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Hey everyone. 
Welcome to the weathering effect

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episode 168. 
Today's date is February 15 2023

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and I am Duds or Duds versus 
known to the rest of the 

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interwebs and I'm Jimbo you may 
know me as Jimbo slice, 23 this 

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month. 
We have a guest co-founder and 

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CEO of bisect hosting. 
Max pod could convince take you 

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for joining us at. 
Thanks for having me guys. 

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Did he put your last name? 
No, it's fine. 

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It's Sounded like a butcher dip 
halfway through it. 

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I went oh God, I can't remember 
if it was right. 

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Yeah, we went over this ahead of
time so I had to make sure I get

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got that right. 
But before we start would you 

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mind telling us a little bit 
about yourself and what it is 

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you do? 
Yeah of course as you mentioned 

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one of the co-founders and the 
CEO of bisect hosting the CEO 

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Park, Hills stare, silly to say 
every time for some reason. 

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Hmm, But yeah, we're hosting 
company. 

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We started only In Minecraft 
servers. 

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But now we do like 21, total, 
different games. 

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Wow. 
And we have 19 locations at this

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point. 
When we started, we only had one

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Dallas Texas, and now we're kind
of all over the place. 

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Mmm, you're available in like 
Europe. 

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Yeah, us Europe, we have 
location in Australia. 

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We have location in Singapore 
and then in South America where 

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in Brazil? 
Nice. 

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Oh. 
Oh wow. 

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Yeah. 
So pretty much you know, the 

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matter where the customer lives,
they should be able to find a 

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server. 
That has a low latency for them.

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Nice, when I started the common 
craft SMP, we did the one in 

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Virginia. 
I think it was Ashland Virginia.

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Maybe, yeah. 
It was awesome. 

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We had no latency at all. 
It was great. 

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I loved it. 
And that's why when you, your 

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people had reached out about the
show, I I got excited because 

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I've always used by SEC and I've
loved every minute of them. 

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This is a good guest for me. 
This is this is an excitement 

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time for me. 
Yeah. 

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When they pass that information 
down to me, I was it's always 

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really exciting to see when you 
know, especially if somebody who

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had a server with us for a very 
long time because some customers

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definitely come and go, you 
know, some they might start a 

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server for their friends. 
Now, everybody gets lazy, kind 

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of Falls. 
It falls apart. 

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So being able to see or like 
coming across customers, or 

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somebody that's been using it 
for a very long time, is 

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actually. 
It's like really. 

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Exciting for me. 
I remember the first week I had 

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to serve with you guys. 
I actually crashed it because I 

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was spotting into many Iron 
Golems messing around as you. 

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Should we go as we shared. 
Yeah, I wanted to see, like, how

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far can I really push this 
thing? 

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I remember getting the getting 
the nose, like, hey, maybe we 

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shouldn't do this, took it to 
the Limit, but I think, you 

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know, any any time has anyone 
has if you're a server owner, 

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Roll or like anywhere, close to 
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You will test these things. 
I remember. 

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Oh yeah, you know, when I had my
server I would and then died 

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discover worldedit. 
So I would troll people, I would

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go and like delete somebody's 
house or something. 

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Maybe like just kidding, here 
you go on do but you know, I do 

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sometimes doesn't work. 
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Oh, the amount of tools you guys
had set us up with were through 

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the roof and I remember me and 
my My mods and admins and stuff.

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Because at the time we were 
like, just about anyone can join

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like you put in an application, 
you didn't have to be a content 

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creator. 
You if you just want to play 

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Minecraft fun, you could play on
the server and obviously every 

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once while you do get the trolls
who don't mean to just prank and

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have fun, they're there to harm 
and stuff. 

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And a lot of the admin stuff you
guys hooked us up with was 

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amazing and anytime the server 
would go down, we'd send an 

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email and I'm talking like 
within an hour. 

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We were back up and running full
steam ahead, it was Great. 

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Yeah. 
Unfortunately, you know, it's 

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fun and games when it's between 
friends messing around but 

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there's definitely people that 
will try to come in and you 

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know, cause havoc on your 
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So we always recommend to 
definitely if it's a private 

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server to have it white lists 
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Oh yeah right because if it's 
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know you only one for them to 
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if you have a public server just
giving people building rights by

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default is usually a very bad 
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Hmm. 
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know, sometimes we'll have 
customers like, oh, hey, like 

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these random people join my 
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Where they come from? 
Well, it's from because we use, 

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we have to reuse IP addresses, 
so that IP address was probably 

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at some point on somebody else's
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you guys know like Minecraft 
uses like ipv4 and we ran out of

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those addresses of very long 
time ago. 

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Oh so you know like every 
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assigned. 
So there's no, you know, there's

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no new ones. 
So we can't just recycle 

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addresses. 
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We had a white listing 
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amount of people who would fake 
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approved to join their just to 
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Someone else's fun was through 
the roof. 

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Yeah, people I didn't. 
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It's people crazy. 
Just certainly better ways to 

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spend your time but you know, 
that's how you yeah choose to do

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it. 
That's, that's fine. 

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Yeah. 
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But even yeah, even if it's 
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public still, I feel like giving
people building rights 

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immediately is not a great idea,
unless you have really good 

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systems in place, just for, you 
know, restoring people's builds 

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and everything thankfully. 
Like that's what's so great 

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about Minecraft. 
I think in the first place and 

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that, especially like the 
community, like, without 

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Minecraft Community, it wouldn't
be the most popular game in the 

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world, for sure. 
Because you have so many 

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Talented individuals that have 
created, you know, thousands of 

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these plugins that allow you to 
customize your server any way 

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you want it. 
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created like permission plugins 
and just plug ins that help you 

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you know that log all the 
changes in a server, allow you 

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to roll back things, you know, 
one block at a time. 

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It's insane. 
Yeah, I remember your guys were 

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like, hey, you should probably 
run spigot. 

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Cuz I'm seeing your server and 
this would be perfect for it. 

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Oh. 
And then it gives you access to 

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this, this, this this this is 
it's like, oh okay. 

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Yeah, we want all of that. 
It was great. 

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Oh, did you just started with a 
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Yeah. 
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And yeah, banila performance is 
not great. 

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No, the game has been getting 
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performance is almost has been 
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Just yeah. 
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usage of Minecraft servers you 
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like, 1.7.10 and like to now 
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Mmm. 
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I can imagine, I think I have 
like 20 mods in my Minecraft 

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folder and 17 of them are 
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Performance. 
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Yeah. 
It's like I don't have old 

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computer, like this is a newer 
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It's beefy can do all the things
can render videos really fast, 

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but yet Minecraft, Ghal. 
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They have a crazy blocky game 
extended, the not the render 

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distance distance, but the world
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Yeah, so there's so much being 
rendered in now, especially with

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that new update. 
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When that came up, we were like,
we need to like make sure this 

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is all going to be fine because 
it renders so much more. 

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Right? 
And again, I feel like most of 

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the improvements for performs 
that happen came from plug into 

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Uppers and the community, I know
Mojang has been making more 

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efforts like more recently in 
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But, you know, still I think 
everybody's everybody's dream is

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for Minecraft servers to fully 
utilize like multi core 

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performance. 
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But I don't know if that Oliver 
happened just because of how its

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coded. 
Mmm. 

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Yeah, that's that's what me and 
Jimbo have been from. 

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So we run AMD processors for the
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Goes quicker and all that stuff 
but we know you run an Intel 

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processor. 
It actually runs Minecraft a lot

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better and because of that 
single thread performance. 

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It's like, yeah, you got to pick
your bad. 

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Yeah. 
You gotta pick and choose your 

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battles. 
I mean, you guys, I mean, it's, 

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it's, you're still doing it 
like, you know, just because you

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have different CPUs like yes, 
you know, they say you could say

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one's better than the other but 
bike at the end of the day, if 

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it's single thread as long as 
they're, you know, the clock 

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speed is up there but even that 
you can overclock Kid have, you 

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know, the most insane clock 
speed of your processor and no 

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matter what you have it, you 
know, it's still eventually 

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gonna struggle because the 
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mmm-hmm think a couple years 
ago, maybe a year ago, Linus did

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a video where they built like 
the ultimate Minecraft server 

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and it was like, I think I seen 
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Yeah, the most ridiculous CPU, 
like Ram insane, like insanely 

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quick, SSD or like, nvme the 
use, and it was pretty 

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Impressive like it was you know 
he was flying around pretty 

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quickly in the load. 
The world was loading really 

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quick but then as soon as they 
up the you know the render 

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distance, The View distance of 
the server higher, it just like 

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even that just started to 
immediately struggle. 

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Well God forbid, they put 
shaders. 

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Yeah. 
Hmm. 

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But imagine you know being us 
where we have oh yeah, thousands

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of customers which, you know, 
majority of them don't know any 

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of this. 
Anytime an issue happens like we

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just get blamed which is you 
know it's fun. 

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We're used to it. 
Yeah. 

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Oh yeah probably get the finger 
pointed at you a lot. 

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Yeah I mean like I would say 
probably 95 or more percent of 

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the issues that happened there 
either with you know the game's 

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mechanics and either like 
performance issue with Minecraft

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itself, then you can have an 
issue with a plug-in or a mod. 

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If you're running a modded 
server because at the end of the

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day you have a game that was 
created by one. 

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Artie. 
Then you have server software 

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you know like spigot paper that 
were created by yep. 

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Massive teams of other 
developers because then you 

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know, you have a lot of people 
contribute into that and then on

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top of that then you have 
plugins that were made by many 

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other people and then you know 
when you mix it all together 

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it's not always going to play 
nice. 

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Yeah I think we've found our 
groove with fabric now that's 

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our main. 
That's what you guys use. 

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Yeah for just about everything 
including performance. 

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I thought fabric would, I mean 
it's it has certainly has gotten

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way more popular than it used to
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what year and a half or so. 
But I thought it would you know,

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blow up a lot more than it did 
because there is a lot of 

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performance advantages to it. 
Oh yeah. 

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What do you got? 
Do you just have a like a custom

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mod server or do you place a 
certain Modpack? 

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It's mostly vanilla? 
Okay. 

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And on most of the fabric Minds,
our performance God. 

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Got it, but it allows us to do 
to do certain things like custom

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models and stuff like that, we 
try to be as vanilla as 

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possible. 
It's a very storytelling content

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creator server. 
Okay? 

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So anything we can do to enhance
the story, whether it be models 

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or making certain things do, 
certain things outside of the 

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game we do. 
But for the most part we don't 

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go much deeper than that. 
Models are super cool for that 

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for what you're trying to do 
because it's not Only, you know,

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you have mods that can change 
the game completely but now you 

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can have models, you know, that 
you can add, literally, whatever

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your imagination wants to the 
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Oh yeah, it's so cool. 
I got like this, the community's

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insane. 
Like I don't know any other game

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that has, you know, that's been 
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as big of a community. 
That's just dedicated to just 

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created so much content. 
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one side, you have all the 
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These things and on the other 
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creators. 
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streamers and all of that. 
It's wild. 

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Yeah, crazy is you think you've 
seen everything until someone 

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makes something different? 
Just blows your mind. 

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Does something with one block 
that you just never seen before.

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Exactly. 
Yeah, before we go too far, 

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I wanted to throw it in there. 
We're like 15 minutes in the 

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show. 
We've already been chatting, 

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like crazy. 
Thank you so much for that, by 

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the way. 
Yeah, not a problem. 

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Happy to do it. 
Especially that you guys are, 

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you know, the product and 
service. 

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So that's always really nice. 
One question, want to get it 

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onto before we hop into the 
news? 

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Is we had discussed his pre-show
but any behind the scenes things

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you can talk about you guys 
working on. 

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Yeah, I mean more recently, this
is already out but we just added

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three more locations and a 
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Chicago and Atlanta, which it's 
really nice. 

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Really expands that gives 
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on the west coast. 
We're doing a ton of work behind

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the scenes on a control panel 
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multi craft if you were to look 
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multi craft as it comes from the
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able to tell. 
It's multi crap. 

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We poured, you know, thousands 
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make it much better easier to 
use. 

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But it's still very limited 
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that's, you know, Alpha skated 
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so we're kind of stuck. 
So we are working on a different

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solution and right now it's kind
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different All panels, we have 
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servers premium service, and I 
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but, you know, sometime this 
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these things. 
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better than the current one 
nice. 

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If your hypo the stroke because 
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things that Drew me to bisect 
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to use than some of the others. 
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easier to use than yeah, great. 
Yeah, it's great. 

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Now, but the problem is again, 
like we've added so many things 

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to it, you can definitely tell 
that it wasn't like planned from

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the beginning. 
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something we developed 
ourselves, we just kept adding 

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to it, you know, features that 
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So you can kind of add is just 
stuff, just kind of been thrown 

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on top of each other, which is, 
you know, that's all we could 

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have really done but with this 
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now we have kind of a list. 
Oh, yeah, of everything we want.

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What we were, and we know what 
we wanted to be. 

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So we're kind of Of starting 
from scratch, which is great. 

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Clean Slate. 
Yeah, perfect. 

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Another thing that's very 
exciting, which is public now, 

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also, but literally public, as 
of as of today, where do you 

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guys usually, get your models 
for your server? 

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I go to gesture Arrington, 
they're just, they're just 

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server mates. 
I'm like, hey, could you could 

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you make this? 
Okay that's awesome and I think 

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they're doing it. 
What program is it? 

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Block bench. 
Block bench. 

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Yeah. 
Do you know of the vendor? 

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Model Marketplace MC models 
dotnet. 

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No, I'm not too familiar. 
Basically, if you're a model 

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maker, you can list your models 
there and then for anyone in the

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community to buy which is great 
because it opens it up for so 

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many different people. 
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the website because the person 
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it was has been extremely busy 
at the website has a lot of 

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potential because you guys know 
like using models is really 

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awesome. 
Oh, oh yeah. 

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But there's not a lot of 
awareness to models. 

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I think most like micro players 
don't even know. 

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You can do all these cool 
things. 

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So we're hoping to you know, 
kind of get a lot more exposure 

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to that world or like our 
customers and just like everyone

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in the community in general. 
Hopefully to make it easier our 

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partners on it. 
Our Mythic mobs guys so we're 

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like super excited to work with 
them on this. 

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Yeah. 
Awesome. 

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It does sound cool. 
That's perfect. 

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Let's hop. 
To the news real quick. 

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Because we do have a pig 
snapshot that just came out 

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today. 
Like, yeah, Jimbo and I have 

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barely been able to review and 
look over it. 

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We've got some of the big things
but we haven't been able to 

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break down deeper, let's start 
with the archaeology that's back

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and yeah, that got announced 
last week. 

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It was announced a few days ago.
I want to say and now it's in 

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the snapshot. 
Yeah. 

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So the pots, the vases, you want
to call it our back where you 

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can do the custom sides, it 
looks so much better than it did

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and that previewing of a boring.
Granted, we were always told 

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that these were just placeholder
models and textures and the 

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final, the final ones are very 
good. 

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I really like those. 
Mmm, and there's not, you don't 

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find them at an archeology site 
as of right now, you know, you 

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find them at the desert temple 
and desert. 

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Well, desert temple. 
I think you can find them at the

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Wells. 
Yeah. 

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So we're given the wells, some 
love. 

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Finally. 
Mmm, how long have I been asking

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for that? 
And I like the fact that they're

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using the desert for these. 
Yeah. 

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Because the desert is pretty 
Barren. 

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There's not much there. 
Now we have camels and we have 

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archaeology so livens it up a 
little bit I'm glad now it's 

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like super you know this is as 
official as it could be too 

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because I know before people you
know is mostly rumored but no 

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more. 
Oh yeah yeah they took it out 

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and we didn't ever at least know
if they were ever bring it back 

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so it's good to see that they 
brought it back. 

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Yeah I remember specifically. 
He telling Jimbo oh that's not 

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coming back. 
It's gone. 

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And here it is. 
Yeah, mmm. 

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Yeah. 
So you got to look for something

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called suspicious and it's a 
little different. 

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Yeah. 
To get the pot textures. 

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The brush is back. 
So you sweep away yet, you don't

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need copper to make this like 
before. 

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It's just two sticks and three 
string the pretty easy. 

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Oh nice. 
I did a, I started a world in 

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the new snapshot just to see 
what it was like. 

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And I actually ran into a temple
went into creative real quick, 

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and grab the brush And it's 
pretty cool animation. 

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Yeah, your brush to block the 
guy. 

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Got a diamond and emerald and 
one of those. 

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What is it a shart? 
Yeah, I think you could call it.

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I think. 
I think you call it Richard. 

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Yeah, it was the skull one found
three blocks inside the temple. 

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Nice that I could brush away. 
Yeah. 

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There's different varieties of 
things. 

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You can get just pretty cool. 
You can mix them with bricks if 

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you don't want to put a design 
on every side, I don't know. 

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If you can craft an entire blank
one. 

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I think you can from the 
pictures I've seen But I do No. 

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Yeah, I missed it. 
I remember to craft it. 

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You used to have to put it above
a fire. 

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Mmm. 
Yep. 

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Like a campfire and let it go. 
It would Harden. 

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I don't know if you do that now.
Yeah, some things have changed 

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but I'm just glad they're 
bringing it back. 

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The sniffer is coming to 120. 
I think we originally were 

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thinking it was coming a little 
bit later on the next one 

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because of how long the islet 
took to come. 

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Yes, sniffers coming. 
Ringing. 

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Its ancient seeds and flowers 
with it. 

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Yeah, we get to see the new 
flower. 

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I haven't seen the new flower 
yet. 

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It's called like a torch flower.
Yeah, try to see if I could find

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that. 
I know the name of it and I was 

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flipping through and I couldn't 
find any pictures of it real 

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quick. 
So I was trying to read the 

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notes from the snapshot and I 
didn't focus in on too many 

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images but it'll be a surprise 
to me. 

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I was watching exhume avoids 
video, he goes over the 

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snapshot, that's how a lot of 
the information. 

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It's pretty or the snapshot and 
he mentioned one key point. 

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It's called a torch flower. 
I feel like it should give off 

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light. 
And that's what he was saying. 

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I agree. 
Yes. 

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How cool would it be to have a 
flower that actually? 

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It is like, yeah, even if it's 
just like, light level 7 or 

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something. 
Yeah, doesn't have to be 

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anything crazy with the, the new
lighting effects and spawn stuff

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that I would like that. 
Yeah, another thing I did was 

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spawn to sniffers and I didn't 
try to breed them. 

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I wasn't sure did catch how you 
bread them toward fire with the 

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flower. 
That's how you breathe them, I'm

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pretty sure. 
Okay. 

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That's I think that's what I 
read. 

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Also read you couldn't tame 
them, okay? 

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That sounds great. 
I guess they're free to roam. 

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Yeah, really wish. 
I could ride one though. 

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That'd be really cool. 
That would be cool. 

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Probably fit four people on 
them. 

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They're pretty massive. 
Yeah. 

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Right. 
That's what I was just gonna say

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like for when they first kind of
we're announcing him to where, 

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you know, you first see it in 
game. 

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It's so much bigger than I 
thought. 

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It was right. 
Hmm, you're huge. 

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Yeah they're pretty mess. 
Is it actually two blocks. 

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Tall. 
I think you can see over it a 

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little bit. 
Okay, so not quite playwright, 

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I'm not positive, I don't know, 
I'm looking at these well 

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actually, one picture, I'm 
looking at the player is 

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actually shorter than its back. 
Hmm. 

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Maybe I was a block above, I'm 
not positive. 

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I think it might be taller than 
two dollar. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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I kind of lost interest. 
When they didn't dig up any 

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seeds, I sat there for like 10 
minutes like they got to see. 

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Yeah. 
They were sniffing around for 

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good while of the animation. 
Yeah. 

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Animations are so cool. 
They lay down on their belly. 

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Yeah. 
Like, what? 

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I'm going to lose it when that 
happens. 

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Mmm, I'll maybe that's the 
difference in height between 

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it's next to the player when 
it's laying down versus 

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standing, maybe, maybe. 
And finally, the big one that 

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was just announced yesterday the
cherry blossom by. 

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Oh yeah, I was didn't expect 
this me. 

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Either one of the things that 
did not expect. 

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Yeah, this has to be one of the 
most requested tree other than a

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palm tree in the game. 
Yeah, probably right. 

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I'm trees with look weird in 
Minecraft. 

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How would you even do that? 
Oh, you can't say that I build 

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so many palm tree. 
Yeah, we make them, you know, 

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we've got a lot of palm trees 
around our base. 

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Would be strange to see them 
grow, I guess. 

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Yeah. 
Like what am I thinking? 

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Random growth? 
I guess I just looked up a palm 

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tree in Minecraft would like, 
okay, that makes sense. 

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That's not how I was imagining 
it but I'm also A a terrible 

458
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,900
Builder. 
I, you know most my base was 

459
00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:25,000
always in a cave, never in a 
nice house that's me. 

460
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,200
Like, if you were to see my 
latest episodes, all I do is I 

461
00:23:28,208 --> 00:23:31,300
find a big Cliff face, put a 
nice facade on the front and 

462
00:23:31,308 --> 00:23:33,600
they just dig inside, go into 
your hole. 

463
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,800
I would all this spend more time
on like my storage and instead 

464
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,400
of the actual house. 
Yes, yeah. 

465
00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:44,900
Same, I spent two weeks 
designing my storage room to be 

466
00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:47,500
just right for the entire 
season. 

467
00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:50,300
Even I love storage rooms. 
It's like playing Sims. 

468
00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:52,600
Like all right. 30 hours in 
building a house. 

469
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,300
Time to start a new one. 
Not actually play the game. 

470
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,500
Exactly. 
Mmm. 

471
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,200
So behind the scenes, I went to 
school for architecture. 

472
00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:04,000
Yeah. 
When I came out of school, there

473
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,200
were new architecture jobs. 
It was the 09 just recession. 

474
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,100
So, yeah, I've gone on and I've 
done other stuff. 

475
00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:15,500
Never came back to architecture,
but that bug has always lived 

476
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:17,900
inside of me. 
And my friend was like, You 

477
00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:20,900
should play Minecraft because 
you would actually understand 

478
00:24:20,900 --> 00:24:22,800
some of the building mechanics 
and stuff. 

479
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,100
Sure enough. 
Yeah, that rubs off on me and I 

480
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:28,500
just started building things and
building things and then I got a

481
00:24:28,508 --> 00:24:32,900
job as an electrical technician 
for industrial vfds and stuff 

482
00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:36,000
and they didn't have money to 
send me to school to learn it. 

483
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,700
They just had one of their 
technicians teaching me and he 

484
00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:42,200
found out that I played 
Minecraft and to learn a lot of 

485
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,300
these circuits that were on 
these drives and stuff. 

486
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,000
He taught me through Minecraft 
because his kid He's played 

487
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,000
Minecraft PE and he understood 
the electrical circuits through 

488
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,000
Redstone. 
So he used Redstone to teach me 

489
00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:58,500
like, industrial electronics. 
And it's just it's a great game.

490
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,600
It really is. 
Yeah, yeah. 

491
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,800
Now there's so many educational 
aspects to it, especially like, 

492
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,900
you know, getting into Redstone 
like, learning all the gates and

493
00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:10,700
everything is, can you can learn
a ton. 

494
00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:12,900
Oh yeah. 
But even like, you know, some 

495
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,900
players turn server owners like 
either, like, oh, login 

496
00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:18,900
configuration, File. 
Let me look at that. 

497
00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:21,900
I've never seen this and it goes
and then you know four months 

498
00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:24,100
later they're like coding their 
own plugins in Java. 

499
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,900
Oh yeah. 
So as an architect would you use

500
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,600
the new cherry blossom? 
Would what do you think of that?

501
00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:35,000
No I wouldn't. 
I'm not a big fan of the pink 

502
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,400
would ya especially because 
cherry blossoms cherry wood. 

503
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,300
As I know it is not pink, but 
maybe I'm thinking of it, I 

504
00:25:43,308 --> 00:25:47,300
don't know the tree obviously 
very well texture-wise in game. 

505
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,200
I like the flowers I think they 
should be a bit more 

506
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,000
transparent. 
Yeah. 

507
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,100
Little bit see-through. 
They don't really fit with the 

508
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:57,500
other leaves but I use the bushy
Leaf texture. 

509
00:25:57,700 --> 00:26:00,800
I really like the 3d effect that
gives off to me. 

510
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,600
I kind of compare it to purr, 
purr. 

511
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,700
Purr purr is a great block, but 
it's one. 

512
00:26:04,700 --> 00:26:08,900
I've never been able to use 
correctly and I feel cherry 

513
00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:10,600
blossom. 
Trees are going to be the same 

514
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,800
way to me. 
It's a great block, But I me, 

515
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,100
personally, I'm not going to be 
able to use it very well. 

516
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,800
Yeah. 
Now that I'm looking at It's 

517
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,400
more like a yeah it's purple. 
Well, it's kind of got a lot of 

518
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,800
peach in there. 
Oh, you come? 

519
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,900
Yeah. 
It's the unstriped log though, 

520
00:26:25,900 --> 00:26:27,700
is like straight up purple. 
Oh yeah. 

521
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,200
That's a hard the log in. 
But then again, I always thought

522
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,900
I'd have a little bit of trouble
with the Warped, wood from the 

523
00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:37,800
nether but I use that stuff all 
the time now. 

524
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,200
So maybe maybe that changes its 
so Brown on the outside though, 

525
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,200
people might use it as like 
accent blocks where you, you 

526
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,600
know, depending how you place 
it. 

527
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,600
So you can only see He liked the
pinkish middle. 

528
00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:52,500
Yeah. 
And and the outside still looks 

529
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:54,400
Brown. 
So it kind of fits with all 

530
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,400
their would, but I don't know, 
there's people people will come 

531
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,200
up with a way to use it. 
It's going to look really nice. 

532
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,800
I'm sure, 100%. 
Yeah, that was just about to say

533
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,700
the same thing normally when a 
new block comes out that were 

534
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:10,700
not a fan of somebody makes it 
popular. 

535
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:13,100
Yeah. 
They immediately build something

536
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:15,600
and do see it can be used like 
yeah. 

537
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,000
Okay, you're right. 
Hmm. 

538
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,200
The It's got stairs and slabs, 
right? 

539
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,800
You can make a roof out of this 
and grooves. 

540
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,600
Can be difficult to do. 
I will say it probably works 

541
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,000
really well with jungle wood. 
I could see that it's more of a 

542
00:27:30,008 --> 00:27:33,900
peach color. 
I will say, the flower carpet 

543
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:35,200
thing. 
That's what they're calling it. 

544
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,400
I'm excited to use those. 
I can't wait for that. 

545
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:42,200
And also the leaves. 
They give off a like an ambient.

546
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:43,600
Yeah, a little particle. 
Drop. 

547
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:45,800
Ya particles. 
I couldn't tell if it was that 

548
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,900
was the leaves or if it was just
the Bayou, Home. 

549
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:51,300
It was the leaves, are you sure?
Because you know, people will 

550
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:54,800
call us out on this. 
Call me out, that's what I saw. 

551
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,700
And I was exploring the cherry 
blossom but I did find one of 

552
00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:01,500
these. 
And yeah, there's flowers 

553
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:04,700
everywhere and I look up and I 
was looking at the particles and

554
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,000
making sure I saw where these 
things were coming from and 

555
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,800
yeah, it was is coming below the
leaves but the big question is 

556
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,000
if you sure these leaves law and
you take them to a different 

557
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,500
biome and place them and place 
them do. 

558
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,600
Still get the same particle, 
right? 

559
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,900
Yeah. 
Didn't do much testing, just 

560
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,000
wondering. 
Well, I mean we really didn't 

561
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,000
have a lot of time right? 
I mean I got home a dinner and 

562
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,500
then we were already getting in 
a call. 

563
00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:31,300
Okay and everything ready to go?
Mmm. 

564
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:34,300
Yeah but with these three new 
things, it's actually looking 

565
00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:39,700
like a update like I'm more 
excited about it along with like

566
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:42,900
the armor trims things that we 
didn't know about during the 

567
00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:45,600
reveal. 
Don't forget jukeboxes. 

568
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,200
Yeah. 
They got the Redstone. 

569
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,000
And everyone's been asking for, 
hmm, so that's cool. 

570
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,400
I might actually use that in my 
base. 

571
00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:54,800
Yeah, they don't have the, what 
is it? 

572
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,100
How they filter out of the 
Jukebox, just into the Jukebox. 

573
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,800
I thought you could Hopper them 
out. 

574
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:02,300
No, you can't Hopper them out as
of right now. 

575
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:05,700
Well, maybe. 
You know what? 

576
00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:07,400
Might get called out for that. 
Yeah. 

577
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,900
If you haven't dispenser, that 
shoves a disc into the Jukebox, 

578
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:14,900
that already has a disc in it. 
It would filter the previously 

579
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:16,600
playing disc out. 
Yeah. 

580
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,300
As what, I was seeing was with 
if you right-click on the 

581
00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:24,300
jukebox that disc comes out and 
not into the hopper below, but 

582
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:27,700
maybe, when the disc is done 
playing it, might filter out. 

583
00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:30,000
Do you have any idea what 
they're going to call this 

584
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,300
update? 
I always thought they said the 

585
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:35,400
express yourself update. 
Mmm, I don't know if that was a 

586
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,100
fish. 
I don't know if it's official 

587
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:39,700
either, but that's what I've 
been calling it. 

588
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,100
Yeah, said that was kind of 
along the lines of the theme. 

589
00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:47,300
Definitely get that with the the
archaeology with the pottery and

590
00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:49,900
the The trim. 
Specially the armor trim. 

591
00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:53,800
This was the final feature 
release or 120. 

592
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,800
They went ahead. 
And they mentioned that in the 

593
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,300
blog post for the snapshot 
today. 

594
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,900
So, no new features will come. 
I'm sure we'll get something new

595
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:04,400
later. 
This is kind of an add-on to 

596
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:07,600
what we've already seen. 
Yes, hoping for another mob. 

597
00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:11,800
We got cables and sniffer hoping
for maybe one more. 

598
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:14,100
Hey, you get what you vote for? 
Yeah. 

599
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,400
Mmm, unless you voted for copper
go low. 

600
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,400
Right? 
I'm seeing a lot of those 

601
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,200
tweets. 
Now, about people wishing. 

602
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,000
They would have changed their 
vote to Copper Golem. 

603
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:32,300
I think I'm one of those people.
Orale anyways, let's move on to 

604
00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:37,300
our last episode question and we
wanted to know what you guys 

605
00:30:37,300 --> 00:30:40,500
thought about armor trims. 
Most of the people on Spotify 

606
00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:44,300
said they are great addition for
customizing your armor and most 

607
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:47,900
of the people on YouTube or 
Tide, we Had. 

608
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:50,800
Yeah, between a lot of. 
Yeah, three of the options were 

609
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,800
pick and it wasn't great. 
Addition, it was too hard to 

610
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,500
find the template. 
It's the right balance between 

611
00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:03,300
effort and reward and should 
affect gameplay, IE, gold trims,

612
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:05,400
keeping piglets from attacking 
you. 

613
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:08,900
How you guys voted on all of 
those and tied, three of them. 

614
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:11,400
I don't know. 
But hmm, it happened. 

615
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,000
Yeah, let's vote on YouTube also
then Spotify this trip, bona 

616
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,200
fide Romans had 100 votes. 
It's yeah. 

617
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:27,400
But we have a listener, comment 
this one's from awesome 2399. 

618
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:30,700
And this is for Max, and they 
say, would you say there's any 

619
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:34,700
particular advantages to hosting
versus just starting a realm 

620
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,500
tons? 
A lot of advantages to self 

621
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:41,900
housing, if you just want to 
like vanilla Minecraft, super 

622
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:45,500
easy who've just like a few 
people Realms are obviously 

623
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,800
super easy to do but then on 
Realms your limited, you know, 

624
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,400
you can Can't, you know the it's
either two or up to 10 players 

625
00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:55,300
that's it. 
You can't pick your own location

626
00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:57,700
so you don't really know where 
they're sticking your server. 

627
00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:01,900
I believe they use AWS still so 
I'm sure you know that they have

628
00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:04,800
a lot of great locations but 
again you don't know it for 

629
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,100
Minecraft most of the time. 
It doesn't really matter you 

630
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:11,800
know on the latency. 
It's but obviously the farther 

631
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,700
you get, it could matter 
especially like in PvP 

632
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:19,300
situations but General gameplay,
not really but then you're also 

633
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:21,300
Do what you can do. 
Like, you can't install any 

634
00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:23,100
mods, you can install a new 
plugin. 

635
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:26,200
So like all the stuff we talked 
about earlier about, if you have

636
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,100
a public server, keeping it 
protected and everything is, you

637
00:32:29,108 --> 00:32:30,900
know, kind of out the door with 
that. 

638
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:35,000
And then you know, you never 
never get to experience the 

639
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,800
modded side of things which 
there are so many mod packs. 

640
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,700
And you know, if you if you 
think plugins change the game a 

641
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:44,900
lot or with modpacks it's like 
you know, you're playing 

642
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:48,400
completely different games and 
stories that people have 

643
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,900
created. 
Yeah. 

644
00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:53,000
Modern Minecraft's always been a
huge part of the Creator 

645
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,000
Community for a long time and 
it's definitely ramping up again

646
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,900
content. 
So there's a lot of people 

647
00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:00,300
watching their favorite 
YouTuber. 

648
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:03,900
Play modded version and they're 
trying to jump in and do it 

649
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,100
doing it with their friends. 
Can't just do that on Realms, 

650
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,400
right? 
Yeah, there's, it's just 

651
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,600
customize a that ease-of-use. 
Yes. 

652
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,000
But like, if you want even, you 
know, an ounce of customization 

653
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,600
like you, you definitely you're 
not going to be happy with it. 

654
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,900
Another huge thing is like for 
us, like it's support has been 

655
00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:28,500
like our priority since day one.
And like we said earlier, you 

656
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:32,000
know, you run into many issues 
with just Minecraft and all 

657
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,000
these things. 
And if you run into issues of 

658
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,000
Realms, like Mojang is not going
to get back to you in 15 

659
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,800
minutes. 
We will see if you have an 

660
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,000
issue, you know, he could be 
resolved, much quicker. 

661
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,200
Yeah. 
Like if on their Realms read it,

662
00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:51,300
there's so many. 
He posts of like people asking 

663
00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:54,500
others for help because you know
it's because they don't really 

664
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:57,500
have anywhere else to go. 
Thank you guys for those 

665
00:33:57,500 --> 00:34:00,900
comments but let's move onto 
Creator Clash. 

666
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:08,900
We're going to start by 
announcing this month's winner 

667
00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:10,300
for Creator clash. 
And then we're going to talk a 

668
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:11,800
little bit more about last 
month's. 

669
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,800
This time, you guys were 
choosing between a hammer data 

670
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,400
pack, which allowed you to mine 
quicker, the terror list over 

671
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,500
World evolved datapack, which 
added new biomes and such. 

672
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,000
And then the way stones data 
pack, which would add fast 

673
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,699
travel to your world. 
In the winner of Creator, Clash 

674
00:34:31,699 --> 00:34:40,300
is Way stones. 
This is the one I wanted to win 

675
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:43,699
so badly. 
Yeah, I was so happy to see it. 

676
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,800
So, in my single player world, I
use command blocks to already do

677
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,400
this because this world was 
created before the nether 

678
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,600
update, I was like, well, I 
don't want to travel through the

679
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,900
nether until the another update 
hits, and I just never went 

680
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:00,700
back. 
I still use these little command

681
00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:03,600
box, like, I've buried command 
blocks, deep underground and I 

682
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,000
have a little button. 
That activates Redstone. 

683
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,100
So, when I want to go to my 
mining desert, I travel out to 

684
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,700
basically, Way Stone Island, 
which is like, a couple hundred 

685
00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:16,900
blocks away, but it allows me to
fast travel to different places 

686
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:19,300
in the Overworld. 
And when I saw this data pack, I

687
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:23,600
went, oh, I want to try this so 
much to see if it's better than 

688
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,200
the thing I have set up. 
You know, I did a little 

689
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:32,200
research on it ahead of time and
it is exactly what it is. 

690
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,000
So it's you find. 
I think it's an Modern egg and 

691
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:40,200
it creates a Way Stone to where 
you can go place a place you 

692
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,200
don't like you mentioned fast 
way to travel but the way it was

693
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,600
implemented into the game. 
It's very Minecraft E. 

694
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:49,300
Yeah. 
Like it looks like something I 

695
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:53,100
would like it to be a little 
more rare to find. 

696
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,800
I'm not sure how rare was when 
they found it on it. 

697
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,900
Maybe it was just an example. 
But uh yeah, I love the way it's

698
00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:00,900
used in the game. 
It's very Minecraft e. 

699
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,600
So like the last cringer Clash, 
I'll end up doing a live stream.

700
00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:08,800
Where we do this on stream but 
we also have a question for Max.

701
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,700
He goes, how can you configure 
and edit your mod packs with 

702
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:16,500
bisect hosting? 
We make it really easy to 

703
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,100
install and update modpacks, I 
think, at this point we have 

704
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:26,000
close to 800 mod packs. 
That can be just installed with 

705
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,800
a few clicks automatically and 
then Windows the developers of 

706
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,900
those modpacks release updates 
you'll actually be notified In 

707
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:36,700
the control panel, there is an 
update. 

708
00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:39,600
You could literally just then 
select the new version, click 

709
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,100
save, press restart, and then 
the mod packs going to be 

710
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:45,400
updated. 
So we make that process, super 

711
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,000
easy because again, you know, my
packs are so awesome with my 

712
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,300
crowd but for so many could be 
so intimidating because, you 

713
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:56,000
know, you have to yeah, just 
upload the files yourself, not 

714
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,400
everybody's comfortable with 
doing that or like your place it

715
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,600
in the wrong location. 
This just does it all for you. 

716
00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:05,600
And then as far as just 
configuring, Stuff again, you 

717
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,500
know, we have if you're an 
advanced user, you have your 

718
00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:11,000
favorite FTP client, you can use
that. 

719
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,700
But we also have a super awesome
online file manager with, like, 

720
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:18,100
a really great text editor, so 
you can edit stuff, right? 

721
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:20,700
And a paddle without, you know, 
having to download anything 

722
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:24,400
else, which again, makes it much
easier, especially for those 

723
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,800
that never hosted before just 
not familiar with any kind of 

724
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,200
Hosting. 
Yeah, and like I said, when we 

725
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,400
were running common craft, we 
used spigot, or whatever and 

726
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,000
sure. 
F. 

727
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,000
Yeah, we just get a little blip 
and we know that it was time to 

728
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,900
update and everything was good 
to go, and we just restarted the

729
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:44,500
server. 
And again, it worked like a 

730
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:46,900
champ every time I loved it. 
It was real easy. 

731
00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:49,600
Yeah. 
It's a, no, it's great. 

732
00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:52,600
I think that's where we shine 
again our even if you, you know,

733
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,300
and if we don't have a mod pack 
you want or like your run into 

734
00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:59,000
whatever issue like we're happy 
to install whatever Modpack you 

735
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,700
want for you. 
That's cool. 

736
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,400
We're never going to tell 
customers. 

737
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,800
Hey you know like that's this is
not Not. 

738
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,500
This is not an RN, Google, it 
figure it out on your own, like,

739
00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:09,500
no matter, no matter what, 
right? 

740
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:12,200
Mmm, no matter what it is, will 
help him out. 

741
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,200
Like, as I told people before, 
I'm like, I think if a customer 

742
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,000
even creates a support ticket 
asking, you know, help with 

743
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,800
their homework will probably 
help him nice. 

744
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,700
Last episode on Creator, Clash. 
You guys chose the John Smith 

745
00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:35,300
Legacy resource pack and we did 
a live stream going over a lot 

746
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:37,800
of it. 
I believe Carl has uploaded it 

747
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,300
to our YouTube channel. 
So if you want to go back and 

748
00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:42,300
watch it, you can some quick 
thoughts. 

749
00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:45,300
I had about it. 
So there's a lot of detail in 

750
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:47,400
this resource pack, or than I 
was used to. 

751
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,000
It was very much an over 
saturation of detail compared to

752
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,600
the vanilla pack, and I 
definitely didn't build in a 

753
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,600
way. 
Were, it was an easy as a 

754
00:38:59,607 --> 00:39:01,400
conversion to that resource 
back. 

755
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,100
I wouldn't ever just be able to 
turn it on on a previous build 

756
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:07,900
and everything look 100% 
correct, right. 

757
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:11,900
But if you were planning on 
building a Medieval theme and 

758
00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:15,600
you wanted to add a lot more 
life and theming to your build 

759
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,800
using this resource pack alone 
is beautiful. 

760
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,600
Yeah, it seemed like a lot of 
blocks have that medieval look, 

761
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:26,300
but then, like some other ones, 
like, kind of looked a little 

762
00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:30,200
Uni and it might be because I 
love the hard lines. 

763
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:32,700
Yeah. 
In the detail hard lines are 

764
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:35,100
such a tricky thing to build 
with. 

765
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,200
Hmm it's definitely one of the 
things I'm constantly looking at

766
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,300
in a build palette but to me the
one thing that stands out is the

767
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:45,000
villagers were creepy though. 
I could I like the Villager, you

768
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,500
liked him. 
I couldn't look a villager in 

769
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:47,100
the face. 
To take it. 

770
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:48,300
Seriously. 
Hmm. 

771
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:50,600
That's why I like them. 
Okay. 

772
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:52,800
Because I couldn't really take 
him serious. 

773
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:54,700
I just look at her, like I'd 
laugh. 

774
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,700
I kind of wish this guy would 
turn around. 

775
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,100
The workstations to have stare 
at me while I'm trading. 

776
00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:00,700
I just want to keep talking to 
him. 

777
00:40:01,300 --> 00:40:05,000
I could see that from you. 
Hmm I was a little disappointed 

778
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,700
though though. 
I made a big deal out of it. 

779
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:11,000
The creepers the creepers had a 
crazy looking face too. 

780
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,900
Yeah, but the footage I solve 
this head creepers wearing 

781
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:18,900
headbands and I made a big deal.
How how these creepers got 

782
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:20,900
headbands, they don't even have 
hands. 

783
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:24,800
Ty, headbands on like it's did. 
It didn't make any sense. 

784
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:27,700
I remember you going. 
How do they Put the headbands 

785
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:29,200
on. 
They have no yeah why? 

786
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,600
They got head bansal. 
Just didn't make any sense and 

787
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,500
then on your version that you 
played they didn't have so as 

788
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:39,300
little disappointed but also 
like okay this makes more sense.

789
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:41,100
Maybe the zombies put them on 
for them. 

790
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,600
Maybe seem to travel with each 
other. 

791
00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:51,400
All right, time to talk more 
bisect hosting Jim. 

792
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,400
I think you had a couple 
questions you want to ask. 

793
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:57,100
Yeah, before we started with the
discussion, I wanted to ask Max 

794
00:40:57,100 --> 00:41:00,300
how bisects started, you know 
where he was involved in it. 

795
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:05,300
Man, there's a long time ago but
the short story is basically I 

796
00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:10,200
had my own Minecraft server that
I started due to the server that

797
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,900
I used to play on just going 
down and I've always been into 

798
00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:16,800
technology The Internet of 
Things. 

799
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:20,500
Things, you know, if Ahmed, 
since since I got my first 

800
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:24,100
computer, if I'm at home, you 
know, I'm at the computer. 

801
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:27,500
I'm not doing anything else. 
Mmm, so that I was interested 

802
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:29,800
me, so it's like, hey like how 
does this all work? 

803
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,500
You know, how do you host your 
server? 

804
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:34,700
So then, you know, I started 
hosting my computer, it was 

805
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:37,000
supposed to be temporary. 
My connection wasn't good 

806
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000
enough. 
So I was like, let me try using 

807
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,000
a host and had it for a couple 
weeks. 

808
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,100
And then I was like, all right, 
the server, I used to play it, 

809
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:47,200
you know, usual, tell you on his
back up, time to go, but Then, 

810
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,500
all the other players on a 
server. 

811
00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:50,400
They're like, no, no, don't shut
it down. 

812
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,800
Like, we like it, we're ready, 
build stuff, blah blah. 

813
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,300
And I'm like, oh, and then I 
just felt bad. 

814
00:41:55,300 --> 00:41:56,300
So I was like, all right, I 
guess. 

815
00:41:56,300 --> 00:42:00,400
I can keep it around for, you 
know, maybe a month or two, I'll

816
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,900
pay for it and then and then 
yeah that just kept growing. 

817
00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:07,200
Then it kind of grew. 
We started to use, you know 

818
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,600
upgrade to the two, different 
servers using different host. 

819
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,900
We you know first said shared 
hosting, then a VPS server, then

820
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,300
a dedicated server then we 
Bought our own Hardware that we 

821
00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:22,000
call located and all through 
that, like, entire Journey. 

822
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:26,900
We kind of noticed that there is
not really great customer 

823
00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:31,900
support and like I love when 
like companies provide customer 

824
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:35,200
support always have and I was 
like, why is it so bad? 

825
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,700
I'm like we can definitely do a 
much better job. 

826
00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:40,900
Like what you know like why are 
these people tell me to Google 

827
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:43,700
something like I'm using their 
service on paying them money 

828
00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:46,600
like they should know, the more 
helpful, right? 

829
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,800
So, Then I, that's how I went, 
you know, to the co-founder 

830
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,200
Andrew, he's our CTO. 
So, he's in charge of old like 

831
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,800
the tech side of things, and I'm
kind of in charge of all the 

832
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,100
business side of things. 
I mean, I was like, hey, I'm 

833
00:42:58,100 --> 00:42:59,800
like, we should try doing this 
ourselves. 

834
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,400
Like just clearly a spot in the 
market for somebody that just 

835
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,500
provides much better support. 
And there we can stand out and 

836
00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:08,800
like, there's a couple of other 
features I had in mind that 

837
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,700
nobody had. 
Like, since day one, we've taken

838
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,500
seven days of backups of every 
single Minecraft server smart, 

839
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,200
it's More common now. 
But, you know, 11 years ago, 

840
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,600
nobody was doing that and I was 
like, we should and, and he was 

841
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,100
like, no. 
This is going to be like, much 

842
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:26,700
more expensive to serve is going
to be more expensive because we 

843
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:29,800
have to buy you, no more 
Hardware more drives but as I 

844
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,800
yeah but it's worth it because 
like I'm like how many times 

845
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,600
have we, you know, screwed 
something up on a server and we 

846
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,900
like we're kicking ourselves 
because we like wish we could go

847
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:39,600
back and he's like yeah, that's 
true. 

848
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,100
And I like since they want 
people like that was one of, you

849
00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:45,200
know, our customers favorite 
features back then it wasn't as 

850
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,900
fun though because we used To 
restore backups manually. 

851
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:51,000
So they had to create a support 
ticket. 

852
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,800
I'd obviously, like, eventually 
we had a system where they can 

853
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,000
do it themselves now but yeah. 
So just, you know, kind of saw 

854
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,400
an opportunity and then we went 
for it. 

855
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,300
I had a credit card to Newegg, I
was like, let's buy a bunch of 

856
00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:05,600
parts there. 
You know, if this, if this 

857
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:10,600
fails, it's a lot of money that 
bunch of student loans. 

858
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,400
And I'm like, this would be in 
addition, like, having all this 

859
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,600
money on this credit card, but 
it's, you know, It's not like it

860
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,900
wouldn't be, it would be tough. 
It wasn't going to be like wife 

861
00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:24,300
ruin and so we went for it. 
And then, you know, here we are 

862
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:27,100
today. 
Now 11 plus years later pretty 

863
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:29,500
wild. 
It's again, makes me think of 

864
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:32,900
Minecraft and how it changed my 
life because I didn't really 

865
00:44:32,900 --> 00:44:36,800
know what I wanted to do and 
just like so many other people 

866
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,000
that are content creators are 
are in the community, you want 

867
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,500
to in the other and they're able
to make you know, make people 

868
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:46,300
were like living income. 
Like from Minecraft one way or 

869
00:44:46,300 --> 00:44:47,500
another. 
It's wild. 

870
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:48,800
Yeah, sure. 
Mmm. 

871
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,500
And I can speak to the customer 
service because that's that's 

872
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:56,600
originally why I had chosen 
bisect hosting is, I was looking

873
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,300
at all the different hosting 
servers at the time. 

874
00:44:59,500 --> 00:45:02,700
And customer service was always 
my because I didn't know what I 

875
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:05,200
was doing. 
I was only hosting a server 

876
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,300
because I was playing on a 
server where people were getting

877
00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:11,800
bullied a lot and I was like, 
well forget this I'll just start

878
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,100
my own because people were like 
hey yeah, do do that, start your

879
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:18,000
own will come play. 
And I was like, I'm going to 

880
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,700
need someone who can hold my 
hand, because I have no clue 

881
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:24,500
what's going on here, and 
choosing you guys made the 

882
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:26,700
process. 
So, easy in the server ran 

883
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:31,200
smoothly for years, it was, it 
was amazing. 

884
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:34,300
And I would progress and I would
learn in. 

885
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,600
Like you said, I was editing 
modpacks myself and putting them

886
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,600
in and going, and it was great. 
It was a great experience. 

887
00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:47,300
It, I felt I grew as a server 
owner, every year, I had a ton 

888
00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:52,600
of mods who really appreciated 
the access and ease of use for 

889
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,500
everything. 
So you jumping on the customer 

890
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:57,900
service portion of it. 
Brilliant. 

891
00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:01,200
Yeah, I mean, at the end of the 
day like, you know, every host, 

892
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,100
you know, can have, we can all 
use the same data centers. 

893
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:07,000
We can use the same internet 
providers, you know, if you're 

894
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,300
renting servers, you know, it'll
be from the same people. 

895
00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:15,600
Like we can we don't have access
to special, you know, chips that

896
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,500
no one else has. 
I have access to magical Ram 

897
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:21,800
that makes, you know, Minecraft 
servers run better than anyone 

898
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,400
else. 
So I kind of laugh when there's 

899
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,300
like one host, advertise zero 
lag ever. 

900
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:31,000
I'm like with Minecraft, I'm 
like, you're like immediately 

901
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,400
line to the customer because 
like, yeah, you know, and then 

902
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,200
even like Andrew, he would be 
like, maybe we should add 

903
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,000
something, we have to her 
website and I'm like, no, I'm 

904
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,900
like, I just feel bad or even 
adding that or saying it because

905
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:46,500
it's Minecraft or, like any game
that you can. 

906
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,600
Add mods to her host yourself. 
Like you will run into issues, 

907
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,700
you will run into wag. 
It's just that, you know, bound 

908
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:54,500
to happen. 
So kind of guarantee. 

909
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:57,600
No, lag is strange. 
But you know, right? 

910
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,800
It's like where I was like, 
where we can shine is the 

911
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,500
customer service is like when 
the customer is frustrated, when

912
00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:06,400
they are having these issues. 
Yes, they're going to be upset, 

913
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,400
they're going to be blaming us 
and, you know, instead of 

914
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,800
blaming them back saying, oh, 
this is not her fault. 

915
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,600
This is, you know, this is a 
issue with this. 

916
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,700
Like we never do that. 
Be you know, like you said, we 

917
00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:22,800
do all the hand-holding they 
need and pretty much every 

918
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,900
single time, you know, once once
we resolve it once, it's 

919
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:28,200
explained, you know, we don't 
have to tell him that it wasn't 

920
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,800
an issue in Iran. 
They kind of see it. 

921
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,400
They start to understand it 
more. 

922
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,600
They start to understand why the
problem was caused, what it was 

923
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,700
caused by, how do we resolve it.
So, and they're like, so 

924
00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:41,500
thankful, you know, there's so 
many times, they think hard 

925
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:45,500
support staff in in the tickets 
for and then you know, apologize

926
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:48,500
for being mad for You know, 
screaming the screaming of them 

927
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:52,300
and all caps and everything and 
then just yeah, all those bad 

928
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:53,100
words. 
Yeah. 

929
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:56,300
And they just feel a lot more 
educated than in the future. 

930
00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:59,700
If something like this comes up 
again, you know, they're able to

931
00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:02,100
handle it themselves. 
Mmm, nice. 

932
00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:06,500
Yeah, that that was something I 
definitely remember when I send 

933
00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:10,400
a ticket for support and stuff 
it wasn't just a hey I fixed it 

934
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,400
for you. 
It's a hey this is what 

935
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,200
happened. 
This is why it went wrong. 

936
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,000
This is how we're going to fix 
it. 

937
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,900
So I Would learn from the 
process. 

938
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:23,300
And a lot of times I was fixing 
it before sending another ticket

939
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:26,800
later and I would only have to 
send tickets when I really was 

940
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,300
just frustrated. 
Yeah, we're always if we see you

941
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:33,500
like somebody from sport, you 
know, because because we do get 

942
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:36,400
busy, you know, especially on 
weekends, like our support team 

943
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,100
works like extremely hard. 
Like they truly do so which 

944
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:42,700
sometimes, you know, it's 
sometimes it's laziness, 

945
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:45,300
sometimes it's super busy, but 
they'll be like, oh, I, you 

946
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:46,600
know, made few changes in your 
circumstances. 

947
00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:48,700
Server. 
Like least try it out and like 

948
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:51,800
if we see that where I was like,
no that's like a big big know 

949
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,400
that you can now just tell him 
you made a few changes to check 

950
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,400
it. 
It's amazing you fix the issue 

951
00:48:56,500 --> 00:48:58,600
but that doesn't educate the 
customer. 

952
00:48:58,700 --> 00:49:01,300
It doesn't tell what happened. 
Why it happened? 

953
00:49:01,300 --> 00:49:06,100
You know that it's kind of at a 
like your they're back to square

954
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:09,800
one so I could it's always been 
super important for us to 

955
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:12,900
educate and and explain to them 
because we you know we want them

956
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:16,600
to understand because we much 
rather have a you know like yes.

957
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,900
Ready? 
We already have their money so 

958
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,700
so that we but we're not going 
to care about them, but like 

959
00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:23,600
that's a hundred percent, you 
know, not true. 

960
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,600
Like we rather have a customer 
that sticks with us for in the 

961
00:49:27,607 --> 00:49:30,700
long term and that, obviously, 
that's, that's great for 

962
00:49:30,700 --> 00:49:34,000
business but also like it's 
amazing for that person because 

963
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,100
they're going to learn so much 
more because I feel like hosts 

964
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:43,400
have a huge responsibility just 
for the community because if 

965
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:46,200
we're losing customers, because 
they're frustrated, because they

966
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,000
don't know. 
How to do something there's 

967
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,600
going to leave and that's just 
bad for the entire Community 

968
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:55,100
versus maybe, you know, for this
person that we spend a little 

969
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:59,200
bit of extra time hand-holding, 
explain it to them, it might 

970
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,500
like turn around their entire 
perspective of hosting a server 

971
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:05,800
and I like, you never know, like
they might be the next like big 

972
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,800
developer of a plug-in, a mod 
pack. 

973
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,200
There could be like a content 
creator in the future because 

974
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,200
they know they truly fall in 
love with it but if instead you 

975
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,900
know, they have a bad experience
and leave You know, not only, 

976
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:20,200
they're gonna leave us. 
There are, you know, 

977
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,800
potentially, they'll just stop 
playing the game, which is, you 

978
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,200
know, bad for everyone. 
Like, I've always said this 

979
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,600
community is like a, it's like a
what goes around comes around. 

980
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,500
It's like a, you know, big 
circle like what we do can 

981
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:33,800
affect the game, like, you know,
what's going on with Minecraft, 

982
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,100
what's Mojang doing? 
And in fact us, yeah, like get 

983
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:41,500
itself is a right. 
So it's one big giant ecosystem.

984
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:42,700
Mmm. 
Yeah. 

985
00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:45,700
And you hidden around the head 
with hosting and stuff when I 

986
00:50:45,707 --> 00:50:48,500
decided to To use you guys to 
start comic crafts and 

987
00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:50,500
everything. 
I was doing it for a while and I

988
00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:52,500
had someone come up to me and 
thanked me. 

989
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:55,100
I was like, yeah, no problem for
the most part, I just 

990
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:57,200
considered. 
I was just paying the bills. 

991
00:50:57,300 --> 00:50:59,100
No, big deal. 
I wanted to play with friends, 

992
00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:01,000
so yeah, sure great and they're 
like, no, no, you don't 

993
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,300
understand. 
Like I work long hours, I have a

994
00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:06,700
hard job, I come home and all I 
want to do is play Minecraft 

995
00:51:06,700 --> 00:51:11,100
with friends and you make sure I
can play the game freely and 

996
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:15,600
fun, and not have to worry about
things like leg or someone just 

997
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,000
trolling my base. 
And destroying it and stuff. 

998
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:21,500
And so I then took that 
responsibility seriously and 

999
00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:25,900
having you guys had my back 
making sure my server was 

1000
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:29,500
running at the maximum ability. 
Made the process so much easier.

1001
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,200
Now this, I mean like when 
people are in servers, it's 

1002
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,300
their own, you know, the build 
their little online communities 

1003
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:38,600
and they, you know, become 
friends like some of them. 

1004
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:43,100
You know, I've known people from
my original server that I still 

1005
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:46,200
talk to now and it's like, I've 
never met him. 

1006
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:51,200
You know it real life ever but 
it's still like they feel like 

1007
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,800
there's like closeness to it. 
No matter what and enduring 

1008
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,600
covid like for what around a 
year or so it was amazing to be 

1009
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,500
able to hang out with these 
people in some way. 

1010
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:04,800
You know you could you couldn't 
hang out with people in person 

1011
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,900
but at least we were able to 
hang out with them online. 

1012
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:11,100
So I think it was an outlet for 
so many people even more than it

1013
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:12,500
is now. 
Oh yeah sure. 

1014
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,600
Especially going through a 
pandemic last couple years. 

1015
00:52:15,607 --> 00:52:20,300
It's been Massive thing 
definitely hear me does have it 

1016
00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:24,000
met in real life and there were 
pretty close guaranteed me and 

1017
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,600
Jimbo talk at least every other 
day. 

1018
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,700
Hmm, are you guys at a same 
stator how far you pretty close 

1019
00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:32,700
actually East Coast. 
Yeah. 

1020
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:35,400
We're by eight hours away from 
each other and you guys never 

1021
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:36,100
bad. 
How long do you know? 

1022
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:39,700
Each other Jimbo actually joined
commie craft about a year for 

1023
00:52:39,700 --> 00:52:41,500
ten. 
So how long has it been? 

1024
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,200
Was it five or six years? 
Now it has to be at least five. 

1025
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,900
Oh my God you guys. 
As you guys have to meet. 

1026
00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:51,700
Hmm. 
Oh eventually we wanted to do 

1027
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,900
Minecraft live. 
Yes, but it's an online thing. 

1028
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:03,000
Yeah, they do have tables for 
podcasts and Minecraft news 

1029
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:06,200
General. 
But yeah, we're hoping if they 

1030
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,900
do have a live event in person, 
we'd be able to get it table. 

1031
00:53:09,900 --> 00:53:12,400
Be able to do the show there. 
Yeah, be a lot of fun. 

1032
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:15,300
Finally, I'm telling you guys 
but like you know everybody that

1033
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:21,000
works for us as So until like 
earlier this year or no, it was 

1034
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,800
enough of a December. 
I don't remember not too long 

1035
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,900
ago was like be. 
So before that I've only met my 

1036
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:32,600
business partner Andrew because 
you know, at first I was like, 

1037
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,900
look, I'm like if we're doing 
this like we should probably 

1038
00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:38,100
meet because he lives in the UK,
by the way, and I'm in the u.s. 

1039
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:41,900
so that made it, you know, 
mmm-hmm it was a little bit more

1040
00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:46,300
complicated, but I did meet him 
a few times went to his wedding 

1041
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,700
and Everything. 
Well, nice. 

1042
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,400
And but I've literally never met
any other single person. 

1043
00:53:53,900 --> 00:53:57,000
You know, the entire company. 
And then we had a little, we 

1044
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,700
have a bunch of people. 
The kind of live somewhat close 

1045
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:02,400
together on the east side of the
country. 

1046
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,400
Like Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania
area. 

1047
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,200
So we like did a small 
get-together and it was, it was 

1048
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,000
great. 
It was really a, I was like, 

1049
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,000
wow, I'm like, I can't believe, 
you know, it took 10 years for 

1050
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,400
the for me to meet more than one
person from the Yeah, that's 

1051
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,000
pretty cool. 
Yeah, for us Carl our digital 

1052
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,200
producer, he's in the UK also 
and the crazy thing is the 

1053
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,700
reason Carl works so well with 
us is we basically call Carla 

1054
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:33,300
vampire. 
He's on us time. 

1055
00:54:33,500 --> 00:54:36,100
He's up during the night sleeps 
during the day. 

1056
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,600
Pretty sure he's a vampire. 
Yeah. 

1057
00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:42,000
So it just so happened to our. 
The way our times met up. 

1058
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,700
We were constantly playing the 
game with each other and then we

1059
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:48,600
started doing this. 
This podcast and car was like, 

1060
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,400
Hey you know all that stuff you 
don't like doing like filling 

1061
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,900
out descriptions in the show 
doing thumbnails and stuff. 

1062
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,100
Carl's like oh man, I love doing
that. 

1063
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,000
So he's good at it, he's very 
good at it. 

1064
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,000
It was actually super helpful 
for us for Andre to be like for 

1065
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,600
us to be so far apart. 
Because when we started for the 

1066
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,300
first, you know, like year year 
and a half it was just us. 

1067
00:55:11,300 --> 00:55:13,400
So like we were handling 
everything. 

1068
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,300
We were doing. 
Mmm, even back then we still had

1069
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,100
24/7 support like, since day 
one. 

1070
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,600
But it was just me and Andrew, 
like, I would, you know, would 

1071
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,800
cover the first basically, 12 
hours. 

1072
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,300
And he would do the next 24 
hours and I don't know what 

1073
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:30,300
would we have done if we both 
lived in the US for both lived 

1074
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:31,800
in Europe. 
Oh yeah. 

1075
00:55:31,900 --> 00:55:35,600
Thankfully like the the distance
the time distance between us did

1076
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,400
help because you know I would be
like okay it's I lived on the 

1077
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,900
East like on the eastern time 
back then so I was like all 

1078
00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:46,500
right it's you know 2:00 my time
was 7. 

1079
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,000
O'clock his time. 
So, I'm like time to go to bed 

1080
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,800
and then do it all over next 
day. 

1081
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,000
And yeah, that is pretty 
convenient, convenient. 

1082
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,400
Yeah. 
But it was so much work because 

1083
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,500
I also had like, well, I had two
jobs going to school so it was a

1084
00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:01,000
it was a rough. 
Yeah. 

1085
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,900
Wow it's true. 
That's why I had bad grades. 

1086
00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:09,600
I had one more question. 
The bisect hosting name? 

1087
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,500
Oh yes, we got it. 
We got go over that. 

1088
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:12,900
Yes. 
Where did that? 

1089
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:16,300
Where did the name come from? 
But story is we used to be? 

1090
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:19,500
We started as the Minecraft 
host.com. 

1091
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:25,300
Then we got contacted by Mojang 
lawyers and they were like two 

1092
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:27,700
official, even though you have 
plenty of companies. 

1093
00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:30,700
Now that have pretty name close 
that names that are pretty close

1094
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:32,400
to that. 
And you know, they just look 

1095
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,400
past it, so then we became Pro 
Minecraft house.com and at that 

1096
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,900
point then we were like adding 
more games other than Minecraft.

1097
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:44,700
And we were like probably for, 
you know, the long-term of for 

1098
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:47,100
the company's sake we should 
probably They get rid of the 

1099
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:50,700
name Minecraft. 
Mmm out of the company's name a 

1100
00:56:50,707 --> 00:56:54,300
while. 
Amazing for SEO, not very good 

1101
00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:57,800
for, you know, for copy 
possible, copyright infringement

1102
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,900
or like Mojang having issues. 
Yeah. 

1103
00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:04,300
So then the more lawyers I 
wanted something that kind of 

1104
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,000
like real word but like made 
sense but didn't made sense like

1105
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,300
you have a lot of these 
companies where you like, the 

1106
00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:14,800
name is a, it's a like a real 
real word or whatever, but you 

1107
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,200
say it so many times it. 
Kind of it just becomes that 

1108
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,900
brand and nothing else, right? 
We're obviously nowhere near 

1109
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:24,200
that level. 
So then I was just like deep in 

1110
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,500
my Google searching for like 
random turns. 

1111
00:57:26,500 --> 00:57:29,900
And I think what happened 
eventually as I Google like 

1112
00:57:29,900 --> 00:57:33,600
mathematical xand like 
mathematical in science terms 

1113
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,100
and one of them was by SEC just 
like it, which means, like 

1114
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,900
something is that split into two
parts and as I kind of like how 

1115
00:57:40,900 --> 00:57:44,100
it sounds bisect hosting and I'm
like, it's mean Andrew the 

1116
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:46,400
company's divided into was 
started by two people. 

1117
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,100
People, mmm. 
And I'm like, let's just go with

1118
00:57:49,100 --> 00:57:51,400
that. 
And then so not a very cooler, 

1119
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,000
exciting story, but that's how 
it happened. 

1120
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,900
Now I was asking because it does
roll off the tongue. 

1121
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,100
Yeah, it works like, you know, 
you don't have to think burn 

1122
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:03,200
twice about it. 
Also I'd related or somewhat 

1123
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,500
related. 
I'm very excited because I just 

1124
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got a custom license plate for 
my car that says by SEC. 

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Because it was available, and I 
was very, very excited. 

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Like a child nice. 
You had to jump on that. 

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Yeah, so I do want to remind The
audience that Max is offering 

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our community, 25% off on any by
sick Game servers for their 

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first month. 
This is for new clients, only 

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visit bisect, hosting.com Twee 
and use the code twe at checkout

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to receive the discount again, 
one more time. 

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Thank you so much for the code 
Max. 

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00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,800
Yeah, of course, happy to do it 
for you guys but I think that's 

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going to do it for today's show 
before I have Jimbo reaches out.

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I want to say a huge thank you 
to all of our patrons who are 

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Porting the show, our milk level
patrons are Arrington. 

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Omni Bobo, plays games, fragile,
rock Loki, and athletic. 

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Please consider joining at 

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1141
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,800
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00:59:06,700 --> 00:59:08,500
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Doing any of these really helps 
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You'd like to get in contact 
with us. 

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An email to podcast at the 
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00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,600
Leave a voice message or join 
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00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,400
chat with everyone who works on 
the show and fellow listeners. 

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00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:29,000
All the links are in the show. 
Note, this show has been brought

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to you by Jimbo myself and also 
our special guest. 

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00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,500
Max, thank you so much. 
Yes, thank you for joining us. 

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Thanks for having me, guys. 
No problem. 

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Our digital producer is Carl. 
He helps make sure the show ends

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up, where it should be and the 
Amazing Music. 

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00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,700
You hear it. 
Throughout the show is created 

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00:59:43,700 --> 00:59:46,400
by the one and only decoy 
everyone social media. 

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Info can be found in the show 
notes. 

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You guys have an awesome. 
Thank you so much for getting 

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00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:52,000
where their drugs us? 
Franco drink your milk now. 

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00:59:52,200 --> 01:00:11,800
Alright, see you guys. 
Hey, you guys want a free car 

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01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,600
out real quick? 
Let's do it. 

1163
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,700
Hey, Carl! 
The backup computer audacity 

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01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:17,200
stopped working. 
I lost all of it. 

1165
01:00:17,500 --> 01:00:21,800
Oh, Carl is just crapped 
himself. 

1166
01:00:23,300 --> 01:00:25,600
He doesn't even know it yet, 
doesn't it? 

1167
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,300
It was. 
His 21 were pretty close to time

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01:00:28,300 --> 01:00:30,600
as it is now. 
And because this has stopped 

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01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,600
working. 
I kind of want to wrap it up. 

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01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,600
So at least, we can definitely 
have a backup for the post-show.

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01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,000
Oh, you weren't kidding. 
I'm not kidding. 

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01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:42,400
Back up, like, just straight up.
I looked over and it, that's it.

1173
01:00:42,408 --> 01:00:44,800
Literally popped up and said, 
but there is an error with this 

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01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,300
program is closed program. 
Yep. 

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01:00:48,500 --> 01:00:49,100
Oh no.