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There is nothing new under the 
sun. 

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Everything we're experiencing 
right now we can find an answer 

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to in the Scriptures. 
We're a nation, America. 

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We're one nation under God. 
We know about God, but do we 

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worship Him? 
God makes a promise to us. 

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He says He hears from heaven and
he heals our land. 

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And I watched what happened 
during the elections. 

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Everybody's like, no, no, When 
we get this candidate and God's 

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like, when my people who are 
called by my name humble 

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themselves, turn from their 
wicked ways, seek my face, I 

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will hear and I will heal. 
If we know OK, this is because 

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people are not connected to God 
now. 

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What? 
Do we do? 

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Because it's tempting and our 
flesh should be like, no, you're

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wrong And like, start debating. 
Yeah, but what's our position 

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then? 
To combat the folly we see. 

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the show description. 
Welcome to the fight for a 

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female. 
I'm Lisa Mivier. 

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I am joined by my darn law 
Christian, Christian Bevere, and

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hey Christian. 
I feel like today is the day we 

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need to talk about what the heck
is going on. 

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Like why our world has gone so 
crazy right now? 

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Because there is nothing new 
under the sun and there are 

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patterns that happen when people
worship God, turn away from God,

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worship self. 
Like all these different things 

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and everything we're 
experiencing right now, we can 

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find an answer to in the 
scriptures. 

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And so you're saying the Bible 
isn't dead? 

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It's not outdated. 
It's a lab. 

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It still. 
Speaks today, yes, you know, 

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and, and I think right now 
there's a lot of people saying, 

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what is going on, what is going 
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How did our world get so crazy? 
And, and I love that we can find

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an answer in the scripture to 
actually what is going on. 

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And so I'm going to actually 
open up with Romans chapter one.

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I'm going to talk from I'm just 
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going to talk about 3 separate 
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The first thing we're going to 
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God. 
So it says, but the basic 

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reality of God is plain enough. 
And I'm reading from the 

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message, open your eyes. 
And there it is. 

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By taking a long and thoughtful 
look at what God has created, 

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people have always been able to 
see with their eyes as such. 

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Can't see eternal power, for 
instance, and the mystery of His

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divine being. 
So nobody has a good excuse so. 

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It's daunting if you think about
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Yeah, So what I what I read when
I when I read that, I think when

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I look at the stars, when I look
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ocean, when I look at the 
mountains, everything in 

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creation says there is a crater.
Everything that we see says 

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there is something more that we 
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And it says that our eyes as 
such can't see, which is the 

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eternal power of the creator 
because you know, I, I, you 

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know, I get to fly in airplanes 
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don't, I, I don't love a God who
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heard the gospel. 
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it says by taking a long and 
thoughtful look, if we can look 

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at creation, we will see the 
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I want to know you and I, I, I 
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So it's not, it's not casual, 
it's a thoughtful look and and 

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what's going on in our culture 
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Too much to name, unfortunately.
Nobody takes long and thoughtful

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looks. 
Well, I was going to say, what? 

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What do you think keeps that 
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Like why are we not able to see 
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Is because we're seeing so many 
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distracted. 
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ourselves it's something else. 
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God. 
I mean, what's the most 

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disheartening to you that you're
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Well, I mean, I think about 
David. 

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David had a revelation of God in
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confronted Goliath, before he 
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the wonder of God as his 
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Mm, hmm. 
You know, boy. 

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And he was a yeah, a little boy.
He had time to take a long and 

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thoughtful look. 
But right now we go from thing 

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to thing to thing. 
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We don't ponder and you know, 
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Scriptures, you, you know, 
you're reading through the 

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Psalms. 
It'll say say a lot. 

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What does that say? 
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Think about this pause. 
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to, we got to read all of our 
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We don't, we don't interact with
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We don't pause with it. 
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again, in the answer of what? 
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If, if, if we are missing 
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crazy? 
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this. 
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verse 21, but when they didn't 
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worship him, they trivialized 
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confusion, so that there was 
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in their lives. 
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but they were illiterate 
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So think about that. 
It says they knew God. 

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Like OK, like we're a nation 
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We're like, oh, we one nation 
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We know about God, but do we 
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Because when we worship him, we 
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When we worship him, we honor 
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But it says not just that they 
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to worship him. 
They trivialize themselves into 

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silliness and confusion. 
I feel like we have an epidemic 

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right now of silliness and 
confusion. 

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Which to me reads if you're not 
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to silliness, you're worshipping
yourself or those very things. 

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Which makes sense why anything 
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everything feels so near and 
dear and heightened and 

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heartbreaking. 
But it's like in reality, if God

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is our focus and these other 
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Yeah, like we don't have to live
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No, but I mean, if you are 
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disconnected from wisdom and 
insight. 

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There's silliness and confusion.
I mean, there's so many things I

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see right now. 
I'm like, OK, it's not going to 

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get any more stupid. 
It can't. 

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Everybody's going to be like, 
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And next week, more silliness, 
more confusion. 

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And then it says they pretend to
know it all but are illiterate 

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regarding life again, I'm 
thinking again about you doing 

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your gender reveal out here and 
somebody you, you have this cool

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gender reveal. 
Blue smoke comes out and people 

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are like, educate yourself. 
I'm like, what? 

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There's no silliness or 
confusion. 

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They're like, that was a genital
reveal. 

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No, it was adna reveal and. 
Let me ask you this. 

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You're a minister. 
If we know OK, this is because 

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people are not connected to God.
What? 

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Do we do because it's tempting 
and our flesh should be like no,

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you're wrong and like start 
debating. 

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But what's our position then to 
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Well, I mean, I love that while 
I'm having these conversations 

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for women to take back their 
femininity to understand it's 

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God-given God entrustment to me.
That is a measure my femininity.

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Embracing my femininity, my God 
creation is one of the ways of 

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worshipping God. 
Worshipping God not not silly, 

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being silly and confused about 
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I I love that John has been 
inviting people into the awe of 

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God, which is the worship of God
that says you alone are holy. 

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You alone are wise. 
Your ways are higher than my 

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ways. 
I'm going to stop living in the 

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realm of silliness and confusion
and I'm going to live in the 

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knowledge of God. 
So it you know, it just goes on 

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to just talk about it says they,
they traded the glory of God who

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holds the whole world in his 
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You can buy any roadside. 
Now here's here's the thing. 

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Back then they had statues. 
They're like, oh, this is my 

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household God. 
The statue of whatever I I 

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bought it on the roadside. 
This is my household God. 

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But we don't have household gods
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We have iPhones that we hold in 
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We have things that we bow down 
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We think, oh, that's just silly 
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Why? 
It's also silly that we worship 

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a world we can hold in our 
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It's not a cheap figurine. 
It's an expensive iPhone or an 

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Android or whatever. 
But it is still something that 

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is diminishing who we are and 
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You know, they're, they're 
saying more and more that 

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people's posture is changing, 
that their head down. 

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They're they're bowed over that 
they're like this. 

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And they're bowing to a world 
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Yeah, but it's, it's, I mean, 
bowing to a world they can hold 

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in their hands rather than lift.
I mean, we hear this all through

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the Scripture. 
Lift up your head. 

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You know, he says to Abraham, 
walk outside, count the stars. 

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He's God is wanting to enlarge 
our vision of who he is and we 

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are shrinking the vision of who 
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And when we do that we lose 
touch with who we are at the 

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same time. 
And then it says they traded the

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glory of God who holds the whole
world in his hands for cheap 

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figurines. 
You can buy any roadside. 

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So God said in effect, if that's
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get. 
And it wasn't long before they 

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were living in a pig pen, 
smeared with filth, filthy 

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inside and out. 
And all this because they traded

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the true God for a fake God and 
worship the God they made 

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instead of the God who made 
them. 

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The God we bless, the God who 
blesses us. 

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Oh yes. 
So there's an exchange, there's 

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a trade off. 
We're trading the God who made 

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us for being our own gods and 
making our own gods. 

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And again, we've talked about 
this since the beginning of the 

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Fight for Female podcast, that 
we have a generation that the 

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enemy is saying you cannot trust
God. 

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Remake yourself in your own 
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God made a mistake. 
Don't trust him with your 

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You can't trust him. 

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Go ahead and remake yourself. 
And So what we have is 

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confusion. 
Then Romans 126 says worse 

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followed. 
I'm like, OK, refusing to know 

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God, that you and I both know 
religion is, is not what we're 

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being invited into. 
We're being invited to a 

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relationship with a living God. 
Refusing to know God, they soon 

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didn't know how to be human 
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Women didn't know how to be 
women and men didn't know how to

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be men. 
Here we are. 

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When we disconnect from God, we 
lose our humanity. 

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We lose our ability to know what
it means to be a woman or knows 

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what it means to be a man. 
I mean, did you? 

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Did you know it goes that much 
in detail in the book of Romans 

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tell? 
Me when you read it in light of 

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looking around questioning and 
then the answer is right there 

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and I believe that form of Noah 
is also yada where you're saying

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it is relational. 
It's not enough to know there is

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a God that exists and maybe the 
Bible says something on how I'm 

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formed. 
Like you have to know him deeply

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to be able to combat like those 
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It's not that well God's good. 
So he tells me to be a woman, 

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and woman does this. 
Like you have to know him so you

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can know yourself. 
You know, I I love how important

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identity is to God and when we 
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we are. 
Most people are trying to figure

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out who they are and they don't 
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But what I have learned is as I 
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So as I, as I pursue my creator,
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And you know, if there's a lot 
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we're all image of God. 
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human born is created in the 
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But this is an invitation to 
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So we are not all children of 
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We're all image bearers. 
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become partakers of his divine 
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And a lot of times we don't talk
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And so that that gets confusing.
So when we refuse to worship, we

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actually unwind ourselves. 
It becomes an unmaking of who we

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really are. 
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It says sexually confused. 
They abused and defiled one 

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another. 
Women with women, men with men, 

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all lusts, no love. 
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Oh how they paid for it. 
Emptied of God and love, godless

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and loveless wretches. 
Now people get mad about that, 

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but I didn't write it. 
It's just he's saying hey, when 

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we don't know what it means to 
be human, we get confused and we

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become abusive and defiling of 
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And then it goes on to say, 
since they didn't bother to 

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acknowledge God, God quit 
bothering them and let them run 

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loose. 
Now, this is one of those things

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where you look at what's 
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now. 
I mean, I saw this little girl 

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screaming how she wanted to have
45 abortions that she loved 

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killing babies and just yelling.
And you know, maybe some of that

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was for attention, but the idea 
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And then the craziness of the, 
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says it's just not killing 
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I love, I want 45 abortions, 
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It doesn't make sense. 
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God actually says to a people, 
I'm taking my hand off, I'll 

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turn you over to be mastered by 
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It's not just about our 
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It goes on, it says. 
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Rampant evil, grabbing and 
grasping, vicious, backstabbing 

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life on hell, making life hell 
on earth with envy, wanton 

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killing, bickering, cheating, 
mean spirited, venomous fork 

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tongue, God bashers, bullies, 
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They keep inventing new ways of 
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They ditch their parents when 
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This is not my word. 
Stupid, slimy, cruel, cold 

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blooded. 
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They know perfectly well they're
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don't care. 
Worse, they hand out prizes to 

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those who do the worst things 
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And that speaks to me in the, 
the thing we've seen a lot on of

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people that are like, well, I'm 
believer, but I don't want to 

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offend anyone. 
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It's loving to be kind to 
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Love is love, how dangerous that
is of handing out prizes, 

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affirming this wretchedness that
is ungodly and I think it's no 

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coincidence this morning I was 
actually reading a John and it 

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said how when Jesus was being 
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we need to get him. 
We need to kill Lazarus too. 

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We need to kill anyone. 
Anything that gets in the way 

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and it says yet at the same time
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Yet at the same time, many, even
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him, but because of the 
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acknowledge their faith for fear
that we put out of the 

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synagogue. 
For they loved human praise more

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than praise from God. 
And my response to that is if I 

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let these things slide, if I 
just praise someone of Oh well, 

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you're so brave because you feel
something, I'm affirming 

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something that is anti God. 
But that's. 

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Well, and it's anti human right?
Like you don't want to be. 

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I don't want to be turned over 
to the most base things in my 

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life to have mastery over me. 
I don't want to be turned over 

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to be controlled by greed, 
backstabbing, sexual 

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proclivities, perversions. 
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church to just read the 
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church service. 
We don't even need to interpret 

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it. 
We just need to hit our faces 

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and say God I. 
God help us, help our nation and

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and so we've got the reality of 
God worship, the reality of our 

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day. 
That's where we are right now. 

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I wish it isn't, but that is 
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But then we always stop there 
and we don't go to Romans 2 

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verse one where it says those 
people are in a dark spiral 

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downward. 
But if you think that leaves you

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on the high ground where you can
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think again. 
Every time you criticize 

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someone, you condemn yourself. 
It takes one to no one. 

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Judgmental criticism of others 
is a well known way of escaping 

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detection in your own crimes and
misdemeanors. 

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He sees right through all such 
smoke screens and holds you to 

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what you've done. 
And then it says, you didn't 

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think, did you? 
That just by pointing your 

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finger at others you would 
distract God from seeing all 

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your misdoings and coming down 
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Or did you think that because He
is such a nice God, He'd let you

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off the hook better? 
Think this one through from the 

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beginning. 
God is kind, but He is not soft 

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and kindness. 
He takes us firmly by the hand 

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and leads us into a radical life
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And I just want to speak to the 
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have. 
You're very quick to judge the 

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evil in the world. 
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is it because we haven't allowed
God to take us firmly by the 

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hand and lead us into a radical 
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Because when people think that 
Christianity is just an add on 

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so that you don't go to hell 
when you die and not a agent of 

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transformation where you are 
transformed from glory to glory 

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From people who live for self, 
that live for others, or people 

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who lie and flatter rather than 
speak truth and see people 

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rescued. 
When we do not personally as 

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Christians allow God to take us 
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Because you can't preach out of 
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You have to have Romans 2 where 
God is saying, hey, hey, this is

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a mess. 
This is a mess here, but you 

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know better. 
And are you thinking by saying, 

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well look how bad they are, that
God isn't going to take you and 

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hold you accountable to what you
have done? 

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See, when we don't know to do 
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But all I know is that when I 
got born again, Christian, God 

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took me firmly by the hand. 
When I got born again, 

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everything in my life came into 
focus and I understood 

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everything that I had looked for
long for, that I realized that I

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was looking for all the right 
things in the very, very wrong 

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spaces. 
And I had to let God take me 

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firmly by the hand because I 
would have continued down the 

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wrong path but saying Jesus was 
my Lord. 

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And there's a lot of people that
are saying, no, God's just. 

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He's just kind. 
Yeah, he's just kind. 

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Well, I and I feel like CS Lewis
wrestled with a lot of this 

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where he would say, hey, he's 
not tame. 

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Talking about Aslan. 
He's not tame. 

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OK. 
But I feel like right now that 

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we Christians need to ask God to
take us firmly by the hand. 

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It goes on in Romans chapter 2, 
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You're not getting away with 
anything. 

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Every refusal and avoidance of 
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The day is coming you guys. 
This New Testament, this is not 

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Old Testament. 
The day is coming when it's 

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going to blaze hot and high 
God's fiery righteous judgment. 

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Make no mistake, in the end you 
get what's coming, real life for

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those who work on God's side. 
But to those who insist on 

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getting their own way and taking
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there you go. 
Fire. 

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And the love that it says, that 
his rebuke, his correction is 

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his love. 
And we see so clearly in Romans 

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one, his silence is his is 
contempt. 

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I know for me when things get 
too quiet is actually when I'm 

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scared. 
I'm at the point where I'm not 

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scared when Holy Spirit's 
convicting me and saying don't 

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say that to your husband or 
don't think that of that person 

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When it gets quiet and I get 
comfortable as when I think, 

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have I not been in the word 
enough? 

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Have I not been asking God to 
come in and seek my heart and 

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what makes me nervous for my 
generation. 

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And again, I think pause here 
and say this is not Lisa saying 

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you wicked people, you wicked 
Christians or me saying my 

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generation's terrible, but I 
think that healthy fear of God 

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that all of God, as you were 
saying John's speaking on is 

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what we need. 
And so that's for anyone that's 

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like, I might turn out of this 
episode because it just feels 

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rude. 
No, like we're asking for this 

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as well. 
When my generation, I see 

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there's a lot of focus on God is
love and and God is peace. 

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Well, well, I feel OK. 
I have peace about this. 

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Sometimes Arden and I will talk 
and we'll say, well, sometimes 

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it's good when we don't feel 
peace, it means God is speaking.

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And I'm worried that there's 
just so much love and peace that

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you're, as you're saying, we're 
not asking God for that hard 

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rebuke for the the turning away.
What would you say for maybe the

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younger generation watching this
that wants that comfortable 

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Christianity or that's all 
they've been? 

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Told it's interesting, I 
actually was watching another 

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minister preach on just a little
clip on Instagram and he said 

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some things that were not wrong 
and a lot of people are like no,

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God doesn't hate anything. 
I'm going to tell you right now 

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the God who is love does hate 
because God hates everything 

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that unmakes those he loves. 
So God hates when evil is called

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good God. 
God even says he hates divorce. 

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He he says that he says because 
it takes 2 and it tears tears 

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them. 
So there's things that God 

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hates, but everything that God 
hates is about protecting who he

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loves. 
And, and going back to my 

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conversion, I wasn't perfect 
right away. 

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And, and here's what happened 
for me. 

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And here was my journey going 
back to my sorority. 

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I went back to my sorority. 
Everybody knew I was born again.

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I told everybody, I'm born 
again. 

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I'm born again. 
I started praying for my 

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sorority sisters. 
I'd walk the halls at night 

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calling them out of a Kingdom of
darkness into a Kingdom of 

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light. 
I, you know, prayed in the 

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spirit. 
I had young girls coming to my 

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room asking how to get born 
again. 

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They saw the transformation in 
my life because they'd heard who

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I'd been. 
But you know, nobody really, 

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really actually knew I was a 
Christian until I made a 

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mistake. 
And for the very first time, 

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they saw me humble myself. 
And I think right now we 

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Christians, rather than 
attacking what we're seeing, 

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need to humble ourselves. 
Like, so for example, what 

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happened was I don't know why I 
decided to pick such a hard 

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major. 
I should have majored in 

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elementary Ed, but instead I was
in international economics and I

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was taking a stats and I was 
taking a financial accounting 

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course and I was taking another 
one. 

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I had three finals all in one 
day. 

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I don't know if the teachers are
like, let's funk out, funk out 

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the week. 
And so I had stayed up all night

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studying and I was at breakfast 
and one of my sortie sisters 

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comes in and she looks at me and
the two other girls were all 

450
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,160
studying together. 
And she was like, wow, you guys 

451
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,080
look like you look awful. 
We're like thank you, thank you.

452
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,480
You just keep moving. 
And then she gets her breakfast 

453
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,440
and sits down at her table and 
she says, Toscano, you look like

454
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,000
you've been run over by a car. 
And I just remember I said, why 

455
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,640
are you such a beep in the 
morning? 

456
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:43,560
And I mean, the whole breakfast 
room froze because the Born 

457
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,280
Again had cussed. 
And they're all like, what do we

458
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,440
do with this? 
And she knew what to do with it.

459
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,360
She stood up and she called me 
out and she said I knew it 

460
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,800
couldn't be true, that you were 
a Christian, you were just too 

461
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,360
bad. 
And she stormed out of the room.

462
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,520
And I remember my roommate said 
I was just about to say the same

463
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:05,440
thing. 
You're like, oh. 

464
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:11,600
I should have waited, no. 
But instead I stood up and I 

465
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,840
looked at all of my sorority 
sisters that were in the room at

466
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,160
that time and I said I am 
completely out of line. 

467
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,400
I owe all of you an apology. 
And they told me that was when 

468
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,160
they knew I was a Christian for 
the first time. 

469
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,600
Because before that I would have
said yeah, you know, or I would 

470
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,880
have said, yeah, get out of it, 
you know? 

471
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:37,200
They said they had never seen me
own my mistake or humble myself.

472
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,000
You did the hard thing. 
Exactly. 

473
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,200
And and what I hear over and 
over and over in the scripture 

474
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:49,360
is if my people who are called 
by my name, what does it say? 

475
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:58,080
Humble themselves, pray, seek my
face and turn from their own 

476
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,240
wicked ways. 
We're so busy trying to turn 

477
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:05,720
everybody else from their wicked
ways and God is like, just be in

478
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,640
charge of yourself. 
Turn from your own wicked ways. 

479
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,040
Now. 
It doesn't mean we don't stand 

480
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,640
up for those and we don't speak 
truth. 

481
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,480
That doesn't mean we say, hey, 
you know, we shouldn't be 

482
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,720
cutting up children. 
We don't bow down to the statue 

483
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,360
in front of us. 
But we don't. 

484
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,760
We do it in a way where it is 
not judgmental but protective. 

485
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,520
And so when we humble ourselves,
when we pray, when we seek God's

486
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,240
face, we turn from our own 
wicked ways. 

487
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:39,800
God makes a promise to us. 
He says he hears from heaven and

488
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,200
he heals our land. 
And I watched what happened 

489
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,680
during the elections. 
Everybody's like, no, no, when 

490
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:52,160
we get this candidate and God's 
like when my people who are 

491
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,760
called by my name humble 
themselves, turn from their 

492
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:04,000
wicked ways, seek my face, pray 
I will hear and I will heal. 

493
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:10,640
And right now, when I read 
Romans 1, Paul was talking about

494
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,080
the culture of his day, but the 
culture of his day is now the 

495
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,960
culture of our day, and it's 
been the culture of days past. 

496
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,560
I mean, this is a cycle that 
happens and it continues to 

497
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,040
happen until God's people 
remember that they're priests, 

498
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,280
that they can stand between the 
altar of God and the brokenness 

499
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,680
of people and the sin of people 
and cry out for mercy, when 

500
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,240
really what we deserve is 
judgement. 

501
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,480
And right now I feel like we 
are. 

502
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,440
Our nation is under the 
judgement of God because we are 

503
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,440
calling evil good and good evil.
And that's one of the signs of 

504
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,000
the judgement of God. 
It isn't when fire falls, it's 

505
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,120
when confusion reigns. 
It's when we are inhumane. 

506
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,880
It's when children are not loved
by their parents and parents are

507
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,040
not loved by their children. 
It's when greed is the 

508
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,520
motivation. 
It is when the medical community

509
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,800
lies to people and and because 
of prophet when when prophet and

510
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,360
everything is the top thing. 
That is what's going on right 

511
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,560
now and it will not shift until 
the people of God drop the 

512
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,840
stones and hit their knees. 
And I'm just going to tell you 

513
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,760
guys, I have very strong 
opinions on things, but God is 

514
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,800
not interested in my opinions. 
He's interested in my 

515
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:34,000
intercession and he's interested
in me owning my own mistakes. 

516
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,800
And so, you know, when I, when I
share Romans one, I want you to 

517
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,040
know this is God's word. 
This is not our judgement and 

518
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:47,520
and it just locates a time, but 
then it goes on and it locates a

519
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,840
people that are God's people 
that can begin to see things 

520
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,240
shift. 
So there's hope in the middle of

521
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,600
that, that mess because I can't 
control anybody else, but I can 

522
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,360
be responsible for my own 
actions. 

523
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,400
And the reality of us is we have
not allowed God to take us from 

524
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,920
me by the hand. 
We have preached weak, powerless

525
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,880
messages that do not offer 
transformation and do not say 

526
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,280
that the God who is love is a 
consuming fire as well. 

527
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,080
We don't, we don't do both 
sides. 

528
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,320
We just do the one side. 
It's kind of like, you know, I 

529
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,840
watched something you post the 
other day. 

530
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,600
And Oh no. 
No, and I saw I saw Arden 

531
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,400
swinging by his foot. 
You've got the protective mom, 

532
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,840
but you've also got the dad that
says, come on, don't be afraid. 

533
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,120
Embrace the wild. 
And and God is the tent in the 

534
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,040
tension of, of both the love and
the hate. 

535
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,600
And a lot of people think that 
hate is the opposite of love, 

536
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,160
but that's not true. 
Hate is not the opposite of 

537
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,800
love. 
Fear is the opposite of love. 

538
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,520
And so we've got to stop being 
fearful people and start to love

539
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,160
people. 
I'm thinking of the woman 

540
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,800
watching this thinking, yes, 
Lisa, thank you. 

541
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,680
This is a wake up call and this 
is what I'm feeling, but I don't

542
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,400
know what to do. 
And I want to go back to what 

543
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,639
you highlighted is you God's 
asking you to answer to what 

544
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,400
he's called you to. 
And it reminds me of the verse 

545
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,360
in Isaiah. 
And As for me in my home, we 

546
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,960
will honor the Lord and they're 
so it's a great Bible verse to 

547
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,880
put on Pinterest and in the 
things. 

548
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,760
But there's so much power there.
And I've seen how you and John 

549
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,440
have done that and it has 
transformed you as an 

550
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,880
individual, you as a couple, you
as a family. 

551
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,600
And the ripple effect that is so
much more powerful than the here

552
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,920
and now and what we can see that
does change the world. 

553
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,920
That does turn a tide rather 
than what I'm hearing you saying

554
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,159
when I'm gleaning and trying to 
relate to the other women is 

555
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,679
instead of feeling like we have 
to take a sword and fight 

556
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,880
everything we see and and be 
scared for our children to to 

557
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,720
raise them right now. 
It's how powerful and mighty is 

558
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:05,320
it to say, but I will humble 
myself, but I will take a stand 

559
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,760
for God. 
And I mean we named Azariah. 

560
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,840
Some people don't know this. 
She's like, I love that name. 

561
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,880
It's biblical. 
Where is it? 

562
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,440
I'm like, well, actually 
Shadrach, Meshach and Bendigo, A

563
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,520
Bendigo, his Hebrew name was 
Azariah. 

564
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,680
And I love that model of they 
didn't go around trying to cut 

565
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,480
Nebuchadnezzar like with the 
sword and like tell it, tear 

566
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,200
everyone down. 
They stood firm and they stood 

567
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,120
up for God. 
And that is what led to a nation

568
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,560
in in a ruler that was so 
corrupt, seeing God. 

569
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,840
And so there's power in your 
home. 

570
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:45,080
There's power in your example 
and if you, I don't know if 

571
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,240
you're ready to close, but at 
some point I would love for you 

572
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:51,840
to pray over all of us watching 
and even those that might not 

573
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,560
get to see this but might meet 
the people watching for eyes to 

574
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,080
be open, hearts to be healed. 
I think that's that's what we 

575
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,640
need. 
Yeah, you know, it's never too 

576
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,520
late. 
It's never too late to ask God 

577
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,560
to take you firmly by the hand. 
You know, all of us can go 

578
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,520
through seasons where our hearts
just get just hard, that our 

579
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,520
hopes just get lost, that we 
feel jaded, that we look around 

580
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,560
and we're, we're fed a constant 
stream of confusion and fear. 

581
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,240
And you're like Lisa, you're not
telling us anything like Romans 

582
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,000
isn't helping. 
But here's the thing. 

583
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,840
God is inviting us to 1st 
connect with him, to humble 

584
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,480
ourselves and say, God, we've 
allowed fear to be a counselor. 

585
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,000
We've allowed judgement to be a 
counselor. 

586
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,680
God, we're inviting you right 
now to take us firmly by the 

587
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,920
hand and lead us into a radical 
life change. 

588
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,640
That's what you were made for. 
You were never made for a small 

589
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,880
adjustment. 
You were made for a radical life

590
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,800
change. 
That is why millennials and Gen.

591
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,720
Z's, they've been moving away 
from the church in droves 

592
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:07,200
because they know that they were
made for something more. 

593
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,480
They were made for a radical 
life change. 

594
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,320
So I want to pray with you, 
Father, I just thank you that 

595
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:19,760
each and every day is a day 
where we humble ourselves and we

596
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:26,720
say, God, less of us, more of 
you, that we pray that we seek 

597
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,320
your face. 
And so, Father, we individually 

598
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,480
and we collectively as women who
are fighting for our family, are

599
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,560
fighting for what it means to be
a female, we ask you to take us 

600
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:44,480
firmly by the hand and lead us 
into a radical life change. 

601
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,560
God, we do not want to be those 
that point fingers and let go of

602
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,400
your hand. 
Father, we want to be holding 

603
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,320
onto your hand so tight that we 
are walking in your ways and we 

604
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,320
are following your path. 
So Father, give us eyes to see 

605
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,320
what you are doing in the 
Spirit. 

606
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,200
Give us courage to have a heart 
to speak truth in love. 

607
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:15,360
And Father, may us, may we walk 
in a a time of healing for our 

608
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:20,280
nation because God, it is such a
mess right now that the only 

609
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:25,680
thing that will change our 
nation is the power of your 

610
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,440
healing. 
That there would be a revival, 

611
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,880
that there would be repentance, 
that there would be an 

612
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,400
outpouring of your spirit, that 
you would be glorified and 

613
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,840
worshipped in our nation. 
And let it begin with us, 

614
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,160
personally, in Jesus name, Amen.
Amen. 

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00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,920
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