1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,840 Trauma is a real thing. There are so many people captive 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,280 to something that happened in their past. 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,240 I've been there and I want something more. 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,960 For you, how do you reach out to God when you feel maybe 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,880 abandoned or that he let this happen to? 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,600 You, I began to actually cry out to God, Why am I so fearful? 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,840 Why am I so angry? Why do I act this way? 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,880 And God said you're asking the wrong question. 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,640 Today we're going to actually tackle how you can stop having 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,920 trauma trigger you. You know, it sounds like trauma 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,760 is unavoidable. I am reading the stats here and 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:51,440 223 million people, 70% of the population in United States have 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,360 suffered trauma and often before they reach the age of 5 S. 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,560 Trauma is a real thing. But we believe we have some real 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,080 answers. We believe that you can 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,920 transform trauma instead of living in bondage to trauma. 17 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:12,240 There are so many people captive to some that happened 10 years, 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,360 20 years, 30 years, 40 years in their past. 19 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,280 And God is saying, hey, listen, I want to give you a future. 20 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,560 And they're like, no, no, I need to talk about my past. 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,120 I need to talk about my past trauma. 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,120 And he's like, I have something for you, but you're going to 23 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:33,080 have to let go of that for me to bring you into this. 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,040 You know, I talked about earlier last year and it's been 25 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,800 something I've always loved his doors. 26 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,360 Like whenever God opens a new door, it means you have to leave 27 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:49,240 one room to enter another room. And sometimes we're trapped in a 28 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:54,040 room that has memories and bondage and pain. 29 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,080 But we but we know that room. We know that room so we will 30 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,480 stay in the room rather than leave it. 31 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,920 I remember reading about this is shocking but it actually 32 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,080 illustrates this. I remember reading that when the 33 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,520 concentration camps were liberated, some of the prisoners 34 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:21,280 walked out of the camp and turned around and walked back in 35 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,240 and sat back down on their bunks. 36 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:30,440 They had gotten so used to the trauma to being prisoners, they 37 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:35,560 had gotten so used to that pattern in their life that they 38 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,680 were afraid of their future. And I just want you to know I've 39 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,960 been there, and I want something more for you. 40 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Some of you may know, some of you may not know. 41 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,440 I lost my right eye to cancer when I was five years of age. 42 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:58,800 And you know, I, I live my life in, in, in a small way and in an 43 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:04,120 angry way and in a fearful way. But what happened was when I was 44 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,960 around 32, I, I began to actually cry out to God and say, 45 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,480 why am I so fearful? Why am I so angry? 46 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,440 Why, why, why is this triggering me? 47 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,280 What is going on in my life? Why do I act this way? 48 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,120 And God said you're asking the wrong question, He said. 49 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,440 Lisa, you can figure out why you're messed up and you will 50 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,360 still be messed up once you know why. 51 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,080 Knowing why does not set you free. 52 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Knowing me sets you free. And you're going to have to know 53 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:38,680 the truth to a greater degree of intimacy then we have known the 54 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,880 lie. And I'm not diminishing or 55 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,880 demeaning therapy or or any kind of counseling. 56 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,360 But the truth is you can go to counseling and you're still 57 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,720 going to have to forgive. You can go to counseling. 58 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,520 You're still going to have to bring it to the feet of the 59 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,400 cross. You are going to go to 60 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,720 counseling and you still are going to blame others unless you 61 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,480 say I forgive them, I forgive them and I own my part in it. 62 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,920 So I remember I'm like, how come this, how come that how come 63 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,000 this, how come that No, you know, you're listening to me. 64 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,640 You're like, because you lost an eye. 65 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,120 I mean, you probably figured out you, you, you were diagnosed 66 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,399 with cancer at 5, given six months to live. 67 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:20,320 That is traumatic. And I lived with that shadow 68 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:25,240 over my life. But it wasn't until God began to 69 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:30,320 talk to me about the power of freeing myself. 70 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:36,240 And I know that sounds crazy, but Isaiah 52 verses 1 and 2 and 71 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,520 that portion of my life became a Rhema word for me. 72 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Isaiah 52 verse one says awake, awake. 73 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,760 And then the NIV it says Ozine, OK, it says put on your 74 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,640 strength, put on your beautiful garments. 75 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,560 O drew some of the holy city for there shall no more coming to 76 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,600 you, the uncircumcised and the unclean. 77 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,080 Now I want to pause right there. You know, this can sound like 78 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,360 oh, that's just for Israel. I remember when I read this the 79 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,920 first time I thought that's like that's like a woman's a glow 80 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,680 full gospel businessman verse has nothing to do with me. 81 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,400 But then I started to see that God is saying, awake, awake, O 82 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:22,080 Zion, put on your strength. And then he goes on and he says, 83 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:25,920 put on your beautiful garments, O Jerusalem holy, there, there 84 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,200 shall no more come into you, the uncircumcised and the unclean. 85 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,400 And what I want to highlight from that is God is saying to 86 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,120 each and every one of us, I know what's been done to you. 87 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:44,320 I know what you've done. I know the choices of your past. 88 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,520 I know the pain, but there's a big difference between things 89 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,560 being done to you and something entering you. 90 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:58,400 And when something enters you, when a trauma enters you, it 91 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,480 becomes your life force. And God goes on to say, shake 92 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,840 yourself from the dust and arise. 93 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:08,960 Be seated, O Jerusalem, loose the bonds from your neck, O 94 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,840 captive daughter of Zion. So he tells a woman who is 95 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,520 chained to wake up and then he says put on your beautiful 96 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,920 garments. And I believe that's God saying 97 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:21,720 I want you to dream again in this year. 98 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,760 I want you to wake. I want you to dream again. 99 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,400 I want you to shake yourself. I want you to loose yourself 100 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,120 from the dust of the past and the struggles. 101 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:36,800 I want you to believe that even though things were done to you, 102 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,640 they don't have the right to define you anymore and that you 103 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,960 can free yourself from the chains on your neck. 104 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,480 And I remember reading that and thinking what I was like, wait, 105 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,400 free, free myself. I'm crying out. 106 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,920 God free me, free me. And you answer back, free myself 107 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:53,560 like. And I, I had such a sense that 108 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,440 he said, what do you think I've left undone? 109 00:06:56,840 --> 00:07:00,560 I gave the life of my son completely that you would be 110 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,600 completely free. And you are living stuck in your 111 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,280 past. And Lisa, your past is not your 112 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:09,680 future. And I was like, well, it kind of 113 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,560 feels like it is because last year feels like the year before, 114 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,240 and the year before that felt like 10 years. 115 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,960 Yeah. It feels like it just all keeps 116 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,320 going. And he said that's because 117 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,440 you're looking back. When you look back, you go back. 118 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,920 And the truth is, I believe that God is saying I've got a new 119 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,360 future for you. And your new future looks 120 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,960 nothing like your past. If you look to me, it's not just 121 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,040 because you're going to manifest it or declare it, but you're 122 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:40,040 going to look to the one who has a plan for you and has a hope 123 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,480 for you. So there's unhealthy cycles 124 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,720 because of trauma, and trauma is a real thing. 125 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,200 Like give us the definition. Definition, which there's a big 126 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,040 T trauma and a little T trauma, they're saying nowadays, well, 127 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,280 definition according to Google, handy dandy Google, is a deeply 128 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,800 distressing or disturbing experience or a physical injury. 129 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,800 So something that shakes us to our core is what I gather from 130 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,360 that. Big T trauma would be sexual 131 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,440 abuse. Losing a loved one. 132 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,200 Physical abuse, Divorce, car. Wreck. 133 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,520 Car wreck, yeah. An injury, cancer, something 134 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,560 that is outside of our control that comes in and like you said, 135 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:27,600 just blindsides us. And those things have a way of 136 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,600 arresting our lives that those things like this just happened. 137 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,000 And then what would be a little T example of trauma? 138 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,760 Little T trauma I think pain with a friend, maybe slander. 139 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:44,159 I think it can be as simple like I know for me like in high 140 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:48,160 school I was like the. Awkward, weird and embarrassment 141 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:48,800 or. Something, yeah. 142 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,880 Or like feeling left out, feeling not not just once, but 143 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,680 repeatedly left out feeling like, wow, I nobody wants to be 144 00:08:56,680 --> 00:08:59,960 with me. I feel isolated, you know, but 145 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:05,040 but I do think right now that I saw, I saw something yesterday, 146 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,360 it said it said your father at 8, your father's father at 18. 147 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,000 And it showed them like in war. And it was like, you know, 148 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,600 compared to what's going on now. I mean, it's just like, you know 149 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,360 what, what it looked like then to be a man, what it looked like 150 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,600 then to go through trauma, you know, to lose your loved one in 151 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,440 war, to go to war and lose an arm or whatever, as compared to 152 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,520 what we call trauma now it. Almost sounds like little T 153 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,680 trauma is something that might be a smaller event, but we 154 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,760 encapsulate it until it does become traumatic. 155 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:43,760 I do think people have a tendency to make trauma an 156 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,880 excuse to not move forward. You have a. 157 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,160 Quote. You love on that, don't you? 158 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,200 Yes, I do. OK, So again, this is this is, 159 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,520 this is an idea that an older woman said to me, Christian, I 160 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,480 was talking to her and I was talking about some stuff I've 161 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,240 been through. I was like, hey, I, I need you 162 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,560 talking to an older woman. I was in my 20s. 163 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:08,080 She was probably in her 60s, which is kind of like me right 164 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,120 now. So I'm an older woman. 165 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,040 I was saying to her, hey, I I need your input. 166 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,560 I need your advice. I need you. 167 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,160 This is this is a cycle that is in my family. 168 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,280 This is a cycle that's happened. I need you to help me make sense 169 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,960 of it. And she looked at me and she 170 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:26,440 said, Lisa, let your past be your teacher and let your future 171 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:32,960 be your friend. And I thought, well, OK, So what 172 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:38,760 I want to say to you is what are some of the lessons that you can 173 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,760 learn? And rather than having trauma be 174 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,040 your trigger, how can it be your teacher and the thing that 175 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,960 transforms you? And I, I have the best people. 176 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,840 I I reached out to them. It was over the New Years. 177 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,520 And I was like, what are some of the things that you learned in 178 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,600 2024? And Christian, I mean, they were 179 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,080 so responsive. I mean, I've got pages and pages 180 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,960 and pages and pages of them. Can you bring up some of those? 181 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,800 Yeah. And these are from your 182 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,200 audience, so just letting you know, if you leave comments on 183 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,440 this podcast or on Instagram, we love hearing from you. 184 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,480 And you know, wisdom begets wisdom. 185 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:20,360 But Lindy said that grief and trauma give us intimacy with God 186 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,880 that we would not have otherwise, which I think is so 187 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:23,840 true. And beautiful. 188 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,360 And I wanted to pause with that. So we make a choice whether 189 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,920 grief and trauma is going to bring us closer to God or 190 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,680 whether we're going to take up, take us to a dark place of 191 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:40,080 grieving and anger. And how come this happened to 192 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,560 me? You know, it says that we 193 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:45,320 actually walk closer with Christ through the fellowship of his 194 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,960 sufferings. I don't believe that God says 195 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,040 I'm going to traumatize my children, but I believe that God 196 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:57,040 will use the trauma that we go through and redeem it so that in 197 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,200 that place of vulnerability and wounding, if we bring it to Him, 198 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,560 we find that He is closer than a brother. 199 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,200 What's another one that stood out to you? 200 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,440 Anna. I love all these names. 201 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,200 There's Lindy with AY and then there's Anna with 1 N. 202 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:16,120 Anna with 1 N said it was a hard year for me, but it taught me to 203 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,920 hold on to God even when I can't see or hear. 204 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,680 I do wonder, Lisa, if that's some of the the pain points of 205 00:12:22,680 --> 00:12:25,440 trauma that we're seeing today is it feels like that's what's 206 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,000 all-encompassing and near and what we can touch and hold on 207 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,120 to. But like you're saying, maybe 208 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,960 there is a wilderness season. God feels far away. 209 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:39,560 So how do you reach out to God when you feel maybe abandoned or 210 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:42,160 that he let this happen to you? Because that's something I hear 211 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,280 a lot of like, well, how could God be a good God if this has 212 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,440 happened in my life? Well, I find for me, one of the 213 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,840 best things I can do when I feel abandoned or afraid or God have 214 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,200 really messed up and now I deserve this, is to go to the 215 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,120 Psalms. David always encapsulates in his 216 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,240 words, Hey God, are you seeing what's happening? 217 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,880 Are you seeing that they're coming against me? 218 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,040 Are you seeing that I've messed up? 219 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,600 Hey, God, you can discipline me all you want, but please don't 220 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,960 let people discipline me. I mean, he actually says things. 221 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,760 I'm paraphrasing it, but he actually says those things so 222 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:21,800 clear that when we can read the Psalms, we can, we can see that 223 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,800 David was a man after God's heart, but he was a man who 224 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,400 wrestled with things just like we did. 225 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:32,760 And so we can read the Psalms and then we can do what David 226 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,680 did, which he was like, I'm going to, I'm going to pour out 227 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:41,080 my soul like water and then I'm going to turn my eyes to God. 228 00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:45,960 I think sometimes we pour out and we never turn our eyes to 229 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,480 God. You talked about trauma dumping. 230 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,400 I think sometimes we just trauma dump, trauma dump, trauma dump 231 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,320 and forget that there is a God who knows how to make all things 232 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,800 work together for good for those who love him and are called 233 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:04,080 according to his purpose. So if we just look at suffering 234 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,440 as suffering and attack and mean and do not invite God to show us 235 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,640 his purpose in all of it and show us what he can do out of 236 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,520 the rubble of our lives, then we we miss out. 237 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,680 We miss out on the richness. I mean, I'm, if I'm going to 238 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:21,200 have pain, I want to learn something from it. 239 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,080 I don't want to just hurt. I I want the hurt to bring me to 240 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,720 a place of healing. You mentioned trauma dumping and 241 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,360 traumation for anyone is trauma dumping is this idea which I've 242 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,440 experienced it. I don't know if you have where 243 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:35,880 you're in an instance. I've done it. 244 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,640 You're in an instance and you're like, I just have to share. 245 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,080 I have to unload on someone and then you go home, lay in bed and 246 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,000 you think, why did I share all that? 247 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,120 What have I done? And they're saying that we do 248 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,760 this because we either are testing that person of oh, well, 249 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,120 are you going to be there for me if I show you how messed up I 250 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,800 am? Because it's like an insecurity 251 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,360 thing or we don't feel like we can process that with God or 252 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,480 with healthy relationships. So we get one chance and we just 253 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,960 have to share it all. So what I'm hearing if you've 254 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,440 experienced that too, is Lisa, you're telling us, OK, maybe we 255 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,080 should start with God and identify or what is the. 256 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,240 Lesson because we always try to fix it. 257 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,600 You're like, wait, OK, wait, let's fix that first trauma 258 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,440 dump. Yeah, I mean there, yeah. 259 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,080 I, I think that going back to what we've talked about so many 260 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,240 times in this podcast is you can't just trauma dump with 261 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,520 anybody. Yeah. 262 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,360 That's true. You got to know who you're 263 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,880 talking to. Or you can. 264 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,640 But you shouldn't. You should not. 265 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,760 Social media is not the place for your trauma dumps. 266 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,040 I'm just going to tell you that right now. 267 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,880 Don't, don't do it. I've seen people do it. 268 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,720 Social media is not a safe place. 269 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,280 And the enemy will jump on that, pounce on that. 270 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,240 And there's certain things that he should not have access to. 271 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,320 And you need to be careful about who you share things with. 272 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,680 But yeah, I, I think if you can't take it and, and bring it 273 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,480 to God, you're going to just actually layer more pain. 274 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,800 You know, my mother was so precious, but she went through 275 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,160 some horrible things and her her youth and, and carried those 276 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,920 things into her marriage and then carried to her things into 277 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,600 how she interact with my brother and I as a mother, and then 278 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,320 carried those things even into how she was a grandmother. 279 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,720 And I'm not I, I hope, you know, I, I'm not dishonouring my mom. 280 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,200 I hope you understand. I actually I love my mom but I 281 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,680 wanted to learn and what would happen is I having a long term 282 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,840 relationship with her. I listen to stories that she 283 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:41,280 would retell, and every time it got layered with another weight 284 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,400 of emotion and she was no longer telling it how it happened. 285 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,280 She was telling it how she felt about it. 286 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,840 And then when she'd retell it, she'd layers a little bit more 287 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,960 about it, or a little bit more regret or a little bit more 288 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,160 anger, or why didn't anybody listen? 289 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,760 And by the time I would hear it, I didn't even recognize it. 290 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,000 We don't want to live like that. We don't want to live in a 291 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:12,079 constant weight of a past who is a boulder that we carry with us, 292 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,800 with a past that is not teaching us anything. 293 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:19,560 It's trapping us a past that feels like it is unredeemable, 294 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,160 filled with regret, filled with mistakes. 295 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,760 We want to take the lessons and we want to move forward in 296 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,800 strength. There's a quote that you and I 297 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,240 both like by Edith Edgar that says victimization is not a 298 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,240 choice, victimhood is. And I think that's so powerful 299 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,080 for whatever your trauma may be, whatever you've gone through, 300 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,040 what we want to learn and what we want to impart to those 301 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,360 listening is, well, how do we learn from it and how do we move 302 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:49,520 on? And so I'd love if we can spend 303 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,160 the next few minutes talking about practical ways we can do 304 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,880 that. And something you were sharing 305 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,000 with me, which I'd love for you to elaborate on is OK, well, 306 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,120 what are what you're going through? 307 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,480 How are we talking about it? What are we believing for? 308 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,280 And you know, what mantras are we even saying about that? 309 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,680 So Proverbs 1821 says that death and life are in the power of the 310 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,760 tongue. And I think of what you're 311 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,360 saying about your mom is how she was speaking about it and 312 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:17,560 thinking about it even was controlling the narrative in her 313 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,960 life. So what would you advise for 314 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,240 people that say I want to believe for more but I'm hearing 315 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,920 myself say it's not possible? You know, this is going to limit 316 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,560 you. How do you start to believe for 317 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:30,880 more in your life? Yeah. 318 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,440 And I do think going back to what you said, I think when we 319 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,160 repeat trauma over and over and over again, it we're actually 320 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,160 wounding, re wounding somebody. I, I had this incredible 321 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,600 privilege to get to spend some time with girls that were 322 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,960 rescued out of sex trafficking. And it was actually really 323 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,040 destructive when people wanted them to, to tell their story, 324 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,720 tell us how bad it was, tell how bad it was. 325 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,440 And I remember I was in the meeting and I had a chance to 326 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,400 minister and they invited all, we invited these girls that had 327 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,240 been rescued and they were hidden in the crowd, invited 328 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,800 these girls that been rescued to come down and, and basically 329 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,400 just lay it all down, lay it all down. 330 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,400 And I remember this Russian girl coming up to me and, and 331 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,160 somebody said, I don't know if she understands what you're 332 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,000 asking her to come down. And she looked at me and I tried 333 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,640 to accept that. You know what we're doing? 334 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,240 We're making exchange. You know, you're paying for 335 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:30,040 Jesus's promise, your fear, your your agony for a hope and a 336 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,240 future. And she said, I know I, my past 337 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:37,160 is behind me and now I delete it. 338 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:40,800 And I was like so stunned as she looks at me and she said, 339 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,400 DELETE. Do you not have this word? 340 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,680 And I was like, yes, we, we have the word delete. 341 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,560 Thank you. But I don't I, I think what 342 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,760 Christian is saying is we can't control what happens to us, but 343 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:58,360 we always have the power of how we are going to respond. 344 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,360 And she was like, I'm deleting this. 345 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:04,240 This what was done to me is not who I am and it will not, it 346 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,160 will not continue to it have a cycle and a say in my life. 347 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,720 And I think so many people, they don't even know they have the 348 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,840 power. And what we're saying is take 349 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,240 back your power, take back your power. 350 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:21,920 And how you take back your power is you surrender it to Jesus. 351 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,240 You say I surrender this trauma, I surrender this pain. 352 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,040 I surrender my past, my mistakes. 353 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:32,040 I mean all of the things that are in your past, I'm 354 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,800 surrendering all of that. I'm surrendering the right to 355 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,040 make excuses because when we make excuses, we keep ourselves 356 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:42,720 trapped in the past. Let's say I should have done 357 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,880 better. I didn't know better. 358 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,880 Now I do, I will not do that again. 359 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:48,760 And and so, you know, we've, we've got to be those people 360 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,720 that have a way to move forward. So talk to the right people, 361 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,800 talk to God. I do talk to my husband about 362 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,080 most of my stuff, which is kind of like I have to do a lot of 363 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,640 preferencing. Like I need to say this. 364 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,080 I know this is going to be weird. 365 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:10,200 I don't need you to fix it. I just need to be heard and I 366 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,720 don't want you to have an action. 367 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:14,840 I've learned. I've learned that a couple of my 368 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,800 sons, I've told them things and then they get online and I'm 369 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,400 like, no, no, no, no. I believe that you might know 370 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,560 one of them. And so I've learned that I have 371 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,480 to preface it is this is going on. 372 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:34,240 This hurts, but that doesn't mean I'm going to give it 373 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,320 permission. And too many people give fear 374 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:43,200 and trauma way too much space in their life, space in their 375 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,160 married space with their relationships, with their kids. 376 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,760 And it robs you, robs you, robs you. 377 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,560 And so it isn't just that you're traumatized once, it's every 378 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,000 time you talk about it again, you're re traumatized or you're 379 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,240 re confused. And people keep thinking, if I 380 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,280 study my past, I'll protect my future. 381 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,480 No, going back to your past means you're going to actually 382 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,040 work with the same limited information you had when you 383 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,880 found yourself in a painful place. 384 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,280 You've got to get into God's Word and let God speak His truth 385 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,200 and His life and He has a lighted path. 386 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,720 God's Word is a light unto our path where He can move you out 387 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,560 of a place of trauma into a place of promise. 388 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:24,080 So confront and DELETE, delete. And I just want to be clear, I'm 389 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,920 not saying you don't have permission to talk. 390 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,440 We want you to have permission to talk. 391 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,480 You know, even even if it is a trauma dump, we want you to have 392 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,360 permission to do that. We just want you safe when you 393 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:40,080 do it and we don't want you to leave it just there. 394 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,680 How it really is helpful. I have some friends. 395 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,840 I again, I have friends that I will call and I know I can share 396 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,160 something with them And it is it's they're going to actually 397 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,000 point me to the word of God or they're going to speak truth 398 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,400 into the situation. And they're the kind of friends 399 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,520 that if I bring it back in a week, they'll be like, Lisa, 400 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,000 we've already had this conversation. 401 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,080 Where, where are you at with this? 402 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,720 Like, what? Why is this still coming up? 403 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,760 What's still going on? Why? 404 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,320 Why are we, why are we not moving forward? 405 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,320 Talking to other people, living in community is healthy and 406 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,160 important. But repeating the same story 407 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,200 over and over to this person, this person, this person, this 408 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:28,400 person, strangers online, that is not going to move you forward 409 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,680 in a process of healing. And we want to see you heal. 410 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,320 We want to see you have a future that is bright rather than a 411 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,840 future entangled with a past that was filled with pain. 412 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,880 I also have seen people just get trapped in something Christian 413 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,200 and I have used this as an example so many times. 414 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,960 And they'll say, you know, whether they're in a bad 415 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,920 marriage or whether they're in a work situation that is unhealthy 416 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,840 or a church that is unhealthy or, you know, whatever the 417 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,960 situation is, if I can remove them from the equation, they 418 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,720 usually have the answer. And so I'll, OK, I'll tell you. 419 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:10,760 I said I was talking to, and I actually did this recently. 420 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,080 I was talking to a friend and I said, you have a daughter. 421 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,840 I said, I don't have a daughter, but I said, you have a daughter. 422 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,600 If she told you all the things you just told me, what would you 423 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,080 tell her? And she looked at me and she 424 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,160 said I would be very clear and I would say AB and C. 425 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,080 And I said, well, you're God's daughter. 426 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,600 And I feel like God is saying to you, you just heard what you 427 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,080 need to do. And so often we get entangled 428 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,040 with shame and guilt and other people's opinions, and we need 429 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,840 to step back and say, what would I say to my son? 430 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,040 What would I say to my daughter? What would I say to somebody I 431 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,080 love? Because sometimes, you guys, 432 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,640 sometimes we don't. We don't love ourselves. 433 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,800 Sometimes we shame ourselves. Sometimes we judge ourselves. 434 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,520 Sometimes we condemn ourselves. And so this year, I want you to 435 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,240 talk to yourself like you would talk to a daughter. 436 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:13,080 I also think we don't utilize as readably the power of prayer 437 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,880 within trauma too because this is something you've actually 438 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,600 done for me is we just welcomed our second baby hence the I 439 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,920 don't look as big as I used to. Yes, or as round. 440 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,920 As they used to in past episodes, but in preparing for 441 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,720 her birth, you and a couple other amazing women prayed with 442 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,640 me that some of the birth traumas that I had with the rare 443 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,240 things that happened with Azariah's livery, which you 444 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,760 know, Jesus protected me through. 445 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,520 But we had shoulder Dasosa, which is like a 1% chance of 446 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,720 happening. He got stuck and that really 447 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,280 scared me because I thought this is all I've experienced in 448 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,240 birth. How do I believe for more when 449 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,440 this is what I've seen and you and these women came around me 450 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,160 and just declared God's word believed with me and and I think 451 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,480 that's so beautiful that we get the chance to do that in 452 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,720 community. Like you're saying it is good. 453 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,720 We don't have to trauma dump, but we can say, hey, this is 454 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,480 these are my fears. I'm not pretending they're not 455 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,480 there. Maybe something has happened to 456 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,120 you and it's hard for you to trust people or to love people 457 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:13,640 again, but get around the people that are going to say I'm going 458 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,440 to stand with you, I'm going to fight with you. 459 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,120 And you know, Ephesians 320 just comes to mind if he can do 460 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,640 exceedingly, abundantly more. And I think there's power when 461 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,240 we pair with people that believe that. 462 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,560 For us, no, absolutely. And I love that you shared that 463 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,200 and you shared that with people that you could share it with. 464 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,800 And and you shared, hey, this was scary. 465 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,480 This was terrifying. I don't know if I can do this 466 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,520 again. And you shared it with Julie, 467 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,320 who had been there with you the first time and she was with you 468 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,560 the next time. And and I, you know, I'm, I'm 469 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,840 assuming it was a different story. 470 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,200 Yeah. So I mean, labor is labor. 471 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,200 And we lay down our lives and labor to bring forth life. 472 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,080 It's it's a beautiful exchange and it's even part of the 473 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,200 bonding. But you know, you shared that 474 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,200 with the right people who could stand with you in the right way, 475 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,120 who didn't get trapped with your fear or make you a victim or say 476 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,560 because this happened before, it's going to keep happening. 477 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,680 But said, you know what, Christian? 478 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,000 We're going to pray into that. We're going to believe, sure, 479 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,440 something different and we're going to believe that this time 480 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,880 you're going to have a birth that is going to be Joyce and 481 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,000 there's not going to be that entrapping of a shoulder. 482 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,040 And you know, as he, I know that you would never, you would never 483 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,040 say, well, it wasn't worth it. But but that doesn't mean that 484 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,840 doesn't mean it didn't hurt in the moment, and it doesn't mean 485 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,480 that it didn't try to punctuate your future. 486 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,720 Right. You said you touched on this 487 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,360 earlier and I think it's so poignant. 488 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:47,160 This conversation is shame and how some people are maybe scared 489 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,240 to go to other people because they think, you know, this is 490 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,600 part of my story that I don't even want to bring up to anyone. 491 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,840 Forget trauma dumping. I'm trauma hiding at this point. 492 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,960 What would your advice be to someone that's telling 493 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,360 themselves you can't share that it's only going to happen again? 494 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,000 You guys say hidden, you're dirty. 495 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,960 Especially if something's happened to them and not from 496 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,120 them, What would you advise them to do? 497 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,680 Well, I love that you brought that up. 498 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,840 And I do think that you have to, you have to open up and you have 499 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,000 to bring that to the light because what you don't bring to 500 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,680 the light, it's grows in darkness. 501 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,440 And so the enemy just pounces on those things that are shameful. 502 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,960 He says you asked for it, you wanted it. 503 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:29,280 You know, you, you shouldn't have been there. 504 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,960 You shouldn't have worn that, whatever, whatever that is, you 505 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,720 shouldn't have said that He pounces on that. 506 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,040 And so I have found that when you bring it to the light, what 507 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,000 what you bring to the light with the light reveals the light has 508 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,760 a chance to heal. And so I would say to anybody 509 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,680 there, you're carrying something, you're like, I, I, 510 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,880 I've carried this for so long and it just weighs me. 511 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,360 And it's actually affecting how I see things. 512 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,200 It's affecting how I see my husband. 513 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,960 It's affecting how I see my children. 514 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,960 It's affecting how I parent. It's affecting how I interact 515 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,880 with other people. You can bring it to God and then 516 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,040 ask him, who can I bring this to? 517 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,600 Who can I bring this to? Because we need other people. 518 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,080 The Bible says, confess your sins. 519 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,880 And I'm not even saying that you were involved in the sin, but it 520 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,120 says that when we talk with one another, there's a healing. 521 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,560 There's a healing that takes place. 522 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,320 And again, wisdom, you don't put it on social. 523 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,880 You, you go to somebody who loves you and can pray for you. 524 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:30,320 And I, I really believe that there is a incredible lack of 525 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,240 younger women going to older women. 526 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,160 I think that we go peer-to-peer when we're young. 527 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,680 And that's a mistake because we need somebody that is older who 528 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,320 has been through some things, who has been tested and tried in 529 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,960 their marriage, who's been tested and tried as a parent. 530 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,600 And this is actually why we're even doing this podcast. 531 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,200 We want more for you. So you go to somebody, you go to 532 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,800 somebody that wants to see you grow. 533 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,680 That's not just going to feel sorry for you, but wants to see 534 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,560 you grow. And whether that is a counselor 535 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,680 in the church or outside of the church, because there's a lot of 536 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,040 times and I don't, I don't mean this to be mean, but being a 537 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,960 pastor doesn't mean you're qualified to be a Christian 538 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,840 counselor. There are, there are counselors 539 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,280 and then there are pastors. And sometimes we get it all 540 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,000 confused. So when you, when you go to your 541 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,320 pastor, if he says, Hey, I, I really feel like this is 542 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,200 something that you need to go to counseling for. 543 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,920 Don't be insulted by that. Don't think he's saying that you 544 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,360 have a problem that he, you know, is too big for him. 545 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,440 Understand he's trying to give you tools. 546 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,400 I believe that counseling gives us strategies and tools, and 547 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,000 then God gives us a new beginning. 548 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,720 I love this verse and I feel like it really encompasses the 549 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,520 heart of God's response to trauma. 550 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,040 It says that God shows compassion and unfailing love to 551 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,960 the afflicted. I don't think he's intimidated 552 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,720 with what we felt from any of the trauma we've experienced. 553 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,400 And I would love to share thoughts as we close of the 554 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,840 truth that you would want someone to declare over their 555 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,360 life. Like maybe what they say to 556 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,880 themselves in the mirror or the verse they cling on to as they 557 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,520 are believing again for hope what's like your your sprinkle 558 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,160 of belief for them? Oh, first of all, I I really 559 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,200 want you to get into the habit of saying my past is not my 560 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,680 future. I am not what I've done. 561 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,840 I am a daughter of the most high God. 562 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,800 God has a plan for me. God has a hope for me. 563 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:30,120 I, I am his workmanship created for good, works in Christ Jesus. 564 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,320 It isn't about what's happened in my past. 565 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,880 It's about who I am in Christ. I want you to take yourself out 566 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,360 of the trauma and I want you to put yourself in the 567 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,960 righteousness of Christ. I want you to look at how Jesus 568 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,360 interacts with people who are shamed by culture, whether it's 569 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,360 a woman caught in adultery, whether it's a leper, whether 570 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,480 it's a woman with an issue of blood. 571 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,560 He never ever discounted their pain, but he didn't leave him in 572 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,640 it either. He was like, OK, I am your life, 573 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,000 I am your healing, I am your resurrection. 574 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,320 He always brought solution where others brought shame. 575 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,760 But we do have to move from a life of the shadows and we do 576 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,200 have to walk in light. And when God actually sets us 577 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,240 free, I don't want you to be like those prisoners of war. 578 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,200 That said, it's easier. It's easier to live in captivity 579 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,520 when God is inviting you into a full life. 580 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,600 God is saying don't pick and choose. 581 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,400 My son died, that you could be completely free. 582 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,840 Take it all. Galatians 5 says it is for 583 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:46,800 freedom that Christ has set us free, no longer to be enslaved 584 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,400 by a yoke of slavery. And God has freedom from any 585 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,160 slavery, from trauma, from any slavery of sin. 586 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,440 And he has a new beginning. And every single day is a mercy 587 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,600 reset. So don't deny yourself that. 588 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,720 Lay hold of the promises of God and believe that your future can 589 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,080 be your friend and your past can just be a teacher.