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Hello, hello. 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,900 Hey everyone and welcome to episode 2 of teach sleep. 20 00:01:08,900 --> 00:01:12,300 Repeat, my name is Dylan and my name is Hayden and we have been 21 00:01:12,300 --> 00:01:14,600 overwhelmed by the response to the first episode. 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,400 Thank you so much to everyone who listened, we had teachers 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,100 non-teachers, and we even received some lovely feedback 24 00:01:20,100 --> 00:01:22,100 that we had them. Oh, really nice feedback. 25 00:01:22,100 --> 00:01:25,700 The first feedback that I got was why do you sound so weird 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,700 when you say your name? So I've Now really 27 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:31,400 self-conscious about that. Was that when you introduce 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,500 yourself at the start, yeah, the paper I said and I'm Hayden or 29 00:01:34,500 --> 00:01:37,700 my name's Hayden so I've run it through about 12 different ways 30 00:01:37,700 --> 00:01:39,700 now and I just think they all sound strange. 31 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:41,500 So hopefully you guys can let me know. 32 00:01:41,900 --> 00:01:44,800 Yeah, make sure you rewind. This podcast a bit guys and 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,700 listen because I wasn't paying attention to your not going to 34 00:01:46,700 --> 00:01:49,800 lie because I was too busy thinking about this week's 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,400 episode. And this week, I know, we're on 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,800 the same page here, Hayden, but I thought what we should do 37 00:01:54,900 --> 00:01:57,300 after talking about the strikes last week and perhaps doing 38 00:01:57,300 --> 00:02:01,500 something quite Heavy. We wanted to switch up a bit and 39 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:04,000 go really positive this week. Isn't that right? 40 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,800 Yeah, I think going back to like when we thought about doing this 41 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,300 podcast, we really wanted to make something kind of fun, a 42 00:02:09,308 --> 00:02:11,800 little bit, silly something relatable perhaps but it was 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,600 just irresistible. Wasn't it last week that we can? 44 00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:17,100 How could we not talk about the strikes when it was such a, 45 00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:18,700 something we're really passionate about, to be honest 46 00:02:18,700 --> 00:02:20,500 with you, we are genuinely passionate. 47 00:02:20,500 --> 00:02:22,300 We wanted to talk about it. Yeah, definitely. 48 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:24,600 I think we should we should lighten up a little bit. 49 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,000 I'm just going to say right now. I'm not gonna lie to you guys. 50 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:31,100 It is Season of illness in school, right? 51 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:34,300 I have not been able to shake off this cold for about two 52 00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:36,200 months. So if you feel like I'm 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,500 struggling to breathe and out of breath just through talking, 54 00:02:38,700 --> 00:02:40,600 you're absolutely right. Because that's how I feel right 55 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,000 now, but there's a cure, isn't it? 56 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,700 Dylan? Oh yeah, there's something that 57 00:02:43,700 --> 00:02:46,100 is a cure for both of us. Actually, what's that? 58 00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:49,100 It's the season of cream eggs, right now, it's Green Mix 59 00:02:49,100 --> 00:02:50,900 season. I love cream mix season, and 60 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:52,400 that's how I know Easter is around the corner. 61 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,800 Be, and Christmas is done because I walk into the shop, 62 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,200 and I see a succulent five bucks, cream eggs. 63 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,500 And I just My face lights up and it's almost as if I'm not there 64 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:02,700 anymore. If I ever need to cheer Dylan up 65 00:03:02,700 --> 00:03:04,700 and you know, he knows this is true, it's not very often that 66 00:03:04,700 --> 00:03:07,900 I'll do something nice, but I'll come round his house. 67 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,700 I'll drop a drop a box of cream eggs at his door, and that'll 68 00:03:10,700 --> 00:03:13,600 cheer him up. Genuinely, I honestly, feel like 69 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,600 when I was younger, I didn't necessarily understand why. 70 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,500 You know, people might like flowers delivered. 71 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:23,300 I like what I do flowers, when I received a pack of 53 makes I 72 00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:25,900 get the feeling I understand it now and they don't last long. 73 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,800 So that's enough about cream, eggs Dylan. 74 00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:30,800 Let's This podcast back to its core, I'm going to ask you a 75 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,400 question. What is your favorite part about 76 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,800 teaching? I want to clarify. 77 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,100 I love this job. I really, really do because I 78 00:03:37,108 --> 00:03:40,100 wouldn't carry on doing otherwise and my favorite part 79 00:03:40,100 --> 00:03:42,900 it boils down to and maybe you agree. 80 00:03:42,900 --> 00:03:46,200 I'm sure you do the children, the children, the children, the 81 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,600 children, whether it's helping them understand, something, it 82 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,300 didn't know before. That's a really, really nice 83 00:03:51,300 --> 00:03:54,200 feeling as a teacher when you help them to grasp A New 84 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,100 Concept, they've been struggling with but also just working. 85 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,000 With them, they are pure Lon. They are funny. 86 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,300 And actually I asked just enjoy standing in front of them, 87 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,500 delivering lessons and getting to know them. 88 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,100 Yeah, I think I agree. I was really trying to think 89 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:13,100 before we start this podcast about, when what days do I come 90 00:04:13,100 --> 00:04:15,500 home? And feel like, really bust, and 91 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:19,000 it is always those days where I've had an interaction with a 92 00:04:19,007 --> 00:04:22,400 child, or group of children. We're like the relationship 93 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,500 between us has really developed. Like we've had a personal Bond 94 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:28,100 and that child has maybe gone home feeling really good. 95 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,700 Because I just maybe help them with a, like a social problem or 96 00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:33,900 like you said help them actually in a lesson learning something 97 00:04:33,900 --> 00:04:35,500 like it's not always just about the lessons. 98 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:36,600 Yeah. And I think later on in the 99 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,600 podcast will go into more detail about that and dive deeper into 100 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:42,100 how to form those relationships and why they actually might be 101 00:04:42,100 --> 00:04:44,600 beneficial in the long run and where's the line? 102 00:04:44,900 --> 00:04:49,200 But for now I think what I wanted to do and you already 103 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,900 know because I've asked you to prepare this. 104 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,300 Oh yeah. Is we have scoured our brains? 105 00:04:54,300 --> 00:04:58,100 Our mind palaces our memories for our favorite story. 106 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,000 He's from our years and years of teaching, I think between us we 107 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,300 are honestly closing in on about 20 years of teaching right now. 108 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,600 So we've got plenty of stories and we wanted to give you a 109 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,000 snippet of our favorite so I'm going to start us off. 110 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,100 Hayden go on for context if anybody doesn't know us Hayden 111 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:18,600 and I we worked in the same school to start with. 112 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,200 That's how we met each other. We went to school together in 113 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,900 secondary school. We're in different year groups 114 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:25,100 and then we ended up working together for quite a few years. 115 00:05:25,300 --> 00:05:27,600 We've gone, our separate ways. We've come back, we've worked 116 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,700 all over the Time but initially, we worked in the same school and 117 00:05:31,700 --> 00:05:34,100 this story is absolutely brilliant. 118 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:37,100 So I like to set the scene. You're in celebration assembly, 119 00:05:37,300 --> 00:05:40,900 big, big assembly celebration assembly, every single Friday, 120 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,100 the kids are pumped. They walk in every staff members 121 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:46,900 down the side on their chairs year, six or on the benches 122 00:05:46,900 --> 00:05:48,400 Freedom, that the big boys at the back. 123 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,500 And we had a teacher who was an assistant head and he led the 124 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:57,500 celebration assemblies every week and he was the perfect 125 00:05:57,500 --> 00:06:01,100 person to Do this because he was so extra. 126 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,600 He was so over the top. We'd have, We Are the Champions 127 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,700 blast them on the speakers as they come in, we have celebrate 128 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:09,300 good times. The kids would be bougie and 129 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:12,400 dancing and this guy he'd be handing out the certificates for 130 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,100 every class and if you talk about it, right? 131 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:19,700 This week young Penelope, she has been absolutely perfect in 132 00:06:19,700 --> 00:06:22,100 maths. She's been smashing her TT rock 133 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:24,500 stars. Let's give it up for this girl. 134 00:06:24,500 --> 00:06:27,200 Lets go and the crowd to be going wild and he be so extra 135 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,600 over the top. And it got to the end of 136 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,000 assembly and there's one certificate left on the side. 137 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,500 It's laminated it's almost like thick plastic, it's shiny. 138 00:06:36,700 --> 00:06:38,800 It's like the the trophy everyone wants. 139 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,500 He picks up and he's bending down. 140 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:44,600 Crouching down to the level of the children and he goes, right. 141 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,300 We've got one more big award here. 142 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,300 Who's ready to find out? Who's got this one, this person 143 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:55,300 has been caring considerate. He's reading off this job. 144 00:06:56,500 --> 00:07:04,600 And he gets to the day he goes and it's to bungo and no kid, 145 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,300 stands up, no one wants to claim the trophy so he's trying to 146 00:07:07,300 --> 00:07:10,700 keep up this facade. Bungo anyone? 147 00:07:11,100 --> 00:07:15,200 I've got a big trophy here, he's been brilliant, all term, it's 148 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,300 bungo, does anyone know a bungo anyone know a bungalow in the 149 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:19,600 school? He's clearly worried at this 150 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,200 point because he knows everyone's name and he started 151 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,000 to realize there is no Pongo and this girl just puts her hand up 152 00:07:25,300 --> 00:07:29,500 really Slowly in the middle of assembly and he has yes and she 153 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:43,100 is I think that's the school dinner menu menu that's in a 154 00:07:43,100 --> 00:07:47,000 laminating pouch and bungo is the name of a one-ball. 155 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,400 It was a promotion for the one ball still TV. 156 00:07:51,100 --> 00:07:54,800 Only have one memory, one memory of this and it is just the sight 157 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,100 of teachers. Big up and down on that jazz 158 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,200 trying to hold it in as they were creasing up, knowing 159 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,700 watching their fellow colleague. Make a complete fool of himself 160 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,900 reading out the school dinner menu, a classic villain and if 161 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:11,000 that assistant head is listening to, this just know that you are 162 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,400 a legend and many people think of this story and laugh, and it 163 00:08:14,407 --> 00:08:15,900 brings them lots of Joy. So, thank you. 164 00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:17,000 Absolutely. Absolutely. 165 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,100 What an amazing guy. Well, I've got a story for you 166 00:08:19,100 --> 00:08:21,200 as well. Dylan, maybe not as funny as 167 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,100 that one, but it's kind of at my expense, really, to be honest 168 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:24,800 with you. This one. 169 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:26,300 Not so much. At someone else. 170 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:27,600 Oh, they're my favorite kind of stories. 171 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,900 So this one's a bit more recent couple years ago during the 172 00:08:30,900 --> 00:08:31,800 covid. X. 173 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:33,200 No one is to speak about anymore. 174 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:38,500 We had the opportunity to have our vaccinations a bit earlier 175 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:41,299 because they were still doing the kind of age bracket 176 00:08:41,299 --> 00:08:43,700 vaccination. So, like the over 70s, I think 177 00:08:43,700 --> 00:08:47,200 it wasn't about over-60s, maybe over 50s around that time, 178 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,800 something like that. Either way it wasn't down to us 179 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,100 yet and for context at the time, I was 28. 180 00:08:53,500 --> 00:08:57,500 I'm 30 now. But 28 is really important 181 00:08:57,500 --> 00:09:02,600 number so I was dismissing the children of my class and as 182 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,300 always, having a couple of interactions with parents and 183 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,300 one of the children went and told their parent. 184 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:11,700 Oh, my teacher had that vaccination today because we 185 00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:14,000 were given like a last-minute opportunity to go and get them 186 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,600 from a clinic that just had spares basically. 187 00:09:16,900 --> 00:09:18,900 So we did and I came back to school. 188 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,500 It was all fine. And yeah. 189 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:22,700 The child said that to their parent and the parent comes over 190 00:09:22,700 --> 00:09:26,700 and talks to me. And says, oh, I think they were 191 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:31,000 joking but said, oh, I didn't realize that the the over 50s 192 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,600 were now getting their vaccinations. 193 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,400 You didn't look over 50 and, you know, I she is joking. 194 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,900 And as I haha, yeah, no, no, maybe not the over 50s. 195 00:09:39,900 --> 00:09:41,300 She was like, huh, in all seriousness. 196 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:43,000 I didn't realize they were doing over 40s. 197 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:47,800 And she was dead serious at this point I'm 28 and and this woman 198 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,000 was like sort of joking about me being on the 50 maybe reading my 199 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,800 reaction and realizing that I'm not over 50 but then was 200 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,800 confident enough to be the archaea but he must be in his 201 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,700 40s though. So made that s comma T. 202 00:09:57,700 --> 00:10:00,900 What she was testing the water she came over going on. 203 00:10:00,900 --> 00:10:02,500 This is my chance for all this time. 204 00:10:02,500 --> 00:10:04,900 I'm thinking is he in his 40s or his fifties. 205 00:10:04,900 --> 00:10:07,200 I know what I'll do. I'll joke about him being in his 206 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,700 fifties and I'll see his reaction. 207 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:11,200 Yeah, literally. Literally, I was genuinely quite 208 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,700 offended. I was thinking, I know, I know. 209 00:10:12,700 --> 00:10:15,500 I've not got any hair, I know, I'm I know I'm bored now. 210 00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:20,000 But come on, I'm time in my 20s. I'm not fifth like 40 plus. 211 00:10:20,700 --> 00:10:24,500 Oh man, I just sort of went and then you cried yourself to sleep 212 00:10:24,500 --> 00:10:25,200 again, right? Yeah. 213 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,300 Common theme with a freshman. Okay, my next one. 214 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,800 This is to do with. I'm sure our teachers can relate 215 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:34,800 and we absolutely love it. Let's be real getting cards. 216 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,000 Getting cards and presents and gifts Christmas Time end of 217 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,300 year, right? And again, genuinely, I know 218 00:10:41,300 --> 00:10:45,300 people might say this, I really appreciate the gifts but That 219 00:10:45,300 --> 00:10:48,000 often not even my favorite thing, so it's not like, I'm 220 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,900 just looking for monetary value. I don't want to a massive lovely 221 00:10:51,900 --> 00:10:54,100 gift of a child. Sometimes the written notes on 222 00:10:54,100 --> 00:10:55,700 my favorite and this is an example. 223 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,400 So it's Christmas. This is my first year. 224 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,100 So I'm an Inky T because I'm old enough to have been an amputee 225 00:11:01,100 --> 00:11:04,800 and not nect. I was in nqt and one of my 226 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,500 favorite classes and this child is one of my favorite children. 227 00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:10,800 He was just hilarious. He was one of those guys. 228 00:11:10,900 --> 00:11:13,100 You could just have a laugh, have a joke with, but they 229 00:11:13,100 --> 00:11:16,500 really knew how to work hard. And where the line was and he 230 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:19,400 walked in it's Christmas time and he gave me a bag. 231 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,900 But then I got the card and I love reading the card because 232 00:11:22,300 --> 00:11:24,400 it's one of two things in a card from a child. 233 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,000 It's either dear mr. Price from blank and that's it. 234 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,500 That's fine. Lovely, or they try and be 235 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:32,000 funny. They go over the top, they say a 236 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,100 joke, they draw a picture, either way, absolutely lovely. 237 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:38,800 But I just had a feeling that the way he gave me this card, he 238 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,800 had a kind of smirk on his face and I was ready. 239 00:11:41,900 --> 00:11:44,400 I thought I'd take it and sometimes I wait open them. 240 00:11:44,700 --> 00:11:46,600 But for this one, I said, should I open it now? 241 00:11:46,700 --> 00:11:50,600 And he just very shyly tucked. His chin into his to his neck 242 00:11:50,900 --> 00:11:53,000 and he just kind of give me a quick note and then ran off to 243 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,600 his seat and when he sat down, he was kind of staring at me 244 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,000 like anticipating some that horse is going to be easy to 245 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,700 draw on this picture of Santa and he's going to put a beard on 246 00:12:00,700 --> 00:12:02,900 him and say it's mr. Price or something like that. 247 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:06,900 So I got up and I read it goes dear mr. 248 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:11,200 Price Mark, a, Merry Christmas? Oh, there's no picture anywhere. 249 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,600 Okay, I'll just keep reading. From plank p.s. 250 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:20,500 I know Santa isn't real. This is the year for. 251 00:12:20,500 --> 00:12:23,400 I bet he was waiting so long to tell you, they were staring. 252 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,700 He was staring me like grinning. He give me that little gin, a 253 00:12:25,708 --> 00:12:27,400 little Emoji with, it's just like the side. 254 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,100 Yeah, I know, I'm up to something and all I did in that 255 00:12:30,100 --> 00:12:33,100 moment was I looked at him and I gave him the green back, and 256 00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:36,700 just gave him an odd moment. He knows, you know, I love it 257 00:12:36,700 --> 00:12:40,300 when children, like, do that thing where they think they know 258 00:12:40,300 --> 00:12:43,100 something, they shouldn't know. Like she did, they like, Like I 259 00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:46,000 know this thing and they feel so sneaky about it. 260 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,600 Like the common one for me, is anything about your personal 261 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:49,800 life? Basically, when they realize 262 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,200 you're not an alien, like you actually just human. 263 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:57,300 Now go up to you and be like, I know, you've got Facebook, I'ma 264 00:12:57,300 --> 00:12:58,700 give you the eyes like we're their parents. 265 00:12:58,700 --> 00:13:00,500 Maybe I would, you know, I just looked at it or something. 266 00:13:00,900 --> 00:13:02,900 I know that. I know you've got a girlfriend. 267 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,000 That just think it's like, this crazy fact. 268 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,300 Like, oh my God, my teacher does this normal thing? 269 00:13:09,300 --> 00:13:11,300 Yeah. Like when sometimes you shopping 270 00:13:11,300 --> 00:13:13,700 at the weekend and you see it, You know what's gonna happen, 271 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,400 you see them out and they're like shy, maybe don't say 272 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,200 anything. You know, Monday morning they're 273 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:23,600 going to walk in. Saw you at Tesco just shopping. 274 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,700 Do you have to test every now and then and you shied away from 275 00:13:26,700 --> 00:13:28,900 me when I walk past. So you're very confident now. 276 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:34,700 Talking of the children, loving the idea that I've got some 277 00:13:34,700 --> 00:13:36,100 information, they shouldn't have. 278 00:13:36,100 --> 00:13:39,100 And kind of using that against you like, oh, I know this 279 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,300 Hayden. Do you remember what we used to 280 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:42,200 tell the children? The school? 281 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:45,300 Yeah. Yeah, we've manufactured, 282 00:13:46,100 --> 00:13:50,000 hilarious harmless lie about the Dillon and I, in which we've 283 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,500 convinced basically the whole school to the point, where they 284 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:55,400 like, even tell the younger children that we haven't even 285 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,800 talked yet. That Dylan and I are brothers 286 00:13:57,900 --> 00:13:59,100 Blood Brothers. Okay. 287 00:13:59,300 --> 00:14:02,000 And the best bit is. It's like a Two layered thing. 288 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,300 We felt so smart because you always get those children. 289 00:14:04,300 --> 00:14:05,800 They just they see right through you. 290 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,700 They're like, no, you're not. No, you're not. 291 00:14:07,700 --> 00:14:09,500 No, you're not. No, they just don't stop. 292 00:14:09,700 --> 00:14:12,600 And eventually we were like, okay, let's just cave in and be 293 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,300 that are fine. We're not really brothers. 294 00:14:14,300 --> 00:14:17,500 We're just cousins. And at that point, they like, 295 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:20,200 what they believe that layer. So, then you get, you get the 296 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,500 kids that are like, oh, how did you know mr. 297 00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:22,400 Stephens. Mrs. And mr. 298 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,500 Price of their brothers and then you get the other kids going. 299 00:14:25,100 --> 00:14:27,200 No, they're not. They're just cousins. 300 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,800 To the point where someone that I thought this year, we haven't 301 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,200 actually done this in a long time. 302 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,700 I don't think so. It was a real surprise, but 303 00:14:37,700 --> 00:14:39,800 this, this particular child has a brother, a couple of years 304 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,600 older that I taught a while back when we probably did, you know, 305 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,700 to have a bit of fun with this and say in the middle of a 306 00:14:45,700 --> 00:14:48,400 lesson, one day, I can't report it was on but they just said to 307 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,200 me dead serious in the middle lesson. 308 00:14:50,700 --> 00:14:54,700 So it doesn't your doesn't your brother have one of those and I 309 00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:56,400 would look to him I was like what? 310 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,100 Yeah. Doesn't your brother have one of 311 00:14:58,108 --> 00:15:00,900 those. So What Jimmy then I remembered 312 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,700 I was like, Oh, you mean mr. Price? 313 00:15:02,900 --> 00:15:03,600 Yeah. Yeah. 314 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,400 Yeah. Not just carried on with this 315 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,900 thing was I couldn't believe that this child had lacked has 316 00:15:07,900 --> 00:15:11,500 had this, you know, fact in their head this whole time. 317 00:15:11,500 --> 00:15:13,100 And it just came out in the mid of a lesson. 318 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:14,800 Made me laugh a lot. Brilliant, brilliant. 319 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,000 I've got one memory. It was again, when we used to 320 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,500 work in the same school and we were involved in Mass 321 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:23,400 leadership. Not as much as we are now, but 322 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,500 we were just involved in the mass Hub and we did some pupil 323 00:15:26,500 --> 00:15:29,100 conferencing and at this is one, my favorite things to do in. 324 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:31,900 Is it just talk to the children about what they got up to in 325 00:15:31,900 --> 00:15:34,000 essence because it's just funny sometimes? 326 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:37,400 And there was this one time, I remember, it just happened to be 327 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,800 that. I took a couple of children out 328 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,900 of your maths class. So boy and a girl took them out 329 00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:45,000 and I was asking about what they do in maths, what did you learn 330 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,500 today? What did you learn last week? 331 00:15:46,900 --> 00:15:51,600 And we got to one question boy, laughs. 332 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,200 Oh, I know I'm going to expose you and I just said to her. 333 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,400 Okay. And, you know, just just Mr. 334 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,000 Stevens support you and lessons it. 335 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,700 Do you understand what you're doing each day and he just went. 336 00:16:03,700 --> 00:16:07,800 Yeah. But any kind of hesitated, I was 337 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,900 like, I've got to write this down about Hayden some, it's got 338 00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:15,000 robbed. Yeah, but you know, he does just 339 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,100 go on a bit, doesn't listen? Wait, listen. 340 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,600 I like to tell stories but what was funny about this was he 341 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,200 didn't say he has to go on a bit, doesn't it? 342 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,700 I saw what you mean, and it. Well, you know, he just tells us 343 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:31,000 stories about his life and he just doesn't want you get them 344 00:16:31,008 --> 00:16:36,400 with a mouse brilliant, but that I Really rubbish after that 345 00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:39,500 because I was like, oh no, they don't like my stories. 346 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,100 Well, I think with this one, it he just wanted to crack on his 347 00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:45,000 Mass head and I don't think necessarily it's is to a 348 00:16:45,008 --> 00:16:47,600 detrimental on you to tell to Children some stories. 349 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,800 No, it's fair enough and I will continue to tell my rubbish 350 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,900 stories to the class at inappropriate times because you 351 00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:55,600 know that's what a good teacher does right? 352 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,000 And I will continue to do some people conferencing and find out 353 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,200 how much they all hate it and expose me horribly. 354 00:17:01,300 --> 00:17:03,400 What listen getting stories on me like that. 355 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,500 I've got a story on you which always Makes me laugh. 356 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:07,900 I think I know what's coming a cushy do because I always you 357 00:17:07,900 --> 00:17:10,300 only think of this story. When I say that I'm going to 358 00:17:10,300 --> 00:17:13,200 mock you. So back to assemblies. 359 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:18,400 Again seems to be a theme of this podcast Dylan once was in 360 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,300 assembly with all of us and it was a really special assembly 361 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:23,700 where we have to give like an award to children, but it's not 362 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:26,599 just like your classic end of the week award. 363 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:30,000 We're talking like one child have a whole year group and it's 364 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,000 a really big school. Gets this very special award 365 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,300 every couple of terms and it's supposed to be about Be like 366 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:38,100 some sort of Bravery or something, they've overcome in 367 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:40,500 their life, like a really special thing, Dylan can't 368 00:17:40,500 --> 00:17:43,400 really think of anything or anyone like really particularly 369 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,200 meaningful to give it to you. So you just give it, give it to 370 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,800 a kid that he likes. Someone that just works hard in 371 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,000 class could have been, you know, 20 children. 372 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,000 They just gave to this Channel and this child goes up to the 373 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,900 front and receive this award honestly isn't really too 374 00:17:56,900 --> 00:17:59,200 bothered about getting it and I looked around. 375 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,300 I was scared less. He couldn't have cared less and 376 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:03,800 I was sat in front of Dylan because it's just that classic 377 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,500 setup of teachers down us. Sides. 378 00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:09,200 And I was sat in front of Dylan, sort of smirking thinking, this 379 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,200 is quite embarrassing because we've just had some like really 380 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,300 heartfelt story about the last one and they will fuck your 381 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,500 haste in a right mess. You know that was like the 382 00:18:16,500 --> 00:18:19,100 comment I turn around and Dylan's crying. 383 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:22,200 Didn't genuinely genuinely has to talk about this. 384 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,100 Child has to read off like the thing and he starts crying like 385 00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:28,200 it's nothing even that meaningful. 386 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:31,000 It's just in tears. I'm just looking across the room 387 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,100 to the other teachers thinking are we all singing didn't crying 388 00:18:34,100 --> 00:18:37,300 about it? Can you explain yourself to look 389 00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:43,800 at that stupid? Because he was really lovely 390 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:48,300 hate you crying. The reaction was so unnecessary. 391 00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:51,900 Oh, I remember it. Because what's supposed to 392 00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:53,300 happen is it's only one per year group. 393 00:18:53,300 --> 00:18:55,500 So like it's, you know, it wasn't even like I had to pick 394 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:57,800 someone in my class, and I couldn't think for some reason, 395 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,800 the whole year group decided, it's a boy, but every now and 396 00:19:00,808 --> 00:19:03,200 then, it's just nice to give it someone just for constantly 397 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,900 being lovely constantly doing the right thing. 398 00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:06,700 I've got it under the radar, right? 399 00:19:06,700 --> 00:19:09,000 Because it can happen sometimes and it doesn't necessarily have 400 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,900 to be something, overwhelmingly, bad has happened to deserve this 401 00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:14,100 award, it kind of what it turned into, which was lovely because 402 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:17,200 children, overcome Lots. But I just wanted to give it to 403 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,700 him and when I had to explain why I just remembered how 404 00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:21,700 brilliant he was. Okay. 405 00:19:21,700 --> 00:19:24,200 And did I choke up? Yes, you are. 406 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,800 Which I just remember, you just be like, he's just such a nice 407 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,500 boy. Is this really just started? 408 00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:35,400 Like, it could have been a pupil of the week, just a standard A 409 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,200 week just tried so hard this time and he couldn't have cared 410 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,800 less. I reckon, you know, when 411 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,200 children get certificates and you put the effort in to write 412 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,000 something and then when it gets to like Christmas or Easter or 413 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,100 something, and you do a bit betray clear and it's just in 414 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:51,700 their training, they did, they would take it home. 415 00:19:51,700 --> 00:19:54,700 They don't just don't care. This one wasn't even a 416 00:19:54,708 --> 00:19:56,400 certificate. It was a trophy. 417 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,800 It was like a mini trophy. It was like a clear glass 418 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,100 see-through, really, like premium thing. 419 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:02,400 Yeah. Just in the bottom of a bag. 420 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,700 Haven't emptied in a couple of terms. 421 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,900 Well, listen, Dylan. I love these stories. 422 00:20:05,900 --> 00:20:08,700 I know we've got loads more stories for the future but we've 423 00:20:08,700 --> 00:20:12,300 also really, really like to hear some stories from people at 424 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:14,800 home. Can you think of your funniest 425 00:20:14,900 --> 00:20:18,200 or most favorable teaching memory and Dylan? 426 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,600 If we got a way for them to send it in? 427 00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:23,800 Yeah actually this week I have set up an email that you can 428 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,500 email us your stories at and we're going to feature our 429 00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:29,200 favorite ones every single week. So do let us know. 430 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,800 The email is this teach sleep. Repeat POD at gmail.com. 431 00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:37,100 Sorry what? That's the longest email I've 432 00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:39,300 ever heard. Is that he isn't real heat 433 00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:41,500 sleep. Repeat POD at gmail.com. 434 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:42,600 You're being serious. I'm sorry. 435 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:45,000 I genuinely thought you were holding such a long pot. 436 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,300 That's the just right in. At our spell it for you. 437 00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:55,900 T, EA CH SL e e p r, EP a--. T-- P OD at gmail.com. 438 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Sorry, I'm gonna, you know, Gmail has been used a lot when 439 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,100 you really can't get shot Gmail's anymore. 440 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,100 Well, sorry, mr. Can't even say my own name at 441 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:08,100 the start of a podcast. Maybe next time you can set up 442 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:09,900 the email fair enough. Fair enough. 443 00:21:09,900 --> 00:21:11,100 Well did I would you like to repeat that? 444 00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:12,900 Because I was taking the mick. Yes, I would actually. 445 00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:15,000 So you've got any funny stories. You wanted to feature them on 446 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,000 the podcast. Read them out. 447 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,100 You can stay Anonymous if you like, it is teach sleep. 448 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:22,200 Repeat to POD at gmail.com, would you like me to spell 449 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,200 again? No, no, that's fine. 450 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,700 I won't let us know guys, to give us an email. 451 00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:28,700 Give us some of your funny stories. 452 00:21:30,900 --> 00:21:33,600 Early in the podcast Hayden we mentioned the relationships you 453 00:21:33,608 --> 00:21:35,700 build with the children because like we said that's our favorite 454 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:38,000 part of the job. It's helping the children, make 455 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,200 progress, it's helping to develop as people. 456 00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:42,300 It's helping them overcome obstacles and barriers. 457 00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:45,800 That's why we're into teaching. And one of the biggest things 458 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,300 that I found helps to do that to get the most out of a child in a 459 00:21:49,308 --> 00:21:51,300 classroom. Firstly obviously is that they 460 00:21:51,300 --> 00:21:53,500 feel safe and that's the most important thing ever. 461 00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:57,500 But secondly, the closer relationship that I have my 462 00:21:57,500 --> 00:22:00,400 class the better in terms of the outcome. 463 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,100 But I just want you to tell me your thoughts Hayden on. 464 00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:05,500 Where is that line? Because at the end of the day, 465 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,800 we're their teacher, we're not there pal. 466 00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:10,900 We're not there. Mate, what do you think about 467 00:22:10,900 --> 00:22:12,900 where that line is? And how can we get the most out 468 00:22:12,900 --> 00:22:15,200 of the children while still maintaining really strict 469 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,600 professional demeanor? I think that point you made 470 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,300 about like, you know, we're not their friends but we can kind of 471 00:22:21,300 --> 00:22:23,600 be friendly with them and develop that relationship is 472 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,000 really important and I actually learned that lesson in my nqt, 473 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,100 you might the teacher. I was, I was with at the time. 474 00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:33,100 So I think he highlighted that That I was really Pally with the 475 00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:35,400 kids because you are you just a bit insecure when you start? 476 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,100 I think a lot of people are and I want the kids to like me, like 477 00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:40,200 I need them to like me, then then I can do my job properly 478 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:43,300 and he kind of took me to the side and did just say, listen, 479 00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:46,800 you can't be their friend, but you can be nice and you can be 480 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,900 friendly to them so that they respect you and that really 481 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:50,400 stuck with me. And I have tried to kind of 482 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,600 build that in to my career because like, you I think it's 483 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,700 super important that you develop real relationships with the 484 00:22:56,700 --> 00:22:59,200 children, not fake ones, not made-up ones, you're forcing 485 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,900 them to respect you, but Relationships with them for me. 486 00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:05,200 That's a really, really nice. Say I've never heard it like 487 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,300 that actually, before you said that you're not their friend but 488 00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:12,600 you could be friendly. I really like that distinction 489 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,600 between the two because it hits the nail on the head. 490 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:20,000 For me, I do not want any child in the class to come in and be 491 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,700 bored. I don't want any child in the 492 00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:25,100 class to come in and feel like they don't get on with their 493 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:28,000 teacher. You need to have that really 494 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,700 strong bond of your class, and the stronger that Bond. 495 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,500 Is the better. The work will be because you 496 00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:37,100 have more respect from them. I don't think as a teacher from 497 00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:39,200 when I was at school, maybe I'm wrong. 498 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,400 But my experience at school was that it felt like teachers kind 499 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,500 of just demanded respect from the start and if you didn't give 500 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:46,200 them that respect from the start, that was it. 501 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,200 There was no attempt at trying to make that Bond. 502 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,900 It was just you listen you right, you do this. 503 00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:53,000 If you don't, if you struggle if you're not bothering to do 504 00:23:53,008 --> 00:23:55,500 anything, that's your fault. And I think from my point of 505 00:23:55,508 --> 00:23:57,900 view, as a teacher, the onus is on us, right? 506 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,700 The onus is always a nice, it's on us to develop that. 507 00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:02,600 Under the children. It's an asked to find something 508 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,000 in common with them so that they have some kind of middle ground 509 00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:08,100 and that's how you're going to get the best out of them is to 510 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:11,100 actually Foster that relationship while still being 511 00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:13,300 that teacher figure, not their friend. 512 00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:15,600 And I find that those classes because every class is 513 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,000 different. But those classes where you do 514 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,300 really managed to develop those personal individual 515 00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:23,400 relationships with the children in the class, I just find that 516 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:27,300 behavior problems are way less. I just don't have as many 517 00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:29,500 behavior problems. Obviously you still get some but 518 00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:32,600 I just the Intend to listen to you a bit more because they 519 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,000 actually like you, they actually respect your opinion and what 520 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,100 you think of them. So they can see you're genuinely 521 00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:40,900 annoyed and their behavior, those children that you develop 522 00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:42,700 those relationships, where they'll care about it. 523 00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:45,000 They don't they don't want to upset you because they actually 524 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,200 like you and that's reciprocated, isn't it? 525 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,700 Because like you said, they care about you. 526 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:50,700 They don't want to annoy you. They want to please you, the 527 00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:54,200 want to give you their hard work, you'll want to do the best 528 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,800 for you and that's because they feel like you're doing the best 529 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,000 for them. You're listening to them, you're 530 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,000 taking their problem, seriously. Not just dismissing it, as 531 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:06,200 children will be quiet and work there people, you know, and and 532 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,200 I really, really, really value that and I think that line is 533 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,700 somewhere in the middle, obviously, but I really like, 534 00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:15,000 I'm going to say again, you can be friendly with them, but 535 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,400 you're not their friend, you're their teacher. 536 00:25:17,900 --> 00:25:19,200 I think I, you probably do this as well. 537 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,000 It is a bit of a teacher tactic, really, but it's something. 538 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,100 I do probably every year with multiple children and you can 539 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:29,400 back me up here or not. But when, when I have psych, 540 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,800 some sort of behavioral issue Ooh, someone's may be kicking 541 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,100 off in class. You're upset about something, 542 00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:36,800 they're annoyed about something. I tend to take them out of the 543 00:25:36,808 --> 00:25:40,400 classroom and have a one-to-one and my kind of aim is to almost 544 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,600 shocked them really with how much I actually care. 545 00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:45,400 And I'm not just going to shout at them and I'll sit them down 546 00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:47,500 and I will tell them like just really to their face. 547 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:49,900 Just be like, I really care about you and I think you're 548 00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:52,000 really cool kid. I've got a lot of time for you 549 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,300 and if you want to talk you can talk about any point. 550 00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:55,700 You want come chat with me at lunch time, come and chat with 551 00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:57,000 me and I'll be there to talk to you. 552 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,100 But what you're doing in class right now is really 553 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:00,600 disrespectful and it's hurting my feelings. 554 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:03,600 And I do find that with not of everyone because we're all 555 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,500 different, but 99% of children, I think it catches them off 556 00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:09,700 guard and they're like, oh my teacher is actually just a human 557 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,400 and it's nice to hear. I care about you from from 558 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,800 someone, when they're being genuine, and I don't know. 559 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,700 But for me is solved a lot of problems over the years. 560 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,800 And I've ended up, developing really nice relationships with 561 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,600 those kids who had a bit of a reputation of maybe being 562 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,000 naughty or misbehaved in class. It's almost like you've laid the 563 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,600 foundations as well for prevention, rather than trying 564 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,200 to patch it up later by Eating in the ground work, early and 565 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,200 building those relationships. Not as many behavior problems 566 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,900 might arise. Again, we're not saying for a 567 00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:38,900 moment that if you have a paper problems in your class, it's 568 00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:41,000 your fault because you didn't build a relationship with them. 569 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,600 It's not as simple as that, but you're preventing it as much as 570 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,600 possible. And I think that approach, it 571 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,800 works for me anyway, and it sounds like it works for you. 572 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,600 Everyone's got a different style, I was just wondering 573 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:53,600 because again, we've known each other for ages teaching, but 574 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,700 we're not actually watched each other teach loads and loads and 575 00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:58,300 loads. How often would you say that you 576 00:26:58,300 --> 00:27:00,200 shout in your classroom? Okay. 577 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,900 They are we talking? Like genuine, like I'm shouting 578 00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:05,800 because I'm like actually genuinely angry and I think and 579 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,800 I feel like I just have to raise my voice in pure salt anger or 580 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,000 just shouting cause they're being quite noisy to me. 581 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,100 It's a choice. It's of a teaching style, right? 582 00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:15,800 Because there's two types of shouting that you just said, 583 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,400 it's when you're actually angry and you shout, because you're 584 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,700 angry, right? And it's not premeditated, And 585 00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:24,800 this then shouting because you feel like it's the right thing 586 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,600 to do to get the children to stop doing something. 587 00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:31,300 And I suppose the reason I'm asking is because I've been told 588 00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:34,300 and it wasn't necessarily a choice I made from the start but 589 00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:36,800 it is something I don't like I don't like shouting. 590 00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:42,100 I really don't like shouting and I can't look past the idea of a 591 00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:45,600 grown man who's nearly 30 bellowing at an eight-year-old 592 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,200 child. Like I just think there must be 593 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,600 other ways to solve things the doing that. 594 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,700 But there is one exception for me. 595 00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:54,000 Me, which I want to say just yet, I'm wondering what you 596 00:27:54,008 --> 00:27:55,600 think. Yeah, I think I probably agree 597 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,900 with you in terms of like, it's kind of it almost for me. 598 00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:00,600 It gives the feel of being out of control, like, if you 599 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,200 genuinely, if you're shouting, as you are just emotional in 600 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,000 that moment and it's the only thing you can think of doing. 601 00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:08,500 I don't think it's, I don't think it's the best tactic it 602 00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:10,500 has its place though. Like, I have definitely been in 603 00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:13,800 situations where I honestly, that's the only thing I could 604 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,400 have done in that particular situation for the, for a child, 605 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,900 or a group of children to listen to me and take me seriously. 606 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,100 But most of the time it's for Is not really real or kind of use 607 00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:26,800 it as a tactic. I raised you by voice now, but 608 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,500 not very often. And I've even spoken to the 609 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:30,400 children about this and told them the difference between 610 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,400 shouting and raising my voice because I will raise my voice to 611 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,400 talk over and to cut through and I say to them, look I'm not 612 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,700 shouting now, but I wouldn't talk to someone with this level 613 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:40,200 of voice in a general conversation. 614 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,700 So there's a difference there and there are levels to shouting 615 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:45,800 and I will say the few times I do shout, it tends to be like a 616 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,600 health and safety thing. I had a class once we went 617 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,400 swimming a few times many years ago and it was of their first 618 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,300 few times in the pool. And we got back in the coach 619 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:57,700 said to me, that they were messing around in the pool and 620 00:28:57,700 --> 00:28:59,300 actually, it was becoming unsafe. 621 00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:02,600 And at that point, I thought, okay, how can I have an effect 622 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,500 here? And because I didn't shout to my 623 00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:08,500 class at all. It held power, that's that, that 624 00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:10,900 raising of the voice. The children knew I was being 625 00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:13,300 serious and I didn't just shout for the sake of shouting. 626 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,000 It was premeditated. I knew I was going to raise my 627 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,600 voice. I knew I was going to put on 628 00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:21,200 this Persona of, this is completely unacceptable and it 629 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,700 cuts through Because it's one of the probably in that whole year, 630 00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:27,900 I think that was the only time I raised my voice to that level 631 00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,200 and they took it seriously. How often do you think you get 632 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,900 genuinely angry at school like real anger as time has gone on 633 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,200 almost never, because I think you've seen it all by, then 634 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,200 maybe a few years ago, something happens and it really bothers 635 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,800 your blood. Like how could you get into that 636 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,100 fight? I've put so much time into 637 00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,600 trying to help you and you've got onto the playground and you 638 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,900 push someone over. Yeah. 639 00:29:49,900 --> 00:29:52,400 And that would maybe used to make me really We angry apply. 640 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,900 Why have you done that? I've put so much of my energy 641 00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:57,300 and I've just spoken to you. I didn't understand it, but I 642 00:29:57,308 --> 00:30:01,100 think the more experienced that we've become, you've always seen 643 00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:04,000 everything now and in terms of pure anger at the children, my 644 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,700 first thought is always, yeah, but there's probably an 645 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:09,200 explanation XYZ. Yeah. 646 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,100 Or a better way of dealing with this situation right now, that 647 00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:17,300 doesn't involve me being angry It can only be beneficial to 648 00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:19,200 spend time, really building those relationships of your 649 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,900 class, but just not going over that line. 650 00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:24,100 I think the more experience you get, you realize where that line 651 00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:25,900 has to be a new experiment with it. 652 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,100 You might feel like, sometimes you become to paly and you're 653 00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:30,400 not getting as much out of them. So you ran it back in. 654 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,000 It's a constant move. And you know what class to class 655 00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:34,500 that line is going to be different, right. 656 00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:37,500 I know that you said something to me before and I definitely do 657 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:41,000 this as well and you said it. And you were saying that 658 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,500 sometimes you will be a little bit to paly, you'll recognize it 659 00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:46,900 in the moment that on Actually, I've been a little bit too 660 00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:49,800 friendly with the class right now, I've maybe done a few too 661 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,400 many jokes and they're getting a little bit, you know, out of 662 00:30:52,408 --> 00:30:54,700 their seats, joining in being a bit shouted, as well, and then 663 00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:56,400 you've sort of regretted it. Is that right? 664 00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:58,600 Yeah. I think, what I mean is you have 665 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,400 a joke, you have a laugh, you're having fun and then kind of you 666 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,200 look at the clock and you're like, oh gosh, we've got to get 667 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,700 this writing done in the next 20 minutes and you might think, 668 00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:10,000 okay, whoa, okay, class. And it's easy for me as a grown 669 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,600 adult with my emotions under control because I've gone 670 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,400 through the face of growing up, I can say, okay, let's stop that 671 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,400 there. Then we need to focus now and 672 00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:18,900 children. Can't just do that something. 673 00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:21,200 Then they're not emotionally mature enough. 674 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,100 Just to say, oh yeah, Mr. Price I said we're going to stop. 675 00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:26,400 So I'm going to start writing now and that's kind of unfair in 676 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,000 the children. And that's my self-reflection 677 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,200 basically, is you need to be aware of that. 678 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,900 And because if you need to get something out of the children, 679 00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:35,100 they need to produce something need to be in the mindset. 680 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,700 You can't just flip on and off. You have to really plan out as 681 00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:39,900 well. I mean, I think they'd actually 682 00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:42,700 lose respect for you if you then got angry at them because they'd 683 00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:45,300 be like, well, hang on me like 20 seconds ago, we were all 684 00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:46,900 having a Off I think absolutely right. 685 00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:49,900 And you saying that maybe really think about my own practice and 686 00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:52,000 how I've definitely done that in times in my career I've got 687 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,200 cross at them because they can't immediately snap out of a silly 688 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,500 mode that I got them in by messing around in the first 689 00:31:56,500 --> 00:31:58,500 place. But I think the overall kind of 690 00:31:58,508 --> 00:32:03,300 point for me is just that if you spend that time, developing the 691 00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:06,800 relationships with the children on an individual level, you can 692 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,900 afford to have a little bit more fun and be friendly with them in 693 00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:13,700 the class but maintain that level of respect and still get 694 00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:16,500 the best out of them, right? That's All, we've got time for 695 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:18,100 this week. We are going to. 696 00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:21,700 Okay, no, we haven't talked with the glue sticks in the cupboard. 697 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,300 Are you did mention you were going to do it? 698 00:32:24,308 --> 00:32:25,800 I did promise. We did probably listen. 699 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,300 It doesn't matter. We'll do it next time right? 700 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,400 Next time. Next time we'll talk like this 701 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,200 six next time. So guys, we'll see you, then for 702 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,200 another episode next week. Thanks for listening. 703 00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:34,100 Catch you next time.