1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,760 Spiritual warfare and demonic possession. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,880 What if a Christian doesn't believe in any of this? 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,680 If you don't believe in spiritual warfare, I wish you 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,560 were right. Witchcraft is real and curses 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,360 are real. It is evident everywhere. 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,680 Sleeper palaces, Soul ties, Generational curses. 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,560 The enemy does not want to let go of patterns and curses that 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,200 he's had in families for a really long time. 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,080 What are those and how do you break them? 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,680 Welcome to the Fight for Female podcast. 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,440 I'm Lisa Bevier. I am joined by my 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,160 daughter-in-law, Christian Bevier. 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:43,440 And guys, we were shocked by how many of you resonated and 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,840 responded to the podcast we did about spiritual warfare. 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,560 I mean, I was surprised. Well, you came back and you're 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,400 like, I just feel like we need to talk about this. 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,720 And evidently we did. Evidently. 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,880 Thank you for being sensitive. Yes, I mean, well, first of all, 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,200 I want you to know how much we actually do appreciate hearing 20 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,320 back from you. We, we love it when you ask 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,760 questions. We do pay attention to them. 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,840 Our team sorts through the different questions. 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,880 We want to make sure that you feel heard. 24 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,360 We want to address the things that were confusing because 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,680 sometimes we go on rabbit trails. 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:20,120 But yeah, Christian, we are not living in just normal days. 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,040 I mean, there is demonic warfare, spiritual warfare. 28 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,040 And yet, and yet we don't need to be afraid because we have 29 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,200 spiritual authority. And that was something that was 30 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,920 one of the very first questions that came on my radar, like how 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,160 do I have spiritual authority? And then somebody else was like, 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,200 but if I'm not hearing from the the Holy Spirit, am I going to 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,920 be stripped naked and beat up like the sons of Skiva? 34 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,400 2 things. First of all, you have spiritual 35 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,400 authority because you have been given the name that is above 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,280 every other name, the name of Jesus. 37 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,160 And it's not about our words. It's about the Word. 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,240 It's about the Word of God. When we speak the Word of God, 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,360 the Word of God is weighted with God's authority and God's power. 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,240 The name of Jesus is that name that outranks every other name 41 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,080 on the promise with the sons of Skiva. 42 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,280 It wasn't that the Holy Spirit didn't lead them. 43 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,520 They even know the Holy Spirit. They were not even Christians. 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,600 They said hey, hey, the I think it let's cast it out in the name 45 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,640 of the guy that Paul calls out the name. 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,920 They were a couple times removed. 47 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,600 They did not have an intimate relationship with a living 48 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:34,560 Savior. They did not know Jesus Christ. 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,000 They knew about him because of Paul. 50 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,240 They didn't even know him. So if you you know Jesus, you 51 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,440 have the right to that name, the name of Jesus. 52 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,040 Yeah. So. 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,680 Amen. And thank goodness for that, 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,320 because as you're saying, there are some things that we're 55 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,640 wrestling because we do have an enemy and he does want to attack 56 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:55,760 us. I want to ask you one of the 57 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,160 first questions that I think we have to get. 58 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:03,280 Just attack it first is what if a Christian doesn't believe in 59 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,680 any of this? They're like, Lisa, there's no 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,640 spiritual warfare. I haven't seen this. 61 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:08,400 You're just trying to make this all religious. 62 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,480 What do you say to that? I wish you. 63 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,080 I First of all, if you don't believe in spiritual warfare, I 64 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,720 wish you were right. I I wish I could say there is no 65 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,240 spiritual warfare. I wish I could say, hey, yeah, 66 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,640 that's right. Every demon is locked away. 67 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:24,880 There's no demonic forces. But it is evident everywhere, 68 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,080 there is no missing that there is demonic oppression. 69 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,680 You know, maybe people call it mental illness, but and then 70 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,200 again, I'm not saying there can't be people that have 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,640 chemical imbalances in the brain. 72 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,120 I'm not saying that. I am just saying there's suicide 73 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,680 is up. You got to know the enemy hates 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,800 those that are made in the image of God. 75 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Depression is up, oppression is up, schizophrenia is up. 76 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,720 Every single thing that attacks the mind is up. 77 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,680 Then we see all the different things happening in people's 78 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,920 bodies. And you know, right now it's 79 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,560 kind of the day and the time, Christian, that we almost need 80 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,200 to be praying. If we eat or drink any deadly 81 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,480 thing, it will not harm us because we are living in a world 82 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,760 that is supposedly inundated with mercury and all of this 83 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,160 different bad stuff being slipped in unaware. 84 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,680 And yet we have the protection of God. 85 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,000 And so we want you to be at peace. 86 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,200 And you brought you brought up something you asked me if I had 87 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,760 told a story. So I think I'm going to I'm 88 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,360 going to tell a story on the front end. 89 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,040 So John and I, John was a youth pastor. 90 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,000 I was pregnant with our second son. 91 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:36,640 We, you know, we kind of would keep it on the DL for a little 92 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,760 bit. And then we, we had a youth 93 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,560 picnic and we told everybody at the youth picnic that I was 94 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,600 expecting. And our pastor announced it from 95 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,280 the stage. Now, I was probably pretty far 96 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:51,800 along. I think I was 10 or 11 weeks 97 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,320 when when he announced it from the stage that that I was 98 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,640 pregnant. And John went back to service 99 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:04,320 that night and I get this random call from this girl that had 100 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,800 been in our youth group had supposedly left witchcraft. 101 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:15,200 And she said she just calls the house and she says, I hear you 102 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,680 might be pregnant. And and I was so annoyed. 103 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,080 So I said, no, no, I am pregnant. 104 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,000 And she said, well, you never know, do you? 105 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,760 And she hung up and I thought, what a crazy, what a crazy. 106 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,760 That lady's crazy. And so I just kind of just 107 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,800 brushed it aside, didn't say anything to John, you know, put, 108 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,280 put Addison to bed, went to to the offices. 109 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:42,040 The next day, I was producing John's youth program. 110 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,680 And I started cramping really bad. 111 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,080 And I had drank coffee that morning and I thought I 112 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,880 shouldn't have drank coffee. Yeah, I'm just, I'm just 113 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,040 cramping so bad. And we had to wear pantyhose. 114 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,240 We had to wear pantyhose. Yeah, pantyhose, our problem. 115 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,720 But we had to wear a pantyhose. That was code. 116 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,520 And so I go into the women's restroom and I have blood down 117 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,120 to my knees. And I just very calmly went and 118 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,720 found my husband. I really had a sense the Holy 119 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,880 Spirit said, do not share this with anybody who will not stand 120 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,680 in agreement with you. I want you only share it with 121 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,960 people that are going to agree with you that this baby will 122 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,480 live and not die. And so I came to John and the 123 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,680 shuttle was launching and John's outside and I'm like, hey, don't 124 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,600 we need to go to the doctor's? And he's like, Oh no, wait, 125 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,120 wait, you have an appointment today. 126 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,320 I'm like John, I mean, you go to the doctor's and he's like here, 127 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,800 no, just the shuttle. And I'm like, John, we need to 128 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,680 go to the doctor's. Yes, exactly. 129 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,720 We get in the car and I told him what was going on. 130 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,400 I said, I have blood down to my knees, so we need to go to the 131 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,680 doctor's right now. And he put his hand on me and he 132 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,400 said, I don't know why, but I sense that I should be breaking 133 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,480 witchcraft off of you. And so I said, well then do it. 134 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,200 He said, I break witchcraft in the name of Jesus. 135 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,840 I break every curse off of you. I bless this womb. 136 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,000 You will not miscarry. You will carry this baby full 137 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,520 term. So we go to the doctor's office. 138 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,400 They see the blood. They're just panic. 139 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,960 They're like, put me in a room right away. 140 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,120 And they, they say, OK, the doctor will be in. 141 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Well, somehow no one told the doctor that I was in the room. 142 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:25,280 The doctor went on lunch break. And so I am in this room waiting 143 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,480 for the doctor to come in, in a gown, as you know. 144 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,440 And I'm sitting there waiting and waiting and waiting. 145 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,000 And by the time the doctor came in and did the exam, he said, I, 146 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,800 I don't know what's going on. I see all this blood. 147 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,880 But whatever was going on has stopped. 148 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,760 You are you're not miscarrying. He said, you're you're 149 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,600 everything is perfect. But they put me on bed rest for 150 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,800 a week. And I remember John calling the 151 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,920 young girl and said, did you call Lisa to cast a spell on 152 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,040 her? And she said yes. 153 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,360 And he said, why would you do that? 154 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,320 And she said, I love the power. And he said you, you're not 155 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,640 welcome at the youth group anymore. 156 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,200 And it was, I mean, it was crazy and beautiful. 157 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,920 True story was the word of God prevailed. 158 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,560 I did give birth to Austin. He was perfect spirit, soul and 159 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,840 body. He didn't have any problems. 160 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,600 But but witchcraft is real and curses are real. 161 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:35,919 And we need to have an awareness that even though the enemy can 162 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:40,919 rant and rave and curse, we need to shut him off. 163 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,840 You know, one of our team members was telling me a story 164 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,360 and I'm, I'm going to very loosely paraphrase it, but I 165 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,640 think you'll get the principal. She was telling me that this 166 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,080 this gentleman was sharing his testimony about how he gotten 167 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,640 saved and he'd gotten saved, but he'd been doing shrooms and he 168 00:08:56,680 --> 00:08:59,120 was kind of like looking at the Bible and be like, I don't I 169 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,240 don't see anything in the Bible it. 170 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,800 Says John the Baptist. Yeah. 171 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,720 It's like I don't see anything. The Bible, it says no shrooms 172 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:11,840 and so he did some shrooms and it went from being an amazing 173 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,760 experience and enlightening experience to he found himself 174 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,160 in a nightmare where he literally felt like he was going 175 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:25,280 to die. And he heard this argument where 176 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:30,400 he, he had such a sense, it was like demons saying he is ours. 177 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:35,240 And he heard Jesus say, no, I paid the price for him. 178 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:40,080 And then the demon said, but he has been partaking of, of the 179 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:45,640 food of our table. And he said Jesus like, like 180 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,280 said, you know, it's it's cancelled or whatever. 181 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,120 And he said in, in his trip, in whatever was going on, he said, 182 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,280 Jesus said, let's not do that anymore. 183 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,280 I'm just like, that was, yeah. He said never again. 184 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,080 He said, I never did shrooms again. 185 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:06,000 And, and there's, there's things like we, we can open doors, but 186 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,760 we also have authority to shut them. 187 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:13,800 But, but why, why open the door? Why not say this house is 188 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,320 sanctified? This house is separated for the 189 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,600 presence of God. This house is set apart for the 190 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,560 glory of God. This house that I live in, we 191 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:27,440 are disciples taught of the Lord and there is peace in this house 192 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,440 and too many people don't know that those things they, they 193 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,240 need to have intention added to them. 194 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,120 Well, you're hitting on some comments that we had some 195 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,280 questions and I think this is this is good. 196 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,400 I want to go into one, kind of push this conversation a little 197 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,280 further and end with hopes if you're listening and you're 198 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,280 like, OK, I'm terrified. No, no, no. 199 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,840 Listen, like what we're going to talk about is, is going back to 200 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,160 that authority and how we we exercise that. 201 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,120 But someone asks, can a demon touch you if you're saved you? 202 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,160 You shared on that a little bit. And I think there's a difference 203 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,520 between spiritual warfare and actually demonic possession. 204 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,440 Will you enlighten that? Absolutely. 205 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:12,200 I mean, I wish the second that that we get saved that there's 206 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,440 no attacks of the enemy. What did Paul say? 207 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,920 He had a thorn in the flesh. He said a messenger of Satan 208 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,840 came to buff at me. He constantly and he's like God 209 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,400 help, help. And God was like, my grace is 210 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,640 sufficient. So obviously, obviously it 211 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,160 wasn't that Paul did something wrong. 212 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,320 It was that the enemy wants to hinder the word of God going 213 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,160 forth. So I have found that any of the 214 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,840 attacks are not authored by God. He isn't like hey let's attack 215 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,760 Lisa, but he will use those things to grow a stronger. 216 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,840 So the attacks the I mean he tells us the thief comes to 217 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,520 steal, kill and destroy. But I might come that I have 218 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,680 come that they might have life and life to the full or life 219 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:03,600 more abundantly. So there is 2 forces abundant 220 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,520 life and death, killing, destroying. 221 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,920 So this is the opposing God is the author of life. 222 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,000 Satan is the author of death. God is the author of truth. 223 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,000 Satan is the author of lies. He's the father of lies is what 224 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,120 Jesus said. So yes, there is a tax, but that 225 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,920 is why everything I and I totally believe this, everything 226 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,240 we need to do spiritual warfare is in the Bible. 227 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,320 I believe it's in the word of God and and I believe that you 228 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,280 can look at the word of God, look even at patterns of 229 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:42,160 people's lives, heroes in the faith, learn from them and then 230 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:48,240 address things accordingly. 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So let's talk about addressing 243 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,560 those how to fight the supernatural supernaturally. 244 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,240 You talked about in the former video of drawing a bloodline, 245 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,000 how someone wants to know how do you do that? 246 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,760 How do I draw a bloodline? You know, and I guess you know 247 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,520 that that's fair. That's fair. 248 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,760 I could have. So I you know, I think and I was 249 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,240 referring to how when I was in my parents house and how it felt 250 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,840 like the oppression in the household was so strong. 251 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,400 But for me, the way I drew a bloodline and didn't actually 252 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:01,240 like draw a bloodline. I just said my room is under the 253 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,640 blood of Jesus. My room is under the lordship of 254 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,280 Jesus Christ. This room is set apart for the 255 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,760 Holy Spirit, not for an unholy spirit, not for a demonic and 256 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,440 there is no crossing the the blood of Jesus in this, there's 257 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,160 no this, this space. And you know, I even when I 258 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,840 travel with, with the sweet girls, whenever I travel in a 259 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,600 hotel room, I don't know what's been going on in the hotel room. 260 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:33,160 I pray over every single hotel room and I won't I will ask the 261 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,040 girls traveling. I say when you get in your room, 262 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,400 you pray over your room, you pray over your room, say every 263 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,240 unclean spirit and the unholy thing. 264 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,800 You do not interrupt my sleep while I am here. 265 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,680 The presence of God is here. You put on worship music, you 266 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,800 arrest that that environment for the presence of God. 267 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,560 Yeah, what? So that's how I did the 268 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,680 bloodline. So it's through prayer we speak. 269 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,760 It's through what we believe. Through how the word of. 270 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,760 God yes. So it's not. 271 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,080 No blood. Sorry. 272 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,480 Sorry. It's not like in a hole in the. 273 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,560 Drawing that understood that. But we do have authority. 274 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,040 Pleading the blood of Jesus. Through what we say. 275 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,520 And we are vessels of the Holy Spirit. 276 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,280 So what we say, what we believe, what we partner with is 277 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,000 powerful. And there's a question that 278 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,440 someone else has and it's around breaking generational curses. 279 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,360 And again, I want to say the power in our tongue, but I want 280 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,080 to pause and just read this verse real quick. 281 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,800 Isaiah 94 says for God will break the chains that find his 282 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,480 people. And I want to highlight, I think 283 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,880 sometimes when we talk about spiritual attacks, when we talk 284 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,600 about generational things, even right now, we, you you touched 285 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,440 on mental health. We think, well, this is who I am 286 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,240 or this is how my parents were. This has been going on for 287 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,240 decades. I I just can't do anything about 288 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,120 it. But we know that. 289 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,520 And you've even shared this, how we can break generational 290 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,240 curses. Yeah. 291 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,440 People want to know what does that look like? 292 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Well, I mean, first of all, let's just go with the the 293 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,480 mental health thing because I feel like that is an epidemic 294 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:06,880 and a challenge for a lot of people. 295 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,720 You have to renew your mind. Like most of us have crazy minds 296 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,120 because I mean like we're living in a crazy time. 297 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,760 Yes, exactly. And and your feelings, your 298 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,960 feelings can lie to you. They can take you emotional 299 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,560 hostage, but you have to renew your mind. 300 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,040 And how we renew our mind isn't by looking at what everybody 301 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,040 else is doing, how we renew our mind. 302 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,080 And, and John, and I always say it this way is by reading the 303 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,000 word until the word reads us where, where we are actually at 304 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,080 this place where we're not just reading scriptures, but the 305 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,200 scripture becomes alive to us and it begins to read to us. 306 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,280 Like what is going on when I read this, when it says this, 307 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,720 when it says, hey, if you do not forgive, you will not be 308 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,560 forgiven. Like one of the ways of breaking 309 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,840 generational curses that people like I would love you, just 310 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,640 like, oh snap, that's done is forgiving things that seem 311 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,040 unforgivable. Like I, I know for me, I had to 312 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:16,880 forgive my father and I had to forgive my mother and I had to 313 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,480 forgive them of things that I would prefer not to forgive them 314 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,400 because I believe the lie that if I forgave them, it gave them 315 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,680 permission to do it again. But the truth is by forgiving 316 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,360 them, it gave me permission to begin anew because I have found 317 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,920 that the things that you refuse to forgive are the things you 318 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,920 are doomed to repeat. And so I don't want to repeat 319 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,640 the pain. I want a new beginning. 320 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,880 And I, I know every single generation, listen, we have a 321 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:55,480 chance to say, listen, I'm going to blame the last generation and 322 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,720 say I'm messed up because my mom didn't hold me or this didn't 323 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,720 happen, or my parents got divorced. 324 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:07,680 We have, we have an exhaustive resume of the why we should be 325 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,800 messed up. But then we have this moment in 326 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:17,920 time where Jesus says to us, everything that I did for you, 327 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:19,760 everything. This is what Peter says. 328 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:25,960 Everything, life and godliness has been given to you through 329 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,160 the knowledge of Jesus Christ, not just knowing about him, but 330 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,400 knowing him and I, I don't think we understand the great, 331 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,760 exceeding, great and precious promises. 332 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,560 That's what that's what Peter tells us. 333 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,680 There is this that by those great exceeding and precious 334 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,320 promises, we become partakers of the divine nature. 335 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,520 So it's not my fallen nature of my parents. 336 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,120 It's not my crazy nature of the mentality that I grew up with or 337 00:18:55,120 --> 00:18:58,040 the things I was told or if I was bullied, whatever it was, 338 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,520 there is a invitation to be a partaker of a divine nature. 339 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,280 And and that is what we need to give to the next generation. 340 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,880 Do you want to stay trapped in your old nature or do you want 341 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,000 to be a partaker of divine nature and have divine 342 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,520 authority? Because you know, and I've said 343 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,640 this to people and I think I might have said in the spiritual 344 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,040 warfare time, you will never have authority over the things 345 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,480 you're in agreement with. You will never have authority 346 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,000 over the things you're entertained by. 347 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,880 You, you, you know, like people are like, oh, I'm casting. 348 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,800 Well, no, you have agreement with that. 349 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,040 You know, when you're in unforgiveness and you see a 350 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,960 pattern going on in your life, you have to say, why is that 351 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:39,800 pattern in my life? Why? 352 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:42,920 Well, are you living in that pattern? 353 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,360 You're repeating that pattern, you're rehearsing that pattern 354 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,520 because we all know that if you look back, you go back and too 355 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,440 many people are not renewing their mind. 356 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,400 You know, I'm what you think of the next question. 357 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,360 I'm going to read that promise because that is that is I I 358 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:04,400 wrote about. Being partakers of the divine 359 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,400 nature, I, I wrote about that in and without rival. 360 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,880 And to me it was just something that I was like, I don't know 361 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:19,240 I've ever seen that that we have this invitation and the 362 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:26,360 invitation is by way of promise. It is second Peter chapter one, 363 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,840 verse 3. It says His divine power has 364 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,120 granted to us, not just to ministers, granted to us all 365 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:39,560 things, not just some things, all things that pertain to life 366 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:45,480 and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us 367 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,840 to be His own glory and excellence, by which He has 368 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:54,320 granted us His precious and very great promises, so that through 369 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,360 them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having 370 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:03,480 escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of 371 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,400 sinful desires. I love that. 372 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,720 Then it says, for this very reason, make every effort to 373 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,640 supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with 374 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,320 knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control 375 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,400 with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, 376 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,840 and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly 377 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,080 affection with love. So, and then it goes on to say, 378 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,480 for if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep 379 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,400 you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of 380 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,920 our Lord Jesus Christ. So in Christianity, one of the 381 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:47,640 ways we break bad things is by displacing them with good 382 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,360 things. We renew our mind, we look at 383 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:54,080 the promises of God instead of the pain of our past or the 384 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,760 words of our future. You know, I, I mean of, of our 385 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,120 parents, my parents in their own fears, in their own fears. 386 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,520 It was tragically mostly my mom. My mom would say the worst 387 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,920 things over me, but she didn't do it to be mean. 388 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,400 She did it because she was afraid. 389 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,040 She would say things like you're just like your dad or you're 390 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,280 just like your uncle or you're just like that. 391 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,040 And and it was never a compliment until when I became a 392 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,160 Christian, I had to say, no, I'm not just like any of that. 393 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,560 I am being transformed into his image as I behold him. 394 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,240 I'm not repeating them. And so when we want to break 395 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,360 patterns, we have to have a pattern to follow. 396 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,960 And Jesus looking unto Jesus, who is the author or the 397 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,160 beginner, and the finish, yeah, of our faith. 398 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,760 I love that. So from day one, as soon as we 399 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,200 start confessing Jesus, as soon as we start saying I just want 400 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,120 the first of the spirits, we're actually engaging in warfare. 401 00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:59,000 And I love that because I do think the tendencies. 402 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,400 I think there's moments and then I think there's journey, yeah. 403 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,480 Yeah, but it's like we're we're starting that race and we're 404 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,680 starting out powerful. I think the tendency is to think 405 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,480 when it comes to spiritual warfare, everything coming 406 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,160 against us is so powerful. We got to try to just get some 407 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,000 strength to combat it. But I'm like, what I'm hearing 408 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,440 is, no, we are powerful because we're his and he teaches us how 409 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,440 in walking in his image. We are waging a war. 410 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,160 And I love that because we're not on the defensive. 411 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,440 We can actually be on the offensive to bring Kingdom come. 412 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:35,480 And I love to wrap this with even showing that power because 413 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,280 we've heard, we hear the story of this woman speaking 414 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,080 witchcraft over your womb. But then I've seen you get to 415 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,720 pray for deliverance over other women's womb. 416 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,680 So can you just share? I don't know if there's a story 417 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,120 that comes to mind or something of the beauty and the power that 418 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,840 that is spiritual authority. Yeah, well, and, and first of 419 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,560 all, I think we have to yield. You know, it's scary. 420 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,760 It's scary to pray for somebody who's hurting and think, well, 421 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,760 what if what if they don't get healed or, or what if we need to 422 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,280 stop doing the what ifs. We need to let God be God up in 423 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,240 in Denver, there was this beautiful young girl. 424 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,880 She come to school with Addison and Austin. 425 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:20,520 She was, she's a twin, 2 beautiful girls, very godly, 426 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,920 kind girls and I would see them every once in a while. 427 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,080 She was a makeup artist and they had her at the church and she 428 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,840 was doing my makeup and I'm talking to her. 429 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,520 I'm like how she do. She had lost baby after baby 430 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,240 after baby. And I think the last one she had 431 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,120 lost was stillborn. And I'm just sitting there like, 432 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:46,360 Oh my gosh, this beautiful young girl, this godly young girl. 433 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,880 And, and why, you know, and, and, and we can, we can ask 434 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,680 wrong questions. God, why were you faithful to me 435 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:58,080 and not to her? And, and I remember I was given, 436 00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:04,120 you know, 35 minutes to, to minister and I get done and I 437 00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:08,920 see her. And I didn't want to pray for 438 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,240 her because sometimes when people have gone through so much 439 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:18,960 sadness, I didn't want, I didn't want to make her hope again, to 440 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,760 have that hope disappointed. But I came off the stage and I, 441 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,760 I grabbed a hold of her. Well, first of all, I prayed for 442 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,160 all the women that were having a hard time conceiving and having, 443 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,160 having babies, carrying them full term. 444 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,080 But I came off the stage and I laid hands on her and she just 445 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,040 wept and I cried and I went home. 446 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,880 And then she sent a video and I just remember her sending this 447 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,840 video and she'd given birth to a beautiful little boy and the 448 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,000 redemption of God. Now, I'm not the one that got 449 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,560 her pregnant. Her husband did. 450 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,200 But but sometimes somebody just needs that, that leap of faith. 451 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,080 Sometimes somebody needs someone to come alongside and speak life 452 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,000 into a barren place in their life. 453 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:13,280 But there's only a few and maybe who knows, maybe even with the 454 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,560 battle that we had fought when I laid in. 455 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,040 I mean, like I remember telling John I, I was bedridden and John 456 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,840 said, do you want this is back? People didn't have TV's in their 457 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,160 bedroom. And John was like, do you want 458 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,320 me to bring the TV in the bedroom? 459 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,360 And I said, no, I am going to read the word. 460 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,440 And of course Addison was driving cars over me. 461 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,080 But I'm like, I'm reading the word. 462 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,560 I'm I am going to gear up whether I lose this baby or 463 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,480 carry this baby full term. I am, I'm going to strengthen my 464 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,600 spirit. I'm going to pray in the spirit. 465 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,560 I'm going to worship. I'm going to. 466 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,600 Now, I didn't earn it. I didn't earn it, but I, I 467 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,720 strengthen myself. And, you know, going back to the 468 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,720 question about why I don't believe in spiritual warfare. 469 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,200 Well, God obviously does because he's, he gives you a sword, He 470 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,360 gives you a helmet. He gives you all. 471 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,160 He gives you all honors. Yeah. 472 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,240 And I mean, Ephesians, it's like like, hey, this is this is 473 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,400 what's going on, he said. This is no, this is no like 474 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,320 afternoon like athletic contest. This is a war. 475 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,400 This is for keeps. And. 476 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,240 And I think. Exactly this is a having done 477 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,200 all to stand stand there for and then he tells us how we stand 478 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,240 and then we you know, we hear so clear in James. 479 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,920 You know that what do we do? And I think that's what a lot of 480 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,000 times and I, I feel like we've probably said this before, but I 481 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,560 feel like it's worth repeating. Spiritual warfare always begins 482 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,280 with humility. Submit yourself to God, resist 483 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,960 the devil and he will flee. We don't resist the devil in our 484 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,120 strength. We submit ourselves to God. 485 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:53,920 We resist the devil and he will flee. 486 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,120 And, and I think sometimes you have to stand and you're like, 487 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:01,720 I've submitted God. You said this, this is what your 488 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,040 word says. This is what you know, I'm not 489 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:09,080 my household is going to honor you and I mean there's so many 490 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:14,160 moms that are in in that in between right now where they 491 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,960 have fallen on their face and they have cried out to God. 492 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,480 They have submitted to God and they have resist the devil and 493 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,880 they're like Satan. You're not going to have our 494 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,080 kids and yet they're in that in between and maybe you're here 495 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,960 right now and you're in that in between having done all to 496 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,520 stand. You just stand, just stand. 497 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,040 It is not the end of of the story. 498 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,200 Do not allow the enemy to steal your strength. 499 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,960 Do not give him even an inch of ground. 500 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,440 Let the what the things that you prayed over your kids, the 501 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,840 declarations, the the hope, the dreams. 502 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,760 Let those things be what you see when everything in the natural 503 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,000 looks. Nope, that's not what's 504 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,240 happening. You need to see your son or your 505 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,760 daughter according to the things that God has imprinted on your 506 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,640 heart. Don't let go. 507 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,880 Don't castaway your confidence because God is on your side. 508 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,040 God wants that child reconciled to him more than you even want 509 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,480 that child reconciled to God. And so God is partnering. 510 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,320 And you know, I've had so many opportunities to pray with so 511 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,160 many wives. They're like, my husband wants 512 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,640 to divorce me. And we will join hands and say, 513 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,640 God. Your word says that you hold the 514 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,640 heart of the King in your hand and you can turn it. 515 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,520 However, whatever direct turn this man's heart back to his 516 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,840 wife, turn his heart back to his children. 517 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,880 And, and you know what? I would rather pray and believe. 518 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,680 And if the man leaves, he leaves. 519 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,880 But it might just be that we pray and we believe and he 520 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,120 stays. And I find too many people don't 521 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,840 even bother to pray because they're like, well, I don't know 522 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,080 if it's going to do any good. I would rather pray and be 523 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,280 disappointed than not pray. Yes, and I mean, and Jesus, 524 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,640 Jesus told his disciple, ask that your Father would be 525 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,360 glorified. And I think we are very hesitant 526 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,760 to ask that our Father would be glorified. 527 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,320 If we have to see the victory to feel victorious. 528 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,160 But I think the victory is, as you're saying, in the humbling, 529 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,000 in the asking. It starts. 530 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,720 It starts with humility. With her, yeah, I mean. 531 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,560 It's a victory, and from there? See victory, right. 532 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,440 I mean if, if and again, going back to the book of Jude, we 533 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,200 don't stand our own strength. It says if Michael, when he was 534 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,920 arguing with the devil over Moses's body, he did not say I 535 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,120 rebuke you. He said the Lord rebuke you. 536 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,520 So we do not come in our own authority, we come in the word 537 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,760 of God, and the Lord rebuke you. Yeah, I mean you shared on sleep 538 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,400 paralysis in the other video. I had no idea that with the 539 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,960 thing well. Some people don't even. 540 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,840 I thought this was just happening to. 541 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,520 Me because OK, so I was shocked by how many people were like 542 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,440 yes, I suffered with sleep problems for a for a year. 543 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,400 It is not I mean and again God says in his word, I give my 544 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,680 beloved sleep he says that you will lay down in peace. 545 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,560 There are promises and the enemy is like, Nope, this is going to 546 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,840 happen. No, no, he does not get to be 547 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:38,840 the author of how you sleep. And, and again, I, I, I have 548 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,240 just seen the faithfulness of God when you exalt the name of 549 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,080 Jesus. Now I know that it's scary 550 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,840 because when that thing happens, it always overwhelms you with 551 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,120 fear and it always says you can't say anything. 552 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,920 It always says this is going to happen. 553 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,800 But it, it, it lies. It lies so. 554 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,000 To speak the name. Of Jesus. 555 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,880 I mean, you don't have to even have a scripture to say Jesus 556 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,840 and, and you know, but I mean, I, I'd love people to put the 557 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,680 word of God in them so that it comes out of them in a, in a 558 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,520 hard situation. But God is not looking for a 559 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,440 theological discourse. He just wants you to a child to 560 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,160 cry out his name. When, when my, if I was scared 561 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,520 at night and I call for my mom, I didn't have to have like a 562 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,760 poem. I just yelled out mom, but she 563 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,840 would come, you know, and I would just get louder and 564 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,320 louder. So she heard me and she came. 565 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,240 And I think it's the same way with Jesus. 566 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,720 Yeah, some of it just need to. Get loud. 567 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,560 You've said this before, but the way to get out of a nightmare is 568 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,960 to have a dream. Yes, say that better than I just 569 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,000 said it. No, that's. 570 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,040 Beautiful. Well, the way that God combats 571 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,760 nightmares is with dreams and and I think too many people are 572 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,440 so well acquainted with their past, with their bondage, with 573 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,080 their shame, with their mistakes, instead of having like 574 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,200 what we talked about in second Peter, having their mind renewed 575 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,920 to the exceedingly great and precious promises. 576 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,880 I mean literally when when I read Ephesians chapter 1, when 577 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,520 you read Ephesians chapter one verse 16 and it begins to 578 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:15,320 describe that we would know him that we would know. 579 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,800 And it talks about the height and the depth and the width and 580 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,760 the breadth. When weep, meditate on the 581 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,240 promises of God, the power and the authority of God. 582 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,920 See, the enemy doesn't want you to know you have authority. 583 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,400 So he, he wants you to pretend like, oh, that, you know, I 584 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,240 don't have authority. He wants to pretend like he's 585 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,680 all powerful, but he's not. But having said that, we do need 586 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,280 to close some doors. We need to close some doors with 587 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,160 distraction, with agreement with the enemy. 588 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,080 Like what the guy said partaking with the table. 589 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,720 I thought that's communion. We have communion with the 590 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,400 Lord's table. We don't commune with demons. 591 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,360 We don't partake of the demons. We don't go to what used to 592 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,240 bring us comfort when he is our comfort. 593 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,760 You know, we don't, we like when and again, I get it that we, we 594 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:11,719 might mess up, but when we find out, I mean, I again, it just 595 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,920 seems like Jesus really, let's not do that again. 596 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,800 Like he's, he has a personality. He does not speak in King James 597 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,040 English. He speaks how we can hear him. 598 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,880 And, and I think for me, I, I know every time I've ever done 599 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,800 anything wrong that I have felt so much shame and guilt about, I 600 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,560 always hear back. I forgive you. 601 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,120 I believe you want to change. You know, if there's a vote of 602 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,639 confidence, it's not a condemnation. 603 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:44,040 And I believe you can. Yeah, I think people. 604 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,800 Yeah, but not my own strength, yeah. 605 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,400 That's OK. You, you kind of touched on 606 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,719 this, but it's a closing question and I just want to lead 607 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,880 people this is what's your advice for someone that thinks I 608 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,120 want to be strong? I want to make sure I'm not 609 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,080 communing in partnership? Would you advise them to just 610 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,320 pray for eye opening? Pray for conviction? 611 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,440 First of all, I I don't know that people pause with the Holy 612 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,320 Spirit long enough. Like it's not a formula and we 613 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,240 have a prayer for you got it to go through. 614 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:17,520 But it's not a formula. It's a it's a structure for you 615 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,960 to ponder and sit with some stuff. 616 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,720 So like, for example, you can form a soul tie like it, it 617 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:28,920 talked and they can be good. It talked about Jonathan and 618 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,960 David. Their souls were knit, they were 619 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,680 knit together and that was a relationship that brought 620 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:41,040 strength to both. But when you have an ungodly or 621 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,560 unhealthy or sexual relationship with someone that is not your 622 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,200 husband, not your wife, you know it. 623 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:53,160 When when that kind of knitting happens, you need to actually on 624 00:35:53,160 --> 00:36:00,320 purpose say I break that. I want all of my heart and all 625 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,480 of my soul to be connected to my Lord and connected to the 626 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,640 people. That is healthy. 627 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,720 And it doesn't have to be weird. It doesn't have to be anything. 628 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,920 Sometimes it can even be something that happens in 629 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,280 wounding. So I literally sat there and I 630 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:22,600 said, God, you said in your word that your angels are are there 631 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,720 to be ministers to the heirs of salvation. 632 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,960 I can't go up and go get my asshole back. 633 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,120 Let's go get that out of your pocket. 634 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,160 I'm like, I'm like, I don't know. 635 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,360 I don't know these people's phone numbers anymore. 636 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,960 I'm like, God, I don't know who I have ungodly alliances with, 637 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,560 ungodly agreements with. I know who I have had sex with, 638 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,560 but I don't know who all's broken my heart. 639 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,520 I don't know what I've agreed. I don't know what I've let in. 640 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,160 So I'm going to just pause and I just Holy Spirit, show me, show 641 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,520 me any area I'm fragmented and I'm broken and I'm there's been 642 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,480 something unhealthy that has aligned itself where I looked 643 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,280 for health and I found something unhealthy and just paused. 644 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:12,320 And then I just was like, I, I just asked and and I and I love 645 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,640 that God has A2 edged sword and it severs, but it heals. 646 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:24,160 And I was like, God set me free from anything and anyone who 647 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,600 keeps me away from you. Jesus said I didn't come to 648 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,400 bring peace, but I came to bring a sword. 649 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,280 He didn't come to kill a bunch of people. 650 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:37,200 He came to set the captives free and he brings the sword to sever 651 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,800 and cut us free from everything that holds us back from him. 652 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,240 He wants us totally free to be totally his. 653 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:47,600 And so I think just even pausing and saying, God, just anything 654 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:53,920 in my life that has gotten entangled, that blocks the other 655 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,240 people from getting life because see, you can be entangled with 656 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:58,520 somebody. I had an unhealthy soul tie with 657 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,800 my mom. I, I don't know if I said this, 658 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,280 I had an unhealthy soul tie with mom. 659 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,520 You think, how can you have asked your mother if she wasn't 660 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,520 happy? I felt guilty about being happy. 661 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,640 If she came over to my house, she would say, it's not fair. 662 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,760 You have good babies. All you would, you just had 663 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,440 colic. You just cried all the time. 664 00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:20,520 You, you didn't deserve to have good babies. 665 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,160 And I would just shrink and, and just the things that she would 666 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:30,680 say, I couldn't feel good. I remember we, we moved into a 667 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,360 house and my husband was like, I mean, and he was like so happy 668 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,960 to host my mom for Thanksgiving. And she looked at her house and 669 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,160 she said, well, you just got everything, didn't you, Lisa? 670 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,760 Everything I should have had, you got. 671 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,360 And so I felt like anything that I had was a robbery from her. 672 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,960 Now can I just tell you I'm thrilled when I see my kids get 673 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,760 blessed. But you know, I don't know if I 674 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,480 would have been if I wouldn't have disentangled myself from my 675 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,000 mom and the guilt. And so I had to say I am not 676 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,480 responsible for my mother's choices. 677 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,520 I am not responsible for my mother's happiness. 678 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,000 I'm responsible to love. I'm responsible to honor. 679 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,920 But I I asked that God would sever everything that's 680 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,960 unhealthy and entangling us so that I'm free, I don't feel 681 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,680 indebted, so I'm free to love her and she's free to love me. 682 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,880 And it was as simple as that. You said something not in this 683 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,880 episode, but it's coming to mind of how it's not even the person, 684 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,520 but it's the pattern. And I think that's applicable 685 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,840 here because as we know, we don't wage war as natural. 686 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,280 It's it's demonic, it's flesh and blood. 687 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,360 And so I think and those temptation with right now and 688 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,600 you're saying, oh, well, it's boundaries and toxic. 689 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,640 Let's make it more than that because I think we there's 690 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,920 sometimes and you've shared this a little bit, maybe with your 691 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,000 mom, maybe with other people, but there is actually authority 692 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,840 on the other side of that. So if we just think, Oh well, 693 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,720 that's the person. Yeah, I didn't lock my mom out 694 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:00,360 of the house. I'm never. 695 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,720 Going to talk to you again because you're just evil. 696 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:04,560 Yeah, it's like we're just, we're not, we're not going 697 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,440 around this. That's not going again, the 698 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,000 humility forgiveness route. So that could have been like, 699 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,280 oh, I distanced myself, but I didn't heal. 700 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,800 I didn't get authority. Well, you know what, for me, it 701 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,040 was really interesting. My mom would say, well, you did 702 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,200 this and I, you know, instead of saying, well, you did this. 703 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,000 What happened was after I, I prayed, I said I'm sorry. 704 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,280 And she was like, well, but no, really, you and I was like, I'm 705 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,720 so sorry, mom, I'm sorry. Like instead of being like what 706 00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:32,360 you did, what you did, Well, I did that because it. 707 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,760 Instantly deescalated. It completely deescalated it and 708 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,600 I felt free, felt free and we all should be free. 709 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,400 And again, I love that you said because the boundaries have like 710 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,240 yes, yes, we need all need healthy boundaries, but 711 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:52,880 sometimes I feel like boundaries have gotten used to make excuses 712 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,320 to not deal with unhealthy patterns. 713 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,440 They're just fences and you're staying enclosed. 714 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,480 And yeah, toxic things of yourself. 715 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:02,520 Yes, yes. And making excuses and stuff. 716 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,120 And again, like I've, I've learned that when you have an 717 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,480 unhealthy situation, one of the best things you can do is leave 718 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,480 the room and allow there to be a reset. 719 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,640 But that doesn't mean that you're hateful or you blame or 720 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,560 you don't own your part. And even when I was saying I was 721 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,720 sorry, there was a part of me that felt like, why am I 722 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:22,560 apologizing? She should be apologizing. 723 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,840 But the truth is for her, for whatever reason is very painful 724 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,880 and and saying I'm sorry to her wasn't admitting guilt. 725 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,960 It was releasing her from feeling like I wasn't hearing 726 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,960 her. And so again, it it is patterns 727 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,720 that that are patterns of thought, demonic oppression, 728 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,240 escalate things. They run the patterns in 729 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:50,840 people's brains. They run the patterns in 730 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,160 people's lives. But I have found so many times 731 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,600 that you can pray into a situation and it inhibits a 732 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,120 pattern. And then we learn how to renew 733 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,920 our mind, which is really a way of repatterning our mind for 734 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,760 godliness. I want to ask one more question 735 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,920 before we get away and we're talking about going back to the 736 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,160 soul ties here. I've heard this question a lot 737 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,800 is OK. I've prayed the prayer. 738 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,600 I've forgiven the person. I've physically separated 739 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,560 myself, let's say especially if it's a sexual assault tie. 740 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,440 What do I do when that temptation comes back or I I 741 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,080 have a thought of what if we were to stay together or what if 742 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,200 they're different or I have a dream that we're together? 743 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,040 What do they do when that Sultai tries to creep back in? 744 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,280 Do they stand firm? So you're saying, you're saying 745 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,320 like somebody that they had an inappropriate relationship with 746 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:46,400 and then they're trying to maybe re enter that relationship and 747 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,960 try to have it be healthy. There's they had they prayed the 748 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,920 prayer on the Sultai, but then the temptation comes back to to 749 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,920 go back to open that door again or to have a similar 750 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,640 relationship with someone else. Do they need to keep breaking 751 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,680 the Sultai over and over kind of like the do I need to keep 752 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,520 asking Jesus to come into my life welfare or OK, you get what 753 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,400 I'm saying. I've heard that of like some 754 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,920 ties. Are they broken or? 755 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,120 So I mean you break them with the individuals, but that 756 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,560 doesn't mean you can't make new ones with new individuals. 757 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,280 I mean I'm or renew ones with people. 758 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,000 I don't know if that makes any sense. 759 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,040 Like, you know, if you're have an inappropriate relationships 760 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,240 actually with somebody and pray and then they come back in your 761 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:31,360 life two years later and you have an inappropriate sexual 762 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:36,760 relation, you just like, I mean, you just be like, OK, that we I 763 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,400 need to deal with that again. So it isn't like a magic wand, 764 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,320 but it is a an opportunity for distance. 765 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:52,080 And you know that there's reasons why the Bible says flee 766 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,440 fornication. It doesn't say sit with it. 767 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,880 It doesn't say go out to dinner with it. 768 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,280 It says run in terror. So there's, there's certain 769 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,960 things in life that you can sit with and there's other things 770 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,120 you just need to run in terror. And I have found there's, 771 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:10,640 there's areas I can trust myself in. 772 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,240 There's areas I just, I have no business visiting. 773 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,200 I just need to totally stay away from that. 774 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,480 So if the thought comes back, you run you just completely. 775 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,680 Away. Yeah. 776 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:25,640 I mean, I don't we're talking very general things. 777 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,200 I just, I think we don't entertain those things. 778 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:32,120 I think too many people entertain things in their mind 779 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,560 and don't address it right away. And they give so much real 780 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,720 estate to an idea that it begins to live and it begins to set up 781 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:43,880 household. And then it becomes the thought 782 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,200 pattern. And then they're then they think 783 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,760 they're supposed to didn't inhabit that when God's like, 784 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,640 hey, it's kind of like when when a demon's cast out. 785 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,160 But what is well, actually, this is when a demon leaves, it says 786 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,080 and nothing is put in place. It comes back and brings seven 787 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,360 more. So it's not when it's cast out, 788 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,040 it's just when it leaves. So we don't know if it was like, 789 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,640 hey, if I'm in a better place downtown, let's go here. 790 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,440 I don't know what that looks like, but you always want to 791 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,320 displace. So you don't want to leave. 792 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:19,120 No, you know, an occupancy of, you know, space available sign 793 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,640 for that. You want to you want to fill 794 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,880 something? Yeah. 795 00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:27,320 So break the generational curse, break the Sultai, demand the 796 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,280 spiritually. But our power doesn't stop 797 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,680 there, is what I'm hearing you say it, It continues. 798 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,240 Wouldn't that be nice if just everything was one time? 799 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,120 But but I mean that's why we deny ourselves right? 800 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,840 Daily Daily take up our cross and follow him daily. 801 00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:48,440 It's not that we daily get saved, but but we are daily 802 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,640 being transformed and we're being daily growing into the 803 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,520 more of the likeness of Jesus Christ. 804 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,320 That's why manna is the daily thing reading the word daily. 805 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,760 These are these are things that we walk into in a greater 806 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,560 knowledge again, the the path of the righteous is as the first 807 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,640 light of dawn shining ever brighter. 808 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,960 Most people act like the day they got born again was the 809 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,360 brightest moment in their life. It's supposed to actually be 810 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,480 first gleaned and then we're supposed to walk into a greater 811 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,920 brightness. So in my opinion, greater 812 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,480 brightness has no space for shadow. 813 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,160 So we we don't go back to shadowed spaces because we're 814 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,800 walking in greater brightness. And when in greater brightness, 815 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:34,040 things that in shadowed spaces looked inviting now looks stark 816 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,120 and and dangerous. So good. 817 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,600 This is fascinating about generational patterns or curses. 818 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,360 When you look at Abraham, it's very interesting. 819 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,800 We've got Abraham telling people, hey, hey, this is just 820 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,800 my sister. This isn't my wife. 821 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:57,040 It's no, it's just my sister. And and so we've got OK, what's 822 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,280 going on here? You know, and and we know that 823 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,240 Sarah can't get pregnant. So they involve Hagar and then 824 00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:07,480 they have Ishmael and then they, you know, cast out the bond 825 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,640 woman when Sarah becomes pregnant with eyes and he sees, 826 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,280 you know, Sarah's like, hey, hey, he's mocking my baby boy, 827 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:19,200 get him out of here. So, so we see the favored wife 828 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,840 and we see the unfavored wife and we see the one son leaving. 829 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,800 And then it's so crazy. You see the same pattern now 830 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,800 with Isaac saying that his wife Rebecca isn't really his wife. 831 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,160 She's assist. I mean, like we're like, what 832 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,480 just happened here? And then he likes Esau and he 833 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,160 doesn't really like Jacob, but but you know, Rebecca likes 834 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,320 Jacob. And then what happens is there's 835 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,120 a there's a conflict, and then Jacob gets sent away. 836 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,040 And then we've got Jacob. Who does Jacob like the best? 837 00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:00,560 He likes Rachel, and then his first child with Rachel, Joseph. 838 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,880 Everybody else is jealous. He gets sent away. 839 00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:09,960 And then when he comes to bless Joseph's children, he puts his 840 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,480 hands on the older and the younger, and he crosses them and 841 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,520 Joseph says no, no, no, this ones the first born. 842 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,720 And he said no, it has to be this way because the curses 843 00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:23,080 actually came on three to four generations. 844 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,920 It was crazy. And then you see you've got the 845 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,640 craziness with David and Absalon, and then you see all 846 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,720 the fall out with, you know what, what goes on. 847 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,320 So our family's really normal is what you're. 848 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,040 Saying we've become well because of Jesus, Hallelujah, that was 849 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,520 that's it. But like, literally, if you look 850 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:48,200 at the patterns that get set in motion there, you can actually 851 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,960 see them. Yeah, I remember studying it and 852 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,960 I'm, I'm probably, I'm not doing it justice at all, but it was 853 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,840 the favored wife and the and the son. 854 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,720 It was just this crazy pattern. Favored wife, favorite son. 855 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,480 I mean, it was just this, it just kept going and going until 856 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,840 Joseph. And then after Joseph Sons, it 857 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,800 was it was OK for a while. Yeah. 858 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,920 So there's some patterns and things in our family and 859 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,000 generations that we have to be willing to confront, is what I 860 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,560 hear you say. Yeah, well, I mean, like, for 861 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:20,240 me, I had cancer. My mom had cancer, My 862 00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:22,720 grandmother had cancer. I didn't know your grandmother 863 00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:24,760 had a Yeah, my grandmother had skin cancer. 864 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,760 My mom had skin cancer. Then she had breast cancer, and 865 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,120 then I had retinoblastoma, which is eye cancer. 866 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:37,120 My grandmother had had my mom. Then she got divorced and then 867 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,720 she remarried and then she got divorced again. 868 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,080 Then she married somebody else, had two children, almost died in 869 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,280 childbirth, had a miscarriage and then got divorced. 870 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:52,720 And then my mom marries my dad has me, has three miscarriages, 871 00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:55,240 gets divorced. Well, has my brother gets 872 00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:57,560 divorced, remarried. My dad gets divorced. 873 00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,880 I mean, so I was like, we're crazy people. 874 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,640 I was like, this stops here, here. 875 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,520 John and I are not going to be married and then divorced and 876 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,640 then remarried. And, and I said, and the, the 877 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:15,400 curse of miscarriage that stops, like I'm, I'm not, I'm not 878 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,880 accepting that that's what happens to the women in our 879 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,160 family that we get pregnant and we lose babies or we get 880 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,600 pregnant. We almost die in childbirth. 881 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,360 This is not happening for us. And you know, again, everybody 882 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,840 is different. They told me, they told me when 883 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,720 I lost my eye. They said, they told my parents 884 00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:38,320 and they told me, they said if you have children, they'll be 885 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,800 100% cancer carriers because you're a fluke. 886 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,480 This eye cancer was a very fluke kind of thing. 887 00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:47,600 And they said retinoblastoma can be hereditary. 888 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:53,560 And I remember saying, yes, that was my inherited bloodline, but 889 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,000 now I have a redeemed bloodline and then my redeemed bloodline, 890 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,320 none of my sons will have retinoblastoma and none of them 891 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,640 dead. And I got all of them checked. 892 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,960 I had all of their eyes sonogrammed when they were very 893 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,200 young. But I do believe that it is by 894 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,680 faith that we appropriate certain things. 895 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,680 And you know, and I, I don't, I'm not blaming my parents. 896 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,960 I didn't know anything about praying over their kids or 897 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,320 anything like that. But things have to be taken by 898 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:23,360 faith because the enemy does not want to let go of patterns and 899 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,680 that he's had in families for a really long time. 900 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,800 Well, that's so powerful. I mean, we addressed comments 901 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,680 that came from episode 2, the spiritual warfare episode. 902 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,920 But if you're seeing this and haven't watched it yet, I'd 903 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,920 encourage you to go there. 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