1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,800 God wants to speak to you more than you even want to hear from 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,440 Him. There is a reason why dreams are 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,040 so important. But I do believe nightmares are 4 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:15,240 very different than dreams. I had a reoccurring nightmare of 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,200 three dead men following me. I was I was afraid to go to 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:24,480 sleep and I found out that I had three generations of agreement 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,240 with darkness. The moment I got born again, I 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,200 said that's it. I just went through and prayed. 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,200 That dream that felt like it was demonic actually was the 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,920 discerning of what I was wrestling in the spirit. 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,160 I want to ask the question that I'm sure many people are 12 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:42,160 thinking right now. How do you know when a dream is 13 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:43,560 from God or not? Yeah. 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:51,240 So first of all, welcome to the Fight for Female podcast. 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,640 I'm Lisa Bevere and I am joined by my daughter in love, 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,960 Christian Bevere, and a granddaughter. 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,520 Yes, making her presence known. Yes, yeah, and she'll be here 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,080 soon. Today we're talking about 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,800 something super interesting, maybe even controversial, but 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,120 something I feel like it's so incredibly necessary to the days 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,880 and the times that we're in right now. 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,400 We're going to be talking about dreams. 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:23,000 Does God still speak to us in dreams? 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,560 You know, Christian, we want to always emphasize the word of 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,360 God. But there is a reason why dreams 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,920 are so important. First of all, I believe that God 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:41,000 wants us to know not just about him, but know that He is 28 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,440 intimately connected to His children. 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:49,040 There's something so beautiful in in our time period of sleep, 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,720 even in Zephaniah. I mean, we, we just see this God 31 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,040 who sings over us, this God who watches over us, this God who 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:02,160 speaks too much in the night, watches, he speaks peace, He 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,440 gives his beloved sleep, It says. 34 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,520 So I really believe that God wants to speak individually, to 35 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,880 express love, his direction, his provision. 36 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,080 And I also believe that God wants to speak to his children, 37 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,000 to actually just say in your dreams, yeah, I'm talking to 38 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,240 you. I'm not just talking about you 39 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,920 in the Scripture. I'm speaking to you personally 40 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:28,800 as my son and as my daughter. That's good. 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,080 So I'm going to I'm going to open up with the scripture 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,960 first. It's from Job chapter 33, verses 43 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,160 14 through 16. I always love going to the book 44 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,080 of Job. I'm like, let's just bust it 45 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,280 out. It says, for God speaks again 46 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:46,520 and again, though people do not recognize it. 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:52,000 He speaks in dreams, in visions of the night, when deep sleep 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,840 falls on people as they lie in their beds. 49 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:01,960 He whispers in their ears and terrifies them with warnings. 50 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,840 I love that that's the ending. Terrifies. 51 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Terrifies like when you're asleep. 52 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Wait, be afraid anyway. But, but Christian, does God 53 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,840 speak to us in dreams? What do you think? 54 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,880 Has God ever spoken to you through a dream? 55 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,520 He has. I mean, there's. 56 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,120 Because I know he has. There's been some like chocolate 57 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,800 induced dreams at night where I was like, was that God? 58 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,440 No, OK, that was me. But I mean this, that verse to 59 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,200 me does not have an expiration date on it. 60 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:32,280 So to me, I'm thinking, OK, well, God speaks through dreams. 61 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,040 He's not just going to stop one day, but. 62 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,200 Now there are people that think that though. 63 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,040 They think the moment the Bible got printed, God was like, thank 64 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,000 you. I don't have to say anything 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,040 else. I don't have to talk through 66 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,640 dreams. I don't talk through visions. 67 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,440 I don't need to talk to people through other people as far as 68 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,640 prophetically. So there are people that really 69 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:58,280 question whether God still speaks outside of the Scripture. 70 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,680 And I want to say on the very front end, I do not believe that 71 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,840 God will ever say anything contrary to the Scripture. 72 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:12,120 But if you have a dream that is in alignment with what God says 73 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,160 in the Scripture, that I think you don't live by the dream, but 74 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,600 you take that dream, you submit it to Scripture. 75 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,440 So. Well, I know this is important 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,960 because a large premise of the fight for female, yes, came from 77 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,200 a dream that you had. And what I think some people 78 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,480 want to know before we even dive into like how good speaks and 79 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,440 all these things is well, does God give dreams to everyone? 80 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Does do only a few people get these dreams? 81 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,000 Like how do I begin to hear God in that way? 82 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,560 To me when I hear people think or ask that question of does God 83 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,600 still speak? They're like, well, he doesn't 84 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,040 give me dreams, right? So what would you say to that 85 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,600 person? You know, and, and that's a 86 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,160 great question, you know, so out there, I do believe that God 87 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,040 wants to speak to you more than you even want to hear from him. 88 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,760 And I think it's it's something my husband used to always say, 89 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,520 like God is always speaking. It's like a radio station. 90 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:09,200 He is always broadcasting and we have to be in tune with the 91 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,240 Spirit to hear what he is saying. 92 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,240 So sometimes God speaks to us through the word. 93 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,720 Sometimes God speaks to us through a minister. 94 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,120 Sometimes God speaks to us through a spouse, through a 95 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,680 friend, even through a child. But I do believe that God wants 96 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:28,000 to speak to his people more through dreams and visions. 97 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,920 And I feel like we are having constant inundation with 98 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:37,280 distraction and it's shutting down people's ability to receive 99 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,400 dreams, or can I say night visions. 100 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,760 I feel like there's so many people are burying their gift of 101 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,920 God, their sensitivity to the Holy Spirit with other things 102 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,520 that they've lost a tenderness. And you know, Christian, as soon 103 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:58,160 as I became a Christian, I began to pray that God would speak to 104 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,240 me in the night watches. So I had been a child that had 105 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,080 so many nightmares growing up that I said, all right, I, I 106 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,960 don't want, I don't want my night to be filled with images 107 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:16,040 of confusion and terror. I want God to be sacred in every 108 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,320 space of my life. So I would pray before I would 109 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,680 go to bed and have you say, Heavenly Father, you have full 110 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,840 permission to speak to me in the night watches. 111 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,840 Now giving it full permission doesn't mean every single night 112 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,040 I would have a dream that even remember that it does mean that 113 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,840 he had permission. And so I had created a 114 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:37,720 sensitivity. And then if people are like, 115 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,640 well, I'm I'm not sure if God still speaks. 116 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,360 We know we did it in the Old Testament, but does he still do 117 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,240 it in the New Testament? And I'm so glad you asked that 118 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:53,480 because I have a scripture. We look at Acts 217, it says, 119 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,760 and in the last days it shall be. 120 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,320 God declares that I will pour out my spirit on all flesh. 121 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,680 So in the last days God's going to pour out his spirit on all 122 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,920 flesh. And he says your sons and your 123 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,760 daughters shall prophecy, your young men shall see visions, 124 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,840 your old men shall dream dreams. Even on my male servants and 125 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,720 female servants in those days, I will pour my spirit and they 126 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,000 shall prophecy. And we know to prophecy means 127 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,280 you're speaking under divine inspiration. 128 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,720 So to prophecy means to speak the word of God. 129 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:37,120 But that is an echo of an Old Testament scripture of Joel 130 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,080 chapter 2, verses 28 through 29. It says there was a promise that 131 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:46,000 was prophesied and it was beginning to be fulfilled in 132 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,320 Acts 217 because we're still in the last days, OK. 133 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,280 But in Joel 220 it says the Laurel part is Spirit, and it 134 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,240 shall come to pass afterwards. And we know that afterwards is 135 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,200 when Jesus, he breaks down all the barriers and there's a 136 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,560 reconciliation where God can pour out His Spirit on all 137 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,360 flesh. Why were there more dreams in 138 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,600 the Old Testament? Why are we not seeing that in 139 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,160 present day? What happened? 140 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,760 OK, a couple things. First of all, in the Old 141 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,640 Testament, they didn't have televisions, they didn't have 142 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,080 music. They didn't have constant 143 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,560 information coming their way, constant noise. 144 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,480 They didn't have the ability to disconnect with headphones. 145 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,039 They didn't have the ability to look at a world in their hands 146 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:40,960 with an iPhone and just messaging being sent to you that 147 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,080 maybe has nothing to do with God's plan for your life. 148 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,520 I mean, like, you know, we can, we can edit our lives. 149 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,680 We can make sure we're, we're protecting what comes in. 150 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:53,840 But we, we would be naive to think that everything that's 151 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,320 coming in our direction is something that God wants us to 152 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,600 weigh heavily. So that inundation is dulling 153 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,880 people's senses. And, and I would say, I would 154 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,000 say like we used to the boys didn't like this. 155 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,720 But John and I, we would do family fast and we would tell 156 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,680 our kids no television, no family night movie, no 157 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:20,840 television. We would tell our kids no music, 158 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,240 but worship music. And they'd be like, not this 159 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,320 again. We would say for a month, for a 160 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:32,520 month we would, we would say we have lost our edge. 161 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:38,480 We have lost our sensitivity. We are not kind to one another. 162 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:43,280 There are songs going on in my mind that I do not want in my 163 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,840 mind, but I've allowed them to have preeminence. 164 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,840 Maybe I went to a store or a restaurant. 165 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,880 Maybe I didn't even turn on the song. 166 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,480 And I would say I need to sanctify myself. 167 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,880 I need to separate myself. And it's been so interesting. 168 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:04,280 When you fast, when you fast, you actually increase your 169 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,960 sensitivity to the things of the spirit. 170 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,240 But it takes a while. It takes at first you're like, 171 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,400 no, wait, it it'd be OK if I just watched one episode of 172 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,280 maybe this the chosen. I could just do the chosen. 173 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,040 The chosen is Christian or, or, you know, whatever I mean. 174 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,280 But the truth is you're observing. 175 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,520 You're not leaning in, you're not listening, you're not really 176 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,400 participating. You're spectating. 177 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:35,160 And too many people in the spirit spectate rather than 178 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:39,120 participate. So again, I think people need to 179 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:44,840 fast to hear. They need to have silence to 180 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,480 hear again. And if I, if I can separate 181 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,440 myself where I'm not putting a bunch of nonsense into my brain 182 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,600 all day, my brain doesn't have to wade through a swamp to get 183 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,520 through the information that I should have been sensitive to. 184 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,840 But I lost my sensitivity because I was distracted or I 185 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,440 was self focused and not other focused and are not Holy Spirit 186 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,960 focused. And so I feel like that's 187 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:15,200 really, really key right now, especially we're going into, 188 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,760 we're going into an election where everything is going to be 189 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:28,560 so divisive, so dishonouring. So, you know, like, did you hear 190 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:31,520 this? That we're going to have to step 191 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:37,160 back and develop discernment. And discernment requires a 192 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,600 sensitivity and sensitivity and discernment and even dreams. 193 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,440 And again, I feel like we can invite God, but we also need to 194 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,280 create an environment for those dreams to happen. 195 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,560 It'd be like me praying and say, God give me a garden. 196 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:52,240 He's like, go deal with your soil. 197 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,360 Go plant some seeds, make sure you water it, make sure you weed 198 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,400 it. And so again, life in the spirit 199 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,120 is very much like a garden. Hey friends, I am so excited to 200 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,600 share with you about my newest book. 201 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,520 It is called the fight for female Reclaiming our Divine 202 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Identity. I have never had to wrestle so 203 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:17,160 hard to write a book. It is available for pre-order 204 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,720 right now and then it will be available everywhere on 205 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,360 September 3rd. I want to see you reserve your 206 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,480 copy. I believe that this book will 207 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,080 equip you to have the conversations that we are going 208 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,640 to be needing to have in the near future. 209 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,560 I believe that women are being sexualized and silenced and I am 210 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:40,000 not OK with that and I know you aren't either. 211 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,960 So grab your copy today. Now, interestingly enough, God 212 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,320 can actually pour out His Spirit on people who are not even 213 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,640 saved. I've heard that. 214 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,400 That's fascinating to me. I mean, if he says all flesh, 215 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,400 yeah. I mean, I, I remember reading a 216 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:00,760 story about when Alexander the Great was conquering the world. 217 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:06,280 He had said that he was going to invade Jerusalem, and he had a 218 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,400 dream. And in his dream he saw the 219 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,080 priest coming out in their full robes, their full temple 220 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,640 garments, and with a Urim and thummim, the whole breastplate, 221 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,080 and the high priest coming out to meet him. 222 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,080 And in his dream the priest said, do not destroy the temple. 223 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:30,280 And then the priest had a dream. And in that dream God spoke to 224 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,000 the priest and said, go out and meet Alexander the Great on the 225 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,320 road when he comes in to destroy, to sack Jerusalem. 226 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,200 And he did not, you know, he, they met him and he said, God 227 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,360 spoke to me in a dream. And so we saw God. 228 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,920 We look at different scriptures. We have Nebuchadnezzar has a 229 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,960 dream. We see Pharaoh has a dream. 230 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,720 Pharaoh has this dream where he has seven, you know, full 231 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:03,520 prosperous cattle eaten up by frail, starving cattle, then the 232 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,360 full ears of corn consumed by the stricken ears of corn. 233 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:11,920 And he'd, he can't figure out, he calls all of his wise people 234 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,760 together and nobody can interpret it. 235 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:21,720 But two years earlier, two years, Joseph had interpreted a 236 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,680 dream for a Baker and the cup bearer and both of the men, 237 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,760 exactly what Joseph said happened to the men. 238 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,960 And what God did was he used Joseph to not only preserve 239 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,400 Egypt, but to preserve the children of Jacob because they 240 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:45,280 came to Joseph for grain. And what began as a dream that 241 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,040 Joseph shared with his brothers and it made him furious. 242 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,560 They said they just hated him more. 243 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,080 What got him? Got him into trouble. 244 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,600 Yeah. And what he hate. 245 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,480 You know what? He shared the dream with his 246 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,400 father and he said, well, your mother and I are going to bow 247 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,640 down to you too, he said. But Jacob hid it in his heart. 248 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,160 And here's the thing. When the brothers show up 249 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,440 starving, it said that Joseph remembered the dream. 250 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,960 So I think sometimes we don't even have an interpretation of 251 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,920 the dreams that God even gives us until something happens where 252 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,560 we're like, wait a minute, I remember the dream. 253 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,640 I remember the dream. And so God wants to speak to you 254 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,520 because God wants to be involved in your life. 255 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,680 He, he wants every area of your life. 256 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,840 He wants to invade it with his word, with his spirit, with his 257 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:42,360 presence, and he wants to develop a sensitivity in you so 258 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,120 that you know that you're hearing from him. 259 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,880 There is something that's so exciting when you find it, your 260 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,360 life's not accidental that the things that you've dreamed. 261 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,400 Like I imagine when Joseph remembered the dream, he was 262 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,520 like, Oh my gosh. And we know the whole looking 263 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,480 back, he said you meant it for evil, but God meant it for good. 264 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,880 So there are things that are warnings. 265 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,120 There are dreams that are directional. 266 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:10,160 Paul saw a Macedonian man, it said in the book of Acts in a 267 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,600 night vision. He knew it wasn't a normal 268 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,560 dreams. And the man invited him to come 269 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,680 and preach the gospel in Macedonia. 270 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,280 And what happens to Paul? He goes, he's like, OK, I'm I'm, 271 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,080 I'm ready, I'm going. And what happens? 272 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,600 He gets thrown in jail the first day. 273 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,480 So just because God gives you a dream doesn't mean it's going to 274 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,400 be easy. It does mean that he's giving 275 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,960 you a direction. And at the end of the day, when 276 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,440 God gives us this clear direction, we need to operate in 277 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,680 obedience. You know, Christian, I, I think 278 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,360 sometimes people have had dreams that are great dreams. 279 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,880 And then like most of us, even when we were children, maybe 280 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,720 there were nightmares. And nightmares are very 281 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,720 different than dreams. Nightmares is when you wake up 282 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,640 and you're just glad it's not real. 283 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,720 And I had a reoccurring nightmare. 284 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,359 I think we talked about this in a previous episode of Three Dead 285 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,319 men following me. And it was, oh, I've never 286 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,880 talked about this. OK, we will talk about this 287 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,119 right now. So I had, so I'd have this 288 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,839 dream, I would have it about once a year. 289 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,200 And in this dream I would leave a place of light and hope and 290 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,400 safety and I would either be riding my bike or walking to go 291 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,680 to maybe a friend's house or something. 292 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,240 The destination never mattered. And I would turn a corner and I 293 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,560 would leave the sunshine and I would enter a realm of grey and 294 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,760 I could see darkness in the distance. 295 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,720 And even in the dream I'd be like, oh, I hate this dream, I 296 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,080 hate this dream. I try to pull myself out of it, 297 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,520 but always out of the darkness would emerge three different 298 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,480 men, and they would start walking towards me and I would 299 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:54,080 turn and try to run back into the sunlight, but it was always 300 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:59,600 trapped in the realm of grey. One man was a skeleton, one man 301 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,680 was half decayed, and one man was newly dead. 302 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,120 And they were terrifying. I mean, I to this day, I don't. 303 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,880 I don't. Dicken right here. 304 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,280 Seriously, it does sound like that. 305 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,960 And I kept trying to run. And no matter how fast I ran, 306 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,800 they just walked. They just walked steadily. 307 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,880 They didn't run. No matter how fast I ran, they 308 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:23,360 always caught up to me. And I would try to, you know, I 309 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:25,480 would say you can't hurt me. You're dead. 310 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:26,960 And like in my dream, I'd say you're dead. 311 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:27,840 You're dead. You can't hurt me. 312 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,680 And I would pick something up and throw it at them. 313 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,280 And as soon as I did something in the natural, they would do 314 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,440 something like cut off my hand or stab me. 315 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,680 And this dream, I would wake up like this. 316 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,240 So I become a Christian and instead of the dream going away, 317 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,440 it escalates. And now it's not once a year, 318 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,640 it's once a night. And I remember asking John like 319 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,040 if maybe it was once a month, then once a week, then Oh yeah. 320 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,440 Then every single night. And I'd pull, I'd pull myself 321 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,440 out of the dream and re enter it in another scenario. 322 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,480 And I would say like John, pray for me. 323 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,400 I'm having these nightmares. They're horrifying. 324 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,360 You need to pray for me. And I was very distraught that 325 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:15,040 number 1 John praying for me and us praying in agreement and us, 326 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,600 you know, claiming the promise of the scripture that you give 327 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,720 your beloved sleep and you know, and that our sweet our sleep 328 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,600 would be sweet. While I was not having good, 329 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,960 sweet, restful sleep. I was having nightmares. 330 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,200 I'm like, maybe I'm not the beloved. 331 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,640 What is going on? And and then, you know, also 332 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,080 binding the devil and felt like that was very demonic. 333 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,600 And so I call, I called my spiritual father. 334 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:42,760 And when, you know, John and I, I was, I was afraid to go to 335 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,000 sleep. I was afraid. 336 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,880 I called my spiritual father and he said, I'm going to send you 337 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,400 some cassette tapes. And he sent me cassette tapes on 338 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:58,880 the sins of the fathers. And I went through these 339 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,680 cassette tapes because that's how old I am. 340 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,720 And what are cassette tapes? Yeah, seriously. 341 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,680 And I found out that I had three generations. 342 00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:13,760 Of agreement with darkness. And they were following me. 343 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:19,160 And I just went through and prayed prayers of surrender, 344 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,040 breaking agreements. You know, my, my grandfather was 345 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,600 on the Manhattan Project. My, you know, he did, you know, 346 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,440 all the fluoridation, chlorination, my grandmother and 347 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,600 my, my, you know, my grandfather and my father, we're talking 348 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,360 about adultery. We're talking about alcoholism. 349 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:37,800 We're talking about so much brokenness. 350 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,000 We're talking about miscarriages. 351 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,840 We're talking about cancer. My mother had cancer, my 352 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,800 grandmother had cancer. I was born with cancer, lost an 353 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,240 eye to cancer, only to find out later that my grandfather, who 354 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,360 was a 32nd degree Mason, had made some vows. 355 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:55,240 And one of the vows was if I break any of this, one of my 356 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,040 descendants loses an eye. So I like. 357 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,800 And you, for those that don't know, you've lost an eye. 358 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:06,920 Yes, yes, since I lost 5 and they said it was just like they 359 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,840 don't know where it came from. So anyway, I prayed everything I 360 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,600 knew to pray. I renounced all of the things we 361 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,720 wrote. We wrote this prayer out that I 362 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,120 prayed actually in the fight for female book, because I want 363 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,720 everybody to you know, people are like, I don't believe in 364 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:22,560 that. That's fine. 365 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,920 You're not having nightmares. You know, maybe you came from 366 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,800 nice people. I did not come from nice people. 367 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,040 Maybe you came from people who didn't make all sorts of 368 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:35,200 occultic alliances, but I did and, and Christian, after going 369 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,080 through that time of prayer, the dream disappeared and I actually 370 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,680 realized, wait, I haven't had that dream. 371 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,480 And God said those were the three generations of agreement. 372 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,240 I here's the thing I've heard, I hear so much about how trauma, 373 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,880 trauma is generational and it's like paper, you know, paper cuts 374 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,520 and it's constant and it's constant. 375 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,240 Well, here's the thing, I am the beginning of 1000 generations 376 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,720 who love God and keep his commandments. 377 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,640 I am not bringing the prom, the trauma, the problems, the sin, 378 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,280 those things. We have a new bloodline at the 379 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,080 moment I got born again. Like I said, that's it. 380 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,880 Going forward, we will live differently going forward. 381 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,640 I mean, and and so that prayer that that so in a lot of ways, 382 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,840 that dream that felt like it was demonic actually was a 383 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,600 discerning of what I was wrestling in the spirit. 384 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,440 And it wasn't when I first got saved. 385 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,760 It was probably I'd been saved for about a year and a half and 386 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,400 and I just had started to really pursue holiness. 387 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,080 And I think the enemy was like, Hey, we don't want you pursuing 388 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,000 that. You know, we've had an 389 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,080 allegiance and an alliance with this family line for a long 390 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,880 time. We're not going to just give 391 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,560 this up without a fight. And people are like, well, the, 392 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,680 the, the moment you get born again, all the curse is broken. 393 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,840 Well, Satan is a legalist. So if you don't know who you are 394 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,000 in Christ, he will do everything he can to steal and rob from 395 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,280 you. And so that dream was a 396 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,480 punctuating moment for me and, and the very reason why I 397 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,240 included the prayer in this book so that people can just pause 398 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:17,200 and say Holy Spirit, we're we're the beginning of a new 399 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,120 generation. That's amazing. 400 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,840 I had. No, I had not heard that dream. 401 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,400 I would have definitely remembered. 402 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,720 Yeah, I rode it and kissed the girls. 403 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:24,640 OK. Yeah, yeah. 404 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:25,600 Wow. Yeah, it was. 405 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,520 It was a life changing. Well, praise God for getting 406 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,240 free, for finding that freedom, for having people to point you 407 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,200 back to, to digging deeper instead of just avoiding you. 408 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,400 But you're, you're touching on this. 409 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,640 I know we don't talk about dreams a whole lot. 410 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,240 And I think we think, OK, well, like you said, we have the word, 411 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,120 so we don't really need to add on to that. 412 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:49,200 But I think the heightening when someone has a nightmare, it 413 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,520 sticks with them. It wakes them up. 414 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,120 We know that that's real. But dreams, we're like, oh, 415 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:55,520 maybe they exist. Maybe God still speaks. 416 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:01,320 So why do you think that we are so amped to say yeah, nightmares 417 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,360 are real, and they're they're. Quick to leave the reality of a 418 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:05,640 nightmare than a dream. Yes. 419 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,080 Yeah. Well, I mean, I think it would 420 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,840 be negative. You know, at least I do. 421 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,680 Anytime I've had a nightmare that involved my children, the 422 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,200 first thing I did is I woke up in the middle of the night and 423 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,760 I've had a nightmare. I'm going to pray and I'm going 424 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,960 to pray for the safety of my children. 425 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,360 I'm going whatever, whatever. That dream like felt like 426 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,840 presented a risk. I'm going to pray the protection 427 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,840 and then I'm also going to be wise. 428 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:35,240 Like we don't want to have a fear driven counselling, but we 429 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,680 do have to say, well, that's a dangerous situation. 430 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,360 So I'm going to do everything I can to avoid that situation. 431 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,920 And so, yeah, I remember having a a number of dreams about my 432 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,360 children being at risk when they were young. 433 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,480 And I would just sit up and I would be like, in the name of 434 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,040 Jesus, That is not what's going to happen to my children. 435 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,360 God is going to give me wisdom. I am, I'm going to be like a 436 00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,720 Mama bear. I am not going to allow this to 437 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,640 happen. Holy Spirit, show me what's 438 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,200 going on. And then also when I would have 439 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,720 some stuff with maybe concerns with my kids, I just go upstairs 440 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,640 while they're asleep. And I would lay hands on them in 441 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,120 their sleep, not scream and yell, but just in the name of 442 00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:15,680 Jesus, I take my authority as their mother in the Spirit. 443 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,880 And they are sanctified and separated for God. 444 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,200 I mean, Hannah, Hannah said. Hey, Samuel, this is what you're 445 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,320 doing. You know, you're like, I'm 446 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,240 sorry, before I even conceive you, I concentrated you. 447 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,920 Yeah, so dreams are important because they they make us move. 448 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,680 They make it allow us to change things. 449 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,040 I remember having a dream one time that as he had a terrible 450 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,480 fever and then, you know, there's sometimes you're like, 451 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,680 oh, no, that's not going to happen. 452 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,160 But I walked into his room, 102° fever overnight, no symptoms. 453 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,200 So I think it's so powerful. Yeah. 454 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,040 Dreams are powerful. Dreams are powerful, yeah, and I 455 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,200 don't think that we should neglect them or allow them to 456 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,440 drive us, but they can be directional and protectional. 457 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,320 I love that. So dreams are directional. 458 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,360 Yeah, they're from God. They're directional. 459 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,800 I want to ask the question that I'm sure many people are 460 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,800 thinking right now. How do you know when a dream is 461 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,960 from God or not? Because I'm sure if I was 462 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,840 Joseph, I would have been like, man, that was a fever dream. 463 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,360 And that fever dream got me kicked out of my my family. 464 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,600 Should never. Shared it, right? 465 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,000 Yeah, I'm messing things up. That for me that was always the 466 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,360 thing with dreams is like, well, I believe God can speak through 467 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:27,800 dreams, but how do I trust myself to discern like I would 468 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,960 always get in my way. So for the person, I'm wondering 469 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,440 that same thing. Absolutely. 470 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,400 Where's your where's your guardrails? 471 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,200 Yeah. So first of all, the Word of God 472 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,200 is always going to be the guardrail if it is something 473 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,480 that is completely contrary to the Word of God. 474 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,680 I love how actually in I believe it's in Deuteronomy, it says if 475 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,280 a diviner or a dream interpreter comes to you with a dream and 476 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,640 that interpretation of that dream drives you away from the 477 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,480 things that the Lord your God has told you to follow. 478 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,320 If it's pointed you towards idolatry, God's like kill him. 479 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,400 Just just go ahead and kill him. Don't listen to him. 480 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,080 It's a test to see if you fear the Lord and then kill the 481 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,360 prophet, but God isn't. We're not doing the Old 482 00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:12,480 Testament prophet thing anymore where you have to go to somebody 483 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,400 to hear Jesus is our intercessor. 484 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:22,000 But when I've had a dream that stays with me that I can still 485 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:29,400 see that is quickened and and something that feels more, more 486 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,720 heavy, more weighty than my other dreams. 487 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,280 Like there's dreams sometimes when I'm first waking up, I 488 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,000 remember them, but by the time I've taken a shower, I have 489 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,560 absolutely no idea what I dreamed. 490 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,240 But the dreams that I get from the Holy Spirit, which I, I 491 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,040 would love to say it's every week, It's not, It's not. 492 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,200 And I would love to say it's because I'm so spiritual. 493 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,120 It's not. I believe it's first and 494 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:54,960 foremost because I gave God permission. 495 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,360 Speak to me however you want. Wake me up in the middle of the 496 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:00,400 night if you need to. Just don't be silent. 497 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,680 And I think that we need to pray those kind of prayers right now. 498 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,040 However God wants to speak to you, you give him permission to 499 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,920 do that. Wake you up if he needs to wake 500 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,360 you up, talk to you in the middle of the night if he needs 501 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:13,920 to talk to you or give you a dream. 502 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,600 So when we were reading in the very beginning that God gives us 503 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:23,200 direction, he gives us warnings. Warnings when I've had dreams 504 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,800 that have impressed itself. You know, I I know that I know 505 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,160 when I first got saved, I had a dream brand new Christian. 506 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,120 I had a dream that people were running in One Direction and I 507 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:38,520 was trying to stop them. And and I had such an awareness 508 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,960 that I was going to to be a person that would stand and say 509 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,080 you're heading towards destruction. 510 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,880 I mean, I had such a sense that people were running in the wrong 511 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,840 direction And and I don't, you know, I feel like that's been 512 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,720 something that's unfolded. I was before I ever even 513 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,320 married. John, did you ever dream about 514 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,960 Arden? Yeah. 515 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:01,640 You want to share about that? How did you know? 516 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,400 How did you know it was real? I mean, you're sitting there 517 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,960 pregnant with this child, but how did you know that was true? 518 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,200 This is the Lord. I love that yours is like 519 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,480 ministry direction. No, I, I think this is sweet 520 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,760 too, to share that there's all kind of different directions 521 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,320 like from me when I was in my early 20s. 522 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,000 One of the biggest things is like, OK, God, why? 523 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,240 I want to go where you want me to go and I don't want to go 524 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,840 where you don't. I want to be with who you've 525 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,680 called me to be with and I don't want to be with who you haven't. 526 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,120 And I remember having a dream and like, but now I can see it 527 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,680 so clearly, which I think is beautiful. 528 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,320 You say that they stick with you visually, emotionally. 529 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,160 And I was in a time of singleness and my friends were 530 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,680 engaged and I moved back home and I was like, I'm not going to 531 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,040 meet anybody back in Alabama. I've, you know, I, I don't know 532 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,600 where to go from here. And I fell asleep. 533 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,440 And in my dream, I'm walking out, and there's just these, 534 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,080 like, mountainous trees everywhere. 535 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,920 And I was like, OK, this is somewhere I've never been. 536 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,360 And I walk out, and there's a bunch of people, and they just 537 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,480 start clapping. They're like, congratulations. 538 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,560 And I was like, what's going on? And I look over and I'm holding 539 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:10,000 hands with this tall man, and he puts on his glasses, and someone 540 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,640 says, congratulations on your engagement. 541 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,400 So I was like, OK, I'm engaged to this man I've never seen 542 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,720 before. That's exciting. 543 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,880 You know, God, if you would have told me here, here's his name, 544 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,520 here's when it's going to happen, that would have been 545 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,560 great. But I just had some direction go 546 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,960 off, you know, nothing I could wake up and do the next day. 547 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,520 Nothing of you know, even I just cherish it, my heart. 548 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,440 And I think that's for dreams. Sometimes it's it is OK, go and 549 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,120 do this or even like you were saying, I don't know what that 550 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,080 running direction looks like, but I'm going to hold fast to 551 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,800 that. I'm going to let that speak to 552 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,240 me. And I remember on our second 553 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,880 date, Arden did something. He said, oh, let me go. 554 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,800 It's a virtual date because we were long distance, which is 555 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,480 fun. We should do something on that 556 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,120 to encourage people, didn't you? Like watch a movie with you. 557 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,000 Oh, yeah, we were doing something on FaceTime and they 558 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,600 said, oh, hold on, let me go get my glasses on. 559 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,440 And as soon as I saw that, the images in my mind linked up and 560 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,160 I was like, Oh my goodness, this is. 561 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,280 Did you propose? Hey, while you're getting your 562 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,280 glasses, can I get down on one knee? 563 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,200 You know, he he proposed. He did at the traditional route. 564 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,800 You raised a gentleman. But yeah, it things like that. 565 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,520 I had dreams of when I was pregnant of times that I was 566 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,280 scared that I had food poisoning and like my baby was going to be 567 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,440 ill or something of just comfort. 568 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,440 And so I think that God can speak to us for for vision of, 569 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,760 hey, there's hope. Here's where I want you to go. 570 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,200 There's comfort. There's something I'm calling 571 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,760 you to do. And so I love, I love that we 572 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,280 have this, this full terrain of why God even speaks. 573 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,040 Yeah, and, and here's again, we're going to just keep saying 574 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,400 this until you hear it. He wants to speak to everyone, 575 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,640 not just ministers, not just men, not just women. 576 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,040 He wants to speak to everyone, not just Christian, not just 577 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,680 Lisa. I, you know, funny that you 578 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,280 would say that. I remember I did not. 579 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,680 I did not know I was pregnant with Arden. 580 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,320 And I had a dream that I was trying to cross A4 lane highway 581 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,840 and I was pregnant. And I'm, I'm like trying to 582 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,160 navigate, you know, traffic's going this way, traffic's going 583 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,560 that way. And I'm trying to run from one 584 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,680 side of the street to the other. And I'm feeling so like panicked 585 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,920 because not only I'm trying to cross the street, but I'm 586 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,600 pregnant and I feel at risk and I'm carrying a baby. 587 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,120 And I remember I woke up and I sat up in the bed and I looked 588 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,400 at John and I said, I'm pregnant. 589 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,640 And he's like, what? I said, oh, nothing, nothing. 590 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,360 I said I just had a dream that I was pregnant and I was trying to 591 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,320 cross A4 lane highway. But it was God saying four sons. 592 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,720 And I went and got a pregnancy test and I hadn't even missed a 593 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,600 period. And and I knew that I was 594 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,880 pregnant with Arden. And I named him Arden 595 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,120 Christopher because fiery and determined. 596 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,960 But right away we didn't know it was going to be a boy until I 597 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,200 had the dream. And then we had the sonogram. 598 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,000 So I think that God can confirm, affirm dreams and dreams aren't 599 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,280 always I mean two years after Joseph interpreted the dream, 600 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,360 but I don't even know how many years I I've heard it said. 601 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,240 I think it's like 10 years between being a slave and then 602 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,200 being in prison and that time period from the dream being 603 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,360 given to the dream being fulfilled. 604 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,480 And I think sometimes we want to make something happen. 605 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,080 We're got to say, and I'm on the other side of this already, it's 606 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,520 going to be OK. I also dreamed I was pregnant 607 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,520 with Addison. And that was interesting because 608 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:40,320 it was the last day that I was under the benefits of Eli Lilly 609 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,520 pharmaceutical company. And I had a dream the night 610 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,720 before, took a pregnancy test. Finally I was pregnant and they 611 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,240 covered the baby. So it was just this crazy moment 612 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,600 and I remember when I had I had just three boys and I started 613 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,120 having nightmares about my grandmother being trapped in the 614 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,120 attic of her house. And it was the such bizarre 615 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,080 dreams. And so John, John said for 616 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,200 Mother's Day, what do you want? What do you want to do for 617 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,800 Mother's Day? And I said, I want to do one 618 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,040 thing. And he said, well, I said, I 619 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,000 want to go see my grandmother. And she was up in Indiana. 620 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,360 We were living in Florida in the time. 621 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,120 And I remember I came to my grandmother. 622 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:22,400 She was living in an apartment, and she had basically severe 623 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,080 dementia. And I remember I took her out to 624 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,040 dinner and she started saying some things to me. 625 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,400 And she said, but you know what? If I'm ever in danger, Lisa will 626 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,120 take care of me. And I remember I reached across 627 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,400 the table and I said, Grandma, I am Lisa. 628 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:46,560 And she just burst into tears and she said what is going on 629 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,639 with me? Why didn't I know you were Lisa? 630 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,840 And I said it's OK, it's OK. And we were able to make 631 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,400 provision for her to be safe and. 632 00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,680 And did you know she had dementia? 633 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,960 No. OK, no, we did not know she had 634 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,360 dementia. And I, I, when I went to see 635 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,760 her, nobody did because nobody was there. 636 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,280 She was lighting matches and, and looking at at things in the 637 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,800 dark and just dropping the matches on the car a bit. 638 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:18,160 And she was, this is kind of funny but kind of sad. 639 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:23,160 She was writing checks to a liquor store, multiple checks 640 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,680 for like maybe $12.00. And all the checks were all over 641 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,400 the dining room table. And she would send a taxi out to 642 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,040 go get her her liquor. And so I had someone check on 643 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,120 her that was a a beautiful friend of my parents who was an 644 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,600 attorney and, and we are able to rescue her, but she could have 645 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,680 burned the place down. And, and you know, when I, when 646 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,360 I look back, her being trapped in an attic, it felt like she 647 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,400 was imprisoned in her mind. Yeah, it was crazy. 648 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,160 So we want to look provisional things, Yeah. 649 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:55,960 Provisional, yeah, Alcohol and gas, it's not a good alcohol. 650 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,440 That's not a good mix. Yeah. 651 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,640 It was so sad. I think the last day that she 652 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,680 was there, she was, she was in her nightgown walking down the 653 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,120 highway. I know it's hard. 654 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,040 It's hard. So I do believe that God wants 655 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,600 to speak to us about things like that. 656 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,720 He wants to comfort us. But but asking, you know? 657 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:20,600 So does God use dreams? Yes, does. 658 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,080 How do we cultivate that? I believe we can ask for God to 659 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:30,000 give us a sensitivity for the things of the Spirit, whether he 660 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,000 wants to speak to us in the night watches or he wants to 661 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,680 speak to us where we see things that maybe other people are 662 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,280 missing. God wants to speak in the 663 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,120 language of visions and dreams. Then we said, how do you know 664 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,800 the dream is from God? It's punctuated. 665 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,640 And usually if it's a dream from God, there'll be a moment where 666 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,200 it's confirmed. When I found I was pregnant. 667 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,000 When you found out oh art and wears glasses. 668 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,240 When all of the sudden I have this dream. 669 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,280 With the birth of the sun you will awaken A lioness. 670 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,520 When I had the dream where I can still see that dream. 671 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:09,600 When I had the dream about random rainbow colored Dragons 672 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,640 with children's clothing, I mean, that is such a random 673 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:18,560 dream that you don't forget it. And then having that in 2016 and 674 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,880 not writing the book until 2023 and then finding out the book 675 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,680 comes out in 2024, which is the year of the dragon. 676 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,480 And people are like, isn't that a strong no, It's the Chinese 677 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,040 New Year of the dragon. Well, do we follow that? 678 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,040 No, but it is. It is it is interesting that 679 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,240 Dragons represent chaos and destruction and we are in an 680 00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,920 election year, so we shouldn't be surprised. 681 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,920 We are not led by the Chinese New Year, but we are also not 682 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,680 ignorant of what the enemy is trying to do so. 683 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,400 So I hear you answering a question that I want to ask. 684 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,480 What do you do once you get the dream? 685 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,200 What's your next step? Do you write it down? 686 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,560 Do you write into it? Do you say God confirm this? 687 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,800 I sleep with an iPad by my bed and I will tend to type things 688 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,520 out in my bed without even turning on the lights so that 689 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,880 I've got the iPad. How often do you misspell words? 690 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,560 A lot, especially with predictive typing. 691 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,440 Yeah. And I, you know, I have, I have 692 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,320 a typing key thing. So it like it lights up, but I 693 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,960 will try to write it down right away. 694 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,520 And there's going to be again for me, you know, I, you know, I 695 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,440 want the Holy Spirit to speak to me more. 696 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:31,160 But again, I'm going to always, I'll write it down. 697 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,600 Then I might share it with my husband in the morning if I 698 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,080 still feel it. And then I'm going to check it 699 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,600 with Scripture. OK, So I had such a sense. 700 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,920 This is a dream I had years ago. I had such a sense that there 701 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,760 was an attack on the body of Christ, but here was the dream 702 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,120 that I had. I, I hate spiders. 703 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,120 I, I probably even hate spiders more than I hate snakes. 704 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,440 Like I, I like if I see the way the spiders even move, I like 705 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,600 freak out. So I had this dream that I 706 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,400 actually thought was real. I in my dream, I'm asleep from 707 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,840 my bed and I look down and I realized that somebody has put 708 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,760 like a big duffel bag on the floor by my bed. 709 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,680 And I thought, why is there a duffel bag on the floor by my 710 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,680 bed? And then I noticed it was 711 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,640 unzipped. And then I noticed spiders. 712 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,720 Yes, spiders started climbing out of the duffel bag. 713 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,360 And I'm like, can I get it zipped fast enough? 714 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,760 And I couldn't, I couldn't. But I could grab the handles. 715 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,760 And remember, I ran the duffel bag into the bathroom and I 716 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,520 threw it in the bathtub and I turned on the water and I 717 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,400 drowned the spiders. And, and it was so real, I 718 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,520 actually thought it had happened. 719 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,520 And I sapped my bed. I was like, OK, wait, there's no 720 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,920 duffel bag. There's no spiders. 721 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,880 The water's not. The water's not funny. 722 00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:58,600 It didn't happen, but it's like I still can see that dream. 723 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,600 And so when I prayed about it, like when I woke up the next 724 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,640 morning, I was like, that was terrifying. 725 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,720 Were you trying to speak to me? And God said. 726 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,680 There's an oppression attacking my people and it's the things 727 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,560 they keep in the baggage of their past. 728 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,240 Tell them to drown it with the water of my word. 729 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,480 And so I remember I just got on whatever social media I had 730 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,720 access to in that moment. I think it was Facebook and I 731 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:26,320 said, listen, there are some of you right now and you are 732 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,000 wrestling with depression and oppression and it's because 733 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,480 you're carrying around the baggage of the things in your 734 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,320 past and God is saying you need to drown it with the water of 735 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,080 his word. So it's you're going to always 736 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,160 go back to Jesus is going to always go back to God's word. 737 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,360 It you know, I don't call other people for dream 738 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,080 interpretations. You know, I've tried a couple 739 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,360 times people like we got nothing. 740 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,600 So usually if you're going to have a dream, you can actually 741 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,880 take it to to God and take it to the word and say, what are you, 742 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,920 what are you saying to me through this? 743 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:05,480 And so hopefully that dream, it wasn't about me as much as it 744 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,800 was about people that were hurting. 745 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,360 And so many people reached out to me and said that just 746 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,360 resonated. I was fighting discouragement. 747 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,520 I was fighting despair. I was fighting oppression, I was 748 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:21,800 fighting depression. And I need to get into the word. 749 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,920 The Word washes us with the water of the Holy Spirit. 750 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:28,440 Why shouldn't we go to people to interpret dreams? 751 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,520 Yes, Joseph did interpret the dreams. 752 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,640 I mean, if you want somebody to take your head cut off. 753 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:42,040 No, I, I mean, here's the thing. I it's probably not wrong, but I 754 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:47,680 do feel that God wants to speak to you directly so you can go to 755 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,800 the word. But yeah, I mean, if you're 756 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,960 really, if you trust somebody, if you trust somebody and they 757 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,000 know you well enough and they know the Holy Spirit well 758 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,360 enough, this I feel like those people are rare. 759 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,640 And, and I've had people come to me and say, Hey, I had this 760 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,520 dream, you know, what do you think about it? 761 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,520 And I'm like, I, I've got nothing, you know, or I ask 762 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,680 them, what do you think? And they'll say, I feel like 763 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,480 it's God sayings AB and C Cause normally if you're having a 764 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,640 dream, your brain is processing something. 765 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,080 So it's something that you picked up during the day that 766 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,400 you missed the cues on. Like for example. 767 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,200 This is really interesting. I don't know if you have seen 768 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,960 this but people are completely unaware of what is going on 769 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,600 around them. Like I was walking I was walking 770 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,200 in Dallas, TX recently and as I was walking past people, almost 771 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,000 every person I walked past was either on the phone or had 772 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,640 headphones in. So they're missing audio cues, 773 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:58,880 they're missing visual cues and people are dumbing down their 774 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,960 awareness of their surroundings. So I feel like I like to go to 775 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,560 God and say, why are you having to give me a dream? 776 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,320 What am I not listening to? What? 777 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,360 Where am I not sensitive? I also have heard that your 778 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,320 brain is functions as a processor like a highly high 779 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,520 level community computer where you take an input all during the 780 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:29,320 day and not your body. Your brain processes what 781 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,920 happened during the day. That's why you can go to bed 782 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,400 saying, yeah, I feel really good about that purchase and then 783 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,240 wake up the next morning and go and we should not do it. 784 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,880 Yeah. And that's because your advice 785 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,360 to sleep on things is what you're saying. 786 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,760 Your advice. To sleep on things, Yeah. 787 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,840 So I don't know. I mean, I wish. 788 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,360 Listen, if if you're out there and you know some dream 789 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,800 interpreters. Recommend them in the comments. 790 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,880 Put them in the comments. Well, what I'm hearing you say 791 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,200 is we're so quick to want the answers and want it validated, 792 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,920 where instead this is an opportunity to keep listening 793 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,440 and speaking with God. So it's not that people are 794 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,080 wrong, but you want people to keep tuning in with God. 795 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,480 Like take the dream deeper is what I'm hearing you say. 796 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,600 You know when it says that if you receive a prophet in the 797 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,960 name of the prophet, you receive a prophet's reward. 798 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,960 And when you think about the prophet's reward, you think, 799 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,800 what is the prophet's reward? Being cut in half, being stoned, 800 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,720 living on the outer fringes of life, eating, you know, 801 00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:26,600 grasshoppers or locusts and honey. 802 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,960 Like what? What is the prophet's reward? 803 00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:36,960 Well, prophets have the ability to hear and see what God is 804 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:42,360 saying and what God is doing. So I do believe that there is a 805 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,480 prophetic anointing in the body of Christ that's supposed to 806 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:52,320 remove the obstacles that are in your heart so that you see and 807 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,920 you here rather than going to a seer and bringing a diviner's 808 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,400 fee to say, hey, can you help me out here? 809 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,520 I feel like God is saying go to the word, get on your knees. 810 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,600 I want to speak to you directly. I feel like we all need to have 811 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,200 a keen sense of the word of God. So, yeah, if you, if you know 812 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,040 somebody, if you know somebody that you trust their sensitivity 813 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,160 and they're not going to draw you to their gifting, but 814 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,840 they're going to draw you to the gift giver. 815 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,400 They're going to draw you to the one who lifts all people up 816 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,480 rather than just say, come to me, come to me. 817 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,520 If you've got somebody like that, that's amazing. 818 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:36,040 I mean, it did say that Daniel had the gift of interpreting 819 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,760 dreams. It also said that Joseph had the 820 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,200 gift of interpreting dreams. Paul didn't have to go to an 821 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,800 interpreter. He actually had a very clear 822 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,960 ability. It was interesting for me when I 823 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,600 was studying about this preparing, it said that the fact 824 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:58,080 that God showed Pharaoh the same thing in a different way twice. 825 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,120 The cattle and then the cattle that was, you know, diminished 826 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,440 and then the corn and then the corn that was diminished said 827 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:11,360 that this was going to happen. It was sure it was not going to 828 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,480 be changed. And so I do think some dreams 829 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,200 that are warnings, it is something that God saying you 830 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,400 can do something about it. If you are willing and obedient, 831 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,640 you will. It's always an if. 832 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,200 I think you're saying the good in Scripture where he goes 833 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,720 truly, truly, I say the repetition is significant. 834 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,160 OK, I want to ask you a different side of that coin. 835 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,320 So I've had more dreams outside of pregnancy but. 836 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,880 You know these dreams. Are wild they are and this is my 837 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,960 reality very much so. But with Azariah I had dreams 838 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,880 right before kind of similar to you right when I was funny I was 839 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,440 pregnant had a dream that he was a boy had a dream of protection 840 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,680 and then with baby girl I we went through a period of trying 841 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,680 to get pregnant took longer and I feel like in the 842 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,560 discouragement I was like OK, God like when is this going to 843 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,760 happen? Are you going to give me any 844 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,040 dreams? Are you going to give us any 845 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,280 timeline and probably a week before we knew we were pregnant, 846 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,880 we had three people that we trust come to us and say hey, 847 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,360 I've had a dream that you're going to be pregnant soon. 848 00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:16,920 And so it was kind of a flip of I went from hearing dreams from 849 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,240 God to other people having dreams. 850 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,960 So what do you do on the other side of when someone else has a 851 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,800 dream for you? I think it's one thing of, OK, 852 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,920 God gave me a dream, I'm going to interpret it with him. 853 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,880 But are we cautious when someone has a word or a dream for us? 854 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,920 What are we supposed to do when we're receiving those? 855 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,720 No. And that's a that's a great 856 00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:38,480 valid question. First of all, do you know the 857 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,280 person The Bible says know those who labor among you? 858 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,840 You don't want to let just anybody lay hands on you or just 859 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,520 anybody speak into your life like I had a dream. 860 00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:51,680 And then you judge it. You judge it with the word. 861 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,240 You judge it like let's all just be honest. 862 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:57,600 We, we can feel yucky about something, you know, and like I, 863 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,280 I don't, I don't feel good about that. 864 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,680 These are obviously people you had a relationship with where 865 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,800 you trusted them and you're asking God something and they 866 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,480 have voice in your life and relationship in your life. 867 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,760 I've had crazy people on social media say things to me and I'm 868 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,280 like, Hey, I like, I just brush it off. 869 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,680 I don't have I don't have relationship with them. 870 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,080 They don't have voice in my life. 871 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,920 I don't know who they are. I don't know what they stand 872 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,920 for. And so you, you do want to to 873 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,760 guard that. You do want to guard your heart. 874 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,680 And again, guard not in prison. You don't want to isolate 875 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,960 yourself, but but guard and Joseph did say, Hey, bring your 876 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,640 dreams. Bring your dreams to me. 877 00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:51,440 Another thing, Jesus, Jesus, I mean, Joseph is like, hey, wait 878 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,960 a minute, I I'm engaged, I'm betrothed to Mary and she's 879 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:02,640 pregnant and I don't want to set her up to public public squarm. 880 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,760 So I'm going to quietly divorce her. 881 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,960 And it says, I love this. It says now the birth of Jesus 882 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,200 Christ took place in this way when his mother Mary had been 883 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,640 betrothed to Joseph before they came together. 884 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,320 She was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit and her 885 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,560 husband Joseph being a just man and willing to put her to shame. 886 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,960 Can I just, can we just pause on that a moment? 887 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:30,520 Just men don't shame women. OK, Resolve to divorce her 888 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,440 quietly. But as he considered these 889 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:39,120 things, behold, an Angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, 890 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,480 appeared to him in a dream, saying, Joseph, son of David. 891 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,040 Do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is 892 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,280 conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 893 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,520 She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for 894 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,840 he will save his people from their sins. 895 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:05,760 Then we know again, in a dream, God tells Joseph to take Mary 896 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:11,080 and Jesus and flee to Egypt. Now think about that. 897 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,880 He got up, it said, and he rose and took the child and his 898 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,000 mother by night. Like he woke up in the middle of 899 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,200 the night, had this dream and was like, hey, get up, get up, 900 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,840 pack your stuff. He took Mary and he took Jesus 901 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,120 by night. In the middle of the night they 902 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:33,800 fled to Egypt. And and I just, I just realized 903 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,400 Christian people paid attention to dreams back then. 904 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,360 Think about Solomon. When did God appear to Solomon 905 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,360 in a dream? In a dream, God said, what do 906 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,880 you want? He said, I want wisdom, I want 907 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,000 wisdom. So God wants to speak to us in 908 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,520 our dreams. God wants to speak to us through 909 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,040 our dreams. It sounds like God wants to 910 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,760 speak to some of us through the dreams of other people. 911 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,280 Christian, you've had friends you can trust. 912 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,640 I feel like God has tapped me on the shoulder a couple times 913 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,520 through dreams and said hey you, this dream is not about you, 914 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,240 this dream is about them. Lioness arising. 915 00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:15,520 When God said with the birth of the Son you will awaken A 916 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,720 lioness. He was not talking about me, he 917 00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:21,160 was talking about the women in the body of Christ that a 918 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,600 fierce, nurturing wake up where they would begin to fight to 919 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,400 protect the children. When I had the dream where women 920 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:34,480 were partnering with Dragons, it was the very opposite of what I 921 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,320 felt like God had commissioned me to wake up. 922 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,520 And so again, I didn't write the book because of the dream. 923 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,200 The message of the book was confirmed by the dream which we 924 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,320 see in Revelation. We see this war between a woman 925 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,440 and a dragon. We see a woman pregnant. 926 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,080 We know that's Mary specifically talking about Jesus. 927 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:04,760 But then we also see this woman being attacked, and the very 928 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:10,680 earth opens up and swallows all that the dragon releases at her. 929 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,000 And I believe that's pornography, misogyny, sex 930 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,720 trafficking, everything that would denigrate both male and 931 00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:21,560 female, everything that would denigrate the sanctity of life, 932 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,440 everything that would denigrate the image of God. 933 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:31,520 And so we want to fight not just with the dreams, but with the 934 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,960 word. I love the very first sentence 935 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,600 in the fight for female says God has spoken and God speaks. 936 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,000 And if you're curious, you're like I, I'm just on the cusp of 937 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,160 this. I want to know more. 938 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,440 I want to learn how God even wants to speak to me. 939 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,600 I encourage you to get the Fight for Female which is available 940 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,800 everywhere now and you can get your copy and begin to hopefully 941 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,360 go on that deep dive and and have some amazing dreams and you 942 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,200 can let us know. And I do believe that God wants 943 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,280 to speak to you through dreams. And yeah, we all need, but it's 944 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,320 on and in your life. So thank you so much for joining 945 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,640 us for the Fight for Female podcast. 946 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,440 We love it when you give us comments, you give us feedback. 947 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,080 We want to know how we can be more effective and speak to you. 948 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,960 So we're going to we're going to challenge you to rate, review 949 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,240 and subscribe to the Fight for Female podcast. 950 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:24,960 Until next time, this has been Lisa and Christian Bevere. 951 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,680 Thanks for joining us for another episode of the Fight for 952 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,400 Female podcast. 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