1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,800 If you think you have blown God's plan for your life, I need 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,720 you to hear me you. There's some people that God has 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,600 whispered promise to Christian and they have discounted God's 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,360 faithfulness because of their unfaithfulness. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,360 Why do you think we are so quick to equate our mistakes to our 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,320 worth? Well, I mean, I think the enemy 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,160 is a lot of times the one that's like whispering why do you think 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,600 you deserve better? Why would you deserve good? 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,040 I know for me, just looking even at my early part of my marriage 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,320 when my husband was addiction pornography, I looked at my past 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,800 and I thought, why did I think I would have anything different? 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,040 Making a mistake does not make you a mistake. 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:46,240 And if you think it does, welcome to the Lisa Bevere 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,640 podcast. Today we're going to be talking 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,920 about mistakes. Listen, I want you to hear me 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,560 making a mistake does not make you a mistake. 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:01,280 And if you think it does, you are mistaken and Christian. 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,840 I love that we are talking about this because so many people 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,400 think that God is looking at their past and measuring the 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,680 failures of their future. But here's the thing. 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:19,160 God believes better things of you than you actually believe of 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,440 yourself. And just he's not like, oh, I'm 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,440 just going to resign her to her past failures and mistakes. 24 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,320 He actually is the one who alone holds our future. 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:36,200 Having a past doesn't mean you don't deserve to have a future. 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,120 And the only one who can control your future is God. 27 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,200 And so we want to be people who surrender both our past and the 28 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,880 hope of our future to him. So we don't have to say because 29 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,760 we've made mistakes, we're giving other people the right to 30 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,680 control our future or discount our lives. 31 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,840 And Christian, we had a very sincere question. 32 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:02,640 Come in. Yeah. 33 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,360 Yeah. Can you share that? 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,080 Yeah, when you talk to your community around, like, what do 35 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,759 mistakes mean? How do those keep you held back 36 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:12,120 there? We even had one heartbreaking 37 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,360 message that said I thought I deserved an abusive relationship 38 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,160 because I wasn't worthy of a healthy 1. 39 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:25,240 I. Think that's so just crazy 40 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,520 because it it highlights, you know, the necessity of we need 41 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,360 this worth to accept anything good and we're accepting these 42 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,000 terrible things, not just, well, you know, who am I to say I 43 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,320 deserve the best marriage in the world? 44 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,800 It's like I'm accepting a terrible circumstance because of 45 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,360 my own worth. So why do you think we are so 46 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,320 quick to equate our mistakes to our worth? 47 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,200 Well, I mean, I think the enemy is a lot of times the one that's 48 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,840 like whispering, why did you think you deserve better? 49 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,080 Why would you deserve good? I know for me, you know, just 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,440 looking even at my, my early part of my marriage, when my 51 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,800 husband was to pornography, I looked at my past and I thought, 52 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,880 why did I think I would have anything different? 53 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,200 Why, why would I think that? But here's the here's the here's 54 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,440 one of the things I always use and, and you could, it'll be 55 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,080 easier for you than it was for me is I would think what I want 56 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,160 this from my daughter, what I want this from my daughter, what 57 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,280 I ever say to my daughter, Oh, you deserve something bad. 58 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,520 Well, I don't if I wouldn't say it to my daughter, I don't have 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:21,640 any daughters. So I have sons, but I have 60 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:24,360 granddaughters. Then would God say it to his 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,440 daughter? Would God say you're not worthy 62 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,680 of a good relationship, you're not worthy of a healthy future? 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,160 No, God would never say that to somebody. 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,920 And so I think we do need to actually come from a place of 65 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,920 like, hey, now, that doesn't mean it's going to automatically 66 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,920 happen. That doesn't mean that maybe I 67 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,680 brought some baggage into that marriage and I need to actually 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:50,480 get my mind renewed and get help to be able to build a healthy 69 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,840 marriage. I think so many young couples, 70 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,640 they're kind of just bloundering in their marriage and they don't 71 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,040 have anybody around them that's older, that's gone through the 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,240 hard seasons. It can actually help them to 73 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,840 move forward. But you know, what I love is we 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,720 have a very crazy couple as our parents of faith. 75 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,680 We've got Abram and Sarai, who became Abraham and Sarah. 76 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,040 I mean, let's just think about this. 77 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,720 I mean, if you look at the story, and I love to read the 78 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,400 scripture and really think about the story around it, which I 79 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,440 think the chosen is done for a lot of people. 80 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,520 But when we look at Abraham and and Sarai, because that's what 81 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,960 they were before they were Abraham and Sarah, these are two 82 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,520 people wandering through the desert. 83 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:42,440 She's barren, they've been married a long time and she's 84 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,160 not getting pregnant, and she comes up with a very stupid 85 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,200 idea. Why don't you sleep with my 86 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,440 handmaiden and then I'll just raise this child up as my own. 87 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,520 That's. Desperation, because I would 88 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,240 never. I've yet to meet the woman that 89 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,120 would say, yes, I would do that. I would be like, hey, sleep with 90 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,320 my handmaiden. And then we know Hagar when she 91 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,480 becomes pregnant, then, you know, she's, she's kind of 92 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,440 prideful, like, hey, I'm pregnant. 93 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,200 You're not. And then Sarah's not. 94 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,160 Not yet. Sarah Sarai beats a pregnant 95 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,560 woman like I would be. You know, like, let's talk about 96 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,200 bad behavior. Crazy was right. 97 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,840 On yeah, don't be crazy. I mean, I'd be like, hey, Jerry 98 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:22,280 Springer show, come on, get these people on. 99 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,400 Beats her, said Hagar runs away. God has to send an Angel and she 100 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,200 thinks her son's going to die and God's like, go back, submit 101 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,440 to the crazy woman. And then, you know, brings back 102 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:38,600 and then then what happens? So I figures out this boy 103 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,720 doesn't love me. Abram loves the son. 104 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,560 He's content with having that son Ishmael for his own. 105 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,120 But she, her life is empty and and she's like, Oh my gosh. 106 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,400 And now she's in this place of utter despair. 107 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,240 And in this place of utter despair in the Scripture, we 108 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,720 find out that God shows up. And it what's so crazy in in 109 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,440 Genesis 17 verse 15, it says, and God said to Abraham, As for 110 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,320 Sarai your wife, you should not call her Sarai, but Sarah shall 111 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,960 be her name. I will bless her And moreover, I 112 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,240 will give her a son, but I will give you a son by her, and I 113 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,240 will bless her and she shall become nations. 114 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:24,200 Things of people shall come from her. 115 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,600 I'd be like, Are you sure? Are you sure that's who you 116 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,120 want? You do remember what she did? 117 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,600 Offered her maid to her husband, beat the pregnant woman. 118 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,520 Then Abram fell on his face and laughed, laughed out loud and 119 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,640 said to himself, shall a child be born to a man who is 100 120 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,560 years old? And shall Sarah, who is 90 years 121 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,920 old, bear a child? So he's kind of like, huh, this 122 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,440 is pretty funny. Then he says, oh, and Abraham 123 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,160 said, oh God, that Ishmael might live before you all the days of 124 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,240 his life. And then God says, no, but 125 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,520 Sarah, your wife shall bear you a son and you shall call his 126 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,360 name Isaac. I will establish my covenant 127 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,440 with him as an everlasting covenant. 128 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,880 And then he's like a year from now. 129 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,240 So in verse 21, but I was, that was my covenant with Isaac, whom 130 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,040 Sarah shall bear to you at this time next year. 131 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,360 So he's like a year from now. Things are going to be very 132 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,800 different a year from now. So Abraham, it's very 133 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,120 interesting. So God changes Abraham to 134 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Abraham and Sarai to Sarah, and when I talk. 135 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,360 Before the blessing comes, which is. 136 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,840 Interesting. Before the blessing he had to 137 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,120 give them capacity. They haven't done any in my 138 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,960 opinion, they haven't done a lot right other than looking for a 139 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,360 city whose builder maker is God. And and you know, of course, he 140 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,680 hasn't done the whole sacrifice Isaac yet. 141 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,280 They're just kind of wandering around, kind of hit and missing 142 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,880 here. And so God changes Abram to 143 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,280 Abraham and what he did, what's so beautiful is he took a 144 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,840 syllable from, I mean, took a letter from his own name to 145 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,800 expand Abraham. So the, the rabbi explained to 146 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,880 me, he said, when you're talking about Hebrew, it's not just like 147 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,920 a consonant or a vowel, It's a vision. 148 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,680 And God said, I'm going to give you vision. 149 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,920 I'm going to give you a letter from my name and I'm going to 150 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,600 give you vision that you're going to be the father of 151 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,400 nations because he's like, I have one child kind of in a 152 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,840 messed up way. And then he took Sarai, and 153 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:22,560 Sarai is actually a masculine name and he made it feminine. 154 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,600 So he made Abraham seed and Sarah soil. 155 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,640 He gave her back a receptivity, but that so God was like a year 156 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,400 from now, that's what's going to happen. 157 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,919 Which is so neat because I feel like their mistake was derived 158 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:37,080 from like that control and her operating knowledge. 159 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,919 She's a true identity. Masculine way that takes her. 160 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:41,840 Go ahead, have her. Isn't that interested? 161 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:42,880 They weren't. 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You can get 20% off when you use 170 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:18,440 the code BEVERE at Brave Books dot com back slash bevier and so 171 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,600 now we go all the way to chapter 18 and in verse one it says the 172 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,840 Lord appeared to him Abraham by the oaks of Mamroth and he sat 173 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,520 at the door of his tent in the heat of the day. 174 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:31,680 So now we've got these angels they come by and he lifted up 175 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:33,320 his eye. Look behold, three men were 176 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,920 standing in front of him. When he saw them, he ran to the 177 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,240 tent door Meadow. He said, hey, if I found favor 178 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,680 in his sight, don't pass. And then what he does is he he 179 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:43,360 under promises and over delivers. 180 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,680 He's like kills a calf. Sarah's in the tent. 181 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:47,840 They're making bread. Everything's going to happen. 182 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,120 He like, hey, just stay here, eat a little bit. 183 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,120 And then Abraham ran just her, took a calf, tender and good 184 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,120 gave it to the young man who prepared it quickly. 185 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,840 I don't think you can like slaughter that quick, but I 186 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,720 guess it's quick for, for that. And then they're all sitting 187 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,400 down and they're ready to eat. But then the three men said to 188 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:10,360 him, where is Sarah your wife? And he said she's in the tent. 189 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,640 The Lord said, I will surely return to you about this time 190 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,200 next year. So now we've got next year, a 191 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,240 year from now to about some little bit of time has gone past 192 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,120 and Sarah your wife shall have a son. 193 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,880 And Sarah was listening at the tent door behind him. 194 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,120 Abraham and Sarah were old, advanced in years. 195 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,960 The way of women when she was having a period had ceased to be 196 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,440 with Sarah. So Sarah laughed to herself 197 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:39,800 inside of herself, not out loud, not out loud saying, after I am 198 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,040 worn out and my Lord is old, shall I have pleasure? 199 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,160 And the Lord said to Abraham, Why did Sarah laugh, saying, 200 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,240 Shall I indeed bear a child now that I'm old? 201 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,960 Is anything too hard for the Lord at the appointed time? 202 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,040 I will return to you about this time next year, and Sarah shall 203 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,760 have a son. But Sarah denied it, saying I 204 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,960 did not laugh, for she was afraid. 205 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,880 And he said no, but you did laugh. 206 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,000 OK, so now I want to, I want to highlight some things. 207 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:11,840 First of all, if angels came to my house and knocked on the 208 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,680 door, they would not have to say to John, where is Lisa, your 209 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:17,960 wife? I would be there. 210 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,000 I'd be like, I'm here. I've called Christian and Arden, 211 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,840 they're bringing Azie and Tatum. I've called Addison and Julie, 212 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,440 Maddie and Alec, they're on their way. 213 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,360 It's going to be 30 minutes. Can you guys just wait a little 214 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,280 bit? I'll make you some pasta. 215 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:34,480 I would be fully present, but Sarah is listening in on a 216 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,360 conversation that she really should have been part of. 217 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,320 Was that cultural? Or it could have been cultural. 218 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,920 But I also think they asked for her. 219 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,680 Where is she like why is she not here? 220 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,680 And then they said where is Sarah your wife? 221 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,720 Why didn't you just say where is Sarah? 222 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,440 And I believe that they said your wife because Sarah and 223 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,560 Abraham has started living like brother and. 224 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:59,440 Sister. He even called her his sister, 225 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,280 right? Yes, so they're they're in a 226 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,600 season of disappointment and discouragement. 227 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,080 Sarah is listening in on conversation she probably should 228 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,800 have been part of. And so we hear, OK about this 229 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,080 time Sarah's going to have a son. 230 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,720 She laughs, and I don't think she laughs because she really 231 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,920 was filled with joy. She was so used to 232 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,680 disappointment that it was painful to hope again. 233 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,200 And I think Sarah believed the lie that a lot of people 234 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,480 believe. They think after I've made so 235 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:38,080 many mistakes, I've blown God's plan for my life. 236 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,720 And if you think you've got blown God's plan for your life, 237 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,280 I need you to hear me. You are not that powerful. 238 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:49,720 And So what happens is those men's leave. 239 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,080 They deal with Sodom. But what's so crazy is once 240 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,680 again lies says he's a sister and she gets put in a harem. 241 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:03,280 And at that point, at that point, God intervenes and he 242 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,960 gives Abimelech a bad dream and he's like, you're a dead man 243 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,240 because you took this guy's wife. 244 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,400 And he's like, why have I touched her? 245 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,760 He's like, OK, so God, God has Abimelech bless them. 246 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,520 But here's the thing. When people are restored in 247 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,440 their relationship one to another, no longer living like 248 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,960 brother and sister, when they're man and wife, no longer laughing 249 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,520 at the promises of God. But understanding is anything 250 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,680 too hard for God and believing that a year from now everything 251 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:32,720 can be different and and Christian. 252 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,800 I this is one of the the time periods where you see God 253 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,400 speaking specifically to his daughter Sarah. 254 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,920 See, Abraham hadn't told Sarah that God had said that she was 255 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,800 going to have a child and it was going to be Isaac Abraham. 256 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,200 I was also disappointed. He didn't want to. 257 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,680 He wanted to be Ishmael. He was like, come on, let 258 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:59,040 Ishmael live in your sight. So we've got this situation 259 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,560 where the husband isn't speaking to the wife about what God has 260 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:05,840 spoken to him about. The wife is laughing because he 261 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,560 said why? He didn't say Sarah, why'd you 262 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:11,920 laugh? He said Abraham, why did Sarah 263 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,560 laugh? It was like he was saying you 264 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:17,720 didn't tell her, did you? You didn't tell her that I had 265 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,000 just talked to you in the last chapter, that I changed your 266 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,800 name, that I changed her name. That I'm getting away to do 267 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,960 something new and astounding. That I'm going to take two 268 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,080 flawed people and out of you both, I'm going to create a 269 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,080 nation and kings and people groups are going to come 270 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,920 through. Two people who actually are 271 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,040 flawed and made a lot of mistakes, but have learned to 272 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,000 turn that over to God. I love how the message says that 273 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:52,080 Abraham gave God permission to make somebody out of nobody. 274 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,200 And I think all of us can come to that place where we can have 275 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,560 a false sense of actually pride and make it look like 276 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,880 insecurity. Oh, yeah, no, I just, I'm just 277 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,120 nobody. I'm. 278 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,880 And that shame, I'll just keep, I'll just punish myself. 279 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,600 And God saying, come on, a year from now everything can be 280 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,480 exactly the same, or a year from now you can actually believe God 281 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,880 and you can actually dare to hope and dream again. 282 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,040 And I feel like that's what he's calling us into. 283 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,320 It's not to get out of the failures of all of your past and 284 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:29,280 all of your fears and stop living shallow, fruitless lives 285 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,720 when you're really a deep well, hey, it's easy to initiate 286 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,880 spiritual conversations at home if you just follow the Bibles 287 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,680 example and gather around the table. 288 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,360 That is when connection happens. 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So let's get back to the table. 296 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,320 I love that you position all this around vision, not so much 297 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,280 deserving or worth because we know if, if it was based on 298 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,600 that, then nobody, even someone that's not living in the crazy 299 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,560 Harlem relationship, none of us would be deserving on that 300 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,360 basis. But it's all about that vision. 301 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:37,240 And I found when I dealt with my own shame mindset and as I wrote 302 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,280 on it, I discovered or I felt like, OK, sin is this chain that 303 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,920 links us to the complete wrong identity. 304 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,040 But shame's kind of like this loose noose that's like, oh, but 305 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,920 I still want to keep you back from what God can do and opening 306 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,560 it past, well, what is he going to do for me or how am I going 307 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:54,920 to be blessed? But like, what does he want to 308 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,280 do through me? What does he want to do through 309 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,080 the generations? And so you sharing that around 310 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,360 vision, I think really can find shame to be what it is. 311 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,760 It's it's pride or disbelief or it's hopelessness. 312 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,880 So how would you encourage people to get out of those shame 313 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,560 loops and those perpetual cycles and lies in their mind? 314 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,079 Well, I mean, you've brought up so many things I think so many 315 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:18,400 people are struggling with right now. 316 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:22,480 And I, I do think that there's some people that God has 317 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,760 whispered promise to Christian and they have discounted God's 318 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,600 faithfulness because of their unfaithfulness. 319 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,840 And yet scripture says even when we are faithless, he is 320 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,800 faithful. So even when foolish stuff was 321 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,840 happening. And again, there are examples, 322 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,040 I'm not dishonouring them. They were our examples even when 323 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:48,480 foolishness was actions in the past and having a child outside 324 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,200 of what God said between the two people to have even when that 325 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,160 happened. See, God can move beyond that. 326 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,680 Moses, we, you know, John, I just watched the 10 327 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,520 commandments. Oh my gosh, that is such a great 328 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,720 movie. Every single line had depth in 329 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,560 it. It was crazy. 330 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,520 I was like, they just weren't make good movies like this 331 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,440 anymore. But there's a moment where where 332 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,800 Moses perceives that God's hand is on his life, but he does it 333 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,040 in his own strength. And so many of you out there, 334 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,960 you felt you've known that God has got something more for you, 335 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,680 but you try to do it in your own strength. 336 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,720 And you birthed in Ishmael or you killed an Egyptian and God 337 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,640 is saying, I've taken you on the backside of the desert. 338 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,360 But now it's going to take more faith for you to believe that 339 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:35,320 you can speak. Because by the time God circled 340 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,480 back with Moses, he was like, I can't even talk. 341 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,560 And yet he was skilled. He was skilled. 342 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,640 He was trained up in Pharaoh's household. 343 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,440 He was skilled. He was knowledgeable. 344 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,520 He was more qualified than anybody. 345 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,520 But he thought that one action had disqualified him. 346 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,680 And that is where I find a lot of people are they think, no, 347 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,960 no, it's too late, I'm too old, it's too sad, I'm too bad, 348 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,720 whatever it is. And it's that shame and it's the 349 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,320 enemy trying to keep you captive. 350 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,960 He will always use our history to undermine our destiny. 351 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,880 And so you need to actually allow God's word to create some 352 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,120 pathways for you. I love that the Bible says thy 353 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:19,960 word is a light unto my path. So it actually illuminates the 354 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,120 path. God's word lights up the path, 355 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,720 but the darkness of your yesterday's will cause you to 356 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,040 circle back to where you've been and miss out where God wants to 357 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,160 take you forward. So God has a plan. 358 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,160 The enemy always has the scheme. You're always going to see the 359 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,960 tension between those two. The devil's scheme in God's plan 360 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,120 and every single day you make a choice. 361 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:43,280 Which one are you going to go into? 362 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,080 And so I love that this whole idea that God says I'm going to 363 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,720 give you people that are barren to have to believe me. 364 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,760 People that have to leave all that's familiar and look for 365 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,120 only what I can give them and that people that have some 366 00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:00,360 battles, you know, they I mean, it's there's a couple 367 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:01,680 disobedience. He takes a lot. 368 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,960 God tells him go alone. He takes a lot. 369 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,440 You know, it's just it's just crazy how many different times 370 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,880 then he, you know, rescues lot by interceding, but then lot 371 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,480 ends up in a really bad situation and actually creating 372 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,880 the MO bites, which is you think about that. 373 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,080 That's that's kind of bad. But when people have gotten so 374 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,920 used to discouragement and disappointment, they're afraid 375 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,560 to hope again. And hope is the anchor. 376 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,960 Hope is something we all need. Faith is the substance of things 377 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,080 hoped for. And like you said, hope is the 378 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,040 vision. And so we faith is the 379 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,840 substance. Hope is the vision. 380 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,440 And so people need to dream again, but not their own dream. 381 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,080 Not like here's what I'm going to be and here's what I'm going 382 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,000 to do. Because then you'll just do it 383 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,920 again in your own strength. You've got to say, God, what is, 384 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,920 what is the way forward? What is the plan? 385 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,280 What is the legacy? How do you want to do that? 386 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,160 I love that you're sharing that faith. 387 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,800 Is this necessity along with the going from the mistake to the 388 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,200 vision? I'd love to ask more to what can 389 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,640 we really do to make sure we are following that path and we're 390 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,800 not just hopping into those same habits or, or patterns? 391 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,080 Because I look at, you know, Nebuchadnezzar and Saul, both 392 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,800 men that made mistakes, both men that, you know, the Lord used 393 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,080 and appointed. We see Nebuchadnezzar go through 394 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,840 his own crazy seasons, but then he's restored. 395 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,280 And then we see the opposite for Saul. 396 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,200 He just gets crazier and further away. 397 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,080 So along with faith, I mean repentance, what else should we 398 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,880 really be making sure that we are getting and and giving back 399 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,280 so we can get all those mistake cycles? 400 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,920 Well, I mean, it's interesting, Saul was insecure. 401 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,880 It's very interesting you see him insecure, but he doesn't go 402 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,160 from insecure to security in God. 403 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,360 He goes from insecurity to pride. 404 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,880 And so when we do not submit our insecurity and let God deal with 405 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:53,280 it and say I'm secure with you in you, then we go to a fallen 406 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,200 form, which is pride. And so he became arrogant and 407 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,120 pride. What do you mean? 408 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,920 I've only killed my thousand and David's killed 10,000. 409 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,360 Hey, you know, why did they sing that? 410 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,520 He he goes from being like, oh, that's great for the king them 411 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,480 to like, I need the honor. You see that play. 412 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,680 And so we have to always be submitted to what is what is our 413 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,200 motive here? Am I the focus or is God the 414 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,760 focus is the Kingdom focus or is it my Kingdom? 415 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,280 Am I building something for myself or am I or I'm honoring 416 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,920 God. I mean Abraham and Sarai or 417 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:31,840 Abraham and Sarah, they they they like shifted everything. 418 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:36,080 It's said that she honored Abraham and called him Lord. 419 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,160 Now that's interesting because I don't think she was calling him 420 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,160 Lord in the beginning, I think. I don't think they were even 421 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,320 sharing a tent I. Don't think they were. 422 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,920 I think I think things were really sideways on them. 423 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:52,000 And what I love is it isn't how you start, it's how you finish. 424 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,880 And you know, we see that all through Scripture. 425 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,560 You know, we see it in the book of Ezekiel. 426 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,920 We see it the warnings. It's not how you start, it's how 427 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,880 you finish. And so God is saying to a 428 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,440 generation of people, the enemy wants you to think your life is 429 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,720 captive to how you began. And I am telling you that my 430 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,360 mercy is new every single morning. 431 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,360 And you can finish well, but you need to begin to run. 432 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,760 You cannot sit there in your past. 433 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,600 You cannot go back to that place of pain, which is also very 434 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,600 interesting to me because I find that people will go back to 435 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,760 places of abuse to try to find healing and you'll never find it 436 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:26,920 there. Like you'll see. 437 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,640 Like, OK, I'll use myself again as an example because I feel 438 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,920 like I've done everything wrong. First of all, my dad was a man 439 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,400 who is very hard to please, Hard to please. 440 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,840 So what did I do? I dated guys hard to please, you 441 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,200 know, I thought if I can win their affection, it's almost 442 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,320 like winning the affection I never got from my father. 443 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,880 But guys that are hard to please are hard to keep. 444 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,200 And and so I was like, well, that that didn't workout well. 445 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:58,160 And what I love is God said the reason why he chose Abraham to 446 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,440 be our father of faith wasn't about what Abraham did, but what 447 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,080 Abraham he knew Abraham would do. 448 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,200 He said, I've settled on Abraham because he will teach his 449 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,520 children my ways. So God is always thinking 450 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,600 legacy. We're thinking past and we're 451 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,040 thinking this moment. And God is like, I see something 452 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,680 in the future. I see that if I can get this to 453 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,080 you and through you, then you're going to raise up children who 454 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,560 will honor me. And, and at the end of the day, 455 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,400 God is looking for long term obedience. 456 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,720 He's not. He's not measuring us by our 457 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,720 short term disobedience. What would you say to someone 458 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,120 that is sitting in the consequences or aftermath of a 459 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:42,200 mistake? So, you know, just the sweet 460 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,040 woman that has responded. I feel like I deserve that 461 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,360 abusive relationship. I've hear you tell her, hey, you 462 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:48,040 know, receive God's love for you. 463 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,840 Receive that new vision. You are not deserving or kept in 464 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,480 something bondage from your past. 465 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,800 How do we move forward in those really terribly difficult. 466 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,760 Yes, whether it's, you know, the marriage or even if it's 467 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,720 something I accepted a job because I didn't think I was 468 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,440 smart enough, like a Moses example. 469 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,120 What's your advice on how to move? 470 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:10,600 Forward First off, I mean, when, when we're in that kind of 471 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,640 situation where you're like, I didn't deserve a healthy 472 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,200 marriage because I wasn't worthy of it. 473 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,240 First of all, we got to take this outside of the marriage and 474 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,800 we need to deal with your relationship and your 475 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,160 perspective of God, that you think that God would punish you, 476 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,960 that you would think that God would say you don't deserve 477 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,800 love, you don't deserve. And, and here's the thing, I 478 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:34,400 love that if you can actually receive a right perspective of 479 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,240 God, God will pour his love into you and then you'll be able to 480 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,800 have a healthy response to your situation. 481 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:45,880 I mean, there's, there's a lot of times there's marriages. 482 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,160 Listen, John, I have been married 43 years, but I have 483 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,640 read so many studies where they talk about how couples find 484 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,760 themselves in a horrible place in their marriage, but they 485 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,880 decided, hey, we want to work. We want to work on our marriage. 486 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:02,880 And five years later, we had a good marriage. 487 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,240 I was listening to this interview with this rabbi. 488 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,480 And he said that when his father would counsel different couples 489 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,480 and they're coming in and they have a bad marriage, he said 490 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,800 they would sit down and the the first person would start saying, 491 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,200 well, he doesn't do this well, she doesn't do this well, he 492 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,080 doesn't do this well, she's not doing this. 493 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,400 And he'd say stop, stop. None of that's going to help. 494 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,240 And the first thing you would ask him is do you want to stay 495 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,200 marriage? And they're like, well, no, 496 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,920 we're we're going to tell you all of our problems. 497 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,560 And they said he'd say, no, I need to know, are you going to 498 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,840 fight for your marriage or are you fighting for a reason to get 499 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,240 out? And he said, that is what I have 500 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,200 to work with because if you're looking for a reason to get out, 501 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,960 you're going to find it. But if you are looking and you 502 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,320 want to fight, I can help you. If not, I can sit down with you 503 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,520 and we can find a way to dissolve this marriage in a way 504 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,720 where you can be friends and not enemies at the end of it. 505 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,560 Now, I believe that marriage is a covenant. 506 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,920 I don't believe it should be quickly dissolved. 507 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,120 I don't think it should be like, oh, we got married and and I 508 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,960 feel like he's not, he's not emotionally meeting on my needs. 509 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,920 He can't only Jesus can. I mean, I'm just, I mean, I 510 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,120 think, I think Christian, I both have great husbands, but they 511 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,920 can't meet all of our needs and and nobody is supposed to meet 512 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:19,080 all your needs except for Jesus. And another shocking thing is 513 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,920 women when they have problems with marriage, they don't, they 514 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,800 very rarely go to the husband. I was listening to Pastor Josh 515 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,840 Howerton said Doc, that they go to their friends and women are 516 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,160 the ones that initiate 70% of the divorces and it's usually at 517 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,600 the advice of their friends. I mean, what if they went to 518 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:45,600 their husband and said I, I have, I have not tried in this 519 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,760 marriage or I have been, I've been afraid to dream in my 520 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,840 marriage. But we got married and we didn't 521 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,680 get married for this. We got married in hope. 522 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,880 How can we rebuild hope into our marriage? 523 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,560 I, I know that if I'm feeling alone and isolated and 524 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,480 disappointed, you must be feeling the same way. 525 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,400 You want to fight. What can we do? 526 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,680 How can I love you better? I think we all get trapped into 527 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,880 the how can you love me better? How can I love you better? 528 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,320 And then the two of them talk and build a marriage. 529 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,560 I know that there's been seasons of my 43 years of marriage. 530 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,240 There were years that were amazing and then there were 531 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,080 years that were really hard. And I'll be honest with you, 532 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,600 there were more years that were hard than were easy. 533 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:33,400 But recently I, I, I, he's the, he's the husband of my dreams. 534 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,120 But you know what? It, it requires commitment, it 535 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:42,080 requires self sacrifice, it requires service and it requires 536 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,960 work, just like anything in life that is worthwhile. 537 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,400 And I, I find that there's way too many easy outs in our 538 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,960 culture right now where people are like, oh, just quit, just 539 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,800 quit. Well, I mean, here's the thing, 540 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,280 God has committed to us and if we say, well, you know, that's 541 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,720 it, I'm tapping out on my marriage. 542 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,720 He's not going to reject us. He's not going to reject us. 543 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,760 But what I have found out was we sometimes have to learn the 544 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,960 lesson in another way. And usually it's it can be just 545 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,360 as difficult all over again because ever we would go, there 546 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,960 we are. We're taking ourselves and 547 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,040 sometimes we think it's always the other person. 548 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,320 When we're alone, we find out. Are we rejecting the? 549 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,320 Vision and so you know, if that sweet baby girl is listening to 550 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,720 us, baby, you are worthy of more you, but you you need to fight. 551 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,720 You need to fight to get what God actually believes you 552 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,720 deserve. And he's not against you. 553 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,240 He's not, he's not punishing you with your marriage, but marriage 554 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,720 is definitely an iron sharpen iron growth on both people's 555 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,200 part. Yeah, and I know that's a that's 556 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,800 a bigger conversation and and really done well, I think you 557 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,320 would say this too in community and with people that can help in 558 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,400 that particular issue. You have a great episode you did 559 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,000 on divorce at length. If someone's like, well, wait, 560 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,200 what about this, this and this and that caveat and that. 561 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,600 I encourage you to go watch that episode. 562 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,080 But even more than that, seek someone that can help you and 563 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,280 fight for your marriage with you. 564 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,000 I want to ask the question for, you know, someone that's maybe 565 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,880 said, Lisa, I'm fighting for that worth. 566 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,320 I'm fighting for believing that God loves me, but I also know 567 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,480 how important it is to have people around me that believe 568 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,640 that and speak into that too. But I'm in a family or a 569 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,280 community where people only want to see me from my past, or I 570 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,600 have people that verbally speak down to me. 571 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,520 What's your encouragement for them in that situation? 572 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,000 Or, you know, even going into the holidays where they're like, 573 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,360 I don't want to be around my family because they see me this 574 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,440 way. Yeah, well, I, I, I feel your 575 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,560 pain. I mean, I, I, I feel like that's 576 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,360 what I grew up with. And all of those narratives were 577 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,680 in my mind. And, and, and the truth is those 578 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,560 are things that have been spoken over you. 579 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,680 And the only way, the only way you're going to get those things 580 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,800 out is if you renew your mind by the word of God. 581 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,880 And sometimes what that means is you have to actually say what, 582 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,120 who does God say? I am? 583 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,360 He says I am beloved. He said I, you know, he says 584 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,960 that I am chosen like go who through the scriptures write it 585 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,640 all out, that he thinks I am a treasure, that I am a woman of 586 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,520 virtue. I am a woman of worth. 587 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,800 I am a woman who fears the Lord. You can form your own thing, but 588 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,520 there's only one person that can cause you to shrink. 589 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,120 And it's not your husband and it's not your family and it's 590 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,120 not the friends who don't see the potential in you, and it's 591 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,280 not the community that isn't supportive of you. 592 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,320 It's you. And when God actually put 593 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,920 something in your heart, when God whispers the truth, you 594 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,880 always have a choice. Are you going to to listen to 595 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,960 the lies of who you were in the past? 596 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,360 Or are you going to lean in to what God says about you in the 597 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,640 future? You know, it says forgetting 598 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,800 what is behind and straining for what is ahead. 599 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,920 That's what Paul said. He said, I've got I forget 600 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,040 what's behind. He was a murderer. 601 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,960 He was a religious zealot. He said, I'm going to forget 602 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,080 what's wrong. I'm going to strain need for 603 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,640 what is ahead. See, it's so much easier to stay 604 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,440 and what's behind. It's a strain to move into 605 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,320 what's ahead and God is inviting you into the harder thing, but 606 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,000 it is the better thing. You need to renew your mind to 607 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,600 the word of God. Stop playing the victim. 608 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,240 You're not a victim. You're a threat to the plan of 609 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,160 the enemy. And I love that. 610 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,640 There was just so many things when I even Christian, I wrote 611 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,840 my first book I heard. Who do you think you are? 612 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,600 Nobody in your family has even, you know, ever written a book. 613 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,280 What what do you have to say? You haven't gone to seminary. 614 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,120 You can't do this. You can't say that you can't be 615 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,760 there. No one. 616 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,480 I mean, all those things. I just, you have to just keep 617 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,520 moving forward. And it will require courage to 618 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,080 lay hold of the promises of God. That's what we, that's what we 619 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,800 do. We are not passive people. 620 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,200 It's through acts of faith. Faith is an action. 621 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,880 It means you move forward and you don't have to be hateful. 622 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,080 You, you don't have to, to say that's it. 623 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,760 I'm never coming home for Christmas again. 624 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,000 You, you can just be like, you know what? 625 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,480 I, I understand that you see me that way because that's how I 626 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,920 used to be, but I'm not that person anymore. 627 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,760 You can say that you don't have to come back down under it. 628 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,240 And I know sometimes when Christmas times and holidays, 629 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,480 people go into pecking orders and you know this, this isn't 630 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,440 just a holiday thing. This is a timeless thing. 631 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,640 Sometimes when you go back among family, people go into pecking 632 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,760 orders, but you do not need to shrink. 633 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,840 And, you know, they all thought Joseph was a horrible brother, a 634 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,800 tattletale, A braggart. But the truth is Joseph was sent 635 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,560 before them for their provision in the future. 636 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,280 And so if you can lean into the promises of God and not get 637 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,240 bitter at the words of people, I believe that God will anoint you 638 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,760 to be provision for the very people that right now are trying 639 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,920 to shrink your life. Yeah. 640 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,440 I think that's so good and you know, knowing that Christ is our 641 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,720 Redeemer and he is our judge and he is our portion. 642 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,640 I think is such a a sweet word, but also a powerful statement 643 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,560 too. I would love to ask you as a 644 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,280 mother, well, as someone that was a young girl that believed, 645 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,159 you know, I'm this I'm that I don't deserve this to now being 646 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,120 a mother and grandmother of legacy. 647 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,760 Can you just empower the viewers right now of, you know, we set 648 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,560 the vision, but what is at stake if we don't adhere to it, if we 649 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,639 just stay in the laughing posture rather than the 650 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,280 accepting? What's at stake for us, for our 651 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,480 marriages, for our children, if we don't pioneer into what God 652 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,320 is offering and inviting us to? Yeah, well, I mean, everything, 653 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,840 everything is at stake. And here's the God is a 654 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,600 generational God. And so what's what, what a lot 655 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,239 of people miss is God came to Abraham's father before he came 656 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,400 to Abraham and he offered the promise to Abraham's father and 657 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,880 he was like, Nope, I'm just going to stay and idol maker in 658 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,360 the land of earth. So God will offer it to one 659 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,719 generation. And then if they say no, then it 660 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,640 goes to the next generation. So you can actually say I, I 661 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,720 don't want it. It's too much work. 662 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,480 I, I just want to be comfortable. 663 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,560 I just want to live in the past. I'm not going to dream, I'm not 664 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,080 going to fight, I'm not going to pray. 665 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:10,680 But what happens is that fear that you fight, it's going to 666 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,080 grow and the next generation that battles going to be harder. 667 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,360 I've learned a long time ago, our children either inherit 668 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,720 God's promises or our fears. And so you have to decide what 669 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:26,440 do you want to pass on? What do you want to pass on in 670 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,640 your marriage? You want to pass on fears or do 671 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,240 you want to pass on promises? Do you want to pass on pain or 672 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:35,800 do you want to pass on hope? Do you want to pass on lessons 673 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,680 or do you want to be an object lesson? 674 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,480 You have to think about it every single day. 675 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,440 We make choices that go into our future and we want those to be 676 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,920 choices that go into the future with strength. 677 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,840 And so I just want to set before you, just like God said, I'm 678 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,520 going to set before you. Life, death, blessing, cursing. 679 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,960 Choose life and how we choose life. 680 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,200 We don't stand at Mount Sinai and say we choose life, we 681 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,520 choose Jesus. We choose Jesus and Jesus 682 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,720 becomes our pattern. And because he's our pattern, we 683 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:10,440 deny ourselves and denying ourself isn't just like, well, 684 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,840 I'm not going to let myself have that. 685 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,240 Denying ourself. Part of that is denying the 686 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:20,200 limitations and the shame of people and embracing the 687 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,920 identity of God. See, we were outsiders. 688 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,280 Now we're insiders. We are outside of Christ now 689 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,080 we're in Christ. We were we were aliens and now 690 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,880 we're children. We have to embrace the identity 691 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,440 of God and we have to fight for that. 692 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,920 And then it says, deny yourself, take up your cross. 693 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,760 What does that even mean? It means that we live at the 694 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,760 intersection of everything that God has done for us. 695 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000 Whatever that is that he's done for you, that is what you get to 696 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,920 carry into your world. People are looking for people of 697 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,880 confidence, of faith, of healing, of freedom, whatever 698 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,080 He's done. So you can carry that forward 699 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,480 again, the promises, or you can carry the pain and the fear. 700 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,640 And we carry the promises forward by following Christ. 701 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,520 So I just believe that if you are a disciple of Jesus Christ, 702 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,720 the word of God is going to light a path before you. 703 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,600 You walk on that pathway. You believe the promises of God. 704 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,160 You renew your mind not to what you've heard, but what God is 705 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,600 saying about you, and you lift your eyes, you listen to the 706 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,800 Holy Spirit. You worship God instead of 707 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,840 setting yourself. And that way you'll move forward 708 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,320 and strengthen confidence. So good. 709 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,960 Well, thank you for setting this vision for us, for women 710 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,280 watching everywhere. I've just seen the faithfulness 711 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,240 of God, Christian. I mean, I've been, I've been 712 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:41,560 married now 43 years and I've been a Christian since in 1981. 713 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,840 And I've made more mistakes. And all I've seen is the 714 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,240 faithfulness of God. All I've seen is the grace of 715 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:48,720 God. All I've seen is the mercy of 716 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,240 God. And I want other people to, to 717 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:53,600 walk into that freedom. And, you know, one of the things 718 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,800 that God said to me is your past is not your future unless you 719 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,720 want it to be. He said if you keep looking 720 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:01,080 back, you're going to go back, Lisa, or you can lift your eyes 721 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,240 and you can go forward. And I think that's really what 722 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:04,720 we're all. We're all ready to move forward. 723 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,080 Yeah. We. 724 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,640 Don't want to be salt pillars. No, we. 725 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,640 Don't want to be salt pillars? Don't turn to sod. 726 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,960 Don't do it. 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