1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,320 Have you ever felt like God is disappointed with your prayer 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,760 life? That you are failing every 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,560 single day. I want people to understand like 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,320 how God speaks to them uniquely. When you wake in the morning, 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,640 you're in this this state of liminality. 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,880 You're not fully awake. You're not fully asleep. 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,560 And of the time between time. The time between time that 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,720 unconscious brain that is below the conscious level, it's very 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,440 active when you first wake up. So you're more receptive, you're 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,120 more open to possibility, to receiving things that are beyond 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,840 yourself. That happens first thing in the 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,080 morning and and your body will stay in that state for 5 to 15 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,680 minutes if you allow it. He designed your body so that 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,000 you can receive the invitation first thing in the. 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,360 Morning. I don't think there's been a 16 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:50,360 more crucial time to be able to hear and rightly divide the 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,000 voice of God versus the voice of the accuser. 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,160 Tell them what it practically looks like. 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,520 They're waking up and normally they're kind of lay in bed. 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,120 Maybe I'll go back to. Sleep this. 21 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:08,120 It's going to sound crazy. Welcome to the least of your 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,720 podcast and this is a very, very special day for me because I am 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,320 having a conversation with my first born son, Addison David 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,160 and Addison has been my son. I've loved the longest. 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,760 He has seen us make the most mistakes of any of the children. 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,320 And I just, he has such a heart for prayer. 27 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,080 And you know, immediately when I hear prayer, I'm always like, 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,320 I'm not doing it enough. I'm not doing it right. 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,880 And maybe some of you out there, you are feeling the very same 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,640 way. And I'm going to tell you today, 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,720 you're going to be able to take a deep breath and you're going 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:50,640 to be able to dive in that this is not about a duty to be done. 33 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:56,640 It is about a ritual to refresh your soul and reconnect with 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,800 your creator. And too many of us have allowed 35 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:06,200 religion or shame or lack of prayer in our past to rob us of 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,280 a life of prayer in the future. And Addison, I'm just so excited 37 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,720 that you're bringing not just prayer, but tools for people to 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,280 be able to move forward and words with God. 39 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,000 OK, you wrote the book Words with God. 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,400 But I, I am excited about this prayer journal because I am 41 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,440 interactive. You know, I do better 42 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:29,760 journaling. I do better with journaling and 43 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,560 conversation then I can with just feeling like I'm bringing 44 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:40,040 something as an offering to God that you know, I, I, you know, 45 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,080 you and I've talked about your dad and I have very different 46 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,920 styles of prayer. And what I love is that you saw 47 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:50,800 the discipline and the consistency of your father and 48 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,800 then you saw, I don't even know how to describe what my life 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,680 would be. And you've come up with 50 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,120 something that's a hybrid that is your own. 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,120 Thanks, mom. Well, first, it's an honor to be 52 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,480 on your show on the least of your podcast. 53 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,200 This is the least of your podcast, Mother of Addison. 54 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Pretty big deal to be on your podcast. 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,560 So I just want to say it's an honor to be on your show. 56 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,080 Thank you for this conversation. And I'm listening to what you're 57 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,880 saying, and I'm sitting here and I'm thinking about the concept 58 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,280 of discipline, right? So you use the word discipline 59 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,360 to describe dad, and then you're describing you as something 60 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,800 different. I'm thinking about that and I'm 61 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,080 like, OK, I hear what you're saying. 62 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,240 But Mom, I feel like you've actually lived a very 63 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,320 disciplined life. I feel like your prayer life has 64 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,400 been radically consistent. I have these very cherished 65 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,680 memories of you interceding. There were certain moments when 66 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,880 I wouldn't let friends come over to the house because I knew you 67 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,640 would be travailing or you would be war dancing or doing 68 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,240 something there. Was a lot of war dancing. 69 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,440 Yeah, it was a holy environment, and I just couldn't let anyone 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,200 into that space. But I watched you as as a mother 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,880 of four young boys whose father was gone the majority of the 72 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,000 time. I watched you contend for your 73 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,120 sons. I watched you contend for your 74 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,200 identity beyond even just a mother and a wife, but what God 75 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,560 had placed on your life, cultivating that sense of 76 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,200 calling and purpose across seasons. 77 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,120 And I saw a woman who was radically consistent and in tune 78 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,600 with what the Spirit of God was doing in that day. 79 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,480 I think of what Paul says in Romans 8. 80 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,320 He says that those who keep in step with the Spirit of God are 81 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,800 sensitive to the Spirit of God. They are the sons and the 82 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,840 daughters of God. And I think the enemy, the 83 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:42,240 accuser, has done such a good job of robbing us of what I 84 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,880 would call living prayer. Because then you hit on this 85 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,080 earlier. There's so much shame, there's 86 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,520 so much misdirection, there's so much confusion, there's so much 87 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,480 performance that is wrapped around the idea of prayer, and I 88 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,560 hope we get to dismantle some of that today so people can see 89 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,120 just how much of their life belongs to the beauty and the 90 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:50,080 wonder and the power of prayer. And again, I think I think that 91 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:57,440 you are are mapping this out and repurposing, repackaging it for 92 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,800 people to have a fresh experience with prayer and 93 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,840 props. I don't know, I would have loved 94 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:04,720 to have your book. I'm just going to say that when, 95 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,240 when I was a young mom and thinking that, you know, I'd 96 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,720 been up breastfeeding a baby late at night and then my 97 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,320 husband would be home the few days and come in from prayer. 98 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,560 And I felt like, oh, God's already gone. 99 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,480 Like he's coming in from prayer and God's already gone. 100 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,200 I've missed my moment again. And I think so many women feel 101 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,800 this constant awareness of I'm, I'm, I'm a mom and I'm doing 102 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,120 this. I remember talking to one of my 103 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,720 friends and and I did try to create an environment that was 104 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,080 conducive to prayer in our household period, not just in 105 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,160 the morning, but I remember talking to one of my friends and 106 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,640 she told me, she said, Lisa, I feel like the only time I pray 107 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,200 is when I put my kids to bed at night. 108 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,680 And, and I don't know whether she felt ashamed about that or 109 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,840 not, but I just, well, at least you're doing that. 110 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,160 And I, I do feel like women want to have more vibrant prayer 111 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,760 life, but they, they don't know how to work that into their 112 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,920 self-care, daycare, childcare, you know, full time woman life. 113 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,120 Whole time woman life. I mean, there's so much being 114 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:22,200 sent to women that you have to do ABCDEFG and you and I both 115 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,760 know you can do it all, but you can't do it all at the same 116 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,160 time. No, you can't. 117 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,480 And I like to say that prayer shouldn't be another thing on 118 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,240 the list, another thing that you feel bad about not doing. 119 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,520 It should be the thing that energizes the entire list. 120 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,080 And I think there's some misconceptions that we probably 121 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:43,840 should just go after right now. So first, this idea that prayer 122 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,720 is more about speaking than it is about listening. 123 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Most of us, when we think about prayer, we think about what 124 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,400 we're doing and what we're not doing, when in reality, prayer 125 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,720 is about getting in on what God is doing. 126 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,280 So would that also? Be could we translate that to 127 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,680 what we're saying instead of what he's saying? 128 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,960 Correct. And OK, so let's look at some of 129 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,320 the passages on prayer that we'll find in the New Testament. 130 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,040 You have First Thessalonians 517, pray without ceasing. 131 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,320 You have Romans 12/12, pray constantly. 132 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,280 You have Ephesians 618 pray at all times in the Spirit. 133 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,840 That sounds like a lot of work. And when people when they think 134 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,160 about prayer and, and I've dug into the data, mom, it's it's 135 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,360 wild. So everyone thinks everyone else 136 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,840 is good at prayer, and most people think they're bad at 137 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,120 prayer. In fact, 98% of people consider 138 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,960 themselves Christ followers, think they're bad at prayer, 139 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,280 98%. When you think about, yeah, when 140 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,400 you think about the number of books that are written on 141 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,559 prayer, you think about the sermons on prayer. 142 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,000 But what largely happens is people, they're out there and 143 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,400 like, well, everyone else has got this figured out. 144 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,240 We get so many calls at Messenger. 145 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,280 I remember when I used to work in the customer relations 146 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,280 department, I get so many calls for people. 147 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,320 So your dad talks about hearing God's voice. 148 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,440 How does that happen? Like how, how do you, how do you 149 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,240 hear his voice? And then people say things like 150 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,560 prayer isn't a monologue, it's a dialogue. 151 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:07,840 And like, OK, but I, I don't hear anything. 152 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,840 So it just feels like a monologue. 153 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,000 And what has happened is prayers become this place of shame. 154 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,120 People feel like they're never doing enough. 155 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,400 They're not good enough. They're missing out on it and 156 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,640 they can't confess to this, to this misconnect, to this 157 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,000 disconnect, to this desire for something more because the 158 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,720 accuser who's brilliant in isolation has convinced them 159 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,040 that everyone else has got this figured out, but they're just 160 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,760 missing it. So you better just keep your 161 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,480 mouth shut and carry on and be a good soldier and take it so you 162 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,360 make it kind of thing. And and the reality is they're 163 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,600 bringing shame into their prayer life. 164 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,720 And mom, you know this, any kind of relationship where shame is 165 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,680 the defining factor, what's going to happen? 166 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,240 It's it's going to, it's going to create a breach. 167 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:56,640 It will it'll. Breakdown. 168 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,520 You won't experience intimacy, there will be a lack of clarity, 169 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,280 there will be so much confusion. And So what what I love to tell 170 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,440 people is like, listen, prayer is less about what you're doing 171 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,840 or what you're not doing. It's more about what God wants 172 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,960 to do with you. So when you look at even the 173 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,480 invitation of pray without ceasing, like how in the world 174 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,800 do I even do that? What would it look like to pray 175 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,240 without ceasing? Like, so does that mean I just 176 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,560 pray constantly? I'm in a posture of prayer. 177 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,480 The answer is no, like not the way we think about prayer as a 178 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,480 performative posture. If you dig into the Greek there, 179 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,680 what it actually describes is this posture receptivity. 180 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,920 So you're always in a state where you're open to what God is 181 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,280 doing. And what I have found is that 182 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,440 when people are so focused on what they're doing, what they're 183 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,200 not doing, what happens? They stop seeing the world 184 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,040 around them. They become so self focused, so 185 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,360 self absorbed that they become inhibited where they're not able 186 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,000 to step out, they're not able to think, they're not able to be 187 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,680 bold, they're not able to bridge their life in the lives of other 188 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:00,080 people or a sense of purpose or whatever it may be. 189 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,720 And so when we look at this invitation of prayer without 190 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,080 ceasing this action invitation at constant rest, I call it 191 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,680 deliverance from the frantic inaction that that really is 192 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:13,400 plaguing our world where we're trying to move everywhere, we're 193 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,640 trying to do everything. We're never doing enough. 194 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,480 We never feel like we're enough. And we're caught up in this 195 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,120 anxious response, right? So we, we're scrolling on our 196 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,960 phones constantly. We, we wake up, we get on our 197 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,040 phones within 5 minutes of waking up. 198 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,200 Most people have their phone in their hand, which from a 199 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,440 neurological standpoint is incredibly destructive to how 200 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,440 you engage truth, reality, your sense of self throughout the 201 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,800 rest of the day, how you receive from God and extend God 202 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,840 awareness through your life. And, and I like to say, mom, I 203 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,200 like to say it's really hard to be God conscious when you're 204 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,800 self-conscious. And for most of us, we're trying 205 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,160 to participate in an act prayer that is supposed to increase God 206 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,880 consciousness, but we're doing it from a place that is terribly 207 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,200 self-conscious. And so there's so many things 208 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,760 when it comes to prayer. We've got it backwards. 209 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,240 And the enemy is so good at this. 210 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,800 And the reason why we're frustrated when it comes to 211 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,480 prayer is we're still making ourselves the hero or the 212 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,000 villain of our prayers. And you'll vacillate between the 213 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,280 two. One moment, you'll be the hero. 214 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,680 For most of us, we're rarely the hero. 215 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:20,480 We're normally the villain. I'm not doing it enough. 216 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:22,680 My prayers aren't working because of XY and Z. 217 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,440 I'm a failure. Whatever language is, is typical 218 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,520 for us, but really what God's asking us to do is not be the 219 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,760 hero or the villain. He wants us to be a participant. 220 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,000 He just wants us to take a deep breath and like, watch what I 221 00:12:35,000 --> 00:13:10,920 can do. OK, so somebody's listening to 222 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,400 this and they're like, yes, yes, all true. 223 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,120 I've been there. I've been the villain. 224 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,080 I was a hero for one day and. One day. 225 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,240 Like, well, I remember when your dad and I first married, there 226 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,200 was a teaching, could you not tarry one hour and it was like, 227 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:31,360 I I am responsible for people dying because I fell asleep in 228 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,640 the closet. I mean, it felt like there was 229 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:40,400 so much performance, shame, guilt works. 230 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,920 And yet that shouldn't be how we approach it. 231 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,320 Like, if my husband was like, I've got to tarry an hour with 232 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,880 Lisa today, I wouldn't be like, that's it. 233 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,760 You will never tarry again. Get your tearing out of here. 234 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,320 So, yeah. So I do feel like people, they 235 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,280 they need a place to begin. And I've, I've heard you talk 236 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,240 about you've, you've hit so many things, but one of the things is 237 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:10,440 first thing in the morning when you're first waking up, before 238 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,960 you even get out of bed, what might be a moment? 239 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,760 Yeah, so I've heard this. I've been doing some teachings 240 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,440 on this now for almost almost a couple years now, but I've 241 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,520 started to share through sermons. 242 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,160 I've shared this at a couple churches. 243 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,240 You actually listen to one of the sermons and I'm talking 244 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,440 about what Psalm 5 describes as the mourning sacrifice. 245 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,520 And it's this idea that there is a sensitivity that is unique to 246 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,720 the to the morning. And God has designed us, our 247 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,280 entire embodied experience to be a receptor to his voice, to his 248 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,680 will, to his guiding, to his leading. 249 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,920 It's not just the words that we hear, we think we hear. 250 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,840 And let me ask you like it's just a little pop quiz moment. 251 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:55,840 I'm going to put you on the spot. 252 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:04,080 How many times in the Gospels does God the Father speak words 253 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,000 to or over Jesus the Son in the Gospels? 254 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,880 I feel like I know for sure there was 2, right? 255 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,800 Maybe 3? Yeah, you're right. 3 So it's 256 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,400 baptism. This is my beloved son and whom 257 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,240 I'm well pleased. The Mount of Transfiguration 258 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,480 guys, listen to him, right? And it's in John 12 where Jesus 259 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,080 actually says they're like, was that Thunder? 260 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,640 Or was that you know, it was the voice of an Angel and Jesus 261 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,320 actually he's like, that wasn't for me. 262 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,800 That was for you all three times, all three times. 263 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,400 The Father's voice is actually for the people around Jesus when 264 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,800 you really think about it. And it's not that the Father's 265 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,160 in speaking identity over the Son. 266 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,400 He is and it's beautiful. But Jesus lived in this constant 267 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,640 communion with the Father I love and John 5 it says he only did 268 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,600 what he saw the Father doing and he looks at us and and John's 269 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,600 gospel, Jesus looks at you and me looks at his disciples and 270 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,280 looks at us through with them. And he says it's better for you 271 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,040 that I go away because if I go away, my my spirit, the one who 272 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:04,000 makes these truths internal, the one who invades and fills your 273 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,080 interior life, that very complicated, messy, Dark World 274 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,840 that is you right. Like I think of these gaps in 275 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,880 our beings that we're scared to address. 276 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,360 So we fill them with the pursuit of sex stuff and status. 277 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,800 He's like, I'm going to go in there, my spirit's going to go 278 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,640 in there, and you're going to be able to know me intimately, and 279 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:22,760 I'm going to know you intimately. 280 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,560 This is the promise. This is why it's better for you 281 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,320 that I go away. And so I think for us, when 282 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,640 we're talking about prayer, we have to realize that is the 283 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Father's intent. It's the Greek gods who need us 284 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,880 to pray so that they're strong and wonderful God. 285 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,320 He invites us into prayer so that we can experience a life 286 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,520 and a life in its fullness because otherwise the enemy, the 287 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,080 accuser, dictates and frustrates our life. 288 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,200 So going back to the morning, I just had to share that because I 289 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,160 think a lot of people when they look at the mornings, they're 290 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,800 like, I got to check the box in the morning. 291 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,000 Otherwise, God's not going to be happy with me and it's his. 292 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,400 Mercy is new every morning. There's like an invitation every 293 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,280 single morning. He's not disappointed when we 294 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,440 wake up. That's right. 295 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,520 And and he designed your body. This is so cool. 296 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,640 He designed your body so that you can receive the invitation 297 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,520 first thing in the morning. So you're I'm going to geek out 298 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,240 just for a moment. Just y'all stay, stay with me 299 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,400 just for a moment. So when you wake in the morning, 300 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,359 you're in this, this state of liminality your, your deep mind, 301 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,800 right? So that, that unconscious brain, 302 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,160 that part of your experience that that is below the conscious 303 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:38,000 level, it's very active when you first wake up, this the space of 304 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,560 liminality between your conscious mind or discursive 305 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,960 mind and your deep mind, that's, it's like a thin place in the 306 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,080 morning. So you're more receptive, you're 307 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,560 more open to possibility, to potential to, to novelty, to 308 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,080 receiving things that are beyond yourself, right? 309 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,840 That happens first thing in the in the morning, which is 310 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,760 amazing. God designed us to receive from 311 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,240 him in in Psalm 16 and Psalm 17, God actually talks about how he 312 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,840 instructs our heart at night. He gives his counsel in the 313 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,520 night while we're sleeping, while we're sleeping, y'all not 314 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,840 doing anything. I love what Wendell Berry says. 315 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,360 He's a poet. He says that sleep is the prayer 316 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:16,840 of the body prays, and it's this idea like when you are sleeping, 317 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,760 when you're truly surrendered to sleep, your body is actually 318 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,840 doing something on an unconscious level that is 319 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,720 synthesizing and integrating and making sense of your sense of 320 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,080 self and your life in ways that you cannot do with your 321 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,160 conscious mind. And it's even interpreting 322 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,800 information that you've taken in during the day so that maybe 323 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,760 some nuances you missed during the day. 324 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,720 That's why people say I'm going to sleep on it because they can 325 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,920 go to bed feeling good about something and wake up and say, I 326 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,840 just, I don't know why, but I just feel like something is off. 327 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,120 God actually is whispering and you're actually processing 328 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,320 information. Now. 329 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:54,680 You keep saying a particular word, liminality. 330 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,320 Liminality. Yeah, can you define? 331 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,080 So liminality just means it's like that in between space, so 332 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,240 you're not fully awake, you're not fully asleep. 333 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,120 Kind of the time between time. The time between time and and 334 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:10,000 your body will stay in that state for 5 to 15 minutes if you 335 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,640 allow it. So what I tell people as far as 336 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,320 the morning routine, the morning sacrifice, because the greatest 337 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,560 thing that we can give God, in my opinion, is our attention. 338 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,400 Attention is the currency of our age. 339 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,160 So when we wake in the morning, we refuse to grab our phone, 340 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,520 which represents like an extension of our self, our 341 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,480 ability to control the world, to send that e-mail, to check that 342 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,320 feed, whatever it may be. When we reject that and we say, 343 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,960 actually, God, I want to receive from you our reticulated 344 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,760 activating system, Ras is very aware in that moment actually 345 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,800 sets the tone or determines what we're going to see throughout 346 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,760 the day, what we're going to turn our attention to. 347 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,400 And in those first movements of the day, you have the ability to 348 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,680 go inward and then go outward. The rest of the day you're just 349 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,600 outward. So somebody's listening to all 350 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,000 this and they're like still tripping over some of these 351 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,520 definitions. Tell them what It practically 352 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:09,720 looks like they're waking up. It's 5 AM, 6:00 AM, and normally 353 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,440 they're kind of lay in bed. Maybe I'll go back to sleep, 354 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,120 tell, tell. How did they go in? 355 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:20,640 And then so they can reset and look at the world with wonder. 356 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,440 What does that look like? What is the practice? 357 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,160 I hear the science. It's so simple like so we had to 358 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,520 talk about some of the science and and then you can transition 359 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,800 to alpha state and stay that stay there for almost 60 minutes 360 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,760 where you're more receptive and open. 361 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,560 It's it's absolutely phenomenal. But this it's, it's going to 362 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,800 sound crazy, right? What I'm about ready to say when 363 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,880 you wake up, don't move. Like if you have to go to the 364 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,720 bathroom, obviously, you know, like, come on, like we're real 365 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,000 people. You got to you got to get up and 366 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,960 go to the bathroom eventually. But my point is just stay there. 367 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,080 Just stay in that place. Just be sensitive. 368 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,280 Ask Holy Spirit underneath your breath. 369 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:59,520 What are you showing me today and express gratitude. 370 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,920 Hey, thank you. Thank you God for this day. 371 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,800 Thank you for this opportunity. I. 372 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,800 Wake up alive. I teach AI, teach a breath 373 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,400 prayer. It's just simply I am here. 374 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:14,560 Just pray I am here and it's a it's a surrender to a place like 375 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,920 I'm right here in this place. I'm right here in this time, and 376 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,040 the great I am, God is with me, as if. 377 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,680 We're not. We're not doing it to some. 378 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,520 I talk about. That we're doing it to the God 379 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,560 Most High, to the that I am, that I am. 380 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,600 Yes, very specific. This is it to the universe. 381 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,360 Speak to me Lord, your child is here listening. 382 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:34,680 This 100% very much biblical. It's tied to the word behold, 383 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,160 which is, which is a biblical word that's used a ton that we 384 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,680 don't really talk about. But I do bring this up in the 385 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,760 prayer journal too, in that framework that I am here, breath 386 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:45,840 prayer. So you wake up, you lay there, 387 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,000 you don't get up, you don't move, you don't do those things. 388 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,840 And I and I tell people, get rid of your phone as an alarm clock. 389 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,240 Your phone should not be in your bedroom. 390 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,920 You're you should not and and then people are going to 391 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,160 struggle with what I'm about to say. 392 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,280 You really shouldn't touch your phone for at least 60 minutes 393 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,040 after waking up. I support that. 394 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,560 And I've been doing that for years. 395 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,320 And I'm telling you, it's one of the most transformative 396 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,480 disciplines that I've developed is not touching my phone. 397 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,160 I don't sleep with my phone in my room. 398 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,240 My wife and I, we have an alarm clock that's very gentle that 399 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,720 goes off. Most days. 400 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,320 I'm up a little before the alarm clock, but if I need the alarm 401 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,440 clock, it's there. I just turn it off and I lay 402 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:24,200 there and then I slowly transition out of that state and 403 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,840 then I head out and I have a routine. 404 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,560 I make coffee for Julie in the morning. 405 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,720 I make coffee. I'm in a prayerful state like I 406 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,000 can, I can. I'm not leaving because if you 407 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,800 go into that mode of scrolling, you'll immediately move to a 408 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,920 state called beta state and beta state. 409 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,640 Like your mind is going and it's a little frantic and you're 410 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,520 thinking about everything that you have to do. 411 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,520 And in in this earlier state, if things start to come up, what I 412 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,200 do is I just turn those into prayers. 413 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,800 I turn those into request. If something comes up, my God, 414 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:56,840 thank you for your grace and your wisdom to navigate that 415 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,640 moment. Or if someone comes to mind and 416 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,840 the Holy Spirit's invited me to pray for that person, I just 417 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,840 pray for him, right? So I make the coffee, I get that 418 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,160 situated. We do French press. 419 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,600 So it's, you know, a little bit of process. 420 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,960 But even that, I like the process, I like the smell of it. 421 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,040 The whole thing is therapeutic. And then I sit down on my Bible, 422 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,120 of the book that I'm reading, of a journal, and I'm just 423 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:19,720 sensitive to the Spirit of God. I'm reading, I'm writing 424 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,640 whatever God shows me. It's not performative. 425 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,160 I'm not doing it 'cause I have to. 426 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,080 I'm getting. A. 427 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,760 It's. Not a quiz. 428 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,360 No one's checking the number of chapters I read that day, but 429 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:34,120 for me, I know if I show up like that in the morning, my 430 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:37,800 consciousness for the rest of the day, I will see the 431 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,000 largeness of my world. I will see the goodness of the 432 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,160 people in my life. I will see the purpose in my 433 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,160 work. I will see the struggles ahead. 434 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,280 I will see them all differently. If I do this in the morning, how 435 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,840 I engage the rest of my day is different. 436 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,960 And David, he says that in Psalm 5, he says in the morning, I 437 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,200 prepare a sacrifice for you, which is our attention. 438 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,160 And he says, and I watch, it's like I watch differently. 439 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,960 I see the day different. And Mom, we don't see the world 440 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,800 as it is. We see the world as we are. 441 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,800 Most of us think we see the world as it is. 442 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,960 But the reality is we see the world as we are. 443 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,160 And that's actually a good thing because who we are is actually 444 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,720 pretty dynamic. Even the brain, what we've 445 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,800 learned from neuroscience, the rewiring of your brain, you can 446 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,880 make actually anatomical changes to your brain based on how you 447 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,800 focus your thoughts because thoughts turn into things. 448 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,720 And so that idea of starting our day with that practice, it leads 449 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,200 to prayerfulness throughout the day. 450 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,120 It just does naturally a greater sense of connectivity to God and 451 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:43,040 what God is doing. Because you've set a pattern. 452 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,480 Yes, and I would just say to moms out there like maybe 453 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,400 you're, you're nursing like one of the most beautiful things to 454 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,800 do. And, and my wife and I, we've 455 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,720 had conversation about this and you know, our youngest is 9. 456 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,840 So it's been a while since she nursed, but she would feel this 457 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,240 need to do something when she was nursing like, oh, I need to 458 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,560 be doing something. This isn't necessarily 459 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,000 productive or I could be multitasking. 460 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,920 And she got to the place later on with her kids where she 461 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,480 realized, Oh my goodness, this is such a holy moment of prayer 462 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,720 and connectivity to God and with the child. 463 00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,600 And yet so many, you know, it's like, oh, you got that extra 464 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,040 hand scrolling on my phone. I'm doing messages, I'm doing 465 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,560 whatever. And there's just this lie. 466 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,400 It's this lie that you have to perform, that you have to do 467 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,520 that you have to check the boxes that you're not doing enough. 468 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,920 And you talk about this like, mother, I've heard you say it's 469 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,680 a mama's out there. You're like mama's, you're going 470 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,080 to get to the end of the day and you're going to realize you 471 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,280 didn't get through the whole list. 472 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,680 That doesn't mean you're not enough. 473 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,160 Right. And, and Mamas do keep a list of 474 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,680 all the things they don't do enough of. 475 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,880 And yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's a rough thing. 476 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,920 You know, one of the things that I I love so much is that you've 477 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,600 made this really easy. Thanks, mom. 478 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,960 No, it you you talk about reflect, recenter, rest, 479 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:00,720 receive, respond and it's just super easy. 480 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,440 Each day is just like 2. And I think sometimes like I 481 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,160 love that you have reflect, recenter and then rest. 482 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,000 It's I love that you didn't put rest at the end of the day, but 483 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,880 you you put a pause. You put a say law like, OK, 484 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,840 pause and be in wonder. And I love how you created a 485 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,120 rhythm that people could actually follow. 486 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:31,360 And one of one of the greatest moments for me was, you know, I 487 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,600 had your kids spend the night and. 488 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:39,320 Talk about the recent time. Yeah, and, and Asher misplaced 489 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,200 his prayer journal and he was frantic and he came over to my 490 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,360 house and we looked all around and we couldn't find it. 491 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,720 We couldn't find it. And, you know, he was just like, 492 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,960 I can't find my journal. And then, you know, I looked 493 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:58,160 some more and then literally, literally, I went up and I just 494 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,440 prayed. I said, God, my grandson is 495 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,280 looking for his prayer journal where you got to help me with 496 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,320 this one. And and it's not just any, it's 497 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,920 something his father wrote and he's a teenager, which means, 498 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,160 which means sometimes they don't even like their parents. 499 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,880 So yeah, so I was like, where is it? 500 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,560 And I really sense the Holy Spirit say, look over there. 501 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,640 And and I don't know whether John picked it up and put it 502 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,520 somewhere, but I would never have put it there and it was 503 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,600 underneath another book. And so the Holy Spirit wants to 504 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,040 show you things and if, but we have to have a receptivity. 505 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,800 And I, what I'm hearing from you is when you're thinking, I'm not 506 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,480 enough, I'm not doing enough. This is, you know, this isn't 507 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,960 good enough. You're not in a receiving 508 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,480 position at all. And I just remember I was like 509 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,160 Asher, I found it and he came right over and got it. 510 00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:52,240 And he was so excited. Which if, if I, you know, I mean 511 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,800 that just says the world to me and I and, and what I love is 512 00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:04,240 you are training your family to hear the voice of God as young 513 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,920 men and young women. So I know Sophie, Sophie had 514 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,000 one, has one too, but she didn't, she didn't leave hers 515 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,440 behind, but. She's very responsible. 516 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,320 She is very responsible, yes. She has all of it in order. 517 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,440 Yeah. Sophie. 518 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,240 Sophie is almost like a first born. 519 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,880 Yeah. She is and I think with them 520 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,600 being 17 months apart with the male female dynamic I feel like 521 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,600 they both have first born qualities. 100%, yeah. 522 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,200 But mom, I love that you call that out because for me, I 523 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:38,880 wanted it to be a, a simple yes. That then leads to a much bigger 524 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,840 yes than you realize you were capable of. 525 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,920 So it starts really simple. And I feel like as people get 526 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,040 into it, you're going to realize, oh wow, this, this 527 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,200 practice, we can use the word discipline, but this practice. 528 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,480 A practice is something you do without thinking, so that's 529 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,200 good. Discipline is what helps us 530 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,280 develop a practice, but practice becomes a habit. 531 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:09,600 Yeah, this, this, this practice of reflect, rest, reflect, 532 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,160 recenter, rest, receive, respond the way that I view this. 533 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,760 And each day has a different reflect, but then the rest of 534 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,200 the components are the same. The reflect is supposed to 535 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,400 challenge our idea of God, our idea of prayer. 536 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:27,000 So we go into the recenter from a fresh place of surrender like, 537 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,080 oh, because all of us, we, we start to believe these things 538 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:36,240 about God that I would say cast God in a low view, like Foster 539 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,560 low view of God. And so we should all be 540 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,000 challenged by God's holiness, his otherness. 541 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,320 When we come to him. We should be amazed by who he is 542 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,880 and prayer is that place of intimate connection with him. 543 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,440 So I think there should always be a sense of wonder and awe and 544 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,080 humility and excitement that comes with with a life of 545 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,320 prayer. And so I like to bring people 546 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,480 into that. But then recenter like you are, 547 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,880 you are not God. You don't have to be God. 548 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,280 God is an. Expected pressure. 549 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,720 Pressure is off like. You're not and and and because 550 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,920 you're. Wondering You're not in control 551 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,640 and you're not God. We. 552 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,200 All know that, but it's it's crazy how good the accuser is of 553 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:20,240 convincing us that we are someone that we're not the enemy 554 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:26,400 is so good at saying since you're someone or shouldn't you 555 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,560 be someone else? You should do something or be 556 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,920 something. He's so good at going after what 557 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,480 we're doing, what we're not doing by twisting and perverting 558 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,200 our sense of identity like he's he's the master at that. 559 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,840 And it's just a chance for us every day to engage with God in 560 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,720 a way that silences the voice of the accuser. 561 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,960 I like to say that we struggle to hear the voice of God, the 562 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,320 tone and tenor of God, because we look for his voice and the 563 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,520 voice of the accuser. We look for God to sound like 564 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,600 that accusative, shame oriented, performative voice. 565 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,000 That is the accuser. That is the accuser. 566 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,600 That's how he communicates. That's how he convinces you 567 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,280 you're not enough or you need to do XY or Z. 568 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,880 And so the Spirit of God, he coaxes us, he woos us, and he 569 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,200 shapes his voice in US and through us more than he shouts 570 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,760 the words to us, right? And I want people to understand 571 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,040 like how God speaks to them uniquely. 572 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,800 And I believe this experience will help them enter into that 573 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,360 space of connection. Well, I don't think there's been 574 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,040 a more crucial time to be able to hear and rightly divide the 575 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,200 voice of God versus the voice of the accuser. 576 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,360 I mean, we have so much accusation out there on both 577 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,760 sides of every narrative. And God is not in the realm of 578 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,040 compromise. He's in a realm of Kingdom and 579 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,840 he always calls us higher. And I, and I feel like right now 580 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,760 it is so much easier to side with either of the sides. 581 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,800 But like, I remember that a word that was given to your dad and I 582 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,640 was, I'm going to call you to stand in the middle and declare 583 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,920 truth. And you're going to be shot at 584 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,960 from both sides. And so when you actually, 585 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,160 unfortunately, I've experienced it, but, but, but God will 586 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,880 discipline us to get us to bring forth more fruit. 587 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,160 He'll prune us to bring more fruit. 588 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,240 He will, he will guide us. He will lead us, but he will not 589 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,080 force, he will not manipulate, He will not shame. 590 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,520 Like even when I've come to God and felt really bad about my own 591 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,600 behaviour in a situation and come to him and be like, I can't 592 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,520 believe I did that. I can't believe I said that. 593 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,400 I can't. Why do I keep doing this? 594 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,920 Whatever I've never heard him say, why do you keep doing this? 595 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,320 I've talked to you about this before. 596 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,320 You just I've never heard him partner with the problem. 597 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,840 I've heard him speak, I believe you want to change and I forgive 598 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,280 you. I've never heard him say you're 599 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,600 just going to do this again next week. 600 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:12,480 I mean, he's never gone to the place of defeat with me, but he 601 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,240 has gone to this place of rightly dividing where, you 602 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,200 know, like and even. It's painful. 603 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,040 It is painful like Lisa, you're not right. 604 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,240 This is that was not right. That was and and I think we live 605 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,280 in a culture that is so self self reflective that they're not 606 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,960 God reflective. Yes, it goes back to that God 607 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,800 consciousness for self consciousness too. 608 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,520 Because it's the same idea. I know I, I mean, and, and I'll 609 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,040 hear so many people say things like, I just don't know what it 610 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,160 is. I just maybe if I just look at 611 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:49,120 myself a little bit longer or go and I'm like, OK, when you just 612 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,560 study self, you are limited to self. 613 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,960 But when you begin to meditate on God, when you begin to think 614 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,960 your ways are higher than my ways, your thoughts are higher 615 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:01,840 than my thoughts, I'm going to think your thoughts, which is 616 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,080 your word. I'm going to stop looking at my 617 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,719 past and projecting into my future, but I'm going to start 618 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,920 looking into your word. I mean, I love how James talks 619 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,000 about how the word of God is a mirror. 620 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,600 It's a mirror and we don't want to go away and forget. 621 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,520 Exactly that we've been cleansed. 622 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,400 We want that mirror to be the reflection of that as word 623 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,400 begins to facet our life and, and, and we don't have to have, 624 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:36,679 we don't have to have a constant reframing of what we're doing 625 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:38,960 wrong. We need to have the reframing of 626 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,520 the one who makes everything right. 627 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,440 Yeah, no, as you're as you're sharing that, I think about what 628 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,080 you just shared from James 1, he describes as the law of liberty 629 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:49,320 you. Persevere not into the law of 630 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,120 liberty. And it's this, it's this place 631 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:54,800 of, of freedom. And mom, as you were sharing 632 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,280 this, I'm thinking about something that God has shown me 633 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,360 and it's really wrecked me when when we come to God in in 634 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,600 prayer, we pray to a God that we believe can do anything at any 635 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,120 time with anyone, right? Like that's the idea of God's 636 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,760 Omni omnipotence or he's all powerful, right? 637 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,000 But as I've really meditated on that and even reading Hebrews 638 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,440 and Hebrews fiber talks about Jesus, though he was a son, he 639 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,640 learned obedience through his process, which was painful. 640 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,760 This idea that God doesn't want robots. 641 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,400 He wants sons and daughters. He doesn't want people who can 642 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,120 just like check the boxes. He wants people who are deeply 643 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,080 formed. And the reality is God can do 644 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,680 anything at any time with anyone, but he's chosen to make 645 00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:46,200 the forming of sons and daughters. 646 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,640 He's chosen to make that his decision or his that process of 647 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,120 forming. He's made that his decision. 648 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,400 And that requires time. You know, this is a parent. 649 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,080 You don't just form a son or a daughter overnight. 650 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,040 It's not getting the right answer to the test. 651 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,440 That is a process of intimate discipleship, walking together, 652 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,440 navigating failures and successes. 653 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,080 And and that's how God engages with us when it comes to prayer 654 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,840 in the formative power of prayer. 655 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,560 And, and I hope people hear that and what we're talking about 656 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,160 today, because God at the first attribute of love in First 657 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,000 Corinthians 13 is patience. Don't you think God embodies 658 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,800 that? Certainly has with. 659 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,360 Me. I mean, I, I feel, I feel like 660 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,960 he's been very generous toward me when it, when it comes to 661 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,040 patience and the enemy of our souls. 662 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,200 He just, he wants to get us out of the game like he wants us to 663 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,040 stop playing. And God's like, Hey, just come 664 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,520 back and watch what I do. You were saying you become who 665 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,800 you behold that idea. Hey, let let's get, let's get 666 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,240 the attention off what you're not doing and let's allow your 667 00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:58,880 consciousness when it comes to prayer, let's make it less about 668 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,920 you and more about what I want to do with you and through you. 669 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,200 Can you surrender your idea of what is possible? 670 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,560 That's what I'm asking for today. 671 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,720 Can you surrender it? I love what you're saying. 672 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:13,080 Now there might be people out there that would say help me 673 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,280 understand the difference between this and new age 674 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,760 manifesting meditation. Yeah, you want me to speak to? 675 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,880 That I want you to speak to it. Yeah. 676 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,720 So. So, OK, so generally I would say 677 00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:30,280 we've done a really poor job embracing the robustness of 678 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,720 prayer. So different camps have come in 679 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,760 and they've stolen what I would say should be a part of the life 680 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,680 of prayer, but we haven't embraced it and brought it to 681 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,200 the central expression of prayer. 682 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,640 So I would say things like manifesting mom, that's a 683 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,080 manipulation of the reticulated activating system. 684 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,760 I like. So manifesting, I'm just saying 685 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,160 manifesting is is this idea of like I'm going to call things 686 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:01,880 into being that I want to be reality in my life and and the 687 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,600 truth is God and. We're the center. 688 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:05,960 And we're, and I was going to say that's the difference. 689 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,440 The difference is God wants us to participate with him, to seek 690 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,840 out his will, to be sensitive to what the Spirit of God is doing. 691 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,800 I love what Jesus says in Luke 11. 692 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,160 He says how much more will the Father give his very nature to 693 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,560 those who ask. So when we're asking and we're 694 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,440 participating with the nature of God, we should have an authority 695 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,120 to call those things not as they are, but as they should be, but 696 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,920 not with ourselves in the center of the universe, but rather with 697 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,360 a sensitivity to what God's doing. 698 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,560 When it comes to meditation, mom, meditation, cogitation, 699 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,880 whatever words you want to use for it, that is. 700 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,160 That is a practice from Scripture, right? 701 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,520 We meditate on the Word, we meditate on the goodness of God, 702 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:48,200 we meditate on the wonder of creation because the owner of 703 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,000 the Creator is revealed. Isaac meditating out in the 704 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,840 field and he looks up and hit the promises. 705 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,720 Wife is coming. I mean, there's so many 706 00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:58,960 instances where meditation. The difference is, is the one is 707 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,600 like emptying myself for the sake of myself, the other is 708 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,560 emptying myself so that I can receive more of the reality of 709 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,840 God, right and more of who God says I am. 710 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,920 And Jesus invites us everyday in Luke 9 to deny ourselves, take 711 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,920 up our cross, follow him daily. Paul says in Luke and 1st 712 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,760 Corinthians 15 he says to die daily. 713 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,120 That idea is laying down our concept of our self, the world, 714 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,960 how this all works, and saying God, I want your reality. 715 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,440 I want what you say to be true. I want that to be true in my 716 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,640 life. That place of meditation is that 717 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,800 emptying of oneself to receive something beyond ourselves. 718 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,160 I love that. OK, I'm going to ask you to do 719 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,920 this. I know there's people and 720 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,240 they've you've said so much and you've done it so beautifully. 721 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:44,200 I'm so no. I'm so proud of you, Addison. 722 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,600 I'm I love this. But I want you to close this 723 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,680 conversation about prayer with a prayer. 724 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,960 I want you to to pray to the people because I believe that 725 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,440 there is no distance in prayer. And I believe that the people 726 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,000 that are listening, they, they not only need to start doing, 727 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,560 but this is an opportunity for them to receive. 728 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:09,680 So pray for them. Absolutely. 729 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:12,960 If you're out there right now and you're listening to this, I 730 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,920 just want to say as we go into this time, that prayer, I know 731 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,040 it's a, a place of pain for so many people and disappointment, 732 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,480 shame. Maybe you prayed something 733 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,440 before and you didn't see God move in the way that you thought 734 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,960 he would move. I, I, I want you to know that 735 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,840 God wants to meet you in that pain. 736 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,240 And God has a way of becoming more real to us as we get real 737 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,040 with him. So as we enter this moment, I 738 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,800 just want to invite you just quiet yourself real quickly. 739 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,960 Take a deep breath and allow whatever is forming in your mind 740 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,520 that's causing resistance to what I'm about to pray. 741 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,600 Surrender that say God, I, I give that to you. 742 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:58,160 Father, I, I thank you that you created us for communion with 743 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,640 you. You designed every part of us to 744 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:08,200 be a receptor of your grace, of your wisdom, so that we could 745 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,480 understand what it means to to steward this good world that you 746 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,800 have given to us, what it means to steward it well. 747 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,840 God, I thank you that you go with us, that you go before us. 748 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,800 God, I thank you that as we look back, we start to realize that 749 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,960 you've been with us all along, that we are in fact living in an 750 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,000 answered prayer. And God, I speak against that 751 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,480 spirit of condemnation, the shame that that twist and 752 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,840 distorts the nature of God and the nature of prayer. 753 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:43,640 I pray, God, that there would be a holy discontentment with with 754 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:48,680 this false prayer, with this, with this pseudo religious 755 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,160 experience. God, I pray that we would 756 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,680 encounter You in the reality of who you are and that we would 757 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,640 experience Your presence in those parts of our lives that we 758 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,080 didn't realize You could invade. I I thank You for the promise in 759 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,080 Your word in Hebrews 4 that we can approach Your throne with 760 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,320 boldness to receive mercy and grace to help in our time of 761 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,160 need. And God, I ask for greater mercy 762 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,520 and grace for every single person who is praying right now 763 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,280 with me. God, I pray that You would 764 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,600 cleanse their consciousness. You say in Your Word that that 765 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,000 the blood of bulls and goats is not capable of cleansing the 766 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,760 consciousness of the worship for God. 767 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,280 I pray that you would cleanse their consciousness, 768 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,160 consciousness that they would understand what it is to draw 769 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,480 near to you and that you would draw near to them. 770 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,240 That you wouldn't meet them in those daily moments, that you 771 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:38,360 would surprise them at the times when you meet them as they, as 772 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,200 they surrender their attention in the morning. 773 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,280 God, I pray that you would meet them in ways that direct their, 774 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,720 their days, God, to open their eyes to the goodness and 775 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,240 faithfulness that is with them that has gone before them. 776 00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:52,840 And as they encounter, as James says, trials of various kinds. 777 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,240 God, I pray that they would be full of confidence that they can 778 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,120 ask for wisdom, that they can ask for, for grace, knowing that 779 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,720 you give it liberally. And God, I pray that they would 780 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:03,880 see that you are making them complete and perfect, that they 781 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,480 would lack nothing for their family, for their marriage, for 782 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,560 their community, for their church, for their friends. 783 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,280 God but they wouldn't do that from a place of having to prove 784 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,640 something, but rather from that realization, from that 785 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,160 revelation that you've called them to become something because 786 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,080 you are giving something through them. 787 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,880 God, I pray that they would rest in your goodness and your 788 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,320 faithfulness, that you are the one who completes the good work 789 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,960 and you are the one who finishes it. 790 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,640 In Jesus name we pray. Amen. 791 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,960 Amen, Amen. Well, listen, you can you can 792 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,760 hear Addison's passion for prayer and I believe this is a 793 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,640 gift to the body of Christ. Words with God, prayer general 794 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,960 40 days. And you're going to want to 795 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,920 actually just restart it again when you're done. 40 days of 796 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,520 getting real with God. You guys, you're not fooling 797 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,560 anybody. God knows you're uncomfortable, 798 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,920 comfortable, God knows you feel like a failure, but he doesn't 799 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,600 want you to continue to feel that way. 800 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,920 And I believe this is a tool that is going to reset. 801 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,480 And we're going to put a link in the notes. 802 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,240 We're going to put all your information. 803 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,880 Addison, thank you so much. Thanks for joining me. 804 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,720 I'm so proud of you. I love you so much. 805 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:10,640 Oh my gosh, being with my son, He talks about prayer. 806 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,800 I don't. I don't know that it gets any 807 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,320 better than this. Love you, love you.