1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,440 Hi everyone, It's Doctor Divya Srinivasa. 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,000 Welcome back to another episode of Inside Thoughts Out Loud, 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,040 except today's episode should be titled Outside Thoughts Out Loud 4 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:14,160 because I have been very vocal about how absurd it is that KC 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,840 Means is our nominee for Surgeon General of the United States of 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,440 America. To really understand why KC 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,400 Means shouldn't be the Surgeon General, we have to define what 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,280 the surgeon General does. The surgeon general is a 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,360 government appointed position that leads the practice of 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:36,280 medicine in the United States. So you should be somebody who 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,880 has practiced medicine. Casey Means doesn't practice 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,320 medicine, hasn't practiced medicine, and I'm going to get 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,200 to this. She doesn't even have a medical 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,040 license. She can't even prescribe. 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,920 And I'm going to get to this too. 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,880 She's never in her career practiced unsupervised medicine. 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,800 You have to finish residency to practice unsupervised medicine. 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,320 We're going to get there. We're going to talk about all of 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,920 this, but the person that has been nominated by RFK Junior and 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Trump to be our surgeon General. Again, the person who represents 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,320 the the most, the best representation of the practice 22 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:13,280 of medicine in the United States, that represents the 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,640 healthcare of, of Americans, the person they want has never 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,680 practiced medicine. The irony there is she didn't 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,800 actually finish residency. And I have to talk about this. 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,200 I actually put this on threads and I'm going to read you guys 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,480 some of the responses I got because here's the thing. 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,600 I also did a five year surgical program. 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,920 On top of that. I did four more years of 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,520 training. But it's not about my training. 31 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,720 It's about her lack of training. And as someone who did five 32 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,280 years, because general surgery is generally 5 years long, ENT 33 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:47,200 surgery five years long, she was in a surgical training program 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,840 program and she made it over 4 years through and then quit. 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,920 And I just want the general public to know nobody does that. 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,280 It's like quitting a marathon in your last quarter mile. 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,160 Nobody does that. You're too far through. 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,160 Look, does surgical training suck? 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,880 Yeah, it's hard. You are working inhumane hours. 40 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,080 And when you do the math, you're getting paid less than minimum 41 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,000 wage. It's many places have a toxic 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,120 work culture. It's not easy, all of us can 43 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,880 tell you that, but when you've gotten that far, nobody quits. 44 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,960 Like it's just not a thing that happens. 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,560 So I really want to know, and this is what I posted on 46 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,800 threads, what's the T like, what happened? 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,680 Did she get kicked out? Did something happen? 48 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,160 Nobody quits surgical residency. You're just too far along. 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,840 You're this close to being done with the training program. 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,640 And it's important because that's the check mark that's 51 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:42,040 going to get you board certification. 52 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,480 And if you don't have board certification, most hospitals 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,240 are not going to give you privileges. 54 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,000 So you got to finish something. Now, is it common for people to 55 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,200 drop out part way through? Maybe not common, but it's not 56 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,080 unheard of. There are people that will say, 57 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,560 I thought I wanted to be a surgeon, Surgery is not it for 58 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,480 me. And they'll do something else. 59 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,120 But doesn't this all sound familiar? 60 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,800 Stanford Medical School graduate and then dropped out of surgical 61 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,520 training. Peter Atia, I don't know what 62 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,440 this like pipeline to being a grifter, terrible person is, but 63 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,720 both Casey and Peter have a lot in common. 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,040 I want to bring up the threads because I did not expect this to 65 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,560 do as well as it did, and I think it's because a lot of 66 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,520 people picked up on just how unusual it is. 67 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,160 So I said Casey means quit ENT residency when she was within a 68 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,120 year of completion. As someone who also did a five 69 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,000 year surgical training program, I can tell you that nobody does 70 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,600 that. If you're going to quit, you 71 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,680 quit earlier. When you're that far along, you 72 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,120 just finish and then you do what you want. 73 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,120 I know people who got through surgical training programs and 74 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,320 they they're not surgeons. They don't practice surgery. 75 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,840 That's OK, I've seen that happen. 76 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,080 But you don't quit that far down. 77 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,360 This tells me that there's more of the story and I have enough 78 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,200 friends here in medicine. Somebody spilled the tea. 79 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,320 OK, so 12,000 likes hundreds of comments. 80 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,840 So here's one comment. One comment was the rumor is 81 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,040 that she was fired for poor surgical skills and crippling 82 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,960 anxiety. I've heard that some surgical 83 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,560 programs will kick people out late in the game because that's 84 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,920 when they really start letting residents loose in the OR by 85 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,480 themselves, and inevitably they find out that some of them can't 86 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,760 function. A good program should identify 87 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,040 those issues much earlier or strongly encourage people to do 88 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,880 fellowship or research. But apparently OHSOHSU is toxic. 89 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,360 So this all tracks. I think that's a really 90 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,440 interesting comment. Look, I did surgical training 91 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,720 programs. I was not at OHSU, but I think 92 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,400 toxic is a word that's used to describe a lot of training 93 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,840 programs, especially in surgery. So that aside, again, no matter 94 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:40,760 how toxic it may or may not have been, she got most of the way 95 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,240 through right. I got to say my personal 96 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,800 experience has been it's residency's. 97 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,160 They don't really kick people out. 98 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,160 Now I've heard of people being required to do an extra year or 99 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,880 do something extra to bolster their skill set or help them get 100 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,160 to a point where they are where they need to be to graduate. 101 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,520 But usually you only get kicked out of programs for things like 102 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,880 drug abuse or like like severe infractions. 103 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,600 We're talking severe infractions that would require a program to 104 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,240 literally kick somebody out. And again, I don't know her 105 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,360 history. I don't know anyone. 106 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,240 I don't have any secret until I, I am not Candace Owens. 107 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,200 But I have to tell you, as someone who's been through the 108 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,720 training, nobody just drops out like that. 109 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,800 There's more of the story another user commented. 110 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,440 I have personal experience with this. 111 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,280 My daughter is a resident and she hates it. 112 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,720 I hated it too, but she doesn't want to quit. 113 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,640 I didn't want to quit either. She's worked so hard to get into 114 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,480 medical school and then worked extremely hard to get through 115 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,520 medical school. It makes no sense to quit when 116 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,080 you're so close. If Casey Means didn't care 117 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,600 enough to finish, why would she even want the job as surgeon 118 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,720 general? Compare her resume to someone 119 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,280 like Doctor Vivek Murthy. I mean, yeah, right. 120 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:53,840 Like sensible people. We all have the same question. 121 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:56,160 Girl, you couldn't even get through a residency. 122 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,360 You want to be the Surgeon General? 123 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,840 How does that make any sense whatsoever? 124 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,160 OK, so this is really interesting. 1 user shared a 125 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,120 message from her division chair. So that's the Doctor Who's in 126 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,440 charge of the division of ENT. Doctor Paul Flint, who is 127 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,720 chairman of the Department of Otolaryngology at OHSU at the 128 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,480 time, tells Vanity Fair that when Means left the program, it 129 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,320 was because she found the surgical work too stressful and 130 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,040 was not able to continue in the residency. 131 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,000 At least she had the strength to recognize that in her fourth 132 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,520 year. It took lots of guts. 133 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,880 I didn't push her out the door. He adds, however, that you lose 134 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,600 some credibility when you just drop out. 135 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,920 He says he believes that since then, she has mischaracterized 136 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,680 US medicine as a conspiracy to keep people sick. 137 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,200 She's wrong, he said, adding it's a certain attitude that 138 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,000 denies all the successes that occur in medicine. 139 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,640 OK, so that's, that's a really interesting take because he's 140 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,320 acknowledging that the reason she left was because of her own 141 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,880 insufficiencies as a surgeon. But again, it's super unusual. 142 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,080 People don't usually make it till their fourth year. 143 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,840 All of residency is really stressful and hard. 144 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:04,280 And although the nature of the stress changes because you get 145 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:07,120 more responsibility as you move through the program, many would 146 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,520 argue that the beginning years are actually the hardest, right? 147 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,080 So she made it through all of that. 148 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,680 And if you want to be a doctor, there are other residency 149 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,000 programs, right? So if you quit surgery, it's 150 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,640 common to then go into anesthesia or pick another 151 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,760 specialty and do that residency program. 152 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,680 She didn't, she chose chose not to. 153 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,520 She chose actually to not finish any training program. 154 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,440 And I want to take a minute and educate everybody on what is 155 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,440 residency like? How does this whole thing work? 156 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,720 People think you go to medical school, you graduate, you become 157 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:38,680 a doctor. OK, great. 158 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,720 You're a doctor now. Yeah, sort of. 159 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,720 You graduate medical school and you get your MD degree, OK, Or 160 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,800 DO degree and you then have to complete a residency. 161 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:55,520 You have never practiced unsupervised medicine when you 162 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,240 were in medical school. So when you graduate and you get 163 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,440 that doctor degree, you've never practiced medicine in an 164 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,080 unsupervised fashion. When you are a resident, you do 165 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,120 not practice medicine in an unsupervised fashion. 166 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,400 The only time that any practicing physician in the 167 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,080 United States gets to practice medicine in an unsupervised 168 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,360 fashion is when you are done with the residency training 169 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,920 program. Even the last day of residency, 170 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,640 you are supervised. Your work is spoken for by an 171 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,400 attending, an attending doctor, an attending surgeon. 172 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,159 KC Means has never practiced unsupervised medicine. 173 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,400 And this woman wants to be the surgeon general of the United 174 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,120 States. I mean, it's madness. 175 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,280 It is absolute madness. And the fact that people are so 176 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,160 quick to overlook it, I think partially maybe because they 177 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,640 don't get how this whole thing works. 178 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,520 You can drop out of a residency. I have many friends who have 179 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,640 changed their specialties, chosen to do something else. 180 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,360 Maybe some even spent extra years trying to get the get the 181 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,600 specialty that they want. Choosing the right specialty is 182 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,960 really important. But if you're a Peter Atia, if 183 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,960 you're AKC means and you just don't finish and you don't do 184 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,920 anything else, you've never practiced medicine in an 185 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,440 unsupervised fashion. And that's wild to me. 186 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,680 OK, so she didn't finish residency. 187 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,680 What else about KC means? Well, there's a lot to say. 188 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,680 The woman doesn't have a medical license. 189 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:24,920 So I watched this clip where she's getting interrogated about 190 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:30,920 her lack of a medical license, which in 2026 we are asking our 191 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,240 nominee for the surgeon general why she doesn't have a license 192 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,960 to practice medicine in the United States. 193 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,520 Wild. OK, so while they're asking her 194 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,640 this, they're saying do do you intend on getting a medical 195 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,160 license? I mean, you don't have one. 196 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:48,560 And she says, no, not only do I not have a medical license, I 197 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:50,720 don't plan on getting a medical license. 198 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:54,880 OK, please tell us. KC means why you don't need a 199 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,720 medical license, but you want to be the surgeon general. 200 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,080 And she says, well, I never I don't see patients. 201 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,720 Why do I need a medical license if I don't see patients? 202 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,040 That should tell you everything you need to know about how 203 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,800 unqualified this woman is. A medical license, Sure. 204 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,560 One reason you'd get 1 is so that you can legally practice 205 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:16,280 medicine and see patients, but there's so much more to it than 206 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,120 that. When you apply for a medical 207 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,520 license, they are pulling. Have you been sued? 208 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,440 Have you won? Have you lost? 209 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,640 Have you had drug problems? Have you been arrested? 210 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,840 What is your history? Do you qualify to be a 211 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:36,400 physician? No one ever has gone through 212 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:42,200 that to decide whether KC means even qualifies to have a medical 213 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,120 license, let alone be the Surgeon General of the United 214 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,320 States. She doesn't have a medical 215 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,240 license and when she's asked, well, do you want to get one 216 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,200 now? She still says no. 217 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:55,240 And her reasoning being I don't take care of patients. 218 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:59,760 This woman doesn't even understand why medical licensure 219 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,640 exists for all careers, for all professions, right? 220 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,280 Whether there's the bar, if you're going to be a lawyer, 221 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,320 there's medical licensure and board certification if you want 222 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,280 to be a doctor. These entities, they hold us 223 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,080 responsible and accountable. If you think about all of those 224 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,880 like crazy stories you hear, I think there was that 225 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,600 neurosurgeon, I believe he was in Texas and he was 226 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,920 intentionally killing people. People reported him to the 227 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,320 medical board. They reported him to to the 228 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,000 entity that manages medical licensure. 229 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,160 They hold us accountable. This woman has never been held 230 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,000 accountable, nor does she hold a medical license. 231 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,320 And she thinks this joke of a human thinks it's irrelevant 232 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,880 because she's not practicing medicine by seeing patients. 233 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,000 Are we for real with us? If I haven't convinced you 234 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,600 enough why this woman should be nowhere near the position of the 235 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,240 surgeon general. Just think about what she says. 236 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,800 Think about the things she's gone on record as saying. 237 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,840 First of all, when she speaks, there is a clear lack of 238 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,720 intelligence or insight. She will say the word sickness 239 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,920 and disease at nauseam, but she won't name the disease. 240 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:09,040 She'll just say, oh, America is sick. 241 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,600 Oh, there are so many diseases. What diseases, Casey? 242 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,760 Have you ever treated a disease, Casey Unsupervised? 243 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,400 Do you know, can you prescribe for any diseases, Casey? 244 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,960 You can't because you don't have a medical license. 245 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,880 She'll just use these vague terms, which is very Maha coded, 246 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,840 right? Vague terms that people go, oh, 247 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,640 disease, sickness. Those are bad words, yes. 248 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,200 What is she saying about sickness and disease? 249 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,320 Yet there's no specificity to anything that she says because 250 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,240 she's not educated in those topics. 251 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,880 Sure, we can talk about root cause analysis all day long. 252 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,480 Yes, inflammation is bad. We can all agree on that, But at 253 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,040 the end of the day, if you don't have a 360 degree understanding 254 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,680 of medicine and the human body through the practice of 255 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:56,080 medicine, you shouldn't be the surgeon general. 256 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,680 And this is a problem that we see with so many Wellness 257 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:01,120 scripters, right? They use these buzzwords that 258 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,960 get people hooked and they're able to spread misinformation so 259 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,720 readily. I mean, Casey was also grilled 260 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,400 on her stance on vaccines. This woman cannot commit to a 261 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,960 singular sentence. She, I mean, the verbal 262 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,080 gymnastics is just so frustrating. 263 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,320 She doesn't want to admit that she's gone on record for being 264 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:25,200 anti vaccine despite the overwhelming amount of data. 265 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,480 Someone who's educated in the topic and I have friends who are 266 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,320 educated in the topic and we may disagree on vaccines, but we can 267 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,600 have a conversation. We can say, well this study was 268 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,720 this, but it was underpowered and they know what that term 269 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,240 means or they didn't control for enough variables. 270 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,080 These are terms that we can discuss. 271 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,680 There wasn't long enough follow up. 272 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:49,920 It was retrospective, not prospective. 273 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,040 It wasn't randomized. These are terms that educated 274 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,440 people in medicine use when discussing data and published 275 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,160 peer reviewed literature. If you can't use those words and 276 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,920 you don't know what they mean, you need to sit all the way 277 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,360 down. KC means you need to sit all the 278 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,880 way down, like far away from the public. 279 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,640 And it's for me, this whole charade of KC means it just begs 280 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,760 the question, why does the Trump administration insist on hiring 281 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,600 under qualified people? I mean, look at Pete Hegseth, 282 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,840 look at Pam Bondi, look at Kash Patel. 283 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,880 Now look at KC means my husband's here right now and 284 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,760 he's mad because when I listed the people like the when I went 285 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,800 through the list of people who are not qualified for their 286 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,320 positions, I didn't specifically mention RFK Junior. 287 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,080 Thank you Ravi for reminding us another person who is grossly 288 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,120 under qualified would be RFK Junior. 289 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:52,280 He's just said so many lies that we have plentiful data to show 290 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,600 us that he's wrong. And people still stand by him 291 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,600 and believe him. And now I can't sway the entire 292 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,880 opinion of the public, you know, with a podcast episode. 293 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,240 And I realize that I can't and I don't want to talk about him 294 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,760 because it requires so much more of a nuanced conversation, 295 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,720 requires time. And a part of me feels like, you 296 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,120 know what, that ship has sailed. It was also a terrible decision. 297 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,560 But right now we need to focus on what's important and what we 298 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,160 can possibly affect in the immediate setting. 299 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,200 And that is the appointment of see means as the surgeon 300 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,800 general. I just I can't even like mention 301 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,240 his name because then I think of that image of him and Kid Rock 302 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,320 doing a workout in the sauna. And it just like this is what 303 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,880 the government has devolved into. 304 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,560 This is we are a laughing stock. Could you imagine being a world 305 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,840 leader or, you know, in charge of, of the health and well-being 306 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,840 of another country and seeing what the mockery that RFK Junior 307 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,360 has made of our, of our health, of American health. 308 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,280 I mean, it is literally embarrassing and it makes my 309 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,880 stomach turn. So that will be the last that I 310 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,760 say his name on this episode. This administration chronically 311 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,160 encourages and hires people into positions that they are under 312 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,840 qualified for. They don't have the education, 313 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,680 they don't have the training, they don't have the credentials. 314 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,800 And to me that's a very calculated effort because truly 315 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,520 I can give you the names of a couple of super MAGA trumpy 316 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,480 doctors who I may disagree with them wholeheartedly, but they 317 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,080 got through residency. They are board certified, they 318 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,000 have a medical license. They have practiced medicine. 319 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,400 He didn't choose somebody like that, right? 320 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,000 He purposefully chose somebody that doesn't meet any sort of 321 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,440 educational or licensure criteria to be a practicing 322 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,560 physician. And to me, it's just this 323 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,200 continued attack on educated people. 324 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,200 I mean, to me, it all falls in the same basket, The motivation 325 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,040 for why would you say that nurses aren't professionals? 326 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,440 I mean, it's astounding to me. Why would you say that? 327 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,600 And it's because he continues to attack data and science and 328 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,640 anybody who uses data and science to be who they are 329 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,760 professionally, he undermines them by saying you don't even 330 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,880 need data and science or licensure or board 331 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,880 certification. You don't even need to be 332 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,400 actually a practicing Dr. to be the surgeon general. 333 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,200 That's the that's like using a megaphone to send the message 334 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,760 that education is unimportant. That message will land with a 335 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,520 very specific group of individuals that he preys on 336 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,440 that are vulnerable to the misinformation that are easily 337 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:29,160 manipulated, that he can then pull in by lying to them into 338 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,160 his support system. And that to me is why he does 339 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,600 what he does. He intentionally chooses under 340 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,360 qualified people to draw in support from the least educated 341 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:41,000 people. And I'm just stating facts here. 342 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,680 If you look at where the demographics fall on who votes 343 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,280 blue and who votes red, especially in recent elections, 344 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,880 it is very much tied to college education, right? 345 00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:55,360 Well, if you further vilify people who have their education, 346 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:58,280 who have done the training, who have gotten the degrees, if you 347 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:03,480 make them the villain, it's easy then to draw in your voter 348 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,880 crowd. That doesn't fit the blue 349 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,560 demographic. So Casey Means is another pawn 350 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,080 in the game, right? What does he do? 351 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,680 He hires a lot of women who are under qualified and he's the 352 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,600 puppeteer. They owe their job and their 353 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,120 position to him because they would have never otherwise 354 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:21,880 gotten it. They don't qualify. 355 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,560 They don't have what it takes obviously, but he gave them the 356 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:30,080 job so they're loyal to him and they will do as he says and he 357 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,760 gets to be the puppeteer because he gave them their job that they 358 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,080 didn't deserve. So it's it all goes back to 359 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,800 suiting his position of power. It got a lot of messages from 360 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,160 you guys, a lot of forwarded videos and commentary on when 361 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,240 are you going to talk about KC means? 362 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,880 When are you going to talk about KC means and I didn't post about 363 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,200 it on Instagram because I think it deserved a full on 364 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,200 conversation. So I was saving it for a podcast 365 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,360 episode because there are so many reasons why this woman 366 00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:58,400 should not be our surgeon general. 367 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,920 And unfortunately, she's likely to find the support because she, 368 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:06,600 like everybody else who's in the majority that's going to affirm 369 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,800 her, they're all pawns in the game. 370 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,360 So what can we do about it, right? 371 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:14,880 What can we do to make sure that this woman does not become the 372 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,600 surgeon general? You need to contact your 373 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,200 senator, especially if they serve in the health committee. 374 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,040 I'm going to read this off my phone because I want to make 375 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,920 sure I get it right. You want to call the US Capitol 376 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:30,040 Switchboard at 202-224-3121. You want to ask to be connected 377 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,120 to your senator. You can also e-mail your 378 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:33,240 senator. You just have to go to their 379 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:35,600 website and they'll have an e-mail and you're going to say 380 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,920 I'm a constituent and I'm asking Senator so and so to oppose 381 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,640 confirming a Wellness entrepreneur who did not 382 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:49,360 complete any residency training as the next US surgeon general. 383 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,280 This role requires medical credibility, scientific 384 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,600 grounding and real public health leadership, none of which this 385 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,920 woman has if you live in Louisiana. 386 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,800 Senator Bill Cassidy, a medical doctor, chairs the health 387 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,080 committee and has significant influence over what happens 388 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,680 next. Call his office and make your 389 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,320 voice heard. Look guys, we're seeing changes. 390 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,440 We're seeing red districts flip to blue. 391 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,200 We are seeing people slowly wake up to the fact that they have 392 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,000 been lied to by this administration. 393 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,160 They have been manipulated and lied to. 394 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,560 So it's OK. It doesn't matter where on the 395 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,280 spectrum you fall, red to blue, purple, whatever green. 396 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,960 These positions have to be held by respectable individuals who 397 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,360 have earned their seat, who have earned the right to be there. 398 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,920 KC means in no capacity should be our Surgeon General. 399 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,400 She has 0 redeeming qualities. She has 0 qualifications 400 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,960 required. And she is, she's frankly A 401 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,600 shameful nominee. So let's all stand up 402 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,240 collectively agree that we should not support her as the 403 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,440 nominee for surgeon general. I can't wait to hear what you 404 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,440 guys think about this. There's anything more you guys 405 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,800 want to know about whether it comes to surgical training or 406 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,360 how one actually becomes a practicing physician? 407 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,640 Let me know in the comments. I will get back to as many of 408 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,000 you as possible, but that's what I got for this episode of Inside 409 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,920 Thoughts Out Loud.