Everyone welcome to the weathering effect.
Episode 68. Today's date is October 24 2020
and I am Duds or Duds versus known to the rest of the
interwebs and I'm Jimbo you may know me as gymba slice 23 and
this week we have a very special guest Minecraft developer from
Mojang. NG or ah, welcome to the show.
Hello. Hello.
Thank you for having me. It's our pleasure.
So those of you guys who want more content, we did have a
pre-show and it was filled with a lot of fun questions, so it's
funny to introduce again. I thank you again for having me.
Thank you again for me here. Oh yeah, probably one more
intro. Yeah, we've tried to figure out
a way to work that out a little bit easier but the it just seems
easier to do through interest. Now it's fine.
Fine. So we'll start off with the
telling everyone what it is. You do at Mojang and a little
bit about yourself. Sure.
Yeah. I am part of the gameplay
developer. It's always a bit complicated
because Mojang is weird compared to other game companies but my
title is gameplay developer. The best way to describe this to
people is Agnes is my direct manager.
I work in Agnes's team right together with king bee dogs Cojo
and mr. Heinrich what?
We are in charge of is sort of Minecraft, vanilla instance, in
a way like sort of the the updates are coming to it and the
content has been added and really the like a lot of my job
is, for example, answering questions for other teams
sometimes, right. It's a lot of like, what is
Minecraft vanilla? Really?
That's that's a lot of our team job more specifically.
We work on the next update, right?
We designed the next updates and Most of the time, we also
developed a new content. We have the Java team in the
Bedrock team, which are sort of like the engine teams right
there. Do a lot of needy greedy stuff
in the engines improved, like last stop.
They did a lot of improvements to the rendering, for example,
that was 100% them and not us the bedrocks.
I did a lot of interesting things for creators, and
upgrading like the, the integration for creating new
mobs, and you a eyes and stuff like that, those things are
really not us doing. To them.
We are born chart of the new biomes that are going to the
were in the another update or the new mob, Kingpin dogs did
the amazing Strider, right? And this sub date were working
on the features themselves. Like, I have been leading the,
the xolotl and the goats and a few things like that can our
chief of course. Gotcha before Mojang, I was, I
was doing a lot of things. I was a freelance, so I did a
lot of things but I had a Game Dev Studio that I Founded with a
childhood friend, that is actually still live.
We have a mobile game out there floating hopefully, we'll get
back to update to get some day when I'm less busy.
Oh, cool. Nice.
I also developed Minecraft maps for an amazing nonprofit
organization called games for peace which basically brings
kids from areas of conflict to play Minecraft together as a way
of bringing those two sides together pretty much.
It's really amazing. That's awesome.
Yeah. That's cool.
Yeah, right now I also I try to communicate a lot with the
community in different ways, so that's like being here, for
example, and thank you for allowing me to communicate with
the community that through your platform.
Thank you for showing up because we have been seeing you
everywhere for like the last out of oil to three weeks and it's
been awesome. Right, I'm really trying
exactly. I'm really trying to do that.
I want to be someone commented on my Twitter.
I think a few days ago something like you're the most.
Assessable something, I think developer something that I know
and I really, I'm really striving for that.
I want people to feel free to contact me.
He doesn't mean like I don't always get to answer everyone
because it's a lot but I'm really trying to be accessible
and be there for people and provide opportunities for people
to contact. Right.
I think that's super cool so I do that a bit on my twitch
Channel as well. I stream pretty much every week.
Yeah. Trying to communicate with
people reading Twitter, stuff like that.
That's great. So far, the only one I have
known. That's done something like that
is sliced lime. Mmm.
And he's been playing. I follow some of his stuff and
he'll mention some background stuff every now and then, but he
really does focus on content which has been great.
So the fact that you're trying to be even more, accessible is
like, okay, so yeah, Mojang saying reach out, talk to us.
Give us, give us some feedback, I love it.
Yeah, slice. Slice has been a content creator
or even before he joined motion and I think he's really it's
important. I haven't And talk to him about
it so I don't know, but I think it's important for him to have
his community, sort of separate, right?
It's like yes, job is Mojang but he wants to be really a content
creator. He does amazing content on
YouTube and twitch so it's really different, right?
Mostly, I started my twitch Channel, really, I actually
didn't start my teacher. What I did is that I was sitting
on a Discord with a few friends of mine that are friends way
before motion, right? Just friends who like, to play -
Together. And obviously there were the
first people. How told about about me getting
this job because we're so excited about doing it and I
actually, I announced it to them during life of last year was
really cool. We had a live event where we
watch together and in the break, I was like, guys, I have some
news and it was so cool. Awesome.
Yeah. It's big news.
So I actually started streaming just because they were like now
that your emotional sir. Can we like talk to you a bit
and ask you questions? And we are all invoice, but they
wanted like it was like 50 people in voice and it didn't
work. So I just started streaming in
that channel in that Discord. And it was purely because we
wanted a comfortable way of talking that way and then people
started being like, no, you have to do it on Twitch, you have to
do it on Twitch and stuff like that.
And then I just again every step that happened.
It was almost not me doing it, but it was always me trying to
talk to people and then the most logical thing to do is open a
twitch or right now, I Have a Discord.
It was purely a people were four months or, like, open at this
popular. So, like, I don't need to do the
sword, I don't want to discard, I don't know how to manage this
part and finally, I did it because there was a stream where
I wanted to play with some people watching.
I want the viewers to be able to jump in and play and I needed
somewhere to talk to them. So I open the discard, it just
happens every time I won a comfortable way of talking with
people. It's been quite weird.
Yeah, I'm excited for it. I'm hoping that I'll be able to
make your sometimes because this seems like it's going to be a
more regular event. I remember I was in your
speedrun, you did a couple days ago watching, stop the yeah, in
the the weird scene. Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, if I can't make the regular time, definitely make
sure you have vod's turned on because I'll be jumping in there
watching those, for sure. That's cool.
Yeah, I have a turn-on, I also am probably gonna again open the
YouTube not because I wanted to because so many people wanted to
see the The event that was yesterday.
The intentional game design. Oh yeah.
It's gonna be like there is a vault but it's going to
disappear in like 2 weeks because that's how twitch works,
right? So I wanna yeah.
Have a place for people to go to see it.
That's great. That's an excellent thing to
have. Yes, if anyone wants to watch
who robbed, you can find him everywhere.
Hopefully, no. I hopefully, it's tough here.
I don't, I don't want to manage so many places.
Yeah, but yeah, maybe if it's like it was yesterday.
So I don't even have a YouTube yet but if I open it like today
or before this episode comes out, I'll give it to you and you
can put it in the notes or whatever.
Definitely yeah for sure. All right, but this is the part
where we normally talk about stuff.
We've done this week, me and Jimbo are not as high up in
important right now. How about you is there anything
you've worked on this week that you can talk about, without
spoiling anything workwise, I've been working on well actually
now I can talk about stuff because you know about so many
features it's awesome. I was barely talking working on
the goats and axolotls recently, the goats is a lot purring.
I'm working together with this awesome Bedrock, developer
called Alexander Osmond and a Nikolas.
There's a few Bedrock, the vocals.
Awesome over there working together on them and X are
those. I'm I'm also trying to figure
out like a bit more of the details like in life.
We showed a lot of the broader Strokes of ideas that we have
right? Like The playing that mechanics
and, and the rejecting mechanical stuff like that.
So I'm trying to figure out nail down, exactly how they're going
to work and values and stuff like that outside of work.
I've, I've haven't slept and and than anything else other than
work on the crazy event that was yesterday.
I've been planning this thing for months.
I'm sure you had some big names there.
Yeah, I've been work. I have no idea how that happened
either. By the way things just keep
happening to me. I was working on this for about
two months now and I reached out to a few.
Awesome creators that I've seen in the past showing interest in
game design of Minecraft like cops.
And for example, is a very, he has a lot of very interesting
thought-provoking videos, right? About the game design of
Minecraft. Yeah.
Etho is always have his a long time part of the community.
And he always had really interesting ideas Exuma has his
old other channel talking about game design and Echo Soldier has
this really special way of playing Saying right?
That he's very connected to the caves and I really wanted to see
his opinions on the new update. So it was it was fun.
But it was, it was stressful as I said I like I don't know if
you got, you said you got to check it out for like a few
minutes but there was this thing where I changed cameras a few
times through it. And I actually had like
Transitions and like crazy professional stuff and I have no
idea. Like I am not a streamer, I'm
just occasionally streaming like I have How to do any of it and
the last few weeks were extremely stressful, we'll both
at work, but both with setting everything here up and I just, I
was so lucky to have these amazing people joining me that I
felt like I cannot let them down, right?
This cannot be sub-optimal. It has to be really good.
Yeah, well I think just you being there and being as open as
you are is enough like I don't think you need to worry about
the techniques and all that stuff because people are there
for you and we see that with a lot.
Lot of live streamers is. Yeah, the content is great and
everything but it's really the person behind the content they
want to be there with. Yeah I'm getting that as the
more I do it. I think that's very true and I
said I was there for your speed run and you were doing great.
You understood the majority of how the streaming thing works
and the more you do it, the more you get fine techniques down and
stuff like that. But hmm, yeah, I can't wait to
go back and watch the vaad where you had everyone.
I hate that I was busy yesterday and I missed it.
It it's cool. It was also like a short notice
right? When we announced this event
like a week before it happened, it there's a lot of learning
there for me, for sure II. Completely agree though.
That people are there for the person.
I'm specifically for the flashing colors.
I just, I feel like everything I'm doing.
I'm really trying to be professional about it.
Oh yeah, right. I expect that from the people
with me and I expected for myself.
And that's why I wanted to make it better for next time.
Hopefully, there will be a next time.
Yeah. Yeah.
If it makes you feel better. You don't have to be super
professional here. Okay.
Thank you. We're just a couple guys.
Talking Minecraft. That's all this show is.
Yeah, that's how it's Phil's. That's good.
Those very nice and relaxed. Yeah.
But goats. So you had talked about the
playing dead feature and I do understand you're talking about
the ox, a lot oils because they obviously do that.
Dead to regen Health. At least that's what we saw from
the 117 preview. Yeah, the first thing I thought
of was the goats that faint like, if you scared.
Yeah. So I'm just throwing that out
there. That's an idea.
Yeah, when I like, like half a year ago or something, when I
sat down for the first, think about, what does goats mean in
Minecraft? I had this huge least, I spent
like entire day just watching those videos on YouTube and I
had a whole list. List of sounds like a great day.
It was, it was funny. I mean, on the like fourth hour
of seeing goats screaming and fainting it gets old but it was,
it was really interesting for me to start.
Sort of there is a thing in Minecraft where you want to be
special and have a very unique thing that you put in the game.
But because when you're adding something that is from The Real
World, I want to make sure that people look at it and are like,
oh yeah, that's what's That read like they feel the familiarity.
Yeah, yeah. So I sat down and I made like a
list. I think there was like 20 points
on that list at least or something of whatever.
What does goat mean for different people and different
people around the world will say something completely different.
Yeah. And for sure, fainting was one
of them. They're all.
So, it's harder because goats is not actually one animal, there's
a, like, a family of animal. Yeah.
Well, goats right. PH one has a different thing.
Yeah, so fainting was definitely on that list.
I don't. I think it's going to happen
with these goats. It's just, we really try for
Minecraft to have a thing for each mob, right?
That's his thing. But if I make this goat, both
jump and RAM and faint and what was I eating everything?
That's also a thing. People think about goats, right?
They eat everything fabrics and stuff.
If you do everything, then we can't add another mob that does.
The other thing, it has unique other thing, okay?
So that's how we go. About it sort of thing.
I did want that I want to like maybe if you ring the bell next
to them they sort of fall down or something like that.
Like a strong sound. It is a cool idea.
Kind of like the Quark with the parent, you know, you put the
jukebox on. It starts dancing, yes?
Right. May be similar to that boy.
Here we go, super hidden Easter eggs.
I don't know if you could ever get it to Really Happen whenever
the warden does its yell. And it's in proximity of a
warden, it can faint nice because that's super hard to
get. To do it, right?
That's pretty cool. I'm sure.
I'll be scared to death first time.
I hear Warden to anyway, so I might faint.
Hmm. Roll over.
But then maybe the goat will help you write and ran the the
word in a way or something. Great, I'd be on.
I'd love to see a goat first Warden.
Everyone keeps talking about Iron Golem first Warden.
Let's see a goat. I'm sure I'm sure the video will
be out there somewhere. Probably.
Oh yeah. But let's jump into Jimbo what
have you done this week? I've done a little Work at my
megabase. It's starting to transfer all
the items for my which farm. So I am not very good at
Redstone this season, I'm trying to do my own Redstone and it
with the tight spaces it wasn't working out.
So I had a guest, come on, Magoo from our server, he knows all
about this stuff and what he was able to do with the shulker Box,
loader and item filters. And there's just some guys out
there that just know their stuff and he's one of them, we were
Able to pull it off. I think he actually got the
Shocker box loader, the filter in the output done.
Before I was done, running the water stream.
So Magoo is a bit of a genius when it comes to that.
Yeah, quite a few of them out there that are that good
Magoo's. Definitely one of them, just
pushing YouTube content, pretty much.
That's what I've been doing. That's about it.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I got a little off schedule and
I wanted to get my videos back on schedule and I really pushed
hard this week to get stuff done.
I built two Farms this week, the raid Farm being one of them.
I didn't understand like how precise raid Farms have to be,
to get to function correctly, without dying.
I've no idea how weird Farm works.
You mean like on a, on a Pillager output, or what?
So the one I built is one that you have a villager down around
ocean level and then you build your killing chamber, almost 95
blocks above it and then about 20 blocks above that.
You have the spawning platform and if that villager isn't lined
up correctly because I think a village now is a villager
acclaimed bed and a claimed workstation.
Yeah, yeah. So if all those aren't lined up
directly you'll get spawns that are off just a little bit and
all those things are now coming to kill you because they're not
spawning in the spot. You need them to drop it.
I see yeah. So luckily I had a couple totems
of a dying Jimbo that I was like, you know what?
I better hold on to this and I think Jim but you saw I had the
post-mortal achievement pop up. It was like I'm gonna die.
Yeah, I noticed. Yeah.
But other than that I actually played in Creative a lot this
week, which is something I don't normally do.
I'm normally grab, whatever supplies I have around and I'm
just going to build what I can build with what I have.
But yeah, this week I kind of chilled out and creative and
designed a new building that I thought look really cool.
I designed a modern building with stripped logs Grindstones
and like andesite, which I was like shouldn't do modern.
But it did, it was great. You just think like polish and
the site or just send the site. No.
Just regular anti site. Interesting.
At their I take that back there is like there are polished
stares at a couple polish blocks in there.
Hmm. Just for a change of texture.
I think I've got Spruce leaves thrown everywhere as bushes and
stuff that's pretty happy with it ice.
I forget that I can go into creative.
And I have the unlimited palette in front of me which is great.
I'm building this huge Tower right now and I don't know how
to detail it and if I were to detail huge Tower not like it
that's going to be miserable. So I am very tempted to just go
and creative and figure something out before he can
place in anything. It's always a smart idea.
Yeah, no II. Do a lot of, like, pixel art
things, statues, text, and stuff like that.
So I always do them in At first, but I like what you said that's
about the building with what you have, right?
Because I feel like so many people get to the point where
they have chest up on the chest of stuff.
Yeah. And they have no idea what to do
with it but I'm still missing the concrete or terra-cotta they
want, huh? Just look at what you have,
right. It's really cool that you're
designing. The build around the necessity
of the blocks you have. That's really cool to me.
Yeah, I wanted to do like a challenge somewhere of for this
month. I'm going to finish everything
that is in my chest like gonna have Each s, right.
It's gonna be an interesting challenge, like how do you use
so many seeds and and signs and random slabs and like stuff like
that is going to be really cool, okay?
Oh yeah, I can't wait to see that it does sound fun.
You're talking using when I had I was going to go gray concrete,
but then I realized I had terracotta and a lot of die.
So I was like, you know what, cyan terracotta is actually a
grayish color, right? And I ended up going with that
over gray concrete because I just didn't have the gray died.
That's great though. Yeah, that that gives a lot of
variation, right? Eve everyone uses the same
blocks over and over. That's interesting, I think.
Yeah but let's go ahead and jump into the news because we have a
decent amount and really want to get to the questions and I'm
looking at the time stamp and it's like holy cow, we gotta go,
there's this week, Java addition is moving house.
They are going to have you. I don't know if it's migrated
accounts or just create a new account to Microsoft.
It's a migration. I don't know.
Again, I don't know the specifics myself.
It's the entirely different department, but yeah.
It's going to have the same. The thing that is most important
to remember, regardless of how the process is going to be the
process going to be annoying. That's true.
All of us are aware of it. It's sort of the necessary evil.
The thing to remember is that nothing is going to change other
than how you login that's it. It is still going to have the
launcher. Yes.
You're gonna be logging in
through the launcher just with a different account.
Yeah, I'm okay with that. Some more information on that is
that will get an email stating with your Obviously Mojang
account how to do the migration and when to do the migration,
because not everyone's doing it at once, it's going to be done
at batches so we don't overload the system or whatever and plus
you get a cape when you do it, which is awesome because I've
been wanting a cake forever. I just can't make it to a
Minecon. Yeah, I've never been to munch
on my first-ever Cape was the motion Cape.
Yeah, but that's the most important Cape.
Let's face it. Yeah, well, I'm kind of excited
now that the logo is changed, right?
And we gonna get a new cave. Am I going Of the ogk promotion.
I'm super excited about that, I don't know, I'm not the
downswing anything, I don't know.
I'm just saying baby in the future will change games.
The new logo, we'll keep an eye out.
They did mention also, if you have two accounts, a lot of
YouTubers have, you know, a cam account that they use, you will
need separate emails for each account.
I kept getting that question. Can we support two accounts into
one? I mean, I get why that's
convenient, but it doesn't make any sense to me, right?
You have Two accounts right now. Yeah you're going to need right.
I mean it's think about the backend of developing something
that joins accounts through, like the same email and you to
validate that they stem really the same person.
He's not trying to steal someone else's account.
Like it's it seems weird to me from a technical standpoint to
merge those accounts. I understand that usability
thing, but yeah, it's weird. I didn't even know that was
something people thought about. I've got two different emails
for my cam account and my main account, exactly in Java, you
have the same, right? Yeah yeah Jimbo you got some 116
for pre-release 2 News. Yeah there's some changes in one
16.4 pre-release to when logging into Minecraft or Microsoft
account players blocked and account are now also blocked at
the game and account restrictions are now respected a
button to open the link, a link to a accessible guide can now be
found in accessibility options screen.
Also some social interaction changes The status of the player
is now listed below their name on the social interaction
screen. A new tab is available available
to filter by block filtered by block players.
In the social interaction screen chat for Block, players is also
hidden and Realms invites block, players are hidden make sense,
nothing special we're off. You said you didn't really work
with 116 for right now so you have anything to add on or is it
just kind of straightforward what it seems to me.
Yeah, it's a lot of work on the social window thing, social
interaction screen, and it's stuff that are like, trying to
connect the in-game from the outgoing, right?
So it's not only restricted to name game, which I think is
nice. Yeah, this is, this is mostly
the, the Java team working on this.
We're trying to build to parity, and have a player's F safety on
both platforms. Like was Bedrock already.
Have some players safety features.
Yeah, that's pretty much what these are.
The thing I'm going with it seems straightforward doesn't
seem like it's going to affect the game other than help.
So exactly that's how it should be moving right along.
We're going to go ahead and go to our Discord.
Add this week's just core dad is from Stone figure.
Take it away. Howard Webb's, this is Stone
figure. I'd like to invite you to the
weathering effect. This court, it's a great place
to talk to other fans of the podcast.
And the show's creators is also the only place you can vote for
block of the week. The votes have been very
closely. So stop on by and say hi.
I would love to see you there. All right.
Thanks again, Stone figure for the Discord.
And if you guys want to do a disk or dad just email or
message me Jimbo Carl will hook you up with a script.
Like I said, we've been needing new script readers.
So if you want to do that just let us know.
We'll get you hooked up. But also speaking about a
Discord segue here, Discord is the only place you can vote for
block of the week. Our next segment this week, we
asked you guys to vote between grindstone stonecutter and Blast
furnace and the winner. This week is Blast Furnace.
Congratulations blast. Yeah.
Now, the votes are a little
skewed in the Discord. Mmm, it says, there's a tie, but
we went ahead and stopped the vote.
When Carl said, Carl said charge, so respect the Carl.
Yeah. The blast furnace had 21 votes.
Grindstone with 19 and the stonecutter with Mine is it was
close pretty close vote. Yeah what about that?
Blast Furnace. Few things on the blast furnace.
It is crafted with one regular furnace five iron, ingots and
three smooth Stone. It's smelt sores and metal
armor, and tools similar to furnaces, but at twice the rate
serves as the armors job site block, also must be mined with
a. Pickaxe can be found naturally
in villages and when active, it emits, a light level, Of 13.
Nice. Okay, so here comes the hard
part. How do you improve the blast
furnace? Because it's already a very
specialized tool in the game and the first thing I went to was
smelts and I want to wave smokes and faster.
Yeah, that's a big one. Granted, I think that's more of
a kennel or something like that, but I don't know.
So, I was talking in the pre-show or maybe it was before
the pre-show that I read for three hours outside on.
What is a blast furnace in real life?
What do they do? And how could that relate to the
game? And honestly, Mojang is already
kind of nailed it there. There's not a lot of things you
can do, other than I had the idea of creating a grade of fuel
because that's something we have in real life and we already know
that things like lava buckets can burn more items or smelt,
more items. Coal blocks.
Do better than just Cole kelp blocks do better and stuff like
that. And so I had the idea of maybe,
if you use some of these higher grade fuels, I don't know where
you would draw the line, but maybe you can get a better
yield. So like, if your smelting
weapons, or tools or armor instead of just coming with the
Nugget, maybe you can get a full on Ingot or maybe if you're
doing multiple items, you can get a full block.
Maybe there's a way to store it until you reach full block
status. I'm not sure.
Hmm there's were just ideas. Blast furnace was hard guys.
Yeah, it's a hard block. I think even motion.
I wasn't there when they're doing it, but I think even will
join got struggled with estimate right, because I think
originally in the snapshots you couldn't smelt Metals other than
me in this or something like that, right?
Like, it was taken out of the furnace.
I think I still might be. No, I think it's back in there
now. No, you can you can do
everything in the furnace now and I think that was a good
decision furnace. He's a generalist, right?
It's just yeah. In.
General Motors young moved to instead of taking stuff away,
like for example with the stonecutter as well, there was a
version where you couldn't do things in the crafting at all,
only there. And instead there were there
were like, you can do everything in crafts, you can do everything
with a furnace but it's a bit better if you do it with these
new blocks, right? And I think that's the right
choice there. Yeah, yes, I was.
I was thinking about. Yeah.
We talked about in the pre-show, I was thinking about it.
Like, the only thing I wanted for a long time, okay?
Okay. So building in Minecraft, that's
like one of them most integral systems in the game, but he
doesn't really have a lot of consequences, right?
Like you can build a dirt house and you can build a huge mansion
and both of them. The game is like, I don't mind,
right? I don't care if you build a dirt
house or and everyone feels like that's okay, because that's how
it's always been. But if I told you that, Or like
yeah. Well you build a castle cause
you want a fancy Castle, right? But what if I told you that a
wood pickaxe and the enchanted diamond pickaxe do the same and
you just do the diamonds and enchantments because you want
the fancy pickaxe. He would be like, no way.
No one would do that. Right, right.
Right. So, I think, I think more
mechanics that take the building into account in an interesting
way, would be cool and I thought that maybe furnaces or
specifically the last permits can be affected by how you build
it. Like if it's surrounded by lava
in some interesting way or maybe there's specific like bricks
make, you could build. It's like a multi-block
structure, not even not like in modded, whether it's combines to
one block. It's just, it's stays the
different blocks, but the different blocks affect, how
it's melting, that could be interesting, right thing.
Another thing I thought of was like, with your idea, I think
even without the the few changes, just saying if you put,
so right now, if you put an hour, Armor piece in a furnace,
you get one Ingot and that always felt like not enough to
me. What if that stays like that?
Because the furnace is like not good with armor.
But if you put the armor in Blast Furnace, you actually get
proportional to how broken it is.
So you'll you can get even like I don't know like 30, it's
right, because it's almost fully repaired or something like that.
Yeah, I think would be interesting, that'd be awesome.
Yeah, that sounds like a good. It fix, I'm working on this raid
farm right now. This came to mind because I'm
getting so many iron axes. Hmm, and I have no use for iron
axes. So I'm just throwing them in a
smelter and getting the little iron nuggets from it.
If there was a way I could get more back from it, then it's
like, well maybe I don't need an iron farm because I have this
raid Farm that's producing iron as a bias product.
Exactly. Yeah.
I love. I love that.
You have options of which Farm do you want to get, right?
I don't necessarily We want to make specifically rate foreign
stronger because they're, they're hard to make which I
like, but they're also very strong.
He's just the most strong thing in the game.
Pretty much, which is totems right.
Well, arguably. But the farm also tries to kill
you. So, they're sad true.
That's true. But yeah, in general, I do like
that. You have different ways of
creating a farm for whatever you want, so that's cool.
Yeah, no. I, I love block of the week just
because it makes Me think, like, okay, now I get to try to
improve my favorite game. Somehow how would I do it?
Yeah. For sure.
That's that's my favorite part of the job.
You also learned a lot about blast furnaces.
Yeah. Out of the way.
Dual gas Chambers are so much more efficient, guys, get on it.
I didn't have much of a fix. A lot of times, I build a super
smelter, you know, with like, 30, 32, furnaces, or 64
furnaces. I liked it.
Make it divisible by 8. Just so it's easier to smelt
Stacks. That, pretty much takes care.
A lot of items at once it's a lot quicker.
So, I haven't played much with the blast furnace.
A don't have much of a fix for it yet.
The blast furnace is definitely one.
I don't use a lot. I use a smoker a lot because
usually I'll do a cow farm and I'll have the output of the cow
Farm hooked up, directly to a smoker because I know that's
going to be faster and more efficient I should say more
because it's the same efficiency.
It's just quicker. Yeah.
Which is more efficient for my time.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
The blast furnace gets overlooked for me.
And the one instance where I think I would use it more that
the knot is just melts and just because I do cook a lot of
glass. Yeah.
I think it's mostly, it's a
block that is mostly for players who don't have huge smelter,
he's right. Yeah.
And you have a smooch melt or you don't care how long it takes
because regardless of how long you're going to, you're going to
get it in the size of the size of the something like instead of
getting one you'll get. 16 every time or 64 every time it's like,
well, this is taking too long. I'm going to add eight more
furnaces to make it faster. Hmm, exactly.
If it's automated you don't mind but when you eat some of them
made when you just want to cook like a few of them, he does
really matter to you. So I think it's a bit it's a
block that a bit appeals more to that sort of player which is
okay. Anything.
Yeah. Definitely helps out early game
for sure to MMM. Yeah, I've seen speed Runners
not speedrun is but like Like men hunt sort of thing where
it's it is speed, but it's not about that every second people
use smokers because it is worth your time if you can cook your
food a bit quicker. Yeah.
Alright. Let's get into the main topic,
which is just absolutely filled with questions from the Discord.
Again, another reason for you guys to join or discard.
I feel like a used car salesman every time.
I say that, Don't think any less of you guys.
It's just the easiest way to talk to you.
So if you don't hear your question either it's a question
we weren't allowed to talk about because let's face it.
Some you guys ask questions that were digging a little too deep
you know what I'm saying or we just didn't have time to it.
We're going to try to fit as many questions and at a time me
and Jimbo have actually saved our questions for the pre-and
Post show. So if you'd like to hear
questions, we asked that's a patreon thing.
It's a dollar a month, gets you you a pre and post-show that's
an extra 20 minutes each episode so you can go there.
But I'm going to read question then Jimbo you read question and
we'll just go through the list. We're off you can go into as
deep and explanation as you want or you can just say yes or no or
no or just a hate don't you ask me that question again?
Either one, this it's fun time. I created the immune a few weeks
ago that I keep answering on Twitter.
Every time someone asked me a question.
Some of they can answer. I post a meme.
It's a villager that has big. It has a mustache is added a
message to him and it has the word, mayhaps on it.
And I just imagine the Villager being like, mayhaps and that's
it right on the voice. That's my answer would I can't
answer. Okay.
So I'm going to find this Meme and that's my new.
My new meme I'm going to be using.
That's awesome. We sure.
Alright, we're going to start with dirty blond 655.
They ask Uuuuuugh will we lose ogk structures like mine, shaft
Ravine, spawners Etc, in the cave update, that's a good
question. No, for sure.
No, we were not going to lose anything in general.
In Minecraft we have a very strong philosophy of respecting
old word worlds. I feel like a lot of players
have been playing in the same world for like years, right.
Even Agnes herself has like a world.
She's been playing on for like eight years now but we always
very much wanna respect Old words and all players things
could maybe change or be updated and things like that but never
never lost cool. Easy enough answer.
Yeah. That brings me to a question
from kitty cat. One will Dungeons and spawners
be updated. Yeah, that's a strong mayhaps.
I can't really answer that. I can say very strongly that we
are considering everything. When we, when we update the
section of the game, like the underground, we're looking at
that, right? It's not that we forgot to other
people. Some people have been not very
pleased that the Nether fortresses have not been
updated, right? And it's okay if you, if you
start to say well it's really, it's fair to have that opinion.
It just may be sure that you don't think that we forgot.
We don't forget things like that.
We spend a lot of time talking about all the features of Who
currently in the game in the We're talking about and should,
what should we update? Why shouldn't be update?
Sometimes we say this structure is maybe it can be even better
but it's good. As it is like, it's fun as it
is, it serves its own purpose and we rather give you more
other things. And that's the main point
people. Sometimes they're like, oh, why
didn't you update this? And then really, the question I
want to ask them is, what would you give up?
Would you be like, yeah, I'm OK, with giving up the Axolotl for
Updated nether fortress plus who doesn't updates, but yeah,
right. And, and even if you would be
able to give even if you're saying, I don't even like the
Excel. Oh, it doesn't mean that a lot
of other players don't do like it, right?
So there is it's always, it's not a question of what we're
going to do is the question of what we're going to do first,
right? And we don't have all the time
in the world so that's how it is.
Yeah, I got 2 inches that one Axolotl is King.
Nobody touch the baby lizard. Exactly.
And two, if you really look at it, the I've already forgot the
name of it. The nether fortress.
Geez note. The nether fortress has changed
just by the biomes that spawns in like another Fortress in a
warped forest or in a Soul. Sand Valley are super dangerous
because all the spawns are like right there, right?
For sure. Yeah, they kind of did change a
little bit, so I'm throwing that one out.
Even though that was off topic and I definitely agree with you
as though cuz That's one of the things that are so good about
Minecraft, right? All the features, interact with
each other. So any feature changing actually
updates and make things more fresh for everything around it?
That's really cool. Yeah, so next question, we have
is from j.r. on man. Winning archaeological brush is
used, does it have to be used on blocks within the dig site?
Or can it be used to loot any random blocks?
Also there is speculation that a diamond and emerald block shown
in the video. We are just placeholders.
Is that true? Um I've been getting that
question a lot and mainly I just look at it as I did not explain
things well enough in live. Archaeology is a very complex
system the way I'm designing it. And yeah I should have been done
a better job next thing so that's good.
That's a great question and a great opportunity for me to
explain. First of all things are very
likely to change though, right? It's still work in progress,
even the things. Usually, when we show something,
we want that At least what was shown will be and then maybe
other things can change. But even things that were shown,
sometimes can still change because what's most important in
Mojang is the fun of the game, right?
And second thing, most important is our players, and our promises
for them, that is very important for us.
But still, the thing that has to win is is it going to be fun for
you in the game? So, if we have to be like, well,
we're cutting this feature that we promised because Don't think
it's actually going to be fun. It's going to be tough for going
to think a lot about it, but we might do it.
So just wanted to say that, that's not really related.
But yeah, for this question so far again.
And unless he changes in the future, my plan is that the
brush is going to work on a specific type of block, like a
few types of block. And it's going to work on those
blocks everywhere not just in a dig site.
Cool. But but what, when people ask
this question, what they're actually asking is do all.
Gravel dirt or whatever other blocks do.
All of them have the artifacts. That's a different question.
Hmm. The tool is a tool and it's
going to work but no only the sites are going to have the
special archaeology segments. Like, if you have, there's going
to be a few things you can find. But for example, if you find a
Shard of pottery Shard, it's going to be only where it makes
sense to do. Will be nothing a random dirt
block, got it, but there could be a case where other things
like, I don't know, I don't want to say something as people like,
yeah, the the emerald and diamond were a placeholder,
they're not necessarily going to be maybe there will be maybe
they won't, but there were a place holder holder, but for
example, not committee to any specific look.
But maybe you can find a bone sometimes, even if you brush a
random dirt, right? Or maybe this could be a new way
of getting clay. Some people don't like the fact
that Clay is not renewable, maybe it could be a really rare
brushing thing. I don't know, things like that.
Could be interesting. They would have to be think a
lot about how do you balance them, but yeah, the brush is not
going to be only in those six sites, but the archaeology
artifacts, the special things that are tied to the lower
those. I want them to be very rare and
I want them to be only when they make sense.
I want you, you know, how you go to a server?
And there are like 20 feet 200, 500 people there and pretty much
90% of them are Going around with full metal right year.
I don't like that. I think that if something is
rare, it should feel rare. Yeah.
Right. It should feel like each one of
the server has a bit of a different armor, right?
Or different thing. So I want this to be actually
where I want. I don't want that.
Someone cannot get anything right, but I wanted if you go to
your friend's house he has different shards maybe than you,
right? And you're like, oh my God, I
have these charts. You have these charge.
What sort of stories can we tell?
Fuck that. I really want that feeling.
Yeah, I agree with that and don't get me started on custom
armor. I think I soapbox that last
episode. I have a question though, when
it comes to the vase or vahz.' ever.
Are you going to be able to like, craft the plane version?
I know you need shards wherever to decorate it, and make it look
good. But like, say I just wanted to
plane one kind of like, a flower pot to use as a decoration.
Well, that be a craftable thing or do you have to go out and
find it? Still, it hasn't been announced
yet. I can say that I do.
See any reason. Why not?
Currently, I think it. We can be cool to have just a
part in your house. Will put that as up for
consideration. Yeah.
For sure.
Mayhaps. Yeah.
Yeah, if positive may have, I do have an idea just for like, oh
no, this speculation of the, oh, the diamond and emerald blocks
Jimbo's think that you grabbed from what if like you go to
Brushy Brush the dirt or gravel, You get a diamond or emerald
block, but it's like the old-school texture and you can't
really use it as a diamond because it's been buried.
Think that'd be pretty neat. Yeah, a lot of a lot of the
comments on Twitter are wanting references to Old Minecraft sort
of thing. I even saw someone, let's do a
reference to the Aether Mod, right?
Or to the Herobrine, pedestal thing with a golden.
The dirt and fire. I think those are really cool,
right? I am part of that.
That I want the nostalgic feeling of it.
I just, I don't know if I don't know if it fits, like there is a
reason was those, why those textures are not in the game
anymore, right? Hearts decided they don't fit
the game and bringing them back this way.
I think, I think might not work with the Arts team, okay, I
don't know. It is a very cool idea, right?
Having having on the contrary to that having a painting, like in
the one of the shards that has that in, it could be
interesting, right? It It could be interesting as a
reference, but if I give you those blocks back, are we
allowing people to rebuild the programmer art, in normal art,
right? It's kind of, it's a weird
conflict there, right? Yeah, okay.
And, and people with the programmer art, do they see both
as the same? Yes, right.
They don't know if it's ancient or not.
It's it's it's a lot of interesting questions.
I really love the idea, but I'm not sure how to do it
specifically and I'll well I will consider it, it's really
cool. All right.
Jimmy you turned. Yeah, usually I read.
Whatever question has the least amount of words, but I'll just
go down the line here. I have a question from Rebel,
JC. He asks in Minecraft live, it
was mentioned that you took every part of the player base
into consideration when coming up with the features for the
caves and cliffs update. What are some of the challenges
you have found trying to create and update that appeals to
everyone? That is a really good question.
I want to stress just one Point before I answer that, I don't
remember every word we said, but I don't think we said we took
every part of the player base, we were trying to take as much
as we can from it. I don't want us to like we did
not be like, yeah, we nailed it. We looked to everyone, like, I
don't think that's true. Also, I would never say that
because the player base is so massive, we were talking about
it recently. That let's say, let's say you're
like I am saying I want to add this feature and only 1%.
The word playerbase won't love it.
That seems fine, right? You're like fine, it's just one
percent and then you're like, wait, wait, wait, 1% is multiple
dozens of millions of people. It's like what?
Yeah. So I would never claim that I'm
doing something for all the playerbase, but I can claim that
we're working really hard to try to have something for, as many
of our players Styles. And and yeah, one of the biggest
challenges with that is even just just identifying them,
right? We all have our prep layer style
and we all have our friends layer Styles.
But sometimes you, you could get stuck in a bubble, right?
In like oh I feel like everyone plays like this and that's just
not true. Like I've talked to so many
people that think that everyone plays like this and I know for a
fact that many people don't like even if I tell you that we have
data, that's before the another update less than ten percent of
players ever visited the Other how shocked are you?
Yeah. Super right.
It sounds like everyone uses. Another everyone has never hubs
for example but that is really skewed by what you see and what
YouTubers show us and stuff like that.
So it's important to try to, I like identify.
Oh, Agnes brought up. We had a meeting recently about
players house. I've just brought up a very
interesting player style that I don't even know myself.
I never met anyone playing like that, but he was, she knows a
lot of them. He she, we called it, How did
she call it playing Minecraft? Almost like a doll house where
you build your dog house and he has a name and sort of a story
and you have the car with her name and you have the Villager
and they have a story, connecting them and each one of
them has their own area playing it almost like a dollhouse,
right, huh. That is is it player style?
I-i've never encouraged myself. I know a lot of people who like
to name their path and stuff, but that's not the main part of
their game and it's really interesting to think of that.
How Of the features that we're creating is nice for this player
style, right? Yeah.
Let's sort of the challenge trying to understand all the
players Arts out there, more zoom as many as we can, and then
try and go over them, and make sure that the object were
making. This is another important point.
We are not trying to make an update that appeals to everyone.
We're trying to make an update that has something for as many
people. Yeah, right?
Not every feature needs to be good for everyone.
That's impossible. It will make boring Bland.
And features. Yeah, I want to have a feature
for as many players styles to enjoy.
You're like you're like yeah I don't care about the warden.
That's fine. Don't ever go.
There you have this other thing instead to enjoy.
Yeah. Enjoy your Clay Pot.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Archaeology is a great example.
People, people keep bringing it up that archeology is not for
everyone and I'm sitting there, like, yeah, we agree, we agree.
It's not a feature for everyone, but it is a feature for me is
one of my favorite features so far.
Agnes, Very similar player in that style.
I think as well people who really like Laura things,
creating a story in the world. Yeah slow methodical thing.
For example, a lot of people hate well we call it ground
grinding in other games, but in Minecraft I just call it relaxed
Ali collecting resources, like I have days where I don't have any
patience to build big creative fight, anything like that.
I just want to go and dig send for four hours.
Or dig in a cave caving in four hours.
Like, I don't want to thank. I just want to relax and go
through the motions Minecraft is really meditative in that way.
Yeah. And I don't think that's a
negative thing, right? Yeah.
So I think it's going. I'm going to have a lot of fun.
Just brushing away in a archeology site, slowly and
carefully and yeah, yeah. A lot of times, I find caving in
the resource Gathering therapeutic sometimes.
Yeah. With the Minecraft music on.
It's kind of relaxing. Definitely agree.
And then I fall on the opposite end of the scale where I've so
short on time like most days I only get about an hour to do
anything where I'm like I need to automate everything.
So I have time to build. That is very fair, that is very
fair and I think that's also important.
I've been thinking, I mean I'm just passed 30.
I had 30 on the week of life. I reach 30 and I'm very
conscious of the fact that a lot of our players are older as
well, right? And you have a lot less time
when you're older. Usually we have a family or Have
work stuff like that and I do take it as a important thing.
Think about those players as well.
Hey, yeah. It is a balance though because
when you for example, if you make something too easy to farm,
sometimes people like me or Jimbo who wants to just go
collect it. Sometimes you feel like you can
like you're a bad player, right? It's like, it feels like the
game is telling, you know, just create this Farm.
Yeah. I understand that, right?
And it is a It is a balance to do that.
I think one that being said, I've been mining ton of sand for
glass lately and yeah, chilling out.
It's like I have about 45 minutes before I need to do
something. I'm going to hop on.
I'm going to grind some sand. You're right.
I throw a pod cast on or I throw just some calming music on and
go at it with my shovel to breaks.
Yeah, this one is from Fraggle Rock Says, how does Mojang go
about introducing new elements to make sure that a mob?
Or a drop is firstly desirable and secondly, not in unintended
consequences such as Opie or game-breaking that, that is one
of the biggest challenges, I think, for for Designing, for
Minecraft, it's just such a huge game.
It has so many different systems working together and sometimes
you add something in this side, and you just like it completely
break something. On the other side of the game,
when you were like, what just happened?
I don't know. I honestly, I Really, no, I feel
like I had in my previous game that I developed.
I had a lot of a problem with balancing there as well.
And there we had, we had like thousands of players not
millions or hundreds of millions, right?
Like in Minecraft. So he even there it was hard and
I was trying to learn more about that and read more like academic
materials about dancing and games, and I feel like there's
not enough of that yet out there.
It's I feel like it's something the The field of game design is
still learning how to do. There's a lot of interesting
points out there like League of Legends.
For example, have been doing balancing for many years and you
can see that there's a lot of challenges there.
What we usually do is we try, we have a few processes to sort of
catch when things are bad. First of all, we have our team
which is very knowledgeable about the game, right?
So we catch a lot of these things right off the bat.
Sometimes we would get an idea. From anywhere in motion.
Actually, we're very open to taking ideas from everywhere and
we will be like, yeah, but you didn't think about this system
that it will break, right? So having people that are really
into the game and play it so much that really helps.
But also it's like well the the snapshots right?
That's a huge help because we can have millions of people
playing it with us and and go like that and they're so
passionate and they're like, oh you did this and you didn't
think about this and stuff like that.
That and it's a huge help. I think that's, that's sort of
why things that are released in Mojang, are so consistently.
Good. I think because there's so much
feedback from the community that is integrated into that process.
Well then you guys again show so much care for this game.
It's not like you see these AAA titles and I don't want to speak
bad about developers because they're obviously working their
hardest but they're grinding titles out every year and you
keep hearing back. It's like, it feels like it's
copy and paste. It's like well the A have less
than a year to get these games out so I can feel it.
But you guys are spitting. Pretty big updates out once a
year now. And I think it helps that you
just absolutely love this game and you're so passionate about
it and you're listening to fans all the time.
It's great. Thank you.
Thank you, where we try. Yeah, I think it's very
important. That so many of the people
working on. It is just are Fanatics of this
game like II, feel like some sometimes parts of the
community. Most of the community, really
appreciate it but I think some parts of the community don't
always. Why's that, and they sort of
talk to us a bit like, oh, you don't you're ruining the game,
or you don't care. And I'm sitting there playing
everyday Minecraft for so many years and having this all the
team like so passionate, we sometimes we get into, like,
arguments that are so strong because we're so passionate
about this. Like, it's if you set through
one meeting of ours, you could never say again that we don't
love this game so much Yeah, it's I mean we have on my team
on the gameplay. We have two people that like
kiwi, dogs and co-ceo, both of them have developed mods for the
community for years with zero return, right?
There was no one either. They're basically doing the job,
they're doing now, like, working on Minecraft.
But with no earning, you cannot say that they don't love this
game more than anything. 100% agree.
I think it's very important. Yeah, the whole team at Mojang.
He has never once showed me anything less than full on
passionate, so I agree. Yeah, we definitely trust the
direction it's going. Yeah, though, we try to change
things every week, every single week change the game, we're
definitely excited that direction.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean ideas and stuff doesn't mean that it's broken like it
doesn't mean that it's bad, it just means.
Yeah, we can make it even funner.
Sure. All right.
We got two questions left. So Jimbo go ahead.
This one's from. Hi.
Hopes five. What do you wish folks knew when
it comes to player feedback? It seems whenever big update is
an ounce or changes made. We here Mojang doesn't listen or
something along those lines just fits perfectly in there.
Yeah. Which I feel isn't accurate.
So what can you share to help inform folks that you guys
really listen, interesting. I appreciate him saying that
he's feels, it doesn't occur at and I yeah I feel it's I feel
it's not a big part of the community.
I feel most of the Community do feel that we are working hard to
try to listen to them. Yeah, the cave update says a
lot, you know, just because people were asking for it a lot
that kind of says a lot, I'll go even better.
The fact that you're on this show, you created a twitch.
Now, you're creating a YouTube right to me, that shows enough?
Yeah. It's, I mean, I'm trying really
hard on myself and I know all of us are really trying to get as
much. Back on all different challenge
right where we have a meeting just recently, talking about the
feedback side and how we can make it even better.
So players feel that they are listened to and they want to go
there, right? And we always tweet things like
weekly. There's a few tweets from us
talking about stuff. We really, we love working on
this game. This way.
We love working out again with the community.
We love getting your feedback, but just the first part of the
question, what would I wish you guys new regarding the feedback
is First of all, I want for this to continue for us to be able to
keep talking. So openly we have to accept the
fact that not, we're not going to respond to everything because
if I felt I had to respond to every message.
I would lower the amount of messages on getting because I
have to write, I will block DMS and stuff like that because I,
it's literally impossible for me every time I'm reading a
message. I see the counter go up for more
messages coming in. Oh yeah.
It's like, how is that movie called with?
Jim Carrey gladly Bruce or something else Bruce, unlike the
previous homeowners Almighty. Yeah, so he gets like prayers
and then he refreshes their more prayers that he didn't answer to
right. That's it seems like that.
I keep the list keeps going bigger and bigger but as long as
you know that it's okay, if I don't respond and I might be
reading it but just don't have the time to respond.
That's great. Right?
Some things in be respectful and nice with it is.
Never respond to things, screaming at me and the ends,
like, oh, this must happen. And even if I know it, I don't
achieve it with malice. I don't say you're angry.
And I say you're passionate, but still, it's less nice to me,
right? So I rather answer the other 10
questions I have. That are way more respectful and
nice and considerate. Yeah.
So as long as you're nice and respectful, and you understand
that maybe sometimes I want answer and maybe sometimes I
will answer. That's, that's pretty much okay,
just go for it to it. I get so many messages.
As being like, I'm sorry if I'm annoying and you will probably
never read this and you don't need to do that.
Just just send the message in. I will try to answer as much as
I can. You're not annoying as long as
you're not knowing like asking a question is that annoying?
Yeah. You there are there are annoying
DM's but those are not it demanding Red Dragons.
That's annoying. You know what?
That's a good point, just a small thing.
Again, it's hard. The reason I don't Rob, because
this is because it's hard to know, it's gray lines, right?
And Sometimes people answering I also like younger or stuff like
that, so you can't really know the line.
So I'm okay if you're not sure if something is okay to ask ask,
it's okay. Okay, me personally, some people
don't want that but me personally, but I will say that
if something has been asked or commented and you saw even just
10, people say it recently, I probably saw it and if I haven't
responded, there's a lot of things like, for example, people
Sometimes suggest something that I know is coming and I can't
respond to it, right? Because that's like approving it
or something like that. So I think it's the same I see
on big twitch channels. It's okay to post a question a
few times because maybe someone maybe the streamer missed it.
So, it's okay to send me a question that already been sent,
because maybe I missed it. It's fair.
There's a lot of them if you see consistently that this question,
like, for example, before this update spamming cave update,
doesn't help. Yeah.
For sure. You can be sure.
Sure, that I know what the cable that is.
I know how many people wanted, for sure.
It just doesn't help to talk about it, so things like that.
I think there's a lot of the community that just spamming the
same phrases. Sometimes it's not even their
stretches. It's like copying a big
YouTuber. They heard it from right.
And yeah it's just it's not helpful.
Make sense. Yeah.
But if it's your unique idea and you feel passionate about it and
you want to send it in, always go for it, sure.
So what you're saying is I'm sending in every block of the
week from now. Sure, one pot one you're not
threatening me with one message a week.
Getting way more than that, it's fine.
But we're actually low on time and you kind of hit on the next
question again. So high hopes.
I hope that answered the question.
We didn't read on error, but I think that's going to do it for
the show. Like I said, we're already about
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