Hayden. You know, when kids come up to
you and say, I've got a joke and 90% of the time, it's something
along the lines of what's pink and an animal.
And they say it's a pig and he expects a lot of usually
completely rubbish. But you laugh anyway.
Right, exactly. Well, sometimes it gets an
absolute Corker so here's my favorite ever joke from a child
ready? Okay.
A man walks into a Library walks up to the receptionist and says,
hi, how can I order some fish and chips?
Please, the receptionist replies.
Excuse me, sir. This is a library and the man
replies saying, oh, sorry, Can I some fishing trip?
Okay. Very good, very good.
What I've got one as well. You ready?
Why did the baker have smelly fingers?
I don't know, why did the baker has many fingers?
Because he needed a poo? Hello Ron!
Welcome back to episode 7 of teach sleep.
Repeat, my name is Dylan and my name is Hayden, and we've had
some lovely feedback from last week once more, and I think
Hayden one of the running themes.
Everything everyone said, to me this year is your story Daft
under. Yeah, people apparently like,
hearing about me being an idiot. So, I've actually got another
one of those stories for later on.
Excellent. We can maybe again, I know we've
got about 15 features at this point.
This new one every city every week, but I don't know.
We could think of something on the lines of you being a It is
crazy. Something about that?
Yeah, that sounds good. Okay, but yeah, in general,
thank you so much again, for the feedback, we say, it every week,
but we see the follows going up on Spotify.
We see the ratings going up, we see the retention Staying High,
and we're just so grateful for you guys to come back every
week. And for some reason, what to
listen to this, it's unbelievable to us.
Just one step closer to that podcast money isn't enough.
What we doing it for. What's that customers?
Yeah. Yeah, those customers are going
up. So these customers keep coming
for the door is exactly what want to see.
Anyway, Hayden you have a big week in education when we think
about it. We're going to come onto the
strikes later on. But before we get there, let's
just rip it back. And as always, we've condensed,
our weekly catch up to this podcast.
So I don't really know what's going on your week so far.
How's it been? Well, as you can tell those of
you that listening can't see this, but I'm wearing one of
those lovely hot bean bags around my neck.
You might have noticed That was you don't see my questions.
I know because so much about. You doesn't surprise me anymore.
I've known you too long. You just think he looks cool.
You could turn up in anything and I think I've got gold
Hayden's doing something. Well, it's very warm and it's
held my neck. Because my neck has been getting
progressively more painful every day.
This week, actually due to a horrific Whiplash accident of me
playing squash, right? And by horrific accident, I mean
absolutely nothing happened. Other than me, just playing
squash normally and I'm 30 now and apparently When you have,
you would know obviously being a very, very close to 30, man.
I'm just a baby, exactly you justice baby.
Why you don't, you have experienced this yet, right?
I'm in my thirties. Now I get Whiplash from squash.
So right. You know, that's so starting the
podcast off, strong with a story about you hurting your neck,
playing sport - yeah? Yeah.
Anything else going on this week?
Or, I mean, you're gonna hate me because I know you're a little
bit annoyed that I play Squash without you.
I also went to the driving range gone.
Okay, so Elephant in the room. Let's just address this out.
What better time than in front of an audience of people to
address. This have customers is horrible
whole Revelation that see if they're worried that, you know,
we used to play golf and play Squash quite a bit.
Now that we have no reason to invite you to my cousin, just
wants to play. And we just seem to have got
into a bit of To retain and that's how it starts, isn't it?
Ladies and gentlemen? That's not my cousin.
Just wanted to fly. Yeah, be 2025 if I see you in
that squash bug. And, you know, I really think
happened, you are sick of losing, didn't you?
Well, not really because he's even better than you.
I'm losing even more actually. So clearly I love losing.
I tell you what, I do, what you where you'll never see me again,
is on the golf course because I now hate golf after going to the
driving range, one time for the first time in months, that are
what I expected. But you just think you would be
good at, right? Uh, yeah, I was just obviously
Sports room. Obviously, I just remember how
to swing perfectly and, you know, Max and balls up there,
but that absolutely terrible. Absolutely, terrible honest.
Honestly, I don't think I hit a straight ball.
I've like the hundred balls I hit.
So, yeah, absolutely hate that game.
Now, terrible, terrible Sport and I don't know why you like
it. Cool.
Now that retentions nosedived after your two.
Excellent stories. Maybe the real fans can listen
to my we went. Okay, go on until what you're
weak. Well, it was a good one
obviously. A short one due to the
industrial action. But again, we'll come on that
later. I do have a couple of stories,
this week, that, that really did make me laugh.
One of them, we were in class and we are watching a video and
there's a YouTube video, you know, sometimes in class we have
a very short like one minute YouTube video that summarizes it
with visuals. And it's just a really nice
starting point for your lesson. And there was a guy on there,
just a cartoon animation and it was younger looking guy in smart
clothes with a beard and dark hair.
So, obviously, straight away. One of the children cause it's
you. It looks like you You and I was
it haha. Yeah.
Okay. But it's not there.
No. No.
The children then took that as a, the floodgates open basically
and they started shouting out and telling me exactly all the
people who I look like on. No, that's right.
Oh yeah, exactly. So sad.
So look at that. You know.
You look like that guy in the sighs.
No, no he doesn't. And I actually wrote them down
because I thought to myself. Yeah, taking this, here's the
list. This is, this is 100% genuine.
This week, the list of things or people, I say things.
Reason that the children that I look like okay.
Yeah the first one, the boy from Scooby-Doo which boy I said just
a boy who's get Shaggy apparently.
Yes. Okay, that'll be it.
Yeah, next one. That guy from the Telly that guy
good. Yeah, could be could be.
Yeah. It could be a big bird hair
Feathers Head a bit. Yep.
Gorilla that one. That's yeah, that's fair enough.
Yeah. Yeah.
My dad as in the children the child said, you don't know.
Do you like my dad? Yeah, okay.
Yeah. And the one that really made me
laugh at it because it's nowhere, it's just get just a
different guy. Now you know Wreck-It Ralph oh
my God, you do. Oh what what do you want to
Wreck it Ralph? You do posture?
Have you seen Wreck-It Ralph? Get a picture?
Yes, please, you look like wreckit-ralph that kid that kids
in like team points or something?
Okay, well that we know it's going in the end.
Granted. I don't we.
Yeah, we'll put. Okay, we'll do a vote.
Okay. Alright.
Does he like to think that like wreckit-ralph you do?
Well, that's good to know because I had down.
I thought what he talking about and I write that down thinking
that with the most controversial one.
Yes. I look nothing like him.
Wow. See about that.
I don't know. There's something there.
I think I think. Yeah.
I think it's the shoulders. I don't know, pretty much.
All right, let me self-conscious hugely broad.
Yeah, it's a bad thing and you let you wreck stuff.
You know like if you were you'd walk around dressed up ever
thugga maybe look a bit like a Ralph.
If it's gonna make you feel good which is saying that they're
breaking down each part of his name.
Yeah, it's okay. Fair enough, there was one other
thing and this really might, again, this is detrimental on
me, but I really be love you all with me action, this one.
So I can say the first half of the story and you will know, you
won't know the second half. So we kind of Gatecrash.
The club didn't me one day this week.
There's an after school club going on.
How are ya and the children making cards?
Because Mother's Day is coming up.
So the children making a card for someone at home that has to
be the mother could be any Person in their life and the
teacher was explaining this as Hayden and I walked in.
So, obviously being the nuisances we are, we then kind
of said to the class are so lovely.
So in an hour's time, I'll come back and I'll collect all my
cards to mr. Price for the children in there,
obviously, were in my class for maths and English, and you can
see them like, yeah. And I was like, cool, nice one.
Clearly, the teacher was like, what have you done that?
Because it's me, lovely cards for home.
Now, they're going to make cards for their teacher, so an hour
goes by and I nearly forget So it's just time for them to be
leaving, right? So I got a background to where
the club is, which is next to the door where the children go
out and they were just being excused, not only a few children
left, so go through the door and there's one child there who
turned trying to said, oh oh we're going to do the few next
week because they've decided actually next week there.
I think the teacher must have said, you know let's do one for
someone at home this week next week.
We'll do with mr. Fries.
Yeah. Yeah I'm going to do a next week
but I do next week and we're going to do and they started
listing things that the teachers obviously said that a my traits
that can be a Pitch. Piece of me, right?
So if ya got pain behind your ear, you've got a beard.
You've got a jumper because I usually wear a jumper with my
collar. You look like Ram.
Now other charts, it's a child. Yeah, right girl was kind of
just stood there staring at me looking a bit confused, but
wasn't looking at me was looking at like my jumper, like my
chest. And then she kind of looked up
at Mission that's been snowing. So what it is?
It's no doubt, it's nice. That it was what Scott's knowing
you dandruff Sandra. So passing dandruff, it was a
beard. Dandruff.
Yeah, my beard had got way too long.
You can see if you watch the reels, it's good.
You could start, I went home that day like immediately.
I'm shaving. My beard.
Being an older. Now, we now have your face by
such an insult. I said I was a kid, and I tell
you what, that kid knew it was not snow and they knew they were
doing you wrong. You know what, you know what,
you know what? I gen you.
Think this child for a word insane.
Honestly, okay, honestly, I mean she probably didn't.
Well that's what I think crying. It's your car next week.
Miss ya, goody tippex need to lose jumper so good.
I've actually been asked if I could get dandruff but I said
serious question because I'm bald.
So that's it kid has to get that off and I was like well no fun
enough. Just a greasy head.
Yes actually I do shampoo in my head head and shoulders.
I do. I do, I do I actually I think is
head and shoulders. I did you know this?
I'm sure I told you this know I use Head and Shoulders every
day. Every morning early, I shower
every more. I'm a morning person.
What? Yeah, why come on.
I want you to work out because the kids always ask me this and
I like what why? And I think the I think the
explanations fairly logical. Here's me thinking don't have
hair Logics gone. So what's okay.
So obviously I wash as normal like soap and all that but when
it comes to my head I just I still get greasy.
Like what Do you get greasy hair, right?
I still agree. Still happens.
It's just goes all over my scalp, so I use head and
shoulders in this at soap would be fine.
But I'm just, you know, I've convinced that it has said jobs.
I said head on it so that that was so.
So so it says in the shoulder so I do my shoulders as well.
Yeah, well, you could Harry shoulders but I I have to, I
just yeah, rinse. I get the grease off of its no,
I'm not sure my hair but I'm still watching my head.
You know, jump at that time, where we worked out that between
you and I we have exactly enough hair for two people.
It's just me. Yeah, we have reach out to the
right amount of hair. Okay.
This is getting weird to the hair.
Now on our bodies were, we're going to 47 episodes in, right?
These guys don't want to hear about.
I haven't the customers need to know all about us before they go
on to purchase the property, the merchandise of Wreck-It Ralph
t-shirt. So before we move on, there was
up, that's going to stick my nose in it.
You're gonna you gotta love that.
There's one other thing I want to talk about this week which is
both of us actually. So we're not telling each other
how this went because we were there in the room and as I think
we may have Mentioned before on this podcast, can't remember
Hayden. And I are the mass coordinate is
in our school and we are in that squeaky bum time as we like to
call it where ofsted never had that time, just like maybe like
a little child, we're ofsted are appending essentially you know,
it could be anytime great. And and yeah, as a result, I've
been Mass coordinators and very much looking as if our subject
will be the subject of a deep dive when it comes to ofsted
inspectors coming into a Go big push in a minute for us to get
prepared and as prepared as possible.
And as part of that this week, we met with a woman who's been
helping our school out but getting prepared as possible for
our stead when that eventually comes and we had a meeting with
her and, you know, I wanted to talk about this because there's
this culture, isn't there? Hayden in school and it's been
dubbed, mocks dead and it's very much, you know, it's got
negative Tendencies when we hear mocks Ted and I just wanted us
to discuss how What we did actually we came out of it,
feeling really positive and it's been really useful and how it
might contrast with what other people may have experienced
before with similar situations, from their school, trying to run
through what enough said process might be right.
Be like and get ready for it. So my yeah like my natural
instinct. When I hear mocks Ted is or
don't do that and if we did a higher Mach said I'd be like
really oh are we doing it in a box?
So in your opinion what do you think of when you think of moth
monster? Because I'm a very clear idea,
my yeah. So when I think of mock said, I
think of the whole show Bank like you are going to tell your
teachers that for the next two days or however long amongst
their not an ofsted inspection, might be for your school.
We're going to spend that amount of time pretending
wholeheartedly as a school that those ofsted inspectors walking
around. It just happens to be me, you
know the head teacher and someone else we're going to walk
around and we're going to box teju.
So we're going to come into your lessons.
We can observe. You were going to talk to all
the subject leaders. We're going to basically give
you a report and we're going to try to be ofsted right to give
you guys practice of what it's like to have off to come around.
And that's what I think of, as a mock said, the whole shebang we
have to prepare, right? And I think every subject leader
will say that being prepared makes them feel more.
Confident makes them feel more ready when from the time comes.
So there is a balancing act to do isn't there as as leadership
in a school where you want your staff to be ready and have gone
through the mill if there is so to say.
But the pressure pressure of a mock said, it's not necessarily
helpful and what we found was the way us could have done it
and especially from our point of view was really, really positive
because What was essentially was we were questioned as if we were
maybe in a meeting with ofsted, but it was it was way more
informal. It wasn't a whole day, it was a
chunk of the afternoon and it wasn't here.
The questions answer me. I'm not going to give anything.
I'm not going to lie. Yeah, an appeal.
Is it, was he exactly? It was here.
The questions. Tell me what you think, you
might say, here are some ideas about what else you could do.
And I'm kind of moving on from there.
So, from our point of view, having that kind of Middle
Ground, we force really Active. Then we and even just like the
things that he thinks the show, sometimes it was cheap, it
wasn't in that we gave a wrong answer, it was more like a
really cool but like make sure you just show these documents.
When you talk about the, make sure you have this up and that
up because then they can see these certain things and it was
just a few things we'd overlooked and like we do have
that we had those documents, we just didn't think of having them
right there with us at that time, we were like, oh yeah, of
course, that makes sense. So it was really helpful for us,
but yeah, I don't know. I can imagine, you know, I know
us and we're really passionate about mass as well, and that
role I can still imagine though for a lot of other people,
whether it's just their personality or because the
subjects completely different, maybe they're not as passionate
because at the end of the day, most subject leaders are kind of
just thrown into it. A primary schools, it's like,
oh, hey, on top of your teaching job.
By the way, you've got to do this, you just have to because
everyone does apparently. So, I imagine, I can imagine for
some people even that experience that we had, which we found
quite positive, probably, because we were really prepared,
and we're passionate, anyway, I imagine other people would still
find that really stressful, but I don't know.
I thought overall for us, it was the best version of what you
could call sort of class as a box.
Did I guess it wasn't a proper box set but I you know if we're
going to do it that's the way I do.
It just a little informal meeting with someone who's there
to help ask you some questions. Help you get prepared.
Not two days of walking around making you feel on edge, you
know? And it was really good.
Was that shoots, this woman was fantastic.
The questions were perfect, but and but she was external, you
know? And it was that idea of still
this is a strange. This isn't there.
The head. This isn't the assistant head
that we talk to on a regular Basis and liaise with this was
someone from the outside coming in saying no actually this is
what they're going to ask you and you need to convince me
there's no oh I kind of know this already where we can skip
over some stuff we had to really convince her as if she was an
outsider and I want to jump on what you just said about subject
leadership. Because it is really, really
interesting. And I'll be interested to know
any teachers listening if you lead a subject or not and what
subject is because like you said, there's this big thing
with schools where it is kind of a big rule in many schools that
you just need a subject. Where A single person has to
leave one of the subjects because if you think we need an
art leader Aditi leader geography, History Science re
English could be writing, could be reading math.
Yeah, you know, it's almost endless and you can share out
these leadership roles between the whole staff.
But there's a discrepancy even there between ofsted moving
towards a more wholesome approach.
Not just looking at data of mass in English, by actually looking
at your curriculum and The Wider kind of depth of curriculum.
That your children are getting an error.
Nevada knowledge without actually, that being transferred
at that same sort of progress into that, becoming way more
important hasn't kind of translated into leadership and
getting tlr and extra pay. So you get kind of dichotomy,
sometimes of huge amounts of work.
From history coordinators, for example, ripping up the
curriculum because it's going to be a huge Focus for ofsted
putting into our history coordinator has done at like I
can't put into words how many hours of work.
You know, transforming this curriculum.
Making it really clear for us. So that if officer came in, we'd
be saying the same thing as them.
Our children are get a really good curriculum.
That matches the skill set needed, the vocabulary needed,
huge amount of work but no extra pay.
No tlr whereas as misleads we share a tlr because math is
math. English is English, they get
tlrs but it's just a bit of a bit of a you know it doesn't
match up at the minute, does it? Yeah, I mean for those that are
listening that maybe aren't in schools or not in those sorts of
roles just to make that really clear.
There are some subject leaders in schools who are in the core
subjects as we call them, which is mass in English, and
technically science as well. But the core subjects maths and
English come with extra pay. So if you'd lead to those
subjects, you are subject to a tlr which is a teaching and
learning, or teaching, learning responsibility as it was called.
And yeah, it's just a bit of extra money across the year to
lead their subjects. But like you said, the kind of
culture has changed a lot over the years and ofsted will be
equally interested in these other subjects.
The idea was, or you get paid because these are like the main
Subjects often are always going to hone in on these but is yeah,
it's changing, you know, that yet they hone in on everything
very quickly and people aren't paid to lead these other
subjects which is just as much work if not more sometimes than
the people doing the maths and English and yeah, it doesn't
make this strange. I don't know scenario of people
getting paid for something and not for the other.
Well the good thing is Hayden, like we said last week and I
called open you've got PPA so two hours a week just fit in
there. Yeah, exactly do it then.
And you know, it's really interesting.
Last point on that, lots of schools.
Now, you don't even get to tell offering this to maths, you
know. It might be given to someone on
that. Yeah.
Very, very, very common, very common.
I saw how it was, it was more people didn't get tlrs for
leading those subjects than the way I think classic, you know.
Let's make it fair and equal. None of you get anything now.
Yeah I can see that because that honestly, that I know it's
stupid, but that's my first thought I was like, well, at
least at least it's a step towards fairness for everyone.
It's just that everyone's being screwed.
It just goes into this. Kind of whole system of massive
massive underfunding where we're in a culture where we can be
asked to do this. Huge job.
Huge, huge job, just because, and I think this might leave
nicely Hayden into our next section, which we're going to
dive into these next round of strikes.
So, talking about strikes. I was going to mention this
earlier by. I thought I'd wait for this
section, right? I don't know if you've seen
this, but I've already fall into this trap, and I think it's kind
of sad, really? Because when I was leaving on
Tuesday this week, obviously, knowing that there were strikes
on Wednesday and Thursday and the majority of our schools
striking. I was watching people taking
home like, piles and piles, and piles of books and tests and
things. And I was thinking, oh God it as
well, as I was walking out with a For those tests because we've
had test week and I've left school on Tuesday about 5:45 the
school was kind of closing and I simply hadn't had enough time to
get an entire batch of test as Market.
Which what we're doing? I thought you go, I'll do it
tomorrow and my strike day and then I got really annoyed at
myself because I'm paying for that.
I'm paying to have the next day off to strike to take industrial
action. Make a point, make a stand about
Out, you know, a lots of different things.
One of them being the sort of working standards that, you know
the well-being of us. I'll do it, are marking tests at
home and I just thought Christ. How many other people how many
listeners right now? Can honestly say that they went
home and they strikes and they didn't do any work done about
you, this is such a good point and it leads really nice in
something else I wanted to talk about, but it's you hit the nail
on the head, right? When teach the Striking number
one, our pay is taken, right? We're not, we're not doing it,
we're not sad. Sat around doing nothing and
getting paid still, we pay for that out of our pay packet.
But number two, it doesn't get rid of all those things.
We talked about over the last few episodes that extra part of
the job, right? It doesn't get rid of that.
Those things still need to happen.
We've essentially just got rid of that contact time that
teaching time, all of the other stuff, like you having to get
those test marks and put onto the area is still has to happen.
Yeah. At some point and what really,
really, really infuriates me and it's something maybe we could
talk about now is kind of Of before me, talked about strikes,
it was very much Strikers versus non-striker's in terms of
teacher versus teacher, right? And and there was fall out and
it and it did get ugly. And I'm the first to put my hand
up and say that, in the initial kind of discussions about
striking. I was definitely more on the
edge of of course you should strike.
Of course, we should try because if this and this and I'm very
aware that sometimes when I get into it because again I am
passionate about it that it may sometimes come across as a bit
condescending, especially to those who maybe just couldn't
afford to Strife, whatever reason.
Yeah, and I think I've come back from that a lot more now
especially after having for strike days are in about a
month. I mean that's a huge hit for
anyone. Yeah.
But the thing, I noticed this time and perhaps you could tell
me what your position on this is is that teacher versus teacher
again. But within people who did
strike, because I heard stories last time of teacher who decided
to strike. But on their day off, didn't go
to the picket line that was arranged their school and, you
know, didn't actively go out. And let's say, traditionally
strike, right? And the next time they met as a
union, when they were discussing about their next round of strike
action, the any you rep in their school, who was a teacher,
obviously, made the point of kind of calling those people
out, almost as if to say and said this exact line, which I
really disagree with again. So I'm not just militant any
you, of course, but it was, it's not a day off, it's a strike
day. You need to come and show your
support in the picket line and I know I thought to that and I
wonder what your reaction is to say, Mike.
Reaction to that. Is the that's not the only way.
That's not actually the point of striking like the point of
striking is not to go out there and get in people's faces to say
what I'm striking. The point of striking is to not
to be at work like ultimately, that's the thing you're going to
have the most impact you're going to have is by not being
there, putting that pressure on the government to take action.
Right? Obviously there's the Step Up
where. Yeah, you could eat.
You can also, you can be quite like you said by militant about
it, you can get out there on the streets, you can get your signs
out, you know, stand up. Picket line and do those things
as well. But I don't like the idea of
basic insinuating that or you're doing nothing by just striking
by being at home like you're not doing nothing.
You're still not being at work, you still making that point that
impact from the government's perspective, you know?
So yeah, I would be annoyed if someone had said that to me by
basically, I get it, you know, he said you were passionate
right? Like yeah, I mean, clearly you
could on top of this, but I can understand why someone would be
that passionate again, on that next level.
And maybe be a bit condescending bit.
Rude. You know, please understand if
you're listening to this that we don't actually want to strike at
all. Of course we don't actually want
this but the level of disruptions level one going up
and showing your showing up in. London is level 2 it is better.
Of course. It is I can I completely get
that and I completely agree. But again maybe it's where I
fell on the other side of actually I'm going to use this
day off to rest or catch up or recuperate or do it.
So many other teachers did which comes into what you said later.
Of lost time. Lots of people are marking
independent writing. That takes a long time to my
properly. Lots of people are catching up
on tests and I just wanted to tell this story right now
because it shows how conflicting I am because I didn't do it, but
I really appreciate if you're listening to this and you showed
you went to a picket line and you went to, I have so much
respect and praise for you. And I want to say thank you
because today, obviously there's lots of other strikes going on
as well. There's there's Junior.
Doctor strikes, there's Other strikes in that even the BBC.
I think locally, local BBC people on strike, it was a huge
day of strike action. I was driving past a local
hospital today and we were in traffic.
It's like backed up traffic and we kind of come to a stop
outside. The hospital where there was
this whole group of people congregated almost like a picket
line the demonstration. Yeah.
To show their support and then when we started up again we
drive past them. I beat my horn and gave them a
wave, right? And they are really happy, they
were cheery. And I felt two overriding
emotions and it was crazy, right?
Kind of just washed over me. It was like, I was in a sembly
all over again. Push it over me because the
first one was almost like regret.
I kind of wish that I was doing that.
I was thinking, okay, I'm going to see my family today, so I
don't regret that. I have the idol.
Really nice day on my strike. That I went to see my family.
It was perfect. It was a really nice kind of
day, just catch up with them. Saw the little ones, it was
really nice, but I And of regret not showing my face and just,
you know, showing that support in the next level like you said,
but then the overriding emotion after was, you know, pride and
and like passion and I was so happy for like I know they're
striking and I can't really put this into words but my whole
being was taken over with yes like solidarity.
Like you just well done. You've put yourself out there
and I thank you because I just hope that this Stays this
feeling of it's unjust. This feeling of you are the
people who are the glue to this country, the nurses, the
healthcare, the teachers that Railway workers the shop
workers. These are the real people who
actually keep our country together and they are they're
saying, no and I just like got emotional almost, I really did
genuinely, and I just thought Brilliant like look what you're
doing, you've taken a cut. You've taken a pay cut to argue
how you're not getting paid enough.
If that isn't the ultimate show of how much you believe in
something then what is and they were just wondering why Wreck-It
Ralph was driving past in and they were happy to see you.
It was nice to see a character. So big and so popular.
Do that and show support jokes aside?
I do agree. Even listen to you.
Tell that story I almost got like secondhand emotions that
because I know exactly how you feel.
Cuz I'll be the same and I am a little bit.
Disappointed in myself for not being, you know, one of those
picket lines or those rallies. I know.
There's still time. We can do it another day, but
yeah, equally just like ice ice around.
I'm Mark tests. I go ahead and I spoke to so
many people that were like, oh, thank God.
I can get, I can get some work done so that I can have a
weekend for once, like, what a sad State of Affairs and it's
just highlights again. So, yes, it's, you know, this is
a huge reason to strike the working conditions of teachers
is ridiculous. It's stupid.
Yeah. And I think the kind of, the
point I want to make now moving forward, is that kind of Pride
and just so. So glad that these people feel,
they can come together to make this point and it's just met
with a brick wall. And it really frustrates me
because especially in England where education is devolved in
terms of, you know, you know, Scotland and Wales have certain
powers even though they're part of the British government,
there's certain powers that are handed over to Scottish MPS and
Welsh MPS for them to have their own.
Budgets and saw their own things out, right?
Yeah. It is Scotland.
And Wales education is one of them, so they're in charge of
their own curriculum, they're in charge of their own funding.
That's why tuition fees in Scotland a free because the
government have chosen to take that step because they're in
charge of that for Scotland. So in Scotland, and in Wales,
they've had pay offers, right? They've had pay offers come in
so that they can kind of decide for themselves, whether they
want to accept that or not and that was without the the strikes
being called off, okay? So Scotland voted I believe too.
Checked them Wales is currently. Now having received the offer
called off the strikes to ballot their members to see if that's
what they want. Okay?
Right Keegan Keegan is the education surgery.
She opened penned a letter, an open letter to parents, okay.
And in this letter it was released the day before the
strike. So on on Tuesday, I believe and
it was just just classic government kind of like safety
safety net of framing the Union's as the bad guy.
Guys, and it was just along the lines of, you know, we don't
want this instruction. Tappin, we've offered this Olive
Branch to the any you we've said, if they just call off, the
strikes will sit around the table and have discussions.
So, you know, trying to shift the blame basically, and saying
the any you are obsessed with striking, two things to say to
this, okay? Or two things to say to this.
Number one, we are the any you, the teachers are the any you,
they are. They have this really, really
hard line. I love trying to characterize
the union so you don't have to characterize the teachers and
just outright them all true. We are the any you, we vote.
We represent the eight. What do you think?
We are like the people at the top of any you ballot.
Us at this really high threshold that the government set that, I
never thought would get that. We'd get to, we got there
because we the teachers voted for that.
So every time they say that any you are obsessed with striking,
we can see straight through that, we know what you're
saying. And the second thing I want to
say to that, Is what are you talking about?
Call off the strikes and then we'll have a discussion.
No of that. What do you mean?
We're striking for a better pay deal.
We're not striking to have a chat.
We're not striking to have a little chinwag round, the table
when which you'll just say no and get rid of the strikes and
not give us anything Scotland, managed to do it, whales managed
to do it in 2011 when there was a pensions debacle is teachers
and they were negotiating with the government, all those
negotiations. Happened whilst industrial
action was on the way. There was never a cat.
She's changed the goalposts suddenly and try to shift onto
you, stop striking and we'll talk about it.
You're talking like a teacher to your class.
You start behaving yourself and maybe we got four golden time.
It's not going to cut, is it is exactly what you said.
It Paints the, any you us teachers, literally everyone, in
education. It pains them at the bad people,
simple. It's a clever plan and it will,
you know, a lot of people will fall into it.
It's just the way, the way it works in the country, a lot of
people will be like, yeah, yeah, actually Yeah, the teachers are
scum and it's like, they really want us.
They really want to strike, they're just doing it because
they love striking and I just hate that people like so many
people can't Elevate their thinking slightly more to
questioning hmm option. A suddenly hundreds of thousands
of teachers and educational staff are all scum.
Now, despite doing a job that's like inherently, like relies on
people, caring about children, they're all Come now.
And they've all become greedy in unison at the same time.
That's mad. Haven't they?
And they all hate children's, they're striking or maybe, maybe
hundreds of thousands of people collectively have had enough
because the government of wrong, they're in the wrong.
Maybe that's why it's like which one is it?
I'll Keegan said it was the, it was the Union's.
They love striking. So yeah, that's punches up.
That's it. Hundreds of thousands of
teachers. All scum, all greedy.
Now, what they were compliant or for the last 12 years, but
they're greedy. Now, you know where they are.
Though, because actually I checked in the Daily Mail, so
lazy. Yeah, yeah.
And actually it's impartial, even though all of it is owned
by, you know, Tory's doesn't matter.
Because it's truth is fine. Because Boris Johnson has, you
know, offered up their the head of the day.
It's all fine, it's all fine because you know, it's fine
because the BBC has a left-wing bias obviously.
So everything else. But, you know, ignore the fact
that it's bound by a Tory donor. You know, the, the media
completely impartial and teachers are obviously just just
lazy. We At the most.
It's just weird, isn't it? That like it must have been the
maybe maybe like a few years ago.
It's just this massive greedy way.
If you know, all these great people with trained to be
teachers at the same time and they all said, you know what
we'll do in a few years time, we're all going to decide to be
a bit more greedy at the exact same time.
Yeah. And and we'll just it will just
hold the country to Ransom and we'll strike because we love it,
not because we could go to those those meetings and and you know,
get get rejected off our or we love striking so much.
We're just going to make it, you know, horrendous or the country.
I'm gonna keep doing it. Because migrating out of sent
and you know what really grinds my gears, I'm really gets me up
about this actually Hayden is that we clapped all these guys
was at nine off. Yeah she's miyaichi no blasted
probably isn't the teachers when I Clap the NHS goals and Anais
use, Excuse me, inflation is really high and might because of
your incompetent leader who was around 40 days.
My mortgage is about to go up by four hundred pounds, a month and
food is doubled. And I'm just, I'm just really,
I'm just really struggling to get by and I was just wondering
if Maybe we could have some kind of some kind of increasing our
payback, that kept us up with your face.
Yeah, lazy. You're lazy, right.
It's time to move on to our little end of episode sections.
I absolutely love these. Before we get in.
We've got some toxic stories. This week, back to that one,
reading forward to that Hayden, Scotland for us.
I've not heard these. So I'm kind of looking forward
to it and half excited to get a bit annoyed.
You know, that feeling, sometimes you quite like it in a
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Talking for a minute about that. Do you want to tell me now?
Yes. Got you riled up this week?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Now these I'm hoping this will
spark a discussion, like you said, get a bit riled up, maybe
they're not crazy things. Okay?
But there's just a good discussion point.
So I saw recently I heard you're from some from reading, some
things online. There was a TA just asking for a
bit of advice and saying that they've got a contract that
starts at 8:30. And this is really important
because that person they have to start at 8:30 because of their
own child care, like routine in the morning, okay?
So that was very, that was like a really important part of that
contract. But that now being reprimanded
by the school, they work for, and they're in quite a lot of
trouble because they get there, 8:30.
And that's saying you need to be in the school here at 8:20 so
that you can prep. You can be ready to start.
Start, you know, doing whatever you need to be doing 8:30.
And this person saying, you know, the whole point of our
contrasting, 8:30 was because that's the that's like the
earliest time. I can, I can be here, you know,
because of my, it's a knock-on effect to their child care
routine in the morning because I have to be ready 10 minutes
before they start and there's the school has made it very
explicit. Those ten minutes won't be paid.
They said your pay. Your pay starts at 8:30 and they
were asking for advice and I just thought was really
interesting. I thought you know, I don't know
if whether you think this is toxic or not.
I thought a good discussion point.
So yeah, a couple of things come to mind straight away.
I'll say the first thing because it's really quick and really
easy T. Azar gold dust and angels and I
love them and I'm very aware, you know, you know, and very
sentimental, very sentiment is podcast, but it's true.
And I don't think we say it enough here and get it across.
How much we just appreciate them so much.
They are the literal glue to. So Many schools, aren't they?
Because they are just the people who get things done for you and
they their teachers in their own right there.
Kind of, you know, those figures of you can put your, you know,
that shoulder to cry on. So to say, you can go with them
with your problems. But listen, they support their,
just the best people in the world.
And so many of my favorite colleagues ever have been those
T8, especially the start of my career, the start my career
teachers are busy busy, busy non-stop Tas are just as busy,
but they just always find time to listen to you.
I find that and You know, just so first thing, we appreciate
you absolutely. Second thing on the story.
It's an interesting one because for me, there's one thing that
came to mind, but something that kind of changes in this
situation for me. So the first thing that came to
my mind is when I was at University and its sixth form.
I worked as though my contract was 8:55 on a Friday and 12:00
to 8:00 on a Saturday. So I did 12 hours a week whilst
I was at six form. Just as you know, some pocket,
money to save up, run my car when I passed my test and when
my contract My shift started at four, you know?
And it was just expected and it was kind of taken as just.
The fact that I clock in just, I clock in before for so that I
can go on to the stuff, the shop floor, I could start work at for
because I'm there to start work. Now, that means I arrived at
Asda a course to 4 or 10 to 4, right?
And I walked through the outside door into Asda at 3:50 because
then I would go to my locker, put my things away, you maybe
get a quick drink and Maybe on the shop floor, ready to start
work. So my initial thought there was
okay, well actually, I think it's quite normal in the world
of work for. If your your contract starts at
certain time, you're expected to actually be working at that
time. You know and anything, you know,
you don't get paid to travel to work, you know your travel time
isn't paid and in the same way as your prep time before doesn't
get paid when I threw the doors. Yeah, exactly.
Now the thing that slightly different in this situation is
it sounds as if this was a discussion that was already had
that, you know, I need to have this time because of X, Y Zed
and If that kind of was maybe it was a miscommunication at the
time or maybe it's just something that they've
overlooked and now they say no, you need to be here.
That's going to have a really detrimental effect.
It sounds to me as if this person isn't isn't just, you
know, they're not just dusting off and saying, no, no, I just I
come here at this time. The, you know, that child,
they've got child support. So surely, I think in any sane
mind, if that happened at my school, I'd have a sit-down, I
said, okay, how can we solve this problem then because you've
got to do this and, yeah, rather than being reprimanded and kind
of threatened, all this. I reckon the school probably or
just In the similar sort of opinions.
What you had there? Have like, well we're you know,
we're paying you from 8:30. So you need to be like working
from on the dot, you know, from 8:30.
So you need to get here in reasonable time to start that
job at 8:30, but it did make me think.
And I know I don't want to go down this Rabbit Hole really now
but it did make me think about we all just, you know, we just
sucked into this culture, which is actually inherently just
wrong of, like end of the day. You're paying for my time.
I am here at 8:30, I'm walking through the doors, 8:30, if he
won't pay me, I wouldn't be here.
Like this is not my choice. Kind of like you wish you know
shit shit we just change the culture of it, shouldn't be.
Yeah, we pay you from the second you get here because actually
you're not here for a jolly even walking through the doors and go
put your stuff in a locker. When you're asked her ass till
your time, you're not doing that for fun, you're doing that as
part of the job. It's just that we've convinced
ourselves that no, no. You can only be paid for the
second, your labor is making money for that.
The company in anything, it takes to be there, no matter how
hard we make that, it's not paid, that's just you just do
that. Yeah, so I don't do, you know,
is to do, we just need to have a bit of a shift.
I'm thinking it's an interesting one.
I don't necessarily think that expecting someone to start their
work, when their contract starts is, is, you know, out of the is
extraordinary. You know, is another thing, I
think, I think that that is something like, said ingrained
in the culture, so it's a weird one, but, yeah.
I think they're specifics of that case, you know, I just, I
hate the when people in the position of power immediately,
go to kind of like, you know, wielding the building the knife
almost to be like, well, no acceptable, rather than just.
Okay. You know, let's make this
Because they're human beings. Okay, let's start your contract
840 then. Yeah.
To give you time and you can still get 8:30 if that's you
know if that's going to be the thing.
Yeah. And I need 10 minutes early.
I bet I bet the reactions that would be oh thank you.
Yeah. Sounds good or you know or
actually I need that extra 10 minutes.
Could I stay 10 minutes later at the end and maybe prep the next
day just to then? I don't know.
So that's the end of that story. I've got another story.
I'm going to just jump straight every here.
This woman was actually it's quite refreshing but I've seen
this story lots of times and I know you're going to be like, oh
yeah, I've heard this before, okay.
It was a pgce student. So pgce is, well, is what did
and I both did? It's a one year teaching course.
And you have to have a degree already to be able to do the one
year. If you, if you don't have a
degree already, you have to do the three year course, right?
So this person was doing the pgce and they were just talking
about how they felt like in their placement school, which is
about nine. Ten weeks of practicing teaching
at a school. They were just abused, and used
as free labor, and they were given absolutely no support to
the point where they felt like they were actually treated.
Be badly. They were talk to you rudely and
they were just basically used as free work in the school.
There was no development for them and then this person was
then questioning because of these experiences and also
seeing all of the extra stuff that's used have to do which
again go back and listen to our PP.
A silly joke that we made at the start of last episode because it
highlights all of these things, they realize that actually
there's a lot more to teaching them, maybe they thought and
they sort of left with the question of it is this job worth
doing Doing is this? Have I made a terrible decision
was what they put? Yeah, it's so common.
It's so common couple of things to kind of dissect.
Their the first thing about almost like free labor with
students, right? It's such a fine line because
truly genuinely, when I trained, I made the most rapid progress
in my teaching, and my confidence, and in my ability to
devote deliver lessons while when I talk more and more.
Okay? So, so the idea of actually
teaching Lots, I personally They felt like that was a real
benefit, okay? Now everyone's different and
that that kind of Journey to teaching a certain percentage.
I think it works up to 80 percent by the end is different
for everyone, depending on what they need.
But, you know the the line though is is exactly that.
How helpful this what's happening, are you with the same
math class everyday planning, us planning?
A sequence of maths lessons? Seeing how the, children
develop, seeing how they use previous learning to build on
day by day? Delivering that lesson yourself
planning future lessons based On where they are, that is very
different to being asked in the morning.
Are we give free teachers off? Can you go and do some your free
math? Oh, by the way, in the afternoon
year six they've got a trip and we've got sort of the
residential and the kids are left behind.
There's no teacher to teach can take the residential.
You're not even teaching, you know, you're just babysitting
children and doing like, tie-dye covering.
Yeah. Just covering it's very, very,
very different. And I can see the Temptation for
for staff, for SLT in schools that have lots of students to
save a lot of money on cover. Right by using these students
but there's a moral obligation. If you have students, you have
decided that you're going to help develop them and you've got
to do that. And that's got to be sacrosanct,
I think throughout. And what's best for the student
has to come first and not only are you not paying them in a lot
of cases that they are paying to be there?
You know people that don't have funded courses if they're just
doing a straight up pgce and they've been hit with the full
nine and a half Grand or whatever it is these days fee
for that year they are paying NG to be in that school.
They're paying for your experience and training.
And yeah, I agree that there is a fine line and it can be so
easy because schools are so horrific be underfunded and
under so much stress that yeah, I can see the temptation of a
leader going. We could pay for a supply
teacher or we've got that student who has got a day where
they get to just go and observe people.
Should we just ask them to cover this and say it's their
experience and it's like, you know, I can see it because they
because they probably convince themselves.
It's really good experience, really good speaker, gonna cover
that year, 3 class, you get to teach you.
Threes and really, yeah, There's some experience they had, but
that's not what I'm paying for. They're not paying for that, you
know. And so I just thought I was an
interesting one. If I remember correctly, schools
do actually receive a nominal fee but they do receive a fee to
take students as well. And I noticed something.
No, it's not a lot, you know. But the idea is that you might
have to arrange cover not for the student but for maybe the,
the mentor to be out of class and have meetings, right?
And maybe that funds could go towards that.
Like the idea is that it has to be centered around the student,
and it's so sad. Sad.
Isn't it that that student you know their experience has
directly LED them after first placement to go?
Okay well what's the point my response to that person if they
were listening obviously they're not but if they were and
anyone's in the same situation would be give it another try.
Go to another place, go to another school.
And generally, do you know what? My advice generally, to people
who have a really bad time at the moment in schools is schools
are just this. It's just so not regulated at
all. Schools are so different from
one another before you pack it in.
Because you had a bad experience, I just urge you, you
know, go and try another place. Obviously, they have to do that,
you can do what you want but for those that feel like they love
teaching and then there's just something, you know, that's
changed her mind at the last four years, try somewhere else.
Changing schools can be a game-changer for a lot of people
because there are some fantastic schools out there.
We moan a lot because we want to relate to some of you guys that
you know, you work in a tough job.
But equally there are some amazing schools out there who
have amazing headteachers, amazing teachers amazing Tas
amazing student teachers. You get incredible experiences.
I had an incredible experience. Training to be a teacher.
I'm pretty sure you divide a fantastic experience and because
you know, I will say this that you know, this school really did
give me that chance to kind of, you know, teach I covered
sometimes. But that was, you know, very
rare. And I absolutely agree to that
and I felt like I really made a bond with my class and the
teachers are my mentors around. Me were unbelievable and always
be in debt to those people. And for that reason, I do like
to think that, no matter how stressed I get, I would be there
to offer help to anyone, you know, entering the profession.
We will get two stories from the classroom, but we're going to do
a really quick confessions because this is kind of like
the, this is the result of us, kind of opening.
This kind of flowers are several different types of strands of
parts, of the population. Yeah.
So we've got some confessions now, I really, really, really
like this one because this one kind of leads on last video.
We talked about the harrybo. Okay.
So anyone who follows our Instagram as well will see that.
After I heard about story last week about the teacher who
literally ate the remains of the hobo bag even though it's for
the party at the weekend. You will see that I have this
week, had to hand out some sweets, and I tell you what, I
noticed right away that they were two bags of 22, right?
So I was like that's 44. There are not 44 kids in my
class. I can't wait to take a leaf out
of that person's book. So I dismissed the children I
kind of left the girl handing out the harrybo's as they went
out. And I said, I'll coach join the
back of the line and I'll see you out and she came out and I
saw her out. She didn't have any hair was
left in her hand and I was like, jackpot.
I've got like 12 bags of harrybo waiting for me in the classroom.
Went back completely, empty turns out.
She's In the last few kids, like 5H just to get rid of him at the
end. But anyway, this story, it's
linked to her bow and I'll just read out to you because I got
Center on Instagram. That's the place to be guys,
teach sleep, repeat podcast, get an Instagram, share your stories
with us. You could be on the podcast, not
really a confession. So this person just thinks that
already sticking by this. It doesn't it doesn't think this
is a bad thing but more of a way forward in life, I used to teach
a class of thirty six children. That's in its own.
That's crazy one. Day.
They'd all one a mini packet of harrybo.
Can't remember, why? But it's just something I did
every now and then to entice them into working hard.
They were so desperate to eat them in class that we decided to
strike a deal, the agreed payment to open them now and eat
them from each of them was to sacrifice.
One harrybo each to me, they weren't bright enough to realize
that I basically end up with a full sized bag back and was
loving life. Happy class Happy Teacher.
That's clever. And also way more You're getting
way more a little, how did you get the mini bag?
Like honest that 8 is like tell ya 10 8 10.
Yeah. There's not many absolutely 6
back and then that way everyone's happy you know
they're happy. I call that harrybo socialism.
You know, everyone paid to say this like there's teachers yeah,
just just rooting socialist into that but where the 1% still
managed to fry from the teachers their job of a horde of them.
That's pretty far as a really good one.
Another one is, well here this one's slightly okay longer and
I'll save this for stories. Okay, so we're going to have
stories guys because it's less of a confession more of just a
crazy thing that happened. So do you have any confessions
from what? Yeah, I can say I've I've had a
confession in this week, which I read really genuinely made me
chuckle. Okay, so you haven't heard this.
I obviously, I've said it for you.
I'm going to read out to you exactly how its ratings.
I like the ones that were written, guys.
By the way, the Dolphins one, we had a few episodes back was
really hilariously written. So yeah, please No.
Please do. Take the effort to do that.
You can be one of our favorite customers Wreck-It, Ralph
approves. I love all my classes.
I just need to say that before you read on and think I'm Hollow
ghost, is a great start. What are they say to stop a
story? Right?
Children, love to draw you stuff.
Okay, any teacher listening right now is thinking?
Yes, Christ. They do anything, it could be a
15 second drawing of you compare.
Lately, terrible artistic prowess but you always act
unbelievably grateful and impressed of what they produce.
That's what we did this, which is what we did up on the wall,
right? It's going right there.
Exactly? Yeah, it goes somewhere and once
you break that seal of being really impressed at this
terrible art, they won't stop one year.
I was so desensitized due to the 10 pieces of art, aren't in
quotation marks. I'd received that week that that
it usually when in the Bin instead of home to my art wall,
as I told them, however, I slipped up once, just once I use
the bin in my classroom, which I assumed was still yet to be
cleared by the clue. How wrong I was fast forward to
the morning and a child is questioning as to why they're
beautiful painting of me, as a Pokemon was in the bin, Fold It
Up in the bin, I had to think fast and I've course, On the
cleaners got away with it, this time.
Like that's so true. I've had this before, right?
I've got a teacher who I kind of share a doorway, right?
The other side of my door, it's a weird layout.
The other side of my doors, another classroom and multiple
times. She's come in and said oh can I
just use your bin? And I first read about these
were being. Yeah.
But my head is like they have your own bin.
Like of course you can I come in?
So I just don't want to see that.
I'm throwing away their work and honestly came in with, like, you
do like big A3, paper bill, It doesn't go in the book but she
was at how I don't want ya, see it.
So this person clearly have more foresight than the film.
You might say some pictures of it or something but you're not
keeping the work. Yeah, we've done it.
Like I just know people listen to this thinking I've actually
done that and it sounds really horrible.
It sounds really mean but it's not.
It's just you. Do you get a bit desensitized to
it because they see that you like something they've done.
So they're like cool. I can do that in free, checkups
your squiggle on, give it to you and you're like, oh yeah, thank
you. It does build up.
And you know as lovely as is just the, the lovely bit is the
See you accepting it. So obviously afterwards, I
really want higher level that go into being, they get folded up
and they go in the bin, have you ever had something more special
things, work a, I'll keep, but there's little ones, you know,
have you ever had it before? Where they'll come up to you,
but picture, right? And, and that you think they're
just showing you it right there was like, look at this?
Yeah. Right.
And then your old lovely and then it kind of just just stay
there staring. Like I like your rights.
Like yeah. Right.
Oh, is that for me? Yeah.
All right. I don't think.
It's literally just their name right there.
Just written the name in that pink pen.
Is that horse. Lovely.
Thank you. And then literally just stay
where you going to put it on my desk on my desk that you put it
here. Forget about it tomorrow.
It'll be gone it all when they're the most brutal one is
when they ask you to name it. Oh what is it what have I draw
with the kids? They want the gratification of
you telling them what they've drawn but you don't know what it
is. Oh is that so you get is that
I'm thinking that's a lovely animal.
No. Oh, okay.
No, it's not even handle crazy. I'm glad I didn't say cat.
That's that's my mum. Okay, that's pretty.
And she would love that go home to her, but you go show her that
if you ever you ever seen as well.
This is a common thing. I see quite a lot, when kids
make cards just like last minute they find out.
Maybe it's and adults birthday, or like another child's birthday
in this in the class. And they always want you to
sign. It.
That's just a thing. For some reason, it can you sign
the cup? Can you sign the card and then
you owe and it's always, always a piece of white, A4 paper
folded, terribly in half, not properly.
They've written in like a pink Li light or something.
Happy birthday on the front and then they just go around the
class and got some people to just write their name in it.
And like the ultimate win is how many adults can we get to sign
this card there? Another way around a bit like
can you sign the card for? So and so can you sign a car?
And the best thing is it's just have left in their trade end of
the day. It's just hanging out there and
taking it home. Yeah, everyone's here.
Oh, man, this is Sophie. This may be lost so much, get
hardened to it now because happened, but in my first year
of teaching, I really put like a part and thought into these
cards Christmas cards, but I got the kids.
Not exactly what I call my kids at Christmas cards, memory,
nice. Write them all a little message
and handed them all out. As you do, most kids over there
and then and then we sort of moved on.
I forgot about it at the end of the Academic Year so like six
months, seven months later. We were just doing it at Ray
thinks that those little trays under the desks.
And that's looking for this one boys desk, helping him.
Do you want to clean it? He's really grumpy, and I just
pulled out my completely unopened.
Sealed up Christmas card from the depth of his tray because he
just couldn't have cared less about this car that I was like,
oh, they'll see so much sentiment in this.
No, they didn't need any can get kind of, not one bit.
I love how like each year that goes by less and less of those
sentimental things happen because you just realized that
you could be lovely and sentimental and nice do them.
Don't have to spend hours and hours, creating a personalized
bracelet for them to wear once and before it breaks and never
have again. That's so true.
Isn't it? That the time in to the sort of
send you an out, you work out that there's you again, it wrong
before. How many children have that
gift? I made in the first year where I
literally, I can't believe I did.
I went to one of the Hobby Lobby craft and I bought those tiny
white beads with letters on and every single child I made them.
This kind of brace that thing with their name on, right?
I spit was where I realized I could make you wasted my time.
Let's go. When we were walking out on the
last three kids and Brokenness that all the beat every other
floor and come. Oh, it's gone.
And I cared more than they did because I spent hours doing
yeah. Oh God!
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Let's move on. Hayden two stories from the
classroom. Well I'm going to start this
time. Is that accursed ego because I,
you know, I'm just latching on to what happened in the last
episode where apparently people find it really funny to hear how
much of a moron I am. Honestly, I'm so glad more
people are noticing because I feel like I've had a front-row
seat to this for years now. And I was thinking this show,
you know, it needs to be commissioned by someone and in
this podcast, can be the place because you suck, honestly,
you're just like a walking me, you're just a joke, my legs and
I know nicest way possible. Crying.
Now, on when I say joke on legs, I mean you bring joy and
laughter and happiness. Oh yeah.
Alright, Wreck-It Ralph, that's enough.
Anyway. Yeah.
So people love the, the understory more than I thought
they were like, I was very honored and so I've got another
one. It's, you know, it's not as good
as under was just it's just our way to Hype up.
The cost is funded in before you start.
It's not as good. Yeah, it's terrible.
Stop this internet often. So now so this is just another
one of me being a bit of an idiot.
I've The story out was that, she okay.
So one day after school, again, maybe two years into teaching,
you know, I was there, it was like, 6 p.m. it was really late.
I was dying to go home, but we were doing geography the next
day. And I really wanted to make it
not one of those geography lessons where they just stare at
the screen. You show them pictures of apps
and things. I want to get the maps out.
And I was looking for all the resources, cupboard, and I found
this tray of maps and I to know I can't even remember what's on
these cards. I think it was like little
continent cards or something, but they were like a like a
playing cards except they were. Hundreds of right hundred
hundreds but they were supposed to be elastic band it into like
little groups and they all just messed up as I want to just put
them back in there one day and not sorted them out.
So I had them out on a table and I was in another teacher's
classroom. Think we were just chatting at
the end of the day, and I spent honestly like an hour, sorting
them out. And our sorting this tray out,
just chatting away, finding all the cards matching them up.
I didn't have any elastic bands. I was just thinking it'll be
fine because I've put them in piles.
So I know where they are. Put them in this.
I with the maps next to them Syd you're gone 6 p.m. now I'm
walking back to my classroom. One of the last people in
school, hard floor. The cleaners are already cleaned
it, right? I didn't look at the sign
because it's me, obviously I just didn't think that they
were. I've done that and I just felt I
slip classic like banana slip. Like my legs went up, and I
slammed the floor like honest. I think I cracked my elbow and I
did it hurts so much but I was holding this tray of stuff and
it just like, comically just Went everywhere.
Like absolutely everywhere, the whole our been wasted because
all of these cards were just scattered across the floor.
And I got so angry and I just like, basically kicked it all to
the side shuffle. It I just went home and do it
and even do it the next day, I didn't have time to sort out
again, did the boring this and instead I just I was so
frustrated. You turn it up with the front
door. The front of the cars in a
sling, the next day and because it's less is so boring.
You're like, I know, I know, Yeah.
So they guys just another vision of me being a complete idiot.
Okay, so I've got one here. Once I forgot to tell my student
that you had to be out of school by 6:00 p.m.
So when the bell goes in this story at six, you literally have
five minutes to get yourself out the building.
So, this Bell isn't like a warning.
It's the schools closing now leave, but everyone knew that
obviously apart from the student.
Well, one day, I went all Rogue and I actually left by 4:30 that
The joys of having a student because as you know sometimes
you just units taught by few lessons.
They're going to Mark the lesson.
You can you can head off early happy days.
I said goodbye to the cleaner on my way out of the building and
thought nothing more of it q. A panicked call from my student
at about 6:30. She was locked in the building
and had set the alarm so she couldn't break out the school.
The cleaner hadn't realized I'd had a student and had locked up
knowing that I'd left so didn't come and check my classroom.
I was Obviously, the last one left on a Friday night, usually,
I had to drive back to school. Thankfully, I was relatively
local, a friend's house and had to talk us through how to get
out of the building and also then help us climb over the
gates to escape my God. Needless to say, but I never
forgot to tell a student teacher about the 6:00 p.m. curfew
again. Can I just say oh that's so what
a metaphor at the minute for you know for the idea of teaching us
stuff climbing over the fence get me out of here.
I'm climbing. I never forgot to tell a student
teacher that even though the shop finishes at 4:30, you'll
still be there at 6:30 needing to do more and you need to leave
anyway. What the idea of a student
teacher felony to be there at 6:30 as well.
I was like, what did? Yeah, must be nice.
Imagine how terrified you too. Because like I've heard of I
actually heard of another member of Staff, but way more
experience, just being locked in their office because they didn't
realize the school have been locked up and they clean as
hadn't checked and it, but they weren't too worried about it.
There are just give me a ring a bit of lat.
Alton, he's comin back out but it is student-teacher.
You try to make a good impression you'd be.
I would I would have been mad. I just would have.
Also heard this story em about a relative experienced teacher got
locked in the toilet. Once I was there sir.
Yeah I remember that happening. I think him be there.
Actually laughing and fit on that personal.
Oh it was okay. So you've got story for us.
Hey, yeah. I've got another one.
Okay, so this this is actually a story for Mika.
This is not written in, it's just something I remembered and
it It was it's about a boy that was in my class many, many years
ago. He was so charismatic this game,
like genuinely it. Still brings me joy to think of
this this kid, because he was just had so much life, and
brought so much joy in the classroom, right?
But anyway, we once went on a school trip and it was an
overnight school trip. Just one night away, the classic
residential, but it'll bit younger normally do in your six.
We were doing it in your 40. It's quite common to all do that
as like almost like a warm-up for the week-long.
One later. Yeah, I know I heard it before
but this is what this, what we do this school and our forecast
Cohen had a bit younger, but they, as expected a lot more
tears and things like that for children.
And we have like a lights out there all in one Corridor
basing. All these rooms next to each
other in one big Corridor. And I'm kind of at the end of
it, we Patrol for a while because you know what they're
like, if you've been on a residential before, they want to
stay up as late as they can and mess around their mates, of
course, they do how often they get to get this, right?
So I never feel that bad about it.
I'm just like Let Him Live it down a bit they'll all fall
asleep, naturally eventually. So I'm going through the rooms,
most of the I've got there. Door, start the open because
they didn't like the idea of having it closed.
I was like, that's fine because it said, I completely locked
building anyway and it's just us in it and I'd like a soccer the
door just to keep it. Look just a crap of light in,
you know, it's a little. So I'm going through, I'm
listening. How can my head through some of
them? Just making sure thinking.
Yeah, there are asleep noses at 11:30.
Now, to midnight, maybe they've been asleep for qualitative.
They've had, they've had their kind of, through their, their
calm down from being so excited. Oh yeah, because they would have
gone to bed at, like 9:00. So they've had their couple of
hours of being maniacs. And I'm walking through Yep.
Another Quiet One open that one. This is Stephens a little
question. Where someone's like this
scared? It was it, you'll be right.
I'll be okay. Be right, mate.
Your, I just get some sleep. I go to the next room and this,
this that this boy is he right? Open the door lights all on
every single child in bed. Except for him I guess we do.
Topless pull-ups, looks me just goes, I'm a student at 11:30.
The other kids are like upset with him because they're trying
to sleep. Now they've had their fun and
he's doing pull-ups. Oops, didn't even know I was
coming. He was doing that because he
wants to do it. I just made it and I obviously
had to tell him to stop by in my head I was laughing so much at
this and I couldn't eat a damn good idea.
How many children rights mind knowing they've been caught
doing that would kind of like jump into bed and like, go
pretend. Yeah.
Yeah, he was smug. He knew damn, well that I find
it funny, you know it, he all these extra we're in one basket
there, he knew there's no way I'd be able Not in, use this
hour, he got away and he was right, it's funny.
Hey, it was right, it's the same kid, by the way, I also talked
about him, but just because he's a legend and I'm just thinking
about him. Now this same kid was also he is
confident as you can probably tell from that story, right?
And when we used to leave the classroom we'd have to just
basically walk through that the playground right of the school
and classic playground, there's like benches, you know there's
you know standard bench has just picked me benches, two benches
on one side and a big table in the middle, all connected.
And we We'd walk past them and he'd always always and I tell
him not to every single time he jumped up onto the bench bit
where you sit kind of run across it and jump off the other end.
It's fun, you know, there's a year for kid is fun.
I'm not that annoyed about it. I just want him to make me look
like an idiot in front of all the parents.
Yeah. Or and himself exactly that.
And that's obviously the one I went with Isis.
I did that. You can hurt yourself.
You know, if you trip off that you're going to fall off a
higher height, you don't hurt yourself, classic teacher talk,
no kit, kids don't care, don't rock in your chair, so I don't
care. You might fall off and break
your neck. No, no.
I won't, they'll do it anyway. You know, so he didn't listen to
me one day, it's raining. Oh, you see what's coming here?
It's raining. He knows he's not supposed to
do. I've told him a million times,
you ran up to the bench but as he went to jump onto it, he
slipped. His leg went out front of him
and he broke his nose on the actual bench but he literally
broke his nose. Like let's go to hospital
afterwards. He broke his nose.
And and this is this is going to sound so horrible.
But part of me was like that was a lesson that you learned that
lesson the hard way. Well you know obviously I
checked the right foot so he stopped right there was a
limited again. No, he's the he's the best bit
ice. I'm not even joking.
Not exaggerating, right? He was in the next day or maybe
the day after you might have one that actually had one date
husband. He was in the first days back, I
swear to God, he did it again immediately, and I turn around,
I gave him that look of, like, he knew are saying, are you
joking? After what's your serial?
Really doing that again. Fearless, Fearless probably went
home to pull ups at night, most of his bed, you know, just just
working out his nose. Making sure I'll be fine.
I'ma show that bench. She's doing parkour across it.
The next idea you had that thought when it happened like
horrible, I'm making sure he's fine, but, you know, at least
he's never going to do it again. At least he worked at least as a
look. No.
Yeah. I was like, he's not seriously
harmed and, you know, he's that kind of he's confident, he's
cocky. Sometimes people just need to
learn the in their own mistakes. I was like, yeah.
You know, what's a good life lesson for him?
You know, he's not he's not severely injured, good life
lesson, they won't do that. Immediately doesn't doesn't
care, right? Another bump episode.
I actually really enjoyed these longer form ones because we can
just sit and talk see where the conversation goes and you guys
seem to be enjoying it. So again, let us know.
I mean, we've recorded a lot. So, let's see what this comes
out as Hayden. Anything else before we finish?
Oh actually, this might be the time then if this is a too long
episode, but we could finally tell us critics or have a lot of
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