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Possibly one in four women, 
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They're saying young girls, 15 

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I've actually seen people get 
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herpes for 10 years. 
When you prayed, I felt the love

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of God come into my body and I'm
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God said. 
I want to begin to heal my 

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daughters that have STD's where 
they don't get what they deserve

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but they get what Jesus died to 
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Say something a little 
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I think Christian today we're 
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subjects that do not get talked 
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probably going to need to be 
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little bit more. 
We are going to be talking about

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what used to be called venereal 
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Then it became St. 
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understanding it's an STI. 
An STI. 

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It's funny to me that we're 
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the healer of things that might 
be the result of poor choices in

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diet, poor choices or lack of 
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But when something happens that 
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what they deserve, we, we don't 
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that. 
And I, I want to show you this 

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video that I saw recently 
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touched my heart. 
I was like, whoa, I just told 

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somebody that I was interested 
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somebody, I just wish it went a 
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done that before. 
And like, is that how it's going

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to be like every time? 
Like, am I going to like like a 

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guy? 
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going to get easier? 
Does it get easier telling 

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people I don't know how to do 
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Wow. 
When I watched that the first 

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time, my heart went out to this 
young girl that had been lied to

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and told that there was no cost 
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And I don't know, I mean, what 
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that, what's your immediate 
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There's so many things that I 
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questions for, especially when 
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raising the next generation. 
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way and I would want to tell 
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it. 
Don't buy into the scam. 

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her, We're not sure what the 
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I want to, you know, assume the 
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I want to assume she's at a 
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But I instantly thought of Jesus
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leprosy. 
I mean, those are people that no

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one wanted to be near them and 
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But in the other side, it's 
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people that even in for whatever
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I'm at a loss. 
I need healing. 

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I want to do better. 
I want to I still want to have 

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functional relationships. 
And to me, the true. 

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Children and get married and 
truth. 

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Is yeah, if you're promiscuous, 
there could be an STD. 

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That's what I've always known, 
so I'm going to call it that. 

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There could be an STD. 
You could be heartbroken. 

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There are so many other pangs 
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than just, you know, the, the 
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girl that doesn't they're 
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It could happen to any one of 
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So I don't think first and 
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judge. 
Well, look at your consequence. 

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Mine isn't visible, but how dare
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Jesus model of Lord. 
I need your healing. 

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But he does say go and sin no 
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So I think we shouldn't focus so
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and this is how you got here. 
What are the steps forward of 

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healing for people that find 
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In a sense of pain kind of to to
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a little bit of a story. 
So I wrote a book long, long 

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time ago, way before any of my 
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the Girls and made them cry. 
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wrote it from a position of 
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that young girl, from somebody 
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with my sexuality, somebody who 
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during college. 
I, I wasn't a Christian, but you

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know that I knew better. 
I knew better. 

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I knew that I was not making 
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featured on a particular radio 
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oh, they're not going to feature
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stances in your book. 
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really prayed into Christian. 
And so I I went on our back deck

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in Colorado and I'm just crying 
and I'm like God. 

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I felt like I stood for 
righteousness. 

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I was vulnerable. 
Nobody else is writing a book 

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about all their poor choices and
redeeming them. 

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Everybody else is like, I didn't
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You know, that kind of thing. 
I'm like, I, I'm the poster girl

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for I did everything wrong. 
But I, I believe that God has 

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hope and future and I'm sitting 
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All the boys are running amok in
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can I do in your meetings? 
And I'm like, this has nothing 

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What do you mean? 
What can you do in my meetings? 

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And I heard I want to begin to 
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DS STI's V DS what whatever it 
is, I want to begin to heal 

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them. 
And I thought, wait a minute, 

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wait a minute, what would that 
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I need everybody down to the 
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Come on over here. 
I need AIDS over here. 

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I need, I thought, no one's 
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I can't do that. 
And I had such a sense that God 

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said, no, no, send my word and 
my word will become flesh in 

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their life and my word will 
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And then my judgement kicked in.
I thought, well, you know, come 

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on, God. 
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they're promiscuous, they're, 
they're getting, they're getting

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diseases. 
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I mean, you know, it's kind of 
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If you're promiscuous, then you 
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STI's as they call them now. 
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they deserve. 
We all deserve judgement and we 

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get mercy. 
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what I got. 
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And I got mercy. 
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children. 
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doing a women's meeting down in 
Pueblo, Co, and I had gotten 

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done speaking, and I had such a 
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like, come on, you know what I 
asked if I could do in your 

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meetings? 
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I asked. 
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possibly one in four women now 
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maybe 2004. 
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this audience, Christian women 
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And I said, so I'm not going to 
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call out the shame and the 
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And I don't know why we think 
that God only wants to heal nice

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diseases. 
I believe that God is a healer 

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of every disease. 
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Psalm one O 3 over them. 
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big, but I just said, OK, you 
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I'm just going to read Psalm one
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And so I'm going to read it over
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that there's people that are 
going to be out there and I want

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you to hear the goodness of God.
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actually we're going to pray and
believe that God's healing 

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presence is going to come to 
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So Psalm one O 3 says, O bless 
the Lord all my soul and forget 

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not all his benefits. 
Who forgives all your sins? 

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Now we, we, we don't have a hard
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like, yeah, I believe that God 
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I believe that Jesus died for 
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But he doesn't stop there. 
It says and not or not like, OK,

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you get to pick 1. 
He either is going to forgive 

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you or heal you, but it's just 
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And it says and heals all your 
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Then it says who redeems your 
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Who renews your youth like the 
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you know, one of the versions I 
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says, and all my inmost being 
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And so kind of like a throw off.
I was like, OK, in the last two 

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minutes here, I'm just going to 
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promise of God, because at the 
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not the healer. 
You're not the healer. 

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God sends his word and he heals 
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His word is Jesus. 
So Jesus healed everybody. 

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We never see anybody walking on 
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came up to Jesus and he said, 
Hey, you need to learn something

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from this. 
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Let's let's let you suffer a 
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The only time we see that is 
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where Jesus like, Hey, it's not 
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children's bread, but even with 
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healing her. 
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I believe that Jesus Christ is 
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forever. 
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like I'm running out the 
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You know, I'm just going to, I'm
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then I want all the women that 
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not just the women that might 
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unto me according to your word. 
And I left and then Christian, I

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started getting the letters. 
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letters. 
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In the mail, I had herpes for 10
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My case was so horrible. 
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Every single menstrual cycle I 
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And when you prayed, I felt the 
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and I'm healed. 
It's been 3 months, nothing has 

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happened and then this started 
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Then I had women in Australia 
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If Lisa will pray for women to 
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I had a woman write me and say 
my case was so bad that the 

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doctors used me as a test case 
for, you know, trying to find 

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different ways to, to heal a 
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And she said nothing was 
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And in one moment I was healed. 
So we have this, this tension 

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between choices and consequences
and, and we have a generation 

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right now they're saying young 
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some of the highest rates ever 
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I hate even saying SDI because 
it just makes it sound like an 

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infection, like you can just put
some of the sport on it and it's

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gone. 
But these are things that number

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one, attack their ability to 
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So that just feels so demonic 
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shame on their life. 
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I believe that this book will 
equip you to have the 

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conversations that we are going 
to be needing to have in the 

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near future. 
I believe that women are being 

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sexualized and silenced and I am
not OK with that and I know you 

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aren't either. 
So grab your copy today. 

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So like, what are some of your 
thoughts around what I'm saying?

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I think the palpable tension 
between these kind of 

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conversations is we want to 
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We, especially as a parent in 
this realm, is like, well, we 

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don't want to just say, oh, it's
OK, God can heal everything. 

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Say something a little 
controversial here. 

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I think the instances that I 
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healing people, it wasn't as a 
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being promiscuous. 
I want God to heal me so I can 

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still date someone. 
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come in and say, Oh well, I'll, 
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so you can keep being 
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you date. 
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cleanse you from this so you can
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You can have. 
Children take in adultery that 

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you talked about earlier. 
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what you said, he said I do not 
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about you are guilty, cast a 
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that so I think our innate turn 
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deserve this or like to me there
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transformation and I think that 
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that God can heal us it allows 
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God. 
I need you this is incurable I 

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know only you can do this and I 
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healing but also walk in your 
love. 

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I know from me, I didn't have an
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where where I've, I've broken my
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people's heart. 
I feel the shame, I've cast 

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shame. 
I want to do things differently.

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No matter what your history is, 
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that will infect not just your 
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It'll affect your identity. 
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that God can heal an STD but 
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transform someone's future. 
Hundred 100%. 

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But you know, what's so crazy 
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going to, we're starting to get 
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They're like, hey, we don't want
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those things. 
We're OK if you pray for people 

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that have broken arms or cancer,
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mention the term STD or TI or 
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of that. 
So you know what I did 

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Christian? 
I wrote it in a book. 

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I wrote out the prayer because 
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will never go. 
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was speaking somewhere in 2007. 
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Like the the book, the book that
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girls who made them cry. 
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come out called Fight Like a 
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Woman. 
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healing in that book and share 
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women. 
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that her name is Trinity. 
She's amazing. 

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She is a model, and she had 
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In the fall of 2007, I attended 
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where Lisa was speaking, and I 
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in the middle of a lonely, 
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woman, I realized I had 
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encounter on a date. 
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experienced A deeper and darker 
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My immediate thought was wanting
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raised Christian, but she was 
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and things had gone a little 
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next thought swirling around my 
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It was my bad decisions and 
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consequences. 
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and you're thinking, yeah, 
that's me, I made bad decisions 

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and this is the consequences. 
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reiterate, we all deserve 
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we deserve. 
We all deserve judgement and God

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gives us mercy. 
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marriage, family slipped away 
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me. 
I immediately hopped in a cold 

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shower to ease the excruciating 
physical pain and as I stood 

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there, I heard in my spirit a 
still small voice whisper, I 

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want to heal you. 
I just, I mean, right, just 

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pause right there. 
This is who God is. 

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That's that's who was speaking 
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myself. 
He's like Lisa, this isn't about

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you. 
This is about a generation of 

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young girls that have been 
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promiscuity will not cost them 
anything. 

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Trapped into the lies that these
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term effect. 
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enemy wants to take away their 
ability to reproduce or build 

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families. 
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was meditating on Psalm One O 3 
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I happen to be on chapter 15. 
Just them. 

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And I froze as I read the Holy 
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message of healing specifically 
related to women with sexually 

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transmitted diseases at her 
upcoming conference. 

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She's now. 
I've been both a book where I'm 

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and a follower of Jesus since I 
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heard these two topics ever 
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Gratitude feel filled me and not
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the uncomfortable request, but 
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testimony of a woman who had 
struggled monthly. 

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I already mentioned this do it 
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years and was healed after the 
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She said I believed, I felt and 
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She believed in that moment that
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her and she prayed the prayer 
just received the promises of 

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God on the hillsides of Italy 
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So at this point I still haven't
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So she's a model and she starts 
telling other models and makeup 

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artist about how God healed her.
And then she started praying for

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people and they started getting 
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diseases. 
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she had like, this group that 
she was like, these are all my 

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friends. 
We've all come to to hear you. 

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We heard you, you know, six 
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And we're all like, we, we're 
all healed because of what you 

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wrote in the book. 
And because I believed and I've 

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prayed for these makeup artists 
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I'm like, oh, my gosh. 
And she said, now we want you to

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pray for us. 
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was just crazy. 
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be a mother. 
And you know what, Christian our

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lives. 
I kept getting to see her. 

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I saw some friends weddings. 
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She ended up getting married and
I believe she has three but 

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maybe four children right now. 
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reoccurrence of the herpes. 
She has been able to deliver all

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of her babies vaginally. 
She did not have to have a 

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cesarean. 
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healer for herself and then 
reaching out and extending as 

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healer for her friends. 
And you know, here's here's the 

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reason why I'm even talking 
about this constantly. 

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The theme is that Satan hates 
women. 

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He hates us. 
He hates he hates men and women.

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But but there is such an 
intimate wounding where when 

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women contract an STD, often it 
will do so much damage before 

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they even know that they have 
it. 

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And I want to believe for God's 
restoration, for legacy, and for

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healing for these women where 
they don't get what they 

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deserve, but they get what Jesus
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And I don't, I don't feel like 
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mercy in the church. 
Yeah, I was going to ask you why

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you thought there was pushback 
to even mentioning that God 

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could heal an STD. 
About me, I think first of all I

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was just shocked. 
They're like wait did she just 

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say STD this? 
Was not on our notes. 

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Yeah, this is not well, it's 
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in that moment, I don't know 
whether it just was a religious 

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spirit. 
I don't know whether it was an 

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idea that listen, listen, those 
we don't talk about those kind 

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of things in church. 
Good, good church girls don't 

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get St. 
DS. 

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I don't know what it is. 
I think it's that whole idea 

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that no, we think God would 
judge that we think God would 

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punish, that maybe you shouldn't
actually pray for healings on 

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something that maybe God wants 
to punish. 

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See, because I believe that God 
wants to heal people in any and 

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every area where there is 
brokenness and pain. 

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I I believe that and. 
Could even be something it's 

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like, how do we sustain that? 
We don't see people don't talk 

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about it, so we don't even know 
how to, right? 

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Maybe benefit of the doubt 
there. 

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Yeah, no, absolutely. 
And you know, I have, I have 

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consistently seen the 
faithfulness of God. 

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Whenever I preach the goodness 
of God, you know, it's not about

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me, it's not about my ability. 
It's not some unique connection 

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that I have with God. 
It was actually just obedience 

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to him asking me to do something
that I actually would have 

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preferred not to do. 
But I can only imagine the pain.

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Like that was the thing when I'm
listening, when I'm listening to

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this young girl, when we opened 
up, when we are listening to 

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this young girl and we hear her 
shame, her agony, and yes, yes, 

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without an impact, without an 
intersection with the mercy and 

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the love of God, that is going 
to be her history forever. 

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But I am believing that in these
days coming forward where we're 

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finding people that have no hope
outside of the power of God, 

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that we're going to actually see
more evidence of the power of 

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God. 
But if we only preach Jesus as 

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Savior and we only preach him as
good teacher, we're only going 

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to see him as Savior and we're 
going to only see him as good 

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teacher. 
So I guess I'm wondering, are we

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going to begin to preach Jesus 
as deliverer? 

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Are we going to begin to preach 
Jesus as healer? 

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Are we going to begin to preach 
Jesus as wise counselor? 

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Like does he get to actually 
come into every area of our 

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lives? 
Or do we only isolate areas? 

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And I've actually seen people 
get healed that aren't 

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Christians. 
And I do believe that God wants 

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to heal the believers and the 
unbelievers. 

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I believe we are very clear in 
the Bible says the signs are for

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yeah, the unbeliever. 
It invites you to that all. 

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Yep. 
And it's like nothing else. 

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Nothing in science could heal 
that STD only Jesus, right? 

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I think this is prevalent to 
right now too, because I've seen

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even in the last few months, 
such a rise of like the 

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radicalness within faith, like 
almost the comfortability. 

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And I don't want to villainize 
the church in any way, but where

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we're comfortable in faith, we 
almost don't see as much 

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movement. 
But I've seen radical. 

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So you're saying people that 
aren't even believers yet get 

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healed, have encounters, see 
Jesus and I think we're in a 

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time of radical redemption. 
And I, I want to be someone that

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one believes that communicates 
that lives that because what I 

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see as you tell that story is 
you took your testimony of what 

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had been and what it could have 
been and had faith to believe 

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for it. 
And she did the same thing. 

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And it's just this 
multiplication effect. 

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There was even I'm sure you 
probably saw, but there's like 

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only fans creators. 
I think there was one girl like 

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in the top zero point something 
percent. 

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Pretty girl with long red hair. 
Yes, I believe her name is Nala.

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And just like a radical 
encounter. 

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And it's so easy to be like, 
well. 

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Jesus, did you also hear she was
a pastor's daughter? 

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Yeah, I did see that, yeah. 
That's that's the sad thing. 

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You're wondering what she was 
raised. 

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Was she ever raised with the 
love of God? 

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Was she ever given the attention
that she deserved as a daughter?

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I mean, you wonder what happens?
And again, I don't want to 

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accuse her parents, but. 
But somehow religion fails. 

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Yeah. 
We don't know what all goes 

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behind it, but we do have an 
idea if we are believing that 

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Jesus healer, what could be in 
front of them and I'm challenged

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by that. 
If I don't want to see people 

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where they are, I want to see 
them where they could be. 

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And to he'll hear that still 
small voice of I want to hear 

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heal my daughters. 
Yeah, for, for the Holy Spirit 

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to say, I want to heal you, you 
know, and, and, and that's, I 

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think what we need to actually 
be speaking to people is that 

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God wants to set you free. 
He wants to heal you. 

447
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,720
He wants to restore your 
marriage. 

448
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,960
He wants to come into, you know,
to the place where he gives you 

449
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,840
back your voice. 
I feel like right now, 

450
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,560
Christian, so many women feel 
like they have compromised their

451
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,040
voice of love and nurture and 
wisdom, and they have embraced 

452
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:04,360
anger and rage and they've lost 
their ability to speak in any 

453
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:08,080
way that would bring wisdom and 
healing and strength and 

454
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,560
restoration into relationships. 
And, you know, I think the whole

455
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,400
idea of this fight for females, 
we want to give women back their

456
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,360
voice and we want to connect 
them to a place where they have 

457
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:23,680
an intimate relationship with 
Jesus and any shroud of shame is

458
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,840
removed. 
You know, Christian, being a 

459
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,080
woman with the past, it was 
really important for me to know 

460
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,560
what Jesus might say to 
obviously guilty women. 

461
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,520
And I can't think of a more 
obviously guilty woman than the 

462
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,280
woman taken in adultery. 
And it's crazy when you read 

463
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,200
this interaction that these 
religious leaders, Jesus is 

464
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,840
sitting down and he's speaking 
to a crowd that's all seated. 

465
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,440
And these religious leaders grab
a woman that I'm going to 

466
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,440
imagine was not fully clothed. 
He, they probably grabbed her 

467
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,520
out of the bed of adultery. 
They left the guy, which that's 

468
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,400
another conversation. 
And they, they stand her up in 

469
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,440
front of Jesus and they want him
to condemn her. 

470
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:22,720
They're like, hey, Moses said 
that women taking in adultery 

471
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,360
should be stoned to death. 
What are you, What are you going

472
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:27,800
to say, Jesus? 
Like, have you ever like, like, 

473
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,960
interacted with that and felt 
like, what would that moment be 

474
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,080
like for that woman and for the 
other women in the crowd? 

475
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,520
I know I mean to to me when I 
and when I break up with what 

476
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,640
broke you, I did a deep dive in 
my own self and research on 

477
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,640
shame and how we get there, why 
it is so catastrophic of a hole 

478
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,640
that we just sit in. 
And I came to self define shame 

479
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,600
as an inability to separate what
we've done from who we are. 

480
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,680
And I think in that moment, 
those men saw this woman not for

481
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,400
who she was, not for being 
female, not for being God's 

482
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,560
daughter of just said, well, 
she's done this. 

483
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:06,320
And actually what's interesting 
to me is it was more about 

484
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,520
catching Jesus in something. 
They said they were looking for 

485
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,800
a way to trap him. 
Than even what she had done. 

486
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,440
So I think, like we're saying 
with these other stories, is 

487
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,360
it's less about what we've done 
and it's more about what Jesus 

488
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:21,360
can do in our lives. 
Like that's, and I, I always 

489
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:25,160
hear the voice of Satan saying, 
it doesn't matter how many times

490
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,400
you cleanse her, it doesn't 
matter how many times you 

491
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,320
forgive your people, they always
go back into bed with the world.

492
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,960
So what are you going to say 
this time Jesus, Because now 

493
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,400
you're in front of the religious
leaders. 

494
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,840
You've got an audience here and 
you should condemn her. 

495
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,040
And then, you know, we see that 
Jesus at first is like, I'm, I'm

496
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:52,240
not even interacting with your 
accusations, you know, and, and 

497
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,280
I feel like we need to be really
clear. 

498
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,480
And I'm finding myself, we were 
talking about this yesterday, 

499
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:02,200
even more conscious of the 
accuser of the brethren Satan. 

500
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,640
Like when we partner with 
accusation, we're partnering 

501
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:14,000
with his favorite thing to do, 
which is accuse us, accuse God, 

502
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,480
accuse whatever. 
So he's trying to trap Jesus 

503
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,560
through the religious leaders. 
It would have been great if it 

504
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,160
was through the Romans, but it's
through the religious leaders. 

505
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,320
He's trying to trap them and, 
and Jesus just, he just keeps 

506
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,600
like drawing in the dirt. 
And I know there's a lot of 

507
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,280
people that say, oh, he was 
saying people's names. 

508
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,600
It doesn't say that. 
So I'm not going to go there. 

509
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:39,200
I do believe, I do believe he 
was thinking back to Adam and 

510
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:46,160
Eve, thinking back that he was 
the only person that could throw

511
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:51,160
a stone and chose not to. 
And he says, you who are without

512
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:56,200
sin cast the first stone. 
And what does it say? 

513
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,280
Do you remember what it says? 
Because it's it means a lot to 

514
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,280
me what it says. 
The the very next word if it 

515
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,280
means a lot to you all. 
That you're saying it says they,

516
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:11,320
they they went away 1 by 1, the 
oldest ones first. 

517
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,640
Which to me, it makes it so 
obvious that the longer you 

518
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:22,240
live, the more you know you need
mercy, the more you are willing 

519
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,240
to extend it. 
So they go away and there's just

520
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,280
Jesus and the woman. 
And that to me is also a 

521
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,760
fascinating moment because I 
would have been like, Jesus, 

522
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,560
thank you. 
OK, I'm getting out of here. 

523
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,080
I'm going to go get take his 
shoes on, get some clothes off. 

524
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,120
But she stands there. 
And I do believe there's a 

525
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:47,240
generation of women who are 
willing to stand in front of 

526
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,240
Jesus, surrounded by an audience
of accusers. 

527
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,400
You know that like they've left.
But she stood because they're 

528
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,760
tired of hearing what everybody 
else says Jesus would say about 

529
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,880
her. 
She wanted Jesus to speak 

530
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,600
directly to her. 
And I believe that is Jesus's 

531
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,400
greatest longing is to speak 
directly to his sons and his 

532
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,720
daughters, to speak to his 
brothers and sisters, because 

533
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,960
we're in Christ. 
And when he looks at her, he 

534
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,800
says, woman, where are your 
accusers? 

535
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,920
And I would have been like, 
they're gone, they're gone, 

536
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,040
thank you very much. 
But he looks at her and she said

537
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,880
they're gone. 
And then he said, what? 

538
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,720
Go. 
And sin no more. 

539
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,920
Go and sin no more. 
So we have a lot of preaching of

540
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,720
you are without sin cast of 
first stone. 

541
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,040
We have a lot of preaching of, 
you know, I do not condemn you. 

542
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,680
But we missed the third part of 
go and say no more. 

543
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,400
And there is a chapter break 
there, but there's no chapter 

544
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,720
break in the interaction. 
It says when Jesus spoke again, 

545
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,000
he said I am the light of the 
world. 

546
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,080
He who walks in me no longer 
walks in darkness, but has the 

547
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,600
light of life. 
And I feel like he was saying 

548
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,760
this is the daughter who's lived
her entire life in shadows. 

549
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,960
But now she has the power to go 
and send no more, because she's 

550
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,360
going to walk in the light of 
love and mercy. 

551
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,240
And I can only imagine, 
especially on the topic of 

552
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,120
promiscuity, I think when you 
see that Jesus sees you and 

553
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,720
loves you in the way that you've
always searched for, that can 

554
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,920
never be fulfilled in any, not 
even a healthy relationship. 

555
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,120
It cannot substitute God's love.
When you see that, you're face 

556
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,200
to face with it. 
It's like the amount of 

557
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,080
transfiguration to me. 
Like when you see that light for

558
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,480
the first time. 
It is a healing. 

559
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,960
It is an imitation to change. 
It is a ability to separate the 

560
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,440
darkness that you felt inside 
and that you've walked in. 

561
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,600
You know, even when I got saved,
Christian, you know, John 

562
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,040
invited me out on a date when he
probably shouldn't have. 

563
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,760
But I was crying out. 
I was crying out to know, jeez, 

564
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,600
I didn't even know how to find 
him. 

565
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,800
And when I heard about the love 
of God and the mercy of God, it 

566
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,920
was so irresistible and so 
compelling to me. 

567
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,680
And I was not in a church 
service. 

568
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,440
I was sitting on a bench on 
Purdue's campus. 

569
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:24,600
And I just said I, I cannot not 
respond to this love and my 

570
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,280
response to a love I did not 
deserve, my response to a mercy 

571
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,880
I did not deserve changed 
everything. 

572
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,280
And I feel like right now we 
need to be very aware of, yes, 

573
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,920
there is this love, there is 
this mercy, and there is this 

574
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,920
power to walk in newness of 
life. 

575
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,400
Yeah. 
You know, the verse that keeps 

576
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,000
coming back through all these 
stories is when it talks about 

577
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,520
those that ask, receive and just
this invitation to knock. 

578
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,600
Like what if we believe that God
can heal us, whether it be of 

579
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,600
shame or an STD? 
What if we have the audacity to 

580
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,440
believe like you're saying that 
Jesus is a healer and we go to 

581
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,800
him. 
I think not even thinking, well,

582
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,760
do my friends think this is OK? 
Did my does my pastor think this

583
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,480
is profitable? 
Like we have the word in front 

584
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,400
of us and I'm so thankful for 
teachers like we believe that 

585
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,800
with this podcast, but also how 
powerful is it as that model did

586
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,960
just go to Jesus and pray. 
He'll. 

587
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,960
Speak to you, knock, and it will
be answered like let's believe 

588
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,159
that Jesus wants to heal us and 
to speak to us, and that he is 

589
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,360
that intimate Father that looks 
at that woman standing there 

590
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,320
directly like he wants to see 
you, interact with you, heal 

591
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,920
you, and speak to you. 
You know, going back to the 

592
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,840
woman taking in adultery. 
One of my favorite stories is 

593
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,840
with Alec. 
Alec, I don't know why, but he 

594
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,159
decided to kick a hole in the 
wall. 

595
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,520
We had just moved into a house 
is brand new house and he was 

596
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,080
like trying to pretend like he 
was a karate guy and he put his 

597
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,560
foot on the wall and I don't 
know why he thought well now I 

598
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,560
need to draw back and just kick 
a hole in the wall right outside

599
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,160
of our master bedroom and it was
just like a perfect drywall like

600
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,360
hole. 
It just fell down. 

601
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,160
We picked it back up and like 
reached down, got it. 

602
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,440
And I was like, so upset. 
I was like, I can't even believe

603
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,480
that you did this. 
He's like, I know I didn't know 

604
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,200
I was that strong. 
I was like, no, this is not 

605
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,920
about you being strong. 
This is about feet belong on the

606
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,720
carpet. 
Feet do not belong on walls. 

607
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,120
And a couple nights later, I was
taking a bath and all the guys 

608
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,960
were downstairs watching a show 
and they heard water pouring out

609
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,560
of a light. 
And it was a brand new house. 

610
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,720
When I drained the bathtub, the,
the water poured out of the 

611
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:35,080
light over the sink and I had 
noticed I'd come down sometimes 

612
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,760
in the morning, there was water 
around the sink. 

613
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,160
I'm like, who's what kind of 
slump kit do I have? 

614
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,360
Well, it was coming out of the 
bathtub. 

615
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,120
It would go right into the sink.
So we had to call them. 

616
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560
They had to do a, a repair on 
our ceiling. 

617
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:48,960
And I was like, Hey, while 
you're here, can I show you 

618
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,120
another drywall repair? 
And the guy was like, oh, I 

619
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,520
totally understand. 
I've got kids. 

620
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,040
Let me just do it. 
He does it for free. 

621
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,000
So I have this big moment with 
Alec. 

622
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,760
I'm like, this was the mercy of 
God. 

623
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,360
Like, this was for free. 
You got this for free. 

624
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,320
Do you see? 
This is all taken care of. 

625
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,840
He's like, yeah. 
Going great, no more. 

626
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,640
Yes, exactly. 
Go and say no more Alec. 

627
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,600
And then I want to say 2 weeks 
later we're out to dinner and I 

628
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,320
get a call from a babysitter and
Alec had had put his foot up on 

629
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,200
the exact same place again and 
knocked a hole in the wall. 

630
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,960
And I'm like Oh my gosh. 
And John, I come home from the 

631
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,000
dinner. 
I'm like, how did you do that? 

632
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,640
Like you had supernatural 
provision. 

633
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,840
I was going to make you pay for 
it. 

634
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,920
This guy does it for free. 
You kick a hole in the wall 

635
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,800
again. 
And he looked at me and he said,

636
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,720
mom, I don't think these 
spankings are working. 

637
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:39,360
And I was like, well, you know 
what I mean? 

638
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,320
Like so when there's the fear of
judgement doesn't work, but the 

639
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,400
mercy and love of God does. 
And, and we sat down with them, 

640
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,360
you know, around here we're 
like, we're going to, we're 

641
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,640
going to have a long term 
conversation about this. 

642
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,440
But I feel like right now we 
either have people saying to 

643
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,440
people, oh, there's no 
consequence or God's going to 

644
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,960
judge you. 
And somehow we need to 

645
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,680
understand that punishment alone
isn't working. 

646
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,160
And we have a generation that is
either afraid of God's 

647
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:15,160
punishment all the time. 
So then we preach that, oh, 

648
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,160
there's no consequence and we 
need to understand there is 

649
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,240
consequence. 
But when we actually come to 

650
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:24,760
Him, there is mercy and there is
healing, right? 

651
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,360
So I think that's that's so 
good. 

652
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,640
Now I'm just thinking what age 
would Azeri be before he kicks 

653
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,040
in the holes in? 
The wall Alec was about 8 or or 

654
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,160
9. 
So I have some time. 

655
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,000
You have some time, you can 
train him, be on the ground. 

656
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,880
He's my only son that did things
like that. 

657
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,120
So while all joking aside, 
there's absolutely nothing 

658
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,920
you've done that will separate 
you from the love of God that is

659
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,640
in Christ Jesus. 
See, there's no shame. 

660
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,800
There's no sin, there's no dirty
space or place in your life that

661
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,840
he doesn't already know about, 
and you can bring it to him. 

662
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,600
You don't have to carry it in 
darkness. 

663
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,320
You don't have to carry it in 
fear. 

664
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,320
And just like Christian said, 
ask. 

665
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,880
Ask. 
If you don't ask, you can't 

666
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,800
receive. 
You know, I'm just, I know it's 

667
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,200
scary to ask and I know it's 
scary to pray, but if you don't 

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ask, you will never find out. 
I believe that this is an 

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imitation. 
I believe everything that we're 

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saying in, in all of the, the 
encouragement is just for him to

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invite you to ask him. 
Ask him to be your Lord and 

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Savior. 
Ask him to heal you. 

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Ask him into your life. 
We've all lived our lives on our

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own and found ourselves in a 
cesspool or caught in a bed with

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strangers. 
And God is just saying, I don't 

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condemn you, but stand in front 
of me and let me speak to you. 

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Let me wash you so that you can 
walk free from sin and go and 

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sin no more. 
We want to pray for you. 

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I really do believe in Christian
believe. 

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This is something we've been 
talking about ever since we did 

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this podcast. 
We want to see God's healing in 

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your life. 
And maybe you're like, I don't 

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have an STD That's great, that's
awesome. 

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But we still believe that Jesus 
is a healer. 

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Now, sometimes, sometimes people
are like, well, he doesn't 

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always heal well. 
We don't stop preaching 

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salvation just because everybody
doesn't get saved. 

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So I don't believe we should 
stop preaching healing just 

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because not everybody gets 
healed. 

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So I believe that when you pray 
the Word of God, God watches 

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over His word to perform it. 
My words are powerless, but 

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God's Word is eternal and it has
the ability to recreate, 

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restore, connect things. 
When we pray God's Word, God is 

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the one who watches over it. 
So we've mentioned Psalm one O 3

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a couple times and so I just 
want to read it to you. 

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This is the Psalm of David and I
love that David, he had 

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experienced the mercy of God in 
a number of areas. 

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Number 1, he actually committed 
adultery and experienced the 

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mercy of God. 
He murdered the the the lady's 

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husband. 
OK. 

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Also experience the mercy of 
God. 

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Now God of course would have 
loved if he didn't do either of 

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those things and there was some 
consequence, but he knew how to 

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lean back in to a relationship 
with God. 

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So Psalm one O 3 opens up with 
bless the Lord, O my soul and 

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all that is within me. 
Bless His holy name. 

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See, it isn't just about your 
mind, it's about blessing the 

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Lord with your soul. 
See, our soul is our mind and 

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will and emotions. 
Bless the Lord, O my soul and 

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all this. 
Bless His holy name. 

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Bless the Lord, O my soul, and 
forget not all his benefits. 

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What are those benefits? 
Who forgives all your 

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iniquities? 
That could also be sin forgives 

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all your iniquities and heals 
all your diseases. 

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Who redeems your life from the 
pit? 

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I think there's so many people 
right now that feel like they're

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in the pit of anxiety, a pit of 
shame, a pit of guilt, a pit of 

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sickness. 
And God wants to redeem your 

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life from the pit. 
Who crowns you with steadfast 

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love and mercy? 
Who satisfies you with good so 

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that your youth is renewed like 
the eagles? 

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The Lord works righteousness and
justice for all who are 

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oppressed. 
He made known his ways to Moses,

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his acts to the people of 
Israel. 

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And it says the Lord is merciful
and gracious, slow to anger, 

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abounding in steadfast love. 
Steadfast love means his love. 

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His love doesn't change. 
It is constant. 

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00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,920
No matter what your behavior, no
matter what your choices, God is

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00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,400
saying my love for you is 
steadfast. 

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So Christian and I are going to 
pray for you and I'm just going 

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to ask you to be in a receiving 
posture that you would actually 

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receive this promise of Psalm 
one O 3 in your life and 

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healing. 
So Father, right now we come 

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before you and you said that if 
we would bless the Lord with all

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of our soul that you would 
remind us of your benefits. 

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So Father, right now we thank 
you that you said that you not 

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00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,480
only forgive all our sins and 
iniquities. 

738
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So, Father, right now we thank 
you for forgiving us of all our 

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sins and iniquities. 
We couldn't pay the price for 

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00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:41,800
our sins and iniquities and and 
you heal all our diseases. 

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Father, I thank you for your 
healing going into the bodies of

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your daughters. 
I thank you that you wash away 

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their shame. 
I thank you that you are 

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00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,880
restoring and regenerating. 
I thank you that your word is 

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00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,320
alive and active. 
That it is like a a surgeon's 

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00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,400
tool Father, That it is sharper 
than any 2 edged sword. 

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00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,800
That it just rightly divides. 
And we speak healing and 

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00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,920
strength. 
We command every bit of shame. 

749
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I hope you heard that God's 
longing for his children is 

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healing. 
And Father, we thank you for 

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00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,360
your mercy that triumphs over 
judgment. 

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00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,280
We thank you that none of us get
what we deserve. 

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00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:26,760
So Father, we thank you for 
healing your daughters. 

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00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,160
We thank you for washing away 
their sin. 

755
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,800
We thank you for restoring what 
the enemy has tried to steal. 

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00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:38,040
We thank you for completely 
healing STI's, STD's, VD's, 

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00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,400
whatever it is. 
We thank you that the name of 

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00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,360
Jesus is higher than any 
infirmity, any sickness, any 

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00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,880
disease, or any infection. 
So we send the word of Jesus the

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00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,880
Healer into your body in Jesus 
name, Amen. 

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Thanks for joining us for 
another episode of the Fight for

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00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,160
Female podcast. 
We want to make sure that you 

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00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,200
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Until next time, this is Lisa 
Bevere. 

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