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Welcome back. 
Wow, we're so In Sync, right? 

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Now, so In Sync, 27 day or 
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Mexico, it's been a long we've 
not left each other's side. 

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I know, but that's all about to 
change this morning. 

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Are you sad? 
I'm very sad we've come to the 

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end of our holiday. 
We've been here for nearly three

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weeks and it's been heavenly. 
But now Lachy's flying to 

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Nashville into a snowstorm, 
which we've fun. 

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Yeah, America is. 
It's having polar opposite 

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experiences at the moment. 
It's in all sorts. 

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It's LA is obviously having 
those tragic fires. 

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Which is it in mind blowing? 
I was messaging. 

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So we, I, we went to Malibu this
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went all along that road and I 
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And so to see that place is 
completely burnt down now is 

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mind blowing. 
Yeah, I've seen a friend of ours

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in the industries, his house and
studio burnt to the ground some,

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you know, some Shepherd songs 
written there. 

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So it's pretty sad. 
Yeah, it's pretty scary. 

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But you know, we'll keep an eye 
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it is just buying someone a 
hotel room for a. 

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Night it's going to be 
interesting to see how it 

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recovers from that. 
That's what I'm interested to 

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see. 
So fingers crossed it all comes 

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together. 
Then on the flip side, so flying

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into Nashville, Nashville, we've
had some buddies here who are at

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Emma's wedding, which is the 
reason why we're in Mexico. 

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They were saying, oh, there's 
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warnings in Nashville and in 
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And I was like, really? 
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bucketing down. 
It's meant to get like 7 inches 

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of snow. 
So I'm hoping. 

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And Nashville isn't one of those
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with snow. 
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the second year. 
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So. 
I'm sure it's not the like the 

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second time, it's history. 
They have to bring in plows from

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other cities and states to. 
Mr. Plow. 

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That's my name. 
Simpsons reference. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So anyway, how are you feeling 

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about embarking on this 58 
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58 days? 
How many days till you start? 

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It's like what is today? 
Today's the 11th, so I start on 

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the 22nd. 
It's the 11th in America, it's 

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the 12th in Australia. 
I am excited. 

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I've done all I can do really. 
Like physically you're ready. 

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I'm I'm either ready or I'm not 
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I feel like I'm ready, but we'll
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There's a few things I need to 
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Like we obviously are going 
early because I want to set up 

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the van, get the Starling set 
up, set up the bed. 

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We realized yesterday we walked 
into a shop Amy and I did and it

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smelt lovely. 
So I said I'm going to get some 

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nice fragrances for the boys so 
it doesn't smell like a frat 

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house and but I also need to get
conditioned to running in the 

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snow again. 
I think last year I was very 

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fortunate because we got there 
what at start of October I think

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and it was still warm at that 
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So we got to, I guess, adjust or
climatize with it as it got 

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cooler. 
Whereas this year I'm just going

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from like summer in Australia 
where it's like 40°C, beautiful,

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maybe 100°F. 
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summer in Australia, and then 
winter in Mexico, which is still

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like summer. 
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like 25°C, so maybe like 70°F. 
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So that's going to be the one 
challenge is going back to the 

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snow, trying to find a snow 
gear. 

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I've got 25 K tomorrow, so we'll
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I'll find out pretty quickly 
what I need and what I. 

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Need to run. 
Shelby, probably, Yeah. 

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I'll probably just run from 
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Bottoms and back. 
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whether you can drive anywhere 
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with our car. 
No, you won't be. 

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I'll. 
I'll run and I'll just see 

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because it'll let me know if the
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waterproof. 
If the gloves that I've got, 

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I've got to find them. 
We've got to go to the storage 

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unit and dig that up. 
But aside from that, I've been 

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given, I've been given some 
shots I need to collect for the 

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documentary, so I'm making a 
documentary out of it. 

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Shots is in. 
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Because our videographer doesn't
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start. 
So he's like you've got to 

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you've got to film saying 
goodbye to Amy, you've got to 

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film Good St. going to the 
airport. 

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You got to film all of these 
things because they could be 

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useful for the documentary. 
So I'm going to obviously be a 

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Co producer now. 
That's right. 

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No, they're going to get the big
tears. 

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How do you feel though, because 
it is potentially so at worst 

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it's going to be, well, today's 
the 11th. 

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I either won't see you until 
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actually now can we talk about 
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Say a tour, Yeah. 
There's a tour happening and at 

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the moment it's half a tour, 
which means Amy will be on tour 

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from the 4th to the 16th of 
March in the USA, in the USA and

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I finish in Australia on the 
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So if Amy, if they're doing that
half the tour ideal, in an ideal

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world, Amy will come over a week
before and we'll catch up, which

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means it'll be six weeks until 
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Still a long time. 
Still a long time, but six weeks

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is a lot easier to get my head 
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The second option is Amy doesn't
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her. 
I won't see you until Brisbane 

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on March 20 or maybe March 19, 
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which is 8 weeks. 
OK. 

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And the third option, which I 
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aware is if you get the full 
tour, you probably won't see me 

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for two weeks after. 
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Goodness. 
When I finish and by them, we'll

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probably just meet you in Europe
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That's crazy. 
So this could be wild. 

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And the, I think the hardest 
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why it's going to be the hardest
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still going through the IVF 
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Yeah. 
So not being kind of. 

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Impossible to have a baby when 
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So we didn't time this very 
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Well, it's just, it's not that. 
It's just that, you know? 

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12 months ago when we planned 
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playing the Run, we weren't 
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And then tours pop up and you 
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like trying to make, it's like 
trying to herd cats, really 

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trying to make all the stars 
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And the scheduling is crazy. 
Yeah, it's pretty, pretty 

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challenging. 
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To have a baby, yeah, Well, to 
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yeah, it might take some time. 
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really a goal that we can have 
control over in in saying it's a

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goal of ours. 
It's in terms of putting that as

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a priority. 
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I think after this first 
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chaotic and had pre commitments,
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will it help us with the main 
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We'll probably be the questions 
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Yeah. 
So yeah, that's going to be 

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challenging. 
I I think as well, like because 

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I know how well don't actually 
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deeply personal and emotional 
thing, the IVF, because you also

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don't know what's going to 
happen and the fact that I won't

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be there to go through it with 
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shit dude. 
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and it's just the sacrifices you
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dreams come true. 
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payoff even sweeter when we get 
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But yeah, I've got to do part of
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potentially the next cycle 
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So it's going to be an 
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But luckily I've got amazing 
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I mean, Emma will be there for a
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Yeah, there's FaceTime which 
will help. 

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Yeah, well, it takes us back to 
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relationship. 
Before FaceTime even existed, we

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were using a thing called 
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I know a lot of the young people
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Snapchat is. 
They're using Snapchat. 

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Yeah, I don't really use it, but
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you would essentially it's like 
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Photo sharing platform. 

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Yeah, there was only Skype, 
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thing as FaceTime when we said. 
Skype you had to pay to use and 

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we were too stingy. 
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So we'd just go and we realized 
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feature where you a circle would
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friend was online and you'd hold
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down at the same time. 
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And there was like a portal it 
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on the screen that you could 
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And we used to, like, hold on to
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And that's essentially how we 
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Yeah, we would spend hours 
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back in Tomba, so we'd just 
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pressure on it to allow the 
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And we'd be talking for so long 
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sore and it'd lose a little bit 
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call off or you'd just fall 
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the pressure off. 
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in where you could hold it down 
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it locked it. 
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And then obviously Apple said, 
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And here we are. 
So video calls are awesome. 

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However, I think I do really 
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I'm being honest. 
I think it would have been such 

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a fun experience. 
Like part of me says like it'll 

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be boring as batshit for you 
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hours plus and then we're 
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Prepping and cooking I could be 
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Yeah, but I think it at the same
time, it'll still be like seeing

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the country in the way so many 
people never get to see it. 

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Yeah, and I think it's a great 
boys trip. 

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I think it's so rare that you 
get to do those boys slash girls

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trips. 
And I think it's one that you're

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gonna remember forever and it's 
never happening again. 

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So enjoy it. 
We will see, ladies and 

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gentlemen, because I have a 
feeling I have a feeling I'm not

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going to share what that feeling
is, but if you want to follow 

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along, make sure you go over to 
my Instagram and follow along 

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and you'll you'll get to 
definitely. 

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But no, I'm not too sad because 
I'm excited for you. 

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I think it's going to be and 
you're excited. 

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I think it's a great thing. 
So can't hold you back for my. 

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Own comfort. 
I'm a Peacock, let me fly. 

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No, I think it's going to be 
definitely as as exciting as it 

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is, it's definitely going to be 
very hard. 

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I was thinking about it when we 
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Am I going to be in bed by 
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And you just when you, it's 
essentially changed because it's

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not like a one or two day. 
I normally go nuts when you're 

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away for like 4 days at a hens 
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So, or even when I was back in 
Australia for I think what was 

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it, 10 days like those things. 
However, it could, you know, 

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this run will lead to a lot of a
lot of other opportunities 

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potentially that will help us 
achieve other goals in our life.

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So yes, I'm very much looking 
forward to it. 

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But yeah, I, we don't need to do
any questions this week. 

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We wanted to just do this as a 
goodbye episode. 

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The podcast will still be 
happening. 

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We'll be doing it over online 
and I was thinking about for 

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when when I was running, I was 
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So it's actually a. 
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with all of the Patreon members.
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Lachie some questions about his 
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our dates. 
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want to do is that a week? 
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on the road that'll be. 
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those heads, my Patreon at Amy 
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fun because it's going to be a 
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I need to, like, restructure a 
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Patreon is leading. 
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earners. 
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merch for those people who have 
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highest level. 
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Australia flying today, I want 
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The the cool thing about 
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is it evolves as you evolve as a
person because it is you 

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giving for where you're at in 
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So as you potentially, you know,
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Academy when I started it, I was
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fatherhood, there's like a lot 
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personal branding. 
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talking about this now, but it's
like an exciting opportunity 

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because everyone listening is 
brilliant at so many things and 

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you can actually invite people 
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there's a lot of people wanting 
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like minded people. 
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essentially is, is you sham. 
What's interesting to you and 

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and you're focused on and 
there's a lot of other people 

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who relate to that and maybe 
they grow out of it or you grow 

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me. 
Do you have one before before we

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Didn't prep you for this? 
I just thought, is there 

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anything on the top of your head
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Question are you? 
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nervous, but I probably already 
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The answer is yes, but you won't
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I'm definitely nervous, but I'm 
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I'll be able to deal with, I'll 
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I hope people take away from it.
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It's not easy, it sucks, it's 
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I think a popular question 
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what happens if I don't want to 
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that, are you going to do you 
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No, no, no, no, start again. 
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We've got 10s of thousands of 
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leaving from San Diego on the 
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So whatever happens has to I'm 
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day regardless, even if it means
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Colorado's get stuck in a 
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marathons as I need to in 
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make up the other. 
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marathons. 
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that up as we get to New York 
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but I'm also prepared to do 
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I think in a weird way I'm 
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saying this to Amy. 
I'm not worried about doing 58 

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marathons. 
That to me doesn't like, feel 

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scary. 
I'm not worried about it either.

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I, I, I would feel more 
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58 kilometers in 58 days because
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marathons. 
I've run plenty of marathons. 

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So yeah, I, I, part of me was 
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that does happen. 
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So we'll see. 
We'll see. 

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We will see. 
Well, ladies and gentlemen, this

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is the last time I'm going to 
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Get used to that screen there. 
Yeah, get used to that. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
And we appreciate you guys 

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supporting. 
The next time you see us, we'll 

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be, I'll be in probably 
Nashville or Seattle, Amy, we'll

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be back in Brisbane. 
But it's going to be a hell of a

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yarn, and we'll be back to. 
What a way to kick off 2025. 

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I know what an absolute way. 
All right, ladies and gentlemen,

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Who?
