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So I said that's where I keep my
Pritt sticks. 

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Dylan from teach like repeat. 
You're so silly. 

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Ohh Hey there. 
Ohh. 

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Didn't see you guys. 
Welcome back to another episode.

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I'll teach you. 
Repeat, my name is. 

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Dylan, we know that my name is. 
Hayden. 

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My name is Hayden, my name is 
Dylan. 

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Where's one of us? 
Somewhere here. 

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Have you noticed how obviously 
we've talked about before when 

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we're in school constantly, 
people got names mixed up 

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because we're usually the only 
two blokes and we just come as a

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pair. 
So someone walk up to me and 

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say, have you seen Dylan? 
Yeah, you. 

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Have 5050? 
Well done. 

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Right here. 
But then I was thinking about, 

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you know, like Brad and Angelina
when when together in the media,

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that Brangelina. 
Yeah. 

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And I've thought before about 
what our name would be. 

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And and it turns out if we 
joined dinner then Hayden we get

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Dylan. 
Or if we do the other way 

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around, we get Hayden. 
Wow, what a couple name. 

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Yeah, I know. 
Ohh. 

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So that's my thought for the day
is if we were to ever be a 

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couple and the media were to 
pick us up. 

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So it's two things that probably
will never happen. 

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Well. 
One of them. 

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When the Sun again, Yeah. 
And also with our partners 

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names, they're Lauren and 
Lauren. 

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So if you join them, that'd be 
Lauren and Lauren. 

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Ohh, nothing would change. 
Anyway, we start recording, 

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yeah. 
Crap. 

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We press record a minute ago. 
You've been here this whole 

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time. 
Anyway, lovely to see you guys. 

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For us it was half time this 
week. 

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Again, a big thing. 
I didn't know this. 

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I thought the half terms were 
quite rigid. 

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Loads of people are on half 
term. 

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Till next. 
Week. 

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Yeah, I know. 
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for having a break from work. 
Sorry. 

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You you naive petal. 
They're not really weird, isn't?

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It so how's your week been there
because it has been half time. 

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It's been busy. 
Isn't it obviously the whole 

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theme of this this episode is 
about burnout and stuff, so 

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don't give too much away. 
We've got our top tips on the 

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way burning out, baby. 
Are you burning out, baby? 

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What's your what's been busy, 
isn't it? 

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Yeah, you know this because to 
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business of this week has been 
because we've had a massive like

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overhaul of our website which is
taking up lots of. 

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Quick recap for anyone who 
doesn't know Hayden and I, we do

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work part time in a school, but 
we also run our own tutoring 

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business outside of that, which 
has grown nicely over the years 

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and something we enjoy doing and
we put a lot of our time to that

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as well. 
So what's happened then this 

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week as if I don't know well 
website. 

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Would you like? 
I'm playing the role of the 

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audience? 
But what do you mean Hayden? 

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He probably doesn't. 
Please be quick because I 

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couldn't care less. 
I've clicked on this for burnout

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I don't care about. 
Having changed the layout of a 

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big chunk of our website, yeah, 
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So that's been done. 
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whole time I've been thinking. 
I do have loads of work to do 

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for school as well, though 
there's a planning to sort out 

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and I've just been pushing it 
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Still haven't done it, 
obviously. 

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Listen to this on Monday. 
We're back at school. 

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It's Friday when we're when 
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I've still not done it, but 
we'll see. 

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Because we can't really complain
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stuff in our time. 
There's nothing as half time. 

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Anyone out there who's teaching 
a lot of teachers do like a side

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thing, whether it is a bit of 
tutoring. 

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Yeah, I know some people do 
crafts and things and sell 

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those. 
You know there's no such thing 

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as time off when you're 
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But you know, it's kind of 
frustrating isn't it? 

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When you think we get to the 
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and recoup. 
I can concentrate on my 

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business. 
Ohh. 

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But also I've got 8 hours of 
planning to do and it doesn't. 

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It doesn't annoy me because I 
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are doing it from a good place. 
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when people say stop it, stop 
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break. 
You just turn off and have a 

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break. 
OK, well there be nothing to 

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teach when I get back home. 
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I've got a massive chunk of 
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in the first week and I'm like, 
even if it feels like the second

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week, I'd honestly probably just
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I'll do it when I'm back at 
work, man. 

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But yeah, I've been putting it 
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It was quite funny the other 
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When I finally down to do it, I 
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excuses. 
On website was pretty much done.

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There was a few like bug fixes 
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Stuff our friend Harvey was just
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Stuff, yeah. 
And he he's been developing it 

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for us with his company Vision 
Tank and. 

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They're great honour. 
That brilliant. 

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That's amazing job. 
Check out our website. 

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Www.topdogonline.co.uk. 
It's really cool and give us 

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some feedback. 
Anyway, we do actually teach and

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stuff as well. 
We're not just sit and chat and 

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bitch about stuff, we actually 
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We do stuff. 
But I finally sat down and I 

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thought, I've got to do this 
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Now I do. 
I really don't want to do it. 

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And Harvey rang me. 
I was like, have you got, can 

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you jump on. 
We've got. 

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We've got. 
Do I just got a few things on 

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for like, yes, yes, I can. 
Absolutely I can. 

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I can do that for as long as you
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All day, all day. 
Baby. 

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I don't do any planning. 
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Is weird, isn't it? 
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I got planning to do. 
It's hard. 

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Do you feel bad though then 
about you? 

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Because obviously Lauren, are 
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say Lauren singular. 
Lauren just encompass all that. 

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That's their couple name. 
Yeah, so Lauren. 

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And do we need a couple name for
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Her. 
Error. 

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I just felt bad because I was 
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We're supposed to be doing nice 
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working all day everyday. 
Yeah, probably rubbish, but 

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other than that, how's your? 
Nursery been terrible. 

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Yeah, nursery. 
She's good. 

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It's all decorated. 
It's got carpet now, not seen 

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it. 
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it's like a changing thing on 
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underneath. 
I don't know what that's called 

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a changing console. 
I don't know. 

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The crib is done, although it 
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I'm really struggling with the 
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own room soon is I know it's 
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seen a lot of stuff lately about
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culture for thinking that kids 
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quickly. 
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And you know the six month thing
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Rory's 4 1/2 months now and I'm 
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seem like enough time for us to 
then let go of him and him being

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his own room. 
I don't see a problem with him 

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staying in our room because he's
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Doesn't wake me up. 
Yeah. 

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No, but he, I don't know. 
There's something both of us are

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a bit like. 
Ohh wait, he's still in your 

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room at 4 1/2 months? 
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Yeah. 
Ohh God River was in her own 

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room by 8. 
Days Oh my We're. 

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Comparing. 
I'll tell you what I know. 

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I know we've had this 
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But if. 
You don't have it. 

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No, no, no. 
These guys need to know if your 

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parents, if you ever see any any
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TikTok, whatever about babies 
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comments section. 
They're just people are just so 

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horrible. 
Yeah, so horrible all the time. 

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Just nothing's. 
Right. 

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What do you mean you play with 
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Your child will become dependent
on play then, and they'll be 

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happy. 
Yeah, I watch a video sometimes 

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and be like, oh, that's a nice 
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Let's just check the comments 
for validity. 

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Yeah. 
No, always. 

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Ohh. 
I didn't. 

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I didn't do that. 
Oh, you shouldn't do that until 

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this time. 
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Did you know that has this 
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Ohh my. 
God. 

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And also there's every single 
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There'll be someone saying it's 
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someone else saying it's the 
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saying you could do if you want.
Don't really make a difference. 

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Oh my God, just let me crack. 
On I'm yet to find a single 

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video related to like something 
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that's actually just got 
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like, Oh yeah, this is really. 
Good I've I've seen there's been

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like a shift, I think, from 
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who I've seen lately there might
be like a dad on there playing 

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with their daughter where 
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rough play because the whole 
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dad's and are more likely to 
rough play of their son than 

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their daughter. 
But rough play is really 

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beneficial for everyone. 
When I say rough play, it means 

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like, you know, throwing them 
onto a beanbag and stuff like 

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that, a bit silly. 
And so there might be like a dad

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doing it with their daughter. 
And obviously the classic 

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comments to your to your 
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Do you know what kind of a thing
that's gonna have a really bad 

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effect when they grow up and 
they know men can throw them 

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around. 
It's like, ohh my ohh, my 

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goodness me playing. 
No. 

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But what I see now is a switch 
where there's comments and 

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they're just completely 
satirical and they'll start off 

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with that, but they're just 
joking. 

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Like you shouldn't do that with 
your daughter because they grew 

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up loving you and having a 
really. 

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Nice song band, yeah. 
Completely like, like sarcastic.

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You get baited and I'm angry. 
I'm reading the first sentence, 

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ready to reply to that. 
No, this is. 

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This is wrong. 
You're being stupid, and 

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actually they're just. 
Like, yeah, you know what? 

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Crack on. 
You know your kid rather than 

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anyone. 
Before I had kids. 

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I def. 
I'll be really honest. 

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I turned my nose up sometimes to
people who said stuff like that.

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Right. 
And like if someone said, you 

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know your baby better than 
anyone, Mama, if a doctor says 

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this, then you should be doing 
that Mama. 

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Everything's Mama at the end. 
Yeah, you you know, you Mama and

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I would definitely be like, ohh,
shut up the doctor. 

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It's a doctor. 
Of course I know. 

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Well, having gone through a 
pregnancy, well not personally, 

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but having gone through 
pregnancy with partner, having 

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the whole birth process. 
And since then ohh my they are 

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right. 
Though there is a whole bunch of

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stuff where I'm like, hmm, the 
Mama does know best. 

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The Mama does. 
Know and there's certain things 

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where doctors have said stuff to
us and it sounds great. 

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And at the time we've taken as 
gospel. 

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Now doctors said this, so we and
actually, no, they were wrong. 

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They were just wrong. 
Like what's best for each person

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is different. 
So what are you saying? 

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Because the start of that 
sentence was yeah, the doctors 

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was always. 
Right. 

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No, no, no. 
I'm saying. 

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I'm saying it's changed. 
I'm saying I used to be like 

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that. 
I used to, I used to turn my 

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nose up. 
Of course I used to turn my nose

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up to people who said Mama knows
best doctor isn't always right. 

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But it's changed. 
Yeah, Since having a baby, I'm 

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like, no, there is certain 
stuff, actually where you are. 

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You just do you, and the baby's 
gonna be. 

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Fine. 
Well, look, let's talk about 

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doctors for a second. 
Ohh. 

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This is funny because, again, 
we've had a similar experience, 

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haven't we? 
We're at the same doctor's 

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surgery. 
Hey, and I'm gonna lay 

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foundations of this because, you
know, the state of doctor's 

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surgeries in general. 
We'll get on to that. 

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I had a really good. 
Experience with my doctors. 

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First time ever. 
Yeah, and you had a terrible one

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at the same doctors. 
Time in the same week. 

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So why are you so annoyed? 
Potluck, by the way, that's my 

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my right now. 
Anyone in the UK, like hopefully

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you're gonna vent with me 
because I imagine it's the same 

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everywhere. 
The system is so broken. 

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We talk about the teaching 
system being broken. 

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It's not as broken as the GP 
system. 

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It's unreal how you can't get an
appointment anymore. 

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So our surgery and please, 
please tell me if this is normal

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because I don't think it is. 
And it might just be our surgery

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opens at 8:00 physically, 
physically opens at 8:00. 

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And the only way you can get an 
appointment is booking it same 

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day. 
So you can't book an appointment

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under any circumstance ever. 
In our doctors for a for a 

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different day. 
That's a normal day. 

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That's normal mental straight 
away. 

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That annoys me so much, right. 
Opens at 8:00. 

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They don't open their phone 
lines until 8:30. 

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Yeah, So what they're what 
they're saying is basically the 

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majority of the appointments 
will be gone by 8:30 because 

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people are doctors. 
And I did this two days, two 

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days ago for two days in a row 
because I can't get an 

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appointment queue up from 7:30 
just to get there. 

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To be front is like the Apple 
Store and has a new iPhone 

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releasing. 
A new iPhone. 

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It's healthcare. 
It's healthcare that I'm paying 

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into constantly. 
Every month. 

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Yeah, we just line up and if 
you're lucky you get an 

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appointment. 
So I lined up the first day, got

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all the way to the front of the 
queue after about 2025. 

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Yes, it's probably about the 
15th in the queue thinking I'm 

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probably gonna get an 
appointment. 

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You know, you'd hope so. 
And got there. 

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She was like, ohh yeah, doctor's
not in. 

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I was like, ohh is she not? 
That's that's classic timing, 

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isn't it? 
Ohh. 

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So annoyed thinking I can't 
God's sake. 

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But these people probably get a 
constant abuse. 

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I was. 
I'm not going to be that guy 

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that gets annoyed. 
It's a receptionist. 

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Like what? 
It's not their fault. 

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Is it? 
They didn't create the. 

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System was like, ohh, OK, So 
what does she work? 

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And they was like ohh every 
other day apart from today. 

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Oh oh classic. 
That isn't it. 

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I finally get down there and not
here. 

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He's like, OK, she sorry. 
And she was like, yeah, yeah, 

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yeah, yeah. 
OK. 

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She got any appointments? 
She was like, yes, I was like, 

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can I have one? 
He's like, no, of course not. 

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I know this system's broken. 
That's fine. 

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What can I do? 
She was like, well, come back in

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the morning. 
She's got a few appointments. 

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And I was thinking, well, none 
of them can be booked today. 

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No one could book those 
appointments because it's not 

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tomorrow. 
Yeah. 

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So it should be fine as long as 
I get here the same time. 

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Went back the next day, queued 
up again Saturday, half an hour.

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I got to the end of Q. 
Same lady. 

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I was like, oh, it's me again. 
Came here yesterday trying to 

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see this doctor. 
You said she's got some points. 

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Can I see her today? 
Ohh, I've not got. 

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Not got any appointments? 
Actually not. 

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Ah, OK and right. 
It's just OK OK what? 

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How do I get an appointment? 
Cause yesterday I came and you 

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said she's got some appointments
today and I've come again and 

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she's not got any. 
Like a normal person. 

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I work in the hours at this 
doctor. 

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Surgery is open. 
So what do? 

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I do. 
You got half time. 

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You got every single day of 
half. 

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Hours. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, literally. 

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And in the end, she was like, 
well, she's got some phone 

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appointments later, I think. 
You know what would be better 

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when she's on the phone to me? 
Could I just be there instead in

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front of her? 
That might. 

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Work, Joe? 
Well, I'll bring my phone. 

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Ohh, sit in this lobby and then 
when she's done I'll walk round.

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I'll just pop on. 
I'll answer, I'll Hello. 

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Yeah, funny enough, I'm. 
Are you free? 

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You are because you're on the 
phone to me. 

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You are free. 
Brilliant. 

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I'll come in. 
And and in the end. 

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So she phoned me. 
I waited all day because they 

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say yeah, well, phone at some 
point 8:00 AM, right? 

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They rang up at 4:15. 
So I'd weighed all day just like

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not really doing anything. 
And the only plans I had were at

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4:30 that day. 
I did nothing all day other than

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wait for the appointment. 
I had A and I was meeting my 

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cousin to play some snooker. 
Something I haven't done in 

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years. 
And I'll be really nice. 

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Corpus four. 
She rings. 

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I was like, ohh, typical. 
She was like, yeah, you want to 

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quickly come in now thinking, 
ohh, I do, I really do. 

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I've also got an appointment, 
something else to do. 

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But I'm going to come in because
I'm not missing this came in she

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didn't know what the problem. 
Was sorry she she invited you in

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anyway. 
Yeah, after about 20 seconds of 

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talking, I was like, yeah, it's 
kind of, it's kind of one of 

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those things you need to see. 
Really. 

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Yeah. 
Because. 

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Oh my But you need to see to 
check this. 

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Yeah, both of us. 
It was like a skin thing, right?

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Yeah. 
We're not afraid of that. 

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It's just a skin thing. 
Nothing terrible. 

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But just somewhere, like, can 
you just look at that? 

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Yeah. 
Because I just wanna know that 

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I'm OK. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Well, in any way, she didn't. 

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Really. 
Know you wanna take my 

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experience? 
Yeah, because this is the exact 

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same doctors and this is gonna 
highlight how mad it is. 

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I phoned them in the morning at 
8:00 and they said it's closed, 

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but I'm fairly sure it opens at 
8. 

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Found out the whole thing. 
Actually the lines open at half 

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eight. 
I was like, fine, that's a good 

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half an hour of a pub is being 
booked up. 

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But fine. 
So I called at half eight. 

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Gotta make sure you time it 
right. 

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I called at 29 minutes past 8 
knowing there's some jargon. 

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I was like, I'm playing the game
here cause by the time you get 

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through, there's been a lot of 
abuse to our people. 

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That won't be tolerated. 
If there's any other way of 

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checking out your ailment 
instead of coming to a GP 

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surgery, which you pay for by 
the way, but you can't ever get,

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why don't you try that out 
instead? 

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Call 111 and stay on hold for 
seven hours and they can check 

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your mole. 
No, they can't. 

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It's a phone call. 
I want you to look at my mole. 

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So anyway, go for all that 
jargon gets past half eight in 

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the lines open. 
I go, you are #9 in the nine 

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00:14:38,030 --> 00:14:40,060
who's got ahead of me. 
I called it 29. 

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Anyway, I'm nine in the queue, 
so I'm waiting and I'm like, I'm

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giving myself up for a mini 
argument. 

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Like I'm not gonna be horrible 
to them, but I just wanna make 

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sure that my message gets across
because it's classic with all 

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big companies and it's now with 
GP's as well. 

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The people who set the system 
make sure someone else takes the

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flak. 
Some person on minimum wage, 

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probably. 
Is out the front, Yeah. 

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So it winds me up. 
But I also want them to know 

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it's broken. 
So I know that there's the 

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system since COVID, by the way, 
which has just stayed. 

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Which is another annoying thing,
that the first port of call for 

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whatever you do at our doctors 
is a phone call. 

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Umm. 
And I'm straight away. 

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I'm like, OK, cool. 
I need someone to check out 

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three moles, so a phone call 
does nothing for me. 

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00:15:18,270 --> 00:15:19,140
So hey. 
Yeah. 

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What you after? 
I wanted to check my mails, 

395
00:15:21,290 --> 00:15:22,280
please. 
Oh, do you wanna come in? 

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00:15:22,290 --> 00:15:23,920
Yes. 
Of course I do. 

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00:15:23,930 --> 00:15:25,150
Let me just look over the phone 
for. 

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You can you describe the mole? 
Well, it's quite Molly. 

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00:15:28,890 --> 00:15:31,120
It looks like every other mole 
I've ever seen. 

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And and yeah, it looks it maybe 
it looks so different, which is 

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why I went to look at it. 
So I can't describe it. 

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00:15:36,970 --> 00:15:39,660
Anyway, so I'm ready for this. 
I'm like, I'm always geed up a 

403
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bit. 
And I was like, so it gets 

404
00:15:40,860 --> 00:15:42,860
through. 
It's like, hey, how can I help 

405
00:15:42,940 --> 00:15:43,540
you? 
Hello. 

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I was just hoping to get some 
moles checked, please. 

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00:15:46,130 --> 00:15:48,400
And that's all I said, yeah. 
And I was because I was waiting 

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for them to be like, well, OK 
with this. 

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No did. 
And she went, yeah, OK, I've got

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half 10 today and oh. 
Yeah. 

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00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,570
Thank you, good Madam. 
Ohh yeah I'm really angry. 

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For some reason I will. 
I will take that half ten. 

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And she was like, cool. 
That's all booked in. 

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See you then was OK, cool. 
So I went in. 

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Yep, got there at 25 past 
checked in. 

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Got called immediately. 
So I was in there at 28 past. 

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Wasn't even my doctor. 
My doctor was busy. 

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I was with. 
It wasn't even a doctor when you

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got the appointment. 
It was in the car park at Tesco 

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actually. 
It was really weird. 

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Went in, showed my moles 
immediately, at ease in terms of

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he was just so calm and 
explained everything. 

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Saw the Marie went, he said some
random Latin word. 

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Ohh, that's a that's a Mollica 
Spartacus. 

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And I was like, OK. 
I was like, oh, that's fine, 

426
00:16:37,730 --> 00:16:38,900
yeah. 
And then I had another one 

427
00:16:38,910 --> 00:16:41,010
because I've got on my hairline.
So, no. 

428
00:16:41,050 --> 00:16:42,800
Sorry, Sir. 
That's that's your nipple. 

429
00:16:43,770 --> 00:16:44,970
Sorry. 
OK, sorry. 

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00:16:44,980 --> 00:16:47,030
I've been really there. 
What about this other mole? 

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00:16:47,730 --> 00:16:49,090
Well, so I have to tell you 
that's. 

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00:16:51,020 --> 00:16:59,440
And this one, That's your penis.
Thank you Doctor. 

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I was so worried this week, 
coming out of my mouth. 

434
00:17:05,630 --> 00:17:07,980
It is leaking. 
That's milk. 

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00:17:10,020 --> 00:17:11,810
The other ones, well, that's 
that is a problem. 

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00:17:12,780 --> 00:17:16,130
That's not what you think. 
But you do need to get that 

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checked out. 
Oh my God. 

438
00:17:19,650 --> 00:17:22,420
Anyway, I was. 
I was at home by 10:37. 

439
00:17:22,530 --> 00:17:24,420
Yeah, and Lauren thought I'd 
forgotten something. 

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So completely mad. 
Two completely different things.

441
00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,730
It's nice you had a good 
experience. 

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00:17:30,740 --> 00:17:32,320
I'm glad that, to be fair, I 
was. 

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When I did go the first time, I 
was offered an appointment of a 

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different doctor. 
But with this thing, I was very 

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surprised. 
Like my doctor very specifically

446
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requested me to get an 
appointment to come and see her,

447
00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:45,010
to check up on this thing. 
Yeah and I was like alright 

448
00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,650
thanks. 
But I do need to see this 

449
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doctor. 
She was like oh oh can't so I 

450
00:17:50,030 --> 00:17:52,490
don't know but back to the 
overall point, what are your 

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doctors like? 
Please no have a vent because I 

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I cant event about doctors. 
It annoys me so much and I'm. 

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00:17:57,950 --> 00:17:59,910
Going to stick up for GP 
receptionist right now because 

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actually they're they're they've
been lovely. 

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They've been lovely hard job and
they're they're lovely. 

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They must get a lot of abuse. 
Yeah, I I really don't want 

457
00:18:07,870 --> 00:18:10,160
anything directed towards them 
in terms of it's not their 

458
00:18:10,170 --> 00:18:11,450
fault, it's a horrible. 
It's not their fault. 

459
00:18:11,460 --> 00:18:12,520
It's not the doctor's fault 
either. 

460
00:18:12,530 --> 00:18:14,470
No, it's really clear. 
Yeah, I am not annoyed at 

461
00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,390
doctors anyway. 
I'm really, really annoyed at 

462
00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,250
the system. 
The. 

463
00:18:18,300 --> 00:18:20,050
Government Ohh is it the 
government? 

464
00:18:20,060 --> 00:18:21,230
Is it? 
I wonder if it's sort of 

465
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,880
underfunding. 
Because is it that thing where 

466
00:18:22,890 --> 00:18:25,750
every single graph and piece of 
data that you've ever seen from 

467
00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,410
2010 has just got considerably 
worse? 

468
00:18:27,420 --> 00:18:30,010
Yeah, Wasn't that thing where we
turned 18 in 2010? 

469
00:18:30,020 --> 00:18:31,880
Eleven. 
And ever since we've been an 

470
00:18:31,890 --> 00:18:34,190
adult, life for adults have got 
considerably worse. 

471
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,640
Consistently, in every single 
way, every single way possible. 

472
00:18:36,650 --> 00:18:37,520
The country's got. 
Poorer. 

473
00:18:37,530 --> 00:18:38,660
Sorry. 
Got general election this year? 

474
00:18:38,670 --> 00:18:40,230
Yeah. 
Ohh yeah, but do you remember 

475
00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,610
what Labour did back in the 
early 2000s? 

476
00:18:42,620 --> 00:18:48,160
They made the museums free. 
OK honestly yeah God what was it

477
00:18:48,170 --> 00:18:49,410
recently? 
I thought I can't remember what 

478
00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:51,620
it was but the the overarching 
point is more important. 

479
00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,060
Someone was moaning about 
something. 

480
00:18:53,070 --> 00:18:55,000
It was like a Question Time sure
programme. 

481
00:18:55,370 --> 00:18:58,140
Someone was moaning about 
something and they're saying 

482
00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:59,880
yeah this policy is rubbish. 
This policy is rubbish. 

483
00:18:59,950 --> 00:19:02,750
And then someone else came back 
and I thought they were like do 

484
00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,440
you know who bought that policy 
in That was Labour in like 2000 

485
00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:09,300
and whatever and and I was like 
ohh kind of done it because it 

486
00:19:09,310 --> 00:19:11,930
was a labour policy and then the
person immediately reply was 

487
00:19:11,940 --> 00:19:14,270
like yeah cool toys had 14 years
to sort out. 

488
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,450
Why haven't they sorted? 
It out. 

489
00:19:15,530 --> 00:19:17,570
There's nothing now. 
That's why they're completely 

490
00:19:17,580 --> 00:19:19,030
screwed. 
Yeah, because there is nothing 

491
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,350
now. 
Because after like 14 years and 

492
00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:25,190
75 prime ministers like and and 
they try and reinvent themselves

493
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,490
every time. 
There's nothing left now where 

494
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,460
if it's wrong, it's not. 
They've not even had the chance 

495
00:19:29,470 --> 00:19:30,250
to fix it. 
Yeah. 

496
00:19:30,260 --> 00:19:32,430
Or they've completely. 
It's been too long now. 

497
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,790
You can't. 
They can't keep blaming Labour. 

498
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:35,870
Stop it. 
Stop. 

499
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,050
It. 
And you know, you don't have to 

500
00:19:37,060 --> 00:19:38,510
like Labour. 
You don't even have to vote for 

501
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,410
Labour. 
No, you don't. 

502
00:19:39,420 --> 00:19:42,490
You don't need to like whatever 
you want to do it. 

503
00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:43,940
Actually, it's fine. 
Do you know what? 

504
00:19:43,950 --> 00:19:45,310
I've got my reservations about 
Labour. 

505
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,110
Yeah, I don't. 
Really. 

506
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,650
Yeah, absolutely. 
So this isn't a pro labour 

507
00:19:48,660 --> 00:19:50,300
thing. 
This is quite simply that when a

508
00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:53,870
government's been in charge for 
14 years and stuff is awful, you

509
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,640
can't point and blame at anyone 
else. 

510
00:19:55,650 --> 00:19:58,180
Yeah, so vote for whoever you 
want to vote for, but do not 

511
00:19:58,190 --> 00:20:00,910
blame someone other than this 
government for what this 

512
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,710
government of managed to do in 
the last 15 years. 

513
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,570
Yeah, or Dylan will get you. 
I'll get you anyway. 

514
00:20:06,740 --> 00:20:07,650
Right. 
Thanks for that vent. 

515
00:20:07,660 --> 00:20:08,730
I needed that vent. 
That's good. 

516
00:20:08,780 --> 00:20:10,840
I needed that vent. 
The listeners sure didn't. 

517
00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:13,090
They've all turned off. 
What are you here for? 

518
00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:16,890
Ohh yeah, burnout. 
Not from listening to this 

519
00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:20,620
should give us hope. 
Give our top tips then, Aiden. 

520
00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:23,530
Yeah, I like, I like how we're 
slowly starting to like do like 

521
00:20:23,540 --> 00:20:25,630
software works a little more 
now, more confident. 

522
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,910
You last week was that the week 
of bloody. 

523
00:20:27,980 --> 00:20:29,890
Yeah. 
You were like, oh, these bloody.

524
00:20:29,900 --> 00:20:31,230
Things. 
When you say soft swear words, 

525
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,570
are you referencing the fact 
I've said the F word three times

526
00:20:33,580 --> 00:20:34,850
you? 
Have to just say that you might 

527
00:20:34,860 --> 00:20:36,860
have noticed a cut if you're 
watching, probably listening. 

528
00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:38,290
We probably cut it so you didn't
hear it. 

529
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,420
But yeah, Dylan keeps Dylan keep
saying there. 

530
00:20:40,430 --> 00:20:42,870
For you, really quick story 
about the F word, not really. 

531
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,480
OK, I'm joking. 
I'm joking. 

532
00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:48,650
No, I'll take the end to listen 
for. 

533
00:20:48,660 --> 00:20:51,000
I'll take a quick story about. 
Tell me at the end when we play 

534
00:20:51,010 --> 00:20:52,250
a game, because I've got a game.
For real? 

535
00:20:52,260 --> 00:20:55,200
So we can have a nice serious 
chat game and then an F word 

536
00:20:55,210 --> 00:20:56,120
story. 
Ready. 

537
00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:57,520
Let's do it. 
Let's cut. 

538
00:21:00,130 --> 00:21:01,200
OK, You ready? 
Hating. 

539
00:21:01,930 --> 00:21:02,960
You ready? 
Yes. 

540
00:21:02,970 --> 00:21:03,560
Yeah. 
OK, good. 

541
00:21:03,570 --> 00:21:05,970
Because Hayden said let's go. 
And then took a drink that a 

542
00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:09,040
stretch and sorted this top out.
So we're ready now. 

543
00:21:09,050 --> 00:21:09,900
Hello. 
Hang on. 

544
00:21:10,550 --> 00:21:11,260
Yeah. 
Brilliant. 

545
00:21:11,730 --> 00:21:12,090
OK. 
Yeah. 

546
00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:14,390
You look good now. 
That top was looking not inflate

547
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,020
until you did that. 
And now it looks great. 

548
00:21:16,030 --> 00:21:20,890
So that was really useful. 
You did that roughly anyway. 

549
00:21:20,900 --> 00:21:24,930
They're never on fleek. 
Your hairlines on fleek anyway. 

550
00:21:25,020 --> 00:21:29,040
My hairline is fleeting away. 
That was me. 

551
00:21:29,450 --> 00:21:31,480
Anyway, you've kept on this 
because guess what, we're 

552
00:21:31,490 --> 00:21:35,400
halfway through the school year.
This half term marks the halfway

553
00:21:35,410 --> 00:21:36,780
point. 
Yay, yay. 

554
00:21:36,790 --> 00:21:40,380
And it means that we've got just
what we've done so far left 

555
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:42,290
again until the end of the year 
and we get that lovely summer 

556
00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:43,940
holiday. 
The definition of half there. 

557
00:21:45,130 --> 00:21:49,000
Didn't know half of it, you 
know, So I thought it'd be a 

558
00:21:49,010 --> 00:21:53,030
really good point now to talk 
about burnout because for me 

559
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,600
personally, I think getting 
through the 1st 2 terms is 

560
00:21:55,610 --> 00:21:57,080
tough. 
You get to Christmas. 

561
00:21:57,310 --> 00:22:01,150
After that, settling back in can
be tricky, but you kind of you 

562
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,570
get through that and it can kind
of hit you now like Ohh, I do 

563
00:22:04,580 --> 00:22:07,590
have three more times left and 
these tend to be, especially at 

564
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,170
the end for some at last summer 
time, a really long one. 

565
00:22:10,220 --> 00:22:13,360
So if you're starting to feel 
already quite burnt out doing 

566
00:22:13,370 --> 00:22:17,980
the job there, there are things 
we have to do to stop that, 

567
00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:20,200
because it's you can only get 
worse from this point if you're 

568
00:22:20,210 --> 00:22:22,660
having problem. 
We've been for those years of 

569
00:22:22,670 --> 00:22:25,980
total, total, utter burnout and 
we've come out the other end, I 

570
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:29,020
think because we said before 
this but didn't we were like, do

571
00:22:29,030 --> 00:22:30,680
you feel as burned out as you 
used to feel? 

572
00:22:31,310 --> 00:22:33,500
Part of that is obviously due to
part time, but we do still work 

573
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:35,680
on those other days as well in 
our own stuff. 

574
00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:37,330
But I don't. 
I don't, and I haven't done for 

575
00:22:37,340 --> 00:22:40,830
a few years and I don't feel as 
burnt out as I used to feel in 

576
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,800
the day. 
And I think it's really 

577
00:22:42,810 --> 00:22:44,620
important for teachers to 
understand is, and I guess this 

578
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:46,840
episode is. 
Changed more at less experienced

579
00:22:46,850 --> 00:22:49,230
teachers who kind of feel that 
burn out and don't know what to 

580
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,840
do, but also more experienced 
staff who who is still 

581
00:22:51,850 --> 00:22:54,370
struggling with burnout, but 
also just to see, you know, am I

582
00:22:54,380 --> 00:22:56,990
doing these things, These things
I can help because a lot of this

583
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,630
stuff comes with experience. 
That we're about to talk about, 

584
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,670
and you will definitely have 
your own ideas as well, and I'd 

585
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,450
love to hear. 
Them because what helps you 

586
00:23:04,460 --> 00:23:06,910
avoid burnout? 
But we still see so many staff 

587
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,420
say, I am just completely burned
out, I am doing way too much. 

588
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,050
And although a lot of that can 
be down to the school you work 

589
00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:17,170
for, it can be down to policies,
can be down to what management 

590
00:23:17,180 --> 00:23:20,010
expect from you. 
There is always a chunk of that 

591
00:23:20,020 --> 00:23:23,060
burnout which is under your 
control, and I think taking back

592
00:23:23,070 --> 00:23:26,300
control of that and empowering 
teachers is really important. 

593
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:29,320
So we're gonna go through right 
now, we've got three top tips 

594
00:23:29,330 --> 00:23:33,680
each on how to battle and tackle
that burnout. 

595
00:23:33,690 --> 00:23:35,140
How can you actually help 
yourself? 

596
00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:38,520
What can you do which is almost 
irrelevant to the external? 

597
00:23:38,530 --> 00:23:40,570
Factors we've not, we've not 
shared our points with each 

598
00:23:40,580 --> 00:23:41,670
other. 
So I just want to ask you now to

599
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,110
make sure on the same page, are 
your three things things that 

600
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,890
you have done, things that 
you've done over the years and 

601
00:23:47,900 --> 00:23:48,730
experience? 
Yes. 

602
00:23:48,740 --> 00:23:52,110
Because I I know that we've had 
a few before where we've given 

603
00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:55,010
advice out and we've said even 
we could do with taking this 

604
00:23:55,020 --> 00:23:56,030
advice ourselves. 
Yeah. 

605
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,430
So that that's, you know, that's
useful advice, of course. 

606
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,890
But this is real advice. 
This is, this is something. 

607
00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:03,070
Now you're listening to teachers
who have been teaching for nine 

608
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,890
years and eight years and have 
gone through the mill and these 

609
00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:08,830
are things that genuinely worked
for us. 

610
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,970
So yeah, do you know what? 
I also moved to school. 

611
00:24:12,340 --> 00:24:15,790
So I was feeling burned out. 
If there's if there's just too 

612
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,490
much going on, that's out of 
your control, the ultimate thing

613
00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:20,690
is to try somewhere else, 
because there are different 

614
00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:23,460
schools are different amounts. 
Of the rules should be if they 

615
00:24:23,470 --> 00:24:26,270
hear these six points, Yeah. 
And think I wouldn't be able to 

616
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,260
do, let's say, three or more of 
them because my school would 

617
00:24:30,270 --> 00:24:31,350
block it. 
Yeah. 

618
00:24:31,580 --> 00:24:34,180
Then maybe, yeah, maybe you're 
in one of those sort of toxic 

619
00:24:34,190 --> 00:24:36,190
schools, because I think we 
could do all six of these and it

620
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:36,870
would be a. 
Problem. 

621
00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:38,650
Yeah, completely. 
I don't know what yours are, but

622
00:24:38,660 --> 00:24:41,620
I can say. 
I think, I think it's just gotta

623
00:24:41,630 --> 00:24:44,650
be it's about realistic and some
of this does require you to just

624
00:24:45,060 --> 00:24:48,060
take that step and kind of say 
no sometimes, but we'll get 

625
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:49,530
into. 
That anyway you gonna start. 

626
00:24:49,540 --> 00:24:52,670
I'll start. 
So my first tip, well, we'll do 

627
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,890
this. 
We'll just give the tips out. 

628
00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:56,360
We'll have a discussion. 
See if we both do them and how 

629
00:24:56,370 --> 00:24:57,720
helpful they might be. 
OK, sounds good. 

630
00:24:57,730 --> 00:25:03,480
So my first tip #1. 
This is something I see a lot of

631
00:25:03,490 --> 00:25:06,500
staff do. 
Top tip #1, to avoid buying out.

632
00:25:06,550 --> 00:25:10,520
Check that you're actually 
following school policy and do 

633
00:25:10,530 --> 00:25:13,980
not go above and beyond where 
you don't have to. 

634
00:25:14,030 --> 00:25:17,640
Now that's controversial because
above and beyond, we hear this 

635
00:25:17,650 --> 00:25:19,500
thing all the time about 
teachings of vocation. 

636
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:21,030
We go above and beyond for those
kids. 

637
00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:25,150
All of the kind of airy fairy 
stuff where you make those 

638
00:25:25,230 --> 00:25:27,470
fantastic connections with the 
children, which can't really be 

639
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,380
written in the policy. 
That's not what I'm talking 

640
00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:31,400
about. 
Yeah, I'm specifically talking 

641
00:25:31,410 --> 00:25:33,960
about policies. 
Where you've got marking 

642
00:25:33,970 --> 00:25:37,550
policies, you've got planning 
policies, you've got policies 

643
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,910
around what you're expected to 
do as a teacher. 

644
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,580
Yeah, Yeah, you've got to follow
them. 

645
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:45,290
So the example I've got here, 
for example, 1:00, I've got an 

646
00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:46,440
example as well. 
And I want to hear your. 

647
00:25:46,450 --> 00:25:48,060
Yes. 
So my one is marking. 

648
00:25:48,190 --> 00:25:50,090
Mine is different. 
OK, so I've got a few examples. 

649
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,500
Obviously you can come in as 
well, so I want to get across 

650
00:25:52,510 --> 00:25:55,110
what I mean here. 
When I say marking, we know we 

651
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:57,170
have to mark. 
We can have a whole discussion 

652
00:25:57,180 --> 00:25:59,680
about how useful written 
feedback is. 

653
00:25:59,770 --> 00:26:01,380
I don't think it's very useful 
at all. 

654
00:26:01,450 --> 00:26:04,080
However, I see a lot of staff 
doing this and I've seen it in 

655
00:26:04,090 --> 00:26:08,610
schools worked out myself. 
Where you know, are you 

656
00:26:08,620 --> 00:26:12,850
following the policy are policy 
for writing is very stripped 

657
00:26:12,860 --> 00:26:16,050
back. 
When we give feedback, you can 

658
00:26:16,060 --> 00:26:20,250
just give it in single words. 
You can just say use your next 

659
00:26:20,260 --> 00:26:22,210
steps down or whatever you want 
to do, or just write down 

660
00:26:22,220 --> 00:26:25,160
conjunctions, what you don't 
need to do for every single 

661
00:26:25,170 --> 00:26:26,520
person. 
And you might find yourself 

662
00:26:26,530 --> 00:26:28,410
doing this because I did when I 
was an input and I was an 

663
00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,570
experienced teacher, I'd write 
in someone's book. 

664
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,210
You have used conjunctions 
beautifully in this piece of 

665
00:26:33,220 --> 00:26:35,350
writing. 
Next time, why don't you think 

666
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,900
about adding some extra detail 
using parentheses? 

667
00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:41,220
And actually your school policy 
at the time marking policy was 

668
00:26:41,230 --> 00:26:43,100
you don't need to do that. 
You can just put this little 

669
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:46,020
symbol that we've made-up that 
means that exactly and this one 

670
00:26:46,030 --> 00:26:47,460
word exactly. 
So let's do that. 

671
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:48,600
Just follow the policy. 
Yeah. 

672
00:26:48,610 --> 00:26:51,000
Look at your marking policy. 
Do you have to write down a 

673
00:26:51,010 --> 00:26:52,440
paragraph for every piece of 
work? 

674
00:26:52,510 --> 00:26:54,700
It might be that you do, and 
that's a separate conversation. 

675
00:26:54,770 --> 00:26:57,580
But for a lot of people, 
actually, ohh, it's just nice to

676
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:59,540
write in for the kids. 
They can't read it. 

677
00:26:59,550 --> 00:27:01,230
They don't know. 
It's not affecting their 

678
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,680
learning at all. 
Have a priority list there. 

679
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:05,440
Am I actually following the 
policy? 

680
00:27:05,450 --> 00:27:05,930
Yeah. 
Nice. 

681
00:27:05,940 --> 00:27:06,540
What's your? 
One. 

682
00:27:06,550 --> 00:27:07,900
I've got one. 
Very different, actually. 

683
00:27:07,910 --> 00:27:10,780
Totally different thing avenue, 
I guess of thinking. 

684
00:27:10,790 --> 00:27:13,380
But when I started teaching, 
yeah, I very much thought it 

685
00:27:13,390 --> 00:27:16,730
wasn't above and beyond thing. 
Yeah, at break times to go out 

686
00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:19,620
and sort of like mingle with the
kids and like, yeah, be with 

687
00:27:19,630 --> 00:27:22,190
them like more than just my one.
I had one break duty a week and 

688
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,560
a lot of schools. 
I like that you might have more,

689
00:27:24,170 --> 00:27:26,490
and yeah, but I'd often find 
myself going out, sometimes even

690
00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:28,270
at lunchtime. 
For a little love me, love me. 

691
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,280
Yeah, in a way. 
But I also, I also had in the 

692
00:27:30,290 --> 00:27:31,880
back of my mind. 
This looks good. 

693
00:27:31,930 --> 00:27:33,120
Yeah. 
You know the school are going to

694
00:27:33,130 --> 00:27:35,260
think, oh look at that teacher. 
He's going above and beyond to 

695
00:27:35,270 --> 00:27:38,100
make bonds of his kids. 
I didn't need to do that, 

696
00:27:38,110 --> 00:27:38,800
actually. 
Really. 

697
00:27:38,810 --> 00:27:40,510
I just. 
I then just gave myself more 

698
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,140
markings to the end of the day 
and just extended my day. 

699
00:27:43,150 --> 00:27:45,390
I could have just not. 
So I stopped that after a while.

700
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,730
I almost never go out now unless
it's my break duty because I'm 

701
00:27:47,740 --> 00:27:49,700
like, no, this is my time. 
I need to get other stuff done. 

702
00:27:49,770 --> 00:27:51,290
I have to. 
Yeah, because otherwise it goes 

703
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:52,800
somewhere else. 
And that's what I mean by above 

704
00:27:52,810 --> 00:27:55,120
and beyond. 
I don't mean in the classic time

705
00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:58,160
of like making those amazing 
bonding policy was the policy 

706
00:27:58,170 --> 00:27:59,410
one break juicy. 
Exactly. 

707
00:27:59,420 --> 00:28:02,760
So just just just do 11 break. 
Another big one that I see of a 

708
00:28:02,770 --> 00:28:05,790
lot of people who say ohh, I'm 
just really struggling with 

709
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,500
burnout. 
And I'll say to ohh yeah, don't 

710
00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:11,580
you do a club after school? 
Yeah, yeah, do do. 

711
00:28:11,630 --> 00:28:13,420
Is that policy? 
Do we have to do a club? 

712
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:16,960
No, but it's just for the kids 
I'm afraid Guys, at some point 

713
00:28:17,030 --> 00:28:19,900
you have to look after yourself 
if you are feeling really burnt 

714
00:28:19,910 --> 00:28:21,530
out. 
That's one of the first things 

715
00:28:21,540 --> 00:28:23,830
that has to go if you do an 
after school club or a lunchtime

716
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,740
club and you're not being 
compensated for it and it pushes

717
00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:29,070
your marking down the line and 
it means you stay in school. 

718
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,850
You don't have to. 
Do it and you don't have to do 

719
00:28:30,860 --> 00:28:32,600
it. 
It's one of those decisions 

720
00:28:32,610 --> 00:28:35,170
where I know deep down in our 
hearts, cause we're all 

721
00:28:35,180 --> 00:28:37,840
teachers, we love helping the 
children and we love these kind 

722
00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:41,110
of enrichment activities. 
We can't take that load when 

723
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,150
they're not funded properly. 
We can't be the people to take 

724
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,360
on that extra thing. 
If there's other stuff you have 

725
00:28:46,370 --> 00:28:49,070
to do and you're feeling burnt 
out, look at your policies. 

726
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,070
Do you have to be doing 
everything you're doing? 

727
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,710
Can you skim on some time by 
simply following the policy and 

728
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,010
doing a good job? 
I think a big thing we're going 

729
00:28:57,020 --> 00:29:00,020
to have in this chat, Hayden, is
redefining what it means to do 

730
00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:02,680
your job well. 
Yeah, it does not mean that you 

731
00:29:02,690 --> 00:29:06,060
have to live up to this 
Instagram or until an amazing 

732
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:07,940
team. 
No, you can do a really good. 

733
00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:10,740
Job, but just following your 
school policies, teaching the 

734
00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:12,900
kids well, and I think that's 
what this point is. 

735
00:29:12,910 --> 00:29:15,770
Do you think back in the 90s 
that some of the teachers were 

736
00:29:15,780 --> 00:29:18,990
good at their job, Fantastic. 
They worked considerably less 

737
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,550
hours than we did and they were 
still good if we all agree on 

738
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,710
that, but there were some good 
teachers back then. 

739
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,290
We didn't have PPA back in our 
day. 

740
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:27,000
Yeah, you didn't have to find 
everything. 

741
00:29:27,010 --> 00:29:28,790
Right. 
If we do think the definition of

742
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,890
been a good teacher is doing all
this above and beyond stuff, and

743
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:32,290
it does make you a better 
teacher. 

744
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:33,500
Yeah. 
What we're saying is that every 

745
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:35,650
teacher that didn't used to do 
that basically more than two 

746
00:29:35,660 --> 00:29:37,340
decades ago was terrible. 
And it's like, no, they were. 

747
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:38,440
They were terrible. 
They were, really. 

748
00:29:38,450 --> 00:29:40,230
Good, not at all. 
And I think the last one here 

749
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,560
it's going to lead in because a 
bit of a for our listeners here 

750
00:29:44,570 --> 00:29:46,990
we've I know the theme of 
Hayden, so I can order them. 

751
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,290
Hayden has no idea what I've 
written down, but this kind of 

752
00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:51,290
leads into your one. 
So the last point I'll make and 

753
00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:52,450
then you go into your second 
one. 

754
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,450
Another policy is to do with 
planning. 

755
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,210
Do you have a scheme? 
Can you use it? 

756
00:29:57,220 --> 00:29:58,580
Is there planning that already 
exists? 

757
00:29:58,590 --> 00:30:00,240
Is there stuff on the area that 
you can use? 

758
00:30:00,250 --> 00:30:03,390
Yeah, Don't reinvent the wheel. 
Follow your policies. 

759
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,780
So that's my #1 tip. 
Look at your policies. 

760
00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:08,420
Refresh your brain. 
Are you following them? 

761
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:11,060
Are you doing too much when you 
simply don't have to? 

762
00:30:11,070 --> 00:30:12,400
It's an easy way. 
Nice. 

763
00:30:12,410 --> 00:30:16,700
Well, tip #2 on avoiding burnout
nicely links on from tip #1 Drop

764
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:21,040
the pride, Drop the pride, and 
use resources from other people.

765
00:30:21,270 --> 00:30:24,490
Just do it OK. 
Sometimes they haven't used the 

766
00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:27,230
font that I like or I like to 
put boxes around these things on

767
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,290
my notebooks. 
This worksheet, when I trim it, 

768
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:32,820
doesn't have. 
I like to put the boxes around 

769
00:30:32,830 --> 00:30:34,490
this bit on the worksheet so it 
fits nicely. 

770
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,250
Do you know what? 
You don't have to change it. 

771
00:30:37,260 --> 00:30:40,150
You don't have to. 
I promise you a week later 

772
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,570
you'll forget about it. 
The kids won't have ever known 

773
00:30:42,580 --> 00:30:45,650
any different anyway, and as 
long as I get the same out of, 

774
00:30:45,660 --> 00:30:47,850
it doesn't really matter. 
Does it really matter? 

775
00:30:47,860 --> 00:30:51,330
I used to spend so much time, 
and I know you did as well 

776
00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:54,710
because we used to plan together
back in our NQT days. 

777
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,480
Almost became a competition we 
could. 

778
00:30:57,490 --> 00:30:59,990
Spend so much time on our white 
notebooks and a lot of that time

779
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,770
really was just just the 
positioning of stuff. 

780
00:31:02,780 --> 00:31:04,870
Format green and the formatting.
And I want to put a box. 

781
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,210
I want to get this nice little 
tip box. 

782
00:31:06,220 --> 00:31:07,390
In the box. 
But do you remember? 

783
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,720
Because we we used to spend ages
planning, right? 

784
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,570
And we'd get to the end of 
making our smart and our our 

785
00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:14,990
both of our like our our our 
thought process then. 

786
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,660
But I've gotta make the 
worksheet now. 

787
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,970
Sorry, what the task. 
The most important thing. 

788
00:31:20,260 --> 00:31:22,230
If you're actually going to 
spend time planning properly, it

789
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,430
has to be at the task. 
Yeah, I've made some artsy 

790
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,980
fartsy smites, but this 16 
slides in a row that through 

791
00:31:26,990 --> 00:31:29,090
these funny things he doesn't. 
I'll tell you what, it took me a

792
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,720
long time, some years, but I 
have finally dropped that pride.

793
00:31:31,730 --> 00:31:34,180
And now I when I look at 
resource, I think what the kids 

794
00:31:34,190 --> 00:31:35,990
actually get out of it. 
Yeah, they don't care about the 

795
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,480
presentation. 
Honestly, they don't. 

796
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:39,540
People might tell you they were 
all we gotta make it look good. 

797
00:31:39,550 --> 00:31:41,870
They don't care. 
They just don't. 

798
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,820
And there's some people out 
there, right, who take pride in 

799
00:31:44,830 --> 00:31:47,700
their in their resources, and 
they love that, that aesthetic 

800
00:31:47,710 --> 00:31:49,560
and things. 
And if they're not feeling burnt

801
00:31:49,570 --> 00:31:51,960
out and that's part of what they
enjoy doing, don't change 

802
00:31:51,970 --> 00:31:52,850
anything. 
It's lovely. 

803
00:31:52,860 --> 00:31:53,920
And if you're not? 
Saying it's bad. 

804
00:31:53,930 --> 00:31:57,040
If you're feeling burnt out ask 
for their resources use theirs. 

805
00:31:57,050 --> 00:32:00,020
And that's that's that's kind of
overarching point here is if 

806
00:32:00,030 --> 00:32:02,530
there is stuff available. 
Yeah from other people even just

807
00:32:02,540 --> 00:32:04,560
the Internet. 
Whatever you go on Tees or you 

808
00:32:04,570 --> 00:32:06,870
go on twinkle or whatever your 
subscriptions you've got if 

809
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,760
there's stuff available and 
you've looked for it and quality

810
00:32:08,770 --> 00:32:10,750
control it and you think it's 
good to use it because you're a 

811
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,200
professional use it. 
You're a professional. 

812
00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:14,950
You can make that judgement call
have you ever before because 

813
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,640
I've done this loads of times 
and every time I do it I'm 

814
00:32:16,650 --> 00:32:18,260
thinking what the hell am I 
doing? 

815
00:32:18,610 --> 00:32:23,200
Snipped a PowerPoint so like 
screen shotted a PowerPoint onto

816
00:32:23,210 --> 00:32:26,200
my smart notebook. 
Basically slide for slide just 

817
00:32:26,210 --> 00:32:27,820
so that it's not a Twinkle 
PowerPoint. 

818
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:30,540
Anyone who doesn't know SMART 
Notebook is like PowerPoint, but

819
00:32:30,550 --> 00:32:32,270
a lot of schools is it law 
schools down, it's more 

820
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,730
interactive. 
I've changed everything. 

821
00:32:33,740 --> 00:32:35,790
I've changed now. 
Like in terms of we use White 

822
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,860
Rose maths if a power. 
So let's say we're doing 

823
00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:41,580
fractions right. 
I could sit and make all these 

824
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,090
equal spaced out lines and these
beautiful graphs and these 

825
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:48,670
pictures that, yeah, all this 
pictorial stuff that moves. 

826
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,110
Or I could just use the 
PowerPoint that exists. 

827
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,570
So you know, I'm just gonna put 
a slide and say see PowerPoint 

828
00:32:54,580 --> 00:32:56,890
for my own reference. 
I jump over to the PowerPoint 

829
00:32:56,900 --> 00:32:58,520
and guess what? 
The kids get the same learning 

830
00:32:58,530 --> 00:32:59,730
experience. 
Actually, yeah, they get a 

831
00:32:59,740 --> 00:33:02,300
better learning experience. 
Yeah, because it exists, is made

832
00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:04,260
by professionals, other maths 
specialists. 

833
00:33:04,270 --> 00:33:06,940
It's already there. 
It doesn't need to look like my 

834
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:07,840
lesson. 
It doesn't. 

835
00:33:07,850 --> 00:33:09,760
Matter. 
So to summarise then, my first 

836
00:33:09,770 --> 00:33:12,200
point. 
So point #2 on avoiding burnout,

837
00:33:12,610 --> 00:33:15,060
Don't be too proud. 
Use other resources. 

838
00:33:15,070 --> 00:33:16,880
Don't worry too much about what 
it looks like. 

839
00:33:17,070 --> 00:33:19,770
Definitely. 
So tip #3, I guess we're going 

840
00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:21,740
123. 
We've got six in total. 

841
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:24,580
This one is. 
Again, I'm only giving stuff 

842
00:33:24,590 --> 00:33:26,740
I've used because I found it 
really useful. 

843
00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:31,540
So tip #3, avoid burnout by 
spreading your classroom mental 

844
00:33:31,550 --> 00:33:34,660
load. 
Spread that out amongst people, 

845
00:33:34,730 --> 00:33:37,220
either support staff or actual 
children. 

846
00:33:37,310 --> 00:33:39,370
So what I mean here is burn them
out. 

847
00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:43,440
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 
What I mean here is as a 

848
00:33:43,450 --> 00:33:45,680
classroom teacher, you are a 
manager. 

849
00:33:45,770 --> 00:33:48,310
You are a manager. 
You're in charge of that 

850
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,870
particular classroom. 
You have children to manage. 

851
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,490
You might have support staff to 
manage sometimes, probably not 

852
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:55,530
all the time, knowing funding as
it is right now. 

853
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:58,840
But that is a big cognitive load
that you've got to carry. 

854
00:33:58,850 --> 00:34:00,310
Yeah. 
And especially when you're 

855
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,290
getting incentives, sorry, 
initiatives from SLT or you've 

856
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:06,370
got lots of policies to follow. 
Like we've said, you look at the

857
00:34:06,380 --> 00:34:07,290
policies. 
Well, OK. 

858
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:09,750
But I've still got to do a 
visual timetable every day. 

859
00:34:09,820 --> 00:34:12,370
I've still got to make sure that
these letters get handed out at 

860
00:34:12,380 --> 00:34:14,830
the end of every day. 
I am scatty. 

861
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:18,889
I am terrible if there's a pile 
of letters on my desk and that 

862
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:22,159
comes at lunchtime because it's 
not come within two minutes of 

863
00:34:22,170 --> 00:34:24,540
having to be done, it will be 
forgotten about and left on my. 

864
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:26,500
Desk How? 
What's the percentage rate? 

865
00:34:26,510 --> 00:34:28,449
Do you reckon you actually hand 
out a letter on the day you? 

866
00:34:28,460 --> 00:34:30,190
Get it's 5050. 
It's 50. 

867
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:30,770
Pretty good. 
Yeah. 

868
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:34,100
It's like 10%, no. 
It's it's pretty good because 

869
00:34:34,110 --> 00:34:36,520
it's got it's improved because I
followed this advice. 

870
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,040
So my tip when I say spread the 
mental load is give your kids in

871
00:34:40,050 --> 00:34:43,400
your class jobs if there are low
stakes jobs that you've got to 

872
00:34:43,409 --> 00:34:47,550
remember every single day, but 
anyone could do them, IE fixing 

873
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,610
the visual timetable. 
My class, now, since we talked 

874
00:34:50,620 --> 00:34:53,659
about it a few episodes ago, we 
used a visual timetable every 

875
00:34:53,670 --> 00:34:54,360
single day. 
Yeah. 

876
00:34:54,370 --> 00:34:56,139
Do you know why? 
Because there's one boy in my 

877
00:34:56,150 --> 00:34:57,720
class who I've given that job 
to. 

878
00:34:57,830 --> 00:34:59,910
Every single morning, he comes 
up to me and says what we're 

879
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,000
doing today and he points at the
visual timetable. 

880
00:35:02,070 --> 00:35:04,960
And every single morning I go, 
ohh, yeah, it's this. 

881
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:07,230
I don't have to do it anymore. 
I'll just say to him science and

882
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:08,840
he'll sort it all out while he's
going on. 

883
00:35:08,930 --> 00:35:12,280
Meanwhile, there are two people 
who go over to my book corner 

884
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,550
and make sure that's all tidy 
because he's in the book corner.

885
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,720
Yeah. 
Meanwhile, there's a rotation of

886
00:35:16,730 --> 00:35:19,120
people who are taking my lunch 
register around. 

887
00:35:19,230 --> 00:35:21,260
There's a rotation of people who
are taking the lunch trolley to 

888
00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:23,370
the hall. 
And there's a rotation of people

889
00:35:23,530 --> 00:35:25,530
who are sorting out books to be 
returned to their library. 

890
00:35:25,540 --> 00:35:27,250
Yeah, so there's a box now of 
books. 

891
00:35:27,260 --> 00:35:29,290
There's someone who walked 
around and say any books to be 

892
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:32,210
collected up, all automated. 
All of these jobs were jobs that

893
00:35:32,220 --> 00:35:34,520
just simply wouldn't have 
happened or I'd forget. 

894
00:35:34,530 --> 00:35:36,070
Because you know what I've got 
in the morning. 

895
00:35:36,110 --> 00:35:37,490
I've got to make sure the kids 
are OK. 

896
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:39,210
There's someone is coming, 
crying because something 

897
00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:39,960
happens. 
Ready. 

898
00:35:41,580 --> 00:35:43,630
You know, printing, trimming. 
I can do that before the kids 

899
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,510
come in. 
But when? 

900
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,650
When I've got 32 children in 
front of me, do you know my 

901
00:35:46,660 --> 00:35:48,270
priority is making sure they're 
OK? 

902
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,830
It's talking to them. 
It's catching up with them. 

903
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:52,940
It might be doing a bit of input
of one of them who missed 

904
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:55,050
something yesterday. 
It's doing the register. 

905
00:35:55,060 --> 00:35:57,210
It's making sure they get the 
hot school dinners if they need 

906
00:35:57,220 --> 00:35:59,720
hot school dinners. 
All of these things are tied up 

907
00:35:59,730 --> 00:36:01,990
in my priority list. 
Then everything else that needs 

908
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,410
to. 
Happen. 

909
00:36:02,420 --> 00:36:05,710
So say your point here is 
delegate. 

910
00:36:05,860 --> 00:36:07,560
Don't be afraid to delegate. 
Yeah, don't be afraid. 

911
00:36:07,570 --> 00:36:09,860
Sometimes we think, oh, I 
better, I better do that because

912
00:36:09,870 --> 00:36:10,710
I'm a teacher. 
No. 

913
00:36:10,780 --> 00:36:12,210
Yeah, no. 
If someone else can do it, get 

914
00:36:12,220 --> 00:36:14,080
them to do it. 
So like if you're in a staff 

915
00:36:14,090 --> 00:36:16,910
meeting, right, and someone. 
And then for example, let's say 

916
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,400
you don't do visual timetable, 
but you're in the staff meeting.

917
00:36:19,410 --> 00:36:21,450
And then your SRT said, OK guys,
we're all gonna do visual 

918
00:36:21,460 --> 00:36:24,630
timetable from now. 
Instead of going, oh God, I'm so

919
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,340
burnt out already, how am I 
going to do that? 

920
00:36:27,380 --> 00:36:29,630
Try and change your mindset 
because that's going to help you

921
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,840
in the long run. 
Your mindset can now be OK, how 

922
00:36:31,850 --> 00:36:34,390
can I make that work for me? 
OK, I'm going to make that work 

923
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,420
for me because the resources 
team are making it for everyone.

924
00:36:37,490 --> 00:36:39,180
Thank you. 
But I've still got to do it 

925
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:40,240
everyday. 
Do you know what? 

926
00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:44,140
I'm gonna put that out to a kid 
because a child can easily do 

927
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:46,160
that job that you know a child 
can't do. 

928
00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:47,520
And I still wouldn't trust him 
to do. 

929
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,020
I'm sure they could if we 
trained them. 

930
00:36:49,070 --> 00:36:51,430
But I still, at the minute I'm 
gonna write down who needs hot 

931
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,500
school lunches because if 
someone messes up their dinner, 

932
00:36:53,550 --> 00:36:55,020
I'm gonna. 
I'm gonna feel awful that 

933
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:57,060
actually I put a nine year old 
in charge of that. 

934
00:36:57,130 --> 00:36:58,960
That's my job in the morning. 
But you know what? 

935
00:36:58,970 --> 00:37:02,420
These five other jobs, no. 
And if there are some jobs that 

936
00:37:02,430 --> 00:37:05,380
an adult needs to do, maybe it's
changing a display, getting some

937
00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:07,890
staples down, something maybe 
where it's a bit more involved 

938
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:10,060
with safety or just know how of 
an adult. 

939
00:37:10,070 --> 00:37:12,070
Umm, do you know what? 
I'll wait for my support staff 

940
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,670
to come in. 
Yeah, I actually, I know I've 

941
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,920
got support staff in English 
today, so that job can wait. 

942
00:37:15,930 --> 00:37:18,280
Till then, I'll write it down. 
Here you go, because I've got a 

943
00:37:18,290 --> 00:37:21,370
nice relationship with my Tias. 
Or before we do anything while 

944
00:37:21,380 --> 00:37:23,290
I'm doing the input, would you 
mind just going and sorting out 

945
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:25,210
this for me? 
Did you, did you, early on in 

946
00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:28,080
your career like me, find it 
really hard to delegate to 

947
00:37:28,090 --> 00:37:30,780
staff? 
Yeah, I still, honestly, and 

948
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:32,780
hopefully this helps people who 
are less experienced than I was 

949
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:35,700
eight or nine years. 
I still really struggle with 

950
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,110
managing people. 
Yeah. 

951
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,050
In terms of I I still feel 
awkward. 

952
00:37:39,060 --> 00:37:41,210
I feel like I'm I'm there equal.
Yeah. 

953
00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:43,800
I don't like the idea of me 
being the manager of the club 

954
00:37:43,810 --> 00:37:45,230
and I'm managing them. 
It is what it. 

955
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:47,670
Is like you're above them in. 
Terms of fire and school you 

956
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,490
know for a for a teacher who's 
Essex experience who's like 2-3 

957
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:53,130
years in they might have a has 
been at the school for 30 years 

958
00:37:53,140 --> 00:37:55,720
yeah and and you know that TA 
knows exactly what's going on 

959
00:37:55,730 --> 00:37:58,050
and sometimes can be a bit 
overpowering We've seen remember

960
00:37:58,060 --> 00:37:58,680
yeah. 
Completely. 

961
00:37:58,690 --> 00:38:00,880
I remember my first, and I'm 
gonna name them because I just 

962
00:38:00,890 --> 00:38:03,230
love these people. 
Yeah, my first year of teaching,

963
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:05,510
I had two TA that was working 
with the work with me. 

964
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,040
One was Mike Brown, who I'm 
still lovely, lovely man. 

965
00:38:08,250 --> 00:38:10,200
They way more experience than I 
was at the time. 

966
00:38:10,330 --> 00:38:14,450
And another one, Another one was
Jeffrey, who was like one of the

967
00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:17,000
most incredible teaching. 
I've gotta say right now, Angela

968
00:38:17,010 --> 00:38:21,380
Angie Laffey is that archetypal.
You know TA, Who is a better 

969
00:38:21,390 --> 00:38:23,400
teacher? 
Than any Yeah, so good, so good.

970
00:38:23,410 --> 00:38:25,100
And they were my first gas, 
right? 

971
00:38:25,150 --> 00:38:27,780
Helping me out on a daily basis.
And I have so much imposter 

972
00:38:27,790 --> 00:38:30,780
syndrome thinking I'm 
technically supposed to be like 

973
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:33,060
in charge, like telling you guys
what to do, but you know 

974
00:38:33,070 --> 00:38:36,740
everything better than I do. 
And I think that since then it 

975
00:38:36,750 --> 00:38:39,070
took me, it took me many, many 
years, I think to get to the 

976
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,170
point where that no longer 
infiltrated my brain. 

977
00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:43,810
Whenever I thought I do kind of 
need an adult to help me with 

978
00:38:43,820 --> 00:38:45,970
this, I'll just do it myself 
because I don't want to ask them

979
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:48,010
now. 
I think I'm better at being like

980
00:38:48,020 --> 00:38:49,690
actually, you know what? 
We're A-Team. 

981
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:53,140
Yes, One of us has got to manage
this team in terms of like me 

982
00:38:53,150 --> 00:38:56,190
and my TA or me and a couple of 
teams that work in our in our 

983
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,640
year group. 
Obviously our year leader has 

984
00:38:58,650 --> 00:39:01,390
that overarching role. 
But I can also just say, oh, 

985
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,410
what are you doing? 
Have you got an hour spare this 

986
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:04,940
afternoon? 
Can you, could you mind getting 

987
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:06,150
this job done? 
Coolant. 

988
00:39:06,260 --> 00:39:08,300
Yeah, There you go. 
Now there's an hour I don't have

989
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:09,900
to do after school. 
Now they're doing it in their 

990
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:11,310
paid time. 
Exactly, as long as it's. 

991
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,070
Free. 
Exactly. 

992
00:39:12,140 --> 00:39:13,410
So yeah, that's my, that's my 
point. 

993
00:39:13,420 --> 00:39:15,730
Now Delegate, I think we all 
know it's tricky to delegate to 

994
00:39:15,740 --> 00:39:18,570
adults, but something that 
transformed it for me was just 

995
00:39:18,580 --> 00:39:21,480
delegated to your kids. 
Your kids are more reliable than

996
00:39:21,490 --> 00:39:24,740
you ever could imagine it. 
And when it's their job, they're

997
00:39:24,750 --> 00:39:26,690
not going to forget it. 
They've got one job to remember 

998
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:28,930
and they do it every day. 
And I trust you, they love it. 

999
00:39:28,940 --> 00:39:30,950
Yeah. 
If you ask your kids to do a 

1000
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,150
favour, you'll get everyone's 
hand go up straight away. 

1001
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,910
So yeah, just just delegate out 
if you're feeling burnt out. 

1002
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,350
How much of these jobs can you 
give to someone else? 

1003
00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:40,290
And then you know what? 
It's not in my head anymore. 

1004
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:42,530
I'd have to get frustrated 
because they're running. 

1005
00:39:42,540 --> 00:39:43,980
Just remember to be fair as 
well. 

1006
00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:46,340
Obviously we say that say that 
given these drugs to other 

1007
00:39:46,350 --> 00:39:48,490
people, as long as they've got 
the capacity to take it, you 

1008
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:50,710
don't just pass the burnout. 
Some I'm talking about children 

1009
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,920
in classrooms, those little 
media jobs like that, that's. 

1010
00:39:52,930 --> 00:39:54,540
Just wanna make that clear. 
I don't want to listen to that 

1011
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:56,500
and be like, oh, they're just 
saying get someone else to. 

1012
00:39:56,510 --> 00:39:58,720
Have. 
And when I say I mean, I mean 

1013
00:39:58,730 --> 00:40:01,300
that like you know we've said 
real time if they've got time 

1014
00:40:01,310 --> 00:40:03,720
and that's something that can 
help you and you want more 

1015
00:40:03,730 --> 00:40:05,610
often. 
Ohh, bloody lovely. 

1016
00:40:05,620 --> 00:40:07,260
Yeah, they'll be like, yeah, of 
course I can. 

1017
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:09,850
They ask me. 
How bad I am at this, that 

1018
00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:11,430
they'll ask me, is there 
anything I can do? 

1019
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,000
And I'm like, oh, I don't. 
Know ohh I've not thought about 

1020
00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:13,820
it. 
I don't. 

1021
00:40:13,830 --> 00:40:16,480
Know actually have the 17 things
get a bit more organised. 

1022
00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:18,190
It's helped me a lot. 
So that's my second tip. 

1023
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,110
Tip free. 
Right, tip #4, avoiding burnout.

1024
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,390
This is probably my favourite 
tip. 

1025
00:40:22,460 --> 00:40:24,610
I've been doing this for years 
and I'm still improving at it. 

1026
00:40:24,620 --> 00:40:27,150
I'm not a great and it is. 
Called Go part time. 

1027
00:40:28,530 --> 00:40:32,050
That's a great tip, planning for
marking and what I mean plan. 

1028
00:40:32,060 --> 00:40:35,370
What I mean by planning for 
marking is consider the marking 

1029
00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:38,830
load at the point in which you 
plan your day, or you plan your 

1030
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,820
lessons or you plan your week. 
However, whatever your planning 

1031
00:40:40,830 --> 00:40:46,130
process is, genuinely build into
your thought process of how long

1032
00:40:46,140 --> 00:40:51,320
will it take to mark this. 
And if you're organised enough, 

1033
00:40:51,380 --> 00:40:54,710
you can get to a point where you
make sure that there are no days

1034
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,710
where you end up with that 
horrible triple triple marking 

1035
00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:58,890
bird. 
You know, you know, you've done 

1036
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:00,560
your morning lesson, it's that 
that's a big mark. 

1037
00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:01,630
Then you've got your English 
lesson. 

1038
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,970
Whatever it is, it's a big mark.
And then you do your afternoon 

1039
00:41:03,980 --> 00:41:05,200
lesson. 
It just happens to be quite a 

1040
00:41:05,210 --> 00:41:07,410
big mark load as well. 
And you think, Oh no. 

1041
00:41:07,420 --> 00:41:09,350
Afternoon where you've spit two 
lessons into. 

1042
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,570
The afternoon something 
quadruple there, yeah. 

1043
00:41:11,580 --> 00:41:13,450
And you've got like all this 
marking to do. 

1044
00:41:13,620 --> 00:41:16,870
I'd say probably like now less 
than two times a term. 

1045
00:41:17,020 --> 00:41:19,630
Do I accidentally let that 
happen to me because our plan 

1046
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,840
for marketing? 
How would you do that? 

1047
00:41:20,850 --> 00:41:23,260
Let's say you've got, you've got
a day ahead of you, so for 

1048
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:25,620
anyone again it doesn't know, 
primary school staff will have 

1049
00:41:25,630 --> 00:41:27,810
one afternoon called PA. 
We're out of the classroom. 

1050
00:41:27,820 --> 00:41:29,800
We don't do any marking, so 
that's kind of done for itself. 

1051
00:41:29,810 --> 00:41:31,260
Yeah. 
We might have another day 

1052
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:33,380
perhaps where we're doing like 
PE or something or something, 

1053
00:41:33,390 --> 00:41:36,160
something where it's built in 
that there is no actual physical

1054
00:41:36,170 --> 00:41:38,500
marking. 
But how do you avoid it on those

1055
00:41:38,510 --> 00:41:41,120
days where let's say you know, 
you've got to teach history in 

1056
00:41:41,130 --> 00:41:43,540
the afternoon, you've got maths 
and English in the morning. 

1057
00:41:43,950 --> 00:41:47,100
How can you actually do that and
and try and avoid your burnout 

1058
00:41:47,110 --> 00:41:50,170
staying, staying late without 
making a detriment to the kids 

1059
00:41:50,180 --> 00:41:53,210
because the the thing people 
might say to you there is OK, 

1060
00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:55,520
well what do they not do any 
work then how how are we gonna 

1061
00:41:55,530 --> 00:41:56,630
make sure? 
What do you mean? 

1062
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,780
Like I've I've got a plan for 
marking, but how do you do that 

1063
00:41:58,790 --> 00:41:59,330
a? 
Couple of things. 

1064
00:41:59,340 --> 00:42:01,690
So first of all, I think you 
need to be really confident with

1065
00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:03,810
knowing your weekly timetable. 
It has to come from a weekly 

1066
00:42:03,820 --> 00:42:06,170
perspective, right? 
You know which days you have 

1067
00:42:06,180 --> 00:42:08,920
more time on. 
For example, on PPA day, I 

1068
00:42:08,930 --> 00:42:12,220
always make sure if I am going 
to do some big marking in maths 

1069
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:14,620
and English is that day because 
I've got all of PPA and I've got

1070
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:17,010
no afternoon lesson to market. 
So that day I don't mind. 

1071
00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:18,530
I'll always make sure that 
that's fine. 

1072
00:42:18,540 --> 00:42:21,260
I can just mark those as the 
biggest set of marking need. 

1073
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:23,620
Whatever. 
But on the days, and there's 

1074
00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:25,620
another day where we'll do 
things in the afternoon where 

1075
00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:26,720
it's not, we're not marking 
anyway. 

1076
00:42:26,730 --> 00:42:30,020
Things like PE, music, music, 
like those kind of subjects. 

1077
00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:32,240
If we do them, there's not 
really any marking involved 

1078
00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:33,240
anyway. 
There might be a little bit of 

1079
00:42:33,250 --> 00:42:34,940
assessment. 
So those days I also think 

1080
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:37,640
right, if I did have bigger 
marking in the morning, that's 

1081
00:42:37,650 --> 00:42:40,380
not as much of a problem. 
So we're down to like two or 

1082
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:43,340
three days of the week where you
might have maybe maths, English 

1083
00:42:43,350 --> 00:42:45,560
and then like a geography lesson
or something like that in the 

1084
00:42:45,570 --> 00:42:47,400
afternoon. 
And for those lessons at the 

1085
00:42:47,410 --> 00:42:50,120
beginning of the week I'm 
already planning ahead on, I 

1086
00:42:50,130 --> 00:42:53,040
think it's acceptable to have 
one or two practical lessons in 

1087
00:42:53,050 --> 00:42:54,610
the week. 
Maybe one in maths, one in one 

1088
00:42:54,620 --> 00:42:56,370
in English, where we don't do 
anything in the books. 

1089
00:42:56,540 --> 00:42:58,770
And I'll plan that. 
I don't be afraid to do that. 

1090
00:42:58,780 --> 00:43:01,170
But like, no. 
On Thursday I know that we're 

1091
00:43:01,180 --> 00:43:03,130
doing a big bit of writing in 
English. 

1092
00:43:03,260 --> 00:43:05,330
There's going to take me a while
to mark and we've got some dog 

1093
00:43:05,340 --> 00:43:06,450
in the afternoon. 
So you know what? 

1094
00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:09,470
In maths I'm going to make sure 
that whatever I had planned for 

1095
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,230
that day, we're going to do it 
in a practical way. 

1096
00:43:11,290 --> 00:43:12,950
And I'm not going to be left 
with marking. 

1097
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,810
And I'm not afraid to do that 
because you know what? 

1098
00:43:14,860 --> 00:43:16,310
It's OK. 
And guess what, guys? 

1099
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,370
Markings the least important, 
least effective part of teaching

1100
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:21,690
anyway. 
So really, it's not going to 

1101
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:23,840
have that much impact as long as
you still teach a lesson well 

1102
00:43:23,850 --> 00:43:25,800
and they're still doing a task 
of some sort. 

1103
00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:27,500
You don't have to have maths in 
the book to have LIKE. 

1104
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:30,000
Maths, no. 
And the final point is with 

1105
00:43:30,010 --> 00:43:32,060
marking. 
I kind of see there's two types 

1106
00:43:32,070 --> 00:43:33,430
of marking. 
There's quick marking and 

1107
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,280
there's long marking. 
And I consider maths generally, 

1108
00:43:36,330 --> 00:43:38,300
for, at least in our system, 
maths is a quick. 

1109
00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:40,980
Mark Definitely, pretty much 
always do you find with maths in

1110
00:43:40,990 --> 00:43:44,150
our system again we've we've 
kind of not mould I guess we've 

1111
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,040
moulded over the years haven't 
we Where our aim now is teachers

1112
00:43:48,050 --> 00:43:51,460
work for a break. 
You know, flash news flash that 

1113
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:54,040
teachers would be able to mark 
mass always within their break 

1114
00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:55,230
time. 
If they wanted to. 

1115
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:58,320
So basically 15 minutes maximum.
Yeah because we self marking 

1116
00:43:58,330 --> 00:44:00,670
maths. 
And then the idea is if because 

1117
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,530
they've self marked you can just
kind of have a quick flick 

1118
00:44:02,540 --> 00:44:04,780
through and pick up 
misconceptions or whatever. 

1119
00:44:04,830 --> 00:44:07,310
But it's quick. 
Now if I happen that I do this 

1120
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,760
on the spot sometimes and don't 
be afraid again to do this, just

1121
00:44:10,770 --> 00:44:12,540
adapt and change your week on 
the spot. 

1122
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:16,040
Even on the day I have before I 
finished the math lesson and 

1123
00:44:16,050 --> 00:44:18,460
it's not quite gone to plan. 
We've not ended up self marking 

1124
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:20,860
and I've thought that's a big 
mark now because they didn't 

1125
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:23,280
really get that they've done 
some work in their books, we've 

1126
00:44:23,290 --> 00:44:25,240
not self marked. 
It's going to take me ages now 

1127
00:44:25,250 --> 00:44:28,000
to mark that so I get to the 
next session which is English 

1128
00:44:28,110 --> 00:44:30,120
and in before I get before I 
start that lesson. 

1129
00:44:30,130 --> 00:44:32,760
I've got break time. 
My my thought is cool, how can I

1130
00:44:32,770 --> 00:44:34,420
how can I now make this lesson 
practical? 

1131
00:44:34,510 --> 00:44:38,340
Because I'm not prepared to take
books home and that is a rule I 

1132
00:44:38,350 --> 00:44:42,090
have. 
If I get to 5:30 and there's 

1133
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:45,360
marking that hasn't been done, I
have failed myself that day. 

1134
00:44:45,410 --> 00:44:47,980
I've not organised my day 
properly and I will not take it 

1135
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:48,760
home. 
I'm not going to Mark. 

1136
00:44:48,770 --> 00:44:51,700
I think that's that's really 
good because I think with a lot 

1137
00:44:51,710 --> 00:44:55,240
of these lists, sometimes I hear
people say things like tip 4 

1138
00:44:55,310 --> 00:44:57,440
don't take marking home. 
You could have said that Then 

1139
00:44:57,490 --> 00:44:59,610
your tip could have been done 
marking home, Yeah. 

1140
00:44:59,620 --> 00:45:02,830
And it's like I find tips like 
that really unhelpful. 

1141
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,090
How? 
How do we not take much? 

1142
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,710
So the tip you're saying is be 
organised in the 1st place and 

1143
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:10,910
know what's gonna happen. 
Avoid taking planning home by 

1144
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,990
knowing that it's OK to plan in 
these practical lessons. 

1145
00:45:14,050 --> 00:45:16,450
I think it's a great tip and. 
Change them as part of you need 

1146
00:45:16,460 --> 00:45:17,230
to. 
Seriously. 

1147
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:19,630
So be adaptable again. 
Yeah, you could have turned up 

1148
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,990
and said tip 4. 
Be adaptable. 

1149
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,870
OK? 
In practise, what does that 

1150
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,110
mean? 
It means change your lesson. 

1151
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,770
Don't have to skimp on quality, 
Don't have to skimp on learning.

1152
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:33,210
But what you can do is skimp on 
how much you're writing in there

1153
00:45:33,370 --> 00:45:34,960
and it links back to .2. 
Really. 

1154
00:45:34,970 --> 00:45:36,000
Drop. 
Drop the pride. 

1155
00:45:36,010 --> 00:45:40,500
Seriously, don't worry about it.
If if if the odd lesson is now 

1156
00:45:40,510 --> 00:45:43,860
not marked properly because you 
changed it so that you actually 

1157
00:45:43,870 --> 00:45:45,890
got to go home and spend time 
with your family or do whatever 

1158
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:48,600
you do, it's fine. 
I promise you it won't make an 

1159
00:45:48,610 --> 00:45:49,880
impact. 
Drop the pride. 

1160
00:45:49,890 --> 00:45:51,440
It's fine. 
But if your school's got a 

1161
00:45:51,450 --> 00:45:53,700
terrible policy and it's like, 
no, every lesson must be marked 

1162
00:45:53,710 --> 00:45:56,700
horrendously, then there's 
there's there's a wider issue. 

1163
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:58,820
There, and I think that's what 
you said beforehand. 

1164
00:45:58,870 --> 00:46:00,870
If you're listening to these 
tips and going couldn't do that 

1165
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,080
in my school, yeah, there 
there's your answer. 

1166
00:46:04,090 --> 00:46:05,590
Yeah, maybe the school is the 
problem. 

1167
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,180
Right, my final tip. 
Tip 5 something again that I 

1168
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:13,180
have done a lot more in the last
year or two and I found it has 

1169
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:17,180
had a big impact is to use PPA 
properly. 

1170
00:46:17,490 --> 00:46:22,040
OK, use your PPA time properly. 
We started off this podcast and 

1171
00:46:22,050 --> 00:46:24,060
we did jokes about how PPA is 
not enough time. 

1172
00:46:24,130 --> 00:46:27,680
I still think that PA is not 
enough time to get all of the 

1173
00:46:27,690 --> 00:46:31,530
extra stuff done. 
However, we do have a semblance 

1174
00:46:31,540 --> 00:46:33,580
of control. 
So this whole theme of the all 

1175
00:46:33,590 --> 00:46:36,550
these tips that I've kind of 
realised over the years is you 

1176
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,590
can do a lot of moaning about 
external factors, you can do a 

1177
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,930
lot of complaining about. 
Oh, I've got so much to do 

1178
00:46:41,940 --> 00:46:45,880
because of XYZ. 
What can I take control of? 

1179
00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:49,620
And my PPA was one of them. 
And what I mean by using PA 

1180
00:46:49,630 --> 00:46:51,190
properly. 
And this, this expands to 

1181
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,950
everything. 
Yeah, this expands to all of 

1182
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,760
your own time because you look 
at PPA. 

1183
00:46:54,830 --> 00:46:57,210
I look at PPA as just an 
expansion of my time before 

1184
00:46:57,220 --> 00:46:59,790
school, my time after school, 
anything I've got to do out of 

1185
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,970
the classroom. 
But Ppa's golden because it's 

1186
00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:04,440
the time I get. 
That's the time I'm given by the

1187
00:47:04,450 --> 00:47:07,960
system. 
So I use that time as best I can

1188
00:47:08,010 --> 00:47:12,200
to take away anything else from 
my calendar, from my schedule if

1189
00:47:12,210 --> 00:47:14,140
I don't use it properly. 
Guess what? 

1190
00:47:14,210 --> 00:47:16,690
I'm just going to the weekend. 
I'm just gonna have to do it. 

1191
00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:18,590
P is like double time because 
also you're not. 

1192
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,550
If you're not teaching a lesson 
in that time, you're also not 

1193
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,230
having to market. 
Exactly so I think in general my

1194
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:27,550
my tip here is to have a 
hierarchy of what needs doing. 

1195
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,930
I'll be interested to hear 
because I think I don't use my 

1196
00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:30,740
PPA very. 
Effective. 

1197
00:47:30,750 --> 00:47:33,410
OK, so this. 
Yeah, I think you could improve 

1198
00:47:33,420 --> 00:47:34,320
this. 
I really do. 

1199
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,050
But have a hierarchy of what 
he's doing and has the biggest 

1200
00:47:37,060 --> 00:47:39,270
impact on the children. 
Have that yourself. 

1201
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,450
OK, so as a teacher, as a 
professional, mould what that is

1202
00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:43,770
for you? 
So just to be clear, you're 

1203
00:47:43,780 --> 00:47:45,430
going to share your time? 
I'm gonna share my high, but 

1204
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,450
you're not. 
I mean, this is what? 

1205
00:47:46,460 --> 00:47:49,020
You have no just find your hire 
down to you because you know 

1206
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:51,030
what it used to be. 
Umm, I'll tell you now. 

1207
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,530
My my number one top thing. 
Hmm. 

1208
00:47:53,570 --> 00:47:58,020
Is I? 
I will in my PA if something can

1209
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,400
only be done in school. 
Mm-hmm. 

1210
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,170
So, like it can only be done in 
school. 

1211
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:04,650
Hmm. 
That is a relevant to my 

1212
00:48:04,660 --> 00:48:06,950
hierarchy and I'll show you what
I mean. 

1213
00:48:06,990 --> 00:48:08,770
Yeah, what do you? 
Mean my hierarchy at the top is 

1214
00:48:08,780 --> 00:48:10,370
planning. 
OK. 

1215
00:48:10,380 --> 00:48:13,770
My number one thing that I think
of has the biggest impact on the

1216
00:48:13,780 --> 00:48:14,690
children. 
Yeah. 

1217
00:48:14,780 --> 00:48:17,710
And is the biggest use of my 
time is planning really good 

1218
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:19,770
lessons for the children. 
That's, that's number one. 

1219
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,950
OK. 
So you might think, OK, I can 

1220
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,440
plan anywhere. 
I can plan at home. 

1221
00:48:23,450 --> 00:48:24,620
Yeah. 
And I have planned at home a lot

1222
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:25,990
of the time. 
OK. 

1223
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,090
But and that you have people say
OK well in school I, you know I 

1224
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:32,670
can only do displays in school. 
I can't do displays at the 

1225
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,590
weekend. 
I can't. 

1226
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,030
That's impossible. 
So some people will say, well 

1227
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,010
that goes above and PA then 
because I'm in school. 

1228
00:48:38,060 --> 00:48:41,110
So I could do my do my displays 
right now my planning I'll just 

1229
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,030
get done whenever. 
My point here is no don't do 

1230
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,170
that. 
My number one that I've got my 

1231
00:48:46,180 --> 00:48:48,810
hierarchy which is like 
impeccable. 

1232
00:48:48,820 --> 00:48:51,590
You can't you can't touch that. 
Because I've I've decided for me

1233
00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:54,130
the best impact I have on the 
kids of my time is quality 

1234
00:48:54,140 --> 00:48:56,100
planning. 
I did that first on my PA. 

1235
00:48:56,110 --> 00:48:57,870
Every time. 
Every single time. 

1236
00:48:57,950 --> 00:49:00,620
So if I'm getting my planning 
done in PA, OK. 

1237
00:49:00,670 --> 00:49:04,890
If it takes all of PA and now 
ohh, I can't do my displays that

1238
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:07,960
I was going to do displays. 
Wait, it's as simple as that. 

1239
00:49:08,010 --> 00:49:09,750
Yeah, they don't get done. 
They don't. 

1240
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,980
They're not as important because
if I did it the other way around

1241
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:14,600
and I spent my whole PPA doing 
displays, guess what? 

1242
00:49:14,670 --> 00:49:16,550
That planning needs to happen 
because I won't have a lesson to

1243
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,200
next week. 
It has to happen. 

1244
00:49:18,210 --> 00:49:20,880
So it's my hierarchy. 
How am I going to avoid burning 

1245
00:49:20,890 --> 00:49:22,980
out? 
Guess what guys and people 

1246
00:49:22,990 --> 00:49:25,360
aren't like this and I don't 
care because how I avoid burning

1247
00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:26,740
out. 
There's some stuff that just 

1248
00:49:26,750 --> 00:49:29,840
doesn't get done. 
And if if I'm I'm told I need to

1249
00:49:29,850 --> 00:49:33,480
do 6 displays, or if I'm told I 
need to do something else, I'm 

1250
00:49:33,490 --> 00:49:35,480
like, cool that OK, I will do 
it. 

1251
00:49:35,550 --> 00:49:38,380
I promise you I will do that. 
But it's here in my hierarchy. 

1252
00:49:38,550 --> 00:49:41,920
Because if you think that it's 
going to prioritise my planning,

1253
00:49:42,350 --> 00:49:45,720
then you're completely wrong. 
So again, in my PPI, OK, you've 

1254
00:49:45,730 --> 00:49:48,960
set me a meeting for my PPA. 
OK, cool, all right, I'll do it 

1255
00:49:48,970 --> 00:49:50,560
then. 
But then I'm going to do my 

1256
00:49:50,570 --> 00:49:54,040
planning and then if there's any
time left over, if I don't 

1257
00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:57,310
finish my planning, that's 
really annoyed me and I'll have 

1258
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,200
to do my planning after. 
But guess what? 

1259
00:49:59,330 --> 00:50:03,020
Anything I do outside of that, 
I'm not going to do my display. 

1260
00:50:03,090 --> 00:50:05,510
No, no, it gets to half four. 
I finished my planning. 

1261
00:50:05,570 --> 00:50:08,300
I've done my marking OK cause 
markings on my hierarchy cause I

1262
00:50:08,310 --> 00:50:10,480
need to do my marking. 
If that doesn't get done, it 

1263
00:50:10,490 --> 00:50:11,660
doesn't get done. 
Cool. 

1264
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:14,000
It's half four. 
So if I leave the building then 

1265
00:50:14,010 --> 00:50:16,560
someone might say ohh have you 
done those displays? 

1266
00:50:16,890 --> 00:50:18,320
I'm. 
I'm more than happy now to say 

1267
00:50:18,330 --> 00:50:22,710
no. 
And then I'll wait and and ohh, 

1268
00:50:23,060 --> 00:50:23,850
can you do them? 
Yeah. 

1269
00:50:23,860 --> 00:50:24,150
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1270
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,210
I'll do them when I've got time.
Yeah. 

1271
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,750
Well you can do them now. 
I know I can. 

1272
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,150
But I'm not going to. 
Yeah, because that's how burnout

1273
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:30,750
happens. 
Yeah. 

1274
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,430
You have to take control of 
yourself. 

1275
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,270
If it's 4:45 and you have jobs 
to do, but they are low enough 

1276
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,410
on your hierarchy that you can 
crack on with your life and do 

1277
00:50:38,420 --> 00:50:41,470
your job that's where you're 
going to have to take control 

1278
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:42,650
and say it's not happening. 
I'm. 

1279
00:50:42,660 --> 00:50:44,030
Afraid can you wash your whole 
hierarchy? 

1280
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,020
Then just my hierarchy. 
I didn't go to planning the top,

1281
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:50,570
planning at the top. 
So my hierarchy is basically 

1282
00:50:50,660 --> 00:50:52,770
planning as that's what needs to
be done the most. 

1283
00:50:53,060 --> 00:50:55,230
Then it's going to be written 
feedback. 

1284
00:50:55,380 --> 00:50:59,250
But I think the reason that's on
my hierarchy is because it needs

1285
00:50:59,260 --> 00:51:01,690
to be done. 
Hmm, that's where you need to as

1286
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:03,190
a teacher come up with your own 
one. 

1287
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,890
Because for a lot of people 
written feedback will be at the 

1288
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:07,430
bottom of their list. 
And I would completely 

1289
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,310
understand that. 
But there might be working in a 

1290
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,010
school where it's not as 
important they have a verbal 

1291
00:51:12,020 --> 00:51:14,490
feedback policy. 
So my look, I can read my 

1292
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:17,210
personal one, but it is down to 
what I've cultivated myself. 

1293
00:51:17,260 --> 00:51:20,080
So if I'm sitting PA, the first 
thing I think of is there 

1294
00:51:20,090 --> 00:51:23,230
planning I have to do yes or no?
Yes, I do. 

1295
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:24,800
My planning is the planning I 
have to do. 

1296
00:51:24,810 --> 00:51:25,950
No. 
OK, cool. 

1297
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,790
Is there marking I've got to do?
Yeah. 

1298
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:29,190
No. 
OK, cool. 

1299
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,810
Now I can get into the nitty 
gritty stuff. 

1300
00:51:32,020 --> 00:51:34,570
Displays are still low here. 
My next thing would be 

1301
00:51:34,580 --> 00:51:36,730
assessment is they're assessment
outstanding. 

1302
00:51:36,860 --> 00:51:38,610
OK, Yes, there's some assessment
outstanding. 

1303
00:51:38,620 --> 00:51:40,570
Cool. 
I'll do that, get my assessment 

1304
00:51:40,580 --> 00:51:42,470
done. 
So I've done my planning, my 

1305
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,940
marking on my macro assessment. 
They're the three things that I 

1306
00:51:45,950 --> 00:51:49,270
see as PPA time. 
If that's done other thing comes

1307
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,690
in, then maybe then I'll go and 
print. 

1308
00:51:51,820 --> 00:51:52,500
Print. 
Exactly. 

1309
00:51:52,510 --> 00:51:54,560
Get my resources ready. 
I'll trim stuff. 

1310
00:51:54,610 --> 00:51:57,220
Because you know, when I trim 
stuff, it's in the morning 

1311
00:51:57,230 --> 00:51:59,720
before I get to school. 
Yeah, So all of these jobs, the 

1312
00:51:59,730 --> 00:52:01,740
hierarchy is what needs to 
happen for me to be able to 

1313
00:52:01,750 --> 00:52:04,660
complete my job. 
Yeah, do I need to do displays 

1314
00:52:04,670 --> 00:52:05,960
for my job to get done? 
No. 

1315
00:52:05,970 --> 00:52:07,170
No. 
Do they have any impact on 

1316
00:52:07,180 --> 00:52:08,160
children ever? 
Nope. 

1317
00:52:08,170 --> 00:52:11,780
Yeah, and again, that's down to,
I agree with you, that's down to

1318
00:52:11,790 --> 00:52:14,520
individual whim. 
But the the cold hard facts are 

1319
00:52:14,530 --> 00:52:18,760
and my hierarchy stuff that if 
it weren't, if it wasn't done, 

1320
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:20,380
would the children still have 
lessons? 

1321
00:52:20,450 --> 00:52:22,520
Yes. 
Would they really be impacted? 

1322
00:52:22,940 --> 00:52:25,600
Maybe a tiny bit if the displays
aren't up to date? 

1323
00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:27,820
Right. 
But but yeah, OK, but let's just

1324
00:52:27,830 --> 00:52:29,140
say it's a tiny bit. 
Sure. 

1325
00:52:29,630 --> 00:52:32,610
How much would their learning be
affected if there was no 

1326
00:52:32,620 --> 00:52:33,950
planning a huge? 
Amount. 

1327
00:52:34,020 --> 00:52:35,630
Or if you had to do your 
planning at the weekend when you

1328
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,520
were burned out because you used
all your time this. 

1329
00:52:37,530 --> 00:52:39,190
Week. 
So it's as simple as why has the

1330
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,310
biggest impact on the children, 
but is within the realms of what

1331
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,810
the policy is for your school. 
Because if there's a policy at 

1332
00:52:44,820 --> 00:52:46,490
the school which is causing you 
to be burned out, there's 

1333
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:49,950
nothing you can do. 
However, if there if you can 

1334
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,680
afford to have this attitude, 
then have this attitude. 

1335
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,610
I know that I need to update my 
displays, OK, but the only time 

1336
00:52:56,620 --> 00:52:58,960
that will happen is if I get 
into school early. 

1337
00:52:59,010 --> 00:53:01,040
And when I say early, I mean 
before half seven. 

1338
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,620
Umm. 
Or if I stay at school late. 

1339
00:53:03,690 --> 00:53:05,360
Yeah, And do you know what? 
Lose your time, your. 

1340
00:53:05,370 --> 00:53:06,940
Son, exactly. 
When I've done all my stuff, 

1341
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:08,100
like my planning, don't call 
next week. 

1342
00:53:08,110 --> 00:53:10,080
Next week we'll run. 
That's fine. 

1343
00:53:10,090 --> 00:53:11,920
All my resources are printed. 
Cool. 

1344
00:53:11,930 --> 00:53:14,970
That's done. 
I could spend 45 minutes doing a

1345
00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:18,580
display now. 
Or I could go home and see Rory 

1346
00:53:19,010 --> 00:53:20,700
and, you know, cook dinner 
properly. 

1347
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:22,620
Yeah, because you've already. 
Well, let's be let's be clear 

1348
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:24,060
here. 
Yeah, You're not doing this at 

1349
00:53:24,070 --> 00:53:26,600
3:00. 
No, you're doing this at. 

1350
00:53:26,650 --> 00:53:29,210
I'm no longer paid for my job 
because I've done 10 hours 

1351
00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:30,200
today. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1352
00:53:30,210 --> 00:53:32,560
So I don't need to say there's 
nothing compelling me to stay 

1353
00:53:32,570 --> 00:53:33,920
other than going above and 
beyond. 

1354
00:53:33,930 --> 00:53:36,600
So the macro thing there was, 
you know, have a hierarchy, but 

1355
00:53:36,610 --> 00:53:38,640
I wanted to be really specific 
cause I want these tips to be. 

1356
00:53:38,650 --> 00:53:40,760
That's really cool. 
High and hierarchy is the main 

1357
00:53:40,770 --> 00:53:42,300
thing, and that can be with 
anything. 

1358
00:53:42,310 --> 00:53:45,050
But very specifically if you 
want to off somewhere, start of 

1359
00:53:45,060 --> 00:53:48,050
your PPI, have a list of things 
and stick to it. 

1360
00:53:48,060 --> 00:53:50,090
What's important? 
And if something doesn't get 

1361
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:52,850
done, it doesn't get done. 
So I'm an SLT member. 

1362
00:53:52,860 --> 00:53:55,510
I'll just listen to this. 
I listen to the podcast and I 

1363
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,660
think that's a really good 
actually. 

1364
00:53:56,670 --> 00:53:58,950
I wanna, I wanna encourage this 
culture in my school. 

1365
00:53:59,780 --> 00:54:02,250
So what I'm going to do is 
something I read about on the 

1366
00:54:02,260 --> 00:54:04,110
forum the other day and I was 
like, oh, I'll bring this up 

1367
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,130
sometime. 
Someone was mentioning how their

1368
00:54:06,140 --> 00:54:11,150
SLT are coming around to monitor
how PA time is being spent to 

1369
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,990
help them make it more 
effective. 

1370
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:16,110
And I thought it was really 
interesting because I could 

1371
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,450
imagine 2 scenarios, right? 
Yeah, I can imagine one scenario

1372
00:54:18,460 --> 00:54:21,680
where it's a genuinely it's a 
nice SLT team thinking they're 

1373
00:54:21,690 --> 00:54:24,220
doing something nice to help 
their staff just be more 

1374
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:26,770
efficient so they can avoid 
burnout and which I don't think 

1375
00:54:26,780 --> 00:54:28,300
is very likely. 
And there's the other side of me

1376
00:54:28,310 --> 00:54:31,400
that was like ohh no, it's just 
a classic draconian like Academy

1377
00:54:31,410 --> 00:54:34,750
trust CEO coming down and being 
like Nope, we're going to we're 

1378
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,040
going to tell people what to do 
in in PA. 

1379
00:54:37,050 --> 00:54:39,530
So just to be clear PA is 
undirected time. 

1380
00:54:39,540 --> 00:54:42,640
The school are not allowed, not 
allowed in any circumstance to 

1381
00:54:42,650 --> 00:54:46,630
direct you as to the tasks that 
you do or complete in your PPA. 

1382
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,690
It's sacred time. 
So what would you say to me? 

1383
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:50,950
I'm SLT. 
I'm think I'm coming in. 

1384
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,610
I'm saying right. 
I'm gonna help you guys be more 

1385
00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:54,020
efficient. 
Do you think that's OK? 

1386
00:54:54,060 --> 00:54:57,880
I I think it really depends on 
the context because I think if 

1387
00:54:57,940 --> 00:55:01,650
RSLT came in and said that I'm 
like, cool, this is what we do. 

1388
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,040
And I think it's really 
important in this situation for 

1389
00:55:05,050 --> 00:55:09,630
SLT to offer it to not to not 
demand. 

1390
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,290
I'm coming to see your people. 
Yeah. 

1391
00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:13,310
No, no, no. 
It no matter how well intended 

1392
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,290
it is, if it's demanded to me, 
that's wrong. 

1393
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,110
Yeah. 
If it's if it's offered. 

1394
00:55:17,180 --> 00:55:18,710
And then you have that 
relationship PST. 

1395
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:20,210
Right. 
But yeah, God, because do you 

1396
00:55:20,220 --> 00:55:21,910
know what I'm going to show you 
now? 

1397
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,010
I get this two hour block of PPA
and I've got 2 1/2 hours of 

1398
00:55:26,020 --> 00:55:28,190
planning, half an hour of 
marking and all those displays 

1399
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,750
you asked me to do. 
So how would you manage this? 

1400
00:55:30,860 --> 00:55:32,290
And then and then. 
But then it becomes a 

1401
00:55:32,300 --> 00:55:34,550
conversation of OK, yeah, mate, 
we are asking too much of you. 

1402
00:55:34,620 --> 00:55:36,270
Do you know what? 
If the displays are that 

1403
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,420
important to me as SLT, why, why
don't we cut back on the 

1404
00:55:40,430 --> 00:55:42,180
planning? 
OK, so for this time, you know, 

1405
00:55:42,190 --> 00:55:44,180
we can use that history unit 
from last year. 

1406
00:55:44,270 --> 00:55:46,200
OK, that's fine, because we want
to get this done. 

1407
00:55:46,210 --> 00:55:49,460
For that reason, I'd be like, 
OK, because you've taken away 

1408
00:55:49,470 --> 00:55:52,490
from my burden. 
OK, I'm still gonna manage how I

1409
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:55,700
do it, but you've taken away 
from my burden now. 

1410
00:55:55,770 --> 00:55:57,070
And you know what? 
I'll get it done. 

1411
00:55:57,110 --> 00:55:59,580
I think there's going to be a 
problem where some teachers 

1412
00:55:59,710 --> 00:56:01,620
perhaps aren't doing their job 
properly. 

1413
00:56:01,690 --> 00:56:02,660
OK. 
And. 

1414
00:56:02,670 --> 00:56:05,080
And and what I mean by that is, 
let's not be naive. 

1415
00:56:05,090 --> 00:56:07,260
We're very much on the side of 
teachers every single time. 

1416
00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:09,380
And we we come across like we're
against SLT. 

1417
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,530
And I I really don't like that 
because there are some fantastic

1418
00:56:12,540 --> 00:56:14,690
slot out there. 
But also on the flip side, we 

1419
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:16,950
will say there are some teachers
who don't get things done that 

1420
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,130
need to get done. 
And there are some teachers who 

1421
00:56:19,140 --> 00:56:20,750
will completely waste their PA 
time. 

1422
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,810
We made a meme about it. 
You know, you have your chats 

1423
00:56:22,820 --> 00:56:24,110
and stuff, but it's true. 
Yeah. 

1424
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,530
And if you are, you know however
you wanna do it, that's fine. 

1425
00:56:27,740 --> 00:56:31,070
But if you are wasting your PPA 
and then complaining about being

1426
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,950
burnt out, fix it first. 
If you're still then complaining

1427
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,230
about being burned out, then 
there's an issue with the 

1428
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:39,810
system. 
But I think when when there's 

1429
00:56:39,820 --> 00:56:42,360
stuff you're in control of that 
you haven't first tried to 

1430
00:56:42,370 --> 00:56:45,640
change or help yourself with, 
yeah, it does lessen your 

1431
00:56:45,650 --> 00:56:47,520
credibility when you complain 
about stuff. 

1432
00:56:47,590 --> 00:56:51,870
So if you're using your PPA to 
the best of your intent, you 

1433
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,690
can't then complain that you got
an hour of work after school. 

1434
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,470
It's like, OK, well you did have
an hour and you just chatted 

1435
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,730
about something for an hour. 
You know, I'm not saying that 

1436
00:57:00,740 --> 00:57:03,740
you aren't burnt out. 
I'm just saying as a teacher, if

1437
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:06,620
you want help with being burnt 
out, fix everything you can 

1438
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:08,490
yourself first make your own 
bed. 

1439
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:10,750
In that kind of terms of yeah, 
that's the kind of thing. 

1440
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,830
You're right, you're right. 
But that's what's going to help 

1441
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,350
people make the most of your 
time. 

1442
00:57:15,460 --> 00:57:18,030
Then you can go XYZ. 
Look, I've spent two hours 

1443
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,330
planning my PA. 
I've still got a mark after 

1444
00:57:20,340 --> 00:57:22,610
school and those things you want
me to get done, they've just 

1445
00:57:22,620 --> 00:57:23,990
gone down the list. 
I'm sorry, I've had that. 

1446
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,870
Conversation. 
Or more likely, I spent my whole

1447
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,720
PA planning and I've only done 
about 20% of. 

1448
00:57:27,730 --> 00:57:28,550
My planning. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1449
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,370
What do you want me to do guys? 
Because that's my whole 

1450
00:57:30,380 --> 00:57:31,680
dedicated time for this week for
it. 

1451
00:57:31,690 --> 00:57:33,660
I've had that conversation 
before. 5 hours of planning 

1452
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:34,960
left. 
You know, I need to do these two

1453
00:57:34,970 --> 00:57:38,840
reports, these 3 reports, and 
it's and and and I said I will 

1454
00:57:38,850 --> 00:57:39,630
do it. 
I promise. 

1455
00:57:39,830 --> 00:57:41,660
It's part of my job. 
It's my profession. 

1456
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:43,080
Of course I'll do this. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1457
00:57:43,090 --> 00:57:44,580
When I can. 
Well, here's reality. 

1458
00:57:44,590 --> 00:57:47,500
Right now, right now, this week,
I've got about 8 hours of 

1459
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:50,440
planning to do for next week. 
I've got to get it done. 

1460
00:57:50,450 --> 00:57:52,060
It has to be done and I've just 
got to do it. 

1461
00:57:52,070 --> 00:57:54,070
And it's like that's four weeks 
of PPA. 

1462
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,330
Yeah, I never would have that 
done in school anyway. 

1463
00:57:56,380 --> 00:57:57,550
Yeah. 
So yeah, it's, you know, there 

1464
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,580
are things I just broken. 
Well, at least on nicely to my 

1465
00:57:59,590 --> 00:58:01,030
last point. 
And this is not a big point 

1466
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,060
really to talk about, but we can
mention it. 

1467
00:58:03,070 --> 00:58:05,880
So good ones like a bonus. 6th 
Yeah, it kind of goes on from 

1468
00:58:05,890 --> 00:58:10,550
what you're saying, and that is 
speak up, talk to people, but 

1469
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,010
talk to the right people. 
That's the problem that I see a 

1470
00:58:13,020 --> 00:58:15,310
lot of the time and the problem 
I've made and I still make all 

1471
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,990
the time Now. 
Everyone loves a good moan. 

1472
00:58:17,060 --> 00:58:20,590
You're really good at this. 
Well as in as in doing this 

1473
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,510
point I do both. 
No you're really good at it and 

1474
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,860
and and you know you can have a 
read for your own back sometimes

1475
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:27,710
because you can get known as the
person who you complaining. 

1476
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,710
Again, you're moaning, but do 
you know what You What do you 

1477
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:31,250
do? 
Then what? 

1478
00:58:31,260 --> 00:58:33,380
What do you mean? 
I tell you why I've got better 

1479
00:58:33,390 --> 00:58:36,240
at it, at least so you might 
speak. 

1480
00:58:36,250 --> 00:58:39,050
So if you're burning out and 
like Dylan said, you you kind of

1481
00:58:39,060 --> 00:58:41,610
put in place the things you're 
doing everything you can do to 

1482
00:58:41,620 --> 00:58:43,330
not burn out. 
You're not, You're not just sat 

1483
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,530
there waiting, PA, or sitting 
after school talking to your 

1484
00:58:46,540 --> 00:58:48,560
partner teacher for two hours 
and then saying, oh, I've got so

1485
00:58:48,570 --> 00:58:50,370
much markings to do and you 
could have done it two hours. 

1486
00:58:50,380 --> 00:58:53,500
You know, if you're already 
doing your job effectively and 

1487
00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:55,810
you're burning out, speak to the
right people. 

1488
00:58:55,820 --> 00:58:58,710
Actually go to your head 
teacher, not don't just go to 

1489
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,910
your TA who you know or just lap
up everything you say and like, 

1490
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,860
fuel you a bit more. 
Or that other teacher in the 

1491
00:59:03,870 --> 00:59:06,750
school that's pissed off about 
something that you can go to and

1492
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,520
you know they're going to be 
with you and then you can both 

1493
00:59:08,530 --> 00:59:10,040
be like, yeah, we hate this 
school. 

1494
00:59:10,430 --> 00:59:13,420
That is good to do sometimes 
because you do need to vent, but

1495
00:59:13,470 --> 00:59:18,720
also do actually raise the point
in a formal professional way to 

1496
00:59:18,730 --> 00:59:22,000
the people who could change it. 
And then one of two things will 

1497
00:59:22,010 --> 00:59:24,440
happen. 
They'll change it or they won't 

1498
00:59:24,450 --> 00:59:27,140
and then you're just then you're
justified in you're moaning and 

1499
00:59:27,150 --> 00:59:29,040
and and actually then there's a 
real problem there. 

1500
00:59:29,050 --> 00:59:31,960
And then that can become a wider
school issue that you tackle as 

1501
00:59:31,970 --> 00:59:33,390
a staff team. 
I don't know how it will go from

1502
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,430
there. 
That's up to you and your 

1503
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,670
school. 
But if you don't at least try to

1504
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,900
tell the right people, then can 
you expect anything to change? 

1505
00:59:40,940 --> 00:59:42,550
And it's happened to me lots of 
times in my career. 

1506
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,610
Earlier on in my career, I get 
very riled up about stuff and 

1507
00:59:46,660 --> 00:59:49,230
I'd let it get too. 
I'd let it get to me too much. 

1508
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,560
And then what I'd end up doing 
is I'd send an e-mail to myself 

1509
00:59:51,570 --> 00:59:55,450
or the head teacher and it was a
pissy e-mail and it would come 

1510
00:59:55,460 --> 00:59:58,170
across as a pissy, rude e-mail. 
Then you're on the back foot. 

1511
00:59:58,180 --> 01:00:00,490
Straight and then yeah, you know
and that wasn't that wasn't good

1512
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:04,350
and and over the years I've 
learned to one stop emailing and

1513
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,710
just go and talk to people as 
much as possible and then. 

1514
01:00:06,790 --> 01:00:09,780
Starts up as an e-mail just to 
say just thank you for talking 

1515
01:00:09,790 --> 01:00:11,050
to me. 
Here are the points I raised. 

1516
01:00:11,060 --> 01:00:14,610
Yeah and and two just if I do 
write an e-mail, actually just 

1517
01:00:14,620 --> 01:00:16,480
be professional about it. 
You might be pissed off, but do 

1518
01:00:16,490 --> 01:00:17,720
you know what? 
They could. 

1519
01:00:17,730 --> 01:00:21,630
The SLT might also just not know
because most of the time people 

1520
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,740
moan behind their backs and 
don't actually tell them. 

1521
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:26,250
And the amount of times I've 
said something to SLT and 

1522
01:00:26,260 --> 01:00:28,440
they've been like, oh thank you 
for telling me, I didn't realise

1523
01:00:28,450 --> 01:00:30,150
that that everyone was thinking 
this across the school. 

1524
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,730
I didn't even know this was a 
problem. 

1525
01:00:31,780 --> 01:00:34,210
Thanks. 
And then and then it gets fixed 

1526
01:00:34,220 --> 01:00:35,190
usually. 
Sometimes. 

1527
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,160
Yeah, but what I mean is like, 
at least then it's a 

1528
01:00:37,170 --> 01:00:38,200
conversation. 
Exactly. 

1529
01:00:38,210 --> 01:00:39,280
At least then it's out in the. 
Open. 

1530
01:00:39,290 --> 01:00:40,640
So I don't know. 
That's my last point. 

1531
01:00:40,650 --> 01:00:43,000
Speak up, tell the correct 
people and actually expect help 

1532
01:00:43,010 --> 01:00:44,220
as well. 
You know, don't expect nothing. 

1533
01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:46,940
If they don't not doing anything
then you can take it further. 

1534
01:00:46,990 --> 01:00:49,230
Now these tips aren't 
automatically going to solve by 

1535
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,460
now because like we said, there 
are external factors are 

1536
01:00:51,470 --> 01:00:53,990
contributing massively. 
Teacher burnout, I think these 

1537
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,220
are really sensible first steps 
that we've taken have helped us 

1538
01:00:58,670 --> 01:01:00,240
that hopefully you guys can take
as well. 

1539
01:01:00,250 --> 01:01:01,670
You might do the more you might 
do none of them. 

1540
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,240
Try them out. 
Can I just say one thing I did 

1541
01:01:03,290 --> 01:01:05,060
that's not related to these 
steps, but it might be. 

1542
01:01:05,070 --> 01:01:07,980
It might be good to hear. 
One time I really really did 

1543
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:09,710
burn. 
Now I was working in A1 form 

1544
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,490
entry school year 6 lead or year
6 lead the the year 6 teacher 

1545
01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:14,810
and I was trying to do some 
curriculum stuff. 

1546
01:01:14,820 --> 01:01:16,490
As well, but. 
It's a brand new, like a brand 

1547
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:18,540
new was nothing there. 
It was the first ever year six. 

1548
01:01:18,550 --> 01:01:20,410
There was no planning to go off.
It was all from scratch. 

1549
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,510
I absolutely burnt out, said you
know what I did? 

1550
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,550
I quit and I went to another 
school and you know what? 

1551
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,840
That's OK. 
Sometimes you can, you can just 

1552
01:01:26,850 --> 01:01:28,550
cut your losses. 
Someone else might have come in 

1553
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,880
and done that and maybe maybe 
they're burnout thresholds 

1554
01:01:30,890 --> 01:01:32,430
higher and they they relished in
it. 

1555
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,270
They did like going above and 
beyond like Dylan was talking 

1556
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,770
about earlier. 
But for me at that time, in that

1557
01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:39,380
context of my life at that 
moment, I couldn't do it. 

1558
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:42,000
I couldn't do it. 
I burned out and rather than 

1559
01:01:42,010 --> 01:01:43,880
just sticking it through and. 
You became a feeling. 

1560
01:01:43,890 --> 01:01:45,290
Even more stressed, I would go 
what? 

1561
01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:47,640
You became a failure. 
A failure I was in a fair way. 

1562
01:01:47,650 --> 01:01:49,340
I was like, we talk about we 
golf involved. 

1563
01:01:49,390 --> 01:01:51,000
No, no. 
Yeah, but it's, you know, and 

1564
01:01:51,010 --> 01:01:53,340
you might be sat there thinking 
about my school will block all 

1565
01:01:53,350 --> 01:01:55,180
of these things, OK, maybe the 
schools, the problem. 

1566
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:58,570
Maybe we should leave. 
Yeah, nice one. 

1567
01:01:58,580 --> 01:02:00,540
Well, they're our top tips guys.
Hopefully they help you. 

1568
01:02:00,550 --> 01:02:02,840
We're gonna have a quick Jingle 
and we've got that game and the 

1569
01:02:02,850 --> 01:02:09,280
F Word story. 
Right, Dylan, what are you 

1570
01:02:09,290 --> 01:02:11,040
talking about with? 
The welcome back we did. 

1571
01:02:11,050 --> 01:02:12,400
We did the Jingle and he turned 
to me. 

1572
01:02:12,410 --> 01:02:14,610
So seriously that puppy dog eyes
like what's the F word, you 

1573
01:02:14,620 --> 01:02:15,680
know. 
This is his memory. 

1574
01:02:15,690 --> 01:02:16,730
Guys. 
By the way, I don't know. 

1575
01:02:16,770 --> 01:02:18,620
Do you remember we talked about 
this whole. 

1576
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:20,440
OK, honestly have no idea right 
at the start. 

1577
01:02:20,450 --> 01:02:22,900
Guys, if you do have a memory 
longer than a goldfish, I'm like

1578
01:02:22,910 --> 01:02:24,360
Hayden. 
You might remember at the start 

1579
01:02:24,370 --> 01:02:26,640
we talked about doing cuts 
because I kept saying F1 about 

1580
01:02:26,650 --> 01:02:28,350
that. 
OK And I said, do you wanna hear

1581
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,430
the F word story to you? 
And you? 

1582
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,460
Yes. 
And you said no. 

1583
01:02:32,510 --> 01:02:36,230
And I laughed and then I'll tell
you later it's a very brief 

1584
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,850
effort story when you train as a
teacher, if you decided to go 

1585
01:02:39,860 --> 01:02:42,410
into that Ave of going to 
university for a year to do PGCE

1586
01:02:42,420 --> 01:02:45,650
like I did, you have to do some 
days in school first just to 

1587
01:02:45,660 --> 01:02:47,370
know that it's what you want to 
do. 

1588
01:02:47,380 --> 01:02:49,810
It's just a weed out people who 
are basically just saying ohh 

1589
01:02:49,820 --> 01:02:51,690
yeah I'll do that. 
You've got to go and do 10 days 

1590
01:02:51,700 --> 01:02:53,890
in a school. 
So I did 5 days at my old school

1591
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,990
and five days at a different 
local school that I'd never been

1592
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,450
into before in the different 
local school hadn't been in 

1593
01:02:58,460 --> 01:02:59,900
before. 
You got to remember I'm just 

1594
01:02:59,910 --> 01:03:05,400
some 20 year old fanic kid and I
I must admit, I maybe it's cause

1595
01:03:05,410 --> 01:03:08,420
I've got Northerners. 
Northerners family swearing is 

1596
01:03:08,430 --> 01:03:10,080
just a part of our lingo. 
OK? 

1597
01:03:10,090 --> 01:03:12,900
It's just the way we talk, 
Hayden and I, when we're not in 

1598
01:03:12,910 --> 01:03:14,040
school, when we're not doing 
well. 

1599
01:03:14,050 --> 01:03:15,770
Even within the podcast, 
sometimes we try not. 

1600
01:03:15,780 --> 01:03:18,770
Me, I swear, like nothing else. 
And I'm trying not to now around

1601
01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:22,190
Rory, obviously. 
However, we went into school. 

1602
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,890
I went into school and, you 
know, I was just this extra 

1603
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:27,270
body, you know, the type, just 
straight out of school. 

1604
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,070
No experience with kids 
whatsoever. 

1605
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,050
A burden of anything in the 
classroom, a complete burden. 

1606
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,750
So there was this afternoon, and
I got sent out to play some 

1607
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,000
games with some kids. 
Looking back now, they're just 

1608
01:03:37,010 --> 01:03:38,040
probably trying to get rid of 
me. 

1609
01:03:38,050 --> 01:03:39,870
And they're like these kids, Get
him out of the classroom. 

1610
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,940
One Dylan can go with them. 
We're playing snakes and 

1611
01:03:41,950 --> 01:03:43,430
ladders. 
OK, Right. 

1612
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:44,950
So I'm going to ask you to beat 
this. 

1613
01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:47,170
All right. 
OK. 

1614
01:03:47,350 --> 01:03:48,840
Yeah. 
We're playing snakes and 

1615
01:03:48,850 --> 01:03:50,210
ladders. 
You didn't swear at them? 

1616
01:03:50,510 --> 01:03:52,200
And we were playing Snakes and 
Ladders, right? 

1617
01:03:52,210 --> 01:03:53,360
And I was. 
I was losing. 

1618
01:03:53,370 --> 01:03:55,580
Then I got ahead of the kid, you
know, Snakes and Ladders. 

1619
01:03:55,590 --> 01:03:57,860
It's up and down. 
And then a snake, damn it. 

1620
01:03:57,870 --> 01:03:59,960
And then there was a ladder. 
Bloody hell. 

1621
01:03:59,970 --> 01:04:01,950
And I was on the last row about 
to beat him. 

1622
01:04:01,990 --> 01:04:03,440
And I rolled. 
I rolled. 

1623
01:04:03,450 --> 01:04:06,610
I rolled A4, right. 
I rolled A4 or whatever it was. 

1624
01:04:06,620 --> 01:04:09,560
Yeah. 
I went across 9697. 

1625
01:04:09,570 --> 01:04:16,420
Landed on the snake and the kid 
went, what did you just say? 

1626
01:04:16,430 --> 01:04:19,280
And I was like, ohh dear, no you
didn't. 

1627
01:04:19,290 --> 01:04:21,360
I was like, yeah, yeah, I said 
ohh dear, no, you dear, you 

1628
01:04:21,370 --> 01:04:23,080
swore. 
No, shut up, kid. 

1629
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:28,220
Yeah, keeping my career was over
already 'cause I was annoyed. 

1630
01:04:28,310 --> 01:04:30,410
So a 7 year old was about to 
beat me. 

1631
01:04:30,450 --> 01:04:31,380
Space. 
So funny. 

1632
01:04:31,390 --> 01:04:32,700
I love that. 
It happens. 

1633
01:04:32,710 --> 01:04:34,090
It happens. 
And I'd like to think the 

1634
01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:36,160
winner, the only two people that
have accidentally sworn about 

1635
01:04:36,170 --> 01:04:38,520
children in nine years. 
But it has happened, you know, 

1636
01:04:38,530 --> 01:04:40,200
been a couple of times in my 
career where I've just 

1637
01:04:40,210 --> 01:04:42,940
accidentally, yeah, of course, 
maybe just been too comfortable 

1638
01:04:42,950 --> 01:04:44,700
in what? 
Saying ohh MG. 

1639
01:04:44,710 --> 01:04:47,720
It's usually when with kids that
are just really nice and really 

1640
01:04:47,730 --> 01:04:49,910
like just chilled out kids that 
you can be normal around. 

1641
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,370
Yeah. 
And I've just accidentally said 

1642
01:04:51,380 --> 01:04:53,850
something Ohh you tell the head 
teacher. 

1643
01:04:53,860 --> 01:04:55,110
Ohh no. 
I've done this and they usually 

1644
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:56,630
like it's fine. 
Yeah, of course. 

1645
01:04:57,070 --> 01:04:59,000
That's the only thing. 
Obviously I told the teacher at 

1646
01:04:59,010 --> 01:05:00,880
the end and she was like, don't 
worry about it and it was all 

1647
01:05:00,890 --> 01:05:02,850
sorted, just be open. 
We'll just, we'll just say, 

1648
01:05:02,860 --> 01:05:04,060
yeah, it was an accident. 
It happens. 

1649
01:05:04,110 --> 01:05:05,800
Yeah, of course. 
As if they've never heard these 

1650
01:05:05,810 --> 01:05:08,060
words before. 
Yeah, that's funny. 

1651
01:05:08,070 --> 01:05:11,430
But yeah, that's my remember 
thinking I'm done with this 

1652
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,880
career is finished. 
So what's the F word story 

1653
01:05:15,820 --> 01:05:16,260
anyway? 
We're. 

1654
01:05:16,270 --> 01:05:18,730
Gonna finish right guys, Here 
are top tips for. 

1655
01:05:19,620 --> 01:05:21,570
You haven't done your tips yet. 
No, no, no, no. 

1656
01:05:21,580 --> 01:05:23,110
Forgotten them. 
You forgotten the in between 

1657
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,230
bits. 
Anyway, you got game Aiden. 

1658
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,850
Let's finish off another game in
ages. 

1659
01:05:26,860 --> 01:05:30,610
It's a really quick it's a game.
It's more like a theoretical 

1660
01:05:30,620 --> 01:05:31,570
Hayden. 
So it's obviously not. 

1661
01:05:31,580 --> 01:05:33,890
It's not. 
But anyway, it's just I saw this

1662
01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:36,480
online and I thought this would 
be funny to say, not seeing this

1663
01:05:36,490 --> 01:05:39,170
completely. 
OK, so you can all play along. 

1664
01:05:39,660 --> 01:05:43,320
Thank you. 
You can now tell them, do you 

1665
01:05:43,330 --> 01:05:44,650
think about it as well? 
They can't just listen. 

1666
01:05:44,660 --> 01:05:48,590
They can play. 
You have developed a new power. 

1667
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,050
I have the only person in the 
world who's got this power. 

1668
01:05:51,180 --> 01:05:55,270
It's called Mole man, man. 
Got 3 moulds baby. 

1669
01:05:55,280 --> 01:06:01,650
It's got moles for nipples. 
So you can now see a number. 

1670
01:06:01,780 --> 01:06:04,190
Of moles. 
Ohh you can. 

1671
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,170
This could be your. 
Answer. 

1672
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,820
You can now see a number. 
Ohh, I know you're gonna say. 

1673
01:06:07,830 --> 01:06:09,680
Go on. 
You can now see a number above 

1674
01:06:09,690 --> 01:06:12,010
everybody's head. 
OK, only you can see this number

1675
01:06:12,020 --> 01:06:15,240
and only you have this power. 
What would you? 

1676
01:06:15,250 --> 01:06:16,780
Like how many moles do they 
have? 

1677
01:06:18,230 --> 01:06:20,640
This is what would you like the 
number to display? 

1678
01:06:20,650 --> 01:06:21,560
Well, that's really. 
Cool. 

1679
01:06:21,610 --> 01:06:23,490
OK, so you get to choose what is
one thing. 

1680
01:06:23,500 --> 01:06:26,080
You can't change this, Yeah? 
So OK, and it's always true. 

1681
01:06:26,090 --> 01:06:28,030
It's always true. 
So you guys can all, you can all

1682
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,240
see a number above someone's 
head. 

1683
01:06:29,250 --> 01:06:31,660
Ohh, that's interesting. 
What do you what would you pick 

1684
01:06:31,730 --> 01:06:33,610
that number to display? 
Or anything ever. 

1685
01:06:33,620 --> 01:06:35,980
It could be about them, it could
be the number, could be 

1686
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:38,040
anything. 
Oh my There'll be an individual 

1687
01:06:38,050 --> 01:06:39,470
number per person above their 
head. 

1688
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,080
Umm. 
What do you want it? 

1689
01:06:41,090 --> 01:06:46,350
To be the number of money I ohh,
that's really good. 

1690
01:06:46,540 --> 01:06:48,410
Can I see my own one? 
Yeah. 

1691
01:06:48,420 --> 01:06:50,740
Yeah, ohh, because I was. 
Gonna Yeah, yeah, you can see 

1692
01:06:50,750 --> 01:06:51,770
your own. 
Have a look in the mirror. 

1693
01:06:51,780 --> 01:06:53,120
I've got my number. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1694
01:06:53,130 --> 01:06:54,650
I don't know. 
There's that classic one of just

1695
01:06:54,740 --> 01:06:57,700
how many minutes they have left.
Yeah, when you're gonna die. 

1696
01:06:57,710 --> 01:06:59,140
Yeah, kind of. 
Because that's such a weird 

1697
01:06:59,150 --> 01:07:00,510
thing. 
I think that's a big part of our

1698
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,480
culture where it's like, well, 
weird that we just accept we 

1699
01:07:04,490 --> 01:07:06,150
have no idea. 
It could be any time. 

1700
01:07:06,260 --> 01:07:08,790
And I just don't think about it,
but I think I'd be just that 

1701
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,100
can't be because. 
I become obsessed. 

1702
01:07:11,020 --> 01:07:13,300
There's so many things you could
you could go down the emotional 

1703
01:07:13,310 --> 01:07:14,430
route. 
Could you have like how many 

1704
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,400
bugs they're gonna? 
Give ohh Wow. 

1705
01:07:16,410 --> 01:07:17,900
Was that being abused? 
No, no. 

1706
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:19,540
But you you could do anything 
like that. 

1707
01:07:19,550 --> 01:07:21,860
Yeah, but you could also be like
the the classic thing of like, I

1708
01:07:21,870 --> 01:07:23,760
don't know how much money 
they're gonna make in their 

1709
01:07:23,770 --> 01:07:24,810
life. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1710
01:07:24,850 --> 01:07:26,740
How many, how many times they 
farted today? 

1711
01:07:26,750 --> 01:07:28,300
Here's one. 
He's like anything. 

1712
01:07:28,310 --> 01:07:32,650
How many times more will they 
say their own name before they 

1713
01:07:32,660 --> 01:07:33,720
die? 
Right. 

1714
01:07:33,730 --> 01:07:35,520
Because if minds anything other 
than 0. 

1715
01:07:35,530 --> 01:07:40,710
I'm never going to die. 
I won't say my name, but one 

1716
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,380
left. 
OK, my name is. 

1717
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,370
Yeah, but knowing that, then it 
will just say 0. 

1718
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,560
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 
Cause eventually when I want to 

1719
01:07:47,570 --> 01:07:52,940
die, I'm like, OK didn't. 
What were his last words? 

1720
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:55,100
We must write them down with his
own name. 

1721
01:07:55,150 --> 01:07:57,940
Selfish idiot. 
How many times they said I've 

1722
01:07:57,950 --> 01:08:00,050
had a great life. 
Thanks all for the memories 

1723
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,520
everyone's got one of. 
Yours is just Dylan. 

1724
01:08:04,690 --> 01:08:06,820
Yeah, you know what you want to 
know about people. 

1725
01:08:06,830 --> 01:08:08,710
I. 
Guess how many hours they think 

1726
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:09,940
would be waiting to see in a 
day? 

1727
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:11,920
How many times they streamed to 
teach? 

1728
01:08:11,930 --> 01:08:13,900
Stick with podcast. 
Yeah, the number. 

1729
01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:15,900
The rating they gave for the 
Tech State Repeat podcast? 

1730
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:17,689
We can see you get the one. 
Finally. 

1731
01:08:17,750 --> 01:08:22,270
It was you, Hayden's mum. 
Yeah. 

1732
01:08:22,340 --> 01:08:25,319
So I don't know what I'd pick. 
Yeah, so many. 

1733
01:08:25,330 --> 01:08:29,370
Things tell you what, that was a
great game, all right. 

1734
01:08:30,140 --> 01:08:33,640
The number is your satisfaction,
level 1 to 10 of my gains. 

1735
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,810
Do you know what a game? 
Is that's. 

1736
01:08:35,819 --> 01:08:38,310
That's just a question. 
Shut up. 

1737
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,630
I don't know. 
That's the answer, I reckon. 

1738
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,290
Can we make it a poll or a 
question with the Spotify Yeah, 

1739
01:08:43,300 --> 01:08:45,399
we can make a poll. 
Yeah, Hayden, we can get a poll.

1740
01:08:45,410 --> 01:08:48,550
Where? 
We where we predetermined the 2 

1741
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,250
answers everyone. 
Will say, yeah. 

1742
01:08:51,069 --> 01:08:54,990
Yeah we do, Francis. 
We'll get about two replies and 

1743
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,500
then we'll we'll just ignore it.
Ohh my gosh. 

1744
01:08:57,550 --> 01:09:00,740
I actually put something ohh 
what is Instagram earlier? 

1745
01:09:00,930 --> 01:09:03,800
And I said we're about to go 
live with the podcast we'll 

1746
01:09:03,810 --> 01:09:05,540
finish off with. 
This, excuse me, this is gonna 

1747
01:09:05,550 --> 01:09:06,520
go. 
This is the Backfire. 

1748
01:09:06,529 --> 01:09:08,040
So horribly, Of course. 
Of course it is. 

1749
01:09:08,050 --> 01:09:10,560
Because I thought to myself, you
know what I'll just see? 

1750
01:09:10,649 --> 01:09:13,830
Because we've got about 2 1/2 
thousand followers now on our 

1751
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,399
Instagram and we do get good 
Instagram. 

1752
01:09:16,490 --> 01:09:20,060
It's repeat podcast. 
So we get good, like, we get 

1753
01:09:20,069 --> 01:09:23,870
good interaction on our podcast,
We get good votes, like 100. 

1754
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,069
Yeah, podcasts on our Instagram.
So I just put a story out there 

1755
01:09:27,140 --> 01:09:30,399
right before we started saying 
first person to reply here gets 

1756
01:09:30,410 --> 01:09:31,740
a shout out. 
Didn't you do this literally 

1757
01:09:31,750 --> 01:09:33,510
like 20 seconds before we 
started recording? 

1758
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,390
Yeah yeah. 
So first person to reply here 

1759
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:38,029
gets a shout. 
You've got 3 minutes, we have 3 

1760
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,550
reply. 
Who's the first one? 

1761
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,930
So I will give all three because
it's only three reply. 

1762
01:09:41,939 --> 01:09:46,060
OK, so I'll give all three. 
First one, one of our previous 

1763
01:09:46,069 --> 01:09:49,200
guests, the teachers PT. 
Yeah, go on then. 

1764
01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:51,560
There you go Martin. 
If you wanna hear about Martin, 

1765
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,420
he smashed it on Instagram at 
the minute. 

1766
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:55,620
Lots of really funny memes going
follow him. 

1767
01:09:55,630 --> 01:09:58,680
He is at the teachers PT. 
Especially if you're a teacher. 

1768
01:09:58,690 --> 01:10:00,740
Go and find out how to stay 
healthy and fit and have a laugh

1769
01:10:00,750 --> 01:10:03,540
as well. 
Next one is El Clark, 82, who 

1770
01:10:03,550 --> 01:10:05,020
Simply put an emoji with our 
hand up. 

1771
01:10:05,090 --> 01:10:06,840
So L Clark 82. 
There you go. 

1772
01:10:06,990 --> 01:10:08,420
Hey, I don't know your full 
name. 

1773
01:10:08,430 --> 01:10:09,900
Is it just Li? 
Don't know. 

1774
01:10:09,910 --> 01:10:12,430
Miss Clarke 82. 
Whoever you are, there's your 

1775
01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:13,610
shout out. 
Thanks for listening. 

1776
01:10:13,620 --> 01:10:18,660
And the last one is my mum and 
she's put OK, right. 

1777
01:10:18,670 --> 01:10:21,480
If you can guess the one word, 
my mum's purse, right. 

1778
01:10:21,490 --> 01:10:23,260
This is a game. 
How would if you can guess the 

1779
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:26,540
one word my mum's put, you can 
lead the next week's. 

1780
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:28,100
Podcast how how could I 
possibly? 

1781
01:10:28,110 --> 01:10:30,120
Shut up and guess. 
What I don't know. 

1782
01:10:30,130 --> 01:10:34,520
One word underfed. 
No, she's put gangster, 

1783
01:10:34,670 --> 01:10:38,060
gangster, gangster. 
What did they what did Jonah at 

1784
01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:40,100
3:00? 
17 What did my mum put? 

1785
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:42,290
Your mum? 
She put. 

1786
01:10:42,350 --> 01:10:47,960
Why is my name spelt weird? 
That's the name of my mom is a 

1787
01:10:47,970 --> 01:10:51,140
good story actually started. 
I've actually there you go, he 

1788
01:10:51,150 --> 01:10:53,190
said his memory, cause I've told
the story on this podcast. 

1789
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,830
Before told it, see, go back and
check it out. 

1790
01:10:56,020 --> 01:10:57,350
Right guys, we're finished 
there. 

1791
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,220
Hayden started this again by 
saying it might be a short one 

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01:10:59,230 --> 01:11:00,090
today. 
New. 

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01:11:00,100 --> 01:11:02,650
It's me and you, Hayden. 
We're gonna chat, chat, chat 

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01:11:02,660 --> 01:11:06,220
waffled about crap. 
OK, hope you enjoyed our tips 

1795
01:11:06,230 --> 01:11:08,540
though and we do. 
We do live and breathe them and 

1796
01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:11,000
it has helped with our teacher. 
Follow us on Instagram, give our

1797
01:11:11,010 --> 01:11:13,120
podcast to follow and give it a 
rating please. 

1798
01:11:13,130 --> 01:11:15,270
And why not share with a friend?
We're one years old. 

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Bye.
