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Hello everyone. 
Welcome back to another episode 

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of Teach, Sleep, Repeat. 
My name is Dylan and my name is 

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Hayden. 
This is gonna be an unhinged 

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episode by the Can't Wait for 
it, Guys, welcome back. 

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Hope you're happy. 
Whether you're on the way back 

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from school because you're in 
Australia listening, whether 

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you're on your way to school 
because you're in the UK 

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listening, or whether you're 
asleep right now you're in 

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America. 
Or listening at any time other 

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than the precise moment we 
released. 

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It yeah, because this is not a 
radio show. 

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You can assist whenever you 
want. 

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Guys, how you doing? 
Hope you're well. 

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Hayden, are you OK? 
Yeah, I'm just thinking about 

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our listeners in 20-30. 
Wow, what's life like now for 

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you Right into us? 
Let us know. 

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Weird. 
Are we both still teaching 

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bloody? 
I'm not. 2030 Crikey. 

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I don't wanna think about 2013. 
Be way too old for teaching. 

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Then I was thinking about it 
earlier, 10 years ago. 

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I was probably deciding to go 
into teaching scaring them. 

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Yeah, well, what I've achieved 
in 10 years, I'm slightly better

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at teaching maths. 
You lost a bit weight recently, 

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so that's good. 
Yeah, that's good because I 

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don't have listeners. 
I don't know. 

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I don't actually. 
I don't actually know listeners 

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out there. 
How many of you? 

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Are occurring. 
We have listened to. 

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Be honest. 
How many? 

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Wherever We just get like a new 
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episode or their brand new 
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I don't know how this works. 
Yeah, but we did do a New Year's

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resolution at the start of the 
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For me it was the night sugar. 
For Hayden, it was to do some 

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kind of fasting diet, absolute 
fat of a diet, but to pretend 

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that it was going to work for 
him. 

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How did that work out for you? 
Uh, I'm pretty good, yeah. 

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Yeah, didn't. 
And for anyone who's interested,

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it's the 9th of March and I 
still not eating any sugar in 

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terms of additional additional 
sugar and I'm looking great for 

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it. 
Yeah. 

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And Hayden, you are looking 
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Thank you. 
That's really kind of you. 

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It's funny because obviously I 
spent a lot of time with Dylan. 

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And do you? 
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And he has all. 
This is good. 

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This is a good thing. 
But it is funny to see how. 

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Depressed. 
This is good. 

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Because you replaced the sugar 
without the food, obviously, 

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just to make out. 
And every, I reckon, every 

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single time. 
I've seen you in the day. 

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And it's not just to record the 
podcast. 

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You've done like lunch or 
whatever. 

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Yeah, you've eaten a pint of 
grapes every time. 

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Whole. 
Great friends about this because

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grapes are renowned as the most 
sugary possible fruit. 

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You eat the whole lot. 
That's my vice in terms of I 

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reckon that I eat. 
I've stopped recently because I 

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thought I also shouldn't be 
doing that, but it is natural. 

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But I reckon I averaged 2 
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Ohh. 
Yeah, because I tend to only you

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tend to see me when I have them 
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dinner for lunch or something. 
But I've started to drink a 

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drink called Kefir. 
This is a health podcast now. 

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By the way, guys, don't you know
about your gut microbiome? 

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Because I'll be very honest, my 
some of my friends obviously 

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listen. 
To this Ohh anyway, moving on 

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you know. 
We have a group chat with my 

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friends and they're just a bit 
obsessed at the minute with like

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eating clean and helping your 
gut microbiome. 

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And not don't eat bread from the
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the shop. 
That's not food. 

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James. 
James. 

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James is real real 1 James real 
from the financial planning you 

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see in the group chat. 
Group chat. 

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Ohh, yeah. 
No, but he's not someone who's 

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pushing the whole. 
No, no, no. 

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Now it's busy financially 
planning. 

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Exactly. 
It's really well as well. 

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So if anyone wants any financial
planning, yeah, cause James And 

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that's funny. 
But anyway, yeah, so I was OK, 

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I'll try it out. 
It's good for the gut 

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microbiome, don't you know? 
I don't. 

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I do now, yeah. 
You told me three times. 

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You know it's also good for the 
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being today. 
Brilliant. 

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And also not pulling this wire 
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Sorry, not do that. 
Anyway, anyway, how you been? 

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How's your? 
Week. 

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Yeah, lovely. 
You. 

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Fantastic. 
By the way, if you're listening 

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to this, do you actually like it
when we sit and chat about all 

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week or do you do you skip past 
it and you might even hear this?

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Or do you just get for it 
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to God, one of these guys gonna 
stop talking about that week. 

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Don't care. 
Go on to the. 

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Episode. 
No one cares, I reckon. 

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My gut feeling I'm quite. 
Insecure. 

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You've got. 
You've got microbiome. 

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My my massive gut feeling is 
that is that people don't care, 

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but I'm quite insecure about 
that because I just think, why 

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would anyone? 
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I think mine goes all the way 
back to there are people 

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listening every week. 
What? 

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We're just two teachers? 
Who? 

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They're just two dudes. 
Get on the microphone, man. 

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We start talking, man, about 
stuff we want to change, man. 

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We're gonna change the world, 
man. 

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Wow. 
How's your weekend? 

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Yeah, it's been good. 
So a couple of things. 

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I'll be quicker this time. 
Yeah, right. 

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It's weird because you said you 
don't care. 

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You have prepared a whole thing 
about the week I've. 

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Prepared it. 
I don't think anyone will want 

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to know. 
OK. 

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Well forming. 
Quick thing ready First thing 

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child update River is now 
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Lot you got daughter. 
Yeah, I've got a daughter. 

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You got new house, didn't you? 
River is now rolling a lot and 

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she has now decided that she 
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She's nearly four months old, 
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because every time I look, I go 
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She's on her front face down and
I'm just like, oh God, is she 

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breathing? 
So that's quite scary. 

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But other than that, she's 
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Just. 
Crying about, you know, a good 

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hack for that is as a baby. 
Yeah, make a baby so big that 

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they don't like running over 
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We've got experience in that. 
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Yeah, that's it. 
That's it really for me. 

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One more thing, but we'll talk 
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So how's your week? 
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Absolutely fine. 
We have been decorating house as

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anyone who knows I did gave we 
we gave birth to a new house and

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just after we bought our first 
child and we've now actually 

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started decorating process. 
We've had plasters in and stuff.

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It's all coming together. 
It's a bit annoying. 

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We're living like a we live. 
It's basically like living on 

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the set of June 2. 
You know our house just dust 

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everywhere. 
You've been busy. 

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Yeah. 
I don't know if you don't have 

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anyone knows who watches the 
video version, but I have been 

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painting into like a 
bodybuilder. 

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Yeah, do like a little bit of a 
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Yeah, nice little bit of paint. 
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anyone else feels like this. 
Maybe it's a man thing. 

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I think. 
I think it's a man thing. 

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Yeah, done that. 
It's 95% of artists is gone. 

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I think it's a man thing because
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being done on the House with DIY
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Hmm. 
So like Lawrence's really good 

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at just anything in the house. 
Should be builder. 

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Yeah, we we've got someone who 
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the plastering and basically 
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right, So we can put our TV in 
our new fireplace and stuff like

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that. 
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insignificant and just rubbish 
at stuff because I've got no 

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those none of those skills that 
you've tried it with like a dad,

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like a dad can put. 
Like a picture frame the 

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generation. 
Yeah, I know, but it annoys me. 

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It's like the toilets broken. 
An archetypal that would just 

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nip in and fix it, You know, 
like, honestly, I've got 

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nothing. 
And so I I just got more and 

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more annoyed at this process is 
going on. 

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Yeah, and because we got these 
professionals in to do stuff, 

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which is fine, but it does cost 
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And I know it's good, but it's 
like, oh, well, I I should be 

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able to do something myself. 
What can I do? 

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So, so I've been painting the 
toilet, right? 

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Today. 
I swear to God, it's the worst 

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paint job you've ever seen from 
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And it took me forever. 
It was crap. 

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And at the end of it, I was just
like, cool. 

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I'll just end up paying want to 
fix this anyway because it's 

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just crap everywhere. 
Just leave it a bit of time to 

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get your pride, your pride, then
just pay someone to do. 

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Basically, I just feel right. 
I feel the same. 

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I do feel because we don't have 
a lot of our listeners, a lot of

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female listeners, but we do have
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I'd be interested to know 
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generational thing. 
I don't know if people just 

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gravitate to people like 
themselves, right? 

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But I feel like all of my male 
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majority, are very similar in 
terms of they have a specialised

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skill in whatever their job is, 
but they're not very good at. 

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I'm certainly not very good at 
doing those DIY things. 

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I wanna fix something. 
I'm I don't know how to do that.

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No, I'm cack handed. 
But a door slightly off Lauren's

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dad would have the door off the 
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Yeah, and I feel like every man 
in that generation, or like my 

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granddad, Oh my God, he just go 
round his house and he's like, 

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yeah, built the whole thing. 
Would you build the whole thing?

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I can't even. 
Put what was your job? 

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I was a policeman. 
Yeah, he was a policeman. 

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Yeah, I know. 
That's what I said. 

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It was just get it. 
Why did they learn these skills?

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Because I don't. 
I don't know. 

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Maybe. 
Maybe they weren't playing 

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rescue for seven hours. 
A day, Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
They didn't have computers. 

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That's the difference, isn't it?
Yeah, it's it annoys me and it's

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it's frustrating and you've got 
to swallow your pride, Even 

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learned to do it or solely 
pride. 

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And there's only one way you can
get good at stuff, which I'm 

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really crap at doing by the way 
because if I'm not good at it 

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immediately, I'm like, well, 
there's no point doing it then 

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because I'm not good at it. 
But the only way to get good is 

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to do it crap a few times. 
Exactly. 

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Yeah. 
So it's just a constant cycle 

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of. 
Alba, Anyway, we did it again. 

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We waffled on about stuff no one
cares about. 

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So we finish off Mother's Day. 
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So if you're listening, If you 
are listening when we release. 

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In the UK it's mother's. 
Day in the UK. 

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It was Mother's Day yesterday, 
and it's a special one really. 

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Us. 
Because we're mothers. 

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We're mothers. 
Now, first time mothers maybe? 

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Obviously. 
Is it like Father's Day when all

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the moms get cards saying well 
done for being the father, see 

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that online? 
No that's just joke. 

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At the minute I'm, I'm, I'm 
honestly not involved because I 

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have children. 
Ohh, You're the means of like on

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Father's Day. 
Yeah. 

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And there's a lot of like people
like Happy Father's Day to all 

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the mums out there. 
And it's like the idea is 

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because they're single mums and 
they kind of do. 

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Do we get that? 
Tomorrow. 

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No, of course not. 
Because we're not doing both 

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roles. 
That's the point. 

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That's the point, you idiot. 
I think I have. 

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No idea. 
But it's a special one for us 

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because obviously we've we've 
had our children recently, so 

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it's the first Mother's Day for 
our gals, which is quite. 

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Nice. 
Yeah, got much planned. 

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Nah, nothing. 
Same. 

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Yeah. 
Anyway, should we move on to 

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the? 
Episode. 

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I expect a Living Father's Day 
card, though when it gets there,

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there's a lot. 
There's a. 

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Lot of days I was getting my 
hair cut this morning and I was 

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chatting to the Barber and again
it is lovely, but there's a lot 

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of days in the calendar, isn't 
it Valentine's Day, Mother's 

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Day, Just have a birthday get. 
Over it, Lauren's birthday, 

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Valentine's Day and Mother's Day
are all within one month. 

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Yeah, I kind of used up all my 
cards. 

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You want me to trump? 
Yeah, go on my mum's birthday. 

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Hmm. 
Her anniversary and Mother's Day

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when it happened were one day 
after the other. 

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Ohh, three in a row. 
So every year they're roughly 

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the same point. 
Today it was my mum's birthday 

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on Thursday. 
Also International Women's Day. 

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Shout to the women out there, 
but today, which is Saturday, is

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their wedding anniversary and 
Mother's Day is tomorrow. 

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Are you expected to like do 
something? 

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For their let me let me just. 
I'm glad. 

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You asked because I've never 
ever even been involved in 

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someone else's. 
Anniversary. 

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Because this is a great thing 
for the podcast, because I will 

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never understand it when when 
two people decide to get married

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and get annoyed and expect other
people to celebrate it for them.

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Nothing to do with me, nothing 
to congratulations as what I'll 

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say. 
Yeah. 

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Well, it's my wedding 
anniversary today. 

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Is it? 
Yeah, I got no of course it 

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isn't nothing. 
Is that actually a thing or is 

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it just your. 
It is. 

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I think it is. 
I think it is. 

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You have to you have to tell us 
like never heard of it. 

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It's it's an anniversary between
two people were, apparently. 

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Involved You celebrate it your 
it's like an internal. 

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There's a reason I'm not We're 
married. 

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Yeah. 
Can't be bothered. 

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Well, it sounds like you get a 
lot of gifts though. 

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Pick your date. 
Right. 

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Well, yeah, Might do that. 
Yeah. 

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Doubt my birthday. 
Yeah. 

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Double up, baby. 
Yeah. 

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But it's good for my mum because
again, she would have got her 

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stuff by now. 
But two reasons why it's good we

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can lump all everything in 
together and just get something 

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for both. 
And also my sister's arrange it 

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and I just do a bank transfer. 
Fantastic. 

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That's amazing. 
That's the benefit, isn't it, 

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Sisters? 
She's also arranged for Mother's

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Day. 
So it looks like I've done it. 

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I get the kudos because we're 
having dinner here. 

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My sister is arranged that and 
bringing the food. 

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Brilliant job. 
I'm gonna. 

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I'm gonna trump you once more. 
Go on, Lawrence ordered her own 

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Mother's Day gifts. 
From me Ohh no now. 

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She said, I don't know if you've
seen anything for Mother's Day, 

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but I've seen something I like, 
right? 

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And I was like, that's what I 
wanna hear. 

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Thank you. 
Yeah. 

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And she she bought herself some 
stuff and just basically just 

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told me how much it costs. 
Now we really have put off our 

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female listeners there thinking,
you idiots. 

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No, no, because I was gonna. 
No. 

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We've done loads for our 
partners and stuff, and anyone 

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who doesn't know, you have to 
listen, have a podcast. 

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But the point is, I was 
obviously gonna get something, 

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but it would have been crap 
compared to she wanted this 

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thing. 
Yeah, she found this thing and 

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she wanted it and I was very 
grateful. 

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I was just quickly end with the 
thing I got because you you know

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roughly what I got earlier 
because I used you to cover. 

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So I got Dylan to. 
I needed to go out today, 

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Saturday, it's Mother's Day 
tomorrow when we're recording 

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this and I needed to pick up 
something and pick up or get 

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well pick it up because I rang 
them first and I'm saying I need

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to find a time to actually go 
there and get this. 

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It's just a gift. 
Did you enjoy the gift card? 

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And I said Dylan, I need you to 
message the group chat and say 

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that you need my help lifting 
something so I could get out of 

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the house because I can't be a 
lawyer attached right now. 

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I can't get away from it without
being suspicious. 

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So anyway, Long story short, I 
went to get her. 

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This is short. 
Short short, short, short, I 

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hear. 
Voucher, I love the long, right?

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Yeah, that sort of stuff. 
Obviously I'm not someone very 

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experienced with hairdressing. 
Do you go to the barbers, 

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actually? 
Where the jokes? 

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The lady There, I said. 
I said cool. 

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Are you women? 
This is pricey for you, isn't 

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it? 
It's not like standing over a 

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bath and shaving your head. 
And she didn't get my joke. 

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It was really awkward. 
Then just silence of like, OK 

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and I had to clarify. 
I'm talking about me. 

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I'm bored still. 
Didn't laugh, still didn't 

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laugh. 
I know, Yeah. 

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Really awkward. 
She just thought, yeah. 

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Anyway, so I went this 
preconception of like maybe like

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a £50 voucher. 
Because I know. 

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Because I know women's. 
Haircuts are more expensive. 

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When he quit. 
Yeah. 24 was like women's, at 

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least double. 
I know that. 

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I know that. 
I get that. 

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I was like, she said, oh, you 
know how much you wanna put on 

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it. 
And I was looking at the menu of

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the stuff they do as if that 
means anything to me. 

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Literally, like a balayage, 
Please. 

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I don't know. 
Yeah, just like something where 

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she can be here for an hour or 
two and just have a whole hair 

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dyed or something if she wants 
or not. 

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I don't know, just something 
that will cover that. 

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She's like £100. 
You wouldn't have to pay too 

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much more. 
Sorry. 

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What? 
100 lbs? 

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I was like, yeah, I did that. 
And we wouldn't have to pay 

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much, much more. 
So I have My eyes were open 

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today for that. 
Yeah, the price of women's hair 

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care. 
Crikey. 

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Yeah. 
Crazy, right? 

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Thanks for that, guys. 30 
minutes of nonstop entertainment

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there. 
None. 

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We said it'd be unhinged at the 
start. 

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I did. 
It wasn't upset. 

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Change mean Boring. 
Just that. 

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What that? 
Means why do we do this? 

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Anyway, should we play the dingo
and get chatting about something

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to do Education. 
I don't know. 

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What the plan this week. 
You've seen the title? 

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Well, we'll find out. 
In a minute haven't. 

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We interrupt this podcast to 
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on Instagram who's quite funny 
and keeps their finger on the 

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pulse? 
Yes. 

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Instagram. 
Ohh wow how? 

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You can go to Instagram and you 
can search, teach, sleep, repeat

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podcast. 
You will get memes, you will get

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news, and you'll get the 
occasional story from Dylan when

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he decides to do one every now 
and. 

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Then wow, can I find out what 
you guys do for 13 minutes every

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time as well? 
No. 

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Ohh great. 
I'll follow straight. 

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Away now and leave us a five 
star review at all. 

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Platforms you're heading? 
Yeah mate, that was weird. 

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Sponsor. 
That was a weird one. 

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We decided to sponsor ourselves 
this week because we're not 

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getting money anyway because we 
switched out from other our 

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other three sponsor. 
Yeah, let's not mention him 

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again. 
No, let's not mention, James, 

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any financial planning anymore. 
So before we get into it, we are

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going to talk this week about 
kind of leads on from last week 

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what teachers expect from 
children to do at home and what 

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we think would be good for 
children to do at home in terms 

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of their learning. 
Because last week we talked 

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about where's the line as a 
teacher in school. 

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And I thought it'd be really 
cool to kind of push some 

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buttons because it's a bit of a 
topic that gets people riled up.

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And when teachers expect stuff 
to happen at home, we've 

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obviously done a whole episode 
about homework as you remember 

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him. 
Yeah, yeah, definitely. 

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Remember that. 
Remember last week? 

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All I know from last week is 
people got annoyed because I was

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very indecisive. 
Over it, all right. 

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Honestly, the amount of messages
I got from people like can 

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Hayden just decide please so 
that we can moan him being 

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wrong? 
Reflecting live on the podcast. 

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But before we go any further, I 
we have to mention this, I did a

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real about Gillian Keegan. 
For anyone who doesn't know, 

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Gillian Keegan is the Education 
Secretary of the UK. 

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She is in charge of the 
Department for Education. 

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She's been in the job for quite 
a while now. 

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When we think about how long 
people are usually in this kind 

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of job in this country, it's not
very long because it's so 

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unstable. 
And and you got to remember the 

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context here of we've been 
striking for almost like a year,

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right. 
And there's balloting again for 

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extra strikes in the UK because 
she's wanting to give teachers 

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an A 1% pay rise, like just 
unacceptable after everything 

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happened. 
Anyway, she's on the stage 

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talking about education. 
She talks about Ofsted, right. 

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And she said the fact there's 
two parts to this. 

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The first part was she mentioned
she went into a school recently 

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and the school told her about 
their experience of Ofsted and 

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she said she was shocked because
the, the, the inspector was so 

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rude. 
And I honestly, when I was when 

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I was watching, I was like what 
you're you're you're shocked She

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in in March 2024 she was shocked
when her school said they had a 

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bad experience with. 
No. 

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What? 
What have you been doing? 

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Do we role play? 
You're right. 

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You come into my school, OK? 
Yeah. 

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Hi, Gillian. 
Hi. 

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Hi. 
Fantastic school. 

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Thank you. 
I think it's brilliant. 

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And I saw no, you've been out 
Ofsted, you've got good reason. 

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Yeah, we did. 
Wanted to talk to you about now 

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because I know we did get a good
rating and obviously. 

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You know, all the life and as we
surely education minister, you 

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know all about that kind of 
thing. 

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Yeah. 
And I just thought I'd give you 

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up perspective because we had 
Ofsted and to be honest. 

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It was good. 
Yeah, well, they said good at 

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the end. 
But the the experience, the 

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whole process, it was actually 
really bad. 

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They were really, they were 
really quite rude. 

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Bad. 
Yeah, rude. 

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Yeah. 
Offset. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
I don't know. 

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Yeah, you seem. 
Shocked. 

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They've what? 
Well, they said they was good. 

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They're obviously I've not 
heard. 

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Sorry. 
I'm gonna get my PR guy. 

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Yeah, we've had a bad Ofsted 
experience. 

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Yeah, no, I know. 
It's not normally like that. 

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No, it is. 
That's what I'm kind of. 

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I will do something about that. 
Well, you're going on stage 

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soon, so I was thinking. 
Yeah, yeah, that's what I was 

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just thinking. 
Yeah, OK, cool. 

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Anyway, that's what happened. 
And then so she mentioned that 

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she was shocked. 
Very, very. 

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I was just like, I almost. 
I was in despair. 

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I was like, all right, forget 
that. 

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It's what she said. 
After that was even funnier 

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because I thought, OK, she's the
education secretary, maybe she's

460
00:17:10,089 --> 00:17:13,349
just setting herself up to be 
like, yeah, sure, it was bad. 

461
00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,730
And then go on to say some 
constructive feedback as to what

462
00:17:16,740 --> 00:17:19,470
she's going to do about it, as 
the person literally in charge 

463
00:17:19,700 --> 00:17:21,579
or some ideas of where we go 
from. 

464
00:17:21,589 --> 00:17:23,170
There, which I imagine is 
exactly what she did. 

465
00:17:23,180 --> 00:17:25,630
And it's better, yeah. 
To, I guess from her 

466
00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,410
perspective, pretend like she 
didn't know was rather than be 

467
00:17:28,420 --> 00:17:31,210
like, yeah, we've known it's 
been bad for three years and now

468
00:17:31,220 --> 00:17:33,310
I feel like doing something 
about it to be like, yeah, I've 

469
00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,590
now suddenly alert. 
And because I've now aware of 

470
00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,730
this, I'm of course gonna action
this straight away. 

471
00:17:37,740 --> 00:17:39,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 
obviously. 

472
00:17:39,330 --> 00:17:41,610
And that that I I can understand
that politically, especially if 

473
00:17:41,620 --> 00:17:43,130
she went on to say some really 
constructive stuff. 

474
00:17:43,140 --> 00:17:46,390
Yeah, she didn't know because 
all she said was I was really 

475
00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,050
shocked. 
And to be quite honest, I would 

476
00:17:48,060 --> 00:17:50,760
have punched them in the face. 
OK. 

477
00:17:50,770 --> 00:17:52,110
Is that her advice? 
That's what we should. 

478
00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:52,870
Do. 
And that was it. 

479
00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,670
Yeah, she did. 
She would have punched him in 

480
00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:55,830
the. 
Face was that not followed up? 

481
00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,620
Ohh. 
No, that followed the 

482
00:17:57,630 --> 00:17:59,350
interviewer said, Ohh, we are 
recording this. 

483
00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:02,400
And she went, Oh yeah, well, as 
you know, as a politician you 

484
00:18:02,410 --> 00:18:05,630
expect to get people attack you,
but not as a school leader, not 

485
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:06,880
as a school. 
Don't expect someone to be rude 

486
00:18:06,890 --> 00:18:08,710
to you as a school leader. 
I was honest to God. 

487
00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,400
I was like, you're the person 
who's being rude to us for years

488
00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:14,690
of of saying we're striking for 
no reason. 

489
00:18:15,030 --> 00:18:17,500
What's wrong with her? 
Yeah, I don't get it. 

490
00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:20,090
Because she she's there going, 
Yeah, I think school leaders 

491
00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:21,780
wouldn't expect to be talked to 
like that. 

492
00:18:21,870 --> 00:18:23,380
You. 
Talk to us like that. 

493
00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,790
Every time we say we're striking
for the reasons you're saying 

494
00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,730
you're shocked about. 
I can't believe her brain went 

495
00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:29,430
to physical violence. 
No. 

496
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,920
It's like politicians are so 
well trained and saying the 

497
00:18:31,930 --> 00:18:32,680
right thing. 
Exactly. 

498
00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:35,210
So I just find it weird that it 
slip through the net there. 

499
00:18:35,220 --> 00:18:37,060
And she said that. 
I bet you regret it immediately.

500
00:18:37,070 --> 00:18:39,620
But if you're in the staff room,
you hear that kind of language, 

501
00:18:39,630 --> 00:18:41,900
you'd laugh it off and you just 
go past and you you would 

502
00:18:41,910 --> 00:18:43,590
probably you wouldn't know 
they're not being serious. 

503
00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,620
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Like so I I get the whole thing.

504
00:18:45,630 --> 00:18:47,870
We sensationalise it a bit 
sometimes when it's politicians.

505
00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,030
But let's just for once she's 
she's the Department for 

506
00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,990
Education leader, the, you know,
the Secretary of State, the 

507
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,460
government who's in charge of 
it. 

508
00:18:55,690 --> 00:18:59,320
And she said she'd punch them in
the face like she's the one in 

509
00:18:59,330 --> 00:19:01,880
charge of what can possibly 
change in this situation. 

510
00:19:01,890 --> 00:19:04,920
And her response is she'd punch.
Do you know where you know you 

511
00:19:04,930 --> 00:19:07,970
could do Gillian, you could sort
it out instead. 

512
00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:09,580
You also have the power over 
that. 

513
00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:11,360
Person. 
If only you were the person in 

514
00:19:11,370 --> 00:19:13,320
charge of the whole thing. 
Of the person getting. 

515
00:19:13,330 --> 00:19:14,710
Punched Ohh. 
Wait, wait, wait a minute. 

516
00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:16,700
You are why me up. 
So yeah. 

517
00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:18,040
That's mad. 
Mad. 

518
00:19:18,090 --> 00:19:20,540
Yeah, that's a little bit of 
better news for this week. 

519
00:19:20,590 --> 00:19:22,160
Thank you. 
Yeah, no problem. 

520
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,570
Blouses. 
Yeah, well, I just didn't know. 

521
00:19:24,620 --> 00:19:26,730
Yeah, but I'm still doing. 
You don't know anything. 

522
00:19:26,780 --> 00:19:30,110
No, I just can't believe that 
body Ofsted. 

523
00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:31,610
Honestly. 
I've told them to be nice. 

524
00:19:31,620 --> 00:19:32,990
I have. 
And they've. 

525
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,770
Still, put him in mental anyway.
Hate him. 

526
00:19:35,820 --> 00:19:37,940
Yeah, we're gonna have a nice 
chat now and these are my 

527
00:19:37,950 --> 00:19:40,560
favourite things where we can 
just think, reflect on our 

528
00:19:40,570 --> 00:19:43,770
experience and you know what, 
Give our advice out to other 

529
00:19:43,780 --> 00:19:45,190
people, both teachers and 
parents. 

530
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,180
For this one, I suppose you 
don't. 

531
00:19:46,190 --> 00:19:48,270
You don't necessarily have to be
a teacher to get out of this. 

532
00:19:48,340 --> 00:19:50,470
If you're a teacher, maybe you 
can message us and say do you 

533
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,390
agree or the other things you'd 
rather get from children at 

534
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,720
home. 
However, quite simply, Hadem 

535
00:19:54,770 --> 00:19:58,910
Yep, you are a teacher. 
I am OK, it doesn't really 

536
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,920
matter where you are in your 
teaching career, it doesn't. 

537
00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:08,310
But what would you? 
Want a child to be doing at home

538
00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:11,950
alongside their time in school? 
Mm-hmm. 

539
00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:15,860
To maximise their education and 
their ability to learn. 

540
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,810
Anything in the world, I can 
pick anything. 

541
00:20:20,070 --> 00:20:21,530
Yeah. 
What what do you want from a 

542
00:20:21,540 --> 00:20:24,100
child if you if if a parent came
up to you the highest priority 

543
00:20:24,110 --> 00:20:25,970
right. 
What what can I do at home? 

544
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,030
What can I do at home to help 
and and and you have to you 

545
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,120
think just from your point of 
view, quite simply what would 

546
00:20:32,130 --> 00:20:33,590
you say? 
Read, read, read, read, read. 

547
00:20:33,630 --> 00:20:36,250
So just to me it's like it's not
even on the same level as 

548
00:20:36,260 --> 00:20:39,070
anything else. 
Read books with them so much. 

549
00:20:39,660 --> 00:20:42,010
Why? 
Because I mean firstly from my 

550
00:20:42,020 --> 00:20:44,960
perspective just like on on the 
ground floor you do just notice 

551
00:20:44,970 --> 00:20:47,610
that the children that read more
generally generally do just 

552
00:20:47,620 --> 00:20:50,100
perform better at school and 
enjoy school more and they can 

553
00:20:50,110 --> 00:20:52,990
just read to one. 
But yeah but there's actual 

554
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,470
there's loads of evidence and 
data isn't it to show that kids 

555
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,800
that read more generally 
obviously you get your outlines 

556
00:20:57,810 --> 00:21:00,600
is someone does well actually 
this I know the kid that read 

557
00:21:00,610 --> 00:21:03,480
loads and they didn't do very 
well in this at all yeah. 

558
00:21:03,490 --> 00:21:08,060
But generally children that read
lots one enjoy learning more and

559
00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:10,490
two generally just do well 
academically. 

560
00:21:10,530 --> 00:21:12,650
So it's like, can we can we just
do more of that, do more of? 

561
00:21:12,660 --> 00:21:15,280
That, OK. 
So that's interesting. 

562
00:21:15,570 --> 00:21:17,840
Let's strip it back a bit 
because what we're talking about

563
00:21:17,850 --> 00:21:20,770
is basically for a child to 
develop and learn as they go 

564
00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:23,150
through. 
First of all, they spend four or

565
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,910
five years at home, maybe doing 
nursery sometimes or better. 

566
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,590
Preschool. 
Yeah, before they even get into 

567
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,600
the school system. 
We know how important that is. 

568
00:21:29,660 --> 00:21:32,280
OK, So I I don't think we're 
going to sit here and chat about

569
00:21:32,290 --> 00:21:34,120
what we should be doing in those
early years because you know, 

570
00:21:34,130 --> 00:21:36,980
plays fundamental. 
Socialising with children's 

571
00:21:36,990 --> 00:21:39,670
fundamental obviously early 
sounds and reading and numeracy 

572
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,170
and writing and stuff. 
Fundamental. 

573
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,950
Let's look at it now from the 
point of view of your your child

574
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,570
is in the school system, at 
school, they're getting on fine.

575
00:21:47,580 --> 00:21:49,920
They're not one who needs loads 
of which support and help. 

576
00:21:49,930 --> 00:21:52,270
They don't have a specific. 
You know, very average. 

577
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,510
Middle run-of-the-mill child 
that's at home. 

578
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,270
Because what I've noticed is a 
lot of people who may be resent 

579
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,050
the school system, umm kind of 
they don't like being told that 

580
00:22:02,060 --> 00:22:04,710
they should be also doing stuff 
at home with their child's. 

581
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,250
True. 
And there's a bit of a you know 

582
00:22:06,260 --> 00:22:08,740
a lot of a lot of parents 
absolutely understand this but 

583
00:22:08,750 --> 00:22:11,460
there's a there is a big chunk 
of the population who kind of 

584
00:22:11,470 --> 00:22:13,610
think well they go to school 
don't they. 

585
00:22:13,660 --> 00:22:15,790
So you know that's their 
education sorted, that's the 

586
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,080
teachers job and kind of get 
their back up a bit of the 

587
00:22:18,090 --> 00:22:19,450
teacher ever suggest that what 
they could be? 

588
00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:22,480
Doing ever had that as an actual
parent in front of you on like a

589
00:22:22,490 --> 00:22:24,120
parents evening or something 
saying that's your. 

590
00:22:24,130 --> 00:22:25,860
Job. 
No, I've I've had parents say 

591
00:22:26,110 --> 00:22:28,160
they'd rather prioritise other 
thing with their home. 

592
00:22:28,170 --> 00:22:31,340
Time I have and have you I've 
I've had like multiple parents 

593
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:34,130
in my career. 
Like rudely be like, no, I'm not

594
00:22:34,140 --> 00:22:35,780
doing that. 
I'm not doing your job. 

595
00:22:35,790 --> 00:22:37,600
If they can't do this, you you 
teach him. 

596
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:39,870
I was like, whoa, OK. 
It's just timetables and they're

597
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,820
in your six. 
Yeah. 

598
00:22:41,050 --> 00:22:43,380
So how would, how would you go 
about that then let's talk first

599
00:22:43,390 --> 00:22:46,540
I guess about the macro stuff in
terms of approaching it. 

600
00:22:47,310 --> 00:22:49,580
Do you think it's suitable? 
Because last week I spent a lot 

601
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:51,330
of time saying that it's 
absolutely not the job of a 

602
00:22:51,340 --> 00:22:54,350
teacher to be teaching a child 
how to brush their teeth, how to

603
00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:56,530
how to be potty trained. 
That's that's absolutely on the 

604
00:22:56,540 --> 00:22:58,150
parent. 
So there'll be a lot of people 

605
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,270
saying I'm a hypocrite maybe 
this week, but I I just think 

606
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,710
it's different when it's your 
own child. 

607
00:23:01,750 --> 00:23:04,790
You're the number one, you're 
the you're the number one leader

608
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,080
of their life, essentially, and 
you supplement it by sending 

609
00:23:08,090 --> 00:23:09,100
them to school and you. 
Supplement. 

610
00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:10,530
You outsource a bit of that 
time? 

611
00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:12,190
Yeah, exactly. 
So go and do something. 

612
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,300
Exactly that. 
But it's your responsibility and

613
00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:18,040
the day is the development of 
that child, It's mine to develop

614
00:23:18,050 --> 00:23:19,810
them in a way where I'm leading 
curriculum, helping them. 

615
00:23:19,820 --> 00:23:21,700
It's almost like an MOT. 
Yeah, I was gonna say. 

616
00:23:23,030 --> 00:23:27,080
Well, the point is, again, so 
would you ever, You'd never go 

617
00:23:27,090 --> 00:23:30,360
take your car to the garage, you
would never know. 

618
00:23:31,290 --> 00:23:34,900
But you said to the garage have 
an MOT and they're like, cool, 

619
00:23:34,910 --> 00:23:37,260
OK, I need to fix this, this and
this because I'm a specialist 

620
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:38,960
engineer. 
Only I can do that. 

621
00:23:39,060 --> 00:23:40,980
So I'm going to fix that because
obviously you can't. 

622
00:23:40,990 --> 00:23:42,240
However, here are some 
advisories. 

623
00:23:42,250 --> 00:23:44,260
Maybe top up your oil. 
Maybe you could just. 

624
00:23:44,270 --> 00:23:46,650
You know I'm not good with. 
Cars check your tyres because 

625
00:23:46,660 --> 00:23:47,840
they probably about six months 
on them. 

626
00:23:47,850 --> 00:23:49,310
Exactly. 
And, you know, change the tyres 

627
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,140
to go somewhere and change your 
tyres, you look up the right 

628
00:23:51,150 --> 00:23:52,410
thread, the right, you know, 
that's your. 

629
00:23:52,420 --> 00:23:53,640
Job, yeah, but they're not doing
it. 

630
00:23:53,650 --> 00:23:55,810
They're they're not doing it 
there and then and then over the

631
00:23:55,820 --> 00:23:59,330
year you maintain the car. 
Yeah you look after the car. 

632
00:23:59,380 --> 00:24:02,150
It's it's it is also your if you
would never turn around to a 

633
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,440
garage and say but passing MOT 
this year why is this gone 

634
00:24:04,450 --> 00:24:05,150
wrong. 
Yeah. 

635
00:24:05,220 --> 00:24:06,880
So I'd. 
I'd see it the same kind of 

636
00:24:06,890 --> 00:24:08,910
things. 
Your child, you're in charge of 

637
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,970
that car, you're in charge of 
that child development, Yeah. 

638
00:24:12,980 --> 00:24:17,010
And I think the the attitude has
to be that they're going to take

639
00:24:17,020 --> 00:24:19,640
a role in that. 
Like, I got a new analogy for 

640
00:24:19,650 --> 00:24:20,610
you. 
Think about this. 

641
00:24:20,620 --> 00:24:24,310
What if you take your car to a 
garage for about 6 hours every 

642
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,050
day of the year, minus, minus, 
you know, a bunch of sort of 

643
00:24:27,060 --> 00:24:29,590
half terms, let's call them, and
like weekends. 

644
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,830
Let's call on that. 
Would you would you still expect

645
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,680
to have to do the daily 
maintenance on your car if it 

646
00:24:35,690 --> 00:24:38,640
was at the garage 6 hours a day?
Not daily, not daily. 

647
00:24:38,650 --> 00:24:43,980
But I would expect that whenever
I use the car, me outside and if

648
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:47,130
I use the car, I wouldn't be 
harshly braking. 

649
00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:49,310
I would, I wouldn't be rinsing 
the clutch, right. 

650
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:49,700
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

651
00:24:49,710 --> 00:24:51,890
I'd be looking after, yeah. 
And they're like, what's that? 

652
00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:54,080
I need to add some oil. 
Let me do some times tables to 

653
00:24:54,090 --> 00:24:57,020
your car. 
We do a bit of reading, yeah. 

654
00:24:57,070 --> 00:24:58,620
Yeah. 
And that actually falls down at 

655
00:24:58,630 --> 00:25:01,110
some point. 
But I think we can all agree 

656
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:06,390
that there has to be some kind 
of expectation as to they're 

657
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,200
not. 
Use your child. 

658
00:25:09,740 --> 00:25:12,750
You gotta do something. 
Yeah, OK, So what we're going to

659
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,430
do, we'll go through all the 
different things you can do at 

660
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,060
home, OK? 
And again, really interested if 

661
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:19,860
people agree or not. 
We might disagree cause we've 

662
00:25:19,870 --> 00:25:22,290
not talked through this remotely
as teachers. 

663
00:25:22,300 --> 00:25:24,430
We're going to say what we would
want children to be doing at 

664
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,590
home in different aspects of 
their learning. 

665
00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:31,700
If you're just a parent this 
thing utility. 

666
00:25:31,710 --> 00:25:33,660
If we're asking too much, I 
don't know. 

667
00:25:33,670 --> 00:25:34,960
But do you have reading, by the 
way? 

668
00:25:34,970 --> 00:25:37,090
We never went back to. 
That yeah, we started reading. 

669
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:39,740
I'm gonna start reading. 
So readings are #1 for me. 

670
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:42,200
I'll start, I'll start off by 
saying, well, I think in terms 

671
00:25:42,210 --> 00:25:43,360
of reading. 
Always do. 

672
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:48,100
In terms of reading, either I 
asked you a question with my 

673
00:25:48,110 --> 00:25:50,310
answer already in my head, I'll 
wait for you to finish, or I 

674
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,440
started by so I'm going to start
my one here. 

675
00:25:52,570 --> 00:25:56,070
I'd I'd agree with you. 
In terms of readings #1 so you 

676
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,260
know if your child is struggling
to read, first and foremost work

677
00:25:59,270 --> 00:26:01,260
with your school to find out 
what level they're at, what 

678
00:26:01,330 --> 00:26:03,970
looks a suitable for them, Read 
with them as much as possible, 

679
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,170
try and find a niche for them 
that they're interested in. 

680
00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:08,690
Because at the end of the day, 
why is reading important? 

681
00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:11,370
It does unlock literally 
everything, because if a if a 

682
00:26:11,380 --> 00:26:14,750
child really a positive reader 
who can read, well, it allows 

683
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,770
them to learn about history, it 
allows them to learn about 

684
00:26:16,780 --> 00:26:18,880
geography, allows them to do 
research and that all them 

685
00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:21,600
enrichment kind of activities 
stem from reading. 

686
00:26:21,940 --> 00:26:23,410
So I do completely agree with 
you there. 

687
00:26:23,420 --> 00:26:26,230
And even maths, if you think 
about the big chunk of the maths

688
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,710
paper, if we're thinking about 
stats from a teacher point of 

689
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,770
view. 
But then if we just forget that 

690
00:26:30,780 --> 00:26:33,700
and think about life, mass is 
always in context of 

691
00:26:33,710 --> 00:26:36,340
understanding without a 
situation, understanding what's 

692
00:26:36,350 --> 00:26:38,430
going on, being able to read 
something and and and know this 

693
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,110
is what we need to do. 
Yeah, it's problem solving. 

694
00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:42,620
Cause my kids are often ask why 
are we doing this? 

695
00:26:42,670 --> 00:26:45,750
Yeah. 
Yeah, and I think it's a really 

696
00:26:45,790 --> 00:26:47,830
rubbish answer to be like this 
is gonna come when you come up 

697
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,630
on your desk. 
It's such a bad answer, even 

698
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,860
though it's real, that is true. 
Is going to come up in your 

699
00:26:51,870 --> 00:26:55,240
test, and that test will have 
some very, very small bearing on

700
00:26:55,250 --> 00:26:57,200
your life the way it direction 
it goes. 

701
00:26:57,210 --> 00:26:59,510
That's interesting because in 
terms of in terms of what I 

702
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,200
expect from home, where are you 
in this barometer? 

703
00:27:02,210 --> 00:27:05,180
Because in school I think it's 
perfectly acceptable for me to 

704
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:08,320
be thinking about end of year 
goals, end of year targets and 

705
00:27:08,370 --> 00:27:10,760
and even end of key stage 
targets in terms of their test 

706
00:27:10,770 --> 00:27:12,560
and that's what the schools 
judge them. 

707
00:27:12,750 --> 00:27:15,400
If ever I ask someone to do 
something at home or expect of 

708
00:27:15,410 --> 00:27:17,770
them to do something at home, 
the goal posts are completely 

709
00:27:17,780 --> 00:27:19,860
different. 
I I don't actually expect 

710
00:27:19,950 --> 00:27:23,300
anything at home to do with my 
targets in school with the 

711
00:27:23,310 --> 00:27:24,900
children. 
Everything I think about what 

712
00:27:24,910 --> 00:27:27,280
I'd want a child to be doing at 
home is based around enrichment,

713
00:27:27,290 --> 00:27:30,080
enjoyment and overall academic 
success. 

714
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,630
So that's the same with reading.
I would never say to it. 

715
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,900
I never ever expect a child to 
go home and be practising 3 mark

716
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,120
inference. 
Questions. 

717
00:27:38,130 --> 00:27:39,050
Yeah, from a reading. 
Text. 

718
00:27:39,060 --> 00:27:40,880
Never. 
I I'd want them to find out 

719
00:27:40,890 --> 00:27:43,130
whether you know they could be 
some of my kids at school. 

720
00:27:43,140 --> 00:27:46,160
Right. 
And I say to them that they're 

721
00:27:46,170 --> 00:27:48,960
sticker album with the with 
footballers and stuff and 

722
00:27:48,970 --> 00:27:51,130
there's little paragraphs about 
the teams that I was like that's

723
00:27:51,140 --> 00:27:53,710
read read, read that just read 
read that for a week. 

724
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,310
I don't care. 
Read the newspaper. 

725
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:56,760
Do whatever you want and what 
you're. 

726
00:27:56,770 --> 00:27:58,590
Interested, so it won't help me 
answer the tests. 

727
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,270
Yeah, don't care. 
I don't care. 

728
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,560
I think that's why readings on a
different level, because I think

729
00:28:02,570 --> 00:28:06,540
reading is way more integrated 
into literally being able to be 

730
00:28:06,550 --> 00:28:09,090
a functioning member of society.
Yeah, do you know, I mean it's 

731
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:10,800
it's so much more important to 
read. 

732
00:28:10,810 --> 00:28:12,990
It's such a bigger hindrance if 
you if you're struggling to. 

733
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,460
Read and if you can't, do a 
conjunction. 

734
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:16,200
Exactly and and and equally with
maths. 

735
00:28:16,210 --> 00:28:17,690
I think maths. 
Even though I'm more passionate 

736
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:19,830
about math because I enjoy the 
subject, yeah, I still don't 

737
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,140
think it's anywhere near AS. 
Important. 

738
00:28:21,150 --> 00:28:23,920
Well, all you need to do is look
at society today and whether we 

739
00:28:23,930 --> 00:28:25,720
agree with it or not, and I 
think it's a problem. 

740
00:28:25,790 --> 00:28:28,180
I do think that we need to boost
maths in general, that the 

741
00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:31,440
attitude towards it, but we are 
a functioning society and far 

742
00:28:31,450 --> 00:28:34,310
more people and read while they 
can do maths well, yeah, so that

743
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,030
just kind of sums up. 
To me, yeah, but then but then 

744
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,030
again it's just like but can 
people get on more easily in 

745
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,370
life if they can't do maths at 
all? 

746
00:28:41,380 --> 00:28:45,030
No, exactly, I think so. 
I think you mean if you can't 

747
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,620
read it's way more noticeable. 
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm 

748
00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:49,710
saying. 
We're in a functioning society 

749
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,980
where people are much. 
More able to see you're actually

750
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:55,420
using that point. 
No, no no, no that that's that's

751
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:57,440
that's kind of justifying why 
reading so important. 

752
00:28:57,490 --> 00:29:00,630
So, thinking about maths, then 
what you know, What's your 

753
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,080
expectation as a teacher? 
What? 

754
00:29:02,090 --> 00:29:04,120
Would you? 
OK, very quickly, let's. 

755
00:29:04,130 --> 00:29:06,790
I think each time we go through 
something we should just say at 

756
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,040
the end, be very blunt as 
teachers, what do we want? 

757
00:29:10,050 --> 00:29:11,100
Children. 
To be doing right, so we gonna 

758
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:11,940
finish reading. 
Out then, Yes. 

759
00:29:11,950 --> 00:29:13,220
So let's finish up reading real 
quick. 

760
00:29:13,230 --> 00:29:16,960
So in terms of reading, what I'd
expect them to be doing at home 

761
00:29:16,970 --> 00:29:21,030
is I would say this, read as 
much as possible and a minimum 

762
00:29:21,090 --> 00:29:23,560
of half an hour a week is what I
would say to someone. 

763
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,500
But read as much as possible. 
And I don't care what you're 

764
00:29:26,510 --> 00:29:27,890
reading. 
Yeah, that that's what I would 

765
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:29,050
say. 
And the goal posts, nothing to 

766
00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:30,940
do. 
The test, that's simply because 

767
00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:33,390
it will help them develop. 
Yeah, and I say minimum half an 

768
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,170
hour, but read as much. 
As possible, quite a low amount 

769
00:29:35,180 --> 00:29:36,890
actually. 
I probably I I think I'm quite 

770
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:39,250
harsh with this then and I'm 
quite strict on minimum, but I 

771
00:29:39,260 --> 00:29:42,350
think 10 minutes a day and I 
think that's my minimum. 

772
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,790
Maybe that's a bit mean. 
OK, so would you be happy with a

773
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,420
child chunking it? 
Missing a day of reading, but 

774
00:29:48,430 --> 00:29:48,800
doing. 
Half. 

775
00:29:48,810 --> 00:29:52,510
Now these rules can be bent 
slightly I suppose, but like 

776
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,110
really strict. 
It was 1 chunk a week though I'd

777
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,310
be a bit like yeah, in terms of 
OK, you've missed, you've 

778
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,700
missed. 
One Would you Would you go as 

779
00:29:58,710 --> 00:30:01,760
far to say, read every day? 
Well, yeah, I think so. 

780
00:30:01,770 --> 00:30:03,700
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Reading every day, I think. 

781
00:30:03,710 --> 00:30:04,910
I think it's gonna have a huge 
impact. 

782
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,800
To be honest with you. 
But I think that's easy to 

783
00:30:06,850 --> 00:30:10,040
attain if we kind of get away 
from it has to be their reading 

784
00:30:10,050 --> 00:30:11,520
book at school. 
Because it could. 

785
00:30:11,530 --> 00:30:13,880
It could be as simple as when 
you're cooking, they're read the

786
00:30:13,890 --> 00:30:14,920
ingredients in the back. 
Yeah. 

787
00:30:14,930 --> 00:30:16,610
That's reading just. 
Yeah, that's I think. 

788
00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:18,100
I think. 
But I agree with you then we 

789
00:30:18,110 --> 00:30:19,820
need to expand that scope 
probably. 

790
00:30:20,050 --> 00:30:22,440
And and then parents won't feel 
as bad for not meeting these 

791
00:30:22,450 --> 00:30:23,550
targets. 
Because I think what happens a 

792
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,940
lot of the time is as schools, 
we have these very rigid rules. 

793
00:30:25,950 --> 00:30:28,940
Like you said, you read X 
amounts per week for X amount of

794
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:30,110
time. 
You get these signatures in your

795
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:30,770
book. 
Yeah. 

796
00:30:30,860 --> 00:30:33,510
Realistically, from my point of 
view, I don't really care about 

797
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,110
all that. 
I know. 

798
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,090
I know there's reasons why we do
it and it's to try and get a 

799
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:38,370
minimum threshold. 
But I personally would get rid 

800
00:30:38,380 --> 00:30:40,730
of reading records and just 
foster this environment of 

801
00:30:40,740 --> 00:30:42,600
reading for pleasure. 
Reading for the sake of it. 

802
00:30:42,820 --> 00:30:45,290
Reading ingredients on the back 
of something when you're cooking

803
00:30:45,340 --> 00:30:47,050
a Curry that we're gonna get 
later on. 

804
00:30:47,060 --> 00:30:49,890
Which we're gonna convince 
everyone and you know just just 

805
00:30:49,940 --> 00:30:52,750
anything out loud. 
Yeah, this environment of your 

806
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,550
reader and you can read whatever
it could be. 

807
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,190
The lyrics on a Spotify song. 
Yeah. 

808
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,120
You know I love the idea of just
you know, they're listening to 

809
00:30:58,130 --> 00:30:59,430
Taylor Swift. 
Cool. 

810
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,930
Spotify has this speech now 
where the bricks come up. 

811
00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:04,510
So you could be singing along 
and just and reading as you go. 

812
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,850
Put the subtitles on the telly 
when you watch the telly that's 

813
00:31:06,860 --> 00:31:08,910
reading. 
Like all of this I think, should

814
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,010
count towards reading. 
And I think this macro idea of 

815
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,480
becoming a reader is a huge 
thing. 

816
00:31:14,490 --> 00:31:16,900
We can push at home in general 
if we have that, Yeah. 

817
00:31:16,910 --> 00:31:18,930
And it should be an expectation 
this will leave it on. 

818
00:31:18,940 --> 00:31:20,730
I think that's the highest, 
highest priority. 

819
00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:23,170
And yeah, it's an expectation, 
you know, you mentioned maths. 

820
00:31:23,180 --> 00:31:26,060
I want you to quickly talk about
the rest of English though, OK? 

821
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:28,130
Because I think this is 
different tiers here where we 

822
00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:30,360
will get onto maths. 
I'd say reading and maths are 

823
00:31:30,370 --> 00:31:32,680
probably the most important, and
that's kind of leading into what

824
00:31:32,690 --> 00:31:34,460
we're gonna say now. 
And I I think I know where you 

825
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:36,300
stand here. 
So what? 

826
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:38,180
What would be your expectations 
as a teacher? 

827
00:31:38,250 --> 00:31:40,520
Yeah, very bluntly. 
Well, we'll expand after. 

828
00:31:40,670 --> 00:31:44,480
What would you say to a parent a
child must be doing at home with

829
00:31:44,490 --> 00:31:47,560
writing. 
Must be doing at home. 

830
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,810
Not not not like not not your 
what you could be doing to. 

831
00:31:51,820 --> 00:31:52,380
Help. 
I don't. 

832
00:31:52,390 --> 00:31:53,390
You would. 
Controversial. 

833
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,750
Nothing. 
Hmm. 

834
00:31:54,790 --> 00:31:57,250
Honestly must be writing. 
Nothing. 

835
00:31:57,260 --> 00:31:59,810
I'll do that at school. 
They do plenty of writing at 

836
00:31:59,820 --> 00:32:01,770
school. 
If six hours a day of writing in

837
00:32:01,780 --> 00:32:04,470
various subjects not enough, 
then just leave them alone. 

838
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,220
Don't read some books instead. 
I don't know. 

839
00:32:07,230 --> 00:32:09,540
That's why I think you remember 
we are talking about the 

840
00:32:09,550 --> 00:32:11,290
average. 
If someone came to me and said 

841
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:13,240
my child is really, really 
struggling this thing, obviously

842
00:32:13,250 --> 00:32:15,270
I'm going to give them advice 
and be like you should be doing 

843
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,680
some of these. 
Activities just face off again. 

844
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,300
Is. 
I think I'm ignoring children 

845
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:21,720
especially, but I think 
something. 

846
00:32:21,730 --> 00:32:23,330
No, no, no. 
We've we've established all 

847
00:32:23,340 --> 00:32:24,630
that. 
Yeah, If anyone skipped to this,

848
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,770
then you missed all the 
establishment. 

849
00:32:25,780 --> 00:32:26,950
You're gonna miss all that. 
That's fine. 

850
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,360
Yeah. 
And so, so writing genuinely, 

851
00:32:29,370 --> 00:32:31,400
then. 
If if a child in your class did 

852
00:32:31,410 --> 00:32:33,780
absolutely no writing all year 
last year with them. 

853
00:32:33,980 --> 00:32:36,070
Outside of school. 
Yeah, outside of school, you'd 

854
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,290
be like that's. 
OK, yeah, because I think that's

855
00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:41,100
basically what happens now. 
Yeah. 

856
00:32:41,150 --> 00:32:43,960
I think anyone that does, it's 
always like an extra bonus, like

857
00:32:43,970 --> 00:32:45,800
wow, well done, you've done. 
You know, I had, I had a kid 

858
00:32:45,860 --> 00:32:46,950
and. 
I'd encourage it though. 

859
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,420
Right. 
Yeah. 

860
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:47,840
Good. 
Yeah. 

861
00:32:47,850 --> 00:32:50,210
Yeah I actually quite often 
place my kids ohh go home and 

862
00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:51,560
maybe we're doing independent 
right. 

863
00:32:51,570 --> 00:32:53,410
Yeah we've planned it. 
If they're interested. 

864
00:32:53,420 --> 00:32:54,850
Like I have a little practise 
tonight. 

865
00:32:54,860 --> 00:32:56,290
I see you can write a paragraph 
bring it in. 

866
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,910
I will have a look at it. 
You know you can improve it 

867
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,090
tomorrow. 
They never do but you get the 

868
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:01,650
odd odd time. 
So there's a kid. 

869
00:33:01,660 --> 00:33:03,440
I won't obviously can't say the 
name on the podcast but if 

870
00:33:03,450 --> 00:33:05,240
someone that you talk a couple 
of years ago and I know you were

871
00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:08,890
really fond of this of this kid 
and he brought in a story a 

872
00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:10,590
script. 
He brought in a script recently 

873
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:12,350
written this whole script. 
Him and his mate. 

874
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,610
How cute is this? 
Him and his mates have written a

875
00:33:14,620 --> 00:33:15,990
script and they're all 
characters in it. 

876
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,190
I'm a character in it. 
You're a character in it and 

877
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,360
it's just like just it's not 
just a funny story. 

878
00:33:20,370 --> 00:33:21,950
And he was really wanted me to 
read it. 

879
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,180
Yeah. 
And all I wanted to do. 

880
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:24,650
I didn't care about the quality 
of the writing. 

881
00:33:24,660 --> 00:33:26,460
At this point. 
It was like I am just going to 

882
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:29,790
big him up so much for for doing
some writing at home, because 

883
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,670
that's quite rare. 
And like you said and it's never

884
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,740
an expert, I don't have an 
expectation that they do that, 

885
00:33:33,790 --> 00:33:35,260
but when they do, it's a bonus. 
So pretty. 

886
00:33:35,270 --> 00:33:36,400
Cool. 
OK, this is really interesting 

887
00:33:36,410 --> 00:33:40,640
because I find that I find 
writing for pleasure something 

888
00:33:40,650 --> 00:33:42,560
that we've kind of lost in the 
curriculum. 

889
00:33:42,650 --> 00:33:44,350
We always talk about reading for
pleasure. 

890
00:33:44,390 --> 00:33:45,980
We always talk about reading for
the sake of it. 

891
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:47,240
Read something you're interested
in. 

892
00:33:47,290 --> 00:33:49,750
We don't sit there and judge how
well they read words every 

893
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,010
single time. 
You just read something for 

894
00:33:51,020 --> 00:33:51,770
pleasure. 
Yeah. 

895
00:33:51,820 --> 00:33:53,990
I think because we've lost 
writing for pleasure in the 

896
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,460
curriculum. 
I, you know, I'm not saying I do

897
00:33:57,470 --> 00:33:59,930
this, but I think best practise 
would to be to encourage it at 

898
00:33:59,940 --> 00:34:02,850
home a bit more. 
So I I would think that it not 

899
00:34:02,860 --> 00:34:06,690
not as often as we're saying in 
terms of reading, but I think 

900
00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:10,270
there's room for us to say to 
parents, let them write, just 

901
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,409
let them write. 
Let them decide what they're 

902
00:34:12,420 --> 00:34:13,900
going to write about. 
Because in school it's very 

903
00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:15,610
structured. 
We're doing a newspaper report 

904
00:34:15,620 --> 00:34:17,250
for these three weeks, then 
we're doing a character 

905
00:34:17,260 --> 00:34:18,389
description for these three 
weeks. 

906
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,280
We might not do a play. 
Yeah, we might do it once a 

907
00:34:21,290 --> 00:34:21,969
year. 
Yeah. 

908
00:34:21,980 --> 00:34:23,159
Yeah, right. 
They might not do it in a whole 

909
00:34:23,170 --> 00:34:24,580
year across across the. 
Curriculum. 

910
00:34:24,630 --> 00:34:26,880
And that might be the thing. 
And that's thing they enjoy. 

911
00:34:26,929 --> 00:34:30,219
So, you know, we I've always go 
back to this moment with writing

912
00:34:30,270 --> 00:34:32,800
because it was exactly what I'd 
want them to do at home. 

913
00:34:32,909 --> 00:34:36,280
And what I don't want to happen 
at home with writing is parents 

914
00:34:36,290 --> 00:34:39,659
to think that they have to sit 
there and correct, you know, the

915
00:34:39,670 --> 00:34:42,280
use of a conjunction or commas 
in the wrong place because 

916
00:34:42,290 --> 00:34:44,760
that's hard to do, that's hard 
to teach well. 

917
00:34:44,770 --> 00:34:46,440
And I want to take that away 
from parents at home. 

918
00:34:46,489 --> 00:34:48,400
Reading's different. 
We, you know, we expect the 

919
00:34:48,409 --> 00:34:49,540
level of reading and you can 
read. 

920
00:34:49,550 --> 00:34:51,020
It you just have they, I mean, 
would you help? 

921
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:52,800
Them read the words were 
straightforward exactly. 

922
00:34:52,810 --> 00:34:54,659
And and then that's much more 
easy to control. 

923
00:34:54,670 --> 00:34:56,679
Yeah, writing it can. 
There can be some 

924
00:34:56,690 --> 00:34:58,400
contradictions. 
We're gonna talk about a lot in 

925
00:34:58,410 --> 00:34:59,660
matter. 
I was about to say this links 

926
00:34:59,670 --> 00:35:00,930
really well. 
Yeah, so we'll move on. 

927
00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:02,050
We'll move on to maths in a 
second. 

928
00:35:02,060 --> 00:35:05,380
But I guess my overall point 
here is encouraging writing for 

929
00:35:05,390 --> 00:35:08,990
the sake of writing and 
celebrating it no matter what 

930
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,840
they get down in the paper to 
aren't honestly, in this 

931
00:35:11,890 --> 00:35:13,730
instance don't care about 
capital letters, don't care 

932
00:35:13,740 --> 00:35:16,200
about full stops. 
But we can, we can mention them 

933
00:35:16,210 --> 00:35:18,170
if it's awful and we know it's a
target for the children. 

934
00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:22,680
Yeah, but being creative, like I
think writing such an important 

935
00:35:22,690 --> 00:35:25,000
part for children to develop 
that, that we lose in the 

936
00:35:25,010 --> 00:35:28,840
curriculum. 
I think there is scope to say to

937
00:35:28,850 --> 00:35:32,700
children and parents at home, 
let them just be creative 

938
00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:34,760
because whenever a child does 
that, I'm over the moon. 

939
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:36,750
So actually, doesn't that show 
that it's a really good? 

940
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,560
Thing. 
Do you value handwritten stuff 

941
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:41,540
differently to type type stuff? 
I think of interest. 

942
00:35:42,940 --> 00:35:45,680
Do I value handwritten stuff 
more? 

943
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:49,160
But I think I'm outdated and 
probably wrong, so I I don't 

944
00:35:49,170 --> 00:35:51,840
think that's correct. 
And I wouldn't necessarily want 

945
00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:55,170
to predicate that to my 
children, but I think within a 

946
00:35:55,180 --> 00:35:57,480
few years that went well. 
Be an outdated thing. 

947
00:35:57,550 --> 00:36:00,160
A lot of people will say, you 
know, fine, motor skills, fine, 

948
00:36:00,210 --> 00:36:04,010
early development, fine. 
But if they've got that, is it 

949
00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:06,270
better that they Start learning 
how to type quickly and 

950
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,260
accurately? 
Probably. 

951
00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:09,680
Probably. 
But yeah, I know, but are we 

952
00:36:09,690 --> 00:36:12,520
just old already? 
Like to kids these days, even 

953
00:36:12,530 --> 00:36:15,170
having a PC, like people are 
just have iPads and phones and 

954
00:36:15,180 --> 00:36:17,190
things, so it's very different 
and already they're typing with 

955
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,500
thumbs. 
It's just completely different 

956
00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:19,820
experience. 
I've had it before, apparently, 

957
00:36:19,830 --> 00:36:22,380
where children now, when they go
to school, they go into an IT 

958
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:23,640
suite, They're touching the 
monitor. 

959
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:26,270
They think it's nice. 
Yeah, because it's like the 

960
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,040
easiest access thing, isn't it? 
A tablet? 

961
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:29,990
Yeah, I don't know. 
So yeah, writing. 

962
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,620
I'd say much lower than reading,
but I wouldn't. 

963
00:36:33,770 --> 00:36:36,710
Project so same as me, like you 
don't have an expectation they 

964
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:39,850
do X amount of writing at. 
Home, but I would facilitate and

965
00:36:39,860 --> 00:36:41,970
encourage it. 
As much as well, so, so far 

966
00:36:41,980 --> 00:36:44,460
then, all we're saying is we 
expect reading at home. 

967
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:46,340
So let's think about maths, 
because you mentioned you made a

968
00:36:46,350 --> 00:36:48,970
really good point about how 
writing is very nuanced and 

969
00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:52,290
there's a lot of really tricky 
rules of writing that. 

970
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,310
I'm not saying parents don't 
know these things, but 

971
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,520
generally, even as a teacher it 
takes quite a few years to 

972
00:36:56,530 --> 00:36:59,130
actually fully grasp the writing
curriculum because it's so 

973
00:36:59,140 --> 00:37:02,770
ridiculously complex. 
Maths is kind of similar and 

974
00:37:02,780 --> 00:37:05,740
we've talked before about mass 
and new mass and I've spoke to 

975
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:08,000
loads of parents who say ohh, we
didn't learn it like this back 

976
00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:11,120
in my day and there there does 
kind of risk factor with that 

977
00:37:11,130 --> 00:37:15,070
doesn't there That if if we have
a maybe a huge expectations that

978
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,660
you need to do all this maths at
home like almost the whole 

979
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:19,330
curriculum. 
We give you this homework portal

980
00:37:19,340 --> 00:37:20,500
maybe that does the whole 
curriculum. 

981
00:37:20,510 --> 00:37:23,680
We set you homework every week 
that children are maybe going to

982
00:37:23,690 --> 00:37:25,660
develop misconceptions or get 
confused because their parents 

983
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:28,370
are saying no don't do that way.
Your teacher said just move the 

984
00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:30,760
decimal point you know what I 
mean stuff like that. 

985
00:37:30,770 --> 00:37:35,520
So what's your opinion on doing 
maths at home and what your 

986
00:37:35,530 --> 00:37:37,870
expectation is, I guess for 
parents doing maths at home with

987
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,310
their children. 
Yeah maybe it's because like you

988
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,640
said we're control freaks a 
little bit in terms of maths and

989
00:37:43,650 --> 00:37:46,770
we know maths so well. 
I would genuinely draw the line 

990
00:37:46,780 --> 00:37:50,110
at wrote facts. 
I I would, I would be more than 

991
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,390
happy if just at home all 
they're doing is if they're 

992
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,160
early enough, learning their 
number one to 10. 

993
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,970
Yeah. 
Learning the number 1 to 20 

994
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,650
within 20, like 8 plus what is 
13 Yeah that kind of stuff. 

995
00:38:01,660 --> 00:38:03,190
So valuable and there's only one
answer. 

996
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,370
So just learning that, 
practising that, practising that

997
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,430
times tables of course division 
facts the other way. 

998
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,530
So you know, I've never, not 
never, but very rarely have I 

999
00:38:13,540 --> 00:38:18,210
met a child by year four, let's 
say, who has completely mastered

1000
00:38:18,220 --> 00:38:21,090
all of those, wrote facts 
quickly and accurately to the 

1001
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:23,090
point where they don't really 
need to get quicker or more 

1002
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:25,310
accurate. 
Yeah, So because that's the 

1003
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,350
case, I would say to any parent 
out there who wants to do stuff 

1004
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,670
with maths at home, until your 
child has completely mastered 

1005
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,550
that, leave the rest to school. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, do those 

1006
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,790
things. 
I yeah, I agree. 

1007
00:38:35,860 --> 00:38:37,660
We have a lot of similar 
opinions, obviously, because 

1008
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:40,170
we've created a whole shooting 
company where we help. 

1009
00:38:40,180 --> 00:38:42,500
We help parents at home do these
things and because we've then 

1010
00:38:42,510 --> 00:38:45,110
thought, what are the main 
things that these guys can be 

1011
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,940
doing at home 1st? 
And we call it our foundation 

1012
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:47,650
skills right. 
Yeah. 

1013
00:38:47,660 --> 00:38:49,340
There's one more though. 
There's one on add to this. 

1014
00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:50,620
There's one thing from the 
curriculum. 

1015
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:52,820
You probably guess what it is by
the time I finish time. 

1016
00:38:53,260 --> 00:38:56,770
Yeah. 
Time one I just time it's. 

1017
00:38:56,780 --> 00:38:58,480
There's no link, right? 
There's no links. 

1018
00:38:58,550 --> 00:39:00,320
I can't find the link still. 
I just. 

1019
00:39:00,330 --> 00:39:02,040
I can't teach it. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1020
00:39:02,050 --> 00:39:02,860
It's not enough. 
Time. 

1021
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:05,260
But don't you find, Like with a 
lot of the curriculum, there are

1022
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:08,720
links like you know if you've 
been learning column addition, 

1023
00:39:08,910 --> 00:39:11,040
you know you can link it to 
something else if you've been 

1024
00:39:11,050 --> 00:39:12,540
learning, rounding to the 
nearest 10. 

1025
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,390
Yeah. 
The place value is an intrinsic 

1026
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,910
link in. 
It links to place value. 

1027
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,590
Yeah. 
Time is base 12. 

1028
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,310
Yeah. 
It's, it's nothing to do with 

1029
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,030
anything. 
Yeah. 

1030
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,240
And then a one is five. 
It'd be like, literally as it 

1031
00:39:23,250 --> 00:39:26,550
is, as random to children as 
doing in the middle of after 

1032
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,940
five years of curriculum green 
light going to lesson binary. 

1033
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:30,270
Yeah, exactly. 
Is that right? 

1034
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:30,660
Sorry. 
What? 

1035
00:39:30,670 --> 00:39:32,470
What's this? 
It's just a whole, you know, you

1036
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,490
been learning this one place 
value system and you're still 

1037
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:36,050
struggling with that? 
Yeah, here's another one. 

1038
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:39,220
So yeah, time is tricky and this
is something that I probably 

1039
00:39:39,230 --> 00:39:40,730
sound really old, but it's 
definitely true. 

1040
00:39:40,740 --> 00:39:44,360
It's definitely true that over 
time, children have become less 

1041
00:39:44,370 --> 00:39:47,290
and less and less confident with
reading a clock face. 

1042
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:48,890
Yeah, digital time is not so 
bad. 

1043
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:51,030
Do you know why reading an 
analogue analogue clock? 

1044
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,010
You know why we don't use them? 
As you don't see it. 

1045
00:39:53,020 --> 00:39:54,070
Yeah, they don't see it. 
Yeah. 

1046
00:39:54,110 --> 00:39:57,190
And it's like almost a rarity, 
my kids, if I show them an 

1047
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,530
analogue clock in school, 
because we always have one in 

1048
00:39:59,540 --> 00:40:01,950
the classroom. 
But I've shown on the board and 

1049
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,620
they're like, oh, I've got one 
of them in my kitchen, like, 

1050
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:06,260
like, it's like a little shiny 
toy. 

1051
00:40:06,270 --> 00:40:08,580
Yeah, it's like asking like an 
old Roman numeral thing. 

1052
00:40:08,590 --> 00:40:09,860
Ohh, I've seen one of those 
types. 

1053
00:40:09,870 --> 00:40:12,000
Before. 
But I would argue that again, 

1054
00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:14,670
I'm thinking of my year go ahead
because I spent most of my 

1055
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,660
career in year four. 
I would. 

1056
00:40:16,730 --> 00:40:19,240
I'm gonna say 10% of kids can 
read a clock. 

1057
00:40:19,410 --> 00:40:21,620
Yeah, 10, that's like properly. 
Yeah. 

1058
00:40:21,630 --> 00:40:22,940
Even in year six. 
Yeah. 

1059
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:25,010
It hasn't he. 
It's not even answer for those 

1060
00:40:25,020 --> 00:40:27,060
that aren't teaching and the 
national curriculum the last 

1061
00:40:27,070 --> 00:40:30,060
time that they're supposed to 
have lessons on time because 

1062
00:40:30,170 --> 00:40:32,920
supposedly mastered by this 
point easier for is not even in 

1063
00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:35,120
the curriculum after that. 
But generally teachers will 

1064
00:40:35,130 --> 00:40:37,860
teach it in year five and in 
year six as well, because you'll

1065
00:40:37,870 --> 00:40:40,670
have timetables and stuff where 
they assume you can tell time 

1066
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,840
because they do some hard 
problems and they just can't. 

1067
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,320
The amount of you know over the 
years, the Essex I've taught 

1068
00:40:45,330 --> 00:40:47,240
that have no idea how to read a.
Clock. 

1069
00:40:47,250 --> 00:40:48,840
So I I would, I would definitely
make that. 

1070
00:40:48,850 --> 00:40:52,360
I would also, I would say to 
parents who want to know what 

1071
00:40:52,370 --> 00:40:55,260
they can do at school as a 
teacher, where I think it would 

1072
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:57,550
be fantastic to do maths at 
school and I would again 

1073
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,400
encourage this is anything where
it's in context. 

1074
00:41:00,410 --> 00:41:02,400
News and say that, yeah, it's. 
True measurement stuff, Yeah. 

1075
00:41:02,410 --> 00:41:04,100
Anything. 
So, so if you're, you know, 

1076
00:41:04,450 --> 00:41:06,080
you're using a measuring jug, 
right? 

1077
00:41:06,090 --> 00:41:09,450
And it's 400 grammes to 500 
grammes and you need to measure 

1078
00:41:09,460 --> 00:41:12,720
450, fantastic opportunity to 
talk about how 50 is half of 

1079
00:41:12,730 --> 00:41:15,660
100, where would that be and 
then say well where would 400 

1080
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:17,120
and. 75 BE Yeah. 
When does it become a 

1081
00:41:17,130 --> 00:41:18,170
kilogramme? 
Yeah. 

1082
00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:19,440
That they don't know. 
Do that, Yeah. 

1083
00:41:19,450 --> 00:41:21,190
So. 
But those things, I've found 

1084
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,820
there is a direct correlation 
between how hard something is to

1085
00:41:23,830 --> 00:41:25,510
teach and how embedded in 
context it is. 

1086
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,360
Yeah. 
So in terms of time, in terms of

1087
00:41:27,370 --> 00:41:30,160
measurement, those things are 
really hard to teach in a 

1088
00:41:30,170 --> 00:41:32,920
discrete lesson unless you give 
it a lot of time and constantly 

1089
00:41:32,930 --> 00:41:36,190
revisit it. 
Whereas if you just if you just 

1090
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,600
do a lesson on converting metres
to centimetres and you just say 

1091
00:41:38,610 --> 00:41:41,960
what times 100 / 100, they'll be
able to do it in that lesson, a 

1092
00:41:41,970 --> 00:41:45,510
week later they will complete. 
Even if you go down the amount 

1093
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,110
of times I've really tried hard 
to teach like Millie Senti Desi 

1094
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,680
and like and I tried to yeah, 
let's at least so you can at 

1095
00:41:53,690 --> 00:41:55,230
least remember something to do 
with 10 or 100. 

1096
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,750
Even if they remember 100, 
they'll just get. 

1097
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,610
The wrong way round. 
I mean, just get OK, divide 3 

1098
00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:05,380
centimetres IS300 metres like 
nought .3 or something like 

1099
00:42:05,390 --> 00:42:06,740
that, right? 
No, it's in terms of like they 

1100
00:42:06,750 --> 00:42:09,280
do the wrong way round. 
So it's two millimetres rather 

1101
00:42:09,290 --> 00:42:13,030
than times by 10 by. 10 They'll 
say 3 centimetres IS300 metres, 

1102
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,040
Yeah. 
And they're not really, but that

1103
00:42:15,050 --> 00:42:16,930
because there's no context 
involved, they don't know 

1104
00:42:16,940 --> 00:42:18,940
because they're not measuring, 
you know, we have to try and 

1105
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:21,100
provide them with that. 
But yeah, but really in terms of

1106
00:42:21,110 --> 00:42:23,300
maths at home, the most powerful
thing is do your rote learning 

1107
00:42:23,310 --> 00:42:24,940
and do anything in context. 
Yeah. 

1108
00:42:24,990 --> 00:42:27,000
When it comes to problem solve, 
I wanna talk about new mass and 

1109
00:42:27,010 --> 00:42:30,120
old mass quickly because we have
delivered as mathletes in our 

1110
00:42:30,130 --> 00:42:31,640
school. 
Whenever we do like an open 

1111
00:42:31,650 --> 00:42:34,000
evening, we'll open up to 
parents and we'll do a maths 

1112
00:42:34,010 --> 00:42:36,490
presentation, right. 
And we've done it a few times to

1113
00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:37,620
a few different rooms of 
parents. 

1114
00:42:37,690 --> 00:42:40,220
And basically what we do is 
what's our aim with the 

1115
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:43,050
curriculum what would we expect 
from home which is in a good 

1116
00:42:43,060 --> 00:42:45,100
what we're talking about right 
now and and what we set for 

1117
00:42:45,110 --> 00:42:46,590
homework in our school. 
It's very simple. 

1118
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,390
It's just write stuff homework. 
That's all we expect from the 

1119
00:42:49,450 --> 00:42:53,120
from from people but we want to 
start introducing projects and 

1120
00:42:53,130 --> 00:42:55,650
stuff like that. 
Again linked to what we've just 

1121
00:42:55,660 --> 00:42:59,010
said in context not something 
really there's a question of how

1122
00:42:59,020 --> 00:43:01,530
to do it. 
Follow a recipe. 

1123
00:43:01,580 --> 00:43:04,450
OK there's gonna be old and new 
maths there but to a lot of 

1124
00:43:04,460 --> 00:43:06,600
parents they look at the way we 
teach maths maybe with 

1125
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:09,830
manipulatives out in front of us
with base 10 here's a 10 block, 

1126
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,430
100 block. 
The idea of exchanging to 

1127
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,010
parents, they just cross out and
put a one. 

1128
00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:16,840
And and even when I was in 
school, they never really 

1129
00:43:16,850 --> 00:43:19,400
understood that that one was 
worth 10. 

1130
00:43:19,470 --> 00:43:22,000
Yeah, because I was exchanging 
A10 for 10 ones and all that 

1131
00:43:22,010 --> 00:43:24,320
kind of stuff. 
I just managed with someone who 

1132
00:43:24,330 --> 00:43:26,680
grasped that and got it. 
There are a lot of children in 

1133
00:43:26,690 --> 00:43:27,860
class who didn't grasp it and 
get it. 

1134
00:43:27,870 --> 00:43:29,960
There was no context again and 
they kind of got confused. 

1135
00:43:29,970 --> 00:43:31,980
So there's a reason why we do 
stuff, but there is definitely a

1136
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:35,240
line still where parents look at
it and we had a talk to a parent

1137
00:43:35,250 --> 00:43:38,190
after one of these meetings and 
they were I wouldn't do it like 

1138
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,070
that bit of waste of time in it 
after I'd just given 1/2 an hour

1139
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,030
talk about why we do it. 
And you know it is a bit 

1140
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,360
undermining. 
But my underlying thought there 

1141
00:43:46,370 --> 00:43:49,770
was there is a bit of a barrier 
here and I don't think they 

1142
00:43:49,780 --> 00:43:52,340
necessarily trying to be rude. 
They're just saying that's why 

1143
00:43:52,350 --> 00:43:54,300
basing your time doing that, 
like I can teach them that in 

1144
00:43:54,310 --> 00:43:54,670
two. 
Minutes. 

1145
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,840
Yeah. 
And and like you said I won't go

1146
00:43:56,850 --> 00:43:59,360
into it right now because we 
talk about this for an hour but 

1147
00:43:59,370 --> 00:44:05,570
not it's a podcast is it is with
manipulatives and using hands on

1148
00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:08,450
things. 
It just means that more children

1149
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,950
get the underlying concept 
behind why something works in 

1150
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,470
maths and it and it does. 
It's just the problem is it's a 

1151
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,610
long term thing isn't it? 
Right. 

1152
00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:17,930
Because I know that by the time 
I got to secondary school maybe 

1153
00:44:17,940 --> 00:44:19,530
in year 10, year 11, year 12, 
whatever. 

1154
00:44:19,620 --> 00:44:23,930
There were some things where me 
relying on more my wrote not my 

1155
00:44:23,940 --> 00:44:26,690
memorization of facts and things
have no real understanding of 

1156
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:29,200
them started to fall apart. 
And if I just properly 

1157
00:44:29,210 --> 00:44:31,500
understood the concepts and 
their most simple level and 

1158
00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:33,390
built up from that way. 
I probably would have found a 

1159
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,010
lot of the harder have easier 
later on. 

1160
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,290
And I think parents struggle to 
understand that sometimes 

1161
00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,870
teachers do the amount of times 
I see on Facebook or whatever. 

1162
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,470
Well why we do this bloody 
master. 

1163
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,170
Yeah. 
Teachers say get rid of this I I

1164
00:44:43,180 --> 00:44:45,670
just cross out the button thing 
here tell them this rule it's 

1165
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,780
called the butterfly method. 
And I'm like yeah but that 

1166
00:44:47,790 --> 00:44:50,170
doesn't mean anything. 
They'll get the answer right. 

1167
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,260
But then in two years time when 
they have to kind of up level 

1168
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:55,530
this skill to something way 
harder conceptually that just 

1169
00:44:55,540 --> 00:44:58,060
builds on that concept they have
no idea how to do it. 

1170
00:44:58,140 --> 00:45:00,010
Whereas the kids that have been 
built up conceptually will be 

1171
00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:01,810
like, oh, it's like that thing I
get. 

1172
00:45:01,820 --> 00:45:03,800
That I'm going to give the 
perfect example quick before we 

1173
00:45:03,810 --> 00:45:05,290
move on. 
I think we've established what 

1174
00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:07,400
we want from maths. 
The perfect example is within 

1175
00:45:07,410 --> 00:45:10,820
the year 4 we do that exact 
process where before Christmas 

1176
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:13,120
I'll teach children how to 
multiply and divide by 10 and 

1177
00:45:13,130 --> 00:45:15,280
100. 
Yeah only working with whole 

1178
00:45:15,290 --> 00:45:18,720
numbers, so it will be a whole 
number multiplied by 10 or 100. 

1179
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:23,000
Very simple because you just add
a zero, you add 2 zeros and and 

1180
00:45:23,010 --> 00:45:24,380
straight away we ban that 
language. 

1181
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:26,540
We don't say that language and 
we make a big thing about it. 

1182
00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:29,110
Even though the children could 
very easily get through those 

1183
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,740
lessons. 
Just putting 00 done. 

1184
00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:33,980
And then when you divide by 100,
there's always at least two 

1185
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:35,800
placeholders at the end. 
Yeah, so we never go into 

1186
00:45:35,810 --> 00:45:38,740
decimals. 
It might be 1300 / 100. 

1187
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:40,740
They know. 
OK, take off the two zeros. 

1188
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:42,900
We ban that. 
Those children could get through

1189
00:45:42,910 --> 00:45:45,920
that lesson before Christmas, 
that whole week of lessons, 

1190
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:48,340
doing the quick way that maybe 
they'd get tougher. 

1191
00:45:48,350 --> 00:45:49,940
And doing like 20 minutes. 
Exactly. 

1192
00:45:49,950 --> 00:45:51,420
Easy. 
Done green. 

1193
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:52,180
Wow. 
Perfect. 

1194
00:45:52,190 --> 00:45:55,300
My kids are really cool. 
However, instead, what we teach 

1195
00:45:55,310 --> 00:45:57,430
in that point is look place 
value chart. 

1196
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:58,700
We've learned about the place 
value chart. 

1197
00:45:58,710 --> 00:46:01,000
Let's get them out. 
Let's build this number straight

1198
00:46:01,010 --> 00:46:01,930
away. 
Parents will be thinking. 

1199
00:46:01,940 --> 00:46:04,160
What a waste of just take off 
this image you sent home for 

1200
00:46:04,170 --> 00:46:06,110
homework exactly. 
They just go across zeros off. 

1201
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:06,730
You got it? 
Yeah. 

1202
00:46:06,740 --> 00:46:07,690
OK. 
No, don't worry. 

1203
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,370
Because here we're gonna build 
the number we know place value. 

1204
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:12,290
We're gonna make links to when 
we've made numbers before. 

1205
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:14,070
Yeah. 
OK, now we're gonna divide by 

1206
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,190
10. 
What do you notice about 12:50? 

1207
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,530
One is 10 times less than 10, 
and 10 is 10 times less than 

1208
00:46:20,540 --> 00:46:21,980
100. 
And we talk about pay, so we 

1209
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:23,670
divide by 10. 
We're going to shift what was in

1210
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,130
the 10s column to the ones. 
They're cool. 

1211
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,030
And I say to the kids, if you 
notice the trick, yeah, we can 

1212
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,610
just get rid of the zeros. 
You're right, we can. 

1213
00:46:32,620 --> 00:46:34,270
And that works for these 
questions. 

1214
00:46:34,310 --> 00:46:36,820
But you wait till after 
Christmas, we're gonna do it and

1215
00:46:36,830 --> 00:46:38,980
you'll see why. 
And they're like, ohh, OK, yeah.

1216
00:46:38,990 --> 00:46:42,320
Comes to Christmas, they build 
the number, divide it by 10. 

1217
00:46:42,410 --> 00:46:44,540
And all I need to teach them at 
that point is there's such thing

1218
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:46,700
as a decimal place between whole
numbers and part numbers. 

1219
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:47,520
Yeah. 
And they get it. 

1220
00:46:47,570 --> 00:46:50,000
Yeah. 
And otherwise they'll get 39 / 

1221
00:46:50,010 --> 00:46:53,410
10 and they'll say 3 because 
they think the 9 just take the 

1222
00:46:53,420 --> 00:46:57,140
#39 and they'll just stay the 
same number because they just 

1223
00:46:57,150 --> 00:46:58,450
don't possibly know what could 
happen. 

1224
00:46:58,460 --> 00:46:59,930
Or they'll think that the 
question is wrong. 

1225
00:46:59,940 --> 00:47:01,280
With time, they tend to put zero
on it. 

1226
00:47:01,290 --> 00:47:02,460
Yeah, you're. 
Right. 

1227
00:47:02,470 --> 00:47:03,640
That's a perfect. 
Example. 

1228
00:47:03,650 --> 00:47:06,790
So what would you expect at 
home? 

1229
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,750
What they need to do? 
Number facts number say that 

1230
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,210
includes number ones to 10. 
Numbers are 20 just general 

1231
00:47:12,220 --> 00:47:14,420
number facts in general, 
including times tables. 

1232
00:47:14,540 --> 00:47:16,570
So like really like wrote. 
Like we've mentioned wrote a 

1233
00:47:16,580 --> 00:47:17,910
lot. 
By the way, if you're not into 

1234
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,120
schools and don't use the word 
wrote, it literally just means 

1235
00:47:20,130 --> 00:47:21,830
just memorization, just facts 
that you memorised as. 

1236
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,630
It you just practise over and 
over again. 

1237
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,470
Not a process, just the thing, 
yeah, nothing to do. 

1238
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,190
Concepts, just learn that fact. 
Cool. 

1239
00:47:28,260 --> 00:47:30,550
So before we go on to the rest 
of the curriculum, very quickly,

1240
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,560
again, talking to people at 
home, very interested if you're 

1241
00:47:32,570 --> 00:47:33,770
a teacher and if you're a 
parent. 

1242
00:47:33,780 --> 00:47:36,090
In this situation, we're 
actually just entered both, so 

1243
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:38,440
we're kind of then as we go. 
We won't have a parents evening 

1244
00:47:38,450 --> 00:47:39,700
for a while, though. 
I want to tell my parents 

1245
00:47:39,710 --> 00:47:40,720
evening. 
We can do a mock 1. 

1246
00:47:40,770 --> 00:47:42,640
Yeah, yeah. 
So I think reading, writing, 

1247
00:47:42,650 --> 00:47:45,250
maths, that kind of that does 
dominate parents evening 

1248
00:47:45,260 --> 00:47:47,090
discussions, whether you're a 
teacher or parent, you know 

1249
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:48,330
that's going to dominate the 
discussion. 

1250
00:47:48,340 --> 00:47:49,870
So let's just take a pause to 
talk about parents. 

1251
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,480
You can very quickly, OK, What 
what do you think again as a 

1252
00:47:53,490 --> 00:47:56,160
teacher, what would you be 
saying to parents during parents

1253
00:47:56,170 --> 00:47:57,860
evening? 
What would you prioritise? 

1254
00:47:57,950 --> 00:48:00,400
What do you think is useful? 
Because it's that kind of only 

1255
00:48:00,410 --> 00:48:03,080
chance we get really to speak 
about how their child's getting 

1256
00:48:03,090 --> 00:48:05,060
on and what they can do at home.
So. 

1257
00:48:05,070 --> 00:48:07,320
So how would you approach this? 
Because you told me what you'd 

1258
00:48:07,330 --> 00:48:08,590
expect from a child. 
Hmm. 

1259
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:11,360
So you sit down at parents 
evening with with a child and 

1260
00:48:11,370 --> 00:48:13,520
you've got all this feedback. 
What would you do then? 

1261
00:48:13,530 --> 00:48:14,700
Would you go straight in and say
do this? 

1262
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:15,900
Do you know what goes through my
head? 

1263
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:18,290
And it's really simple and 
sometimes I'm I'm awkwardly sat 

1264
00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:19,880
there and parents evening 
thinking, I don't know what to 

1265
00:48:19,890 --> 00:48:22,860
say to you because all that's 
going from my head really is, 

1266
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:25,320
are they doing all the things we
just mentioned? 

1267
00:48:25,630 --> 00:48:27,200
Do they know their times tables 
well? 

1268
00:48:27,330 --> 00:48:31,380
Can they read Well if they can 
I'm and they're doing quite well

1269
00:48:31,390 --> 00:48:33,970
at school I'm usually sort of 
like yeah they're doing really 

1270
00:48:33,980 --> 00:48:37,740
well see you next time I don't 
know what to say sometimes and I

1271
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:40,650
know it's like there's very 
commonplace to then start 

1272
00:48:40,660 --> 00:48:43,210
waffling on about random 
objectives that they can do in 

1273
00:48:43,220 --> 00:48:45,280
school and I find that really 
boring. 

1274
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,350
I don't want to sit there and 
tell them ohh, I've noticed that

1275
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,460
writing recently been using 
loads of really good 

1276
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:51,620
conjunctions. 
They've been using our new 

1277
00:48:51,630 --> 00:48:53,830
conjunctions. 
Can you just and we talked to 

1278
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,390
them as if they're going to go 
home now and like work on can 

1279
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,190
you start trying to show them 
how to use due to the fact that 

1280
00:48:59,460 --> 00:49:01,980
and in their in their writing I 
want to use that junction a bit 

1281
00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:03,780
more and while you're there just
prepositional phrases. 

1282
00:49:03,790 --> 00:49:06,020
We've been working on those 
didn't really get it very well. 

1283
00:49:06,030 --> 00:49:08,380
So it's like I have what? 
Come on. 

1284
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:10,880
It's not many parents really. 
But yeah, write that down. 

1285
00:49:10,890 --> 00:49:12,220
Do prepositional phrases 
tonight. 

1286
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:14,810
I think a good parents evening 
links very closely to what we've

1287
00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:16,280
been saying. 
That's what makes it a good 

1288
00:49:16,290 --> 00:49:17,960
parents evening. 
Yeah, and you miss one thing 

1289
00:49:17,970 --> 00:49:19,300
off. 
And I know you do this, but 

1290
00:49:19,370 --> 00:49:22,440
honestly I start every parents 
evening with and this is again 

1291
00:49:22,450 --> 00:49:23,720
advice. 
We got there at school. 

1292
00:49:23,970 --> 00:49:25,910
Yeah, literally. 
And but the first thing I say to

1293
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,040
her parent is, do you have any 
questions for me? 

1294
00:49:28,090 --> 00:49:30,840
Because we only get 10 minutes. 
And if they've got a need or a 

1295
00:49:30,850 --> 00:49:33,340
desire or a question, that's 
more important than me assuming 

1296
00:49:33,350 --> 00:49:35,420
they need to wanna hear about a 
prepositional phrase. 

1297
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:37,250
Yeah, and you know what? 
It normally isn't something to 

1298
00:49:37,260 --> 00:49:40,220
do with NASA, to be honest with.
You might be, you know, social 

1299
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:41,490
problem. 
It might be Ohh. 

1300
00:49:41,500 --> 00:49:43,640
You know, he mentioned he he 
found this tricky. 

1301
00:49:43,690 --> 00:49:45,530
Then you can talk about that 
exact thing and what you're 

1302
00:49:45,540 --> 00:49:46,920
doing. 
About it I generally my my sort 

1303
00:49:46,930 --> 00:49:50,560
of my procedure is really if 
it's like a flow chart, flow 

1304
00:49:50,570 --> 00:49:53,410
chart, are they are they average
or above average in maths and 

1305
00:49:53,420 --> 00:49:54,860
English? 
If they are I'll talk about over

1306
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:56,380
10 seconds. 
Yeah, doing really well 

1307
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:57,660
anything. 
Want me to do anything nice at 

1308
00:49:57,670 --> 00:49:59,740
home, no cook, carry on doing 
reading. 

1309
00:49:59,750 --> 00:50:01,660
It's great, they're doing really
well and then I'll just go 

1310
00:50:01,670 --> 00:50:04,960
straight to social stuff and and
if they if they are behind in 

1311
00:50:04,970 --> 00:50:07,760
something, that's when I'll then
open up that discussion and say 

1312
00:50:07,770 --> 00:50:10,260
look greater maths, you know, 
doing really well, but. 

1313
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,760
This is what we're. 
Doing now, reading. 

1314
00:50:11,770 --> 00:50:13,570
This is what we're doing. 
This is what we're doing for 

1315
00:50:13,580 --> 00:50:15,810
reading. 
But this is what you could do at

1316
00:50:15,820 --> 00:50:17,100
home to help. 
Because they're not where they 

1317
00:50:17,110 --> 00:50:17,760
should be. 
Yeah. 

1318
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,640
And then we'll have that 
discussion about how I can 

1319
00:50:19,650 --> 00:50:21,170
support. 
Them a very interesting and very

1320
00:50:21,180 --> 00:50:23,500
quickly before we move on, on 
parents evening, do you start 

1321
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:26,460
with academic or social? 
I usually start with social, OK.

1322
00:50:26,510 --> 00:50:31,220
I usually start with the same 
thing every time I say, first of

1323
00:50:31,230 --> 00:50:33,680
all, before I start to waffling 
on about so and so about the 

1324
00:50:33,690 --> 00:50:35,220
pandemics. 
Are they happy? 

1325
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,580
How have they been since we last
spoke? 

1326
00:50:37,710 --> 00:50:40,430
And and that usually and that 
allows them to open up about 

1327
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,330
anything. 
I think that's much more useful,

1328
00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:44,490
personally, and I hope parents 
find as well. 

1329
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:45,700
Cool. 
Just a very quick pit stop 

1330
00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:47,250
there. 
But parents evening, let's move 

1331
00:50:47,260 --> 00:50:49,570
on then to other subjects and 
come we're gonna break up a 

1332
00:50:49,580 --> 00:50:50,740
little bit. 
Yeah. 

1333
00:50:50,780 --> 00:50:54,610
But again we're being very clear
here what we think children 

1334
00:50:54,660 --> 00:50:58,030
should do at home. 
So the big one. 

1335
00:50:58,100 --> 00:50:59,490
Yeah. 
Physical education. 

1336
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,970
We know as a school and in terms
of as a school teacher and all 

1337
00:51:03,980 --> 00:51:06,070
people working in a school that 
it's. 

1338
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,930
It can be really tricky to get 
your quota of what we need to do

1339
00:51:09,010 --> 00:51:10,060
physical education. 
Yeah. 

1340
00:51:10,070 --> 00:51:11,180
Yeah. 
We we talked to a million times 

1341
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:14,160
about the timetable go look at 
the old, old episodes and 

1342
00:51:14,170 --> 00:51:17,310
lessons conform lessons again 
And so you know what would you 

1343
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,300
be wanting a child to do in 
terms of physical education at 

1344
00:51:19,310 --> 00:51:22,260
home and in terms of just being 
active would would you have a 

1345
00:51:22,270 --> 00:51:24,480
minimum expectation or do you 
think that's not part of your. 

1346
00:51:24,490 --> 00:51:25,420
Job right? 
Yeah. 

1347
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:28,100
I was about to say, even though 
I think it's really important, 

1348
00:51:28,110 --> 00:51:29,980
personally, I find it a little 
bit condescending. 

1349
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:32,010
Sure. 
I don't know why, because 

1350
00:51:32,020 --> 00:51:33,190
there's no really, it's not 
really. 

1351
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,240
This is the whole. 
Point isn't it? 

1352
00:51:34,250 --> 00:51:37,250
Of the other things, it's like, 
what is our role because we 

1353
00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:39,790
don't wanna be hypocrites. 
Maybe it's because I think this 

1354
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,650
is is because reading and 
writing maths, it's all drilled 

1355
00:51:42,660 --> 00:51:44,470
in, they get they're getting 
tested on this and it will 

1356
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,400
affect their academic life. 
So I can. 

1357
00:51:46,410 --> 00:51:49,130
And as an academic person who's 
in control of this stuff, I can 

1358
00:51:49,140 --> 00:51:51,190
kind of have a bit of a say on 
because I'd argue this at home. 

1359
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,980
I'd argue that physical help is 
gonna have as much an impact as 

1360
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:55,590
their ability. 
To read but it's not in the Sats

1361
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,270
and so I think that makes me 
feel like I I'm not allowed is 

1362
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,090
more of like that's a personal 
thing I shouldn't comment on as 

1363
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:03,810
much. 
I don't think I've ever so if 

1364
00:52:03,820 --> 00:52:07,030
I've ever had a child. 
OK, touchy subject here who's 

1365
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,500
maybe a little bit larger than 
other children. 

1366
00:52:08,510 --> 00:52:12,070
I'm never ever going to sit 
there as a parent and say ohh 

1367
00:52:12,110 --> 00:52:14,360
notice they're a bit larger than
the other children. 

1368
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:16,880
Maybe you should consider doing 
this exercise right now. 

1369
00:52:16,890 --> 00:52:18,100
How cringy would that? 
Be. 

1370
00:52:18,110 --> 00:52:20,520
However, if a child couldn't 
read as well as someone else, 

1371
00:52:20,530 --> 00:52:22,250
you'd be the first. 
Person straight there. 

1372
00:52:22,260 --> 00:52:24,460
So there is definitely something
different about that, even 

1373
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:26,770
though I think physical 
education, physical education is

1374
00:52:26,780 --> 00:52:27,700
extremely. 
Important. 

1375
00:52:27,710 --> 00:52:29,630
And again, people will say, oh, 
you know, people. 

1376
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,410
Sometimes with people who are 
maybe slightly larger, there 

1377
00:52:31,420 --> 00:52:33,530
might be a reason behind it. 
Like you might have a metallic 

1378
00:52:33,540 --> 00:52:35,370
thing. 
Same for reading, though, there 

1379
00:52:35,380 --> 00:52:37,210
might be a kind of dyslexia, 
there might be something we 

1380
00:52:37,220 --> 00:52:39,740
still, we still talk about it. 
Yeah, we still help them. 

1381
00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:41,960
So it's very interesting how we 
see it, completely different. 

1382
00:52:41,970 --> 00:52:43,640
I think attitudes are changing 
towards PE. 

1383
00:52:43,930 --> 00:52:47,890
I think prevention for health in
our country is going to be huge 

1384
00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:49,470
when we can't fund the NHS 
properly. 

1385
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,920
Hmm. 
And I think that's where we're 

1386
00:52:50,930 --> 00:52:53,730
gonna head next, personally. 
But at the minute I would never 

1387
00:52:53,740 --> 00:52:56,380
say to a parent what I expect 
them to do at home. 

1388
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:58,470
Me neither. 
I you recommendations and stuff,

1389
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,030
But it would be really harsh 
here about what you need to do 

1390
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,570
at home. 
Honestly, right now it would be 

1391
00:53:03,580 --> 00:53:05,150
nothing. 
Yeah, it's funny because I do 

1392
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,430
expect it. 
Expect parents to be doing these

1393
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,640
things. 
But I would never sit there and 

1394
00:53:09,650 --> 00:53:10,130
say it. 
Yeah. 

1395
00:53:10,140 --> 00:53:11,540
As a professional inner school. 
Yeah. 

1396
00:53:11,610 --> 00:53:13,130
I wouldn't say, oh, this is the 
expectation. 

1397
00:53:13,140 --> 00:53:15,300
Yeah, yeah, it's it's just, 
yeah, it's a weird one. 

1398
00:53:15,370 --> 00:53:17,320
Crazy. 
But I guess I, you know, we can 

1399
00:53:17,330 --> 00:53:19,460
talk other subjects in general. 
But I think, I think that 

1400
00:53:19,470 --> 00:53:21,560
probably summarises how I feel 
about a lot of the other 

1401
00:53:21,570 --> 00:53:25,830
creative subjects and things. 
I'd never expect them to be 

1402
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,960
doing Art at home. 
I would like it. 

1403
00:53:28,140 --> 00:53:29,280
Umm. 
I guess that. 

1404
00:53:29,290 --> 00:53:31,930
I mean, I think he's probably 
the highest priority of all of 

1405
00:53:31,940 --> 00:53:34,280
the other subjects, because 
physical health is obviously 

1406
00:53:34,290 --> 00:53:36,520
just important in a different 
way, isn't? 

1407
00:53:36,530 --> 00:53:39,200
It maybe we could approach this 
slightly differently then and 

1408
00:53:39,210 --> 00:53:41,760
kind of encompass everything in 
terms of the other subjects. 

1409
00:53:41,770 --> 00:53:44,590
Now then, because let's start 
with what the goal is, because I

1410
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,740
think the goal with with 
reading, maths, everything we 

1411
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:51,050
talked about previously. 
The goal is of course Sats, but 

1412
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,310
at home I think the goal posts 
have moved and the whole idea is

1413
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,280
almost functioning in society. 
It's like this is how you're 

1414
00:53:57,290 --> 00:54:00,630
going to make more progress in 
school as well. 

1415
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,400
If you manage to get these 
things and we can push you and 

1416
00:54:02,410 --> 00:54:05,380
make you more able to restrict 
yourself, able to do maths, blah

1417
00:54:05,390 --> 00:54:07,950
blah blah. 
With the other stuff, I'd argue 

1418
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,670
that the only expectation I have
at home, and I would say this is

1419
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,570
an expectation. 
I wouldn't give an individual 

1420
00:54:13,580 --> 00:54:15,570
thing about do half an hour of 
science every week and do an 

1421
00:54:15,580 --> 00:54:17,290
hour of geography and make sure 
you do it, yeah. 

1422
00:54:17,300 --> 00:54:19,990
What I would say is, though, if 
you've managed to find what 

1423
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,190
interests your child and if 
you've managed to foster an 

1424
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,400
enjoyment of research and 
finding things out and learning,

1425
00:54:25,450 --> 00:54:28,220
Because I tell you what, if you 
picked a kid in my class at 

1426
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:30,800
random, I could tell you what 
they're interest is. 

1427
00:54:30,810 --> 00:54:32,990
I could be like that. 
That child is so interested in 

1428
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,230
the Roman Empire, it's 
hilarious. 

1429
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:36,260
This child is like a mini David 
Attenborough. 

1430
00:54:36,270 --> 00:54:38,550
He knows all these facts about, 
you know, frogs and stuff like 

1431
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,580
that. 
That is what I would say as a 

1432
00:54:40,590 --> 00:54:42,670
teacher to a parent. 
I was like, do that and that 

1433
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,790
would be an expectation. 
But listen, find what they're 

1434
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,660
interested in and facilitate it.
Buy them books about it, you 

1435
00:54:48,670 --> 00:54:50,620
know, let them go. 
And if they're interested in 

1436
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:52,200
wildlife, go for a walk through 
the woods. 

1437
00:54:52,290 --> 00:54:55,450
You know, I would say just react
to your child and a lot of 

1438
00:54:55,460 --> 00:54:58,650
parents did this already, but I 
would never expect anything to 

1439
00:54:58,660 --> 00:55:01,170
do with the curriculum when it 
comes to any of these things. 

1440
00:55:01,180 --> 00:55:03,210
Mm-hmm. 
It's completely out of enjoyment

1441
00:55:03,260 --> 00:55:05,750
into all. 
I think my point is extremely 

1442
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,010
similar, but there's a slightly 
different Tang to it in terms 

1443
00:55:08,020 --> 00:55:11,280
of. 
I have an expectation that I 

1444
00:55:11,290 --> 00:55:15,180
think it should be an 
expectation that parents do not 

1445
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:18,020
make school a negative thing. 
It's kind of the same point, 

1446
00:55:18,030 --> 00:55:20,920
really, but like also talking 
about like, actively avoid. 

1447
00:55:20,930 --> 00:55:22,620
I don't care about what your 
opinions are of school. 

1448
00:55:22,660 --> 00:55:25,640
Don't make your child think 
school is boring and negative. 

1449
00:55:25,650 --> 00:55:28,400
Don't big up that like. 
My expectation for you as a 

1450
00:55:28,410 --> 00:55:32,020
parent is to do your best job to
make your child enjoy coming to 

1451
00:55:32,030 --> 00:55:33,780
school. 
Because I'll do the same at 

1452
00:55:33,790 --> 00:55:36,090
school and my expectations that 
you do that and you won't be 

1453
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:37,920
like, oh, what you doing 
geography for Geography sucks, 

1454
00:55:37,930 --> 00:55:40,130
and I hated geography at school.
Don't do geography. 

1455
00:55:40,140 --> 00:55:41,510
Job is boring. 
Just get through the lessons. 

1456
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,450
If you're saying that to your 
child, it's not helping, it's 

1457
00:55:44,460 --> 00:55:45,470
not helping. 
Yeah. 

1458
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,180
And at the same time, you know, 
teach them that it's OK to have 

1459
00:55:48,190 --> 00:55:50,580
an interest, though they're 
allowed to like lessons more 

1460
00:55:50,590 --> 00:55:52,010
than others. 
Yeah, of course that's really 

1461
00:55:52,020 --> 00:55:54,100
normal. 
But, you know, and and try to 

1462
00:55:54,110 --> 00:55:56,170
find meaning in everything. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1463
00:55:56,220 --> 00:55:58,810
So just another thing because 
I've sorted my notes and it 

1464
00:55:58,820 --> 00:56:01,000
reminded me. 
So we obviously we've talked in 

1465
00:56:01,010 --> 00:56:02,410
the past, we've got choosing 
company right. 

1466
00:56:02,420 --> 00:56:04,900
So we deal with, but I speak to 
a lot of parents, you speak to a

1467
00:56:04,910 --> 00:56:07,860
lot of parents outside of 
school, not to do of our school 

1468
00:56:07,870 --> 00:56:09,460
roles, but to do with our 
tutoring business. 

1469
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:11,150
And I find it really, really 
interesting. 

1470
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,340
When you're in the world of 
tutoring, there is a whole scope

1471
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:18,710
of parenting styles. 
And I'm interested because I 

1472
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:21,220
think I've seen both ends of 
this spectrum right on on your 

1473
00:56:21,230 --> 00:56:26,870
opinion on how much is too much.
It is very dependent on the 

1474
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,160
child and I've learnt this 
through doing tutoring. 

1475
00:56:29,170 --> 00:56:30,270
I'm. 
I'm absolutely with you here. 

1476
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,550
Yeah. 
What I would say straight away 

1477
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,130
is I would separate this 
discussion we're about to have 

1478
00:56:34,140 --> 00:56:36,510
of what we've just had. 
Because I think what we just did

1479
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,410
was as a teacher, what we'd 
expect all children to be doing.

1480
00:56:39,420 --> 00:56:41,250
Yeah, Yeah. 
Now again, that was like a 

1481
00:56:41,260 --> 00:56:43,250
minimum of what we'd expect them
to do. 

1482
00:56:43,300 --> 00:56:45,570
There's, like you said, there's 
a whole scope past that and 

1483
00:56:45,580 --> 00:56:47,310
tutoring's part of that. 
That's outside of school. 

1484
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,810
That's extra. 
Of course, as people who provide

1485
00:56:49,820 --> 00:56:51,850
tutoring, we know the benefits 
that can have children. 

1486
00:56:51,860 --> 00:56:54,670
So again, I want to really 
separate this out and say like 

1487
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,430
we're now talking about parent 
LED almost like about. 

1488
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,290
Apparent. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1489
00:56:58,300 --> 00:56:59,870
I'm just interested. 
You know, you're right. 

1490
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:01,220
I think. 
Go on, repeat your question 

1491
00:57:01,230 --> 00:57:02,600
again. 
So yeah, just how basically just

1492
00:57:02,610 --> 00:57:05,070
how how much is too much and you
sort of said was yeah And on an 

1493
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:05,750
individual. 
Basis. 

1494
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,420
So I used to think that too much
was very definable. 

1495
00:57:10,510 --> 00:57:13,660
And I'd be like, OK, yeah, OK. 
Look, if you're doing half an 

1496
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:18,240
hour of solid prep work every 
day, like lesson work every 

1497
00:57:18,250 --> 00:57:21,020
night with your child, and it's 
not remotely to do with any, any

1498
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:22,260
child that enjoyment. 
Yeah. 

1499
00:57:22,310 --> 00:57:24,840
Yeah, I I would still err on the
side of doing that. 

1500
00:57:24,850 --> 00:57:28,650
Right now, however, I've met 
children since who? 

1501
00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:33,370
For them that is as fun as doing
a football club, that is as fun.

1502
00:57:33,380 --> 00:57:34,610
That's the fostering of 
enjoyment. 

1503
00:57:34,620 --> 00:57:36,690
There are some children and I 
don't know why I'm acting like 

1504
00:57:36,700 --> 00:57:39,850
it was when I was younger. 
Fun for you, fun for me was 

1505
00:57:39,860 --> 00:57:42,150
doing sums. 
I'd get my granddad because I'd 

1506
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,050
buy a book. 
My mum would buy me a book full 

1507
00:57:44,060 --> 00:57:45,150
of math sums. 
Yeah. 

1508
00:57:45,220 --> 00:57:47,350
And I would do them all and I'd 
call them sums. 

1509
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,640
They'd be multiplication and 
stuff. 

1510
00:57:48,650 --> 00:57:49,970
Like, we're gonna do my maths 
sums. 

1511
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,790
I'd write them all. 
I'd given to my granddad. 

1512
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,900
He'd marked them. 
I'd get too wrong and he'd be 

1513
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:55,730
like, what happened to them too.
And I'm like, ohh, God, I need 

1514
00:57:55,740 --> 00:57:58,010
to go to another page. 
That to me was as fun as sitting

1515
00:57:58,020 --> 00:57:59,440
and playing a video game. 
Yeah, right. 

1516
00:57:59,510 --> 00:58:02,340
So what I would say now is I 
think it has to be led by the 

1517
00:58:02,350 --> 00:58:05,460
child. 
What's too much is I think that 

1518
00:58:05,970 --> 00:58:08,340
you're always going to get 
children who resent learning. 

1519
00:58:08,350 --> 00:58:11,160
In general, those children still
have to do some learning. 

1520
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:14,720
I think it's got to be of utmost
importance to teach them that 

1521
00:58:14,730 --> 00:58:17,220
sometimes they can't enjoy every
single thing they do. 

1522
00:58:17,470 --> 00:58:19,600
That's part of life. 
They're going to be some things 

1523
00:58:19,610 --> 00:58:21,830
you do where it's to do with 
prep and helping you that your 

1524
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,600
parents want you to do and you 
have to just do it sometimes. 

1525
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:27,740
But I think there is an onus on 
the parent to at some point be 

1526
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:30,280
like, OK, well this is obviously
having an adverse effect. 

1527
00:58:30,590 --> 00:58:32,740
They have a negative attitude 
towards learning. 

1528
00:58:32,810 --> 00:58:33,300
Yeah. 
OK. 

1529
00:58:33,310 --> 00:58:35,600
I'm gonna find a different way 
to learn because I think it's 

1530
00:58:35,650 --> 00:58:37,440
links to what we said about 
reading. 

1531
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:40,520
Let's change the attitude. 
Reading doesn't have to be 

1532
00:58:40,570 --> 00:58:43,240
reading Moby Dick. 
You know, War and Peace really 

1533
00:58:43,250 --> 00:58:44,560
tricky. 
But ohh, my gosh, I've got to 

1534
00:58:44,570 --> 00:58:46,920
read this because mum said 
reading can be reading a 

1535
00:58:46,930 --> 00:58:48,400
newspaper report on your 
favourite football team. 

1536
00:58:48,410 --> 00:58:49,680
Yeah. 
Reading could be like when 

1537
00:58:49,690 --> 00:58:51,410
you're doing the cooking. 
Reading exactly enjoying 

1538
00:58:51,420 --> 00:58:54,200
learning can be following a 
recipe and making something. 

1539
00:58:54,210 --> 00:58:56,180
Enjoying learning could also be 
writing a recipe book. 

1540
00:58:56,190 --> 00:58:58,360
Like they're very different 
activities of both involved. 

1541
00:58:58,410 --> 00:59:00,660
Yeah, the same sort of context, 
yeah. 

1542
00:59:00,750 --> 00:59:02,770
Nothing to add to that really is
the same sort of opinion. 

1543
00:59:02,780 --> 00:59:03,830
So I was really interesting. 
Thank. 

1544
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,130
You. 
You're welcome. 

1545
00:59:05,140 --> 00:59:06,280
Hayden. 
You what we do? 

1546
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,430
So to to summarise, I suppose, 
let's now very succinctly say 

1547
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:11,670
two things. 
OK. 

1548
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,860
One, the minimum we'd expect 
children to bring at home all of

1549
00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:16,430
the time. 
Any child. 

1550
00:59:16,540 --> 00:59:17,900
Average Joe. 
Obviously there are some 

1551
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:20,710
exceptions #2 What would be also
good to do? 

1552
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,910
So Hayden. 
Sure. 

1553
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,970
What would you say to parents 
listening right now? 

1554
00:59:24,980 --> 00:59:26,210
I'm a teacher. 
I'm doing it for nearly a 

1555
00:59:26,220 --> 00:59:27,440
decade. 
Do this at home. 

1556
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,930
OK, so I'm going back to where I
started all the way through. 

1557
00:59:29,940 --> 00:59:31,980
Read all the time. 
OK, read as much as possible. 

1558
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:33,440
Like Dylan said, Foster and 
enjoyment. 

1559
00:59:33,450 --> 00:59:35,140
If they're not enjoying it, 
don't force it. 

1560
00:59:35,150 --> 00:59:36,730
Which is the point we were just 
making there. 

1561
00:59:36,790 --> 00:59:40,610
Find a way that they enjoy it. 
Practise times tables, make sure

1562
00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:42,480
they've got the fundamentals 
only in maths. 

1563
00:59:42,490 --> 00:59:45,120
Don't worry about too much of 
the other stuff. 

1564
00:59:45,130 --> 00:59:47,540
Don't worry that your child's 
not great along division yet 

1565
00:59:47,550 --> 00:59:49,340
honestly. 
Just make sure they know the 

1566
00:59:49,350 --> 00:59:52,040
number bonds to 10. 
They know they enjoy maths, they

1567
00:59:52,050 --> 00:59:53,980
work with, they know how to work
with number, they do their times

1568
00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:55,620
tables. 
Just get those fundamentals 

1569
00:59:55,690 --> 00:59:57,240
absolutely hammered. 
I promise you will make a 

1570
00:59:57,250 --> 00:59:58,990
massive difference. 
And then the final thing with 

1571
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,150
maths for me is again 
summarising what we said, just 

1572
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,760
the stuff in context. 
So if you can do some real life 

1573
01:00:04,770 --> 01:00:07,340
maths, show them that maths is 
real and it's not just a thing 

1574
01:00:07,350 --> 01:00:09,580
you do in in your book at school
that's also. 

1575
01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:12,310
Really impactful, particularly 
measurement and time. 

1576
01:00:12,620 --> 01:00:14,670
That's what I would say. 
Focus on those things. 

1577
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,490
Hammer it for as many years as 
you need to hammer it, and after

1578
01:00:17,500 --> 01:00:19,850
that then you can start thinking
about we can move on to more 

1579
01:00:19,860 --> 01:00:21,670
advanced stuff. 
But that's the basics for me, 

1580
01:00:22,670 --> 01:00:24,400
yeah? 
Exactly the same. 

1581
01:00:24,510 --> 01:00:26,480
Genuinely exactly the same as 
what you just said. 

1582
01:00:26,530 --> 01:00:30,020
And I would say, I would 
genuinely say that I would 

1583
01:00:30,030 --> 01:00:34,700
expect or really, OK, let's go 
one step down, really, really, 

1584
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:39,670
really encourage you guys to 
just do an arrangement of other 

1585
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,400
stuff. 
Do, do that is your is your 

1586
01:00:42,410 --> 01:00:44,120
core. 
But I would think that would be 

1587
01:00:44,130 --> 01:00:45,820
a very weak core of that's all 
you were doing. 

1588
01:00:45,860 --> 01:00:48,400
So I think alongside that you 
have to supplement it with a 

1589
01:00:48,410 --> 01:00:51,280
nature walk every now and then. 
Oh look, there's a bird up 

1590
01:00:51,290 --> 01:00:52,400
there. 
I wonder what that bird is. 

1591
01:00:52,410 --> 01:00:54,220
Find out. 
That that's the parallelogram in

1592
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:54,770
the. 
Tree. 

1593
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:58,060
That's what stuff. 
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

1594
01:00:58,070 --> 01:01:00,680
It's a wild Pentagon. 
But yeah, absolutely. 

1595
01:01:00,690 --> 01:01:04,140
You know, find stuff. 
I know what you gonna say. 

1596
01:01:04,150 --> 01:01:06,860
I know what you're gonna say. 
That was we posted a picture 

1597
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:10,730
once of there was a there was a 
test that we did in year three. 

1598
01:01:10,740 --> 01:01:11,900
And it was your girlfriend, I 
think. 

1599
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,320
Yeah. 
The question was simply draw a 

1600
01:01:14,330 --> 01:01:15,480
Pentagon. 
Yeah, right. 

1601
01:01:15,490 --> 01:01:19,320
In a test, a child thought it 
was a child thought what? 

1602
01:01:19,330 --> 01:01:21,820
A Peacock, Peacock. 
Peacock But it was the most 

1603
01:01:21,830 --> 01:01:24,580
detailed beautiful Peacock you 
know See imagine being that 

1604
01:01:24,590 --> 01:01:26,690
child like hating maths but you 
love you love wildlife. 

1605
01:01:26,700 --> 01:01:28,620
Like good question. 
Oh my God, Oh my God. 

1606
01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:31,410
I I can draw Peacock and they 
spent like 10 minutes drawing. 

1607
01:01:31,420 --> 01:01:33,440
This is very beautiful. 
It was, really. 

1608
01:01:33,450 --> 01:01:34,590
Funny, but yeah. 
Foster learning. 

1609
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,330
Do some research. 
Do some projects. 

1610
01:01:36,580 --> 01:01:39,430
Dive head first into doing those
if the school set them. 

1611
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,520
Yeah, you know, build an 
Anglo-Saxon Shield's amazing. 

1612
01:01:42,530 --> 01:01:44,670
And trying to leave, try to 
leave preconceptions behind. 

1613
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,150
A lot of parents who didn't 
enjoy school and it's very 

1614
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:51,190
obvious when they have given 
that feeling of school to their 

1615
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,630
children as well. 
I've just passed it down. 

1616
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,390
I hated maths at school and now,
funnily enough, so does my 

1617
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:56,790
child. 
Yeah, could you tell them you 

1618
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:57,770
hate maths everyday? 
Yeah. 

1619
01:01:57,780 --> 01:01:59,310
So yeah, just try to be 
positive. 

1620
01:01:59,350 --> 01:02:01,180
Right, let's head off for a 
Jingle. 

1621
01:02:01,190 --> 01:02:03,370
Hope you enjoyed that chat 
because when we come back we've 

1622
01:02:03,380 --> 01:02:07,730
got a nice quick game we're 
going to play, right? 

1623
01:02:07,740 --> 01:02:10,150
Quick game, just to finish off 
something to keep the people 

1624
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,670
listening for the last bit of 
fun. 

1625
01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:13,650
I want to do this game. 
I've seen it a lot on radio 

1626
01:02:13,660 --> 01:02:15,070
stations and stuff like that, 
OK? 

1627
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,990
It's basically I'm going to 
whisper a saying to you, OK, I'm

1628
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,570
gonna whisper some kind of say. 
It's gonna be linked to 

1629
01:02:20,580 --> 01:02:23,550
education in some way. 
But you can only read my lips 

1630
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,080
because whilst I'm whispering 
this, obviously people can pick 

1631
01:02:26,090 --> 01:02:28,590
up on the mic so you can hear it
at home, what I'm saying. 

1632
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,490
But Hayden's going to have 
headphones in listening to some 

1633
01:02:31,500 --> 01:02:34,050
Taylor Swift, so he can't hear 
anything. 

1634
01:02:34,060 --> 01:02:36,530
He only has my lips to go off. 
So I'm going to say it so 

1635
01:02:36,540 --> 01:02:37,880
everyone can hear it, but you 
can't hear. 

1636
01:02:37,890 --> 01:02:39,540
You gotta look. 
You've got to lip read and say 

1637
01:02:39,550 --> 01:02:40,770
what you hear. 
OK, and So what you. 

1638
01:02:40,780 --> 01:02:43,020
And we've got a few weeks. 
We've prepped a few each for 

1639
01:02:43,030 --> 01:02:44,440
Hayden. 
Here, your headphones. 

1640
01:02:44,450 --> 01:02:46,940
OK, so put your headphones in. 
I'm gonna play some antihero by 

1641
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:48,860
Taylor Swift. 
OK, Current favourite in my 

1642
01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:50,760
class is that. 
Playing nice and loud. 

1643
01:02:50,770 --> 01:02:53,040
Bit louder. 
Yeah, that's really loud. 

1644
01:02:53,050 --> 01:02:53,670
Yeah. 
OK. 

1645
01:02:53,710 --> 01:02:54,960
Is that alright? 
Hang on. 

1646
01:02:55,030 --> 01:02:55,620
Yep. 
Good. 

1647
01:02:55,630 --> 01:02:57,140
I'm good, right? 
So we're gonna do a quick test. 

1648
01:02:57,190 --> 01:02:59,100
I I can't hear anything. 
By the way, can you hear me 

1649
01:02:59,110 --> 01:03:01,130
right now? 
Can you hear me right now? 

1650
01:03:01,170 --> 01:03:05,030
No, I'm literally ready. 
So, Hayden, you got it. 

1651
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,340
The first one, right? 
Play along at home. 

1652
01:03:07,350 --> 01:03:08,960
Even though you can hear. 
You need to give me a signal 

1653
01:03:08,970 --> 01:03:10,350
when you're doing it. 
By the way, I can't hear 

1654
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,540
anything. 
But you've got really loud, so 

1655
01:03:12,550 --> 01:03:15,190
anyone listening at home, it's 
Hayden shouting now. 

1656
01:03:15,230 --> 01:03:17,190
OK. 
So the first one again all 

1657
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,250
linked to you can't hear me. 
OK, ready. 

1658
01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:25,370
And I go to the toilet. 
Can I go to the? 

1659
01:03:25,380 --> 01:03:26,780
Door Can I go to the toilet? 
Yeah. 

1660
01:03:28,530 --> 01:03:30,120
OK, I'm gonna do a couple. 
You know what to be. 

1661
01:03:30,130 --> 01:03:32,940
OK, next one. 
Get an ice pack. 

1662
01:03:33,820 --> 01:03:36,450
Go and get an ice pack. 
Go and get a classmate. 

1663
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:41,680
No, Come and get a nice pack. 
Go and get your book bag. 

1664
01:03:43,110 --> 01:03:45,560
Don't get your one more time. 
One more time, OK. 

1665
01:03:45,780 --> 01:03:49,080
Go and get an ice pack. 
Go and get a class back. 

1666
01:03:49,790 --> 01:03:51,250
I don't know. 
Think about what to. 

1667
01:03:51,260 --> 01:03:53,990
Go and get an ice pack. 
Ohh. 

1668
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,630
Close right ice pack. 
No one, really. 

1669
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:57,440
Ohh. 
Hang on. 

1670
01:03:57,630 --> 01:03:58,890
OK, OK. 
Wait a minute. 

1671
01:03:59,090 --> 01:04:00,410
You good? 
Hang on. 

1672
01:04:00,420 --> 01:04:02,210
This is sound stopped. 
OK, we're good. 

1673
01:04:02,220 --> 01:04:03,320
We're good. 
OK, ready. 

1674
01:04:03,970 --> 01:04:08,420
It's your time you're wasting. 
This is so funny because I wrote

1675
01:04:08,430 --> 01:04:10,580
this down. 
It's your time you're wasting. 

1676
01:04:11,130 --> 01:04:13,820
I literally did that one on. 
Mine, right. 

1677
01:04:13,830 --> 01:04:15,580
OK, you got 2 Avery. 
OK. 

1678
01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:17,370
It was so funny how loud you 
were. 

1679
01:04:17,490 --> 01:04:19,450
Really sorry guys. 
I'm so funny, right? 

1680
01:04:19,460 --> 01:04:20,940
OK, I'm trying to hear my own 
voice. 

1681
01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:23,260
Right, my turn. 
Cross that one off. 

1682
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,760
OK, also when I whispered. 
I really hope you guys picked it

1683
01:04:25,770 --> 01:04:27,680
up because at first I was 
whispering almost within. 

1684
01:04:27,690 --> 01:04:29,300
Myself. 
Also, you kept giving me 

1685
01:04:29,310 --> 01:04:30,620
instructions. 
I had no idea what you're 

1686
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:33,080
saying. 
I know how this works, so give 

1687
01:04:33,090 --> 01:04:33,990
me a thumbs up when you're back 
to. 

1688
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,250
It I'm gonna give a thumbs up. 
I'm gonna cross out that one. 

1689
01:04:36,260 --> 01:04:37,140
Guys. 
Here we go. 

1690
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,750
That is so long. 
It's really loud music. 

1691
01:04:39,820 --> 01:04:40,790
OK, here you go. 
Ready. 

1692
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,300
Wait, wait, wait. 
OK. 

1693
01:04:44,450 --> 01:04:45,680
Ohh, I forgot to say it into the
mic. 

1694
01:04:45,690 --> 01:04:50,380
Hang on. 
No, I just wished it to myself. 

1695
01:04:50,430 --> 01:04:53,490
Wait, don't shout out. 
Are you doing it? 

1696
01:04:53,610 --> 01:04:56,120
Yes, you're. 
Doing it, Don't shout out. 

1697
01:04:57,450 --> 01:05:00,610
Go down to town. 
Not go down to town again, don't

1698
01:05:00,620 --> 01:05:03,180
shout out. 
Don't shout out, don't shout. 

1699
01:05:03,190 --> 01:05:03,900
Out. 
Well done. 

1700
01:05:03,950 --> 01:05:06,330
So the first time anyone not not
watching, I mouthed it, 

1701
01:05:06,340 --> 01:05:08,560
forgetting that you guys can't 
see my mouth, right. 

1702
01:05:08,570 --> 01:05:13,410
Next one assembly time. 
Say again? 

1703
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:19,610
Assembly time one more time, 
assembly time can you tell the 

1704
01:05:19,620 --> 01:05:24,630
time? 
No ohh assembly time it is play 

1705
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,950
time. 
It's like really, really 

1706
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,070
Assembly time. 
Almost. 

1707
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:35,320
One more. 
OK, one more staff meeting 

1708
01:05:35,330 --> 01:05:39,420
snacks again. 
Staff meeting snacks. 

1709
01:05:39,830 --> 01:05:46,480
Staff bleating mess, but he 
staff meeting snacks. 

1710
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,260
Staff meeting bed. 
No bed. 

1711
01:05:50,530 --> 01:05:54,380
Staff meeting snacks. 
Staff meeting sucks. 

1712
01:05:55,460 --> 01:05:57,680
He thinks he's got a He thinks 
he got it and he got it wrong. 

1713
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:00,720
Things are coming and taking the
road. 

1714
01:06:00,730 --> 01:06:06,950
Stop meeting snacks. 
Ohh God that was quite well 

1715
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,040
done. 
So the first time by the way, 

1716
01:06:08,050 --> 01:06:10,290
you couldn't hear me. 
No time. 

1717
01:06:10,300 --> 01:06:11,190
I did it. 
I mouthed it. 

1718
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,310
I didn't even whisper it. 
That's why I realised like. 

1719
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,170
I can't wait to play it back and
they can't hear me either. 

1720
01:06:17,180 --> 01:06:19,130
Yeah guys. 
Hope you. 

1721
01:06:19,140 --> 01:06:20,770
Enjoyed it. 
If it cuts to this part right 

1722
01:06:20,780 --> 01:06:23,250
now and you just come back from 
the jungle, it's because we just

1723
01:06:23,260 --> 01:06:26,270
played the game and it didn't 
pick up at all on the mic, so we

1724
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:30,120
and we can't bothered it again. 
So thanks for, you know, waiting

1725
01:06:30,130 --> 01:06:31,400
anyway. 
Oh my God. 

1726
01:06:31,410 --> 01:06:32,960
Amazing right? 
We're going to finish off that 

1727
01:06:32,970 --> 01:06:34,100
guys. 
I hope it wasn't too 

1728
01:06:34,110 --> 01:06:36,080
controversial this week. 
After explaining everything 

1729
01:06:36,090 --> 01:06:38,000
teachers shouldn't do, we sat 
here as teacher and told you 

1730
01:06:38,010 --> 01:06:39,100
everything you should do at 
home. 

1731
01:06:39,210 --> 01:06:41,200
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, Hayden, did you enjoy 

1732
01:06:41,210 --> 01:06:43,110
that? 
I really enjoyed it and I can't 

1733
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,780
wait to find out the criticisms 
of what I've said again. 

1734
01:06:45,830 --> 01:06:48,520
Yeah yeah did get a few messages
saying CAN headers. 

1735
01:06:49,270 --> 01:06:50,470
Made my mind up this time. 
I didn't. 

1736
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,960
I didn't. 
I was pretty clear what I 

1737
01:06:52,970 --> 01:06:54,490
expect. 
Right guys, hope you enjoyed 

1738
01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:57,020
that and have a lovely Monday. 
Have a lovely week and we'll see

1739
01:06:57,030 --> 01:06:58,610
you again next time. 
Bye.