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I've been hurt by men, but I've 
been wounded by women. 

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I used to think I don't like 
women. 

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I don't like him at all. 
I'm not really a woman. 

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I think like a man. 
And I was really comfortable 

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with all that until God 
confronted me and said I 

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actually love women. 
I've called you to minister to 

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women. 
Can't have you minister out of a

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bitterness. 
And I went on this journey about

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what did it mean to be a woman? 
What did it mean to be a 

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daughter of God? 
The feminist mindset is the most

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anti female mindset because it 
says to women, if you want to be

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powerful, you need to act like a
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But I don't want to act like a 
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I want to act like a woman. 
I believe that female is 

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something worth fighting for. 
The fight for female is about 

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restoring your dignity Take back
what it means to act like a 

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powerful woman. 
Welcome to the Fight for Female 

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podcast. 
And you may be wondering why? 

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Why would we even have a podcast
called Fight for Female? 

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Well, if you're even a little 
bit paying attention, you're 

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seeing that there is a lot of 
stuff going on in our world 

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right now that is very, very 
confusing. 

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And I'm going to just take you 
back a little bit into my 

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personal fight with female. 
When I realized that I was 

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getting married and I became a 
born again Christian, one of the

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things I found out really quick 
was that females did not feel 

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like they had voice or value in 
the church. 

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It was very confusing to me. 
I remember that moment when a 

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minister got up and said where 
would we be without women. 

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I thought he was going to say 
it's amazing and he said we 

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would be in the garden. 
Women are the ones that got us 

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kicked out of the garden. 
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thought that is never how I 
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And I went on this journey about
what did it mean to be a woman? 

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What did it mean to be a 
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I didn't always like women. 
I grew up in a very broken 

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household and I remember seeing 
women as vulnerable, seeing 

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women as mean. 
And I saw a lot of different 

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dynamics between my parents. 
And I think as a young girl, I 

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felt closer to my dad than to my
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And at about 7 years of age, my 
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And I remember there was a 
moment where she sat me down and

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she said, listen, you're your 
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and you're going to regret for 
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didn't love me more than your 
dad because I'm not going to be 

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there for you. 
And I had this moment of 

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abandonment where I felt so 
wounded and betrayed by my 

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mother. 
I also think that women will 

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tend to actually open up their 
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And when you've opened up your 
heart to somebody and you've 

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been that intimate, they can 
wound you intimately. 

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I've been hurt by men, but I've 
been wounded by women. 

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And so I was super excited when 
I gave birth to four boys. 

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I would tell my husband, I don't
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I'm not really like those other 
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I have a man's brain in a 
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And John would say things like, 
I'm actually not comfortable 

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with that. 
I used to think I don't like 

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women, I don't like women, I 
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I'm not really a woman. 
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more masculine than I am 
feminine. 

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And I was really comfortable 
with all that until God 

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confronted me and said, I like 
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I actually love women. 
I actually created woman as the 

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answer to the very first 
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And then I had to sit down and 
realize that my hatred towards 

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women was the problem. 
And God said, all right, we're 

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going to deal with this wound 
that you got from your mom. 

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We're going to deal with this 
because you're so scared of 

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having daughters. 
You've had all sons, but I've 

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called you to minister to women 
and I can't have you minister 

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out of a bitterness. 
So I'm going to speak healing 

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into your life when it comes to 
your womanhood. 

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And I was like, how are you 
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I, I never had that woman who 
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strength into my life. 
And he said, you're going to 

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write it backwards and 
everything you wish another 

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woman would have been to you, 
You just begin to be. 

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I have found out that the very 
things I didn't like about women

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were the things that we were 
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beginning of time, which 
actually time began with the 

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fall. 
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there has been a very special 
hatred between the woman and the

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serpent. 
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because so many people are like,
oh wow, what happened here? 

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Well, it's interesting that God 
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Now enmity is an interesting 
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It's not used often. 
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longer it exists, the greater it
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Enmity is always in an opposite 
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serpent are in a a state of 
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And when God said, I'm going to 
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the serpent and the woman's seed
and the enemy's seed, he 

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actually was saying to the 
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to be a problem. 
To the serpent, there should be 

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no agreement between the woman 
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And then we Fast forward to 
Revelations and we find a 

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Revelations 1217. 
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with the woman and went to make 
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This is what we have going on 
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He hates that we carry life. 
He hates that we birth life. 

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He hates that we are women. 
He hates women. 

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He hates men too, but he hates 
women with a very specific 

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hatred. 
And we're watching that hatred 

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express itself in different 
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We see it in misogyny. 
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We see it in oppression. 
But we also see it when women 

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deny their femininity and 
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be a woman and want to be men. 
I often think that the feminist 

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mindset is the most anti female 
mindset because it says to 

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women, if you want to be 
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man. 
But I don't want to act like a 

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man, I want to act like a woman.
Right now we have a big battle 

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on the forefront. 
We have culture sexualizing what

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it means to be a woman. 
We've got men dressing up and 

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presenting as women. 
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presentation of men as women. 
We've got the church out there 

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saying, oh, this is all because 
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We need to silence them. 
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the in between of silencing and 
sexualization, and that is a 

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terrible space for us to find 
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I do believe that we are living 
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needs the voice of woman, that 
God created woman for a answer 

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to a very, very specific 
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God said it's not good for man 
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women have been acting like men,
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position of being alone. 
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everything but one another. 
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dominion over women, and women 
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men. 
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was the women tried to wrestle 
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oppress the women, and both of 
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female, found themselves in 
positions of weaknesses rather 

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than positions of strength. 
And I am believing that God is 

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saying I need my daughters to 
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of what it means to be a 
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it means to be a mother, what it
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means to be a professional 
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woman and all of our frailty and
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our beauty and all of our 
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You know, so often, John, I'll 
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it'll seem like 1 is strong and 
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Or, you know, if the husband is 
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be really passive, or if the 
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has to be passive. 
But the truth is God does not 

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look at it that way. 
God loves strong men and strong 

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women. 
God has always created male and 

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female to be a power union. 
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and the other person is less 
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That is actually a power 
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That is one person saying I'm 
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I don't have anything to bring 
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So I just need you to fulfill my
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No, God wants us to both have 
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strength that He wove into us 
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The reason I'm doing this 
podcast, The Fight for a Female,

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is I want other women to find 
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I believe that just as cowardice
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contagious. 
And I believe that when you hear

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other women having hard 
conversations, you're going to 

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realize they're not alone. 
You know, initially I was 

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shocked that so many people 
became angry when I would even 

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say something like, hey, men are
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need women to be women and men 
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People would jump on me. 
I remember 1 quote that I posted

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that said our culture has 
wrongly equated loving everyone 

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with approving of everything. 
It was actually a quote from a 

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book I wrote years back. 
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you're a transphobe, you're a 
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We can't believe who are you 
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I was like, what in the world? 
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if we get attacked. 
As a matter of fact, I I feel 

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that we need to actually recover
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The more people that find their 
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courageous, the more the truth 
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But I get it. 
I get it. 

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I've had so many people DM me, 
so many people send me text 

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messages, say I'm so glad you're
speaking up, that you're talking

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about that biological sex is 
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is woven in our in the womb of 
wonder. 

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It's woven within us in our 
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We're so glad you're saying 
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that we should say something. 
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gender, or I'm just going to 
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you actually are attacking the 
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us in his image, male and 
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And when we begin to blend the 
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God made in wonder. 
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It's scary, but we cannot afford
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We have to use our voice. 
We've got to speak up for those 

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who don't have a voice. 
And I'm hoping, I'm hoping that 

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in this podcast we'll have 
conversations that you can 

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actually recover some courage, 
get some strategy because we're 

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not fighting with people. 
We're fighting with an enemy who

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wants to unmake those who are 
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I want to fight to see women 
realize what it means to be a 

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woman, what it means to be a 
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See, woman is our creation name.
It is not something we can just 

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be careless with. 
It is something that was 

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God-given and God gave woman as 
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So many times we see culture 
actually elevate women at the 

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expense of men or elevate men at
the expense of women, but God is

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the one who said men and women 
together is what is so very, 

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very good. 
And so I believe that female is 

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something worth fighting for. 
I believe that we have to 

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recover what we have lost, that 
we have to recover what we've 

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laid aside. 
We've got to recover what the 

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enemy has stolen from us. 
Because from the beginning of 

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time till the end of the time, 
there's been a battle between a 

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serpent that grows into a 
dragon, between one woman and an

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army of women and all of the 
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And this is something for the 
women to fight. 

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And we better find our voice and
fight this battle now because 

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our children are at risk and our
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And it is time that we begin to 
flourish in what we know to be 

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true rather than just shrink, 
afraid that people are going to 

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say we're being judgmental. 
So today I have my 

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daughter-in-law, Christian. 
But if you're joining me and 

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we're going to be talking about 
what it means, what the fight 

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for female means and why it's 
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Lisa, I just want to thank you 
for embracing women into your 

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world. 
I can only imagine what that's 

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like going from 4 boys and your 
husband and your home to having 

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estrogen around you again. 
But I want to ask you, you 

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obviously saw up close how boys 
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things in the world. 
What is a good way for women to 

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fight the things we're up 
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Because we know the bad fighting
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It's isolation. 
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But I wonder what are the good 
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things we come up against? 
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some of the strategies right 
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think whenever you constantly 
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you have to tear other people 
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When you feel shamed, you're 
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When you feel blamed, you're 
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attack other people because I 
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from this rich pain. 
I do feel that women could 

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celebrate one another without 
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I mean, like, we, you know, you 
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the Barbie movie. 
It's like the Barbies every 

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morning. 
Hi. 

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Hi. 
Yeah, They love each other, they

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celebrate each other. 
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All beautiful. 
And the guys, they're annoying. 

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Did you see the poster? 
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I didn't. 
It said she's everything. 

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He's just kin. 
Just just kin. 

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Just kin. 
I'm like. 

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Why is that the headline on 
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No, it's not. 
It's not OK and and I think 

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again, it's the wrong mindset. 
I don't love people that are the

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same as me. 
I need iron that's going to 

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sharpen my iron. 
And so I like female friendships

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that are going to challenge me, 
and I love that my husband 

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challenges me. 
He's going to see things in my 

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life I'm going to completely 
miss, and other females are 

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going to completely miss. 
But I do feel like we need to 

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fight by flourishing. 
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is people trying to fight by 
arguing and, and you know, going

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back to this whole idea of like,
we're fighting with something 

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that is unreasonable. 
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try to reason with something 
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mean, what is this? 
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men can be women and women can 
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Well, that creates all of this 
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And and women tend to be very 
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right, if you want to be a 
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woman. 
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We can't do that. 
Now, that doesn't mean we're 

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hateful. 
That doesn't mean we attack 

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people. 
We're obviously not physically 

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as strong as men, but it does 
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with wisdom and kindness and we 
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need to talk about if we remain 
silent, what happens to the next

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generation. 
I mean, the whole Proverbs 31 

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woman, if you push aside 
everything else, which is she 

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said a lot of great things, but 
she says to her son, speak up 

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for those who have lost their 
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And I feel like right now, by 
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attitude and posture of men, 
they've lost their voice of 

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actually what it means to be a 
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True, true. 
There's a Chinese proverb and I 

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want to say it's probably from 
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that the enemies tactic is to 
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talking. 
And I'm just seeing we're 

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fighting so many other things 
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Like I don't even know what to 
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I'm just gonna start swinging at
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And what we've talked about that
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talking about fighting for women
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It's like, well, what are who 
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Because to me it's like, well, a
woman can be anything and she 

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can be this and she doesn't have
to have virtue. 

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I'm like, no, I want to know. 
And I love listening to you as 

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you have these conversations. 
What does a Proverbs 31? 

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What is a godly woman? 
What does she look? 

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Like when I love, there's so 
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I mean, I get when I first read,
I was like, that is impossible. 

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Of course she has help. 
I mean she has I'm I'm like my 

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husband. 
If you give me handmaidens, I 

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could be godly too. 
Like this is very different. 

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But I feel like that was a 
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can actually consider a field 
and buy it. 

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You can actually be a merchant. 
You can actually laugh at the 

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future, not live in fear. 
You can actually be part of 

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clothing your household in 
scarlet that that means like she

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brings the righteousness of God 
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That and I feel like two men, 
many women are saying, OK, that 

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means godly women totally stay 
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Submission only. 
And, and right or, or I can be a

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man and I'm the leader of 
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And right now, those are really 
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Now, I'm not against trad wife 
if the trad wife is like, I love

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being home, caring for my 
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household. 
I feel like the school system is

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not healthy right now in my 
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my children would flourish at 
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I really feel like we fight by 
flourishing first in our 

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marriages, first in, well, first
in our relationship with God, 

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then in our marriages, if we're 
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community, if we're single. 
And as our families, we 

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flourish. 
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communities flourish. 
And right now it's, it's we're 

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fighting the wrong thing and we 
need to fight to flourish 

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because we're, we're vineyards. 
And right now God is like, Hey, 

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I'm pruning some stuff, and 
pruning is an awkward time 

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period. 
Because you feel naked and I 

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feel like right now we're in 
that in between of either going 

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to be a boss babe or I'm going 
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And both of those are extreme 
and God's like, how about you? 

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Let me prune you right and bring
forth the fruit I created you to

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bring forth. 
And sometimes that's just a very

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awkward in between. 
Yeah, but there's fruit in both 

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of those. 
And so that's where we have this

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division. 
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in the beginning, if we're just,
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of course it's going to be 
comparison or scrutiny to some 

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other woman. 
But there's fruit in both of 

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those. 
There's fruit in being a mother 

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and being a wife and being 
someone that takes care of her 

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home, but then also someone 
that's career driven, as you're 

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saying, Proverbs 31, she chooses
fine linen, she chooses of the 

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field. 
So she has that entrepreneurial 

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spirit. 
And I know a lot of the women 

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listening to this are listening 
because they love how you've 

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pioneered that and. 
I think, I think you can do 

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both, it just can look different
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And I, I think that people try 
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it gets really awkward and 
uncomfortable. 

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And then I didn't have this 
dynamic of while I was doing 

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awkward and uncomfortable being 
a content creator. 

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I mean, I was just going to bed.
I wasn't like, OK, how do I post

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my day? 
How do I pull my highlights? 

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How do I minimize my low lights?
I just was before God and just 

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saying, Hey, this is I messed up
with this, but I feel really 

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good about this. 
I'm going to give myself mercy 

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on this. 
I'll do better tomorrow. 

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I'm going to be slow to speak, 
quick to listen, slow to. 

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I mean, I did not have to play 
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And I feel like that's very 
difficult because people are 

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constantly dividing their time 
and their attention. 

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And we have a generation that is
more connected to their viral 

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audience than their actual 
homes. 

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And, and again, I believe in in 
working in whatever God puts 

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your hand. 
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married John, I stayed home at 
1st and I thought, I can only 

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bake bread for so long. 
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going to go get a job. 
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something that I loved and what 
I'm doing now actually had its 

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seed and what I started before I
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And so I don't like telling 
people that their marriage needs

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to look like my marriage or they
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to work. 
I feel like every single person 

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works that out with her husband 
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Do you think women today are 
more confused and and upheaval 

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about who they are because of 
that audience factor? 

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Like because they feel like they
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be the best? 
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I mean they're either they're 
either exposing their incredibly

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brokenness to people who I mean,
I don't know, I post you know, 

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you you did my reel for me today
on on Barbie and my husband, I 

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read to him a couple of the 
response. 

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He's like, why are your people 
so mean? 

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And I said people have been 
given permission to come in 

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other people's worlds and behave
in very bad ways. 

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And I, I, I don't get affected 
by it because I didn't grow up 

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in it. 
But we have a generation that is

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growing up in it, becoming 
mothers in it, becoming wives in

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it, becoming entrepreneurs are 
working in it. 

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And there's constantly hustle, 
do, do, do. 

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And I don't think they ever feel
like what they did was enough. 

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And there comes a time when you 
are fighting for female that you

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have to take a deep breath and 
say, because of Jesus, I'm more 

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than enough. 
I'm not enough. 

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I'm never going to be the best 
at everything. 

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But in him I am his daughter. 
And and again, Christian, it 

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goes back to our identity is not
rooted in our roles. 

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Our identity is rooted in who we
are in Christ. 

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And a lot of times I hear people
say, well, Imago Dei, everybody 

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is the image of God, but not 
everybody is a child of God. 

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And so there is a different 
intimacy. 

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When you're born again, you're a
son and a daughter of the living

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God. 
When you are born, you just 

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carry the image of God, which is
a beautiful, wonderful thing. 

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And everybody is created in his 
image, but not everybody is his 

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child. 
And I think sometimes the church

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gets a little confused on that. 
Because I love my son and I 

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think he looks like a great 
image of me and my husband. 

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But if he just grew up looking 
like us, but not actually in 

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stealing our family values, I 
would know, man, there's just 

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this intimacy that's longing. 
I would hope I could rear him in

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a way where he's developing. 
And if, like you're saying, 

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we're not becoming children of 
God and letting him influence us

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and give us wisdom, we are just 
going to be on this hamster 

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wheel of who am I? 
Why do I not feel like I'm 

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letting? 
Everybody define you. 

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Right. 
Yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, 

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here's the thing. 
You're playing to a, a, a, a 

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mob, you know, and we just, you 
know, looking back constantly. 

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I always look back at, you know,
Good Friday, which of course, 

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you know, is the worst day ever 
for Jesus. 

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Good Friday ended a week that 
began with Hosanna. 

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I mean, everybody's like, yay, 
Jesus, palm branches, Hosanna, 

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Hosanna Cruzanium. 
And people might say, well, it 

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wasn't always the same crowd, 
but it's always a crowd. 

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So if you look into the crowd 
for one thing, you're going to 

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play to the crowd for the next 
thing. 

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And so we at the end of the day,
Jesus dies for the crowd, but he

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doesn't live for the crowd. 
And I think that is the 

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difference is we have to be 
people who will like lay down 

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our life for the benefit of 
others, but not live our lives 

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for the for just the opinion 
and, you know, popularity with 

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other people, so. 
Good. 

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Yeah. 
And then the Barabbas thing, it 

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just started with a whisper. 
It's like, hey, well, instead of

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Jesus, we get this murderous 
guy. 

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And it is the imagery of. 
That's how we're influenced 

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today. 
Just Satan whispering 1 little 

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lie of well maybe you're not 
worth it. 

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Maybe you are not beautiful, 
maybe you are unlovable because 

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your, your parents left, 
whatever it might be. 

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I know that, and correct me if 
I'm wrong, but that's how you 

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actually started to fight for 
women because you didn't like 

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women at first, but as you saw 
God's heart for them and you 

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resonated with that, how did 
that shift go from I'm not going

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to preach to women I don't like 
women to Oh my gosh, I see how 

449
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,160
much the enemy has infiltrated 
God's daughters. 

450
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,480
Well, I mentioned that the seed 
of what I'm doing now actually 

451
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,920
started in my job. 
I became a makeup artist in 

452
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,880
Dallas, TX. 
And when you take the makeup 

453
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:52,520
awful woman in public in Dallas,
TX, you see her pain, you see 

454
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,440
her insecurities, you see her 
frailties. 

455
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,200
And all of a sudden these women 
that walked in one way, as I 

456
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,720
took their makeup off, they 
shrunk into just a a shade of 

457
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,800
what they had been when they 
walked in. 

458
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,640
And then when I put their faces 
back on, they felt confident 

459
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,560
again. 
And, and I just had such 

460
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,960
compassion when I watched that 
happening. 

461
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,480
I was very young at the time, 
but I was like, whoa, whoa, 

462
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,400
whoa. 
Women act one way, but they 

463
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,120
really are struggling with a lot
of the very same things that 

464
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:31,560
most women are wrestling with. 
They don't feel valued. 

465
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,200
They don't feel loved. 
And again, if you're looking to 

466
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,600
other people to define you, 
you're giving up all your power.

467
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,760
And so as women, we are 
beautiful because we are created

468
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,440
to be his daughters image of God
and daughter of the most high 

469
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,320
God. 
And fighting for female is to 

470
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,360
take back the value of those 
things that are uniquely ours. 

471
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,440
Like you know your mother and 
you're expecting a child. 

472
00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:01,080
A man will never be able to 
carry a baby. 

473
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,680
It is one of the most wondrous 
things that you will ever go 

474
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,960
through as a woman. 
And that is being represented as

475
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,160
children are a hindrance. 
Pregnancy is just sickness and 

476
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,800
you know, you're, you're losing 
your body. 

477
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,120
I mean, there's no beauty that 
is constantly expressed unless 

478
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:25,840
you're in the Christian realm 
about what that means to carry a

479
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,680
life and give a life and partner
with God in bringing forth life.

480
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,160
Truly, it's been the biggest 
growth for me and the most 

481
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,040
amazing blessing, and I've loved
being able to flourish, as you 

482
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,680
said, in singleness, in marriage
and in motherhood. 

483
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,360
For the woman listening that it 
wants to flourish, how does she 

484
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,400
become that godly woman that 
says, I'm going to put down 

485
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,000
gossip and then cut down 
slander? 

486
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,880
I want to rise up to that 
measure. 

487
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,120
What's your advice for walking 
in that image? 

488
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,640
Well, I, as you know, I just 
planted a garden and it's 

489
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,480
beautiful. 
Thank you. 

490
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,360
It's it's a little raised bed. 
Hopefully we're, we're getting 

491
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,560
some freeze. 
So hopefully it's going to 

492
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,760
survive. 
But when God talks about 

493
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:16,160
something flourishing, he talks 
about it as a tree planted in 

494
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,040
the right environment, planted 
by the rivers of water, bringing

495
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,320
forth fruit in its season. 
And so he he's saying it's not 

496
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,720
going to flourish in every 
season, but it's going to 

497
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,800
flourish in its fruit in the 
right season. 

498
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,160
And so as I plant things, I'm 
creating conditions for them to 

499
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,600
flourish. 
I have the right soil, I've got 

500
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,520
watering. 
I'm going to protect it from 

501
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,240
harsh environments. 
And I think in our relationships

502
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,480
as women, we have the right to 
edit our lives and make sure 

503
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,880
that we are surrounding our 
lives, our marriage, our 

504
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,160
children with what they need to 
flourish. 

505
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,400
Like, for example, you know, 
when John and I moved from 

506
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,360
Florida to Colorado, I found 
myself really wanting some 

507
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,440
friends and I had some some 
women befriend me. 

508
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,240
And their favorite thing to do 
when we all went out was to just

509
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:14,440
totally rag on their husbands. 
And I thought, you know, when, 

510
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,880
when women are all talking 
about, oh, men are just jerks, 

511
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,520
They're this. 
And then you kind of feel like, 

512
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,480
well, if I don't say my 
husband's a jerk, I'm gonna 

513
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,480
have, I'm gonna have to come up 
with something or they're going 

514
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,280
to kick me out of this group. 
And so. 

515
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,720
I Yeah. 
Your husband's a jerk. 

516
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,840
I've seen him treat you. 
Yeah. 

517
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,360
She's joking my husband's. 
Amazing. 

518
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,800
Oh no. 
So you can tell your friends 

519
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,080
that like no. 
I agree. 

520
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,840
Yeah, No, they're like and, and 
just, I mean, ridiculous. 

521
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,720
And I would, I would think, wait
a minute, do I want John to go 

522
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,640
out with guys that do this about
their wives? 

523
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,440
So I had to pull away from 
relationships that were going to

524
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,320
actually 'cause my marriage not 
to flourish. 

525
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,720
I had to say, those are 
beautiful women, but they're 

526
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,880
dangerous for me right now 
because I just went through a 

527
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,480
transition. 
I've got young boys. 

528
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,800
I've got a husband that travels.
I do not need the worst 

529
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,160
highlighted in my husband's 
life. 

530
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,960
I need the best. 
So that would be friendships, 

531
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,640
you know, friendships you've got
to have friendships that are 

532
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,440
your iron, sharpening iron 
friendships. 

533
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,520
Everybody doesn't need a 
girlfriend that agrees with 

534
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,920
them. 
Some of us need some girlfriends

535
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,720
that call us higher, that say, 
what are you saying? 

536
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,560
What are you thinking? 
You can't act that way. 

537
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,760
What does the word of God say? 
We need people who will hold our

538
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,680
feet to the fire of God's word. 
I have friends like that and I'm

539
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,440
going to say this, in our life, 
we don't have a lot of those 

540
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,080
friendships, but we should 
treasure the ones that we have. 

541
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,040
So that's flourishing in our 
friendships. 

542
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,200
And then do what you love, do 
what you love and do what you 

543
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,600
want to do, what you're doing in
this season to your best of 

544
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,720
ability. 
Because when we're faithful, 

545
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,840
we'll flourish in another 
season. 

546
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,560
And too many women are despising
one season. 

547
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,920
That is a preparation season 
expecting they're going to 

548
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,080
flourish in the next season. 
So know this season of your 

549
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,840
life, the season of your 
friendship, the season of your 

550
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,240
parenting season of your 
marriage. 

551
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,160
Know that season. 
Know what causes it to grow and 

552
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,440
flourish in that season and 
don't neglect it in one season 

553
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,960
because you're longing for the 
next season. 

554
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,080
So I think women having friends 
that call them to godliness 

555
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,480
bring out their best, not just 
you go girl, but friends that 

556
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,160
are like, you're going to go 
girl the wrong way unless you 

557
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,800
deal with some of this stuff. 
Because we find so many people 

558
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,920
that have risen to high success,
entrepreneur women who are 

559
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,360
broken marriages, broken 
relationships with their 

560
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,040
children, broken relationship 
with their friendships, and they

561
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,400
don't feel like they're 
flourishing even though maybe 

562
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,680
they're wealthy when it comes to
finances. 

563
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,960
So we want women to flourish 
spirit, soul and body, and we're

564
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,680
going to actually have direct 
conversations and hard truth 

565
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,440
around that. 
I believe there is a war against

566
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,440
women, and I believe this is a 
war that God is going to equip 

567
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,440
us to win. 
I believe that the enemy is 

568
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,440
fighting everything that is 
female because he is terrified 

569
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,160
that you are going to wake up 
and discover the woman that God 

570
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,800
wove you in your mother's womb 
to be. 

571
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,080
God has His hand on your life 
for this moment, for this fight,

572
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,960
and we are committed to growing 
you in godliness and strength. 

573
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,080
We are not going to back down 
from truth, but we're going to 

574
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,120
speak the truth that transforms 
your life in Jesus name.

