My algorithm is full of beautiful once Christian women
who are now putting on hijabs practicing Islam because they
believe that it's a beautiful spiritual movement that is going
to bring them close to God and it's what it's going to make the
people oppressed. I'm like looking at this and I
thought what if those women are stupid enough to married into
and I heard the Holy Spirit say I love these women trapped in
Islam. Think not that I don't care
about these daughters. During a basketball game I was
watching and a guilty job film and after the whole game her dad
slapped her public because she showed her in public accident.
Like the whole feminist supposedly is about women
empowerment. Everything I'm hearing is the
stripping away of all female. Rights.
The biggest lie, and it's at the root of the whole feminist
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Do you have someone? Do you remember?
I was confused and I was like, wait, wait.
What are you doing with your brother's wife?
We. Have to clarify, yeah.
No. So I still very distinctly
remember you being on a conversation with Charlie Kirk
and this was, I want to say 2023, maybe 2024.
And you were sharing kind of a foreshadowing of where Australia
was going, that Australia was really out of control, that you
could not actually pray for anybody that was wrestling with
same sex. You couldn't pray for anybody
that was wrestling with gender dysmorphia.
And I watched some of the comments.
Some people were like, I don't believe that.
And I jumped in. I said, excuse me, he is telling
the truth. I was in Melbourne.
The pastor sat me down and was like, you may not do this.
I was forbidden. And I said, well wait, if they
asked for me to pray for them, no, this is crazy.
And I know now Australia is taking it to the next level
because at that time you could still preach from the pulpit.
Yeah, now they have what they call hate preaching laws.
So at the moment in Australia it is illegal to pray the gay away
and they say if you pray for a gay person, if you mentor a gay
person, if you disciple or coach a gay person to reject their sin
to become a Christian, the pastor goes to jail five years
and the church get fined $100,000 for praying the gay
away. Now what if I was in a Muslim
church? Could I do that?
Well, the question is who are they going to apply the law to?
And Australia is a. Christian.
It often and always end up only getting applied to Christians,
but it will be Muslim than Christians really that correct
yourself sexual morality and sexual ethics.
So at the moment in Australia it is the law of the land that if
you feel gay you have to be gay. Okay so it is a criminal offense
punishable by jail that if a gay person gave me their consent.
Yeah, yeah, even with their consent.
If I came to you and I said, hey, I'm really wrestling, I
don't want this. I'm really wrestling.
I, I think I'm a man or I think I'm attracted to him.
You could not pray for me. Exactly 1 of the biggest issues
in Christendom with the gay stuff is that everybody played
the nice gospel because everybody has like a gay uncle
or gay auntie, but they didn't know that.
The LGBTQ sex cult, it's a religion.
It's a religion. God created us to love people,
worship him, use sex. The LGBTQ sex is the perversion
of the gospel that makes you worship sex, love yourself, and
use people. So it wasn't about the love and
the tolerance and the love is love, which it doesn't really
mean anything. It really means lust is love.
And the church fell for the tolerance, light tolerance,
tolerance, tolerance, tolerance. And they didn't know that
whatever the church tolerates, the next generation would
celebrate. And they didn't know that they
were not just after getting married.
Like I know everybody. They were like, I just want to
get married. I just want to get married.
I'm like, dude, they were not just after getting married.
They were after having naked gay men dancing on the street in
Sydney. At the moment we have Mardi
Gras. You guys have like Pride month.
We have Pride month in June and Mardi Gras.
We have Mardi Gras too. It's bad.
You got to have it too. Yeah.
Welcome to the party. That's why we're friends.
But. We don't go.
Yeah, yeah. It is well we well, the problem
is in Sydney you cannot walk on the street during Mardi Gras
with kids that seeing naked men on the street.
So this is very important for people to understand because the
church missed the beat with that one.
They thought it was about love, tolerance, diversity, but it was
about sexual perversion and the neo Pagan cult of the LGBTQ.
If you study the book of Corinthians, you'll clearly get
to see the goddess Aphrodite with the God of sex, love, a
sexual perversion. So the church really missed the
beat. They thought they were being
nice to their gay uncle, but they were actually subscribing
to paganism. So this is very important.
Before. Before 1946 in America, less
than 2% of Americans were LGBQ or gay.
Right after 1946, more than 4% of baby boomers are LGBQ or gay.
More than 10% of Gen. X are LGBQ.
Sorry, More than 2% of baby boomers are LGBQ or gay.
More than. Old and strong baby boomers.
More than 4% of Gen. XL GB Q are gay.
More than 10% of Gen. Y, the Manani of the LGBQ.
Gay. And more than 20% of Gen.
ZL, GB, Q are gay. But the reality is, whatever the
church tolerates, the next generation will celebrate.
Whatever the church normalizes, the next generation will become.
So it went from Love is love to I want to put pastors in jail.
Yeah. And yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And I, you know, I remember I had a friend say it goes from
intolerance to approval to endorsement.
And if you do not endorse, like, you know, it was like, just be
respectful, just. And now it's like they're
intolerant of Christians and Christians have to endorse the
other. So, and now, I mean, there's
this bizarre alliance in the US and I know it's also happening
in your country of, you know, gays for Palestine.
How my? Gaza Cuis for Palestine,
chickens for. KFC.
Yeah, I'm like what? Bakes for bacon, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, and I've even seen some influencers that went over
there and got beat up and they're like, why did they beat
me up? I I fought for their rights.
But I am watching women go crazy and no lean.
I know that you and I share very similar vantages on male and
female relationships. We believe in the power of
women, feminism and feminism and, and we don't agree with
that because that is very much anti family, anti male.
We believe in femininity, we believe in that there is both
male and female. There's not 800 different
variances and but I'm seeing the feminists in Australia, in the
Western world, in the United States.
New York down the road, yes. Yeah, supporting, supporting the
movement of Islam. What is that going to look like?
It's interesting because I find that the root of the biggest
lie, and it's at the root of the whole feminist movement,
liberalism in general, is this this facade of freedom.
It's like, well, we are the party of freedom.
We are the party of like liberalism and liberation.
And that's what feminism, the life feminism has told so many
women, is the movement of feminism is what brought freedom
to women. It's what gave women rights.
But like at the. Heart of all the rights.
Yeah, at the heart of it, I'm like, if you actually like, read
a history book, like just pick up one that's probably not,
doesn't have a feminist bias writing into it.
Before 1945. In 1968 is when in the US they
really turn to the deconstruction of family.
Oh, for sure. The whole Marxist agenda.
If you just read a history book, look at what the world was like.
Let's go even further. Before Christianity was
mainstream, the Romans were the the ideology of the time.
The most mainstream ideology about human rights which was not
existent was what the Romans practiced.
It was survival of the fittest. The the only one that had the
rights at the time was the free Roman male because they were
stronger because they thought that they were smarter.
Like this whole idea of women having a voice was non existent
until Paul in Galatians 3 made this idea mainstream that
there's no Jew or gentile slave or free male or female.
We we are all equal under Christ.
This idea revolutionized not just Christianity the entire
world. And so when the world became
Christian and now these ideas, this became mainstream, women
started to have rights, The teaching of the Bible actually
started to be implemented in culture.
And so it wasn't feminism that started this, it was
Christianity. It was Judaism and and
Christianity. Exactly.
And so when Christianity became mainstream, women got rights,
they were protected, they were provided for, and then all of a
sudden feminism comes along the scene because they have the
freedom to think and to get educated because Christianity
allowed that. And all of a sudden it's the
same problem as the garden. This did God really say they
start questioning the Bible, They start questioning the
narrative of Genesis 3. Oh wait, God is not actually a
Liberator. He's actually the tyrant.
And Satan comes to liberate mankind.
So Satanism starts in first wave feminism.
So the at the core, it's this misrepresentation of what
feminism is, that it's about freedom.
It's actually not. And that's why you're seeing
women who claim to be feminists supporting a radical ideology
like Islam. What that's what is that going
to look like for them? Oh, if what they support, I
mean, you've, you've lived in I live in Egypt.
I came to the West find that they then liberal women
screaming oppressed, oppressed. I'm so oppressed.
I'm like, how do you know that you're oppressed?
I went to university three years.
Like dude, just go to the middle is for a few days.
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woman is half the voice of a man.
Under Sharia law, a man can have four wives.
A woman can only have one husband.
Under Sharia law, any Muslim that is under Sharia law, any
woman that is not a Muslim, any woman that is a Christian can be
kidnapped and raped and force married to a Muslim man and she
becomes a property of the man. Under Sharia law, a man can have
four wives and unlimited concubine.
Under Sharia law, a Christian woman is worth less than a
Muslim woman. So a Muslim man can literally
kidnap right now in Egypt or was born.
There are hundreds of Coptic women's that are getting
kidnapped every single year, young girls and they will get
raped and forced marriage. And the moment they get forced
marriage they have to become Muslim and they transition to
Muslim. Under Sharia law, women are
forced to wear hijab or birka by the command of their husband of
their father. There was that video going
around a few years ago and a lot of liberal pastors who don't
understand Islam shared that women that were playing soccer
and one of their hijab film. If you remember, one of the very
predominant pastors that critique shared it and he said
how beautiful this woman helped that girl and they went around
her to hide her, if you remember that.
So that she didn't get killed. But what he didn't know he was
like, this is beautiful. I'm like, yeah, dude, that's
beautiful. Because if that woman's hair was
shown, her husband, yeah, or her dad would have bashed her.
Right. I remember living in Egypt and
during a basketball game I was watching and a guilty job fell.
And after the whole game, her dad slapped her publicly in
front of me because she showed her in public accidentally.
Accidentally. So you don't want Sharia law?
He did. And a lot of people think Sharia
law is a conspiracy. I wish.
Sharia law is a conspiracy. Sharia law is no conspiracy.
Under Sharia law, a woman who doesn't cover himself and if she
gets sexually harassed or raped, it's her fault.
Yeah, because she's uncovered. It's like, I heard it's like the
lollipop she had, she had her wrapper off.
She was asking for. That's literally what.
They would say yes. And this is the pitch of
Christianity versus Islam. It's like Islam fundamentally
doesn't just oppress women, it oppresses everybody that's under
Islamic rule. Sharia law is not a free legal
system. It's a system of tyranny, of
power, of subjugation. And that's embedded in the
Quran. It's not people misinterpreting
and that's the claim people will say when they say, but
Christians did terrible things. I'm like, yes, these Christians
that did terrible things misrepresented the scripture.
What's happening in is in Muslim countries, they're not
misrepresenting the Quran. They are being faithful to the
Quran in the most obvious sense. The ones who are not practicing
this oppressive system, which doesn't exist, these, these
would be the ones who are not being obedient to the Quran.
So all these these Muslims who say, oh, but we don't do that.
I'm like, well, yes, I'm very grateful you don't do that.
I'm very grateful that you are not being faithful to your
Islamic text, because that's what it is.
A faithful Muslim is one that actually lives in accordance to
the Koran, and that is a radical ideology.
And so Christianity in Christian nations, in the Christian West,
we have freedom, we have religious freedom, we have
rights for both men and women and children is what is actually
supposed to be too. So there's the abortion issue
too. But in Muslim countries there is
still slave trade, modern day slave trade.
Nobody who talks about that? Christianity is free.
Christianity is what freed. Slavery lives matter.
Only the black lives in America. What about the black lives in in
Nigeria? What about the black lives in
the Middle East? What about the black?
Lives well and the whole so. Many black lives that don't
matter. No and according.
To the Black Lives Matter people.
Yeah, yeah. And I mean #1 enslaver of people
is. Exactly, Yeah.
And it still goes on. And they they enslaved white
people, they enslaved Europeans, like Italian, Spanish people
through Algiers. And then also like all, I mean,
it's, it's crazy, but no one wants to talk about that.
So. It's Christianity that freed the
slaves and Muslim countries still have modern slavery,
right? Lincoln and Joyce.
Who's the guy? The English guy.
I don't know, William Wilberforce.
Yeah, it was like. George.
Honestly, yeah. No, not George.
Like George, they freed the slaves.
They brought rights to women. French also freed the slaves.
Yes and women don't have rights in Muslim countries, whereas in
the West it wasn't feminism. Christianity gives women a
voice. Women in Muslim countries are
being married off young. Women as young as nine years old
are being married off to men five times their age.
Where in the West? In the western Christian W you
have absolute freedom for women. So I don't understand how
Christians, even because this is happening in the church too, are
looking at an ideology that fundamentally wants to oppress
human beings and seeing it like it's a good thing.
I do think they think there's the nice ones and then there's
the Muslim Brotherhood. Yeah, I think they think there's
the peaceful and then there's the other.
You know, it's interesting. I remember going to Australia in
2000, I want to say 2004, and I was reading an Australian
newspaper and they had discovered a website where this
Iman was telling the men, hey, if your wife misbehaves, here
are some options for her. Yeah, well, the first was
withhold sex. I was like, that's not gonna
work. Then it was locker in the room.
I was like, also, I'd be fine with that.
But then it was where to hit her, how to hit her so that it
didn't show. And I remember at the time that
back then, the Australian government was horrified by it
back then. And at the time I'm, I'm like
looking at this amount in my mind, I thought, what if those
women are stupid enough to married into?
And I heard the Holy Spirit say, you know, think not that I don't
care about these daughters. I love these women trapped in
Islam. And then he took me to Proverbs
where it said the the very earth shakes at their mistreatment.
And and so there is this mistreatment and I don't
understand, I know that they're masculine, they pursue and then
all of a sudden you're property. Under Sharia law, a man can hit
his wife. Yeah, under Sharia law, gender
mutilation of women, yes, remove sexual pleasure is right where I
grew up. I remember having so many women
as my dad was pastoring and my mom come because their parents
wanted to gender mutilate them. Right, they don't have.
Sex out of marriage we end up having with a generation of
women that will never enjoy sexuality.
Under Sharia an old man 506070 can marry a young girl without
her consent to even buy her. Muhammad was literally a PDF
file. He literally was a 54 year old
man who married Aisha at six years old and then he slept with
her when she was 9. Muhammad had 11 wives.
So like prophet, like son, like the book, like the culture is.
She the one that started the Sunnis.
Yeah, so Isha was a really young Muhammad had 11 wives, every
wife of the whole other. You had Mary the cop, Mary
Alcuptiya, which was a Coptic Egyptian woman that was gifted
to Muhammad as a gift so he doesn't invade Egypt.
And then she became a sex slave. That the only way for Mary
Alcuptiya, for her to be out of slavery, she had to marry him.
He married the daughter of his adopted son.
Her name was Zainab and because he literally saw her, he
literally went to the House of his adopted son and the wind
blew so he saw her half naked. So he ended up changing the law
to remove adoption out of Sharia law and ended up changing the So
in Islam you could marry one woman that became 2 that it
became three that it became. Four Well, I even saw that in
the UAE, the emirate there was supposed to only have a certain
number of and then he, he kept marrying after the what is it,
Prince Abdul, that said, no, you can marry my sister, but no more
wives. And they took another.
One, because it is under Sheree law.
So Muhammad had a revelation to upgrade the Bible from one wife
to two wives to three wives to four wives.
He was a man driven by lust. Yeah, absolutely.
It is no coincidence. Like bloodlust and sexual lust.
Islam is a death cult and it's a sex cult.
And philosophically, that's why the LGBTQ like them the same
spirit. Islam is a death cult.
That's why it loves feminism. Feminists are.
They love murdering babies. So it's the same Antichrist
spirit. It's the spirit.
Islam is a sex cult because their prophet was literally a
pedophile. He was literally his men were
allowed to go to any town, kill the men, enslave the children,
slavery and rape the woman. Yeah, that is the norm of Islam.
According to the Quran, Muslims are allowed the right hand
maiden. What is the right hand maiden?
It is any woman that is not a Muslim.
It's by nature their property. That is why you see in London at
the moment, rape and sexual harassment cases have went up by
3 to 500% in the last 20 years. There are at least 100,000 girls
that were sexually assaulted by Muslim men.
They call them refugees. I call them refugees, Yeah.
At least 100,000 women. Yeah, that were assaulted by
Muslim men. Yeah, by Pakistani Muslim rape
gangs, yeah. And 70 to 80% of those rape
cases are done by Muslim men, and 30% of the cases are by a
man called Muhammad. Yeah.
Well, and then I heard just recently that there's 69,000
children missing in the UK. They said that like they said,
what country do you think has the most children missing?
And people like, oh, you know, the India, oh, the US, they said
no UK. Wow.
And it's crazy. And UK is one of the most
Islamized nation. Well, the population of Muslims
at the moment in the UK is 6 to 7.5%.
The most common baby name in London at the moment for
2019-2020, 2021-2022, 2023. It's not Jacob Cheston, it's not
CS Lewis, it's not Winston Churchill, it's not Charles
Persian. The most common baby name in
London at the moment is Muhammad.
You will see as Islam Rice's sexual harassment, sexual
violence and the raping of children.
It will rise by nature. There is no coincidence.
I remember drawing up as a kid and your your your mom or your
sister or your family or your friends could not even walk on
the street after 7:00 PM without a mail with them.
Yeah, and in fact, it was literally.
Because it wasn't safe. It's not safe sexually.
For right, right. People talk about Epstein is
because of Christianity and the Jews.
I'm like not really. If you go to the Middle East the
reason there is no cases of sexual rape because if you go
and report it's legal they will rape you themselves.
So I'm like the Islamic world is full of sexual harassment of
women or rape again like prophet like son.
Muhammad literally invaded nations killed men, slept with
their wives by force and the only for them women.
After Islam and Muhammad took over a nation or a civilization,
the women of the leaders had to option it's either become sex
slave or you force marry. So most of them ended up just
marrying him by force. You can literally study that 11
women that Muhammad slept with and you're going to be like this
guy was APDF file. He was a sexually deviant man.
He was driven by violence and loss and that is the reason
feminists and Muslims get along. But but I mean.
They kill. People but he, they, I mean like
the whole feminist supposedly is about women empowerment.
Everything I'm hearing is the stripping away of all female
rights, covering them in shame and shadow, taking away their
rights, raping, I mean, you know, kidnapping, whatever.
Like what? Is this just a spirit of
deception in in the United States because.
Totally, totally. I mean, you just have to open up
your Bible and read the first 3 pages and you can see from the
very beginning this whole idea came from a woman being
deceived. And I think it's not it's also
the the tragically women who are drawn to Islam, whether it by
choice, which is happening actually in the West.
That's something people don't want to talk about is I'm seeing
my algorithm is full of beautiful Christian, once
Christian women who live in The Who are now putting on hijabs
who are now going on this this pilgrimage to Mecca.
Who would practicing Islam because they believe they've
been deceived to believe that it's a beautiful spiritual
movement that is going to bring them close to God.
And it's because I think feminism, liberalism has
convinced women in the West that Christianity is oppressive.
Quite literally the at the baseline of feminism, feminist
philosophy says that it was the church that has been enslaving
women, that it was the church and its systems that has been
trapping women in marriage, that has been taught telling women
that you should be a slave to the household.
All these lies and these deceptions came from this idea,
the same idea as the garden. Did God really say this?
That's really what it comes down to.
It's this deception taking a woman outside of her role.
And now what we're seeing, the deception is being replaced with
a new one, which is Islam. And it's what it's going to make
the people oppressed. Yeah, well, I mean, I'm, I'm
just in awe by how confused people are.
The church across the West has been womanized and feminized.
But why is that? Because the Cultural Revolution
happened in 1960s and most of the church ended up subscribing
to Nice Gospel instead of actually like you nailed it with
your book with the new book The Fight for Female.
Because when you actually go so the foundation of feminism is
fundamentally demonic. It's fundamentally sexually
perverted. It's Mary Shelley.
A bunch of lesbians, Yeah. So I'm like.
And the church were like, actually, no, we can negotiate
with feminism. Did God really say, well, some
things about feminism are good? I'm like, no, it's
fundamentally. Well, they get they get
confused. They get confused what feminism
actually got for them. They think it was the vote that
was not feminism. They think it was equal pay for
equal or that was not feminism. But I do, I remember a long,
long time ago, I hosted Phyllis Shafley.
She was a Harvard educated attorney.
And she said if we pass the era the way it was, that it will be
the downfall of family. And it's so crazy.
They just did a movie, made her a villain.
And she was not an evil person. She was godly.
She was kind. She was concerned.
She wanted to leave her grandchildren a better world.
And I am all about women having voice.
I am all about women obeying God.
But you do not get your voice by taking it from men.
You do not get your voice to denounce men.
You do not get your voice to denounce order of law.
It's just very, you know, very crazy.
Like we believe submission means under assignment.
Like I have submit to my husband because I'm building with my
husband, building a marriage, building a family, building an
organization. You know, we submit means under
assignment. And so I do believe that there's
been two things. I do believe there's been the
feminization of the church where the men are like I, I don't feel
comfortable. Yeah.
I mean. Now they don't have a, that's
why. How many men are?
Yeah, the attendance in church is woman Well.
It's starting, it's starting to shift a little bit at.
The moment but you are seeing the problem.
In the last 50 years, church attendance by women were at
least double of men. Like John is the one that stood
up at every conference and said Jesus is only your friend if you
obey him. Oh, yeah, yeah, he says.
You are my friend if you obey your.
Boyfriend. He's like, you can.
Well, and, you know, having four sons, like no guy wants to sing
Heaven meets Earth with a sloppy wet kiss.
Yes, that's like, so awkward. And I've always hated that song.
Yeah. But I mean, even like my I was
like, no, like women might cry. You want to sing that?
A women's comfort stuff don't make men.
Please. Yeah.
I'm like, it's so uncomfortable and I'm not gay.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
And it's it's so it's so not right.
But I also also feel like we've had the flip side.
So, and I said this and people got really mad at me.
I was on something else. But feminism, it's interesting
in the US, it rose at the same time as the Jesus Revolution.
Like, So what happened was people were feeling this void
and they either could fill it by being born again and finding
Christ because, you know, Betty Friedan came in and was like,
don't you wish there was something more?
And they were like, yes, I'm just trapped in my house, you
know? And really, they were longing to
be born again. They were longing for an
intimate relationship with God. And instead they made the man
the problem instead of God being the answer.
And so it was at the same time. It's crazy when you see the
parallel, this void could have been felt filled with a
spiritual awakening, but instead it was filled with anger and
rebellion and men of oppressedist.
Having said that, I don't think that feminism would have gained
as much traction if the church had loved its daughters.
Well, Oh, absolutely, because I literally, you know, I get I get
born again at 21. I have such an experience with
the love of God. And I was aware, I was totally
aware that I brought nothing good to the table.
I I didn't hear Jesus is your boyfriend.
I heard Jesus is your Lord. I definitely understood said
that Jesus was Lord. But I remember ministers coming
through and saying things like, do you know where we'd be right
now if it wasn't for women? We'd be in the garden.
I was kind of like, I feel like Adam, nothing happened to Adam.
Adam yielded. Like Eve was deceived.
But Adam knew, you know, And so like, we, we have this thing
where, you know, oh, women need to shut up.
Women should have no voice. And I'm like, no, Adam and Eve
should have both used their voice on the serpent.
Oh, yeah. But instead they used it to
accuse one another. You know the woman you gave?
Me, Adam, where are you? Yeah, the reality is the whole
problem of the garden is fundamentally a man problem.
Adam was a passive man and that's a reality.
What happened in the 60's? The church and the Cultural
Revolution, the gay revolution. There was so many revolution in
the 60s. Second wave feminism.
The issue we have at the moment is that women no longer follow
their husband, they follow the government.
They follow their emotions, their.
Emotions and what happened as leftism, as liberalism have
created a highly emotional culture.
Feminism is transgenderism. Yeah.
And transgenderism is feminism. If women can fulfill the role of
a man, then why can't a man wear a skirt and pretend to be a
woman? Yeah.
So you're going to have to go back to the drawing board.
Yeah. And be like, if I am a feminist,
then I am a transgenderist. Yeah.
Philosophically and morally, yeah.
We need to just go back to Genesis 1-2 and three and get
our fundamental identity, perception, and reality from the
Bible. Feminist revolution rises up.
The church didn't create a proper biblical stance on it.
They'll be scared. I still don't know if they have
it. Yeah, I don't.
They don't. I mean, one of the, one of the
most contentious things you will ever have a conversation about
is whether women can preach or not, not whether women can
pastor. You know, like if you even say
women can preach. People are like, I suffer a
woman not to preach or teacher. I have authority over a man.
I mean, they will go after you, whereas I'm not a pastor, but I
believe that women can prophecy. I believe women can teach.
I believe women can preach. I believe that we make
disciples. But you would think that that is
ultimate rebellion. Yes.
And and I know that you guys have you have no lien involved.
You have, I mean like you have both men and.
And honestly, I think with that one like outlook, if you don't
believe women should preach, I'll give you the benefit of the
doubt. But the reality is you have to
understand it is a secondary issue.
It is not a. But they've made it.
They've made it a primary and so the I mean, the other things
have become very much the main issues.
You know, I mean that like the women preaching is the main
issue. And they've been.
Neglected in the context of life, abortion, Islam.
Yeah homosexuality, young people transiting themselves, yeah.
And cutting and butchering their body parts Socialism, communism,
women preaching. Dude, it is so small.
And the reality is you have to understand it is not a sin issue
and it is a secondary issue. Yeah.
So even if you want to claim the moral righteousness that I'm
perverting the first Second Timothy and first Second
Corinthians, you'll have to understand.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say.
Cuz I do believe people with good conscience really believe
that. So yeah.
But I've seen a cruelty with that, definitely.
And so then what happens is friends, then they go
progressive and then they embrace feminism and I'm like,
no, no, that's not okay. Bible.
Yeah, yeah, the beauty of the Scripture, you can go, but it's
the. Middle, like one of the good
things about Christianity, it is not hyper masculinity.
It's not hyper femininity. Yeah, there is this awesome two
people becoming 1, so we don't need to have a working together
or a gender. War, yeah, And that's.
Like The thing is. I, I speak a lot about abortion,
a lot about feminism, a lot about what the very hyper
conservative or maybe more reformed and, you know,
fundamental people would agree with.
But it's because I'm a woman saying it that the issue is.
And so I find it very interesting.
I could post a video online and they would agree with every
single thing that I say, but it's because I'm a woman saying
it that that's from a stage. If you say it as though
Instagram is in a stage, yes. If you say it exactly the
platform, yeah. And to your point, when you were
saying back in first way feminism, because I had somebody
that asked me a question, they were like, yeah, but I hear
everything you're saying. And I'm hearing that it's, you
know, there was a lot of ideological problems with it.
But at the same time, don't you think there was an issue there
with women being mistreated? Women were being abused in the
households. And I said to them, I said, I
agree with you, but the problem is we have misdiagnosed the
solution. So the problem we agree, we
agree that there was a problem. Women, there was for the most
part, there was a lot of drunkenness in the household.
And women in especially first wave feminism, they were trying
to outlaw alcohol because they were like, we don't want our
husbands to drink anymore because they keep coming home
and beating us. So we can agree that that was a
that was a problem. But the solution wasn't some
liberal Marxist movement that was created by atheists.
It should have been the church. It should have been the church
that stood up. The men in the church should
have stood up and said, Hey, man wives like discipled them.
The church exactly discipled them in the way that Scripture
says to you, Hey, this is how you treat a woman and should
have disciplined and should have corrected the men.
At that time, most people were Christian, cultural
Christianity, most people were Christian.
So I see the problem was that the church didn't stand up.
The leadership didn't stand up and correct in a way that was
biblical. So because of that, the world
stepped up and used a different gave a different solution that
ultimately is not biblical and and I think the I will give.
Grace to the church, like the left are 200 years ahead of you
and Islam, while the church is always scrambling to engage in
the next political and culture war, the left already this
agendas you are coming through feminism, communism, Marxism,
Islamism. They are two to 300 years old.
Yeah, like whether it's Karl Marx, they're not.
They're not new. They're not.
New so the issues we. Have the church lost its
capability? You see the whole thing.
The church shouldn't speak about politics, whatever the heck that
means. It doesn't mean anything.
And I'm like, what does it even? I mean like even in our country,
separation. Of church and state was to
protect the church from the state, exactly not not the
state. From the church.
Yeah, so one of the most comments we.
Get you're too political. I don't see difference between
political and biblical. Yeah, they're the same Kingdom.
Yeah, this Kingdom. Jesus is.
Lord of the role. Jesus was King of the Jews.
It's a Kingdom literally on the sign David.
David was a politician. Solomon was a politician.
Daniel, Shadrach, Maisha and Abednego were politicians.
Nehemiah was a politician. As though the politician Elijah
and Elisha spoke to politicians. Moses spoke to politicians.
I'm getting involved in politics, spoke to politicians.
Yeah, I'm not sure. John don't speak about politics
thing. I'm not sure what does it mean.
Yeah, and I believe that lie of the church and speak about
politics. Let the feminists, the
socialists, the Marxists, the LGBTQ the most invade the
culture. And.
Now people want to play church on Sunday and I'm like, talking
about gender is not political, thank you very much.
Talking about Islam, that's not political.
That's talking about gayness. That's not political.
I'm like, ultimately everything is spiritual.
Yeah. John the Baptist, Literally.
And this is where people go to because we genuinely feel like
the the call in our life is very much similar to John the
Baptist. Like make way for the Lord and
like remove that divide between. This prophetic.
Voice John the Baptist was beheaded because he called out a
politician for their sexual perversion.
Yeah, so I'm like, we are literally in Australia
especially, that's kind of how our voice started, was calling
out sexual perversion in politics and calling all of this
stuff out, being a voice of reason and morality to the world
and saying to the church, hey church, where are you?
Our culture is being led by the politicians where it should be
led by the church. Why aren't you saying anything?
And so that's what we're seeing people are saying, why are you
speaking about this? I'm saying why are not, why
aren't you? Why aren't you speaking about
the things that are absolutely people from Australia?
To America, where we still have the freedom, yes, which we don't
have that in Australia. Exactly which we could lose.
Because we. Didn't speak.
We have. Lost our freedom now to speak
and same as UK in UK. At the moment, what we just said
can get you jailed. Every single day in UK, 30
people are arrested for what they say and what they post,
even what's in their heart. What if you pray?
If you intention, if you. Pray in Scotland, if you pray
for a a pregnancy cent, well like an abortion centre, yeah.
And you're down the street and you're saying in your home you
get arrested. Crazy as of a few weeks ago, but
you can be. In the street doing.
Calder prayer and you can be on the street.
With your genitals out. Yeah, which is you can share
your sexual body parts, but you can't share your faith.
Yeah, but that is the product of the church.
This is very important. The church shooters make a
politics. It's a communist lie.
Yeah. Like I had to go back to the
drawing board. I'm like, why are most churches
in America acting like gender is political, sex is political
economy is political. Like socialism.
If you study socialism, it's evil.
Socialism is fundamentally Darwinism, atheism exemplified
in a political system. Like it's it's so everything
that used to be biblical is not political.
Everything that used to be theological is now cultural and
everything that used to be spiritual people claim to be
political. And I'm like, it used to be
normal to say marriage is Adam and Eve or Adam and Steve, but
now it's illegal. And you're like, wait, what?
Like, like what's going on? It used to be normal to say
gender is 2, not 92, yet most churches in America, if you say
that people are like, whoa, that's so offensive.
I'm like my husband's had. Pastors pull him aside and say I
don't want you to read that scripture.
Like, maybe he read it first Service and I don't want you to
read that second service. He was at one particular church.
I mean, just last year and I don't know what I wasn't with
John, but I don't know what he said.
But I guess there was one of the congregation members is married
to a woman, but he liked to dress up as a woman when he was
at work. He was a doctor.
So he was dressing up like a woman at work and like left the
service crying, upset because John said something, because
John said if you don't tell a child, you know, if you don't
tell a child the difference between male and female, you
just draw a circle and you have two arms and two legs and you
don't like he said you've you've got to be able to be clear on
what is. And I believe that an attack on
biological sex is an attack on the image of God, because God
created us in this male and female, literally the first page
of the Bible. You don't even need to read
much, just open the first page. But I mean, I've had leaders say
this. It's not true.
Crazy. I've had leaders say that's not.
True. Don't say.
That and then when I've said things like when when it says
the future is female and then I show that it was from a 19, what
was it 1974 lesbian separatist group called?
Well, no. It's a 1974 lesbian separatist
group called Labyrus, and it was a 2 eded axe carried by the
Greek and Roman goddesses. And so like on the front, it
said the future is female. On the other, on the back, it
said keep your keep your Labras sharpened.
It was a 2 eded axe. And they literally said in a
Washington Post article that the future is female was a call to
war, an invocation and a spell to cast.
Do you know my Christian publisher fought me, fought me.
Fought me, fought me. Yeah, I believe it.
And I was. Like wait and.
They said but it's for the good of all, a spell for I was like,
no, no. And it was brought into Hillarys
campaign, so it was 1974 and then it was brought into
Hillarys campaign in what, 2015? And so every time you see that
it is actually doing it with it's emasculation of men, the
elimination of men. And you know what, what in the
world and I've had churches be like, we don't you talk about
that. It's political.
I'm like, it's an attack on gender.
It's an well, I don't even can't say the word gender anymore.
It's an attack on this is biological sex lie we have to
confront. In the American, there's
certain, yeah, there's certain things I.
Want political? This, this is a big lie because
the big lie, I've seen the American church, the big lie,
the church shouldn't speak about politics.
No, that is a lie. It's not biblical, it's not
theological, it's not historically accurate.
There is nowhere in the Scripture that said that.
And there is nowhere in the Christian history, which we have
2000 years of it, ever said that.
That lie comes from the Communist Manifesto.
Well, and even in the Old Testament.
The anointing was on the king and and the and the prophet and
the priest. So like, it was the priest, the
king and the prophet. So all of them had anointing.
The king, of course, has governmental rule.
The prophet removes obstacles from people's hearts, and the
priest stands in between the people and God.
So there was an anointing that was very specific.
And now we're like, Nope, you only have the priest.
And that's the problem. The problem is.
I think for the most part, the church has abandoned its
anointing is we are called to speak truth to a culture that
loves death. When it comes to churches who
are not willing to talk about abortion because it's political,
you're called to speak life or you might hurt somebody in the
crowd. That's had one, yeah, which
unlike okay, this. Is what the fact of the matter
is, is one in four women who have an abortion are regular
church attendees. So if we can do what the Bible
says and disciple people, not just like new people and and
support them and support them. Support them if they.
Make that decision. If we can tell them, hey, this
is. What is happening when you make
this decision, right? This is what the Bible says and
here is the hope that is found in Jesus.
I cannot tell you. We had a pastor one time call us
and we were talking about this whole thing about church not
speaking about politics, and he was on the fence about this and
he made this one statement. He said, look, man, I can agree
with you guys about like a lot of the stuff, but the abortion
thing, like I just, I just don't want to tell the women in my
church that they're murderers. You know, I just don't want to
tackle that conversation. And I remember sitting back and
thinking about this when I was wrestling murders exactly to
define. What happened exactly, but I was
wrestling with? This and then the next morning
in church, we didn't talk about abortion on the platform that
Sunday. We didn't, and nothing was
really related to anything along those lines.
But a girl came up to me after the service who had been
attending our church for two years now.
And she looked at me and we were talking about her week.
And she said, I know that this is really off topic and it's out
of nowhere, but and she started, she tears in her eyes.
And she said, I just wanted to thank you, that you were willing
to talk about abortion on a Sunday.
And I looked at her. I said, wow, that is very
random. What makes you say that?
She says, I was just thinking about it this week and I was
thinking about the very first time I came to your church.
You were speaking and you did an entire sermon on abortion, ever
sermon. She was a Catholic.
She was a Catholic the first time ever.
In Evangelical. Church here in the Bible, yes,
and she said the first. Sermon I ever heard when I came
to this church was one on abortion and she said.
And I did not feel condemned. I didn't feel like I couldn't
come back. In fact, it was the first time
that I actually felt like I come, remember for God and
receive forgiveness. It was the first time I could
come and feel like I was actually free, she said.
Thank you guys for creating an environment in the presence of
God in church, yes, where I could actually experience
freedom for the first time because it's only truth that
would set you. Free.
This is the reality. The goal of the church is not to
make people feel good, It's to actually set people free.
When you know the truth, the truth would set you free.
The reality is the more you remove truth, you're not being
nice. You're not being compassionate,
you're not being inclusive. You're actually getting people
into slavery. This is very important.
People criticize my gay jokes, my Islam jokes, whatever jokes,
But the reality is we have Muslims, gays, LGBTQ, trans in
our church, Gen. Z, young people who are getting
saved because truth is the pathway to freedom.
So you have to understand you're either going to make your people
feel good or you're going to make your people free.
Yeah, you have to make a decision.
And the reality is truth will trigger you in order to
transform you. The gospel will make you
offended in order for you to be repented.
And the more you try to remove the offensive nature of the
gospel, the more you remove the power of the gospel.
Literally said the gospel is offensive to those who are
perishing, but it is the power of the living God to those who
believe the gospel is offensive. There is nothing you can do
about it. So speak the word of the Lord.
These stories you have like we've been preaching last six
weeks, every single week, like I'm very offensive when it comes
to attacking Islam. And after the sermon, a Muslim
gal told me, thank you so much. What you said is true in church.
In church. Yeah, and.
They would tell me, I know what you said is harsh, but it's
true. It's true.
Thank you. And what were they doing in
church? That's.
Interesting, they must have been.
They must have been seeking. Well, and I, you know, when we
aired our podcast with Millicent and Martin, one of beautiful,
kind woman who is in the Muslim faith reached out to me furious,
absolutely furious. You know, you're educated, you
know better. And I was like, wait a minute.
And then I said to her, do you know 100,000 Christians have
been martyred, killed by Islam in the last 50 years, 50 years.
That's it. Not, not forever.
You know, people keep talking about the Crusades.
I'm like, let's just talk about the last 50 Nigeria by Muslims.
Well, yeah, yeah. And I mean, you're seeing like,
I know that John, I have an incredible passion for the
Persian people, the Farsi speaking people.
Like we've given so much resources into that country.
And yeah, but but what's happening right now is an
explosion of revival in the underground church, you know, so
when the hardship happens, life and death comes and people are
like, what in the world? And so I'm just believing that
our nation's going to have wake up call.
I, you know, I, I mean, I'm, I just couldn't believe that so
many people are upset about AB and C And I'm like, what about
40 to maybe 70,000 people slaughtered it in Iran.
You're not upset about that. Like all these you're not
excited about? That free.
Free Palestine, or? Or or.
The few people that decide to get it in front of a car, in
front of the ICE agent, Yeah. Who are already criminals,
breaking or just. Being stupid, yeah.
Like I mean the one woman saying why did you use real bullets?
Like what did you think was going to happen?
The problem is with that though. Is because the churches are not
speaking about these issues because they're political?
Yeah, everybody's getting their information from the world.
There is a biblical sense of immigration.
Yeah, like, again, look, I'm like, again, we came to the
church world as young people, so we kind of provide a fresh
thing. And I'm like, churchianity is
becoming so toxic. Yeah, it's churchianity.
You're being in the church, playing church, singing kumbaya
songs, playing spiritual ritualism, running your program.
And I'm like, I just want to know, what if Jesus stands for
immigration? Yeah, I want to know what if
Jesus stands for abortion? No, they'll say, oh Jesus.
Was an immigrant. That's no, I know, I know.
I just, I'm just saying I'm like, yeah, Jesus was an
immigrant. 1000% yeah, but Jesus didn't go to the other.
Country and they. Did make it Muslim and.
They did, and he did register with Caesar.
Tiberius. Yes, like his parents.
Did register. Yeah, Jesus was an immigrant,
but he didn't. Go to another land to say I'm
going to make it Muslim. Invade it, conquer it, subdue
and kill. I'm like, yeah, Jesus was an
immigrant. I'm pro immigration.
But if you go to a country, biblical immigration is very
important. If you don't leave your Pagan
God according to Old Testament, people love their empathy
immigration. If you apply biblical
immigration, if you worship a different God, you'll get killed
or get ostracized from the land. Well, it's really actually have
some. Biblical if you want.
To apply biblical, but it's because our nation it's.
Because our nation's under the judgement of God, because we've
called evil good and good. I mean, you can see that.
I mean, it says, you know, when you got, when you do these
things, your enemies going to rise, are going to take over
your borders. So we're, we're at this point
where there needs to be a radical wake up call to pastors.
I mean, you know, we started a podcast because we, we got tired
of being told what we could and could not say.
You know, and, and again, most people are going to know, but I
mean, a sweet Millicent told me that people would ask her and
then they would tell her ahead of time.
Like, I don't want to say this and I don't want you to say
that. And I don't want I was like, why
did they ask you exactly? Why did they?
Surely? From your.
Social media, they knew what she would say.
Yeah, again. And the issue?
Fear. Of man Oh yeah it's fear of.
Man, and the issue is we get like.
You're saying like like your book is amazing the five of
female like you are literally referencing the feminist
propagate the feminist manifesto.
You're not a conspiracy theorist.
No, like you are literally. I'm actually more historian.
Yeah, and I actually used to think it was good to begin with,
and then it went sideways and I felt like actually it was never
OK like I used to be. 1st wave feminism or not pro radical
feminism, just moderate feminism.
Yeah, until you go to check, there's no such thing as the
same thing we're facing with. Everyone, I was going to say
the. Same thing with Islam.
Yeah, it's a, it's a the nice. Well, it's Islam the gay.
Agenda. I have a nice gay auntie.
Every single topic you go back, you're like, this is not just
about empathy. Yeah, there is actual evil
demonic manifestos that have been fabricated 50 to 200 years
ago to fundamentally destroy Christian civilizations.
And I'm like, why are you ignorant?
This is my question. Because no, because it's easier
to. Be ignorant than actually to be
accountable. Yes, and it's hard to be
accountable. It is because it requires and
there is a. Genuine hatred for knowledge and
the Bible said my people are destroyed because of the lack of
knowledge every time I spend time in the presence of God,
every time I dig into the truth of the scripture, every time I
open whatever manifesto I realize quickly God has so much
knowledge yeah wisdom and understanding for us to do every
single year yeah my stance of things change Oh yeah like in
the. Last 6.
Seven years since COVID, we have flipped.
I became a right wing crazy activist because I was like,
wait for a second. COVID was about subverting the
church to stop the worship of Christ.
The bars were open strip. Clubs were open.
Brothels were open. Yeah.
And I was like. The gay agenda.
Was about criminalizing the church.
Islam was about destroying the Christian nations and the
Christian civilization of the West.
Mass immigration was about fundamentally changing the
Christian culture of America. And I'm like, I'm not being
conspiracy theorist. Yeah, you can literally go back
to the Feminist Manifesto. It's great.
Like your whole book, you went back to the Feminist manifesto.
Yeah. You're like, wait for a second.
Yeah, this is not a nice slogan. Yeah, this is a bunch of evil.
We could be promoting homosexuality.
And babe, you can. Promoting homosexualism, 1st
wave feminism you started. It Mary Shelley.
I don't know, all these people. Yeah.
Ohh yeah. No, no, no.
Well, they're all like and their lives.
Ended. Tragically, yes, yes, I was
like, yeah. Exactly is Percy.
Shelley. Like left Mary Shelley, her half
sister, his first wife, marriage.
Yeah, totally. His ex.
Wife ended up. Ending her own life, yes, but
it's like, that's that's the thing about all of this.
I think that with the deception thing you were talking about is
things like this was so much easier to spot back in the
biblical times because everybody had a supernatural worldview and
they would quite literally say, I'm putting up this literal
altar in my house. I'm putting up a literal shrine
in my home and I'm worshipping and bowing down to this God.
Now, because of postmodernism, modernism, and atheism, we
inherently worship anything you were created to worship, which
means if you're not worshipping God, you will worship something
else. But because of postmodernism,
we've kind of lost this idea of being able to discern what we're
worshiping. We're putting up idols, and it
may not be a literal shrine in our household, but you are
bowing down to the idol of feminism without knowing it.
You're bowing down to the idol of sexual perversion without
knowing it. If you're a Christian, if you
are a Christian that is compromising on these things,
you have made it an idol. You have one God, and you need
to do what Elijah said to the prophets of Baal.
You need to pick which side you were on.
You need to choose worship God and do it with your entire being
with every topic no matter if it's or not.
Or just worship your false demon God of Molech and agree with
abortion. You don't get to do both.
Yeah, like socialism is the worship.
Of government Feminism is the worship of Jezebel killing
babies and my body, my choice is the worship of Molech.
Islam is the worship of a violent demonic entity called
Allah. Multiculturalism is the worship
of Pagan gods. If you actually check your
culture, you'll be quickly realized everybody's worshiping
something or someone. And you have to come to the
conclusion, do you worship God or not?
Like you don't have to agree with me, but when you find the
truth contradicting your nice liberal worldview.
I always say to people, most Christians in America are
liberals who think they're Christian.
And this is very controversial thing to say.
You have a Christian slogan and a Christian, but you have a
liberal worldview. But the.
Problem is. Worldview.
Like I'm like when I tell you homosexuality is sin and you
tell me that's hateful. You're not really a Christian,
you're liberal. Because I didn't say I hate
gays. Yeah, I just confronted them
because you can say. Homosexuality is sin.
Fornication is sin. Adultery is sin.
Greed is sin. Idolatry is sin.
I mean all yes, yeah, but but the problem is most.
Christians in the West, they have a liberal mindset.
So every time you bring a biblical stance, they get
triggered. They literally, it's like Islam
is a, a death cult and A and an evil wicked ideology.
Well, that's not loving. And I'm like, I didn't tell you
if it's loving or not. I love people.
You're judging my heart. And you're very judgmental
actually, because you're saying I'm not loving, which is the
most judgmental thing you can do.
Like you're not judging what I said, you're judging my
intention. Yeah, which is the epitome.
Of self. Righteousness.
Yeah. It's like you accuse me of being
a Pharisee. You are the Pharisee that you
hate. You hate yourself.
You're like, you're judgmental. I'm like, you're judgmental
about being judgmental with a judgmental exception.
So if you don't want to be judgmental, you can never accuse
someone on being judgmental. Yeah, it's post modernism.
It's like, it's like it's a certain we are called to make
judgments. But the problem is so I.
Think most people judge ourselves according to the word.
Yes. So most people.
Don't have a biblical worldview to see things as the Bible said,
Not as your lecturer, your academics, or your Hollywood's
favorite Billy are they should, Justin Bieber told you Really.
I mean, these are actors. These are.
People who pretend for a living, why are we even?
Why are we listening to them? Yeah, exactly.
And I've been saying that. For a while I'm like, I don't
even, I don't even understand why we think they're thought
leaders. These are not educated people.
These are people who pretend it doesn't make any sense.
OK, so now we've got people. They're like, Oh no, what do I
do? What do we do?
Because most of my audience is going to be women.
They have children. How do they start to begin to
shift this? How do they bring this home?
I mean, I I'm. I've been saying this actually
for a few weeks that we've been travelling and it's, I think
maybe it's just God kind of sharpening this direction.
Something that I'm personally doing is when I look in history,
every creed that was written, every theological stance that
was written by the early church, the church fathers, it was
written in response to heresy. It was written in response to
men or women or movements that claimed that the Bible said
something when it didn't, claimed that Jesus stood for
something and he didn't. And so the response was, well,
actually, no, We're seeing that the word of God is being
attacked. We're seeing that the church is
being pointed finger at and is criticized.
So we're going to correct theology.
We're going to go into scripture and we're going to make a very
clear stance on what we believe. I believe we're in a time now
when the church and Christians themselves in your household, if
you're a woman listening to this in your household, have a very
clear stance to your children. This is what we believe.
Go back to the basics of scripture.
Know what you believe and stand unashamedly and declare what you
believe. I think that it's coming to a
point now where we have been giving our brains over to
people, to other people, to other ideologies and being like,
well, I'll just follow whatever you say.
My favorite podcaster, my favorite celebrity instead of
doing what we have always done as men and women of God is going
back to Scripture and saying what does the Bible say and
really coming and seeking the Holy Spirit for clarity, by the
way, on the right and the left. So.
This is not about politics. Yes, like I love what's
happening in the moment. Both sides are going crazy for
people to realize we need to pursue biblical truth.
Yes, right. The the left is more sexually
perverted. The right is kind of going nuts
at the moment. But we do need to find biblical
definition of reality, philosophy and how morality, I
mean our country is being split down the middle.
Yeah, and it's just going to increase.
And it's it's going to fall. If it I mean there's a Kingdom
divided and the church, but the church needs to be united.
We can't have, you know, churches speech, you know,
feelings. It just we need to preach the
word yes, and this is what Paul warned Timothy about a day's
going to come. Yep, where people will not
tolerate. No, they want, they want to just
itch my ears, just tell me what I want to hear.
And we're in that time. So I want to do this.
I want to close with this. I want you to pray for courage.
Amen for my audience. Amen.
Yeah, let's pray. You need courage.
Courage. Amen.
Lord, I pray God for every single woman, even every single
guy that's watching Lord, that you're going to give them
courage, boldness and authority. Yes, you said, Lord, that you
receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you and you'll
be able to speak my word. He said, God to Joshua, be
strong and courageous. Esther, God was a bold woman
that she said, I'm going to go and speak and not be silent.
And if I die, I die. I pray God over every single
woman. She would not be scared, she
would not be intimidated. She would not be afraid to share
her faith. Go to that school meeting, post
that post, talk to that person. Be loud and proud about her
faith. I probably got for every single
woman. She will have courage, boldness,
authority to fight for the faith and hold your word as a sword in
this very dark times. In Jesus name I pray.
Amen. Amen, you guys.
Thank you. So much.
Thank you loved you. We're so proud of you.
I appreciate your edginess. I appreciate your courage and I
have a very real understanding and like John, I have been like
when I found you that I've, you know, figured out.
I make John watch and I'm like, look at this.
Like they may go back and and be arrested.
Yeah. Like, and John was like, wow.
So I just I I, you know, you guys are pioneering something
for the next generation. And in so many ways, you guys
are the answers to our prayers and thank you for your ministry.
Like. Andrew and I have looked up to
you and John for so many years and we're just grateful that you
guys have have stood on truth and have not wavered from the
truth when many leaders unfortunately are.
And so we're we honor you guys for what you do, Pray for us for
protection. Legally, politically and our
lives, yes we do, going back home.
Yes. They just passed hate preaching
laws a few weeks ago, right? So now they're going.
After the. Pulpit.
That's the final thing. So they now define hate
preaching as preaching that causes hurt feelings,
psychological harm or division, and that is not punishable by 8
to 15 years in jail. So we're going back home.
I'm preaching. I don't care if you wanna arrest
me for preaching where you're gonna.
Yeah, do it. So pray for our protection
legally, politically and even our lives addressing Islam.
It's a suicide thing, you know, But we're gonna be strong and
crazy. We love you guys.
I love your book Girls with Swords and Fat for Female.
Your books are very violent. And just read all your books.
Yeah. My husband hasn't even read my.
Books. So I am impressed.
Yeah. You have always been a fighter.
I was like. Telling you I'm like every
nearly every book you have have a sword or fire or a lion.
So you haven't been? Feminized.
That kind. Of book by.
Feminist and Karen's. Yeah, I got called to Karen
recently. I was like, what?
Yeah. Feminism.
If you're a feminist, you are. You're a Karen.
Yeah. And.
Jezebel and. Darren is Ahab.
Yeah, yeah. That's.
It Yeah. Well, thank you so much.
Thank you. I love you.
I love that you guys are always on the edge, so I appreciate it.
Yeah.