Hey everybody. Welcome to the Wither effect.
Today is episode 4 on July 8 2019.
I am Duds also known the Duds versus a most media circles and
I'm bunk out of apple or bank for sure.
And today we're off of special guests with us to talk about to
Minecraft. Welcome garl.
Nice to see you to get. Riddled with us.
But if you have been up to this week, I'll well this week.
I have been very very busy on the ripple effect server.
I've been sorting out the buildings and the Redstone over
our new Capture the Flag PVP area that East Road anchors cat
is beautifully landscaping for us as I speak.
And I've also been building up my for module iron farm that's
going to be in my next video and you don't want to miss that
because I kill a lots of villages and a lot of zombies
trying to build up that farm and that's what I've been working on
this week. And from what I could tell from
the picture is trying to crash the server.
Oh, yeah, I literally logged in yesterday and there was just I
Golems everywhere and I don't understand why because my base
wasn't loaded. I'd literally logged off and
there was no golems and I logged in and there was like 50 just
around the farm. It was it was mental.
Yeah this week. I've been doing a lot of bass
work. I don't think I've left the
Basin like two weeks or whatever, but it was actually
the beginning of my multiple streams a week and kind of
skipping and episode week and it's been working out pretty
well. I've enjoyed it.
I've been bouncing around from Project to project which is
something I don't normally do but I have enjoyed that plus I'm
closing in on 500 followers. I'll make sure I think I like
eight away. That's really nice.
What about you bank? I have a quite a busy week in
real life yet again, like one work they of 12 hours, which was
insane, but now I got the fication so I should have a lot
more time. I didn't work around my base a
little bit just a bit of decoration just like last week,
but now that is vacation. I'm I said upstream and get that
going a little bit see how that works.
I q-- streams. No big promises yet, but you
know I should have the time so they could be fun.
That's Checkmate better stream. Yeah, I'll announce it on
Twitter and that kind of stuff when I get ready to it.
Do it Bank do it now not right now. alright, so let's go ahead
and just get into the Minecraft news because it's light news
technically compared to what we're used to so pretty really
is to for 114 for has come out this release the like we're just
going to do the big heavy hitter bug fixes and stuff villagers
now stock more items villagers will now remember their gossip
after becoming a zombie villager improved performance for or of
villager pathfinding villagers can now Work without also
restocking at the same time gossip about players who
converted a zombie villager will now last longer and player
activity button on realm screen has been removed thoughts.
Not particularly. Yeah improved performance of
villager pathfinding still one. I'm kind of like Yay because I
plan on building a better trading Hall in my base and I
saw that that that was giving a little bit of a pain to a lot of
players. Oh, yes.
That is that's a big problem. What I said was a thing that
fixed. Yeah.
I'm kind of excited when I set up my Village a trading halt.
I find that the villagers will Li literally lock on to work
stations on the other side of the trading halt.
I had to go around and put double carpet in and let them
all out when it's work time to move about and stuff.
It was so annoying. So I'm glad Fix that one.
Yeah, we got it does sound like a nice fix indeed.
I don't think any of us your play realm so pens just another
are fix that we're not too worried about.
The gossip lasting longer will be nice, but I don't even really
know the original and timeframe it last.
I haven't really played around with the Villagers yet and 1.14.
So it's all haven't really looked into all that stuff yet.
So it's pretty pretty news to me all together.
Yeah. What about you Carl?
You said something about villagers now stock more items.
Yeah, just just on that zombie villager thing for a minute.
I didn't realize there was a time limit on it.
So that's that's interesting that there is because I cured a
zombie villager and then got into talk to all my guys.
I wondered why some of them didn't you know, go down in
trade price. So it's good that it's now
longer on that one going back to as you say the more store this
stock more items. I watched a video by doc M77 who
showed that this current pre-release.
Anyway, it's only Villages that are created in 114 for that get
the bump trades if you have Villages that are from Teen free
or 114 two or even one 13 then they don't actually get that
bump. They stay the same as they did
in the previous version. And I could see that I mean it's
hard to was a back program a villager that's already been
created and had his trades locked and things like that.
I wouldn't expect that to be technically what fixed for 114
for I kind of assumed that just the way villagers will be moving
forward. Yeah, most probably I would have
thought it was like some on the underlying coding for the
villagers that it would do it. But it seems as you say that
it's / villager and I think that goes back to when they added the
114 Villages and they needed a way to separate them from the
113 villagers. I think.
Where that that code comes in and that's why it's separate
between the versions that you also we have a ask Mojang video
series. I know nothing of this.
What do you guys know? I also know nothing but it
sounds like they're gonna do a video series themselves for the
answer questions or something. Yeah.
I think Mojang has been criticized for not being very
transparent, especially with the one 14 release and how badly
that went and the not really saying much about it.
And I think this is their kind of way of putting that right is
to ask for questions using the ask Mojang hashtag and taking
questions from the community and actually answering themselves in
a video series and I think that's kind of their way of
getting back with the community after one for teens main
release. Okay, hashtag.
Ask for Yang. Have you listen to episode 3 of
the podcast take anything from episode 3 to improve Minecraft
in just use it. You have our permission though.
I would like a Duds Easter egg in there somewhere.
That's a good one. Dude last podcast.
I thought we did a lot of great work again how we would improve.
Yeah, we came up with a little fun stuff.
Especially those fireflies. They still stick their I know
right? I would love some fireflies.
There was some really good ideas in that podcast.
It was it was brilliant the creativity you guys were coming
up with last week was just brilliant.
Tiny Minecraft Geniuses right here should do that more often.
I guess coming up with ideas for Minecraft we should is there
should be like a monthly podcast. in itself and we just
steal ideas for a certain aspect of the game.
Yeah. Oh trust me.
I I told bank one before we started the stream or this
podcast and I'm thinking about making it next week's podcast
title. Sure.
Let's do it. But we do have some listener
comments to move on to and Carl. This is all you written all over
it. I'ma let you take this one.
Yeah. It's a lot of my stuff in the
the first section here and welcome to Whether this past
Sunday the 7th of July was the Ripple effects birthday.
Well one well while the other day and as as a celebration of
that over the next 12 days from the date, we're recording this
there will be images on our social media channels which are
in the show notes showing off some of the great builds from
the server. So we've got our and Island
coming up. We've got the nether Hub coming
up. We have the which Farms which
are amazing. So make sure you follow us on
social media to see some of those pictures up there and
that's all leading to a stream day that we're looking to have
on the 20th of July. We haven't confirmed any times
yet, but I'm sure you guys will have some information on that in
next week's podcast. Yes, I can't wait.
I love the stream days. Those are really fun.
We should definitely be doing a lot more of them.
Definitely. Yeah, maybe I'll be streaming
separate need this time as well. Oh thanks videos.
Maybe we should get you on the 20th Bank.
Yeah, that's the stream they right.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay.
That's Bank confirmed for the streamed a later date confirmed.
Okay, but let's go ahead and start moving on to some of our
main topics of his final cast. So the way we've done it this
week is a little bit different each one of us has come up with
a topic we're going to talk about so my topic this week is
called so you want to play Minecraft Minecraft has Really
come around and become a huge world win again after being
basically dormant for I want to say three years kind of one of
those games that yeah, people are playing it, but it's not all
over the place and then all of a sudden now you have these really
large YouTubers and twitch streamers coming back to
Minecraft. What started that I don't know
but I'm sitting here and I'm watching some of these guys and
they are struggling in the game. mmmmm, and I mean like what I
would consider basic day one items like I don't know they
find a zombie spawner and they have no clue what to do with
this. So they just break it and you
know, I'm just sitting there staring at the screen going.
What are you doing? Just little things like that.
And so this topic was like if you could talk to these guys and
tell them how you learned to play What Would it be like for
me the way I learned to play Minecraft was watching a ton of
lets players. YouTube's and stream and you got
to try the different platforms. Don't just do YouTube.
Don't just do twitch go to mixer.
Also, you got to have guys all over the place because everybody
plays differently and you need to find out how you want to play
and find someone who's playing a lot like you and kind of I
wouldn't say copy, but let that be your inspiration.
The other thing is you also got to know who's a troll and who's
not a troll because I watched guys.
I don't know day after day donate $5 and say hey if you
have silk touch on pickaxe, you can silk touch that spawner.
And it's like no, he's playing vanilla, you know, he's playing
vanilla because it's in the title and you just tricked him
into breaking a spawner for five dollars.
Not cool. What about you Bank?
How did you learn to play Minecraft?
Well those it's definitely an interesting experience skills.
Well, I play I played a lot of games and it took a while before
I started on Minecraft. And and one thing I definitely
never did was look up on how to play a game.
I would just play it and I'd figure it out and usually get a
tutorial which you can do first, but with Minecraft I was in the
game and it's like what? I don't know nothing.
They explain nothing at all. Yeah, it's a shove you in the
deep end. Yeah, so I just I had to Google
stuff which which then let me do the Minecraft Wiki which was and
still is an amazing resource. I think and that that they have
like little videos and stuff which then let me to YouTube
where I found obviously YouTubers who helped me along
and all that sort of sort of guided me, but it was it was a
strange sort of experience go. Because you basically had to
Google how to play the game which was interesting and they
came a long way from there because now they have like sort
of a tutorial and the crafting book that gives you just all the
you know, crafting recipes. You don't have to Google those
which is nice. Yeah.
Go back to seeing some of these
guys come back the fact that they see that little green book
in the crafting menu and they don't know to open it and then
when they do like the little light bulb Above their head and
saying oh, so that's what this does.
I can do all these things now and then they find out that the
red shaded Box means you can't do that right now.
Yeah, pretty much. I mean it's still not perfect.
Like you said they still have to figure out how to open the
crafting book and stuff, but it's so much better than it used
to be. It really is.
What about you Carl house? I was just for you when I first
got into Minecraft. He was kind of by accident.
I was so long ago now, but I was on YouTube and I came across.
This videos on Stampy's Lovely World, if any of you Aviva
review of ever watched any of those and then from there, I
found Mumbo and the hermitcraft group and then came across this
in and that's how I got on to the ripple effect.
Well, it was late loud guy at the time and then we moved over
to the ripple effect. And in terms of how I went about
finding out things as you say back then we didn't have the
crafting book and As someone who played Minecraft without it when
they added it. I was a little bit like I don't
know if I like this or not because I kind of enjoyed the
finding things out rather than looking it up, but when I did
need to look it up, obviously as you say the wiki tutorials Let's
Plays are definitely the way to go and that's where content
creators come in as you were saying and that's where you know
People Like Us come in and the podcast and things like that as
well to kind of help. People long in that journey, and
that's that's kind of how I got started in Minecraft.
I'm thinking for like a good podcast topic might be day 1
Minecraft. What do you do like that could
be a fun topic definitely to kind of cover a beginning
tutorial you listen to us for an hour talk and we'll get you
through day one. No problem.
Little bad idea. Actually, we'll have to throw
that in our ideas list. Yeah.
All right by bank, I think your topics up next what you got.
So I'm quite a minimal going the guy I guess a Minecraft.
Uh-huh. So my base doesn't doesn't have
that much Eugenie and that gave me an idea like what's what's in
your essential Minecraft base goes from E.
It's pretty much an analogous and a bit and then they could be
dumb. I mean, yes you chests would be
nice, but I don't That many because I met ender chest is
basically my storage usually and then for the rest, I can go out
of things quite quickly. It's not too much work.
I think so. Basically you're saying you live
in a tent pretty much. I mean, I I built bigger things
just to sort of for the fan of building it right and decoration
and the kind of stuff but I don't need that much just actual
essential stuff as well. Normally I play on the server so
so We're going to spoiled for Farms right normally.
Yeah, well do do build and then I've built one or two, but you
know, you can share a lot which is awesome.
If I wouldn't play on the server though, I definitely have some
kind of food farm and like an iron farm.
Those are definitely kind of essential things to have.
Yeah. I was curious.
What do you guys because I know you guys are a bit more
elaborate on that kind of stuff. Yeah, I am.
I'm really a lover becomes that stuff.
So a storage room is basically the first room I build in a
base. Once I have the general shape of
a base. I want to build which is usually
inside of a mountain if anybody's watched any of my
videos for any amount of time. I'm inside a mountain.
Yep. And the way I do the storage
room is I like to have the blocks kind of laid out in front
of me. So even if it's not every
individual block, I want to see the plank versions of the woods
so I can get color palettes and I'll put stone blocks in your
stone blocks or craftable blocks near craftable blocks and dies
near like wolves and concrete stuff like that because there
are many times. I'll sit there like, okay.
I want to build this room. I need a pallet.
So I just go and stand and my storage section.
And stare and it's like 15 minutes of my guy not moving,
but it's just looking at my storage room, but that's how I
create pallets. So the storage room is just a
super essential room for me. And I mean that's where you have
the auto furnace. I've got trash cans built in
there. I usually have some kind of
overflow storage built in stuff like that.
Now when it goes on to building Farms, I love building Farms,
but I'm always super conscious of server lag.
So all my Farms are relatively on a small scale and that's
because I sit for 15 minutes in front of my storage room looking
at my pallets. So the Farms are just kind of
always running in the background.
They're not really doing a lot of cause I'm not going to get a
double chest of items in an hour not a single one of my farm.
I can do that. It's the way I don't I mean I
built a celt form that is I've already filled up three shoukry
boxes full of dried kelp blocks and it's like at this point.
I just go ahead and start throwing these things away
because obviously I don't need anymore.
I'm probably good all season same with my wolf are my boot a
wolf alarm a couple episodes ago.
Well, they're double chests are practically filled out.
So I'm going around and I'm shutting the wolf arms off.
It's just I don't believe in large-scale farms unless their
Community wise and so I'll design my base around tiny Farms
heck I built a single cell iron farm for the first time at this
base because we weren't going to have a large-scale iron farm for
a while. But then Magoo and Carlock built
a giant iron farm. We're giving it away, but that's
different. Plus.
I just started building aesthetically in my It's usually
if it wasn't functional I didn't build it and this is kind of the
first season. I'm pushing into the aesthetic
ideas of an essential Minecraft build.
What about you Carl? So in terms of storage most
things I keep in my Ender Chest a lot like bank, but I have like
a color-coded and numbered system that's based on exhume
avoid system and I've kind of like improved it from my point
of view and there's a a video of that on my YouTube channel and I
basically keep everything in there from my diamonds right
through to every kind of wood every wool concrete terracotta
everything in there. And that's so if I go to an area
and want to build something I can grab a few schalke boxes out
of there. And as you say put up a color
palette of blocks open them up have a look through see what
goes with what and then if I need more resources.
I'll go back to my base. Where I usually use manual
storage systems, I get quite sort of a therapeutic feeling
from tidying and organizing things into chest just like I do
in real life really kind of like organizing stuff is really, you
know is really good for me and that's what I like to do in
Minecraft as well. So I'm not a massive fan
personally of automated storage systems.
And the good for like bulk blocks like the and Cobble and
stone and all that kind of stuff, but for every other item,
I personally like to sort of do it manually.
It's kind of something. I like to do in terms of farms
again, like I like small farms as well, but run sort of all the
time in my base rather than massive Farms that I run every
now and again and like the server to death and then in
terms of So that they give me a constant stream of items then
instead of having a big Harvest all at once right you are saying
with your wolf arm. I'm having the exact same
problem with mine. I now have double chests and
shulker boxes full of purple wool and you don't what I don't
need any purple wall. Let's think about it going from
this kind of situation in 113 wear wool was one of the hardest
things to come across because it was Emmanuel Farm.
Yes, you could set up some kind of a FK system for it.
But it was you know, it was a manual Farm in its Essence and
to come into 114 and having that all automated now and just shows
you kind of the kind of progress that Minecraft is coming into
with Automation and it means that now we can build anything
out of wall where before it was really hard to get we've now got
an abundance of it. That's kind of how I got into
Minecraft. What I like to do with my bass
and stuff. Yeah, I would love to see them
take more automation steps Like the Wolf arm was completely out
of left field when I saw 114 and I want more of that and thanks
to my neighbor who decided to mow his yard at this random time
of day and I don't have a big yard.
So he is literally like right outside my wall.
So if you guys can hear that in the background the podcast say
thanks Jerry. It's all his fault.
It's Jerry. Name is Jerry.
That's awesome David. So I immediately picture that
dude from my camera ready. Yeah, he doesn't look like that
but it kind of feels like that. That's amazing.
I'm pretty sure yeah pretty sure he's doing it because I heard
his wife yelling at him when I pulled into the driveway this
afternoon. So it's one of those moments
where yeah. Yeah.
Yeah going through the topic.
Yeah, I noticed something which hadn't really noticed before but
we all seem to have sort of similar build style like you
like to look through the blocks to create sort of a palette and
you like to stand in your storage room and create a
palette and then start building I guess.
Yep and myself and I guess that's why I keep like my under
chest as a storage my I'd like to have to the surrounding and
the building. Self sort of create the pallets
of like to have all those blocks around and being able to look at
it just like Carl set and it's kind of interesting that the way
you kind of build stuff makes how you do your storage because
storage as always and you know, it's always a big discussion in
Minecraft and how you do it. So many ideas on how you can do
it and this sort of gives it an extra interesting insight into
it. Like why people do certain types
of storage Roaches. Yeah, I mean for this season, I
really thought about how I get ready for a project.
How do I go build something and I have found the way I normally
do things is I grab a bunch of random blocks Phil Show lockers
full of blocks go build something come back.
And now I have these shoulder boxes full of random blocks.
So the way this season is I was said, I'm having an automated
storage system. I don't care for breaks every
month. Which it basically does cuz I'm
stupid. I will not blame the automated
storage system. It works just fine when I'm not
stupid. But yeah, I can I could
literally just throw a bunch of soccer boxes into this shocker
Crusher thing. I came up with is Joker box
unloader per se and it just runs automatically through the
system. It puts everything back nice and
eat everything is exactly where I know it's going to be because
of automated machine does it now the downfall is if I have two
full show Curb? Axes that I need to run through
this machine. I better be prepared to sit
there for 30 minutes to let it work and that sometimes stinks
but a lot of times I found at the end of a project and doing
it. I I'll just throw my choker
boxes into the machine and I start editing the clips and
stuff I have done and it really works out pretty well in the
lineup when I'm done editing. The machine is done.
So I've really enjoyed my setup. I think every season from now on
I will have some form of this setup going forward.
All right. Yeah, that's that's kind of so
you clean up your books. Yes.
I like to keep them around for a bit of all the random stuff in
it as it were because if I want to continue building and that
same area on the same thing or when I just adore whatever I
still have the building blocks and usually a few you gonna
build near it you gonna use the same kind of stuff anyway, so I
always the more I sort of build that a place the more I get like
a specified books for it. Yeah, and then when I'm really
don't know I'll clean it up or I'll put the box somewhere else
or whatever and I found I've done that a lot with outside my
castle exactly what you were saying is because out front of
the keep is just a constant. Well, I'm going to spend 30
minutes re doing some Landscapes or I'm going to build a quick
little house or I'm going to do some lighting effects, maybe
build a custom tree. So I do have boxes spread out in
that region. But that's right in front of the
base and to me that's still kind of inside area.
So I'm not really counting that. Fair enough.
I mean, I guess the further you go the less of a storage you got
you don't want to run up and down all the time.
Right but I do that and it keeps in Marla's Rocket Shop in
business because I'm pretty sure I buy him out of rockets all the
time. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's I mean even though I got this system.
I still travel around a little bit in my base and I Do by my
fair share of rockets as well. Yeah.
Well did I think I went this. Last month without really buying
any Rockets because you basically couldn't fly in the
nether know and yeah, it was awful mastic.
So hopeful just flying into unloaded chunks and just like
seeing pigment and lava or just being stuck there and wondering
whether you could have Plum it into the lava or whether it's
actually going to load was one of the most freaky things ever
and being able to fly now is really good.
I Was pretty sure they were supposed to fix chunk loading
and I'm pretty sure I remember them saying Oh, yeah, Chuck one
is fixed. And that's why we updated and
it's just as bad as it was. I think it's 114 phrase slightly
better in the never for me anyway, but yeah, the chunk
loading in the Overworld sometimes is really bad still
and it's something that they I'm sure they're still working on it
now with In for these updates are coming thick and fast now, I
think they realize that they've got a lot of issues with the new
rendering engines and the new light in engines that they
implemented in 114 and I think all of these kind of problems
will be fixed properly eventually and I think that's
why it helps that a lot of these big name YouTubers and streamers
are coming back to Minecraft because the light is on Mojang.
It's like hey fixture stuff. There's a lot of people looking
at your game right now. They don't want to see a bugged
out version of it. Yeah, the amount of bad PR they
got from hermitcraft Over. The initial release of 114 was
just astronomical the amount of videos that were coming out from
that group and you know millions of people watch hermitcraft and
you know, seeing the game from that point of view cannot be
good for sales and for people wanting to try Minecraft again,
so I think they really know that they Need to get on it with
this. Yeah, for sure and let's not
forget that what was it at? 113 Minecon are the first
Minecraft Earth. That's now not Minecraft Earth.
That's not mine con live who knows they promised to releases
every year. Did you really believe that
thoughts did you really believe? No, I didn't believe it at all.
But that's what they promised and I went.
Yeah, right and here we are. We get one release a year and
it's extremely buggy and mowing used to step it up.
I mean going on the on the thing of State they got they got a lot
of light on them. And even though the bad
negativity I heard on the radio the other pay that apparently
Minecraft past Fortnight again. Yep.
Sure. There's definitely a big
increase in players on Minecraft again trying to cool.
But yeah, they got to fix that stuff.
Yeah. I love that Minecraft's getting
all this publicity because I still think it's the best game
out there. Granted there's games that do
stuff better but in an all-around package, you can't do
as much in other games as you can do in Minecraft.
Definitely. Yeah and kind of the community
aspects of Minecraft, you know, we as a group The ripple effect,
we could be playing any game, but we choose to play Minecraft
and we all get on so well and it's brought us all together for
Right across the world from the USA to Europe to Australia.
It's brought all of us together and we're all great friends and
that has happened because of Minecraft and that's something
very powerful that not a lot of games can claim.
Yeah, well put I think this perfectly is going to lead us
into the next topic and that is the future of Minecraft Java
Carl. This is all yours.
Take it away. Yeah, I kind of was thinking
about this when Bedrock came out and since Minecraft was bought
by Microsoft in 2014. With the introduction of the
Bedrock Edition for Windows 10 mobile and console and they've
kind of gone to this kind of area now where they're starting
to sell things and with mashup parks and resource packs and
it's all tied to Xbox and Microsoft platforms and we've
Bedrock not being available on Mac not been available in Linux.
Oh kind of wanted to get your guy's opinion on the future of
java and where You see that coming.
I'm not talking about 115 or even 116 but kind of like where
it goes in the future. Do you think that Microsoft will
keep Java around long-term. Do you think that they'll bring
these stores to Java or do you think they're going to treat
them as separate entities forever?
I went over because that lines up perfectly with my thought so
about keeping Java round. I think it's a race right now.
I think it's a race between Java and Bedrock which I think is C
plus plus on which one can include all the features and run
at the highest performance possible C++ runs right now edit
way better performance, but it can't do the Gently huge worlds
Java can it doesn't have all the features.
Like the left hand isn't fully there for them.
They can't even do shields because this and I think Java as
long as you can keep ahead in the features and keep its
performance increasing its going to stay around but the second
the Bedrock version takes over java and performance and
features. I think you'll see see the main
version of Minecraft switch to the C++ version which I will be
okay with if they keep to the heart of the way the Java works
as its kind of the experimental ground.
It's letting people do mods themselves.
It's letting the community push the game forward because its
face it Mojang really does pay attention to the modded
Community to get their next newest features.
I don't know how many times I saw villager trading and
villager. It's the year leading up to 114.
And then bam. There's 114 heck Tango Tech was
designing new villagers the like months leading up to 114 and
sure enough. It felt like at one point
million was just copying his mind.
So I want to know like just how far our is the community pushing
my yang or are they sneakily smarter than all of us and
playing these things here in Ants but as long as Java can
continue to push forward and they really just need to focus
on their performance. The community will show them
where they need to go creatively they will stick with Java but II
Bedrock overtakes him and features Bedrock will take over
they'll ditch Java which will be a problem for you know C++.
Well, yeah C++ runs on Windows fine, but the in Java was I
don't know this for sure, but I would guess the reason Java was
chosen originally was because it was cross platform and yes to
limit it to Windows as at fault. Yeah, you guys know this but the
audience probably don't I'm a Mac User and then trying to keep
it Windows only concerns me. There's rumors that mine.
Dungeons will be Bedrock powered.
So it will be Windows only it won't be Mac or Linux.
And that that kind of rubs me up the wrong way a little bit.
We'll have to see whether they actually do that or whether they
do make it cross platform. But I think to kind of the
community aspect of Minecraft of including everyone I think is
very important and I think to limit the platforms that
Minecraft can be played on is heading in the wrong direction,
you know in a way Oh, yeah, I don't think that's something
they'll let happen. I think for Bedrock to take over
java. It's got to be able to do Max
it's got to be able to do Linux because there are still people
who play with Linux and dungeons.
It's running like the unreal 4 engine which is a huge gaming
platform. So I'm sure it's going to be
able to do Mac. Even if it's just a port over.
Yeah. Yeah, but I think they're just
slow on announcing it because porting something over to Mac.
Probably the last step for them to do it.
It might be like a month after it's released or something.
But I'm sure it's going to be coming to Mac.
I hope so because I hope there's going to be some multiplayer
involved in dungeons as well because I think our group
playing in dungeons together would be really cool as well.
Yeah, I gotta get my Ninja on. So there's a lot of interesting
things being being set as far as Java and C++ and my neck.
I'm not actually sure all now Mac is programmed and all that
which is weird. I kind of shoot.
No, but Java and C++ are like eagles Java is ones created to
replace see it works slightly differently.
From there are equal in quality, which might be the reason why
they want started making it in Java cause I probably could go
either way for the PC industry. I guess when it comes to bedrock
and a Java version. I remember us having a me and
that's having a conversation about this bike long time ago.
And I remember saying that one thing I think.
It makes Java works. So well, I mean a big big part
of the community is like the red stone or something technical
guys, right? Yep, and Java does sort of
create the real kind of books that aren't books that we like
to use within Redstone take the book powered.
For example, it's it's, you know, it's a bug it's not
supposed to happen, but it's something that happens and now
we're happy to work with we be kinda use But a lot of the Farms
are sort of based on those kind of little glitches and stuff
better or goal is seemed to streamlined to have those kind
of things. So unless they sort of lose
their perfection. I guess it's going to be hard
for them to surpass the Java version of Minecraft also, like
you said modded is such an important part of Minecraft and
a lot of games actually a nice example Skyrim lasts, really
long already, maybe because of their like modded.
Yes. Well, I don't think Minecraft
will or Mojang will step aside from that.
I will be they would really rub against their Community, I
guess. Yeah.
So for that, I think the Java version is at least safe for a
long time. You said that when when Bedrock
Edition is going to get more features than Java they they
might run risk. Yeah.
Yeah, I guess you could be right.
Right. I'm not sure it's really tricky
because they got a stick through to to Java Minecraft.
I guess. That's the Minecraft probably
most people know. I'm like, yeah, and I theory is
that this isn't going to happen for a long time.
I still think the Bedrock version is a ways behind but
when I started playing Bedrock was like three years ago when
1.8 Minecraft for Java just come out.
I remember I had one door. I could have a wooden door and
that was it. I remember looking over in Java
going wait, you can have like six different doors and I
literally bought a $450 PC to build built my PC just so I can
play Java Minecraft and have six stores compared to the one and
now you look at bedrock and is it's almost neck and neck with
the Java Edition, but they're still just especially the not
infinite world to me. That's what's going to hold
Bedrock back is the fact that they can't have the world sizes.
Java has and Java is made to just keep going and going and
going and going. I'm I don't see it happening for
a long long time. But that's one of the big
features Bedrock would have to fix for it to even have the
slightest chance of dethroning. Java.
I think that's kind of be a problem for Mojang this over.
So I'm think they're fully aware of that issue like that broke
and Java aren't the same they're getting closer and closer to
each other and it seems like they're working towards emerging
but I think Mojang knows very well that they can't they come
get rid of one of the two they gotta keep.
Yeah, but you can't merge it and keep both parties happy and both
parties are so big You can lose one.
They yeah, they have they have something to work out, but I'm
not too afraid that they'll mess things up too badly because
still lose such a big player base if they do.
Yeah, because even when I was talking earlier Minecraft was
kind of in the bottom-dwelling popular games list for a while.
It still was a huge game. Like it wasn't like there was
maybe a thousand People playing online at a time.
There were still millions of people playing this game on a
daily basis. That's a really accessible get
accessible game, right? It's quite a cheap game.
It's like what 20 20 dollars or 20?
Euros that that kind of it's fairly cheap.
You don't need a really strong be see-through run it like you
can run this final Micah 10 year old laptop.
Well finding this may be a big word, but you can you can I mean
you can play the game if you want to yeah, you know, it's
it's so accessible which is great for like kids obviously,
but I think also for adults anyone really Yeah, I think I'll
be good for the for the future of Java for now.
Definitely. Yeah.
Yeah, and I think hang on crime
going to jump in. Imma let you finish out your
topic, but I think the Microsoft purchase could only have helped
logging and just by the fact that gave them a bigger was
ladder to stand on because I think Microsoft understands
Mojang's and full control and they're letting mugging have the
Rings. They're just like hey, here's a
bar. Can you hit that bar and
millions? Like well we can do this and
Microsoft just goes here's some money find a way to get there.
Well not to forget that experience and knowledge
Minecraft or yeah Microsoft has an S can share with Mojang like
they could manage Mojang a lot about well the technology,
right? I mean Microsoft still a giant
company and they're going to find ways to make money such as
What Carla's saying the Xbox store where they're charging for
skins and maps and stuff like that to me.
That's all well and good because those are optional things.
If you don't want them, you don't have to buy them and
Minecraft is such a you want it. You can build it game.
So as long as they don't put important things behind pay
walls. I'm okay with stuff like that.
Yeah, really at the end of the day there are company and they
need to make money. And as you say as long as it's
optional that's perfectly fine. And I think Microsoft are smart
enough to know that they need to keep the player base happy and
if that means keeping Java around and that's probably what
they'll do and you know, they might add a few stores to it.
They might add these mashup packs that are optional that
they have in Bedrock and bring those over to Java and do that
kind of thing. But yeah, like you say as long
as As long as they're optional I think that's that's perfectly
fine. And they need to make money on
the two billion per billion dollars.
They spent on on Minecraft. So yeah, they need to recoup
some of that somewhere like you were saying it's it's a very
cheap game to start with, you know, it's 20 pounds 20 dollars
and for what you get for that is amazing, you know, you can see
games that aren't half as you know, the longevity of them
isn't as much as mine craft and their 50 60 dollars.
You know 50 60 pounds and you just get so much for the price.
It's awesome. And when you were saying about
being able to roll it on anything, I have a server my own
personal Minecraft server that I play on with some of my friends
and that's actually hosted on a Raspberry Pi in my room and it
worked perfectly fine. So running on that little
processor and that little amount of ram it is quite astonishing
that the game can run on some Vince oh so underpowered.
I think you'd probably say but yeah, it's an amazing amazing
game. Yeah, it is.
It's I bought this game for 20 $25 three years ago.
I haven't had to put a dime into the game since then and it's
been my daily driver game for 3 years.
Like I think at most I've maybe not played it for a month or two
in three years. So the fact that I had not
having to constantly pay I remember buying NFL Madden every
year and it got to the point where it was just a roster
update and now I'm over here playing Minecraft where I spent
$20 and I'm getting free updates on a yearly basis that just are
constantly expanding the game massively.
Yeah it you can't find that anywhere else in mother's AAA
games. Well not to mention.
They don't really have a steady stream of income.
Well, they're starting to get it now, which is I guess why all
the little transactions get in there but up until now they did
it by people just buying a copy of the game and that's it.
They've been able to update it really a lot.
I mean if I compare this to well other games, the only one I can
think of is Skyrim and for the rest you had things like World
of Warcraft. That lost s long maybe a bit
longer, but they need like a monthly payment, right you get
all the surfaces running and to keep it running and all that.
Yeah, of course off didn't need it.
Well until now and I guess that's another thing the the
little transactions they do in the Bedrock addiction, which is
legally away from me. They obviously there to help
improve all aspects of the rest of the game.
Yes sort of Of a bonus for us that they do it.
Although it's it looks a bit terrifying maybe woman you look
at a new younger kids. Let's say a middle school kids
picked up Minecraft. He wants to play Minecraft with
his friends. So his friends bought Minecraft.
Well now they need a server to play on the server's aren't easy
to set up on your own. So Minecraft gives you the
option for a realm, which is straight up Mojang saying here.
Here's what you need to play. Minecraft just play don't worry
about anything else and stuff. Like that is awesome.
Not to mention loading custom skins on Java addition while
it's not super hard but someone who doesn't know how to work
that system might just go wait. I have to go to some random
third-party website to create my own skin, but I really want a
skin that just looks like this. Well, the Bedrock version has a
skin that looks just like this in a store and I can pay two
dollars or whatever it is. Is for the skin and now I get to
play as my favorite movie character so stuff like that is
really cool to me. yeah, kind of making it more accessible and
making it so new players can jump straight in and get the
skin and get a mod pack or get a mash-up Mac mashup pack like the
new Toy Story for one that they just did and kind of having that
kind of ability without acting to mess around with server files
and you know, all these different skin designers and
things like that for a group like us setting up servers and
doing all Kind of add many stuff in the background, which is a
lot more work than people would imagine I've been doing a lot of
it last few days. And yeah just taking all that
burden away from people and putting it onto Mojang and
saying for this amount of money a month will sort all that for
you. I think has really helped them
to get to the position that they are now as the world's best
selling game for sure. But I think we're going to wrap
it up their Banks. You want to go ahead and leave
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