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Thank you. 
Thank the Lord for these 

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wonderful servants of the Lord 
serving in the armed forces. 

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Something I didn't have to do. 
Fortunately I had a high lottery

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number, so I didn't have to go. 
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the numbers were picked, my best
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He said I'm going to join the 
Navy tomorrow. 

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And that's what he did. 
He had number six. 

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I think I had 234, so Lord knew 
I probably wouldn't have been 

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the best of soldiers. 
I was a hippie at the time, so I

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had other reasons. 
But I'm so grateful for the 

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freedom we have because of you 
guys serving as you have. 

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So before I get into today's 
message, I'd like Sam and 

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Miranda Morris to come up front 
for a SEC, please. 

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So we talked a lot about Turning
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continual theme in our ministry 
because we are at a turning 

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point in our lives. 
Personally, you go deeper with 

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Jesus. 
But Sam and Miranda, good to see

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you, buddy. 
Good to see you guys. 

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I've taken the the order from 
the Lord to give their lives 

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completely to ministry. 
That's what they're planning on 

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doing, like Cason Harrell. 
So this is the future of our 

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church, so you guys can be 
encouraged, even though you got 

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Gray haired guys. 
And Louis, he's Gray now too. 

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We'll be here for a while, 
however long Lord has us. 

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But we're smart enough to know 
we won't be here forever, right?

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And so we want you to know that 
the church will be in good 

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hands. 
These guys are pastoral interns,

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so I wanted Sam just to tell a 
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the call of God in his life 
years ago. 

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And when I met with him to talk 
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really encouraged because the 
Lord had already spoken to him 

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about this. 
What you share a little bit? 

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Yeah. 
Just press that button. 

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There. 
There we go there. 

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Thanks. 
You hear me? 

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OK, yeah, so Clark talked to me 
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bit out of the blue, sent me a 
text message asking him to speak

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about church leadership. 
And I thought, OK, so end up 

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talking to him about. 
I'll get a little bit of a back 

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story. 
So my wife and I, we got married

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eight years ago now, and we 
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I was originally from this area,
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Vincent, went to College of Penn
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been cracking for six months 
right before I got married that 

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I'm still actually working for 
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Lincaster area. 
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five years, right? 
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So the time we had out there was
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She was from Florida. 
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sporadic, One day, one week, 
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together, right? 
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spend a lot of quality time 
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just us together. 
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just being by ourselves, but we 
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better for us to grow with each 
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getting a little bit of Baxter 
Clark was talking about. 

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So when we were out there, we 
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I grew up in the Calvary Chapel.
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My parents probably test this 
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when I was at the Y. 
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Chapel, went through through 
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And then, you know, I went to 
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I was there for two years and I 
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for just for a few months and 
then we moved out there. 

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I was, we're looking for a new 
church, right. 

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So there's a couple of Calvary 
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We tried a couple of them. 
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was down next in area, Calvary 
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So the pastor there, I think he 
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was younger, Right, Right. 
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Chris Swanson. 
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connection that Cork actually 
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I was attending. 
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We could go on Wednesday night. 
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mornings with the so they had 
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They'd one at 8:30, I think 9:30
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We were attending the earliest 
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We had no kids yet. 
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It was, it was kind of nice, but
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Grace and we just felt the Lord 
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him. 
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school and I was thinking, I 
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time, right? 
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So I started taking Bible 
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year, right? 
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didn't end up taking them for a 
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I took maybe a year's worth. 
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church actually taught a Tuesday
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like a biblical class for people
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church leadership, leading 
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So actually still listening that
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He has it on their app, so I can
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So I spent a lot of time 
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going, you know, paying money to
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It was the same thing. 
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talk to them and ask him 
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there, Stephen Stauffer. 
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leading worship for Chester 
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as well. 
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with the group there. 
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felt the Lord calling me 
possibly in the pastoral 

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ministry. 
And I said, no, why me, right. 

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I think that's everyone's 
question when they get called 

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into something, you know, what's
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Why are you choosing me? 
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while. 
I said, OK, you know, I was 

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really interested, you know, I 
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I was getting this word and I 
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that. 
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like, oh, I need to go do a 
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I need to get my job and go here
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And I said, you know what, Lord,
if you want me to do something 

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like this, I'll abide. 
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what, 2223, right? 
I'll abide in your word. 

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And if you want me in something 
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because I'm not going to go out 
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something and go over, right? 
Because it has to be the Lord 

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calling you. 
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you're going to fail. 
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And you step into something, 
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It's any, any ministry, right? 
I know Brad and Janelle could 

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probably test you in the 
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weren't specifically called for 
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You won't be able to do it. 
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So I told the Lord that ten 
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years ago now about 7 years ago.
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couple weeks ago and, you know, 
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I'm thinking about it. 
OK, what's this going to be 

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about? 
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He's talking about it. 
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And Clark says, is any of this 
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And I'm like, I was like, man, I
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he wanted me to do something, he
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came and got me for it, right? 
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and do it. 
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Court came out and he texted me 
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day and he's he's asked me if I 
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a little bit. 
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something in my heart, you know,
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And it seems like right now it's
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So I'm happy to be here. 
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just, we're just here to serve, 
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I don't, I'm not one to put 
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I don't like being on the front 
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I'm done with pretty quiet 
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But yeah, we're just, we're here
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That exciting, huh? 
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Father God, we just thank you. 
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ministry family. 
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Florida. 
So a wonderful family. 

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And we have our bass player. 
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Is he down there in Florida now?
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Yeah. 
It won't be too long before he's

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going to be getting married to 
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It's exciting. 
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Spirit works and puts all this 
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So, Father, we just thank you 
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And Lord, you've called them for
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Lord, you, you come after us. 
We don't come after you. 

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You come after us first and 
teach us to follow you and and 

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you draw us to you. 
We pray, O God, your anointing, 

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your blessing, the power of your
Holy Spirit on this couple for 

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the days ahead. 
Give them insight and wisdom. 

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Let Sam sense more and more your
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We look forward to the day that 
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the congregation as long as 
along with Cason and we just are

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excited about the the new energy
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these younger guys. 
And we just thank you for their 

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willingness to be yield to you 
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And we pray these things in 
Jesus name, Amen. 

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God bless you guys. 
So exciting things, huh? 

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Exciting things here at Calvary 
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So we're in the first verse of 
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spiritual giftings. 
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groundwork on this chapter 
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it. 
There's a lot of history behind 

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my own understanding of 
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of Calvary Chapel and not 
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When I first got saved, I I got 
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movement. 
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much about churches or anything 
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I went to a Presbyterian Church 
and everyone and nice people, 

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nice, beautiful building, but I,
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I never knew that I needed a 
savior. 

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I, I knew I was a Sinner, but I 
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I'm just going to go my own way 
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But I, I didn't really feel or 
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Lord, but I always believed that
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I believe that the Bible was 
real. 

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I believe that Jesus died on the
cross for our sins and he was 

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buried and he rose again the 
third day. 

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But that was all mental. 
It wasn't internal. 

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And so I had to go through some 
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was lost and I needed a savior. 
And so I got saved by reading 

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the Bible, the New Testament. 
My brother gave it to me and 

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said you might find some answers
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And so I read it. 
And by the time I got through 

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the Gospels, I realized that 
like Jesus was like no one else 

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I ever met. 
And if I wanted to be close to 

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someone and have a friend, I 
wanted him to be Jesus because 

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no one else was ever a friend of
me like that or ever has been 

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since that time. 
And so go to Atlantic City to 

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work. 
Cindy and I are living, get 

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married or live down there. 
And so I started going to First 

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Baptist Church of Atlantic City 
and it was amazing church. 

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The pastor was one of the most 
anointed, spirit filled godly 

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men I ever met in my life. 
Him and his wife. 

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I'd see this guy walking to me 
and I was so conditioned to 

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think about the New Testament, 
the Gospels, that when I, when I

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saw this guy was so intimidating
because he, he just had this 

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countenance of Jesus in his life
unlike anybody I've ever met in 

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my life. 
I mean, whenever I was with this

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guy, the Lord was all around the
conversation and whether we were

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playing tennis or they were over
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Cindy and I are in their young 
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And so he's teaching the Bible 
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I didn't understand that there 
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Christ between cessationists, 
people that believe that the 

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gifts of the Holy Spirit, the 
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endeavouring to. 
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And and then I I met, you know, 
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know, what's a continuous with 
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Chapel that we don't believe 
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them as he wills. 
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to realize that we don't have 
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have Apostolic anointing in a 
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like the apostles and just this 
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So there was a Pentecostal 
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these two sides of the of the 
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the aberrant teachings that can 
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think you have coming to this 
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every church group that you can 
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Word of Faith movement. 
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about that. 
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you'll be open to as we teach on
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praying with Lewis and my 
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with a beard, always praying Ted
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Thankful to these guys and all 
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But as I was back there thinking
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don't want to confuse anybody. 
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I just want you because this is 
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I, I pray because all of you 
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different backgrounds. 
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different views, maybe 
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my heart when I was praying. 
The wind blows wherever it 

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pleases. 
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cannot tell where it comes from 
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Cell phone. 
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cooperate. 
Jesus is talking to Nicodemus, a

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religious leader who was a smart
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of things, but he couldn't grasp
Jesus telling him that he needed

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It made no logical sense to him 
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my pastor when I read through 
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Especially chapter 12 and 14. 
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church be like this? 
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says I don't know Clark. 
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I don't know Clark. 
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allow him to talk about some of 
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to talk to him about the day. 
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enough and all these different 
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different kind of people and, 
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pastors and, and different 
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this wondered, you know, why 
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people from both sides that can 
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the essentials and not get 
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are non essential? 
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of wisdom. 
He came out of the Foursquare 

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movement, which is highly 
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Amy Semple McPherson and she was
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biblical. 
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and God, being faithful and 
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in that church in spite of her 
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charismatic pastor. 
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happened, the Jesus Revolution, 
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these hippies started coming to 
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knowledge of Jesus, no knowledge

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of the Bible, no knowledge of 
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they needed help. 
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gospel to them and began to 
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Chuck used to teach topical 
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And he said to his wife, you 
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I have nothing else to preach 
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really do something good for the
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a book of the Bible. 
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of first John. 
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the lives of the people changing
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simply teaching the Bible. 
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his past preconceived ideas 
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The work of the Holy Spirit. 
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that they all existed to gifts, 
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manipulating or or or making 
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church meetings, and he also 
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Pink. 
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kind of thinkers. 
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that were rooted in the truths 
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proportion. 
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to Calvary Chapel, I felt like 
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because I am not a cessationist.
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those views, but I I could just 
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verses in Corinthians and saying
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today or they're not real. 
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Christ has to draw them. 
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comes to the Father except I 
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save you. 
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how to believe, how to trust in 
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can't make it happen. 
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as Jesus said in John chapter 3,
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gifts of the miraculous, gifts 
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humble and they weren't using 
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to themselves, which is the 
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The spiritual gifts are given to
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the church up, not to build our 
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we get saved, the Holy Spirit 
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gifts as the Holy Spirit comes 
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throughout your life. 
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the Holy Spirit, which is taught
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Ephesians, that we're commanded 
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God, the Holy Spirit. 
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some leaders and she just said, 
I want to tell you guys 

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something. 
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this church talks about the Holy
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She said a lot of churches you 
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Holy Spirit and they sort of 
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We would never do that here. 
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God, the Holy Spirit, to give us
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the glory of God and the feeding
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So we're going to get into 14 
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wanted to read something about 
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which is very big in our 
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Unfortunately, in Pittsburgh, 
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part of what is called the Word 
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And I used to go to the 
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I knew some of the people, I 
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phenomena, if you may, and my 
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But I'm a seeker, so I'm always 
like God. 

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If I'm missing anything, reveal 
it to me. 

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Let me experience it. 
Hunger, where the Word of Faith 

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teaching is decidedly 
unbiblical. 

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It is not a denomination and 
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organization or hierarchy. 
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heavily influenced by a number 
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teachers. 
And I'm going to name some names

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and some of you might be 
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I'm not trying to offend you, 
but if you want to hear more 

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about my own story and my 
experiences with some of these 

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people, I'll tell you why I'm 
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Kenneth Hagin. 
Benny Hinn. 

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Kenneth Copeland. 
Paul and Jan Crouch and Fred 

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Price. 
The Word of Faith movement grew 

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out of the Pentecostal movement 
the late 20th century. 

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Its founder was EW Kenyon, who 
studied the metaphysical New 

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Thought teachings of Phineas 
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These are cultic, heretic kind 
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Mind Science, where name it and 
claim it originated, was 

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combined with Pentecostalism, 
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Orthodox. 
Christianity and mysticism. 

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Kenneth Hagin in turn, studied 
under Kenyon and made the Word 

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of Faith movement what it is 
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Although individual teachings 
range from completely heretical 

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to completely ridiculous, what 
follows is the basic psychology 

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most of Word of Faith teachers 
align themselves with. 

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At the heart of the Word of 
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the force of faith. 
It is believed words can be used

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to manipulate the faith force 
and thus actually create what 

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they believe. 
Scripture promises health and 

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wealth. 
Laws supposedly governing the 

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faith force are said to operate 
independently of God's sovereign

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will and that God himself is 
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You talk about a big heresy. 
It's frightening. 

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This is nothing short of 
idolatry, turning our faith, and

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by extension ourselves into God.
From here, it's theology just 

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strays further and further from 
Scripture. 

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It claims that God created human
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image as little gods. 
Before the fall, humans had the 

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potential to call things into 
existence by using the faith 

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force. 
After the fall, humans took on 

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Satan's nature and lost the 
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existence in order to correct 
the situation. 

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Jesus Christ gave up his 
divinity and became a man. 

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Give up his divinity. 
God help us, died spiritually, 

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took Satan's nature upon 
himself, went to hell, was born 

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again, and rose from the dead 
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After this, Jesus sent the Holy 
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incarnation and believers so 
they could become little gods as

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God originally attended. 
Following the natural 

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progression of these teachings 
as little gods, we again have 

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the ability to manipulate the 
faith force and become 

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prosperous in all areas of life.
Illness, sin and failure are the

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result of a lack of faith that 
are remedied by confession 

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claiming God's promises for 
oneself into existence. 

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Simply put, the Word of Faith 
movement exalts man to God 

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status, reduces God to man 
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Needless to say, this is a false
representation of what 

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00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,960
Christianity is all about. 
Obviously, Word of Faith 

450
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,240
teachings does not take into 
account what is found in 

451
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,160
Scripture. 
Personal revelation, not 

452
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,640
Scripture, is highly relied upon
in order to come up with such 

453
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,520
absurd beliefs, which is just 
one more proof of its heretical 

454
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,160
nature. 
Countering Word of Faith 

455
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,840
teaching is a simple matter of 
reading the Bible. 

456
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,840
God alone is the sovereign 
creator of the universe and does

457
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,680
not need faith. 
He is the object of faith, God's

458
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,560
God, His spirit does not have a 
physical body. 

459
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,520
Man was created in the image of 
God, but this does not make him 

460
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,000
a little God or divine. 
Only God has a divine nature. 

461
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,920
Christ is eternal, the only 
begotten Son and the only 

462
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,280
incarnation of God, and Him 
dwelt the fullness of the 

463
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,000
Godhead bodily. 
By becoming man, Jesus gave up 

464
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,920
the glory of heaven, but not His
divinity, though He did choose 

465
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,880
to withhold His power while 
walking on the earth is a man. 

466
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,600
The Word of Faith movement is 
deceiving countless people, 

467
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,920
causing them to grasp away a 
life and faith that is not 

468
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,600
biblical. 
At its core is the same lie 

469
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,560
Satan has been telling since the
garden. 

470
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,080
You shall be as God. 
Sadly, those who buy into the 

471
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,560
Word of Faith movement are still
listening to Him. 

472
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,320
Our hope is in the Lord, not in 
our words, not even in our own 

473
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,080
faith. 
Our faith comes from God in the 

474
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,760
1st place and it is not 
something we create ourselves. 

475
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,640
So be wary of the Word of Faith 
movement and any church that 

476
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,200
aligns itself with the Word of 
Faith teachings. 

477
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,400
Joel Osteen. 
Rodney Howard Brown. 

478
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,200
Joyce Meyer. 
These people all flock together.

479
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,520
Their conventions are filled 
with each other, and they're all

480
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,120
multimillionaires at the expense
of the people that blindly 

481
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:07,600
attend their churches and follow
their teachings. 

482
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:16,840
Serious stuff. 
Kenneth Copeland I remember as a

483
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:22,680
young guy waking up in the 
morning, he would come on WPIT 

484
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,800
or whatever, Bless God, glory to
God, you're, you're not the 

485
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:31,680
tail, you're the head, you know,
and I'm thinking like I'm, I'm, 

486
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,120
I'm in a job I hate. 
I'm in a marriage I'm struggling

487
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:40,000
with to see survive. 
I got little kids I don't know 

488
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,080
how to raise. 
I, I needed a quick miracle. 

489
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,080
And Kenneth Copeland at the time
was my I thought my way to find 

490
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,600
the quick answers in overcoming 
life and having no problems. 

491
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,680
It was never about the money. 
So I ended up getting his study 

492
00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,120
Bible to Kenneth Copeland study 
Bible and starting reading some 

493
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,360
of these heresies and and I was 
grounded. 

494
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,440
I went to a really good Bible 
college and my wife would see 

495
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,000
him on TV and she says, Clark, 
how can you listen to that guy? 

496
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,360
Don't you see the devil in his 
eyes? 

497
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,720
Cindy hated him. 
So I, I got to the convention 

498
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,800
down in Philadelphia, you know, 
the Word of Faith convention and

499
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,280
Jerry Savelle and kind of 
Copeland and, and, and, and I 

500
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,040
forget the name of some of these
other people, some used car 

501
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,160
salesman. 
He still preached like a used 

502
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,120
car salesman, a comic committee 
kind of guy. 

503
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,000
Kenneth is there talking and 
getting the audience all 

504
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,320
exciting, starts speaking in 
tongues. 

505
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,720
He has one of his buddies come 
up on the stage. 

506
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,000
He's speaking in tongues of this
guy. 

507
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,920
This guy's speaking back in the 
tongues of him. 

508
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,760
And then Kenneth has the 
audacity to say, God, you hear 

509
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,040
what we're saying here? 
I'm thinking like, where? 

510
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,920
Where do people come up with 
this stuff? 

511
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,440
It's like a carnival. 
And they said everybody's going 

512
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,440
to be healed here tonight by 
faith. 

513
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,280
We're going to take an offering 
first. 

514
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,960
And the more the offering is, 
the better chance you have of 

515
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,040
getting healed. 
That was the bottom line. 

516
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,800
And so I'm there as an usher in 
collecting offerings. 

517
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,800
And this wasn't yesterday. 
Don't be afraid. 

518
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,640
This is a long time ago my 
pilgrimage, OK. 

519
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,920
So I said to the guy I'm working
with, I said, if we have this 

520
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,720
power here tonight, why don't we
go to Children's Hospital across

521
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,360
the street where all these kids 
are dying and they got serious 

522
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,880
illnesses and diseases and go 
lay hands on them and see them 

523
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,120
raised, raised up. 
And the guy looks at me like I 

524
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,280
ruined his night. 
It was like the balloon popped 

525
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,840
that night. 
I went home and I never looked 

526
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,120
back. 
So I'm very, very, as Pastor 

527
00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,840
Lewis and John and George, very 
on guard with any kind of false 

528
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,160
teaching. 
We've left. 

529
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,360
We've had people leave the 
church because we mentioned a 

530
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,920
name. 
Someone once, one time told me, 

531
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,200
don't you touch my Joel Osteen. 
I think, what do you mean you're

532
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,000
Joel Osteen? 
You know, I mean, it's really 

533
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,800
weird that they ended up leaving
them and it's fine. 

534
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,000
So what? 
What happened though, because of

535
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,920
this heresy, it put a real bad 
taste in people's mouths about 

536
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,160
spiritual gifts. 
Like, you see this kind of 

537
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,560
nonsense going on and the first 
thing you think I'm going to 

538
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,000
have nothing to do with any 
church? 

539
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,680
It even like closely mirrors 
that kind of false teaching. 

540
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:49,200
Chuck Smith to this day I admire
this guy because he never was 

541
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,800
thus saith the Lord or he never 
tried to hype the audience up. 

542
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,200
He just simply taught the word 
because he knew the power to 

543
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,080
change a life comes from the the
exposition of the Bible verse by

544
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,720
verse through the whole Bible so
you hear the whole counsel of 

545
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,320
God. 
When Chuck would have pastors 

546
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,320
conferences he never divided 
between a cessationist and a non

547
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,680
cessationist. 
He loved where, where and 

548
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,800
where's be we used some of his 
commentaries. 

549
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,280
He was a cessationist. 
Alistair Begg spoke at our 

550
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,240
conferences. 
He's a cessationist. 

551
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,280
He had other people that he 
would learn from and, and and it

552
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,200
was never like, well, you don't 
believe the gifts are here 

553
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,240
today, so I'm not going to have 
anything to do with you. 

554
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,120
He never acted like that. 
So we we collaborated. 

555
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,600
Jim Boyce, the pastor of Tenth 
Presbyterian Church in 

556
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,440
Philadelphia, very large 
Reformed Presbyterian Church 

557
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,280
that Cindy and I attended for a 
period of time until they got 

558
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,280
into infant baptism. 
And I, you know, I, I, I can't 

559
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,120
swallow that. 
But, but anyway, it's a story 

560
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,560
for another time. 
But anyway, when Jim died, him 

561
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,120
and Joe were so close. 
Joe the pastor of Calvary 

562
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,080
Chapel, Philadelphia. 
They loved each other and the 

563
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,240
God used them both mightily and 
is using Joe mightily, but they 

564
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,280
didn't have to draw a line in 
the sand. 

565
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,520
They, they, they were able to, 
to agree on certain things and 

566
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,760
disagree on other things and 
still have fellowship. 

567
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,800
The Boyce's eulogy in his 
funeral was it was in Calvary, 

568
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,200
Philly, because it was the 
largest place to have all the 

569
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,000
people that would come to, to 
honor Jim's, excuse me, Jim's 

570
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,400
life. 
And so that's sort of the long 

571
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:37,960
and short of what I wanted to to
talk to you about before I 

572
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:43,360
actually get into the. 
The teaching Chuck Smith, the 

573
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,360
founder of the Calvary Chapel 
movement, taught that all the 

574
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,760
gifts of the Holy Spirit are 
available and active for 

575
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,360
Christians today. 
A continuous view, but emphasize

576
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,600
their proper scriptural use for 
the edification of the church 

577
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,800
and the glory of God, not for 
personal gain or drawing 

578
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:04,040
attention to oneself. 
Smith believe the sign gifts 

579
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,280
like tongues, healing, miracles 
and prophecy as well as service 

580
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,639
gifts are still distributed by 
the Holy Spirit as He wills. 

581
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,239
Not as you and I will, but as 
the Holy Spirit wills. 

582
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,600
The primary purpose of spiritual
gifts is to minister God's grace

583
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,400
to others, build up the body of 
Christ, and glorify God. 

584
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,800
He warned against using them for
personal notoriety or enrichment

585
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,480
while believing in the gifts. 
He stressed the importance of 

586
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,199
order and church services, 
particularly regarding the use 

587
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,840
of tongues. 
Based on 1st Corinthians 14, he 

588
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,440
taught the public use of 
tongues, and we'll read this 

589
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,480
later. 
Should be limited to two or 

590
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,679
three people and must have an 
interpreter. 

591
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,679
Otherwise, a person should speak
only to themselves and to God. 

592
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,639
He preferred the gift of 
prophecy, speaking and 

593
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:57,520
understanding the Word from God 
in public assembly for the sake 

594
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,720
of edification. 
Smith emphasized that the Word 

595
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:04,040
of God, taught through the 
Enlightenment of Holy Spirit is 

596
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,520
essential for spiritual growth. 
He believed that relying on 

597
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,040
experience alone or seeking 
signs without faith in the Word 

598
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,160
was a mistake. 
He highlighted the diversity of 

599
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,480
the gifts teaching, helps, 
giving, showing mercy, 

600
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,200
leadership, and taught that each
is important and given grace by 

601
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,440
God. 
He noted that some gifts like 

602
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,400
helps often receive more honor 
from God even if they are 

603
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,080
unnoticed by people. 
He taught that the power of the 

604
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,080
Holy Spirit is referred to the 
indwelling and empowering of the

605
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:41,440
Spirit that's promised to all 
believers to experience. 

606
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,280
Chuck advocated for a balanced 
approach, that approach that 

607
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,600
embraced the full range of 
spiritual gifts for remaining 

608
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,680
firmly grounded in biblical 
principles and focus on the 

609
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,400
glory of God and the benefits of
the church. 

610
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,880
I was at Costa Mesa numerous 
times. 

611
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,120
Never once did I ever see 
anybody speak in tongues in the 

612
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,920
church. 
I've been to pastors conferences

613
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,400
with many of the leaders that 
have come with us from this 

614
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,680
church to experience the 
conferences. 

615
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,560
Never once have I ever heard 
anybody speak in this meetings 

616
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,040
in tongues. 
I didn't hear anybody behind me 

617
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,640
during worship speaking in 
tongues. 

618
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,160
We don't believe that that's 
biblical within the confines of 

619
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,680
the of the worship of the 
church. 

620
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,680
Do we believe that people, some 
people have the gifts of praying

621
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,560
in the Spirit and tongues 
doesn't make them any better or 

622
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,360
any less than any other 
Christian, but it's to be used 

623
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,120
in your private prayer clause 
and alone with the Lord because 

624
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,280
the Bible will teach us as we 
get into this. 

625
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:53,000
That's he who speaks in an 
unknown tongue, speaks unto God,

626
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,640
not unto men. 
So sometimes people come here 

627
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,360
and they wonder, well, in our 
worship, why can't we just have 

628
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,040
people break into tongues? 
Well, because it's not biblical,

629
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,520
that's why. 
And you got some people like, 

630
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,960
why is that person making a 
spectacle themselves? 

631
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,720
They're getting my eyes off of 
Jesus and I'm hearing them. 

632
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,960
And it's not what the Lord would
want. 

633
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:24,640
So that lays the foundation of I
think who we are, where we are 

634
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:31,680
and and how we function. 
I, I knew Chuck personally, he 

635
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:38,520
was the most quiet, humble, 
meek, God exalting person that 

636
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,080
I've ever met. 
Outside of that first pastor I 

637
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,880
met. 
Chuck would tell us in a 

638
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,280
conference is that the 
importance of the power of the 

639
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,720
Holy Spirit that we need is 
pastors and men to do what it 

640
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:51,760
is. 
It's an impossible job without 

641
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,480
the Holy Spirit. 
His life first is Zechariah 46. 

642
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,400
It's not by might nor by power, 
but by my Spirit, sayeth the 

643
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:07,000
Lord of hosts. 
And he wasn't into semantics. 

644
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,360
Many times enters into the 
conversation. 

645
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:15,520
He says, I don't care what you 
call the experience, baptism, 

646
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,120
filling, outpouring, 
overflowing. 

647
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,640
He says those are just 
definitions. 

648
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,560
He says just make sure it's 
happening in your life, that the

649
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,560
Holy Spirit is filling you and 
that he's living out of you to 

650
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,080
be a blessing to other people. 
How awesome's that? 

651
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:39,800
So here we are in the city of 
Greensburg. 

652
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,800
Very few churches teach the word
of God anymore. 

653
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,560
That's why this church is 
planted. 

654
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:52,920
A lot of these churches are 
LGBTQ affirming, pro-choice 

655
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,320
affirming. 
That's the way it is. 

656
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,520
It's the last days. 
There'll be a famine for the 

657
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:03,360
word of God in the last days. 
So when you find a church like 

658
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,560
this, thank the Lord for it 
because they're few and far 

659
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:15,640
between In California right now.
Mike McClure is being sued still

660
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,000
for opening the church during 
COVID. 

661
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,240
This is under Calvary Chapel 
magazine. 

662
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:26,000
Coming up, Jay Sekulow and a 
couple other legal people that 

663
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,960
work with churches for their 
rights or petitioning and 

664
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,960
working to say that this is 
unlawful lawsuit. 

665
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,760
It was a $5,000,000 lawsuit. 
Now it's down to 1.6 million. 

666
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:51,040
Mike said in his interview that 
Calvary Chapel knew that it 

667
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,960
needed to open during COVID out 
there because people had no 

668
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,600
place to go. 
The sheep had no place to go. 

669
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,400
And the church, instead of 
having 600, it had 4000 within a

670
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,400
period of a few months because 
all the other churches were 

671
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,160
closed. 
And a lot of the people that 

672
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,840
attended the church heard the 
gospel for the first time and 

673
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,800
got saved and they had massive 
baptisms there. 

674
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,640
And I talked to Mike at one of 
the pastors conferences a couple

675
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,840
years ago. 
I said, how in the world have 

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00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,320
you been able to get through 
that? 

677
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,800
Not just want to quit and move 
to a different state. 

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00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:29,520
He says, Clark, it's, it's the 
Holy Spirit. 

679
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,680
And this is what he's calling us
to do. 

680
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,400
And he says, I, I wish we could 
get in a car and go somewhere 

681
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,600
else, but this is where the Lord
told me I got to be. 

682
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,960
He said in California. 
And you guys know what's going 

683
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,760
on out there. 
He said it's hard to say this, 

684
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:54,760
but he says there isn't a lot of
alternatives for believers to go

685
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,680
to church anymore because of the
false teaching and the heresies.

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00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,640
And Calvary Chapel is one of the
few churches and we're not a 

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00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,440
denomination, we're a fellowship
of like minded believers is one 

688
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,200
of the few churches that are 
holding to the simple teaching 

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00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,760
of the Bible verse by verse. 
And I'm so thankful for the men 

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00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,400
in this church and the women in 
this church that teach 

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00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,720
expositionally the whole council
of God. 

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00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,640
Someone told me that they've 
been coming here and they've 

693
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,720
become dear friends of ours. 
We had dinner with him a while 

694
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:33,960
back and he's and, and, and the 
wife said I will never attend 

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00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,240
one of those crazy churches 
again. 

696
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,200
My life changed when I started 
hearing Grace FM and started 

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00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:47,400
coming to Calvary Chapel. 
All my confusion dissipated and 

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00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,840
I began to love the Word of God 
and see how the Word of God 

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00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:57,320
changes me and changes us. 
I believe and this is the 

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00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,120
challenge to you guys. 
You have friends and people who 

701
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,680
are in dead churches that quench
and grieve the Spirit. 

702
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,760
You have friends that are in 
churches that aren't teaching 

703
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,800
the Word anymore. 
Speak into their life and let 

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00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,600
them know there's alternatives 
today and Calvary Chapel 

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00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,480
Greensburg is 1. 
Invite them. 

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00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Tell them to listen to Grace FM 
Tell them to get into the 

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00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,200
scriptures, get into the word of
God. 

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00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,880
If I die tomorrow, this church 
will continually be stronger and

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00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,080
stronger. 
Young men like Cason and Sam 

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00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,120
growing up, the guys are 
teaching the church, just stand 

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00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,320
up for a minute. 
The guys are teaching the 

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00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,840
Wednesday nights and Bible 
states stand up. 

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00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,360
Any guys they're teaching, stand
up for a minute. 

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00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:49,840
Stand up. 
Pastor Lewis, stand up back 

715
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,680
there. 
Thank you. 

716
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,640
Everybody knows you. 
But you, you know, you got to 

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00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,160
you got to have my back all the 
time. 

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00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,560
But OK, now, now the women stay 
up. 

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00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,960
Stand up. 
Women that teach in the Bible 

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00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:11,360
study in the church, stand up. 
Women, Karen, stand up. 

721
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,400
Don't be shy. 
Who else are we missing? 

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00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,840
Anybody else here? 
The people that teach our kids, 

723
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,360
they're teaching the same way. 
Stand up, Brad and Janelle. 

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00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,000
Isn't that amazing? 
Let's thank the Lord for these 

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00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:40,440
people. 
So because of what they do, and 

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00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,640
they're on, the guys are on 
Wednesday night, they're 

727
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,760
recorded, they're on the radio 
live and Grace FM, thanks to 

728
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,680
Kevin, he made that happen. 
Get your friends, get the people

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00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:55,560
that know you say, hey, listen 
to me on the radio at 7:00 or 

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00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,400
whatever on 91.7. 
They're going to come to this 

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00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,960
church because they know your 
life and your example, your 

732
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,400
testimony, and they're tired of 
not having the Word of God 

733
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,360
available to them. 
That's the priority of of this 

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00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,920
church is to have the word of 
God available to as many people 

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00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,800
as possible. 
We have a lot of seats here 

736
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,320
today that need to be filled, 
and we believe God's going to 

737
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,160
fill them, but He's going to 
fill them because of your 

738
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:30,280
influence and your invitation to
have people come to this church.

739
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,440
We have the Guineon Bible app. 
It's wonderful. 

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00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,240
Fred's provided these with AQR 
code along with the Calvary 

741
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:42,720
Chapel Connect card, plus these 
little Bibles that you can give 

742
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,480
out the people when you're out 
and about in the community, 

743
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,080
going through a Starbucks or 
wherever, and ask them how their

744
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,840
days going. 
Ask them if there's something 

745
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,040
you can pray for them about. 
Get the conversations going, 

746
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,240
give them a Bible, tell them 
about the QR code. 

747
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,560
They can connect with this and 
if they're having troubles in 

748
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,440
their lives, they can find the 
answers in the Bible to the 

749
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,480
troubles that they have for the 
solution. 

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00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,960
And then our our connect card 
also QR code for the website. 

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00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,880
It tells us where we meet, the 
time we meet the address and 

752
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:22,640
it's you are invited. 
Is anybody willing to do that 

753
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,360
here? 
Stand up if you're willing to do

754
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:35,590
this. 
OK, There's a few of you 

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00:45:35,590 --> 00:45:37,190
sitting. 
Is there any reason why you're 

756
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:40,270
sitting? 
That's OK. 

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00:45:40,430 --> 00:45:43,710
Well, Fred, Fred tells me, you 
know, Fred, like he's all 

758
00:45:43,710 --> 00:45:47,230
excited about Turning Point. 
He says, Clark, you know, we got

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00:45:47,230 --> 00:45:49,870
to get moving for the Lord. 
The time's running out. 

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00:45:49,870 --> 00:45:53,270
And he's right. 
We got to get active in the 

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00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:56,360
community. 
And as a side note, there's a 

762
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,400
pamphlet out there for the food 
bank. 

763
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,560
If you guys want to be part of 
Turning Point, you don't have to

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00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,800
come to the meeting. 
But Turning Point is just being 

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00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,080
a Christian and caring about 
people and sharing the gospel. 

766
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,680
That's what Turning Point's 
about, right? 

767
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,040
And so there's a food bank is a 
flyer. 

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00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,760
It tells you what they need. 
We're going to collect and put 

769
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,360
it in the hallway back here 
wherever Karen wants it up until

770
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,400
the date that they're going to 
pick it up. 

771
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,800
Someone's going to come in a 
truck and pick it up, I think on

772
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,920
Monday the 24th. 
So it tells you exactly what you

773
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,480
can get. 
No perishable items, but we can 

774
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,400
help. 
A lot of people are hungry right

775
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,320
now. 
Government workers aren't 

776
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,040
getting paychecks right now, 
right? 

777
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,720
There's a lot of things going on
in our culture. 

778
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,920
People are having trouble with 
food stamps, all these kind of 

779
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,200
things. 
We got to be salt and light and 

780
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,080
be part of the solution, right? 
And this is a real simple thing 

781
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:51,800
you can do to be part of this 
movement that's happening right 

782
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:57,120
now in the country. 
So I gave you some background. 

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00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,040
I don't recommend TBN. 
Be honest with you. 

784
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,000
You might find one or two good 
pastors on there occasionally, 

785
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,560
but you got to go. 
You sift through a lot of 

786
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,640
garbage and your mind will get 
skewed, unfortunately, by false 

787
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,680
teaching very easily if you're 
not careful. 

788
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:22,080
Oh, it's 12:00 already. 
OK, I'm going to read this one 

789
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,120
verse here. 
This is first Corinthians 13 

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00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:35,160
before we go into the teaching 
next week and now abide faith, 

791
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,920
hope and love these three. 
But the greatest of these is 

792
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,040
love. 
Pursue love and desire spiritual

793
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,680
gifts, but especially that you 
may prophecy. 

794
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,000
So read chapter 14 this week 
with an open heart. 

795
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,920
I'll do the best I can by God's 
grace to give it to you straight

796
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:01,400
and it's going to be exciting 
and ask the Lord to give you 

797
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,680
whatever it is that he wants to 
give you to use for his glory 

798
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,480
and to serve people and to build
the church up. 

799
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,080
Amen. 
Well, let's take the Lord's 

800
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,280
Supper and they, I'm sorry I 
took a little bit longer than I 

801
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,280
thought I would, but I felt like
to go, to go into this teaching 

802
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,480
without some background would be
ridiculous. 

803
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:25,840
I hope that helped a little bit,
You know, did it help? 

804
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,520
All right, good. 
So anybody mad at me here today?

805
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,000
That's a, that's a good thing. 
That's a good thing. 

806
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,360
We'll take the Lord's Supper and
at the end you can come up and 

807
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,320
pray if you want pray for the 
movement of the Holy Spirit in 

808
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,920
our city in your lives that 
we're going to pray for Cliff up

809
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,480
here. 
He's having surgery this week, 

810
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,960
back surgery and Lewis's wife 
Terry's getting surgery, hip 

811
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,360
surgery. 
I'm getting a colonoscopy 

812
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,520
tomorrow. 
So please pray for me to my 

813
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:05,880
colon doesn't get blown out. 
But anyway, it's fun serving the

814
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,480
Lord with you guys. 
It really is it's a blessing. 

815
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:15,440
I'm so thankful for all of you. 
Lord Jesus, we honor you today. 

816
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:19,520
We worship you, we celebrate 
you, and thank you that you've 

817
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,600
given us your word to guide us 
into all truth. 

818
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:30,920
Holy Spirit, we're thankful that
you were here with us and that 

819
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,640
you're moving in our hearts and 
our midst to give us this desire

820
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:40,240
to know Jesus better and to 
praise Him and to lift him up to

821
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:44,520
worship Him, to glorify Him. 
We thank you for the gift things

822
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,840
that you give us of your Spirit,
Lord, because there's no way the

823
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,400
church would exist apart from 
you, Holy Spirit, and how you 

824
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:56,800
empower each of us as believers.
Help us to study, to show 

825
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:02,080
ourselves approved unto God, 
Rightly dividing the word of 

826
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:07,960
truth. 
Workmen that need not be 

827
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,160
ashamed, Rightly dividing the 
word of truth. 

828
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,800
Help us to do that. 
Lord, on the night that Jesus is

829
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,480
betrayed, He took the bread in 
his hands and he broke it and he

830
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,960
gave thanks and he said, take 
heed, this is my body which is 

831
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,760
given for you. 
Eat this in remembrance of me. 

832
00:50:29,770 --> 00:50:33,810
The same manner in that evening 
He took the cup and he said, 

833
00:50:33,810 --> 00:50:36,730
This cup is a new covenant in my
blood which is shed for the 

834
00:50:36,730 --> 00:50:40,890
forgiveness of sins of many. 
Drink this in remembrance of me,

835
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,320
for as often as you eat this 
bread, and you drink this cup, 

836
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,240
you shall force the Lord's death
till he comes again. 

837
00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:49,720
Amen.
