1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,800 Welcome to Are You Quizzing Me. I am Vineet Nair with my Co host 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,840 Aditya Kashyap. This is a quizzing trivia 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,920 podcast show. Join us as we dive deep into 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,440 history, science, pop culture and so much more. 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:20,960 Let's get quizzing and we're back for episode number 88 of 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,400 Are You Quizzing me? Your favorite quizzing and 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,880 trivia podcast show. Aditya and I are back for 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,240 another round of quizzing. And let's start off without much 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,680 further ado with the audience question. 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,040 The audience question for today, which I will answer at the end 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,840 of today's episode is as follows. 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,440 And I think, Aditya, that you like this particular question 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,960 because it's one of your type of questions. 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,440 It's a listicle. Yes, Aditya has brought me over 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,640 to the dark side. So the listicle for you, my dear 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,440 audience, is this. I'm going to give you a series 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,560 of names, and you have to tell me what, or at least you have to 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:02,360 guess what these have in common. And these are the names Pierre, 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:11,600 Bismarck, Augusta, Montgomery, Lincoln, Madison, Austin, and 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,920 Jackson. I will repeat the list. 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:19,840 Pierre, Bismarck, Montgomery, Augusta, Lincoln, Jackson, 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,480 Madison and Austin. What do these have in common? 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,360 What is in common with all these names? 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,880 I will answer this question at the end of today's episode. 25 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,160 At this point, I would also like to acknowledge a message that we 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,960 received from one of our loyal fans, Mr. Aryan Sapla, who 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,960 suggested that we should have questions for the audience, 28 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:46,680 which would be answered in the next episode. 29 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:49,120 Aryan, thank you so much for your message. 30 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,480 Unfortunately, the reason we don't do that is because we 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:58,400 don't always record our episodes in chronological order because 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,640 we do this by ourselves. We don't have a team backing us 33 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,080 or anything, so we do this completely solo. 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,120 So many times we have to work around each other's schedules so 35 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,160 we don't always record our episodes in chronological order, 36 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,720 which would make it difficult. If we have a live question 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,840 though, we are looking to do something maybe similar to that 38 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,440 on Instagram in the future, but nothings worked out as of now. 39 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,240 So it's just going to be a little tease for you. 40 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,560 But thank you Aryan for your messages and please be aware 41 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,520 that we are taking it into consideration and we may have 42 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,400 something for you in the near future. 43 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:38,000 So let me hand over the baton to Aditya and see if he has a 44 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,720 question for me which hopefully will stop me. 45 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,480 And that's not a flex or a brag of any kind. 46 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,600 I'm seriously feeling that I'll be stumped today. 47 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,280 Yeah, it just sounds like you do have a little bit of a sore 48 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:55,560 throat we need, but knowing you that should not value even one 49 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,680 bit. I expect, as always, sheer 50 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,760 brilliance and display. So, and just because of that, 51 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,280 I'm going to start with a question that I know both you 52 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,240 and I love. Since you gave me a listicle, 53 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,240 I'm going to give you something that you love as well. 54 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,320 And this is a little story. Tell me if you know how or what 55 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,680 etymology does the story lend itself to? 56 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:26,120 So the story goes, in 1709 the British writer John Dennis wrote 57 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:31,840 A Tragedy Appears and Virginia. It was a distinct reworking by 58 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,280 Dennis of an older play by the same name by John Webster. 59 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,800 It was not a particular success on its debut. 60 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,040 It so happened that the critics and the audience didn't quite 61 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,800 appreciate it or like it, and hence it was cancelled soon 62 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,560 thereafter. What followed this play at the 63 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,760 same venue was the Scottish play. 64 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,680 So Macbeth played right afterwards. 65 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:01,320 Interestingly, Macbeth decided to reuse something from appears 66 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:07,600 in Virginia and John Dennis, who was not aware of this particular 67 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:13,280 reusing of his play remnants. I guess keeping it a little 68 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,519 vague just in order to stump you, they'll feel like you'll 69 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:19,880 get it immediately. John Dennis not sure or not 70 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,240 aware that this this thing was happening. 71 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,880 He went to watch the play to support the odds, and as he was 72 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,120 watching the play and he realized that they were reusing 73 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:34,160 something of his, he stood up and yelled by God, the villains. 74 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:41,480 And then this particular phrase that I beseech you to tell me 75 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,480 what was its etymology to the 1709 incident? 76 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,400 I've heard the story somewhere, but for the life of me can't 77 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,920 remember what the place is right now. 78 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,720 Leave it to you to ask a theatre question in a theatrical 79 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:56,560 fashion. Notice. 80 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,680 OK, can you give me the phrase again though? 81 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,360 At least the first part of it that he shouted out. 82 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,600 OK, there are a couple of versions, a couple of people who 83 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:10,200 are attending that that that day of the plays enactment, remember 84 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,400 him standing up and shouting in indignant indignation this 85 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,320 phrase. And it went something like this. 86 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,480 He said damn them, they will not run my play or they will not let 87 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:26,080 my play run but dash. And it's a phrase, right? 88 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,560 Yeah. Flog a dead horse? 89 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,360 No. No, no. 90 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,200 They reused a prop. Was it something with the prop 91 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,960 or something or something? I know the story, everything. 92 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,640 I've heard the stories. You said, is it a prop? 93 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,680 Let me help you out a little bit over here. 94 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,600 It's not exactly a prop, but let's say it was some sort of a 95 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,480 technical small technical breakthrough, a little 96 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,360 innovation. Something wrong with the 97 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,080 lighting? Something to do with the sound. 98 00:05:54,320 --> 00:06:01,080 The sound steal my Thunder. Yes, it was stealing my Thunder. 99 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:08,120 As the story goes, as the story goes appears in Virginia. 100 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,080 The play had a moment where they needed to be the sound of 101 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,120 Thunder. And this particular director had 102 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:20,680 devised this device, I guess, or whatever, some sort of an A way 103 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,280 to produce very convincing Thunder sounds for the theater 104 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:27,080 audience. And it was being used in apps in 105 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,280 Virginia till it was cancelled. And then when Macbeth was 106 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:32,560 playing over there, they decided to reuse it for one of the 107 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,960 scenes, one of the dramatic scenes. 108 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,880 They wanted that Thunder sound. And so they reused this, this 109 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,640 whatever this machinery or whatever it has that he had come 110 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,560 up with. So when he saw this, he stood up 111 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,360 and he cried. Damn them. 112 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,040 They will not run my play, but they steal my Thunder. 113 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,920 And that's how the most commonly accepted etymology of this 114 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,920 phrase is attributed to John Dennis. 115 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,600 OK, that's nice. That's nice. 116 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:08,520 It's a very how do I put this apartment description steal my 117 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,640 Thunder. For some reason it seems better 118 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,000 in many days even though it has a theatrical origin. 119 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,400 Let's move on from that to something for which I am very 120 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:23,360 sure I will get lynched because I'm going to cheat a little bit. 121 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:29,280 But let's see, because I really saw, I saw this fact and this 122 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:34,280 was the only way I could probably put this question and 123 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,640 give you the fact at the same time. 124 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,760 OK? While these are popular pets in 125 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,440 the US and many Western countries, it is illegal to own 126 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:48,160 one of these in Switzerland. The common name for these pets 127 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:53,280 is an actual misnomer and is not used by breeders who tend to 128 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:59,480 call them cavy, as in CAVY. What pet am I talking about? 129 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,880 Some sort of a pet? Is it some breed of a dog? 130 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,200 Some specific breed of a dog. No, not a dog, but it's as I 131 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,840 mentioned, I'm going to read the question word to word because 132 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,920 I'm that's my first. I'm not going to be able to 133 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,960 rephrase this question because this is practically the only way 134 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,320 I can ask this. While these are popular pets in 135 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,120 the US and many Western countries, it is illegal to own 136 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,400 one of these in Switzerland. The common name for these pets 137 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:32,480 is an actual misnomer, and it is not accused by breeders, who 138 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,039 tend to call them cavy, as in CAVY. 139 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,280 You know, Sir, recently I've been, and this is I guess the 140 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,520 pop culture recommendation as well. 141 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,320 This is Instagram page called Minute Cryptic and they do 142 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,720 cryptic crossword puzzles. The bane of my existence. 143 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,480 It's a cryptic crossword puzzles, Yeah, for those of you 144 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,080 might not know are are crossword puzzles, but they have this 145 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,080 little bit of world word play happening and you're supposed to 146 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,680 kind of rearrange, reformulate, do anagrams and stuff like that 147 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:03,280 based off of word. Just because you phrase this 148 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,400 question in a certain way, you said you're not allowed to own 149 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,280 one of these in Switzerland. It makes you think that you can 150 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,640 only own them in pairs. And I feel like I've heard this 151 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:17,560 about a certain type of pet in Switzerland, and I know it's not 152 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,640 dogs or cats. I, I want to say something 153 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,040 smaller. Is it like a hamster? 154 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,960 Are you, are you not allowed to own only one hamster? 155 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,880 No. Very close, Very close, very 156 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,960 close. I I OK, I would then point you 157 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,360 towards the second clue in the question, whether the common 158 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,440 name for these pets is an actual misnomer. 159 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,560 Like it's an actual misnomer. The name for these pets. 160 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,360 It's a misnomer. Name for the pet is misnomer. 161 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,920 That's that's that's. The common name, like breeders 162 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,920 call them cavi. But if you said cavi, do you 163 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,400 want a cavi F as a pet? You'd be like what? 164 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,280 But at the same time, if you said the common name, you'd be 165 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,160 like, ah OK, those are cute. Some sort of pet, and most pets 166 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,440 are cute. No, I I will disagree with you 167 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,360 there. I know people who own snakes. 168 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,960 Talk to talk to a snake pet owner and they'll tell you that 169 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,080 snakes are cute. Yeah, I'm not saying this is my 170 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,280 opinion, but I'm saying those own snakes as pets probably do 171 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,000 things snakes and I'm nobody to find them. 172 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,640 But anyways, coming back to this. 173 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,360 So let me just understand this. So if it was the answer was a 174 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,000 dog or if it was a hamster, you're saying the word hamster 175 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,680 is a misnomer. Is that what's made? 176 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,920 Yes, yes. Oh, interesting. 177 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,240 So the common name for this pet is a misnomer? 178 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:34,240 Yeah, What is that? I'm not even sure what that 179 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,400 means. So like, we've been calling it 180 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,960 the wrong name all along. Like a mouse is not actually a 181 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,760 mouse, but it's something. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. 182 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,680 That's that's what. That's exactly what it means. 183 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:48,280 That that clue confuses me. You know this has been happening 184 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,880 recently. Your clues have confused me more 185 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,320 than the actual question. It's just the question was 186 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,880 straightforward in the clue. I need to survive. 187 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,880 I'm taking like very common everyday facts and trying to 188 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,680 craft them into questions which will stump you. 189 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,640 Yeah, we are closing in on three digits on our trivia questions 190 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,640 episode, so we do need to get creative. 191 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,160 I get that. But anyways, coming back to this 192 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,800 cabbie. So, OK, it's not a hamster. 193 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,280 Something close. Mouse or mice. 194 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,160 I get mice. I don't think you need to be in 195 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,920 pairs. Turtles. 196 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,000 I don't think turtles. Goldfish. 197 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,920 No, I don't think it will be a goldfish either. 198 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,240 Because goldfish aren't technical technically, you know, 199 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,360 misnomers because they had to have a golden color and they are 200 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,000 fish. It's a misnomer. 201 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,520 This misnomer thing is very interesting. 202 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,720 Any other clue? Any other clue for what this pet 203 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,880 might be? It's also used as a metaphor. 204 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,400 The name of the pet itself is sometimes used as a metaphor or 205 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,440 the simile. That could apply to anything and 206 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,200 everything. You know, I mean, like, how many 207 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,160 times would you use a hamster as a metaphor? 208 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,040 Oh yeah, that wrong choice hamster wheel. 209 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,480 Yeah. Yeah. 210 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,040 Yeah, that's a wrong choice. Wrong choice. 211 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,800 But yeah, you're right, most pets can be used as pets. 212 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,520 Yeah. OK, let me put it this way. 213 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,760 This is a giveaway, but these are very popular in the science 214 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,920 field or in the field of science, or at least when people 215 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,320 talk about the field of science. Mice, then the Lab Rats. 216 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,440 Yes, but if not Lab Rats, which one? 217 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,760 What do you think about? Not Lab Rats and regular rats. 218 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,680 They have the same function as Lab Rats, but. 219 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,080 If not Lab Rats, then just slightly under qualified rats. 220 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,000 Rats who did not study for the J JRE. 221 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,800 Labs rats without PhDs Pinky in the brain comes to mind. 222 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,320 So no what I'm thinking and OK, so this is the last and final 223 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,640 and very giveaway clue. When you say that you know 224 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,120 something somebody is like being experimented on, you would say 225 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,400 either that they are a lab rat or. 226 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,680 Rabbit. No, I mean like, what's the more 227 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:04,360 common kind of usage? Guinea pig, Guinea pig, Guinea 228 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:06,120 pig Guinea. Pig, Yes, yes, you got that. 229 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,200 You got that. Yes, it's a. 230 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,400 Pig. Yes, of course. 231 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,120 Oh yes, of course. That's a misnomer. 232 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:10,640 Right. Yeah. 233 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,960 So it's neither from Guinea, neither is it a pig. 234 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,080 So it's a complete misnomer. They belongs to a group of 235 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,280 animals called cabbies, right, which are type of rodents. 236 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,360 So the capybara, which are very, very cute Guinea pigs, they all 237 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,320 belong to that kind of category. But yeah, so these are Guinea 238 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,240 pigs, where the name itself is a misnomer because it's neither 239 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,640 from Guinea and neither is it a pig, and because these are 240 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:39,200 intensely social animals who are affected quite seriously when 241 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,720 they are held solo in Switzerland. 242 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,600 You can certainly buy just one Guinea pig. 243 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,720 It's not as they come in multi packs, like in a six pack of 244 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,120 beer. But Guinea pigs are very social 245 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,320 animals and according to the law may not be kept on their own. 246 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,040 You have to provide a mate. So you can't own just one Guinea 247 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,600 pig. You you can obviously buy one 248 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,240 Guinea pig, but that's only if you already have a pair ready 249 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,640 for it at home. I had to word that it's illegal 250 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,240 to own one of them in Switzerland. 251 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,200 You can actually own as many as you want, but you can't own just 252 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,160 one. 11 I've read this. One cool, so nice crack. 253 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,960 Awesome, great question, fun question and as I said, a 254 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,280 cryptic crossword. Go check it out on I think it's 255 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,200 called minute cryptic on Instagram. 256 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,520 This person does one cryptic crossword clue everyday. 257 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,880 Fun, fun little page to follow. Coming back to my question, I 258 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,040 would love to ask a question from an audience member and this 259 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,200 has been in my e-mail for a while, so it's been almost a 260 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,640 month. So apologies. 261 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,040 And this is from a listener who has sent questions before. 262 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,600 We have Doctor Rakesh back at it. 263 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,840 Oh. God I love it, Rakesh. 264 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,360 I love the fact that you keep sending questions, but why only 265 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,480 do this bugger? I'll tell you why, because 266 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,800 Doctor Rakesh has mentioned yet again, and I think he mentioned 267 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,960 in the previous episode as well that he misses my pun questions. 268 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,440 He misses my questions with all the puns. 269 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,040 And that is something of a tradition that are you accusing 270 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:11,080 me As for some reason discarded. And I can only blame one person 271 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,840 for this, and that is entirely me. 272 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,360 I have to take the blame. What it did was my decision to 273 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,320 stop it. But having said that, thank you 274 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,200 Rakesh, for, for saying that you enjoyed them a lot. 275 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,440 You know what? I'll throw in a pun, at least 276 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,880 one pun in this episode and that's dedicated just for you. 277 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,560 So rest of the listeners, I don't care if you don't like 278 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,840 that pun, if Doctor Rakesh likes it, that's that's achievement 279 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,080 unlocked right there. The rest of us are Guinea pigs. 280 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,960 See what I did there? I cannot believe once in a while 281 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,160 that's not about at. All I know it's not. 282 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,520 I realized at the moment he left my mouth, but then I was 283 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:44,600 committed to the blade. So. 284 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,480 Yeah, that is commitment. I appreciate that. 285 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,840 OK, so we are going to talk about a logo. 286 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,640 A logo designs. A lot of logo designs have 287 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,000 lovely trivia behind them. This one is particularly close 288 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,240 to home for us. This logo was designed by a 289 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,120 student of NID Ahmedabad, the National Institute of Design in 290 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:12,000 Ahmedabad in 1971. Shekhar Khamat is a designer 291 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,120 behind this logo. There has been as because you 292 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,920 already said that there's a misnomer in the previous 293 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,320 question. I guess I'm going to use that 294 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,200 for this one as well. There is some sort of a fake 295 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,920 origin story that has been doing the rounds for for this logo. 296 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,120 And the theory goes that the logo was inspired by the 297 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,280 Kankaria Lake in Ahmedabad, which supposedly has a 298 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,440 resemblance to the logo. If this has been debunked, this 299 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,200 has been fact checked. Shikhar Kamath himself has said 300 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,560 that that isn't the case. He has mentioned that it you 301 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,600 know what, I'm going to hold off on what it actually means 302 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,280 because I think that might be bringing you too close to the 303 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,120 answer. But the fake theory is. 304 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,200 I already know the answer no, no, but I you know, but this is 305 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,280 a, this is a big, this is a big TIL for me because I actually, 306 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,320 The thing is, I've never actually fact checked this, but 307 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,359 I have seen posts on Instagram and Facebook. 308 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,440 I mean it's been there for years where they put the logo and the 309 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,440 picture overhead picture of the lake side by side. 310 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:12,200 And then they say that the locals, I was like, wow, hence 311 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,200 the blue colour and blah blah blah. 312 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,359 I just accepted as a fact, but it's not true. 313 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:16,880 It isn't. It isn't. 314 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,319 It's not true. Shekhar Kamath himself has 315 00:17:19,319 --> 00:17:21,599 debunked this. It's you can find that and 316 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Rakesh sent it to me in the e-mail and he did mention that 317 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,680 it's not true. And then I did my own little bit 318 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,240 of research. Quint has it as well as 319 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,040 verifiably false. Go for it. 320 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,600 Tell us the answer is. Yeah. 321 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,280 So the SBI logo, the State Bank of India logo, it's got like a 322 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,040 circle with a slit, right, going towards the middle. 323 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,200 And that is like a small end. And I've seen pictures of this, 324 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,680 like in Ahmedabad, like I remember Gujarat. 325 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,080 It was very clearly and it does resemble it. 326 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,680 OK, so now you have to tell me what the actual inspiration for 327 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,640 this thing is. This is where it gets 328 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,880 interesting because Rakesh mentions in his e-mail the 329 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,120 answer is that it is inspired from the bank token we used to 330 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:05,120 get while waiting for our withdrawals in front of the 331 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:07,040 teller. I remember those. 332 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,880 I am from the generation where, yeah, we used to be. 333 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,560 I've seen those tokens. Exactly, exactly. 334 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,880 We've used those tokens in so many places apart from bank, so 335 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,600 I feel like I've used those in gaming arcades and stuff as 336 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,640 well. So those, those tokens that you 337 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,560 would have, that would that would probably be given in 338 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,720 whenever you had to stand in a queue somewhere. 339 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:31,240 However, Quint states that Shekhar Kamat has himself said 340 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,440 that the logo signifies a keyhole and has nothing to do 341 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,360 with Ahmedabad Lake. OK, now I'm more confused. 342 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,640 Yeah, so it's a keyhole like the. 343 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,000 For anybody who doesn't know, please go Google what the SBA 344 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,320 logo looks like. But for those of us who are 345 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,520 familiar, it's the blue circle with a little bit of a white 346 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,560 line in between. And that could look like a 347 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,840 keyhole, no? I agree it could look like a 348 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,240 keyhole, but then why a keyhole for SBI? 349 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,960 Yeah. So I think a BA bank token made 350 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,480 a lot more sense to me. But again, Quint is is is not 351 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,720 not a completely baseless organization. 352 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,200 I trust them for the most part. So I, I, I have, I'll give them 353 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,440 the benefit of doubt over here. But if somebody else has any 354 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,760 resources which can point us in the redirection, please do send 355 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,000 us an e-mail and, and let us know. 356 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,120 We would love to track check ourselves out for the next step. 357 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,880 And that is the origin for the SBI logo. 358 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,760 So yeah, that, that is a question from Rakesh. 359 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,840 Thank you so much. I do have one more question. 360 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,640 I'm going to save that for our next question for my next 361 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,040 question. So before that, I'll hand it 362 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:40,880 back to you, Vineet. OK, so I am going to go from 363 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,080 there to something. Absolutely. 364 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,280 I don't know. This is a weak segue. 365 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,600 Just pretend I said something clever and wow, what a great 366 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:58,120 segue. So in his autobiography, claimed 367 00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:03,760 to have been the first author to write a novel's manuscript on a 368 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:09,120 typewriter. Specifically, his novel Y, which 369 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:11,560 was famously set in Saint Petersburg. 370 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:18,880 However, some historical facts dispute what X said, because Y 371 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,480 was actually published from a handwritten copy, not one that 372 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,760 was written on a typewriter. The handwritten copy is 373 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,480 preserved even today, so we know that it was not typed on a 374 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,920 typewriter. But again, X did submit a 375 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,560 typewriter novel for publication immediately after Y, and this 376 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,160 book was the first ever submitted to a publisher as a 377 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,800 typewritten novel. So you could say that X was 378 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,840 partly right, but he got the novel wrong. 379 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,920 So who is X? And which novel famously set in 380 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,320 Saint Petersburg did X claim to have been have typewritten as 381 00:20:55,320 --> 00:21:00,120 the first ever manuscript? 1st of a manuscript. 382 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,520 This would have to be, I was going to say early 20th century, 383 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,320 but I'm thinking it might even be the late 19th century. 384 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,880 Is it by any chance? No, I think Sherlock Holmes is 385 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,600 too late for that. Yeah, this is a little earlier 386 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,800 than the than Sherlock Holmes. Too late for Jane Austen and 387 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,480 stuff. Yes, Jane Austen was during the 388 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,200 Regency period, so yes, this is much later. 389 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,800 So did you mention the gender of this person? 390 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,120 Did you mention if it's a man or a woman? 391 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,600 Yeah, I'm, I'm going to tell you it's a man. 392 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,080 I mean, like we are talking about that particular period of 393 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,800 time, not that many women writers who would have access to 394 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,480 a typewriter. But again, as I mentioned, the 395 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,040 novel is a very, very famous novel set in Saint Petersburg. 396 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,400 Saint Petersburg. Famously said in Saint 397 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,040 Petersburg. Sounds vaguely familiar. 398 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,120 Am I right in saying it is somewhere around the late 19th 399 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,920 century? Late 19th century? 400 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,480 No, slightly earlier than that, yeah, maybe the the third 401 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,840 quarter of the 19th century. Who were the novelist at the 402 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,320 time? Is it one of these? 403 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,320 Shelley. No, no, Shelley, Shelley, Mary 404 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,480 Shelley and or you, unless you're talking about. 405 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,360 Percy. Percy, I was saying Percy by 406 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:13,920 Shelley. Percy by Shelley. 407 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,400 No, it's not him. Mark Twain. 408 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,640 OK, so if it were Mark Twain, which I'm not agreeing to, but 409 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,560 which novel would it be? What novel did he write which 410 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,120 was set in Saint Petersburg? Interesting. 411 00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:28,880 Mark Twain. OK, I like how you said you're 412 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,800 not agreeing to. Yeah. 413 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:36,600 Mark Twain because I honestly only reason I said Mark Twain 414 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,400 was because Mark Twain has that award that is given to the best, 415 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,960 to the greatest contribution comedy in America. 416 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,320 I think every year they give out a Mark Twain prize, a Mark Twain 417 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,880 award. It's called, I believe, and Jon 418 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,440 Stewart received it a couple of years ago. 419 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,320 And I remember thinking Mark Twain I never saw as like the 420 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,440 king of comedy or anything, but clearly he has it. 421 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,600 And that's wow. Tom Sawyer. 422 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,360 And that's the only thing I can think of it. 423 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:05,280 But that's not Petersburg for sure. 424 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,200 Huckleberry Finn. I will put you out of a misery, 425 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,200 it is Tom Sawyer. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer is 426 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,640 set in the town of Saint Petersburg, which is a fictional 427 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:20,440 town based on Hannibal, MO. Now you, you did not all into my 428 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,960 trap because I very carefully tried to frame this question so 429 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,360 that you would think of Tolstoy. Okay, nice, nice nice. 430 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:32,960 Yes, I should have that that that doesn't say that I'm smart. 431 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,680 Honestly, that's just said I forgot I wasn't the same period. 432 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,080 Yeah, I think Russia. I was like which Russian? 433 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,080 Which author who could do this? I. 434 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:44,000 Was thinking, oh, he's going to say War and Peace and Anna 435 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,560 Karenina or something like that. But they I'm just waiting for 436 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,960 you to go to Tolstoy. And then you say Mark Twain. 437 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,640 And in my head I was like, oh fuck. 438 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:56,160 No, no. Can you? 439 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,720 Craft this question in this bugger character, yeah. 440 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:02,920 Definitely, definitely. I read One Piece once every week 441 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,120 for sure. I mean, I'm just that kind of 442 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:09,360 guy. Mark Twain claimed at his 443 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:12,560 autobiography that the first ever manuscript which was 444 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,320 submitted for publication of a novel which was typewritten was 445 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,440 his novel The Adventures of Tom Sawyer. 446 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,400 But we know from historical fact and the fact that we actually 447 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,560 have the handwritten copy that it was submitted as a 448 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,080 handwritten copy and not typewritten. 449 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,160 However, Mark Twain did submit a typewritten novel called Life on 450 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,040 the Mississippi. This was published just after 451 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,440 Tom Sawyer. And this book is the first ever 452 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,120 submitted to a publisher and a typewritten novel format. 453 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,480 So Twain was partly right. I think he got himself confused 454 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,960 by the time he wrote his autobiography. 455 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,080 Lovely. OK, I'm, I'm, I'm really pissed 456 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,240 at you. You know, I'm really pissed at 457 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,840 you. I go to all this trouble to get 458 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,640 you to say Tolstoy and you just breeze past it. 459 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,000 Like you couldn't even put a stopover at Tolstoy. 460 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,160 Maybe like Tolstoy, but no, he's, no, I don't think he would 461 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,000 have had access to a typewrite. I mean, like something at least. 462 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,480 Like I feel very miffed. No, it's just what I tell you we 463 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,400 need. I'm just that smart. 464 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,840 You have you have to play the man. 465 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,400 You have to play the man that sometimes is extremely stupid 466 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,600 and forgets the Tolstoy is a full digital answer. 467 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,400 OK, OK, but talk talking about stupid people. 468 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,480 I'm going to move to somebody who's definitely not that. 469 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,240 And that brings you back to Rakesh. 470 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,160 And Rakesh's second question is also a beautiful gift. 471 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,640 So I'm going to have to ask that one as well. 472 00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:33,880 Since you spoke about logos, the second question also has to do 473 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,320 with logos. And yet again, we talk about an 474 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,960 Indian company and its logo. So what is the shift that can be 475 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:47,040 seen in the old logo versus the new logo for this Indian 476 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,360 company? And you can maybe give me the 477 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:53,200 funda as as quizzes in India would put it. 478 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,520 The old logo had something to do with the older business that 479 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,000 this company used to do, and the new logo has something to do 480 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,240 with the new sector that this company has entered in more 481 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,760 recent times. The new logo? 482 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,880 How new is new because of the what I'm thinking of right now 483 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,960 is something from the 70s. So I because I the reason I'm 484 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,480 not saying is that is because that's part of a question that I 485 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,480 want to frame in the next episode of the episode after 486 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,440 that, which I have on my question is right now. 487 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,840 But the moment I say it, you will catch on to it very 488 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,240 quickly. So I'm keeping my mouth shut 489 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,480 until you tell me what the time. Is this is likely that we might 490 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,840 be talking about the same one, we might be thinking of the same 491 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,640 company. So I I apologize in advance for 492 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,080 stealing one of your questions, for stealing your Thunder, as it 493 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,800 were. This shift happened sometimes in 494 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,200 the 8. Oh, OK. 495 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,720 So then it's not my question is safe, It's not what you're it's 496 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,320 not what you're thinking of. OK. 497 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,960 So, OK, that that leaves me with the fact that I don't know the 498 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,760 answer to this. Something that shifted from old 499 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,440 business to new business that fits a lot of Reliance. 500 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,000 Is it something Reliance Industries? 501 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,080 No. So I'll, I'll tell you, because 502 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,840 Reliance, I don't know how much it has completely abandoned its 503 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,400 origins. It has expanded a lot. 504 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,840 Yeah. In this case, they have nothing 505 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,120 to do with their original business. 506 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,160 No, they're completely shifted. Yeah. 507 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,960 So this is like Nokia, which started out of as a paper mill 508 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,480 and then became an electronics manufacturer, that kind of shift 509 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,120 you're talking about. And they changed the logo also. 510 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,520 They changed the logo also. And the logo reflects that 511 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,240 particular shift in industry. Yeah, they would do that. 512 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,760 If any clues, something that would point me in the right 513 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,680 direction? So we know this company. 514 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,440 So the name of this company is an acronym or like I and 515 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,960 sometimes I confuse an acronym and abbreviation initialism. 516 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,160 But it's an acronym where you pronounce the initial letters of 517 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,120 of the whole phrase as one word, right? 518 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,240 As opposed to an initialism, which is like who, which is you 519 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,560 pronounce individual letters here you pronounce it as one 520 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,800 word. So we know the company as an 521 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,840 acronym. The expanded phrase of the 522 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,520 expanded name, at least what it was initially had something to 523 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,360 do with its original industry. And I'll tell you what the 524 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:18,400 industry was also, it was FMCG. An FMCG company, originally an 525 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,160 FMCG company. I'm blanking. 526 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,240 I'm only able to think of Unilever, but Unilever is not an 527 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,760 acronym of any sort. Yeah. 528 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,040 OK, let me tell you one more thing. 529 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,000 Then this company shifted to the IT sector. 530 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,040 Oh, this is Wipro. They used to make sunflower 531 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,400 right? Perfect. 532 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,240 Do you know what the original name was? 533 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,760 No, I mean, it was always Wipro, right? 534 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,400 Like they've been on the stock market for donkeys ages. 535 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,720 Yes, but it used to stand for initially, I guess Western 536 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,720 Indian Palm refined oils or Western Indian vegetable 537 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,800 products limited either of these, which should also be 538 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,600 Wipro in both cases, yeah, that's where the Wipro came 539 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,360 from. We thought they made sunflower 540 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,680 oil. I mean like they made all kinds 541 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,960 of oil or. I think. 542 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,200 I think they were a manufacturer of cooking oils in general. 543 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,480 Oh, OK. But sunflower oil was one of 544 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,520 their flagship products, which is why the original logo was the 545 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,040 sunflower. Yeah, yeah, the colourful 546 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,520 sunflower. Exactly the colourful sunflower. 547 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,520 It looks like a printing error I guess and which is not a great 548 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,120 thing for an IT company. And they moved to the dots. 549 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,800 If you know what the Wipro dots are, the logo. 550 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,760 That doesn't look all that great. 551 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,680 Well, in any case, it has and the idea behind this is as 552 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,960 Rakesh mentions, they changed the logo with a lot of dots 553 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,080 indicating that they are there to connect the dots for 554 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,720 customers. Yeah, it doesn't make sense 555 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,440 because the logo does not have any lines connecting the dots. 556 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,040 That's true. I guess they wanted to. 557 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,040 Say that there are a lot of dots. 558 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,200 You will get a lot of dots from us. 559 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,600 You want to connect. Connect the lines yourself. 560 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,320 Yeah, connect the dots yourself. Yeah, making you self reliant. 561 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,160 I guess we pro doesn't want you to be dependent on them. 562 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,880 Yeah. So these are two brilliant 563 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,120 questions. Thanks, Rakesh. 564 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,720 Thank you one more time. Yes, Rakesh, I appreciate the 565 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,320 fact that you are sending questions, but let me again put 566 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,360 it on the record that I am not a fan of you guys sending all the 567 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:23,160 questions to Aditya. Only I, I feel just like a 568 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,400 silent message that's being passed on to me. 569 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,400 You know that it's like like when they say that the mother 570 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,880 never has a favorite son. It's always false. 571 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,880 Mothers always have a favorite son and right now you guys have 572 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,880 shown that Aditya is the favorite son. 573 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,920 Now, if that piece of emotional blackmail doesn't get you 574 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,280 buggers to start sending me questions, why is your life a 575 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,960 little easier? Nah, What is wrong with you 576 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,520 people? Here's here's how I would put 577 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,880 it, actually. In fact, what they see is that 578 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,360 Vineet is just unstoppable. He is an unstoppable force, 579 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,160 yeah. Yeah, yeah. 580 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,800 So they, they, they just want to, they want to throw 581 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,360 challenges that we need to see how far they can push him. 582 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,720 And he comes back, fighting back hard as ever, every single time. 583 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,200 Yeah, sounds good. Not the truth. 584 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,400 Hello. Moving on from vegetable oil to 585 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:28,840 again insert clever segue here. The question is as follows, with 586 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,840 the market value at the time of $15,000. 587 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,920 The dress was first presented on the catwalk by model Amber 588 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,000 Valletta and was featured in Versace's main advertising 589 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,560 campaign that year. It was worn by Donatella Versace 590 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,520 to the Met Gala and then by Jerry Halliwell, famous Spice 591 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,600 Girl, at the NRJ Music Awards in France. 592 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,600 A month later, this dress unexpectedly put into motion 593 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,360 events which led to an Internet revolution. 594 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,160 A year later, put Funda. Internet revolution. 595 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,680 That just makes me think of the the white and gold, blue and 596 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,080 black dress. No, no, no, no, no. 597 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,280 This is not that. I don't. 598 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,000 Think that was worth $15,000 or anything? 599 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,360 Yeah. So you said Amber Valletta made 600 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,920 it popular, and you said who else wore it? 601 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,840 So it was first presented on the catwalk by model Amber Valletta. 602 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,680 It was featured in Versace's main advertising campaign that 603 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,280 year. It was won by Donatella Versace 604 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,480 to the Met Gala and then by Jerry Hannibal at the NRJ Music 605 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,480 Award. You know Jerry Hannibal, right? 606 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,000 So she's a it's raining men that her. 607 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,840 So yeah. So then a month later, this 608 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,000 dress unexpectedly put into motion events which led to an 609 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,080 Internet revolution. A year later, put funda. 610 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,160 To all those who don't know what put funda means, I mean like 611 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,560 since our majority of our audience is from India, you 612 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,240 probably do know. But if you are not from India, 613 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:02,160 put Funda is a very stereotypical Indian quizmaster 614 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,520 phrase which basically means make sense of whatever I just 615 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,120 said I. Don't know, I have no clue what 616 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:14,920 so I am not ringing anywhere. OK, OK, so my clue to you would 617 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:21,200 be think the 42nd Grammy Awards and think who did he? 618 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,040 Sean Coombs. Did he today just makes you 619 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,200 think of makes you think of crimes. 620 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,720 But 42nd Grammy, That's quite a while back, right? 621 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,280 I don't know. I'm not going to make things 622 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,480 easy for you. You already get, you know, all 623 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,360 the questions from the audience. Why should I make things easier? 624 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:45,600 For you, it is sort of remind our listeners that Vineet is 625 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,280 older than me. By a fair margin. 626 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,400 But but I like it. I like how people are not 627 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,680 defined by their age, not restricted by it. 628 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,360 I love I love this child like spirit in you Vineet. 629 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,920 OK, I think we are somewhere in the late 50s, early 60s kind of 630 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,920 Grammys. So I'm assuming it's like 42nd 631 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,840 is at least more than a decade ago. 632 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,719 Grammys. Did somebody wear a dress at the 633 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,239 Grammys that that broke the Internet that that went viral? 634 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:20,040 I'm, I have to automatically somehow go to Britney Spears or 635 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,360 probably like a Paris Hilton or somebody? 636 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:28,360 You're in the right direction. I've given you one additional 637 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,600 clue, so think about that. You said P Diddy and Sean Combe. 638 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,280 Yeah. P Diddy is generally just making 639 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,080 me think of crimes, right? What crime did he commit in the 640 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,360 early because he was just Oh God, I don't even know. 641 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,480 Sounds very scary. Whatever his answer could be, 642 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,800 oh, was he dating somebody in that face? 643 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,600 Aha, so now you caught on. Who did he appear with on the 644 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,200 red carpet at the 42nd Grammys? And what does that have to do 645 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,640 with our question? OK, it's definitely not Britney 646 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,400 Spears. Did he? 647 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,840 Don't think he dated Madonna would not be right. 648 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,360 Jlo, this is the only other female artist one that I 649 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,720 couldn't think of. OK, so you. 650 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:16,720 Cracked that you cracked that so then it was Jlo but. 651 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,760 OK. What is the Internet revolution 652 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,520 I was talking about? Oh, I thought it just went 653 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,080 viral. It just broke the Internet, is 654 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,440 that not it? No, no, it did go viral in the 655 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,600 sense, yeah, it was viral, but it directly led to something 656 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,240 which we take for granted today, but was a huge innovation at 657 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:37,280 that point of time. And it was inspired by this 658 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,600 dress and the events surrounding it. 659 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,720 Oh, did somebody ask? That can be it. 660 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:45,520 Did somebody ask Jlo who was she wearing? 661 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,680 No, they they've been doing that for decades. 662 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,280 Yeah, I would imagine that's a very old trend. 663 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,560 Some look at that Jlo war that was iconic. 664 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,280 I I would imagine this is something I would have 665 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,680 definitely seen. And that noise is not striking a 666 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,840 chord. No, you'll have to help me out a 667 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,280 little. OK. 668 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,120 So it was the innovation that I told you about was brought about 669 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,680 by a company that was only around 2 years old. 670 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,120 When Jlo wore those dress at the 42nd Grammys was basically a 671 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,280 startup, almost like in a startup phase. 672 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,360 Well, I don't know Myspace or something at that point. 673 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,600 No, no. OK, did it get its first own 674 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,920 Wikipedia page or something? No, no. 675 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,880 OK, I'll give you, I'll give you a clue. 676 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,640 So out of the two people in who are involved in bringing about 677 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,960 this basically Internet revolution or, you know, 678 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,000 innovation, let me put it that way, who were inspired by the 679 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,160 dress and the virality of the dress, there were two people 680 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,560 involved. And the second part, at least 681 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,040 one of them, the one that you may recognize, is Susan 682 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:57,440 Watchiki, who was the former CEO of YouTube from 2014 to 2023. 683 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,840 OK. So she was responsible for this 684 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,720 innovation. She was one among the team. 685 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:03,760 I think she was leading the team. 686 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,720 This is not. This is not YouTube. 687 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:07,080 It's not live streaming or something. 688 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,880 No, no, no. This is much before that. 689 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,280 Yeah, YouTube is much later. And the idea for that innovation 690 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,400 came from Jennifer Lopez's appearance on the Grammy. 691 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,720 Yeah, no, I'm, I'm completely stumped right now. 692 00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:23,400 I have no idea what innovation you're talking about. 693 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,160 Like, OK, let's go back to the pre. 694 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,880 Like digital news every 5 seconds, Zamana. 695 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,680 And think about the early 2000s, right? 696 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,680 Or the late 90s, early 2000s. Now, if somebody told you, wow, 697 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,920 have you seen Jlo's appearance at the Grammys? 698 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,680 Like what would you do? I would hopefully turn on the 699 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,800 news and it's covering it or go to like one of the 700 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,400 entertainment. News and the news wouldn't be 701 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,040 like 24/7, right? You would have to wait for the 702 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,920 news to get to it so. Before the Internet era? 703 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,480 I don't know. I would not before. 704 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,720 I am talking about. The early days of the Internet. 705 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,280 Oh OK then I would I guess Google search for it. 706 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,840 And what would happen if you got a? 707 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,560 You did a Google search for it. Oh, did it? 708 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,960 Did it search for Google images as a search option? 709 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,560 Yes. So Google image search was born 710 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,000 out of this. So many people were searching 711 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,320 because it went like I don't know if you remember this dress, 712 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,680 it was a very daring dress. It was a green chiffon, very 713 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,000 daring dress. I think Jlo Re wore it a few 714 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,800 years ago, but it was so daring and it made the papers and it 715 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,080 was, you know, hugely popular, you know, and Jlo was, you know, 716 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,360 peak Jlo at the time. Right. 717 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,280 So many people were searching for it, and in those days, you 718 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:45,000 didn't get image results, you only got text results, right? 719 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,320 So when this happened, the two people who were responsible was 720 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,040 a recent college graduate, Hui Can Zhu, who was the engineer 721 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,760 and Susan Wajiki who is a product manager, and they worked 722 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,880 together to build it and single handedly almost launched it in 723 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,240 July 2001. So Halos green chiffon dress, 724 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,960 quite revealing. One in fact is responsible for 725 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,960 Google image search being gone. Now I can guarantee you that all 726 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,520 those people who are born post 2001 who listen to our podcast, 727 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,200 which let's be fair, a big chunk of our listeners are of that 728 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,360 age, will probably now be Googling Jlo Green Dress 729 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:30,800 Versace. And they'll get a picture 730 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,840 immediately thanks to Google Images, which in turn was 731 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,320 inspired by the green dress. So now I have completely closed 732 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:43,320 the circle. This is the tennis version of 733 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,320 the green dress. Except I feel like we have more 734 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,400 than closing circle really funneled it down to a very small 735 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,720 niche. Yeah, apparently it's still a 736 00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:57,320 huge searched up. Like Jlo green dress is a still 737 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,000 a huge state. Searched up 20 years later. 2025 738 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,520 years later, yeah. I I just meant that I feel like 739 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,960 the are you quizzing me listener base is still a very niche 740 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,120 audience. I don't think it's making a 741 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,720 massive dent in Google search. Analytics massive dent. 742 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,680 Even one person does it, the loop is closed. 743 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,960 OK, fair enough then. Then please one person just for 744 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,280 we need say go and Google the green dress Jlo and we would 745 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,800 have closed the loop. Yes, so the I knew that if I 746 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,280 said Jlo, you would immediately probably catch on to it. 747 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,040 But not not a lot of people know that Spice Girl Jerry Halliwell 748 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,960 wore the same dress to the NRJ Music Award friend in France one 749 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,960 month before Jlo wore it, but she failed to receive as much 750 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,320 attention as Lopez did. Lopez arrived on the red carpet 751 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,080 of the 42nd Grammy Awards in the company of her then boyfriend 752 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,160 Sean PDD Coombs, who was dressed in a grey suit. 753 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,920 Very cool, very OK. That sounds like a lot of fun. 754 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,320 OK, so let's start winding up today's episode by answering our 755 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,960 audience question, which I asked at the beginning of today's 756 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,920 episode. So my question was what's common 757 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,280 in the following names? Pierre, Bismarck, Montgomery, 758 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,680 Augusta, Jackson, Lincoln, Madison and Austin. 759 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,080 What's common? I know Lincoln and Madison, 760 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,000 apart from being American presidents, are also, and he's 761 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,680 in Austin also. Austin, Pierre Pierre, Is there 762 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,120 a Bismarck? Is there Augusta? 763 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,960 If you're going to say Austin and Lincoln, I'm very intended 764 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,880 to say these are American state capitals. 765 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,040 Oh. Yes, these are all US state 766 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,720 capitals. Madison is the capital of 767 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:42,640 Wisconsin, Austin is the capital of Texas, Pierre is the capital 768 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,680 of South Dakota, Bismarck is the capital of North Dakota. 769 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,480 Beard that Pierre is a French name and Bismarck is Germany. 770 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,600 Lincoln, capital of Nebraska, Jackson, capital of Mississippi, 771 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,120 Augusta is the capital of Maine, and Montgomery is the capital of 772 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,160 Alabama. OK, OK, So that was our audience 773 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,000 question. Which are they cracked in record 774 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,600 time as usual, The favorite son after all. 775 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,600 So, Mr. Favorite Son, what's your pop culture recommendation 776 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,480 for today? OK, so I already mentioned 777 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,760 minute cryptic that is going to be once more recommendation. 778 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,400 So please do go check it out. It's it's a lovely Instagram 779 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,080 page that you should be following If you like crosswords 780 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,240 and you like to be stumped a little bit once in a while. 781 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,600 I'm going to recommend another Instagram account. 782 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,280 And I don't even know where to where to categorize this ads, 783 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,240 but check it out. It's called eavesdrop dot PNG. 784 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,560 So eavesdropping, I think is what they're going for. 785 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:50,640 So eavesdrop dot PNG it's kind of a show and very short. 786 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:56,880 Somebody says 2 old friends try staying friends and they post 787 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,600 content twice a week. Is this a beautiful slice of 788 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,760 life? Drama, romance, little bit of 789 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,000 comedy kind of space, pretty well acted. 790 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,480 I enjoyed the performances of these two actors and the 791 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,840 supporting cast as well. Well directed, well short. 792 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:17,840 So I because I love film, I love cinema, I am part of that world. 793 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,240 I thoroughly enjoyed these creators, these artists bringing 794 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:25,560 that world into Instagram and using the medium very 795 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,360 effectively to sort of bridge the gap. 796 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,400 Maybe not for everybody, but I would just checking it out and 797 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,800 start from the beginning. Honestly, even become episode 798 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,280 somewhere, somewhere in between. These are very bite sized, won't 799 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,080 take up too much time. Check it out eavesdrop dot PNG 800 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,520 eavesdropping and the other one has already mentioned minute 801 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,880 cryptic. The third recommendation I have 802 00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:50,880 is for a live show and this is a dear friend of mine, Tarang 803 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,040 Hardiker. You might have seen some of his 804 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,240 reads go viral recently. He does a lot of observation 805 00:43:57,240 --> 00:44:00,080 comedy, especially language based observational comedy. 806 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,440 The one that went massively viral was him talking about 807 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,760 being drunk and how that's just a very funny user of the word 808 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,360 that you have to drink so much that you are the past tense of 809 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,920 the verb. Suddenly you are drunk. 810 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,200 So I thought that was brilliant. And yeah, a lot of people have 811 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,480 loved it. So he's going on tour, he's 812 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:24,080 checking on multiple cities. So he just, I just attended a 813 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,360 show of his in Mumbai and he is going to be hitting Bangalore 814 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,000 and I believe Delhi and a bunch of other places as well. 815 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,760 So audiences across India, this is a chance to go check out a 816 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,160 dear friend of mine, but more importantly a phenomenal stand 817 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,720 up comic. Yeah, his one hour act is worth 818 00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:40,920 your time. So go check that out. 819 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,280 That's a live show recommendation. 820 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,080 And I already mentioned 2 Instagram pages, minute, cryptic 821 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,880 and eavesdropping. Great. 822 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,520 I have two recommendations. Both are podcast 823 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,920 recommendations, which are diametrically opposite. 824 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,800 One is a podcast called Legacy. It's hosted by noted historian 825 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,400 Peter Frankepen. And it takes a very deep dive on 826 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,680 certain individuals to kind of look at their lives and also put 827 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,400 them in the modern context to see if their reputation or how 828 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,280 the way we think of them today is deserved or not, right? 829 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,920 So it's like an examining of the person, their personality, their 830 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,520 effect on history, and how that, you know, kind of applies to our 831 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,000 modern day and what we think of them. 832 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,640 Is it a deserved reputation or not? 833 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,760 So it's called Legacy. It's a fantastic podcast #2 I 834 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,360 would recommend a completely different podcast, which is a 835 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,840 horror fiction podcast, which is called 13. 836 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,080 And these guys do a phenomenal job. 837 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,520 So much so that I can't listen to more than a couple of them, 838 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,200 couple of their episodes at a time. 839 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,480 And their episodes are anywhere between half an hour to one hour 840 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,080 in length. But those are they do some 841 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,920 pretty intense and immerse stories, immersive stories. 842 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:58,280 And they can pretty much, I mean, like I, I, it's like 843 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,880 reading vintage Stephen King just listening to it. 844 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,200 So that's my recommendation for today for for this week. 845 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,640 Basically one is the podcast Legacy by Peter Peter 846 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,120 Frankelpan. And the second one is a podcast 847 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,160 called 13, which is a horror fiction podcast. 848 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,880 So those are my recommendations. That's all for this episode. 849 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,160 Thank you all for listening in. We hope you enjoyed the show and 850 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,200 learned something new. If you liked what you heard, 851 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,440 please consider subscribing to our podcast and leaving us a 852 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,600 review on your favorite podcast platform or wherever you get 853 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,840 your podcast. It helps us reach a wider 854 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,400 audience and allows more people to discover and enjoy the show. 855 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,840 Seriously people, 2 seconds. It takes you 2 seconds to give 856 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,000 us a five star review. Come on, you can do it. 857 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,480 I know you can. Or maybe if Aditya tells you 858 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,840 you'll do it, but in either way, I'm I'm hoping he will and you 859 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,760 will do it. You know, so we we'd also love 860 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,360 to hear from you feedback, suggestions and even trivia. 861 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,920 You can reach us on Instagram and are you quizzing me? 862 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,560 You can send us questions that you want asked on the show to 863 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,040 areyouquizzing@gmail.com with the name of the quiz master in 864 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,520 the subject line. We can also join our community 865 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,400 on Reddit, which is R slash, are you quizzing me? 866 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,680 Shout out to Ashwin Maskaranis who quite diligently keeps up 867 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,240 with that because it's him. It's almost single handedly 868 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:23,080 managing that Reddit subreddit. And you can also find a podcast 869 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,800 on YouTube, which is again something that I have to give 870 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,320 props to Aditya for. We appreciate your support and 871 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,360 look forward to sharing more episodes with you in the future 872 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,520 and interacting with you. Thanks again for tuning in and 873 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,800 have a great day. And Mr. Favored Son, please your 874 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,040 words as well, please repeat what I said that so people will 875 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,240 actually listen and do something. 876 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:48,360 I will do the needful. I will love for the audience to 877 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,560 recommend this to a friend. Send it to somebody. 878 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,600 Any piece of trivia that you love, just go tell a friend to 879 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,560 go listen to the episode. It is the best way for us to 880 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,200 grow. And yes, of course, if you did 881 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,760 like it, if you did enjoy it, rate US. 882 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,000 That's that's a lovely gift from you back to us. 883 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,720 And this one is only for Doctor Rakesh. 884 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:06,320 So everybody else can honestly just switch off the episode. 885 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,120 Go listen to something else. Go listen to Vineet's 886 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,880 recommendations. But Rakesh, this one's for you. 887 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,880 If the designer for the dress wanted to hand it to Jennifer 888 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,840 Lopez, the dress before she wore it and like just before she went 889 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,880 on to the Grammys and this designer was for some reason 890 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,320 from Haryana. What would the designer say? 891 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,760 Oh God, this is going to be something horrific, isn't it? 892 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:43,040 The designer would say Jlo. Oh God, I I hope Doctor Rakesh 893 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,200 appreciate some multilingual punnery. 894 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,880 Yeah, yeah. On that note, I'll see you guys 895 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,760 next week. Yeah, bye.