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We're going to be talking about 
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health. 
People are living in fear and 

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shame and isolation with some of
these struggles. 

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I feel as Christians we really 
should and can have the best, 

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most exciting sex lives. 
I still want to be a Christian, 

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I still want to love God, but I 
want a sex drive. 

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I want that for my marriage and 
the health benefits from 

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covenant sex a woman you get a 5
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that is a special stress busting
gift just for woman in marriage 

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sex. 
I want you guys to talk to that 

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woman that right now is out 
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How does she go from this place 
of being sexually shut down to 

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be coming back alive again? 
If you're close to 40 or past 40

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or you're in your 60s, maybe 70s
and you just feel so like this 

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for the younger ones I would 
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Well, welcome to another show. 
I am so excited. 

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Listen, we pay attention to what
you pay attention to and today I

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have some guests on that are 
going to be talking about your 

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health. 
Not just any health, but we're 

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going to be talking about your 
feminine and even sexual health.

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Yes, we said sexual because that
is such an intricate secret part

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of who you are as a woman. 
So if you're a guy right now and

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you think, well, this probably 
shouldn't involve me, what if 

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you're married, you should 
probably listen in because I 

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think you are going to want to 
hear about this. 

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And so today I'm hosting the 
authors of Trim and Healthy 

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Mama, who just now have a new 
book called Trim and Healthy 

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Wisdom. 
Because as we get older, we get 

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smarter, we get wiser. 
And this book, I don't even know

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if you can see it, This book, 
you could hurt somebody with 

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this book. 
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All the books I've ever written 
in my entire life have never put

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together to be this thick. 
So I'm so excited to welcome 

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both Pearl and Serene. 
Thank you for coming to the Lisa

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Bevere podcast. 
I cannot wait to introduce you 

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to our women. 
We are so honored to be here. 

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I got to come out to your barn 
and be with you guys. 

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You guys were so much fun. 
Outrageous in coming out to a 

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barn. 
I did. 

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I did end up at the the chicken 
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rooster fight, cock fighting. 
I was like what in the world? 

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Why am I here so? 
That was your introduction to 

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us. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, well, I have met you 
virtually, that's true. 

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So I wasn't completely surprised
that that would be involved in 

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meeting you in real life. 
OK. 

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So listen, why? 
Why write this book? 

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I mean, it's, it's, it's just 
time, right? 

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And we're nerds. 
That's that's why it's big. 

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You're nerds. 
OK, we, we love to research grew

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up that way, right? 
We we're third generation 

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crunchy. 
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From Australia, you guys hear an
accent? 

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They're from us. 
Oh, it's so weak now. 

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It's it's kind of a mutt accent,
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between Australia. 
Don't call American accents 

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mutt. 
Don't do. 

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It yeah, we're between the 
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not it's we were born in New 
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like that true Australian or 
true American, we're just. 

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Me. 
So I lied. 

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You're New Zealanders. 
But, well, that's our part. 

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Kiwis, yeah. 
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They're not from ours. 
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From another reason we wrote 
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desperation. 
You know, we had we wrote Trim 

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Healthy Mama and we had 
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for health, you know, food, 
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But there was something missing 
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tweaking things as you go 
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you know, go on the journey of 
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perimenopause, things that were 
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were, they all had ticked their 
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like my body is betraying me. 
I don't know what's. 

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Happening. 
It does feel like a betrayal. 

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I feel like that's very 
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I went through it. 
I'm like, well, you know, I'm 

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the founder with serene of this 
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I'm doing all the right things. 
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salad. 
You know, I'm not eating junk 

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food. 
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ways that I didn't I couldn't 
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belly was getting bigger and and
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looser, all in the wrong areas. 
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And and really this is a just a 
big deep dive into all things 

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hormonal that relate to woman 
and how to use food as medicine 

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during this time, but how to use
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And also that sexual component, 
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change affect how we feel, how 
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pretty much do everything. 
And really this book is a big 

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deep dive into how to optimize 
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And it's not DRY and you? 
Just say it's not. 

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DRY. 
It's not DRY. 

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Because we don't want people to 
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research book. 
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you could read it in a couple of
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So if you just want to go to the
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will. 
It'll hurt your heart, but but 

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you'll make it easy. 
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go to the end of each chapter on
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I need to go back and read it 
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OK, so how old were you when you
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Peri menopause or. 
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stop having periods for 12 
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Well you know they say before 45
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average being 51. 
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having 4.7 million miles on 
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before my 60s. 
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that's interesting. 
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perimenopausal. 
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on the train of hormonal 
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never go into menopause. 
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You know, I mean your ovaries 
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They won't it they won't. 
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having babies when I'm like 82 
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fun. 
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I watched her struggle before me
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And she got in my face one day 
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give you any advice, don't do 
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body to get totally tanked and 
then try and you know. 

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There's such confusion though. 
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so much, but my mental changes. 
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dementia. 
I was worried because I was, you

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know, I'm a researcher. 
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talk with doctors all the time. 
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last sentence. 
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I don't know if you experienced 
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intense I was worried for 
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caffeine. 
I'm not sure that was the best 

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thing, but that is what I did, 
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Yeah, I mean, whatever I tried, 
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testosterone, those hormones 
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They fuel our mental clarity. 
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Bomb. 
It's like the bomb of Gilead. 

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You're relaxing hormone, you 
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into, I think it's so confusing 
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Like we hear so much out there 
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Should we just go natural or 
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My doctor, Tommy, I can't or 
hold on. 

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I'm I'm a post breast cancer 
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What do I do? 
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so many people telling us what 
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And really, this book is all 
about, hey, here is a pathway 

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for your unique situation. 
Whatever you're faced with, 

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there's a way. 
Information to help you make 

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that right choice for you, 
because that's going to look 

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different for for many, many 
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Many women, they'll be like, 
yeah, I want to optimize my 

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hormones. 
Others are going to be like, 

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it's not for me. 
So we have rocks in here. 

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We have foundational steps that 
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the average run-of-the-mill, you
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tweaks to really rock 40 and 
beyond and feel fabulous as you 

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age. 
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that future as like in fear 
almost like, you know, I just, I

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feel like all I had before me is
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more fragile or a little more 
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But no, I just feel like there's
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modern era too, with science and
cutting edge science married to,

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you know, foundational ancient 
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I'm going for 120 actually. 

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We are so excited about a 

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We're going to be bringing you 

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Wow, that's OK. 
First of all, that is amazing 

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and I I'm sure you guys because 
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research they're finding out 
that a lot of the basis of no 

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estradiol, you know that will 
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They're finding out that all of 
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and so women have been denied 
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dementia and then they have 
osteoporosis and then they have,

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you know, problems with all 
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like you're talking about brain 
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their entire body's health is 
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So let's talk about why why that
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I I did hear somebody, I did 
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her hormones drop, people would 
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away. 
But but why? 

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It was such a taboo. 

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It was just like, put your big 
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Your mother went through it, her
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But you know, it's, it's amazing
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about those study that came out 
the WHI study in 2002 and it 

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rocked the entire world. 
It was so sensational. 

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It said hormones when you take 
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will cause, you know, stroke. 
That was the big thing causes 

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cancer, cause a stroke. 
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stop prescribing them. 
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But guess what went up? 
Antidepressants. 

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When Prozac went up, you know 
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exploded. 
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beautiful neurotransmitters in 
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people say, well, I just want to
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opt for a thing that is very 
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do the BI identical molecules of
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knows it's like lock and key 
like this is made for me kind of

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thing. 
They usually end up on the heart

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medicine, on the blood pressure 
lowering, on the 

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antidepressants, on the anti 
What is it the when the bones, 

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you know, the osteoporosis or 
whatever. 

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Yes. 
They have to get on all of that 

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which. 
Makes your bones hard but 

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brittle. 
Right, Yes, they're taking more 

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medication. 
And so I heard it like this. 

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It's really interesting. 
This doctor said, you know, when

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you're talking about that study 
which looked at synthetic 

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hormones and yes, there was a 
slight increase in breast cancer

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and stroke. 
I mean, later they decided it 

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wasn't really an increase, but 
it was slight. 

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The hormones use were synthetic.
So and this doctor said, look at

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it like this. 
It was like our hormones, 

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estrogen, testosterone, 
progesterone, think of them as a

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strawberry and now think of the 
synthetic ones as a strawberry 

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Jelly Bean. 
So. 

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That's quite a difference. 
One is completely defect 

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flavored, yes, and one is an 
actual organic. 

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Yes, it's got dyes in it, it's 
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it's got toxins. 
It's foreign to the body, where 

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as a strawberry, your body knows
what to do with it. 

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And the study was on the 
strawberry Jelly Bean. 

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Wow. 
And yet the whole world shunned 

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hormones. 
And really, until this day, when

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the science is coming out. 
Yeah, You know, it's tragic. 

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You mentioned strokes and breast
cancer, and my mother had both a

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stroke and breast cancer and she
did not ever do any of the 

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natural hormones. 
And I'm, I'm just often 

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wondering, would she still be 
here? 

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Well, that's the thing. 
There was a loss of life pretty 

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young. 
A lot of those diseases, they, 

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they come after 40. 
They come when a woman has gone 

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through menopause. 
You know, you don't really hear 

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about dementia and people before
menopause. 

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You don't hear about 
osteoporosis, You don't hear 

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about stroke. 
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killer of women, even above men 
because estradiol out estrogen 

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is cardiac protective. 
It's bone protective. 

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It's so it's not just that women
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stress, it's that they have this
compounded stress and no 

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hormone, no. 
Support. 

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Well, you take a woman who's 60 
and you take a man who a man who

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is 60. 
The average woman not on hormone

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restoration has a less estrogen 
than a man who is 60. 

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Yes. 
When? 

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When I know that's true because 
I know John has more estrogen 

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than me. 
Yeah, men might might have like 

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3540. 
A woman may have two 3. 

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So, yeah. 
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protected as a man at that age, 
but it's just amazing because 

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now the studies are coming out. 
There was one came out 2024 last

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year that followed 10 million 
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And actually they had less 
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taking bioidentical. 
That's the keyword bioidentical 

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hormone. 
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sitting here and saying, well, 
you must go on bioidentical 

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hormones because as Serene said,
if you can't and they're not for

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everybody, there are things that
you can do. 

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And that's what we really talk 
about in this book. 

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Your bones are going to lose 
minerals. 

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So what do you do about that? 
Well, you got a strength 

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training. 
Well, you got to eat your 

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protein muscles. 
Are going to be wasting after 30

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sarcopenia and especially as you
lose your hormones which are 

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anabolic in nature and it's like
a freight train so but there are

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things you can do to turn that 
around. 

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Strength training, being nerdy 
about protein, At least 4 

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servings a day, yeah. 
Wow, OK. 

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But now I've heard that that's 
kind of difficult for women to 

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consume enough protein. 
Can you give me an example? 

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What does that look like on a 
daily basis? 

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Well, we're protein nerds. 
Yeah, yes, that's why I'm 

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asking. 
But it doesn't mean so so many 

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women, they start to hear, you 
know, it's all the rage right 

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now. 
Well, we need more protein. 

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And so suddenly so many women 
going out and eating just like 

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huge chunks of meat. 
And it's true. 

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When you, when you post 40, you 
need more protein than you ever 

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needed in your life. 
How interesting. 

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I mean, 18 year old boys can 
grow muscle on white bread. 

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I mean, they have that insulin, 
anabolic, you know, pathway and 

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they can make muscle out of 
carbohydrate. 

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But you know, we don't have 
that. 

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And when we're older, we have 
that luchine pathway and we need

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it stimulated by amino acids. 
And so, you know, we, we get 

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nerdy about not just having 
around 20, 25 grams of protein 

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in a meal, we get nerdy about 
having at least three grams of 

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luchine because that's the 
amino. 

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Acid What is luchine? 
It's your it's your boss like so

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you've got 8 essential amino 
acids and what are amino acids? 

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They're the things that, you 
know, say to your muscles, 

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build, stay around they. 
Are protein in little building 

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blocks? 
And so and so now some foods 

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have an abundant amount and they
are your meat, your fish, your 

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like cottage cheese, your Greek 
yogurt. 

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A pack of tuna. 
It has 3 grams of luchi. 

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OK. 
And so all those I've never. 

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This is the first I've ever 
heard this word. 

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But pea protein and a little 
special expensive plant protein 

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packed with lovely artwork on it
from your local health food. 

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No, does not have 3 grams of. 
Lutein and and it's good protein

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in itself, but it won't protect 
that muscle. 

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So I was back to that thing so 
some woman here OK need protein.

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You know, I'm going to just have
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every meal. 
But once they've lost their lean

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body mass, their muscles are are
are smaller and they're striated

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with fat droplets, right? 
And they're like the. 

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Like the like the marble steak 
that you go eat at a restaurant.

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That's what our muscles are like
post 30. 

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They get more and more like that
every year. 

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More marble marbling with the 
fat. 

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It's just. 
Insulin resistant, even. 

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Skinny woman. 
Yeah, skinny fat. 

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But so then, so then it's like, 
OK, got to get my protein in, 

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you know, I'm going to eat this 
12 ounce steak, you know, and 

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I'm going to have just a bunch 
of meat at every meal. 

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And their muscles are like, hold
on, I can't take you in. 

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Their lean muscle tissue is 
small, so they have small 

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cupboards. 
And so they're like. 

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And that's why we get insulin 
resistance too, OK, post 

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menopause because you know, we 
need cupboards to put that blood

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sugar in. 
And when the cupboards are 

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small, it's our lean muscle 
tissue is small. 

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It's like I can't take in that 
blood sugar and I can't take in 

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those amino acids. 
So our main theme is build back 

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your lean muscle tissue and 
cleanse it, cleanse it from 

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those fatty striations. 
And we have ways of doing that. 

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Yeah, plants. 
Plants cleanse your muscles. 

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But here's the thing. 
And you? 

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Have all this outlined. 
Yeah, but but I don't want 

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people to think, well, I can't 
eat meat. 

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Well, what do I do eat? 
I need protein. 

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I can't eat meat. 
You can. 

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It's just that that 4 to 6 
ounce, that medium amount, 

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that's what your muscles can use
right now. 

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And when you build them back, 
hey, go eat your big steak then.

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You can have more sure. 
OK, because I am a carnivore. 

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I mean I can I can eat more than
my husband can when it comes to 

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meat yes, I can. 
I'm but and we're. 

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All about that we're all about. 
I don't want it to not be my 

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cupboards. 
I don't want marbling. 

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I don't want that. 
I don't want that. 

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No, I, I love what you're 
saying. 

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So what you're saying is you 
need to rebuild your lean 

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muscle. 
What does that look like? 

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I heard resistance, but what 
does resistance look like? 

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Well, Pearl and I used to love 
to walk. 

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We loved it felt like self-care.
We'd listen to podcast like a 

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little Lisa of the year in the 
years, you know, it was it was 

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enjoyment. 
But then we realized we got to 

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listen to those podcasts maybe a
little somewhere else because we

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may not be able to get our walk 
in every day because we're going

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to get in the gym and we're 
going to lift because even. 

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Though, so weight training. 
Weight training and it doesn't 

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even have to be your 
personality. 

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Like Pearl, Princess Pearl, she 
hates the clang of iron. 

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I love the clang of iron. 
Like I just, I feel it in my 

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bones. 
But Pearl's like I don't want 

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to. 
But now she's like, it doesn't 

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matter. 
My future depends on it. 

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My ability to be a burning body 
depends on it. 

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And that's what we want to 
create in your wisdom years, you

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know, once you passed 40 and 
even to learn about it in your 

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30s so that you can be pre 
emptive is to create a burning 

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body through caring about your 
lean muscle tissue. 

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Because that's going to have 
cupboards that say, hey, feed me

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the blood glucose and feed me 
the amino acid. 

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But I mean, and you know, she's 
the person that loves it. 

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I'm the person that hated it, 
right? 

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But I realized after menopause, 
well, where's my lean muscle? 

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It's gone. 
My, my genes are hanging. 

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I got an A face. 
I got nothing here, you know, 

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and you're looking fragile. 
You know, I, no, I'm, I'm 

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identifying with with, I'm 
identify with Princess Pearl. 

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I'm identifying want. 
To do it because I'm just let me

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walk. 
Walking's great for me. 

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No, it's good for my brain. 
I love it. 

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And then I realized, but I'm not
putting on muscle. 

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And then I researched and it's 
like, what puts on muscle? 

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Well, there's only one thing. 
You got to lift weights, baby. 

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Yeah, and that's what. 
Helps with the bone. 

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Because you need weight on your 
bones. 

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But they actually say obesity 
doesn't actually do that. 

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It does not. 
Yeah. 

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So gaining weight is not going 
to make stronger bone to gain. 

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And so you know what I started, 
I started so small, I mean 

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little. 
I kind of started with Barbie 

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weights. 
That's all I could do, you know,

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And, and then like just 10 
minutes. 

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I, I got to 20 minutes. 
I do 25 minutes three times a 

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week. 
I have built an entire new body 

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I can. 
Wow. 

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I can eat lots of calories. 
She. 

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Even gets tiramisu out, you know
I mean. 

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As she should. 
As. 

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She should. 
I'm healthy, but I, you know, 11

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meal doesn't throw me off. 
I'm not insulin resistance 

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anymore. 
It's so powerful and it is so 

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incredible and it's so. 
Doable. 

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So what I'm actually hearing is 
where most women have this 

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mindset that I need to punish my
body. 

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My body does not look good 
anymore. 

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My body is not performing well 
anymore. 

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I need to punish it. 
I need to, I need to lift 

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weights to get what I hear is I 
need to love it. 

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I I need to rebuild it. 
I need to, I need to restore it.

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It's what I'm I'm hearing from 
you. 

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It's totally what you're hearing
because we are not saying anyone

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has to or you have to. 
You have to start doing this 

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because you're this age now. 
That's awful. 

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But why is it that women have 
such a hard time loving their 

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bodies? 
Well, that could be. 

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I know that there could be. 15 
points. 

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But if we can't, if we can't get
to some of this at least. 

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Because when I was, when I was 
working on my last book, I, I 

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had such a revelation that women
do not believe that their bodies

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are fearfully and wonderfully 
made. 

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Except for maybe during 
childbirth. 

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They're like, that was fearful 
and wonderful, but men have 

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absolutely no problem thinking 
their bodies are fearfully and 

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wonderfully made. 
My husband's like, can you even 

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believe it? 
Can you even believe I look? 

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This way, you know, I think 
it's, I think it's a good and a 

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bad because I think men are less
self aware and we woman, we're, 

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we're blessed, but we're cursed 
with being so self aware. 

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And I think that's why on the 
whole, we're more interested 

451
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,520
than our husbands. 
It's not always this way in 

452
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,160
well, healthy eating and things 
like that. 

453
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,640
But then, you know, life gets 
busy, we get stressed, everyone 

454
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,440
falls off the wagon. 
But you know, even as health 

455
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,560
authors and we've done, we've 
worked with hundreds of 

456
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,080
thousands of women for the last 
10 years. 

457
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,800
And at first we're all about, 
Hey, this will help you get 

458
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,800
lighter. 
You know, you'll lose weight. 

459
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,680
We're not even about that 
anymore. 

460
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,160
We're not about taking something
off you. 

461
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:42,960
We're about building something 
into you. 

462
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,720
And when your whole mindset 
changes from lighter to 

463
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,040
stronger, weight takes care of 
itself. 

464
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,440
Or having to lose weight to I'm 
creating a burning body. 

465
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,880
Yeah, there is. 
Your trim isn't about skinny. 

466
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,760
You're not. 
And if there is excess 

467
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,320
inflammatory weight, because 
we're not about these skinny 

468
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,000
minis, but inflammatory weight 
because that's unhealthy, it 

469
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,400
will happen as you get stronger,
as you create this burning body,

470
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,840
which is a it's just a fun, 
exciting journey because you're 

471
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,960
not focusing on on weight loss. 
That will happen. 

472
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,280
That excess inflammatory weight 
will just fall off and it'll be 

473
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,400
like, oh, oh, it's gone, but it 
wasn't your focus. 

474
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,760
And but back to that have to no 
have to is that's just a sad 

475
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,280
mindset because it's the get to.
I mean, you think of the fact 

476
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,280
that I get to go in the gym. 
I I mean, I have a few weights 

477
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,800
at home, so I don't like, I'm 
not going and, you know, having 

478
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,480
to drive 45 minutes and then, 
you know, get ready and then 

479
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,760
drive back. 
It's not a big deal to me. 

480
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,360
I just get in my own little home
gym. 

481
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,720
But I get to what an honor, what
a privilege. 

482
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,920
I mean, you ask somebody in a 
wheelchair, hey, like you could 

483
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,280
tonight, Can you imagine if you 
got the chance to go to a Zumba 

484
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,320
and just let loose and have fun,
like move your body? 

485
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,600
They'll be like, if I could ever
get the chance again. 

486
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,440
Like the fact that we get to 
what an honour to move our 

487
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,720
God-given bodies. 
I mean, it's just, it's 

488
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,960
incredible. 
If there's no have to about it, 

489
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,440
it's a lens change. 
Yeah, and it is a lens change 

490
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,920
because when the Bible says 
present your body, a living 

491
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,120
sacrifice, holy and acceptable 
to God, I think most women see 

492
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:18,760
their bodies as holy, WHOLLY 
unacceptable. 

493
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,880
Like it's either not strong 
enough, not thin enough, not 

494
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,840
pretty enough, not young enough.
So there's a constant 

495
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:31,040
unacceptable, and yet God is 
calling our bodies holy and 

496
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,080
acceptable. 
So what I'm hearing from is when

497
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:40,000
I have been given something that
is holy and acceptable, I need 

498
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,360
to treat it like that. 
Too much is given, much is 

499
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:44,680
required. 
Absolutely, Absolutely. 

500
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,000
You know, it was it Paul who 
said, you know, I would, that 

501
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,240
you'd be in health. 
Just as your soul prospers, you 

502
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,280
know your body will prosper, 
too. 

503
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,400
And I think that we're all on a 
journey, right? 

504
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,400
You know, finding, finding our 
peace, finding our faith, 

505
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,400
finding our hope and our 
creator, you know, day by day. 

506
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,000
But I think sometimes we 
completely separate that from 

507
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,800
our physical selves. 
But we're in this tent. 

508
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,960
And I look at it like, Hey, this
work that's been done on my 

509
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,600
inside, I want to kind of 
represent too, you know, I want 

510
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,680
to be strong as my soul gets 
strong. 

511
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,320
I want them to go on this path 
together rather than, you know, 

512
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,920
am I enough? 
Am I? 

513
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,360
Do I, am I skinny enough? 
Am I beautiful enough? 

514
00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:27,840
Am I, you know, am I young 
enough? 

515
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,320
I'm not young enough. 
I'm not all those things. 

516
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,640
But am I representing life? 
Am I representing this feeling 

517
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,760
of vitality that I have in my 
inner man? 

518
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,360
Is the world seeing it on this 
billboard? 

519
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:43,400
It doesn't have to look size 2 
or size 0 or size whatever. 

520
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,720
It doesn't have to look 
perfectly airbrushed. 

521
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,400
But does it exude life? 
Does it look strong? 

522
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,240
Does it look healthy? 
And I do think people are 

523
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,280
looking for more and more of the
genuine. 

524
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,560
And I think we're all realizing.
And, you know, again, I'm not 

525
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,880
trying to shame our government, 
but I mean, hey, there's a 

526
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,560
reason why all the people have 
said we want to see America 

527
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,640
healthy again, Like we want to 
make America healthy again. 

528
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:12,320
And they've realized that there 
has been a push to a debasing of

529
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,320
the American health with what we
eat and what we experience in 

530
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,280
our environment and and what 
we're constantly being told, you

531
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,440
know, fear and stress and you're
never good enough. 

532
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,000
You're never this enough. 
So I love that you're actually 

533
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,320
saying I'm going to give you 
wisdom because we have tons of 

534
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,000
knowledge. 
We don't, you know, there's, 

535
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,120
there's so much knowledge on the
Internet. 

536
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:36,840
I know. 
But we have so little 

537
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,840
transformation because people 
don't have wisdom. 

538
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,000
So I love that you've got trim 
healthy wisdom. 

539
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,320
OK, so now you you guys know 
that one of my most popular 

540
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,360
podcast last season was about 
sex over 60. 

541
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:52,160
What's our favorite subject? 
Yeah. 

542
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,280
So let's talk about this because
this is an area that is under 

543
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,040
attack. 
It is this is an area that is 

544
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,560
sacred. 
And I think that the church does

545
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,040
not talk about it. 
It either talks about it in a, 

546
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,560
you know, shameful way that it's
shameful and shut it down, or it

547
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,160
talks about it in a perverse 
way. 

548
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,040
And so I, I want you guys to 
talk to that woman that right 

549
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,360
now is out there and she's like,
I, I feel so unattractive. 

550
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,120
I feel so undesirable. 
I, this is a part of my life 

551
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:28,320
that's completely shut down and 
it's actually robbing her and 

552
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,000
her husband. 
Like how does she go from this 

553
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,520
place of being sexually shut 
down to be coming back alive 

554
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,280
again? 
Like what is that process? 

555
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,320
I know it probably starts in her
head, but take, take her on that

556
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,480
journey because I, I have, I 
have all of these different feed

557
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,880
books. 
I have every I have people 

558
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,200
saying I want to have sex but my
husband doesn't want to have sex

559
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,440
with me. 
Yeah, I want to talk about that 

560
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,240
today. 
And I and then I have women that

561
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,920
say my husband wants to have 
sex, but I don't want to have 

562
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,200
sex with him. 
And then my husband, you know, 

563
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,680
we are never intimate. 
And now I'm catching him on 

564
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,680
porn. 
You know, I'm hearing all of 

565
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,760
these different things. 
People are living in fear and 

566
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,480
shame and isolation with some of
these struggles. 

567
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,760
Yeah. 
It's so true and I think we were

568
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,440
talking on the way here as we're
driving here. 

569
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,080
You know, we we love that 
podcast that you did sex over 60

570
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,360
because and you talked something
about it was you said that the 

571
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:23,760
different tangents that the 
extremes and you mentioned toxic

572
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,640
purity too. 
Because nobody had ever said it 

573
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,760
just like that. 
And I loved it. 

574
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,840
Because they're either extreme 
is dangerous, yes. 

575
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,800
It's extremely dangerous, yes. 
Yeah. 

576
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,040
And so I because. 
Purity could never be toxic if 

577
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,880
it's taught right. 
Yeah, exactly. 

578
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,280
Like right, right. 
So I mean, yes. 

579
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,080
And, and we hear this same thing
from woman too. 

580
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,600
I, I have to say it's a big 
thing. 

581
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,200
We're all very different. 
But I talked to women who, you 

582
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,080
know, maybe they've been married
20-30 years and they're like 

583
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,160
Pearl. 
I would love to feel passion for

584
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,800
my husband. 
I would love to feel a libido, a

585
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,200
sexual desire. 
It's gone and I can't even find 

586
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:04,720
it. 
You know it's. 

587
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,680
Almost like, yeah, you actually 
said if I can be personal, when 

588
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,480
when her hormones totally went 
out of her, she's like, why 

589
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,680
would people do that? 
Like. 

590
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,920
Like I was always, you know, my 
husband and I've been married 

591
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,960
for 31 years and we, we had, we 
had intimacy, but I couldn't 

592
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,280
understand when my hormones left
me. 

593
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,720
You know, I mean, we're just 
going to say it on this podcast.

594
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,920
The vagina dries up for many 
women and it can even hurt. 

595
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,600
You don't feel like you used to 
as a young woman. 

596
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,760
Like you said, you don't feel 
lush. 

597
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:43,400
My brain space told me I was a a
dried up woman who whose youth 

598
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,200
had left her. 
And she just needs to do more 

599
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,600
Bible studies. 
Yeah, not Bible studies 

600
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,760
admitting for me, you know, and 
and yet I still loved. 

601
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:57,040
I loved that closeness. 
I didn't need the intimacy and 

602
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,160
it wasn't psychological. 
I don't have trauma in my past. 

603
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,560
I don't I, you know, we don't, 
we haven't had history of porn, 

604
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,360
all those things. 
It was for me, it was just my 

605
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,160
hormones and so for me. 
You're saying there was pain? 

606
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,000
Yes, it was because like 
sandpaper. 

607
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,160
I have had, I have had a a woman
tell me why are we not? 

608
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,800
I mean, we were away at an event
and she said, I need to tell you

609
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,280
something. 
She said I went through, you 

610
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,720
know, after after I went through
menopause, a period where I 

611
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,920
could not, I could not because 
of the pain. 

612
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,880
And she said, why is nobody 
talking about this? 

613
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,240
And she said when I got on 
bioidenticals, everything 

614
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,320
changed. 
She said, why did? 

615
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,120
And she said, do you know how 
hard that was on my marriage? 

616
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,760
On your husband, yes. 
And it's saying your husband 

617
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,200
doesn't want to hurt you and the
last thing he wants to do is 

618
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,360
say, come on, have sex. 
And the same thing you said. 

619
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,600
There are many, you know, women,
they're saying they would love 

620
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,720
to have sex with their husbands,
but their husband has lost 

621
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,080
desire. 
Or he's saying Ed, that there's 

622
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,360
a there's an epidemic of type 2 
diabetes, blood sugar, insulin 

623
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,880
resistance with men and and it's
causing Ed and that's hard for 

624
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,480
him. 
It's hard for his wife. 

625
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,600
Yeah. 
So many couples over 40 are 

626
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,040
going through a tough time. 
Physics. 

627
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,480
Sadly, testosterone these days, 
they're saying it's like on the 

628
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,360
decline. 
Like the 20 year old men have 

629
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,320
the testosterone levels of the 
65 year old man from from years 

630
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,600
past. 
And that's going back to what 

631
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,040
you, we were talking about this 
whole nation, we've been riddled

632
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,200
with toxins, with plastics and 
all those things. 

633
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,480
And, and I'm glad there's a 
change coming. 

634
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,400
I think it's time because it is 
evident in in the hormones of 

635
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,040
our young. 
People and I just want to say, 

636
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,680
you know, you know that script 
she just brought up just a 

637
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,520
little while ago and you're 
like, beloved, I wish that you 

638
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,240
would prosper and be in good 
health even as your soul 

639
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,040
prospers. 
The Bible wasn't written just 

640
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,960
for the days of yore. 
It was written for 2025 and 

641
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,960
beyond and beyond and beyond. 
God's word is ever the right 

642
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,400
time right. 
So he he there is a way for us 

643
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,240
to be in good health. 
And I love the fact that I don't

644
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,600
know what was in the earth ages 
ago where Moses could say when 

645
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,920
he was 100 and whatever my bones
are still filled with SAP, you 

646
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,160
know, and Josh my. 
Eyes haven't favored. 

647
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,960
I let give me take, let me take 
the high country now maybe I'm 

648
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,520
stronger than when I was 40, but
God has he always provides for 

649
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,040
whatever season. 
So maybe we're not into this in 

650
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,760
this perfect world with the 
perfect soil and the perfect non

651
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,000
5G atmosphere, but God's. 
Put. 

652
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,560
By identical molecules in nature
in yams in herbs. 

653
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,520
Why did he put them there? 
But I love that other scripture 

654
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,560
in the Bible that says, you 
know, it's a glory. 

655
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,680
It's it's glory of God to 
conceal a matter. 

656
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,640
It's glory of the kings to find 
it out and we're all kings in 

657
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,920
Greece and whatever. 
So I just. 

658
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,720
Think so this beautiful. 
This is the treasure search Well

659
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,040
and it and you know, it's 
interesting. 

660
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,600
John has been in this deep dive 
into all of these books of, you 

661
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,120
know, the prophets and stuff 
that aren't canonized, but 

662
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,840
they're, you know, they're 
written by Ezra. 

663
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,720
And Ezra actually said in the 
last days that there would be 

664
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,040
poisons in the earth, but the 
things that would turn it around

665
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,520
would be herbs. 
You know, he actually said this 

666
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,520
is what's going to go on. 
So God always makes provision 

667
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,000
when the enemy has a scheme. 
God already. 

668
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,960
Has a plan for. 
The nation absolutely and and 

669
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,000
you know, going back to you know
what you were saying, this is 

670
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,280
you. 
How long have you been married? 

671
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,800
I mean. 31 years. 31 years and 
how many years? 

672
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,040
2828 So you're almost, you're 
almost at 60 years right there. 

673
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,880
And then John and I have been 
married for 40. 

674
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,600
Let's see, 43 years. 
So you're listening to women. 

675
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,560
I just want you to hear this 
out. 

676
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,440
You're listening to women who 
who have gone through different 

677
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,640
seasons in their marriage, who 
have raised children. 

678
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,120
You have a grandchild. 
Do you have a grandchild? 

679
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,040
I. 
Have about 9 now. 

680
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,640
You have OK, nine. 
Yeah. 

681
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,440
So just lots, lots. 
We have. 

682
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,120
We have offspring that have an 
offspring. 

683
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,720
We have reproducers, legacies, 
legacies. 

684
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,680
We are populating the earth. 
We are doing our part. 

685
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,920
But. 
But I hope you understand we're 

686
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:01,360
not talking to our season alone.
We're talking to God's people. 

687
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,040
See, the truth is, as yucky as 
stuff is, God has always had a 

688
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,560
Goshen. 
He's always had a people that he

689
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,520
said, hey, I'm not going to 
bring the plagues of Egypt on my

690
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,320
people. 
And you could say that's an Old 

691
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,560
Testament story. 
But see, there's things that you

692
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,280
can grab and say God, I'm 
believing that the diseases and 

693
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,600
the plastics, I mean, every time
on the airplane they bring me a 

694
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,360
squishy airplane bottle. 
I'm like, am I swallowing a 

695
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,520
credit card of microplasics 
right now? 

696
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,560
And I have to be like, you know 
what? 

697
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,440
I'm going to just pray that 
anything the enemy has put into 

698
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,440
my body that it's going to be an
asset. 

699
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,480
Does that mean I always do 
squishy? 

700
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,239
No, no, as much as it is in my 
power, I'm going to take care of

701
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,760
myself. 
So I hope you understand. 

702
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,719
These are women, and the Bible 
commands the older women to 

703
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,719
teach and train the younger 
women how to what do good and 

704
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,440
how to love their husbands. 
And right now I feel like a lot 

705
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,160
of this has been lost. 
And so we want to set you up 

706
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,280
because how do you do good when 
you feel bad? 

707
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,400
How do you How do you love Well 
when you feel awful? 

708
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,240
But let's talk about, you know, 
someone, especially Christian 

709
00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:14,280
woman, there's a sometimes it's 
been like, well, you should have

710
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,480
sex with your husband because 
that's the good thing to. 

711
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,320
It's like a duty. 
Yeah, it's like a duty. 

712
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,080
But you know what it's like 
Serene was saying. 

713
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,560
You know that that person in the
wheelchair getting up and and 

714
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,960
doing Zumba, You know what we. 
It's a privilege. 

715
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,200
Get to and and the health 
benefits from covenant sex we 

716
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,240
research them because. 
We're nerds. 

717
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,400
Well, there's persons like, you 
know, there's, there's there's 

718
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,560
anti health benefits from 
outside. 

719
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,080
Yeah, but but covenant 6 huge 
deal. 

720
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,480
Do you know a husband's semen is
actually like an antidote? 

721
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,800
Well, let's just think it has 
zinc in it has vitamin C, it has

722
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,800
vitamin B12 and the vaginal 
tissue is like absorption beyond

723
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,160
absorption and it goes straight 
into the bloodstream. 

724
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,400
It also has three cancer 
fighting agents. 

725
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,440
It has selenium you know it has 
glycoproteins and a transforming

726
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,480
a better yes. 
I think that I don't forget the 

727
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,720
exact name, but it is amazing 
because it actually turns on our

728
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,720
killer cells. 
Yeah, brings up our music and 

729
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:16,240
it's. 
An anti depressant. 

730
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:17,840
Yeah. 
And it's incredibly mean. 

731
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,680
Our first book was was full of 
these things. 

732
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,920
It's not like we have to. 
We are so blessed. 

733
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,840
It's, it's a gift and, and you 
know, but it's not just 

734
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,240
physicals, like I said, well, 
you know, take care of of that 

735
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,000
problem. 
If there's a dry vagina, you 

736
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,960
don't even if if you're like a 
post breast cancer, there's 

737
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,760
localized hormone creams that 
are, that are fine to use. 

738
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,320
That will work too. 
But it's just incredible because

739
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,840
once you've passed that physical
barrier, there's all those. 

740
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,800
Also the mental thing that we 
talk about, just preparing 

741
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,480
yourself. 
And that can happen to young 

742
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,280
woman, that can happen. 
To women, when you have young 

743
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,000
children, Oh my gosh, yes. 
And they just get married and 

744
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,280
they all of a sudden it's all 
about being maybe the maid 

745
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,520
around the house and being the 
housekeeper and forgetting that 

746
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,640
you're the bride. 
And the bride is not just for 

747
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,880
the wedding night. 
The bride is a continued 

748
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,680
identity. 
That is your main identity once 

749
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,520
you're married. 
You know, I mean, outside of 

750
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,840
daughter of the king and all of 
that. 

751
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,400
But in as far as your 
relationship with your husband, 

752
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,560
because I feel like sometimes we
can get so harried with the 

753
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,080
responsibilities of the home 
that we forget that, you know, 

754
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,880
marking all the school papers or
folding the laundry. 

755
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,840
Hey, that can just go the side 
when there's a a groom waiting 

756
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,080
for you. 
I do feel, I do feel like 

757
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,920
religion, and when I say 
religion, I'm not referring to 

758
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,560
Christianity. 
I'm referring to religion where 

759
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:44,160
it has a depreciation of women, 
where it, it does not appreciate

760
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,000
them other than the use of them.
I do feel like that has stripped

761
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,680
a lot of women of the beauty of 
femininity. 

762
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,960
I, I do feel like there's been a
lot of backlash because women 

763
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,720
have felt like I'm just being 
used. 

764
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,760
I'm not, I'm not adored. 
I'm not a bride. 

765
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,040
I'm, I'm a, I'm a housewife. 
I'm not, I'm not. 

766
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,880
My husband doesn't see me as 
altogether lovely. 

767
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,840
You know, he's not enthralled 
with my beauty. 

768
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,760
He's not. 
I mean, all of the things that 

769
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,640
we how Jesus describes, how he 
sees his bride is the antithesis

770
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:22,080
of what their reality is. 
And so I do feel I do feel that 

771
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,160
sometimes the church has done a 
big disservice. 

772
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,240
You know when it when you're 
when you're a woman and you hear

773
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:33,040
things that are constantly maybe
just an undercurrent of you're a

774
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,000
problem or you need to be silent
or you need to serve your 

775
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,920
husband instead of like really 
actually understanding the 

776
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,160
Scripture spends way more 
emphasis on the husband loving 

777
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,760
his wife like Christ loves the 
church more than the time it 

778
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,200
spends on the woman's response 
to that love. 

779
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,200
It's it's feels like it's the 
enemy constantly tearing apart 

780
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,040
the two that God wants to make 
one. 

781
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,000
I, I agree and I, I believe that
100%. 

782
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,560
And I think there's always that 
flip side to what the enemy is 

783
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,600
trying to do. 
And I feel like the enemy can 

784
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,800
come sometimes come to us woman 
too, with a lens of that just 

785
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:16,120
makes us maybe just forget about
how our tone and our voice, you 

786
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:22,360
know, where our husband can be 
so attracted to us when we, when

787
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,000
we give them that respect, even 
if they don't even deserve that 

788
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,400
respect, But just because they 
hold they're on the other side 

789
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,200
of that marriage contract and 
marriage contract is so holy and

790
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,560
so sacred and they're on the 
other side of that and that 

791
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,480
deserves respect. 
And I feel like that, that 

792
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,160
beautiful life giving tongue 
that we can have, you know, in 

793
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:45,120
our marriage and, and just the 
lens that we get to to bring joy

794
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,880
to a husband. 
Sometimes that internal beauty 

795
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,120
that can come out. 
It's not even like the husband 

796
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,160
is, you know, I think for 
attraction sometimes there can 

797
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,560
be these beautiful models that 
can almost be like unattractive 

798
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,800
because their inside is harsh. 
Well, they haven't had to work 

799
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:01,360
on it. 
Right. 

800
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,600
So when there's that inner 
beauty that shines out, I feel 

801
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,720
like that can be a draw to our 
husbands that. 

802
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,200
Yeah, I mean, in our book we 
talk, you talked about the maid 

803
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,320
like sometimes, sometimes as 
wives. 

804
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,280
And I've been both, right, 
right. 

805
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,720
I've we talk about the maid and 
we talk about the boss when our 

806
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:19,360
identity is the bride. 
I've been the maid where I've 

807
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,440
like, oh, showing my husband 
just all I do and come on, I do 

808
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,360
this and I do that. 
And then the flip side is like 

809
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,280
always being on his page like 
I'm the boss. 

810
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,800
I'm the boss of you, of what you
wear, what you eat, whatever. 

811
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,520
I know best. 
I have been such an I know best 

812
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,840
wife at times. 
I think, I think probably 

813
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,880
everybody has. 
So I. 

814
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,960
But as I'm walking into this 
identity of a bride, I think 

815
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,680
it's really beautiful because 
like you said, you know, a bride

816
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,360
gets served too. 
And I found my husband loves to 

817
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,720
serve me and feels like a hero 
when he does. 

818
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:55,880
And me learning to accept that. 
I think it's so huge for US 

819
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,120
woman just to learn to receive 
and not to do, do, do, do. 

820
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:00,960
Do. 
And we have learnt that as we've

821
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,320
gone along in our marriages 
where we are more wrinkled, you 

822
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,600
know, less, you know, less of 
the beauty of the bloom, but our

823
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,240
husband's being even more 
attractive to us now because 

824
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:15,840
we've learnt to be receivers of 
his love to not complain about, 

825
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,360
oh, that's not a gift. 
Can I take those flowers back 

826
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,880
and get something I really want 
that's practical, you know, just

827
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,000
all of that push back, push back
to their love and just just and 

828
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,560
and maybe having that more harsh
tone, like, oh, you put the 

829
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,600
dishes in this way, you know, 
and it's just that can be a turn

830
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,920
off where that making quiet 
spirit that can woo more 

831
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,680
beautifully than just having the
the perfect young buddy. 

832
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,560
So, you know, that was what I 
would say to a woman. 

833
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,720
It's like, well, I don't feel 
desirable. 

834
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,080
You know, there's that, draw 
that. 

835
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,720
Came down it's a you're saying 
you couldn't cultivate something

836
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,760
in the new season that's 
actually more beautiful than 

837
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,440
something that because I always 
I always said you always look 

838
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,360
your best when you're the 
youngest because that's when 

839
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,880
you're the stupidest like you 
just you're that's all you're 

840
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,920
working with so you better you 
better figure out some ways to 

841
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,200
cultivate some other things. 
You know, I, I, I love what 

842
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,520
you're modeling because I hear a
very different spirit and how 

843
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,560
you guys are saying this then 
even some of the things that I'm

844
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,600
hearing from people who really 
want to help women, but they're 

845
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,680
almost saying we women have our 
rights to enjoy sex. 

846
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,160
We women have our rights to 
hormone men have shut down these

847
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,760
studies. 
That is not the spirit that I'm 

848
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,360
feeling here. 
What I'm hearing is we want you 

849
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:39,040
to have vibrant health, vibrant 
life, vibrant marriage, and you 

850
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,560
know, you are strong women, you 
are women who do things, you are

851
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,400
women who accomplish things. 
And yet you it's obvious you 

852
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,320
believe in honoring men and you 
don't need, and I think our 

853
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,720
culture does not understand, 
that you can value women without

854
00:42:55,720 --> 00:43:00,200
dishonouring and devaluing men. 
It's so good, so needed. 

855
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,960
You know, I love your latest 
book and and you talk about 

856
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,680
this, you know, men have had 
their time lately would have 

857
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,800
been kind of like trampled. 
Yes, yes. 

858
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,840
It's been rough on men and I 
want to on. 

859
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,280
I love men as a species. 
I have sons and a husband and a 

860
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,080
father, and they're a good man 
Yes and and of course, you know,

861
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,720
none of us are perfect, but I 
think you're right. 

862
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,120
We shouldn't come to this with 
now it's our time, hear me roar.

863
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,640
But you know, we have a voice 
and and we're all. 

864
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,840
And we have a superpower. 
And then they have superpowers, 

865
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:34,960
but they're different 
superpowers. 

866
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,840
And I feel like, you know, my 
husband has a superpower. 

867
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,800
He would lay down his life for 
me instinctually. 

868
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,840
You know, I'd have to think 
about it for a while, lay my 

869
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,600
life down for my children. 
But I'd have to think it's 

870
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,720
probably his job to lay down his
life for me. 

871
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:49,880
Like, it wouldn't mentally come 
natural, not as extinctive. 

872
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,400
But I have a superpower. 
I believe in my marriage and I 

873
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,640
believe all of us women do as 
the nurturer, almost the 

874
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,760
thermostat technician of my 
marriage where you know, how 

875
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,160
women we're intellectually we're
we're very, I think advanced 

876
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,520
emotionally, you know, it's a 
superpower. 

877
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,000
We can, we can see when the cold
wars are coming. 

878
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,200
We can feel when things are 
cooling off, You know, we get 

879
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,160
the nuances and the hints, you 
know, and I feel like we can be 

880
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,760
the nurturers of the marriage 
that, that nurtures that 

881
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,520
atmosphere and brings that the 
sweetness to the environment. 

882
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,440
And then I can let my husband 
have his superpower of, of 

883
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,680
leading and, and all of that. 
And it's just because we have 

884
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,800
our own roles and it feels 
special because he can be on 

885
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,960
that role and I can be on mine 
and they don't clash. 

886
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,040
No, they shouldn't. 
And you know what's it as the 

887
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,280
proverb that says a wise woman 
builds a home, But he he didn't 

888
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,200
say it. 
Yeah, even say a wise man builds

889
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,400
the home. 
So it is this superpower we we 

890
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,160
have been gifted with with it, 
whether we want it or not, 

891
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,520
whether we think, well, that's 
not fair. 

892
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,240
He should build the home too. 
But, and where is this thing 

893
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:54,040
coming from? 
Because I don't know if you've 

894
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,560
seen this. 
And I want, I want to circle 

895
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,320
back around one thing that you 
said after I say this, they're 

896
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,640
you probably have seen this, but
they're calling it the 

897
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,840
Michelangelo effect. 
Have you heard of this? 

898
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,360
OK, so they said the best 
marriages have the Michelangelo 

899
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,560
effect. 
And I thought, how interesting. 

900
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,600
What is that? 
And it's one person sculpting 

901
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:18,000
the other the best way, like 
setting them up in the best 

902
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,840
light, saying I'm going to, I'm 
going to you, you're just a 

903
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,680
block of stone. 
But I'm I see that David inside 

904
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,920
of you like, and John and I 
always say a good marriage is 2 

905
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,720
people committed to bringing out
the best in one another, not 

906
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:35,560
besting one another, not winning
arguments, not saying I'm right 

907
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,760
and you're wrong, but saying I 
see you here. 

908
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,520
And, and this is what I see and,
and like, and I've even had 

909
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,080
conversations talking about 
emotional, you know, awareness. 

910
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,120
My husband picks up things that 
I miss in certain areas. 

911
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,360
But when it comes to emotional 
intelligence, that would not be 

912
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,800
his superpower. 
You know, he's not stupid. 

913
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,360
He's but, but that's not a 
superpower. 

914
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,240
And so sometimes he'll have a 
response to something that I 

915
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:06,840
will know that he's, he's, he's 
having a rough time with how 

916
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,960
he's responding to something. 
And so I, as his wife, have to 

917
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,560
reframe it and say, listen, I, I
know what you're hearing, but 

918
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,960
let me help you understand what 
was actually being said so that 

919
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,240
you don't have a reaction to 
this that is disproportionate 

920
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,560
to, you know, what actually was 
said because he's processing it 

921
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:29,440
in one way and then I can 
process it another way. 

922
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,760
So I think that that is such a 
beautiful thing that I love the 

923
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,480
whole idea. 
Like my husband is, is a 

924
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,320
masterpiece. 
And so I want to, I want to 

925
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,800
paint him the best. 
I want to talk well about him. 

926
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,600
I want to, I want to use my 
superpower to sculpt him and not

927
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,440
nag him, not change him, but 
sculpt him. 

928
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,680
And it's two people reflecting 
one another in the best. 

929
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,560
Life. 
I feel like it's also sculpting 

930
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,400
him in your own mind. 
Yes, because we can. 

931
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,800
It's got to happen. 
There first so blessed I've got 

932
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,120
the best husband in the world in
one hour by what I sculpt in my 

933
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,000
brain yes or I can sculpt a 
monster and want to leave them 

934
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,480
in one hour of just just 
whatever art form I'm. 

935
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,000
Calling them. 
But it's like, it's like what we

936
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:18,800
think about is so important. 
And another thing I wanted to 

937
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,120
say about our superpowers as 
women of being nurturers, which 

938
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,480
is building. 
When you nurture something, 

939
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,440
you're just you're building. 
It's protecting what's 

940
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,440
vulnerable. 
Yes, in the song of Solomon's 

941
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,000
Where it's actually throw into 
the bride where the groom says, 

942
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,280
hey, catch the little foxes for 
us, those little foxes that 

943
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,120
spoil the vine. 
That was not given to the groom.

944
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:45,720
The groom gave that to us. 
And I feel like it's our job to 

945
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,920
to, you know, be the nurturer, 
that thermostat technician, 

946
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,400
that's the one that, you know, 
just doesn't take every offense 

947
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,080
that tries to, you know, sculpt 
it in the right way. 

948
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,200
In our mind, we were like, you 
know what? 

949
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,800
You know, those were really 
harsh words. 

950
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,280
But but I know his heart because
we're catching that fox. 

951
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,040
We're catching those foxes of 
the list of wrongs. 

952
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,080
Yes. 
Yeah, OK. 

953
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,000
So you mentioned about the 
superpower of having a sacred 

954
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,560
intimacy and then the 
destructive power. 

955
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,400
I mean, we've, you've probably 
have seen the, the young girl 

956
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,080
that said I'm going to have sex 
with over 100 men in a less than

957
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,200
a 24 hour period. 
Did you see that was a British 

958
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,240
girl? 
She was not on social. 

959
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,880
Media. 
Well, no, it was a drink. 

960
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,560
It wasn't. 
Yeah, it wasn't even on. 

961
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,200
It wasn't Even so much on 
social. 

962
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,000
It was on the news. 
And so it was. 

963
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:37,160
Yeah, so she was, I think 
whatever it is, only only fans 

964
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,520
or whatever star. 
And she hired over 100 plus men.

965
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,200
I mean, they well, she made 
herself available and now her 

966
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:52,400
goal is to sleep with 1000 and 
the the brokenness that comes 

967
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,560
from something like that. 
And so I watched her interact 

968
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,960
with somebody and at the end of 
it she actually was crying. 

969
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,560
But but then she was like, now 
I'm going to go for 1000. 

970
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,120
What does that do to her body? 
Yeah, You know, we talked about 

971
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,880
covenant sex and the blessings 
and the whole benefits. 

972
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,120
But it's, it's I feel, I feel 
for her. 

973
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:18,880
I feel for her body because, you
know, women have a vaginal Biome

974
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:24,120
like we have a gut Biome. 
And that vaginal Biome actually 

975
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:30,240
adjusts itself to a man and to 
his semen and to one man. 

976
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,520
And it's really interesting, the
science of it. 

977
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,880
And when there is multiple men, 
there is disarray in the body 

978
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,200
and the vaginal Biome becomes 
undone. 

979
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,440
And that affects our whole 
immune system, sex and 

980
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,560
emotional, yes, our mental 
health. 

981
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,320
Of course. 
You know, we learn that 90% of 

982
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,560
serotonin is made in the gut 
because there's a Biome. 

983
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,560
But so much is made in other 
parts of our body that we think 

984
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,720
it's all mental. 
It's coming from all these parts

985
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:01,920
of our body. 
And and also, you know, in 

986
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,800
covenant sex, there is that that
intimacy where it's not just 

987
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,200
about sex, it's about union of 
soul. 

988
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,720
And then oxytocin hormone, that 
bonding hormone is is in there. 

989
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:15,000
And for men it does rise a 
little bit. 

990
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,240
For woman you get a 5 fold 
increase while oxytocin. 

991
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:23,720
So that is a special, you know, 
stress busting gift just for 

992
00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:26,160
woman in married sex. 
Yeah, that's covenant sex. 

993
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,560
So because the oxytocin is 
really not there at outside of 

994
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,640
covenant because there's not the
protection. 

995
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,240
How interesting. 
And you know, they, they did the

996
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:37,480
study about how in married sex, 
it didn't actually didn't 

997
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,320
compute with people outside of 
of of the covenant sex. 

998
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,320
But in married 6 people that had
a you know, an average of like 4

999
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:49,360
times a week that's 200 * a year
had were given I think. 

1000
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:54,320
Six years, yeah, 7 Seven years 
of longevity on average. 

1001
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,560
On and, and the, and the doctor 
was saying that he thought it 

1002
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,160
was not just because of the, you
know, the oxytocin in the DHEA 

1003
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,600
rise just before orgasm and 
things like that. 

1004
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,600
He said it. 
It was a mental component, a 

1005
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,560
spiritual component that he 
believed was part of that too. 

1006
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,360
But I think, you know, talking, 
I'm sorry, I'm just going to 

1007
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,000
talk about this, you know, 
contending for for married sex. 

1008
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,800
When you hear about things like 
that and that poor young woman, 

1009
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,240
you know what she's doing to 
herself mentally visit 

1010
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:26,240
physically. 
I feel like as Christian woman, 

1011
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:29,760
as three older woman, I guess, 
you know, I want to talk about 

1012
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,400
contending as we get older for 
this such a beautiful part of 

1013
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,840
our marriage because I feel as 
Christians, those of us that 

1014
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,760
have faith, we really should and
can have the best, most exciting

1015
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,000
sex lives. 
And that could be more holy than

1016
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,240
some of the things that we feel 
like is so holy. 

1017
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,760
Yeah. 
You know what I'm saying? 

1018
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,240
Talk about what you were telling
me in the car. 

1019
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:55,440
I felt like, no, this is just 
between me and you. 

1020
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,840
Serene. 
I'm like you. 

1021
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,520
Gotta bring it If you ever 
talking on the podcast, you 

1022
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,160
gotta bring this you. 
Can edit it out. 

1023
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,640
Listen, it's just it was a kind 
of a bad moment in my mind. 

1024
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,360
It was kind of a bit of a judgy 
moment, maybe because I didn't 

1025
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,160
know these woman. 
But, you know, I'm coming into 

1026
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,080
this 31st year of my marriage 
with my husband, and I'm 

1027
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,000
contending for this because 
we've gone through things. 

1028
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,800
You know, he's 15 years older 
than I am. 

1029
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,440
I went through menopause. 
He went through physical issues.

1030
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,480
Sex doesn't just keep happening 
in America. 

1031
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,280
It has to be intentional. 
Sometimes we have to amend the 

1032
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,760
soil of our physical bodies. 
We have to, you know, we have to

1033
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,560
keep ourselves in a, in just 
honor our bodies to keep it 

1034
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,800
going. 
Otherwise it stops. 

1035
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,560
And then that beautiful union is
gone. 

1036
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,360
But I was on a cruise ship and 
it was kind of like one of those

1037
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,960
real cheapo cruise ships. 
You know, everyone's like beer 

1038
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,320
and cigarettes. 
I was kind of walking around and

1039
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,680
then I, I noticed, Oh my 
goodness, sorry, I can't believe

1040
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,240
you're making me say this. 
I noticed this group of of 

1041
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:58,120
little ladies, you know, and 
they were in a corner and they 

1042
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,880
had their Bibles out. 
You said they were. 

1043
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,880
They were, you know, really. 
Frumpy. 

1044
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,040
Oh, they were. 
Frumpy man and unhealthy. 

1045
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,600
Yeah, they didn't look healthy. 
They weren't trying to be 

1046
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,200
attractive. 
One out. 

1047
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,960
They were trying to be holy. 
They were trying to they. 

1048
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,880
Were so holy they asked me you 
know, would you want it because 

1049
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,080
usually the I've been on lots of
cruise ships you go into a 

1050
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,160
little Bible study area that's 
often I've been to Bible studies

1051
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,040
on cruise ships they said oh you
want to sit down you. 

1052
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,960
Know we're not against Bible. 
Converting me. 

1053
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,200
They were converting me because 
they didn't know who I was to 

1054
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,640
out their little Bible study. 
And I said, Oh no, I'm on my way

1055
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,720
to my cab and you know, I'm 
going to go see my husband. 

1056
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:35,880
Thanks though, you know, and I 
thought to myself, but I don't 

1057
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,200
think that those women they're 
being so holy, but I'm like, I 

1058
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,560
don't want to join their non, 
their holy non sex drive club. 

1059
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,680
I don't want to and and and that
was my judgement. 

1060
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,080
I'm saying they they're being 
it's easy for them to be holy. 

1061
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,200
They've got no sex drive, But I 
just wanted to separate myself 

1062
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,120
from that. 
I still want to be a Christian. 

1063
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,640
I still want to love God, but I 
want to sex drive. 

1064
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,080
I want that for my marriage and 
I want to contend for that. 

1065
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,560
You know, I, we're blessed. 
Our, our parents are in their 

1066
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,240
80s and they're open about how 
much they love each other and 

1067
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:15,880
they still get it on. 
OK, They're in their 80s. 

1068
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,640
Their parents before them, my 
grandparents, they were all over

1069
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,080
each other. 
And, and you know what, it's 

1070
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,920
beautiful. 
And, and these days we tell 

1071
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,600
children, be pure, stay pure. 
Don't have sex before you're 

1072
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,040
married. 
But they see so many. 

1073
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,600
Parents non electric marriages 
lived out before like. 

1074
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,040
I better, I better do something 
now or I'm gonna see nothing in 

1075
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,200
my future, right? 
Why do they want that? 

1076
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,400
Well, it's like I've got to have
my fun now, but. 

1077
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,280
I feel like the best education 
we can give our children is an 

1078
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,840
electric marriage. 
And it doesn't have to be like R

1079
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,040
rated in front of them, but a 
look in the eye like, you know, 

1080
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,920
to each other across the dinner 
table that they know what we're 

1081
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,560
thinking. 
We can't wait for that dinner to

1082
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,880
end so we can go upstairs. 
That's important for them to 

1083
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,120
see. 
Yeah, so, you know, I just 

1084
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,320
divulge my judgy moment. 
But it's it's really important 

1085
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,480
to me. 
It's what I'm contending for. 

1086
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:10,760
Because we think that is holy, 
that is service to, to serve. 

1087
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,840
It's not just serving our 
husband, which I think is 

1088
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,760
beautiful because I'm all about 
that. 

1089
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,720
I don't want to be like so like 
feministic that it's just turned

1090
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:22,200
back now to all about us. 
Because I, I'm into serving my 

1091
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:27,280
husband, but it's about serving 
US the unity, the union, the 

1092
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:32,640
relationship, the togetherness. 
And I think that is, I mean, God

1093
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,680
put a whole book in the Bible 
about it, right? 

1094
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,200
He did. 
And I also think you see that 

1095
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,280
Sarah was beautiful and that, 
you know, Rebecca was beautiful.

1096
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,720
I mean that these men are like, 
hey, take them in the harem. 

1097
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:46,040
They weren't looking like the 
women on the cruise ship. 

1098
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,800
We'd need to have permission to 
not feel like, oh, if you're 

1099
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,440
attractive, then you're going to
cause men to stumble or if 

1100
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,440
you're attractive, then you're 
immodest or if you're slender, 

1101
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,760
then you have something out of 
order in your life and you 

1102
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,640
should be fat and wearing Spanx 
and then that would be healthy. 

1103
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,040
Like what? 
Why? 

1104
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,960
Like why can we not be vibrant 
and healthy and strong? 

1105
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,200
And and so I, I understand your 
feelings on that because it 

1106
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,880
literally they were. 
Talking about it, right? 

1107
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,960
We're not going around saying 
this, but maybe no, and we're 

1108
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,400
not shaming anyone, but it was 
the. 

1109
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,040
Same people that were like women
aren't allowed to speak, but 

1110
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,680
there's obviously gluttony, you 
know, And I'm like, what is 

1111
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,520
going on? 
There's something out of order 

1112
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:34,400
and what I hear with this is 
that you want to have holistic 

1113
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,880
health. 
So in your marriage and and 

1114
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:42,200
again, serving in in that area 
of marriage, whether it is how 

1115
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,840
you speak to your spouse or how 
you prepare a dinner or how you 

1116
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,760
clean up after dinner or how you
speak to each other. 

1117
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,960
The the tone of constantly in 
front of other people. 

1118
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,920
Or how you don't clean up after 
dinner, leave it till morning 

1119
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,720
because you should just do some 
more fiery things. 

1120
00:56:58,880 --> 00:56:59,640
Feisty. 
There we go. 

1121
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,320
Not feisty, might be feisty. 
Yeah, you said electric. 

1122
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,240
I think electric electric was 
capturing. 

1123
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:07,080
It go through the facade. 
Yeah, and no, that's the. 

1124
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,400
But before we end, can I? 
I do want this. 

1125
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,400
There's so many women listening,
I think that are saying but, but

1126
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,080
I want that. 
But my husband doesn't seem to. 

1127
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,640
You hear it right. 
I hear it. 

1128
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,480
I do. 
And I think there's a lot of 

1129
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,440
women in turmoil. 
And you know what they really 

1130
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:26,040
get hurt by When the church says
to them, men want it all day, 

1131
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,320
every day, and they think about 
sex every second. 

1132
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,040
And women don't. 
And we're so different like 

1133
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,480
that. 
And they're like, that's the 

1134
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,800
opposite of my marriage. 
I want intimacy. 

1135
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,960
And my husband's barely looking 
at me. 

1136
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:38,960
And there's many reasons for 
that. 

1137
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,240
Of course there's porn, but 
sometimes it's not porn. 

1138
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,240
Sometimes men are going through 
hardships in their physical 

1139
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,000
bodies and like like they. 
They feel it harder for them to 

1140
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,520
talk about that, I think, 
because their ego, their 

1141
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,680
confidence and there's shame 
about it. 

1142
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,600
That's just like, I'm not a man 
if I have Ed, I'm not a man if I

1143
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,840
don't feel drive. 
Yeah, and, and so we have a lot 

1144
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,800
of resources in our book, you 
know, to help men too because. 

1145
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:05,840
There's two people in that 
equation. 

1146
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,200
There's two. 
People and and it's hard it's 

1147
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,280
brutal for marriages and I think
you know sometimes it's just all

1148
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,320
all about the woman but men are 
going through these things too 

1149
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,920
and I just I our heart our 
passion is to restore this in 

1150
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,640
marriages no matter what it's 
never too late you know what 

1151
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,560
there's even penile implants out
there now that men that. 

1152
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,200
We went there, OK. 
Wow, you know, well, I'm I think

1153
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,840
that needs to be talked about 
because because some in prostate

1154
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,640
cancer, many men are never a 
never able to use that function 

1155
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,160
again. 
It can be venous leaks, they are

1156
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,800
all reasons. 
Accidents and then this union is

1157
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,720
just suddenly stopped and it and
it can be traumatic for both 

1158
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,480
husband and wife. 
And you know, we give resources 

1159
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,040
in the book. 
I just think sometimes it's just

1160
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,280
obviously there's no way right. 
And then it's just a beautiful 

1161
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,560
love and and I just honor that. 
But if there's a way, this whole

1162
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,760
marriage thing, that's what sets
it apart. 

1163
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,400
And so I think contending for 
it, talking about it, I just 

1164
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,480
think it's time. 
I love that and I love that you 

1165
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:12,360
went all the way from hormones 
and health and but you have like

1166
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,640
micro needling, you have 
everything in here. 

1167
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,920
So you have about physical 
beauty, you have about 

1168
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,360
relational beauty. 
I feel like all of this is 

1169
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,320
encapsulated in a way where 
somebody can say, Oh, wow, OK. 

1170
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,920
And I do feel like Christian 
women, like I get, I get all 

1171
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,000
sorts of opinions and you know, 
people when I decided to grow my

1172
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,480
hair out Gray just because 
mainly I'm lazy people, people 

1173
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,040
were like, you've just let 
yourself go. 

1174
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:37,800
You, you know, used to be 
attractive. 

1175
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,920
Why don't you call your hair? 
You've just let yourself go or 

1176
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,440
they'll say things like, well, 
your face looks good, but your 

1177
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,360
real age shows on your neck and,
and no, no, no, no, it's OK, 

1178
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,360
It's OK. 
And I, I, I just wrote back, I 

1179
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:54,760
said, Hey, I'm 65 this this June
and I love my neck and I love my

1180
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,240
9 grandkids and I love my 
husband and I love this. 

1181
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,600
And so then I got to get a 
chance to do Michael Needling 

1182
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,400
and people are like, are you 
doing that because people said 

1183
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,880
about your neck? 
No, you know, I, I just thought.

1184
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,560
Why not, you know, if somebody 
was like, you can do this and 

1185
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,080
it's healthy, I thought, I want 
to, I want to take as good care 

1186
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,760
and I get to choose. 
I get to choose whether I want 

1187
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,120
to wear makeup or don't wear. 
Makeup. 

1188
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,120
Why not restore color in your 
skin, right? 

1189
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,880
Why not? 
Your hair looks amazing. 

1190
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,800
I've never seen you look more 
beautiful. 

1191
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,480
And we get horrible comments all
the time too. 

1192
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,440
Just people on social media. 
Just free rein. 

1193
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,080
Free rein. 
Well, I'm so thankful for your 

1194
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,120
book and I want to give you an 
opportunity to speak directly to

1195
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,160
the camera and to the women out 
there that are maybe feeling 

1196
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:43,160
hopeless or don't know they have
permission to just, if you can 

1197
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,840
just tell them that. 
Well, I would like to say that 

1198
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,200
if you're afraid, if you feel 
like you're over the hill, if 

1199
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,200
you feel like there is just no 
hope for you, or if you've seen 

1200
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,800
in your family, you know, the 
devastation of disease of, of, 

1201
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,280
of cancer. 
And you're like, I'm on that 

1202
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,120
gangplank, I'm walking there and
I just don't have hope in my 

1203
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,720
life anymore. 
There is so much hope and there 

1204
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,760
are answers and they're not 
difficult and they're not 

1205
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,720
expensive and there are little 
steps you can take and there are

1206
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,560
other choices that you may not 
want to make, but you know, you 

1207
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,520
could look into it. 
That would that are just going 

1208
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:20,960
to bring so much room for your 
future for for a light to shine 

1209
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,400
in it and for strength and for 
beauty for relationships and for

1210
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:31,680
you to feel joy not just in in 
your internal inner man, but in 

1211
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,240
yourself. 
You know, because of health is 

1212
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,880
health is just zinging forth. 
But I think with health too, 

1213
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,000
there's so much confusion right 
now. 

1214
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,720
I mean, you know, I, I kind of, 
I'm a researcher and yet I have 

1215
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,760
felt confused at times. 
There is so, so much information

1216
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,800
out there. 
And I think some of it is even 

1217
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,680
infiltrating the church when you
look in the Bible and it's kind 

1218
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,720
of, well, hold on. 
I gave you all the food groups 

1219
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,800
and now you're taking them out. 
Hold on. 

1220
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,960
And So what is the truth? 
And so this has been our 

1221
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,160
passion, trying to find it all 
and just trying to get to the 

1222
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:11,160
bottom of what is, you know, 
what is holistic health as well 

1223
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,160
as embracing bracing, cutting 
edge science. 

1224
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,640
And, and that's what we, we did 
in this book. 

1225
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:20,800
And I think as a woman, if 
you're close to 40 or past 40 or

1226
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:26,040
you're in your 60s, maybe 70s in
and you just feel so like it's 

1227
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,880
for, you know, just for the 
younger ones, I would say that 

1228
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,560
your best years can be ahead of 
you. 

1229
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,680
And that's what we're bringing 
here, that I want my best years 

1230
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,640
to be ahead of me. 
And I'm feeling now like they 

1231
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,720
are. 
I just want you to hear what 

1232
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,280
they're saying. 
You have been positioned in the 

1233
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,800
older years to have a richness 
in your life. 

1234
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:50,360
You do not have a depletion or 
you're Well, my best years when 

1235
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,160
my kids were toddlers. 
Do you remember when they were 

1236
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,000
toddlers? 
You were in one day they'll be 

1237
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,160
in school. 
So, so you have to understand 

1238
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,400
the strength of your season 
right now. 

1239
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,880
And I believe this book is an 
incredible tool. 

1240
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,520
But I, I, I want to just echo 
what both Pearl and Serena have 

1241
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,400
said to you. 
You have full permission to be 

1242
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,960
lovely. 
I love that, Ecclesiastes says. 

1243
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,960
God makes all things beautiful 
in its time. 

1244
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,360
And there's certain beauty of 
being 20 and then there's a 

1245
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,960
certain beauty of being a 70 and
80 year old woman. 

1246
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,040
I don't know what your season 
is, but I want you to have full 

1247
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,320
permission to have beauty in 
this season and have strength. 

1248
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,320
Not to be weak, not to be 
broken, not to be frail, not to 

1249
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,120
be faltering. 
And so I was so excited about 

1250
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,560
hosting them for this particular
podcast. 

1251
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,800
And I hope that everybody here 
makes themselves available. 

1252
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,720
They can they they can follow 
your podcast. 

1253
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,160
What's your podcast called show?
A trim, healthy podcast. 

1254
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,440
Trim Healthy Podcast. 
Everything's at trim healthy 

1255
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,000
Mama dot. 
Com yeah we're going to put it 

1256
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,880
all in our notes. 
You can get a hold of the books 

1257
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,160
that's available now through 
Amazon. 

1258
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,000
Is that correct? 
We also. 

1259
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,200
Have an audio book? 
Still on our website, Coming out

1260
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,400
on Amazon. 
Soon, OK, so you can watch for 

1261
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,320
it on Amazon. 
And these are the kind of things

1262
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,240
that we want to bring to you. 
You, I, you know, it's we just 

1263
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,880
want to see you grow into 
everything that God has for you.

1264
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,880
We need the wisdom on your life.
We need the richness in your 

1265
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,400
marriage. 
We need the legacy. 

1266
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:18,880
We want to see legacy in every 
single aspect of your life and 

1267
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,560
of your marriage. 
And so if this is ministered to 

1268
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,560
you, I'm going to challenge you 
to share this with other women. 

1269
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,880
And I'm going to challenge you 
to subscribe to this podcast 

1270
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,680
because this is just the 
beginning. 

1271
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,360
And I am so honored that you 
would share your time with us.