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For 100 years, an elegant 
American Elm tree at the center 

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of Tompkins Square in New York 
was just a tree. 

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Then, in 1966, it happened to 
birth a new thing. 

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Something revolutionary started 
over there. 

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What exactly happened in 1966 
that has resonance both with the

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Western culture but also here 
with us in India? 

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And that is the audience 
question. 

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What happened in 1966 at 
Tompkins Square Park where an 

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elegant American Elm tree 
happens to be? 

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What is the name of this tree 
that was named or renamed after 

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this particular incident? 
Try to figure out the audience 

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question by the end of this 
episode. 

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I am Aditya, this is are you 
quizzing me? 

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And on the other end is Vineet. 
Let's hear the music. 

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Welcome to Are you quizzing me? 
I am Vineet Nair with my Co host

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Aditya Kashyap. 
This is a quizzing trivia 

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podcast show. 
Join us as we dive deep into 

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history, science, pop culture 
and so much more. 

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Let's get quizzing. 
Alright, welcome back. 

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I just told Vineet that unlike 
every other episode till date, I

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think this is the first time 
ever I have an audience question

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and the reason why I chose today
to take over the audience 

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question will be revealed in due
time. 

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By the end of it, there was a 
reason why I chose to do the 

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audience question as well. 
You'll find out when we find out

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the answer. 
Vineet, are you excited to go on

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a journey today which started 
three days ago when I was 

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injured and I was in bed and I 
opened a Wikipedia article and I

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came out of it two days later 
because I went down rabbit holes

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and today is going to be just 
cluttered and chock a block full

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of random trivia from my 2 days 
worth of rabbit holing. 

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That sounds vaguely dirty, but. 
That's true, Rabbit holing. 

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Yeah. 
No, no, yeah, no, that's not 

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going to catch on. 
No, no, no. 

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OK, moving on. 
So, Aditya, you're hopefully 

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better from the not feeling 
well. 

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That has to be the worst 
constructed sentence in the 

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history of the English language.
I can only blame the fact that I

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am sick, as you may have 
surmised from the increased base

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in my voice. 
Very attractive, very sexy. 

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Yes, I know, I know. 
I'll try to speak in low. 

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Registers. 
Let's go. 

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So how about you start on a low 
register, but take us to a high 

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with your first question. 
OK, so my first question is as 

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follows. 
It's a slightly cryptic question

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named after a Spanish 
Inquisitor. 

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This set of rules guides makers 
of X. 

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OK. 
It says that clues to X must 

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have three parts, a precise 
definition, a fair subsidiary 

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indication, and nothing else. 
What is X that follows these 

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principles? 
I'll repeat the question because

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it is a cryptic question. 
Please do, I'll look very lost. 

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Yes. 
You do look very lost. 

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So named after a Spanish 
Inquisitor. 

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There is a set of rules that 
guides makers of X. 

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These rules say that clues to X 
must have three parts, a precise

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definition, a fair subsidiary 
indication, and nothing else. 

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So my question is, what is X 
that follows these principles? 

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I'm not asking you to give me 
the name of the set of rules, 

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because that might be a little 
too obscure, but then I don't 

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know. 
Maybe you know the answer to 

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this, so I wouldn't be 
surprised. 

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Let me put you at ease. 
I have no clue. 

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OK, so we are completely 
starting off tabula rasa and 

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cheeky of you to ask me a 
Spanish Inquisition question, 

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but let me try my best. 
It has to have a subsidiary and 

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then nothing else and has to 
have a clear definition. 

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Is that what you said the first 
rule was? 

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It has to have a precise 
definition, a fair subsidiary 

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indication and nothing else. 
It's rules for X named after an 

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Inquisitor, right? 
A Spanish inquisitor. 

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I'm completely lost so maybe 
category might help like food, 

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sports. 
No, as I mentioned, this is a 

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clue like so. 
The set of rules describe how to

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make clues for X. 
Or how to make clues for X Clues

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for X. 
So makes me think of a board 

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game. 
Slightly warm, not slightly warm

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compared to where you were. 
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are now at -10. 
So it's some sort of a clues, It

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has to be some sort of game, 
some sort of quest. 

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Spanish. 
Oh could it be like Dora the 

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Explorer clues Spanish and Dora?
No, no, no. 

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Some sort of a treasure thing in
in Latin America. 

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No, no, no, no. 
This is something you do find in

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India as well, but not so 
common. 

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It's a very niche kind of thing,
though people do brag about it. 

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Let me just make it clear, I'm 
not one of those people who can 

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even brag about it. 
It's not even that I don't want 

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to, but I just can't. 
Interesting. 

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I don't know why Rubik's Cube 
came to mind. 

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But then why would you need a 
clue for a Rubik's Cube? 

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Yeah, I was thinking more of the
the algorithm to solve it, not a

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clue. 
Yeah, you're right. 

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A clue quizzing then I guess 
quizzing is perhaps something 

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you need a clue for some 
specific type of quizzing. 

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No, no. 
No, what, what, what does? 

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What needs clues apart from 
board games, Apart from a 

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treasure hunt? 
OK, let me just put it this way.

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Imagine a two word phrase. 
A second word is clue. 

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What would you put in the first 
one? 

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Blank. 
Clue. 

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Tough clue. 
An easy clue. 

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Is it an adjective? 
Or is it some sort of like not 

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not one of these generic 
adjectives, but something very 

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specific? 
I'm going to give you a couple 

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of more clues which practically 
will not help you. 

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They're especially popular in 
Britain, also in the US. 

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In certain parts of the US, each
clue is fair but tricky thanks 

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to the rules, which are by the 
way, called Himean principles, 

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spelt XIMENEAN. 
And that's the Spanish 

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Inquisitor. 
Yes, Jimenez was the Spanish 

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Inquisitors. 
This is called the Himenian 

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Principles. 
This was named after Derek 

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Somerset Mcnutt, who used the 
pen name Jimenez. 

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This guy was not Spanish at all,
he just chose the Spanish 

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Inquisitors. 
Name. 

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He was not. 
He was, yes, but he was using a 

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Spanish Inquisitors name, which 
is weirdly appropriate if you 

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ever tried to do one of these. 
So an English person using a 

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Spanish person's name is 
appropriate for this? 

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I don't know. 
OK, doesn't make a lot of sense,

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but is it like a New York Times?
I'm going to give you another 

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thing, OK? 
Think of how I asked you this 

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question, and then think of the 
three parts of the clue in the 

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question. 
It has to be specific, it has to

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have an indication of a 
subsidiary and it should not 

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have anything else. 
Clear definition of the answer. 

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I've been a little more than 
clear there. 

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Then there is the fair piece of 
word play, which is my question 

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itself. 
And then nothing extra that 

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would confuse you so. 
I was thinking something along 

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the lines of like a cryptic 
crossword or maybe a regular 

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crossword. 
Thank you. 

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Yes, it is a cryptic crossword. 
Oh, I should have guessed that 

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earlier. 
OK, interesting. 

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Did you recognize that I 
actually described the question 

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as cryptic twice before I asked 
you the question? 

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Yeah, definitely. 
I am so attentive. 

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So even before I started the 
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basically three parts. 
So let me just put it all 

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together. 
Cryptic crosswords who those who

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don't know are a special kind of
torture. 

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I'm sorry, word puzzle which are
popular in Britain. 

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Each clue is tricky but fair. 
The rules that guide the making 

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of these clues are called Himane
Principles, named after Derek 

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Somerset Mcnutt who used the pen
name Jimenez. 

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He was an expert crossword maker
who wanted to make the clues 

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fair and clear. 
According to these rules, each 

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clue has to have three parts. 
A clear definition to the 

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answer, hence me saying cryptic 
prior to asking the question. 

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A fair piece of word play that 
helps find the answer. 

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The question itself and nothing 
extra. 

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That might confuse the solver. 
And then maybe because my clue 

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might have been confusing. 
For example, for those who don't

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know, a clue might use hitch to 
mean obstacle and hide the 

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letter E, the 1st letter of 
equipment inside it. 

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So the answer to this clue would
be high tech, meaning 

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technologically advanced. 
Don't even ask me how this 

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works. 
I have beaten my head against a 

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wall trying to solve cryptic 
crosswords. 

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Annie, who's been on our 
podcast, he likes these kind of 

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cryptic crossword things. 
He's brainy enough to do those. 

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Jimenez or Derek Somerset to 
Mark Mcnutt wrote a famous book 

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in 1966 called Jimenez on the 
Art of the Crossword Puzzle that

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explained all these rules. 
Today, most British cryptic 

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crosswords try to follow these 
principles because they make the

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puzzles fair and enjoyable for 
solvers. 

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So it's a cryptic crossword. 
Very smart, very smart. 

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I actually disagree with you 
because I do find cryptic 

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crosswords fun. 
I'm not able to solve them all 

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the time, but I find them fun 
whenever I figure it out or 

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whenever somebody explains it to
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Which reminds me, I don't know 
if everyone can recommend it 

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before, but this Instagram page 
called, I think it's called 

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Minute Cryptic. 
And this guy, he, he poses A 

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cryptic crossword clue and then 
he helps you figure out like get

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to the answer. 
So it's kind of fun if you're 

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interested in dipping your toe 
into it because it's like 

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somebody holding your hand and 
walking you through it. 

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It's pretty good. 
Like I mentioned, it's a special

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kind of torture. 
I'm sorry, word puzzle. 

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It's. 
Because you're not good at it, 

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Vineet doesn't mean you get to 
shit on it, OK? 

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Yes, I am salty and I will shit 
on it. 

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Going on a slight tangent, 
cracking the cryptic is it's not

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a cryptic crossword thing, but 
they do something on cryptic 

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Sudoku's. 
I think it's a YouTube channel. 

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I believe they also have a 
website. 

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Check it out. 
It's it's Sudoku for anybody who

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likes Sudoku puzzle but is bored
of doing the regular same ones. 

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It's like a slight variations on
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Sometimes there'll be only one 
digit given in the test Sudoku, 

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but there'll be other additional
rules apart from the regular 

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rules of Sudoku. 
So so check it out. 

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I I won't go into too much 
detail on that, but just because

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Cryptic reminded me of that. 
Basically what you're saying is 

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people who do like cryptic 
crosswords are like masochists, 

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and then people who do like 
cryptic sudoku are like 

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masochists Pro Max. 
Did someone hurt you with a 

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cryptic crossword clue? 
Like why? 

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Why are you so upset? 
I hate them, I can never get the

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answers. 
I believe HK is one of the 

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earlier guests who has also 
tabbled in cryptic crosswords. 

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Yeah, I think the guy who 
introduced me I. 

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Knew I didn't like him. 
Wow, that is not OK. 

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I'm going to complain to it. 
I'm kidding. 

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I'm kidding. 
No, and I think I believe he's 

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the one who who introduced me 
to. 

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I know people who've introduced 
other people to drugs as well, 

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you know. 
My God, what happened to you? 

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Like where did this this sassy 
version come out with this 

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voice? 
I'm only half kidding. 

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I really do hate cryptic 
crosswords. 

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It's one of those things I've 
never been able to master. 

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Like I can do regular 
crosswords, but give me a 

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cryptic crossword and I'm like a
blabbering 5 year old. 

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Nothing makes sense. 
OK, OK. 

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All right, relax. 
We got this. 

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We got this. 
OK, I've got that venom out of 

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my system now, so you may go 
ahead. 

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Glad you got out of your system 
because I have something new for

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your system and that's my 
question. 

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This is the one question in 
today's list which, knowing you,

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knowing your interest, you 
should be able to crack very 

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quickly. 
Oh God I hate this. 

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It's music. 
You. 

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You know your music all right? 
The least you can do is not tell

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me that you think I can crack 
it. 

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I will edit it out if you don't 
crack it quickly. 

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OK, this is music. 
You know this stuff. 

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All right, tell me, which band 
has founding members named 

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Jeffrey, Douglas, John and 
Thomas? 

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Jeffrey, Douglas, John and 
Thomas. 

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These are the founding members 
of which band? 

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Yeah, there were more members. 
Eventually, some people have 

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more people joined, but these 
were the four founding members. 

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You've not mentioned last names.
Therein lies my first clue. 

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Their last names are an 
interesting piece of trivia to 

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the band's formation. 
Douglas John Thomas, You're not 

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giving me last names, which 
makes it more difficult. 

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You know what, I'm going to give
you the last names. 

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OK. 
Jeffrey Hyman, Douglas Colvin, 

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John Cummings, John Cummings and
Thomas Adeli, The Ramones 

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Vineeth. 
Sometimes you deprive me of the 

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joy of running you through the 
entire question, but very well 

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done. 
Yes, I was right. 

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You will correct this very 
quickly. 

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These are the Ramones. 
Do you know how the Ramones got 

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their name? 
I know they all kind of met at 

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some New York club or something,
right? 

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They met in New York City, yes, 
but that's not where they got 

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the name. 
Do you? 

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Do you actually? 
You know what? 

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Part 2 of this trivia. 
Do you know where the Ramones 

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get their name? 
I should know this, never 

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actually inquired as to where 
they got their name. 

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Classic etymology. 
You're going to love this. 

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OK. 
Here's the fun part of it, 

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because I gave you the last 
names, and clearly none of their

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last names are Ramones. 
But Alvin decided to call 

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himself Ramon or use the last 
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name Didi. 
Don't know where Didi came from,

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but he became Didi Ramon. 
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them also to take on the name. 
So they had the last name as 

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performing members of the band, 
they had the last name Ramon. 

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So it became Joey Ramon, Johnny 
Ramon, Didi Ramon and Tommy 

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Ramon, right? 
And that's why they were the 

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Ramons. 
And anybody else who joined the 

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band also took on the last name 
while they were part of the band

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or while they were artists 
associated with the band. 

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Obviously they didn't officially
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were off of a random surname 
that they happened to choose. 

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Do you know why they chose? 
Ramon. 

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Why did they choose the name 
Ramon? 

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I need a clue, dude. 
You'll have to give me some sort

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of. 
Clue you're going to enjoy this.

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There is a musical artist who 
predates Ramones who they were 

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inspired by. 
Who? 

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At one point in his musical 
career, chose the pseudonym 

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Ramon because he thought it 
sounded exotic. 

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You would know who this person 
is based off of their album 

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where they made a pun on the 
name Ramon. 

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They spelled it differently. 
They didn't because the Ramones 

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are spelled ROAMONE and the name
of the band adds an S2 at the 

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end. 
So the name of the band was 

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RAMONE, but the original singer 
that they were inspired by 

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spelled it Ramon. 
And in his solo album, he used 

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sort of A twist on the name 
Ramon to throwback or hawk back 

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to his pseudonym days. 
Shamu, no, it's not, not my 

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direction. 
No, it predates that amounts, 

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yeah. 
No no, I was just making a 

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really dumb joke but and OK, so 
they used a pseudonym. 

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All of these people use 
pseudonyms when checking into 

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hotels and things for that, 
especially if they wanted to get

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away from. 
This was not a pseudonym for 

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checking into hotels. 
This was actually a pseudonym 

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they used multiple times when 
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with certain artists or or when 
they were on tour. 

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At one point of time they had 
used this person was part of a 

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band, and everybody in the band 
apparently had a pseudonym when 

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they were doing a specific tour 
in their career. 

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You know them by their actual 
names, but they used a pseudonym

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in certain parts of their 
career. 

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I'm fairly sure that Bertie is. 
If he is listening, it's going 

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to be like, oh, what are you 
doing bro? 

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This is the answer bro. 
But you figured it out before I 

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even ask the question. 
Guaranteed for sure. 

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It's in his his veins. 
The answer is just flowing 

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through. 
It I'll need an additional clue.

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This is not getting me anywhere.
OK. 

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I told you to look at an album 
that they did as a solo artist, 

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right? 
This was after the band broke 

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up. 
They released a solo album and 

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this was, I believe their second
solo album, which is now 

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considered a pretty good album. 
Back when it came out, it didn't

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get the best of reviews and 
literally it has a part of the 

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word Ramon in it. 
Do I know this album? 

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Knowing your musical taste, 
knowing your interest in the 

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music and the decade I'm talking
about, and knowing the people 

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I'm actually referring to, you 
might know this album. 

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You like how much percentage is 
is obvious enough percentage. 

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You definitely know this person.
Knowing you and knowing how you 

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would like to torture me, I 
would say this is definitely 

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related to either The Beatles or
The Rolling Stones somehow. 

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Yes, you are right. 
It is one of the two that you 

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mentioned. 
I am predictable that way, it's 

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nothing else. 
The Rolling Stones didn't break 

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up per SE, she said. 
This person went out to have a 

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solo career, so it has to be 
either Lennon or McCartney. 

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Sure, but if you ask me to name 
one of the two, Maniza 

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McCartney. 
Paul Ramon was the pseudonym 

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that Paul McCartney used when 
The Beatles were still the 

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Silver Beatles. 
They were doing a tour in 

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Scotland in 1960. 
Oh, OK, OK. 

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And he used it then, and he's 
used it at some points in the 

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future in his career as well. 
His second studio album and the 

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only studio album where he 
worked with Paul and Linda 

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together. 
At least where they're created 

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together. 
There was a song, Admiral 

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Halsey. 
Yes, yes, Admiral Halsey isn't 

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It is from the album Do you know
Which I'd. 

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Mentioned it, I don't remember 
the name of the album. 

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His album names are all very 
forgettable. 

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RAM. 
It's literally called RAM. 

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Ah, OK, yeah. 
And there is a song in it called

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Ram on RAM On where he's like, 
you know, powered through with 

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it. 
OK, not bad, not bad. 

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Now, interestingly enough, one 
of the songs that is perhaps not

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as popular but has significance 
is Too Many People. 

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Do you know too many people? 
Doesn't come to mind 

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immediately. 
If you think distracts are an in

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thing now, these guys are 
shooting shots at each other 

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after the break of the band. 
OK, so too many people was 

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Paul's this thing at both Yoko 
and John. 

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So there were all of these like 
post Beatles breakup songs, like

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the specific songs that that 
perhaps encompass what they're 

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feeling. 
Too many people is Paul's main 

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his post Beatles song. 
Yeah, too many people. 

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Yeah, yeah, I get it. 
Yeah, I get the reference. 

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Exactly, you should go read up 
on it at my God this part of the

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whole rabbit hole that I went 
down because it the references 

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in it are also hilarious. 
You know what, I'll just tell 

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you a few of them. 
They're all the bits at the 

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beginning of RAM. 
Like, too many people going 

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underground, right? 
And John Lynn interpreted it as 

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he talking about him and Yokono,
which I think, yeah, Paul was 

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making some shots over there. 
In response, Lennon wrote. 

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Do you know what song? 
Not off the top of my head. 

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It's from his album Imagine it's
called How Do You Sleep? 

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Oh, yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, right. 

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Yeah. 
How do you sleep? 

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Yeah, there's some line I think 
I remember reading about. 

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Like, the last thing you wrote 
was yesterday, and now he wrote 

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Another Day because Another Day 
was another single from his 

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album. 
So he was talking about how Paul

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had just done, like, a few 
things. 

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John and Paul firing shots at 
each other and too many people. 

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And how do you sleep? 
The song that Harrison wrote was

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Wah Wah. 
This was Harrison's response to 

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the breakup. 
Yeah, but he had a middling 

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career, so I don't think he was 
like, he's my favorite Beatle, 

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but still. 
OK, so one of the critics who 

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wrote about these four songs and
the fourth song being early 

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1970, that is our man Ringo's 
song to the response or the 

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breakup of the whole thing? 
Poor Ringo. 

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This particular specific critic 
definitely said that it is one 

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of the more tempered responses 
because the rest of them were a 

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lot more angsty I guess. 
See, honestly, you don't have to

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know anything more. 
I mean, like, if you want to 

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know why people blame Yoko Ono 
for all of this, I think it's 

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after the breakup of The 
Beatles. 

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There was a performance during 
some kind of variety show, I 

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don't remember if it's a variety
show or a stage show, where 

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Lennon was playing with Chuck 
Berry in the legendary Chuck 

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Berry. 
And while they're playing, Yoko 

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Ono decides to improvise some 
kind of oriental chant in the 

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middle of the song. 
And you can literally see Chuck 

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Berry's eyes go like this. 
So you are a Yoko hater as well?

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We got cryptic crossword and we 
got Yoko. 

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Got it. 
Yeah, keeping track. 

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So that was my little bit of my 
rabbit hole down these post 

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Beatles breakup songs that all 
of them went into early 1970. 

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Wah wah, too many people and how
do you sleep? 

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All four of them wrote these 
songs as a responsive to break 

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up. 
Which brings you back to Ram 

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Ramon. 
That's what. 

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The Ramones got their name 
because they did it as an homage

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to Paul Ramon. 
Paul McCartney, OK Nice and DD 

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Ramon chose that name and 
everybody else decide to follow 

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suit. 
Interestingly enough, in 2002, 

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the Ramones were ranked the 
second greatest band of all time

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by Spin, which is a magazine 
trailing only The Beatles. 

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Let's just say that I will 
disagree with that, but so I 

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disagree with a lot of things 
today. 

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Yeah, I get it. 
Get it? 

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The Rolling Stones or the 
soundtrack? 

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Of the 60's, the 60s get it 
right. 

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OK X, so this is my question to 
you. 

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X was possibly the only person 
who held this office and also 

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like to drive his own car, a 
Range Rover Vogue and a 

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Mercedes-Benz 500 SEL that was 
gifted to him by the King of 

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Jordan. 
X was often seen sporting a 

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white pair of Lotto sneakers and
expensive sunglasses. 

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His love for fast speeds was no 
secret considering his previous 

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occupation. 
So who am I talking about? 

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I'm being very cryptic. 
Given how much you hate Cryptic 

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Crossword, that's irony. 
But wait, did you say they were 

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the only person to occupy that 
office? 

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They're the only person who held
this office who also like to 

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drive their own car. 
Oh, is it Ronald Reagan by any 

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chance? 
Oh no. 

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Do you think any American 
president would be allowed to 

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drive if a car backfires? 
They're not even allowed to 

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walk. 
They're literally lifted and 

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run. 
But you're on somewhat the right

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track. 
Yeah, it has to be a world 

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leader. 
Somebody will like to drive. 

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I know the Queen has driven on 
occasion, on certain occasions. 

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Oh yeah, the Queen, the Queen of
England. 

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She used to be an ambulance 
driver during World War 2. 

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Ambulance driver also the only 
person who doesn't have a 

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license because all license are 
issued by the queen so she can't

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issue her several license. 
So she can't issue her license, 

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her own name? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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Apparently she likes to drive 
very fast. 

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I can imagine she looked like 
somebody who was a speed racer, 

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but I'm assuming that's not the 
answer. 

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Here, no, no, because I said 
that this was not a surprise 

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considering their previous 
profession that they like to go 

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fast ambulance. 
Driver has to go fast. 

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Technically, that would also be 
true, but like I said, a Range 

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Rover, Vogue and Mercedes-Benz 
500 SCL that was gifted by the 

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King of Jordan. 
And you also think you mentioned

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that it is a man that you're 
looking for? 

455
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,360
Yes. 
No idea, must be some racer who 

456
00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:21,360
is also the Prince of someplace 
or the king of someplace, but. 

457
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,080
OK, as I also mentioned, their 
appearance, very famous for 

458
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:30,880
wearing white Lotto sneakers and
expensive sunglasses, drove at a

459
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,240
breakneck pace across roads 
which have been cleared well in 

460
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,600
advance by the security forces. 
There's not a fictional person, 

461
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,960
right? 
It's a real individual. 

462
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,000
Oh no, no, it's a real person. 
Oh yeah, no idea at all. 

463
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,720
Had a career which would drive 
them to driving really fast. 

464
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:54,040
I said that their love for fast 
speed is no surprise considering

465
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,440
their previous profession is all
I'm saying. 

466
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,160
That does not ring a bell at 
all, OK. 

467
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,840
So there was an official car and
then there was this person's 

468
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,360
private cars. 
They would take the private cars

469
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:06,000
and go so fast that the official
cars would be trailing. 

470
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,600
It's no surprise that it was 
trailing because you have the 

471
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,920
Americans who travel in like 
this over souped up. 

472
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,640
You know, they called the beast 
limousines, right? 

473
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:20,640
But this was a white ambassador 
car. 

474
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,040
Does this sound very familiar, 
the Indian context into it? 

475
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,280
It sounds like I've heard of 
this particular Prime Minister, 

476
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,080
President I've. 
Definitely, I would suggest 

477
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,640
thinking of the previous 
profession. 

478
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,960
I'm assuming you see Rajiv 
Gandhi on. 

479
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,560
It is Rajiv Gandhi. 
He was a pilot. 

480
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,560
Makes sense. 
Speed. 

481
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,120
Yeah, so he was a trained pilot.
He had an affinity towards fast 

482
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:46,840
cars as well. 
So whenever he got an 

483
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,520
opportunity, he switched between
the Hindustan Ambassador, a 

484
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,720
Range Rover Vogue and a 
Mercedes-Benz 500 SEL that was 

485
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,800
gifted to him by the King of 
Jordan. 

486
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,840
And he also had a couple of 
Cadillacs in his garage. 

487
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,960
Oh, OK. 
It was a proper petrol head. 

488
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,680
I did not know about the shoes, 
though. 

489
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,560
I did not know that this was 
something very, very 

490
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:06,760
specifically associated with 
him. 

491
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:09,960
Oh, yeah, he, he preferred. 
It's not that he always worried,

492
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,040
but he did prefer white 
sneakers, even after his 

493
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,240
assassination. 
Famously, they found the 

494
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,760
sneakers which were blown off 
his feet. 

495
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,960
Correct me if I'm misremembering
this because I visited the 

496
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,000
museum around 10 years ago, but 
there is a Rajiv Gandhi and 

497
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,840
Indira Gandhi museum in New 
Delhi. 

498
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,600
And I think this is one of the 
relics that they keep there. 

499
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,320
It's a very morbid museum. 
The site where Indira Gandhi was

500
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,520
gunned down is preserved under 
panes of glass and you can still

501
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,200
see the blood stains today. 
I might not hold her in the 

502
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,880
highest regard, but nobody 
deserves a violent death like 

503
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,920
that. 
So unfortunate but interesting 

504
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,480
piece of trivia. 
Pretty cool. 

505
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,360
Pretty cool. 
OK, Speaking of cool things, 

506
00:26:54,120 --> 00:27:00,080
what a basic segue. 
There was a nightclub in West 

507
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:06,960
Hollywood, CA along Sunset Blvd.
on the Sunset Strip in 1943. 

508
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,400
Frank Sinatra became a solo act 
when he first became a solo act.

509
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:17,520
He made his LA debut at that 
particular club in 1955. 

510
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,480
Ella Fitzgerald opened also at 
this club after Marilyn Monroe 

511
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,080
had really pushed for her to get
that spot and that kind of 

512
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,200
launched Fitzgerald on on the 
stage into fame. 

513
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:36,360
Do you know how this particular 
club in LA is connected to a 

514
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:40,200
very iconic Bollywood character,
Mogambo? 

515
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,920
Oh, what? 
Oh my God, that was a little too

516
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,560
easy. 
Or did that make it way too easy

517
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,520
for you? 
Did you know this or did you 

518
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,400
just? 
No, no, no, I it's a pure guess 

519
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,120
because you were talking about 
characters that would be named 

520
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:57,200
after an Indian character, named
after something in Hollywood. 

521
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,640
Frankly, the only name that came
to my head was, you know, Robber

522
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,720
or Mogambo. 
It could be like a club called 

523
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,480
like, I don't know, Raj or like 
Shen Shah. 

524
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,400
Or Rahul Nam to Sunai yoga. 
Exactly why couldn't there be a 

525
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,160
club called Rahul in Delhi? 
No, no, it can't be just Rahul. 

526
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,880
It has to be Rahul. 
Nam to Sunai Yoga so that the 

527
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,480
Americans can butcher it. 
Let's go to Rahul. 

528
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,160
That does sound like a cool name
for a club. 

529
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,480
Brilliant. 
Brilliant. 

530
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,840
Like I had so much stuff that 
was supposed to be given as 

531
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,760
clues, but you have you have 
blown past it. 

532
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,040
Yeah, hit me with the clues 
anyway. 

533
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,440
I I'd I'd love to know. 
I'm going to because this is 

534
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,240
part of my rabbit holing another
day using the word the. 

535
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,640
The catch here is that the name 
of the original club was not 

536
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,800
Mogambo, it was Mogambo, OK, 
MOCA, MB O. 

537
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,160
There are some roots to that 
word in in Spanish and 

538
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,720
Portuguese and stuff. 
I think it has to do with 

539
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,440
certain indigenous tribes in the
Americas. 

540
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,560
It has to do with certain trees,
all of those things. 

541
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,520
That's where Mocambo comes from.
Mocambo is the name of this 

542
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,440
particular club. 
It was a very famous spot. 

543
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,720
I already mentioned 2 very 
famous people, but there are a 

544
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,120
bunch of other very famous 
people who was born there. 

545
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,160
There was a movie that was made 
called Mogambo. 

546
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,240
Cary Grant. 
Very impressive. 

547
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,040
Yes, you do know the movie. 
It's a 1953 Hollywood film 

548
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,720
called Mogambo, which had Cary 
Grant in it, and Salim Khan and 

549
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,280
Javed Akhtar. 
They were inspired by this film 

550
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,560
and they named Mogambo the 
character in Mr. India after the

551
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,520
film, which had been named after
the club with a slight twist 

552
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,120
called Mogambo. 
Actually, during the promotions 

553
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,360
of the 1953 Hollywood film, the 
producers claimed that the word 

554
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,200
Mogambo meant the greatest, but 
there was no such meaning. 

555
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,880
It was literally just because 
the producer of the film, he 

556
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,960
liked that particular club in LA
and that's why he decided to 

557
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,920
name the film Mugambo. 
And then we got our character 

558
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,640
Mugambo from it, which kind of 
launched Amrish Puri into 

559
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,480
stratosphere. 
He he appeared in Indiana Jones 

560
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,360
after that got a bunch of the 
antagonist roles. 

561
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,640
I think he was the highest paid 
villain in Bollywood, I think at

562
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,680
that point. 
At one point, no, because I I 

563
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,320
remember the fact that Mugambo 
was named after this movie 

564
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,680
because I had the fact that this
movie was the inspiration for 

565
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,000
the character name. 
The nightclub connection was 

566
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,640
something that came to me like 
the other way around because I 

567
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,640
couldn't think of any other 
character who could be named 

568
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,680
after a club. 
Smart smart Mocambo. 

569
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,720
The club obviously shut down way
back when. 

570
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,920
There is a club opened in 
Toronto and this was inspired by

571
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,120
the founders of this Toronto 
club who had visited the LA club

572
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,480
and liked it. 
They opened a club in Toronto, 

573
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,680
which is also famous for a whole
different reason and that you 

574
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,320
will enjoy because The Rolling 
Stones once performed there 

575
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,800
under a pseudonym. 
They did not want to tell people

576
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,760
they're performing. 
So it was like kind of a secret 

577
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,480
thing. 
Wait, wait, let me guess, did 

578
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,200
they call themselves No Moss? 
Not that. 

579
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,640
No, it was not World No Moss. 
They called themselves the 

580
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,040
Cockroaches. 
I don't know if that was a dig 

581
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,440
at The Beatles or something. 
I don't know. 

582
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,480
Oh no, OK, it makes sense, 
because it's a famously A 

583
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,000
scientifically known fact that 
in the event of a nuclear 

584
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,840
apocalypse, the only things left
alive will be Keith Richards and

585
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,760
cockroaches. 
Yeah, and Keith Richards will 

586
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,240
outlive the cockroaches, I'm 
sure. 

587
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,760
He'll probably smoke the. 
He might. 

588
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,800
He might just do that. 
In this case, they were called 

589
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,840
the Cockroaches, and none of the
people in the audience knew who 

590
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,520
these people are because they 
were an opening band for another

591
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,080
group called April Wine, which 
is a Canadian rock band. 

592
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,560
They were the opening group for 
it. 

593
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,920
This particular performance is 
famous because there's also a 

594
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,360
recently released live album 
called Elmocambo 1977. 

595
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,240
This was in 1977. 
They released Elmocambo 1977, 

596
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,280
which is a live recording of it.
This 1977 gig is very famous 

597
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,640
because there was a very famous 
lady over there who went by the 

598
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,240
name of Margaret Trudeau and if 
the tabloids were to be 

599
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,640
believed, she had a romantic 
encounter with Mick Jagger which

600
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,720
eventually led to her divorce 
with the then Canadian Prime 

601
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,160
Minister Pierre Trudeau. 
I know this. 

602
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,760
It happened a couple of years 
later, but this was apparently 

603
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,280
one of the reasons why she was 
caught on a photograph in that 

604
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,160
event. 
Again, maybe it was a completely

605
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,160
innocent thing, I don't know, 
but the rumors were that she had

606
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,080
a romantic rendezvous with Mick 
Jagger at that event, which led 

607
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,760
to her eventual divorce. 
With my God, the rabbit holes I 

608
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,160
went down, you have no idea. 
I just what or did I explore 

609
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,920
then this? 
You should have followed that 

610
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,760
particular thread because if you
followed that particular thread 

611
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,240
down, you'd know that there is a
conspiracy theory that Pierre 

612
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,080
Trudeau is not OK. 
At this point, we are away from,

613
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,280
you know, far away from being 
trivia nerds to become just 

614
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,600
gossip Queens right now. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, please, 

615
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,560
please, please switch off your 
trivia brains. 

616
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,240
Yeah. 
Yes. 

617
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,720
So there is a conspiracy theory 
that Pierre Trudeau is not 

618
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,200
Justin Trudeau's father, and 
that Justin Trudeau's father is 

619
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,680
actually Fidel Castro. 
Oh wow, what? 

620
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,600
Yeah, so there are old 
photographs of Margaret Trudeau 

621
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,120
and, you know, the both of them 
together and just looking at it.

622
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,520
And there is somewhat some 
chemistry in the photographs if 

623
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,720
you see it in those eyes. 
And the pictures of young Fidel 

624
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,080
Castro and the pictures of a 
young Justin Trudeau are 

625
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,680
uncanny. 
So there's probably nothing to 

626
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,360
it, frankly speaking. 
It just sounds too outlandish. 

627
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,640
But then you never know. 
It's a it's a fun conspiracy for

628
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,080
people to go down rabbit holes. 
I love it. 

629
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,160
I love it, Vineet. 
Anything you hate in this 

630
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,560
particular question so far? 
Nothing to hate you, nothing to 

631
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,120
hate you. 
Cockroaches. 

632
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,640
Yeah, you're good with 
cockroaches. 

633
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,520
No, I do hate them. 
Yeah, now that you tell me that 

634
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,880
I hate cockroaches. 
All right, so we have cryptic 

635
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,200
crossword, we have your corner, 
and we have cockroaches. 

636
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,560
Yeah, they won't drown. 
All right, Well, Vivek, back to 

637
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,240
you. 
So my question to you now is 

638
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,200
going to be a slightly medical 
question, but I hope you will be

639
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:08,080
able to track it. 
In a 2013 study published in the

640
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,760
International Journal of 
Cardiology, Anand Patel and ET 

641
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,800
al, which is means Anand Patel 
and other authors refer to the 

642
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,480
term X. 
They defined X as a colloquial 

643
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,159
term for media stenitis and 
other complications of an open 

644
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,199
stenotomy following 
cardiothoracic surgery. 

645
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,520
OK, Did you understand anything 
about what I said? 

646
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,960
Nothing at all. 
So mediastinum is basically just

647
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,360
for simple terms, is the central
portion of their chest cavity 

648
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:41,199
between your lungs and other, 
That's the central portion of 

649
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:44,560
test cavity and it's right 
behind your breast bone or your 

650
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,639
sternum. 
OK. 

651
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,600
So during cardiothoracic 
surgery, obviously they cut your

652
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,320
sternum in half, they can split 
open. 

653
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:53,600
You got it. 
It's called an open sternoter. 

654
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,800
So there can be inflammation, 
infection of the mediastinum 

655
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,200
that is central part of your 
chest cavity following another 

656
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,800
complications of a sternotomine 
cardiothoracic surgery. 

657
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,520
The popular name for this 
condition which is the term X 

658
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,640
that they refer to is based on 
the description above. 

659
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,120
OK, I told you what this is 
about. 

660
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,400
So this name, the popular name 
was given based on the 

661
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:26,800
description above and it hints 
towards a very famous 

662
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:35,120
personality or person or let's 
just say very famous icon who's 

663
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,160
associated with a particular 
action. 

664
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,080
Oh OK and person part threw me 
off. 

665
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,600
I thought I had an answer. 
Oh no, you might actually have 

666
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,960
it. 
I think I gave it away but just 

667
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,880
jello. 
Has it got anything to do with 

668
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,200
Alien? 
Oh, no, no, no, no. 

669
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,200
Oh OK, I I was thinking not 
person but an alien chest 

670
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,160
Buster. 
Oh. 

671
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,560
Oh, very good, very good, very 
good guess. 

672
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,280
But no, this is a famous icon 
who's associated with a 

673
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,880
particular action. 
I figured it out. 

674
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,800
Is it Hanuman? 
Yes, it is the Hanuman syndrome.

675
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,880
Oh, wow. 
Interesting. 

676
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,160
OK. 
Yeah, it's called the Hanuman 

677
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,040
syndrome. 
So it's a term which refers to 

678
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,800
the kind of inflammation, 
infection of the central part of

679
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,960
your chest resulting as a 
complication of an open 

680
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,080
sternotomy where they kind of 
split your chest back spool and 

681
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,720
then like pull it open. 
Right, right, right, right, 

682
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:23,600
right. 
The whole image of Hanuman 

683
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,040
revealing his heart in which 
resides Ramji Sita Mahan. 

684
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,200
My initial guess I was quite 
proud of, but the eventual 

685
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,480
answer is cooler somehow. 
Nice. 

686
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,720
I like. 
Yeah, nice, nice, nice, nice, 

687
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,360
nice. 
OK, perfect. 

688
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,040
I'm gonna switch gears and I'm 
gonna go back to the US And 

689
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,360
here's a simple etymology 
question for a particular space 

690
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,280
in the US or locality or a 
neighborhood. 

691
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,440
OK. 
The commissioner's plan of 1811,

692
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:55,840
which laid out the grid scheme 
of Manhattan above Houston St. 

693
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,960
Houston St. 
It's not Houston. 

694
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,840
No, it's pronounced Houston St. 
Are you pulling my leg 'cause I 

695
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,560
can't Fact Check you live? 
No, no. 

696
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,600
It is called Houston. 
It's called Houston. 

697
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,840
Houston, we do have a problem, 
all right. 

698
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,680
A great scheme of Manhattan, the
Houston Houston part is not 

699
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,960
relevant. 
And designated 16 NS avenues. 

700
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,440
OK, 12 of them were numbered and
they were supposed to run 

701
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,120
continuously to Harlem. 
And then there were four which 

702
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,680
were not numbered. 
OK, based off of these 4, the 

703
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,880
particular locality got its 
name. 

704
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,520
What is the name of this 
locality? 

705
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,520
So the name of this locality is 
after the four avenues which 

706
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,560
were not numbered in New York. 
Yeah. 

707
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,560
You want the name of the 
locality, right? 

708
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,800
Yeah. 
Was it Tribeca? 

709
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,680
I don't know what the connection
Tribeca is, but not relevant. 

710
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,080
No, no, I'm just guessing 
because this is Soho is South of

711
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,400
Houston or something right now. 
So something like that, where 

712
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,080
it's the name itself is an 
acronym of sorts. 

713
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,040
No, it is not an acronym I 
mentioned and I think you would 

714
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,880
have realized I did not mention 
what the four other streets were

715
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,960
because I said 16 NS avenues, 12
of them were numbered, 4 of them

716
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,120
were not numbered. 
So what they were, I didn't 

717
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,920
mention. 
It's based of those four that 

718
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,280
this locality gets its name. 
Is it a location that's famous? 

719
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,440
Would I know this? 
Because I don't. 

720
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,760
I actually had not heard of it. 
To be very honest, I had not 

721
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,880
heard of it till and this is my 
first hint. 

722
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:26,680
Have you seen the show? 
The studio? 

723
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,080
Yes. 
So there were a bunch of 

724
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,680
fictional films in that show. 
Alphabet City. 

725
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,320
Yes, it is Alphabet City which 
is the movie that is I think in 

726
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,040
one of the episodes, which is 
about the extended ending that 

727
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,760
the director goes on into like a
part which is unnecessary, but 

728
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,400
that is Alphabet City. 
I did not realize that Alphabet 

729
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,200
City was an actual place. 
Why is it called Alphabet City? 

730
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,360
Because the non numbered ones 
are Ave. 

731
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,840
ABCD, so the only single 
lettered street names in the 

732
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,600
whole of New York City. 
Oh. 

733
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,800
That's why that area is called 
Alphabet City. 

734
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,680
Nice, nice. 
I did not know that. 

735
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,720
So they would say like the 
corner of A and 16th. 

736
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:11,160
Like how do they say that then? 
Yeah, the Avenue B and 12th or 

737
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:11,920
Ave. 
B and here. 

738
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,040
OK. 
So Ave. 

739
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,360
B, OK, OK. 
Oh, that's a nice question. 

740
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,960
Interestingly enough, the 
Broadway musical Rent. 

741
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,840
It takes place in Alphabet City.
OK. 

742
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,000
Because that's where was a 
composer. 

743
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,560
I think his name is Larson, 
right? 

744
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,240
The guy who unfortunately passed
away before I think it came to 

745
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,440
Broadway. 
Played very convincingly by 

746
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,000
Andrew Garfield and Tik Tik 
Boom. 

747
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,240
Grateful to check that out as 
well. 

748
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,440
Jonathan Larson's very iconic. 
If you've heard of Broadway 

749
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,520
musicals, Rent is one of them. 
You probably have heard of Rent 

750
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,360
is based in Alphabet City. 
Nice, nice nice, nice. 

751
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,520
OK, so then I guess it is now my
turn to try and bamboozle the 

752
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,480
I'm going to go over the 
question that I have for some 

753
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,480
reason not asked even though you
are a big fan of these kind of 

754
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,040
questions. 
So Aditya, this is a combination

755
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,160
of two types of questions that 
you love, lists and fill in the 

756
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,720
blanks. 
Give it to me. 

757
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,960
I want you to fill in the 
missing entry in this list. 

758
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,480
Pythian, Nimian, Isthmian. 
What's the 4th? 

759
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,400
Expected the list to be longer. 
No, it's not. 

760
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,880
Disappointingly small list, 
dirty jokes order. 

761
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,560
Can you repeat the names again? 
PYTHIAN, Pythian, Nemian, 

762
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,560
NEMEAN. 
Nemian as in the nemian lion 

763
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,840
Isthmian. 
If you've heard of isthmus, the 

764
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,640
thyroid Isthmus Isthmian. 
I was going to go off of Nemian 

765
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,800
Lion only because that is the 
only word which felt relevant, 

766
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,000
but I'm assuming it doesn't have
anything lions or or 

767
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,800
mythological lions. 
So no, no idea. 

768
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,600
I'm not saying Nimian Lion, I'm 
just saying Nimian as in the 

769
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,800
Nimian Lion, so that, you know, 
understand what I'm talking 

770
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,600
about, right? 
Like or at least the the word 

771
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,600
itself. 
You know, I got that. 

772
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,080
That was the IT was the only 
jumping off point I had, but. 

773
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,320
Pithian priestesses. 
The priestesses of the Temple of

774
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,840
Delphi. 
They were called Pithian 

775
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,200
priestesses. 
Sounds like a lot of Greek myth.

776
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,320
Yeah, you are getting to 
something. 

777
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,840
So this is a very unknown fact. 
I want to put this out there 

778
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,320
that this is an unknown fact is 
that many people have forgotten.

779
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,720
OK. 
Very Indian right now. 

780
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,280
I like it. 
People listening to us cannot 

781
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,200
understand it, so I am head 
bobbing. 

782
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,680
I think the voice was very 
clear, iconically Indian. 

783
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,680
OK, but tell me what is 
connection to Greek mythology? 

784
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,680
Is it? 
It's not mythology. 

785
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,920
The first part is right, the 
second part is not. 

786
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,280
Greeks. 
I don't know why. 

787
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,800
I was going to say ionic like 
ionic columns but I think those 

788
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,320
are Roman not Greek. 
Oh, that would have been a 

789
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,560
That's a very good joke. 
But no I. 

790
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,640
Don't know what the joke is, but
anyways, that's Roman. 

791
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,720
That's not Greek. 
No, no, OK, that was just me. 

792
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:02,560
There was a scene in, I think 
it's in Angels and Demons where.

793
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,280
This column is ionic. 
Ionic. 

794
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,880
Yeah, this column is ionic. 
Because every column has the 

795
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,000
ions. 
Yeah, because I'm recently been 

796
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,520
seeing promotions of the 
Odyssey. 

797
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,640
Matt Damon and Ben Affleck have 
been speaking about it, and that

798
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,600
is in Prestor. 
So does it have anything to do 

799
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,680
with the Odyssey? 
No, not particularly. 

800
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,600
Let me just give you a clue. 
The legacy of this 4th entry on 

801
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,920
the list is still quite big 
today. 

802
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,480
We've forgotten the other 3. 
OK, the 4th 1 still holds 

803
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,200
strong. 
The fact is, there are certain 

804
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,280
things which we take for granted
about this fourth entry on the 

805
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,600
list even today, but we've never
actually thought to understand 

806
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,520
why it is so. 
And that will make sense when 

807
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,800
you know about the other three 
things, which are Pythian, 

808
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,680
Isthmian and Nemean. 
Give me a enter. 

809
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:02,360
OK, the Pythian games. 
Oh, is it the Olympic Game? 

810
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,120
Yeah, I just completely out of 
that clue, okay. 

811
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,920
Okay, sorry. 
To the audience, I completely 

812
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,760
screwed up the reveal on that 
because I'm I'm, I'm sick by 

813
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,560
guys, give me a break. 
I am sick right now. 

814
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,960
But yes, it is the Olympic 
Games. 

815
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,880
Let me just tell you right now 
that everybody knows the Olympic

816
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,920
Games. 
We know that the Olympic Games 

817
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,200
happen every four years. 
Have you ever thought to wonder 

818
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,000
why it happens every four years?
Those are the three games 

819
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,280
happening in the intervening 
time. 

820
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,520
I have heard of this, yes. 
Yes. 

821
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,640
So the games were held in four 
year cycles. 

822
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,520
You would have the Olympic 
Games, which were held in 

823
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,360
Olympia honoring Zeus and the 
winners received an olive 

824
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,200
wreath. 
Right, right. 

825
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,000
The Pythian games were held in 
Delphi. 

826
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,960
I gave you a clue about the 
Pythian priestesses at Delphi. 

827
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,720
Oracle of Delphi. 
Yes, they honored Apollo and it 

828
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:59,400
was from music and arts and the 
winners received a Laurel 

829
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,720
wreath. 
Oh interesting, the Nimian games

830
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:07,600
were held at Nimia honoring Zeus
again and Heracles or Hercules, 

831
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,800
and they received a celery 
wreath. 

832
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,120
Disgusting. 
Go. 

833
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,640
Ahead, the Isthmian Games held 
at the Isthmus of Corinth 

834
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,400
honoring Poseidon, the Greek God
of the sea. 

835
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,920
And the winners received a pine 
tree. 

836
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,960
So these games were all held 
like every year. 

837
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,400
So that's why the Olympics came 
every four years because they'll

838
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,600
be like, OK, Olympics is done. 
We'll go for the PTN and the 

839
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,600
Nimian and the Estimian and then
back to the Olympics. 

840
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,800
So this four year cycle, do you 
know what that was called? 

841
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,440
Again, that terminology is known
in India Today, India and many 

842
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,400
other countries, at least in 
Asia, for a very different 

843
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,600
reason. 
No, the connection is clear once

844
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,840
you know the word. 
India, we don't have 4 year 

845
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,040
election cycles. 
No, no, no. 

846
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,200
This is something that happens 
every year. 

847
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,080
They've given it this name. 
It's not just in India, because 

848
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,440
I've seen this in the Middle 
East as well. 

849
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,400
I don't. 
Know what first thing came to 

850
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,360
when was BNLA? 
No, no, no. 

851
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,280
BNLA is something that happens 
every two years. 

852
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,000
No, so that's the thing. 
That's BNLA Biennale. 

853
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,000
Yeah, fair. 
Yeah. 

854
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,160
This is the Olympiad. 
The Olympiad, of course. 

855
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,480
Yes, Yeah. 
Yeah. 

856
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,920
So the Olympiad is the four year
cycle. 

857
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,400
That four year cycle was called 
the Olympiad, composed of four 

858
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,680
games, the Olympic Games, the 
Pythian Games, the Nimian Games 

859
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,440
and the Isthmian Games. 
Now you know this forgotten 

860
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,960
fact, OK? 
Cool. 

861
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,360
Audience, I really want to 
apologize again for screwing up 

862
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,160
the clue, but I'm sick so I'm 
allowed to be a little hateful 

863
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,760
today and screw up. 
Happens, happens, happens to the

864
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,360
best of us. 
Well, I'm going to take you from

865
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,680
the islands of Greece to the 
islands of Japan and you have to

866
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:50,080
tell me, Vineet, what is the 
significance of Matsumushi and 

867
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,600
Suzumushi? 
Matsumushi are pine crickets and

868
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,160
suzumushi are belly crickets. 
They're both 2 distinct 

869
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,320
cherished autumn insects in 
Japan. 

870
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,040
For people who are familiar with
the Japanese culture would know 

871
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,480
that insects are are held in a 
certain regard in Japan. 

872
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,520
They have a lot of cultural 
significance in Japan, unlike 

873
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,440
the way they're viewed or like 
someone like us might see a 

874
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,520
cockroach. 
I think they view certain 

875
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,400
insects at least with a lot of 
regard. 

876
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,920
It has to do with the coming of 
seasons and and they are 

877
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,120
celebrated in shrines and 
whatnot, right? 

878
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,120
There are a lot of cultural 
significance to this. 

879
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:30,160
What significance did Matsumushi
and Suzumushi have in early 

880
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,560
1930s in Japan? 
And I'm going to say the same 

881
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,760
thing you said that this is a 
forgotten piece of trivia or I 

882
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,640
don't think anybody following 
English trivia would know this. 

883
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,440
You would have to go into some 
Japanese documents and Google 

884
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,760
Translate them. 
Know what I'm talking? 

885
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,120
I came across this in one of my 
again rabbit holes. 

886
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:54,720
So matsumushi and sutsumushi. 
Names are not very relevant, but

887
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,920
yes, these are two different 
types of crickets which are 

888
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,520
associated with the season of 
autumn. 

889
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,760
Two different types of crickets.
What is their importance in the 

890
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,360
1930s? 
One significant event featured 

891
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,120
them prominently in the 1930s. 
OK. 

892
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,480
So one significant event in the 
1930s featured them and you want

893
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,800
to know what that is? 
Yes. 

894
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,760
Is it too early to ask for a 
clue? 

895
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,840
You know what? 
This is a tough question, so I'm

896
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,440
going to give you a clue. 
This happened August 25th, 1931,

897
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,640
so around the time that autumn 
would be arriving in Japan. 

898
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,320
And these were insects 
associated with autumn, but 

899
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,480
doesn't have anything to do with
the seasons specifically, it's 

900
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,320
just that the time coincided 
with that season, so perhaps 

901
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,680
that's why they were chosen. 
This was the first thing of its 

902
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,280
kind in Japan. 
The first thing of its kind in 

903
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Japan, which happened in August 
of 1931, and it had something to

904
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,880
do with. 
Two crickets. 

905
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,560
Yeah, again, perhaps not enough 
of a clue. 

906
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,240
I'm going to give one more clue.
It started in Tokyo, but it did 

907
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:58,880
not end there. 
I already know this, right? 

908
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,240
No, this is not something you 
might know. 

909
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:02,000
This is just one of those piece 
of trivia that I thought was 

910
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,680
interesting, and I'll help you 
along a little bit further on 

911
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,720
this way. 
This had to do with something 

912
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:09,400
that was being done for the 
first time in Japan. 

913
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,040
This started in Tokyo, didn't 
end there. 

914
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:15,680
It in fact was at a point where 
Japan was kind of expanding its 

915
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,120
powers into China. 
The Russians had kind of faded 

916
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,040
into the background in China and
and the Japanese occupation was 

917
00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:28,440
under way. 
And there was a specific city in

918
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,440
now People's Republic of China 
in Liaoning Province. 

919
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,680
It's called Dalian now. 
Back then it was called Dairan. 

920
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,720
It's a similar enough name. 
It started in Tokyo. 

921
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:42,360
It ended in Dairan. 
What happened that connected 

922
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,680
these two cities and involved 
insects? 

923
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,040
It's the first of its kind in 
the world. 

924
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:49,880
No, no. 
The first of its kind in the 

925
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,200
world. 
First of its kind in Japan. 

926
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,720
I did think of something, but it
doesn't make sense that it will 

927
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:56,920
end up in China, so I don't 
think that's the answer. 

928
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,600
You don't have to specifically 
think of something in Japan and 

929
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,480
China. 
This is just something that was 

930
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,760
starting off across the world at
this point of time. 

931
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,480
Some other countries were a 
little bit ahead. 

932
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,880
Japan started in 1931. 
I don't even know where to code 

933
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,400
to start thinking about this 
because I have no frame of 

934
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,080
reference. 
I think I gave a very strong 

935
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,960
hint when I said it connects 
these two cities. 

936
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,600
Exactly what I was saying. 
I thought of something, but then

937
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,040
it doesn't make sense that it 
would end in China because 

938
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,240
Japan's an island. 
Actually, that is perhaps the 

939
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:29,120
biggest hint I could. 
Japan is an island. 

940
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,320
It can't be a road. 
Could be a tunnel, but I don't 

941
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,040
think there are any tunnels. 
My first thought was a train 

942
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,280
Japan and trains and whatnot. 
So it's not that, it's not a 

943
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,040
train, it's not a road, it's not
a highway. 

944
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,920
It's a ferry service. 
I imagine ferry services 

945
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,000
happened in Japan before 1930s 
flight. 

946
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,080
All right, you know what? 
This is one of those trivia, and

947
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,760
I'll tell you why I give this 
trivia in a bit. 

948
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,240
OK. 
Because so far it's been quite 

949
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:58,920
underwhelming, frankly speaking.
OK, we need to relax. 

950
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:05,480
So the first ever flight that 
flew off from Tokyo airport was 

951
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,280
carrying 6000 of these insects 
because back then people were 

952
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,200
not able to afford the very 
expensive flight tickets and 

953
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,440
they wanted to do this almost as
a sales push so as as a 

954
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,920
publicity stunt. 
They are like, OK, these things 

955
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,640
which are honoured and revered 
in our community, in our 

956
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,800
culture, let's fly them in our 
first ever flight. 

957
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,640
So first ever flight that took 
off from Tokyo airport, we went 

958
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:32,120
from Tokyo to this place, Dalian
now, and it carried 6000 of 

959
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:37,480
these insects. 
OK, again, not not the most 

960
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,440
impressive trivet or something. 
That's one of my my rabbit hole 

961
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,040
experiences, one of my rabbit 
hole things. 

962
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,720
I needed to kind of tie 
everything together. 

963
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,520
OK. 
Do you know what my answer to 

964
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,320
the audience questions? 
Yeah, you mentioned some 

965
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,400
illiterative, elegant Elm, 
American tree, something like 

966
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,400
that. 
I did. 

967
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,920
I did. 
You waxed poetic about a tree 

968
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,600
for some reason. 
An Elm tree in Tompkins Square 

969
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:09,240
Park gained significance in 
1966. 

970
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,360
This particular event named that
tree, and it has relevance, of 

971
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,240
course, to Western culture, to 
American culture, but also to us

972
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:20,640
Indians. 
What happened there that gave 

973
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,240
the tree its name? 
It was 1960s. 

974
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,840
Yes. 
And all your answers to now have

975
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,880
had something to do with that. 
The connection, I'll tell you, 

976
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,920
but yes, it has. 
All of them have been connected.

977
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,760
Every single piece of trivia 
that you've heard in this 

978
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,120
episode so far has been 
connected. 

979
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,600
A man with a plan. 
Oh ha ha. 

980
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:47,120
Ha. 1960's The Hippies. 
Very good, very good, very good.

981
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,880
The counterculture, the that 
vibe in New York. 

982
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,520
Yeah, because when you say India
and America 1960's, the first 

983
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,160
obvious thing is that connects 
them is the hippie culture the 

984
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,280
hippie counterculture book? 
A very specific component to the

985
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,440
hippie counter culture that we 
are all familiar with, they've 

986
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,280
all heard of, maybe encountered 
also. 

987
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,280
Too early for Osho, right? 
Very much on the right path, 

988
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,720
literally if you if you extend 
that Osho line of thinking. 

989
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:18,680
OK, let me help you a little 
bit. 

990
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,960
Right in on October 9th, 1966, 
if you walked past this 

991
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,960
particular park and this 
particular tree, you would have 

992
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,120
heard a specific chant there, 
and that chant has kind of given

993
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,120
its name to the. 
Tree as well. 

994
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,720
This is the Hare Krishna 
movement. 

995
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,840
This is the Hare Krishna 
movement. 

996
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,960
But what is it called with the 
word tree? 

997
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,400
Swami Prabhupada for the first 
time when he did a public 

998
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,760
gathering of Hare Krishna 
devotees and they chanted 

999
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,520
together. 
It was at this particular tree 

1000
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:51,800
in Tompkins Square and it got 
the name Hare Krishna Tree. 

1001
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,360
Many years later, or at least a 
few years later, George Harrison

1002
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,000
also came there seeking a higher
consciousness. 

1003
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,120
OK. 
This is the Hari Krishna tree in

1004
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,680
Tompkins Square, a lot of 
devotees of the Hari Krishna. 

1005
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,280
So Hari Krishna, I think the 
offices of what are the main, 

1006
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,160
main headquarters of it is also 
somewhere nearby in New York. 

1007
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,200
I know, isn't that, isn't it 
based in San Francisco? 

1008
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,760
At least the article that I'm 
reading says Lower Manhattan was

1009
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,160
the epicenter of all of these 
things and their particular, the

1010
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,680
headquarters were also in it. 
So maybe the the East Coast, 

1011
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,920
West Coast difference of SF and 
New York, I'm not sure. 

1012
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,720
But in any case, this was where 
like a lot of people were 

1013
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:27,280
gathering. 
A lot of the hippie culture was 

1014
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,360
gaining momentum. 
And Harry Krishna tree is in 

1015
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,200
this particular park now. 
Vineet, let's tie it all up 

1016
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,000
together. 
Are you excited? 

1017
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,600
Please go ahead, the stage is 
yours. 

1018
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,160
So the first question I asked 
you was about The Beatles and 

1019
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,880
the Ramones. 
The Ramones and The Beatles. 

1020
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:52,040
So I told you about a bunch of 
the songs in early 1970. 

1021
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:57,200
Ringo says something because he 
knows John Lennon loves it. 

1022
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,120
Have you heard of the song Hold 
On by John Lennon? 

1023
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:06,680
Yes, in that in between, Lennon 
randomly shouts something which 

1024
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:11,640
the song early 1970 as a tribute
to John Lennon, Ringo also used 

1025
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:14,960
right, early 1978 told you the 
song that Ringo made a post 

1026
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,120
breakup. 
This is a word that John Lennon 

1027
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,040
used in hold on. 
Then Ringo used in early 1970. 

1028
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,000
He shouted cookie. 
OK, All right, hold on to that. 

1029
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,640
Hold on to that. 
Hold on to that little cute 

1030
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,200
piece of trivia, OK? 
Yeah, I'm holding. 

1031
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:33,440
I'm holding. 
The next thing I went to was 

1032
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,720
Mugambo. 
I mentioned that in Toronto 

1033
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:40,240
where that particular episode 
happened, where Trudeau's wife 

1034
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:42,680
was there, there was another 
club that opened. 

1035
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,880
It was called El Mocambo, right,
which was named after Mocambo 

1036
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,840
over there. 
Hold on to that name as well. 

1037
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,560
OK, I've given you two things so
far. 

1038
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,480
OK. 
Then let's move on to the Tokyo 

1039
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,400
airport. 
Piece of trivia now. 

1040
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,600
Tokyo Airport, if you go today, 
the Terminal 1, apparently if 

1041
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,280
you see it from a distance, from
a height, it looks like a bird. 

1042
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,760
All right, so it has a specific 
nickname. 

1043
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,320
Now let's go to the fourth piece
of trivia, which is about 

1044
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:16,040
Alphabet City. 
There was a specific creator of 

1045
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:21,040
something in 1969 who initially 
wanted to name her creation 

1046
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,280
after Ave. 
B OK, eventually it changed its 

1047
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,560
name, but she wanted to name it 
after Ave. 

1048
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,040
B, which I mentioned in Alphabet
City. 

1049
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:29,720
Ave. 
Ave. 

1050
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:30,920
B Ave. 
C, Avenue D. 

1051
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,560
That brings me right back to my 
audience question of Tompkins 

1052
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,400
Square and Hare Krishna Tree, 
right? 

1053
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,040
Where do you think Hare Krishna 
Tree? 

1054
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,280
Tompkins Square is it located? 
Rather like what's right across 

1055
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,040
the street from them. 
Mokambo. 

1056
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,400
I've tied all of it together. 
I have told you Cookie was 

1057
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,360
shouted in that song. 
I've told you the airport looked

1058
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,920
like a bird from distance. 
I've told you the name of the 

1059
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:03,200
club was El Mokambo and I have 
told you something of NUB was 

1060
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,520
the initial name for a show we 
all know. 

1061
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:13,000
Where are you going with this? 
Cookie Bird El Mocambo. 

1062
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,320
A number followed. 
By Sesame Street. 

1063
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:24,240
Oh my God. 
Oh sweet Jesus, Ababa, Oh my 

1064
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:28,160
God. 
The original name for Sesame 

1065
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,240
Street was supposed to be 123 
Avenue B That's what the 

1066
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:34,240
original plan for Sesame Street 
was. 

1067
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,080
If you go to the map on 123 
Avenue B, right across from it, 

1068
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,560
you can see Tompkins Square 
where Hari Krishna Tree is 

1069
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,960
located. 123 Avenue B is 
obviously an actual place. 123 

1070
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,400
Sesame Street is now the 
fictional location that was used

1071
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,040
in the show, but initially it 
was supposed to be called 123 

1072
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,520
Avenue. 
BI told you Elmo Cambo. 

1073
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,560
In short, it's called Elmo. 
Doesn't have any connection to 

1074
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,760
the actual character, but yeah, 
it's called Elmo. 

1075
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,360
The terminal one in Haneda 
Airport is called Big Bird and 

1076
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,960
Cookie because apparently John 
Lennon was a big fan of Cookie 

1077
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,920
Monster so he randomly says 
Cookie in his song in the Cookie

1078
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:15,040
Monster Voice, which Ringo 
replicated in his early 1970s 

1079
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,080
song. 
And that's my 2 days of the week

1080
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,600
gone. 
Completely into this rabbit hole

1081
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,360
and there were at least 30 more 
articles I read. 

1082
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,200
Ladies and gentlemen, this is 
what happens when you are on 

1083
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,120
very strong painkiller. 
You know what? 

1084
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,040
I think that's what happened, 
yeah. 

1085
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,200
Oh my God, man, are you OK? 
I don't think so. 

1086
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,040
See, I I think I've mentioned on
the show before that some of the

1087
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,800
best things that have happened 
in history, not that I'm 

1088
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,240
recommending this, have happened
on drugs. 

1089
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,920
Stephen King wrote his scariest 
novels while he was coked up. 

1090
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,560
Many of the time he can't even 
remember some of the novels that

1091
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,640
he'd written. 
A lot of artists have consumed 

1092
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,320
recreational drugs and have 
produced some of their best work

1093
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,720
while on drugs. 
Not that that's recommended in 

1094
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,760
any sort. 
But now, today, in this episode,

1095
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,000
you have seen the power of 
painkillers. 

1096
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,880
This happened is one of thing. 
Hopefully I won't be on 

1097
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,120
painkillers anytime soon so so 
you won't have to suffer through

1098
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,240
this again, but my God I enjoyed
this. 

1099
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,760
So no, no, I'm actually going. 
No, see, this is really weird, 

1100
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,000
but dude, this is some of your 
best work. 

1101
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,240
This is some of your best work 
so far. 

1102
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,240
You hit me out of left field so 
hard. 

1103
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,320
Oh my God, I'm not going to 
recover from this. 

1104
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,880
This is, I mean, the game has 
been stepped up. 

1105
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:47,640
I can no longer just scoast by 
without themes or whatever this 

1106
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,160
is. 
You made it infinitely more 

1107
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,920
difficult to do this podcast. 
I think our listeners would 

1108
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,800
realize that recently we've been
naming our episodes after like, 

1109
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,000
you know, pop culture 
references. 

1110
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,400
There have been there have been 
random things like that stop, 

1111
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,560
drop and roll link, though theme
things that are, you know, known

1112
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,360
phrases. 
And I was trying to name this 

1113
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:04,760
and I was like, you know what? 
I don't know what to do. 

1114
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,440
And then at some point I was 
like, Oh, you know what? 

1115
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,920
I've not gotten into Sesame 
Street trivia enough. 

1116
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,560
So I went down this whole of 
like, oh, what does Elmo have to

1117
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,200
do with stuff? 
And then I was like, oh, what 

1118
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,440
does Big Bird have to do? 
And so this episode, I'm going 

1119
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,120
to tell you now, is going to be 
named Elmo, Big Bird, Cookie 

1120
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,080
Monster. 
But isn't Elmo named after 

1121
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,360
saying Elmo? 
Yeah, yeah, and none of these 

1122
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,840
are etymologies. 
Elmo, the club is not. 

1123
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,320
OK, yeah, no, I got it. 
I got it. 

1124
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,880
I'm just clarifying since you 
went out the rabbit hole anyway.

1125
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,640
Yeah. 
Wow, dude, I have. 

1126
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,320
I had no clue where you were 
going with this. 

1127
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,920
Absolutely no clue where you're 
going with this. 

1128
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,000
Wow. 
And it all started because after

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last episode, I had a inkling to
go through a list of best Alfred

1130
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,000
Hitchcock films. 
So I I was just going through a 

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00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,480
list and seeing what people have
recommended, how they've ranked 

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00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,400
it. 
And I came across this 

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00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,880
particular list which said that 
in Rear Window, Grace Kelly has 

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00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,600
done some of her best work. 
OK, obviously I was like, oh, 

1135
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,720
let me read a little bit more 
about Grace Kelly's work. 

1136
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,680
And I opened up Grace Kelly 
Wikipedia page, which led me to 

1137
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,120
the film MO Gambo, which I was 
like, oh, is this MO Gambo is 

1138
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,840
there? 
And it just snowballed from 

1139
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,280
there. 
Two days later I woke up. 

1140
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,040
And I don't know which part of 
Wikipedia I was on, but yeah, I 

1141
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,080
was translating random Japanese 
articles just because I was 

1142
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,360
like, why were there insects and
what were these insects doing? 

1143
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,040
I just wanted to know. 
That was my weakest trivia, I'll

1144
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,160
attest to it. 
But Big Bird, I had to tie it in

1145
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,800
somewhere. 
So that's where Big Bird came 

1146
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,120
in. 
Flight of insects. 

1147
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,640
I was like, why is this guy 
talking about flights of 

1148
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,120
insects? 
It is interesting actually. 

1149
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,520
No piece of information is not 
interesting per SE. 

1150
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,880
And so they are all like degrees
of. 

1151
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,280
Interesting. 
Not quantified by the lower AQM.

1152
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,960
Yeah, we would not put this in 
the regular episode, but for 

1153
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,400
today I had. 
Oh yes, all. 

1154
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,920
Right, yes, I'm tired. 
I think I need painkillers 

1155
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,600
again, Vineet. 
I'll let you do the end of it. 

1156
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,480
Oh no, no, no, you're not off 
the hook yet. 

1157
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,200
You have to give us your pop 
culture. 

1158
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,640
Recommendations. 
Oh my Lord, I completely forgot.

1159
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,640
OK yeah no I do have some fun 
pop culture recommendations 

1160
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,520
because, well, we are talking 
about Sesame Street and you 

1161
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,520
know, animals and whatnot. 
So I watched 2 films recently 

1162
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,120
and both of them really good. 
Must check it out. 

1163
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:21,800
Bad guys too and Zootopia too. 
Just so much fun, like absolute 

1164
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,800
absolute fun. 
Bad guys too, Zootopia too. 

1165
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:32,480
Great films, go check those out,
this animal centred animation 

1166
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,760
hitting a nice emotional chord 
and you have fun with it. 

1167
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,280
You know what, since Vineet is 
taking a few more moments, I'm 

1168
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,800
going to come back to another 
film and Vineet ha ha ha. 

1169
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,960
You know the only one who 
watches Malayalam cinema because

1170
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,520
I watched Echo. 
Ah yes, finally. 

1171
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,360
I thought the premise was very 
interesting. 

1172
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,160
The setup, it's cinematography 
is beyond beautiful. 

1173
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,560
For anybody who's seen the 
trailer or even seen the poster,

1174
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,200
you know that dogs are featured 
in it. 

1175
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,240
From whatever I read, there's no
CGI involved in it. 

1176
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,680
So the dogs were actually doing 
whatever acting, the animal 

1177
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,760
acting they were doing in the 
film, and it was executed very 

1178
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,160
well. 
So kudos to whoever the animal 

1179
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,080
trainer was in the film as well.
Very good execution. 

1180
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:18,800
I just felt they, because it's 
some sort of a thriller mystery,

1181
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,880
I think they put in a lot of red
herring. 

1182
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,200
So there was a lot of fluff 
added to it to kind of throw you

1183
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:28,040
off the scent, pun intended from
a dog perspective, but it made 

1184
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,240
it a little like it added just 
unnecessary fact to the film. 

1185
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,480
If they had trimmed out the 
fact, I think this would have 

1186
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,000
been a nine on ten film, at 
least for me. 

1187
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,280
It ended up being A7 on 10. 
But watch it for for a very 

1188
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,960
interesting storyline, some 
great performances, some 

1189
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,280
beautiful cinematography that 
captured the. 

1190
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,480
Hills and the fantastic last 
five seconds. 

1191
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,680
So yeah, that's what I mean. 
Like the the the twist did hit 

1192
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,440
but I feel like along the way 
they kind of a little bit lost 

1193
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,320
me with the added on fat of it. 
Fair enough, fair enough. 

1194
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:05,040
I would recommend then that you 
check out Kalam Kaaval on Sony 

1195
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:10,560
Live, which is a Malayalam as 
usual thriller serial killer 

1196
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,080
film. 
It's partially based on the real

1197
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,560
life serial killer Cyanide 
Mohan. 

1198
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:22,400
The movie stars Mammootty as the
titular serial killer. 

1199
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,320
Right, right, right, right. 
When you're reaching the fag end

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01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:30,200
of your career, very few people 
want to take risks. 

1201
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,520
They usually want to cement 
their legacy. 

1202
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,720
And that's what practically 
everybody is doing, whether 

1203
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,600
Kamalasana Rajinikanth or 
Amitabh Bachchan or like, 

1204
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:39,880
they're not doing anything 
risky. 

1205
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,240
Like, you know, the last time 
you've seen Amitabh Bachchan do 

1206
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,680
like, a really risky role play 
something, you know, completely 

1207
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,800
out of left field. 
I'll give him props, or I think 

1208
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,240
that was an interesting choice. 
Yeah, but power was a good long 

1209
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,320
while ago. 
That is true. 

1210
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,320
Yeah. 
In the past couple of years, 

1211
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,640
Mammootty has played a serial 
killer. 

1212
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:06,720
He has played a goblin, a little
horror movie goblin. 

1213
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,840
He has played a gay man. 
That's another movie. 

1214
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,960
If you haven't watched it, watch
Kadil the Core. 

1215
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,840
He's played a gay man in that. 
He's also done some fantastic 

1216
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,760
bangal masala films also in 
between. 

1217
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,480
Unfortunately, not a lot of 
leading men in any of the Indian

1218
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,520
cinema, as far as I know, are 
playing game. 

1219
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,400
And so, yeah, props to Mammothy.
Yeah, the man is a legend. 

1220
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,920
And check out Kalam Kaabil on 
Sony Dev. 

1221
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,520
OK, And that's all the time we 
have for this episode. 

1222
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,880
I would recommend that listeners
remember the fact that Aditya 

1223
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,800
has said that he will be 
checking out Kalam Kaabil. 

1224
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,080
So if next week he does not 
include it in his 

1225
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,160
recommendation, you know what to
do. 

1226
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,960
OK, so that's all the time we 
have for this week's episode. 

1227
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,160
Please check us out and follow 
us on whichever platform you 

1228
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,360
are. 
Please, please, please, we need 

1229
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,200
more followers on YouTube. 
All those people who are 

1230
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,360
following us on Spotify, please 
just go select the subscribe 

1231
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,440
button on YouTube. 
Now you can watch us on YouTube 

1232
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,640
video there or you can listen to
us on YouTube Music. 

1233
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,920
Give us some subscribers here. 
What are you guys doing? 

1234
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,040
Yeah, check out subreddit. 
As we mentioned, we have major 

1235
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,880
quiz sets on Thursdays and a 
question of the day every day. 

1236
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,240
Aditya now puts out Sunday 
quizzes on Instagram on every 

1237
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,760
Sunday morning so you can check 
those out. 

1238
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,280
And you get messages to tell us 
your score. 

1239
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,640
We are greedy to know. 
I actually love, I love the fact

1240
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,800
that some of our listeners are 
so, so enthusiastic that I got 

1241
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,160
corrected actually because I had
mistakenly put the when you on 

1242
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,080
Instagram, you can choose which 
is the right answer for a 

1243
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,040
question. 
And I had mistakenly put the 

1244
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,720
wrong answer as the right 
answer. 

1245
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,040
And I got like within like 10 
seconds, I got like 3 messages 

1246
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,280
saying, Hey, you messed up. 
Paris is on the river sent. 

1247
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:45,920
And I'm like sorry my bad. 
So yeah, that's it. 

1248
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:47,640
See you guys next week. 
See you guys next week. 

1249
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,040
I got it. 
I got it. 

1250
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:50,520
I got it This time. 
I got it. 

1251
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,200
You were late. 
Yeah, you did. 

1252
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,120
You did See you guys next week 
and I will see you again next 

1253
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,880
week. 
And I, this is the last word and

1254
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,680
you cannot say anything. 
Jinx, turn off the recording. 

1255
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,120
Turn it off. 
Now Do it.