 unearthed what we now call as the Vasuki Indicus fossils from 760 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:05,200 Gujarat. So this was a 11 to 15 meter 761 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,440 long one ton weighing snake Python like ambush predator 762 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,400 which ruled the swampy coasts and they named it after the 763 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,600 mythological Wasuki for its size and dominance. 764 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,360 Wait, is that the largest snake? 15 meters. 765 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,440 It's a pretty big snake. OK because I just googled it and 766 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,040 it says anacondas are the word. I'm talking about currently 767 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,440 existing snakes, not not extinct snakes. 768 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,600 And that goes up to 20 feet. That's definitely less than 15 769 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,120 meters. I'm not sure if it's the largest 770 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,000 because I think the titanoboa and a few other like very large. 771 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,960 I don't know the figures off my top of head. 772 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,520 But anyway, in any case, they found a really large snake in 773 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,200 India which would have been huge, so they named it after the 774 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,240 king of the serpents. In Hindu mythology, it's called 775 00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:56,680 the Vasuki Indicus. Wikipedia Sir tells me that 776 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:02,240 Vasuki Nag or Vasuki is the second king of snakes after 777 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,280 Shesh Nag, who is Vasuki Nag's elder brother. 778 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,680 So Shesh Nag, under whom Lord Vishnu is arresting, is the 779 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,560 elder brother of the snake who's wrapped around Lord Shiva. 780 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,320 Yeah, that's pretty cool. I like it. 781 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,280 OK. So your question. 782 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:22,720 Alright, so Speaking of things we all should know and sometimes 783 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:27,080 we don't because we are also a little sleepy, this has to do 784 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,680 with the story of Alexander the Great. 785 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,800 One of those those things that is perhaps beyond just ancient 786 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,840 Greece, right? Like it has been told and retold 787 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,040 across the world. So Alexander the Great is a 788 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,720 story that has been told through the eras, through the countries, 789 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:45,920 through the world. Yes, but the first ever 790 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:51,680 depiction of that story in film was in X. 791 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,080 OK. Tell me what X is. 792 00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,040 Where was the first ever depiction of Alexander the Great 793 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,400 on? Film, you'll have to give me a 794 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,720 clue. OK, so interestingly enough, 795 00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:09,920 this film was in 1941 and was then remade in 1965 in Eastman 796 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,120 Color. In the case of the 1965 remake, 797 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,000 the person who played Alexander the Great in 1941 played a 798 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,520 different character was in the 1965 remake as well, but played 799 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,240 a different character in 1965. I don't know if this leads you 800 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:28,600 to the answer, but yeah. Nope, it does not read me to the 801 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,200 answer. I have no clue what this is 802 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:36,000 going to be about 1940 and the 1965. 803 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,680 For a clue, what I would tell you is a little bit to do with 804 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,840 the cast of the films, right? I mentioned that the lead or the 805 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,600 person who played Alexander the Great in the 1941 film played a 806 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,040 different character in the 1965 film. 807 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,520 In the 1965 film, the person who played the character of 808 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:58,080 Alexander the Great was an actor who didn't start off with acting 809 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,600 as his profession or as his career was actually in the 810 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,640 sporting arena. So this person who played 811 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,320 Alexander the Great in the 1965 remake started off with their 812 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,400 career in the sporting arena is no longer around, but you 813 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,880 obviously know these people also, but eventually move to the 814 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,280 acting space and that's where the later half of their life was 815 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,720 spent. OK. 816 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,440 The person who played Alexander the Great in 1941 film and a 817 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,160 different character in the 1965 film. 818 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,800 That person is one of the greatest actors of that 819 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,360 generation. Somebody played Alexander in the 820 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,720 1965 film who came from sports, correct? 821 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,440 The person who played Alexander in the 1941 film played a 822 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,880 different character in the remake of the 1965 remake, 823 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,000 correct? Last year, one of those Cecil 824 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:55,840 DeMille kind of movies. This old Hollywood studio movies 825 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,320 can't remember anything specifically with Alexander 826 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,600 because like from the early times of cinema, like from the 827 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:08,640 1910s onwards, now the first, the first trend in movies was 828 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,600 all mythological epics. So you had like Ben Hur made 829 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,960 like twice or thrice medieval kings and Robin Hood and those 830 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,640 kind of things. Yeah, Cary Grant or somebody 831 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,120 played Alexander. OK, I love this question. 832 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,480 Again, another listener question. 833 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,840 Shout out to Roshni. Thank you so much for sending 834 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,520 this question. OK, let. 835 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,960 Me give you a little bit more about the person who played the 836 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:39,920 1965 Alexander. OK, He went to Singapore in 1947 837 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,360 and he worked in a drum manufacturing mill and that's 838 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,160 where somebody looked at his physique here, 6 feet 2 I 839 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,680 believe and told him that he should actually be a wrestler. 840 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,760 So that's the sporting space that he started off from. 841 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,200 This is Dhara Singh. Oh very well done. 842 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,440 Yes, so that are saying plays Alexander the Great in the 1965 843 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,040 film. Want to take a guess in the name 844 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,400 of the films maybe 19411965 films maybe you don't know 845 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:10,480 though the names are very, very easy to get. 846 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,040 But do you want to take a guess as to who played 1941 Alexander? 847 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,840 So I'm guessing he's also Indian. 848 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,840 Perfectly cracked. Yes, both. 849 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,520 That's why I love this piece of trivia that the first ever 850 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,520 representation of Alexander the Great story, which is again 851 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,400 something that a lot of people across the world know was in 852 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,560 India, was in, well, Bollywood cinema. 853 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,160 So I'm guessing this is Indian so this would be Sikandar. 854 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,400 Perfect. Yes, that's the name of the 1941 855 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,800 film. And I'll tell you the name of 856 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:44,400 the 1965 film which was remade. It is Sikandar E Azam. 1841 is 857 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:50,040 too early for Raj Kapoor, right? You're like one step away from 858 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,360 the answer. One step away from Raj Kapoor, 859 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,200 Prithviraj Kapoor. Exactly, I was going to give you 860 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,320 a hint. I'll tell you about the hint. 861 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,720 But yes, you are right. Prithviraj Kapoor played the 862 00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:04,160 character of Sikandar in the first ever film made about 863 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,040 Alexander the Great, in which he played Alexander the Great in 864 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,000 1965 when this was remade. Do you want to take a guess as 865 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,320 to who Prithviraj Kapoor played in that remake? 866 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,000 We are talking about an Indian adaptation. 867 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,560 Dhara Singh was Alexander in the remake, so Prithu. 868 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,880 Raj Kapoor would play somebody else equally prominent. 869 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,760 He wouldn't play a side role. So then I'm guessing he played 870 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,320 the Indian side of the equation. Poru. 871 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:32,400 Perfect. My man knows his history well, 872 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,440 you are smart enough to figure it out even if you didn't know 873 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,160 it. He did play King Porous or 874 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,800 Parva. OK, that was the the switching 875 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,680 characters in the remake 24 years later. 876 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,960 The hint I was going to give you by the way, and this is just 877 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,240 something when I first came to Bombay, it was such a one of 878 00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:52,600 those just memories that are stuck with me when I moved to 879 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:53,920 Bombay like 4 years, five years ago. 880 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,680 OK, I love theatre, I love cinema. 881 00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,760 I went to one of the best theatres in Mumbai, one of the 882 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,160 most reputed spaces. People in Mumbai would have 883 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,560 heard people who are into the arts in India would know it's 884 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,640 called Prithvi theatre and literally named after Prithvi 885 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,120 Raj Kapoor. I went there and I, I was like, 886 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,320 you know what, I want to come watch a show. 887 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,360 I saw what I was playing and I have picked a random show and I 888 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,160 went to the ticket counter. I'm like, can I get a ticket? 889 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,640 They gave me the ticket and I was going to pay. 890 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,400 And I was new to using UPI app. So I brought up my phone and I 891 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,320 scanned the QR code. It literally says pay to 892 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,800 Prithviraj Kapoor. Oh, wow. 893 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,160 It doesn't use a Prithvi Theatre or whatever. 894 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,040 Yeah, I love that. I don't know who thought of that 895 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,800 little touch. I think it's it's it just makes 896 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,040 it somehow more magical for me. So I paid money to Prithviraj 897 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,720 Kapoor and I went and watched a play at Prithvi Theatre. 898 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,240 Well, I. Don't know where Roshni found 899 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:51,040 this beautiful piece of trivia, but yes, turns out that India 900 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,800 was the first place. Shabash Roshni, That's a 901 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,520 fantastic piece of trivia. I swear, the quality of 902 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,440 questions that our listeners have provided, Yeah, may 903 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,000 embarrass me a teensy because all three questions have been so 904 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,840 good. Yeah. 905 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,320 All right. So let me wrap up today's 906 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,240 episode with the final question. Yeah. 907 00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:17,280 This word for a fundamental mathematical function come from 908 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,480 Sanskrit where it means bowstring. 909 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,720 It travelled from ancient Indian mathematics through Arabic 910 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:29,280 translators who confused its name, leading to its modern 911 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:34,080 English form meaning curve. Its partner, meaning the chord 912 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,800 of a complementary angle, shares the same journey. 913 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,440 What are these two key mathematical terms which share 914 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:45,040 its origin from Sanskrit? So it it has to do with the bow 915 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:51,160 string, bow and arrow string, but it has been mistranslated to 916 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,640 something to do with the you said curves, circles, chords. 917 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,920 Yeah. Yes, curve, curve or fold. 918 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,360 And it's used in the in a mathematical context basically. 919 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,400 In mathematics, yes. It's an English word, it's more 920 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,240 a Hindi word, or both. What is it? 921 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,120 We know the Latin form of the word. 922 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:12,120 Something Is it curve or fold? Arc arch? 923 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,680 Nope, neither of those make sense. 924 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:15,760 Mathematical. No. 925 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,440 So go a little more technical. Radian degree. 926 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,760 You're in the right ballpark, but wrong terminology. 927 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,960 Circumference, radius, diameter. I would suggest that you focus 928 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,440 on the fact that I said that there is this this term and then 929 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,920 there's a complementary term. Things which are mentioned side 930 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,480 by side. In math. 931 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,400 Differentiation, Integration plus or minus? 932 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,120 No. Give me some hint. 933 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,200 OK, I'm going to give you a mathematics hint. 934 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,400 I literally did this for my 10th standard exam. 935 00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:54,400 OK. You would write root of 0 by 4, 936 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,080 root of 1 by 4, root of 2 by 4, root of 3 by 4, root of 4 by 4. 937 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,840 OK and I would give you a set of values that you don't have to 938 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,480 remember. You don't have to by heart. 939 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,600 You can just get the values from that like in two seconds. 940 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,400 This. Is nothing do with the value of 941 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,040 π right? No, it's not. 942 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,120 Nothing to do with value of π. I would suggest solving for what 943 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,480 I just mentioned. You just said root of 0 by 4. 944 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:19,160 Yes. Like sqrt 0 by 4. 945 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,160 Yeah, it's a, it's a mnemonic, so obviously I had to. 946 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,520 You have to make mnemonics consistent for them to work. 947 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,360 Right, sqrt 0 by 4 is sqrt 0, which is 0. 948 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,520 OK, then root of 1 by 4, then root of 2 by 4, and then root of 949 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:37,000 3 by 4 and root of 4 by 4. 1 by 4 is root of 1 by 4 is 1 by 2. 950 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:44,600 Root of 2 by 4 is one over root 2, Root of 3 by 4 is root 3 / 2. 951 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,960 What? I don't know what to do with any 952 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,000 of these things. That does not ring a bell. 953 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,280 No, what? What? 954 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:57,560 No, nothing at all. 01 by two, one by root 2, root 3 / 2 955 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,160 Fibonacci. No what? 956 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,920 No, nothing. Oh dude, you're going to kick 957 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,840 yourself. You are so going to kick 958 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,520 yourself. How much do you want me to kick 959 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,320 myself in this one episode? OK, I really thought that you 960 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,840 would get this one. You know what I I, I used to, I 961 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,200 used to at least at some point I remember being good at math. 962 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,480 So I, I'm a little embarrassed I've not gotten it yet. 963 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,160 This is supposed Oh, sign and cost. 964 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,480 This is sign and cost. This is Oh my God, this is 90° 965 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,960 thirty degree 60° and whatever 9060 thirty zero. 966 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:36,280 And if the first value is 0, then that is I want to say sine 967 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,720 0 is zero. Yeah, I think Cos 0 is 1, yes. 968 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,360 We never got to one or we have stopped at root 3 by two. 969 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,360 OK, so we did zero, we did 3045 sixty. 970 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,680 We didn't do 90. Got it. 971 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,400 OK, OK, OK. Yeah, I mentioned 90 root of 4 972 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,320 by 4 but. Root of 4 by 4 also. 973 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,680 OK, OK, OK, OK. I never use this mnemonics. 974 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,200 That's it probably didn't strike me, but interesting that is. 975 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,560 That makes so much sense. Yeah. 976 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:06,400 And you're saying that this has to do with sine and Cos has to 977 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,200 do with the something to do with the Bose string? 978 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,600 Yes, OK, so this is fascinating, by the way. 979 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:16,440 OK, The words sine and cosine started in ancient Indian 980 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,760 mathematics with the Sanskrit term Jia. 981 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,760 OK. For sine, which means Bose 982 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,600 string describing how a chord in a circle behaves. 983 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,200 Of course, because it's a chord, right? 984 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,520 Yeah. Yeah, travelled into Arabic as 985 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,600 Jiba, so Jia became Jiba. OK. 986 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:41,920 Later mistranslated into Latin as sinus meaning curve or fold. 987 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,480 I don't know that is what the word means, but OK. 988 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,720 Interesting. So sign is the English form of 989 00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:51,520 this Latin word. So it went from Jia to jiba. 990 00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:56,960 It was mistranslated from jiba into Latin as sinus and from 991 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,640 sinus we got sine. OK. 992 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,240 Cosine comes from the Sanskrit kotijiya. 993 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,880 Oh, interesting. Meaning the chord related to the 994 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,800 complementary angle. Right, right, right. 995 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,000 Both words reflect centuries of mathematical knowledge moving 996 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,400 from India through Arabic scholars to Europe. 997 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,160 Right. So sine and cosine have their 998 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,480 origins in instant Sanskrit. Codicia sounds closer to 999 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,280 cotangent caught, but OK, maybe probably over years and 1000 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,120 mistranslation is probably going to cost. 1001 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,920 Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. 1002 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:30,720 Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah. 1003 00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:32,200 Two things that are always mentioned together. 1004 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,760 For those who are interested, if any parents are listening and 1005 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,200 their children are struggling with trigonometry, the easiest 1006 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,320 way to remember the trigonometric table is very 1007 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,280 simple. Make columns of 0304560 and 90. 1008 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,800 You start with sine, Cos, and then tan in your rows. 1009 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,000 For sine, you start with root of 0 by 4, root of 1 by 4, root of 1010 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,080 2 by 4, root of 3 by 4, and root of 4 by 4. 1011 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,840 Those values give you the sine values of those particular 1012 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,320 angles. Reverse that order for Cos, 1013 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,560 divide sine by Cos and you get tan. 1014 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,520 And that's it. Your kid never has to remember 1015 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,720 trigonometry table ever again. They can just work it out in 1016 00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:16,720 like 2 seconds. And just do the reverse of that 1017 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:20,800 and you'll get cosecant and secant and cotangent as well. 1018 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,400 Cotangent, yes. Since I'm you're sharing this 1019 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,920 trivia, do you know where sign Cos? 1020 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,920 And the third thing you didn't mention, where is the etymology 1021 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,040 of that from? Oh, this is going to be some 1022 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,280 silly joke. I can just see it from the smirk 1023 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:38,800 on your face. So people in Europe noticed that 1024 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,720 people in South Asia were much darker, and they're like, oh, 1025 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:44,760 that looks like a good tan. Yeah. 1026 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,080 It's offensive on so many levels. 1027 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,120 I'm an Indian. I can. 1028 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,480 I can make those jokes about as brown people, yeah. 1029 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,840 Right, just don't know what to do with you. 1030 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,480 I want to thank my maths teacher. 1031 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,840 Yeah, yeah. Jamila, Miss and Shekhar Sir who 1032 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,040 drilled this into me when I was in 9th and 10th and I still 1033 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,280 remember it. I can still write out a 1034 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,400 trigonometric table what 30 years later? 1035 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,640 They did a good job. My math knowledge rescued me in 1036 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,080 the end, so shout out to Mega ma'am and Thomas Sir. 1037 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,360 I'm sure there are a lot more along the way, but these two 1038 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,120 come to mind. So yeah, thanks. 1039 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:27,560 Yeah. OK. 1040 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,960 So I think that's the end of today's regular round of 1041 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,360 quizzing. What's left is for us to now 1042 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,960 answer the audience question which I had asked at the 1043 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,840 beginning of today's episode. In Piers Egan's 1821 book Life 1044 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,640 in London, two young men from London become famous for their 1045 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,800 mischievous adventures, setting a cultural trend for lively, 1046 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,520 rowdy behaviour. Their name later inspired a 1047 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,680 popular festive American drink, a mixture traditionally made 1048 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,120 with eggnog, Brandy and spices, often enjoyed during the holiday 1049 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,040 season. What are the names of these two 1050 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,800 iconic figures whose legacy became synonymous with something 1051 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,800 else? Are there you have any idea? 1052 00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:08,920 Life in London it it became a drink and then a legacy which is 1053 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,120 entirely unrelated to either of those two things. 1054 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,240 Somewhat related too, but not completely, but in a completely 1055 00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:18,320 different field. So are these common English 1056 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,600 names or with these very obscure English names? 1057 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,720 Very common English names. This can be the version of Tom, 1058 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,240 Dick and then Harry. You are tracked onto it. 1059 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:35,440 You are 1/3 right. Tom, Dick or Jerry with Jerry? 1060 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,440 Oh my God, Tom and Jerry. Yes, this is the origin of Tom 1061 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,680 and Jerry. OK, that makes a lot of sense. 1062 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,040 Yes, so Tom and Jerry were characters in the book. 1063 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,840 After Pierce Higgins book popularized the names as symbols 1064 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,320 of mischief and adventure, it entered popular culture, 1065 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,320 inspiring the Tom and Jerry cocktail. 1066 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,880 That is insane. Yes, When the animation studio 1067 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,000 was developing their famous cat and mouse duo, they held an 1068 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,680 internal contest to rename the characters, who were originally 1069 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,520 called Jasper and Jinx. I know that, yes. 1070 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,320 Jasper and Jinx, yeah. Animator John Carr suggested Tom 1071 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,920 and Jerry, drawing on the cultural familiarity and playful 1072 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,920 spirit associated with the names. 1073 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,120 The studio embraced the suggestion, recognizing that the 1074 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,280 names would resonate with audiences and evoke the same 1075 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,360 kind of mischief and adventure found in Egan's book and 1076 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,160 associated with the cocktail. This connection helped cement 1077 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,200 Tom and Jerry as iconic figures and animation. 1078 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,840 Yeah, that's I, I should have guessed. 1079 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,200 I think that another smart guess would have been Laurel and Hardy 1080 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,800 as Oh yeah, but Tom and Jerry makes a lot of sense as well. 1081 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,040 Yeah, so that's all we have for today's squeezing. 1082 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:46,560 Before we wind up this episode. Aditya, any pop culture 1083 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,640 recommendation? OK, so pop culture. 1084 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,480 Been watching a fair few things, taking full advantage of 1085 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:57,120 December, and so I have quite a few things lined up to recommend 1086 00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,480 over the next few episodes. For today's episode, I'm just 1087 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,040 going to recommend 2 films that I watched recently. 1088 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,800 Both were a lot of fun from a genre that when done well, can 1089 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,000 be so satisfying but often is done poorly. 1090 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,080 So very glad that in these two scenarios, it was done superbly. 1091 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,960 The first one is an older film. It's a Hitchcock film. 1092 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,400 I'm talking about Dial M for Murder. 1093 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,720 Classic. Yeah. 1094 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,040 So murder mystery. Just just so good. 1095 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,480 I had not seen it before I realized that you can see it on 1096 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,440 an OTT platform. I think you have to pay on some 1097 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,960 of them, but it's a nominal fee. So if you are interested, go 1098 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,080 check it out. Dial M for Murder. 1099 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,640 Great film. Great, great film. 1100 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,240 Like, genuinely, no comments, Hedgecock. 1101 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:44,360 Good job. Yeah. 1102 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,360 Yeah. And the other film, Since I 1103 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,520 spoke of film from more than a few decades ago, I'm going to 1104 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,520 talk about a very, very recent film. 1105 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,160 I think it's not even been a month. 1106 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,840 And that is the third film in the Knives Out series. 1107 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,080 I don't know if I've recommended the 1st 2:00, but in case I 1108 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,480 haven't, those two count that as well. 1109 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,840 Both are a lot of fun. The first one is brilliant. 1110 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:12,520 Glass Indian, not as good but still a strong, strong film in 1111 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,600 the genre. And the third one a lot of 1112 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,960 critics have said is the best out of the trilogy. 1113 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,960 I would put it definitely at par with the first one and and 1114 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,200 somehow I think it resonated deeper with me like the third 1115 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,600 film. The first one was a great film, 1116 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,120 so much fun. The third film just had a 1117 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,960 stronger heart, I would say to it, and that the name of the 1118 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,640 film is Wake Up Dead Man, a Knives Out mystery. 1119 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,080 I think that's what it's called, Wake Up Dead Man, Knives Out 1120 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,520 mystery. It's a very recent film and I am 1121 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,000 for murder. It's an old Hitchcock film, both 1122 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,240 of them from the thriller murder mystery department and just 1123 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,480 beautifully done. Ryan Johnson, Alfred Hitchcock, 1124 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:57,080 people who clearly know what they're doing and shout out to 1125 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,680 Daniel Craig. So good. 1126 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,720 OK, I would have to disagree with you a little bit here 1127 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,560 because I would rank the original Knives Out movie as 1128 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,800 being much better plotted than Wake Up Dead Man, though it was 1129 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,280 quite intriguing. I would say the plotting wise 1130 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,640 the original Knives Out takes the gate. 1131 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:18,680 I agree with you. So that's what I said. 1132 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,640 So when when the critics were saying that this is the third 1133 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,600 one is the best of the series, I wasn't totally sold on that 1134 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,560 because the core of like a Oh my God, what a brilliant plot that 1135 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,800 I felt much more strongly in the first one that I did in the 1136 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,080 third one. So I get what where you're 1137 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:33,920 coming from. Yeah. 1138 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:40,040 Nice. OK, I would definitely like to 1139 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,000 echo Aditya's recommendation of dialect for murder. 1140 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,520 It's a fantastic murder. I would also like you to check 1141 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,080 out A Perfect Murder, which was a remake with starring Michael 1142 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,040 Douglas and Vigo Mortensen, which can combine the few 1143 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,080 characters, but it's still, yeah, fantastic. 1144 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:56,960 More. And I don't know if you know 1145 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,800 about Hamras, starring Bobby Deol and Akshay Khanna, who's 1146 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,480 the Flavor of the Month was also a remake of Broadly, was 1147 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,280 partially inspired by Dial Info Murder. 1148 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,120 Oh. OK. 1149 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,600 And so was the movie New Year, which was part of our New Year 1150 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:14,840 quiz, which I had posted on our. Subreddit Great, great, great 1151 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,240 quiz. The great weekly question Top 1152 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:19,560 top marks to you. You know what? 1153 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,440 Rand Johnson, Alfred Hitchcock. Vineet, Nair. 1154 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,080 Little too much. You can all definitely check 1155 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,280 those out, but what I personally consider this is just a personal 1156 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,640 opinion to be a slightly superior Hitchcock film, which 1157 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,400 is Rope, which is infinitely more tense. 1158 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:42,080 It's short as to be in real. Time the audacity, the hotspot 1159 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,320 to be like, I'm going to shoot the entire film in single film 1160 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,040 where I think each reloads only 10 minutes long back then. 1161 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,680 So you could literally not have seen for longer than 10 minutes 1162 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,240 and he's like, I'm going to shoot a full film like that is 1163 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,440 is just kudos to that man. But the one thing I'll say is 1164 01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:02,320 the edits are so blatantly jarring and obvious that it's 1165 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,120 like it takes me out of the film a little bit. 1166 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:05,760 The film is solid. Film is tired. 1167 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,040 It's a great film, but the edits are a little funny. 1168 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,440 That's what I would say. Unintentionally funny, but. 1169 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,960 See, this is a movie shot in the 40s, so we'll have to. 1170 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,320 Give I'm sure when it came out, it's the same thing, right? 1171 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,600 Like when you see it for the first, like Star Wars today. 1172 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,880 Looks very junky. Obviously it doesn't feel like 1173 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,600 revolutionary CGI. Looks very jaggy. 1174 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,720 So one other movie that I would recommend is a recently released 1175 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,040 sequel called Raat Akeli Hai, The Bansal Murders. 1176 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,960 I really enjoyed the original Raat Akeli Hai and I also 1177 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,760 enjoyed the sequel Nawazdin Siddiqui and Radhika Apte among 1178 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,000 others. I wouldn't call it a great film, 1179 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,160 but it's definitely a great OTT watch. 1180 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,760 So definitely go check that out. And because I have to be the 1181 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,440 solo flag bearer of Southern Indian movies, I will now 1182 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:57,840 recommend Sarvam Maya, which is a very fun, very light ghost 1183 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,120 story. Like I have no other way to put 1184 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,800 it. It's like the lightest, most 1185 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,520 feel good ghost stories that you've seen. 1186 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,480 So go check it out. It's running in theaters now. 1187 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,400 OK, interesting. And that's all we have for 1188 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,480 today's episode. Thank you all for listening in. 1189 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,200 You can reach out to us on our socials which are there in the 1190 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,080 episode description. Please like, share, follow, 1191 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,800 subscribe based on whichever platform you're seeing or 1192 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,440 listening to. Us too and go join our community 1193 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,280 on subreddit on Reddit. Subreddit is R slash. 1194 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,120 Are you quizzing me? It's got a burgeoning community 1195 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,720 there. We post daily questions and 1196 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,200 encourage listeners and members of the subreddit to also post 1197 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,240 their questions. Plus there is a slightly bigger 1198 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:43,960 question every bigger question set every Thursday can check out 1199 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,160 that as well. See you guys next week. 1200 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,280 And now Aditya has nothing to say all. 1201 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,680 Right. You do this to me every single 1202 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,480 week. Monita, I'm going to see you 1203 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:57,840 next week, OK? Not if I see you first and I 1204 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:12,810 have the last laugh 123.