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Head over. 
Ohh. 

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Come back to that episode ohh. 
He might hang on, hang on, Just.

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A minute. 
My name is Dylan. 

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Hello. 
Hang on guys. 

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Go on, I'm ready now. 
Yeah. 

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OK. 
Hi, everyone. 

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Right. 
Don't explain to the views what 

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just happened. 
No, the viewers, the listeners, 

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No, not really. 
Every single week before we 

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start because obviously, as you 
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every week. 
Meet me as quickly as I can 

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saying hello everyone. 
And I say to Hayden, Are you 

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ready? 
And he goes, Yeah. 

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And then I start talking and he 
immediately bends over to grab 

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his water, his mouth obviously a
metre away from the mic there, 

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not ready to say my name is 
Hayden and we have to stop. 

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So he decided this week my name 
is Hayden. 

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That's the problem. 
I don't understand the problem 

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here. 
I think this is a good start. 

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I I do too. 
I always think in my head of new

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listeners. 
I know we have a lot of 

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returning listeners. 
I just always think of new 

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listeners going. 
No, I am. 

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A parent teacher. 
This is episode sounds 

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interesting balancing the being 
a parent and teaching. 

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I'll click on this I reckon. 
That doesn't matter. 

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I reckon they listen through 
that because it's funny, and 

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then they stop listening when 
you know what a spray bottle is.

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Drip that. 
Guys, last week you listened. 

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Dylan didn't know what a spray 
bottle was. 

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You described it as something 
like ohh yeah, you put the 

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pressure in. 
The pressure pushes all this 

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water out. 
What will he come up with today?

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I couldn't remember the word for
a spray. 

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Bottle So I just described what 
happened in one. 

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It's alright. 
I've had a week away with you 

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and it's been great because I 
get to see I just have a bit 

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more insight into you all the 
time. 

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And you are you are like a 
walking meme. 

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You're just funny. 
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Like the fact that the fact that
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then and then you found them at 
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The old story. 
You lost the keys right where 

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the bike was locked up and then 
we had to give the bikes back at

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the end of our centre parks trip
and obviously one of his bikes 

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to him and he couldn't find the 
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It I didn't know what it was. 
And we joked, we, we, we joked 

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whilst we were there, like, ohh,
it's, it's probably in some of 

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Dylan's clothes that have been 
packed away because that's 

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Dylan. 
That's just classic him. 

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No, no, no, it wasn't. 
It wasn't got home. 

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It was literally in his shorts 
pocket. 

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I felt, I felt a bump in my 
shorts. 

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I was like, well, I'll just take
that. 

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Wear the shorts again. 
And then I put the short time so

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funny. 
So it was in a ones that I 

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packed away. 
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We'd unpacked everything and 
obviously a bunch of the shorts,

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but I wore them for like half a 
day and I was like, why them 

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again? 
So put them on and I was 

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bumping. 
I was just playing with Rory and

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I said, well, just take that 
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And what is it was geese that we
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in the morning. 
But you know, I'm glad he got an

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insight into my life. 
Do you want to be careful 

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because people are listening to 
this? 

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Who? 
I'm not sure they are. 

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Who did go back to work last 
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They've had a whole week at 
work. 

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So yeah, are we gonna pretend 
that we also went back to work 

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or we gonna just massively talk 
now for 10 minutes about our 

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holiday? 
We. 

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Had. 
I think we should rub it in 

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their faces. 
Yeah. 

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But we had an extra week off. 
We did, and that's probably the 

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right thing. 
To do so, we went in the box 

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who's been Centre parks. 
There's no, because I've never 

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now I have raised his hand for 
anyone listening, don't know 

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what to expect. 
And it was actually, it was 

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really quite good. 
It was really good. 

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Yeah, it was really good. 
It was really nice. 

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I think we had low expectations,
probably more because of the 

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fact that we were taking our 
6:00 and 8:00. 

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Months for me because you were 
going. 

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This guy is going to be 
annoying. 

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Yeah, yeah, I had very low 
expectations. 

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I thought if I don't wanna big 
up too much and and be like, oh,

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we're gonna do all these things 
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we're gonna get there, we're 
just gonna be nap trapped 

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constantly by our children. 
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weren't they? 
Got on with it and we kind of 

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got around their naps. 
Yeah, I thought. 

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We just they just let them nap 
when they. 

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Felt sorry for Rory though when 
I got home when I was chatting 

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to my parents obviously 
afterwards and I was right and I

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was like I don't really know. 
Poor boy got no attention 

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because River was just so loud 
and annoying all the time. 

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I even. 
Blessed. 

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She's not annoying. 
She was annoying restaurants. 

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The restaurant she was. 
She doesn't stop. 

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She's just like I'm constantly 
moving around. 

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Yeah, she's constantly moving. 
It's hilarious. 

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Ohh Paul Rory blessing we just 
say really nicely and his pram 

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just like that's OK mummy and. 
Daddy, get your dinner. 

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I guess the difference is we 
parent properly so. 

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That's it, isn't it? 
That was a running joke. 

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It's weird because what we do is
we just, we just tell our 

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eight-month old don't do that. 
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He doesn't. 
And then you must just let your 

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six month old run, right? 
Yeah, I do. 

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Yeah, she's running around the 
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Yeah, she's knocking the door 
down at the. 

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Moment, yeah, we're gonna talk 
about parenting in this episode.

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We'll leave that for now, but 
any talk about syntax? 

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Bit more can I say one of my 
highlights. 

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Yeah, one of my highlights, I'll
go back, one of my highlights 

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was every single time we booked 
something. 

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You having no idea how anything 
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That was fun. 
So the 15th time, so we like 

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we'd, we'd booked all this stuff
and we went to, we went to the 

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table tennis, which we have to 
book, obviously you have to book

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a table tennis table. 
And so I went out, paid for it, 

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got the paddles and stuff. 
Anyway, So, and we, we just, we 

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just stop when we want. 
Do we, Hayden, you know 

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everything else in this place 
where you have to book a time 

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slot because then the next 
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Slot. 
Well, she didn't say. 

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Do you think that we just stay 
on the for the is no, OK, no 

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clarify with the? 
Person I wouldn't they don't 

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tell me you go there you go, 
there you go. 

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Enjoy your on table. 3 scuse me 
these three is a £20, so I 

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assume that's a lot of get me 
started on the features mental, 

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but 20 everything at Centre 
Parks is extremely expensive. 

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Yeah, extremely expensive. 
So Hayden didn't understand 

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that. 
So when it was the 19th time of 

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buying something expensive, he 
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something. 
Do that because it's quite 

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expensive. 
Stepping into play is wrong with

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what? 
No, Hayden, Everything's just 

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the more expensive. 
Here, listen, right there it 

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goes deeper than that, right? 
Well, was that was that this 

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restaurant was. 
Messy. 

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Guana, that's a guana as 
Mexican. 

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And most meals were like £15. 
They weren't 1516 quid. 

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They were, they were. 
And this one, the ones packed 

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with rice, which is like 50 
kilos, Yeah, not, not the ones 

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that come with like two piece of
dip and tortillas and Tesco's 

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the one I got. 
So the fajita stack was like 21 

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quid and I was like, hey, that's
going to be, that's clearly 

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going to be more then there's 
like 5-6. 

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More, it was 19. 
Pounds. 

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It wasn't it wasn't, it was a 
very very small tray of chicken 

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but we got stopped at the bottom
anyway because they put on some 

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boiling things like it says ohh 
sizzling. 

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Can't eat it though can I cause 
it's now stuck to it. 

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My favourite dinners are the 
ones that aren't actually cooked

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yet and still cook on your 
table. 

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Right. 
Yeah, they burn in front of you.

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It was just a joke. 
It was an absolute joke. 

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But one thing that was a 
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Highlight you tried to say 5 
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What was the and you enjoyed 
this as well? 

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So me and Dylan have not been 
eating sugar? 

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No, but this week. 
Well, can we not talk about 

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ourselves with the same boat 
here? 

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Like me and Dylan have both been
not eating sugar. 

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So just a bit of clarification. 
I I did it for five months, 

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you've done it for about 5. 
Weeks. 

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No. 
About 3 months in. 

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You know what is it? 
No. 

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No. 
I'm's. 

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Easter. 
No. 

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When was Easter? 
No, that was that was one time 

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ago, that six weeks ago. 
Ohh, I've gone about two months,

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two months, two months with no 
sugar. 

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But for this all day we were 
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ourselves. 
So, so obviously we took 

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advantage of that because we're 
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So we completely took advantage 
of that and we ate 27 Krispy 

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Kreme doughnuts. 
Come on. 

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Between us and our partners. 
Yeah, but still we had, we 

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bought three boxes of Krispy 
Kreme doughnuts within the four 

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days. 
They're bloody good. 

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Though they were really good. 
Bloody no, I'll do it again. 

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Yeah, it didn't. 
Weird though, because when we 

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came to buy that, Hayden didn't 
go to the cashier. 

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Well, actually there's a lot of 
doughnuts here. 

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I just bring something down, 
that's all. 

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That I'm used to them being 
expensive. 

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I'm not used to my chicken 
fajitas and Tesco tortilla 

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wraps. 
Bring 20 lbs. 

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It did go into Tesco and when we
got back and I saw the Krispy 

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Kremes there and I had a little 
look. 

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They are less expensive here 
still. 

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I know it's Krispy Kreme and I 
think they just bump up. 

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Yeah, I don't even. 
I actually at no point, Jack. 

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We're paying for those Donuts. 
I didn't want to point, you 

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know, paying £9 on table tennis.
Do we get to play table tennis 

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long? 
We want to make no pounds for 

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this table tennis table. 
I assume we get to play it until

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we don't want to play it 
anymore. 

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What's that 16 LB for 12 donors?
Thank you. 

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See you later. 
Ohh whatever, whatever. 

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How are the Rapids? 
Ohh, the Rapids. 

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Well, wait a minute. 
The Rapids. 

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The number one draw to Elvedon 
Centre Parks, where everyone 

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beforehand said which centre 
should go to, and they were all 

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like to Aldi's amazing. 
Oh my God, you need to go there 

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because the Rapids are so good. 
Yeah, those closed all week. 

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Yeah. 
Really annoying. 

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Really annoying. 
Literally closed all week. 

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When is it closed? 
We're here from Monday to 

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Friday, so let's close Monday to
Friday. 

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Ohh. 
Right. 

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So you didn't think to just put 
that over, you know, like a 

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period of maybe like Thursday to
Sunday? 

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Yeah, two people might be. 
Paying and they get like this 

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start and the end of their 
holiday. 

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No, none of those do the whole 
week that we're there. 

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So we got some conversation 
though. 

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Yeah, yeah, completely 
pointless. 

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Yeah, we got they were like ohh,
really sorry about that. 

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Here's a day pass to come to 
pass. 

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A day pass is 3 hours away. 
Mate, we're not going to come 

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for a day. 
Are we gonna come for a day? 

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We are going to come for a day 
for a 45 minute table tennis 

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session, which Hayden still 
understand. 

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It's the table tennis free when 
I get here, no? 

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Can stay possible then yeah, 
that's not going to. 

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Pass it literally just to get in
because that would be. 

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Yeah, I don't know. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Go, go. 
And we're not paying for 

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accommodation. 
Yeah, and you can come through 

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the gate. 
Thank. 

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You hello before you on the 
swimming. 

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What's your room number? 
We don't have on all. 

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We can't then. 
Large number. 

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That's the other thing it every 
time. 

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Every time we bought something. 
So we're in the shop and you buy

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something and they go lodge 
number, please. 

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And the first like three or four
times through role play we will.

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Yeah. 
But the first, the first three 

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or four times we were like, I 
just ignored it and I was like, 

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you just do it. 
You didn't think about it. 

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Then I thought about it and we 
got to the till, so let's do the

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role play now. 
So I've got to the tail. 

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I'm just checking. 
I'm just telling you. 

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Stuff. 
I think we're gonna go with the 

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whole bit of shop. 
Yeah. 

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What you need for dinner, 
Hayden? 

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We need chicken. 
OK, well we just walked past the

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stricken. 
Why you talking here, discussing

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with me when you're? 
I'll play you and Aiden next. 

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You carry on, you do your bit to
me. 

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Right here we go. 
Thank you very. 

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Much. 
Hi there. 

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You're right. 
Do you want it back? 

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No, we don't need the back. 
OK, £400 if you'd like one 

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anyway. 
Doughnuts there number please. 

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And yeah, it's it's 967. 
What? 

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Sorry, just to click on 
swinging. 

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Why? 
Why do you take the? 

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I'm gonna break in a minute. 
Sorry, Sorry. 

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What was that? 
Sorry, just wondering why do you

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take the large number? 
Ohh, it's just, it's so we can 

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just like check stock, stock 
count and all that sort of 

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stuff. 
Yeah, alright, that's weird. 

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Because that's £22.40. 
Thank you. 

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OK. 
Ohh. 

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Alright then, I'm not really 
satisfied with that answer, but 

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I'll just pay and then go off 
and we finished. 

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We walked off and then had them 
like went are we right in 

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thinking that the the number of 
the lodge that we're staying in 

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doesn't affect whether they need
to restock that chicken? 

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Tomorrow I know nothing to do 
with restocking. 

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Absolutely so. 
Straight away I was just like, 

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it's marketing. 
They're gonna sell that 

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information because they know 
who's staying at Lodge and if 

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they've seen it, we've got 27 
Krispy Kreme Donuts. 

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Then they're obviously going to 
be like. 

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Well, these guys, well, what did
I say on my Facebook like 

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within? 
An hour? 

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No, it's like, was that was it? 
That was that evening you had a 

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Krispy Kreme advert and he 
hadn't searched. 

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He just literally, I actually 
genuinely never buy them. 

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Yeah, that was like a treat 
there. 

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So I never seen that. 
Before I got here, Yeah, it's 

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crazy. 
So then we went back the next 

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day and asked someone else who 
was clearly less you know? 

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I'm sorry. 
Are we. 

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There we go. 
Hey, love. 

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Yeah, you're right. 
Yeah, very good. 

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Thank you. 
Just go. 

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Can I all kind of page number? 
Yeah, Yes, 967. 

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But just wondering not ask this 
to anyone yet at all. 

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Just for the first time 
wondering why do you take that 

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large number? 
Oh, it's just for marketing 

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reasons. 
Thank you. 

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And then we went. 
So that is literally the first 

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one lied to us or didn't know 
and just guessed. 

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Yeah, but at least guess 
something logical that makes 

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sense because the stock control,
so we know how much chicken to 

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stock into your fridge and your 
lodge. 

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What? 
Matt, my, my team, my highlight,

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my highlight was after months 
and months of obviously we, we, 

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we go to each other's houses 
quite a lot. 

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We have dinner and stuff, but 
always the babies need to go to 

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bed. 
So you know, we have to leave at

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certain point. 
You know, Rory's bedtime has 

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been about 6:00. 
So that's usually the cut off on

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me. 
We'll go off. 

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Or if you're at ours, maybe 
you'll stay a bit later cause 

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rivers just up still, but then 
you have to go back for river. 

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And it's one of those things we 
didn't really think. 

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We thought, well, have babies is
lovely. 

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We spent some time together, but
we do lose our evenings where we

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just say, you know, have dinner,
then play some games, just 

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chatting, just get to a late 
one. 

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It didn't happen anymore. 
We had the baby. 

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Yeah. 
So we were like right centre 

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parks, banging. 
We're in the same place. 

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We've got the travel cots for 
the kids. 

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We put the kids down. 
Like both kids were down most 

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evenings by 8:00 at the latest. 
So we're like, are we having a 

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nice few evenings together? 
So how did that panned out? 

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Nice. 
Yeah, really good. 

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We took loads of games, actually
filled, struggled filling my car

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up because we had to get so many
games, yeah, to get there. 

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And yeah, we didn't. 
You didn't use a single. 

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One of them because exhausted. 
Everyday. 

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So we just, we just literally 
sat on the sofa and chatted 

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absolute rubbish for like 45 
minutes until one of us was too 

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tired and then when one went to 
bed we were like not in. 

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I think I would say we were all 
asleep probably. 

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I don't know you guys, but I was
definitely asleep within 15 

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minutes of going in my room and 
we weren't in on to our rooms by

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about 10. 
Ohh, yeah, yeah. 

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I I would say, I would say if 
someone knocked on our door at 

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half ten. 
No, I was like, yeah, yeah. 

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Just hilarious. 
So we literally have built up so

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much that we get some of our own
time finally. 

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And honestly, my, my Lauren came
in. 

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I was like, anyone actually want
to play a game? 

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I've got to say that you were no
absolutely anything worse. 

345
00:13:10,650 --> 00:13:13,340
No, you were laying on the floor
with your legs up or something. 

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We were just good. 
It was nice actually. 

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Really enjoyed just chilling out
and talking for a bit without 

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the kids. 
Around, yeah. 

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Sleep. 
Yeah, it was. 

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It was kind of nice and one mad 
thing that happened. 

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So we did say right, our school 
has this extra week off and most

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schools don't. 
I'm sure some other schools do. 

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The same I think I know one or 
two locally out of like 100. 

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And sometimes they do it in 
different half terms. 

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Anyway, I don't even get this 
week. 

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But we went away and was like, 
what's the chances we're going 

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to see someone? 
We know It was like because 

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realistically, if you're a kid 
and if your family in our 

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school, that is the week to go 
away and send the box is a 

360
00:13:43,620 --> 00:13:45,510
classic family. 
That's why we do it is cheaper, 

361
00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:47,390
Yeah. 
It makes absences less likely. 

362
00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,490
Yeah, exactly, exactly. 
Just it makes complete sense. 

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00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:51,300
So we thought, oh, we'll 
probably see some kids from our 

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school. 
Basically we didn't, we heard 

365
00:13:53,190 --> 00:13:55,500
that one there. 
But what we did bump into, what 

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we did, what we who we did bump 
into. 

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What we did? 
Is one of our teachers. 

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We had no idea. 
Literally one of our staff 

369
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members, our colleagues, went 
away. 

370
00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,270
Because we were swimming on the 
first day and we changing Rory 

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00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:07,040
and you. 
Everyone knows everyone's 

372
00:14:07,050 --> 00:14:08,110
teacher voice. 
Yeah, of course. 

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00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,210
And I just heard this voice from
like must have been like one or 

374
00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:12,370
two across from me. 
Yeah, yeah. 

375
00:14:12,380 --> 00:14:15,510
And I was like, that's it. 
That's our colleague, Saint 

376
00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,070
Laurent's colleague. 
And I saw you and I was like, 

377
00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,250
he's. 
Here I was like, Are you sure? 

378
00:14:18,260 --> 00:14:21,040
Here I I swear to you he's here.
So we spent like honest, like a 

379
00:14:21,050 --> 00:14:23,540
day and a half afterwards of me 
like really doubting myself. 

380
00:14:23,550 --> 00:14:26,010
I'm sure, I'm sure it was sure 
was him. 

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00:14:26,070 --> 00:14:27,750
And then he turned up and he was
like hello. 

382
00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,840
And I was like, and it must be 
really weird for him because he 

383
00:14:29,850 --> 00:14:31,920
walked up to me and said hello 
and I was like, you're here. 

384
00:14:31,930 --> 00:14:33,140
Like it was like. 
We knew it. 

385
00:14:33,150 --> 00:14:35,260
I knew it. 
We followed you here. 

386
00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:37,700
Yeah. 
So yeah, that was. 

387
00:14:38,090 --> 00:14:39,840
That was funny. 
That was funny yeah. 

388
00:14:39,850 --> 00:14:43,200
But yeah, that was sent box good
trip yeah, pretty solid 8 out of

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00:14:43,210 --> 00:14:45,260
10 yeah, would have been would 
have been 9 out of 10 with 

390
00:14:45,270 --> 00:14:47,720
Rapids, but I'd do it again. 
We we probably. 

391
00:14:47,730 --> 00:14:50,700
Will assuming that rappers are 
good, Yeah, one more thing 

392
00:14:51,370 --> 00:14:52,640
before we do a Jingle. 
Go on then. 

393
00:14:53,530 --> 00:14:56,360
We got a message this week from 
someone talking about how their 

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00:14:56,370 --> 00:14:58,180
school's doing a mock general 
election. 

395
00:14:58,470 --> 00:15:00,040
And at first I'm like, oh, 
that's interesting. 

396
00:15:00,050 --> 00:15:00,940
Yeah. 
I was like, that's really 

397
00:15:00,950 --> 00:15:03,160
interesting. 
How would they, would they, you 

398
00:15:03,170 --> 00:15:05,160
know, vote for Labour and the 
Conservatives? 

399
00:15:05,410 --> 00:15:08,830
No, but all it is, it's it's the
act of voting that they're 

400
00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,460
practising. 
And what's happening is if 

401
00:15:10,470 --> 00:15:12,940
you're a teacher, you can run to
be Prime Minister of the school.

402
00:15:13,370 --> 00:15:16,110
So. 
So the teachers, SO11 OHH, like 

403
00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,810
your assistant teachers and 
stuff, They, they're all putting

404
00:15:18,820 --> 00:15:20,980
their hat in the ring and 
someone messaged just tell us 

405
00:15:20,990 --> 00:15:23,460
about it and telling them their 
ideas and we had any ideas and 

406
00:15:23,470 --> 00:15:25,180
stuff like that. 
And that's such a cool idea to 

407
00:15:25,190 --> 00:15:26,670
get the kids engaged for the 
general election. 

408
00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,240
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
And because what they've got to 

409
00:15:28,250 --> 00:15:29,580
do is they've got to write a 
manifesto. 

410
00:15:29,690 --> 00:15:31,110
So they've got to come up with 
some ideas. 

411
00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,780
Yeah. 
But they have to be realistic. 

412
00:15:32,830 --> 00:15:37,630
And if they win a lie, yeah. 
Realistic, yeah. 

413
00:15:38,020 --> 00:15:41,290
We're not going to raise your 
expectations of your work at all

414
00:15:41,300 --> 00:15:43,330
for the whole duration of my 
parliament day one. 

415
00:15:43,340 --> 00:15:45,470
You need to do more. 
You need to do more work. 

416
00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,370
But yeah, she was saying how it 
like, if you win, you actually 

417
00:15:49,380 --> 00:15:51,230
implement your ideas and stuff 
like that. 

418
00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,710
And she was like, ohh, what? 
What's a realistic thing that 

419
00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,410
you could put in her manifesto 
that the kids would want to vote

420
00:15:57,420 --> 00:15:58,770
for? 
And I was really interesting 

421
00:15:58,780 --> 00:16:02,250
because I imagine some people 
might just go crazy and say 

422
00:16:02,260 --> 00:16:04,930
stuff which is completely not, 
you know, free pizza for 

423
00:16:04,940 --> 00:16:06,990
everyone every, every day during
maths. 

424
00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,060
And it's like, well, the kids 
obviously love that, but it 

425
00:16:09,070 --> 00:16:10,310
wouldn't be plausible. 
Yeah. 

426
00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,110
And it got me thinking, like, 
what would actually be a 

427
00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,300
realistic thing if you had to 
write a manifesto to be Prime 

428
00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:17,320
Minister for school and you had 
to get the kids on side so it's 

429
00:16:17,330 --> 00:16:19,600
not just their teacher where you
just think about outcomes and 

430
00:16:20,290 --> 00:16:23,280
literally to win votes from the 
children, but something that 

431
00:16:23,290 --> 00:16:24,630
could be implemented in the 
classroom. 

432
00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,200
I was like, oh. 
That's quite narrow actually, 

433
00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:27,520
Yeah. 
What's the budget for my 

434
00:16:27,530 --> 00:16:29,400
campaign? 
The budget all, let me just 

435
00:16:29,410 --> 00:16:31,560
check the school budget one 
second. 

436
00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,470
We've got no money whatsoever, 
so. 

437
00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,710
So just this is important. 
Like the real election? 

438
00:16:36,750 --> 00:16:39,370
Yeah, it's very important for my
campaign. 

439
00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:41,570
Well, I will. 
I get to use a big red bus or 

440
00:16:41,580 --> 00:16:44,720
not? 
How many of its privately funded

441
00:16:44,730 --> 00:16:46,100
and has a massive lie on the 
side? 

442
00:16:46,110 --> 00:16:47,440
OK, that's good. 
I will be. 

443
00:16:47,450 --> 00:16:50,780
I will be offering the pizza 
everyday to the kids. 350 

444
00:16:50,790 --> 00:16:52,520
million slices of pizza every 
single. 

445
00:16:52,530 --> 00:16:54,960
Day, single day. 
And then when someone questions 

446
00:16:54,970 --> 00:16:58,430
me about it after I've never 
happened, never happened. 

447
00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,120
That didn't happen. 
That didn't happen. 

448
00:17:00,130 --> 00:17:02,320
Did happen. 
OK, cool. 

449
00:17:02,330 --> 00:17:05,240
So, I mean, that's kind of cool.
Do you have an idea of what? 

450
00:17:05,329 --> 00:17:08,020
I didn't know. 
She mentioned that she's gonna 

451
00:17:08,030 --> 00:17:09,300
try and implement some golden 
time. 

452
00:17:09,310 --> 00:17:11,000
And I was like, why school 
doesn't have golden time? 

453
00:17:11,010 --> 00:17:12,700
That's a nice thing, isn't it? 
Like a 50 minute? 

454
00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:15,349
And the only thing I said was 
I'm trying to think of how to 

455
00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,010
win kids votes over. 
Hmm. 

456
00:17:17,050 --> 00:17:19,609
And something that's realistic. 
Kids love seeing their teacher 

457
00:17:19,619 --> 00:17:22,369
suffer in like a in like a, you 
know, in a horrible way. 

458
00:17:22,380 --> 00:17:23,569
But like, you know, silly. 
Yeah. 

459
00:17:23,579 --> 00:17:25,660
It might be like they get the 
chance to be the teacher for 20 

460
00:17:25,670 --> 00:17:27,710
minutes a week or something. 
You know, there's the roles 

461
00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,350
reversed a little bit, something
putting the teacher in a 

462
00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:31,320
situation where the kids are. 
In charge of the teacher and 

463
00:17:31,330 --> 00:17:34,020
everyone laughed until they get 
like really like ohh let me. 

464
00:17:34,030 --> 00:17:35,980
Out one of the kids ride the bus
through the playground. 

465
00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:37,200
That's his teachers, banned for 
life. 

466
00:17:37,210 --> 00:17:39,160
Yeah, yeah, that's part of it. 
And they never have. 

467
00:17:39,170 --> 00:17:39,540
Done it. 
Yeah. 

468
00:17:39,550 --> 00:17:40,390
Never did it. 
Never did it. 

469
00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,510
Yeah. 
When the police come, nothing 

470
00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,190
happened. 
OK, we're gonna ignore. 

471
00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,360
That cool? 
That was a nice idea that we 

472
00:17:44,370 --> 00:17:46,620
ruined. 
It was pretty cool. 

473
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:48,610
That's cool. 
And I want, I want to do 

474
00:17:48,620 --> 00:17:50,860
something with our school. 
I don't know what though. 

475
00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:53,180
I'm, I'm, I'm sure like in 
assemblies that we talked about,

476
00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:54,400
but it's a big thing, isn't it? 
It's. 

477
00:17:54,410 --> 00:17:56,530
Something, you know, you get 
caught doing that. 

478
00:17:56,540 --> 00:17:59,440
They're lefty teachers trying to
push their agenda. 

479
00:18:00,790 --> 00:18:06,360
I just want to pick on a on our 
Instagram, I've done a few anti 

480
00:18:06,370 --> 00:18:12,580
Tory reels just and it's, it's 
directly, it is anti Tory OK and

481
00:18:12,590 --> 00:18:14,600
it's not pro Labour and we 
talked about as many times it's 

482
00:18:14,610 --> 00:18:16,080
not pro greens, not pro 
anything. 

483
00:18:16,490 --> 00:18:19,120
But it is my personal opinion on
being anti Torii. 

484
00:18:19,130 --> 00:18:21,910
I have lived through a Tory 
government my whole adult life. 

485
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,400
I've seen austerity happen. 
I think things have got very 

486
00:18:24,410 --> 00:18:26,680
much worse and in in my 
professions, especially in 

487
00:18:26,690 --> 00:18:29,550
education, I think things are 
terrible compared to what they 

488
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,750
were 10-15 years ago. 
So my personal opinion is that I

489
00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,910
hate them and I want them to 
never be in power ever again. 

490
00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,670
So obviously I'm gonna do all I 
all I can to convince other 

491
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:38,690
people. 
That's my opinion. 

492
00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:40,610
Yeah, if you disagree with me, 
that's fine. 

493
00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,080
If you're wrong, but that's 
fine. 

494
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:43,790
No, I'm joking. 
Genuinely. 

495
00:18:43,860 --> 00:18:45,570
If you disagree with me, then 
whatever. 

496
00:18:45,580 --> 00:18:47,800
But I'm going to still say my 
opinion because that's important

497
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,450
on, on those posts. 
I have one person posted saying,

498
00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,610
well, I hope that this is not 
anything to do with your job, 

499
00:18:54,620 --> 00:18:56,590
but because actually it's 
illegal to say anything 

500
00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,170
political in the classroom. 
And I just, I did like a 

501
00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:03,080
civilised like reply like this 
is nothing to do with my job. 

502
00:19:03,090 --> 00:19:05,320
It's my first opinion. 
But what I really wanted to say 

503
00:19:05,330 --> 00:19:08,080
was like, shut up, shut. 
Up, yeah. 

504
00:19:08,090 --> 00:19:10,240
People random people on 
Instagram thinking they could 

505
00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:11,770
tell me what's important to do 
my job or not. 

506
00:19:11,780 --> 00:19:15,340
So I am not I'm not a bloody 
anti Tory. 

507
00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:18,400
I don't walk in and go. 
I bloody Tories in charge. 

508
00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:19,860
I've. 
Seen him do that. 

509
00:19:19,930 --> 00:19:23,690
Don't, don't, don't. 
I'm too busy going and teaching 

510
00:19:23,700 --> 00:19:26,590
them how to read so they can 
find out for themselves 

511
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,300
eventually. 
The Tories about this is the 

512
00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:31,190
labour market so. 
I'm just reading a bit of calm 

513
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,890
marks. 
But no, I don't bring politics 

514
00:19:34,900 --> 00:19:36,800
into the classroom. 
I don't think politics should be

515
00:19:36,810 --> 00:19:40,120
in the classroom remotely, no. 
And they can just work out 

516
00:19:40,130 --> 00:19:41,710
eventually themselves. 
Cause I'm gonna teach them to 

517
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:42,810
read. 
Do you know what to do? 

518
00:19:42,820 --> 00:19:44,390
Numbers. 
You teach them to do maths. 

519
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,830
Most people are left anyway when
they're growing up because they 

520
00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:48,410
are big, they're part of a 
society. 

521
00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:51,060
I don't know why actually, but 
most people are quite left, 

522
00:19:51,070 --> 00:19:52,040
aren't they? 
When they grow up. 

523
00:19:52,050 --> 00:19:54,430
When they're younger, usually. 
I think in most of my 

524
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,990
collections left there was a 
teacher Tapp survey that I saw 

525
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,960
which was from teachers. 
What's their political? 

526
00:20:02,180 --> 00:20:03,490
Outlook. 
So it was a poll but just 

527
00:20:03,500 --> 00:20:04,160
teaches. 
Yep. 

528
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,990
So currently Labour are on like 
40 to 45%, Tories are on 2025%. 

529
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,100
Something sure and reformer on 
like. 15 but in general, not 

530
00:20:12,110 --> 00:20:13,370
teachers. 
That's in general, yeah, that's 

531
00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:14,600
in general. 
And the teacher was really 

532
00:20:14,610 --> 00:20:16,780
interesting because it was 
pretty much exactly what I 

533
00:20:16,790 --> 00:20:18,960
thought. 
So Labour were running about 60 

534
00:20:18,970 --> 00:20:20,420
to 65%. 
Hmm. 

535
00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:22,460
Then it was like the Lib Dems on
10%. 

536
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:25,960
Then it was Green on like 5%. 
Like it was, it was those three 

537
00:20:25,970 --> 00:20:29,740
parties, the Tories and Reform 
are both less than 10%. 

538
00:20:29,790 --> 00:20:31,930
Yeah, like a good like 5% ish 
each. 

539
00:20:31,940 --> 00:20:33,060
Yeah. 
And I was like, yeah, that 

540
00:20:33,070 --> 00:20:35,180
pretty much that, that that is 
my experience. 

541
00:20:35,230 --> 00:20:37,540
You know, one in 25 Conservative
as a teacher. 

542
00:20:37,550 --> 00:20:39,320
That's about right I'd say. 
From what I've seen. 

543
00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:42,150
Get mad if I do find it. 
I do find it. 

544
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,370
Not bad, I just find it. 
I'd love to pick someone's 

545
00:20:44,380 --> 00:20:45,470
brains. 
They've got different. 

546
00:20:46,020 --> 00:20:48,740
As a teacher, but yeah, it's 
what especially someone's been 

547
00:20:48,750 --> 00:20:50,230
doing it a long time. 
I've been teaching for like 

548
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,170
10-15 years. 
I would be interested to be 

549
00:20:52,180 --> 00:20:53,970
like, what different priorities?
Yeah. 

550
00:20:53,980 --> 00:20:58,590
What do you like about it? 
Honestly, be interested in that 

551
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,710
from anyone. 
If someone's listening, right, 

552
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,290
and is is a conservative voter 
and is in education, can you 

553
00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,770
genuinely please get in touch 
with us and we just wanna talk? 

554
00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:10,850
Yeah, no, just a nice chat, like
down in your level, bend down, 

555
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,170
do some restorative talk, get 
them on side. 

556
00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:16,410
Yeah, be cool and I'll be 
interested. 

557
00:21:16,740 --> 00:21:19,600
I was just joking, pretending 
that we're gonna no, but I do 

558
00:21:19,610 --> 00:21:21,890
actually want to know because it
is genuinely interesting for me.

559
00:21:23,010 --> 00:21:24,510
Why you would do that, I don't 
know. 

560
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,470
Anyway, that's enough of that. 
That's a long intro. 

561
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,140
That's enough of that. 
Let's play the Jingle. 

562
00:21:28,150 --> 00:21:31,520
We'll talk about the fact we're 
heading into time, 6A little 

563
00:21:31,530 --> 00:21:34,240
Pollard on Instagram, and then 
we'll get into pole balancing, 

564
00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:35,670
parenting and teaching. 
Wow. 

565
00:21:37,790 --> 00:21:40,160
OK, Hayden, quick one between 
these two options. 

566
00:21:40,170 --> 00:21:42,480
Have you just come from the golf
course or are you just come from

567
00:21:42,490 --> 00:21:46,020
the sailing Boat Club? 
Actually I've just come from 

568
00:21:46,030 --> 00:21:47,150
work. 
Can I have your number please? 

569
00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:51,400
Hayden's wearing a very middle 
class polo right now. 

570
00:21:51,460 --> 00:21:53,050
That's that's right, that's 
right. 

571
00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:55,150
Polo is a middle class. 
You mean a polo? 

572
00:21:55,820 --> 00:21:59,300
I'm wearing a polo. 
You look like one of those, you 

573
00:21:59,310 --> 00:22:00,470
know? 
You look like you're wearing 

574
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,660
chinos on on your underneath and
some boat shoes and cardigan 

575
00:22:04,670 --> 00:22:06,630
wrapped around your shoulders. 
And. 

576
00:22:07,820 --> 00:22:10,550
To me, the benefits of the free 
market and how capitalism is 

577
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,180
best and stuff like that, Yeah, 
yeah. 

578
00:22:12,250 --> 00:22:13,790
So we can. 
Yeah, well, that's got a bit too

579
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,130
far, isn't? 
It a little bit little bit too 

580
00:22:16,140 --> 00:22:17,810
far but next time they will see 
lights. 

581
00:22:17,820 --> 00:22:19,060
Again, only one of us plays 
golf. 

582
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:22,300
Yep, and it's not him. 
We're in time 6. 

583
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:27,000
Yep, look at me like ohh, yeah, 
yeah, we're in term. 

584
00:22:27,010 --> 00:22:29,750
Six Time 6 is a really busy one.
What's your favourite thing 

585
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,720
about Time Six last summer? 
The weather. 

586
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,200
Is it genuinely I just love 
getting outside with kids. 

587
00:22:34,210 --> 00:22:35,900
Good job in England. 
I know, yeah. 

588
00:22:35,910 --> 00:22:37,480
If we're lucky that is. 
Yeah, yeah. 

589
00:22:37,490 --> 00:22:39,800
Just getting outside, genuinely,
it's my favourite thing. 

590
00:22:39,810 --> 00:22:41,440
I always think of that as like 
a. 

591
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,560
That's a nice. 
Memory where? 

592
00:22:42,570 --> 00:22:44,080
Where does it rank in your 
terms? 

593
00:22:44,150 --> 00:22:47,750
So we ranked holidays before 
term 6, the last term of the 

594
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,540
year. 
Where does it rank? 

595
00:22:49,550 --> 00:22:51,290
It's actually quite hard. 
I was about to go with one, but 

596
00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:54,320
then I immediately doubted 
myself because actually term 6 

597
00:22:54,330 --> 00:22:58,630
towards the end when it gets a 
bit or disjointed sometimes and 

598
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,510
then like the kids know, 
especially in the sex, they know

599
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,330
they're going to another school.
Yeah, nothing on the back like 

600
00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:05,510
the last few weeks. 
The behaviour always dropped 

601
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,360
massively because I like what 
you gonna do about it. 

602
00:23:07,470 --> 00:23:09,130
I'm I'm never coming back in a. 
Few weeks. 

603
00:23:09,670 --> 00:23:12,260
I don't know. 
Probably is is up there though, 

604
00:23:12,270 --> 00:23:15,140
even one or two the Christmas 
time. 

605
00:23:15,150 --> 00:23:17,240
Yeah, I like that one as well. 
Yeah, it's a nice time. 

606
00:23:17,250 --> 00:23:18,860
Good. 
The two terms with the least 

607
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:20,370
actual teaching. 
That's interesting. 

608
00:23:20,380 --> 00:23:21,500
That really tells me a lot about
how. 

609
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:23,270
You take two terms with a bit of
enrichment in them. 

610
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,680
Yeah, yeah, people on Instagram 
would have an absolute field day

611
00:23:25,690 --> 00:23:27,890
about that. 
You don't wanna date holiday 

612
00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:29,890
Difficult feature. 
Your favourite terms are the 

613
00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:31,480
ones where you're not teaching 
teaching. 

614
00:23:31,870 --> 00:23:34,280
Ohh got 13 wings are not enough 
for you? 

615
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:36,270
Bloody lefty liberal woke 
teacher. 

616
00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:40,130
Wow. 
Yeah, you captured that audience

617
00:23:40,140 --> 00:23:41,660
well. 
Thank you, dear loved one Time 

618
00:23:41,670 --> 00:23:43,510
six though Time 6 is great 
sports thing. 

619
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,370
Sports day is my favourite day. 
Yeah, yeah, And it's what's 

620
00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:47,430
really been. 
It is frustrating, I'm not gonna

621
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,870
lie, but I'm not gonna do 
anything about it. 

622
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,000
Is that we've missed sports 
there since we're part time, 

623
00:23:51,010 --> 00:23:52,610
it's always at the end of the. 
Week we haven't we. 

624
00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:56,110
In fact, we missed most things. 
Anything you know, all of the 

625
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:56,700
fun. 
Stuff. 

626
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:58,630
When's non uniformed? 
Friday. 

627
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,850
Friday. 
When's children? 

628
00:23:59,860 --> 00:24:02,060
Friday. 
OK, no problem. 

629
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:03,380
When you gonna do that? 
Afternoon. 

630
00:24:03,420 --> 00:24:04,090
Friday. 
Yeah. 

631
00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:05,610
Number day. 
Friday. 

632
00:24:05,620 --> 00:24:06,570
No problem. 
OK. 

633
00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:08,220
Sports day, right? 
Friday. 

634
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:09,640
That's cool. 
That's interesting. 

635
00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:11,870
Summer Fair. 
Thursday. 

636
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,030
Ohh. 
Still off? 

637
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,310
Still off? 
Yeah. 

638
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:17,480
We do get a bank holiday, we 
can't complain. 

639
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:20,100
But yeah, I love time Six turn 6
is amazing. 

640
00:24:20,410 --> 00:24:22,300
Just like you said, get outside 
as much as possible. 

641
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:25,660
What's your favourite thing? 
Then I so my favourite thing, 

642
00:24:25,670 --> 00:24:27,280
sports day. 
But I think sports day should be

643
00:24:27,290 --> 00:24:29,580
even more of a thing. 
I think sports day should be a 

644
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:31,400
huge sports week. 
No, but maybe. 

645
00:24:31,410 --> 00:24:34,890
But I think sports in general 
need to be put on so much more 

646
00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:37,740
of a pedestal in school. 
I think it's one of the most 

647
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:39,870
important things that actually 
gets decimated. 

648
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,420
You know, we don't touch certain
stuff. 

649
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:43,300
It's like sacred. 
We don't touch maths and English

650
00:24:43,310 --> 00:24:45,620
in the morning. 
We just don't like maybe maybe 

651
00:24:45,630 --> 00:24:47,820
once or twice a year for like a 
trip or something. 

652
00:24:47,930 --> 00:24:49,900
But it's like, no, no, we're not
gonna do pretty sacred time. 

653
00:24:49,910 --> 00:24:51,380
Yeah, we're not gonna do groups 
in Mass in English. 

654
00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:55,770
That is what is gold Standard 
Time science is kind of one 

655
00:24:55,780 --> 00:24:58,510
little level below that where 
one of these groups get out. 

656
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,870
Yeah, groups. 
Groups still. 

657
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,470
History. 
Go and do some reading groups. 

658
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,840
Come on. 
We talked about it last time. 

659
00:25:03,850 --> 00:25:06,390
The wider curriculum is just a 
joke and how it's treated like 

660
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,600
it's. 
Doing art, not doing anything 

661
00:25:08,610 --> 00:25:10,060
then in this curriculum. 
So off you go. 

662
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:12,690
Would you like? 
That you've done for 17 times in

663
00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:14,000
a row and you still don't 
understand it as well. 

664
00:25:14,010 --> 00:25:15,850
You won't understand it now for 
the 18th time, but. 

665
00:25:15,860 --> 00:25:17,410
No, I hate maths. 
Clearly. 

666
00:25:17,420 --> 00:25:19,980
I love art. 
Get out of here, you take. 

667
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,790
What's that you live for? 
Art that we do three times at 

668
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,570
all time I speak. 
It's time for you not to do art,

669
00:25:26,530 --> 00:25:28,300
honestly. 
But it's it's similar with 

670
00:25:28,370 --> 00:25:31,340
sports with one saying, I think 
sports should be as sacred as 

671
00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:32,380
maths and English. 
Yeah. 

672
00:25:32,430 --> 00:25:35,740
And it be like, but some people,
but some children don't like 

673
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:37,340
sports. 
Some children don't like 

674
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:38,760
reading. 
We force it down their necks. 

675
00:25:38,770 --> 00:25:40,740
Some children don't like maths 
and we make them do it every 

676
00:25:40,750 --> 00:25:42,310
day. 
Is that you were allowed to, 

677
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,820
not. 
Like sport actually has a a 

678
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:45,200
genuine physical benefit to you 
as. 

679
00:25:45,210 --> 00:25:46,640
Well, yeah, exactly. 
That's ohh. 

680
00:25:46,650 --> 00:25:49,370
You know, some kids aren't very 
good at sport. 

681
00:25:49,770 --> 00:25:52,290
Get them moving and you 
understand what you're saying 

682
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:54,140
right now because it's the same 
as maths in English. 

683
00:25:54,150 --> 00:25:55,940
Some kids aren't. 
Some kids aren't very good at 

684
00:25:55,950 --> 00:25:59,340
being healthy. 
Stop that. 

685
00:25:59,350 --> 00:26:01,380
Just let them. 
Yeah, it's, it's like, and you 

686
00:26:01,390 --> 00:26:04,470
know what, even if they stop 
halfway through and they've done

687
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,670
more than nothing. 
Yeah. 

688
00:26:05,740 --> 00:26:07,730
And some of them don't do 
anything outside of school. 

689
00:26:07,820 --> 00:26:11,190
It's really important. 
Like health is, wealth is is. 

690
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,170
Wealth is health, as Gove said, 
as it wasn't Gove, it's just 

691
00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:16,450
just, you know, we can just use 
it as punishment. 

692
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:19,450
Been naughty you naughty, 
naughty, naughty kid. 

693
00:26:19,460 --> 00:26:21,970
Get outside, do 10 laps around 
the field. 

694
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,460
So then why? 
The thing is, I just think 

695
00:26:23,470 --> 00:26:24,750
sports, they should be a huge 
event. 

696
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,710
Yeah, I think, I think you 
should go all out. 

697
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,990
I think it should be a day. 
I don't like how sports they 

698
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,550
turned into half day for a lot 
of schools. 

699
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,990
Like no, no sports day. 
Just do some teen parents in. 

700
00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:36,270
Yeah, get the parents. 
Medals, stickers, or whatever. 

701
00:26:36,340 --> 00:26:38,450
Have winners, we said this a 
million times. 

702
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,130
Have winners like it's OK to 
have participation things as 

703
00:26:42,140 --> 00:26:45,330
well as winners and and don't 
panty these people like there 

704
00:26:45,340 --> 00:26:47,360
are no winners in schools. 
One of the first things I 

705
00:26:47,370 --> 00:26:49,410
remember saying in this podcast 
that winds me up because the 

706
00:26:49,420 --> 00:26:51,360
winners all the time in school. 
You only need to be in 

707
00:26:51,370 --> 00:26:53,950
celebration assembly to see that
there are winners all the time 

708
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,660
in school. 
So we can't have winners 

709
00:26:55,670 --> 00:26:57,630
anymore. 
We're raising a woke generation 

710
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,600
of angry people you don't know 
how to lose. 

711
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,340
It's like, well, I like this 
character that's. 

712
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,530
God, yes, your alter ego some 
Yeah, I've seen a lot of 

713
00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:07,270
Instagram comments in the last 
week of weirdos who just like 

714
00:27:07,540 --> 00:27:09,550
someone said, I've gotta go back
to Instagram thing. 

715
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,680
Someone said this is where this 
character come from. 

716
00:27:11,740 --> 00:27:13,650
Someone posted, I just did a 
meme. 

717
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:16,550
It was first of all, I did an 
Obama meme where it was just 

718
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,650
something Obama said. 
It was nothing to do with Obama.

719
00:27:18,690 --> 00:27:19,940
It was just Obama saying this 
thing. 

720
00:27:19,950 --> 00:27:22,680
I made a meme about it, right. 
Yeah, I've started a war 

721
00:27:22,690 --> 00:27:25,390
teaching me a teaching me. 
Literally it was it was not even

722
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,110
political. 
Yes, Obama was just saying, hey,

723
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,530
what the heck are you talking 
about? 

724
00:27:28,810 --> 00:27:31,810
And my caption I put with it 
when someone who's never stepped

725
00:27:31,820 --> 00:27:33,980
foot in the classroom starts 
telling you how easy teaching 

726
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:36,140
is, that classic thing of no, 
you're not done it before, but 

727
00:27:36,150 --> 00:27:37,440
like teach other easy don't 
know. 

728
00:27:37,450 --> 00:27:39,940
Like you have no idea. 
Yeah, so some someone commented,

729
00:27:39,950 --> 00:27:43,200
like loads of people commenting 
on that just anti Obama stuff, 

730
00:27:43,210 --> 00:27:46,480
like the worst president we've 
ever seen, the most divisive 

731
00:27:46,490 --> 00:27:49,640
president in recent history and 
now his mannequin Biden's 

732
00:27:49,650 --> 00:27:52,860
cleaning up Banana Republic. 
It's like dude, this is just a 

733
00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:53,700
mean. 
What's a mannequin? 

734
00:27:53,710 --> 00:27:57,200
Have interest? 
I just translate maniac. 

735
00:27:57,450 --> 00:27:59,060
I realise the mannequin is also 
a word. 

736
00:27:59,150 --> 00:28:00,880
Damn it trying. 
To catch you. 

737
00:28:00,890 --> 00:28:02,510
It's an underfed mannequin I 
think. 

738
00:28:03,490 --> 00:28:06,030
But anyway someone commented on 
it going right. 

739
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,890
This is exactly what they said 
on this has nothing to do with 

740
00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:11,300
anything right. 
They literally commented going 

741
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:16,040
those who can't do teach. 
Those who can't teach 

742
00:28:16,090 --> 00:28:19,260
indoctrinate children. 
What? 

743
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,750
That is you, Dylan. 
Right. 

744
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,670
I really, I didn't reply. 
I really wanted to say this is 

745
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,240
the person I'm talking about. 
You're the person. 

746
00:28:29,250 --> 00:28:32,230
I'm talking person never in 
education who is like saying 

747
00:28:32,290 --> 00:28:34,590
where are you right now? 
I actually wanted to reply going

748
00:28:34,670 --> 00:28:37,250
those who can't put a coherent 
argument together comment on 

749
00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:39,090
random people's meme Instagram 
page. 

750
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,130
Those who comment on who can't 
come on random meme Instagram 

751
00:28:42,140 --> 00:28:43,990
page are. 
Complete nonsense and don't be 

752
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,090
me. 
I don't buy. 

753
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:46,430
I didn't. 
I didn't, I didn't. 

754
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,910
But the overall point there, I 
suppose, was everything I was 

755
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,260
saying. 
I've forgotten completely what 

756
00:28:53,270 --> 00:28:54,730
we're. 
Saying about the meme, yeah, 

757
00:28:54,740 --> 00:28:56,590
don't go to sports day. 
We're talking sports day. 

758
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,800
I see. 
I I've done with that guy. 

759
00:28:57,810 --> 00:28:59,670
You've done, I mean. 
You've got completely, yeah. 

760
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,060
The office, I think sports is 
really important. 

761
00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:03,930
There will be winners and stuff.
I just think it should be 

762
00:29:03,940 --> 00:29:05,590
massively picked up. 
I think it's really important. 

763
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,540
Do you think there's one thing 
and it's very much related to 

764
00:29:07,550 --> 00:29:10,520
what you just said, picking the 
kids that do the events. 

765
00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:13,950
Don't say again, what what is 
your opinion on that? 

766
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,100
Because a lot of people will say
just pick everyone, get everyone

767
00:29:18,110 --> 00:29:20,570
has a go, everyone has a fair 
chance and all the races. 

768
00:29:20,580 --> 00:29:22,050
Or do you pick the kids that are
the. 

769
00:29:22,060 --> 00:29:24,190
Best, right? 
So OK, let's flip this because I

770
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,320
have a slightly watered back 
opinion of what you're having in

771
00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:29,540
a maths lesson. 
Do we only let the children who 

772
00:29:29,550 --> 00:29:30,770
are really good at maths do 
maths? 

773
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,060
No, of course everyone does 
maths. 

774
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,590
So during a sports day, everyone
should do something. 

775
00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:36,970
Yes. 
Correct. 

776
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:40,210
If you've got a part of your 
sports day, which I think you 

777
00:29:40,220 --> 00:29:42,830
should have, which is 
celebrating excellence in sport.

778
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:44,770
Yeah. 
And, and like the, the, the best

779
00:29:44,780 --> 00:29:46,230
races in your year group or 
something. 

780
00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:47,390
Hmm. 
You should have that. 

781
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,920
And you should pick the best 
children as well. 

782
00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:51,550
So the, you know, the the other 
end of some people say to you 

783
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,090
like only the best people should
be in sports day because only 

784
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:56,710
the best people get to do, you 
know, they love art and they get

785
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,990
a chance to do and they get a 
chance to do. 

786
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,250
Well, OK. 
But also everyone does art. 

787
00:30:00,260 --> 00:30:02,890
When we do art, everyone does 
maths when we do maths, when we 

788
00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:04,630
do a sports day, everyone should
do sports day. 

789
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,380
It should be a celebration of 
sport, should be very positive. 

790
00:30:07,420 --> 00:30:09,550
We should be pushing as many 
children began to do it. 

791
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,470
Whether they say, ohh, I'm not 
sure they want to do this. 

792
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,960
It's like, OK, well let's find a
way you can. 

793
00:30:12,970 --> 00:30:15,100
Can you be involved in a team 
game maybe rather than an 

794
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:16,920
individual one, where you might 
feel embarrassed because we 

795
00:30:16,930 --> 00:30:19,360
don't want you to feel 
embarrassment, But the the best 

796
00:30:19,370 --> 00:30:21,320
children should get the chance 
to show off how good they are. 

797
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,230
Yeah, and also, there's a bit of
planning involved from us, isn't

798
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,310
there? 
Like you wouldn't you just avoid

799
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,780
doing a race? 
Like, I know this kid. 

800
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:29,970
I've taught these kids all year.
I know that this kid here is the

801
00:30:29,980 --> 00:30:31,600
literal fastest kid in our 
school. 

802
00:30:31,850 --> 00:30:34,350
And I happen to know that these 
other five children are probably

803
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,600
the slowest in this year group. 
Let's put them all in a race. 

804
00:30:36,610 --> 00:30:37,940
It's like, no, let's not do 
that. 

805
00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:40,510
You probably would in the same 
way you differentiate in class. 

806
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,310
Yeah, exactly. 
You probably just make the races

807
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,330
and different games and things 
fail, like you just said, so 

808
00:30:44,340 --> 00:30:46,930
everyone feels comfortable, has 
a chance to to participate and 

809
00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:49,600
win and not feel embarrassed. 
But then, yeah, like you said, I

810
00:30:49,610 --> 00:30:51,970
do think it's really important 
to not then some people just go 

811
00:30:51,980 --> 00:30:53,420
that way as well. 
They just do that. 

812
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:55,980
Like, no, it's completely fair. 
Everyone's in one heat. 

813
00:30:56,060 --> 00:30:57,610
And it's like, no, actually, 
Joe, what? 

814
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,840
I think the top six fastest 
runners probably do want to 

815
00:31:00,850 --> 00:31:02,580
actually have a race against 
each other to find out who's the

816
00:31:02,590 --> 00:31:03,670
fastest. 
Let's do that as well. 

817
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,970
Let's give them a chance. 
You should. 

818
00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:07,720
I think schools should build a 
culture of like, records and 

819
00:31:07,730 --> 00:31:09,680
stuff. 
Yeah Pinata, I think that's 

820
00:31:09,690 --> 00:31:12,880
great granny like you know again
and all but some people might 

821
00:31:12,890 --> 00:31:15,520
not reach that record correct. 
That's how records work and 

822
00:31:15,530 --> 00:31:18,300
they'll learn that during their 
time in school was like ohh, but

823
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:21,390
it shouldn't have that no no, 
it's OK for a child to know that

824
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,840
someone else is better than or 
something that's where they're 

825
00:31:23,850 --> 00:31:25,560
gonna learn isn't it in school 
because they don't have those 

826
00:31:25,570 --> 00:31:28,470
opportunities to learn in school
what they're going to become 18 

827
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,700
year old weirdos who think the 
world revolves around them. 

828
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:33,050
But you exactly right. 
I need it to be told much 

829
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:34,600
earlier that I wasn't the. 
Best person in the world? 

830
00:31:34,770 --> 00:31:36,970
Instead, I was told repeatedly 
that I was the cleverest person 

831
00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:39,160
in the. 
World it still is that actually.

832
00:31:39,290 --> 00:31:41,840
And in primary school, I'm not 
even joking, in primary school, 

833
00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:44,690
it was very much like always 
very skipped a year group, went 

834
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:47,890
up a year group, but was always 
told you're so clever, you're so

835
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:50,190
intelligent. 
And then I went to secondary 

836
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,070
school, into a grammar school 
and that that went, that 

837
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,510
disappeared. 
And that was really weird like 

838
00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:57,620
that. 
I think earlier should have been

839
00:31:57,630 --> 00:32:00,230
instilled in me that you can, 
you can be good, but you need to

840
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,290
learn, you know, there are 
people going to be better than 

841
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:04,110
you always. 
And that was a really weird 

842
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,230
dynamic for me stepping into 
secondary school because I was 

843
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,630
the only one from my school who 
went to secondary school and all

844
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,870
of a sudden I was just another 
fish. 

845
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,120
The other kids went home. 
My second just go, Yeah. 

846
00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:18,150
I was the only kid in my class 
to go to secondary school. 

847
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,430
Were you? 
No to that, yeah. 

848
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,380
But yeah, I just. 
I think sports, they should be 

849
00:32:23,390 --> 00:32:25,310
huge thing. 
That's my point now nice cool 

850
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,510
talk about your. 
Pole quick poll. 

851
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:31,070
We will get into parenting I 
promise and had this poll on 

852
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,370
Instagram and I want to tell you
2 facts about it because it blew

853
00:32:34,380 --> 00:32:35,680
my mind. 
One of them did anyway. 

854
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,990
And so simple politics. 
Really cool Instagram page 

855
00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:42,460
making politics accessible for 
loads of people really coming 

856
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:43,680
into their own in the general 
election. 

857
00:32:43,690 --> 00:32:45,730
A lot of people who wouldn't be 
at all really interested or 

858
00:32:45,740 --> 00:32:47,470
bothered at least get to see 
him. 

859
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,470
Like really digestible form. 
Run by guy called Tatton 

860
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,930
Spiller. 
He used to come into schools. 

861
00:32:51,940 --> 00:32:52,970
I was gonna say I recognise 
that. 

862
00:32:52,980 --> 00:32:53,950
Name. 
Yeah, he came in and did an 

863
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,310
assembly. 
I think he still goes into 

864
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,720
schools now and again, just 
about making politics accessible

865
00:32:57,730 --> 00:32:59,060
for people, is really passionate
about that. 

866
00:32:59,070 --> 00:33:00,510
Yeah, I think what he does is 
amazing. 

867
00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:05,990
So they posted a news like every
day they post like a carousel of

868
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,040
different news. 
It's just a gift to people who 

869
00:33:08,050 --> 00:33:09,190
don't want to read the papers 
and stuff. 

870
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,420
And the first one was a poll 
about how teachers are using 

871
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:17,050
their own money to help children
and support students and which 

872
00:33:17,060 --> 00:33:19,670
we all know happens a lot. 
So I did my own one, I shared 

873
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,390
that and I did a poll and it was
simply have you used your own 

874
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,530
money to support your pupils? 
And the three options were yes, 

875
00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:31,210
all the time, rarely or never. 
Sure. 

876
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,290
So first interesting thing. 
No one who voted on that poll. 

877
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:36,790
Hundreds of teachers on our 
Instagram. 

878
00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:38,970
No, no one voted. 
Never. 

879
00:33:39,020 --> 00:33:41,570
Wow. 
So everyone who voted, maybe 

880
00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:44,470
some people didn't vote. 
I don't know who who were never.

881
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,510
But no one who voted, but never.
So everyone spent some money. 

882
00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:49,030
I can say I've spent some of my 
money. 

883
00:33:49,140 --> 00:33:51,710
I'm sure you spent some money. 
It's just it's it's completely 

884
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,660
normal, as shown by that poll. 
Yeah, I think 20% said rarely 

885
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:59,010
and 80% said yeah, all the time.
Wow. 

886
00:33:59,020 --> 00:34:01,140
And, and and that shocked me 
because I didn't know it was 

887
00:34:01,150 --> 00:34:04,160
that high. 
No, but I dug deeper and I think

888
00:34:04,170 --> 00:34:07,940
I found out why it shocked me. 
OK, so I went in a little bit 

889
00:34:07,950 --> 00:34:12,929
deeper in. 
OK, I would say 95% of the 

890
00:34:12,940 --> 00:34:16,449
people who clicked. 
Yeah, always, I always spend my 

891
00:34:16,460 --> 00:34:20,710
money with females. 
Yeah, 95% of the people who 

892
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,469
clicked rarely were males. 
No way. 

893
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,170
So the reason why there's such a
discrepancy is there's far fewer

894
00:34:27,179 --> 00:34:28,739
males and. 
Teaching men don't care. 

895
00:34:28,750 --> 00:34:33,500
But I said I just skipped it. 
That's what I'm trying to say. 

896
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:35,739
You saying that men don't care, 
women do. 

897
00:34:35,790 --> 00:34:37,820
No, OK, listen, I'm not going to
say anything. 

898
00:34:37,830 --> 00:34:38,820
I want you to commentate on 
this. 

899
00:34:38,830 --> 00:34:40,710
I'm going to stay completely 
neutral other than give you the 

900
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,690
facts, which is clearly women 
teachers spend more on extra 

901
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:48,340
stuff and and ploughing in. 
Not all of them, obviously, 

902
00:34:48,350 --> 00:34:50,199
because some men voted all the 
time. 

903
00:34:50,210 --> 00:34:52,190
Some women voted rarely. 
Yeah, but they're general. 

904
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,550
But it wasn't much. 
They're very clearly was a huge 

905
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,370
skew towards men rarely do it, 
women do it all the time. 

906
00:34:57,380 --> 00:34:58,840
What's your thought on? 
That I don't really know. 

907
00:34:58,850 --> 00:35:00,470
I think it plays into 
stereotypes, isn't it? 

908
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,300
That's all it does. 
Like I think we could go really 

909
00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:05,640
deep with this I suppose. 
But at what point the stereotype

910
00:35:05,650 --> 00:35:07,860
should become a fact? 
Because that's just a fact now. 

911
00:35:07,940 --> 00:35:09,930
Well, that's what stereotypes. 
But yeah, well, no. 

912
00:35:09,940 --> 00:35:11,890
Cause stereotypes like 
exaggerated and they're not 

913
00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:13,420
always good to go off because it
doesn't mean. 

914
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:15,740
Yeah. 
So for example, if we said 

915
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:19,400
beforehand most women spend more
money than men on the class, 

916
00:35:19,410 --> 00:35:21,630
Someone Like You shouldn't, 
shouldn't fall into those 

917
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,660
stereotypes. 
So. 

918
00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:25,740
But now we've got this data that
is just a fact. 

919
00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:27,840
It's like if you said it now. 
So I said, oh, bloody 

920
00:35:27,850 --> 00:35:30,600
stereotypes. 
But no, no, here this actually 

921
00:35:30,610 --> 00:35:31,760
is. 
True, that's the blurred lines. 

922
00:35:31,770 --> 00:35:33,390
Sometimes stereotypes. 
Not just true. 

923
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,960
That's, well, usually the 
stereotype. 

924
00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:37,110
Rooted in truth, aren't they? 
Yeah, yeah, like you said, they 

925
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,490
get exaggerated and then they 
get manipulated and played on 

926
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:40,660
and people use it for negative 
things. 

927
00:35:40,670 --> 00:35:44,260
But the actual, the root of a 
stereotype is usually because 

928
00:35:44,270 --> 00:35:45,980
there is a an actual underlying 
fact. 

929
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:48,770
Yeah, to show something and. 
How you interpret that is up to.

930
00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:49,850
You. 
Is that from your from your 

931
00:35:49,860 --> 00:35:51,200
experience though, is that shock
you or does? 

932
00:35:51,210 --> 00:35:53,540
That it doesn't shock me at all,
to be honest with you. 

933
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:56,740
I think it's cool that you found
that. 

934
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:58,010
But I'm, I wouldn't say I'm 
shocked. 

935
00:35:58,020 --> 00:35:59,400
I'd be shocked if it was other 
way around. 

936
00:35:59,410 --> 00:36:02,040
I'd be shocked if it was like, 
yeah, men were saying all the 

937
00:36:02,050 --> 00:36:03,480
time they spend the money and 
women rarely. 

938
00:36:03,490 --> 00:36:06,700
I'd be like, ohh, that doesn't 
fit with my stereotypes, my view

939
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:08,980
of, you know, teachers. 
Do you think that that links 

940
00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:14,390
into like men are more likely to
push themselves like find 

941
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,080
themselves further up on the 
career ladder? 

942
00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:18,880
In terms of what I mean, there 
is, you know, it's just this is 

943
00:36:18,890 --> 00:36:20,060
my job. 
We're going to do my job. 

944
00:36:20,070 --> 00:36:21,840
If it's not working, I'll move 
somewhere else. 

945
00:36:21,850 --> 00:36:24,100
I'll leave the profession or 
I'll just go into a role outside

946
00:36:24,110 --> 00:36:24,490
the. 
Classroom. 

947
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:26,280
I think it's linked to the 
gender stereotypes than 

948
00:36:26,290 --> 00:36:27,910
education, full stop. 
Right. 

949
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,750
I think, I think there are lots 
of gender stereotypes in 

950
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,210
education and they're all just 
kind of interwoven a bit between

951
00:36:32,220 --> 00:36:34,990
male and female, for a start. 
You know, it's still a 

952
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,530
profession dominated by women. 
And it's like, OK, well, why is 

953
00:36:38,540 --> 00:36:40,220
that? 
And I think if you look into the

954
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:43,210
why is that, you'll probably 
find the same reason, the same 

955
00:36:43,220 --> 00:36:45,610
answer for the for why your poll
came out like that as well. 

956
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:48,650
It's like, well, yeah. 
Because stereotypically women 

957
00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:50,950
are more caring, more motherly, 
all of that kind of stuff. 

958
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,550
Not everyone obviously 
stereotypes. 

959
00:36:52,980 --> 00:36:56,610
And I think with that comes the 
answer to your one is that yeah,

960
00:36:56,620 --> 00:36:58,260
why is it women that are 
spending more money than in the 

961
00:36:58,270 --> 00:37:00,340
class and not men? 
It's OHH that's the same answer.

962
00:37:00,410 --> 00:37:01,540
Can I stay in the classroom 
longer? 

963
00:37:01,550 --> 00:37:02,880
As well. 
Yeah, yeah, I guess so. 

964
00:37:02,930 --> 00:37:05,800
In general, I I feel like every 
time we say something here, 

965
00:37:05,810 --> 00:37:08,600
yeah, we're not saying everyone.
And then we, you know, we, we 

966
00:37:08,610 --> 00:37:10,140
spoke. 
I remember what episode it was. 

967
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:11,940
It was ages ago. 
We've done a lot now. 

968
00:37:11,950 --> 00:37:14,650
Ages and ages ago last year 
sometime we, I can't remember 

969
00:37:14,660 --> 00:37:19,100
why, but we mentioned the fact 
that the percentage of men in 

970
00:37:19,110 --> 00:37:22,230
teaching isn't representative 
the higher up you go in terms of

971
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:23,550
like the hierarchy of the 
school. 

972
00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:25,320
So it was some, I'm just making 
up numbers now. 

973
00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:28,690
Let's say it was like 10% of 
teachers are our men, whereas 

974
00:37:28,740 --> 00:37:31,070
20% of SLT and head teachers 
were men. 

975
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:33,680
So it was like, OK, so there's 
disproportionate amount of men 

976
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,150
rising up the ranks. 
Why is that? 

977
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,450
And you play again into the 
stereotypes of, OK, the men 

978
00:37:37,460 --> 00:37:40,690
aren't as caring and, and maybe 
they as as the women, they don't

979
00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:42,400
want to stay in the classroom. 
They want to rise up the career 

980
00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:44,450
ladder and make more money. 
And if they want to make more 

981
00:37:44,460 --> 00:37:46,700
money, probably less likely to 
spend all of their money on the 

982
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:47,730
class. 
I don't know. 

983
00:37:47,740 --> 00:37:49,890
I just think you could probably 
go down a massive rabbit hole. 

984
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:51,800
Yeah, I was just trying to get 
you to say something got 

985
00:37:51,810 --> 00:37:53,660
cancelled, so keep going mate. 
Yeah. 

986
00:37:54,420 --> 00:37:55,720
Ohh, there. 
No, I think it's interesting. 

987
00:37:55,730 --> 00:37:57,450
I'd love to hear because 
probably people do like whole 

988
00:37:57,460 --> 00:37:58,380
studies on this. 
Yeah. 

989
00:37:58,390 --> 00:38:00,580
So it'd be really cool to find. 
Out and again, like what? 

990
00:38:00,590 --> 00:38:02,480
Well, just wanna reiterate is 
that's just a fact. 

991
00:38:02,490 --> 00:38:04,020
That is just what happened in 
this poll. 

992
00:38:04,110 --> 00:38:06,320
Yeah, most of them, many said, 
really most of the women said 

993
00:38:06,330 --> 00:38:07,690
all the time. 
And I just found it really 

994
00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:09,750
interesting. 
Let's play the Jingle one more 

995
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,600
time and we'll have a nice short
chat about balancing parenting 

996
00:38:12,610 --> 00:38:15,270
and teaching and just, I guess, 
reflecting on the fact we've 

997
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,280
been parents now this school 
year, basically. 

998
00:38:17,290 --> 00:38:19,110
OK, how it's affected things. 
Wow. 

999
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,490
Hmm. 
Hello everyone, welcome to 

1000
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:23,710
another episode of Teaching 
Repeat. 

1001
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:25,600
My name is Dylan. 
Dylan, which is the Jingle Mate.

1002
00:38:25,810 --> 00:38:29,440
Sorry, we bulk. 
Don't tell them we record 10 at 

1003
00:38:29,450 --> 00:38:31,180
a time. 
And we just predict the future. 

1004
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:33,410
Imagine. 
Imagine we get to the end of 

1005
00:38:33,420 --> 00:38:35,220
recording one episode and we're 
generally quite knackered. 

1006
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:37,590
Literally, I don't know why. 
Because we'd sit and talk like 

1007
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,780
this. 
Yeah, not recording. 

1008
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:41,450
I made you tie me out anyway. 
Just in general being around. 

1009
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,440
So we've been parents now for 
pretty much this school year. 

1010
00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:47,440
Both our children were born at 
the start of the school year. 

1011
00:38:48,110 --> 00:38:50,850
I felt like it was a weird few 
weeks starting back knowing that

1012
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,620
my partner is about to give 
birth, I was about to become a 

1013
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:54,420
father and I just moved house as
well. 

1014
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,280
That was a really weird time 
one. 

1015
00:38:56,690 --> 00:38:58,880
But since then, obviously we've 
we've had our children. 

1016
00:38:58,950 --> 00:39:01,970
River came along in November. 
Yeah, I've got that. 

1017
00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:02,900
Yeah. 
November. 

1018
00:39:02,910 --> 00:39:05,020
November the 19th. 
Very good, very good. 

1019
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:07,050
Yeah, because I know because 
it's two weeks after Rory Anna 

1020
00:39:07,060 --> 00:39:08,560
month. 
Ah yeah, nice. 

1021
00:39:09,310 --> 00:39:13,520
So anyway, I guess this part of 
the episode is going to be all 

1022
00:39:13,530 --> 00:39:16,010
about balancing being a teacher 
and being a parent because we're

1023
00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:18,150
new to this. 
So we're going to reflect on how

1024
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,300
we've managed to do it for the 
first few months and then 

1025
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:22,580
probably, yeah. 
And then probably project a bit 

1026
00:39:22,590 --> 00:39:25,240
on how we plan to do it in the 
following years because, you 

1027
00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:28,260
know, it's weird because we have
this child now for at least 17 

1028
00:39:28,270 --> 00:39:30,480
1/2 more years. 
So yeah, that's quite a long 

1029
00:39:30,490 --> 00:39:32,510
time, isn't it? 
And depending on who wins the 

1030
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,180
election, I don't think it does 
depend. 

1031
00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:35,700
I think it doesn't matter who 
wins. 

1032
00:39:35,710 --> 00:39:37,360
No, no, it might be 50. 
Years. 

1033
00:39:38,850 --> 00:39:40,860
I I suppose you're listening to 
this as well. 

1034
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:42,850
You might also be in the boat of
being a kid or. 

1035
00:39:42,860 --> 00:39:44,250
Being a kid. 
Please. 

1036
00:39:44,260 --> 00:39:45,810
No, I hope not. 
Yeah, you might be a bit of 

1037
00:39:45,820 --> 00:39:48,990
being a parent or knowing you're
gonna be a parent in the future.

1038
00:39:49,150 --> 00:39:51,400
Yeah, at some point you plan on 
becoming a parent and you 

1039
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:53,850
probably thinking how on earth 
can balance all thinking? 

1040
00:39:53,860 --> 00:39:56,990
Hell no. 
And actually, let's hear. 

1041
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,190
From doing it right now. 
This might confirm. 

1042
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,390
Let's put on a different podcast
because it's nothing to do with 

1043
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,180
me. 
So I guess my first point to 

1044
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:07,620
you, Hayden, is how much do you 
regret it? 

1045
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,190
Ohh fights. 
Not at all. 

1046
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,410
Dylan. 
My child is precious. 

1047
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,290
My lip was quivering. 
Keep it together. 

1048
00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:20,390
No, I jokes aside, it is the 
best thing I've ever. 

1049
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,250
Done well, just funny enough 
that you said that obviously 

1050
00:40:22,260 --> 00:40:24,570
didn't plan this, but I was I 
watched the Tick Tock the other 

1051
00:40:24,580 --> 00:40:27,810
day and it was a woman just 
talking to camera saying I 

1052
00:40:27,820 --> 00:40:29,270
haven't have children in their 
30s. 

1053
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,190
Just classic to the point where 
she's like, oh, I don't know 

1054
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,510
what to do. 
I don't know if I want children 

1055
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,860
or not. 
And she said, I wanna, I want 

1056
00:40:35,870 --> 00:40:39,380
people to comment down below if 
you had kids and if you regret 

1057
00:40:39,390 --> 00:40:41,740
it was like, because everyone 
that I had no have kids always 

1058
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:42,910
say you won't regret it. 
Regret it. 

1059
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,480
But I'm like, but there is a 
part of me that's worried that I

1060
00:40:45,490 --> 00:40:46,540
just will though. 
Yeah. 

1061
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:48,730
So does that exist? 
And I look at the comments 

1062
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:49,740
section. 
It was really, really 

1063
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:52,260
interesting because there was a 
huge variety of people. 

1064
00:40:52,270 --> 00:40:53,460
Yeah. 
And there was some was one of 

1065
00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:55,840
the top comment on it was 
brutal. 

1066
00:40:56,270 --> 00:40:58,090
But she even said in the 
comment, I'm being brutally 

1067
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:00,440
honest here. 
She said I love my kids, but I 

1068
00:41:00,450 --> 00:41:04,060
absolutely regret it. 
She was like, I would I really, 

1069
00:41:04,070 --> 00:41:07,840
really miss my life and time and
everything before having kids. 

1070
00:41:07,850 --> 00:41:11,340
Even though I, I love my kids, I
do regret having yeah. 

1071
00:41:11,350 --> 00:41:12,730
And I was like, wow, that's 
interesting. 

1072
00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:15,780
Then the next comment below, it 
was like, you'll never regret 

1073
00:41:15,790 --> 00:41:17,040
it. 
It's given my life purpose. 

1074
00:41:17,050 --> 00:41:19,340
It's a love that I've never 
experienced before. 

1075
00:41:19,450 --> 00:41:21,760
And you know, I love my life 
now. 

1076
00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:24,580
Yes, it's more exhausting and 
knackered and I miss elements of

1077
00:41:24,590 --> 00:41:27,180
my life before, but I would 
never, ever go back. 

1078
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:29,220
And I was like, well, there's 
the two complete opposites 

1079
00:41:29,230 --> 00:41:30,840
there. 
When someone asks you for your 

1080
00:41:30,850 --> 00:41:32,610
opinion, do you always give 
other peoples instead of your 

1081
00:41:32,620 --> 00:41:33,940
own or is that just what you 
doing? 

1082
00:41:35,450 --> 00:41:39,390
Sorry. 
How long is this going to take? 

1083
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,600
Finish, finish. 
I want to make him laugh and 

1084
00:41:41,610 --> 00:41:48,650
tell my large number. 
I'm stuck, I know. 

1085
00:41:49,470 --> 00:41:51,150
I wonder how many types of 
comedy is going to go through 

1086
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,940
before he gives me that. 
I'll give you some more. 

1087
00:41:53,410 --> 00:41:58,110
No, no, no, don't. 
For me personally is generally 

1088
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,560
the best I've ever done because 
honestly, when you know, in, in 

1089
00:42:01,570 --> 00:42:04,610
the mornings when he wakes up, 
it's really annoying me wakes up

1090
00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:06,250
at 5:00. 
Like I completely get what these

1091
00:42:06,260 --> 00:42:08,230
people are saying. 
It's really, I'd never be up for

1092
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:10,610
that time ever. 
And I'm knackered and I'm like, 

1093
00:42:10,620 --> 00:42:13,900
I'm actually annoyed sometimes. 
And I go, oh God, could you just

1094
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:17,520
not have got up at 5 for the 
bloody 57th day in a row? 

1095
00:42:17,530 --> 00:42:20,400
Like, but then you go over to 
him and he's got his head up and

1096
00:42:20,410 --> 00:42:24,400
he's smiling and I'm like, I 
love you so much. 

1097
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:26,660
And we go, we go and play for 
two hours and it's fine. 

1098
00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:29,150
Like for me personally is 
genuinely the best thing we've 

1099
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,700
done. 
And I, I wish. 

1100
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:33,540
I wish I'd done it sooner, I 
think. 

1101
00:42:33,850 --> 00:42:36,640
So regret is not the right word.
But what's the biggest thing 

1102
00:42:36,650 --> 00:42:39,000
then, that you miss real life? 
What's the biggest impact to 

1103
00:42:39,010 --> 00:42:40,320
you? 
Yeah, it's something that you 

1104
00:42:40,330 --> 00:42:41,680
had previously and now you don't
have. 

1105
00:42:41,690 --> 00:42:48,250
It I was someone who absolutely 
never really planned anything, 

1106
00:42:48,450 --> 00:42:50,280
so I went with the flow kind of 
thing. 

1107
00:42:50,330 --> 00:42:52,750
Well, what I mean is like, I 
wouldn't. 

1108
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:54,490
It was like Wednesday. 
We're talking about your 

1109
00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:56,540
lessons. 
Just to clarify my personal 

1110
00:42:56,550 --> 00:43:00,020
life, if it was like Wednesday 
and and someone said to me what 

1111
00:43:00,030 --> 00:43:02,460
you doing Friday night or what 
you doing Saturday and I I would

1112
00:43:02,470 --> 00:43:04,520
honestly have to reply. 
I don't know, like, I don't 

1113
00:43:04,530 --> 00:43:05,060
know. 
Yeah. 

1114
00:43:05,070 --> 00:43:06,940
Because either someone else has 
planned something that I'm going

1115
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:09,730
along with, or I'll wait until 
Friday and then sort something 

1116
00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:10,840
out. 
And then Saturday, I'll sort 

1117
00:43:10,850 --> 00:43:13,760
something out and, and it's just
like that, that freedom to kind 

1118
00:43:13,770 --> 00:43:18,090
of do whatever I want. 
I would say, though, that by the

1119
00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:21,440
time Rory came around, I might 
look back now and feel like I 

1120
00:43:21,450 --> 00:43:24,660
missed that. 
But I was 30 when Rory came. 

1121
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:28,980
I had my entire 20s of doing 
whatever I wanted whenever I 

1122
00:43:28,990 --> 00:43:30,580
wanted. 
If I wanted to play golf, I 

1123
00:43:30,590 --> 00:43:32,760
played golf. 
And I'd have friends who had 

1124
00:43:32,770 --> 00:43:35,680
kids like two or three, four 
years earlier who'd started to 

1125
00:43:35,690 --> 00:43:38,560
go down the road of like, Oh, 
no, I can't just come today. 

1126
00:43:38,570 --> 00:43:42,750
Do you miss having friends? 
But they, they, they like I 

1127
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,190
can't, I can't come today 
because I've got to plan more 

1128
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,230
than two days in advance because
I've got a child now and I 

1129
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:50,900
understand that more than ever. 
But I think I got to the point 

1130
00:43:50,910 --> 00:43:52,760
where the grass always be 
greener. 

1131
00:43:52,770 --> 00:43:55,170
And I'll look back now, but 
like, I wish I had my time, but 

1132
00:43:55,180 --> 00:43:57,670
I got to the point where I was 
just like, I do want to get that

1133
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,510
now. 
Yeah. 

1134
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,930
I was ready to make. 
I was ready to sacrifice my own 

1135
00:44:01,940 --> 00:44:02,440
thing. 
Yeah. 

1136
00:44:02,450 --> 00:44:03,960
And there are lots of people who
aren't ready to do that. 

1137
00:44:03,970 --> 00:44:06,490
And I think the one thing I want
to get across right now, and I'm

1138
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:09,380
saying it's the best thing ever.
I'm not that person who's gonna 

1139
00:44:09,390 --> 00:44:10,830
tell you it's the best thing for
you ever. 

1140
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,610
I think that's it. 
That annoys me so much. 

1141
00:44:12,620 --> 00:44:14,150
Yeah. 
People saying it's the best. 

1142
00:44:14,220 --> 00:44:17,030
You have to do this. 
It's like, no, you don't at all.

1143
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:20,070
If your favourite thing ever is 
going away on holiday whenever 

1144
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,160
you want and spending time with 
your partner as much as you want

1145
00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:24,450
and having you know if you've 
made that choice not to have 

1146
00:44:24,460 --> 00:44:26,970
kids, crack. 
And if you're happy with it as 

1147
00:44:26,980 --> 00:44:29,370
well, Yeah, do that then if 
you're satisfied with it and. 

1148
00:44:29,620 --> 00:44:31,400
And your gut feeling is I don't 
want, I don't want kids. 

1149
00:44:31,410 --> 00:44:33,060
You don't have to. 
You really at all. 

1150
00:44:33,070 --> 00:44:34,720
I mean, that pressure is gone a 
lot. 

1151
00:44:34,730 --> 00:44:37,600
I reckon generations ago that 
there was way more pressure. 

1152
00:44:37,650 --> 00:44:39,640
Yeah, you've got to, you've got 
to have kids and the start of 

1153
00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:40,750
family. 
Whereas now it's more like, 

1154
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,050
well, actually no, you don't 
have to if you don't want. 

1155
00:44:42,060 --> 00:44:44,140
To well, do you think that's 
partly to do with like the 

1156
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:45,800
environment as well that we're 
bringing kids into? 

1157
00:44:45,810 --> 00:44:48,960
Because I'd say that at these 
days, it used to be even like 

1158
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:51,050
even when we were in school, 
remember there was a huge thing 

1159
00:44:51,060 --> 00:44:52,620
about like teen pregnancies and 
stuff. 

1160
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:55,180
It was massive. 
It was like, don't do, don't do 

1161
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:56,120
this. 
You need to have educate. 

1162
00:44:56,130 --> 00:44:57,920
This is a huge problem in 
England. 

1163
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,810
And now we're at the point where
it's like, or have a kid, don't 

1164
00:45:00,820 --> 00:45:02,250
get to 30 and not have a kid, 
please. 

1165
00:45:02,340 --> 00:45:05,120
Because there's so many people 
of our generation born in like 

1166
00:45:05,130 --> 00:45:08,920
the the late 80s, early 90s, who
are now, you know, passed into 

1167
00:45:08,930 --> 00:45:11,990
their 30s, mid 30s, who still 
haven't had children. 

1168
00:45:12,220 --> 00:45:15,320
And people in their 20s who are 
thinking, well, I can't, I've 

1169
00:45:15,330 --> 00:45:17,230
not even got a house yet. 
Of course I can't afford to 

1170
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:18,290
bring a child into. 
Yeah. 

1171
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:20,870
Do you think that's another 
reason why it's shifted and 

1172
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,750
become more? 
Acceptable. 

1173
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,070
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. 
The environment and the economy 

1174
00:45:26,180 --> 00:45:27,530
is a huge factor. 
I know. 

1175
00:45:27,540 --> 00:45:31,320
I actually know lots of people 
who in one of two boats, they're

1176
00:45:31,330 --> 00:45:35,170
either thinking I might want 
kids, but I can't, I can't even 

1177
00:45:35,180 --> 00:45:37,750
afford to live by my for myself 
at the moment. 

1178
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,020
So how could I possibly afford a
kid? 

1179
00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:41,820
So not having a kick as I can't 
afford it. 

1180
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,690
And there's people just just 
just don't want kids at all. 

1181
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:47,870
And they're thinking, I I like 
my lifestyle and it's and I'm 

1182
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,080
earning barely enough. 
So I just want, you know, I mean

1183
00:45:50,090 --> 00:45:52,200
they're just actively being 
like, Nope, don't want kids then

1184
00:45:52,210 --> 00:45:54,800
haven't even got a house yet. 
I'm going to rent and I don't 

1185
00:45:54,810 --> 00:45:56,500
want to have a kid if I'm not in
a house. 

1186
00:45:56,510 --> 00:45:59,980
And they have that order almost 
of like, yeah, no, I have to 

1187
00:45:59,990 --> 00:46:02,310
some people been very strict 
with like, I'm married, I'm 

1188
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,350
gonna get a house and then we 
have kids and they still very 

1189
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,400
much live by that. 
Yeah, that that order. 

1190
00:46:06,410 --> 00:46:09,180
And it's like, yeah, but you 
know, your mid 30s now and you 

1191
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:11,050
haven't done the 1st 2:00 and 
it's not our choice. 

1192
00:46:11,060 --> 00:46:12,810
It's because they're so 
unbelievably expensive. 

1193
00:46:12,820 --> 00:46:15,350
Yeah, yeah. 
So I just think people are in 

1194
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,250
tough situations. 
Like what? 

1195
00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:20,850
Like what was it for you? 
I want to dive deep into what 

1196
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,680
made you want to have kids? 
I or did you want to have? 

1197
00:46:23,690 --> 00:46:24,780
I don't know. 
I don't actually know your 

1198
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:26,790
situation. 
Like was it just a bit of ohh, 

1199
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,010
this is kind of happening or 
conscious decision? 

1200
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,640
How how long did you want kids 
and that kind of those? 

1201
00:46:32,650 --> 00:46:35,340
Kind of questions Is that 
classic kid? 

1202
00:46:35,350 --> 00:46:38,020
I was like, I wanted kids my 
whole childhood. 

1203
00:46:38,090 --> 00:46:39,450
Yeah. 
Like she's quite abnormal for 

1204
00:46:39,460 --> 00:46:40,840
men. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1205
00:46:40,850 --> 00:46:43,400
I think because again, I don't 
have said in the podcast, but I 

1206
00:46:43,410 --> 00:46:48,180
was, if I think about my 
cousins, hmm, I'm the oldest of 

1207
00:46:48,190 --> 00:46:54,780
my cousins and up until I was 
probably 141516, there was 

1208
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:56,590
always a baby cousin in the 
family. 

1209
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,550
So always, always growing up, 
there was a baby in, in the 

1210
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,740
family somehow that I was 
related to that I'd hang out 

1211
00:47:01,750 --> 00:47:04,520
with and, and you know, my mum 
would be with her sister who's 

1212
00:47:04,530 --> 00:47:06,710
who had babies. 
They're like 20 now, which is 

1213
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:09,000
crazy. 
Ohh, older than 20 cause I'm 30,

1214
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,650
but it's always been a baby 
basically. 

1215
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:12,350
Yeah. 
And I always loved spending time

1216
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,270
playing with them. 
I was surrounded by them and. 

1217
00:47:14,380 --> 00:47:17,130
I hated it. 
Just yeah, I didn't ask you, but

1218
00:47:17,170 --> 00:47:21,430
I. 
Wow, the end of the. 

1219
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,790
Episode. 
I love it so much that I thought

1220
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,470
I'm going to start a podcast 
with a man who looks like a 

1221
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,960
baby. 
Yeah. 

1222
00:47:26,970 --> 00:47:29,030
Thank you, young face. 
I'll take that. 

1223
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,930
No, I've always wanted to and 
through my 20s, I think the 

1224
00:47:32,940 --> 00:47:38,680
first half of my 20s I thought 
not yet, obviously, umm, then 

1225
00:47:38,690 --> 00:47:41,890
then I got to like 2526 and I 
was like, I I probably would, 

1226
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:44,350
but I can wait. 
Yeah, I had that, that classic 

1227
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,210
thing of what you're 
experiencing now, which is, I 

1228
00:47:46,220 --> 00:47:48,600
know I want kids, but I'm not 
really bothered by it. 

1229
00:47:48,610 --> 00:47:51,110
Too much as long as I've known 
you that's I'd say that's the 

1230
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,230
state I've. 
Known. 

1231
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:54,450
Yeah. 
Even like, yeah, mid 20s, maybe 

1232
00:47:54,460 --> 00:47:55,990
a little bit younger. 
I remember you being like, yeah,

1233
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,110
I'd love kids. 
I'd have kids now. 

1234
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,230
Yeah, I was. 
Always like Jesus. 

1235
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:01,570
So I I would have a kid now if, 
if, if, if like my partner 

1236
00:48:01,580 --> 00:48:05,870
falling pregnant, I'd have been 
like, OK, let's do it like 2526.

1237
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,570
I absolutely would absolutely 
fine with that. 

1238
00:48:07,580 --> 00:48:10,150
I would have wanted a bit more 
time to just play golf and I 

1239
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,390
wanted the stuff like. 
You've been cool. 

1240
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,680
With it, I've been absolutely 
cool with it. 

1241
00:48:12,690 --> 00:48:14,290
Yeah. 
And I've been, you know, I've 

1242
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:19,030
embraced it and I would love it.
I think then from like my 25 to 

1243
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,370
30, I kind of wanted to get more
and it was more like, I do want 

1244
00:48:23,380 --> 00:48:25,370
this though. 
And there were certain reasons 

1245
00:48:25,380 --> 00:48:28,290
why we, we didn't quite do it 
that time or we pushed it on. 

1246
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,070
But then when we decided, right,
we're actually going to properly

1247
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,070
do this now we're going to 
actually properly try. 

1248
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,190
We're really fortunate it only 
took us like 2-3, four months, 

1249
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,380
which is we understand how lucky
we are at that point because, 

1250
00:48:39,390 --> 00:48:42,110
you know, if it, like some 
people takes years, that would 

1251
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,790
have knocked mean to 3233. 
Yeah. 

1252
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:44,460
Yeah. 
Like so. 

1253
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:45,840
So I, I do understand how lucky 
I am. 

1254
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:48,780
And Rory came two months after 
my 30th birthday. 

1255
00:48:48,890 --> 00:48:51,980
And I actually think in the 
modern day, when I was younger, 

1256
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:54,960
you said that to me. 
I've been gutted, Gutted. 

1257
00:48:54,970 --> 00:48:57,300
If you told me I had my first 
kid at 30, I'd have been 

1258
00:48:57,370 --> 00:48:58,880
devastated. 
Like, what went wrong? 

1259
00:48:59,230 --> 00:49:00,580
Like what on earth? 
What happened? 

1260
00:49:00,590 --> 00:49:02,520
Why? 
But actually, funnily enough, I 

1261
00:49:02,530 --> 00:49:05,230
think in this day and age as 
we've grown up, that's part of 

1262
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:07,470
the course. 
And not anything, it's probably 

1263
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,830
like a couple of years. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1264
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,730
So so the the only thing I think
now to myself is ohh, I do want 

1265
00:49:12,740 --> 00:49:15,970
like 3. 
So I need to like yeah, I can't 

1266
00:49:15,980 --> 00:49:17,490
be fat. 
I don't be 38. 

1267
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:19,670
Yeah, I need, you know what 
you're gonna say. 

1268
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:20,420
Yeah. 
And it might happen. 

1269
00:49:20,430 --> 00:49:22,340
Yeah, that's fine. 
That'd be absolutely the same as

1270
00:49:22,350 --> 00:49:23,940
you. 20, think. 
Ohh, no, 30. 

1271
00:49:23,950 --> 00:49:25,930
So I can't imagine being a 
situation where I don't want 

1272
00:49:25,940 --> 00:49:28,310
another kid. 
Yeah, which I know I need young.

1273
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,930
I know a lot of older parents 
who've had kids in their 40s and

1274
00:49:30,940 --> 00:49:33,760
it's like, you know what, When 
their kids are like 18 and 

1275
00:49:33,770 --> 00:49:36,800
they're in their 60s or near 
60s, whatever they always like, 

1276
00:49:36,810 --> 00:49:38,270
they keep some youthful young, 
you know? 

1277
00:49:38,530 --> 00:49:40,050
But you you weren't that 
bothered by having. 

1278
00:49:40,060 --> 00:49:41,760
Kids, No, not at all. 
I was very different to you. 

1279
00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:44,060
We were this is probably one 
thing that we're very different 

1280
00:49:44,070 --> 00:49:46,120
on. 
I think if I, if I had a kid at 

1281
00:49:46,130 --> 00:49:49,230
like 25, I would have had a 
breakdown, but genuinely, 

1282
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:52,030
because I would absolutely did 
not want kids like all the way 

1283
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,770
through my 20s. 
It wasn't until I didn't, I 

1284
00:49:54,780 --> 00:49:56,430
didn't even I know this is going
to sound really awful. 

1285
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,840
I'm just going to be brutally 
honest. 

1286
00:49:57,930 --> 00:50:00,960
I didn't really like like 
toddler kids. 

1287
00:50:00,970 --> 00:50:03,130
Like even in teaching, I was 
like, I stuck to key stage two. 

1288
00:50:03,140 --> 00:50:04,080
I was like, I don't want to 
teach. 

1289
00:50:04,090 --> 00:50:05,760
Too young, bro. 
Oh, that's very normal. 

1290
00:50:05,770 --> 00:50:07,280
But like you said, you know you 
like babies. 

1291
00:50:07,290 --> 00:50:08,690
We didn't. 
I didn't really have babies in 

1292
00:50:08,700 --> 00:50:11,450
the family for a bit, but we're 
close enough age where I was 

1293
00:50:11,460 --> 00:50:14,200
still like little kid myself, so
I didn't really pay attention to

1294
00:50:14,210 --> 00:50:16,520
it. 
And yeah, so all through my 20s 

1295
00:50:16,530 --> 00:50:18,660
I was like, no, no, no, not 
really, not really. 

1296
00:50:18,730 --> 00:50:20,850
And it wasn't and it was a very 
quick switch. 

1297
00:50:20,860 --> 00:50:23,280
So I don't have any. 
If you listeners, particularly 

1298
00:50:23,290 --> 00:50:26,300
blokes, if you're in the same 
sort of boat, have had this same

1299
00:50:26,310 --> 00:50:28,860
experience. 
But I went from thinking 

1300
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:30,840
absolutely not. 
Were you also? 

1301
00:50:30,850 --> 00:50:33,060
Very quickly to clarify, when 
you thought that, did you think 

1302
00:50:33,070 --> 00:50:34,930
not ever or were you just? 
Like no, no, I was just not 

1303
00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:36,640
right now. 
I I always had the idea was 

1304
00:50:36,650 --> 00:50:38,900
like, probably want kids. 
You probably want kids, but had 

1305
00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:41,140
reserved the idea. 
But you'd be gutted if it was 

1306
00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:42,410
right. 
Now, yeah, absolutely would have

1307
00:50:42,420 --> 00:50:44,970
been absolutely even like 20. 
OK, that makes sense. 

1308
00:50:44,980 --> 00:50:45,310
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1309
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,820
But I got to maybe like 29. 
I was approaching 30 and. 

1310
00:50:48,830 --> 00:50:51,410
Big thing isn't. 
It what it was, but it's so 

1311
00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:54,390
bizarre. 
It's something in my head just 

1312
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,510
switch and and I was like, oh 
man, I want to I want a kid and 

1313
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,890
I really did want. 
I just I don't know what it was.

1314
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:03,530
It was very bizarre, but. 
There's no tangible reason 

1315
00:51:03,540 --> 00:51:05,210
behind it. 
I think there is a little bit I 

1316
00:51:05,220 --> 00:51:08,630
think it was I was getting bored
and you know how you said I had 

1317
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,180
I had my whole 20s to just be 
airless and normally do much 

1318
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:13,460
like we we bought we're very 
lucky because we had bought a 

1319
00:51:13,470 --> 00:51:17,720
house and when I was about 25, 
so I kind of had that that 

1320
00:51:17,730 --> 00:51:20,440
honeymoon period was over of 
like, oh, we bought has really 

1321
00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:22,300
cool was that we lived in a 
house now for, you know, a few 

1322
00:51:22,310 --> 00:51:23,800
years. 
First house, first house. 

1323
00:51:23,810 --> 00:51:25,030
Yeah, yeah, sorry you're on your
second. 

1324
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,560
Yeah, I didn't go on TV and win 
loads of money. 

1325
00:51:29,860 --> 00:51:33,810
And maybe you should. 
My life, I felt like it was 

1326
00:51:33,820 --> 00:51:34,670
lacking a bit of. 
Purpose. 

1327
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,150
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, and I think that's what it

1328
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,520
was. 
I just felt a bit empty. 

1329
00:51:38,570 --> 00:51:41,140
Yeah. 
And I kind of filled that in my 

1330
00:51:41,150 --> 00:51:43,580
brain with I think I'm having a 
kid would fill that and it did. 

1331
00:51:43,630 --> 00:51:46,710
So there's the end of my story 
is I think that is why I'd say I

1332
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:50,020
don't regret having children is 
because it has filled this weird

1333
00:51:50,130 --> 00:51:53,280
purpose hole for me. 
And I am someone that just I, 

1334
00:51:53,290 --> 00:51:56,020
you know, I constantly need 
something like our business like

1335
00:51:56,030 --> 00:51:57,820
teaching was great for couple of
years and I don't need something

1336
00:51:57,830 --> 00:51:58,840
else. 
We started a business that was 

1337
00:51:58,850 --> 00:52:00,580
great for couple of years. 
We started a podcast about 

1338
00:52:00,790 --> 00:52:04,550
constantly needs something so 
having having a baby, it fills 

1339
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,300
that and and more. 
So has it been then, because 

1340
00:52:08,310 --> 00:52:12,240
we've let's reflect on the six 
to eight months because my, my 

1341
00:52:12,250 --> 00:52:13,520
first point that's just get out 
there. 

1342
00:52:13,530 --> 00:52:14,680
So we have to talk about it 
anymore. 

1343
00:52:14,690 --> 00:52:16,800
Is that the number one thing 
that we did to help with the 

1344
00:52:16,810 --> 00:52:18,560
fact with parents now is that we
went part-time. 

1345
00:52:18,650 --> 00:52:22,360
Like we are so present and I'm 
so grateful that I'm able to be 

1346
00:52:22,370 --> 00:52:26,040
really present with Rory where 
we work. 

1347
00:52:26,050 --> 00:52:29,140
My school's 10 minutes away from
my house anyway, and I only have

1348
00:52:29,150 --> 00:52:30,840
to go in three times a week 
during time time. 

1349
00:52:30,890 --> 00:52:32,950
Like the amount of time I get to
spend at home and being in 

1350
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,740
control of my time doesn't mean 
that whole I'm always here. 

1351
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:38,010
We could run the business and we
do other things and you know. 

1352
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,300
We're. 
We're around that. 

1353
00:52:39,310 --> 00:52:41,670
Yeah, that that you know, I am 
literally 2 rooms away. 

1354
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,390
Yeah, I'm very grateful. 
I don't wanna put people's backs

1355
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,310
up about that because I think 
most, no, no, but no. 

1356
00:52:45,580 --> 00:52:48,230
But but all I wanna say is like 
we we've gotta talk about 

1357
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:51,760
personal experience and I think 
we can't now talk about our six 

1358
00:52:51,770 --> 00:52:54,060
to eight months experience about
just laying the fact that I 

1359
00:52:54,070 --> 00:52:56,070
don't everyone to hear how 
lovely it is that we spent so 

1360
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,770
much time. 
Our kids are not realise that 

1361
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,450
it's not because you're choosing
not to if you're working full 

1362
00:53:00,460 --> 00:53:03,330
time like it's because we're 
fortunate enough that we are at 

1363
00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:05,920
home. 
So when I ask you now, how's it 

1364
00:53:05,930 --> 00:53:08,860
been? 
Hmm, in that context, how has it

1365
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:10,460
been? 
Great. 

1366
00:53:11,110 --> 00:53:13,100
No, I don't know. 
I don't know what to say really.

1367
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:16,160
It's nice that we are around so 
much. 

1368
00:53:16,170 --> 00:53:17,660
It's nice. 
But however, I will say there is

1369
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:19,940
a big misconception I think from
a lot of people that we know 

1370
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,900
that on those days, on those 
days we're. 

1371
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:23,320
Working on days off, are you 
going? 

1372
00:53:23,330 --> 00:53:24,340
To say our days off. 
Yeah. 

1373
00:53:24,350 --> 00:53:26,000
Because they're not. 
And actually, if anything, we're

1374
00:53:26,010 --> 00:53:27,600
busier than ever at the moment. 
I think. 

1375
00:53:27,650 --> 00:53:29,800
I don't know about you, but I 
think before we were quite 

1376
00:53:29,810 --> 00:53:30,690
scatty. 
Yeah. 

1377
00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:32,240
Yeah. 
So if on a Thursday and Friday 

1378
00:53:32,250 --> 00:53:34,300
we're like, let's have a couple 
of hours off and do something, 

1379
00:53:34,310 --> 00:53:35,640
we'll just catch up on the 
weekend. 

1380
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,410
Now it's a bit like no weekends.
A bit more sacred now actually, 

1381
00:53:38,420 --> 00:53:39,930
because I want to spend time as 
a. 

1382
00:53:39,940 --> 00:53:41,710
Family and wider family, that's 
when they're. 

1383
00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:43,660
Yeah. 
So on Thursdays and Fridays now 

1384
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,730
when we're on our part time 
days, we're at home we're so I 

1385
00:53:46,740 --> 00:53:49,520
find that we're more busy than 
ever and we will do like a 10/12

1386
00:53:49,530 --> 00:53:50,870
hour day. 
But do you find it's made you 

1387
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,790
more productive outside of 
school like and like in terms of

1388
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,530
everything having the. 
Kids so much more, so much more 

1389
00:53:56,540 --> 00:53:59,370
productive just getting it done.
Just getting stuff done in 

1390
00:53:59,380 --> 00:54:01,570
certain time frames. 
Thinking I don't have any other 

1391
00:54:01,580 --> 00:54:02,630
time to do this. 
I have to do it. 

1392
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,950
I can't just procrastinate. 
I've got to get it done. 

1393
00:54:05,090 --> 00:54:07,160
What about you? 
Yeah, yeah, I think, I think 

1394
00:54:07,170 --> 00:54:08,930
exactly that. 
I think it's just made me, it's 

1395
00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:10,740
made me more organised in that 
respect. 

1396
00:54:11,410 --> 00:54:15,750
I I, you know, I feel guilty if 
I'm spending more time on 

1397
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,230
something that I have to umm, I 
feel guilty, right. 

1398
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,040
Doing anything that doesn't have
to be done. 

1399
00:54:21,220 --> 00:54:22,770
That isn't with worry. 
Rory. 

1400
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,550
Yeah. 
So what a big example of this is

1401
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:30,610
we went out for lunch the other 
day, Lauren's parents came to 

1402
00:54:30,620 --> 00:54:33,330
see Rory and we had to nip out 
to get something because we're, 

1403
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,290
we're ongoing decorating the 
house. 

1404
00:54:35,330 --> 00:54:37,560
So I think we have to go out to 
get some paint or something like

1405
00:54:37,570 --> 00:54:38,950
that. 
We had to go and get something 

1406
00:54:39,020 --> 00:54:40,950
and it was something where 
realistically is both of us 

1407
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,900
needed to go to decide what we 
wanted in the house. 

1408
00:54:43,290 --> 00:54:45,460
So a lot of Lauren's parents 
around, we were like, oh, do you

1409
00:54:45,470 --> 00:54:46,700
mind just looking after him for 
a bit? 

1410
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:49,380
We done a couple of times where 
we just nipped out and left Rory

1411
00:54:49,390 --> 00:54:51,280
with them, which is again, fine 
with grandparents. 

1412
00:54:51,290 --> 00:54:53,830
That's lovely. 
But we went out and we were 

1413
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,940
like, yes, and lunch. 
So we, we got some lunch and we 

1414
00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:59,090
went to ask, you know, like a 
proper restaurant 1st. 

1415
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:00,950
And it was actually the first 
time we'd gone to do that 

1416
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,030
because we only have nipped out 
to the shop or something. 

1417
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,790
Yeah. 
And we were like, we ordered our

1418
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,530
food and we've been in the 
restaurant for like 10 minutes 

1419
00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:15,050
and Laurence phone notification 
popped up and her background is 

1420
00:55:15,060 --> 00:55:17,200
a rotating Marcel Rory pictures 
or something. 

1421
00:55:17,370 --> 00:55:19,800
And so Rory's face popped up and
I nearly started crying. 

1422
00:55:20,090 --> 00:55:21,860
Like, I'm not even joking, 
honestly. 

1423
00:55:21,870 --> 00:55:22,620
Yeah. 
Little while. 

1424
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:24,460
Yeah. 
But I, I literally honest to God

1425
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:27,140
was I had to sell a phone away 
because I couldn't look at him 

1426
00:55:27,150 --> 00:55:30,600
because I felt so much guilt in 
that moment. 

1427
00:55:30,650 --> 00:55:33,200
Yeah, not that we've gone out, 
but the fact we were doing 

1428
00:55:33,210 --> 00:55:34,800
something we just didn't have to
do. 

1429
00:55:34,930 --> 00:55:36,700
So we didn't have to go for 
lunch. 

1430
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:38,560
We could have just nipped to the
shop and gone home again. 

1431
00:55:38,650 --> 00:55:41,370
And Long was like, you you've 
been to work. 

1432
00:55:41,380 --> 00:55:42,960
Like, yeah, but I know you're 
with him. 

1433
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:44,820
Yeah, I know you're with Matt's 
mum. 

1434
00:55:44,890 --> 00:55:47,680
And I know that I have go to 
work, so you're home with his 

1435
00:55:47,690 --> 00:55:49,820
mum. 
But there was something about 

1436
00:55:49,830 --> 00:55:52,760
the fact that we didn't have to 
be enjoying ourselves. 

1437
00:55:53,450 --> 00:55:56,200
Like I've never felt guilty for 
enjoying myself. 

1438
00:55:56,210 --> 00:55:58,360
And it was the fact we were both
out doing it. 

1439
00:55:58,610 --> 00:56:00,760
I felt horrendous. 
I felt horrible guilt, if you 

1440
00:56:00,770 --> 00:56:02,350
felt that at all. 
Yeah, Honestly, no. 

1441
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,660
Because you don't love your 
child. 

1442
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:04,880
Yeah. 
No, no, I don't know. 

1443
00:56:05,230 --> 00:56:06,670
No, I think we're very different
with that. 

1444
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:07,820
Yeah. 
You're really. 

1445
00:56:07,830 --> 00:56:13,990
Really, I think as long as long 
as you safe, hmm, and and happy 

1446
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,280
that I'm happy, you know, I 
mean, that's it. 

1447
00:56:15,290 --> 00:56:18,590
So when she's with my mum or 
Lauren's mum, I know that she 

1448
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,360
loves being with them and she 
doesn't like, you know, if she 

1449
00:56:21,370 --> 00:56:23,530
was one of those papers then got
really upset, but she didn't 

1450
00:56:23,540 --> 00:56:27,090
want she like detachment, then 
I'd probably feel quite guilty. 

1451
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:29,510
But because she's just 
absolutely fine and loves it. 

1452
00:56:29,820 --> 00:56:31,990
As long as I know she's safe and
happy, I'm just that's fine. 

1453
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,810
But we did our first thing like 
that as well. 

1454
00:56:34,820 --> 00:56:37,890
The last month we went out for a
Sunday roast and it was because 

1455
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:40,750
the mind Lawrence Anniversary 
seven years and yeah, we went 

1456
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,260
out for for a roast dinner. 
With seven-year Itch. 

1457
00:56:43,610 --> 00:56:45,670
Seven-year itch yeah yeah, we've
got roast dinner. 

1458
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:46,320
That's. 
What ours is. 

1459
00:56:47,090 --> 00:56:48,900
And that was kind of, but we 
were like, oh, this is nice, 

1460
00:56:48,910 --> 00:56:50,320
isn't it? 
Because obviously restaurants 

1461
00:56:50,330 --> 00:56:51,860
were babies, especially with our
baby. 

1462
00:56:51,870 --> 00:56:54,380
Jesus Christ is just a bit of a 
nightmare. 

1463
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:56,400
But I didn't feel I didn't feel 
guilty at all. 

1464
00:56:56,670 --> 00:56:58,270
I like I said, I think I would 
if. 

1465
00:56:59,030 --> 00:57:01,720
She was the Royals, Having a 
bank was having a great time. 

1466
00:57:01,790 --> 00:57:05,160
It was my own personal like. 
Yeah, ohh God, that's a you 

1467
00:57:05,170 --> 00:57:06,750
thing that. 
Very much, yeah. 

1468
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:07,980
And you're a bit like that you 
anyway. 

1469
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:10,480
I mean, I know you get quite 
anxious and nervous like about 

1470
00:57:10,490 --> 00:57:12,140
leaving him or whatever. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1471
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:14,700
I just, there's something about,
you know, I spent the first two 

1472
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:16,700
weeks of his life staring and 
making sure he's breathing and 

1473
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:19,350
like, yeah, like, honestly, like
looking back now, I think it's 

1474
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,880
insane. 
It's of course he's breathing. 

1475
00:57:20,890 --> 00:57:22,440
He's a bit like, of course it 
is. 

1476
00:57:22,550 --> 00:57:25,800
But I sat up and for hours, and 
I'm not even exaggerating, for 

1477
00:57:25,810 --> 00:57:28,990
hours I would just be staring at
his chest looking for small 

1478
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,850
movements. 
Yep, Yep. 

1479
00:57:30,890 --> 00:57:33,120
OK, cool. 
Not like to state that. 

1480
00:57:33,130 --> 00:57:34,350
And I was like, no. 
No, no, no. 

1481
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,460
Because he worked. 
He might. 

1482
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:37,520
That's Might. 
Just stop. 

1483
00:57:37,530 --> 00:57:38,880
Stop. 
Moving and if it did, stop it 

1484
00:57:38,890 --> 00:57:40,500
because I'd obviously make it 
happen again. 

1485
00:57:40,510 --> 00:57:41,860
Yeah, I didn't know what to. 
Do anything? 

1486
00:57:41,870 --> 00:57:44,110
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, let's talk because look at

1487
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,600
the time, like an hour in. 
Let's quickly talk about work 

1488
00:57:47,650 --> 00:57:50,420
and and parenting and just how 
it's affected. 

1489
00:57:50,430 --> 00:57:52,480
I'm gonna ask you a very open 
question. 

1490
00:57:52,550 --> 00:57:56,100
How do you think having a child 
has changed your life as a 

1491
00:57:56,110 --> 00:58:00,250
teacher? 
It cemented the direction it was

1492
00:58:00,260 --> 00:58:06,310
going in any way, which was far 
less drive and desire to go 

1493
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,870
above and beyond. 
I think it was already happening

1494
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,080
and it's already on that 
trajectory for a lot of teachers

1495
00:58:12,090 --> 00:58:16,070
because we're fed up with rising
workload, squeezed pay and 

1496
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,030
seeing other professions get on.
Only this week there are 

1497
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,770
statistics put out about teacher
retention and recruitment. 

1498
00:58:21,780 --> 00:58:23,140
Again. 
The government missed again 

1499
00:58:23,150 --> 00:58:24,650
their target for recruitment 
teachers. 

1500
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:27,930
They missed it nine out of the 
last 10 years that there is a 

1501
00:58:27,940 --> 00:58:30,540
reason why this is happening. 
And when someone smuggling on 

1502
00:58:30,550 --> 00:58:33,160
the Internet says, well, why 
don't you leave then if it's so 

1503
00:58:33,170 --> 00:58:35,660
hard, I, I want to shake them 
and say we are. 

1504
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:38,150
And that's a massive problem. 
We don't have enough teachers to

1505
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:39,800
fix it. 
That's what's happening. 

1506
00:58:39,870 --> 00:58:42,520
So if that's your, if that's 
your way of fixing this is for 

1507
00:58:42,530 --> 00:58:45,340
the problem to get worse, then 
you have no idea what you're 

1508
00:58:45,350 --> 00:58:48,020
talking about. 
And so I think I'm not going to 

1509
00:58:48,030 --> 00:58:50,560
pretend that it completely 
changed my outlook on teaching 

1510
00:58:50,570 --> 00:58:54,580
because I don't think it did. 
It just cemented what I was 

1511
00:58:54,590 --> 00:58:57,440
already going the path down and 
now I'm 100% there. 

1512
00:58:57,450 --> 00:59:02,080
I'm like, I am not going to do 
anything that I don't have to do

1513
00:59:02,090 --> 00:59:05,830
in that job, which is not a 
detriment to my my children in 

1514
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:06,500
my class. 
Yeah. 

1515
00:59:06,510 --> 00:59:11,250
So, for example, if there is a 
display to be put up and that 

1516
00:59:11,260 --> 00:59:13,650
means I have to stay in school 
from half four till five when I 

1517
00:59:13,660 --> 00:59:16,210
could go home to Rory, I won't 
put the display up. 

1518
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,110
Yeah, because I've made the 
decision that that is not 

1519
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,210
detrimental to my children's 
progress in my class. 

1520
00:59:21,220 --> 00:59:24,190
What if it's in your classroom? 
I again have made that decision 

1521
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,560
that as a teacher I can teach 
the children well. 

1522
00:59:26,570 --> 00:59:28,920
And if I can do it in the car, 
if it's if it's absolutely vital

1523
00:59:28,930 --> 00:59:32,380
for whatever reason, then I will
try and make my teaching 

1524
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:35,170
assistant get some time to do it
during the day or me if I get 

1525
00:59:35,180 --> 00:59:37,680
some time during PA. 
Yeah, but like I said in a few 

1526
00:59:37,690 --> 00:59:39,790
episodes ago, which my top tips 
I think for a teacher while 

1527
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:44,570
being that we did prioritising 
what is best for my class and 

1528
00:59:44,580 --> 00:59:47,030
doing those things first and 
when I run out of time that that

1529
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,410
list stops. 
Yeah, so you know, it's funny 

1530
00:59:49,420 --> 00:59:51,530
cause what you said is very 
logical and actually how most 

1531
00:59:51,540 --> 00:59:52,830
jobs work ever. 
Yeah, I know. 

1532
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,790
I think, I reckon a lot of 
people are listening right now 

1533
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,070
thinking that's it makes you 
sound bad. 

1534
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,100
It makes you sound lazy. 
Lazy teacher doesn't do the job 

1535
01:00:00,110 --> 01:00:00,880
properly. 
That's what it. 

1536
01:00:00,890 --> 01:00:04,010
Sounds like it's, it's, it's 
insane because what we always 

1537
01:00:04,020 --> 01:00:06,850
like miss out on these lists. 
And when we say stuff like this,

1538
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:09,830
when I say as a teacher, I'm 
not, I'm not saying from half 

1539
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:14,280
four till five to do a display. 
What is not even remotely 

1540
01:00:14,290 --> 01:00:17,060
thought about is the amount of 
time I put into planning my 

1541
01:00:17,070 --> 01:00:19,300
lessons and delivering them that
day and then marking them. 

1542
01:00:19,490 --> 01:00:23,630
So it's like, hey, that we, we 
kind of just forget the job and 

1543
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,280
then we judge people on how much
extra they do for free. 

1544
01:00:26,290 --> 01:00:29,020
So yeah, we all go, OK, well, 
it's we all teach all day. 

1545
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:31,350
We all plan lessons, all market.
Let's put that in a box. 

1546
01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:33,380
The only thing I'm actually 
going to judge you as a teacher 

1547
01:00:33,390 --> 01:00:34,820
is all the extra stuff where you
stay later. 

1548
01:00:34,860 --> 01:00:36,690
So if you do that, well, you're 
a great teacher, aren't you? 

1549
01:00:36,700 --> 01:00:38,830
Look, you're fantastic. 
Displays your pub and look at 

1550
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,300
that amazing thing you did and 
you state cross country. 

1551
01:00:41,770 --> 01:00:43,550
Yeah, Jackie is like, well, you 
didn't do that. 

1552
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,300
You must be awful teacher. 
So we we are completely ignoring

1553
01:00:46,310 --> 01:00:48,830
this box here which is full of 
my full time job, that that's my

1554
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,370
job there. 
My job is the planning, 

1555
01:00:50,380 --> 01:00:52,450
delivering and marking and 
assessment of lessons. 

1556
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,630
Do not judge teachers on how 
much of the extra stuff they do.

1557
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:56,550
That's insane. 
OK. 

1558
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,430
So do you think being a parent 
has impacted the main bit, the 

1559
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,270
bit in the box for you or do you
think you still do that as well 

1560
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,270
or as efficiently or as, I don't
know, passionately as before? 

1561
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:12,560
I do the same as what I did 
before Rory. 

1562
01:01:12,740 --> 01:01:14,780
Hmm. 
But what I did before Rory was 

1563
01:01:14,790 --> 01:01:16,400
different to what I did at the 
start of my career. 

1564
01:01:16,590 --> 01:01:20,200
So again, just reiterating that 
point that I I was on this 

1565
01:01:20,210 --> 01:01:21,910
journey anyway. 
I'm reducing my workload. 

1566
01:01:22,050 --> 01:01:23,560
Yeah. 
I was already on this journey 

1567
01:01:23,570 --> 01:01:25,540
where I didn't plan everything 
from scratch, which I used to 

1568
01:01:25,550 --> 01:01:27,160
do. 
I was already on this journey 

1569
01:01:27,170 --> 01:01:30,170
of, OK, I'm long in the tooth 
enough now as a teacher to not 

1570
01:01:30,180 --> 01:01:32,340
have to do everything 
intricately on the slides 

1571
01:01:32,350 --> 01:01:33,880
anymore. 
I can deliver a good lesson, 

1572
01:01:34,450 --> 01:01:36,390
almost adlib knowing what we're 
going to do. 

1573
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,620
But just modelling stuff and 
doing it together. 

1574
01:01:39,090 --> 01:01:41,110
That was already happening. 
Rory didn't. 

1575
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,620
Rory didn't actually change the 
trajectory he might have. 

1576
01:01:43,630 --> 01:01:45,770
Accelerated it, yeah. 
So if I look at the quality of 

1577
01:01:45,780 --> 01:01:47,820
your teaching, if I could go 
back in time and actually just 

1578
01:01:47,830 --> 01:01:50,270
just assess you as a teacher, 
the effectiveness of you doing 

1579
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,760
your main job, none of the 
outside stuff, none of the above

1580
01:01:52,770 --> 01:01:55,590
and beyond stuff, you wouldn't, 
you wouldn't say that that's 

1581
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,130
dropped because of quality. 
Thanks as well. 

1582
01:01:59,170 --> 01:02:01,580
I know, but money that that 
hasn't dropped for you because I

1583
01:02:01,590 --> 01:02:04,070
know you and I just want to make
that really clear because I 

1584
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:08,080
think that that makes a big 
distinction between doing that. 

1585
01:02:08,130 --> 01:02:10,500
We still take our job very 
seriously and do the job 

1586
01:02:10,550 --> 01:02:12,920
properly and kids learn really 
well still. 

1587
01:02:12,970 --> 01:02:15,270
To really important job, to 
really important job. 

1588
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,180
And you're right, because we can
give the impression sometimes 

1589
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:18,930
that we're so flippant. 
About stuff, I don't care about 

1590
01:02:18,940 --> 01:02:21,160
the job. 
No, I care just as much as I 

1591
01:02:21,170 --> 01:02:24,580
always did about the job. 
It's just that we never talk 

1592
01:02:24,590 --> 01:02:26,080
about the job. 
We talk about, like you said, 

1593
01:02:26,130 --> 01:02:27,600
all of the stuff that goes 
around it. 

1594
01:02:27,610 --> 01:02:30,370
That is just a weird expectation
that you just do for free in 

1595
01:02:30,380 --> 01:02:32,630
your own time. 
Sacrifice, be a martyr to 

1596
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,610
education is no, I'm not going 
to do anymore. 

1597
01:02:34,900 --> 01:02:36,470
No, it's like, honestly, I got 
in. 

1598
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,470
I got in at half seven this 
morning to prep my lessons and I

1599
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,210
delivered them and then I marked
them after school. 

1600
01:02:41,540 --> 01:02:45,140
Yeah, I am leaving at half four.
Hmm, no, I'm not. 

1601
01:02:45,150 --> 01:02:46,120
No, I'm not doing. 
That. 

1602
01:02:46,130 --> 01:02:47,810
Yeah, yeah. 
Because actually, I, I know this

1603
01:02:47,820 --> 01:02:49,120
weekend I'm gonna do some 
planning as well. 

1604
01:02:49,130 --> 01:02:50,570
Yeah. 
Because that's not been done for

1605
01:02:50,580 --> 01:02:51,170
next week. 
Yeah. 

1606
01:02:51,180 --> 01:02:52,800
Because we've changed our 
curriculum and we're doing this,

1607
01:02:52,810 --> 01:02:55,060
you know, these things happen 
and and I, I work. 

1608
01:02:55,070 --> 01:02:59,170
I I'd say I work most weekends 
at least you know. 

1609
01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:01,630
At least every other. 
At least every other and when I 

1610
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,050
do it's at least an hour or two 
so like. 

1611
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,680
Which is just not what would 
happen if you were just doing a 

1612
01:03:07,690 --> 01:03:09,750
different job where you know you
left your work. 

1613
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,900
I'm not saying I have a job to 
stress free either. 

1614
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:14,850
That's like a really annoying 
thing that gets posted to me 

1615
01:03:14,860 --> 01:03:18,190
online on Instagram and stuff. 
It's like, well, we have a have 

1616
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,930
a stressful job. 
So I didn't say anything about 

1617
01:03:19,940 --> 01:03:22,250
your job. 
Me saying that teaching is 

1618
01:03:22,260 --> 01:03:25,570
stressful was not me saying that
your job is not just stop. 

1619
01:03:25,580 --> 01:03:28,060
It's not a race to the bottom 
how hard we've all got it. 

1620
01:03:28,130 --> 01:03:30,860
Yeah, we are. 
Just my experience is that it's 

1621
01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:33,290
a tough weird job of weird. 
Expectations which can make it 

1622
01:03:33,300 --> 01:03:34,410
work. 
You gotta make what you've got 

1623
01:03:34,420 --> 01:03:39,140
work a lot of times and people, 
I just want to finish by coming 

1624
01:03:39,150 --> 01:03:41,740
back to this right when people 
say you mentioned this, when 

1625
01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:45,230
people say just get another job,
then I hate that argument so 

1626
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:46,060
much. 
And if you ever use that 

1627
01:03:46,070 --> 01:03:48,480
argument, please, please, please
stop using it as a really, 

1628
01:03:48,490 --> 01:03:50,920
really nonsense argument. 
I'll just get another job. 

1629
01:03:50,930 --> 01:03:53,940
We know people can get other 
jobs, but we also do want 

1630
01:03:53,950 --> 01:03:57,100
teachers and we do want nurses 
and we do want police like just 

1631
01:03:57,110 --> 01:03:58,990
telling them go get a better 
job. 

1632
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,780
Then it's like no is that 
doesn't fix the problem. 

1633
01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:03,530
So please stop using Argon. 
Anyone. 

1634
01:04:03,580 --> 01:04:06,170
So just got 55 insurance brokers
and no teachers. 

1635
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,650
So OK, well, no one's teaching 
our kids though. 

1636
01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:11,970
Yeah. 
And I would add to your point 

1637
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,490
and, and again, I'm not saying 
about insurance brokers, we need

1638
01:04:14,500 --> 01:04:16,050
them, OK? 
I'm just saying we need a 

1639
01:04:16,060 --> 01:04:19,650
breadth of different careers. 
Moving on from your point even 

1640
01:04:19,660 --> 01:04:21,710
further is we want to be 
teachers. 

1641
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:27,090
I want to be a teacher. 
I wish that I felt like my 

1642
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:31,430
teacher wage was enough to 
supplement my family and was 

1643
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,260
enough to support my family, but
it's not. 

1644
01:04:34,590 --> 01:04:37,860
So I can't control me getting a 
pay rise. 

1645
01:04:38,010 --> 01:04:40,000
So that's why we started our 
business. 

1646
01:04:40,190 --> 01:04:43,700
Yeah, we can control how much we
market and grow our business and

1647
01:04:43,710 --> 01:04:47,310
we can see a tangible return on 
on hours we put into that job. 

1648
01:04:47,410 --> 01:04:49,910
For example, we're opening up a 
service for year four and year 

1649
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,890
six children. 
We currently have a service just

1650
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:54,630
for year five children. 
We're about to triple our our 

1651
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,620
services, right. 
Even, you know, let's just say 

1652
01:04:57,630 --> 01:05:02,530
it goes kind of well, we might 
add 50% to 100% of our revenue 

1653
01:05:02,540 --> 01:05:06,440
next year, OK. 
That means that the time we put 

1654
01:05:06,450 --> 01:05:09,730
into opening that business, 
opening them avenues, now it's 

1655
01:05:09,740 --> 01:05:11,960
going to have a direct link to 
the amount of revenue we get 

1656
01:05:11,970 --> 01:05:14,900
through our business. 
That's not what happens with. 

1657
01:05:14,910 --> 01:05:16,560
Teaching. 
No, the more time you don't get.

1658
01:05:16,570 --> 01:05:17,520
Anything. 
You don't get anything. 

1659
01:05:17,530 --> 01:05:18,780
For us, there's no retention 
bonuses. 

1660
01:05:18,790 --> 01:05:21,480
Either, yeah, it's nothing. 
There's nothing to to keep keep 

1661
01:05:21,490 --> 01:05:22,880
us in the job. 
And that's why people are 

1662
01:05:22,890 --> 01:05:24,360
leaving. 
We have a crisis. 

1663
01:05:24,460 --> 01:05:26,220
Hmm. 
Crazy, right? 

1664
01:05:26,270 --> 01:05:27,840
One minute 10. 
I've got one last question. 

1665
01:05:27,850 --> 01:05:30,050
One minute, one minute 10. 
One hour 10. 

1666
01:05:30,060 --> 01:05:32,670
You got to keep it quick though,
OK, Because I want to ask. 

1667
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,340
This is the last question. 
This is the last question, 

1668
01:05:34,350 --> 01:05:38,680
right? 
About teaching Do you now treat 

1669
01:05:38,750 --> 01:05:42,690
teachers differently if if you 
know their parents and why if 

1670
01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:45,150
you do? 
Two parts of this question. 

1671
01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:48,390
Instinctively, yes. 
When I sit and think about it 

1672
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,670
for five seconds, I get annoyed 
at myself for doing that and I 

1673
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,990
make a point of not doing it. 
OK, why do you instinctively 

1674
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,400
treat teachers differently if 
you know their parents, the 

1675
01:05:55,410 --> 01:05:56,770
teachers that aren't? 
Parents, because I've 

1676
01:05:56,780 --> 01:05:59,770
experienced not being a parent 
and being a parent and the 

1677
01:05:59,780 --> 01:06:03,810
insane difference in amount of 
time and and freedom I have is, 

1678
01:06:03,860 --> 01:06:07,410
is I can't ignore that. 
I know how incredibly different 

1679
01:06:07,420 --> 01:06:11,250
life becomes once you have a 
baby, even down to just simply 

1680
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,750
the time in your life. 
Ignore the fact you have a 

1681
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,940
lovely, you know, card now you 
love with all your heart and 

1682
01:06:15,950 --> 01:06:17,700
you've got all this, I mean, 
attachment and stuff. 

1683
01:06:17,790 --> 01:06:20,180
OK, ignore that for a second. 
Quite simply, the amount of time

1684
01:06:20,190 --> 01:06:22,420
I have, any amount of sleep I 
get, any amount of functionality

1685
01:06:22,430 --> 01:06:25,570
I have is less after having 
Rory. 

1686
01:06:25,710 --> 01:06:28,830
So when someone tells me they've
had a baby, my initial thought 

1687
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,880
is, Oh my God, are you OK? 
How are you getting on? 

1688
01:06:31,890 --> 01:06:34,380
And if they say I need to rush, 
I can't do that tonight. 

1689
01:06:34,390 --> 01:06:36,160
I need to rush off because I've 
got a child. 

1690
01:06:36,310 --> 01:06:38,060
I'd be like, Oh my God, that's 
fine. 

1691
01:06:38,170 --> 01:06:40,420
Whereas if someone says I need 
to rush off, I don't want to do 

1692
01:06:40,430 --> 01:06:42,480
that. 
Your gut instinct is just ohh, 

1693
01:06:42,490 --> 01:06:45,240
OK, you know, I don't have that 
sympathy straight away. 

1694
01:06:45,330 --> 01:06:48,440
However, immediately when I when
I have that, because I've said 

1695
01:06:48,450 --> 01:06:50,600
before, well, I don't want to do
I've got Rory, I'm going home. 

1696
01:06:50,890 --> 01:06:53,980
I then after three seconds ago. 
And if anyone else doesn't want 

1697
01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:56,130
to do that just because they 
don't want to, that's enough of 

1698
01:06:56,140 --> 01:06:57,040
a reason. 
Equally fine. 

1699
01:06:57,050 --> 01:06:59,040
Yeah, that's fine. 
It's not because I've got a 

1700
01:06:59,050 --> 01:07:01,500
child, it's because it's extra 
work and I think you should be 

1701
01:07:01,510 --> 01:07:04,320
compensated for it. 
And and if you if you me having 

1702
01:07:04,330 --> 01:07:06,340
a child doesn't mean I get a get
out of gaol free card and you 

1703
01:07:06,350 --> 01:07:08,540
don't, everyone still has. 
To be smokers break. 

1704
01:07:08,610 --> 01:07:11,490
Yeah, is, is, is completely. 
And I know having a child is 

1705
01:07:11,500 --> 01:07:13,680
important and we're growing in 
society and we need people to 

1706
01:07:13,690 --> 01:07:16,670
replace those that don't care. 
Times of the job. 

1707
01:07:16,740 --> 01:07:19,610
I I really really really think 
that there shouldn't be a 

1708
01:07:19,620 --> 01:07:20,910
difference in how it treated. 
No. 

1709
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,850
So let's treat everyone like 
they've got a kid. 

1710
01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:25,060
Yeah, that's one way to do it. 
That should be the default it 

1711
01:07:25,070 --> 01:07:26,250
really. 
Isn't and there's there's two 

1712
01:07:26,260 --> 01:07:28,030
ways people go down. 
Same with like, ohh, these 

1713
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:29,810
benefit cheats. 
There's always two roads you can

1714
01:07:29,820 --> 01:07:33,130
go down, go down the road of 
treating everyone and and 

1715
01:07:33,140 --> 01:07:35,520
knowing some people will take 
advantage of the system or you 

1716
01:07:35,530 --> 01:07:37,330
don't give anyone anything 
knowing there are people who 

1717
01:07:37,340 --> 01:07:39,910
need something and it's like, 
but you can make people more. 

1718
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:41,630
But me personally? 
What do you mean? 

1719
01:07:41,740 --> 01:07:43,790
As in, like, if you treat them 
like they don't have kids, you 

1720
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,560
can manipulate people into doing
more stuff. 

1721
01:07:45,570 --> 01:07:46,990
Well, have kids. 
So, you know, you can go home. 

1722
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,740
You can go home. 
That's all I'm saying. 

1723
01:07:48,750 --> 01:07:50,180
I'm saying there are two 
options. 

1724
01:07:50,250 --> 01:07:52,790
Treat everyone, give them stuff.
Yeah. 

1725
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:55,860
And then what I'm saying is 
don't don't manipulate people 

1726
01:07:55,870 --> 01:07:57,410
because they don't have. 
Kids, I'm saying that's the 

1727
01:07:57,420 --> 01:07:58,260
other option. 
Don't do that. 

1728
01:07:58,910 --> 01:08:01,820
No, no, because I'm saying you'd
also not be treating people to 

1729
01:08:01,830 --> 01:08:02,930
have kids like they don't have 
kids. 

1730
01:08:02,940 --> 01:08:04,200
Yeah. 
So they miss out. 

1731
01:08:04,270 --> 01:08:05,030
Yeah. 
I'm not. 

1732
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,070
They wouldn't be. 
I've. 

1733
01:08:06,110 --> 01:08:07,580
No one would manipulate me. 
I've had a kid. 

1734
01:08:07,710 --> 01:08:09,000
Yeah. 
They don't manipulate me if I 

1735
01:08:09,010 --> 01:08:09,940
didn't. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1736
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:11,440
But that's just my point, 
though. 

1737
01:08:11,450 --> 01:08:13,110
Benefits. 
It's just like, no, there's 

1738
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:14,400
scroungers. 
There's no one should have 

1739
01:08:14,410 --> 01:08:16,819
anything. 
It's like, no, I'd rather 

1740
01:08:16,830 --> 01:08:18,760
someone take advantage than 
somebody needs something or get 

1741
01:08:18,770 --> 01:08:20,760
it. 
Yeah, so me too. 

1742
01:08:20,770 --> 01:08:22,399
I think I've really 
misunderstood your point. 

1743
01:08:22,410 --> 01:08:23,800
No, it's fine. 
It's good place. 

1744
01:08:23,810 --> 01:08:25,340
Terrifying. 
But I don't know what you. 

1745
01:08:25,350 --> 01:08:27,310
Mean I was. 
Just gonna got any one one 

1746
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:28,950
minute, 12 minutes. 
Was just an analogy. 

1747
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,540
Would be two seconds since 
morning 10. 

1748
01:08:30,609 --> 01:08:32,399
Yeah. 
So you've got time. 

1749
01:08:32,790 --> 01:08:34,399
Time. 
Wow, it's been long episode. 

1750
01:08:34,450 --> 01:08:36,279
Another one where I said let's 
do a short episode today. 

1751
01:08:36,350 --> 01:08:39,260
Yep, and another one way you say
let's do a short one and I say 

1752
01:08:39,270 --> 01:08:41,529
OK, and I just ignore that 
because I know we'll just change

1753
01:08:41,540 --> 01:08:44,420
forever whenever guys follow us 
on Instagram at Teach P podcast 

1754
01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:47,580
and I'm thinking we might have a
new artwork for our podcast 

1755
01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:49,520
soon. 
Ohh can't wait to not like. 

1756
01:08:49,529 --> 01:08:52,529
It Yeah and not do anything for 
it and just moan yeah, classic 

1757
01:08:52,540 --> 01:08:55,529
Hayden not doing anything 
moaning about everything yeah. 

1758
01:08:55,540 --> 01:08:57,930
Gene, any artists out there 
wanted to sign us and artworks 

1759
01:08:57,939 --> 01:09:00,319
to veto Dylan's version? 
Of it Any dentists out there? 

1760
01:09:00,330 --> 01:09:03,109
I want to check my teeth ohh. 
Let me know, Don't be them off 

1761
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,490
again. 
Guys follow us like us, rate 

1762
01:09:05,500 --> 01:09:08,090
U.S., star us, send us to your 
friends. 

1763
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,090
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1764
01:09:10,130 --> 01:09:11,149
See you next time.