Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of
Teaching with Pete. My name is Dylan.
And my name is Hayden and we're gonna do then head bobbing in
the Barber in the Barber in the Bob the whole podcast like this
where we say random words and. Yes, I reckon our audience is
riveted. Ohh, look at that retention drop
off after the 1st 10 seconds. They're all clicked away.
Imagine if this was your first episode.
You clicked on this podcast. Yeah, they're really insightful.
Serious. Take, take education, Saw that,
Tasmanian. Devil, remember that?
Yeah. Lemony Fresh.
They'll remember that was it from.
Come on, if you know that's writing, Please God, I used to
do really impression of tax, but I don't know if I can now.
Go on, right Ohh. You sound like something else,
not ours. Ohh.
I don't know. Anyway, guys, welcome back this
Season 2 Episode 5. Yep.
And how's your weekend? Yeah.
It's good to look at my notes again, though.
Change to Hayden yourself. Hayden how was your week?
Hayden Brain by me, my week was. Good.
I'm like Biden. They're saying that they got
that clip of his notes where it's just they've written for
him exactly what say address audience with a clap.
But he says what he's meant to do.
Yeah he didn't. He got caught up on time,
remember that was a different time, but recently his notes got
like flicked to the camera. They turned them and they and
they just zoomed in picture of all his notes and they were
saying look how controlled he is.
It's such a shame. I feel really bad because
obviously I dislike Trump as an as much as the next guy, right?
But how can the biggest democracy in the world boil down
to Biden versus Trump? Yeah, like what is?
Going on and ohh God, who's the guy who keeps freezing?
Ohh. Mitch McConnell.
Just going on, America.
What's going on, America? Meme, right?
Yeah, and it just keeps cutting them.
It's happened three times. It happened again.
Like yesterday, the day before. Something again, you know,
Anyway, we're getting, we're getting political.
I don't even want to. So it's time you had a headache,
remember? Oh my Here we go.
Sounds so pathetic. What?
What was the dog prognosis? At the end, it was a hemiplegic
migraine. It was a headache 8 away from
ever scared. You.
Yeah, everyone thought a stroke, including me.
I thought I was like, oh, this is what I was stroking.
Ohh, we can't laugh about that. It's funny now.
We're laughing because I didn't. Because it wasn't me.
And I thought I was Ohh actually, after all those tests
and not worry of everyone who ever knew you, I was there
thinking, God, he's gone. But I do get the whole business.
Wow. That's what teaching does to
you, by the way. This is what?
Teaching. Dusty.
I'm joking. God, people listen to this for
the first time. Really.
Yeah, these guys, yeah, they're horrible.
They talk about nothing and they mean to each other.
No, not at all. It was it was scary.
Long story short, I woke up one day, my face was numb, left side
and my left arm was numb and I was like, OK, that's gonna be
telling me. And I was like, that's.
I know what that is. Better go to hospital.
Yeah. And then.
And then I lost my speech. I couldn't speak at all.
I sounded like his Tasmanian Devil impression.
It was, yeah, it was me. Literally.
I sounded like this. Similar.
I couldn't process language. It was mad, but I couldn't hear
in my head. It was all there, yeah, and then
it was. It was good fun.
Crazy, crazy. Anyway, how's your?
Week. Yeah, My week.
This week was good. I want one thing is the joint
story, really. But.
So I went outside on Monday, must have been Monday.
And a bunch of yours came from him.
Obviously he's looking, saying again, just, yeah, I was
actually thinking he's looking at he.
They count to me. And they were in a line actually
at the time. And I was walking past and they
were like looking really excited immediately at me.
I'm thinking, here we go. Like.
I was like, you're right. Ohh is the price.
Is the price. He had your number.
You had you on the sad face. He had you on the sad face.
Ohh did he Ohh that was really hammered out.
And I was like did that Mister ohh he's one.
And then one of them came in and looked, sort of leaned in, was
like and. And we know your name.
You told us your name. You're getting well, giddy.
I was like, daddy, I'm going. What's he told you?
And they were like, alright, Robert, call me Robert.
Another story right now. Yeah, we did that classic thing.
We do cousins and brothers, right.
They said, what's his name? I want Bob.
And they went, now it's not. Yes, Bob, Bob, Bob's name.
No, it's not. And I was like, all right, fine,
he's running Robert. We call him Bob because Bob's a
nickname. And there would be like Robert.
And they were brought up to you saying you're right, but then
you tell them my name, apparently.
Yeah, I did. So I said to them.
I said, well, I bet you don't know his name.
And they're like, yeah, yeah, we do his his name is Dylan.
I was like because I just tell my children, yeah.
And I was like, no, no, no, no. God, he's fooled another class.
No, he's not. He tells that to kids because he
doesn't actually want, you know, in his real name.
They're like, genuinely, like, no, he's done us.
But what? What is it then?
What is it? What is it?
I was like, come here, looking around as if you're there.
His name is Hayden. His name's Hayden and like
Hayden Hayden, he's come over. His actual name is Hayden.
And they were just, yeah, so excited.
God. Did they?
Did they say it to you? Did they come back and say,
yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh, that pesky
Rob. What's he like?
Ohh brilliant. Such a small thing, but it feels
this makes our day so much easier.
Doesn't even that around a little.
It's just funny. And like we always say, the kids
love it. It's just saying as well.
I love those moments. Yeah, it's just nonsense.
It's just funny. They probably went home.
Yeah, because parents are like what you learned.
Well, Mr Prices name is actually Hayden.
Sorry. Yeah, but did you do science
today? Yes, we did.
Family trees and I can now place all the teachers at school
somehow. Love knowing names, don't they?
I don't care. No, I couldn't care less.
It's my name. Yeah, it's like, yeah, I know
your name. Yeah, Only problem is I feel bad
about it is obviously other teachers, people have their own
levels of strictness about names.
And so today a kid walked past me, went Hayden and I was like,
I don't personally care, but I was a bit like, Oh no, as if
that's naughty and that's naughty, is it?
It is naughty. If you set that Preston, is that
just like a lot of bad about because you gotta be consistent.
If someone another teacher name did that, it would just be rude,
wouldn't it? Yeah.
Just because we we can't, we can't decide for everyone.
That's suddenly is not rude. Yeah, but exactly I know, which
is why I did say that we have to teach them.
Yeah, you know, here, Mr Stevens, thank you.
We talked about this before. This is happened before I think
on the podcast I mentioned. I remember in our old school,
lovely teacher but more strictly old school, one of their
teachers said my name in front whilst I was talking to her and
she went. Mad one of the kids did, yeah.
One of the one of the kids said my name and the teacher was
like, how dare you? And this whole time I was there
like I've I've said I've let him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't feel bad about this.
Sorry, sorry, kid. I had to explain to the kid
after. I was like, This is why it's my
fault. I'm sorry.
And you do have to do the seven detentions.
This is why it's my fault. And therefore I'm still blaming
you. Because remember, when teachers
make a mistake, I was meant. To yeah, it was a.
It was a test. It was a test.
It was a. Test and you failed and you
failed kid, because you said my name another teacher that no.
No. Dear Anyway, other than that one
of a little story, which was quite nice, I thought I'd
mention it. It's a boy in my class.
A nice moment. It was lined up ready at the end
of break and he said my brother is in Mr Price's class and he
was genuinely really, really pleased that both him and his
brother at the same time. We're in Milan, Yours class like
that was like a privilege and he went and I was in Mr Price's
class when I was in year four and it was just nice.
The way he was saying it was. If he was like, that was like a
great, that was a cool thing. Yeah.
So I liked that. That was nice.
Had a fun time. Progress was terrible, but great
time. Everyone's nice.
Learn how to do it. Yeah, I can't wait to clip that
task with no context. I'm gonna post it as a real with
no context whatsoever and just ask what the context was.
Oh, it's you acting out Hayden's migraine this time?
Yeah, that's Hayden asking for help.
Myself. Anyway, you good week?
Yeah, fine, fine. I was in singing assembly, so
and that's the first one I've been in since the whole
cauliflowers fluffy thing, you know that.
You know the name of that song is.
Cauliflowers are fluffy, no? Surely crazy because we were
waiting. We were going through practise
as long assembly ready for harvest festival and like the
next song is called Paintbox And I was like this paint paint box.
Where's the bangers at? And then she went, oh, you might
also know as qualifiers. Fluffy and I was like excuse.
Me. It's actually called pink called
pink box or something like that, what I know.
Can you believe it? I was like, just call it
qualifier. Come on, where it it's like,
yeah, one of those trendy, like, you know those those cool bands
like monkeys. Ohh, yes, of course.
Fluorescent adolescent man. But you don't say that in a
song. Yeah, call it someone.
Called Strawberry Ripe. Why they were called that these
days. Yeah, it's called Water
Minister. That's a real one.
Check. I just made-up.
I'm on the part of Harry Styles, right?
There I have Photoshop to you. I have Photoshop your face on
Harry Styles before. Maybe we can post that on this
can be another real like Bing. There you go.
There I am. Somewhere, maybe one day we'll
do our quiz rounds as a yeah, so good.
We're on Instagram, some kind of quiz rounds and questions.
We've got a Q&A later. We are social media for Q&A.
Some I asked for any question and they did not disappoint
because we've got some questions that are quite cool, might
provoke quite a bit of a chat, some questions.
So we'll do that. Later.
I do like that I'm in the dark of this sort of stuff because it
makes it way more fun for me. Yes, fine.
Just take all that hard work. I have none of the fun
whatsoever, Sue. Anyway, seeing an assembly and I
just had this moment. This is like, maybe, you know,
coming away from serious now because seeing an assembly is
objectively amazing. I I like the the sound of like
300 kids singing. It's just nice.
I don't know anyone who would think that's like, it's lovely
seeing them. I'm like getting into it.
And they had some of the kids in my class were like rocking away
like this because they knew I was in there.
They were looking, they were like, yeah, and they were doing
cauliflowers, fluffy. And I was just like, yeah, go
on. You clearly don't sit with your
sixes like this every year that goes on in a primary school
thing. Assembly.
Less enthusiasm. Yeah, but Mike, they were
rocking life. It's still cool to be in
singing. Sound like yeah, yeah.
And I was just the whole time thinking about you when your
lyrics I'm right. Right.
Anyway, but then I had a moment, I was thinking, we did another
him, and it was just like a classic, more like a classical
him about God. And I just thought, this is
mental, this is mad. Like, objectively mad.
You've got 400 kids in the room making them all.
Seeing God is great. He's got me in his hands.
Does he? Does he know?
Do you believe in it? Yeah, that's fine.
Yeah. But like even Isn't it just a
bit weird that we make kids sing hymns about God?
It's a bit weird. Can you imagine?
I think my point here was I thought, OK, imagine if we
decided to sing a him or a song from a different.
Religion. Yeah.
And it was just like, yeah, we were just seeing this Islamic
him. I don't know if Islam has him.
I don't actually know anything like enough about religion.
But let's just imagine it was like we were reciting something
together from like Islam. I think there would be parents
who would have. Something to say about Yeah, of
course they would and but when it's like even if you're an
atheist but you sing Christian hymns like ohh he is lovely.
It's jolly we're seeing about how God's got me in his hands.
That must be odd, isn't it? And it was one of, like, whose
idea was the Reign? Whose idea was the rainbow?
No ones. It's just how light refracts.
Yeah, like need to get you to sing about God.
Do we? It's like, ohh always think
about God and all these things. And I was just like, ohh like,
it is just lovely on the surface level because I enjoy it.
Yeah. But like, when I actually think
about what we're getting them to sing, I'm like, that's.
Weird, yeah. I mean I've always this is this
is a you've opened a big conversation which I don't think
I want to go into fully right now.
Well but welcome to this episode guys.
It's called religion and. Thinking I think it's a it's a
sensitive conversation that we should have because people are
very opinionated when it comes to begin.
I think, by the way, I've got nothing wrong with anyone who
believes whatever. They.
No, I know, I know. I'm explicitly talking about.
I think it's odd that we sing these religious songs.
Yeah. Has but basically forced.
Yeah. And we just kind of ignore the
fact that it's just saying that God is real and he is looking
after us and he's. True, yeah.
Because I think people have usually got an opinion when it
is, like you said, any other religion being taught in
schools, like, in a way where it's like this is truth, right?
If it's not a Christian religion, I think there are a
lot of people. Usually third of schools are
faith schools in this country. We have Christian schools right
throughout. If one Islamic school popped up,
there'd be huge people moaning. It's like, I'm sorry, you've
been paying 7 foot, 8 foot people.
Really annoying. It's like, Damn you, where's my
tall? School and we listen to them if
it ain't foot blokes voted. Yeah, nothing.
Nothing. When you around every week and
someone we got Caspers delivered, someone dropped off.
Honest, honest to God, this man was like, absolutely Hench.
I came in, I said tell him, God, if he told me that he was going
to take the case for himself, I would have done nothing about
it. Honestly, he was massive.
Yeah, I was going to give it to you anyway.
Yeah, that's fine. Yeah.
Did you want your tip? I've got to tell you what I bet
he was bloody lovely, bloody lovely boat.
You're being horribly stereotypical and you're part of
the. Problem.
No, I was just saying I'm scared.
I was just saying I looked at him and I thought he would ruin
me. Absolutely physically destroy
me. I wouldn't stand a chance.
That's a good way of you getting off this conversation topic.
I know, Yeah, maybe we'll talk about in the future.
I know it just sat really uncomfortable with me because I
don't actually care. I enjoy it.
I like it. I think I care more that people
would have some kind of double standard.
Like if there ohh, it's just a nice song about being grateful
for like fruit and for rainbows and stuff.
Isn't that lovely? Yeah.
So yeah, OK, keep that same energy then if it was anything
else. And I just don't think.
People, I agree if we yeah, I totally agree that it is odd.
I don't really know what my opinion is on it other than
yeah, it's a strange one because we definitely, definitely,
definitely would not view it in the same light if it was
anything other than a Christian country.
Shot. Yeah, over it.
So much like what do you mean? How can a country be Christian?
I know what sorry. Soil.
What? Ohh you are Christian.
OK. Sorry.
Yeah, that one. No problem.
Sorry. Imagine every line we drew in
the land. Yeah, this is this one.
OK, cool. This one.
Christian. Hang on, just gonna go and ask
all of the unborn humans of the future what kind of country they
want to be born into. Christian.
Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter what they want
because they're in the country in the Christian.
Or at least it was Christian when they got converted 1000
years ago. But we don't talk about the 13
billion years before that. No, no, no, no.
My favourite thing ever. We got on religion here, but
just one thing because I just love it.
I don't know what you guys think.
It's just the fact that a king just changed it one day.
I know that judge of England. And then it was like God of this
country. God said that, Did he?
Did he? Yeah, God said.
I'll tell you what he He looked at my wife and he went.
I agree, mate. I think you should be able to
get rid of it. Can you imagine being lucky
enough to be king? Right.
And people just think you're God.
And you're like, yeah. Wait, yeah, one minute, one
minute. He just.
Sorry. One second.
Just check my Bishop. Can I just say something's true?
I can just. Yeah.
Because I'm God Cool. You can divorce your wife and
we'll call it the Church of England.
Literally. OK.
And then we just leave it now. Yeah.
Is that what you, Bishop? The church being the Church of
the thing that we've got a record of a human just inventing
because you wanted the divorce? Yeah.
OK.
My Lord. Yeah.
Anyway, sorry to anyone who believes in the Catholic faith.
I'm not even coming. I don't care.
The belief is just funny, isn't it?
Yeah, because if you think about it, what the wife believe?
Well, you, you don't believe anything.
Yeah, not really. Because I don't know.
I don't know. Could be true.
Could be. Probably not.
I don't know. That's my opinion.
That's why.
That's why I'm saying my. Opinion.
Because I keep trying to move on from the conversation and you
say isn't really enticement. Or is it?
Or is it Garrett Boy? Yeah, I'm dangling that carrot.
Ohh, I've got nothing against it.
I just personally don't believe it.
No, no, that's that's truthful. I know.
I love talking about. It.
Yeah, I know, I know. I think we should do a whole
episode another day, OK? Another time.
You don't need it. Louder.
Yeah. No, we got we got some planned.
No. Should they jiggle?
Yeah. You're still listening.
This is your first step. Is an imaginary group of people,
right? This is your first episode.
And I'm really sorry because this is actually a MI no.
I'll tell you what guys come back after the Jingle because we
talk absolute OK you good job. We saved that with the old
edited yeah. So you should we talk Absolutely
amazing bits. Of yeah, I was gonna say sugar
whole conversation. You'll never know, cause we cut
it. It's probably seen the title.
Yeah, the big announcement wasn't that we've been telling
people that were cousins. That's not the big.
Yeah, big announcement. We didn't even use that story,
did we Not? No, you haven't.
Anyway, obviously the big announcement is Ohh.
Dylan's gonna be an uncle because I'm having a baby.
Just wanted to let you guys all know that next mum ohh I'm gonna
be having a baby. They don't ohh George.
I'm actually like really thrown off it.
Alright Dylan you are mate. He's got annoying.
Yeah you that that is something to that's just not that's not on
that for a second. No.
You are having a baby next month.
Yeah, I'm having a baby. You personally.
Me personally. Myself.
But yes, my lovely, my lovely Lauren is pregnant.
Ask you didn't he didn't know? No, I had no idea.
Close enough. That's weird because mines 9.
Hang on. Sorry.
Have you got big announcement? Whoa, whoa, Yeah.
Anyway, this is a 11. We didn't have to say it.
I'm. I'm on officially now.
I'm on paternity leave. Yeah, so we kept that quiet for
31 weeks, didn't we, Joe? It's mad I worked out.
Come on, it must have been when we started this podcast.
Was pretty much the area of conception.
Ohh, that's a nice one. He must have been, Yeah, I guess
so. I'm just maths.
So not. Yeah.
Not too far to know. Yeah.
We had a couple of breaks, aren't we?
Yeah, I guess so. We're on for 34 episodes.
I think so. But yeah, I mean, yeah, there
you go. I hate saying my own news.
Just sorry, just to clarify, the joke was me jumping on is his
big announcement today. He's having a baby imminently.
No. Because what we've done is we've
been putting it off because we just, like, obviously don't
wanna make I think, do we? Yeah.
But we do now. We do now because it's imminent.
And yeah, I'm on paternity leave.
It's crazy. Even school on Tuesday.
And I was like, ohh, I'm not gonna be back in school for a
whole 2 weeks. Ohh.
Things are gonna be so different when you come back.
Yeah, mad. Like it's gonna be completely
transformative. Two whole weeks with my child.
Yeah, one of the things we talk about is paternity leave and how
mad it is. But in all seriousness, I was
until Tuesday was my last day. Yeah.
And the baby's not here yet, obviously, but it's just my last
day and I kind of finished everything.
Can you imagine just yet? She's in hospital.
What's that? Sorry.
Teaching. Repeat episode 5.
So let's wrap this up. Charlie No.
So I was in school Tuesday kind of got everything I needed to
get done, done. Everything was sorted for the
last couple of weeks and I was just thinking, OK this is weird
because I when I finished my lesson I was like even though
it's only it works out close to a month because of half time and
stuff and our part time schedule.
So it's like it's better than two weeks but it's just two
weeks of school. Like we were sorting out cover.
Yeah. And the way that the covers
happening, it boils down to like 5 sessions and covering like
just the way it worked out because of what we got in school
and I was like. I certainly didn't feel bad.
I was like, ohh, yeah, you'll just go for it.
Yeah. No one had a problem, by the
way. But I was just like, that's not
that's nothing compared to when a woman goes off and it's like,
cool, that's a year we've got to cover the class war.
Anyway, I was finished all my stuff on Tuesday and I was just
thinking, I'm not gonna be back in school doing the thing I've
done for like 7 years. My thing.
That's your thing, isn't it? A teacher.
That's what you do. And I can't imagine doing it
now. I just can't imagine doing it
with the same mindset. Yeah.
Like, it was a really watershed moment for me where I was like,
this is now not going to be my number one thing.
Yeah. Yeah, Like it.
It was so bizarre. Because I've always, no matter
what we say about teaching, I've always put my heart and soul
into the job when I'm in front of the kids.
Because I think no matter what happens with workload and stuff,
I think at the start of my career, I put my heart and soul
into every part of the job. Yeah, planning marking with the.
Kids and the time, no matter what, I didn't care because it
was my thing. Over the years that's been like
chipped away out and I don't, I just don't want to do that
anymore. My planning or anything like.
That really, there's little things come in like ohh, we
bought house. Yeah, yeah, OK.
In a long term relationship now, you know, so you chipping away
at stuff and you're like you have more priorities.
You're not just fresh out of uni where work is your life, You
start developing other stuff like you said.
We had the business for example we bought our first home but and
and now this is another thing obviously that's gonna but it's
on a whole nother level. And I just thought to myself I I
hope I can continue to give my all when I'm stood in front of
the kids because I do love them. Like I I I do want to give them
everything every part of me. But I can't help but think that
this is like a watershed moment and maybe other people who've
had kids and gone through this. It starts to make more sense to
me now like even though it's even though my child isn't here
yet. I just think, Oh my God, I
really, really, really already struggle with the idea of even
wanting to be anywhere other than with your kid.
Yeah. And I I.
It was such a weird moment. That's nice, though.
Yeah, I know. But it was such a weird moment
on Tuesday where I was like, ohh, I have 30 kids every year.
They're my kid. I just feel like my kids will
look after them. Yeah, you know, you want the
best for them. Help them as much as possible.
But now I'm going to have my own kid and it's just like Will
will. I resent spending 8 hours with
them every day when my child's at home and I could be spending
8 hours My child, I really hope not.
But it was such anyway. Such a watershed moment where I
thought, ah, this isn't my priority now, from now on when
I'm in this building, I'll be thinking about getting home.
And whereas now I'm like, I love teaching and I just think, I
hope it's not the final nail in that coffin and I really.
Struggle. I don't think it will be.
I think you'll have a bit of a adjustment period, I reckon.
I'll say you, if I'm not about to go for this amount of time as
well, so I can do the trial for six.
Weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is the great thing, by the way, for the running joke with
our pregnancies the whole way that Dylan's been a month ahead.
Yeah, it's been like, cool. I get to watch you do all the
stuff. I'll learn from your any
mistakes you make. I'll practise with your baby.
It's just wrong. Don't do that.
Yeah.
And then learn from that. But no, I think I think you'll,
I think you'll be absolutely fine.
I reckon you'll just but I do think it is still just going to
be another little chip down in terms of you'll want to go home.
We'll never let you said. But I don't think just knowing
you I don't think it will change what you're like in front of the
kids whatsoever. I think you'll be exactly the
same as ever, and you'll just be even more excited to share your
life with them. Yeah, I think so.
Because they'll be like, hey, look, because you've got a baby,
I'm not suddenly gonna change. Because here's the thing, like,
just like cards on the table, that I think the reason I'm a
teacher still is because I I can't possibly think of a
different way to spend my time than entertaining and helping
children in that way that we get to his class teacher.
It comes with all the other stuff.
But like, I can't imagine doing anything other than that because
I just absolutely love it. And I still love it now.
And I'm like, with what we free for five weeks into term.
And like, I know I still am up for it because I feel that bond
with my kids already. Like, I love these kids.
And I told them because I didn't tell them what was happening.
Yeah, because I didn't want to make a fuss.
And I just thought on Tuesday I said to them in the morning and
register was like, oh by the way, this is my last day for.
Two weeks. I just imagine you at the end of
the day as they're leaving. Bye.
See you. Nothing.
See him? No.
I told them early because I knew they'd have questions and I
don't wanna. I don't like just springing
things on them, like you wanna tell them what's going on ahead
of time. But I also wanted to not have it
hanging over 2 weeks, so just thinking I was going, I was
going whilst I was still building that bond with them.
And yes, I told them in the morning and it's just hilarious
watching their responses and stuff.
But again, it's just like it just showed.
I equally I can't wait to be with my child, but I still
already after four weeks. I'm thinking I want two weeks of
my class. I love that.
Want to be with them, still want to help them out.
Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, I just. I think that was my thing.
And again, anyone out there who's got kids and is a teacher,
it really opened my eyes and I'm going on now because you're
going through the same thing. So I wanna know what you think
is how do you think, where have you gone from the start of your
career? I think we're very similar on
your ideas of like when people would say, oh, I've got kids,
it's not fair. You know, how can I possibly do
this to now where even we don't have children yet.
But I think we've shifted in terms of expectations.
Well, I think, I actually think our opinions were a little bit
different on this. Through our careers, I never
really thought about it as much. It was only you that kind of
made me start thinking of certain things, I guess.
But I certainly know that when we spoke about it years ago, I
can talk about your opinion on anything because your opinion
kind of shaped my opinion. I never really thought about it.
I would preface this with like I think I was wrong.
So I'm sorry, I thought, you know, I don't wanna keep
talking. I want you.
So I never really thought about it, and I've always just kind of
just clarify what we mean. So we're talking about people
who have kids who, you know, might use that as a reason why
stuff hasn't happened, or things can't get done in the same way
we can't do it the same way. Or I know you're all doing this,
but I'm not going to because I've got.
Kids. Easiest analogy is fresh
teachers. We're not early 20s.
No kids like minimal responsibility in life possible.
And we just live and breathe the job because we loved it as well,
more than humanly possible. And and if if we did stuff that
was that was we deemed necessary and good for the job.
If the weekend or afternoon, so evenings or whatever.
And someone else didn't and they had kids and it was like, you
know, I couldn't I couldn't do the planning properly.
This week I've got, you know, my kid out the birthday coming
really late in the morning. You're hoping to do something
and they come in at 8:30 and oh, yeah, so I had to drop my kids
and they were crying out to do this.
I know that the opinion was a little bit like, yeah, it was.
It was your choice to have kids. You need to do the job properly.
Yeah. Which is horrendous.
Like I I never. So again I never went around
saying this but it was my reaction inside to that was yeah
not really relevant. Yeah.
You know, like I was like ohh, you know it's not excuse, you
know, I I got in late again today because my kid was ill or
and I was like I can't get in late though, can I?
Yeah, it's like the smoker thing, isn't it?
Yeah, such a classic analogy, isn't it?
Well, I used to work at Tesco and it was like if you smoke you
get extra breaks which they were allowed to go out for smoke
breaks. Very different.
Raising a child? No, of course.
It was the same feeling of like, well, I don't get that.
Yeah, because I just, I didn't choose not, I didn't choose to
do that thing that you do. So you don't get it either.
Yeah. It's like, well, actually that's
not how life works really is. That's not how society works.
That's like going round to people less fortunate.
I mean, like, well, I don't get those benefits.
So you shouldn't exactly. No.
And I've always been staunch. I know that those things didn't
match. Up.
Explain that because saying against that makes you sound
like no, no, sorry, I've I've always been like always against
when people try to say that for example, benefits, right?
But it's a very common thing and I've had conversations with
people about this where they say a lot of people take advantage
of the benefit system so it's wrong and just stop it.
So my opinion has always been I would rather people get benefits
who need it and some people take the Mick and rinse the system
and we try and stop that than us to say, well some people say the
mix no one gets it. It's always better to make sure
the people who need to get something get it and then try
and amend the rest. Listen, listen, right?
Are we noticing many players weren't in place?
Whilst you weren't doing any plenary we saw that you were sat
down, so all staff you no longer allowed chairs because someone
took advantage of sitting down in class, OK?
Same thing. It's the same thing.
Yeah. And I know I was wrong.
And but I guess my point is, even before, you know, our
children on the horizon, it definitely changed.
It definitely changed. I was more like, yeah, actually,
you know what? Just yeah, you have kids.
You need, you need time to do stuff with your kids, poorly, of
course. You need to take to the doctors.
It's a child. We do need a future generation.
Yeah, exactly. We do need it.
Well, I I chose not to have children.
OK, well, if everyone did that, we would be dead.
And and again, absolutely fine. Yeah, like, I want to make this
really clear. I couldn't care less what you
choose to do, but I think I was wrong to be judgmental.
That's the whole point. In the same way that I think
it's horrible when people are judgmental.
If people who choose not to have kids or people who just can't
have children, I think that's just like, why would you ever
make that a thing to those people that's completely nothing
to do with? You.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Equally so now that you're in
that position, you feel it more than ever.
But your opinions changed, yeah. Yeah.
And I think it's it's swayed and I'm just, I guess the point I'm
making is. You're a Tory now.
The point is, OK, I'll finish it for you there mate.
The point he's making now is he's got a Tory mindset and
because it now benefits him and he's no longer on the other
side, he actually sees the value in it.
Ohh no we no sorry. We should be giving dads all of
the time and pay. God doesn't.
Never thought of it before. It's just happened.
It's a coincidence. Just come to me now.
Wait, I'm not a student now. Shouldn't.
Be free. Ohh.
No, I'm not paying for that. No, no, no, no, no.
When I was a student, was I campaigning for?
Yeah, yeah. Now I'm not.
And I've got 40 grand debt. No, not everyone else gets 40
grand, 40 grand debt. You get 40 grand.
That Paul. Bloody Tory?
No, the point, the overall point I suppose is I think if you have
children and you're working full time, Um, I I just put off my
hat. I doff my hat that I'm not
wearing because Hayden told me, like a soccer path.
Yeah, you do. I just, I just, I don't
understand it. And yeah, that was my worry.
And what what's your overriding thought of having your child?
What's your first thought when it comes to work?
Like are you worried? Are you are you fine?
Are you excited? Do you think it's going to
change like because obviously we're having all these emotions
about, we're about to have a child like that in itself is
enough, but just in the context of.
Back underneath, even though I think because I know how I react
to stuff and you know how I react to stuff, I think I'll get
you have sex with the kid 100%, but I think I'll get really,
really cross any single day. I'm at school and it's gone past
like 430 and I've still got stuff to do.
I will just get so angry and I don't know, I'll be like, I'll
throw my toys out the pram like I always do.
I have a Paddy. I mean, I'm doing it, not doing
it, then not doing it. And I will.
I think I'll be more like that than ever because I'll be like,
I've actually got like a real purpose to get back to you now.
And doing this admin that I think is meaningless.
Is literally just taking time away from me being with my kid
and I think I'll find it. Really, I think I'll get crossed
and and you the stuff you struggle to justify when you
didn't have something to go home.
And look, I know I already makes me a little bit already annoys.
You. Yeah, yeah.
But at least I'm OK, you know? Again, I wanted to clarify
again, listeners from previous episodes, I talked about how I
was starting this year off only doing work from in school.
And that's one of the reasons was if I can do it for four or
five weeks beforehand and it can become manageable and I can work
it out, then I want to continue saying that I I don't want to do
any work at home. Hmm.
Now for the rest of the year, cause my child will be there.
Yeah, I I can't. I can't.
Do it. The idea of sat there on
Saturday morning rather than going out for like a nice stroll
your baby, or reading and doing something.
No, I've got, I've got that math plan done because the 55 hours I
spent at school. Enough.
No. And here's the thing.
We're part time teachers and we're already having these
thoughts and I can't. I just got to constantly go back
to those teachers who've gone back full time and because of
necessity, because of money. And of course it's the cost of
living. Like there is no winner there.
Yeah. And that's why something needs
to fundamentally change, because you're essentially working to
have your child looked after while you're working.
You know what you can do to save a little bit of money across the
maternity leave ladies out there?
Something we talked about back in one of our teen episodes.
We have the lovely Sophie Bartlett on Brilliant who is
like the biggest advocate ever fought shared parental leave and
we're both using it. We are.
And both the first time both of our schools had used it.
Yep. So it just goes to show and it's
fine. It's of course it's fine.
It's a statutory right. So anyone who doesn't know
shared parental leave, the idea is that in I think it's public
sector jobs. So I think it's a government
scheme, I think. Is a government scheme.
Private businesses can do it, but it's available.
It's available openly for government employees and as
teachers we come under that category.
The idea is that because as we know, parental leave is
terrible, it's two weeks, you can share out the mum's parental
leave. So that's why it's called shared
parental leave. So quite often it might happen
that the mum wants to return to work for a month, maybe get a
foot back in the door, get back on the career ladder.
That is so hard for mums to get back onto a bit early and dad
can take some of her leave so that you can just share it out
basically. But the amazing part of shared
parental that even something people still don't understand or
even schools don't really get it, but it's allowed, so they
have to do it, is that you can use shared parental leave but
not share it with your. Partner, you can just share out
your own maternity leave into blocks.
That's the idea. You're just literally sharing
your one continuous maternity leave into.
No longer continuous, it's just blocks.
So I wonder then, because the point being that you return to
work in those blocks. So I wonder if anyone out there
very clever can work out why that's really, really
beneficial, especially if. You're a teacher.
Would a teacher wanna go back to work in the holidays the half
time? So in the half, pretty good.
Yeah, in the half term. So essentially what you can do
as a teacher is and anyone who is thinking of having a child,
or even if you already have the child, it's not too late.
It's eight weeks before your first block.
The point being, you take the higher pay, so you wait until
you're on statutory maternity. When it drops down, that's the
time to start taking your return to work.
You return to work at the start of the holiday and then you
finish work at the end of the holiday.
Now, by law, schools cannot direct you to do stuff they're
not directing everyone else to do.
Essentially, they can't tell you work during the holiday.
Yeah. So you return to work for the
holiday and get full pay because you are technically back at
work. Yeah.
So in our case, we're getting four weeks full pay.
Yep. And then we'll be returning to.
Work by, we mean our partners. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sorry.
Our partners will be returning to work in the last.
Week. We're happy with our full two
weeks, 2 weeks is fine. We'll return to work before just
before the summer holidays and obviously get some holidays
fully paid, so essentially won't be returning to work until
September and we'll get a bonus 10 weeks full pay.
Yeah, and if anyone has a problem with that, go and ask to
teach what they do in the years previous in all of their
holidays. They constantly work for free,
so a little bit of payback doesn't do anything.
It's statutory like, do you know what, Joy is brilliant because
the tables flip. It's so cool because for years
and years you're like we just gotta get done, just get
planning done. Ohh, just having a new scheme
which was going to redo how we do maths and English at the same
time and by the way also the afternoon.
Lesson You're gonna have to work on your weekend.
You gotta get it done. The holidays, I'm sorry, it's
just part of the job. It's in the contract, you know,
doing the Workman. You gotta do the Tasmanian work
deep. Well, guess what?
You can turn around and go, well, you know, it's in the
contract. Yeah, and you can return to work
for your holidays. Guys, do it.
It's gonna give us between US2I reckon close to 10 grand
between. So no, I've made that.
Probably not that much, but yeah, you can do it.
Certainly more. It's for those of you that
aren't in the teaching world, maybe don't know what maternity
leave is like in most public in all public sector jobs is better
than teaching. Obviously the one with mostly
dominated by women has the worst maternity maternity leave.
Just normal. Just have a think if you don't
know, how long do you reckon you get.
Full pay in the civil service 6-6 months.
Six months. OK, Two weeks for teachers.
Full pay 100%. Then it drops down to 90% for
four weeks, and then it drops down to 50%. 12 weeks with
statutory pay, Yeah, for 1218 weeks until you're on statutory,
Yeah, but that's that's four months.
That's disgusting. And it's not even.
Four, and I know, and I don't wanna, you know, turn anyone's
nose up. There are people in much worse
positions in all sorts of private jobs and private sectors
where the maternity pay is terrible for America.
Or America, where they don't value You have lessons in
America. Yeah, they're thinking.
What? You moaning?
Yeah, probably, probably. It's just one of those things.
I think it's important that we always say it's not a race to
the bottom constantly a theme for this podcast.
It's not a race to the bottom if you're in a worse position.
Sorry, sorry to hear about that. Please don't use that as ammo to
make us sound wrong. Something in the same way that
we can't sit here and say civil ferments get six months extra
pay. That was just dreadful.
It's yeah, it's just a fact. Well done.
Great, because our friend, our friend was actually talking
about it and that's I was like, that's good.
Look at this thing we're doing to try and get more as well.
Yeah. It's not.
Everyone above me should get less and everyone less than we
should stop moaning. Yeah, yeah, I'm in the right
place. Yeah, yeah.
But anyway, so yeah, go check out that episode with Sophie
Bartlett. It'll be easy to find on the
podcast list. Dylan, where else can they check
us out? Where can they talk to us?
I'd love you because this is where the Q&A is come from.
I'd love you guys to find us on Instagram.
Teach sleep repeat podcast and you can Gmail us Malcolm.
But really Instagram, that's supposed to be.
That is the place to be. Get Instagram.
We share stories. We share memes.
I've started doing some memes. The meme of you.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Go and find it if you listen to this.
Right. OK.
I'm gonna set them a challenge to see.
Right. This might backfire.
We get no one doing. Yeah.
If you're listening to this right now go to Instagram post.
Find the picture of Hayden with his top hat.
And he's doing this for any listeners.
I'm putting my thinking thinking fingers on my chin.
I want you to go to that post and just comment saying wow,
just wow. Just that's it in that.
Context, I reckon. Can I bet take a bet right now?
Yeah, I reckon it two people would do it 22.
So if two people have already done it, please do it.
So Hayden's wrong. Yeah, yeah, just put.
Wow, two people. OK, And if not, don't worry
because the post will be deleted because it doesn't get
interaction. So don't worry about it if you
don't like it. I don't like it anyway.
Before, before we do like Q&A and stuff, can I quickly just
talk about a post I saw online is a really quick conversation.
It's interesting because we were going to do a short episode this
week, guys. We got stuff to sort out.
Yeah, And so I saw this post and there's one quote from it which
we'll get to. I want to just see what you
think it said today. I was called into it, so that's
ruined. That's fine, OK?
Just look at it, OK? They didn't know you ruined it.
Now I couldn't see it. Today I was called into a
meeting after a learning walk where I was told I'm not good at
managing children's behaviour and other things.
I was given A5 targets support plan.
The adviser said that I have no presence in the class and I
should become someone that the children should be almost scared
of. Fire that person and it's a
reception class I hate. What you thinking?
I hate it, you know, when I get passionate about.
The kids? Or do I?
No, because I really do. Because I think we're in such a
privileged position as teachers where we get to impact these
children and be such a safe hub for them.
And I want, I want the children every single day to come into
school and enjoy. Themselves.
You're a natural, aren't you? What do you mean?
Like they're just naturally scared of you in a.
Class. It's a natural well, the awful
thing. Thank you.
No, I am so passionate about children feeling happy and
secure and liked because you don't know what they get home.
No, you don't know. This might be their one thing
they can cling on to and you're that you're that opportunity for
them to get it. And I take that so seriously.
Like I want these kids to be so safe and and I want every single
minute in the classroom to be enjoyable and if they don't like
maths then it's my job to try and make them like maths but
they don't like writing. It's my job to try and make it
enjoyable. They've still got to do it, but
I'm going to do my best to make sure they enjoy being in the
room. The idea of kids being scared of
me makes me feel horrendous. Yeah, if a child was actually
scared of me, I'd consider quitting because I'm not doing
my job properly. You don't need to be scared.
I got some bad news. I'm really sorry to say this
live on the podcast. I think you might have a
resignation. Half my class are terrified.
Because you've been teaching Ohh.
Wait, that's because I've described you as a horrible
logo. And they know they love because
they come up to me, you know, I I just, I wanna be that safe
place that that person. They enjoy being around.
This is just utter rubbish. I bet it was a bloke in a suit.
I wasn't talking about 10 years. Yeah, who's stereotyping now?
Yeah, me. OK, that works.
What about you? Don't worry.
Suit though. Hate it?
I don't know about you teachers listening as well, but I forgot
what to say. You interrupted me twice, and I
forgotten. Oh, there's a moment,
interrupted it when you did a serious thing.
Actually the kids are scared of you.
So very good. But I always go out of my way.
I know you do this, but I always go out of my way.
To yourself now. Always got on my way to tell a
kid that I really like him as a human being, and I always try
and give a specific reason why. I do all I try to do every
single day. Particularly when you see those
children look a little bit insecure, they look like they've
had a fall out with friends or something.
And it could be something as simple as I think you really
conscientious. I think you listen really
nicely. Yeah, I I I think that you're,
you know, you're such a nice person to be around because you
don't you don't judge anyone. Yeah, I'm thinking of those
quiet kids and it's nice. It's such a nice if.
I'm sure you do it your teachers, but if you haven't
done in a while, do it tomorrow and or Monday because you listen
to this on Friday maybe and just look at it.
Just look at that little smile. It's just so sweet.
I did it today. It's OK because I actually felt
bad because they were in trouble because they had, they had
messed around in class yesterday and I told them if I worked not
to a certain standard because of this, then they're doing it
again. It was terrible.
It was dreadful. And then listen to anything.
So I called off on it. You can't have empty threats.
And I was like, cool, hey, go lunchtime, do it all again.
Off you go. And they sat there sulking,
really annoying. And in the end I was like, I
don't actually like being mean. No.
But they got lion. Yeah, that they learn.
And then I was like, do you realise like, I think you're
really cool kid and there was all smiles.
I I think you're really cool. Like, I really like, you know,
you've got such a great personality.
You're really intelligent, which is why I get so cross at you.
But you got to understand that my in my job, I've got to hold
you accountable and just doing that little bit.
And at the end he was like thank you and then ran off sort of
happy and the next day. That's right.
Steven likes me. I'll get it.
Next day, Parent, come up to me. Why are you telling my kids?
Don't tell, don't tell my kids. That's what the man was today,
wasn't it? What's that?
The one. Ohh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I laughed so much. Yeah, I I I was like, I saw it.
I was like, this is perfect. The mean frame.
No. Come on, Comment.
Wow. Go and read it.
It's funny. If you laughed, comment while
paternity leave. First thing he's done paternity
leave. Yeah.
At 7 minutes past 9:00 this morning and I was like, there we
go, sorry, sorry, lunchtime. Ohh was hilarious.
Anyway, moving on winds me up. Don't be someone the kids are
scared of. You don't need to do that to get
results. You can build relationships with
the children that are positive from the start.
You get more out of them, you'll enjoy your life more.
You're not constantly moaning at 7 year olds because you're a
grown up person. You don't need to be doing that.
If you feel like you need to be doing that, you obviously quite
insecure about something. Just get over it.
Be nice to the kids. They're just kids.
You can teach them properly. Come on.
Come on, guys. Let's do it.
Let's be nice to the kids. The reception They're babies.
If a teacher this is already already.
I'm like if a teacher. Marky.
Marky Mark. You don't know until you back.
I'm never gonna be the parent. I'm not gonna be the.
Parent I'm not. My kid came home and told me
actually that they didn't throw a bogey at so and so.
Because I saw it with my eyes, actually, and it hit me in the
face. Yeah, no, he would not do that
because my kids said. And he doesn't lie.
He lied when he said that. Those experiences do stick with
you though. I bogeys when you haven't had it
many times in my career. I did a couple of years ago.
Parents. Overwhelmingly positive, by the
way. Yeah, I still think.
But a couple of years ago, I did have one.
What exactly. Like that, the complete
stereotype. Someone coming up to me and this
kid, I'd literally heard him swear a couple of times and I
pulled them aside. Like, no, that's not, you know,
getting. No, I didn't like you literally
did because I just, I heard you with my own ears do it.
And then a bunch of other kids came up to me and said you did
it again like 10 minutes later. And then yeah parent comes
storming over this. This dad hmm.
And just was so rude to me. So rude.
And then just point blank and said no, my so and so name
wouldn't ever do that. She doesn't do that.
She does not swear. She's not a swearer.
It's like, well she did though. No, no she didn't.
And then honestly, he just like rudely stormed off and then
yeah, she wasn't she think trouble.
I was like, what is going? On I hate that you got to stick
by it. We're not out to get kids.
No, just hold them accountable. Sorry, but they did.
Yeah. If I ever turn into that parent,
you can give me a whack, right? Honestly, yeah, just give me
whack. Anyway, should we finish off
this episode with our Q&A? Yeah, go on.
All right. Right.
OK ready for the Q&A? Yes.
OK. It's there's a brand, we've
never done this before. I saw Kate languages podcast.
If anyone follows Kate languages in the education world, really
cool account. Like cuz I don't know anything
about languages. I feel really weak when it comes
to teaching languages and language in general.
Go and have a listen she's great.
Hope you get the podcast at some point.
Would be really cool. And by the way, also, if anyone
messaged me about coming on the podcast and I've replied saying
yes, hopefully now you know why these things are crazy.
You've been? Delaying we we we've
specifically not had guests on because we just don't know
what's gonna happen when when we're back into our routine.
We all got guests and there are some amazing ones coming up.
So about 18 years we should be. Probably for the season 22
episode 4 we're gonna get Kate Languages on.
But yeah she's great going get her follow anyway.
Q&A Never done this before on our socials Instagram followers.
We wanna get on board with this. 31 some crazy ones.
I'm gonna mix them up. OK, question number one.
I asked for anything. By the way, question number one,
what is Hayden's hair care routine?
Laughing emoji? Emoji.
I don't even. This is from by the way.
This is from the person who bought you those gifts that,
yeah, brilliant, you know, I've got about.
Ah, yeah, yeah, there's Secret Santa.
And you got a comb and some shampoo.
Ohh wow alright funny bones. It was funny then, and it's
funny, yeah. Genuinely though, what is your
hair care routine? Because I seem to remember in an
earlier podcast episode you actually shocked me by saying
you use shampoo and that cut. No, that can't be right because
that's like that's like someone who has, doesn't have a beard
using beard oil. Stop, stop.
Right. If you're looking, if you're
watching because obviously you talk us through, our customers
have to watch. Obviously you'll notice the top
bit, little bit bold sides though.
Plenty of hair The Monk. Plenty of hair Got monk haircut.
However right are you shampoo everyday?
Come on, talk us through step by step.
What's your hair care routine? OK, jump in, shower.
First thing I do is shampoo. I always let it shampoo.
Before you clean your body. Yeah, first thing.
Top down, Top down. Yeah, no, I just think I clean
my body and finish repair. There's lots about you, Sharon.
Where does shower on the world? I've seen it.
Let's not go there. There's no question about my
showering, so let's go back to shampoo.
Listen, shampoo on my head. Greasy head, OK?
You got greasy hair. I get greasy.
Scalp shampoo. Makes it feel nice and clean and
that's it. OK.
Next one hair dryer as well. Oh yeah, brilliant.
I do just need to. That was that was one step too
far. Honestly, you could just whip
out the window. You get dry and it's nice.
It's dry immediately. OK.
Next one. Yeah, best takeaway.
Um ohh. What?
You go first. There's only one answer.
Well, there's two answers. OK, there's one.
Of course there is. I know.
There's one, like, there's one like to me, there are tears of
takeaway. Yeah, Takeaway.
And then and then takeaway. Takeaway.
OK, So what both. What's your takeaway?
As in fast food or fast food? Fast food, They're all rubbish.
They they're all honest. I think I prefer KFC.
To all of them, yeah. Really.
Yeah. It's just like for like a
greasy, fast, disgusting meal. Just, yeah, Maccas is pretty
good. Like the chips?
What's your go to order for McDonald's?
I've no, I don't have one. Really.
I don't have one do. You one of them weird people who
actually get different stuff? Yeah, 'cause I usually do it,
yeah. Let us know that's gonna be a
poll this week. Yeah.
Do you get the same thing every week for take away?
Because my friends have constantly took the Mick out of
me for this my whole life that I get one thing and one thing.
Yeah, it's a solid 8 out of 10. I'm not gonna risk a four out of
10 for maybe go from an 8 to 9. It's not worth it.
It's an 8 out of 10 every week After three I think we should
say like nice because I. Know it's gonna be so poorly
Coleman's gonna be from 123 Indian.
Ohh yeah, of an Indian takeaway. What is your Indian order?
Because this is a thing again, does change?
Does. Change what's your go to right.
I always get. I always get some like a chicken
something and sometimes that. Changes.
That's narrowed it down. Hang on, because something quite
spicy like I'm a draught kind of heat, right?
But I might change what this source actually is by always
with that get every time and Bombay potatoes every single
time. And if someone's getting a rice,
always steal a bit, never want to get a whole one.
I know, this is Miffy meme, right?
Yeah, don't touch my rice. Yeah, a little bit.
Right. You got no cause I ordered one.
But my my girlfriend taught me a couple of years ago.
She was she didn't get right and I was like, what's wrong with
you? Why you not getting rid of your
Curry? She was like, it's really
stodgy, feels you have no flavour and I just replace it
with Bombay potatoes. And I was like, that's so
stupid. Did it.
And I was like, this is amazing because I get to the same level
of thoughtfulness. I haven't eaten any rice and
it's all been way tastier, so rice is replaced with potatoes.
That's a good point. Do you reckon you could tell me
my order for Indian? I reckon I could.
You can't even remember your name, so this is gonna be good.
It's gonna be a good test, I reckon Sir Robert can tell you.
I reckon you get mostly you do Trump sometimes change but
mostly your chicken. Chicken Madras is your go to 1.
Would be laughing right now like chicken Madras.
You do get a rice. Yeah.
I feel like unless you're convinced they get a different
rice sometimes you are. You'll just get out, right?
Yeah, and you usually get a garlic naan.
It's moved. It was garlic.
Nan about I got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was garlic. And I was like, Nope.
And then I tried yours and I was like, yeah, now I know.
Now I know. That's like your staple isn't.
It got chicken Madras. Paradise Push right on.
Yeah. And if we're with like a table,
we might get large or something. Like the balloon?
Yeah, What we doing? We're getting a Kingfisher.
We're not gonna have that for a while, are we?
Yeah, Ohh man. Indian takeaway banging in.
OK, next one a classroom must have.
I thought this is like a really good question right straight
away for me because it's just like my holy thing, my clicker.
Ohh yeah, I cannot teach without my clicker.
Explain cause click it to me just sounds like literally, I
hate being strapped to the board.
Don't you know, it's like you got quite a lot of slides to go
through and so you have to be near it.
And then what ends up happening is you're consciously,
subconsciously aware. You have to change the light.
You just stand there like a lemon next to the next to the
board. I hate it.
I like moving around and it's a good way to see if they're
listening because it will move with you.
So I've bought literally a very, very simple arrow clicker.
So it just says left and right on.
It has a laser pointer on it as well.
If you want to just point something, you're further away.
It's the best best tool ever, can't live without.
It and you can get one in affiliate link where we only get
£5 per purchase. Find it now and the buyer
branding on the back. That's all right.
Yeah. No.
Yeah. Clicker definitely got the
thing. No.
I used to have a clicker, but obviously lost it.
No. You got a thing you can't live
without. Have you got a clicker?
My thing would be a sense of humour.
Ohh yeah yeah, it's get one of them.
And I'm not even joking because I think it would be serious.
From a David Brent, Yeah, I'm actually, I think mine's sense
of humour. Yeah.
Being likeable. Getting the children to, you
know engage. Yeah, that's number one.
I think being a good teacher. Yes, I do.
It's probably my number one skill number.
Skill not a party trick, is it? Knowledge not a party trick.
You know, I don't have a, like a thing.
I suppose my number one is, is go home at half four if you've
done a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't, actually. I don't think I have one.
Didn't see anyone have a kid and gone maternity.
Yeah, could be. That's probably.
Should I? Yeah, mine is doing that a month
later. Yeah, when I go back, yeah mate,
yeah, God, honestly. Between us, we run maths in our
school and we were just having nightmares about imagining
Ofsted coming at any point in the next two months when one of
us is just. I would hate it.
I genuinely would be behind us. And it wouldn't be your fault.
No, no. Yeah, but I'd also.
Annoyingly be annoyed. Yeah, because I don't want like,
it's our thing anyway. It's not gonna be no.
This this question I thought a really good question.
I'm gonna finish on this one. OK, and what were your honest
first impressions of each other? Hot 10 I don't know.
I think it was just all positive.
I I didn't. I definitely didn't have any
negative impressions of you. That's good.
So we OK, so because that's going to end there.
Ohh delete delete delete. No, not at all, I thought.
You were funny. Let's do it 22.
Let's do 2, right? OK, First, do you remember your
first impression when at school? Because we knew at school.
No, no, I don't remember at. School.
I only remember my impression of your group of friends and I
thought they're weird and we still.
Are no matter where we're going to play Destiny and defeat the
White witch the wicked side of Mars.
Well, you yours is more like a cool.
You were like that cool. Not really.
No, you. But you weren't like, yeah,
there's different groups and there's kids.
Not very. I think we were like The
Inbetweeners. Yeah, basically like not, you
know, but fairly normal in terms of like you did quite
stereotypical wispy blokey boy group things or as I was not
like that at all really. You were like, you were the
Minecraft. Yeah, basically Runescape.
Yeah, exactly. We were just gamers, but.
All of your mates are really cool and that's the thing about
clicks. At school, you just grow up and
we're still friends. That's the nice thing.
I don't know you're exactly the same, but I think my first
impression of you at school was. So this is this is when do you
mean at school or when when we work together?
Working in schools. Working in school.
When when we first met cause you.
I was on my my first year teaching.
He was on his training. Yeah.
I'm I think I remember just thinking you're really like
minded and like easy to hang out with and I remember that being
oh that's nice. Like I made a friend quite.
Quickly. That was nice for me coming in
and again. Made made good friends with a
lot of female teachers. Not the kind of person to be
like all these women. Like I thought it was brilliant,
brilliant professionals. Got with all of them.
But there is just something about having that companion
who's male and who's similar age to you.
Yeah, there was just something about that, yeah.
Specifically to you because you you're you're you're close group
of friends is like a bit of a boy group.
So it is understandable that yeah, it.
Was nice. Just related more quickly.
I think still had those good relationships with people, but
our first kiss was magical. I actually remember the day you
came in once you shaved your hair off.
And I'm really, I'm heartbroken. Yeah, I was like, ohh, he's he's
now. He's not.
He's not mine. Do you know his heart was
broken? Who's your girlfriends?
When I came with my head shaved, she thought it was stupid, like
we went to the same school. That's down here, yeah.
And I and I said I was going to do it.
She was like don't do that. Ohh thanks.
I've got to. I am.
I am literally balding. Sorry, don't do that.
Like, put your head down like you see the island in the middle
of my She was like, yeah, you look stupid.
I was like, brilliant. Haven't got a choice.
Yeah, she's clarified since. I know.
I like winding up though. It's funny, I like wine dinner.
Up. Why not?
But you do look crazy at first. It wasn't.
Yeah. Did you do it?
I saw holidays. That's the best time today.
I don't know. It wasn't, it wasn't the best
time today because I had a tan on my face.
OK, you're gonna shave your head out.
Blokes off women, whoever, shaving their head.
Do it in the winter when you're Gene is a little bit more like
the tone of your skin is like ohh, it's gonna be the same.
Ohh, man. Yeah, yeah.
OK. My first question of you was
probably how am I gonna milk this guy?
Make a business or what? Now my first impression was like
I was really thankful that. It almost felt immediately like
I didn't have to. Everyone does this.
Let's be honest. We all put on a bit of an act.
Yeah, we all put on a bit of act.
Like this podcast. You listen to episode one and
listen to this one, you'll see the act in episode one because
we were obviously a bit of like putting up a front.
And your guard comes down after time.
And the more comfortable we were in a place or the more
comfortable you are with the people around you, the guard
comes down. And you know, at that point I
felt like I I could quickly put my guard down and just be very
honest and normal and myself. And because there's no way that
I would be making those sounds, I make one one of my.
Favourite randomly. I I will just we're gonna wrap
it up. But one of my favourite things
of my experience with you in general right over the years is
when we're together and we are then speaking to a third party
that's not like one of our close friends and watching Dylan go
into acting mode because we all do it.
Like you said, you know we got the electrician around suddenly
you and your shorts alright bro and like and you start dog and
trying to trying to fit. In mate I tried to put that
electrics back in. Yeah I know.
I noticed the fuse box. Was the fuse box was fusing or
something like? That pipe, mate, that pipe got
no electricity running, Yeah, Nothing leaking, Nothing
leaking. Yeah, we will do it.
And Dylan is just the best because he's just Oh well.
Do you mean the best at doing it all?
No, no. Ironically, ironically, the
worst at doing it. So.
So it's the best to watch. Like most people are quite
seamless. Like you think it's just that
personality dinners like ohh, well I'm just so you know, I'm
acting and actually yes I do. I do speak like this all the
time and it's just so funny because you can see how
different it is in real life. And then he comes behind the
scenes and starts going. And then I try to shower.
Out the window. One day we're gonna tell you why
the idea of dealing having a shower.
Is funny. That's gonna be the new glue
stick thing. Yeah, the shower story is told
that story. There's no that was just that
was a hook back in season one. It worked.
I couldn't believe how it worked.
People working, they got annoyed.
What is the glue? We've gone too long.
We've made this up. Yeah, one day.
But. Yeah, I struggle.
I struggle to put on. I feel like I put a mask
sometimes. You know, people have autism
talk about masking. Yeah.
And they laughing. Why laugh?
Yeah. So I just think of you.
I know. But there's like traits and
stuff from like I hate this. I really wanna wrap this up.
Why talk about this now? But I hate when people just say
they've got a condition or something and they're not
diagnosed ADHD ADHD. It's like you might do and this
is the problem because and This is why I always.
Just treat people as if they do, because again, it's like the
benefit thing. Yeah, there'll be some people
who say they were ADHD and they literally have ADHD.
There was some people say ADHD and they're just a bit rude but
you know cause but but then it's their way of just like
justifying their rude behaviour. But then there's someone else.
I know people with ADHD who are so lovely, but they have ADHD
and therefore things present differently.
And so my blanket thing now is I treat everyone who says that
they have like they do because the thought of just saying
someone doesn't who does, yeah, it's horrendous and we need to
be as inclusive as possible. But then, but then I remember
myself, I'm like, yeah, I've got I like look at my childhood and
stuff and I'm a teacher now and I look at children and I'm like,
ohh, I do have autism. Like I just do.
You know what you said. I'm not laughing at you having
autism. I know.
I'm like, ah, that's me and in so many situations and it's
crazy. It's crazy realising that you've
got something like that. And again, the reason why so
many people are trapped is because it will take four years
to get a diagnosis. You can't do anything about it
and it's not going to change. So I don't, I don't care about
getting one, but I'm like and people around me are told me
which is convinced me even more like, yeah, I.
Definitely do, but I think, I guess that goes back.
I don't want to say any of this, obviously for you is your thing
to say, but. The that's what's funny about
watching you mask because yeah cause you try so hard to act a
certain way and then but I know you a more personal level and
I'm like ohh, that's nothing. I'll watch you in a social
situation and be like that is not Dylan he is really just
putting on an act right now to come and tiring, tiring when you
stop. It's like in social situations
it's like people say they're introverted and stuff and they
all that energy is sapped from being around people.
I love being around my mates and stuff, and I don't mind being
around people. If you listen to me, like in
meetings and stuff, I'm the first one to voice my opinion.
Yeah, and stuff like that. But it's because in my head I'm
like, Nah, because we have to say this because this does not
make sense. Yeah, like, I feel like I've got
to clarify this. You do get very quick to be
angry or anything that's not. That's not.
Yeah. Yeah.
If I don't understand. So true.
Yeah. If it's not.
And but I can switch off for children.
Yeah. Because I'm like, whatever, it's
a child. I'm gonna teach you.
If you don't understand something, I'm gonna teach you.
It's absolutely fine. Well, it's an adult saying
something completely illogical, which is like in one breath
saying that workloads too high. In the second breath saying that
you need to do all this stuff. Hmm.
I can't not say anything. I'm like those two.
Those two sentences don't go together.
Yeah. Yeah.
I I need to tell you this. Most people would be like, well,
I know they don't, but crack on no, no, no, that doesn't make
sense. Can we.
Sorry, can we clarify? Do you want us to do that or
not? Then?
Because you said we don't have to mark this stuff.
But now you're saying that it's bad, that there's no marking in
there. So which of the two things is
this? Because people won't know what
to do. And I don't.
And I'm going to pretend it's for everyone, but really it's
for me, because I need to know exactly what's going on.
Do you remember when we did like, an autism test for you?
I'm laughing because it's me. Yeah, it was like as if we
didn't know what the result was going to be.
We both did it wasn't it and IQ test.
No I could cause I've done an IQ test right ohh and it was loads
of intelligences and it was like memory vocabulary, sure spatial
maths, like all these things on like just spider diagrams where
they go out the more you get and you tend to have strengths and
weaknesses. Yeah, and again, not blowing my
own trumpet, but. Smashed it, smashed it.
Absolutely smashed all the like all the stuff which doesn't
matter about being human. Like yes, this shape would come
next and this number would come next and actually that means the
opposite. And this random knowledge and
this logic And one of the spider, right?
I was in the top, I was in the top between 1900% for all of
them apart from one where I was in the bottom 5%.
And it was emotional intelligence.
And it was simply they they showed you two faces of people
and they said click the sad one, click the angry one, click the.
And I was in the bottom 5% despite the wheel looked mental.
It was a full circle. And then one spike in.
Yeah. And I was like, ohh, OK.
I can't understand emotion. Just like, I can't believe it.
Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, well, one day we should
dive into it more at some point. I don't want people to think
we're flippantly just chucking around.
Diagnosis. No, not at all.
It's it's through teaching and seeing it and understanding it,
and I've had conversations with people around.
Me a lot of people, to be fair. You talk to a lot of people.
It's not like it's just me confirming something because the
one thing I would not want to do is just flippantly say it.
Because again, firstly, it's not an excuse for anything because
it it's my thing, yeah, I need to live.
With it, you never use it. You never you barely have
mentioned we found. Surprised you've mentioned it
here because I don't think would be.
You ever talked about? No.
But again, I just think it's interesting and I think people
out there who are feeling the same way, you know, just look
into it and it doesn't have to become a thing.
You can just have ways of coping with it and being honest and
frank with your friends about it.
But it's definitely a thing. And it's played on my mind
because I then think, if I got a diagnosis, I'm thinking, what
would change? And really the only thing I
think would change for me would be people might view me
differently. Yeah.
So I'm like, OK, cool. It's not worth it for me then.
Yeah, like, what's the point? Yeah, really.
Yeah, and people might think I'm a bit weird or quirky or
whatever, but that's fine. I'm not.
I'm not bothered about an official thing.
So that's why. Because I might be wrong.
I might have these traits. Classified as a state or
anything. Yeah, what have you got?
Yeah, I've got a toy now. Spin it.
That's weird. Yeah.
Anyway, I'm going to be a dad. This episode was.
I'm really sorry. This is the weirdest episode
ever. I got delayed today.
We got deep. Yeah, talk about some stuff.
Yeah. And we probably won't be here
next week. Probably not.
He's gonna be a dad next week, literally next week.
And yeah, thanks for the Q&A, guys.
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