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The one thing that changed 
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long ago either, we're going to 
talk about a subject today 

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called control and how many many
men, including myself, I'm a 

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fucking pro at control or trying
to control anyway. 

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And there's a concept we're 
going to talk about today that's

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going to help you let go of 
that. 

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Welcome to the Awaken Man 
podcast to join me, Pete Taylor 

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and my Co host Benjamin Owen. 
Welcome to the show, Ben. 

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Good to see you. 
I'm letting go of control, Pete.

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Yeah. 
Used to be me that did the 

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intro. 
Here's the control. 

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Pete's even got the controls of 
pressing the record right. 

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So yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm 
surrendering there, man. 

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely do that. 
This was a concept that was, do 

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you know what? 
Someone tried giving this to me 

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a good few years ago and I 
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I was like, Nah, I'm not, I'm 
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I'm ready to hear that. 
I'm not into that woo woo 

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concept. 
Shit sounds a bit soft, sounds a

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bit weak to me. 
It's well and truly when I was 

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embodying the warrior pretty, 
pretty fucking hard, right? 

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And I'm good at embodying the 
warrior pretty fucking hard. 

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And so I was like, Nah, not for 
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And I was reintroduced to the 
concept not so long ago, and I 

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was just ready. 
I was ready at the time. 

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There was so much internal chaos
for me. 

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I was so fucking tight in my 
shoulders, tight in my jaw, 

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tight in my pelvis, tight 
everywhere. 

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There's so much chaos. 
I was just trying to control 

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everything, including the 
weather, right? 

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Including what people think 
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And in doing so it it caused the
the the challenge of well that 

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didn't go my way and now I'm 
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Yeah, and it's really 
interesting is like when the 

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when the student is ready, the 
teacher will appear, whether the

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student's a book or a teacher. 
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a lot about a lot of the work 
that Byron Katie did does. 

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And it's kind of this like idea 
of, of just stress is a 

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barometer for how far we're 
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And it's like controlling a 
reality is like we've got 3 

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buckets. 
What we have control over, which

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is our attitude, what we've got 
influence over maybe some things

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in our life, but they're more 
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And I think I went through very 
that started that process when I

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was like 30 and I was like, Oh 
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so many things in that. 
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you started press go on the 
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actually pretty good at this. 
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come to Jesus moment when I was 
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I think that was that was, you 
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No one ever recommended this 
book though, you know, it was it

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was actually Byron Katie's book,
which is loving. 

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What is that? 
That was recommended to me. 

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And this is something as you're 
listening, guys, we were talking

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about this because this this is 
this is the first podcast Pete's

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like, have you haven't you read 
that book, Ben? 

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And he was like, the winner, 
winner Pete's read this book. 

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You never forget someone saying,
read this book at the right 

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time. 
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we did the last podcast. 
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not ready. 
You're just not ready to hear 

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that. 
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awakening it is for a lot of 
guys is like, OK, I'm ready to 

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hear this now. 
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in my life and I've told him to 
read a, a different book many, 

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many, many times because he's a 
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The state, the thing that the 
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Anyway, what often happens to 
the guys is something goes, they

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get to this point where they can
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ways of doing things and they 
have to surrender and like, say,

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I've got to do things 
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And I think this is quite 
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we're talking about. 
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go of control as we wade through
the podcast today is since I'm 

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saying like, oh, the way that 
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like Pete said, so much internal
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I'm I'm hurting. 
I'm looking forward to this. 

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Yeah, the, the, we're going to 
talk through 10 steps of letting

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go of control. 
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this in myself. 
I see this in lots of guys. 

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You could be having the best 
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There could be so many things 
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There's new clients coming in. 
You're having amazing sex with 

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your missus. 
You're, you know, you're having,

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you're having fun, you're having
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There's freedom there. 
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things going for you. 
Yet it rains and you didn't 

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expect it to rain or just like a
client makes the decision you 

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didn't expect them to make or 
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this still underlying. 
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to go one way. 
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Now I'm fucking fuming about it.
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weeks because of that need just 
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control and essentially control 
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lives. 
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actually, I I can honestly say, 
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walking back from the gym 
earlier and I was thinking about

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this and I knew we were going to
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And I'm like, fuck, my internal 
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embodying this, not just 
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great, great listen, great book,
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What? 
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But actually practicing 
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feel certain resistance come up 
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where I used to turn controlled 
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that. 
My internal state feels very 

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peaceful, extremely peaceful. 
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life I can probably say that, 
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this has been profound for me 
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So I hope you guys listening 
can, can take some insights from

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this and, and, and actually take
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So 10 steps. 
Step number one is actually just

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recognising the resistance when 
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Just that like the awareness 
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life that triggers you, that 
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off, that gives you anxiety, 
that causes the internal state 

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in your stomach or in your chest
to start just feeling fucking 

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differently. 
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you had an expectation on one 
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didn't? 
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different course. 
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course, it's like, fuck no, fuck
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I want the thing that I wanted. 
I had this expectation, I want 

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this fucking route, and it's 
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This is step number one is to be
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conflict. 
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this comes up is like, I'll 
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emotion and I used to get, I 
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I dive into my story. 
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something in a certain way that 
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be like, I would have this like 
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I'd be playing it over my head 
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myself more pissed off. 
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and this is, it's really 
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I was like, I think what I've 
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back and get curious, like why? 
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this? 
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really getting me to feel quite 
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heart rate goes up, whatever. 
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curious. 
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recognizing a resistance is also
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And and I can actually, you 
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Is that as you've shown up 
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you, you probably get a lot of 
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because you show up confidently 
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think he's a show off. 
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That's probably their own inner 
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off, don't stand out, don't be 
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all those things. 
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that's what goes on for them and
they can't recognise that, but 

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they just project onto you, for 
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Yeah, for sure. 
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saying it like plainly because 
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distance because. 
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have feedback from that from 
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When I first started watching 
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You're so blunt. 
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That's their resistance. 
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recognise it as in a resistance.
They recognise it as judgement 

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of you. 
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really key part to recognise in 
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normally experience it in a 
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So like you're in a resistance 
to show up, show off, be 

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confident, be a bit arrogant, be
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when you look at somebody else 
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kind of make sure you understand
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it doesn't normally come up in a
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It doesn't come up day-to-day. 
It's normally in it in relation.

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That's why coaching is 
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You explore that in in coaching.
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What about that is pissing you 
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I have an example here. 
I was in Dubai probably sick 

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maybe five months ago and my ex 
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bit of a Co parenting holiday. 
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exchanging Leo in a, in a hotel 
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conversation whilst whilst was 
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remember what it's about now, 
but she said something fucking 

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infuriated me and it, and it 
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I just, I, I actually kind of 
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I didn't fight, I didn't fucking
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I, I was like, I kind of froze 
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calming down and just going Pete
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Just calm down. 
I wasn't really practising what 

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we're talking about now. 
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later because this I was in the 
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So she, and she was like, oh, 
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She was like, why are you still 
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didn't know that she pissed me 
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even a thinking about it. 
And there's me sat there for 15 

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minutes being pissed off about 
something that she has no idea 

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about. 
I remember. 

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This now, Yeah. 
Yeah, she's just getting on with

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her life. 
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And but but I can now I can look
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was some real like that was in 
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And I had AI had a choice in 
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Let it let it go and then just 
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or let that internal conflict 
ruminate and you know, for the 

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rest of the day which it did. 
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we had on a scorecard once. 
I don't know if you use it now. 

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It's like I hang on to anger way
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And this is kind of what you'll 
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you it's like, is that in 
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It's like pain is pain is 
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Suffering is optional. 
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and like, you know, he's 
described his moment now with, 

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with his, with his ex partner. 
Like you have, you know, those 

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altercations with clients or 
people in your life and they're 

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painful. 
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That's that's inevitable. 
Suffering is where you hold that

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about now is like the the the 
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committing the to surrender is 
actually saying, oh, do you know

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what? 
I'm not going to carry this for 

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the rest of the day. 
Do you know what? 

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Do you know what? 
There's actually a statement 

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that I come to. 
It's like you do you. 

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I know it sounds really like 
inconsequential and you might 

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have heard it before. 
It's like, yeah, oh man, you do 

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you. 
I'm like good for you, good for 

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you. 
Like you want to do it like 

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that? 
Good for you. 

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Like I'm not going to impose my 
my way of doing things about you

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do you. 
And that actually has helped me 

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a lot with a lot of things like,
yeah, UK, you do you. 

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Yeah, and so, so this is step #2
right? 

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Commit, commit to surrender, 
right lads? 

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Would you mind clicking 
subscribe on whatever platform? 

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Listening on it helps. 
Appreciate you. 

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Back to the episode. 
Yeah, yeah, that's and it says 

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here like, you know, trust that 
life will unfold as it should, 

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even if it does not align with 
your personal preferences. 

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And it's like, that is a big 
lesson is like even if it 

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doesn't align with your personal
preferences, like, Oh yeah, it 

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shouldn't be happening. 
Oh, this shouldn't be happening.

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Like it is happening and this is
what's going to happen. 

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You're like, ah, right. 
It's like, I think when Mike got

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divorced, it's like, I think for
the first six months I was like,

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this shouldn't be happening. 
I was, I mean, we talked about 

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on last podcast like I'm a great
partner, you know, this 

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shouldn't be happening. 
I shouldn't be, she shouldn't be

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divorcing me. 
I'm great. 

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And like, but that was that was 
not aligning my personal 

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preferences at the time. 
But looking back now, is it? 

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It was absolutely the best thing
that could ever have happened to

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get me to where I am today. 
Yeah, they there you go. 

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And and and the same with me, 
you know, I look back at the 

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things that have happened in my 
life, business breakdown, 

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marriage breakdown. 
I'm like, fucking they were, you

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know, they were fucking painful 
and they weren't the route I 

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thought was meant to happen. 
They weren't even my pathway. 

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But now I'm like, fuck, you 
know, I have had so much growth 

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from going through those, those 
events. 

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I've had so much growth and it's
put me onto a better path. 

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And it is, it's, it's trusting 
the life has the path for you as

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long as you're open to it. 
And then you can, you can you 

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keep following it like it has 
the path for you and it's and 

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it's, and that's the thing. 
This is this is the the nuance 

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here is being committed, not 
interested. 

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Oh yeah, do you know what? 
I'm I'm just interested in 

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playing this game of 
surrendering, letting go and not

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being control freak. 
I'm just if you're just 

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interested in it, this fucking 
won't work. 

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Interested is very I'd say it's 
non committal in being 

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interested is short term, right.
Being interested doesn't 

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normally require sacrifice and 
perseverance and consistency, 

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whereas commitment absolutely 
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You commit to doing something, 
you become a very powerful man, 

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a man that that does what he 
says he's going to do. 

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He commits to something. 
You know that. 

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And that that that will 
absolutely require sacrifice and

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consistency in this. 
There's a real really like left 

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field example of this right when
I used to do presenting. 

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So I've I've been presenting to 
people since I was like 23 years

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old. 
I was never a good presenter 

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when I first started a really, 
really nervous. 

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I still am nervous when I 
present to big groups get caught

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in mouth. 
So what I used to do is I used 

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to control everything with the 
PowerPoint. 

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I used to have all my 
information on the PowerPoint 

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and then after about say 5-6 
years of doing like I'd spend a 

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fucking day perfecting this pod,
this PowerPoint, like, Oh my 

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God. 
Like if I consulted for a day in

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a, in a business, I'd spend 2 
days prepping. 

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So I, I'd like, I was like, 
yeah, I've got this fee for a 

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day. 
I think it's like a grand. 

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I was like, oh, you know, at the
time that was a lot for me. 

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And I was like, Bennett, it's a 
three day fee. 

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And I was like, anyway, and I'd 
obsess about controlling what 

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was in the PowerPoint. 
And then what I would then do is

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I'd go into these businesses and
I would push in all the things 

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that I wanted to tell them. 
And I thought it was good at the

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time people got, you know, they,
they found it helpful or maybe a

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little bit information high, you
know, heavy, they got value, but

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they didn't do anything 
afterwards. 

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And, and what I did, especially 
this is like, but especially 

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when I turned 30, went through 
this whole experience is like I 

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would on the back of a, you 
know, piece of paper, write 4 

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things that I wanted to cover 
and then allow the material in 

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the room to, to create the 
session. 

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And I remember I was working 
with a caravan park team and I, 

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and I did this session with him 
and I went in and the power in 

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the session was night and day. 
And there's something that it 

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says here is like, like trust 
that life will unfold as it 

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should. 
And Michael Neal, one of the 

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most famous coaches, says this. 
He says that what you've got to 

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learn to trust is the right 
information will show up at the 

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right time because it always 
does and it always has. 

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And I'm like, holy fuck, it 
really does. 

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It really, really, really does. 
And I didn't realize that, you 

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know why? 
Because I put so much control 

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into it, didn't allow it to come
up. 

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And it was really that was when 
I became more masterful as a 

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coach because I just, I trusted 
that all the material that had 

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to come up in the session did. 
And like, you know, Pete can say

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you talk about the way command 
retreat is that a lot of the the

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material that you dealt with was
not a script. 

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It wasn't a PowerPoint. 
It was wasn't controlled. 

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It was like what came up in the 
thing and the guys were walking 

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away from that retreat going. 
This was mind blowing. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
It was like, yeah, the the last 

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retreat we did, I fucking lost 
the schedule. 

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I don't, I've handwritten it and
it came out my pocket when I 

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went out for to grab a coffee. 
I think we talked a lot, yeah. 

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Lost the fucking schedule but 
and, and, but this was a this 

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was this is a prime opportunity 
of where I, and this leads us on

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to step #3 I had to practice 
acceptance the the schedule. 

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I dropped out my pocket for the 
whole fucking two days and I 

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just go, well, it's, it's done 
now just accept that that's 

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done. 
I can't remember what's on it 

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and actually just treat this as 
like this is this is a gift now 

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go with the flow and and that's 
what I did And and the weekend 

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couldn't have gone any better. 
That retreat couldn't have gone 

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any better because it was just 
life's going to give me the 

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answers and I've got a trust in 
myself that I have the answers 

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and absolutely when. 
Yeah, so on the, the, the 1st, 

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the 1st away command retreat in 
Crete, I, I went through Tel 

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Aviv two weeks before it became 
a war zone. 

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Anyway, so I flew back from 
Awakenman to Dubai via Tel Aviv 

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and I, I missed the flight 
because I did not because my own

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fault is just there was no time 
to connect between one of the 

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two. 
It was just a really poor thingy

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flight. 
Anyway, got to Tel Aviv, found 

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out that I wouldn't be able to 
go to the flight to Dubai until 

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the following day about 3:00. 
This was like one in the morning

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and I was like, right, OK, I'll 
go and get a taxi. 

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When felt felt a bit uneasy 
because I didn't know how 

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dangerous Tel Aviv was. 
What a taxi rank? 

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Can I get a local hotel? 
Yeah, I'll take you to. 

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Anyway, speaking to this guy and
the really lovely guy father 

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talking about, you know, being a
father really got on well with 

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him and and I I got his card. 
I think I got his card because I

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just out of interest, got his 
card and did I get his card? 

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No, I didn't get his card. 
This is what makes it even more 

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amazing. 
Got to the hotel, I got out, got

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my just literally got out. 
As I got out, he drove off. 

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So in the in my bag had had 
three grams plus worth of camera

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equipment, had all my clothes, 
my running clothes, everything, 

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my nice clothes, probably about 
5 grams worth of stuff had just 

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driven off. 
I had like literally 22 seconds,

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maybe 10 seconds. 
I was like, holy shit, my, my 

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passport, everything. 
And I was like, Oh my God, 

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because he thought I didn't have
any except for me. 

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He didn't see me sling it in the
car. 

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He drove off onto the freeway, 
which is literally just next to 

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the thing he'd gone. 
And I was like, right then here 

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it is. 
Here's your moment. 

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Anyway, I walked up the stairs, 
told the the people in the 

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hotel, I had my phone on me and 
they said, yeah, I got, you 

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know, just I felt felt really 
sorry for myself. 

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Anyway, they gave me a got me a 
room. 

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The phone goes in the middle of 
the night, like 3:00 in the 

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morning. 
This crazy Tel Aviv Israeli and 

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taxi driver going, hey, buddy, 
I've got your bags. 

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I'm in, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in. 
I can't remember like a part of 

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Israel and he's like an hour, 
I'm an hour away, but I'm at 

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home. 
And I was like, dude, if you 

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bring them back, I will give you
an exorbitant amount of money. 

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Just bring them back. 
And he's like, I'll be there, 

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give me an hour. 
This guy brings me back this. 

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And I honestly, he found the 
number of the hotel, rang the 

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hotel, hotel rings my room. 
I'd fully let go of any ever 

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seen my bags ever again. 
And he bought them back and I 

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gave him £100. 
I was so grateful. 

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But do you know what I was 
really proud of that moment you 

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talked about? 
I didn't. 

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I just fully let go of ever, 
ever seen any of that kid again.

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I was like, yeah, it's gone. 
I was gone. 

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I accept it. 
Yeah, that was the moment, The 

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moment. 
So I like let go of. 

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I really accepted the situation 
and I think this is what guys do

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is that they try and fight 
against that emotionally. 

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I'm like, Oh my God, this 
shouldn't be happening. 

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I'm like, yeah, I'm like, they 
get that's why they die. 

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They get so angry and frustrated
and, and they're actually like, 

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yeah, this is it. 
This is this is what's going on.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I mean, another another example 

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here is actually come on home on
the flight from Santorini from 

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your wedding back to England who
are flying EasyJet. 

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And I haven't flown EasyJet in 
years because I'm now a snob and

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a. 
Plain Diva. 

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I am now a plain diva and 
fucking there was just so many 

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people. 
So and I and I booked priority 

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boarding. 
But apparently if you, if you 

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buy any, any form of luggage on 
EasyJet, you get priority 

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boarding. 
So everyone had fucking priority

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boarding and, and I'd with my 
son who's, you know, he's three,

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he wants to get on the plane. 
Normally they let me on the 

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plane early because I have a 
three-year old. 

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Nope. 
And that I it was, I know, I 

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know this is a minor, but 
they're like it. 

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It got like I got agitated. 
I could feel it internally. 

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I was like, fucking I'm pissed 
off. 

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Why? 
You know, this is not like 

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Emirates third world problems in
but I was I was agitated. 

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But but it's like, is this 
anything that comes up? 

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And I was like, Pete, just 
fucking accept it, mate, Accept 

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it. 
This is not something to get 

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agitated over. 
Just accept the situation. 

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As soon as I accepted it, I was 
like, fair enough, right, move 

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on. 
Well, let me know what's. 

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Going on, have you seen that 
thing? 

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He's like, there's a comedian 
that talks about it's like you 

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are like a couple of miles or a 
mile up in a in a thing like, 

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and he talks about the the 
miracle of flying. 

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He goes, you've got no right to 
be pissed off about like 

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anything like your dinner not 
being shown up on time or the 

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the food being called like, 
dude, you're experiencing a 

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miracle. 
And I was like, that's, that's 

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good. 
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 

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But it's just and it you know, 
it's the same. 

443
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,800
You're driving in the car, 
someone fucking pisses you off 

444
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,840
and then you get agitated and 
you and you shout and you swear 

445
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,320
you fucking cut me up and and it
and it and it pisses the shit 

446
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,720
out of you. 
It's the same. 

447
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,320
It's like, dude, hey, I used to 
be this man. 

448
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,480
I'm not, not anymore. 
But it's like we're driving a 

449
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,640
driving a car that's like a 
that's fucking, it's a 

450
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,600
privilege. 
But if you're allowing other 

451
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,280
people's reactions to them 
damaged and then and then hit 

452
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,680
you and it pisses you off for 
the whole of your car journey or

453
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,120
pisses you off for the rest of 
the day, that's on you. 

454
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,040
And it's only and it's only you 
that fucking feels all that 

455
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,200
distraught. 
Just accept it and let it go. 

456
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,440
Yeah, there's there's a part of 
this like high point where I'm 

457
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:16,080
like letting go of control. 
So guy in in awake man Danny and

458
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:21,120
like when I first met Danny, he,
he would talk about how he, he 

459
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:25,080
accepted guidance from spirit. 
And I like for me, that was so 

460
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,240
far removed from who I was as a 
person. 

461
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,840
Like me and Pete talked about 
this idea of faith and like 

462
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,360
something I want to learn more 
about and I have a coaching 

463
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:37,120
around it. 
And it's like allowing life to 

464
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:42,040
lead you and, and a a force 
greater than the ego to lead and

465
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,000
that, and that's what you know, 
and in tools work, they call it 

466
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,920
the ego. 
Like you are ego driven. 

467
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:49,800
It's like the you use the power 
of the will. 

468
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,040
And like what that means is that
you will things into existence 

469
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,560
and your ego is like, and it's 
actually Phil. 

470
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,040
So let's talk about it's trust 
in faith. 

471
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,640
So here it's saying allow your 
life to lead you rather than you

472
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,240
trying to dictate it's course. 
But actually what I know and 

473
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,120
understand that ours is allowing
faith to dictate as well as like

474
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:18,280
trusting a natural wisdom, 
intuitive inner wisdom and is on

475
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,360
the next point here it says 
like. 

476
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,520
Follow step #5. 
Yeah, follow intuitive guidance 

477
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,360
and it's weird and and I and I 
need to stop staying that as 

478
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,800
well. 
Is that that there is divine 

479
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,080
timing And, and that's what it's
like a certain person, certain 

480
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,720
books, certain time, and it's 
there's divine timing to certain

481
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,960
things just land in your lap and
you're like, Oh my God, like 

482
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,680
that's, that's unreal. 
Guys, I've got a fucking say. 

483
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:55,760
Like when you become open to 
this, open to letting go, open 

484
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,640
to what banners just said there 
divine timing or synchronicity 

485
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,960
or just like, fuck, I've I've 
got I've got to say so much 

486
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,120
lands on your lap because I 
think you just you just become 

487
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,920
open to it. 
You there's an invitation now 

488
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,720
out and so much more lands on 
your lap. 

489
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,000
So many more opportunities, so 
many more insights. 

490
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,120
You know, fucking hell, there's,
there is a path that if I wasn't

491
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:26,080
open to this because I was 
trying to control the other path

492
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:31,120
and control my destiny because I
had preference, if I was in that

493
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:34,000
mindset, I would not have seen 
that fucking out the path which 

494
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:39,120
just come up which is, which is 
better, right? 

495
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:45,160
So absolutely this, this step 
here on #5 follow your intuitive

496
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,320
guidance. 
Yeah. 

497
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,400
And I think, I think that's 
when, you know, even when I've 

498
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,720
been in relationships and recent
relationships internally, I 

499
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,160
like, I'm like, yeah, listen to 
you gut mate. 

500
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,280
And it's hard. 
But always that that that 

501
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,040
intuitive guidance has always 
been very, very right. 

502
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,400
Yeah. 
And I think what men have 

503
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,400
instinctively, what's not 
probably been conditioned out of

504
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,640
is not trusting their gut. 
So they trust their mind, not 

505
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,960
their body. 
And also because of conditioning

506
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,600
around them, it's like, it's 
like, no, everything in my body 

507
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,960
is telling me not to do this. 
And like I even I, I coached a 

508
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:34,520
guy and he took a job and as 
soon as he took the job, he was 

509
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,320
ill. 
He's like, dude, I never get 

510
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,000
ill. 
And since I've been with this 

511
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,800
company, I've just been getting 
I'll all the time. 

512
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,200
And I was like, dude, what's 
going on? 

513
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,840
He goes like everything is just,
we're just misaligned. 

514
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,040
It's like a misalignment. 
And I was like, what is what? 

515
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,240
What's your intuition telling, 
what you get telling? 

516
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,960
He was like, I'm not like this 
is everything I ever wanted, but

517
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,240
I don't it just like my body's 
telling me that I'm not meant to

518
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,440
be here anyway. 
Left the company, started his 

519
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,960
own company absolutely fine. 
And I think this is something 

520
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,440
that we think is like down to, 
oh, it's just because I've run 

521
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,000
down, it's the weather. 
It's I haven't got the right 

522
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,280
diet, but there's, there's so 
many instances where I can 

523
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,720
attest even to my own, is your 
body's telling you shit and you 

524
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,400
just don't listen. 
And the intuitive guidance, 

525
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,800
sometimes it's like you'll just 
run down, I'll push. 

526
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,880
It feels like you're pushing 
water uphill and it's listening 

527
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,280
to that. 
Yeah. 

528
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,440
This is the next point here is 
this is step number six, which 

529
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:46,840
is embracing opportunities, and 
there there is absolutely the 

530
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,120
power of no ABS of fucking 
lutely like being able to say 

531
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:57,320
no, No, there's also the power 
of saying yes and and and 

532
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,360
embracing opportunities. 
I've had recent opportunities 

533
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,320
that have come into my world 
that a year ago I'd fucking had 

534
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,200
never said yes to because I'm 
like no way too woo, way too 

535
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,280
spiritual way. 
That is not, that's Nas, not but

536
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,400
that, but just being just 
surrendering to what's coming 

537
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,200
into my life and saying yes to 
different opportunities has 

538
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,040
absolutely given me so much more
personal growth than I could 

539
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,560
have ever imagined. 
And that is absolutely by me 

540
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:33,240
saying yes to opportunities. 
The and it's like the easy one, 

541
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,320
the gym, right? 
You never regret saying yes to 

542
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,440
the gym. 
Ever. 

543
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,640
Ever. 
Ever. 

544
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,360
You never regret fucking saying 
yes to it. 

545
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,760
There's so many times when I 
fuck me, I can't be arsed. 

546
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,280
I can't like should I get put my
clothes on and go to the gym? 

547
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,480
Can't be asked. 
Every time I say yes to that and

548
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,240
go to the gym, I always come out
feeling feeling better. 

549
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,880
And it's similar to 
opportunities that are being 

550
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,600
presented to you, life's 
opportunities that are being 

551
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,920
presented to you. 
Some of them might make you feel

552
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,400
uncomfortable. 
I think, I think that your your 

553
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,440
message recently has been in a 
creating an illogical life. 

554
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,400
And like what's probably maybe 
coming up for me, mate, is that 

555
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,680
you're like, you've made some 
illogical decisions like like 

556
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,360
peep in the past probably would 
be like, that's not a logical 

557
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,440
decision to do that. 
And you've trusted your 

558
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,040
intuition, you know, do these 
things like doing doing the 

559
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,200
things that you've done has 
helped you make massive shifts. 

560
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,200
It was same for me, like go into
Ibiza. 

561
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,880
So I went to Ibiza for my 
second, second psilocybin 

562
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,400
retreat and it didn't make sense
at that time to go. 

563
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,840
Like it didn't make sense 
because we had so much going on.

564
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,560
We'd come out to the UK, the 
house was wrecked. 

565
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,160
All this sort of stuff didn't 
make sense for me to go. 

566
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,920
I just knew it, although it 
wasn't logical for and anyway, 

567
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,360
like when and did the 
experience, I, I had back pain 

568
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:05,000
at the time and my back pain was
like an 8 out of 10. 

569
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,920
It was like really inhibitive. 
It was like I still trained and 

570
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,840
like just, you know, carried on,
but I wasn't listening to my 

571
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,480
body. 
You know, ironically, I was 

572
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,480
talking about that before. 
I wasn't listening to my body 

573
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,600
and, you know, hadn't really. 
And I think that's what I had in

574
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,440
the experience was like, listen,
man, start listening to your 

575
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,680
body. 
And I just trusted my gut that I

576
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,440
had to go. 
And anyway, I had the experience

577
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,240
the following day I woke up and 
my back pain was like 0, maybe 

578
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,840
one. 
I could feel like maybe it was 

579
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,720
just like AI have spent probably
the thick end of two and a half 

580
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,240
34 grand trying to solve this 
problem. 

581
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,800
Maybe more like in that in the 
2-3 months leading up to that 

582
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,400
thing. 
And I had this experience, which

583
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,560
I it was like it made perfect 
sense. 

584
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,320
I just purged all the emotions. 
They all they all left my body. 

585
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,600
And I am a scientist. 
I've had lots of physiotherapy, 

586
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,640
chiropractor, all those 
treatments, but it was actually 

587
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,520
a psychotherapist that said to 
me, by the way, you've got loads

588
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,760
of emotions sudden you get, and 
then I, I processed them in that

589
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,440
experience and, and it was a new
opportunity and then it was like

590
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,600
it was gone. 
It was really, really strange. 

591
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,120
So I think what you know, what 
you do actually do need to 

592
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,280
embrace some illogical 
decisions. 

593
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,040
Yeah, fucking absolutely. 
I like. 

594
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,360
That. 
It is my thing right now. 

595
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,920
It is leading in a logical life 
and how to lead in a logical 

596
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,520
life. 
And to lead in a logical life, 

597
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,080
you've got to make a logical 
decisions type of decision that 

598
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,239
you a couple of years ago or you
even now would go fuck that, 

599
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,040
that's not logical. 
Yeah, Pete's trying to make me 

600
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,280
buy a Jeep Wrangler and that's 
an illogical decision. 

601
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,679
He's he's had like, yeah, he's 
like, and it is, I'm I will buy 

602
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:58,680
one. 
And it's like, it's happening. 

603
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,520
It's it's done. 
It's just like, it's, it's an 

604
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,720
illogical decision. 
But I just know my gut's telling

605
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:08,040
me I should buy the Jeep. 
What's the story you're telling 

606
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,520
yourself about this Jeep? 
What's what's the story that? 

607
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,600
I think I've just spent too much
on personal development in all 

608
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,080
honesty. 
I, I, I think I've just 

609
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,840
invested. 
I actually joked the other day I

610
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,320
was like, actually I hanged out.
I worked all out how much I 

611
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,680
spent on coaching and and 
personal development 

612
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,280
psychotherapy and I was like, I 
could have had like a Bugatti on

613
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,480
on like on the monthly whatever.
I'm like, I'm like, oh, but it's

614
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,840
just a value thing as I love, I 
love working with with coaching 

615
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,480
and mentors and stuff like that.
So yeah, it's interesting. 

616
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,640
OK, so cultivate presence, 
patience, sorry, is the next 

617
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,520
step. 
Patience. 

618
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,520
I'm presence. 
And and that this is the the 

619
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,600
thing I think that I noticed. 
It's a understanding that 

620
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,120
surrendering is a gradual 
process. 

621
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,800
And I, I, when I was first like 
the way that I was brought to 

622
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,480
this was, you know, you don't 
need to pay attention to your 

623
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,280
thoughts or just thoughts. 
That was the, the, the 

624
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,920
statement, you know, So when we,
when we detach from our 

625
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,680
thoughts, we then become free. 
And then I remember first time 

626
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,040
hearing that thinking this is 
bollocks. 

627
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:19,800
How, how, how does that work? 
It took me 5 years to fully, I 

628
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,960
really get that. 
And like now I'm seven years 

629
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,400
post learning that I do, I can 
see that it's a gradual process.

630
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,440
It took me 5 years to fully 
understand that. 

631
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,000
And the first like I remember I 
paid the coach I was working 

632
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000
with, I paid him a lot of money 
and I was like, what? 

633
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,920
I've paid him all this money and
he's told me not to trust my 

634
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,360
thoughts. 
Like fuck you man. 

635
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,680
This is like that was like a 
real realization for me. 

636
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,560
But then it as the time has gone
on, I'm like, Oh my God, that 

637
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,480
was so profound. 
And it's, it's, it's giving me 

638
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,440
value even now. 
And this is just like a side 

639
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,680
note about having a coach or a 
mentor. 

640
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,240
Is it sometimes they teach you 
something in the moment. 

641
00:36:58,240 --> 00:36:59,960
Like Pete said before, you're 
not ready to hear. 

642
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,600
I wasn't, it was, I was 
obviously ready to hear that at 

643
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,440
that point, but I wasn't ready 
to embody it as Pete talked 

644
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,520
about, didn't embody it. 
I just, I was just, I wrestled 

645
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,480
with that for a long time in my 
mind. 

646
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,240
And sometimes in coaching, I 
I've given clients these things 

647
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:21,360
and they, they haven't got them 
in the moment, but it's been 

648
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,160
over time they've gone, oh, by 
the way, what you said about 

649
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,920
such and such, that was so 
profound. 

650
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,800
It helped me so much through XY 
or Z. 

651
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:34,040
Yeah, be, yeah, absolutely be be
patient with this. 

652
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,560
And my I tell you what, guys, my
experience with this is that if 

653
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,080
you embody it, you'll see the 
results fucking today. 

654
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,800
Like you will see results from 
this internally very, very 

655
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,880
quickly. 
And the client, some of the 

656
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,360
clients that I've seen, this is 
an issue in their lives and 

657
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,680
we've talked about this, they 
too have seen how quickly and 

658
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:03,600
effective embodying this can be.
But still, it, you have to 

659
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,880
practice patience with this. 
This is a this is a continuous 

660
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,400
pursuit and a continuous 
practice. 

661
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,920
Don't think that once you've 
done that for a couple of weeks,

662
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,600
you, you've completed the 
matrix. 

663
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,200
No, this is this is, this is 
lifelong. 

664
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,840
Just what Ben said earlier. 
I just want to touch on this 

665
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,760
because this comes up a lot with
and I see it a lot in in in 

666
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,360
media is just detach from the 
outcome. 

667
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,760
Detach from any outcomes. 
Fuck your feelings, fuck your 

668
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,520
emotions. 
Feelings aren't facts and so 

669
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,720
forth. 
Just detach. 

670
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,160
It's, it's fucking easier said 
than done. 

671
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:44,600
What I have seen as a like a, 
it's like a two-part. 

672
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,400
When I've started to let go of 
all the control in my life and 

673
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,760
surrender to that part of my 
life, detachment has come way 

674
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,800
easier because I'm not trying 
to, because I'm not trying to 

675
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,880
control the things that I want. 
I'm way less attached to the 

676
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,080
outcomes because I'm because I'm
done with the step #1 which is 

677
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,240
actually just acceptance and 
letting go. 

678
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,360
Yeah, I think the distinction 
there was like trying to control

679
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,920
versus intentional behaviour. 
I think there's a there's a 

680
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,440
difference as well. 
I think is that. 

681
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,120
But I all fucking means yeah, 
yeah, we're we're not saying 

682
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,440
don't don't gun after your goals
and and don't fucking go. 

683
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,120
That's the direction I want to 
go in. 

684
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:32,200
No I won't 100% not like, don't 
have absolute intention of This 

685
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,640
is the man that I want to 
create. 

686
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,600
This is the life that I want to 
create. 

687
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,680
This is my big, illogical, 
seemingly impossible goals and 

688
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,120
ambitions. 
I want fucking right. 

689
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:49,440
Yeah, I think even like in your 
relationship is that what a lot 

690
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,920
of guys from a place of control 
tried to do is fix their 

691
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,680
partner. 
So like your partner says, she's

692
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,680
struggling with something and 
the way that you, the only way 

693
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,720
you know to deal with it is to 
fix it. 

694
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,600
And that is you controlling the 
situation as much as possible, 

695
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,600
which gives you safety. 
Whereas actually we've talked 

696
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,840
about in this an alien podcast 
and we can revisit this is 

697
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,800
actually in those moments you 
actually do need to surrender 

698
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,480
and like not try to fix and 
trust that she will solve that 

699
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,200
herself. 
And like, that was something I 

700
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,720
was speaking to a close friend 
about is that his wife called 

701
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:29,840
him a fixer. 
He said, I, I never tell such 

702
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,320
and such about more problems 
because he just tries to fix me.

703
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,640
And I'm like, oh, that's him 
just just trying to seek some, 

704
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,600
some level of control because 
it's an emotional issue. 

705
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,600
And she's like, Oh yeah, that's 
really profound. 

706
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,280
And there's actually a book that
we recommend more, but we, we 

707
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,080
can talk about it at a time. 
But it's like the way that 

708
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,320
you'll sometimes see your, you 
trying to control is trying to 

709
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,760
fix everything. 
Logic. 

710
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,960
Logic like prior logic to 
everything. 

711
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,280
And it's not always the case. 
Yeah, and, and for and for us 

712
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:04,920
guys, this is fucking difficult 
because biologically we've grown

713
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:10,200
up as builders, creators. 
We, our minds work in systems 

714
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,520
and processes and operations. 
And that's how our minds work. 

715
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,200
We like, we don't work 
emotionally, so we work, we work

716
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,240
logically. 
So always our our media is how 

717
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:23,440
can I fix this? 
How can I systemize this? 

718
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,160
How can I put a solution to 
this? 

719
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,840
Because that's how that's how 
our minds are made-up. 

720
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,880
Yeah, there's actually a 
statement by Bernie Brown. 

721
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,680
It's not gender specific. 
It's like we originally termed 

722
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,000
as thinking beings that 
occasionally feel, and it's 

723
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000
actually the opposite. 
We're feeling beings that 

724
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,560
occasionally think it's just 
like it. 

725
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,360
We've we've reversed it as we've
come into the digital and the 

726
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,360
technological age, it's like we 
actually we relied way more on 

727
00:41:51,360 --> 00:42:00,920
how we felt, but like, you know,
way more we got here maintain 

728
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,480
daily practices. 
And this is something I think 

729
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:11,120
was missing for me was a 
practice to surrender. 

730
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,440
I didn't know how to do that. 
And like, I remember my first 

731
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,600
therapy session with Tim. 
And then have you had the same 

732
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,320
experience, Pete? 
And he was like, we had a chit 

733
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,720
chat for like 20 minutes. 
And then we were like, all 

734
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:24,480
right, I want you to lie on the 
floor. 

735
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,400
Then I want you to do these 
exercises where you move your 

736
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,200
hips in like a kind of erotic 
way, like a tilt and a breath. 

737
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,800
And I was like, well, what am I 
doing? 

738
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,880
And I was like, OK, well, you're
going to try and invoke a SOB. 

739
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,080
And then and then what was 
happening was he was trying to 

740
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,560
help me get to the point where I
could just surrender and just 

741
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:48,560
like literally let it out and 
let, let go of let it was just 

742
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,440
letting go. 
That was the practice that, you 

743
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,440
know, let go and letting go is 
going to take you into a reflex,

744
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,880
which is a is a SOB and that is 
you letting go. 

745
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,400
And I, and I realized that I'd 
never let go, never really 

746
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,640
sobbed in my life really, you 
know, go back. 

747
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,120
And that was a practice. 
And I was doing this practice, I

748
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,080
had a couple of goes at it and 
every time I would have a 

749
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,160
certain like letting go if it's 
got close to the point where I 

750
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,200
might cry or sob or let go, I 
would there would be like a 

751
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,720
thought that was shut it down. 
Yeah, Control. 

752
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,560
Control. 
Yeah, exactly. 

753
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,160
Yeah. 
Control. 

754
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,680
I tried to control myself, 
control my emotions. 

755
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,240
And then the one day I finally 
got to that point where I just 

756
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:30,640
like, I'm just, I just, I'm just
so fucking fed up of trying to 

757
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,000
control. 
And then we, I get to feel it 

758
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,160
was a weird sensation. 
I was sat in this chair. 

759
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,280
He said, let's, let's do some 
body work on that. 

760
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,080
And I did this like, you know, 
the forward band and we did the 

761
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,960
back arch and I led on the floor
and I just, Oh my God, all just 

762
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,360
this letting go, crying on the 
floor in front of me there. 

763
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,040
And it was just like, it wasn't 
embarrassing, it wasn't 

764
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,120
shameful. 
It was just like really letting 

765
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,920
go. 
But that was the, the practice 

766
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,240
and like, you know, both Pete 
and I, we, we were doing not 

767
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:05,440
together. 
Sounds like we're doing couples 

768
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,920
therapy, bro. 
It's like we had a practice, 

769
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,200
like I had a therapy session 
every week and that was my 

770
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,320
daily, weekly practice to do 
that breath, that one thing. 

771
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,640
And I got to that point. 
And now when I go and do breath 

772
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,640
work, you know, Pete and I came 
to, went to Dubai and then we 

773
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,040
went to a breath work session. 
I've been going to that every 

774
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,560
week on a Friday. 
I'm like, Jesus, I let go in 

775
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,760
that session. 
I'm like all sorts of crazy shit

776
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,960
comes up. 
It's amazing. 

777
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,880
It's like I, I walk out that 
session, I'm like, feel so clear

778
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,600
on what I need to do, you know, 
So I think that this is a really

779
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,240
important point is that you've 
got to have a practice of it, 

780
00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:51,080
whether it's weekly, daily, you 
know, mine was like my first 

781
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,840
experience of that practice was 
in on on a retreat. 

782
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,960
It was, it was a week of doing 
this stuff, but it was very, 

783
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,680
very, very large amount very 
quickly. 

784
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:06,800
Yeah, and other other practices 
here is meditation, is yoga, is 

785
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,200
breath work. 
Ice bath. 

786
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:14,560
It yeah, it is it the the point 
of or yeah, the first point of 

787
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,520
the practice is for you is just 
to get present because the more 

788
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,960
present you are with what's 
going on, with how you're 

789
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,640
thinking, feeling, acting. 
When resistance comes up, step 

790
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:31,640
number one, you can spot it. 
If you're not present with how 

791
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,240
you're feeling, acting, doing, 
if you, you won't fucking spot 

792
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:37,280
it. 
It'll just come up. 

793
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,520
You'll just, you go into the 
existing reactive state of how 

794
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,560
you, how we, you've always acted
and then continue pissed off. 

795
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,840
So it's, it is fucking important
to be to practice your, your 

796
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,440
regulation here, your nervous 
system regulation, your 

797
00:45:54,440 --> 00:46:00,680
mindfulness, like I like I, I 
recently got into yoga and I 

798
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,600
fucking I love it. 
Like I, I, I said to you, I love

799
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,840
the pallari of going having a 
fight in jiu jitsu and then 

800
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,880
doing yoga in the evening. 
It's just, but it's so you just 

801
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,680
have to be so present. 
It's difficult to be thinking 

802
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,920
about other things and it's it's
it's an amazing practice. 

803
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:21,360
You know, something I was 
thinking about a couple of 

804
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:26,000
nights ago, I watched a film and
it's called, I recommend it, 

805
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,640
guys. 
It's actually, it's about a 

806
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,400
father and how he looks after 
his son and teach and how he's 

807
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,800
teaching his son to be a man. 
It's just deep. 

808
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,960
It's deep film. 
It's called The Road I and 

809
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,680
towards the end of the film 
fucking cried because just there

810
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,120
was this, there was this scene 
and I'm not. 

811
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:52,360
And because I have a son and I 
could just fucking how I just 

812
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,000
felt the emotion for what I 
could feel it now I'm like, Oh 

813
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,720
my God, it was so painful and I 
had fucking tears coming down my

814
00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:01,840
face. 
And it was actually a moment for

815
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,680
me when I thought, fuck, do you 
know what? 

816
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,560
This is actually an example of 
actually how far I've come with 

817
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,720
this, because so many other 
films in the past where I felt 

818
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:17,240
like teary emotions and I've 
controlled it. 

819
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,280
No, do not let the tears out, no
control. 

820
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,520
Don't fucking let that out, you 
fucking little wet wipe. 

821
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,560
That's what'll go from my head. 
Don't fucking let it this you 

822
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,160
misses or there's a woman that 
next year. 

823
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:34,560
Don't let don't let a tear out. 
But that seems micro. 

824
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,400
But actually that practice over 
time with me controlling my 

825
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,880
actual emotions there and just 
like feeling emotive because 

826
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,080
something fucking sad is 
happening on a film, which is 

827
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,640
very it's natural me controlling
that actually LED later down the

828
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,200
line to like people going, do 
you actually have any emotions, 

829
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,800
Pete? 
Do you, do you, do you, do you 

830
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,720
feel? 
Do you actually feel? 

831
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,480
And that and that I'm not saying
that was the only thing that led

832
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,840
to those sorts of comments, but 
I just picked up on it the other

833
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,600
night and I'm like, I, I know 
there are so many other guys 

834
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,000
that their women say to them, do
you actually have any feelings? 

835
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,080
Oh, I've I've had so many women 
say that to. 

836
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:17,480
Me like it is, but it is nice. 
It's these I now I'm getting 

837
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,640
fucking aware to this. 
It is these micro moments where 

838
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,200
we actually control those 
emotions and go Nah, I ain't 

839
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,800
going to I ain't going to yeah, 
cry the film or or or or 

840
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,440
whatever. 
I'm not going to feel that. 

841
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,960
I'm going to control that and 
keep it in. 

842
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,280
Yeah, because it's not that. 
It's not that you don't feel 

843
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,680
them, You just don't want to 
show them. 

844
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,320
Yeah, the next, the next one's 
observed without judgement. 

845
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,160
And I think that's like what, 
you know, we kind of pertinent 

846
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,240
to what we're talking about 
there. 

847
00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:50,320
It's like notice life events and
your reactions about judgement 

848
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,680
and it's allowing yourself to 
feel. 

849
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,320
There's actually a really good 
book called Permission to Feel. 

850
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,240
It's actually really good. 
It's it's very, it's very much 

851
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:03,640
about what we've just been 
talking about. 

852
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,840
It's really, really great and is
permission to feel. 

853
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,200
I can't remember the author and 
it's a really, really 

854
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,800
interesting emotional 
intelligence book. 

855
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,480
Definitely recommend it. 
And it's it's it's not judging 

856
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,640
how you feel. 
It's being curious about it. 

857
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,200
It's like, Oh my gosh, I'm I'm I
cry at pride and they anything 

858
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,160
not pride, not not gay pride. 
Maybe it's the the end of 

859
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:32,640
homosexual coming out, but like 
pride is if there's pride pride 

860
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,800
moments in a film. 
I said this to Mark Gernachli 

861
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:40,240
and I said to him, like, dude, I
get really teary around pride. 

862
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:44,320
Like I literally that will be me
sobbing really upset if there's 

863
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,840
pride and Poppy's the same 
actually. 

864
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,280
Well, it's funny. 
We're both watching a film in 

865
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,720
the corner of our eye. 
I'm like, I know you're crying. 

866
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,200
I'll say so I know you're 
crying. 

867
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,080
But pride for me was like, and 
and I found out why. 

868
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,680
It's because I, I just wanted 
pride for my dad so much. 

869
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,080
And actually I was reading 
something, it was actually a 

870
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,600
marketing book the other day and
it's, it was actually really 

871
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:11,360
deep and it's Travis's book. 
Make him beg to buy from you. 

872
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:16,120
And it he was talking about this
idea as like all a guy ever 

873
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,880
wants to hear from his dad is 
I'm proud of you. 

874
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,440
Oh, I read it and I was like, I 
was crying. 

875
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,080
I was like, what the fuck? 
I'm reading this fucking 

876
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,200
marketing book. 
I'm crying. 

877
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,360
I'm like tearing up now talking 
about it because I'm like, 

878
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,040
that's all I wanted to hear. 
And I'm anyway. 

879
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,080
So like I judged that so much 
and I used to hold it back so 

880
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,440
much. 
And I'm like, Nope, don't judge 

881
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,880
that anymore. 
I just, that's all I ever wanted

882
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,520
to hear from my dad. 
And then hearing that I was 

883
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,040
like, oh, anyway, like, and I 
just stopped, started, started 

884
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,520
observing it and I was like, oh,
right. 

885
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,520
So I know it's so kind of 
observe without judgement. 

886
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,280
This is what the, the, the step 
is. 

887
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,800
It's like, oh, just being OK 
about just observing it and 

888
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,560
yourself and like, Oh yeah, I'm,
I'm really upset about that. 

889
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,840
There's no, that doesn't make me
any less or more of a man. 

890
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,680
It doesn't make me a wet wipe. 
It doesn't make me weak. 

891
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,600
It's like, Oh yeah, I just feel 
like that. 

892
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,200
So that was really interesting. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

893
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:24,400
Step #10 this the, the last step
is trust in the process is no, 

894
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,160
this is a process and to go 
right, this is long term. 

895
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,120
And this is someone I was 
speaking to. 

896
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,320
I hope he listens to this. 
Speaking to my the guy in 

897
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,640
concierge downstairs a couple of
days ago. 

898
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,440
Make a make a commitment to 
listen to it. 

899
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:42,760
There you. 
Go yeah, I'm going to. 

900
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,800
From me you can say, listen, my 
buddy said I've got and when he 

901
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,320
listens to it and I'm talking to
you, Mr. Concierge Guy, there 

902
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,440
you go. 
Yeah, come on, D Right. 

903
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,440
And we're talking about identity
change and shifting identity. 

904
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,560
And he was like, yeah, but Pete,
how long will it take? 

905
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:05,120
How long would like, can I get 
it? 

906
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,600
Can I get this done quickly and 
my answer? 

907
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,840
Yeah, mushrooms. 
It was not that my answer was. 

908
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,480
That is the wrong question my 
friend. 

909
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,440
It is, yeah. 
It what this is more of a a 

910
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,280
statement that this is I am in 
this for the long term. 

911
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,640
Hey, I'll do this for 10 years. 
Hey, I'll do this for 20 years. 

912
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,680
Like that's my commitment to 
this. 

913
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,040
Do not be interested in doing 
something like this. 

914
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,240
Fucking commit and don't commit 
for a year. 

915
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,320
Go do you know what I I trust 
these guys on awakened man seem 

916
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,640
to, you know, know a little bit 
about a bit. 

917
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,320
I'll commit to this for 10 
years, see how I get on and I'm 

918
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:53,200
and just trust the life, the 
universe, faith, whatever it is 

919
00:52:53,200 --> 00:53:00,280
that you might feel drawn to, 
has your back and you'll be well

920
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,760
in your way, my friends. 
Yeah, that's really profound. 

921
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:11,160
That was a word that came up for
me a lot, Trust faith. 

922
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,560
And it was really frustrating 
because I I literally had no 

923
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,240
concept of faith. 
We should do a podcast on this. 

924
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,760
Yeah, well, I actually got 
someone who who said that they'd

925
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,160
come and talk to us about this 
because. 

926
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,600
I have way more insights on it 
now since with the last 

927
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,560
discussion we had. 
Yeah, because I and me too. 

928
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,440
And I'm still, I'm still 
learning about this because like

929
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,640
for me, trust and faith and like
this is like the next and maybe 

930
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,280
this is the road map, you know, 
like where Pete and I are 

931
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,960
talking about where we're going 
with this is like we're speaking

932
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,920
to a lot of guys, successful 
men, successful women. 

933
00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:46,600
One of the things that they have
is that some sort of faith they 

934
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,160
have, they have faith and it's 
not religion. 

935
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,280
It could be religion. 
But it is like I'm just noticing

936
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,320
this, that it gets Maslow talked
about in terms of the hierarchy 

937
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,960
of needs. 
When you get all the, you know, 

938
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,960
every step of the need, then you
start to have more faith. 

939
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,160
But yeah, I think it's, it's 
definitely something I'd like to

940
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,800
to talk through and we will 
commit to bringing a, a podcast 

941
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,520
on that. 
Team that is end of this 

942
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:17,720
podcast, TuneIn next week for 
the next and thanks so much for 

943
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:22,480
listening. 
Catch you later before you go. 

944
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,800
We are a believer in the ripple 
effect. 

945
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,120
So who do you think would 
benefit from this episode? 

946
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,040
That you could send it to a mate
or a group of mates, a family 

947
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,600
member, a team colleague, the 
intern. 

948
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,080
They would listen to it and then
they would become better and 

949
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,560
then the ripple effect will 
continue. 

950
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:44,640
Who could you send it to?
