1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Your brain is never the same two days in a row. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,560 It's not even the same 2 minutes in a row. 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,160 Problem is, most of us think the same things over and over. 80% 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,760 of the things we think and feel every day are false. 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,120 No, wait, 80% somebody might say, well I've always been this 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,920 way. It's never going to change. 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,720 What is your hope to that person? 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,400 God built your brain to get better overtime and not to get 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,000 worse overtime. There is an element of what we 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,960 hear in our heads that is not just neurological activity but 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,520 spiritual warfare. Wow, what do you think the 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,920 percentage is of people that are held back by their thoughts 13 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,080 versus their actual circumstances? 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:43,440 All of them. What if you could actually do 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,080 brain surgery on yourself? What if you could actually move 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,320 away from those parts that kind of seem to linger and limit 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,960 what? Today we're going to be talking 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,440 to Doctor Lee Warren. And Doctor Warren has been a 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,520 friend to our family for quite a while and he's just written an 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,519 amazing book called The Life Changing Art of Self Brain 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,360 Surgery. We're not going to use knives, 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,920 but we are going to use something actually way more 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,520 powerful to pull things that are holding you back out of your 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,640 life. Doctor Warren, thank you so much 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,640 for joining us. And I believe this book is so 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,840 crucial. There is so much going out there 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:29,440 right now that is about mind over matter manifesting new age. 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,480 And you are approaching this from a completely different 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,120 frame of mind. You are going with scripture and 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,200 you are going with the word of God. 31 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,880 And I cannot wait to unpack this book. 32 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:43,400 Thank you for having me, Lisa. Absolutely. 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,960 It's a joy. Well, why? 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,040 Why did you write this book? Well, so I'm practicing 35 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,040 neurosurgeon, right, for 25 years now. 36 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,040 But I'm also a guy who's been through a lot. 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,680 I've been to the Iraq war as a neurosurgeon and dealt with PTSD 38 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,040 from some of the things I saw there. 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,960 And then we lost his son in 2013. 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,400 And so as a person who works in the space of helping people 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,280 process and navigate through hard things, I became one of 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,280 those people that was navigating hard things. 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,200 And I found that my faith and my science that I taught and 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,160 practiced needed to unite and unify. 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,960 And so I, I started studying how science and faith are supposed 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,440 to work together to help us flourish, which is what I think 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,320 both of them are designed to do. And so for the last 12 years 48 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,320 since Mitch died, I've been working on that. 49 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:39,200 And now I'm ready to help other people understand how how things 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,200 have been does not have to be how they are. 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,120 Yeah, you know, I, we were talking just very briefly 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,560 beforehand and I said it's like people have lost their minds 53 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,600 and, and no, and I wasn't, I wasn't, you know, like you used 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:53,920 to say, oh, they've lost their mind. 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,680 And it, it seemed like it was a few people, but it feels like 56 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:03,240 there is a collective people just they're not making sense. 57 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,440 They're not processing things correctly. 58 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,200 They're not processing other people's pain correctly. 59 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,400 And what can we do about that? Because I feel like this is 60 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,720 something, and I'm, I'm assuming that you're saying we start here 61 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,160 and then we respond out. Can you kind of kind of frame 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:30,040 what your greatest hope is for this book and why this is 63 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,480 incredibly crucial because somebody might say, well, I, you 64 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,720 know, I've always been this way. It's never going to change. 65 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,920 My past is, is today is like yesterday. 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,320 It's just going to keep going back. 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,840 And what what is your hope to that person and what is your 68 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,280 hope for this book? My greatest hope is that I can 69 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,720 help people understand that there is a tremendous amount of 70 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,520 agency and control and therefore hope and the fact that God built 71 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,760 your brain to get better over time and not to get worse over 72 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,000 time. In our, in our cultural moment 73 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,080 right now, we're being taught that if the wrong stuff happens 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,960 to you or you're raised by the wrong folks, or you inherited 75 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,760 the wrong genes, or you go through something hard, that it 76 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,160 can break your brain in a way that you can't recover from. 77 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,079 And then everybody needs to just huddle around you and pat you on 78 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:19,800 the back and and feel sorry for you for how hard you've had it. 79 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,120 And stop triggering you and. Stop triggering you. 80 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,200 And, and we put, we put these things that we, we almost adopt 81 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,160 them as identities. We put them in our Instagram 82 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,520 profiles and say, here's how I am. 83 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,120 Here's my personality type. Here's my Enneagram score. 84 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,200 This is how you need to treat me. 85 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,400 And the perception has been that our brains create who we are and 86 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,440 therefore we're stuck with that. But the truth is, from both 87 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,400 Scripture, what it's always said, and from what neuroscience 88 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,840 is discovering in the 21st century, your brain is never the 89 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:50,720 same two days in a row. It changes constantly. 90 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,920 So your brain, wait, hang on, your brain is never the same two 91 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,600 days in a row. That's right, It's not even the 92 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,200 same 2 minutes in a row because your brain is constantly 93 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,520 disconnecting and reconnecting itself from neurons and groups 94 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,040 of neurons in your brain. And so that means that you're 95 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,760 literally never have the same structural brain as you had a 96 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,840 few moments ago. And what we've learned in the 97 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:14,880 21st century is that the primary thing that drives how neurons 98 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,880 connect going forward is not how they've always been. 99 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,280 It's about what you're thinking about. 100 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,840 And so our thoughts actually literally structurally change 101 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:24,920 what our brains become structurally. 102 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,760 And that changes turns into what our bodies do hormonally, 103 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,240 neurotransmitter wise, and how our genes get turned on and off 104 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,440 and passed on to our children. So literally from thought to 105 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,120 thought, you're building a brain that's different than the one 106 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,200 before. The problem is, most of us think 107 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,280 the same things over and over. We begin to believe that how 108 00:05:42,280 --> 00:05:44,720 it's been is how it has to be. This is just who I am. 109 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,360 I got the wrong set of stuff for my folks. 110 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,400 I went through the wrong things. And so we create the same brain 111 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,840 over and over that we've always had. 112 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:55,520 And that's why we feel so stuck. And is there safety for people 113 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,200 to actually perpetuate the stuck because I do feel I do feel like 114 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,040 my OK, I'm a boomer. I think you might be a boomer. 115 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,560 I don't know. But I was born in 1960 and we 116 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,560 did have the mindset that, hey, you go through some hard stuff, 117 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,920 it makes you stronger. You, you, you go through these 118 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,680 hard things. It doesn't mean they're, doesn't 119 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,720 mean they're easy. It doesn't mean, you know, you 120 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,800 losing a son. I, I cannot even imagine that. 121 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,200 But I've talked to every single person that's ever been in that 122 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,360 situation and they don't deny the grief, but they redeem it. 123 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,640 And it sounds like you've taken this and said, I, I'm, I'm not 124 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:41,520 going to make excuses for you to remain in captivity when God is 125 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,000 offering you freedom. That's right. 126 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,960 And I, I do think there's sometimes people would rather be 127 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,480 prisoner of war than warriors. Well, I think we we develop a 128 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,800 comfort level with what we know, right? 129 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,040 And so psychologically speaking, it seems safer sometimes to stay 130 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,800 even in an uncomfortable position. 131 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:04,560 Or if you find validation and identity in that place and other 132 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,400 people are, in fact, you'll have no shortage of people who will 133 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,520 come along and pay you on the back and say, I feel so sorry 134 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,320 for you, right? It's easy to find those folks. 135 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,880 What's hard is to start changing the dynamics of the family you 136 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,320 grew up in or the people that you're around or the people who 137 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,800 have gone through something hard with you. 138 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,440 And you say, I want my future to be different than this. 139 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,080 I don't want to think these same things again. 140 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,480 Sometimes that challenges power structures and other 141 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,520 relationships, and so it can be hard and scary to change. 142 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,600 But what's interesting is we've learned from neuroscience in the 143 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,920 21st century that it's actually true that when you go through 144 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,640 something hard, your brain gets stronger and more robust and 145 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,280 more able to deal with hard things. 146 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,160 But we're being told it breaks down. 147 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,560 That's right. But we're seeing with what we 148 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,760 call functional imaging now. We can put you in a scanner and 149 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,080 we can look at what your brain is doing when you think certain 150 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,320 things. And we can actually see people 151 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,640 get more robust and more resilient and develop more 152 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,640 willpower because they've gone through hard things, which is 153 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,280 what Romans 5 says all along, right? 154 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,640 The suffering produces endurance. 155 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,720 Endurance produces character. Character produces hope. 156 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,680 So neuroscience is coming around to the idea that if you want to 157 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,880 be a hopeful, resilient person, you need to have gone through 158 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,200 some hard things. And then that backs up to how do 159 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,200 we raise our kids? We're seeing this generation 160 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,000 that are we got to protect them. We can't let them, can't let 161 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,720 them go through anything hard. If they're sitting behind a mean 162 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,840 kid, we need to write a letter to the teacher and make sure 163 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,720 they move my kid and put them on a team with the coach that they 164 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,160 like. And what we're teaching, what 165 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,240 we're seeing is that kids are growing up and they they can't 166 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,760 launch, they can't go through hard things. 167 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,120 Life is hard and they don't know how to deal with it because we 168 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,360 didn't let them go through hard things when they were younger 169 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,880 and their brains were looking for proof that they could 170 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,039 survive hard things. And so one of the things I'm 171 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,559 most passionate about now is having gone through the loss of 172 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,880 a son. And I've seen God keep that 173 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,360 Romans 828 promise on the back end that he's going to work good 174 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,280 out of this. Not that it will become a good 175 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,120 thing, but that he can work something good and beautiful out 176 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,080 of it. He can, He can show us what 177 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,760 meaning and purpose look like on the backside of trauma. 178 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,720 And I can just tell you, 12 years after losing my son, it is 179 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,960 it, it, it became the thing that showed me what my life was for 180 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:10,080 because I lost such a went through a such a great loss. 181 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,120 And me and my family went through that and we found that 182 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,200 God's promises were true. You do get stronger, you do get 183 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,320 more resilient. 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There is. 205 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,000 So there's always a robust possibility, but sometimes 206 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,240 people are like, no, I'm going to, I'm going to stay with the 207 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,760 victim mentality. And then your brain would 208 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,520 reprogram accordingly. That's right. 209 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,200 So the, The thing is, a lot of us, and I think most of us at at 210 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,640 least on some level, we equate quality of life with ease of 211 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,200 circumstance. So if I, as long as nothing bad 212 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,480 happens, I can have a good life. And then and then society will 213 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,200 validate that, right? If you're, if you're a good 214 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,120 person, you work hard and you do right, and God will protect you 215 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,480 and nothing bad is going to happen to you. 216 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,000 And then when something does, it can throw your faith into a 217 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,040 tailspin. Or if you're not a believer, you 218 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,720 can wonder, you know, why would a, would a good guy allow this 219 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,600 kind of thing to happen? Or maybe there's not a God or 220 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,000 something like this evil can exist. 221 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,720 And what we find out is you can either choose to wallow in the 222 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,360 circumstance and allow it to define what your future looks 223 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,440 like. Isaiah called that the furnace 224 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,600 of suffering, right? You can. 225 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,160 You can be burned up and defined by the suffering. 226 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,160 And we all know that person, the person who 20 years ago, 227 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,080 something hard happened. And if you bump into them on the 228 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,880 street today, you'll say, how's it going? 229 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,080 And they'll say, well, I'm having a rough day because I 230 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,600 went through this hard thing 20 years ago. 231 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,400 And right, they're staying in that. 232 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,480 And it has become the thing that defines them. 233 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,840 And now that we understand that your thoughts turn your brain 234 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,240 into what it is, which means that's how you feel. 235 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,160 Those are the emotions that you feel. 236 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,680 Those are the neurotransmitters that you make your, your, your 237 00:11:57,680 --> 00:12:00,840 repetitive thoughts create the brain that creates the life that 238 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,280 you have. If you decide instead I'm going 239 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,040 to allow God to show me what my future could look like, how I 240 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,800 could find meaning and purpose again, then you'll begin to 241 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,960 develop a brain that supports you in trying to learn how to 242 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,480 find hope and move forward again. 243 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,400 And so it's a choice. It doesn't always seem like an 244 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,880 easy choice, but it is always an available choice to each of us 245 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,520 if we're willing to do the work. Doctor Lee, how much of our 246 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,360 thinking processes are disinherited from our parents or 247 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,920 it's just like woven into our environment At what are your 248 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,760 thoughts on that? That's a really important point 249 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,960 because most all of us are raised in an environment with a 250 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,840 certain set of genetics that we inherited in a culture and a 251 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,520 worldview before we ever have language or understand the rules 252 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,240 of engagement for the world are sort of imposed upon us. 253 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,400 And so the baseline ways in which we think, feel, believe, 254 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,680 and act are imprinted upon us before we ever have an 255 00:12:54,680 --> 00:12:56,960 opportunity to get cognitive about it and think about it. 256 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,320 And so that's why so many of us feel like this is just how I am. 257 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,360 This is how my dad was, this how my grandfather was. 258 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,360 There's another thing called epigenetics that that sort of 259 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,520 programs a lot of your baseline stress responses and cortisol 260 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,160 levels and all those things based on hard things that your 261 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,240 parents and grandparents went through that you've never 262 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,520 experienced yourself. And so understanding those two 263 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,120 things that that you react a lot of the ways that you do because 264 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,800 of the rules of engagement that were imprinted upon you before 265 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,880 you were aware of it. And that a lot of the things 266 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,080 about how your genes are expressed came from things that 267 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,800 happened to generations before you. 268 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,840 Then if you understand that and that you begin to remodel your 269 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,400 brain as soon as you change the the way that you think about 270 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,320 things, then you can say it's not my fault how I got here, but 271 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,560 I have responsibility for where I go next. 272 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,400 And the process of neuroplasticity and renewing 273 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,840 your mind changes as soon as you start thinking one thing and not 274 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,680 another thing. Wow, that is amazing. 275 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,040 I love that. That is so. 276 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,680 That is so empowering. You know, because the Bible says 277 00:13:55,680 --> 00:14:00,320 that the sins of the parents are not to be visited on the 278 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,040 children. OK anymore. 279 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,360 It says, you know, it's used to be for three to four 280 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,720 generations, but you're saying the thought patterns can still 281 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,800 be there with the epigenetics. That's right, and not only the 282 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,640 thought patterns, but we know that certain things do run in 283 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,400 families. Alcoholism, abuse, abnormal 284 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,280 stress responses have been studied really well in Holocaust 285 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,440 survivors down to 4 generations that those kids are born with 286 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,560 abnormally high cortisol levels. So that means what you do is 287 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,120 that the generational curse mentioned wasn't a threat from 288 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,480 God. I'm going to punish your kids. 289 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,400 It was a warning because if you don't get this right in your 290 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,720 lifetime, your kids are going to struggle with things they've 291 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,760 never actually encountered. And so the the freedom there is 292 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,360 that if we get it right, our kids can improve it in their 293 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,760 lifetimes and future generations can be born better off than we 294 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,840 were because we learned how to renew our minds in our in our 295 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,400 generations. Wow. 296 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,880 So if we don't, what's at risk is our children are going to 297 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,920 struggle with things. Perpetuating things that that we 298 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,320 are they. Never even faced, but they're 299 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,480 going to still wrestle with those things that were in 300 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,760 previous generations. Wow, wow, wow. 301 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,200 That is sobering and empowering at the same time. 302 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,760 It is. So, Doctor Lee, let's say 303 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,360 there's a mother and a baby, a mother and a father, and they're 304 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,800 sitting home and they have bought into the lie that 305 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,120 avoidance of every problem is the best situation for our son 306 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,200 or for our daughter. And now they're realizing, wow, 307 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,360 I did not position them to develop strengths that they 308 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,120 needed. Where do they start? 309 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,680 Now? What do they do? 310 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,880 They let's say their, their child is, is 10 or their child 311 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,960 is a teenager and they're like, Oh no, is there, is there hope? 312 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,000 Is there a way to, to flip some of this? 313 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,200 What, what what? What would some of that catalyst 314 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,560 look like for them? I think the the the first thing 315 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,040 is that that because we know the science is on your side, that 316 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,920 the brain begins to remodel and change as soon as you start 317 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,440 thinking different thoughts. And the first thing is to 318 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,200 understand this. The research also indicates, 319 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,400 Lisa, that about 80% of the things we think and feel 320 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,960 everyday are false. No way, 80%. 321 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,280 About 5 to 1. Most of the thoughts that pop 322 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,760 into your head are not true. I'm pretty sure 80% before I 323 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,280 drink coffee is definitely wrong. 324 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,520 I know that. It is, and so So here's the 325 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,160 here's the interesting thing. If your thoughts create the 326 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,800 brain that you have, and about 80% of your thoughts are untrue, 327 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,960 if you don't know that and you react to them as if they are 328 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,880 true, then you're building a brain to support you and making 329 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,200 decisions based on information that was never true. 330 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,000 So I'm making a brain that lives supported by falsehoods. 331 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,400 And falsehood, That's right. So if you've got a child and you 332 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,920 recognize, hey, I've taught my kid to be over sensitive to 333 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,440 risk, to be risk averse, and now I'm saying that they're a child 334 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,400 who can't engage with anything that feels scary or dangerous 335 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,280 and it creates anxiety and panic in them. 336 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,800 The first step is to say, well, the first, I need to teach my 337 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,080 child that not everything they think and feel is true. 338 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,720 And that's what the Bible said all along, right? 339 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,800 Take your thoughts captive. Second Corinthians 10/5, reform 340 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,240 your thinking, don't conform your thinking. 341 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,960 But research has shown very clearly now that not only are 342 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,560 80% of the things we think false, but about 90% of the 343 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,200 things we think about every day are the same set of things that 344 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,480 we thought about the previous day. 345 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:22,560 And so that means if you take those two things in context, 346 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:27,240 that most of what right, most of what pops into my head isn't 347 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,320 true. And most days I wake up and 348 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,400 think about the same bunch of stuff I thought about the 349 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,600 previous day. And now that I know that my 350 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,520 thoughts turn my brain into what it is, I'm continuing to feed my 351 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,600 brain the same generally untrue thoughts and and tell my brain 352 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,280 that the generally untrue things I feel are true. 353 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,600 And then my society says I need to validate my feelings. 354 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,640 I need to follow my heart, I need to live my truth, all those 355 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,240 things. Then what I'm doing is I'm 356 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,600 creating a brain that's looking at the world and seeing 357 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,840 falsehood and not having a mechanism by which to determine 358 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,200 that it's false. And so your, your, your job as a 359 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,600 parent is to say, hey, I know this feels big and I know it 360 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,080 feels powerful, but it might not be true. 361 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,520 And so let's develop a mechanism for discerning whether the 362 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,120 things I feel and think are true or not before we react to them. 363 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,760 Because if it's not true, you don't need to react to it. 364 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,120 You don't need to live in it if it isn't true. 365 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,480 Wow. Well, I mean, that explains what 366 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,000 I said at the the very beginning. 367 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,200 Like people have lost their minds. 368 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:31,560 They're they're actually living in a stronghold of lies. 369 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,840 It sounds like everything's being processed through faulty 370 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,600 reasoning. OK, so going back to that 371 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,040 parent, because I, I know I've got lots of moms and they're 372 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,960 like, Oh my gosh, Doctor Lee, what do I do? 373 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,760 So I love that you can say, hey, that's big. 374 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,400 Would it be beneficial for the parents to maybe sit their son 375 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,760 or daughter down and say, listen, we love you so much that 376 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:01,360 we thought the best situation for you was to keep you and 377 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:06,120 shelter you from any type of hardship or confrontation or, 378 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,360 you know, conflict? And we realize now that that was 379 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:13,040 a mistake. And we realize now, because it 380 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,120 sounds like you're actually saying that the parents are 381 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:18,160 trying to protect them from anxious situations is actually 382 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:23,160 creating anxiety a generation of anxious children because they've 383 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,600 never developed the skill set to realize, oh, I went through that 384 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,800 and I, I lived, I survived. I, I'm still friends with that 385 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,680 person. I had a hard conversation, but 386 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,560 it's OK, I lost that game. But I can doesn't mean I'm a 387 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,960 loser. I mean those kind of things. 388 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:44,240 So can there be a turning point where the parents can say that 389 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:50,440 to the child and then the family as a whole says this is the new 390 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,800 way of we're looking at things? Because if it really feels like 391 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,320 if the parents don't see it, they're going to by accident 392 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,520 perpetuate that. That's right. 393 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,400 I'll just speak for myself personally. 394 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,200 My mother and my father, my mom had a very traumatic upbringing. 395 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,160 And I would hear her retail incidents of things that 396 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,000 happened 20-30, you know, 40-50 years ago. 397 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:17,880 And some of those I was part of. And I didn't even recognize what 398 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,160 she was saying because she repeated it so many times, but 399 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:28,520 it got layered with emotion and her present day contacts or, or 400 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,320 whatever where it was, I was like, wait. 401 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,080 And, and I, it was like there was a situation where there was 402 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,640 no ability to move forward because we were working with a 403 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:46,880 bunch of non truths over here. And, and almost like, I remember 404 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:52,640 there was a day I, I said to her mom, that's just not true. 405 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,680 And her, her little eyes, she just looked at me like, Oh my 406 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:03,640 gosh, have I built all this time on something that was false? 407 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:11,200 And, and I do believe there's a lot of people right now that are 408 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:17,360 waking U an realizing that there's been a constant 409 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:20,720 messaging of you're a victim. You're a victim. 410 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,320 People are after you, you know, divide, division, you know, 411 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,200 whatever's going on and you choose sides instead of renew 412 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,800 your mind. As a woman who is 65 and went 413 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,880 through menopause in the last decade, I'm going to tell you 414 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,680 there's a crazy woman in your brain if you don't renew it. 415 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,160 I mean, it is, it is a, it is a real thing. 416 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,840 And 80% of probably the things I was thinking or reacting to 417 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,320 emotionally and wanted to spend emotional would have gotten me 418 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,320 arrested, you know, or thrown off of airplanes or out of 419 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,480 public speaking or edited in my books. 420 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:03,640 And so it sounds like there needs to be a a turning what we 421 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,160 model, our children learn, even how we navigate tough times. 422 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,520 If you are looking for resources to help in teaching tough 423 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,640 lessons, Brave Books is a Christian children's 424 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,960 entertainment company that can help you out. 425 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,800 They teach children biblical truths like courage, God-given 426 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,680 identity, forgiveness, fruits of the Spirit and more. 427 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,240 And when you join the Brave Book Club, you get a new book 428 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,120 delivered to your door every month. 429 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,440 You also get free access to Brave Plus, which is their 430 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,080 streaming platform. 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And it's hard as a surgeon, we 440 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,640 call it, we call it approach in surgery. 441 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,360 The, the, the, the set of things that we're thinking about the, 442 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,360 the way that we put the patient on the table, that the location 443 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:33,960 of the incision, the technologies and tools we're 444 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,480 going to use for the operation, all those things. 445 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,800 We go into what we call approach. 446 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,640 And one of the hardest things to do, Lisa, is to be in the middle 447 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,560 of an operation and start to see that it this is going to be 448 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,200 harder than it should be. I'm going to lose more blood. 449 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,440 I might hurt my patient in some way. 450 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,040 I might not be able to get this whole tumor out. 451 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,040 One of the hardest things is to stop an operation and change 452 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,400 approaches and recognize and admit to my team, hey guys, we 453 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,360 need to close this up. I need to move the patient. 454 00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:02,040 I need to change the approach. It's hard and a lot of surgeons 455 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,560 don't have the juice to do that and they'll. 456 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,960 Just would that be humility? It's humility, it's integrity, 457 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,320 it's it's willingness to introspect on your own decision 458 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,440 making. And so sometimes surgeons just 459 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,520 finish an operation and they tell the family, we did all we 460 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,120 could do when they really just chose the wrong approach. 461 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,320 And I think going back to your question about parents, like one 462 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,120 of the one of the hardest things to do is to say to your 463 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:28,760 children, we've been saying some things to you that we recognize 464 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,440 aren't the best advice to have given you. 465 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,200 We chose the wrong approach. We need to rethink how we 466 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,320 discuss feelings and thoughts in this house. 467 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,520 We need to rethink how we make decisions in this house because 468 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,560 a lot of the things we've been reacting to were never true. 469 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,440 And so now we need to change approaches. 470 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,560 And I can tell you though, that if you're a patient, you want a 471 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,880 surgeon who is willing to say, you know what I do, I'm going to 472 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,360 switch approaches here because I want this tumor out. 473 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,560 I want my patients to survive. I want the best outcome here. 474 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,720 It takes it takes a lot of courage. 475 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,920 And so when I talk about self brain surgery, it's this idea 476 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,800 that you're a patient, you're dealing with your own life, your 477 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,120 own brain, your own mind, all these things going on, your own 478 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:11,520 family, but you also have some agency and control as if you're 479 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,040 a surgeon because you can decide to interact with your thinks, 480 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,000 with your thoughts and feelings in a different way than you have 481 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,800 before. I think especially when it comes 482 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,400 down to parenting, like love your kids enough to acknowledge 483 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,800 when you chose the wrong approach and show them that that 484 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,000 good people can make mistakes and that they can pull the 485 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,960 trigger and change when they need to to get the best outcome. 486 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,600 Wow, Wow. I love that. 487 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,360 And again, you know, we, we've had to change approaches so many 488 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:45,080 times with our own children. And, and I know for us, that has 489 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,680 always been an opportunity to learn. 490 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,640 That's right. It's always been an opportunity 491 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,720 to learn. And it's not just us that learn 492 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,040 in that moment, but our children learn. 493 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,040 Yeah. Oh, it's OK to own a mistake. 494 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,840 That's right. It's OK to to say you made a 495 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,640 mistake. You know, John and I were even 496 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,680 just talking about something yesterday and I thought, could 497 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,360 it be that we need to change our approach on some of this? 498 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:10,120 And he was like, you know what? I think that needs to be a 499 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:13,120 conversation. And so I just want people to be 500 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,880 empowered. That almost sounds and and it 501 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,120 sounds like you're saying you can step away and you can look 502 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,000 at this in the light of God's Word. 503 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,880 That's right. And the approach you're doing 504 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,400 right now, it's not working. So maybe we need to flip this 505 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,120 and maybe we need to look at it from a different angle. 506 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,880 Maybe we need to approach it from a different way. 507 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:39,800 Maybe, you know, this is a, a way that we've never walked 508 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,320 before, but we know the scripture will give us light and 509 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,240 give us truth. And, and let's just be curious 510 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,480 enough to, to say, let's, let's do this. 511 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,320 You know, I am, I am half Sicilian, which I'm very proud 512 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,200 of. And I always say to the women, 513 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,840 when we're talking, when I'm doing certain messages, I say 514 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,920 you think you're a victim. But because I'm Sicilian, if I 515 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,240 get attacked, I think I'm a threat. 516 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,720 And they said you need to see yourself as a threat rather than 517 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,600 a victim. And the attacks against your 518 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,600 life have more to do with who you might be in the future than 519 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,280 who you have been in the past. But most people live in the 520 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,240 limitations of their brains past. 521 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,000 And then it sounds like here's the past where there's pain. 522 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,080 And then you're saying the enemy comes and layers false 523 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,160 information. God doesn't care about you. 524 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,840 People don't care about you. You'll never be enough. 525 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,080 You'll never be loved. You'll never change. 526 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,200 All men leave, all women, whatever that that false 527 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:51,600 narrative is that keeps people from actually going to the root 528 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,080 of getting like that tumor out. That's right. 529 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,520 We need to understand that there is an element of what we hear in 530 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,360 our heads that is not just neurological activity but 531 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:05,440 spiritual warfare. And it's not always diagnosis. 532 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,960 Sometimes it's devil too, right? I mean, so I think we do need to 533 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,160 be aware that we have an enemy. Jesus said in John 1010, The 534 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,240 thief comes to steal and kill and destroy that came that you 535 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,680 might have life and have it abundantly. 536 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,240 And Jesus isn't talking about material circumstances, 537 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,680 possessions, wealth. He's talking about our Peace of 538 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,840 Mind, our ability to be resilient and to navigate 539 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,160 hardship in a way that still shows us that there's meaning 540 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,200 and purpose, right? So you have an enemy that 541 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,400 doesn't want you to live in abundance, doesn't want other 542 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,680 people to find their way towards that abundance. 543 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:39,640 And he gets in your head and everything he says to you is a 544 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,200 lie, or at least is a truth wrapped in lies. 545 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,360 And so that's why it's so important to discern and be 546 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,040 aware that not everything you think and feel is true, but also 547 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,280 not everything you think and feel is from you or from the 548 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,440 Lord. And so sometimes we have a, we 549 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,120 have an enemy spirit operating who wants us to focus on our 550 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,760 feelings, who wants us to focus on the past, who wants us to 551 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,480 separate from our parents if they were mean to us when we 552 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,560 were nine, You know that we see this whole spirit right now, 553 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,360 people disowning their families, but who hasn't made mistakes 554 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,560 raising their children right? Like so I heard you talk to 555 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,080 Henry Cloud about that, about boundaries. 556 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,720 And how about we're not supposed to be using boundaries to break 557 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,920 up families, We're supposed to be using them to heal families. 558 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,920 So, so remember that there's an enemy, and remember that 559 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,440 neurological activity explains part of what's going on in your 560 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,960 head, but spiritual activity explains most of it, or a lot of 561 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,800 it. You know, I I know I just did 562 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,280 something with Doctor Axe and we talked about how everything is 563 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,760 spiritual and it doesn't mean it's always the devil, but there 564 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,920 usually is a spiritual element, whether it's whether you want to 565 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,480 acknowledge it or not, like even what you said, those high things 566 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,800 that would exalt themselves, they consist knowing God. 567 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,480 There is thoughts, there is it, you know, those constantly 568 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,880 messaging and right now with what is going on in our world 569 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,720 with social media and all the irresponsibility of the media 570 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,640 and you know, everything going around, it feels like chaos, 571 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,920 chaos, chaos, chaos. And and yet God is, is saying, 572 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,640 people, I need you to renew your mind. 573 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,360 And we can't renew our mind by looking at yesterday's news. 574 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,240 And if we have to renew our mind with the word of God because the 575 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,320 word of God is alive and is active and it's sharper than any 576 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,600 2 edged sword. So Doctor Lee, what do you think 577 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,440 the percentage is of people that are held back by their thoughts 578 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,640 versus their actual circumstances? 579 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,800 All of them, I would say, if you think about this, this sequence, 580 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,320 I call it thoughts become things sequence that we just referenced 581 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,400 in Ephesians 4 a moment ago. When you choose, let's say you 582 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,280 think of yourself as a person carrying a bow and arrow, and 583 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,520 you got all these arrows and a quiver on your back, right? 584 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,600 Your thoughts exist in that quiver before you decide which 585 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,680 one to think and turn into a real thing in the world. 586 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,920 They're all equally possible. But until you choose an arrow 587 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,760 and put it in the bow and energize it and release it, it's 588 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,080 potential. But once you choose a thought 589 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,360 and react to it, a series of things happens. 590 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,240 And here's what they are. That immaterial thought in your 591 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,760 mind turns into an electrical event in your brain. 592 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,680 So now you've turned a thought into an electrical event in your 593 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,520 brain. That neuron fires and goes to 594 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,960 release a neurotransmitter in your hypothalamus. 595 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,480 And now that thought event has become an electrical event. 596 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,200 And now it's become a biological event. 597 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,160 Wow. And that neurotransmitter 598 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,600 releases a hormone in your pituitary gland that goes to 599 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,440 your adrenal gland and releases cortisol. 600 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,800 And now you have a physiological response that raises your blood 601 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,800 pressure or switches on epigenetics. 602 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,440 And you can take a thought to an electrical event, to a 603 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,320 biological 1, to a historical one by changing how your kids 604 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,240 are born. And so everything you think 605 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,280 about literally turns into something real in the world so 606 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,280 long before your circumstances have a chance to change how 607 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,800 things turn out for you. The way you think about 608 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,920 circumstances in general is already writing how you're 609 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,360 tending to respond to those things. 610 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,280 And so I would say 100% of people have more trouble with 611 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,760 the subset of things that they think about than they do with 612 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,240 what actually happens. And that explains how two people 613 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,440 can go through the exact same circumstance and have vastly 614 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,240 different outcomes. You know, so many, so many women 615 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,040 are now wrestling with a number of autoimmune diseases. 616 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,280 Is this something that can be addressed with changing their 617 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,040 thinking? Yes and no. 618 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,560 There there are. There are physical diseases that 619 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,400 we can't change with the things that we think about. 620 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,800 However, there is really good research to show that just about 621 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,920 every physiological process in your body will respond to 622 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,720 changing the milieu of things that you think about. 623 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,760 And so that's why cognitive behavioral therapy, for example, 624 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,920 has been so effective in chronic pain syndromes. 625 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,760 And so we can't ameliorate or eliminate every physical ailment 626 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,600 that comes along if we could by changing our thoughts and we'd 627 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,280 live forever. And we know that we don't. 628 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,120 We certainly can, man. We can make our thought 629 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,000 environment serve our physiological environment at a 630 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,200 holier level if you want to submit your thinking to God. 631 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,040 And then you can optimize the physiological environment of 632 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,120 your body, which we know now that that reducing inflammation 633 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,800 and changing the way that your body responds to things effects 634 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,200 and reduces the symptoms of many autoimmune diseases. 635 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,920 And so I think although we can't eliminate everything, we can 636 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,320 certainly improve our experience of it by changing the things 637 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,280 that we think about. I love that I, I didn't ask for 638 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,920 this test to be done, but somebody did a genetic test on 639 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:30,640 me and I guess I have a Yankee DNA strand or chromosome or 640 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,400 something. And it, they printed out this 641 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,400 list of all these horrible things that are supposed to 642 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,960 happen to me and I read them and I just like, I threw it away. 643 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,680 I tore it up, I threw it away. And a couple of them I'd 644 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,640 already, I'd already had cancer at 5. 645 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,080 There was a couple of things that already had happened, but I 646 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,760 remember calling another friend who would think very much like 647 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,440 we were thinking and he said, Lisa, pretty much everybody has 648 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,920 these things dormant in their body. 649 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,480 And he said stress is what he said. 650 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,200 These kind of things is like a gun held to your head, but 651 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,640 stress is what pulls the trigger. 652 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,080 And he said, so we're like, we weren't made to live forever. 653 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,440 We all have these kind of things that are like part of the fall 654 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,800 or part of whatever. And he said, but you just you 655 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,360 just have to manage your stress and your thoughts so you don't 656 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,960 pull that that trigger. So it sounds like you're saying 657 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:27,400 you you don't deny that those things are evidentially there or 658 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,840 a possibility, but you don't allow stress to cause you to 659 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,440 have those things be their focus. 660 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,800 That's right. Look at identical twins. 661 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,840 So they they don't live the same lifespans, they don't develop 662 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,400 the same disease profiles. They don't have the same kind of 663 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,239 health problems. And the reason is they, they 664 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,840 have a different lives and they have different thought lives. 665 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,800 And so we know that it's not the genes you inherit that tell the 666 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,360 story of what you're going to have in your life. 667 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,840 It's the epigenetic switches that come on and off in your 668 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,840 lifespan, lifespan. And so that means it's, it's 669 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,400 your environment, your thought environment, the decisions you 670 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,440 make. In fact, TD Jakes said in one of 671 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,560 his books that we are born looking like our parents, but we 672 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,240 die looking like our decisions. And that that line stuck with me 673 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:07,760 because it speaks to epigenetics. 674 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,840 It speaks to the things that become real in your life. 675 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,640 You have a lot of control over them. 676 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,120 So in this book, I love first of all, that you're merging. 677 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,960 I love that you said at the very beginning that science is 678 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,640 catching up to what the word of God has always said. 679 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,600 Like science is, oh, wait, wait, maybe God knew what he was 680 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,640 saying. Maybe Solomon knew, maybe, maybe 681 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,200 all of this kind of stuff was already in play. 682 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,720 So it's catching up. Is this book, is it user 683 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:36,400 friendly? Is it practical? 684 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,000 Yeah, so I give you what I call the 10 commandments of self 685 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,160 brain surgery, which are my and the right the why did I choose 686 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,480 10? The the 10 most important things 687 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,080 I've learned as I've tried to apply science and faith to each 688 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,680 other in a way that honors God and as a bereaved father, how 689 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,720 I've done that. So there's 10 lessons that are 690 00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,160 insanely practical about how people can flourish in their 691 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,720 lives using science and faith together. 692 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,520 And then I give you 15 very specific, we call them self 693 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,360 brain surgery operations, that particular things you can do if 694 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,520 you're feeling panic or anxiety or grief or chronic pain or all 695 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,760 kinds of things. And so there's a lot of 696 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,560 practical stuff in the book as well. 697 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,760 And then I just try to teach you a process of how you can 698 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,080 practice this in your life going forward. 699 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,480 Because the one of the most important things is to 700 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,160 understand that that operating your brain the way God designed 701 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,040 it to be operated isn't something you do when you're 702 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,360 feeling bad or or when you're having a bad day. 703 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,320 It's how we're supposed to live our lives all the time. 704 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,360 Because if you look at Ephesians chapter 4, for example, Paul 705 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,280 talks about what he calls the Gentiles and, and, and the 706 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,680 problems that they're having. And he lists all these sinful 707 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,920 things that people are doing, the adultery, the murder, all 708 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,960 that. And then he says they're lost in 709 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,120 the futility of their thinking. So thinking turns into your 710 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,200 life. What you think about isn't a 711 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,400 problem in your life. It's the root problem in your 712 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,680 life. And he says in 423, you need to 713 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,520 be renewed in the attitudes of your mind, right? 714 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,160 So the prescription for human flourishing is to change the 715 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,000 things you're thinking about that'll turn into better things 716 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,480 coming out of your life. And so I tried to write a book 717 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,840 that was prescriptive and also descriptive of a life, what a 718 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,160 life looks like, if you want to pursue that flourishing and 719 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,160 abundance that Jesus gave us. Well, I love that and I want to 720 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,040 thank you for writing that book. And I am believing that there 721 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,720 has been never, well, there's never been a more desperate need 722 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:28,240 for a book like this. And I'm just going to say this 723 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:31,240 to you out there. This is a book that is going to 724 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:33,200 not only give you practicalities, but it's going 725 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,280 to hold you accountable. And a lot of people are afraid 726 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,160 of being accountable. But I just want to remind you, 727 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,240 you don't want to give away your power to everybody else. 728 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,840 You want to actually be accountable. 729 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,800 You want to own your mistakes so that you can walk free and go 730 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,640 forward. And this is a time where 731 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,880 deception is abounding, fear is just radically compromising 732 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,920 people's ability to love, people's ability to connect, 733 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,680 people's ability to learn. And so I believe this book is 734 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,760 going to be a tool. It's going to be a sword in your 735 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,960 hand to slice through the enemy's lies and actually 736 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,200 recover. I also believe it can be a 737 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,760 restorative, restorative tool. I believe it would be a 738 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,160 restorative tool for you to have conversations with your family. 739 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,280 So many people out there, they thought they were doing the 740 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,040 right thing with their children and then found out that maybe 741 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,240 they didn't position for strength or maybe you made a lot 742 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:30,840 of mistakes. I feel like John and I made a 743 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,360 lot of mistakes with our children. 744 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,120 But this can be a new beginning for all of you. 745 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,240 And so this is such a key, important book. 746 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:46,560 Imagine, imagine thinking you can build a God honoring life 747 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:52,120 with 80% of your thoughts being untrue, being false, and 748 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,080 therefore the conclusions being completely corrupted. 749 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,000 I believe that we need to renew our mind, that we need to get 750 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,880 into God's word. We need to allow that word of 751 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,200 God to have its way in our life like never before. 752 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,080 And Doctor Lee Warren, you have always been a pioneer for this. 753 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,160 So thank you so much for joining me today. 754 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,680 Thank you, Lisa. It's an honor to be with you. 755 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,000 And they can get this book wherever books are sold, I'm 756 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,480 assuming. The book is called The Life 757 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,960 Changing Art of Self, Brain Surgery, connecting neuroscience 758 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,040 and faith to radically transform your life. 759 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,880 It's releasing February 3rd everywhere. 760 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,320 Books are sold all around the world, inaudible to all. 761 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,040 Right, Grab a copy for yourself, grab one for your friends, grab 762 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,160 one for your kids that maybe you messed up with. 763 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,240 I believe this is the beginning and a catalyst for a new life 764 00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:37,880 for your family.