1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:06,000 Who you marry is one of the most important predictors of your 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:11,360 whole life, for you were praying for my son long before he became 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,440 your husband. If we can pray for our future 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,600 children, why can't we pray for our future husband? 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,080 Oh that's just idol. That's like name it and claim 6 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:20,600 it. No, I think it is partnering in 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,800 faith. I am hearing so much that men 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,320 are reaching their 30s and have never asked a woman out. 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,000 And then just pull the Band-Aid off. 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,320 Like you will get rejected by some women but that doesn't 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,120 determine your worth. I had to pray. 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,160 I said, God, I have terrible taste in men. 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:42,200 I need to surrender what I think my ideal man is for who you know 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,360 I need. I wonder, was that one of your 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,440 prayers? Yeah. 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,640 Welcome to the Lisa Bevier podcast and you guys. 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:01:00,120 Everywhere I go, I'm meeting young women and not so young 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,080 women that are saying where are the men? 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,520 They're like, I want to be a wife, I want to be a mother. 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:13,520 And we just cannot seem to find men who feel the same way. 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,520 Now, we're going to be talking as women, but that doesn't mean 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,280 this is exclusively for women. If you're out there and you've 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,520 got a single brother, he's going to want to watch this. 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,920 If you are a mom and you wish your son would get married, he's 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,520 going to want to watch this. Because we're going to be 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,600 talking about some key elements that speak to the problem where 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:38,600 why can't these beautiful young godly women meet beautiful young 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,760 godly men? So I am so excited about today's 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,160 podcast. I am hosting my beautiful 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,400 daughter-in-law, Christian Bevier, and she has written a 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,720 powerful prayer journal and book around this purpose that maybe 32 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,480 all of you need to be praying for somebody you haven't met 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,000 yet. Christian, welcome to the Least 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,880 Bevier podcast. Thank you so much. 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,840 It's fun to be wearing a different hat in my guest seat. 36 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:07,960 You. Get to be the guest. 37 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:13,080 Yes, well, Kristen, I know this has been a labor for you for a 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,760 long time. This has been something you've 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:20,200 poured heart and soul into. And I, I'm so excited to be able 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,760 to highlight this today. You have the Dear Future Husband 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:29,680 podcast and you are already speaking to so many women who 42 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,640 are saying, what about me? I did not expect to still be 43 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:36,680 looking, waiting. Why am I not seen? 44 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:39,000 And so many women have turned to you. 45 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,920 And I know you've been such a source of encouragement, but I 46 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:46,360 know that you and I have a little bit of a different story 47 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,640 because you were praying for my son long before he became your 48 00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:53,920 husband. And can you share why that 49 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:56,800 wasn't just enough for you to be like, OK, great, yay, I got my 50 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,240 husband's, our girls. Hope, hope it works out for you. 51 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,040 Why are you marking a trail for the the other women? 52 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,520 Yeah, well, First off, I saw how astronomically different Arden 53 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,280 was from even where I was starting to believe my husband 54 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,440 would be an act. It was, you know, when I first 55 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,840 started dating, I thought, Oh my goodness. 56 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Handsome, godly, all the things. Yes, that's what he's going to 57 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,280 be. And you do get discouraged when 58 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,360 either you're looking and you're not seeing that caliber of men 59 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,800 in your community or you're dating and you're getting your 60 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,240 heart broken even by men in the church. 61 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,800 That's a sad reality a lot of women say nowadays. 62 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,520 I'm sure you've heard that, too. Where you go? 63 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,120 Yeah. And so I felt my idea of what 64 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,840 kind of relationship I specifically could enter into or 65 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,480 what kind of caliber men were out there was dwindling. 66 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,000 And the temptation to settle or compare or complain was really 67 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,320 rising to the point of I graduated college, go back home 68 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,640 to the same job I was doing before college, which felt like 69 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,360 or that was a lot of wasted money. 70 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,720 I think a lot of people are coming to that conclusion. 71 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,800 Yeah, my parents feel that way about more. 72 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,880 They, they're in Jesus. They're they're with Jesus now. 73 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,120 But it was definitely a waste for me as well. 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,800 Well, I just came to this place of man. 75 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,920 My friends are getting the dream jobs, they're getting the dream 76 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,200 guys, they're getting married. And here I am at home with Ben 77 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,360 and Jerry's on a Friday night. Like, what am I doing wrong? 78 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,400 And you know, that's kind of A2 fold question because I do think 79 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,480 that the Lord always wants to sharpen us, whether you're 80 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,240 single or married, sharpen us to grow into better versions of his 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,600 character and to be better wives to our husband, not just to get 82 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,520 the man like. Be better humans. 83 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,120 Seriously, and we all need that grace daily. 84 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:42,040 And I found myself in this place of God going, Lord, what if I 85 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,320 started to believe that's contrary to the promise you gave 86 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,920 me. What's even contrary to what's 87 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,560 possible in your heart for marriage? 88 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,240 And he did a deep work in me of let's refine that. 89 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,480 Let's even address why you are looking for a spouse, the kind 90 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,960 of spouse you're looking for, what you believe about marriage. 91 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,720 And it was incredibly refining, humbling and also nurturing to 92 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,720 me in that time. And so I just watched as the 93 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,840 Lord highlighted things I had believed for when I was a little 94 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:09,520 girl and saying I can still do that. 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,240 That's still possible. I still make men that are made 96 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,360 in my image. And boy was art. 97 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,720 And so, I mean, I thank you for raising him to be an incredible 98 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,160 man. And I just shared a little bit, 99 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,000 I think early on, and this is before, you know, I probably had 100 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,560 like 500 people on Instagram. We moved to Nashville and these 101 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,480 girls I'd never met, these girls that are beautiful, thriving and 102 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,000 great communities serving in the church, they come up to me and 103 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,680 they're like, I started doing like your husband's Bible is 104 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,920 what I called it because I mean, it wasn't a thing when I was 105 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,520 doing it back then. And like I started doing that 106 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,200 like I'm believing and I was like, who are you? 107 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,120 And how did you find like that one random video I shared? 108 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,840 And so I just saw it really tapped into this connection 109 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:54,560 point between women of like, how do you wait in faith, believe 110 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,240 with expectation, you know, not grow weary, but also not become 111 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,960 obsessed. And it's like really this fine 112 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:03,640 tension point of multiple things underlying within singleness 113 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,160 within dating that I found. Wow. 114 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,640 We really just need want a space to talk about this not in 115 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,080 worldly form because, you know, there is so much like be a boss 116 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,600 babe who cares or like, put yourself out there too much. 117 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,160 And so I just wanted a safe place for women to have 118 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,320 conversations and then also pour in hope because I think I 119 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,600 accidentally stumbled into something that's a beautiful 120 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,840 version of faith. Not because I had a lot or I 121 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:28,120 always did dating well, but I'm thinking, wow, this is such a 122 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,360 gift that I got to walk into. Why would I not share with other 123 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,080 women? And the truth is you're not 124 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,920 saying if you buy this book and you pray these prayers and you, 125 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:41,240 you like deep dive into the word of God, your man is going to 126 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,040 magically appear. What you're actually saying is 127 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,400 don't post in your life. There's like this transformative 128 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,280 journey for you and, and you know, and the truth is we all 129 00:06:52,280 --> 00:06:58,640 want, we all want to be loved, to be seen, to be nurtured in 130 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,640 our God-given talents. And there's a lot of people that 131 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,560 are married that are not finding that in their marriage and 132 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,600 they're finding that where you actually get that is in your 133 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,240 intimate relationship with Jesus Christ and the with the word of 134 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,280 God. So I love that. 135 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,960 And so all these women coming up to you and you're like, wait, 136 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,360 wait, I didn't know what I started. 137 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,160 And so you did the podcast and then you actually, and this is 138 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,360 probably very vulnerable for you, you actually took some of 139 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:33,640 your strategy, your prayers, your longing because tell the 140 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,560 story of what you gave Arden on your wedding day. 141 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,880 Yes, easily my fondest memory of our wedding day. 142 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,920 One, because there's just so much to plan that no one tells 143 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,680 you about that you do feel a little bridezilla. 144 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,480 But I gave Arden this again when I called my husband's Bible, and 145 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,400 it was full of prayers and letters and things I had wrote 146 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,320 and prayed over him for months before I'd even met him. 147 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,600 And it was like this treasure box for me of like, hey, this is 148 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,040 what I poured my heart into. This is where my belief was. 149 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,960 Even when I thought, how on earth could I meet a good guy in 150 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,000 small town Alabama? I had this hope that you were 151 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,920 coming. And he didn't know about it. 152 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,840 I didn't tell him about this beforehand. 153 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,600 And so Alex sends him on the scavenger hunt the day of. 154 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,640 And, you know, he'd go get some coffee and all this stuff. 155 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,160 And then it ends with him opening this book and just 156 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,760 reading the letters. And you know, I had thought, and 157 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,760 you probably could relate to this too, in the times of when I 158 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,360 had mismanaged my own heart and others heart and dating, I 159 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,320 thought, wow, this is what I'm going to give to my husband on 160 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,799 our wedding day like this broken hearted girl. 161 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,840 And this is such a sweet redemption moment because I 162 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,600 thought, yes, that is a reality. And I'm not going to pretend 163 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,560 I've been perfect. But I also get to give this gift 164 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,960 of look what can happen when you pray and you are intentional, 165 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,840 whether it's been one month or 10 years, right? 166 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,240 And so I just got this brown book off of Amazon and I thought 167 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,200 brown leather, yes, that's a dude's Bible and started praying 168 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,200 into it. So the Dear Future Husband 169 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,720 Prairie Journal is my way of OK, let's let's create the rhythm 170 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,760 that I created and I found as I was going through this and let 171 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,280 it just be a launching pad as they write letters and prayers 172 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,200 to their future husband. 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That she had an entire 195 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:30,840 engagement link and hey, this is this is the countdown and and to 196 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,200 be honest. I was like, are you engaged? 197 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,760 And you didn't tell me Like what is this? 198 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,960 What is happening? I'm not falling for you, but. 199 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,800 That is just showing this, I mean, sweet, hopeful, but 200 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,720 misplaced. And so I feel like you said, OK, 201 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,600 I'm not mocking that. I understand that longing to be 202 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,920 loved, to be connected to, to dream. 203 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,480 But I'm going to put, I'm going to put it, I'm going to reframe 204 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,760 it in, in God's mindset and strategy behind it. 205 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:03,640 And so I I love that you said, OK, let's let's pray for that, 206 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,680 that person, but not that specific. 207 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,440 Yeah. Yeah, and I think that's key 208 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,520 because I think a lot of my early dating, that longing was 209 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,280 still very much there, but it was put into the first date or 210 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,200 the chi like, will you feel this? 211 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,040 Will you show me? Will you romance me? 212 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,880 Will you see me and value me? And this really kind of changed 213 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,240 the the pot, if you will. I started putting those into my 214 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,360 prayers. And then when I met Arden, I was 215 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,960 less, tell me you love me and you know, all the things I was 216 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,720 like, hold on, are you the real deal? 217 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,200 Like, can I trust you? And I think, you know, the idea 218 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,320 is that you have to put up this wall of like, well, I'm content 219 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,200 and I'm single until the Lord brings me my husband. 220 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:45,800 I think if we try to mask that desire, we're just going to put 221 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,640 it in a different position. And what I'm encouraging women 222 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,160 is don't pretend that desire is not there. 223 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,480 Bring it to God so he can either redirect the timing, 224 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,760 restrengthen things in your heart is your why and your 225 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,600 motives. But then also you're saying, 226 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,080 Lord, like, will you partner with me in this rather than 227 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,720 trying my own strength? Then let me just tell you that 228 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,280 was tenfold more successful when I did it that way rather than 229 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,840 the other way. Not even just because I got 230 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,160 married, but because, you know, I stopped settling. 231 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,920 I stopped looking constantly like when I entered a room. 232 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,280 Who's going to notice me? And so I just think it's a 233 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,560 better posture for our heart to say, Lord, will you direct me in 234 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:23,640 this rather than feeling hopeless or feeling like I have 235 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,160 to make it happen? What is what is the one of the 236 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,320 key things that when you actually assumed a very 237 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,160 different posture that that first of all surprised you that 238 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,520 God did in your heart. What is what is one of those 239 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,880 things and and how did that work its way out? 240 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,600 You already said how you had a different posture when you met 241 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,600 Arden, that you weren't like, oh, pick me, but you were like, 242 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,480 Hey, I, I don't want to mess. And you know, you wouldn't have 243 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,360 known, but Arden was already in this. 244 00:12:54,680 --> 00:12:56,960 He had a conversation with me and I remember he just said, 245 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:02,480 mom, I really feel like the next state stage of my personal 246 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,040 growth is going to include marriage. 247 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:09,000 And you know, I don't even, it wasn't like he thought, oh, I'm 248 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,560 going to dominate someone and be the boss of somebody else's 249 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:14,680 work. He really knew that there were 250 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:18,920 certain things in his life that need to be worked out by loving 251 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,600 someone, providing for some bed and being loved by someone. 252 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,280 So was there something that surprised you that you found 253 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,800 that God put His finger on in your life while you were praying 254 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,280 for whoever that future husband was? 255 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:40,680 Yeah, I, I feel like even the ability to hope was transformed. 256 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,680 It was so much of like hoping I can be pretty enough to like win 257 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:46,680 the right guy or I can be articulate enough. 258 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:49,640 You know, it was so much of how can I show up, which I think was 259 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,320 rooted in a lot of performance for me, for my, you know, 260 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,920 background and tendencies. And so it it kind of showed me I 261 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,840 needed to release control. And the more I did that, the 262 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,320 more the Lord would show me just like different puzzle pieces. 263 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,280 I really believe Jeremiah 33 three can relate to dating as 264 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,400 well. Like I will show you hidden 265 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:14,680 things because I, I mean, I started praying for my husband 266 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:18,040 and he aligned times where I needed to really intercede on 267 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,720 his behalf. And when Arden and I were 268 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,280 engaged, he would tell me stories of things he had gone 269 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,840 through. And I was like, wait, what day 270 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,040 was that? Go back in the husband's Bible 271 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,800 And it was the exact month, like even to the week of like praying 272 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,640 for him intensely. And then he gave me a dream of 273 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,240 what Arden would look like to the point where I went to sleep 274 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,240 one night and I have this dream where I'm walking out onto like 275 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,600 this patio and it's like this mountainous area, which, you 276 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,040 know, we, we lived in Colorado. So I didn't know that at the 277 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,680 time, but that was a confirmation. 278 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,200 And then I see you're. From lower Alabama, so you were 279 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,440 not used to mountains. There's no hills or anything. 280 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,280 I was like, huh, where, where are we going? 281 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,160 And I walk out and I see these people clapping. 282 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,840 I can still remember like it was yesterday. 283 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,960 And I'm like, OK, what's going on? 284 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:03,200 And I look down and I'm holding hands with someone, and I look 285 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,800 up and it's this statuesque leader of a man with, like, 286 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,840 curly, WAVY hair and glasses. And he said, it's our engagement 287 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,520 party. And I woke up like, OK, that man 288 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,720 is someone I've never met. I like what I see. 289 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,000 And I'm not going to use that as a confirmation to give me the 290 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,240 next step. But that is going to be like 291 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,400 something I'm going to tuck away. 292 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,760 And what's really sweet is I very much thought I was a 293 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,520 hopeless romantic before I met Arden. 294 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,720 Like always, you know how it is when you're looking for someone, 295 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,600 You're like, go to church and oh, there's a cute guy. 296 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,440 Like, could that be the one? Like, you're constantly on high 297 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,280 alert. And that being such an intimate 298 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,400 and vivid piece, I actually forgot about until our second 299 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,800 date when he put his glasses on, which normally I would be like, 300 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,280 can you give me any confirmation? 301 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,400 Like I am looking for something to go forth. 302 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,520 And so that to me was I thought I had the Lord on because it was 303 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,920 so vivid, but then it also was protected. 304 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,960 It wasn't like I'm going to use this from God and exchange it, 305 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,200 but almost like he gave me a glimpse of something, but then 306 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,120 protected it so that his prompting would still leave me. 307 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,520 And I think that's the gentlemanness of God in in 308 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,400 dating and in those even not dating those times of like, 309 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,600 Lord, will you show me the right job? 310 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,720 Will you show me the place? You know, Lisa, I think one of 311 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,360 the verses that women look up to a lot when they're trying to 312 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,360 become a great quality woman and a great wife one day is Proverbs 313 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,880 31 of like, how do I how do I carry myself? 314 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,800 Like, what do I do? But what I actually get when I 315 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,400 was researching this book is Proverbs 31 is not just how a 316 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,840 woman should act. It's a mother's directive to her 317 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,080 future. You know, the women after her of 318 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,800 Hey, you can pray. She says child of my womb, like 319 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,160 answer to my prayers. And so her first instruction is 320 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,480 pray for the people you love, pray for the men in your life. 321 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,440 And so I see this woman praying for this child that will come. 322 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,040 We see that with Hannah. We see that throughout the 323 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,320 Bible. And so if we can pray for our 324 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,960 future children, why can't we pray for our future husband? 325 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,480 So many people are like, oh, that's just idol. 326 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,800 That's like name it and claim it. 327 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,120 No, I think it is partnering in faith with a strong desire. 328 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,800 And we see that time and time again that the Lord answers 329 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,760 prayer. He hears our prayers. 330 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,480 And even in Hannah's case, he remembers prayers that have been 331 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,280 decades longer than we thought the answer would come. 332 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,240 And so I love when women lean in with prayer for those desires. 333 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,079 I love that. And, you know, he actually tells 334 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:20,680 us to pray. Without. 335 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:26,640 Ceasing Jesus says ask, ask that my Father might be glorified. 336 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,160 And there's been so many times where if I don't ask, I don't 337 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:35,520 actually recognize the answer. But if I have asked, then when I 338 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,720 see the answer, I recognize the answer. 339 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,200 And I, I feel like you're saying you're asking women to and, and 340 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,760 I would even say guys, but specifically right now to frame 341 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,640 things so that when you see it, you'll know it. 342 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,800 Right. And then just on the other side 343 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,960 of that, if I can play devil's advocate, James says you have 344 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,920 not because you ask. That's right. 345 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,560 You may ask one time, but the Bible says, like you said, to 346 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,240 pray without ceasing. So have you stopped asking God 347 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:07,920 to bring your future spouse? You know, I had to and again, 348 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,360 like I've been married 43 years now, so I have I'm having to 349 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:12,640 pull deep into my memory banks. I had to pray. 350 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:19,080 I said, God, I have terrible taste in men and I need to 351 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:25,480 surrender what I think my ideal man is for who you know, I need 352 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,840 like you know, what is best for me to grow in godliness, to grow 353 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,640 in love, to grow in kindness, whatever the whatever the lack 354 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:39,360 of area is. And I, I wonder, was that one of 355 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:42,600 your prayers? Yeah, I thought. 356 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,880 And I think this ties back to what I was looking for was 357 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,320 trying to validate something within me, like I need to be 358 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,160 with a creative. So then I have permission to be 359 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,120 a creative. I need to be with, you know, the 360 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,320 how they paint the guys in movies nowadays of like the soft 361 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,720 listener because like, I just wanted someone to see me and 362 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,320 value me. And Arden is a great listener, 363 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,360 but he's like stoic and he's determined. 364 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:09,200 And you know, he's a lot more like my dad than I ever 365 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,600 anticipated. A little bit like your dad. 366 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,840 High school photos of them side by side, It's. 367 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,600 It was. Surprising, yes. 368 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,720 So that was something even, you know, everyone hears you'll date 369 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,600 your dad and I was like, no, I won't like I'm going to be a 370 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,280 trendsetter, my own thing. And yeah, I think to me, the 371 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,240 Lord is so kind to partners with someone that strengthens US, 372 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,320 amplifies, you know, qualities within us. 373 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,800 Because I heard in church, just find someone that's cute and 374 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,880 loves Jesus. And if that were true, you could 375 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,680 just eenie meenie my eenie meenie minie MO in church. 376 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,040 So you find you. Do you don't believe that? 377 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,280 I don't, because I do hear that a lot. 378 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,480 Just find someone and marry them. 379 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,160 Yeah. So I do. 380 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,800 I do think that the truth is somewhere in between, I think 381 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,320 you've got people that are like, there's the one, the one and 382 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,920 they forget sometimes that that person grows into being the one. 383 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,080 And then there is the other thing of just the, there's a 384 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,840 girl, just grab her, marry her, you know. 385 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,840 So I, I don't, I think that I think there's dangers on both of 386 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:18,800 those extremes. But I think right now we've the 387 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,920 church would make it. All spiritual, just grab 388 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,040 somebody and then the world makes it all experiential, you 389 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:31,080 know, sleep with the person, you know, date or whatever that is. 390 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,760 Try them out before you buy it. All that kind of stuff. 391 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,280 It's so it's so demeaning to both people involved. 392 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:44,120 And so I love this idea that you're inviting God back into 393 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:48,120 the center of a relationship. And I do think and I, I think 394 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,280 you know you, you're hearing this more and more. 395 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:57,960 That is one who you marry is one of the most important predictors 396 00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:02,240 of your whole life forward. And so I don't think we can be 397 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,800 casual with it and just pick anybody. 398 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,600 I do think though, once we have committed, we are committed and 399 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,160 then we make sure we have a standard that we're building, 400 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,560 You know, we're building our lives on. 401 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,840 There's a foundational thing. But I do think too many people 402 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,640 are looking for the romanticized, soft spoken baby 403 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,720 boy. Just listen to me. 404 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,520 Just that's my. Heart because of what culture is 405 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,680 pushing of like the toxic masculinity. 406 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,840 But I yeah the you're so right I saying those two things and I do 407 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,560 think that requires I need the Lord's prompting one because not 408 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,560 every relationship is going to follow the same formula. 409 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,960 Maybe you're friends for for years or you meet and you fall 410 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,440 in love instantly and you know the same is true of like the 411 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,480 type of person you're looking for the confirmation of how you 412 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,240 know though the one. But I do think though the one 413 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,560 side of just pick someone is dangerous because I love all my 414 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,560 brother in laws. I'm sure you love all your your 415 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,120 daughter in But if we just played swap, I think that would 416 00:21:56,120 --> 00:22:00,160 be catastrophic because there's unique instruments to each of us 417 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,840 that creates that partnership that is long lasting, that is 418 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,360 sustainable. But then, yeah, on the other 419 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:10,400 side, I, I think sometimes we use the one or red flags as a 420 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,240 way of self protection because maybe making that choice is 421 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,640 scary. Or like you said, you've picked 422 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,520 the wrong one in the past and you're scared to make that 423 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,280 mistake again. So it's like, well, you know, 424 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,000 he's not the one because this or that. 425 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,200 So it is somewhere in between. And I believe, you know, as much 426 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,440 as I love good dating advice and strong testimonies, only the 427 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,880 Lord can confirm that for someone. 428 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,640 But you have to be open to his voice. 429 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,920 You have to be open to growth. And yeah, willing to say, OK, 430 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,920 maybe I'm going to meet him somewhere I thought in a 431 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,640 different timeline than I thought, or I have to do some 432 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,880 more work than I thought. But it's worth it to have, you 433 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,000 know, that solid confirmation so you don't question your decision 434 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,280 on the hard days or the hard seasons because every even good 435 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,760 marriages go through that. Absolutely. 436 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,560 And I want it just just to reiterate to somebody that's 437 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,720 sitting out there who has done all this, who has prayed, who 438 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,440 has been godly, who's done the deep dive and God, if there's 439 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,720 any displeasing, thank God, you know, I want to say to that 440 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,360 person out there, it isn't that you didn't do enough. 441 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:10,480 And that's why you're not meeting that person. 442 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,080 It's not God saying, Oh no, I'm sorry, you, you still need to 443 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,960 because I'm just going to say I was a hot mess when I married 444 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,400 John. I didn't know I was, I thought, 445 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,160 Hey, I'm I'm probably halfway there. 446 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,640 I was not. I was, I was maybe one 1/5 of 447 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,280 the way to where the person I needed to be to be a loving wife 448 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,080 and to grow. And, and we are not saying that 449 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,000 the be all end all is to be married, but this is the topic 450 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,360 we are talking about. So if if you're out there and 451 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:41,200 you're like, I, you know, no, this is what we're talking 452 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,600 about. And and we want to actually 453 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,840 equip you to make healthy decisions. 454 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,800 Do you have a couple red flags that you're like these two or 455 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,440 this one is a red flag and it's a non negotiable? 456 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,320 I mean, the first one that comes to me is if you are leading them 457 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,360 spiritually as a woman, you know, there's a lot of debate 458 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,800 of, you know, date to convert and all these things. 459 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,560 And you know, there are always going to be the incredible love 460 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,960 stories of any kind of outlier that there is. 461 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,240 But as a woman looking out for other women, I think if you were 462 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,840 having to pull him along or he's like, well, I love your 463 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,480 boundaries. I'll respect that because you 464 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,760 have them or I love your faith. I'll I'll be open to church. 465 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,120 That's not a sustainable model for male leadership in a 466 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,640 marriage. And so I think if there is a 467 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,720 mantle there, he should step up to that before you commit your 468 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,320 life to him. Granted, there will be, you 469 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,280 know, the people in the Commons like, you know, I have an altar 470 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,200 story to that and that's phenomenal. 471 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,480 I love when the Lord works in unexplained ways. 472 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,240 But as like a blanket statement for women is I would want to 473 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,640 say, hey, hey, challenge him. What kind of leader does he want 474 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,320 to be? Does he know that? 475 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,280 Does he have his own boundaries and standards? 476 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,520 And so that's like my red flag for for any woman listening, 477 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,880 especially, you know, someone that's entering a new 478 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,320 relationship. Don't be afraid to ask those 479 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,080 questions early on. It doesn't have to be an FBI 480 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,760 interrogation. It's a. 481 00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:07,840 Sore subject. It doesn't have to be an 482 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,040 interrogation, but you also don't want to get your heart 483 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,320 committed before you actually know what you're committing to. 484 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,760 Yeah, OK then. All right, So what about meeting 485 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,840 people online? Well, your son and I met online, 486 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,920 but the way he did it is so different than typical online 487 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,960 interactions. OK. 488 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,120 So talk about the way he did it versus a red red flag way. 489 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:31,760 Yeah. Yeah. 490 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,800 So how did Arden do that? He sent me a message when she 491 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,000 was trying to be sweet and generic and he's like, oh, the 492 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,760 sunset looks beautiful there. It's snowing here. 493 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,800 It wasn't actually snowing. So he was kind of lying. 494 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,160 We'll get onto the him for that, but in. 495 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,440 Colorado. It could have. 496 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,960 It could have shifted. Like the next day. 497 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,600 In the mountains it was snowing, that's true. 498 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,760 That was valid. That's true. 499 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,720 We'll go with that. And he just struck up a short 500 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,640 conversation and they said, hey, I would love to get your number, 501 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,200 give you a call sometime. And so he didn't have this delay 502 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,240 long chat where it felt like, you know, a potential match 503 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,400 could get watered down and you miss it or I'm prolonging 504 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,720 something and just getting emotionally involved because of 505 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,080 constant texting. He said, I'm going to call you. 506 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,520 And on the call he said, I'm coming to Florida soon. 507 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,240 I'd love to take you on a date. And he was very gentleman and 508 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:24,280 old school and a new school approach and he was always super 509 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,560 clear with me. That is the one thing that 510 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,440 sticks out in our dating is I never really had to worry or 511 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,120 question my worth or where I stood with him. 512 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,840 He's like I, I give. An example like when you say 513 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,680 super clear. Well, when he told me he wanted 514 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,600 to take me on a date, he he said those words not we should hang 515 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,000 out sometime or let's go have coffee. 516 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,200 He said I want to take you on a date. 517 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,000 So I knew OK, there is intention behind this. 518 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,000 And did you know he was paying for everything? 519 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,440 I assumed he would because I have an old school dad. 520 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,720 Yeah, he showed up like with doughnuts and he took me to 521 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,400 lunch. He was very thoughtful with our 522 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,720 dating time. But even in our follow up 523 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,680 conversations, like he continued to say, hey, I'm interested. 524 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,480 I'd like to have our next date this time. 525 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,720 I think a lot of people maybe they have that good first date 526 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,720 and then they're just left on red or they're left questioning. 527 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:14,640 OK, chat is kind of dwindling now. 528 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,840 Are we just in friend zone or are we somewhere in between, 529 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,840 which I think those shouldn't exist. 530 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,280 There should be no situation ship. 531 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,440 There should be no talking. There should be no texting. 532 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,480 It is either I'm getting to know you and I'm moving forward or 533 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,440 not because women's hearts shouldn't be hung out to dry. 534 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,560 They should be stewarded and nurtured well. 535 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,600 And it's OK if if it doesn't lead to something. 536 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,440 But be clear, even when he wasn't dating me and he would go 537 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,920 on dates with other women, he would follow up and say, hey, I 538 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,840 really enjoyed our time. You're a great person. 539 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,880 I don't see a romantic interest there. 540 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,320 And some people would say, oh, that's so mean. 541 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,680 He's like cutting them off. No, I think that's incredibly 542 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,280 kind in a good sort of other women's hearts, which gave me 543 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,520 confidence as his wife of if he can do that well and have hard 544 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,160 conversations, I can trust him with his word. 545 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,960 OK, so. So good job, you know, that's 546 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,320 why. I am hearing so much that men 547 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,840 are reaching their 30s and have never asked a woman out. 548 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,040 So what do you do with that Christian? 549 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,240 Because we've got these amazing young women. 550 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,000 We're telling them to be godly. We're telling them to to work on 551 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,440 themselves. And they're either sitting at 552 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:26,240 home and they're waiting for someone to to actually take some 553 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,200 initiative. What? 554 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,400 What do you say when the guys aren't asking the girls out? 555 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,520 We were just talking right before we started recording 556 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,160 where this beautiful young man said, I couldn't even recommend 557 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,760 my brother to this girl I care about. 558 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,360 I think he said these guys, they're just not. 559 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,960 They're just not who I could recommend. 560 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,040 That's that's, that's scary. So what? 561 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:58,560 What do you say to the girls who are waiting and and the guys 562 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,240 aren't doing anything? Yeah, that's a hard place to be 563 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,760 because as women we want to nurture and we want to fix. 564 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,640 So it's tempting to think, well, maybe if I just like pull him 565 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,560 out of the awkwardness and he'll do the rest. 566 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,360 But there is no guarantee if you have to string him along. 567 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,600 Often we see women getting caught in this web of I 568 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,600 constantly have to initiate or lead or pull him to the position 569 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,040 that I want him to be in. And that's not, it's really not 570 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,240 a great scenario for either party involved. 571 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,560 But men are very scared just to interact with women. 572 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,920 I hear that all the time from men watching our channel, trying 573 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,120 to get like an inside view of the women's heart, which I love 574 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,840 and encourage men, please watch these episodes. 575 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,440 But many have told me that they are scared, especially post 576 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,680 COVID, that like social interaction has just dwindled so 577 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,240 much where they don't feel, you know, intriguing or charismatic. 578 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,440 They don't even know how to strike up a conversation. 579 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,320 So I would say friends with friends, you know, same gender 580 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,160 or not even mentors and peers. Let's just start having in 581 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,320 person conversations again. Let's have community nights. 582 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,000 So we're building confidence of wow, this is who I am. 583 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,560 This is what I'm passionate about. 584 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,080 I know how to interact with people, but then also men just 585 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,680 pull the Band-Aid off. Like you will get rejected by 586 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,760 some women but that doesn't determine your worth. 587 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,000 It doesn't have to be an all or nothing. 588 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,880 I think a lot of dating today, modern dating has really 589 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,080 heightened the getting to know you stage and then muddy the 590 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,120 word dating stage. So it's you fall hard, your head 591 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,800 over heels, you move in together, then you date for 592 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,640 three years. Maybe you get married, maybe you 593 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,440 don't. And all the research shows that 594 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,240 that is catastrophic to long term relationship living 595 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,400 together, living together, yes and then even emotionally giving 596 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,600 your heart to someone before you're ready because you don't 597 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,040 know what you're getting into. There's a lot of resentment that 598 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,800 follows that for women specifically. 599 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,880 And so the the call to action for 2026 dating I'm encouraging 600 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,880 our viewers is hey, let's have intention men ask women out. 601 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,120 Let's have slow getting to know each other and then quick 602 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,480 commitment, like we don't need to to linger in the in between 603 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,720 there. But we did a fun little 604 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,400 interview last weekend with some of our future husband interns 605 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,560 and we hit the streets of Nashville, which granted, Lisa, 606 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,120 I was like, I don't know what all kind of views we're going to 607 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,400 get here, but we're going to try. 608 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,600 And I was even shocked, like if someone telling other women 609 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,120 there's good men out there. I was shocked by the amount of 610 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,920 men that said, like I went to Buck Mason and you know, like 611 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,840 well dressed men. You know, maybe some will give 612 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,520 good answers. There were men there that were 613 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,880 godly that like we're rooted in the word. 614 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,040 We were asked them something about leadership and they would 615 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,280 just spew your heart out. And so I'm thinking, how many 616 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,440 men are out there? So you're saying women should go 617 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,040 to Buck Mason? They. 618 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,120 Should go to Buck Mason. I think the other place is Home 619 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,640 Depot and Lowe's, except usually they're married. 620 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,800 If they're there, they may. Be but maybe they know someone, 621 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,880 But then that's another good point is, you know, if you're a 622 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,320 man and you see other men that are not taking those steps, like 623 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,160 can you walk them through that? You you say this all the time, 624 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,800 like mentorship is just dwindled. 625 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,560 So much of like the older women teaching the younger women, and 626 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,720 I say the same even for close peers, really camped out of, 627 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,520 well, this is the single group and this is the married. 628 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,920 And we don't understand each other, but there's a lot we can 629 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,400 learn from each other. I mean, my single friends teach 630 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,160 me so much about being determined, hard working, 631 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,400 fruitful for what you've been given. 632 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,920 And I think there's sides of marriage even later of, you 633 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,480 know, kids, no kids. I think we need to stop dividing 634 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,120 and start connecting. OK. 635 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,000 So can I just go back a little bit? 636 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,160 So what were some of the questions you were asking? 637 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,120 This is always a fan favorite because it's so not my nature. 638 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,880 You know, this I'm a little bit more like, tell me about you and 639 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,720 intellectually introverted. And so when I look back, I think 640 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,880 it's funny. I think that was a lot of, you 641 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,800 know, just longing to not mess up again. 642 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,520 And some of the questions I asked Arden is, you know, what 643 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,680 are your passions? What is your your plan for for 644 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,240 your life or your career? For ministry? 645 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,880 And this was that black Mason as well. 646 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,200 Oh, no, this is in Florida. Oh, in Florida. 647 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,600 Oh, the questions I asked Buck Mason. 648 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,120 Sorry, I was doing the question the Buck. 649 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,600 Arden on On the Street, Man on the Street. 650 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,400 Buck Mason, Downtown Nashville. What are your intentions? 651 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,800 12 S Yeah. I was like, wow, you went deep. 652 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,240 You got Buck Mason. Sorry, no, those are the 653 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,160 questions I asked Arden, which is a a popular question people 654 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,640 asked. But Buck Mason, we went up to 655 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,840 guys and my hope was to inspire these men that hey, maybe 656 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,640 there's a way of dating that you haven't thought about. 657 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,440 Maybe your future wife is praying for you when you just 658 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,920 feel like. All of these guys were single. 659 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,120 Yeah, they were so 12 S Doug Mason, if you want to shout out, 660 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,760 if you want to go find someone, but we were asking them, hey, if 661 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,080 you knew your future wife is praying for you, what does that 662 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,000 mean to you right now? How are you transforming to be a 663 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,000 husband today while you were still single? 664 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,920 We asked women on the street too, what are you looking for in 665 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,680 a man and how are you praying for them? 666 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,880 And granted, we took us some answers where we're like, what 667 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,640 are you looking for in a woman? He's like, hot. 668 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,880 I'm like, well, you know what? Maybe if we tell them your 669 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,920 future husband may be praying for you, it'll change their 670 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,480 approach to dating. That's really what I'm hoping. 671 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,640 It's just planting seeds of how can we really put our faith in 672 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,520 dating rather than trying to date and then add faith to it 673 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,160 later. You know, I watched a 674 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,840 fascinating while I'm taking this course, but they were 675 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:15,960 saying what men do look for in women is is youth and beauty. 676 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,600 And what women look for is they actually want to marry someone 677 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,880 older and a good provider and protector. 678 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,480 And so that's even genetically woven into us. 679 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,280 So it is very, very interesting. That sounds like the hot would 680 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:35,159 probably be the combination of young and beautiful. 681 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:41,000 But what's interesting is were you talking to to young women 682 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,120 and young men when when you first interacted with them as 683 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,080 soon as you said, what would you, what would you hope this 684 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,239 future wife of yours will be praying for you right now? 685 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,960 What what was some of your favorite answers that came from 686 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,600 that? Almost all of them, even the 687 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,840 ones that I presume weren't fully interacted in faith, we're 688 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,560 saying they hope their wife would be praying that they could 689 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,320 be the man they're called to be. Wow. 690 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,400 I think men are so aware that there is a call of leadership on 691 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,280 their lives, but they're not quite sure always how to 692 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,960 interact with it or if they are, they're just aware of, you know, 693 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,480 I always want to be striving for this. 694 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,880 I never want to think I've made it as a man. 695 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,080 A lot of them were saying, Hey, I have scheduled Thursdays is 696 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,800 when I pray for my future wife and I know so it's I'm I was 697 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,080 just blown by this day because I was like, it's one thing to say 698 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,880 it, but then to see it in person is that's very I mean, it 699 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,600 afflicted me. So I'm hoping this and you 700 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,880 record. This and they're going to be 701 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,200 able to watch this on your podcast. 702 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:40,400 Yes, yes. And we did get some tags if 703 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,040 someone's like that guy was giving great answers and kind of 704 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,480 cute, we will tag some of them if you want to reach out. 705 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,760 Yeah, Some of the other answers were that I can lead her 706 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,760 spiritually, that I can be a good provider. 707 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,440 And then some others were saying, you know, that I can 708 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,800 navigate my career well because they do want to be providers. 709 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,560 They do want to be reliable. And that doesn't mean that women 710 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,280 are insufficient or, you know, uncreative, whatever the word 711 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,960 is. But there's just this, you know, 712 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,440 how we want to nurture the heart. 713 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,200 I think they want to nurture the environment and the safety of 714 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,560 women. And that's such a beautiful 715 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,560 thing that we shouldn't chalk up to toxic masculinity, but we 716 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,040 should see as a gift that we get to be prized in that way. 717 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:22,280 I do feel like the the progressive feminism has 718 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:28,560 undermined all the incredible beauty that what you're just 719 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,680 talking about that that weaving of the, the woman being the 720 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,520 guardian of the husband's heart and the husband being the 721 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,640 guardian of the household and the strength and the protection 722 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,400 and provision. It does not mean that women 723 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,840 can't be providers and it doesn't mean that men can't be 724 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,640 nurturing of their wives heart. It just means that there is some 725 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:57,880 core things that are stewardship in a relationship that women do 726 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,240 almost innately and that men do almost innately. 727 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,720 And we've been like, no, don't be an innate male, be a female. 728 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,320 And the females, no, no, don't trust the man. 729 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,520 You be the man. And it's, I feel like it's 730 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,560 undermined so much of the beauty and the rhythm of creation that 731 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,720 God actually ordained from the very beginning. 732 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:21,720 And so it's it's incredibly tragic that that's happening. 733 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,360 Tell me your greatest hope for this message, Christian, for 734 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,240 both the book and the prayer journal. 735 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:31,160 Tell me, you know, if you're saying this is my greatest hope, 736 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:34,320 if this is the only thing, because I, I know of course you 737 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,400 want to see people have beautiful, vibrant marriages, 738 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:43,720 but what is your greatest hope? My hope would be that women 739 00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:49,800 specifically can lend this desire fully to the Lord no 740 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,960 matter what their dating criteria looks like, no matter 741 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,760 what their dating pool looks like, no matter how long it's 742 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,680 been. Though that's hard because I 743 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,680 think it is so much more worthwhile for our hearts and 744 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,200 for that potential marriage that is out there. 745 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,120 If we say I'm committed to this path that the Lord has created 746 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,600 for me because there is such a spiritual attack against family 747 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,840 and marriage that in my mind on the other side, which I know so 748 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,760 many people are saying it easy for you to say you're married. 749 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,360 But I've seen how if you don't partner with the right person, 750 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,520 if you don't have the right foundation for your marriage, if 751 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,160 you don't have the right perspective of love, how it 752 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:32,600 hurts your own heart so much. And it's not something that we 753 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,440 just pick up and lay down. It's a lifelong commitment. 754 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,880 And so whether that looks like simply just not settling and 755 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,240 staying the course, whether that looks like, you know, inviting 756 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,040 God into the miraculous of something you thought you had to 757 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,960 find a needle in a haystack, that would be my hope. 758 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,640 And I love that the Bible even says that the gift of singleness 759 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,880 is something that God has to give. 760 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,000 And I think so many women have thought, well, maybe the Lord's 761 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,560 just forgotten me. He's just made me be single. 762 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,160 Reality is. And I love how our friend Mia 763 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,960 Field says this. Like for many, that is a way to 764 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,400 protect ourselves from the hurts we've experienced in the dating 765 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,560 world. God wants to be incredibly kind 766 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,440 to you. He wants to have his 767 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,720 fingerprints on your love story. So, you know, keep believing, 768 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,600 keep having hope. If he doesn't change that 769 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,560 desire, keep praying into it. Because the Bible says in 770 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,000 Ephesians that God can do exceedingly, abundantly more 771 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,520 than we can ask, think, or imagine. 772 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,800 So partner your ask, even if it's Lord, will you just not let 773 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,880 me settle today? That ask can grow tremendously 774 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,680 when we place it in the Lord's hands. 775 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,720 Yeah. And so I'm super excited about 776 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,360 this future husband and present prayers like there is something 777 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,960 that you can do now that you can pray in certain ways that it 778 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,120 sends a promise of God into your future. 779 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,320 And we're not saying the man of God, we're saying the promise of 780 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,000 God. And so you're never going to 781 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,680 regret growing spiritually. You're never going to regret 782 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,600 praying. And then a prayer journal, dear 783 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,280 future husband. And I love that these two, they 784 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,840 come together. And all I know is. 785 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,560 God never created any of us just to sit and wait. 786 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,960 God created us to partner with him. 787 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,080 Christian just quoted Ephesians 3 that God is able to do 788 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,520 exceedingly, abundantly above all, we can ask, hope, pray or 789 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,200 believe. But too many people have stopped 790 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,080 hoping. They've stopped praying. 791 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,160 They've stopped believing. And I hear an invitation from 792 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,920 Christian. I hear an invitation that God is 793 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,680 saying, go ahead and go ahead and dream again. 794 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,440 Go ahead and hope again. And Christian, I just want to 795 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,160 thank you for taking the time. I mean, there's so many times 796 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,200 I'd call you, you're like, I've got the kids down for nap and 797 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,160 I've got 5 seconds to write and I can't, I can't talk right now. 798 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,760 There was so much time time sewn into this message. 799 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,680 And John and I are just so proud of you. 800 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,560 I've watched Arden flourish as your husband. 801 00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:01,800 I see you building a life with your husband. 802 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,240 I see the way you are a mother to your daughter and your son 803 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:10,760 and their unique personalities. And I just cannot recommend 804 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,960 enough that people get a hold of this. 805 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,560 I believe this is a tool. And I believe that, you know, we 806 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,080 we always say the future is male and female, but the future also 807 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,600 is family and well done, well done. 808 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,760 This is a counter cultural message right now, but it is so 809 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,560 key. And even if you're attacked, 810 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,280 Christian, just stay the course. Thank you, Christian. 811 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,920 Where can they get a hold of the book? 812 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,000 In the prayer journal. You can get both on Amazon. 813 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,480 We love quick shipping. They come out on February 10th. 814 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,400 Wonderful Christian. Thank you so very much. 815 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,920 Well, this has been the least severe podcast. 816 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,080 Listen, you can get a hold of Future husband, present prayer 817 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,400 and the journal anywhere you buy books. 818 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,920 You can go to Amazon.com. Is that the best place for them 819 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,480 to go? Or any bookstore. 820 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,280 Yes, Amazon, you can get it. You know, that's super quick 821 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,520 shipping. We love that both the books come 822 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,240 out on February 10th. Christian, thank you so much for 823 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,960 being my guest today on the podcast. 824 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,280 Thanks for being my mother-in-law. 825 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,200 Absolutely.