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Usually we start the podcast off
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skit that we put together. 
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reading, what was just 
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really deserves to be spoke 
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And it was the story of Ruth 
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She was a head teacher, who 
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tragically. 
She took her own life and more, 

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and more light has been shed on 
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her school had been inspected by
ofsted, and she's been passed 

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down the Judgment. 
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inadequate. 
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used by enough said rating and 
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receiving that judgment to. 
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published this tragic event 
happened and I think what we 

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need to do is just give her the 
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She deserves and really shed a 
light on what is a profession 

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that is steeped in these 
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is absolutely Dreadful news and 
I think it really has put ofsted

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in the spotlight right now and 
it's brought something really 

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important in teaching to the 
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Everyone's mind, which is 
well-being. 

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It's something we've talked 
about a little bit before in a 

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previous episode because the end
of the day working in schools 

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can be incredibly incredibly 
stressful. 

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So if you are having a hard time
at school, visit education 

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support dot org.uk for some tips
and support or they've even got 

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a helpline that you can use as 
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Hello everyone. 
Welcome back to another episode 

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of teach steep. 
Repeat, my name is Dylan and my 

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name is Hayden. 
Thank you so much for tuning in 

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to episode 8. 
I can't believe we're this far 

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in already. 
We're absolutely loving it and I

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must say, Dylan, I'm feeling 
really good. 

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Oh yeah. 
Because we are booming. 

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We have we are getting so many 
new listeners and our podcast. 

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We've got people from all over 
the country. 

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People are house like your 
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Like, you know, everyone's 
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up you're saying well, You know,
what's really interesting is we 

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do have the numbers. 
We do have an app, so it tells 

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us all the statistics and stuff 
and jokes aside is really 

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exciting for us because we 
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and we're getting close to 100 
unique listeners every week 

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already, which is just crazy. 
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I know, we live in the world of 
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videos and stuff, but can you 
just imagine 100 people walking 

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around just to listen to us? 
Chat rubbish? 

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Like honestly, I can't believe 
it is so exciting. 

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That's 100 customers, Dylan, 
100,000 Running joke there, if 

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you don't get it, go back and 
listen, just think of all the 

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merchandise, we can sell them. 
I can think of tops of underst 

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written across it and inflatable
dolphin that we just sell. 

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But it's been sold half deflated
already, of course because yeah,

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you know. 
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And if this is the first podcast
listening to, I completely 

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understand how you have no idea 
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So do go back and watch them. 
But Hayden, great, great note to

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start. 
I'll absolutely love that 

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because we are really excited. 
I'm going to keep doing it. 

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We're going to keep doing this 
and you guys are the Ones who 

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drive this forward. 
You're doing this for and your 

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stories and you writing in to 
us. 

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You can find us on Instagram, 
teach seat, repeat podcast. 

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You can find those on our Gmail.
By sending any storage, you have

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teach sleep, repeat POD at 
gmail.com, get in touch, guys. 

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Even if it's just to say hello, 
we want to chat to you. 

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We want to know you are audience
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rush when you share one of our 
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So if you can share one of my 
recent Instagram, if you can 

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spread the word of the podcast 
to your friends, that would 

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Absolutely amazing for us and 
get Hayden. 

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Guess what? 
The last thing I'm going to ask 

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for is because I'm a bit 
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I'll go on, go on a rating on 
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going up and up and up. 
We've got a bunch of followers, 

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We've got so, I know you're out 
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Just click that five-star, it 
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appreciate it. 
Listen right, we want that 

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organic growth. 
So every single week we're going

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to tell you, to go and share our
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right? 
It's all about the organic 

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growth. 
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You're gonna completely organic 
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heart? 
And from the goodness of me 

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constantly telling you what to 
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So come on in Hayden. 
I suppose this is the time where

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you have to tell me all about 
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Come on laughing. 
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There's a bit of a throwback to 
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watch any of our reals some of 
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You can see that I'm wearing 
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beans. 
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neck warm. 
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Whiplash from playing squash 
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It got Wes you and actually 
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So you didn't see this, you 
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I just took myself off to minor 
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really, really hurting you 
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It hurts so much like to the 
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people were like, maybe you 
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out. 
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just me. 
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All right, I'm just gonna put it
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would have gone, but I did go. 
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Cause you know, people convinced
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enough, red. 
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got Scene and then they kind of 
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Your horrific neck injury or, 
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off with Justin. 
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one of those two options. 
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because he's poor, but it's just
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All right. 
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And it just happens to be that I
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And yes they did laugh it off 
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painkillers. 
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could have just gone to the shop
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telling you. 
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immense stress, Hayden. 
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horrific working conditions and 
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to the Limit because people go 
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of a sore neck. 
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I did actually feel bad. 
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guy, I am, that person when I 
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you actually after about three 
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hey, I've seen this whole room 
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single person that's in this 
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when I got here and you said to 
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it's quite a low priority. 
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angry at you, and I was like, oh
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shouldn't be here. 
There's people walking in with a

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thumb half all Ling off and 
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pipe my necks a bit. 
So let me in please. 

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I think my legs broken, 
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on my phone looking down. 
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My necks broken. 
I was stupid. 

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Thank you for your service and I
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Actually I'm going to tell you 
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Again a bit of a throwback here.
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Made me laugh. 
A new and a new member joined my

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master class this week. 
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But yeah and a new be a newbie, 
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you know what, I'm going to ask 
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the lesson. 
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Can we play by that? 
Come with Bebo, darts or can we?

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Can? 
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Which they're doing and I see 
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confused. 
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blow dryer? 
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she says she assumes, you know, 
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here, that this is a normal type
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She says is it that one where 
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in the person that gets it wrong
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And I was like, no, no no, no 
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Proceeded to explain her. 
This insane game. 

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We play in math. 
You're there. 

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Just shaking your head. 
No, no, I put in your jacket on 

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explore Jackson and I darling 
handing her, the elephant is put

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on ahead. 
No, no, this is don't know what 

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the other kids already put on 
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Is ready to play. 
You've got the zebra, the 

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cheater the Jag. 
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Oh sorry. 
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It's enjoyable explaining the 
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So yeah that's that's the 
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What about you? 
Anything interesting, yeah. 

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I mean, the that one thing 
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every single teacher can relate 
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something, isn't there about 
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food or something? 
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job is just absolutely making 
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So tired, you finish the day and
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went down to your five, went 
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It was for an actual work reason
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on the side. 
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them as well. 
I've just got this me just 

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slowly agent. 
Are you AFI not bad? 

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Fake. 
Your fingers just like, you 

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know? 
Like like the hand of Wednesday.

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The handles like a vanilla. 
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Oh yeah, my day was fine. 
You know, I'm the worst with 

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small talk. 
My day was good. 

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Yeah. 
Lovely. 

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Oh screams is it over? 
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offer you can I have 100. 
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Thank you brilliant. 
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I'll take one of those lovely. 
I've been good. 

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Go on then the classic. 
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chatting even more. 
As you know, chatting away 

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genuinely got into a 
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But ate like three or four in 
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know, if you're gonna have a 
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school, where time is. 
So, so valuable, you want a few 

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biscuits as well. 
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But anyway, the best part came 
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biscuits away, funnily enough, 
you know, obviously, normally 

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the worst time when they put the
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Nope, because they open this 
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the best thing. 
So Chris chocolate more 

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biscuits. 
And even at the back, you know, 

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I'm like my drink Hayden. 
I like to constantly be guzzling

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on water gardening on So I'm 
always thirsty the back of the 

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cupboard. 
I honestly I kid you not a two 

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and a half liter bottle of 
lemonade. 

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It's like, okay, cool went to 
the kitchen, came back with an 

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empty glass straight away. 
I just, I would honestly say 

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that they're eating lemonade 
scoffing, some foxes biscuits, 

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they've gone, they've gone back 
into their classroom tomorrow, I

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stood on my own in the shed 
area, literally just having my 

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own little snack party. 
So that was a good hard life but

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I do know I love how much like 
you're the only person I know 

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actually, I'm sure there are 
others. 

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I'm sure I'm the weirdo here. 
The, you love drink so much. 

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Like a good drink to you. 
Is like almost equal. 

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I feel like it's like a good 
snack close to me. 

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There's just, there's no 
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I don't care. 
I'll just drink water all day 

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but a chocolate treat or yeah. 
But you're weird. 

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You drink so much liquid in the 
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I don't understand how this this
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number one apparently it's a 
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So I should probably go to the 
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minor injuries and my neck 
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drink lots of water during the 
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I'm not drinking Coke and one of

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the children, anything like 
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Where did most people fall? 

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Do they do they like a good 
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Does it make them excited when 
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fridge? 
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alcoholic like just just a nice 
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That's not water or do they just
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They'll just consume whatever's 
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You know, we really tackle the 
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So if you want to let us know, 
what's your favorite drink 

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today? 
Oh my God. 

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Can I just have just remembered 
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week? 
Is it your expense? 

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Obviously in it's about you 
drinking. 

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So we went out for lunch last 
week, listeners. 

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We went out for lunch. 
All right. 

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Dillon myself and our partners 
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Happened related to Dylan's 
strange liquid that you drink so

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much stuff. 
It's ridiculous. 

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Right? 
Can I really very quickly Just 

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I've got no idea where this is 
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will do. 
You'll hear the story on your 

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Billet? 
Oh God. 

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Okay, you've exposed me. 
All right, so we finished. 

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Our lunch is the context. 
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We finished our last a drink, 
there we go. 

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Okay. 
Hey, we'd already had a drink 

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with our lunch. 
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when you get like a full-size 
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the whole meal, right? 
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having wine or beer and stuff 
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it's just like soft drinks. 
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and we didn't get pudding, but 
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I'm gonna get a hot chocolate. 
I'll sink and fair enough. 

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That's like your pudding is 
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you know, you've just drunk a 
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when he gave his order, it was 

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like, well, actually, and he 
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embarrassed, that the fact that 
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two drinks, and then then a lady
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down the hot chocolate. 
If I didn't and then look Todd. 

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Mostly naturally around the 
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Who's having that the Coke or 
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And we all quick to jump on. 
So, yeah. 

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Oh, that's also his as well. 
Shit. 

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See was so embarrassed, but you 
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get embarrassed easily, but the 
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bringing a drinks order over and
it's all for me, exclusive you 

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all finish. 
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your plate. 
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watch me drink hot chocolate 
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But yeah, let's say what it was.
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sugar so it works. 
I suppose you would want more of

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you maximum flavor. 
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the stash in year 5. 
This is where it leads into a 

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really big moment for a podcast 
Hayden. 

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This is a historic moment and 
you know why? 

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No, we're about to our first 
ever shout out. 

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Okay, so this week, yeah, this 
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about what they do, whilst they 
listen to the podcast. 

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You got loads of Answers, you 
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doing the shopping. 
Those loads different people 

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tennis on our Instagram because 
you know, come and join us. 

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By the way, can find her 
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our rails. 
By the way, share our rails, 

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chair them, 50% of this podcast 
is Miko, can you please give us 

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things? 
Organic growth. 

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Anyway, we got into one where we
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We have an avid listener her 
name's Sandy, hey, Sandy, and 

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she listens often while stirring
her ironing. 

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So, I know, you might be very 
Right now and a bit shocked that

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you've got a nice shout out for 
my podcast, just be careful. 

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Don't burn that shirt, pick it 
up and we just want to say thank

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you for this. 
Nice, appreciate you and your 

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time classics. 
That was she like old sanity 

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always ironing. 
Always, I'm always on. 

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Is this classic? 
That's literally classic sounds 

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but yeah, thank you. 
And if you ever want anyone have

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a shout-out on this podcast, 
that goes to about 100 people, 

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which were very proud of having 
one's a shout. 

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Please, just let us know. 
And we'll be On it. 

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One other thing, Hayden this 
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I just keep my eye on it and I 
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sometimes. 
I don't want to just drag 

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everyone down and with us. 
Yeah, baby, I don't wanna drag 

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everyone down with me whilst I 
get political stuff, but I just 

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wanted to mention obviously in 
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Boris Johnson, if you've not 
watched this Boris Johnson, he's

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gone in front of a committee and
they're basically trying to find

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out if he lied to Parliament. 
And it's a really big deal of 

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you like a parliament. 
Yeah, I'm not sure we need a 

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little microphone committee to 
find that one out. 

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But So he's actually sat in 
front of this committee, right? 

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It's a bunch of politicians from
his party from the conservative 

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party, Labour SMP, and they're 
questioning him on whether he 

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lied. 
Because he said, in Houses of 

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Parliament that no rules were 
broken and guidance was followed

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at all times. 
Obviously, the sucre report came

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out and the Met police had their
investigation and found them 

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guilty, and he got a fixed 
penalty charge. 

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Notice I just beg you guys just 
to go and watch it because it is

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the ultimate example in the 
class. 

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Asik politician, barefaced 
lying. 

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And, and people just kind of be 
like, okay, cool, because the 

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best part of it was they 
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him on a screen, right? 
So he stood there, he sat there,

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sorry, watching himself, say the
guidance and the rules were 

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followed at all times on this 
big TV, right in this committee 

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and then immediately, they show 
a picture of him. 

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Draw the pictures of him holding
Glass glasses up with like real 

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claims improve and to have 
broken the rules. 

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Yeah yeah where he got a penalty
charge notice and he had people 

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in the room. 
Not so Distancing whatsoever, 

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right? 
Yeah. 

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And he he literally he staring 
at the picture of this of these 

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people stood next to each other 
with a table, full of wine and 

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beer, right? 
They say to him. 

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So basically how do you explain 
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Then if you weren't socially and
he's genuine answer. 

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He says, he just shows. 
We were following the guidelines

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that that was his. 
We are following the guidelines.

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It a picture. 
Oh, I hope I'm not doing it. 

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And they said, well, here are 
the guidelines and they read the

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guidelines to him. 
Stay to M plus apart Old Times 

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where you can. 
If you can't one meter plus with

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necessary, you know, Provisions 
in place where that's a mask or 

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maybe. 
Like, if you're sat at a desk, 

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maybe those plastic, you know, 
dividers down the side so that 

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you're not left breathing on 
people and ask yourself. 

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Does everyone at this meeting or
this workplace? 

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Have to be here. 
Could they be at home? 

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Or could this meeting or thing 
that's going on for your 

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business. 
Not happen at all and you still 

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get on with your work, right? 
And it's so clear that this is 

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just a get together a social, 
they're having a drink. 

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They're drinking wine, not 
working. 

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They having a drink and he just 
he just goes. 

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Yes there was there was we work,
we had all the provisions in 

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place obviously it's a small 
place, we have to be crammed 

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together, but we had all the 
provisions in, place, like 

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plastic dividers and all this. 
Not, and then the guy that she 

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says, there's no plastic 
dividers are, there's none in 

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this picture. 
There's none in this. 

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That you're staring at and he 
just goes, yes. 

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Well you know we did this, we 
did that, we did everything 

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else, he just lies, just denying
the picture completely and it 

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comes down to these two things 
for Boris Johnson, right? 

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One of two things have happened.
He either knew the rules and he 

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lied. 
Yeah. 

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Or he doesn't know his own 
rules, and he genuinely thought 

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he wasn't breaking eyes, and 
he's the most incompetent prime 

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minister. 
That's everything. 

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I suppose. 
It's a double negative right 

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beside Boris. 
Yeah. 

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Which one you're going to Go for
it because it's just mad and 

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I'll just like to write every 
now and then I just find it. 

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So like I was thinking about how
that is quite relatable to 

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teaching, right but end and 
that, that sort of behavior of 

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just bare face lying because 
it's just generally something 

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you only do when you're sort of 
like, below the age of 10 

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honestly. 
It just is is like your kids 

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learn to lie and then they tend 
to learn when you're a bit older

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but that doesn't really work. 
Like people just see through it 

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and then your reputation goes 
down here and actually people 

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don't like you as much, like 
that's just how it works and 

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it's just mentors me to Yeah, 
that's why that's politicians 

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tactics. 
Is it to do what that to do all 

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the children do my class when 
they've been lately done? 

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Something you've caught them 
red-handed and they go. 

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No, I didn't like what you did 
because I literally saw you 3 

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seconds ago. 
Do it. 

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So turn don't say you didn't 
because that's just gonna make 

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me annoyed and he, they just get
way of it, though. 

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But they always do, and I think 
they've learned that it's like, 

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the whole strategy of like, it 
is blatantly a strategy. 

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I don't need anyone to tell me. 
This is a thing to have worked 

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this out, was like the most 
basic level of inference ever 

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that, that if politicians will, 
just they never say sorry. 

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They've clearly worked out that 
if you You never ever, ever, 

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ever admit to doing something 
wrong that. 

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There is a net gain to that. 
Of course, a lot of people see 

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right through it, but clearly 
more than fifty percent, don't, 

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obviously wouldn't do it. 
And it's just I hate all these 

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stupid tactics because it's 
like, it's just Child's Play and

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it but it works on a mass scale.
Apparently this kind of happened

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in the committee, very briefly. 
Last thing I will say about it 

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was one of the people 
interviewing him and asking him 

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questions basically said there's
quite a few of your supporters 

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who have been working really 
hard in the last few weeks to 

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completely discredit this 
committee. 

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Basically saying A lefty coup to
try and kick Boris out basically

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so that if they do find that he 
was actually in the wrong. 

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What could happen is you could 
be kicked out of the comments. 

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He could be like literally not 
allowed to be an MP anymore. 

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It's very serious from his 
career because that's all he 

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cares about. 
So the guy said, this has been 

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happening. 
Can you say right now that you 

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accept that we will, we will be 
fair whatever judgment we come 

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out as basically saying can you 
tell us one that these people 

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are wrong to be doing this to be
to be discrediting this before. 

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It's even Started, but to he 
said, you kind of want The Best 

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of Both Worlds. 
Because these people, your 

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supporters are setting up so 
that if they find you guilty, 

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then the whole committee is, is 
just fast. 

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It's a lefty cool. 
They're just trying to get rid 

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of him, but if the committee 
find him not guilty suddenly, 

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the committee's word is 
acceptable and is like, 

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absolutely fun, completely 
vindicates him and it was just 

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such a good question and all he 
did was just ignore it and he 

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was just like, look, I've said 
why I think that this committee 

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has to be really Marshall and I 
hope they will be really 

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impartial. 
And I look forward to you 

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finding out that that I was in 
fact, not breaking the rules and

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not misleading Parliament. 
And I hope that's the conclusion

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that you come to. 
And it's like cool, but you're 

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going to accept that. 
We might go against what you 

452
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,600
think, and still be fair. 
And he just literally goes. 

453
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,000
I don't quite I don't quite like
that wedding. 

454
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,900
You've put there. 
But what I will say is that I'm 

455
00:20:11,900 --> 00:20:14,100
absolutely sure that once you've
read all the evidence and you 

456
00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:15,900
read read, where do I put 
forward? 

457
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000
You will find me and exonerate 
me of everything. 

458
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,600
So you just just didn't answer 
the question at all. 

459
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,700
Pathetic. 
That's all I can say on that. 

460
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,500
Right, let's dive straight into 
them. 

461
00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:28,900
You seen the title of this 
podcast is what we want to 

462
00:20:28,900 --> 00:20:32,600
really talk about this week. 
And it's all about it, all, 

463
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,000
stemmed, rather from a telegraph
headline that we saw and the 

464
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,700
headline was simply teachers 
negotiate for more, pay for Less

465
00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:44,200
work and it really kind of just 
rather's up than the hater when 

466
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,900
we saw that. 
Because it's the whole idea of 

467
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,500
the lazy teachers to are 
stereotype and how much work the

468
00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:52,900
teachers actually do, and all of
those classic things that we'll 

469
00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:55,300
get into in a second. 
What really annoyed me was, I 

470
00:20:55,300 --> 00:20:57,700
went to click on the article to 
read it because you know, I'm 

471
00:20:57,700 --> 00:20:59,400
not ashamed. 
You know, to say that I will 

472
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,500
read anything from any newspaper
because I'm just interested to 

473
00:21:02,508 --> 00:21:04,500
see what the points of view are.
I might not necessarily agree 

474
00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:06,100
with them but I find it 
interesting. 

475
00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:09,000
Sometimes to look at the counter
argument, even if just to kind 

476
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,300
of show up what I think my 
opinion, but it was behind a pay

477
00:21:12,300 --> 00:21:15,400
wall and I thought, this is 
just, this is classic amount of 

478
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,500
people that will see this, but 
won't want to put the 

479
00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:19,500
subscription to read the Times 
every month. 

480
00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:22,600
But I've seen this headline, and
it just perpetuates those myths,

481
00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:24,300
and it got a bit Raw. 
Add up. 

482
00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:26,400
Didn't it him? 
Yeah big time because it is a 

483
00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:28,300
it's a it's a classic 
stereotype. 

484
00:21:28,300 --> 00:21:29,500
It's been around for as long as 
I remember. 

485
00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:31,300
That's for sure. 
Even I started teaching it was 

486
00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:35,400
this whole idea of cool 13 weeks
holiday called lazy bunch and 

487
00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:37,200
you know also I've always been I
haha. 

488
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,000
Yeah it's funny but deep down 
you know you do the job for a 

489
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,300
few years you like us. 
Not that's not true at all like 

490
00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:43,800
that. 
It doesn't work like this 

491
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,500
whatsoever and I know we've got 
a few examples of when we have 

492
00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:50,200
you know how how different jobs 
and different careers have 

493
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,000
incredibly different timetables 
doesn't make you lazier based on

494
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,800
the amount of You have in a row,
you know. 

495
00:21:55,900 --> 00:21:59,100
Yeah, absolutely. 
And you know, we've had jobs, 

496
00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:01,700
we've got, you know, husbands 
are people, we work with 

497
00:22:01,700 --> 00:22:06,000
Partners who might go away for 
six months in a row and then be 

498
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,400
off for six months in a row. 
That's, that's half, but they go

499
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,900
away, they stay away. 
That's a big commitment away 

500
00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:14,600
from family. 
There's no right or wrong way to

501
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,900
do your job. 
There's no one way in which the 

502
00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:19,500
hours are distributed and 
something about teaching that I 

503
00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:21,500
want to get into today is just 
to explain to everyone. 

504
00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:23,900
This is how much work that we 
actually do more. 

505
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,500
Not, I'm not looking for 
sympathy. 

506
00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:27,300
I'm not looking to say we're 
better than anyone else. 

507
00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:30,100
This is just how it actually is 
broken down because there's a 

508
00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:33,500
fundamental disconnect I find 
between the general Public's 

509
00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:36,800
idea of what a teacher does, 
based on our contract, based on 

510
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,800
our holidays, based on that I 
can imagine. 

511
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,700
If you're a parent that 
annoyance of, I've got keep 

512
00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:42,200
these kids occupied for six 
weeks now. 

513
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,900
Like, it seems like a long 
stretch, doesn't it? 

514
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,500
But with what we actually do put
into the job and you're 

515
00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:49,700
absolutely right Hayden 13 weeks
off a year. 

516
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,600
I mean, we do get 13 weeks off. 
It's correct. 

517
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,800
It's that classic thing of 
you're Wrong. 

518
00:22:54,900 --> 00:22:58,000
But context is so key. 
When was the last time Hayden, 

519
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,600
you did in a 93 gone to work at 
3:09. 

520
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,000
So that's something that happens
is a teacher. 

521
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,200
I mean, it doesn't ever happen, 
does it? 

522
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,800
That's the thing people often 
say. 

523
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,000
Are, you know, you just worked 
nine till 3:30, just getting a 

524
00:23:08,008 --> 00:23:10,700
bit before the kids leave. 
Just after, it's not, it's not 

525
00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:12,700
reality. 
There might be one teacher in 

526
00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:15,500
this country who manages to do 
that plays in the blood 

527
00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:18,200
teachers, all, but there, but 
the chances are that doesn't 

528
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,600
happen anywhere for anyone. 
I don't know any school now that

529
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,400
starts at 9:00 I don't know any 
school that actually starts at 

530
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,900
nine where children come through
and enter the building at 9:00. 

531
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,500
It has creeped back actually 
hasn't it. 

532
00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:31,700
You're right because it 
different used to be a thing 

533
00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:33,000
that nine was kind of the 
Standard Time. 

534
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000
If anything, like 9:10 they've 
caught last night sometimes but 

535
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,900
you're dead, you're right. 
It really has creeped back. 

536
00:23:37,900 --> 00:23:39,600
I find that most of my friends 
now. 

537
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,900
I like all my kids, you know, 
the kids coming. 88, 45 or 8:30 

538
00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:44,700
or whatever. 
Yeah, that's an interesting 

539
00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:46,200
point. 
So, I just want to dive into 

540
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,900
this and give the context for 
people because it's something 

541
00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:50,100
we've mentioned before in the 
podcast. 

542
00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:52,800
And we said jokingly, well, what
a whole podcast was this and we 

543
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,900
actually are putting a whole 
session. 

544
00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:57,400
Section of our podcast Rubber 
and it is directed time. 

545
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,900
So Hayden, could you just 
explain to everyone what they're

546
00:23:59,900 --> 00:24:01,000
at? 
The time is then I'll come in 

547
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,300
with the details, the final 
stuff. 

548
00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:04,600
Yeah, so really, really in a 
nutshell, right? 

549
00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:07,200
We have to have something called
directed time and our job 

550
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,700
because we have a wider 
framework called Teaching 

551
00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:12,000
Standards. 
And there are basically 

552
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,400
essentially lots of roles we 
have to complete as teachers, 

553
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,300
but it's hard to put a time 
frame on everything. 

554
00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,700
So what we've come up, what the 
system has come up with is 

555
00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:22,100
something called directed hours 
or directed time where the 

556
00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:26,300
school is allowed to say, For 
this amount of hours a year 

557
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,300
which is obviously broken down 
into per week. 

558
00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:31,600
Typically we can tell you 
exactly what to do in that time.

559
00:24:31,900 --> 00:24:35,900
But outside of that time you do 
things as and when you need to 

560
00:24:35,900 --> 00:24:37,900
to meet those, those teacher 
standards. 

561
00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:40,700
Yeah. 
So directed time is broken down 

562
00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:48,400
to 1265 hours over the year and 
that is over 39 weeks. 

563
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,400
So that's 195 days. 
So 39 weeks in the year. 

564
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,600
That's why we got our time off 
from the 13 weeks. 

565
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,900
Five of those days are inset 
days where we expected to go and

566
00:24:56,900 --> 00:24:59,600
do training. 
But what's really interesting is

567
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,500
comparing this time. 
So if you look at 1265 hours, if

568
00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:07,500
you compare that to the amount 
of hours, someone does in a 

569
00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:10,300
general full-time job with, 
let's say four weeks holiday, 

570
00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:14,900
they're looking at much closer 
to 1800 hours and how many hours

571
00:25:14,900 --> 00:25:17,600
a week is that on? 
So that's on 38 hours a week. 

572
00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:20,900
Yeah, for 48 weeks that's 
considering you get four weeks 

573
00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:24,300
holiday paid. 
You know you're looking at 24 

574
00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:26,000
hours of work during that year, 
okay? 

575
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,000
So a standard full-time 
contract, some of 37 and a half 

576
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,600
summer 38, it's just roughly 
around there. 

577
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,900
So there's a huge disconnect 
there and you can see where 

578
00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:37,700
these stereotypes come from. 
That is two thirds of the hours 

579
00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:39,500
that teachers have in their 
contract. 

580
00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:41,900
But I want to play a little game
of you Hayden right now because 

581
00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:43,800
you're literally a teacher as we
all know. 

582
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,600
And we did that PP a skit, the 
start of an episode previously 

583
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,200
about all the things teachers 
have to do. 

584
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:55,600
So I want to highlight to 
everyone these Five hours, I 

585
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,700
want you to tell me Hayden, the 
things that you believe are 

586
00:25:58,700 --> 00:26:03,400
included in this directed time 
as our contract States and then 

587
00:26:03,408 --> 00:26:05,800
we'll talk about what's not 
included and how actually that's

588
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,900
going to make up the difference.
So I knew this was coming up and

589
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:11,400
I purposely avoided looking up 
anything to do with director 

590
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,700
time, basically and I thought 
it'd be more fun to just guess. 

591
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:17,500
Obviously, in outside of I Derek
to time we have this kind of 

592
00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:19,500
caveat of you. 
Also have to get lots of these 

593
00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:22,200
other jobs done and it's all 
kind of included in the salary 

594
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,200
that we paid. 
So it's kind of hard to to say 

595
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,300
that we have this, we only pay 
for those directed hours, right?

596
00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:28,600
But it's really strange, isn't 
it? 

597
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,600
Before you start guessing how we
have a contract, which says x 

598
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,200
amount of hours, and then, it 
just kind of completely ignores 

599
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,700
that by saying, but you have to 
get everything else done. 

600
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,800
Yeah, I know. 
Well, when there's no point 

601
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,500
having this number of hours is 
there because that's not the 

602
00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:43,200
job. 
It's almost almost an admission 

603
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,800
of by the way, these jobs you 
can actually can't get done in 

604
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,100
these hours that we're saying a 
direct. 

605
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:48,800
Yeah. 
But we're just going to just 

606
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,600
going to leave this random 
number anyway. 

607
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,300
We could increase it but no. 
So I think because of that with 

608
00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:55,300
that in mind Obviously they're 
going to be jobs that don't fit 

609
00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:55,900
into it. 
Come on. 

610
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,900
SO number one thing, you can get
a full house here. 

611
00:26:57,900 --> 00:26:59,600
Come on, Arkansas. 
I can duplicate number one 

612
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,100
teaching. 
It's a contact time of the 

613
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:04,600
Judgment including all of those 
times like in the mornings and 

614
00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:06,500
when you're dismissing them or 
whatever you know when you're 

615
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:07,900
not teaching but you need to be 
with them. 

616
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,700
Yeah. 
I contact time right. 

617
00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:11,300
Yeah. 
Just contact time I think there 

618
00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:13,400
has to be there has to be 
something to do with planning. 

619
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:21,200
I know that's going to be a 
funny one PPA we try that and I 

620
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,000
bet it covers things like 
marking and assessments that To 

621
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,300
do it properly, welcomes all. 
Well, we're going to come into 

622
00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:30,600
that in much more detail later. 
It's there, but it's not really 

623
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,200
enough, but keep going. 
Okay, that's interesting. 

624
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,300
Is it takes a lot of time to 
mock tests and things. 

625
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:38,900
Yeah, I reckon parents evening. 
That's gotta be Mac me is in 

626
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:43,300
there but yeah, it started 
reports report writing. 

627
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:45,100
No. 
Oh really, I really think that 

628
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:48,900
almost in there. 
Not, not directly in directed 

629
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:50,100
time. 
Oh, that's interesting. 

630
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:51,600
I this thought I was given. 
Yeah. 

631
00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:53,500
No, not in the list on any you 
my fraid. 

632
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:55,400
So unless Got their information 
wrong. 

633
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,500
It's not actually directly in 
that time. 

634
00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:59,700
Lot of schools give time for it,
which is very good and grateful,

635
00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:02,000
but it's not in directed time. 
I'm going to presume. 

636
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,900
I don't know if this is the 
right sort of thing is, like, 

637
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:06,300
break duties, lunch duties. 
Is that a thing that had been 

638
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:09,500
done Exercise? 
I'm so any duty is indirect to 

639
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:11,800
time, okay? 
But not lunch. 

640
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,900
Lunch is one hour where it 
technically, it's not on our 

641
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:16,100
contract. 
We're not paid. 

642
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,900
Of course, teachers always take 
the full hour and just chill and

643
00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:19,700
relax. 
Don't know how them? 

644
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,200
Yeah, and don't do any work. 
Definitely, definitely. 

645
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,200
That's true. 
Don't get me started. 

646
00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:25,200
Technically, Early lunch hour, 
not at all. 

647
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,400
In director time, cannot be 
directed during that time, 

648
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,300
cannot be told to do something 
or X, Y Zed, that is 

649
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:31,700
interesting. 
And we'll talk more about it 

650
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:33,000
later. 
But anyway, I'm trying think 

651
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,400
what else might be interested 
time? 

652
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,600
You've pretty much got them. 
All, there's only one. 

653
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,900
One last thing and I'm in my 
list are thing about something 

654
00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:43,200
happens every week. 
We always it meetings, meetings,

655
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:45,700
exactly yeah. 
Any meetings after school. 

656
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:47,600
So professional development 
training. 

657
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,400
And if you have a group meeting 
and stuff, you can't be directed

658
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,600
to do that. 
If unless it comes out of your 

659
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,600
director time, of course. 
So there's there's lots in 

660
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,500
there, right? 
There's lots in there, but 

661
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,400
nowhere near what? 
The job entails. 

662
00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:03,300
So, the whole point of this kind
of exercise, hate is just to 

663
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:06,400
show that. 
Yes, the bear number of hours in

664
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,800
our contract is much less than 
what you say. 

665
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:14,600
The average worker might do in a
year, but but but but if you add

666
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:21,200
up a generic timetable, let's 
say from 8:30, to let's say 3:30

667
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:23,300
because you have to dismiss 
children as well, and that's 

668
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:24,800
part of it. 
Erected time you see what the 

669
00:29:24,808 --> 00:29:30,100
children if you add up those 
hours of just being in school, 

670
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:33,200
not counting lunch hour, but 
from When the Children walk in 

671
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,300
the door. 
So when you have this Le 

672
00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:37,700
contacts on, at the end of the 
day, more contact time and the 

673
00:29:37,708 --> 00:29:39,300
meeting. 
So we add on an extra hour a 

674
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:43,100
week and another arrow week, 
let's say for CPD, let's just 

675
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:45,000
say that let's add that in there
for good measure because usually

676
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,900
a couple hours a week where you 
directed to do meetings and CPD.

677
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:55,500
If you add up all of those hours
together, you get to about Fifty

678
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:59,500
two hundred hours below contact 
time, but then you've got to add

679
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:01,900
in what we said. 
Parents evenings community 

680
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:04,800
events, open evenings, all those
things that kind of happen 

681
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,000
throughout the year, right? 
That gets you pretty much to our

682
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,300
contact time to our director 
time story. 

683
00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:13,800
So, the teaching the delivery of
the teaching, the meetings, 

684
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,000
you've got to go to anything 
your director to do in your time

685
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,900
in school. 
Gets you to the directed Taco. 

686
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:24,100
Okay, your turn. 
So basically the A time that 

687
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:28,800
were given only just covers like
that they'll, you know, like the

688
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,800
bare necessity of a job, like 
they actually being with the 

689
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,000
kids. 
So other than the PPA that we 

690
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,300
get, which we've already jokes 
about, which is, you know, about

691
00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:40,000
two hours a week all of the 
planning and a like extra 

692
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,700
assessment. 
You do any marking have to do, 

693
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:43,900
which is obviously a ridiculous 
job. 

694
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,100
That's not socially included 
know, and think of it this way, 

695
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:49,600
right? 
That, that was it. 1200 hours of

696
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,700
contact Time. 
Vast majorities teaching, right 

697
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:56,300
those lessons have to be made. 
Not just that that curated by us

698
00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:59,100
and I just want to break down 
planning because again, people 

699
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,000
might think oh you can just grab
planning from online but it's 

700
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,800
just not true. 
You've got to adapt it to your 

701
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,900
class. 
You've got to build it from 

702
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:06,700
scratch most of the time, if 
your school's embarking on a new

703
00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:09,700
curriculum, that's a huge lot of
work load that's going to be put

704
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:13,000
onto to plan in your own time. 
Maths English. 

705
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,600
All the afternoon lessons. 
You've got to interpret a 

706
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,200
curriculum. 
Read a curriculum. 

707
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,300
Know what? 
You've got to deliver you to 

708
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:20,400
your children. 
Prepare the teaching slides, 

709
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,600
prepare the tasks. 
That's just too. 

710
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,200
Be able to deliver it in the 
first place, which is all we're 

711
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,600
getting paid for in our 
contract, the preparation 

712
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:32,000
Hayden. 
When was the last time? 

713
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,700
I said it earlier, you spent a 
lunchtime. 

714
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:36,100
Just having your lunch when it's
not part of director time. 

715
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:37,900
So we can add this onto the 
list. 

716
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,200
What do teachers spend? 
Most their lunch time doing 

717
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:42,600
honestly? 
And I really, really truly think

718
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,700
I'm not exaggerating here. 
I think I genuinely speak for 

719
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:49,000
every single teacher in this 
country I would say, the average

720
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,700
teacher spends at least 50% of 
their lunch hour preparing. 

721
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,500
Fold are afternoon lessons 
because guess what afternoon 

722
00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:00,000
lessons these days are like 2 
hours long in total in the 

723
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000
average school, they don't just 
magically happen. 

724
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:05,500
You need to have your resources 
ready to keep children 

725
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:07,500
entertained and learning for two
hours. 

726
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:10,400
It takes time, and that's for a 
normal lesson. 

727
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,100
Now, this is where my gears 
really get ground. 

728
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:23,000
Because when you're getting 
ground here, son, so it's when 

729
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:25,100
we have Have lessons which are 
amazing. 

730
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,000
But I think is I love these 
lessons and I'm not taking away 

731
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,300
from doing these. 
I think there's a great in the 

732
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:31,400
best experiences but art 
lessons, DT lessons, cooking 

733
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,700
lessons. 
If you do that sort of thing 

734
00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:37,400
they they take honestly. 
Usually all of your lunch hour 

735
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,000
and probably a bit of time in 
the morning or desperate help 

736
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,200
from another adult because you 
realize you haven't an hour 

737
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,000
isn't enough time to prep, all 
the stuff that the resources 

738
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,000
they need. 
So yeah. 

739
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,600
That was my little rant, but 
lunch hour the fact that that's 

740
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,900
not paid, which I didn't know. 
By the way, I genuinely. 

741
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:54,900
Thought that was just a paid out
of our day is, is I'm just 

742
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:58,300
thinking, now, over the eight 
years, how many hours of Free 

743
00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:00,700
Labor? 
I have given in my lunch time 

744
00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:02,500
and it's definitely normal 
expected. 

745
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,500
By the way, I've also been asked
to do things in that time. 

746
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:06,900
Many many, a times, can you undo
this as first aid? 

747
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:08,500
Can you go ahead with this? 
He comes out. 

748
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:10,400
Can you help me prep? 
This, could you go to meet that 

749
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,600
confirming that parent? 
Like, I didn't even think 

750
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,800
anything of it, I just do those 
things because I thought it was 

751
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,500
my job, but I'm not paid. 
No, genuine eat. 

752
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:21,000
It is not part of director time.
So, and here's the thing, just 

753
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,200
again, going into that Clause 
that's in our contract. 

754
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,000
There is just a professional 
standard that they just tag into

755
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,200
the contract so that they get 
away with this. 

756
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,900
You have to put in the 
additional amount of time, not 

757
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:34,100
specified. 
It just says adequate to do the 

758
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,100
job. 
So everything else that's just 

759
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:39,000
expected. 
But not in directed time, just 

760
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600
has to be done and it's written 
there in your contract. 

761
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,500
It makes it an exponential makes
an infinite contract. 

762
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,300
It in any other job. 
If you have to stay late until 

763
00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:50,600
9:00, you have to still not less
a nice parents evening, like 

764
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,800
Park director time, but let's 
just say you have to have 

765
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,600
meetings after. 
Or you run over to 6 p.m. you'd 

766
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,600
put a form in for overtime, that
that can't happen for. 

767
00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:02,300
There's no such thing as over 
time because it's just cool. 

768
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:03,600
Was it part of the job? 
You've got to do? 

769
00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:05,400
Obviously I wouldn't be doing it
cool though. 

770
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,400
You've already been paid for it 
then and I just don't get it. 

771
00:34:07,408 --> 00:34:09,199
There's no incentive, there's no
incentive there. 

772
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,199
Like, why am I going to work 
till 6:00 every day? 

773
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,500
If it's the same, as we work 
until 4:30 and I get the job 

774
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:17,199
done, still it is no 
professional kind of respect, in

775
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:21,100
terms of our time is teachers. 
I actually really deep in 

776
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:22,600
thought now because you said 
something interesting. 

777
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,699
I don't I've just never thought 
about this. 

778
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,900
He's right, you said like the 
average job, let's say you work 

779
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:27,699
in. 
Was it? 

780
00:34:27,707 --> 00:34:32,000
48 weeks a year, you said 38 
hours a week and you said it 

781
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,500
came out to something, I'm going
to round it like 1800 hours. 

782
00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:37,400
It was around that kind of. 
Yeah, it was, it was basically. 

783
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,600
It was basically very, very 
similar to if you add all our 

784
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,800
extra things together it comes 
out to what about 1800 is that? 

785
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,900
There's a standard full-time 
job. 

786
00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:46,800
Yeah. 
Okay, cool. 

787
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,500
So but I'd directed hours were 
1265 ish. 

788
00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:52,400
Something like that? 
Yes. 

789
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,400
Yeah. 
And so there is so I see Kind of

790
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,100
I'm having a thought now about 
like, how I do understand that 

791
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:01,200
then we are like technically 
those directed hours are 

792
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,000
actually a lot less than the 
average job. 

793
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:06,300
So it does kind of make sense 
that we should do things outside

794
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:09,400
of those hours. 
But what I'm struggling to 

795
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,800
understand is one, what is the 
average amount of time? 

796
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,100
Teachers are really doing them 
because we don't seem to have 

797
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:18,400
actual figures on it, you know? 
I mean, it's clearly way more 

798
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,600
than this what this amount and 
to why isn't there an actual 

799
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,600
cap? 
I don't why. 

800
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,200
Why isn't there an actual? 
Okay. 

801
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,000
Yeah we expect this is a minimum
but also this is a maximum 

802
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,900
because, you know, well-being is
important. 

803
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:32,900
I've just really confused as to 
why that hasn't been put in 

804
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:36,400
place other than not being. 
So I'm genuinely I'm genuinely 

805
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,900
so glad you asked because I ran 
a more simplified version of. 

806
00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:41,700
It was just me saying because 
I'm aware. 

807
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,100
There's lots of numbers been 
banded about that the kind of 

808
00:35:44,107 --> 00:35:45,800
summary of what we've said. 
So far is yes. 

809
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,700
Our contract is much less. 
Yes, we get 13 weeks off but 

810
00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:52,300
it's so intense. 
During term time that we work 

811
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:54,600
such long days and don't Really 
stop that. 

812
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,100
I honestly don't start. 
We eat for 20 minutes maybe and 

813
00:35:58,100 --> 00:35:59,700
then in our break time we're 
prepping something and I 

814
00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:01,700
lunchtime were prepping 
something after school was sat 

815
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:04,200
down with marking straight away.
It's so intense. 

816
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,800
So, I just thought, okay, we've 
broken down the hours that 

817
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,400
technically we do, right? 
But I just thought to myself. 

818
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,600
Let's do a really simplified 
version of this calculation of 

819
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,000
just taking your average teacher
from the time, they walk in the 

820
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,000
door at school to the time they 
walk out. 

821
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,900
Okay. 
And I think it's really fair to 

822
00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:22,800
say, I know me personally the 
this isn't this isn't 

823
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,400
necessarily what I do. 
You because I've kind of gotten 

824
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,100
to habit of coming into school 
slightly later because stuff 

825
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:30,300
might be prepped and then I 
might stay later some days. 

826
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:31,600
It's just it varies for 
everyone. 

827
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,900
But I think a really fair 
average for a teacher getting in

828
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:37,900
school at 7:30 and leaving 
school at 5:00. 

829
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:41,000
A very, very Standard time. 
I'd say, I think to get to get 

830
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,700
your preparation done in the 
morning. 

831
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,300
And then also, after school, to 
get all of your marketing done 

832
00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:47,600
because let's not forget, you 
might have 90 books to Mark 

833
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,800
every single day I'm on. 
And some of those days would 

834
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,000
include meetings and things as 
well, or we adding that on top. 

835
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:53,200
Yeah. 
No, no. 

836
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,200
So, Saying five is a really fair
like under estimate of, you 

837
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,300
know, that's an average time you
might leave because there will 

838
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:01,800
be days, we'll leave at 5:30 
5:45, they'll be some days where

839
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,000
you might be able to leave at 
4:30. 

840
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,500
But I think a fair average is 
five o'clock. 

841
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:07,600
I think that's really important 
as well because I just I don't 

842
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,000
want to come across like, we're 
exaggerating and make it all 

843
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,500
look as teachers we do so much. 
I think it's really important 

844
00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:15,200
the listeners understand that, 
that is a very modest. 

845
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,400
I think, average of What 
teachers do because I know that 

846
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,900
there have been many years in my
career that I did considerably 

847
00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:22,900
longer days and that. 
And also like I said years other

848
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:25,500
years where My work days were 
completely different to that but

849
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:26,700
that's a good average. 
Yes sir. 

850
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:28,900
That's the point I don't exactly
right. 

851
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:31,800
What you just said you did. 
We're not saying oh well life so

852
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,000
hard. 
We're just trying to get people 

853
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000
to understand the actual hours 
and the work. 

854
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,500
We do whom who don't know and 
aren't even horrible about it, 

855
00:37:38,508 --> 00:37:40,800
they just unaware, they just 
don't quite get it, they don't 

856
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,200
see it. 
So yeah, 7:30 till 5:00 that's 

857
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,900
nine and a half hours, right? 
What I am going to do and I'm 

858
00:37:46,908 --> 00:37:49,600
being perfectly transparent. 
Here is I'm just counting the 

859
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,600
lunch hour because I promise you
like you said 99% of teachers. 

860
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,300
More than half their lunchtime 
going for it. 

861
00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:58,100
Ok, so let's call it nine and a 
half hours and we'll take a bit 

862
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:00,400
back because most teachers work 
longer than these hours every 

863
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,400
day. 
So let's just call it nine and a

864
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,500
half hours out of your home. 
When you get to school and you 

865
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:09,500
leave every single day, that's 
47 hours and a half every week. 

866
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,800
So think of a standard full-time
job, just under 40, we're 

867
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,900
working just under 50, it's just
way more intense. 

868
00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:17,400
Okay? 
That by the way is from getting 

869
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,100
into school to leaving school. 
So if we extrapolate that out 

870
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:24,100
for 39 weeks because obviously, 
we don't work for E 2 weeks. 

871
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:25,500
We work for 39 weeks. 
Yeah. 

872
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:31,300
And we then multiply that out. 
We get to the magic number 1850 

873
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:35,000
and if we compare that to the 
standard full-time job of 38 

874
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,300
hours a week for 48 weeks, 
that's 1830 roughly. 

875
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,800
So they're very very close, 
they're the same, it's just that

876
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,700
we're working more intensely for
six weeks. 

877
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:47,200
Then we got a whole week off 
more intensity for six weeks. 

878
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,700
Then we might get six weeks off 
and it goes for the year, okay? 

879
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,400
But you may have noticed 
something about my calculations.

880
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:54,600
I've dived was about to Painting
because I think I know you're 

881
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,200
going to say, obviously, that 
the burning thing here is and I 

882
00:38:57,207 --> 00:39:00,000
know teachers at home will be 
like you've not included this 

883
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:05,300
huge part of the job, which is 
every weekend in term time. 

884
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:07,000
Like I try to be really good at 
a hard time. 

885
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,400
I'm not even going to, this is 
another level loads of teachers.

886
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,300
I know most teachers that I know
work so much over half turn 

887
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:15,300
brakes as well. 
I'm not going to close that. 

888
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,200
But honestly, weekends every 
teacher puts in work that we 

889
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,800
can, whether it's for hours on a
Sunday morning where it's all 

890
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,700
day Saturday. 
Whether it's a bitter cup of our

891
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:28,900
Sunday night, you can't, you 
just cannot plan a week of 

892
00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:32,900
lessons inside your two hours of
PPA with the other 65 jobs that 

893
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:34,000
you have to do in that two 
hours. 

894
00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:37,000
It's not possible, but if you're
weakened has to go to it. 

895
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,800
So the fact that you haven't 
included that in your kind of 

896
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,300
total there of 1800 hours just 
shows that that is a very very 

897
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:46,800
modest number and it's almost 
definitely more than that. 

898
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:49,500
What I really want to just drive
home now and thank you so much 

899
00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:52,300
for listening to us but this 
long because we are really 

900
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,300
passionate about just showing 
Information. 

901
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:56,500
Because it's just not 
understood. 

902
00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:58,800
And I think the point to 
summarize, what we're saying is 

903
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,300
just the act of going to school 
teaching, delivering lessons 

904
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:04,600
doing everything involved in our
day. 

905
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,500
And going home is already a 
full-time job across the whole 

906
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:09,800
year. 
It's just more intense. 

907
00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:13,400
We also then have this 
expectation, built into our 

908
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,600
contract to do things outside of
that, which happens at our 

909
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,600
weekends in term time, the ride 
is wild, there are business 

910
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,500
owners out there who say they 
work 80 hours a week. 

911
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:25,500
More power to you. 
Unbelievable. 

912
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:28,300
So, hard-working deserve 
everything, you get, we're not 

913
00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:30,500
comparing. 
We're not saying, oh, I'll be 

914
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:32,900
the best or oh, okay, so hard 
done by. 

915
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:35,600
No, we get a decent wage, you 
know, we want to keep up with 

916
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,700
inflation. 
But we are aware that people 

917
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:40,000
work a lot more than us and 
actually end up getting paid 

918
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000
less as well. 
It's not a comparison. 

919
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,900
It's just information and 
hopefully, you know, a little 

920
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:48,500
bit more now about the actual 
workload as a teacher. 

921
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,100
And if you look at the title of 
our podcast, how much the 

922
00:40:51,107 --> 00:40:54,400
teachers actually work, well, 
what Are they than well 

923
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,400
hopefully the answer that 
question and the answer is we 

924
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,000
have no idea but somewhere 
around 1800 to 7,000 hours a 

925
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,500
year. 
We've just spent half an hour 

926
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:06,000
explaining something and to are 
not answer the question. 

927
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:09,000
Yeah I think I think what the 
bit that we've answered his 

928
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,900
teachers work, a normal amount 
if not more, simple. 

929
00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:13,700
As that, just condensed across 
the year. 

930
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,200
Bish bash, Bosh. 
Now we're all informed can move 

931
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,300
on All right, I've got a quick 
one for you. 

932
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:23,300
Hey them, a little story that 
got sent in to me by one of my 

933
00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:27,100
friends who listen to the 
podcast and I'm going to frame 

934
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:31,600
this as a game, okay? 
Okay, so I'm going to read you a

935
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,100
word and way to tell me what 
this word means, okay? 

936
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,500
Because we all know you're 
you're brilliant and you know 

937
00:41:38,500 --> 00:41:40,100
I'm picking root words and 
stuff. 

938
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:43,000
The word is I'm going to take 
the word first. 

939
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,900
Give me a force. 
The word is the room. 

940
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,100
Vrroom, vrroom. 
I thought you're gonna embarrass

941
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:52,200
me. 
I don't know. 

942
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,100
Should I know what this word is?
Am I supposed to know? 

943
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,100
He's up? 
Eat enemies. 

944
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:57,800
Not heard of the ride but room. 
No. 

945
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,400
Is it, is it something to do for
room? 

946
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:03,500
But I don't know, I feel like an
idiot. 

947
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:08,100
Now, right, let me read you a 
sentence and we can what we can 

948
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:10,900
do, Hayden, we can read Around 
the word, okay? 

949
00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:12,300
I can wait around the word, 
ready? 

950
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,300
Yeah, I found him dozing 
comfortably by the barroom 

951
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:20,800
stove. 
Of the old dilapidated Tavern. 

952
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,700
So a color, some sort of them 
comfortably by the barroom 

953
00:42:24,700 --> 00:42:28,700
stove, or Warm Spice. 
This is so this what exactly 

954
00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:31,100
what you're doing right now. 
Yeah, is what my friend was 

955
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:32,500
days? 
Have watts per room? 

956
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:35,600
I don't understand what the room
is barroom. 

957
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:46,500
Like be a one word and he said, 
he went to Google and you're 

958
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:49,000
such a room. 
Ho, it's It's a room where you 

959
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,200
can get drinks, that sounds like
a fantastic. 

960
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,300
I still didn't click, if not 
click at all. 

961
00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:55,400
So I read in the next patient. 
Wait a minute. 

962
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,100
That's exactly what I did with 
under. 

963
00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:58,900
Tell your friend. 
He's very under thinking this. 

964
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:02,600
Yeah, that's funny. 
See, it was really funny, by the

965
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,700
way, what was really funny about
this was? 

966
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:08,000
I just kept reading, cuz he sent
me the paragraph and it goes on 

967
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,000
to explain that this bloke. 
You find is a bald man. 

968
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,900
I was like, it's in the room. 
It's so is understand. 

969
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:18,000
Us is a link back to me. 
Everything comes back. 

970
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:21,800
So on the topic of, you know, me
being a fool, I'm going to drag 

971
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,600
you into this now because I've 
actually got a story, I 

972
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,600
Confessions of a teacher and the
teacher happens to be me and 

973
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,500
kind of you because you're 
involved in this story. 

974
00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:29,900
Just don't know what it is. 
Okay, I'm looking forward to 

975
00:43:29,908 --> 00:43:30,500
this. 
Remember. 

976
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,000
Okay, so I remember this earlier
right at it just I just like 

977
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,500
creasing up, you know what you 
do and you just remember 

978
00:43:35,500 --> 00:43:40,000
something random and it is a 
memory from maybe second year of

979
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,200
teaching perhaps like well you 
know we all been would have been

980
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,700
my third year your second year 
and we worked at the same school

981
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,500
and both of us I'm going to 
confess this right now because 

982
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:51,300
I'm not afraid. 
I think a lot of other people 

983
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:54,600
will share this. 
We hate doing displays. 

984
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:57,200
Oh, don't get me, honestly, lick
that. 

985
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,100
Let's look back to direct the 
time. 

986
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:00,200
Shall we should have mentioned 
this? 

987
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,400
Because, because depending on 
the school year, in displays may

988
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,900
be the bane of your life, or 
they may be something that's 

989
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:08,700
just kind of quite casual and 
you just update them every now 

990
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:11,800
and then but displays for non 
teachers, are those things in 

991
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,600
the classrooms with this stupid 
borders? 

992
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,100
They look the same. 
Since about nineteen sixty, the 

993
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:18,100
color backgrounds and put stuff 
on the display. 

994
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:22,600
Is and they look good. 
No one looks at them but they 

995
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,900
look good. 
They make the classroom that 

996
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:26,200
bright anyway. 
Then I quickly discovered that 

997
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,300
that we absolutely hate doing 
that job is it's like this 

998
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,500
honest on top of all the other 
jobs we have to do this. 

999
00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:33,800
It's the yeah it's like a little
pile. 

1000
00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:35,600
I've got I've got an option 
here. 

1001
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:38,800
I can either sit and mark the 60
books that I need to Mark every 

1002
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,900
day or I could go and update 
that display in a corridor that 

1003
00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:45,300
three people. 
Look at every mmmm, which one 

1004
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:48,800
should I do? 
So one year did And I, you know,

1005
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,300
being rebellious after making 
our city stickers as well, that 

1006
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:54,500
you hear from our kind of our 
podcast episodes, we just 

1007
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:59,600
thought it would be funny. 
A fun game to see how long leave

1008
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,100
this one particular backing up 
on this display and it was it 

1009
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:05,900
wasn't just any old back. 
It wasn't just like a yellow 

1010
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:08,600
color or something, it wasn't 
underwater theme. 

1011
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,000
So how many topics across the 
year? 

1012
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:17,200
Can we somehow make some tenuous
lead to an underwater background

1013
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,600
theme? 
So that we never I have to 

1014
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,800
change it because we really got 
me bothered. 

1015
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,800
Well yeah, I remember this 
because it started off strong. 

1016
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,900
Right water cycle. 
Yes. 

1017
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,400
A big ocean, nice one. 
But we also did Egypt, and I 

1018
00:45:29,408 --> 00:45:31,200
remember thinking, oh, River 
Nile. 

1019
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:37,100
And we also did living organisms
and food chains. 

1020
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:38,100
Like cool. 
What's the food chain? 

1021
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:39,700
But you did go buy into the 
woods. 

1022
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:42,400
I'm sure it fell down when we 
had to do a topic on like 

1023
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,100
volcanoes and earthquakes and 
stuff. 

1024
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:47,900
And I memorize being like 
tsunamis. 

1025
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,800
Yes natural disaster. 
It was like, it was tectonic 

1026
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,000
plates, wasn't it? 
So it did link. 

1027
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,700
Yeah, but our main focus was not
inhabited like half a lesson on 

1028
00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:01,400
tsunamis cool. 
So now, he's a doll. 

1029
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,000
Wait, let's get up and we kept 
it up there for a staggering. 

1030
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,000
It was more than a year. 
Actually, we definitely more 

1031
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,700
than a year. 
We did a whole year and then we 

1032
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:11,700
just kind of continue to use it 
for a bit longer and the joke 

1033
00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:13,700
sort of run out eventually when 
someone was like, yeah you going

1034
00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:17,500
to change? 
That's this place I guess. 

1035
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,800
Tell you what those it really 
didn't it just show that no one 

1036
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,300
of our whole year. 
No one noticed not a single 

1037
00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:26,800
child or adult in our school 
remotely noticed I commented on 

1038
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,100
it, just highlighting the 
enormous waste of time. 

1039
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:30,900
It would have been to change 
every two months. 

1040
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,100
Yeah. 
It's just it's just look I know 

1041
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,000
that it's lovely. 
Like I like this plane 

1042
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,200
children's work actually. 
That's one thing I do like doing

1043
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,100
because it can become like a bit
of a prize and a bit of a you 

1044
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:43,900
know ambition for them to get 
their work on the wall and 

1045
00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:45,800
stuff. 
But I don't even do that as much

1046
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,000
as I used to because honestly 
truly Lee when I'm in the 

1047
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,100
classroom I'm just focused on 
delivering that lesson and 

1048
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:54,500
delivering it as best I can for 
the children and they get the 

1049
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:55,800
support they can in front of 
them, do you know? 

1050
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,000
I mean it's lovely and as some 
classrooms genuinely I are 

1051
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,700
completely get that they look 
unreal and they're really nice 

1052
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:07,000
places to be in but it just 
doesn't always actually directly

1053
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,500
linked to their learning and 
their progress. 

1054
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:11,800
And I think we're one of the 
worst professions in the world 

1055
00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:14,500
for doing stuff because it's 
what we do, you know, rather 

1056
00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:17,400
than because it's, you know, 
clinically proven or toxin 

1057
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,200
there's a Line is take box and 
again, right? 

1058
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,600
So I I'm really curious to know 
that about the people listening,

1059
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,900
particularly, obviously if 
you're working in a school, what

1060
00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:29,900
you think about this? 
Because I realized a couple of 

1061
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:33,700
years, I guess into my career, 
that this tick boxing exercise 

1062
00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:36,400
of having displays which was 
just really standard practice. 

1063
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,600
I didn't really question it 
before. 

1064
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,500
Then I was like, yeah, of course
you do you have to have 

1065
00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:42,200
displays, you have to, you know,
make the children engage with 

1066
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,900
these displays in the classroom 
show. 

1067
00:47:43,900 --> 00:47:46,100
A bit of their work have really 
fun displays as well to aren't? 

1068
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:48,000
They work. 
Just things to get them engaged.

1069
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,400
And I realized after a couple of
years that it absolutely should 

1070
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,400
just be a preference because I 
think I personally think that 

1071
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,800
displays are just a tool that 
you may or may not remotely use.

1072
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:05,200
And because I know some teachers
who use a displays religiously 

1073
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,000
and they're really effective, 
they have working walls that 

1074
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,700
they change all the time. 
They display is like another 

1075
00:48:10,700 --> 00:48:14,100
whiteboard to them and that's 
the way they use it and I know 

1076
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:16,600
and I'm like that's you know, 
always amazed by that. 

1077
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,500
But I feel like that what 
Happens. 

1078
00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:20,400
What if it gets extrapolated 
from that is then. 

1079
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:23,400
Okay, cool air has to do that 
now and it's like our but that's

1080
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,000
not my teaching style. 
Everyone's got to so well, no, 

1081
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,200
because I will do. 
I will get that learning across.

1082
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,200
I just happen to have put that 
time and effort into this other 

1083
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,500
thing by the way. 
And I'm going to use that as my 

1084
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:35,400
teaching tool and I'm going to 
display these things, a 

1085
00:48:35,408 --> 00:48:36,900
different way. 
So I don't know if people agree 

1086
00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:38,700
of that, I've done. 
If I'm just like convincing 

1087
00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:40,800
myself because I don't want to 
do an extra job. 

1088
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,100
Now, I think the thing that 
listen look that's part of it 

1089
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:46,900
right, when we've got a list of 
15 jobs, we have to prioritize 

1090
00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:50,200
and and it in In terms of my own
teaching style and your teaching

1091
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,200
style, that's never going to be 
top of the list is it? 

1092
00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:55,100
But what might be top of the 
list is going to get a new blow 

1093
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:57,200
dart from the blow dart shot 
because you really good option 

1094
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:04,900
to display the kids. 
New luck mr. 

1095
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:06,300
Stevens. 
Hello mr. 

1096
00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:07,700
Stephens, can you show me? 
Where? 

1097
00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:09,400
All of your key vocab is for the
children. 

1098
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,200
Should look at. 
No, sorry, exactly a jungle 

1099
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:17,500
display left but I tell you 
what, they back to the serious 

1100
00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:20,700
point, I You a lot of things 
like like you know, where people

1101
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:23,000
do have that key vocab and 
working walls and stuff, like 

1102
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,600
they display key stuff for their
learning. 

1103
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,800
I'd rather put down a little 
sheet and they can stay elastic 

1104
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:28,900
in there because a flap. 
It's like cool. 

1105
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:31,800
Let's look, let's use our little
like key knowledge vocab she or 

1106
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,400
something. 
That just happens to be my, kind

1107
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,500
of way of sticking key things 
that they have access to all the

1108
00:49:36,500 --> 00:49:38,400
time. 
Another teachers, do it a 

1109
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,900
different way and I'm just sort 
of like, can we, can we just not

1110
00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:44,700
make this crazy expectation of 
spending hours and hours and 

1111
00:49:44,700 --> 00:49:47,300
hours and hours, doing displays 
because it just looks nice from 

1112
00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:50,000
one perspective. 
Of basically an outsider looking

1113
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,300
in. 
It doesn't have any meaning any 

1114
00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:54,100
contacts unless you really delve
deep into. 

1115
00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:55,000
Okay. 
How is it use though? 

1116
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,700
Well, if you're a teacher, let 
us know what you think. 

1117
00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:58,500
And if you're not, thank you for
listening to them. 

1118
00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:01,800
Yeah, I hope you're not alone 
without. 

1119
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,800
Yeah, I would make it as nice a 
there. 

1120
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,400
No, they do, they do fascinate 
me. 

1121
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,700
I find these people. 
Amazing who I've had. 

1122
00:50:08,700 --> 00:50:12,000
People message me saying I 
didn't know that about teaching 

1123
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,700
and I love the idea of 
non-teachers just just enjoying 

1124
00:50:14,700 --> 00:50:17,200
this podcast because it's just 
you know, as to talking about 

1125
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,000
our experiences, Having a bit of
fun. 

1126
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:20,900
I still don't get it by the way.
So if you're listening you're 

1127
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:22,500
not a teacher, don't understand 
why here. 

1128
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,200
I really, really appreciate it 
but just I do understand where 

1129
00:50:25,207 --> 00:50:27,800
here Dylan because they're here 
to share our reals, they're here

1130
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,800
to go to Instagram and help us 
promote organic growth as we've 

1131
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,200
been saying organic organic 
growth right from me pestering 

1132
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,800
you constantly. 
So thank you guys. 

1133
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,700
I love you. 
But Dylan, we're going to move 

1134
00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:46,000
on to a toxic story. 
Just the one this week for 

1135
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,200
school so you can get your tea 
stuck into this. 

1136
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,800
I know you like to get. 
Is it going to get me angry? 

1137
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,300
Oh yeah, you're gonna get nice 
and riled. 

1138
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:53,100
Okay. 
And actually, it thinks really 

1139
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:55,200
well Hearts back to our 
conversation earlier and you'll 

1140
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,300
see why, okay? 
So someone recently wrote on a 

1141
00:50:58,300 --> 00:51:02,200
forum talking about PPA, which 
is something we've obviously 

1142
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,700
mentioned. 
And essentially, their problem 

1143
00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:09,000
was this, they haven't had PPA 
in three months. 

1144
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:12,500
And PPA is that planning 
preparation assessment time for 

1145
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:15,700
those listening to you. 
Today, it is a right for 

1146
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:18,600
teachers to have 10% of their 
time a week as BPA, they haven't

1147
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:23,300
had PPA for three months with no
particular, good excuses. 

1148
00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:26,100
Other then we just haven't got 
the this off cover to get you 

1149
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:29,300
out of class. 
No, no, I'm next, no, not not 

1150
00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:31,700
remotely acceptable, visit. 
Well, they're asking what the 

1151
00:51:31,707 --> 00:51:33,200
legal requirement was. 
So that was that kind of 

1152
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,500
question to this forum that 
it's, you know, I I'm going to 

1153
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:39,400
get annoyed again. 
Hey, I thought we'd come down 

1154
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,900
I'm going to get riled up again 
because it's not even a 

1155
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:45,100
question. 
Like, how could you hurt? 

1156
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:46,800
How could you have a kind of 
speak? 

1157
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:51,300
Would you have the brass tacks 
to say now to like, what do you 

1158
00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:53,900
mean now? 
It's not, it's not an option. 

1159
00:51:53,900 --> 00:51:55,600
It's not something we do to be 
kind. 

1160
00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:58,200
It's built in because guess 
what, like we just spent half an

1161
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,500
hour telling you all the actual 
job itself doesn't fit into our 

1162
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:04,600
time and we get a measly two 
hours as a token. 

1163
00:52:04,700 --> 00:52:07,500
You know, oh, look, maybe you 
could sort out your medium term 

1164
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:09,300
plan and go off at home and 
still do all your planning. 

1165
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,200
And you know, even get in the 
token like in terms of the 

1166
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,400
Garrity, you just get that. 
You get it and if you ever don't

1167
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,000
get it, then, you know, between 
you and your people in Charger 

1168
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,900
SRT, you sought out, payback 
time because it's not even a 

1169
00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:25,000
question. 
Like this guy's going to come, 

1170
00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:27,900
you know, they're going to end 
up having to do report soon. 

1171
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,500
There's parents evening coming 
up when and I have to be prepped

1172
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:32,700
for that, do you think we just 
turn up at parents evening and 

1173
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:34,100
just gonna die? 
Yeah, you're right. 

1174
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,200
When two reports get written 
just by the magic fairy while 

1175
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,000
some teaching maths. 
There's no there isn't Santa is 

1176
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,300
no question. 
They need that time and within 

1177
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:44,700
that sort of form is really 
interesting to us. 

1178
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:46,800
Kind of reading it or people's 
feedback and things like that 

1179
00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:50,700
that they sort of went on to say
that you know that essentially 

1180
00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:52,900
they're having to get the unions
involved because the school's 

1181
00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:57,200
not doing anything and they're 
facing like disciplinary actions

1182
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,800
for not getting stuff done. 
Like the cheek of facing 

1183
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,600
disciplinary action from the 
school for not getting these 

1184
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,600
extra things. 
Done the stuff that gets done in

1185
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,300
PBA and their point is, but I've
not been given any people. 

1186
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,000
PA. 
So I'm not just going to do it 

1187
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,400
even more in my own time. 
You like, you don't, you said 

1188
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,600
it's a token amount of time. 
Anyway, so the least you can do 

1189
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,500
is give me the. 
Give a give us that time and so 

1190
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:21,800
I'm I'm with that person. 
I stand with that person. 

1191
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,800
Don't do it. 
Don't do it, make it a standard,

1192
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,500
make a point because actually 
no, we, you know, we do a lot. 

1193
00:53:26,500 --> 00:53:29,400
We do a lot of free stuff. 
You don't need to do this extra 

1194
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,000
two hours a week, do you know, 
you are entitled to it. 

1195
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,200
And by the way, that's not just 
two hours, you know, contact 

1196
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,000
time, that's two hours of 
teaching, two hours of planning,

1197
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,300
two hours of marking, You know, 
all compounds show, uh, that, 

1198
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:43,600
that same, that's it. 
When we have PPA, you know, the 

1199
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,500
whole point is that, you know, 
we kind of have a bit more time 

1200
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:48,700
after because we've not got 
afternoon lesson to Mark, we've 

1201
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:51,000
got maps in English, the plan 
and Mark, but you know, you're 

1202
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,400
saving on all of those things, 
it kind of compounds and it's 

1203
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,200
not even a question, you know. 
It's that classic thing we said 

1204
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,300
earlier, when we had the podcast
about toxic schools, when people

1205
00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:04,800
at the top, just lie or just 
pretend something's, okay? 

1206
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,500
Because they're in a position of
power and it's not, it's not a, 

1207
00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:10,400
it's not a game. 
You don't get to choose. 

1208
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,400
When you're in charge of 
someone, it's a really high 

1209
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,000
pressure job. 
It's a really, really high 

1210
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,400
pressure job. 
But you cannot just pick and 

1211
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,900
choose what your staff are 
entitled to that. 

1212
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:21,500
That's just, not the way it 
goes. 

1213
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:22,500
I think they're gonna be in 
trouble. 

1214
00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:24,800
I'll say that, I don't think the
school's got a leg to stand on 

1215
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,600
if they get the uni involves 
unions involved as a really good

1216
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,100
one. 
I know it's an annoying one but 

1217
00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:31,600
it proper proper. 
Good story of just. 

1218
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,000
Wow, you know, you have to hear 
that every now and then to 

1219
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,700
remember there are some schools 
where this really does happen, 

1220
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,300
you know, count ourselves lucky 
foot. 

1221
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:40,900
Keep away are. 
All right. 

1222
00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:43,300
Then to finish off couple of 
stories from the classroom. 

1223
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,100
Like I said earlier, guys, you 
make this podcast so if you 

1224
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:48,400
follow us on Instagram, send us 
a message. 

1225
00:54:48,500 --> 00:54:50,700
We will reply. 
Send us an email with your 

1226
00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:55,800
stories because they really do 
just make this podcast so good 

1227
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,300
when we get to read these 
stories out to you guys. 

1228
00:54:57,300 --> 00:54:58,800
So a couple of short ones this 
week Hayden. 

1229
00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:02,700
Let me start off with one of 
them and I want to give a kind 

1230
00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:04,800
of like a bit of context here to
everyone who's listening, there 

1231
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,700
are making these puppets, 
basically it's to do with 

1232
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:09,100
showing right because one of the
things we do in our curriculum 

1233
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:12,300
is He's sewing DT, they're 
making these puppets. 

1234
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,700
The demon walked in afterwards 
and said, we're having a look at

1235
00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:18,600
what the children have made and 
picking them up. 

1236
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,600
And I look Dreadful and hello, 
my good. 

1237
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,000
Look at this one, this is 
unreal. 

1238
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,100
Look at that. 
This one's didn't even look like

1239
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:27,000
a person, this is crazy. 
And then this teacher who wrote 

1240
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,000
into a said that, they picked up
another one from the table and I

1241
00:55:30,008 --> 00:55:34,700
said, oh my God, this is the 
worst one that was look at this 

1242
00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:35,900
one. 
Which what? 

1243
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:38,900
Who did that? 
Was this person listening and 

1244
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,600
then the The class time around. 
I said Ah that's my one I made 

1245
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:49,100
before the lesson. 
No it was the teachers Dreadful.

1246
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:52,100
Oh my God, I do so read. 
That was me. 

1247
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,400
Just again the context of today.
So like we work so hard for our 

1248
00:55:57,408 --> 00:56:00,200
lunch hour, this teacher. 
It's a free lunch hour. 

1249
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,500
Making this up. 
It, I'm gonna model it to the 

1250
00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:10,000
children. 
Anyway, out that No, this is the

1251
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,200
fact they've been going through 
the board just like, like just 

1252
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,900
to pick up and go. 
Why is that? 

1253
00:56:13,900 --> 00:56:22,900
Why is this was for that. 
I think it was very much just 

1254
00:56:22,900 --> 00:56:25,000
like it's lovely, it's 
Hampshire. 

1255
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:32,200
It's right now, it's joking. 
And the worst thing is if 

1256
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,800
they're listening to this 
podcast, they just found out. 

1257
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,400
They didn't even get paid for 
that lunch work on. 

1258
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,900
Wow, how to rub salt in the 
wound? 

1259
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:43,800
What's your second story? 
I've got a quick one here again.

1260
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:47,700
This is from a person who worked
in a school so they were a 

1261
00:56:47,707 --> 00:56:50,200
governor and a TA and they 
worked in a school in various 

1262
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,800
roles. 
You know, there's classic people

1263
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,400
who again, just make the school 
run. 

1264
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,300
Just do all these jobs that need
to get done anyway. 

1265
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,000
So I'm going to read it as she 
sent this in to us. 

1266
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,300
I went into school once with my 
hair done and a few kids said 

1267
00:57:02,300 --> 00:57:03,600
they really liked it. 
That's always nice. 

1268
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,000
Isn't it when you walk in and 
you kind of dance my kids, do 

1269
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,600
it. 
Whenever I trim my beard, I all 

1270
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,900
are cut. 
Bend down and write down draft 

1271
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:14,500
on your chest. 
I was surprised today. 

1272
00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:19,100
Looking good, that's medically. 
All right, come on. 

1273
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,900
Yeah, okay so I use Head and 
Shoulders on my head and my 

1274
00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:26,400
shoulders. 
So anyway getting that base, in 

1275
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,900
the kids is nice and it because 
you know, 95% of children there 

1276
00:57:28,900 --> 00:57:32,200
will just be lovely. 
Yeah, but this one kid just said

1277
00:57:32,500 --> 00:57:36,800
I look like a man this one was a
man so she got I got okay? 

1278
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,000
Thank you kids, lovely nicest 
thing. 

1279
00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:40,500
Is this a storm with their brand
new haircuts? 

1280
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:44,600
Walking in any way this? 
This is this teacher was on 

1281
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,000
playground Duty. 
And that day the same kid had 

1282
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,300
been saying something to other 
children and other girl about 

1283
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:52,500
her hair being Tatty. 
So it's kids getting off. 

1284
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:54,300
Someone about are to go around 
and open at all. 

1285
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:58,800
There's and the girl obviously 
got really upset, who got told 

1286
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,700
that her Fringe was Tatty and 
she came over to me, crying the 

1287
00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:05,100
teacher. 
And I just said to her tell her 

1288
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:10,300
she needs a French cup. 
So clearly It's still feeling, 

1289
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:12,900
you know, anger at the fact, 
this child had come in and 

1290
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,300
dissed her hair. 
She said to the kid, don't I'll 

1291
00:58:16,300 --> 00:58:17,700
just go and tell her she needs 
her Fringe. 

1292
00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:23,100
Carl, no, not trying to Defuse 
The Situation already just told 

1293
00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:25,600
child to go. 
She's just using Charla's our 

1294
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,400
vessel. 
Basically to impart her own 

1295
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,200
anger and oh got go tennis L 
fridge. 

1296
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,300
Cut anyway, the child literally 
did that then she kind of very 

1297
00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:37,900
quickly realized wants to try to
run away, maybe I shouldn't have

1298
00:58:37,900 --> 00:58:40,200
done that so she does know. 
No more than tell the kid that I

1299
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,600
said, she needs a friend. 
Carlos Miss said, were you need 

1300
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,300
your friends cut off the other 
kid? 

1301
00:58:45,300 --> 00:58:47,900
Fold her arms and just glared at
the at me. 

1302
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,400
So just connectivity across the 
playground. 

1303
00:58:50,700 --> 00:58:53,200
I was waiting to be called in 
the next day, but it never 

1304
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,000
happened. 
All that happened. 

1305
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,500
From that day was The Fringe kid
just put Clips in from that day.

1306
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:04,000
No gave her a complex. 
Well, that's funny, just went 

1307
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,100
home. 
Went home took Mom, Mom can, can

1308
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:08,900
you buy me some hair clips, 
please? 

1309
00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:12,100
Because out why? 
It turns out that I've got a 

1310
00:59:12,100 --> 00:59:14,500
team, an Fringe, excuse me 
around. 

1311
00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:20,400
All right insults. 
Oh I thought that was brilliant.

1312
00:59:20,700 --> 00:59:23,100
Just that, you know, letting 
them a step every now and then 

1313
00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:25,400
because you know, children can 
say stuff to you just have to 

1314
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,700
brush it off, they're just 
children. 

1315
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,100
But sometimes they say something
like you've got, is it been 

1316
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:33,200
snowy? 
Got dandruff on you and five 

1317
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,800
years. 
Like, well, if Hayden said that 

1318
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,800
to me, I'd be coming right back 
with ritalin. 

1319
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,300
Yeah, one of my favorite in. 
Insults about me because like I 

1320
00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:42,900
said you know we try to teach 
the kids humility we laugh at 

1321
00:59:42,908 --> 00:59:45,000
jokes as long as I don't get 
inappropriate, I think in it. 

1322
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,600
Don't cross a line one of my 
favorite insult because usually 

1323
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:48,800
it's just something about me 
being bald. 

1324
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,600
It's not that funny. 
I just uh, pretend to laugh. 

1325
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,800
Oh yeah, I heard that joke. 
Many times best one to me. 

1326
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:57,400
Was there looking at me? 
Intently, it's happened twice, 

1327
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,400
actually funny enough. 
So intently now, like, where 

1328
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:06,400
does your forehead stop then? 
And then did this action, right?

1329
01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:08,900
Even if you're not watching a 
real, you can imagine this well,

1330
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,300
Everything, they're on their 
forehead, like just stop their 

1331
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:15,100
nose and they kind of moved 
upwards to show the sort of 

1332
01:00:15,100 --> 01:00:17,100
normal stretch your forehead. 
But then obviously, I don't have

1333
01:00:17,100 --> 01:00:19,700
any hair, so they just carried 
on. 

1334
01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:21,800
And then they went all the way 
down their back down to their 

1335
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,400
feet up around the front of 
their body and went back to 

1336
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:31,600
their nose ago. 
But uh That's so funny. 

1337
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,500
I couldn't even pretend to be 
annoyed at the fact that you 

1338
01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:36,900
insulted. 
Me terribly, my forehead being 

1339
01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:38,800
the entire circumference of my 
body. 

1340
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:45,500
Yeah, crack me up. 
Turns out I'm 100% for Eddie. 

1341
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:52,100
Yeah, they do just cut through. 
Sometimes. 

1342
01:00:52,300 --> 01:00:55,300
I've had a similar one, but, but
my favorite one ever, was just a

1343
01:00:55,308 --> 01:00:57,400
really blunt one. 
It was just really fun and I 

1344
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,000
just didn't know what to say. 
I just didn't know what to say, 

1345
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,200
it's all this child. 
Again, I was helping this child 

1346
01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:05,900
and I could kind of just tell 
immediately that, you know, you 

1347
01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:07,200
can just tell. 
They're just looking at you, 

1348
01:01:07,300 --> 01:01:08,500
right? 
Not listening to me, helping 

1349
01:01:08,500 --> 01:01:10,800
them at all. 
Just like, kind of Zone down, is

1350
01:01:10,808 --> 01:01:13,400
she staring? 
At me, I again, not my chest. 

1351
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:18,200
This time I face staring at my 
face and I don't touch him say 

1352
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,500
so, do you understand if she 
just went? 

1353
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:27,600
Why do you have spots? 
And I do you say to that. 

1354
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,500
I just know I just know a part 
of you was actually offended 

1355
01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:34,100
that that I just know it. 
Well it's not you know one 

1356
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:37,700
someone just to say that you 
like and so my response, my 

1357
01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:41,000
response. 
My response was literally just, 

1358
01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:46,700
oh, I don't know. 
Once on tear rolling down your 

1359
01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:48,400
eye but another another one 
right of. 

1360
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,800
Do you think about kids picking 
out the or spots? 

1361
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,000
Like just so beautiful but I 
didn't realize it. 

1362
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,000
I was anyone that was sure. 
Understand this if you don't 

1363
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,100
wear shirts very often, you 
might not. 

1364
01:01:58,100 --> 01:02:01,300
But obviously we were sure 
pretty much every day and 

1365
01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:04,000
obviously there's buttons going 
down and there's gaps in between

1366
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,100
the buttons, right? 
So, you know, I'm 30 now. 

1367
01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:09,300
All right, I'm a little bit 
heavier than I was when I 

1368
01:02:09,308 --> 01:02:11,400
started my teaching career. 
I got a bit more on belly, all 

1369
01:02:11,408 --> 01:02:13,400
right and but you haven't 
changed it. 

1370
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:14,900
You haven't changed your shirt, 
77 years old. 

1371
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:20,100
So I remember one time I did, I 
just didn't realize but one of 

1372
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:22,800
the buttons had come undone like
kind of near my belly button. 

1373
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,700
So a bit of my belly was just it
was just more. 

1374
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,000
Or visit was saying and I was 
just bending over just trying to

1375
01:02:28,008 --> 01:02:31,400
help a kid and I was just 
staring at me with disgust and 

1376
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,900
then just like the pointed. 
Just like that is just pointed 

1377
01:02:34,900 --> 01:02:36,600
at me and I look down. 
And I immediately felt really 

1378
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:37,800
embarrassed. 
I don't know why. 

1379
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,800
It was like, it's one button 
undone and it's slightly, you 

1380
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,200
can slightly see. 
My belly hair was just so 

1381
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,500
embarrassed and that kid, what 
did they didn't go? 

1382
01:02:45,900 --> 01:02:48,500
Almost seems just so, you know, 
when your button is undone, you 

1383
01:02:48,500 --> 01:02:50,800
might, you know, that in the 
nice about I like I'd say to you

1384
01:02:52,100 --> 01:02:56,600
on your buttons under they just 
uh, Like pretty and now I feel 

1385
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:57,500
self-conscious. 
Thank you. 

1386
01:02:57,500 --> 01:02:59,700
I was, I was really enjoying 
that story and I truly believed 

1387
01:02:59,700 --> 01:03:01,300
it. 
Until you said, if I had my 

1388
01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:02,800
button undone, you would just go
hotel. 

1389
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:08,200
If that's true. 
I would not know you would get 

1390
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,100
your phone out film. 
Yeah. 

1391
01:03:13,700 --> 01:03:15,400
Okay. 
So we are at the end of this 

1392
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,200
week's podcast, I like by the 
way Hayden. 

1393
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,100
How you know, it kind of 
evolved. 

1394
01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:22,100
I think one episode we said 
extended episode and it was like

1395
01:03:22,100 --> 01:03:26,200
an hour and 15 and now it's just
every episode is an extended 

1396
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,800
episode. 
But again, you guys seemed to 

1397
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,800
enjoy it. 
You guys seem to like it and 

1398
01:03:30,900 --> 01:03:33,500
jokes aside, I know we joke, a 
customers is to give us a 

1399
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:37,500
reviews and stuff but genuinely 
you really motivate us to 

1400
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:39,600
actually come back every week 
and keep doing this because we 

1401
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,600
absolutely love this. 
We'd be doing this to two 

1402
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,200
people. 
And it was just our parents 

1403
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,700
were, would have been really 
coming here? 

1404
01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:47,100
We stand to it yet. 
Literally be listening to again 

1405
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:50,000
after, but the fact that so many
of you are getting in touch of 

1406
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,500
us are following us are giving 
us the ratings are following and

1407
01:03:53,500 --> 01:03:56,600
I, of course, sharing the reels.
I will keep saying it, but but 

1408
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,300
it's just, it's so nice. 
And I want to say thank you to 

1409
01:04:00,300 --> 01:04:03,900
you guys for doing that because 
it's given us a little boost. 

1410
01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:05,400
Doesn't Hayden. 
Yeah, nice. 

1411
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,000
Nice morale boost. 
Absolutely loving it. 

1412
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,600
So yeah, massive thank-you from 
the both of us. 

1413
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,800
One quick note, those of you who
keep texting, Myself and Hayden 

1414
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,100
every week asking about the 
pretty stick story. 

1415
01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:18,700
Mmm, we've got some good news 
and some bad news, okay? 

1416
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:24,000
The good news, is the pretty 
stick story will be in your ear 

1417
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,400
holes very soon. 
Yeah, the bad news is, we don't 

1418
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,700
know when see you next time.