Dylan Daily Mail front page, cynical walk out.
That portrays our children again.
Can you believe it? These teachers our children
cannot afford another day of school?
Not a single day. I absolutely agree.
But before we carry on, I'm just going to phone call one second.
Hello, I King Charles I did not bad.
Not bad. Yep, no problem.
So you get a crown on your head on Saturday and you want the
schools to close on the Monday for all children.
Okay and when is this SATs week? Yeah, one day won't hurt, no
problem. See you then.
Hey everyone, welcome to the first episode of this brand, new
podcast, teach sleep, repeat my name is Dylan, and my name is
Hayden and we are primary school teachers.
And we thought what better way to start our podcast with one of
the most quietest weeks in recent, history, Hayden anything
happening this week and not really Monday pretty normal
Tuesday. Yeah, and so on Wednesday, we
had a couple hundred thousand teachers got a strike.
Oh, Not know what a pretty significant.
So we chosen this week to start off our podcast.
For those of you who don't know, I'm sure you will do because
it's been flooding, the media, the any you, which is one of the
biggest education unions in the country ballad to their members
over the last few months. Hayden, the nine members of the,
any you, and I don't think Hayden mines are saying that we
voted. Yes to strike action and after
the turnout of over 50% and with 90%, plus voting to strike, it
came into effect on the first of the February, which was a
Wednesday. And the only one hundreds of
thousands of teachers on strike, but there are hundreds of
thousands of other workers. I think, in total Hayden, it
went past, five hundred thousand people on strike.
So it's a really big thing that's happened and I we think,
you know, as to teachers and a lot of stuff in the press as you
could tell by her intro this week not necessarily being very
supportive. I think we want to get our point
across don't we? Yeah absolutely.
And like one of the biggest things for me, I'm just going to
Chuck this stat. You was just seeing How many new
members the any you gained in the last couple of weeks and
that just speaks volumes to me? And I know they use that stat a
lot in their, in their kind of campaign as well, but I think it
was around 40,000 40,000. Yeah, I had I think by the end,
it was about 20,000 because just to clarify, there are a couple
of teaching unions, not all of them at the threshold to strike.
So I think people felt very passionately about their desire
to strike. So for them to switch over in
the interim period, it does just show that, you know, this is a
strongly supported strike in the profession for sure.
Yeah. So what I wanted to do Hayden,
I've kind of come up this little game okay because what I didn't
want to happen was we just jump on here and then we just end up
getting into a heated argument where we both agree with each
other and get annoyed where I went.
So as always, so what we've got here is quite a nice little.
Let's just say role-playing activity.
So I've put together some of the most popular, Auntie strike are
Difference, right? And I can tell already just by
your face that I can see. You are already willing to fight
against, I'm ready? I'm raring.
I can feel my Palms getting sweaty.
I'm sure that's a vivid image for the listeners.
So, just full disclosure here obviously, there's lots of
arguments online. We see in the newspapers but
this these particular arguments I found them on a really, really
interesting. In Instagram page called Emily
explains. It's been posted around Lots.
She's brilliant at making these infographics.
So make sure you do try and just check that out.
But she put together these slides of common arguments
against the strike and how to kind of counteract them.
Now, I know for a fact Hayden, you haven't seen them.
So you don't know these arguments Advanced.
So I'm going to see what you can tell me as a teacher who voted,
yes to strike action, where we actually stand.
So that if anyone actually does have these arguments in their
head and they don't necessarily go, the strikes where we are
coming from, right? You better not maybe make me
embarrass myself at Dillon, no way, no way.
And I just want to say there are a few arguments against the
strike that were not even going to contemplate, right?
So anyone who says you shouldn't be allowed to strike when I'm
gonna go there, Yeah. Okay, that's fair enough.
So let's get started. Let's go straight in and I'm
going to put in a voice as well. Okay, this is the classic anti
strike and teacher person. I'm going to get into the role
ready. Not wait to hear what you sound
like. Okay, let's do this after covid.
Kids need to be in school. That's why do you sound like
that? Amazing?
Right, so, we start again, I'm listening.
I need to tell me take this seriously.
Here we go. Okay, I'm gonna do the poster
after covid. The kids need to be in school.
Especially the vulnerable ones. Or did I tell you what?
I'm a cat. I'm annoyed.
You started with this one because that's probably like,
the biggest argument. The one that nearly made me go
on, maybe we shouldn't, but my gut reaction to that because
someone said that to me in person was yeah.
Okay. Well they're also not a school
at the weekends and all of the half times and holidays and
other bank holidays, including the bank holiday that was thrown
at us randomly this year for King Charles as well.
So I just don't think it really holds up personally as a reason
not to strike as if it's like that's that counteracts.
Else like all of the reasons we do strike for I don't think
although it's a good argument because obviously we care about
these kids. And that's the idea of that
argument is like praying on us on our sort of our weakness.
Is I guess, of course, we care about these children and it's
hard to say. Now don't do want to look after
those kids, you know. But I just think there's a
bigger picture. Yeah, absolutely great.
And from my point of view, the thing it really frustrates me is
when someone plays the vulnerable children card, you
know, or you know, there's children who have special
educational needs because if we're going to get angry about
the provision for these children because they miss school for one
extra day. Like you said, which is just one
day of over 100 in this, in the whole year.
When they're not in school, we should be getting 100 times as
angry. At the fact that any budget has
been been squeezed over the last decade, there's no money in
place to support these children. The social care aspect has been
absolutely drained, and these children are falling through the
net. So for someone to pick that up
as a kind of point, I just think they're actually missing the
bigger picture and I tell you something as well.
I really don't like, is this like whole rhetoric around like
it, that every responsibility is on teachers.
I don't like that. Like, obviously teachers are
responsible for loads of things and we shouldn't say that
they're not but the whole point of this strike is to say.
It's the government that are in charge of this the government
can change that if we have a problem with these vulnerable
children, not having a place to go for that day.
The government can do something about that.
That's the point of the strike at the end of they like you're
saying, we're not trained social workers.
We want the absolute best for these children and we have a
specific skill set that we're very good at and we take
Safeguard and extremely seriously.
And if I had to say the number one, most important part of my
job, that I take the most seriously, is that children, are
in a safe environment, but it's a separate argument to striking
or not. It really is.
Yeah, it's not enough to say no no striking.
So good. Try Dylan.
Okay. Okay, so I'm going to I'm going
to get into role now as someone else from a different part, the
country because I'm sure not all people from London are against
the strike, so bad accent. I'm gonna.
Yeah, I'm going to find an accent ready, right?
I hope you're ready for this. Well teachers, happy hot.
Sorry why I just yeah, I was expecting that.
Come on. It's a posh.
It's a posh lady. Now, from somewhere in the
middle of the country is why wouldn't you just gone straight
to that ya? Go teachers have been offered up
to a nine percent pay rise. They just being greedy.
Oh gosh that's my favorite that's my favorite one.
This is the easiest one to bat away.
Look it's simple. If inflation is let's say 10% to
make it easy and you don't get a 10% pay rise.
You haven't had a pay rise at all.
If anything you've had a pay cut, if you get 10 percent, you
still haven't had a pay rise. You just get in the same pay as
last year is just scaled up. Yeah, absolutely.
And you know the annoys me the most about this rhetoric because
Jillian Keegan the education secretary has been on the
television and I said, this sentence out loud and it's
outrageous because it's a classic case of using data to
support your argument. In a really snide way, she went
on and said, teaches some teachers will be receiving a 15%
pay rise and they keep saying the things along the line was
along the lines of newly qualified.
Teachers will be receiving a 9% pay rise.
This is Ingenuous because the vast majority of teachers are
not newly qualified teachers and they will not be receiving
anything close to a nine percent pay raise.
So to say that as the kind of answer to well you know teachers
are getting a pay rise for my staff.
It's nowhere near that it's just lying.
Really? I was actually speaking to an EC
T recently and it's that was just a bit of confusion in like
this idea of pay rise is actually little bit annoying
because they were saying I'm getting a really good pay rise
because I'm jumping from like bad.
Wanda Bantu and obviously there will be, you know, some sort of
inflationary pressure, rise on that as well.
Which feels like a good pay rise but I think we need to stop
confusing this idea of moving through the band's within your
job. That's a different kind of pay
rise to the inflationary. Pay rise for people that are on
the same band like that. That's a very different thing
and it should fill it should be even bigger.
You know, you should have you should have both.
I think you've just absolutely hit the nail on the head there,
because we have progression in paying our jobs because we're
more experienced. We have more more ability to
kind of deal with children gets better.
And we're trusted more as we get more and more years behind us in
the profession. So that that progression is
completely separate to inflation.
You're absolutely right. So yeah, they're going to get a
pay rise. Absolutely.
But that's not just the way they show data, it's just so
disingenuous. Yeah.
So yeah, I think I agree that argument when I saw that.
I thought Hayden will have a field day here because that's
not how inflation works. Yeah, I like the Tories though.
Isn't it too? Sort of complaint data, got a
user, the big pick out the best bits to push their agenda.
That's just strange. Don't normally see that the
really annoys me because just on a side note they said in prime
minister's questions, Ritchie sooner was saying, it's the
largest increase in pay for 30 years and I was just saying,
cool, should we put that in the context of the last 12?
Yes, i-i'll call. It's also the largest rise in
inflation, so it's kind of irrelevant.
Yeah, it's like yeah, if you were to take inflation as a
percentage and take away the It's rise.
It's actually the biggest it with honesty.
So nice one. Oh man, just a classic case of
using data to back up your argument and being disingenuous
it's just snide it's Sneaky and it's what they're really, really
good at and it works for them. That's the problem.
It does and you know, as you can see from these arguments so
let's go on to number three ready?
Yep, yep. We're doing this person to be
from. Well, you kind of shot me with
the the the Posh woman somewhere up north, you know, go back to
your roots. Yeah.
Yeah, true. I mean just for anyone listening
I am a northerner at harm and it sound like it.
Okay, what word, the odd word that comes out, as Northern
gone. It's 111 instead of one rant
one. And I'm just gonna have a Bryant
that's like super, super Posh. It's like, I know what every
time you say. I can't take you seriously
going, right? Let's get this.
Have a rant. So the next one.
Okay, you got to like this song enough.
I'm not. 13 weeks off each year, a good pension, I can't believe
it. Oh man, two things ready?
I'm going to summarize this real quick holidays aren't paid.
We just have our pay spread across the year and not paid.
So please stop using that I can make three points.
I lied, second point is, if you take all the hours, a teacher
works. In the year, it's still more
hours and most people work in a year.
It's just we have 13 weeks holiday.
Those hours are just more condensed and my third Point,
pensions. They have been massively
massively. What's the word I'm looking for?
Not scrapped, but made much worse over the last 12 years.
Pensions used to be way better. They're still good.
Pensions, don't get me wrong but they were better.
Yeah, they used to be and I believe it was Final salary,
right? Yeah.
So you would work your way up the scale and then wherever you
want, find a salary. That would be a pension.
And just a quick note here, and I agree with what you're saying
because now, it's an average salary the way it works.
Is one 57th or whatever you earn in a year.
Yeah that goes on to your pension basically.
So every time for example you only 30,000 pounds, I think it's
something like over that year, you earned 500 pounds a year for
your pension. And the next year of your own
32,000 pounds, you might earn an extra five hundred fifty pounds
your pension every year. So if you retired, then your
pension would be 1000 whatever that be one thousand and fifty
pounds every year. So you're getting an average is
not final salary anymore, so if you'll get somewhere in the
middle, so there was a lot of backlash.
That but also its kind of this. There's two points I want to
make here number one is just because some things in the job
are good or above average, it doesn't mean that you then just
ignore the bits that are really detrimental to you providing the
care that you need. Especially in something as
important as looking after children.
This the, you know, it's a really important job and we're
not trying to say other jobs are less important or more
important. But if there's a problem with
it, someone pointing at something that's okay, in the
system, doesn't really cut it as an argument.
And the other thing I wanted to to say was and maybe you can
answer this. Hey Adam if the 13 weeks off
each year in the pension so amazing.
Why aren't there more teachers? Yeah, not not.
Even just that is like the teacher rate is dropping and
dropping and dropping struggling to recruit new teachers.
So yeah, if it is so desirable as people like to point out with
these amazing weeks. Yeah.
Like where are the teachers then?
Absolutely. I think it was a 40% below.
The target for newly qualified teachers car.
Something along those lines. Yeah that anti know what's
crazy. What's bad about that as well.
If you think about it, the government having a real push to
the minute to say, starting salaries.
They're going up by 10%. You're going to start to 30
grand soon. That was a big 2019, Manifesto
pledge for the Tories. It's not come in yet because
they say because of covid etcetera.
But, you know, they're really, really trying to get people
through the door and it's not working.
And you need to compound that with how many teachers leave the
profession. Within three or five years.
It's just actually saw someone on Facebook really recently
genuinely just quoting the exact thing they were like I was
promised this salary and it's just not true.
They're really annoyed and probably quit immediately.
I don't know what happened, but it did make me laugh.
Yeah, retention is a big issue one-fifth of teachers.
Quit in the first three years, one-third of teachers, quit in
the first five years. Can you just imagine how much
money out of their own pocket? They spent to train to be a
teacher in University 9,000 pound a year.
They do it for less than 5 years and say, nope, not worth it.
They take that debt on and it's such a dire situation that they
don't even bother carrying on with depression.
Yep. It's not too crazy and people
will ignore that point because it doesn't fit their agenda.
So so moving swiftly on to them. Moving swiftly on, I've got a
few more. So let's go for this one.
If you don't like it that much mate, we're back to London by
the way. If this guy has a fair few
arguments, if you don't like it that much power, why don't you
get another job? I actually had this argument
made to me recently, I'm not going to say who, but it was
genuine for someone in my family.
Making this argument to me. I was so enraged and my
response. It was I didn't I tried not to
get too involved my but my response was simply cool.
Well, if we all take that advice, good luck having any
teachers or nurses because it was kind of about like it the
whole public sector. I just what a stupid argument.
Like, I respect the idea that someone might want to go and get
another job and and work up a different ladder and have a
different pay opportunities. That's cool with me.
I love that, but it doesn't work for everyone.
You can't say to every single teacher, just yeah, we'll go get
it. Job then then you'll have no
teachers. Will you so don't that's not the
solution to the problem. We need to fix the actual issue
with teaching, make it a desirable job, it really reminds
me of this this mean that was going around and it was this
conservative guy in America. I remember his name but he was
giving a speech and there they were talking about rising sea
levels, right? So one of the students said,
look, our Coastal area, are coastal town within x amount of
years, due to, you know, climb, It change which the guy was
trying to refute basically say, oh, it's not a problem, either
to think about it due to climate change, our houses will be under
water water within within 30 years or something.
And the guy just respond saying, yeah, well you know, if that
happens just sell them and in the mean, was someone coming in
saying to who there are underwater?
Like I know exactly what you're talking about.
I live on the internet, I've seen this Meme and I believe he
says to who Aquaman Classic classic example of that.
Just that backwards thinking, there's not a real solution.
It might be on an individual level to like, one or two people
that manage to do that, but it doesn't work.
Yeah, okay, I've got one more, I've got one more because this,
this was interesting to me because there were a few points
I want to make, but I want to see what you say.
We're going to Scotland for this one.
Ready. They earn more than the average
worker. They should be quite content
with that. That's very good.
I didn't listen to a word you said, because I was just
listening to your accent. Could you say again?
But with a more thick accent. Right.
That's good. Because you can understand it
the first place. Yeah, but now I'm going to
listen to it. Now, this is just for that, this
just for estimating, they earn more than the average worker.
They earn more than me. And I work hard, they should be
happy. This is actually really tough
one. And I don't get to actually,
don't get too annoyed at this one because I think it's really
easy to just very quickly lose empathy, for other people
because Lee. The reality is, a lot of people
are in dire conditions in this country and they don't even have
unions sometimes to back them up and they're just stuck.
So, I kind of understand why these people might get a bit
better because they see someone in a better position and like
fighting for more. And they can't even fight for
more and they're not getting paid as much like I get it.
I absolutely agree. And this is, this is why I
wanted to bring this one up because I really, really, really
want people to understand that we do have empathy.
Yeah, we do understand that. And honestly, what I would say
to this is we just look at what happened this week during the
strikes, look at how many hundreds of thousands of other
people from other professions. Look at every other job that
have gone on strike lately and even then look at the jobs that
have even worse conditions and worse pay them teachers have.
Now look, I know we have University degrees.
I know we are trained Professionals in certain in this
job, which is a very specific job.
Which is highly skilled, tricky and important.
But the you cannot look down on someone and say their job is any
less important. Look at covid with the key
workers who were the people that kept the country running, right?
Yeah. The teachers, provided some care
for the key workers, but who are the key workers, who did who
picked up all of the, the bins every single week still, when
there are no protector, there's no protection before, any
vaccines or anything. We're not buying food and shops.
Are we without people? You still working there.
You know. I agree.
So are speaking to some people who work in a retail near me
recently. I've got quite a few friends
that work in retail and they're actually saying although they
don't really have that kind of Union support and yeah, they're
not they're not being paid as much in that profession
generally when these strikes happen and when pay does
actually change, it does lift up the private sector as well.
Because obviously, the private sector is very competitive.
So if they have terrible, terrible pay compared to other
places people are going to leave.
So pay does generally In these places like it, when teachers
strike, or when the, you know, the union strike from any public
sector. It's not just them that will
benefit from any positive changes.
It does kind of spread out to the other sectors, as well.
And I think that's really important for people to
understand. Yeah, it's not isolationist,
right? It's not just, and what it can
turn into is a race to the bottom, and it could be about us
fighting each other, right? Do you think the Amazon worker
and I we have more in common as teachers to an Amazon worker.
We do as teachers to the, the big cats in the city.
To the ultra-rich, we are much closer to these people.
We are essentially working class were no longer, it's no longer
really a middle-class job. Teachers can't afford a house.
If they've just starting out, you know, you need to have dual
income. You need to have support from
parents. It's no longer traditionally
middle class, even we just got a certain education level, a
certain level of qualification, you know.
I'm a bit of a Facebook Warrior, right?
You know, better keyboard Warrior, you know, this, you
know, this is just that To get into heated debates online
because I grew up in that generation.
But anyway, right, I was talking to someone recently, who was
like really cool. They were really supportive of
the teacher strikes and they're kind of reasoning was if we make
the profession more desirable then we will attract.
Skilled people who will uplift the education system, a really
good quality argument for why we need better rights anyway in the
same breath this person. Then compare Lately just
slaughtered like the rail strikes and train train drivers
and things like this saying. It is disgusting.
But these people like, almost like, not even calling the
people Were Striking, how dare they, when they make so much
money strike for, you know, rights, all these basic things
called REITs. And I, and, and I think that is
just is exactly what you were saying about.
It's a race to the bottom, like just because they are a bit
more. That is irrelevant.
Now, they're there. Now scum because actually, they
don't earn as a Well, as me, so I'm an Outlaw strike because I
need more. Absolutely.
And you know, that's case in point with the rmt, right?
The majority of people they're striking for are even still the
low, paid workers the cleaners, the people who work at the
station's. The drivers were a part of it
and they're entitled to strike and get an inflationary payroll.
So they want to maintain their lifestyle because that's that.
What pay they get? It's irrelevant.
But you know, that's just classic right wing media, using
that latching onto it. Oh, train drivers on this, they
only reason they're reporting. That is to undermine them and
it's the same when they say, teachers aren't on.
Is 42,000 pounds a year, the main pay scale of teaching.
If you're just a classroom teacher goes to 38,000 pounds,
how can you sit there and say the average pay for a teacher is
42,000 pounds. The, you are fudging the numbers
again. I'm sure there's some maths
where you can justify it somehow, but it is not an
accurate representation and they're doing it politically
motivated. Well, as that we've got, got any
more for me, I can take it now. Yeah, that'll do for now.
Well, well, well played. I liked about that was a nice
discussion, there was one other thing.
Want to just chat back quickly and it's something I've noticed,
you know, we're part of Facebook groups for the teachers.
We've got active in them sometimes and we see arguments
and back and forth and then was an element of toxicity and my
say, at some points between those who are striking and knows
who went and just the idea of teacher versus teacher, actually
at each other's throats different ideologies, different
reasons for doing stuff. And I just wanted to get your
take on on that kind of friction and wear.
Where you stand on that. You know, do you as such as a
striker or both strike? Do you feel at all?
That way, towards some people who have chosen not to strike,
for example, you know what? It's hard not to and I do I feel
like a bit of a child when I do this because I, you know, I, you
know, we try not to generalize but I do feel maybe a little bit
bitter, perhaps, I just don't understand some reasons but like
I feel like I haven't yet. Heard a really strong reason not
to strike. That can't be kind of quite
quickly and easily like retaliated.
Do you know what I mean? Okay, so you got me a mean and
maybe I can throw a couple at you and just see what you think.
Okay, so really big one at the minute.
It's the literal reason we're striking.
It's called pay up because we want an inflationary pay rice.
Just they can't afford to take the hit on their pay.
Yeah. Like when when I first heard
that I was like yeah that's a really valid point.
Actually it sucks because you know You know the whole point is
yeah, maybe if we had better pay conditions this you wouldn't be
able to take a day. So it's kind of ironic but also
the unions are there to support those people.
They will support you that they've got massive schemes, you
can apply for funding for that day.
If you really need it like you can still support the strikes.
I think from my point of view, I agree.
The big thing for me is I absolutely 100%.
I was always going to strike I, I believe it fully.
But what I will say is that I do I actually completely and
utterly respect the individuals choice to strike or not.
And at the end of the day and I'm sure you'll agree deep down,
I know we will it's irrelevant. Whether we agree with their
decision or not it's irrelevant whether we think their reasons
are Justified or not. They have the right to not
strike and they don't have to. But there is a line and I'll
explain this line and I see if it's any different for you.
Someone deciding not to strike. But understands.
All right, equally back, if they don't strike, they're going to
work, they do their job and then they go home, they teach their
class, they go home, they got paid, we're all back in.
We're colleagues. We got on with each other.
Absolutely, no hard feelings. They understand why we did it.
We understand that they have the right to do that to, which is
absolutely fine. The line for me is, if a teacher
has chosen not to strike and then maybe is undermining one of
their colleagues, Eggs by going in and covering a class to me,
that's a different line. It's an active Choice.
What do you think? Yeah.
Like there's two layers to it, isn't there?
If you are truly in the position where you could have, just not
done that, then I do, I don't really like that position.
It does make me feel like it is a bit undermining, but I do also
understand that. Like, you and I quite Bowl, she
didn't like we're, you know, we're quite confident generally
when we were in school, maybe just from years of work in the
profession, but a lot of people aren't idea.
Forget that sometimes A lot of people, like, even people are
doing this strike, it was a huge move for them.
And they've probably spent the whole day feeling really nervous
about what their colleagues think, what their, what, their
bosses think, you know? And, and I reckon some people
are probably in that same sort of position that aren't
striking. And they just think, I don't
really want to do this. But I also, this is my boss
telling me to go and cover this class, you know?
So I think we just have to kind of understand that side of the
coin as well. Yeah, you're right.
And it, you know, it's about maintaining that balance of your
relationships at work, right? Because even from the point of
view of heads have been directly instructed by the government to
do, everything they can to open school for as many children as
possible. And that's manifested itself, in
lots of different ways across the country.
Some schools had to close some schools, managed to find ways to
open. Even when most of the staff Were
Striking, and as someone who did take part in the strike, I felt
that my first reaction was slight annoyance at those
schools who had really gone out of their way above and beyond to
get as many of the children in the school as possible, simply
because it kind of felt like it was undermining the fact that
we're taking a pay cut to take strike action.
Yeah and you know up until recently covering wasn't even a
thing that was accepted when it comes to strikes, that's the
idea of a strike, you're withholding your labor and that
destruction is the reason you're striking.
So, you know, cover is a massive The strike action that kind of
in a way, nullifies it in the first place, whilst still losing
your paper, taking part in strike action, but I just think
the more, the more you think about it.
I obviously want what's best for the children.
I would not be a teacher otherwise.
So if you're telling me that children got to go to school,
see their friends being a safe environment and especially
vulnerable children. I think that subjectively a good
thing and I don't suddenly think that's a bad thing just because
I voted to strike. So there's that two parts in the
head, I think being able to compartmentalize those two
things. Things and understand that both
of them can be valid and the same person hold both of youse.
I think that really helped me to actually just say I'm striking.
I'm doing it for this reason and it didn't really affect me them
and what happened from then on. Yeah, I think so.
I wonder if King, Charles will will ring in, give us that they
back, you know, completely negate it.
How about on? Yeah, on that day.
Yeah, we get the choice to go into school or not.
No. Yeah.
For the children for the children's sake, we're going to
go in now as teachers article on, but obviously that is so we
can't argue. Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely can't miss a single day of school unless I
man's getting a Golden Crown on his head.
So, this might be a little bit challenging Dylan, but I hope
I'm hoping you can rise to this in sort of summary.
What would be your key? Takeaway?
Like, what would be your key point that you'd like the
listeners to sort of consider or think about?
Now about everything? We discussed two strikes, I'll
probably say one or two things in this, but I'll try to be
succinct, and put into a sentence for me.
These strikes are about the longevity of our profession.
And the fact we really care about these kids, we cannot keep
going what's been happening for the last 12 years to our budget
is unreal. And yes, we're asking for a pay
rise and yes, it's a high amount that the unions have gone in
for, but that's supposed to be the start of a negotiation,
which the government just don't seem bothered to do.
They've got their decision to just going with it but from our
point of view, why have we gone on strike?
It is to help the children in the long term.
No one is a teacher for the fun of it.
We were going to carry on working long hours.
We're going to carry on putting our heart and soul into the job
to give the children the best chance possible but it can't
happen unless we are funded properly.
And the biggest part of this strike action for me, the thing
that really really pushed me over the edge was that it's all
about it being funded if teachers A pay rise that's in
line with inflation, but it has to come from the school's
existing budget. That is not good enough.
We are not just endlessly greedy looking for 11 more, money
ourselves, no teacher would accept that because provision
for children would go down. It would dip, we need more money
in our schools so that we can deliver quality education care,
and support for every single child and attract.
The best Educators. I think would be the only thing
I'd add to that. That is, you know there is so
much More to my pocket and your pocket in a pay rise.
So pay up government. It's not just for me it's for
the kids. It's for the whole educational
Community. It's what needs to be done.
So as far as far as podcast go Hayden, pretty heavy one, would
you agree? Yeah.
Big time considering when we were thinking about doing a
podcast we were like, hey let's make a really fun like silly
educational thing. And we were like, yeah, let's
will start with the hardest, hardest hitting topic, ever.
Well, you know why? Because it was in the news and
it's what really matters, passionate didn't.
And we actually wanted to get its message out.
So this is the start of our podcast next week.
We will be back and it might be a little bit more.
Lighthearted. What do you think we should go
for hours? And I talked about the lack of
Prince sticks in my cupboard. Exact.
That's what the people want to hear.
No one was here about strikes. We do, let's talk about the fact
that we have one print stick per 30 children.
Yeah. And we'll blame the government.
No, no, no. We're not going to go there,
we've done it. We've done that Justice today.
All right, that could be a feature of our podcast, you
know, blame the government. I can think of a little jingle.
Blaming the government for another thing.
I'm going to make this into a jingle.
I'm going to take this audio clip guys, you will see this
again. Thank you for listening, see you
next time. Exact.
That's what the people want to hear.
No one was here about strikes. We do, let's talk about the fact
that we have one print stick per 30 children.
Yeah. And we'll blame the government.
No, no, no. We're not going to go there,
we've done it. We've done that Justice today.
All right, that could be a feature of our podcast, you
know, blame the government. I can think of a little jingle.
Blaming the government for another thing.
I'm going to make this into a jingle.
I'm going to take this audio clip guys, you will see this
again. Thank you for listening, see you
next time.