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I had an eating disorder, 
Christian, from the time I was 

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15 until the time I was 22 and I
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And I heard your weight is an 
idol to you, Lisa. 

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So I was like, all right, God, I
repent of idolatry. 

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And he said, now stop dieting 
and I want you to fast. 

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And I was like, why wait? 
You just told me not to diet and

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now you're telling me to fast. 
And right away I heard the Holy 

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Spirit say in Psalm 6910, David 
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I chastened my soul with fasting
and so many times I've watched a

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fast in my life. 
Hey, I want to thank you for 

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watching the Lisa Vivira Podcast
by actually sharing a gift with 

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you. 
It is a free ebook called Fast 

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forward. 
See, I don't know if you 

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understand the power of a fast. 
Most people when they hear the 

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story of Jonah, they think about
a whale. 

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But there is a moment that I 
want to highlight in that story.

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God had sent the prophet to 
decry against the city of 

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Nineveh. 
It was filled with wickedness 

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and he prophesied pending 
judgement. 

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But listen to this. 
The people of Nineveh, this is 

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crazy. 
Believe God and proclaim the 

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fast put on sackcloth from the 
greatest to even the least of 

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them. 
And God said, I've heard their 

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cry, I've seen them humble 
themselves, and he deferred the 

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judgement. 
I believe our nation is on the 

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threshold and I am inviting you 
to declare a fast. 

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We're coming out of the 
holidays, or maybe you're just 

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seeing this right now and you 
know that you have a hunger for 

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something more. 
I believe the fast creates a 

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greater hunger for the things of
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And so I'm excited for you to 
dive into this conversation 

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around fasting. 
Welcome to the least of your 

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podcast. 
And I am really excited about 

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today's message. 
This has been something that has

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been very transformative in my 
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And that is the difference 
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I believe that God has fasting 
as one of our spiritual 

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disciplines. 
And so many people don't know 

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how to start a fast, don't know 
how to maintain a fast. 

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They have questions about it. 
But I believe that fasting is a 

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time of breakthrough, not that 
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changes us. 
And so I'm super excited. 

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I've got my daughter, Law 
Christian joining me today and 

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we're going to be taking in some
of the questions you guys ask 

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us, answering them and 
discussing fasting. 

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Yes, thank you so much for 
sharing. 

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You have a whole book on this 
and there's this approach that 

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we do have questions on because 
people want to know the 

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difference in diet and fasting. 
But I think before we even go 

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there, can you share what is 
fasting? 

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Why do people do it? 
Does God call to do it? 

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Give us give us a runway for 
this topic. 

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How about I tell you my personal
entry into the world of fasting?

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So I had an eating disorder, 
Christian, from the time I was 

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15 until the time I was 22, and 
I was all about dieting. 

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I had come in from school one 
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fat. 
He told me I needed to take care

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of it. 
I restricted my food intake, ran

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outside through the snow drifts 
in Indiana, and I watched my dad

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approve of me when I lost weight
and I began to associate. 

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Thin means you're worthy of 
love. 

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Thin means your discipline. 
Thin means you're in control. 

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And so I carried that on into 
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a eating disorder and then I 
became a Christian. 

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And now Christians, it's 
interesting, they don't drink, 

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which I had excessive drinking, 
excessive dieting, diuretics, 

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laxatives, all that mess. 
But they eat at everything. 

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And so now I took my excessive 
personality and I put it on into

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my Christian world and it 
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And so I went from being too 
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And it wasn't healthy weight. 
It was, it was overweight. 

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And I remember just being angry 
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that I'd somehow given him my 
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And even though it wasn't him, 
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And the turning point was when I
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gown. 
And I had gone to try a slip on,

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try my wedding gown. 
And they're like, Are you sure 

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this is yours? 
And I'm like, yes, this is mine.

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And they're like, we cannot even
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We can't even begin to close 
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And I came home mad at God, mad 
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I just could see my dad's mind 
that my dad was like, he was 

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already furious about what he 
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He was. 
And I thought. 

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You have to alter it. 
Well, there was no altering it. 

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We're like 2 weeks away from my 
wedding and and maybe 4, I don't

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know. 
It was very close. 

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And I, I just started crying and
I was just like, God, you know, 

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I give you my life and I get fat
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And I heard your weight is an 
idol to you, Lisa. 

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And I was like, idol golden 
calf. 

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I mean, I'm a brand new baby 
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I've been saved for about a 
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And he said it's what you draw 
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give your strength to. 
And he said, if you'll repent of

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this idolatry, I'll heal you. 
And I'll tell you should weigh, 

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not shape, not glamour, not 
vogue. 

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And I was like, what? 
God wants to be involved in my 

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life. 
And so I was like, all right, 

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all right, God, I, I'm messing 
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I'm really destructive. 
And it was the pattern is my 

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mom's life, my grandmother's 
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So I was like, all right, God, I
repent of idolatry. 

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And he said, now stop dieting. 
And I want you to fast. 

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And I was like, why wait? 
You just told me not to diet, 

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and now you're telling me to 
fast. 

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And right away I heard the Holy 
Spirit say a diet changes the 

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way you look, but a fast changes
the way you see. 

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And Lisa, I need you to change 
the way you see everything. 

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So Christian, I opened up my 
Bible and I I looked in the back

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and I found all the scriptures 
on fasting and I just drank 

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water and juice for like 3 days.
And instead of going to the 

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refrigerator, I went to worship.
Instead of going to the 

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refrigerator, I went for a walk.
And I just, every time I would 

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get worried to be like, you're 
not, you're probably, you know, 

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you need to eat your this, you 
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And then God had to teach me how
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apparently this is crazy, but 
it's true. 

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Apparently I have this gene that
doesn't tell you when you're 

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done eating. 
Tell them what it's called. 

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It's. 
Hilarious the death pipe buffet 

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you just I can't go on cruises. 
I can't no, they say you'll just

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keep eating and so I had to be 
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And so you know, I found so many
people they think a fast is just

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a quick diet, but a fast is not 
a quick diet. 

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A diet is a physical change and 
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A fast is a spiritual 1. 
And so I, I love that David said

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in Psalm 6910, I chastened my 
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And I think sometimes we don't 
understand that our soul gets a 

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little preeminent in our lives 
and we need to actually put a 

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little lock down and say, all 
right, enough. 

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I'm, I've been, you know, I want
to turn to some of the questions

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that we have now because I know 
I saw a couple of them. 

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And these are things I always 
get asked. 

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You know when David said Chasen,

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we think is that punish? 
And actually the word Chasen 

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means to discipline, purify, 
refine, clarify. 

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So get back clarity and to 
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And so many times I've watched a
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the reprogram or the clarity or 
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OK, I have to ask this coming 
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sure you're not alone. 
Maybe women listening to this, 

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coming from your background, I'm
an eating disorder. 

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That's a different type of 
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So how did you right? 
That's punishment, yes, not 

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purifying. 
How did you learn to reshape 

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your mind and even your body's 
response to because they're both

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restrictive, right? 
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But for different purposes. 
How did you reshape your mind 

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and heart to even welcome the 
benefit of fasting without 

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keeping that punishment 
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Yeah. 
So, you know, I saw food as 

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something that hurt me, 
something that was in like, OK, 

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I'll either take it away and 
it's a punishment or I, I can, I

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can eat everything in the 
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I couldn't be normal. 
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having a fast, you know, was 
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reframe that food was something 
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something to celebrate. 
But I didn't live to eat. 

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I ate to live. 
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they're eating their emotions. 
I watched my mom do that. 

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I watched my grandmother do 
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And I had to say, all right, 
God, I have had this in the 

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wrong place. 
Fasting was a way for getting it

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into the right place. 
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know, they come out of they come
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Maybe they come out of the 
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really need to hear from God and
they think the fast is like a 

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hunger strike. 
They're like, all right, God, I 

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need to hear from you. 
I'm going to fast and you're 

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going to talk. 
But really a fast is more about 

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our receptivity than God 
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And, and I love how our nation, 
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situation right now where our 
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I really believe that, you know,
I love how Esther hidden away it

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in a in a Kingdom born for such 
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And I have to believe that each 
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It's just not a nice little 
phrase for Esther, but it is 

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something that is a mandate for 
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If you're alive right now, 
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like me or whether you're a 
young girl, you are alive at 

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such a time for this. 
And God has brought you into to 

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the Kingdom for such time as 
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And so for me, I wanted to know 
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What is the purpose behind that?
And for Esther, hers was a 

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position of influence and rescue
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And when Mordecai, who was her 
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listen, you know you're not 
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You think you're in the palace, 
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escape. 
She immediately goes, all right,

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this is bigger than me. 
You ask the Jews and Sousas to 

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fast. 
I'm going to ask my handmaidens 

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to fast. 
And if I die, I die. 

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But she got to the place where 
she's like, all right, I'm going

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to fast. 
And I'm going to, while I'm 

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fasting, prepare a banquet for 
the king, which is interesting. 

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Like I'm always like if I'm 
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What I don't like in my 
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principle of the fast, that the 
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but indulging the king. 
And so when I fast, I'm actually

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setting aside time for my king. 
I'm preparing A banquet. 

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I'm saying, God, I'm giving this
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I want you more than my daily 
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I want you more than than 
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myself with. 
So a fast is really about 

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reframing who God is to us and 
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And then, you know, of course we
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She makes 1 banquet and then 
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So and then she makes another 
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for the head of her enemies and 
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And I feel like right now we 
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that when we fast, we actually 
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petition. 
That leads into one of the 

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to even just make that 
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I think it can be like, Hey, 
I've come through a season where

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maybe I'm a little over 
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think, you know, that can even 
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think some people say, well, I, 
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a baby. 
I can't fast. 

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breastfeeding, let me tell you. 
That would be hard, easy. 

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That would be hard. 
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you can fast. 
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What is holding you back? 

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Fast where you're going to those
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So entertainment, Oh my gosh, 
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those things that everybody can 
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And if they're like, I can't, I,
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can't fast because of, you know,
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You can always fast something 
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presence of God. 
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that are in your life. 
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I'm going to separate myself 
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And I actually like to start a 
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right, God, I'm I'm, I'm going 
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I'm going to honor Jesus's 
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in my life. 
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I'm going to fast. 
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anything wrong with just saying,
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I'm going to we're going to fast
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to fast at the beginning of the 
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or a juice fast or whatever. 
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I think we look for more excuses
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in our culture. 
Going off of those times of I, I

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just want to present this fast. 
Where do we see in the Bible of 

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when people fasted or the 
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I mean, you mentioned Daniel. 
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love. 
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He said, I proclaimed a fast so 
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again like David did, humble 
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him for a safe journey for us 
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our possessions. 
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that so many people think, well,
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No, I think we're all wanting to
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where we could be and got it. 
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fasting for myself. 
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children and our possessions. 
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God, I'm going to I'm going to 
I'm going to declare a fast 

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because I want to humble myself 
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direction, protection, 
provision. 

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He wanted got to take him from 
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I'm hearing so much about job. 
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concerned about AI causing them 
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All these different things, 
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coming out of school feel like 
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them or people are in a season 
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to get married. 
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first time I fast, I was single 
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and I knew that God was taking 
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everything was about me to 
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house with my husband. 
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fast. 
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have an example of how to do 
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I knew certain things I didn't 
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a family begin with God as the 
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So. 
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So I was like, God, I'm fasting.
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journal during that time because
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hunger strike, like I said, and 
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know, like write things in our 
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We want to listen and then 
record what God might whisper to

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us. 
And that might just be a passage

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of Scripture he tells you to go 
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It might just be, you know, 
Lisa, I'm so proud of you, 

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Christian. 
I'm so proud you set it aside 

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this time. 
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fasting is about retuning the 
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It's like my husband always says
that God is always speaking. 

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It's like a radio broadcast, but
you have to get on the right 

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channel. 
And fasting actually helps us 

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get on the right channel. 
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I love that you encourage us and
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do this simply for our benefit. 
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actual benefits to fasting. 
Can you share some of those and 

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yes, maybe even how to how do 
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posture of making sure you're 
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reasons? 
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First of all, again, going back 
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it's about separation. 
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food, it's about consecration. 
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It's about being loosed from 
every weight and sin and a guilt

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consciousness and a shame 
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So, you know, we go into a fast 
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to lose weight, that's what 
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But if you go into the fast and 
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And so I love Isaiah 58 and I'm 
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it says, is this the kind of 
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Only a day for a man to humble 
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Is it only for bowing 1's head 
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sackcloth and ashes? 
Is that what you call a fast? 

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A day acceptable to the Lord? 
I mean, man, these people are 

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going way further than we do 
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It's like what I for one day 
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Well, listen, I believe that the
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fast and Christian, here's 
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I remember being in a season 
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I was a mother and I was, you 
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God, I'm not hungry for your 
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I'm just surviving right now. 
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like America filled with 
abundance, if you want to 

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develop a hunger for me, you're 
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these other things because maybe
I wasn't doing anything bad, but

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I was putting in things that 
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avoiding some other things. 
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I'd had two children and I just,
I knew that God was calling me 

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deeper and I was scared. 
So I was I was doing things that

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kept me busy, but not sacred, 
not focused. 

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And and he was like, come on, 
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religious motions, sackcloth, 
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that's not what I'm really 
looking for. 

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They lost contact of the heart 
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And then he goes, he asks the 
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of fast I've chosen to lose the 
chains of injustice, to untie 

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the cords of the yoke, to set 
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every yoke. 
Is it not to share your food 

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with the hungry and to provide 
the poor wander with shelter 

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when you see the naked, to 
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from your own flesh and blood. 
So God is actually saying, well,

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you're not busy with just 
yourself. 

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It frees you to have an 
awareness of others. 

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Also I believe when he's talking
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It broke the yoke of an eating 
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It breaks the yoke of 
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It breaks the yoke of self 
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consciousness. 
I believe almost everybody could

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easily go on a social media fast
and it would be really healthy, 

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healthy and helpful for them. 
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whole thing and said, he says, 
if you do these things, if you 

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honor the kind of fast I honor, 
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your light will break forth like
the dawn, and your healing will 

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quickly appear. 
Then your righteousness will go 

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before you, and the glory of the
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Then you will call and the Lord 
will answer. 

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You will cry for help and he 
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Healing, proximity, 

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Righteousness, we've even seen 
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that, that line, that very fine 
line of, you know, why am I 

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doing this? 
But a rise in the health 

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industry of fasting for health 
benefits. 

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And, you know, sidebar, we had 
an amazing episode with both 

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Jordan Rubin and Dr. Axe around 
the health benefits. 

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But you know, is there a 
spiritual closeness that that 

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even comes from that of, you 
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healing, where's the little? 
Right. 

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Well, I mean, here's the thing, 
when your body isn't digesting 

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food, it has an opportunity to 
heal. 

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But again, we, we know that God 
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fasting. 
We know that God. 

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So what we're doing is we're 
positioning ourselves to receive

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a healing from him. 
So we already talked about the 

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first one disciplining the chest
and our soul, then the next one 

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changing our appetites. 
You know when you fast sugar, 

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you come off if you're fast. 
Yeah. 

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And you're like, oh, sugar 
doesn't taste quite as good as 

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it did beforehand. 
And you know when you when you 

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actually have a fast, what's 
happening is you're setting 

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yourself apart for certain 
things that just said, wait, I'm

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looking at Acts 13. 
Two. 

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It says set apart for me. 
Barnes and Saul for the work. 

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I have called them too. 
So when we actually have a 

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setting apart, then the things 
that we used to enjoy previous 

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fast we don't enjoy so much. 
So social media, whether it's 

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entertainment, whether it's 
unhealthy food, again, the food,

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the food is the emphasis. 
That's your reward and that's 

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not a bad thing. 
But if you're like God, my body 

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is the temple of the Holy 
Spirit. 

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This body is an entrustment. 
I am supposed to worship you 

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with my God presented a living 
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So we don't have the right to 
mistreat our body when it is 

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something that God gave the 
death of his son to purchase 

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from me to be a good stir with. 
And then fasting increases 

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capacity. 
I love that. 

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You know, Esther again had 
capacity by fasting. 

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I've also got fasting brings 
answers to prayers when that 

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whole idea of we call, he 
answers no, we know Jeremiah 

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says even before we call, he's 
already answering and he wants 

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to show his great and money 
things we know not of. 

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So I have to believe that when 
we call, we heard the answer. 

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Almost like a Q-tip, a 
spiritual. 

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Q-tip opens up our ears. 
Able to. 

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Hear and then the the healing 
one. 

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Fasting leads to quick healing. 
Then your light will break forth

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like the dawn and your healing 
will quickly appear. 

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I also believe we, we know now, 
it's not like your body's over 

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here and your brains over here 
and your spirits over here and 

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your souls over here. 
When you have bitterness and 

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unforgiveness and things like 
that, it affects your body. 

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And so when you're fast, God 
deals with very root issues that

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when you can go to the root of 
something, then the healing can 

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spring forth because you've 
you've uprooted that thing that 

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has been defiling to you because
this is a bitter root defiling 

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many. 
And right now we have a we have 

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quite a bit of bitterness and 
definement in the body of 

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Christ. 
Fasting opens doors to God's 

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protection is provision. 
Fasting looses the chains of 

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injustice. 
I know there's a lot of people 

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that would probably see more 
results if they'd go off of 

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social media decrying injustice 
and went into a prayer closet, a

446
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,080
fasting and prayer for a 
returning of injustice. 

447
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,920
He frees the oppressed, breaks 
every yoke. 

448
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,480
And when we take our eyes off 
our self and look around at 

449
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,120
others, you know, one of my 
favorite quotes is when you set 

450
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:13,160
people in motion, they heal 
themselves. 

451
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:19,040
And so we want to set, we need 
to set ourselves in motion so 

452
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,360
that healing happens and not 
just sit and study ourselves, 

453
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,160
but get up out of the dust of 
self reflection and, and look 

454
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,440
out and see what's going on be 
get into motion to actually 

455
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,120
reach out to other people and 
just look at us. 

456
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:36,280
And then fasting motivates us to
provide food for the hungry. 

457
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,040
I mean, there's when you're not,
you're not using it, you can 

458
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,680
give it to somebody else. 
And I do think there's a 

459
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,600
hoarding spirit that fasting 
deals with. 

460
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,200
Well, I love that you're 
connecting the, you know, the 

461
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,480
spiritual, the physical, the 
emotional and you know, even we 

462
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,000
see Jesus, he took times of 
fasting and he took time to 

463
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,080
break bread with strangers and 
friends alike. 

464
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,280
So that that heart posture 
you're saying is really like, 

465
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,600
how is that driving us? 
Why are we eating? 

466
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,560
How are we eating? 
How are we commuting? 

467
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,080
I do think there's this factor 
of we're talking about the 

468
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,520
benefits. 
There are some people that might

469
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,760
say, Lisa, I've tried fasting. 
I feel like I'm no good at it or

470
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,880
like you, I've never seen some 
of these examples modeled. 

471
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,000
I'm a new Christian. 
I love that you and Addison on 

472
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,280
the last episode talked about 
the guilt with prayer and even 

473
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,400
we want to enter prayer with 
grace, not guilt. 

474
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,560
So how do we enter fasting with 
grace, not guilt? 

475
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,040
Because we've had some questions
come in of I feel guilty. 

476
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,120
I can't even complete a 24 hour 
fast, whether that's food or 

477
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:34,560
social media. 
Where would you encourage those 

478
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,680
people to start? 
I think first of all, if, if I 

479
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,440
was in a position where I where 
I felt like, Oh my gosh, I can't

480
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,240
even turn off my phone social 
media wise for 24 hours, I would

481
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,560
have to answer the question, 
why? 

482
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,880
Why? 
But what is it that? 

483
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,960
What is the root of that? 
Because it sounds like they're 

484
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,920
trying to do the thing without 
dealing with the thing. 

485
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,320
They're trying to do the fast 
without dealing with the root 

486
00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:01,360
of. 
Why is that so necessary for 

487
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:03,640
them to feel like they have to 
be on social media? 

488
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,200
You know, they can't step away. 
And I'm not saying that to guilt

489
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,800
them. 
I'm saying I think a fast is an 

490
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,480
opportunity to answer a bigger 
question about do they feel left

491
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,480
out? 
Are they feeling insecure? 

492
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,800
Are they, you know, are they 
trapped in comparison? 

493
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,640
You know, do they feel lonely? 
What is going on? 

494
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,760
Is, is social media idle to 
them? 

495
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,040
Do they need to have positive 
affirmation from outside 

496
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,640
sources? 
And if they don't get that, 

497
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,240
they're like, they feel like 
they're going to be left behind 

498
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,840
or lost. 
They need to answer those 

499
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,040
questions. 
And again, I think that if you 

500
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,120
say, all right, God, I'm going 
to start small and believe big. 

501
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,880
Well, how to work with you on 
that? 

502
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,360
You know, I did a three day fast
was my very first fast was three

503
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:46,200
days. 
But he, he asked me to do that. 

504
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,560
And I know this is going to 
sound really silly, but I 

505
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:54,080
literally this was back in 
19808282. 

506
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,960
I walked into the grocery store 
and I was like, Holy Spirit, I 

507
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,920
don't know what to do. 
I don't know how to fast. 

508
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,800
And I walked up and down the 
aisles and I got distilled water

509
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,800
and unfiltered apple juice. 
And I found out later that those

510
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,120
are two really great things to 
fast with because they're non 

511
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:15,320
acidic and it was healthy. 
I'm not giving medical advice, 

512
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:20,040
but that's what I did. 
It was like an apple Berry and I

513
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,400
drank water and I mixed it with 
juice for three days and it got 

514
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,840
rid of the cravings. 
But that didn't mean that there 

515
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,920
weren't times where I thought, 
oh, I don't know, it's 24 hours 

516
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,560
and I, I don't know if this is 
working and I don't know, I 

517
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,320
think I need to eat. 
What if my muscles, I mean, all 

518
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,560
those things fight your brain, 
but you just that's why I would 

519
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,800
go for a walk. 
That's why I would worship. 

520
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,960
That's why I would read my 
Bible. 

521
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,360
I would do something that would 
move me outside of it. 

522
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,160
And then again, you know, if 
you're fasting and God is your 

523
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,160
focus, ask him. 
He might say, I just want you to

524
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,040
fast dinner, or he might say, 
you know, whatever. 

525
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,680
And then just do it. 
But one of the things that we 

526
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,200
all need to be clear about is 
we, we can enter a fast, but we 

527
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,880
can't. 
We don't want to make vows that 

528
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,840
we break. 
We don't want to say I'm going 

529
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,160
to do 2 days and then break it 
at one. 

530
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,880
Just just start. 
If you feel like God is saying 

531
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,240
it, just start and just say I, 
I, I think it's good to set 

532
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,760
something, but not vow, if that 
makes any sense. 

533
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,240
Like I'm going to be like, OK, 
you know, barring none of my 

534
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,560
children get sick, barring that,
I don't, you know, I'm going to 

535
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,080
fast for the next three days. 
And what I'm going to do is it's

536
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,360
going to look like I'm fasting 
lunch for the next three days, 

537
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,440
or I'm fasting everything or, 
and only drinking water, or I'm 

538
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,680
only doing herbal, you know, 
whatever that is. 

539
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,720
But you can do it. 
But you need God's grace even to

540
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,440
go on to fast. 
So just ask him to partner with 

541
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,560
you. 
And I think that you can start 

542
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,800
small. 
I think you can say I'm going to

543
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,080
just not have dinner tonight and
I'm not eating again till I get 

544
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,520
up in the morning. 
I just think people, they, they 

545
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,320
start really big and then 
they're disappointed with 

546
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,640
themselves. 
And this isn't about, this isn't

547
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,720
about you. 
This is about him, right? 

548
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:15,840
What is the verse around Jesus 
once obedience over sacrifice 

549
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,320
mean and you know, as you're 
saying, not make vows, but make 

550
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,080
these gifts. 
And even if God's calling you to

551
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,520
fast, like how does that work 
into our discipline and our 

552
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,120
diligence when it comes to 
fasting, whether it's food or 

553
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,880
social media? 
Because as a as a young mom, I 

554
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,560
hear some things and I think 
it's easy. 

555
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,560
Like the, there's the flesh and 
the spiritual side of me is OK, 

556
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,400
I have two children probably 
cannot go that long on low 

557
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,720
energy. 
But then there's the other side 

558
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,920
of, you know, the can you not 
tarry with me? 

559
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,920
Like how much limits do you 
think we're giving ourselves out

560
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,240
of ease versus grace? 
Yeah, I mean, first of all, I 

561
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,760
mean, going back to motive, this
is not something that you're 

562
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,000
doing to make God do something. 
This is so it's like God knows 

563
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,640
if you're breastfeeding a baby, 
he's not going to want your baby

564
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,400
to starve. 
He's not going to be like, well,

565
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,080
I, I want you to stop 
breastfeeding your baby or I 

566
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,080
want you not have enough milk. 
So I think that you can, we can 

567
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,720
use common sense and wisdom and 
say, in this case, what do I do?

568
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,520
What do I do? 
And, and I believe he'll speak 

569
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,080
to you. 
But again, if, if it's about a 

570
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,880
guilt offering, God's like, no, 
I, I'm not, you know, Jesus was 

571
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,960
your guilt offering. 
Let's not, let's not do that all

572
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,480
over again. 
This is not about a guilt 

573
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,560
offering, but again, it's about 
a sensitivity to the spirit. 

574
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,000
So for me, fasting means I'm 
going to be uncomfortable 

575
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,080
because I'm used to being 
distracted. 

576
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,320
It it means I'm putting my phone
down. 

577
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,560
I mean, it'd be very stupid to 
not eat and then have your phone

578
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,160
in your hand. 
That's just that. 

579
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,120
That's not a fast. 
That's just you getting hungry. 

580
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,360
So we want to be people that 
when you actually are fasting, 

581
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,040
you've created capacity and room
for you to hear from God. 

582
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,320
You notice I would have worship 
music ready. 

583
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,840
I would make sure I've set a 
part time where I can rest 

584
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,280
during a fast. 
You should actually rest. 

585
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,520
I love how Addison talked about 
when you first wake up. 

586
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,600
I even find God whispers to me a
lot when I'm falling asleep. 

587
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Keep a journal, have the time. 
It's, it's hard for young moms 

588
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,640
to do that, but you know what 
they they don't have to be on 

589
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,840
social media. 
There's there's absolutely no 

590
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,280
reason why breastfeeding mothers
or pregnant women need to be on 

591
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,200
social media for a day or two 
days or whatever it is they they

592
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,480
can do that. 
So I don't, I know there's other

593
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,640
people that would disagree with 
me. 

594
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,240
They say a fast is always about 
food. 

595
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,680
I don't believe that. 
I believe it's about anything 

596
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,760
that is an obstacle between you 
and God. 

597
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,400
That was one question a lot of 
people had. 

598
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,480
So thank you for for answering 
that. 

599
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,560
I have one more practical and 
then one a little bit more 

600
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,640
hopefully ending encouraging and
inspiring for the people 

601
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,880
listening for the practical 
sense. 

602
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,280
You know, I love that the Holy 
Spirit told you water distilled 

603
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,240
apple juice like that is really 
practical, but LED in the 

604
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,000
spiritual way. 
Do you have any practical advice

605
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,120
for people coming off a fast of 
how to not just get back in the 

606
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,880
throes of things or even if you 
are going in a time without 

607
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,000
food, how to help your body? 
He's back into food. 

608
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,000
Well, I know that nowadays 
there's so much information 

609
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,880
online, healthy ways to come off
the fast. 

610
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,920
You do not want to go out and 
get a hamburger. 

611
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,240
You do not want to go out and 
get a piece of pizza. 

612
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,960
I mean, you can, but you're 
going to have a rough re entry 

613
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,360
process. 
And so I know there's ways to 

614
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,480
tell you how to like come back 
in on fruit or different things 

615
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,600
that are much easier on the 
digestive system. 

616
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,240
So I don't want to give that 
advice, but I, I would really 

617
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,640
encourage you if you're doing a 
food fast to do that. 

618
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,080
And then, hey, if you're doing a
social media or entertainment 

619
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,600
fast, why not temper that too? 
Why not say I've been full off 

620
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,440
of social media? 
I'm going to only check social 

621
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,560
media once a day or I'm going to
check it twice a day and and you

622
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,360
can bring it back because when 
you've when you've done a fast, 

623
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,760
you've increased your capacity 
for God and decreased an 

624
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,840
appetite for constant 
affirmation from complete 

625
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,080
strangers. 
So you want to entertainment. 

626
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,360
I'm not going to watch something
every single night. 

627
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,320
I'm going to read. 
I'm going to do something that 

628
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,880
is beneficial. 
I'm going to go outside and go 

629
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,679
for a walk. 
I'm going to work in my yard. 

630
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:14,560
I'm going to do something that 
takes me outside of my normal 

631
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,520
pattern because I've done a 
reset on my, you know, what was 

632
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,600
holding me back? 
And again, I think that those 

633
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,199
are very practical ways. 
You don't want to just go into a

634
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,400
fast one way fast for three 
days, come out of the fast and 

635
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,840
go right back into the same 
place. 

636
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,400
You should be able to have done 
some resets and hopefully the 

637
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,080
Holy Spirit has talked to you. 
And whenever God says I want you

638
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:43,840
to spend less time on social 
media, it's not because he's 

639
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,000
trying to punish you. 
It's because he's saying I want 

640
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,840
more time speaking to you. 
I want more time with you. 

641
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,080
I want you to have more time 
with your family, with your 

642
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,000
husband, with constructive 
things, more things outside. 

643
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,400
This is not healthy or helpful. 
So he's, he's never being 

644
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,360
punitive. 
He's redirecting you so that you

645
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,760
can have a healthier path 
forward. 

646
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,520
OK, I did lie to you. 
I have two more questions. 

647
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,560
One just came up. 
We're in Western society where I

648
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,120
feel like some people may 
actually need to have a fast 

649
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,040
within a working capacity. 
I think we've understood now 

650
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,760
like Sabbaths and, you know, the
beautiful necessity of a Sabbath

651
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,600
even and time away or your 
Sunday routine extended time 

652
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,480
away. 
What does that look like without

653
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,760
dodging obligations but also not
making your work, your strength,

654
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,280
or your God? 
So like if someone's at work 

655
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,640
9:00 to 5:00. 
Sure, like maybe they've done a 

656
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,120
nine to five, five days a week 
for years and they're just 

657
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,920
either saying, hey, I'm, I'm 
kind of burnt out or I 

658
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,000
prioritize my work. 
I check my emails before I spend

659
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,040
time with God. 
My work's just really demanding 

660
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,760
and I have this tension with my 
family dynamic. 

661
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,080
Like how can a family approach 
that with, you know, honoring 

662
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,640
their workplace and their 
families need for income? 

663
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,080
But also, if God's saying, hey, 
this really has become an idol 

664
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,160
in your source of strength, that
I need that to be me. 

665
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,160
Yeah, I mean, I do think you 
could do it after work or 

666
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,000
lunchtime or before work. 
And I again, you have the 

667
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,520
capacity to not check your 
emails until a certain windows. 

668
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,760
You could, you could you could 
have specific windows where you 

669
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,600
do things. 
I mean, I don't think people I 

670
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,120
always fast on the weekend 
though. 

671
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,360
I mean because if it's if I've 
got to be responsible during the

672
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,480
week to be a provider for my 
family, then during the weekend 

673
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:39,680
I have the chance to do that. 
And again, just make different 

674
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,160
choices after work, work and 
then talk, talk about the things

675
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,960
of God with your family. 
Don't talk about just things 

676
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,520
that you would normally talk 
about, but just say, guys, I 

677
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,800
really, I really feel like I 
want a greater hunger for God. 

678
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,400
And I realize I've gotten really
complacent. 

679
00:36:54,760 --> 00:37:00,120
I realized that I just go to 
church on Sunday and I listen 

680
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,240
and I do nothing during the 
week. 

681
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,440
And I'm, I'm sad about that and 
I want more. 

682
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,360
And so I'm going to be reading 
through, you know, these 

683
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,840
passages. 
Do you want to do that with me? 

684
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,800
Or I'm going to watch instead of
watching a show, I'm going to 

685
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,880
watch, you know, something 
that's a scriptural teaching 

686
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:24,920
where I'm going to feed my soul 
instead of distract my soul. 

687
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,800
And I think there's just ways 
around it. 

688
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,560
I, I mean, I know, I know that, 
you know, work shouldn't be the 

689
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,920
problem. 
I do find that there's there's a

690
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,480
shocking amount of time that 
people spend on their phone at 

691
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,600
the end of the day that have 
absolutely nothing to do with 

692
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,600
work. 
And then I would also love to 

693
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,600
hear for those listening that 
you know, are might make getting

694
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,520
their feet wet for the first 
time with fasting. 

695
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,440
Do you have any stories of when 
you experience true breakthrough

696
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,480
or clarity? 
You know, I love that you shared

697
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,840
about your wedding and then like
the healing and. 

698
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,960
Yeah, I did get thin enough to 
wear my dress. 

699
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:00,760
I didn't ever. 
See that? 

700
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,440
So we're here dressed on the 
aisle, but is there times as a 

701
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,480
mother or a wife or a leader 
that you know you, you 

702
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,800
interceded even not just for 
your own behalf, but for 

703
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,240
something greater that can leave
us with this inspiration of the 

704
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,760
beauty and. 
Benefit It was really important 

705
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,480
for me to know the voice of God 
and I I was really tired of 

706
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,880
hearing everybody else say that 
Oh, God said this to me and I 

707
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,880
was like, what was he talking to
everybody? 

708
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,680
I mean, I was reading scriptures
and I would be touched during 

709
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,680
songs, but I was like, what? 
I don't, I'm not, I'm not 

710
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,600
hearing the way it seems like 
all these other people are 

711
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,800
hearing now. 
I will say when I first became a

712
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,840
Christian, I do feel like God 
whispered into my heart a lot. 

713
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,200
And then it felt like I went 
through kind of a season of 

714
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,400
famine and, you know, I was busy
and I knew he loved me and I 

715
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,600
went to church and I served in 
the local church, but I knew 

716
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,360
that there was something 
missing. 

717
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:56,040
And so I, I had to say, I'm 
going to set aside some things 

718
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,720
and, and it was in my journal 
where I wrote things out and I 

719
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:02,360
said, like, all right, God, I, I
want to know you. 

720
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,000
I want to know your will from my
life. 

721
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,440
I, I feel like I hear about you,
but I don't hear from you. 

722
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,160
And so tell me. 
And that's when he said, you're 

723
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,600
going to need to fast. 
No, this wasn't for my wedding 

724
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,000
dress. 
This was to hear again. 

725
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,200
And he was like, put away. 
The, the only distraction we had

726
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,080
back then was magazines. 
Put away the magazines, limit 

727
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,360
your phone conversations, let 
things go to the answering 

728
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,960
machine or you guys don't even 
have answering machines, but 

729
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,320
limit your intake, Lisa so that 
I can be the focus. 

730
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,560
And I had young kids, but you 
know you can get your kids to 

731
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,320
bed early and you can play 
worship music and you can read 

732
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,440
the word I To be honest with 
you, I very, very infrequently 

733
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,480
turned on television. 
I very rarely watched it when my

734
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,280
kids were little. 
We might do like some children's

735
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,040
programming in the morning and 
that would be about it. 

736
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,520
But that would be times where I 
would seize those moments. 

737
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,720
And I kept a journal where I 
would write in it and say, God, 

738
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:05,480
you can be anything but but 
silent. 

739
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,680
I need to hear from you. 
And, and I am, I'm sorry. 

740
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,720
I've filled myself with other 
things. 

741
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,560
Because that was easier and that
was immediate. 

742
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:21,480
And, and I've always found that 
when I really set my heart, he 

743
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,240
whispers to me and then the word
becomes alive when I'm reading 

744
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:27,520
and all sudden it'll quicken 
something in my spirit. 

745
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,160
And I can write that down. 
And it feels like as soon as I'm

746
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,360
writing things down, it's just 
alive. 

747
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,960
But again, it takes 
intentionality and fasting in 

748
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,280
this time period of overt 
distraction. 

749
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,240
And, and to be honest with you, 
everybody's given over to, to 

750
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:46,560
their appetites. 
I think it had to has to begin 

751
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,760
with repentance. 
You know, God forgive me for 

752
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,920
being mastered by my appetites 
and distraction. 

753
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,320
I want you to be the Lord of 
every area of my life. 

754
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,560
And that that's how it begins. 
And like I said, it can start 

755
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,160
small and they can believe big. 
And I don't want people to set 

756
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,680
up to be like, oh, I'm going to 
do a 40 day fast. 

757
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,320
And then they're like, Oh my 
gosh, I'll ask you 45 minutes. 

758
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Right? 
Exactly. 

759
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:14,200
And, you know, I know there's 
people that are way more godly 

760
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,800
than me that do those kind of 
things, but I don't think 

761
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,200
anybody starts there. 
Yeah. 

762
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,040
Well, you created resources, you
have a book and other things 

763
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,000
around this. 
So where would you point people 

764
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,680
if they want some more help as 
they begin this or more 

765
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,280
direction getting started? 
Yeah, well, I mean, I first of 

766
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,960
all, I I want you to know that 
fasting is a spiritual 

767
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,160
discipline. 
It is not a punishment. 

768
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,360
It is a time to draw closer to 
God. 

769
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:43,240
It is not. 
It is about you separating. 

770
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:46,520
It is about you pursuing him. 
It is not about him being 

771
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,840
disappointed with you, but it is
about you humbling yourself. 

772
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,600
All spiritual warfare begins 
with humility. 

773
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,640
So if you find yourself in a 
battle, you're saying I don't, I

774
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:56,240
don't. 
Maybe. 

775
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,320
Yeah. 
I think a fast can actually set 

776
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,840
you up with a breakthrough where
you can actually see what's 

777
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,760
going on instead of just being 
distracted. 

778
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,920
So again, I keep talking about 
distraction. 

779
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,360
I keep talking about appetite, I
keep talking about sanctifying A

780
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,200
consecrating a time to God. 
What would be wrong about this? 

781
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,240
What would be wrong about 
resetting these things? 

782
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:20,600
And I know when my boys were 
little, as a family, we would do

783
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,400
for this month. 
We're not going to watch any 

784
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,720
television. 
My children were like, no, why? 

785
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,520
We're not. 
We don't need this. 

786
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,680
It's you guys that need it. 
But we would always find when we

787
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,080
would come out of that, there 
would be a greater discernment 

788
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,200
and guess what? 
We were talking with one another

789
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,760
more. 
There's so many conversations 

790
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,520
that need to be had, but they're
avoided. 

791
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,520
Whether it's our conversations 
with God or our conversations 

792
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,840
with one another, that when we 
push aside those things that are

793
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,200
separating us, we're going to 
actually find this freedom and 

794
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,200
that. 
And then it talks about breaking

795
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,200
the yoke of bondage. 
I believe fasting can break the 

796
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,600
yoke of bondage of pornography. 
I believe that fasting can break

797
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,040
the yoke of bondage of eating 
disorders. 

798
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,000
I believe fasting can break the 
yoke of gossip. 

799
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,240
It can break the yoke of having 
a constant need for man's 

800
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:16,240
affirmation, people approval, 
that fear of man, people 

801
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:18,480
pleasing. 
I believe that gets broken by 

802
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,720
fasting. 
So I believe if you bring it to 

803
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:24,200
God and you say God, I've 
wrestled with this for so long 

804
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,960
and I am not getting free, I 
believe that you can put it on 

805
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,440
the altar before the Lord and 
say, God, I'm humbling myself. 

806
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,000
I've tried to get free on my 
own. 

807
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,880
I've tried to do it in my own 
strength. 

808
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,800
I've tried to do it in my mind. 
I can't do it. 

809
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,680
You put it on the altar and I 
believe God will meet you there 

810
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,040
and he'll tell you. 
He'll say, hey, baby girl, this 

811
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,160
is what you need to do. 
This is what you can't. 

812
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,520
You know, if you've got baby 
girls, you've got kids. 

813
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,920
Don't worry about not eating, 
but you know where you've got 

814
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,760
room. 
Or you can have greater capacity

815
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,440
for me. 
You can put this aside or that 

816
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,560
aside. 
And again, it's not God. 

817
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,600
We're not earning something from
God. 

818
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,160
It's actually about creating a 
sensitivity to His voice. 

819
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,880
I want you to know that I 
believe that God's grace is on 

820
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,000
you when you prepare your heart 
and say God, I'm willing. 

821
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,120
So I'm just going to believe 
that God will grace you to fast,

822
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,600
that God will speak to you and 
that you'll know how to fast, 

823
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,200
how long to fast, and what 
you're actually fasting for. 

824
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,920
I believe that you'll go into 
this fast with purity of heart 

825
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,840
and that God will astound you 
with the answers. 

826
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,640
And you've been some of you've 
been waiting a long time and 

827
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,040
you're afraid to pray and you're
afraid to fast because you're 

828
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,040
afraid that God's not going to 
tell you what you want to hear. 

829
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,480
I just want you to know God is a
good God and he wants to speak 

830
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,680
to you. 
And even if it is correction, 

831
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,200
don't be afraid. 
He's redirecting you. 

832
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,080
He's never taking anything from 
you to punish you. 

833
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,720
He's taking things from you to 
actually strengthen you. 

834
00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:57,080
So I believe in this time of 
fasting, God wants to actually 

835
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,400
heal you. 
I believe he wants to break 

836
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,400
yokes of bondage. 
And so I'm thanking Father in 

837
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,840
advance for you touching and 
meeting all those that reach out

838
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,320
to you with the since our 
sincere heart in Jesus name.

