1 00:00:05,100 --> 00:00:07,200 Welcome to the let it flow podcast. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,600 I'm Alexis and I'm Carly. We're just two humans figuring 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,400 things out. And we're here to share deeper 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,700 conversations about mindset, spirituality, personal growth 5 00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:19,000 and tangents on everything in between. 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,700 We hope this podcast encourages you to ask bigger questions and 7 00:00:23,700 --> 00:00:28,300 think and live outside the box. We are always learning. 8 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:32,600 But the one thing we found to be 100% true, is that life is meant 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,700 to flow. So whether you're all in on your 10 00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:39,300 personal growth dirty or just starting out, let's flow 11 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:46,400 together. Welcome back to another episode 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,700 of the Let It Flow podcast. We have another guest on today. 13 00:00:49,700 --> 00:00:53,300 We're so excited, we are talking to leopardi. 14 00:00:53,300 --> 00:00:56,700 She is an author speaker and breathwork facilitator. 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,900 She hosts the bare naked Soul podcast and is the author of 16 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:03,600 confessions of an uncaged Soul plus 2. 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,800 Guided journals, Leah, teaches women all over the world to 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,800 navigate fear and live a slow sensual and intentional life in 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,600 the present moment, which is so perfect for Let It Flow. 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,300 What we focus on so, welcome Leah. 21 00:01:17,900 --> 00:01:20,400 How are you? Oh, I'm so good. 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,400 I'm so excited to be here with you guys. 23 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,000 Just love these open conversations and love your 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,400 guys's Vibe. I'm like this is going to be a 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,400 really good conversation. Yes, we're excited too. 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,800 And I think I have to throw it out there that Carly had texted 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,600 me after our last guest episode and said, it would be so fun to 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,700 have a breathwork facilitator on the podcast. 29 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:42,600 Maybe one will come to us and I kid you not a couple hours 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,600 later. Later, Leah popped into. 31 00:01:44,700 --> 00:01:47,400 My DMs and said, hi, I'm a breathwork facilitator and would 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,000 love to be on your podcast and it was the critical thing I 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,500 about through my phone across the room. 34 00:01:53,500 --> 00:01:58,500 Like what kind of Wizardry is? This is called it right in. 35 00:01:58,900 --> 00:02:00,800 What can I say? The alignments there. 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,300 The energy is there. It's so exciting. 37 00:02:03,300 --> 00:02:07,100 And I'm so excited to talk to you about this because breath 38 00:02:07,100 --> 00:02:12,200 work is so powerful. And I've really fallen in love 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,500 with it. I've had some wild experiences 40 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:18,600 with breathwork. And yeah, I'm just so excited to 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,600 hear like how you got into it and like what really spoke to 42 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,300 you about it. Yeah, absolutely. 43 00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:28,600 It is so powerful. So it started with meditation 44 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,700 about four years ago. I, you know, I had heard about 45 00:02:31,700 --> 00:02:33,800 it and I think I was like reading about it in books. 46 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,100 I was starting to get really, to the spirituality stuff. 47 00:02:36,100 --> 00:02:39,000 And I remember being like intimidated by it though because 48 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,000 I was like, well, at the time I was I really identified as a 49 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,800 Christian at the time and you know, more religious than 50 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,500 spiritual. And so I was like well is this 51 00:02:48,500 --> 00:02:52,000 bad like is this like you know, something will make God mad at 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,400 me like you know, because I didn't know anyone who meditated 53 00:02:55,700 --> 00:02:57,000 at all. Look at all. 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,600 And so it's funny because I started meditating. 55 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,100 And then next thing I knew when I opened up the Bible, the next 56 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:06,200 time I noticed the word meditate is in there, so like so much, 57 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,500 although it's not incorporated into creating the modern 58 00:03:08,500 --> 00:03:10,500 Christianity, which is really, really interesting. 59 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,400 Resting. But anyways, so I got really 60 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,500 into meditation start with like, started really small, like five 61 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:19,600 minutes in the morning. Five minutes before bed got 62 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,800 hooked. It just helps me feel more 63 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,000 present. More at ease less anxiety. 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,200 It was just, it was just so crazy. 65 00:03:27,700 --> 00:03:30,200 Really tapping into that Joy from within, you know, for the 66 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,000 first time in my life, it was, it was what's this happiness? 67 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,800 That's not caused by someone outside of me. 68 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,500 Something happening. That's going my way, right? 69 00:03:39,700 --> 00:03:43,200 And so pretty The way I found breath work and I started, you 70 00:03:43,208 --> 00:03:45,600 know, going to different peoples workshops online and things like 71 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,300 that. And I just couldn't believe like 72 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:53,100 the Altered States and puts you in and the euphoria that comes 73 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:55,700 and then I started kind of deepen my understanding, and 74 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:59,000 learning about how it actually helps us to shed those, those 75 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,500 energies, those trapped emotions. 76 00:04:00,500 --> 00:04:04,200 Those repressed emotions over time and started to realize, 77 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,100 like how healing and Powerful it was. 78 00:04:06,100 --> 00:04:09,600 So from there became a facilitator and incorporate that 79 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,300 into my business But yeah, it's really really, it's a really 80 00:04:14,300 --> 00:04:18,399 cool experience. So Carly went to what was that 81 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:20,200 in Yoga Retreat. I wanted you to share what 82 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,600 happened to you and oh yeah. He's talking about those 83 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,400 euphoric States, what that what that means? 84 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,000 Like, how can breathing change your state. 85 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,100 So I'd love for you to share what happened to you because 86 00:04:30,100 --> 00:04:31,900 it's kind of crazy. Yeah. 87 00:04:31,900 --> 00:04:36,700 So I've been doing breathwork kind of off and on for quite a 88 00:04:36,707 --> 00:04:41,100 few years now it started with I mean yoga years Years ago. 89 00:04:41,100 --> 00:04:44,800 But I didn't really realize that at the time that there was like, 90 00:04:44,900 --> 00:04:46,300 it was like one in the same for me. 91 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:49,600 I didn't realize that you could just do breath work and not be 92 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:55,900 also, doing yoga, the Asana of yoga and then pause for a few 93 00:04:55,900 --> 00:05:00,800 years and I discovered when Hoff and his breath work. 94 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,800 So, I got in it and that was beautiful, just like the feeling 95 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,600 that comes alive in the body and like the release of some of the 96 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,000 emotions. But by far the Wildest 97 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,600 experience I've had, is this past year at the end of the 98 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,000 year, I discovered this teaching of yoga called satva yoga, I 99 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,700 don't know if you've heard of it, but it's very integrative. 100 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:27,800 So you have all the different yoga's like in one so like 101 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,700 Ashtanga. And the, which is Kundalini like 102 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:36,700 all of these and breathwork is a huge portion of the practice. 103 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,600 And one day, it was one of the rich. 104 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,600 REITs. That me and my mom went to 105 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,800 actually, we were doing this practice and these practices, 106 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,400 you know, you start with a lot of breath work and Korea, which 107 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,200 would just like repetitive postures, and then we do more of 108 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:56,000 the Asana yoga practice. And then at the end our guide, 109 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,300 she brought us through really powerful deep breathing. 110 00:05:59,700 --> 00:06:04,000 So you were like in as deep as you can and then out as much as 111 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:10,900 you can and all of the sudden I was coming to and Her, and the 112 00:06:10,900 --> 00:06:13,900 other woman there were helping me, sit up. 113 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:17,300 And I had like, completely, like, I don't know if even 114 00:06:17,300 --> 00:06:22,400 passed out is the right word, but I had just, I was gone, and 115 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:27,600 I got up and I told Alexis this, I'm like, I had never felt my 116 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:34,400 body, so alive before it was like my room and then I got up 117 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,200 and was like, whoa, setup. They helped me like lean over 118 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:43,700 and all the sudden, just waves of emotion came over me, and I 119 00:06:43,707 --> 00:06:47,400 was just crying, like, crying silently, but it was just 120 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,800 release release release and I and the beautiful thing that 121 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,600 I've experienced with breathwork, which I'd love to 122 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,500 hear your thoughts as well. Is, I didn't feel like I needed 123 00:06:56,500 --> 00:07:00,300 to get in there and know exactly what it was, but I could feel 124 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:04,700 the release and that is so beautiful because oftentimes in 125 00:07:04,700 --> 00:07:10,000 personal growth and development, I feel like we can sometimes Get 126 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,300 lost, and there's a part of it, that's important but we can get 127 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:16,600 lost in almost the, I don't know if dramas the right word. 128 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,600 If like what caused these these challenges in our lives. 129 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,600 But it's the thing I love about breathwork is you can release 130 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,100 those and not have to like, get into the drama and really 131 00:07:28,100 --> 00:07:31,300 understand what it was. It just is like Flume Gahan and 132 00:07:31,300 --> 00:07:33,400 it's, I'm have goose bumps right now. 133 00:07:34,700 --> 00:07:37,700 Oh my gosh, such a cool experience. 134 00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:39,900 It's yeah. It's almost like you had like an 135 00:07:39,900 --> 00:07:43,000 out-of-body experience. It's really it does make you 136 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,700 feel alive. It's one of those things with 137 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:47,200 breathwork where it is. Hard to explain why someone 138 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,400 listening who's never done before. 139 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,100 They might be like, okay, what like what's really going on 140 00:07:51,100 --> 00:07:53,200 here? But it takes you, so deep into 141 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,700 your body that you do feel so alive. 142 00:07:55,900 --> 00:07:59,200 And I totally agree. I think it's a very, it's it 143 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,500 makes sense to say like yeah, we do get caught up in the drama. 144 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:04,200 We get caught up in the stories around. 145 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,700 Why this happened? And why we shouldn't have 146 00:08:06,700 --> 00:08:10,700 happened to us or the explanations in our Why this 147 00:08:10,700 --> 00:08:13,600 trauma, whatever. And like, yeah, there's a time 148 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:18,600 and a place for those things, but you can only go so far being 149 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:23,300 in the mind and the mind will often, as we all know continue 150 00:08:23,300 --> 00:08:26,700 to replay itself, right? The mind is always replaying 151 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:29,700 things and repeating things and they tend to be negative. 152 00:08:29,900 --> 00:08:32,000 And so we tend to be so caught up there. 153 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,500 And that's why I like my whole thing is like the present moment 154 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:37,900 because there's so much power when you let go of the thinking, 155 00:08:37,900 --> 00:08:42,000 mind you come into the body. And so with breathwork like you 156 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,300 were saying yeah it like releases things without you 157 00:08:44,300 --> 00:08:47,700 having their like re grommet become re-traumatized. 158 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:51,500 You don't have to revisit that exact experience to release it, 159 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,800 which is so profound and how it works is. 160 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,500 Basically, you know, from the time we were little children, 161 00:08:58,500 --> 00:09:01,300 you know, we were taught it's not okay to cry. 162 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:05,000 Be a big girl, you know, stop. Stop it like, you know, 163 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,200 especially men even more. So but we were taught that 164 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,600 emotions really aren't cool. It's a really not okay to have. 165 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,300 Personally not, okay. To feel what you're feeling, 166 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:14,500 it's not okay, to be angry and then we went to school and it 167 00:09:14,500 --> 00:09:18,300 was speaking more reinforced the world taught us to suppress our 168 00:09:18,300 --> 00:09:22,400 emotions essentially, and now we become adults. 169 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,600 And most of us, you know, drink wine or excess food. 170 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,600 I remember like binge eating on this binge eating period in my 171 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,700 twenties where I thought. I don't know why I'm eating so 172 00:09:32,700 --> 00:09:34,800 much food, but like I'll never be able to stop. 173 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,000 And I now see that I was pushing down the stress of my job and 174 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,000 the anxiety. I was feeling and we go to 175 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,700 Netflix and porn and social media like whatever it is. 176 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:48,800 We're trying to numb ourselves. We don't want to feel it, but we 177 00:09:48,808 --> 00:09:50,800 really need to do is feel it to heal it. 178 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,300 Like that's all we have to do to process. 179 00:09:53,300 --> 00:09:55,600 Those emotions that could literally stuck inside of our 180 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,100 bodies is feel them. Allow them to be there. 181 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:05,000 So, the emotions are energy and they're stuck in our body until 182 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,600 they get triggered something, triggers us, you know, there's 183 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,400 like that phrase where someone says that you Didn't your body 184 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,800 like get angry coming up. We all have triggers and so we 185 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,500 get triggered and those emotions start to come back up. 186 00:10:17,500 --> 00:10:19,500 But normally we shove them back down. 187 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:22,300 So, we have a lot going on inside of their bottled up with 188 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:26,600 us causing disease, causing anxiety, causing depression. 189 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:30,400 And so with Brad work or really tapping into that energetic 190 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:35,000 layer where those energies are stored and through the breath. 191 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,100 And through those movements in those strong and fast, breaths 192 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:39,600 that you described we're releasing. 193 00:10:39,700 --> 00:10:42,300 Those energies. And so it's a really common 194 00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:44,900 experience to have crying or anger. 195 00:10:45,300 --> 00:10:48,100 Some people had a lot of visuals that come up for them. 196 00:10:48,300 --> 00:10:52,100 I have had memories come up but it's never been like it's never 197 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:54,500 been anything very specific. It's kind of been a random 198 00:10:54,500 --> 00:10:58,200 flashes of memories and I've never had anyone say that they 199 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,400 had that they relived a trauma. Like, I've never heard of that 200 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,100 happening turn breathwork, so you're experiencing Euphoria or 201 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:08,600 crying or all these different things. 202 00:11:09,300 --> 00:11:16,900 And typically, what follows is lightness is like, ah, just feel 203 00:11:16,900 --> 00:11:20,500 lighter afterwards because you released things in such a deep 204 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,700 physical cellular way. It's so crazy. 205 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,700 I am new to breathwork, I downloaded an app that was doing 206 00:11:28,700 --> 00:11:30,500 a free 30 days and it was the new year. 207 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:32,300 So I thought, why not try something new? 208 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,700 And I've noticed on their app that there's different types of 209 00:11:36,700 --> 00:11:39,400 breath work. Depending on what thing, I On 210 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,400 they'll be one where it's just focus on your breath and keep it 211 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,800 steady. And then there's some that's 212 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,900 478. Then, there's some that are box 213 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:49,000 breathing. And I was wondering if you could 214 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,200 for anybody listening, that's new to breathwork describe the 215 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,700 differences between different types of breathing or different 216 00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:58,200 practices and breathwork. I might be saying things wrong 217 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,400 here and not knowing the terminology, but it ended like 218 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,500 tell a little bit about that. Yeah, yeah, totally. 219 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,300 And the interesting thing with breathwork is, there's different 220 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:09,600 terminology. So, there's different name Names 221 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:12,700 for the same kind of breathing, which is a little bit confusing, 222 00:12:12,700 --> 00:12:15,600 but there's like, people have kind of coin like the Wim Hof 223 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,700 method which I love love him, but like, he coined a breath 224 00:12:19,700 --> 00:12:23,500 work with his name, which is fine, but it's like been around 225 00:12:23,500 --> 00:12:27,000 for, you know, thousands of years, just like yoga and then 226 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,800 other people have named other breath works in the, you know, 227 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,600 have given the name. So it's a little bit. 228 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,000 Unlike yoga is like a new but there's like, very specific 229 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,000 names for each thing with breathwork. 230 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,300 It's there could be different For calling it and it's 231 00:12:40,300 --> 00:12:43,000 different things but basically all breath work is is just 232 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,800 different breathing patterns. So like you have I mean there's 233 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,100 so many different ones but like the Box breathing you're 234 00:12:49,100 --> 00:12:52,300 breathing in in for a certain number of breaths and breathing 235 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:54,000 out for a certain number of breaths and you're doing some 236 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,200 counting there's like Breath of Fire which is common in yoga 237 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:02,500 where you doing really rapidly Breath of Fire a for so long 238 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:04,600 that was like my go-to for like a couple months ago. 239 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,900 I was worried that like, every day, it was just like my go-to. 240 00:13:07,900 --> 00:13:09,600 Yeah. You doing like Deep breaths into 241 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,000 the belly like really, really, really fast the kind that you 242 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,500 were probably doing, although there are different names for it 243 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:19,000 on Carly, the one that you described is typically 244 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,100 considered conscious connected breathwork so it's like a 245 00:13:21,108 --> 00:13:24,600 circular breathing pattern, it's fast and strong, you're like, 246 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,500 lying down for this experience, that's one. 247 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:31,000 That was something that was unique to that experience for 248 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,600 me. And I've done Santa for 249 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,800 practices after that. And it's a common thing in that 250 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,400 practice, they call. I don't know how many they are. 251 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,300 I'm actually doing a training in a few months. 252 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:47,500 I'm going to India to do this training but so I'll find out. 253 00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:51,400 But they have Cosmic breaths and there's like different patterns 254 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,300 and this one, if I remember correctly, it was in very deeply 255 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:59,200 through the nose out. Very deeply through the nose in 256 00:13:59,300 --> 00:14:02,900 through the mouth and then out to the mouth and then so 257 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,200 something like that. Like that. 258 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,000 I don't know what happened but That's incredible. 259 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,700 Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah. 260 00:14:12,700 --> 00:14:15,100 There's so many different breathing patterns and it's a 261 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:18,500 really cool thing to dive into because it's there's just always 262 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:21,500 something new to learn, always a new way of doing it. 263 00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:24,600 So what would you say to people starting out in it? 264 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,000 When say, I go on this app? I see all of these different 265 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,000 options of classes or meditations to do. 266 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,300 Some of them are four minutes long. 267 00:14:32,300 --> 00:14:35,300 Some of them are an hour long, does the timing matter? 268 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:37,500 I mean, you're gonna have a different experience with the 269 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:41,500 amount of time, so, The kind of breath work where you're going 270 00:14:41,500 --> 00:14:44,900 to have the experience of like crying and releasing and having 271 00:14:44,900 --> 00:14:47,000 a Trippy experience. It's going to be, at least like 272 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,200 a 20, 30 minute session. Typically you know, you're 273 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,500 probably not going to have that smell like a five or ten minute 274 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:55,000 session. But if you're just starting out 275 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,400 the five or ten minute session, be a great place to start you 276 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,300 know, because we don't want to, we want to do it regularly. 277 00:15:00,300 --> 00:15:03,900 That would be ideal because it's going to overtime release a lot 278 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:07,700 of repressed emotions. So for me, you know, I started 279 00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:08,800 doing it. I don't know me. 280 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:13,000 Be two years ago, several times a week and not for any crazy 281 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,500 length of time. Although sometimes I would do 282 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:16,500 like an hour-long, right? But most the time, it was 283 00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:21,100 shorter ones. But, yeah, it's, I, I over time 284 00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:25,300 became a much less reactive person, and just notice, I was 285 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:28,600 living more like lightheartedly. So that's kind of the effect you 286 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,500 can have doing it over time. So if you're new to something, I 287 00:15:33,508 --> 00:15:36,500 think it's really great to start really small. 288 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:39,300 So like maybe doing a five or ten minute session but say Tell 289 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:41,700 yourself you can do it three times a week and then maybe 290 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:44,900 incorporate like an hour-long session once or twice a month, 291 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:47,300 but to go really deep. I don't know, I think it would 292 00:15:47,300 --> 00:15:49,000 be a cool thing. If you were just like looking at 293 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,500 a bunch of different options, just ask yourself, ask your 294 00:15:51,508 --> 00:15:53,800 intuition like which one feels good right now and then just 295 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,000 trust what comes up. Yeah, 100%. 296 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,300 I'm personally working on building the habit of it. 297 00:16:00,300 --> 00:16:02,400 So right now, sometimes it's five minutes, right? 298 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,900 When I wake up, if I remember, or right before bed, I've had a 299 00:16:04,900 --> 00:16:07,200 lot of nights where I'm like, shoot it's 10:00, but I'm going 300 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,400 to do it and it's just gonna be Five minutes but it counts and 301 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,700 we're keeping with the habit. I haven't you worked with 302 00:16:13,700 --> 00:16:16,600 anybody who starts to do this breathwork and that's why it's 303 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,200 so probably helpful to have a guide bringing you through this 304 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,400 as well. But worked with somebody who 305 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,900 struggles with it because I have experienced even myself but then 306 00:16:28,900 --> 00:16:33,600 other people say they tried to do it but it's hard like they 307 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,000 feel almost like it's hard because their lungs you know, or 308 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,000 or we don't Always know how to actually breathe deep because so 309 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 many people are breathing through that. 310 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,700 So have you experienced that with some of your clients or 311 00:16:46,700 --> 00:16:50,100 people you've worked with yeah, you know. 312 00:16:50,100 --> 00:16:53,600 I so we don't breathe properly. We're very hunched over and 313 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,200 that's part of the problem in our society were very hunched 314 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,800 over and so we're not really breathing with the full scope of 315 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,600 our diaphragm. And then we have a lot of stress 316 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,200 and anxiety, you know, when you're like really stressed and 317 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,300 can feel like you feel, you can't catch a breath and you 318 00:17:07,300 --> 00:17:09,599 can't take a deep breath. Something like that. 319 00:17:09,700 --> 00:17:12,300 I think those things really play a role, but I think the biggest 320 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:16,200 thing that would make it feel hard is resistance, you know, is 321 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,800 the mind, the Mind hates breath work, because it gets rid of the 322 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,400 mind. So it shuts off the default 323 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,900 mode. Network, part of the brain, 324 00:17:24,099 --> 00:17:27,200 which is the, which is the condition, monkey mind 325 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,100 Chatterbox over-thinker, the mine. 326 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,700 Doesn't want to be. Shut off, right? 327 00:17:31,700 --> 00:17:35,200 The ego wants its grip on you. So it will resist breath work. 328 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,800 Like a mother like it is going to talk you out of it all day 329 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,300 long. I used to resist breath work so 330 00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:43,400 hard. I think that's the real. 331 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:47,400 The real problem here is that it's not that you can't do the 332 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,300 breathing exercises. Although there are some people 333 00:17:49,300 --> 00:17:51,800 who maybe have like health conditions that could restrict 334 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,400 them or who just need to start off with a slower and calmer 335 00:17:54,700 --> 00:17:57,900 breathwork exercise like do it. Feels right with your body by 336 00:17:57,900 --> 00:18:02,300 all means but I wonder If you would let go of the thought and 337 00:18:02,300 --> 00:18:06,600 just really be in your body what would happen because I've also 338 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,900 heard of people having like they'll have like sudden back 339 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:11,800 pain when they're trying to do breathwork or meditate sudden 340 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,200 this or that and it's resistance. 341 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,700 That's all it is. You don't want to let yourself. 342 00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:18,800 You don't want to let go, your mind doesn't want to let go. 343 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,900 So, just taking that into consideration with all things in 344 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:23,100 life, right? What else? 345 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:25,300 We resisting, what other things are? 346 00:18:25,300 --> 00:18:28,300 We coming up with ways? That can't work, right? 347 00:18:28,300 --> 00:18:32,700 So yeah, I think that's That's like a sneaky sneaky one I have 348 00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:36,200 noticed that so much when I tried to sit cross-legged on the 349 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,000 floor and keep my spine straight. 350 00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:43,000 My back is on fire, almost every time I try to do it and then the 351 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,300 longest breath work, I've done is 20 minutes and it had a lot 352 00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:52,600 of that fast-paced, like in out in out and I and my head felt 353 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,200 like I was doing burpees at the gym and I wanted to stop, I 354 00:18:56,208 --> 00:19:00,100 wanted to quit so badly. It amazed. 355 00:19:00,300 --> 00:19:02,900 See how similar that was. It felt like I was resisting 356 00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:07,000 physical exercise that I absolutely hated, but I was just 357 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,000 breathing. Yeah, we resist so many things 358 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,500 that are so good for us. I know we've talked about it on 359 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:16,600 this podcast and other episodes, but what we've noticed and I'm 360 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,600 sure you can relate is the things you resist. 361 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,500 The most are the things that are best for you or the or it's 362 00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:24,500 going to be the next step that you have to take to get to where 363 00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:26,600 you're meant to be and it's always when you reach that high 364 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,500 resistance but you need to keep going and that's just all. 365 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:31,700 I kept telling myself. Self in my head is like this is 366 00:19:31,700 --> 00:19:33,800 a 20-minute thing you can get through it. 367 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,200 It's not long, keep breathing, it's so true. 368 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,600 We resist we need the most, it's absolutely true. 369 00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:44,000 Yeah, I've been experiencing that a lot lately, I've been 370 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,900 kind of in kind of a funk, the last few days. 371 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,800 And there's a few other things that are have been affecting at 372 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,500 that are kind of outside of myself. 373 00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:57,700 So only I can really control how I react to those things but I am 374 00:19:57,700 --> 00:20:00,000 in command of that and it's so funny. 375 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,700 How I've noticed this pattern Within Myself, I will, even 376 00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:07,500 though I have all of these tools sometimes it's like, I don't 377 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:11,800 know exactly what it is but it's that resistance to even using 378 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,500 the tools to get out of the funk. 379 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,700 And then I get to the point where I'm like, okay, F, this 380 00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:21,800 Carly like you're done pitying yourself like and then I would 381 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,700 get there, but I think that's the key. 382 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,600 I've noticed that this happens to me so much more when I'm not 383 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,200 being as consistent with my practices, with the breath work, 384 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,000 or the yoga, or the meditation. And because when I'm consistent 385 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,700 with that, I don't get into those funks that often and, you 386 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:45,100 know, life gets busy and that's just how it is. 387 00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:47,300 And so, for example, the last couple of Weeks, I've been 388 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:49,100 really busy with things that have been. 389 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,300 I've been allowing to take my concentration away from my 390 00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:57,600 personal practices and oh my God, I feel it. 391 00:20:57,900 --> 00:21:01,400 I feel like that almost relates to him the same way if I, if I 392 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,800 stop my daily, like, meditation breathwork yoga and I kind of 393 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,500 fall off like I do cause slip into funks, and then you'd like 394 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:11,200 snap out of it, but I think it kind of relates to the thing 395 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,000 with like with like being attached to the guard drama. 396 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,600 It's like there's almost this satisfaction. 397 00:21:16,900 --> 00:21:21,300 Of being in a funk or like, I don't even know how to explain 398 00:21:21,300 --> 00:21:22,600 it. But I've been there so many 399 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,800 times. I'm sure you guys have to. 400 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,000 It's like, we almost want a Pity ourselves because my mind was 401 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,600 our mind loves a good pity party. 402 00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:34,500 And so it wants to stay there. We talked about this Alexis with 403 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:38,400 them, even school. We were in the same major 404 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,600 actually in college, and I remember didn't last very long. 405 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,500 It didn't get me quite to the end of our four-year degree, but 406 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:47,100 for the first couple years, Years. 407 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,800 I had this like, weird satisfaction about being 408 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,700 miserable like about like having those late Studio nights, but 409 00:21:54,700 --> 00:21:58,000 like, oh, I love it because I'm doing this and I'm working so 410 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,800 hard and I'm not getting any sleep. 411 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,500 And so I'm feel horrible. But like, also look at what I'm 412 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:05,800 doing, it's just such a weird thing and I'm, I was just going 413 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,200 to say that fits in with with society and the people you 414 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,700 surround yourself with all of our classmates were complaining. 415 00:22:10,700 --> 00:22:13,000 A lot of our family and friends complain. 416 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,500 And so, if you're also in that funk then you're a part of the 417 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:20,400 collective. Is complaining and like down and 418 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,600 out and being the one. That's not as actually 419 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,200 separating herself from the group. 420 00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:29,400 So I feel like there's part of our mind that feels comfortable 421 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,700 in that because it's like, oh, I can, I can commiserate with 422 00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:35,600 these people rather than being like, hey, I I have breath work. 423 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,100 I've meditation, I can get out of this. 424 00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:40,000 I have all the tools. And then I think there's also 425 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,600 something to be said of having all the tools and then not 426 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,100 accessing them. Because they're always there, 427 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:48,100 it's like, oh well, I know. No, I know that I have it. 428 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:51,800 I can access it anytime but not today I'll do it tomorrow 429 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,800 because it's there but I'm not going to do it now. 430 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,100 Yeah that reminds me of like how I was like I when I used to work 431 00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:01,900 in corporate I was like super in the masculine hustle. 432 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,000 I mean hardcore, like working, just first person, the office 433 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,700 last person to leave every single day, you know, barely 434 00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:13,000 sleeping because I was just had to climb the corporate ladder as 435 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,300 fast as I could and in competition with everyone and 436 00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:19,900 Although it was it, I realized I felt like shit. 437 00:23:19,900 --> 00:23:22,800 Like I had tons of anxiety and stuff, but Anna wasn't taking 438 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,000 care of myself, but there was like the satisfaction of like 439 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,400 the ego part of it and and yeah, like you were saying Alexis, 440 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,400 it's like whatever you surround yourself with you become. 441 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,300 So everyone around you something about the same things. 442 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:37,800 Everyone around, you is doing the same Rat, Race. 443 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,200 Hustle thing as everyone around. You is in their victim mindset, 444 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,800 like your, there's going to be a part of you that even wants it 445 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:50,100 more to fit in. 100%. We are strange creatures. 446 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,700 I actually it was on your Instagram right before this and 447 00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:56,500 saw a post that you had pinned and I really want to read it 448 00:23:56,500 --> 00:24:00,300 because Carly and I both thought it was so beautiful and I think 449 00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:03,400 it goes into what you mentioned early about earlier about 450 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,500 present moment magic and slow living. 451 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,000 And this is what you wrote. We've been sold a lie, we don't 452 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,200 need more. We actually need less less 453 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,100 pressure to have the perfect body, the perfect house the 454 00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:19,900 perfect Anka, count less stress from buying things, we truly 455 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:23,900 can't afford less trying to impress others with our success 456 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,700 less filters, less makeup less lip injections and more of only 457 00:24:28,700 --> 00:24:32,500 one thing love. We loved that. 458 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,000 Yeah, that was beautiful. And so, I would love for you to 459 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,300 touch on that present moment magic. 460 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:40,400 And that's such an interesting way to say it. 461 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,300 So maybe where you came up with that phrase and how present 462 00:24:43,300 --> 00:24:45,600 moment magic. It has affected your life. 463 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,700 Yeah, thank you so much. So, when I was writing, my book 464 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:51,500 confessions of an on cage soul that was one of the titles, I 465 00:24:51,508 --> 00:24:53,600 almost used was present moment magic. 466 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,300 And that was like, kind of in a brainstorming session of what I 467 00:24:57,308 --> 00:25:00,100 really wanted to to bring in with the book. 468 00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:02,600 And we're Times what it was becoming more of a memoir and 469 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,200 less than Memoir and it couldn't decide how much I to share and 470 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,800 family things and whatever. So, yeah, I think the present 471 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,600 moment is the most important thing we can possibly focus on I 472 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,400 think, being present is everything because otherwise, 473 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,300 we're caught up like, in, like, in the the words you just read 474 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:23,300 like we're caught up in this rat race of needing more wanting 475 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:26,900 more. If I only had this next thing 476 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:29,900 then I'll be happy, right? We're always caught up in that 477 00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:33,300 next thing. And that never satisfies us 478 00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:35,500 because there's always a next thing. 479 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,900 And so until we until we break that cycle, and really bring 480 00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:43,000 ourselves into the present moment on a daily basis, feeling 481 00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:47,600 feeling the emotions of the present, the sensuality feeling, 482 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,400 it all, with all of our senses, the taste of the present, the 483 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,800 smell of the present moment, the textures on our body, just like 484 00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:58,800 the whatever's happening in nature in the present until we 485 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,800 do that on a daily basis were constantly. 486 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:04,200 Caught up in, what's next? And we're constantly projecting 487 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,900 our happiness down the road into the future. 488 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,000 So I think that us coming into the present is the most 489 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,900 important thing we can do. It's us letting go of the Mind, 490 00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:16,400 Is Us letting go of the overthinking and the incessant 491 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,700 worrying that just drives us crazy. 492 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,000 And it's, you know, breath work is a huge part of it for me and 493 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,100 helping me stay present meditation yoga journaling. 494 00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:31,900 So many different tools but it's the joy that we So desperately 495 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:36,400 seek is already within us. It's already here as long as we 496 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,500 just stopped. Attaching ourselves to the 497 00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:40,400 Future. Amen. 498 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,600 Yes. Because when we project into the 499 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,200 future that you were going to get this thing that we so 500 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,900 desperately want, it's always about a feeling right? 501 00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:51,900 And it's all about that, it's about that emotion that you're 502 00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:54,900 attaching to the Future. Well, if you know what emotion 503 00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:57,100 you're looking for in the future, you've obviously felt it 504 00:26:57,100 --> 00:26:59,900 before and you have that emotion in that energy inside of you to 505 00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:02,900 experience it now. Now, and so that's the whole 506 00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:06,600 point, what people talk about in manifestation is okay, there's 507 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,900 that thing in the future you want, how are you going to feel 508 00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:11,400 when you have it and feel it now instead? 509 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,900 And so that's so important to recognize that you have the 510 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:17,600 ability to feel that now in the present moment. 511 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,500 Yeah, it's something we have to remind ourselves of over and 512 00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:25,400 over and over and over because Society is selling us on the LIE 513 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,300 that we need more. So we have to remember, like, 514 00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:30,700 okay, why do I want that vacation? 515 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Like feel what I'm there. And like a vacation is not bad, 516 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,400 right? None of the things are bad. 517 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,600 House isn't bad. Makeups. 518 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,200 Not that these things aren't bad. 519 00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:42,400 It's us becoming I can't be happy unless this exact thing is 520 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,500 in my life and more and more and more and larger quantities all 521 00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:47,900 the time, right? But it's like, how would I feel 522 00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:53,100 if I had that home that they keishon, that purse that partner 523 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,100 like what what am I really looking for? 524 00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:59,400 And it's like it's hard to remember that we're really 525 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,700 looking for a Feeling. This is a bit of a personal 526 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,400 story on that, but last year I cut back on how much makeup I 527 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,000 was wearing because I realized that I would walk by the mirror 528 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,400 with no makeup on and avoid looking at myself. 529 00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:19,000 And I realized that I wanted the makeup to make myself feel, 530 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,400 beautiful and feel happy, and be able to be on camera and on 531 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,900 screen and do all the things. And I have a much better 532 00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:29,900 relationship with it now because I detach from the idea that the 533 00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:32,400 makeup was giving me Any of that validation. 534 00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:36,200 And now I find myself doing it with other products. 535 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,500 Like, I went shopping the other day and bought a jacket and it 536 00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:43,100 wasn't with the energy of I'm going to feel beautiful in this 537 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,300 in this jacket. Or this jacket is going to give 538 00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,400 me happiness because it's going to complete my wardrobe or 539 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,100 whatever other stories I used to tell my mind. 540 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,800 It was more of this seems fun and I am my own little doll in 541 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,800 this lifetime. I get to dress up and I am happy 542 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,500 with my closet now, and I will be happy with or without this 543 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:02,200 Jack. Ticket and with her without 544 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,500 makeup. And I think it's so important to 545 00:29:04,508 --> 00:29:07,100 get to that point. Where with or without this 546 00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:09,200 thing, I am. Okay? 547 00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:12,300 And I'm fine and really recognizing that. 548 00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:17,100 I feel like it's an example of those things become tools for 549 00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:20,800 your expression, instead of your expression relying on those 550 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:26,000 outside things. Yes, I like that because I feel 551 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,300 like we've all experienced this. Like, we're all taught this 552 00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:30,700 growing up. It's why? 553 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,100 World. I feel like the deepest thing of 554 00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:36,300 spirituality, like, what spirituality really is, is 555 00:29:36,308 --> 00:29:41,100 coming into this knowing that, like, this, this body is my 556 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:45,200 avatar for this lifetime and all these things aren't that are 557 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,300 happening in my reality are real, but they're also an 558 00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:52,300 illusion and my happiness is not dependent on any of them, and I 559 00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:54,100 can't control things going a certain way. 560 00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:59,900 So, as long as I stay in my body, and in my soul and remind 561 00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:02,300 myself that like, Like I've already arrived, I have 562 00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:06,300 everything I need then I don't have to think these things 563 00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:08,600 outside of me are going to change my internal State because 564 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,400 they really don't. Hmm. 565 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,200 And they're like bonuses to experience. 566 00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:17,600 Let's play with them all and enjoy them all. 567 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,500 It's like, what's that saying is like be in the world but not of 568 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:22,100 it. Yes, I love that. 569 00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:25,600 So you were saying how you were in corporate world and like 570 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,500 climbing the ladder and probably had very specific Lifestyles and 571 00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:34,400 goals and everything. obviously you have very much transition 572 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:40,200 from that and so the question is around the idea of transition 573 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,000 and how that was for you because I feel there are more and more 574 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,100 and more and more people going through these transitions or 575 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,500 like even been wanting to transition their life for a 576 00:30:52,508 --> 00:30:57,800 couple years or more now, but it's freaking scary, it's scary 577 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,100 to change and uproot your life and and have those Emotions come 578 00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:04,700 up of being like, wait, this is not what I want anymore. 579 00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:08,600 So how was that for you challenges positives? 580 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:12,200 Well, at that time, it was about two and a half years ago when I 581 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,600 was leaving corporate. But for the couple years before 582 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,200 that I was building my business, you know, I was what I was 583 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,200 trying to make a mini business like a full-time income, right? 584 00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:27,100 And I just was at a point where In my healing journey. 585 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,200 I still had a lot of ego work to do, which I still do, right. 586 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,400 I'm not like saying like now I'm totally healed and enlightened. 587 00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:37,900 But, at this point, I haven't decided a lot more work to do 588 00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:41,100 that to where I am now. And so, I was very, very, very 589 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:44,400 attached to exactly what I'm talking about. 590 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,300 I removed this in my book because the moment when I quit 591 00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:51,000 my job you know I had desperately wanted it for so 592 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,200 long. It was all I thought about all I 593 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,900 cared about and care about anything else. 594 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,400 I thought Once I quit my job and worked myself, I'd be happy. 595 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,000 No matter what and I would feel different, I would feel like the 596 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,400 people that I was idolizing on the internet who looked so 597 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,600 successful. I thought I would feel like them 598 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,700 all of the sudden and that just didn't happen right? 599 00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:13,900 That projecting the feeling on to the thing. 600 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,500 It pops up all the time happened multiple times in my life I've 601 00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:23,300 been to that point but that was when the lesson finally like I 602 00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:27,400 was like oh oh okay. Okay, yeah, that's right. 603 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,800 Like things happening outside of me aren't really Gonna Change. 604 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,700 I don't not going to feel like a different person, right? 605 00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:37,100 I'm still going to feel like me and then my mind's going to come 606 00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:40,000 up with next problem that needs to be solved, the next thing 607 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,500 that needs to happen for me to be happy. 608 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,400 So it was a huge lesson are two huge wake-up call there but it 609 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,900 was a big transition. I saved up money for a long time 610 00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:55,500 and I to be honest I expected my business to stay at the level of 611 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,400 Was forever. We're go up, like, definitely go 612 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,800 up. But I was under the impression 613 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,200 that like that was, those are the only possibilities. 614 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,100 It would be study or it would go up, not never that it would go 615 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,900 down or be inconsistent, although like I have saved up 616 00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:16,100 money for those moments, but yeah, I found that I was 617 00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:19,500 becoming really, really attached to the results. 618 00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:22,300 The outcomes, the specific outcomes. 619 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,500 So it was really hard to kind of separate myself from Um that and 620 00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:31,300 you know, building a personal brand it's like you, it's you. 621 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,400 So it's a lot of rejection that feels really, really personal. 622 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,300 So there was a biggest growth during in my life to learn to 623 00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:41,900 let go of those things and surrender the outcomes and be 624 00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:43,700 okay with the different directions. 625 00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:49,000 I business would take and that Journey really led me to where I 626 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,800 am now and with writing my book and all the surrender stuff and 627 00:33:51,808 --> 00:33:53,700 all the present moment stuff because it was like the biggest 628 00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:56,800 journey I ever had and letting do Well, I relate to this so 629 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,200 much. I not going to go into it but 630 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,700 Alexis and I have been on kind of a parallel journey and I've 631 00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:09,199 kind of taken a slight pause on that because I realized kind of 632 00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,600 the same thing. Like I was kind of forcing these 633 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,000 outcomes on to myself and attaching a lot to those things. 634 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,300 And it's funny because I was just telling a friend this 635 00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:25,400 yesterday, A lot of my things I would share. 636 00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:29,500 Sharing last year, before I took my little paws that you've been 637 00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:31,800 helping me so much like they like pass. 638 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,199 Carly is helping present Carly with like future Carly knowledge 639 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:39,400 and I'm like, holy crap. This is wild, but it's beautiful 640 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,600 because it's all for me. Been about, like really finding 641 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,300 that Foundation Within Myself And it letting myself Express, 642 00:34:47,699 --> 00:34:51,400 whatever comes out and not worrying so much about what it 643 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,500 needs to look like. And it's a kind of, I don't I 644 00:34:55,507 --> 00:34:58,300 want to say battle because that sounds dramatic, but it kind of 645 00:34:58,300 --> 00:35:02,400 is, it's a battle between like being totally at peace and 646 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,000 letting go and just trusting the unfoldment of everything. 647 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,300 And then, you know, when you're shown something on social media, 648 00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:14,100 or someone asks, you a question or you see something on TV or 649 00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:17,000 something? Then it's like all those doubts 650 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,800 and stuff come back. But and I don't know, I don't 651 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,700 think. Those will ever fully go away 652 00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:28,500 for anybody because that's just the nature of the mind. 653 00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:31,700 But like to get to a point where you have that Foundation to just 654 00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:34,500 feel that wave come through and just be like, no, okay, I'm 655 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:36,800 good. It just pass on through. 656 00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:41,400 So I still don't know what I'm really doing, but my only goal 657 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,700 is to be myself and express myself and we're gonna see where 658 00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:48,900 it goes. Yeah, it's definitely like I 659 00:35:48,908 --> 00:35:51,800 feel like when I run my business had the pressure Sure. 660 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,200 I like I had a lot of pressure on it for a long time and that 661 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:02,300 made me, it took away from like the authentic expression and 662 00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:04,900 just the fun of it and lightness of it. 663 00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:07,100 But then to let go of that pressure. 664 00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:09,200 It's like you really gotta like sink into that trust. 665 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,200 You know, this has been such a theme lately. 666 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,500 In our conversations. I know I'm laughing over here 667 00:36:16,508 --> 00:36:24,300 because I am slowly like Lincoln from just the last year of 668 00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:28,400 discovering coaching in and then like doing coaching training and 669 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,500 then I had a business coach. And then I was in everybody, 670 00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:33,400 else's containers and learning, and learning, and growing so 671 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,000 much from other people. And then being on social media 672 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,700 and following other other accounts, and how they do 673 00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:42,000 business. And I just kept feeling like I 674 00:36:42,008 --> 00:36:46,500 was trying to Niche down number one and then I decided not to do 675 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:49,500 that, but even though I consciously said, no, don't nice 676 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:50,800 down. My subconscious was still 677 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,300 running like But nobody's gonna understand what you're doing. 678 00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:56,400 You need to be more specific. Like who are you selling to? 679 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,900 What's the product? What's your purpose? 680 00:36:57,900 --> 00:37:00,200 And it was just a low hum Underneath It. 681 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,500 All that I didn't realize was still there and even just 682 00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:07,300 reflecting yesterday it popped up again and I'm like I've been 683 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,000 diluting myself to make my page more understandable and 684 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,000 digestible for people that I feel like I should be attracting 685 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,200 for whatever reason. When in reality when the more 686 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,900 yourself you are you're going to Track the people that are meant 687 00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:26,200 to work with you and so it's just so funny how that creeps 688 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,800 into your mind and you mentioned in the form that we sent to you 689 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,300 before about social media addiction. 690 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,100 And I'm so curious to hear what your experience has been with 691 00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:41,800 that from following other practitioners to building your 692 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,000 business and this whole journey and how social media has played 693 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,200 into it for you. Yeah, so I feel like before I 694 00:37:50,207 --> 00:37:52,600 have my business, I definitely was on social media a lot, you 695 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,800 know. But it was different like it 696 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,200 wasn't. I mean, I also was much less 697 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,000 aware, so maybe I wasn't quite as aware of, of the picking up 698 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,900 my phone unconsciously and looking at it in any spare 699 00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:08,400 moment that I had, but as I became more into the present 700 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,500 moment, I started to realize that social media was really 701 00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:15,800 pulling me away from the here. And now and that in any quiet, 702 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,700 pause, that would have my A, I would unconsciously grab that 703 00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:23,700 phone and go to social media and do a ton of comparison, right? 704 00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:26,600 And feel like what could I put what do I need to post right now 705 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,100 and like and just a lot of that stuff. 706 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:32,800 And so a little over a year ago I decided to put some boundaries 707 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,900 in that been so helpful. So I stopped going on my 708 00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:38,600 Instagram like suck my own social media past, five PM, like 709 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,900 evenings are just like a no first, our 2:00 in the morning 710 00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:46,300 are no and most weekends I take off as well and it's just been 711 00:38:46,300 --> 00:38:50,700 so so helpful to like, Have those it's just like takes away 712 00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:53,900 that addiction, like it's but I definitely noticed that during 713 00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:56,700 the day I still have like a major tendency to want to check 714 00:38:56,700 --> 00:39:01,900 it 500 times. So recently, I bought just a few 715 00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:05,400 weeks ago, I bought a locking box on Amazon with the timer. 716 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,100 So I like lock my phone in there for a few hours a day, so I can 717 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:13,000 get my work done. And this is really crazy. 718 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,400 The piece that you feel when you don't have your phone is so 719 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,100 wild. Old. 720 00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:22,000 And like the level of focus that you have and creativity and 721 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,600 inspiration and intuitive. Downloads, like for me at all 722 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,600 increases when I'm not like, always kind of having this like, 723 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,000 It's like this pull in my body to, like, constantly grab my 724 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,800 phone, so I'm always, like, working on ways to kind of 725 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,500 detach from that, but I definitely think in our society 726 00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:43,000 were, we're not allowing ourselves of any moments of 727 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,600 quiet anymore, and I think that's really damaging to all of 728 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,400 us. Mhm. 729 00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:53,200 Yesterday, this is reminds me of my, my dad was scrolling on his 730 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,800 phone and my mom was watching TV, and I decided to leave my 731 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,200 phone in my bedroom, just for a little while, because I was in a 732 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,800 tick tock, binge, and when that happens, I almost have to do 733 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,300 321. Throw my phone in order to tear 734 00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:07,900 myself away from it. It's ridiculous, but I was 735 00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:10,900 standing in the living room, just not looking at the TV, and 736 00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:12,900 I just started dancing, for no reason. 737 00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,500 And my parents looked at me, like, what is wrong with you? 738 00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:19,100 And I just said, I left my phone in my room and I have no idea 739 00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:22,400 what to do with myself. Isn't that just crazy? 740 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,700 Yes, but it's so relatable to everyone listening. 741 00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:32,700 One thing I can struggle with is the fact At that, I love what 742 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000 social media allows us to do today. 743 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,100 Like it's incredible but I do like I talked to Alexis and my 744 00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:43,500 business coach last year about this. 745 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,700 It also I get on it and it causes me so much anxiety as 746 00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:51,800 well, because I'm like, I haven't felt like this since 747 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,400 like middle school. So for years I've gotten on 748 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,000 social media and just all of a sudden been like, what am I 749 00:40:58,008 --> 00:40:59,800 doing? Like, what am I doing? 750 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,100 This is Real and so it almost like I get can get frustrated 751 00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:08,700 with myself for being on it and not like living life and so for 752 00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:12,000 me it's been a really interesting contradiction in 753 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,100 myself because I want to be doing something that allows me 754 00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:20,100 to kind of have this like freedom of my life and ability 755 00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:22,900 to move if we need to or like all of that. 756 00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:26,400 But I also have the other side of the spectrum that's like I 757 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,500 could probably be more than happy. 758 00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:34,000 Ever touching social media again, so frustrating sometimes. 759 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,000 Yeah, I feel the same way. Like, there is so much to gain 760 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,800 on there, in terms of, like, people have really inspired me. 761 00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:44,600 Like, there's so much information and I do think it's 762 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,300 information overload and bluebies better serve like 763 00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:49,200 reading books and stuff for sure. 764 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,200 But you do get like different perspectives. 765 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:57,200 If you follow people that you really you intentionally select 766 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,600 you know based on the way they're showing up and the 767 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,800 inspiration. And whatever can be so powerful. 768 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,900 And of course it like, yeah, it's like a great tool for 769 00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:08,500 business, you know, so I feel the same way, but yeah, I do 770 00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:10,600 wish I could like throw my phone out, the window and never see it 771 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,200 again, like, live in the moment all the time and because a big 772 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,700 thing we need to remember is like, we're also looking at, 773 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,000 we're looking at a highlight reel, it doesn't matter. 774 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,500 Like I've tried so hard to like be as real as possible and like 775 00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:27,000 I do believe I shall be an authentic and real way but I 776 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,800 can't do it fully. This is not possible like My 777 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,200 life can't just be every bad thing. 778 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,700 Isn't going to be on that, right? 779 00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:38,800 Like it's also not realistic to do your business. 780 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,600 So we have to remember, we're looking at a highlight reel. 781 00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:45,700 We're looking at curated pieces of people's lives that they've 782 00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:49,100 selected to show. We're looking at filters and, 783 00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:53,800 you know, good angles and good lighting and we have to remember 784 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,500 that like we're not looking really at reality. 785 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,500 That was one of the things that inspired us to even start this 786 00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:01,600 podcast. Because the same thing, you 787 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,200 know, we both have had this discussion since the beginning 788 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,700 of like being authentic and really sharing as much as we can 789 00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:11,100 about our lives. But yeah, the fact of the matter 790 00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:15,300 is, you can't do that on social media and like, you could. 791 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,100 But also, I mean, for Alexis, and I, we also really love 792 00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:24,800 Aesthetics and we really love making things pretty then, and, 793 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,500 you know, life isn't pretty all the time. 794 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,100 And so I'd love like the balance of you have. 795 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,000 I guess it's last. You've definitely experienced 796 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,100 this. It's just when it's more that 797 00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:39,100 raw uncut footage of life and you feel, you really get to know 798 00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:44,100 the people who are speaking, and there's a place for that, and we 799 00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:45,800 can obviously do more of that on social media. 800 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,700 But I, yeah, I completely agree. It's, it's not, it's not real 801 00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:53,500 there. There are two things you said, 802 00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:56,200 or I had two thoughts pop up with something you said, but 803 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,500 following people, intentionally is so important and I I just 804 00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:02,600 really want to highlight that because that was one of the 805 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,300 first steps that I took three years ago on my Instagram. 806 00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:11,700 I just realized that I was going on social media scrolling and 807 00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:15,700 leaving with an icky feeling. And I noticed that the people I 808 00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:19,400 would scroll past, I was judging them for whatever reason, did 809 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,000 that, didn't matter if it was a celebrity or influencer someone 810 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,900 from my hometown, there were just certain accounts that 811 00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:28,600 triggered me from what, for whatever reason and I decided 812 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,100 enough is enough. I'm going to Follow or mute them 813 00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:34,600 if there's somebody that I know personally and it's nothing 814 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,600 against the people ever, it's always a reflection of cell and 815 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,400 so I did work on that these past couple years I'm like what was 816 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,700 it that triggered but re curating it to people that 817 00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:48,200 inspire me that are creative that are sharing cool ideas and 818 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,500 so that's what almost hooks me even more going on socials, 819 00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:53,600 because I'm excited to see what these people are sharing. 820 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,900 They feel like friends, I love their ideas and perspectives, 821 00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:00,000 and so I have positive feelings when I go on social media and 822 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,300 Said of negative ones now, which is beneficial, but also still 823 00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:05,300 need to tear myself away from it. 824 00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:07,100 Yeah. And it's just like a couple 825 00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:08,700 other things we talked about today. 826 00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:11,700 It's like, it's like we have to. Just remember, we have just 827 00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:15,400 remember that these people's lives are probably not quite as 828 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,100 glamorous as it looks online and because aesthetically pleasing 829 00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:24,200 content is more fun to create and it's her forms way better 830 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,300 like, you know what I mean? Like, where we just have to 831 00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:29,000 remind ourselves. That, like, those people have 832 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,000 struggles? They aren't sure. 833 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,400 Ring and like remember when our mind was in 2000, like why is my 834 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,000 life like this? I wish my life was like that. 835 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,700 It's like just coming into what we can be grateful for in here. 836 00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:45,200 Now, you know, and remembering that like so much of the outer 837 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,300 World stuff, it's just it's not going to change our Interstate 838 00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:51,600 the way we think it is you just keep remembering that I feel 839 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,500 like mmm. And then there are a lot of 840 00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:57,900 accounts that I think are doing the best that they can to be 841 00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:00,800 real. I think that is Be real. 842 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,500 I think that's getting to be more mainstream to use less 843 00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:07,400 filters and to talk more candidly and I love it. 844 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:13,500 And sometimes I come across the videos of crying and things like 845 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:16,200 that and there's something so funny to me about it because I 846 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,300 did it. I've done it one time where I 847 00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:20,500 was having a tough time and I just wanted to document it for 848 00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:23,600 myself to come back to a week from now, because I knew those 849 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,500 emotions would pass, but there's something about crying and then 850 00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:29,700 whipping out your video, like your phone and recording 851 00:46:29,700 --> 00:46:32,000 yourself. Crying in the moment that also 852 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,800 feels so weird to me and I don't naturally do that. 853 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,900 And so I don't even know how to feel about those quote, real 854 00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:44,600 videos either. It's all very Twisted in my 855 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,600 head. Yeah, and then there's also like 856 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,600 the side of it where when people are creating content that's like 857 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,500 relatability content that's like complaining essentially about 858 00:46:56,500 --> 00:47:01,900 things that are relatable. And it's like how it's like, How 859 00:47:02,300 --> 00:47:04,300 much of that is good, right? Like, yes. 860 00:47:04,300 --> 00:47:06,700 We want to feel like we're not alone in our things and that can 861 00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:09,500 be helpful, but also like we don't want to, why would we 862 00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:13,300 focus on those things, right? While we focus on that aspect of 863 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,300 like marriage or relationships? Like, you know, you could focus 864 00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:19,600 on the bad or the good, you know, and your perspective is 865 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,800 going to dictate your life. So how much of that type of 866 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,200 content should we really be looking at? 867 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:29,200 It's just a whole mind. Fuck yeah, finding a balance for 868 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,500 yourself. The really the only answer I 869 00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:35,700 think it's like what we've discussed before Carly about 870 00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:38,100 pain points and pain Point marketing. 871 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,200 And that's what most marketing is. 872 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,100 Even for people here that are not on taste that are not on 873 00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:46,500 social media. Whenever you watch an ad and it 874 00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:49,600 pops up on TV, or on YouTube and it says, you have these 875 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,400 problems, we will solve it with this product. 876 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,200 That's pain, Point marketing. They're making you aware of and 877 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,000 think of all the bad things that are happening in your life. 878 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,400 And this thing is going to solve it and I really don't Vibe with 879 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,600 that and Leah I would love for your thoughts on that because in 880 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,500 the coaching world there's like a there's a whole spectrum of 881 00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:12,900 different types of marketing and that I'm sure you are familiar 882 00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:16,500 with, but painful Point marketing just doesn't Vibe with 883 00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:17,800 me like, I want to empower people. 884 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,000 And like you said, why would you focus on the bad when you're 885 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,400 trying to help people feel good? Mmm. 886 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,700 So, I think there's a lot of toxic things that come directly 887 00:48:27,700 --> 00:48:30,000 from the corporate and the corporate sauce. 888 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,300 We bad right? But there is a toxic corporate 889 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:38,200 world where greed is so hugely. The company I used to work for 890 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,100 was like 1.6 billion dollar company at the time it was run 891 00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:43,300 by a board of directors you know. 892 00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:46,700 So everything was about year-over-year Prophet had to go 893 00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:51,000 up every single year which is not always sustainable and 894 00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:55,100 necessary in any way and just it's very destructive. 895 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,100 That's when we see you know company like Tyson you know 896 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,100 several decades. Ago, whenever they invented 897 00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:04,400 factory, farming, just to get a squeeze another dollar, right? 898 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,600 It's like what the fuck. So, there's a lot of this. 899 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:12,100 Like, really toxic orbit, money-making mindset, that's 900 00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:17,200 destroying the planet and our lives and and causing inflation. 901 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,300 All these things that people brought into the coaching world, 902 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,400 you know, because that's the society that we're in. 903 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,700 So the coaching World tends to have a lot of that, and a lot of 904 00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:29,900 business coaches. I mean, I used to be a business 905 00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:31,600 coach. Who taught pain Point marketing 906 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,000 for real. So and I was coming from the 907 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,600 corporate look. I was a sales manager. 908 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,300 So like it really fit with what I had done before. 909 00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:42,200 I was teaching sales, I was teaching GoGo whatever a lot of 910 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,700 this like, toxic stuff is in the coaching industry, and I think 911 00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:49,700 people are really starting to pull back from it. 912 00:49:49,700 --> 00:49:51,700 I think people are really starting to see it for what it 913 00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:56,800 is and notice that it's really kind of based on Greed and it's 914 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,900 really not based on helping people, and it's based on like 915 00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:03,600 Sphere or, you know, inspiring people through fear. 916 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,000 I think I think fear is what creates it to it's this fear 917 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,300 that if I don't have enough, if I don't have enough clients then 918 00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:12,400 what will happen if I don't have this or daughter's gonna say 919 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,300 greed is like another word to say lack mentality, like 920 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,300 thinking that if I don't have more than I don't have anything, 921 00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:21,400 there's nothing. I'm not someone who believes 922 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,200 money is wrong. Obviously, money is a beautiful 923 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,600 resource that helps us but like, where does it end like do we 924 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,000 need to have a multimillion-dollar Empire? 925 00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:34,800 To feel worthy, do we even is that even really what we want. 926 00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:42,800 So that has become for me such and it in instant turn off 927 00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:47,800 because there's so many coaches who are still marketing that as 928 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,200 something that they are that they have. 929 00:50:50,300 --> 00:50:53,600 So, I should coach you because I run a multimillion-dollar 930 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,500 company or I just reached, you know, this Milestone and it 931 00:50:58,500 --> 00:50:59,900 worked is still working for them. 932 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,200 M, so great. Like obviously I love, I love 933 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,900 the saying, something about how you know, there's someone for 934 00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:09,900 everybody and as long as they're still there, then that means 935 00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:13,200 people are benefiting from them. And there's they're having this 936 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:18,200 even exchange but it is. It's become such and kind of 937 00:51:18,207 --> 00:51:21,000 from our personal experiences over the last year. 938 00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:22,900 It's become such a turn-off for me. 939 00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:26,700 I see and I'm like I don't give a flying fuck like how are you 940 00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:29,700 going to help other people Express themselves in? 941 00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:35,800 Like beautiful holistic way. Like, yeah, it's like the ads 942 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,700 you see, or it's like, I help coaches. 943 00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:41,800 I have new coaches, make six figures in their first three 944 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,100 months. It's like, I've enrolled in 945 00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:46,300 those programs. I've hired coaches that were 946 00:51:46,300 --> 00:51:48,300 saying, both have to. Yeah. 947 00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:53,800 And like, it's just not realistic to think that that's a 948 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,100 sustainable thing. And then when you have so much 949 00:51:57,100 --> 00:52:00,200 emphasis on that, like getting to the 10K months, whatever. /, 950 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,800 that's when things start to become unethical because you 951 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,800 resort to sales tactics like the pain Point marketing because 952 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,800 you're trying to push for these results such as are not 953 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,300 realistic. Well, yeah, and for me and I 954 00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:16,900 think Alexis you can say the same thing and Leo probably you 955 00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:19,100 can as well. I don't want to say that people 956 00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:22,400 are doing a wrong thing because like I just said, there's 957 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,900 obviously a need for this still and we're cycling out of old 958 00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:30,800 ways of being. But for me, Going through that 959 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,800 and working with a business coach who has a person, I love 960 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,500 she, she was so sweet and everything but that was very 961 00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:42,100 much her tactic and it just like sucked. 962 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,600 All the life and creativity and inspiration and excitement out 963 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,900 of me because I realized do that, which again happened 964 00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:53,200 exactly how it should have because I would not have come to 965 00:52:53,207 --> 00:52:57,600 this realization that for me, obviously, I desired that 966 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,500 abundance in that way, but I I don't need it. 967 00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:04,400 Like, that's not my I mean like we needed to survive in that 968 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,500 sense, but that's not my driver Factor. 969 00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:11,000 Yes, my driver. It's actually helping people and 970 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,800 expressing my own self and helping other people do the 971 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,100 same. And that was a huge beautiful 972 00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:21,400 lesson that I learned through going through this work with 973 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,800 this woman, who was teaching me that and I don't know. 974 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,100 Everything happens for a reason. Basically is what I'm trying to 975 00:53:27,107 --> 00:53:29,900 say. Yeah, we've talked about About 976 00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:35,800 the, the type of feeling we want to give people and there is 977 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,500 something I heard about. If you picture a ladder, there's 978 00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:42,400 the pain Point marketing. That's I need to show you that 979 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,800 you're at the bottom of the ladder and I'm at the top and 980 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,200 I'm helping you get to where I am because it's way better up 981 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:53,300 here or there's the hey, your life is perfectly fine and it's 982 00:53:53,300 --> 00:53:56,200 in, you're doing amazing but it can be even better. 983 00:53:56,300 --> 00:54:00,200 Like you are fully self-sustaining, you Don't need 984 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,700 this. Like, I've followed a couple 985 00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:07,400 coaches who really focus on coaching as kind of a luxury 986 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,300 item, like it's a thing that you get to splurge on and it gets to 987 00:54:10,300 --> 00:54:13,500 make you feel good and it gets to put women in your corner to 988 00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:16,500 help build you up. And it's not saying you're in 989 00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:19,100 the pit and I'm pulling you out to rescue you. 990 00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:23,500 It's hey, you're doing amazing. Let's Elevate together and I 991 00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:25,700 really Vibe with that energy so much more. 992 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,800 And I'm not sure if you've experienced can't Boehner like 993 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,000 that? Or a comparison, Leah of like, 994 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,300 those different things, but I've seen that pop up to that 995 00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:36,900 different type of perspective on the marketing. 996 00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:40,800 Yeah, totally. Yeah, the last thing that I like 997 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,700 join was a mastermind where it was actually, like, pay what you 998 00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:46,600 can. And it was really, really 999 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,900 interesting in the whole like it was just this woman who had 1000 00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:54,000 previously done much different marketing as well, but was 1001 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,800 really shifting into this, like, hey, like I'm maybe it's really 1002 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,900 not affordable for urge. Or realistic people to spend ten 1003 00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:04,300 thousand dollars every few months for Cody. 1004 00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:08,300 Like let me actually hope people and like, a really felt like it 1005 00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:11,600 came from that genuine place and she still made money and it was 1006 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,100 beautiful. And it's yeah. 1007 00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:15,000 We're so I think we're seeing a lot of that in the industry. 1008 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:20,500 People are realizing that there's a lot of really shitty 1009 00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:24,700 hustle e, corporate e, tactics being used in an industry that's 1010 00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:26,600 supposed to be about helping people. 1011 00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:31,000 And hopefully that's changing. Hmm. 1012 00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:33,600 Yeah, I love the Chia. We're changing it. 1013 00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:37,100 Yeah, we are the change makers. That's the point. 1014 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,100 I'm like we all came into this field to help people write like 1015 00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:44,900 not to make a million dollars because I love that. 1016 00:55:45,100 --> 00:55:47,200 I love it. You're exactly the type of 1017 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,500 people we want to have on this podcast. 1018 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,700 This is what we're here for and I'm so grateful. 1019 00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:56,900 You reached out. I know we're Nearing. 1020 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,100 An hour. So I want to make sure that 1021 00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:02,900 there's time for you to tell us what you're up to, where we can 1022 00:56:02,900 --> 00:56:06,500 find you, how people can work with you and share. 1023 00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:08,900 All the good stuff that's happening on your end. 1024 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,900 Yeah, absolutely. So my podcast is bare naked 1025 00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:18,700 soul, my Instagram is leopardi and what else? 1026 00:56:18,900 --> 00:56:22,000 Yeah, pretty much my websites leopardi that cam just type my 1027 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,700 name in anywhere. You'll find something and we can 1028 00:56:24,700 --> 00:56:26,300 hang out. You can shoot you a DM with 1029 00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:29,300 questions about Work. Yeah. 1030 00:56:29,300 --> 00:56:32,500 Thank you guys so much for having me do this was such a fun 1031 00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:36,100 conversation and like we said before hand, we let our 1032 00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:38,800 conversations flow. So a little bit about breath 1033 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,100 work and for anyone listening that wants to know a lot more 1034 00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:44,500 about breathwork, please go see her podcast. 1035 00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:47,400 We will link all of her stuff in the show notes as always. 1036 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,100 And if you loved this episode, we'd love a rating and review 1037 00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:56,000 from you and feel free to reach out via DM, anytime we love to 1038 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,500 talk. If you can Get tell Carly and I 1039 00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:03,700 like to talk and but anyway we're so grateful for all of you 1040 00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:06,500 listening and gratefully out for popping on with us today. 1041 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,300 And we will be with you next week. 1042 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,500 Goodbye. I