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All right, episode 11, we've 
done some kind of funny skit so 

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far, the people love it, they 
like Preston playing. 

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We get straight into a little 
joke, but I think in this time, 

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we have to go hard. 
Okay, we need to really push 

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forward with getting the people 
to share the podcast with their 

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friends. 
Ok, so any ideas, well, we need 

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more customers, don't we? 
And as much as they go to our 

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Spotify and they give us ratings
and stuff. 

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Yeah, you're right. 
We need people to share it on 

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their social media. 
Perhaps Facebook stuff. 

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Like this is the thing. 
They're on our Instagram. 

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They're interacting with us. 
The like an our post was telling

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them to get on their. 
Turn us to email us. 

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Anna stories, but the end of the
day we want to grow. 

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Well, I grow do. 
Anybody had been waiting for us 

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to grow grow, grow grow, grow 
podcast money, right? 

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You know, we've got 45 seconds 
or so, let's just tell them in a

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funny way, because otherwise, 
pretty pathetic, isn't it? 

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You listening to two fully grown
men sit in their rooms. 

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We're gonna have a lot of cars 
that alone like me, like me. 

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So, he time think of a really 
funny way of just getting them 

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to do it. 
That's clever. 

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We can't just tell them like, it
has to be as like a story. 

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You know how we did a story last
week. 

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We can't just tell them because 
it's pathetic. 

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They literally so pathetic. 
If we're lucky. 

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To see if we just do a thing 
where were like, hey guys, just 

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come and like share our podcast.
They're going to cringe. 

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They're gonna hate it. 
Like me, they call your friends 

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like me as well, please. 
So I could do this more. 

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It's just, honestly, I don't 
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I'm done, I'm finished. 
Okay, let's forget about it, 

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stupid idea. 
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Right. 
Hello everyone. 

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Hello everyone and welcome back 
to episode 11 of teach sleep. 

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Repeat, my name is Dylan. 
Okay, how is it the same way? 

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It's fine. 
We'll carry on, no, no, we'll 

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carry on. 
We'll carry on is fine. 

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And my name is Heather what he 
did. 

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I don't spill that you have 
because you know very well every

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now and then you put a little 
shopping list. 

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You don't actually have it's 
because I'm really close to the 

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microphone. 
I don't want to, I don't want to

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hurt the Audiences is I care 
about them? 

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I don't. 
Obviously when I start screaming

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my laughs oh yeah. 
Anyway, you've really thrown me 

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off now because I thrive on on 
routine and now I don't really 

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know. 
Can't say. 

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You can't say you the exact same
thing that you always say. 

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The beginning was get this 
started. 

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Hi everyone. 
Welcome back to another episode 

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of THC repeat. 
My name is Dylan and my name is 

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Hayden, and this is episode 11. 
We are smashing through the 

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double digits with our second 
double digit episode, White 

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House, it feels. 
Yeah, I'm yeah. 

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Smashing through Whole to, to 
hold it. 

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You know what? 
They'll be many more to come. 

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I'm sure before we reach the 
elusive, three digits. 

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That's the big jump isn't 
actually in go from two digits. 

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The three digit. 
Can you imagine iPhone 3 digit 

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24 Direction? 
But now that's not happen during

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will make it to 100. 
That's a lot of episodes 100 

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weeks. 
That's two years, right? 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
Not can't part of your knee. 

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We're going to a story spin. 
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Well as we all know, it's been 
half time and truly truly 

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genuinely Don't think I've 
spoken to you like at all. 

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Know in about in about a week's 
it almost since the last 

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podcast. 
So for the first time in 

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history, I'm going to actually 
be genuinely listening and 

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paying attention to what you're 
saying and this segment of the 

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pile. 
So Hayden will have, you know, I

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know, I know we haven't been 
talking much and I know you kind

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of got used to it as well, 
because what did happen was the 

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last couple of days. 
If you look back through our 

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messenger chat, maybe you're not
even aware of it, but I would 

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have messaged you, right? 
And then you have to apply for 

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hours. 
And by that point I've already 

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moved on. 
I've missed you something else. 

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You don't reply to that either. 
I've got to a third thing and 

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then you might replace that 
third thing. 

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You just completely ignoring the
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spoke to today. 
You've done that like three 

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times in the last few days just 
below. 

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Okay? 
I guess he doesn't want to reply

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to them. 
So essentially what has happened

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is I we haven't fallen into this
trap of not talking to each 

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other. 
I've just been blatantly 

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ignoring you. 
Okay, I'm sorry. 

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I'll have a little flick through
after if anything pops out that 

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I'm one to talk about our reply.
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
That's fair enough. 

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No, it's fine. 
Don't worry about it, man. 

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Sorry, I had a good time anyway 
away from you. 

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So go on. 
Tell me what happened while you 

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were away. 
That's the staff asked me. 

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What? 
My job is to ask me every 10 the

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best man. 
Yeah. 

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All right, all right. 
Go. 

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Listen to last week's episode. 
If you want to hear Dylan, rinse

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me about about trying to feel 
good about being best man. 

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Anyway, so last episode I did 
mention that was gonna stack T. 

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I've been on that stack do now 
it was a really good, really 

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good. 
Fun. 

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We went up to the Lake District 
and we did Gorge walking and 

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Dylan. 
I've actually just sent, you 

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keep having those your phone. 
I've just sent you a video. 

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Wait for you. 
So like, you know, full, well, 

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you need to send me three 
different things. 

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The look at your messages. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
I sent you about 12 messages 

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asking, if you are right. 
You ignore me. 

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But if you look at your phone, 
I've sent you a little video for

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you to watch what I'm talking of
me, jumping off of a Gorge. 

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So in the Lake District, we 
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pretty eventful on the way up. 
The idea was there like big 

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pools of water that you jump in 
from the rocks and one of them 

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was 14 meters high, okay? 
Which is, which is pretty high. 

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I'm not gonna lie, it's like 
three stories. 

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Or it sounds really rubbish. 
When you say things are m in 

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height, I know. 
It does 14 sounds like nothing 

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but 14 meters is huge. 
Yeah, I know, ice exactly what I

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thought when I saw when I read 
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Uh, so it's fairly big jump 
seeing it though. 

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I was like, really, this is a 
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we're jumping off. 
And that's like, that's like 15 

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meters. 
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that's basically 20, if you 
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So, we basically jumped 20 
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If you take into account the 
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is that? 
We were dropping a course. 

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And yeah, I just want you to see
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I mean, it's pretty cool. 
I think we're going to post this

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on our Instagram, because it's 
one of those like optical 

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illusions almost where you jump 
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And I expected to hit the water 
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Yeah. 
Because you can already tell how

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deep it. 
I tell you what, it was that 

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kind of height. 
I hit the water such speed, but 

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when I went under water, my 
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came up like with the water 
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Got in there and I felt like my 
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The top of my forehead. 
Not the my forehead. 

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Ends. 
But no, sorry, I'm sorry, I'm 

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sorry. 
You could barely touch the top 

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of your forehead so far back. 
Yeah, okay. 

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Alright. 
So more, maybe I exaggerated a 

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bit touch, it felt like a touch 
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When I came up from the water, I
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like, hanging out, really 
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It was absolutely fine. 
It did nothing on my eyelid, 

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just flicked up and back down 
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But oh man, it was so cool. 
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this jump was halfway down, 
there was a massive ledge 

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jutting out, which earlier on in
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What like, when we were climbing
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actually climbed onto that ledge
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of water, and then sort of later
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gorge weakest kind of circle 
back around the top and then it 

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was like, oh, you can actually 
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You just got to not hit that 
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jumping from earlier. 
So we had, that's a clear. 

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It not everyone did this one. 
I think it was even the guy just

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like to say that everyone. 
Cleared it. 

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No, no, no. 
Like half the group just didn't 

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even attempt this one. 
It was a bit sketchy. 

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Yeah, but even the guide was 
like yeah, I don't normally take

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groups To this one because it's 
a bit bit Dodge, but you guys 

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seem really Keen. 
So there's that, you know, if 

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you want to give it a go, you 
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That's so cool. 
It was so scary, man but I'm 

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glad I did it like the feeling 
of just that you know, that, you

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know, when you get like a 
thrilling experience, the only 

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last a couple seconds, but it's 
like it's such an unreal, like 

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Adrenaline Rush. 
It's like when when it's 

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lunchtime and the Lunch Ladies, 
come around and say this pear. 

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Dessert left that Rush? 
Yeah. 

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Oh my gosh, and you know, it's a
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You can eat as much as you want.
I had an amazing time. 

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I would definitely recommend if 
Select thrill-seeking, that sort

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of stuff. 
Yeah, so cool. 

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So cool. 
I would say that you're a, you 

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do look really scared of that 
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then you do it. 
So, fair play to you jokes 

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aside, I don't think I'd be able
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No truly, so very good, anything
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Yeah, so obviously did that. 
We also went to The Crystal Maze

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experience in Manchester. 
That was really cool. 

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They've got one of my eyes done 
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Oh yeah, you've done it. 
I forgot. 

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You've done that before. 
It's amazing. 

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Right? 
Yeah, it was really cool. 

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Like it felt like a proper TV 
set like really, really sick. 

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I expected it to be a little bit
like, you know, when you're 

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obviously in TV like Nikki, 
right? 

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But yeah, they put all the 
effort into TV and I thought for

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this thing it'll just be like, 
heart, you know, half there but 

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it was just like full-on amazing
and the host taking us around 

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with so good like really 
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I love that because you know 
that's just what you need that 

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energy. 
He had such a good time such 

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good time. 
I did feel quite good because 

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there was one room. 
The first room I had to do was 

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it's really weird. 
I walked in those is guy dressed

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as the Easter Bunny. 
It's like so I know literally 

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like an actor just just walking 
around in He's supposed to be a 

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bit like bit strange and what a 
job and he dressed as the Easter

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Bunny with this crop top on. 
So his belly was, I was really 

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funny the way you learned. 
And he made me sit down, he was 

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like, right in this room. 
They're going to be three 

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questions if you get two or more
than right? 

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You get the crystal. 
Okay, here we go. 

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So I to sit on this like, 
treloggen, it's really 

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hilariously like Easter Bunny, 
kind of Easter eggs everywhere, 

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you know, setting and the first 
question, I want to see if you 

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get it right, okay? 
But I'm just gonna say what you 

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said, he gave me three options, 
right? 

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He said On Easter Sunday MNS 
cell which of the following type

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of Easter eggs. 
The most a milk, chocolate 

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Easter eggs, be white chocolate,
see dark chocolate, That was the

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question. 
So, my gut instinct is, is milk 

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chocolate, but because he's 
asking them because it's Ms, and

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because they're all their Posh, 
I'll say dark chocolate. 

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Is that your final answer? 
Yeah. 

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Okay. 
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felt really smug just before the
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I like questioning to doing the 
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I like dark chocolate. 
Maybe it's Ms. B. 

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Pasha Pasha. 
Oh, it's closed. 

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I need those. 
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about to put an answer in, I was
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good Easter Sunday. 
At the shops are open. 

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It's a trick question. 
So I got that one, right? 

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And I was like yes because then 
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not trust the question. 
Yeah, I was wrong in my process.

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this one was because you need to
write. 

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have to get the next to right 
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just straightforward a true or 
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There was no trickery. 
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expecting tricks. 
I wouldn't just give him a 

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straight answer. 
He's getting really like just to

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say is true or false. 
So next time give you all of 

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match. 
These interesting people at home

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can have a garden as well. 
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false question. 
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women by more Easter eggs than 
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Absolutely true. 
What's your reasoning? 

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Because I know for a fact in my 
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one who would always go out and 
buy them. 

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Like it in a family that sense 

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to be fair though I go and buy 
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much as I see you, every both 
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reasoning and weeks. 
We sort of settled on true 

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because we did feel like we just
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tires. 
We were like, probably more like

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The Stereotype though. 
It's like an experience isn't 

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it? 
Might want my mum. 

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So my personal experience is my 
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know that's a. 
Yeah, sure. 

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We've all had that experience as
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Other one's going out of buying 
our stuff. 

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It was false. 
We said, true is false, 

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apparently meant. 
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Men by more Easter eggs and 
women and I was like, it does 

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make sense because I probably in
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bought for other people. 
So, I've all them. 

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I don't think that that 
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that's got that one wrong. 
And then there's one more 

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question. 
So we're one up one down now, 

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how to get this one, right? 
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give again, going to give you 
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it. 
It was A percentage of the 

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population wise which country 
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the UK or the USA. 
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So I don't know this trying to 
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think this way more Mary. 
Yeah, that's what I thought. 

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Yeah. 
So I did the exact exact same 

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logic. 
I'd had no idea and I was like, 

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clearly, the Trap is USA because
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and I went UK and UK was right? 
They, we got that, we got the 

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crystal for that one. 
Yeah, we had a great time. 

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It customizes was epic. 
I know you've done it. 

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I thoroughly enjoyed it as well.
If anyone else is thinking about

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doing it, they've got one in 
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Manchester, right? 
So I've banged on about my 

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exhilarating. 
Exciting super epic half-term 

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where I've been doing so many 
cool, crazy things. 

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What have you been up to Dylan? 
Absolutely nothing. 

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Absolute now I'm checking. 
Now we had like I said last week

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our niece came from America. 
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every waking minute with her, 
which is not a bad thing. 

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It's absolutely brilliant. 
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something about young children 
when they're in your family. 

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It's just so enjoyable, isn't 
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Just playing with it? 
You turn into a different 

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person. 
I had my nails done this week, I

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had extensions put in my hair. 
If, if a really cute 

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two-and-a-half-year-old comes up
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come play and you you say, yes. 
It's as simple as that. 

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You don't, you don't say no and 
whatever they want to play, you 

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get their huge inflatable 
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last week. 
Went down a storm there. 

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Was none of this like oh a bit 
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Play with cardboard box 
rabbit's? 

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No, no, no, no, pony came 
everywhere with us. 

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Yeah. 
And every, every half an hour, 

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you want to ride the pony. 
Oh, I don't know. 

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You ride the pony. 
So do you want to ride the pony?

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Know you ride the pony science 
that they're on a pretending to 

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ride the pony, but she was very,
very happy. 

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And then she would carry on 
playing something else there, I 

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stepped off the pony. 
She'd she'd immediately realized

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what, no, get on the pony. 
Okay, I'm just used to have the 

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balloons. 
Yeah, they're still there, 

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they're still being very still 
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them. 
I can't run forever. 

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Show them now, we, well, I have 
to go, there's, there's this 

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other moment where we were 
watching the football and it was

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Arsenal vs, Liverpool and there 
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So there's a penalty about to be
taken. 

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And so then she decides, that's 
the moment to go and grab the 

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pony and start running up to us 
and throwing and I face we 

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missed the belly. 
But now it was really, it's been

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really nice because I've managed
to just avoid work as well, 

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which is, you know, avoiding 
work is really nice whilst 

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you're doing yet but I can see 
myself in the next three or four

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days. 
When I look at my to do this, to

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be like. 
I wish maybe I'd done some of 

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this earlier but equally this 
you just got to turn off. 

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Sometimes it's actually it's 
really important. 

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And in this two-week halftime 
the reason why two-week half 

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times are so good is because you
really can just block out a huge

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Bitcoin. 
You. 

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And actually just say, okay, 
look two or three days of work, 

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This set this side or that side,
I did a little bit of work at 

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the start. 
I've got a little bit more work 

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to do at the end, but that's 
what it's for and I just don't 

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want to fall into that trap of 
feeling a bit guilty of, or have

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I done enough work on my time 
off as like, what a statement, 

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what a statement to say, an 
efficient ever would say that 

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have I done enough work on my 
time off site. 

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No, I think it will get the we 
should do a poll about that 

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because I would put if you put a
poll out there that was like do 

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you feel guilty if you don't do 
a set amount of work, I would be

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like yep because I still get 
that feeling every time I've 

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done loads of work this 
afternoon and knowingly, I've 

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just kind of drip Loads of 
things are like, and I'm just 

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like, why what am I doing? 
Why have I done this? 

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Then the rest of it, which I'm 
in a different position to you 

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now, because I've not got much 
left. 

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I'll probably just spend like 
half a day or the weekend, maybe

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just finishing up B, but yeah, 
it is annoying and I did feel 

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guilty. 
I was like, well I better do 

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something. 
I've not done anything for a 

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day, so I better do something. 
Well, the good thing is, we've 

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all rested with recuperated. 
We've got back bit of our energy

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because I know we are flagging 
at the end of last time, only 

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big time and I'm actually, I'm 
ready to hit the ground running 

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this time and I do feel good 
about it. 

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So we're going to go and move 
on. 

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On now to our next section 
because I've got a little 

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surprise for you. 
So hater there is a surprise 

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here. 
This is a first on the podcast 

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because yeah, I have dropped off
a box for you, you've got the 

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mystery box. 
Yep, I've got it here. 

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I want you to grab the mystery 
box. 

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Pick it up. 
You Hayden's got no idea what's 

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in this? 
Yeah, I've got still be a couple

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of our listeners listening right
now who know exactly what's 

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coming up and there were lots of
them who don't. 

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So I don't even know what I've 
got here. 

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Gone can open it or not. 
Yeah, It's a bit but don't don't

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actually open it properly yet. 
So under this the box I'm gonna 

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give you the context. 
Is it feel light or heavy? 

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What you think it might be? 
Really light to the point where 

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I'm like is it is it's just a 
joke is nothing. 

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It is or thing, I don't know. 
I feel like I should talk on, 

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it's probably something raised 
in the podcast. 

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I cannot think about all. 
This is, you can you can you 

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have any idea at all? 
What it might be because I 

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because I have specifically told
Hayden that we have to open this

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on the podcast. 
So he's right it's to do the 

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podcast, you know what, my 
memory is like Dylan. 

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I can all see it. 
And I will, of course I 

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genuinely Don't know what this 
Joy if you see it, it's never 

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been mentioned before to you. 
It's never been mentioned to 

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you, but it's to do with the 
podcast, okay? 

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I think this is the moment I 
want you to you, people who are 

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just listed, by the way, I'm 
sorry that this is going to be 

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quite a visual thing, but we'll 
explain what's going on after 

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they run the wheels, you'll see 
where for ways to make a rules. 

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Open up, I'm opening now some 
look there paper. 

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Oh yeah. 
You know, when either Mike, by 

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the way, looks like a t-shirt or
something. 

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Oh no way it says under aft. 
Oh my God you got this 

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custom-made. 
I didn't even put it in for 

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order. 
I got delivered to my house and 

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asking I've got one as well. 
Look I've got one who that is 

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amazing. 
Whoever's done that. 

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You are a legend. 
It literally says on it. 

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It's like a dictionary 
adjectives. 

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Maybe it means like really 
skinny so funny. 

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Oh man, I am Absolutely, love 
that we've got. 

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We've got one each. 
So now we've got some uniform 

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for our podcast but the story is
my parents dropped off some 

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Easter eggs for us. 
Yeah, and in there out shed at 

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the back. 
They have these, this printing 

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study to printing for a various 
like motorcycle groups and stuff

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that there are that they're all 
involved in and, and yeah. 

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So they've made this for us. 
They dropped off to me. 

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I'd know request, I didn't ask 
for it. 

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They were just like, oh, it's we
just wanted to give you this and

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just surprised me with this 
thing that is 10/10. 

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I'm wearing. 
Next time we did a podcast and 

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Forever After Even when we get 
to episode 100, I'm still gonna 

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be wearing that t-shirt. 
Yes, absolutely. 

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So that's a. 
So we got one of them each. 

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So in the next row, lot of rails
have a uniform. 

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Oh, that's so good. 
So, you know, when people are 

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listening back to this episode, 
when they are on episode 100, 

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they'll probably be in the merch
store by then, so you can pick 

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up right underneath teacher. 
Well, this, this is an excuse 

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announcement, Hayden. 
We've got a merch store now, we 

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don't know, know, whether that's
the too much. 

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We don't, we don't the way too 
much effort for the For all the 

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four people that listen, Richie 
soon. 

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A canned Sandy. 
Sandy, our baby. 

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Listen, again, Sandy, we haven't
talked to him in a while. 

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How's your eyes and get hop fan?
I've seen it. 

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I've seen it as a big stack. 
Get on with it. 

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Crack on, stop laughing these 
anyway. 

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Yeah. 
Big South. 

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My parents literally dropped us 
off and under the top. 

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Unbelievable. 
Yeah, this is where podcast 

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doesn't adjust this. 
Make sure you tune in to our 

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rails. 
Check us out on Instagram if you

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haven't already teach. 
Sleep, repeat podcast isn't a 

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little pod. 
Teach sleep, repeat podcast. 

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Okay, I was confused and our 
email is teach sleep. 

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Repeat pod if you want to send 
us in any funny stories or just 

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email.com at gmail.com. 
Yeah. 

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And just, you know, just say 
hello. 

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Tell us what you think of the 
podcast by. 

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Let's get into this. 
We've been, we've been talking 

450
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for a long time now. 
So I'm going to we're going to 

451
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play the jingle again and we're 
going to get into our discussion

452
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which we actually put on our 
Instagram. 

453
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So the people decide Hayden. 
What we talk about let's get 

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going. 
Okay, so we put a pull-out on 

455
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Instagram. 
That's the place to be guys 

456
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because we like to do Paul's, we
like to get your opinions. 

457
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We like to get your stories and 
one of the most recent ones we 

458
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did was just to give you a 
choice to talk. 

459
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We talked about in the pot 
because we are lots of ideas but

460
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sometimes we just don't know 
which one to go for and this 

461
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week, you have voted for us to 
talk about homework. 

462
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So we're going to get into a bit
of a debate here. 

463
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Well, more of a discussion I 
suppose because actually between

464
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Ada and I we haven't really 
spoken about this much together 

465
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and explore each other's ideas. 
So this would be really 

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arresting for us and hopefully 
you guys can get in touch and 

467
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let us know exactly what you 
think about the idea of 

468
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homework, especially in primary 
school. 

469
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So, we know homeworks, a huge 
thing as children get older as 

470
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they become more, independent 
learners, but I'm just going to 

471
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ask you straight out Paden. 
Do you think primary school 

472
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should set homework? 
Two children. 

473
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Oh, what a loaded question? 
I was even an even then I was 

474
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just thinking about this whole 
situation and what's the best 

475
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way to explain it like my core? 
Teacher honestly says no like 

476
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overall. 
It's like an overall. 

477
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No, but it's not just a simple 
as like a blanket. 

478
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No. 
Because I think there are plenty

479
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of Children and Families who 
greatly appreciate homework, and

480
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it goes a long way for that. 
Child, that child will actually 

481
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enjoy doing the homework because
they really, really want to 

482
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develop, you know, certain 
knowledge or whatever. 

483
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But I also think the majority of
children It's not actually it's 

484
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not a positive experience at 
all. 

485
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I think the cons outweigh the 
pros for most children. 

486
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That's kind of my instant gut 
feeling. 

487
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Maybe I can go into more detail 
in a minute. 

488
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I don't know what wash wash your
thoughts on it. 

489
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I'm actually quite happy because
we certainly aren't as closely 

490
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aligned as we normally are on 
this topic. 

491
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Okay. 
Okay. 

492
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Because again, there's nuances 
and this is the problem with 

493
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polarized debate. 
Always in everything. 

494
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Isn't it where you have to pick 
a side? 

495
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And if I had to pick a side, I 
would say that we should set 

496
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homework, right? 
Okay. 

497
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Because I did ask it in a 
specific way as well which might

498
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draw out more of a conversation 
in terms of should schools set 

499
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homework. 
I think it's a very different 

500
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conversation to should schools 
punish children for not doing 

501
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homework. 
A should schools have certain 

502
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expectations for homework, etc, 
etc. 

503
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I think scores we absolutely 
need to set homework. 

504
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The Sip, the simple reason is 
there are a lot of things that 

505
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we, as teachers can deliver in 
an hour-long lesson. 

506
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In a discrete lesson. 
Where, for example, in maths, we

507
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might teach them over a couple 
of days, how to do short 

508
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multiplication, how to find a 
fraction of that amount right. 

509
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For example, or in history, we 
might we might teach them. 

510
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Look at some sources primary 
sources, secondary sources about

511
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certain invasions of Britain, 
Etc. 

512
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I think we can teach them that 
really well, and to seek the in 

513
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an hour or an hour and a half. 
I think the biggest problem that

514
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we have with other types of 
learning as we can't do that. 

515
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For example, things that come to
my head straight away, Of times 

516
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tables. 
We can't just teach times 

517
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tables, we can't teach children 
how to memorize their times 

518
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tables. 
In an hour-long lesson, we can 

519
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do times table lessons, where we
practice and teach techniques. 

520
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But you have to practice them, 
constantly has to be like a drip

521
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fed thing and we don't have that
ability as teachers to do that 

522
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constantly. 
And also reading, you know, 

523
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we're teaching lessons actually,
the act of just reading out loud

524
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with 32 children in our class, 
that's impossible for us to 

525
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listen to the children. 
Read as much as is required, so 

526
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there has to be a level of 
expectation. 

527
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And or maybe the word is 
recommendation and this is where

528
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it gets tricky because there'll 
be lots of people say no, no, 

529
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this should be an expectation, 
you absolutely have to do this 

530
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in the same way that you 
absolutely have to come to 

531
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school and you absolutely have 
to have the curriculum talk to 

532
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you. 
We say that. 

533
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And some people extrapolate that
to homework and say no no, you 

534
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have to do this, you have to 
read this, you have to do that. 

535
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There's this is where I kind of 
sway to the other side because 

536
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I'm not comfortable, always as a
professional telling people what

537
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they have to do at home and so 
certain children might have 

538
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certain barriers or it might be 
a real slog for some parents to 

539
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get some children to do certain 
things, for whatever reason, but

540
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I think we could, we can set 
really clear expectations and 

541
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really clear reasons why 
something should happen and 

542
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facilitate that and give give 
options for that to happen. 

543
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For example, at home times table
rock stars get a subscription 

544
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for the children. 
Have a huge library with access 

545
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to lots of different books that 
are at the appropriate level. 

546
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I think as schools we need to 
facilitate that but there is 

547
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this just Middle Ground. 
Break ground where there's 

548
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actually a lot of disagreement 
in education, isn't there? 

549
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Yeah, I think until you said 
reading and times tables, I 

550
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think I was kind of 
streamlining, my idea of 

551
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homework to the stuff beyond 
that, like extra, like 

552
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worksheets or like workbooks, 
and things that sometimes 

553
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schools will set. 
Because now you said that I'm 

554
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sort of, I'm not necessarily 
changing my opinion, but I'm 

555
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just adding more to it like an 
F. 

556
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Another layer, of thought, layer
of thought because, yeah, 

557
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reading I'm sort of like, 
actually, I do expect that to be

558
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done. 
I genuinely do Do expect reading

559
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to be done because the 
correlation of the studies show 

560
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that the correlation between 
reading and general academic 

561
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achievement is undeniable like 
undeniable. 

562
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It's so so well correlated. 
So it's like yeah, of course you

563
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need to read with your child as 
much as possible and times. 

564
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Tables is again, you're right, 
you know, it would be a really 

565
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big waste of time if we spent 
all that time at school doing 

566
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it. 
So yeah, you kind of do need to 

567
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practice them at home because 
they have sort of a fundamental 

568
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foundation for a lot of areas of
mass. 

569
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Yeah, you do need to learn them 
but I think that's where it 

570
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stops me but perhaps and maybe 
I'm just of in the middle 

571
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because after that I just don't 
think we need to set any more 

572
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homework. 
I don't think we should. 

573
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I'm sort of act. 
I actively encourage not setting

574
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any more homework than the those
to sort of really essential 

575
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foundations. 
And I think Mike the core 

576
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reasoning for that is because I 
think schools, long enough 

577
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already, I think there is a, 
there should be a limit to how 

578
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much time children spend of 
their life learning and doing, 

579
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you know, education and and I 
feel like we're already at that 

580
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limit, you know, there's a, we 
spent the children spend so much

581
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of their life in education, they
need down time. 

582
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They need to go and have fun 
explore the world to go and do 

583
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whatever they like, doing their 
hobbies and things like that. 

584
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I think that's so important. 
So, the big, big Convoy homework

585
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for me, you know, homework, that
was beyond those kind of the 

586
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reading and the times tables is 
it takes away from that time and

587
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the majority of children are 
certainly from my experience, do

588
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not want to do that. 
They resent it, they end up then

589
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disliking School, Because oh 
it's that. 

590
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It's that annoying place that 
makes me stop playing with my 

591
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friends outside or going on my 
Xbox or do whatever they want to

592
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do in their free time. 
I hate school now because they 

593
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make me do this homework and 
then when I don't do it, I'll 

594
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get in trouble. 
Which I like you said, open up a

595
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hole, opens up a whole nother 
conversation of should children 

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be punished or in trouble, to 
any capacity for not completing 

597
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homework. 
Let's think of like a 

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seven-year-old. 
For example, wash wash your 

599
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feet. 
I can ask you a question. 

600
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Now, you're there, say you're in
year 3 classroom, right? 

601
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You got a seven-year-old and you
set them. 

602
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Let's start it. 
Start here. 

603
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Let's start with reading and 
times tables so you haven't set 

604
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them anything additional. 
You've asked them to read three 

605
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times a week. 
Let's say, Ten minutes of time, 

606
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minimum and you've asked them to
spend 10 minutes. 

607
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Practicing their times tables 
and they come into school next 

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week, they haven't done it. 
What do you think you do? 

609
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And also, what do you think? 
The kind of General consensus is

610
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what how we should approach that
situation, as educational staff.

611
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So, the first, the first 
question I always ask myself, is

612
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why we setting homework. 
That's the first question when 

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I'm trying to reason what to do,
right? 

614
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And in this situation, we are 
setting kind of like a minimum 

615
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expectation, right? 
Of. 

616
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I don't think there's a single 
school who doesn't expect 

617
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children to read it home and 
then the times tables. 

618
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So with the context of it's the 
minimum expectation. 

619
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Why are we why we setting this? 
It's for their academic 

620
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achievement. 
Okay, that's the reason why? 

621
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Because we know it's proven that
if they practice these things, 

622
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they will have a boost 
academically, which is our goal 

623
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was teachers, one of our main 
goals. 

624
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So, my opinion and that is you 
the end goal has to be to find 

625
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time for the children to do 
those things. 

626
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,000
Okay, I did not want to 
characterize it as punishment. 

627
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That's what I would have wild 
really avoid. 

628
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Because truthfully, how much 
control did that seven-year-old?

629
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Have in doing their homework or 
not at home? 

630
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,800
I don't know. 
And we'll never truly know. 

631
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:39,500
Yeah. 
Okay. 

632
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We don't know whether it was 
because the parents said, oh, 

633
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you don't have to do that. 
Don't worry about it or maybe 

634
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,100
the parents have battled 
massively to try and get them to

635
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,300
do it. 
And it was a huge thing and it 

636
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ruined family weekend because 
the child just did want to do 

637
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it. 
I don't know. 

638
00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:53,800
And honestly that's irrelevant 
to me. 

639
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Because, actually, I want them 
to do 30 minutes of reading the 

640
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week minimum and I want them to 
do 10 minutes or times 

641
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,300
hairdresser practice all week 
minimum. 

642
00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:05,400
So my thought there is cool. 
I'm going to facilitate that 

643
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time somewhere in the school 
day. 

644
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Now this is where the gray area 
comes in because there's no time

645
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in the school day. 
So when do you do that? 

646
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Do you do 10 minutes at lunch 
time when they can be out, 

647
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:15,900
plague playing on the 
playground? 

648
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,000
Do you determine? 
It's an assembly time when they 

649
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when you actually might want to 
be doing something else and 

650
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another intervention group that 
you've got the or do you do in 

651
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the morning before? 
In, you know, in that free time 

652
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maybe where they come in and do 
some reading, actually, you're 

653
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going to go and listen to them 
actively read at that point 

654
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because we do have reading 
built-in at school, don't we? 

655
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,900
Yeah. 
But the overall thing I'll say 

656
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for that is I think you have to 
go back to why you're setting 

657
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homework. 
I don't think we're the seven, 

658
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eight, nine year old or Primary 
School in general. 

659
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,600
We're not setting homework to 
teach responsibility as much 

660
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yet. 
We're setting these foundations 

661
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because they're critical to 
their education. 

662
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So I think you have to find the 
time to fill that in. 

663
00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:54,900
I wanted to come on a point that
you just said, A minute ago 

664
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because I'm interested to see if
you would stick with what you 

665
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said, or maybe re-define what 
you said. 

666
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Because it was really 
interesting to me about how 

667
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you're saying we're kind of 
maxed out on the child's 

668
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education. 
Like, in terms of the amount of 

669
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time they spend in school and 
it's taken away from their other

670
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stuff. 
But I would just add to that. 

671
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Maybe like extrapolate, see what
you think is actually, we're not

672
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because children are always 
learning, they're always been 

673
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educated, right? 
If they're on a nature walk, for

674
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example, on a Afternoon. 
Yeah, and the mum goes, oh my 

675
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:28,800
goodness. 
Homeworks due tomorrow. 

676
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,200
We haven't done that time. 
Stable practice, that we said we

677
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,000
do. 
Yeah, it is cutting short that 

678
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,600
nature walk which the child 
might love. 

679
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,500
Like you said, you loved going 
outside last week doing some 

680
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:41,000
drawings learning about birds. 
The different different fauna 

681
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,800
that they can see. 
And having that kind of 

682
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,600
enrichment, is still education. 
I don't think there is a limit 

683
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,100
for Education. 
Yeah, and I'm sure that's what 

684
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:50,100
you meant, but you can clarify 
in a second but there's no limit

685
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:52,200
on education. 
But I think maybe what we can 

686
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,800
clarify is a bit that, you know,
I don't think we need to intrude

687
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,400
so much on that home life, and 
that home experience. 

688
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,900
And they've got dance class that
evening or they've got this. 

689
00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:04,000
And if it comes to the detriment
of that, then it starts becoming

690
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,100
a problem. 
I think I. 

691
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:07,500
Yeah, for us to redefine it. 
I'm talking about prescribed, 

692
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:12,000
learning management, education, 
mandatory academic studies. 

693
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,600
You know, I mean, maths English 
topic. 

694
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,300
Those things I think, you know, 
the children to have a choice. 

695
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:20,100
They that if they enjoy or not a
nature walk they're probably you

696
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:22,500
know they're going to nature 
walk and learning, they probably

697
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:23,900
enjoying it and it's passive 
learning. 

698
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:25,400
Yeah, sitting down doing the 
times. 

699
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,100
Tables is not passive learning, 
it's active prescribed work to 

700
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:30,600
do is I guess. 
Yeah that's that's probably 

701
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,700
quite important to redefine that
I think what what links into 

702
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:36,400
that really nicely and maybe we 
could talk about this is 

703
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:40,200
actually also, is there a 
problem with the school 

704
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,500
celebrating and giving options 
for further homework given the 

705
00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:45,600
choice? 
And I don't think there is and I

706
00:30:45,608 --> 00:30:47,700
think about those projects we 
talked about that, we did it. 

707
00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:49,800
When we were primary school 
children, we talked about last 

708
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,700
time in our Primary School 
memories that we loved and 

709
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:56,100
there's certain for Zamp alive. 
I know in every school I've 

710
00:30:56,100 --> 00:31:00,000
worked in there's always been 
termly or monthly or projects 

711
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,700
that the child has freedom to 
do. 

712
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,900
There's no expectation to do it.
They can take it as far as they 

713
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:07,400
want, but they bring it in at 
the end and then they show it to

714
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,400
the class. 
And I think that's fantastic as 

715
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,300
well because I think it's what 
we can do. 

716
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:15,900
As a school is facilitate and 
advise on minimum expectations 

717
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:19,200
for an academic point of view. 
But also why not celebrate 

718
00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:21,700
someone going above and beyond 
in a different aspect? 

719
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,500
Yeah, I guess you just have to 
be really careful not to Any 

720
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:27,900
kind of like passive aggression 
or petrol, like, making children

721
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,600
that haven't done that thing 
actually feel like bad like 

722
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,200
worse, you know? 
I mean, it has to stick as a 

723
00:31:34,208 --> 00:31:37,100
positive reinforcement thing. 
I've like, wow, these children 

724
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:38,600
doing great and you could get 
there as well. 

725
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,700
And that would be awesome as 
well. 

726
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,600
Rather than like these children 
doing great look. 

727
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,500
How terrible you are with 
showing you this because you're 

728
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:45,000
so bad and you need to be like 
this. 

729
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:47,100
It's not good enough but I think
there's those you have to be 

730
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,000
really careful. 
I think with that sort of system

731
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,900
not to do that as you just a 
personal question like with in 

732
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:56,600
your Teaching career. 
Have you ever got cross at 

733
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:02,400
someone for not doing the 
homework, only only when we've 

734
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,800
had a very specific conversation
and they promised me that they 

735
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,200
do something, right, right. 
And they're not even, you know, 

736
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,300
not even cross honest. 
Truly as a teacher and whether, 

737
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:16,500
you know, whether you have to 
separate yourself. 

738
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:19,800
And just think my goal for you 
is that you are doing this 

739
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,200
homework, because I want you to 
progress the times tables are 

740
00:32:23,208 --> 00:32:25,700
tailored to exactly. 
Need the readings, exactly your 

741
00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:27,100
level. 
And I know if you do this, that 

742
00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:29,900
you'll progress. 
So when you say Cross or maybe 

743
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:32,300
I'll get frustrated and think, 
oh, if you just, if you just 

744
00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:35,300
would do this more often, I 
think it would help you. 

745
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,500
Like, you know, I want to help 
you like, let's just, let's do 

746
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,100
this. 
I think the only time I've ever 

747
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,500
and, of course, you'll say to 
the children, how much really 

748
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:45,000
important. 
And I'd really like you to do 

749
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,700
this and the fact you haven't 
done this, it does frustrate me 

750
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:51,500
because you said to me last week
that you would definitely do it 

751
00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:54,700
this week and I believed you and
and then you haven't done it. 

752
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:57,500
And I'm just wondering why 
maybe, and then you can kind of 

753
00:32:57,508 --> 00:33:00,200
go from there and I think that's
completely legitimate because 

754
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,700
that's almost a different level 
of, you know, giving someone 

755
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:04,900
your word and just teaching them
that that's quite important 

756
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:09,400
things to try and uphold. 
But in terms of, when you look 

757
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,800
at Homework not being done and 
you what you normally see as a 

758
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,900
teacher is patterns, you see 
patterns of homework, not being 

759
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:17,800
done. 
It's not as if every week 

760
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,800
there's three different people 
who haven't done the homework. 

761
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,700
Yeah, you're always going to get
children who are in that 

762
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:24,000
routine, and always did our 
homework because they love it. 

763
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,800
Maybe a naked and take 
themselves off and do it 

764
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,500
themselves. 
You're always going to get the 

765
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:31,300
other children who may be put up
a battle or don't have as much 

766
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:34,600
support in terms of, you know, a
parental figure saying we have 

767
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,200
to do this and forcing it. 
It, you see a pattern. 

768
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,900
So actually, what's the point of
getting angry at children who 

769
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:42,300
are in that pattern? 
It's been two and a half years. 

770
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:44,400
They're not going to suddenly 
start if you have a go at them. 

771
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,300
Yeah, so yeah, it's all about 
what you trying to get out of it

772
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,200
and trying to get the children 
to do this thing because it 

773
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,400
makes progress and it helps them
academically, that's the end of 

774
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,900
it. 
So, what I'm going to do is a 

775
00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:58,700
teacher is thankful for everyone
who does it home and big them up

776
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:01,200
and say Well done. 
But then facilitate as much as 

777
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,400
possible, the children who 
aren't doing it a chance to do 

778
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,600
it because I don't want them to 
do homework. 

779
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,900
So I can shout a moment them. 
I want them to do homework so 

780
00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:09,100
that they make progress 
progress. 

781
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:09,900
Yeah. 
That's absolutely right. 

782
00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:13,199
I think there's a kind of maybe 
I subliminally. 

783
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:14,900
Think this by. 
I'm trying to bring it to the 

784
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:18,100
Forefront of my mind right now 
but I think in any given 

785
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:20,300
situation like you said there's 
so many different situations in 

786
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:22,100
which child may or may not have 
done homework, right? 

787
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:24,800
So many different situations 
very unique to each Each person 

788
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,800
if there is going to be a net 
loss in their enjoyment for 

789
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,100
educational school, in what 
you're about to do or say to 

790
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:35,600
them, don't do it. 
I think that's the generally, 

791
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,400
how I approach it, you know, 
their Arch. 

792
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,600
I will purchase so differently. 
If I, you know, I've had a few 

793
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,000
grounding experiences over the 
years, for example, I can think 

794
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,699
of one. 
It's happened a few times, it's 

795
00:34:44,699 --> 00:34:47,100
probably something people can 
relate to because, you know, 

796
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:49,800
over the years it's just a bit 
of a stereotype that sometimes 

797
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,400
children fall into. 
So I've taught the classic 

798
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:57,800
Child, who is actually quite 
quite bright quite intelligent 

799
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,700
and will, you know, Ace tests 
and things like that. 

800
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,600
But never ever, ever has I read 
a record signed but I know they 

801
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,500
read Because when it comes quite
reading time that, you know, 

802
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:10,600
beer in the book, every now and 
then I'll Monitor and be like, 

803
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,300
okay, they're on a different 
book. 

804
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:13,300
Now there are different, but 
again, so they clearly reading 

805
00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:15,100
but they never get their reading
records. 

806
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:17,400
Signed a reading records are 
really classic thing in primary 

807
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,900
schools, like most schools do 
use some sort of reading record,

808
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:24,500
whether it's paper or digital 
and, you know, the guy Of pot. 

809
00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:26,600
The policy of the school will 
be, all you need to read a 

810
00:35:26,607 --> 00:35:28,200
record sign. 
A set amount of time to prove 

811
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,000
that you've done the minimum 
amount of homework. 

812
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,300
And if you don't there might be 
some sort of punishment or like 

813
00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:34,700
you said, there might be a more 
positive reinforcement kind of 

814
00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:38,200
just facilitating of time to do 
it, but I just remember just one

815
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,800
time, you know, I was just going
down that sort of robot root of.

816
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,600
This is the rules. 
You must do the rules and and 

817
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,600
ideas or banded, two children 
together and it wasn't until I 

818
00:35:47,607 --> 00:35:50,200
put them together. 
Look that situations whereas 

819
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,700
realize they're completely 
completely separate. 

820
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,800
Neither of them, had their 
reading record, Signed one of 

821
00:35:54,808 --> 00:35:56,700
them reads all the time, their 
parent, just never signs. 

822
00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:59,200
It just never signs it. 
And I was like, you know what, 

823
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,300
that is not your fault. 
How is that the fault of the 

824
00:36:01,308 --> 00:36:03,800
child? 
They're reading their book that,

825
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,500
you know, whatever. 
I'm not going to delve into 

826
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:08,100
their home life. 
I was just happy and I left them

827
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:10,000
alone for the rest of the day. 
I like hope you're reading, 

828
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,200
you're making progress at 
school, not going to bother you 

829
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,800
and then there's the other child
who, you know, who might lie 

830
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:16,800
every single week. 
I couldn't read this week's. 

831
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,800
I had a football match on. 
It's like really. 

832
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,300
It's 10 minutes left and I 
couldn't do that on my parents 

833
00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:23,500
said that I wasn't allowed to 
say, well no, you're just making

834
00:36:23,500 --> 00:36:25,300
it up by now. 
As I spoke to parent last week 

835
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:27,800
and they said, you know, you had
a big party and he wouldn't do 

836
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,300
it. 
So you got those two completely 

837
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:32,400
different children and it really
grounded me because it made me 

838
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,600
not just jump into, this is 
rules. 

839
00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:37,300
You have broken the rules. 
Now you're in trouble, that 

840
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:39,000
wouldn't have been fair. 
I don't think for the first 

841
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,500
child know it and and it goes 
back to what we said. 

842
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:43,600
Right. 
Why do we set homework? 

843
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,600
I think if you ask yourself that
question every single time 

844
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,800
you're about to deal with 
something like this, I think it 

845
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,600
will help you in what you then 
do as a reaction because the 

846
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,900
reason we set homework is so 
that children Get this extra 

847
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:57,800
basic help of something which is
better off being drip fed over 

848
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,400
time. 
Yeah. 

849
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,400
Even even down to something like
there are certain objectives in 

850
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,000
the curriculum which I think are
suited to be being taught at 

851
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,500
home, right? 
Not just the basics you know, 

852
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:10,200
times tables and reading which 
are so obvious things like 

853
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,000
telling the time. 
Yeah, I think that telling the 

854
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,300
time on an analog clock is 
something which has way more 

855
00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:21,100
power in being taught constantly
constantly constantly through 

856
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:22,600
today. 
Are what time is it? 

857
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:25,200
You know, if you're doing Aussie
kid, a quarter past. 

858
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,000
What's the time now? 
Oh, it's quarter past, what do 

859
00:37:27,008 --> 00:37:29,300
you think it might be? 
If it's there, you know, that 

860
00:37:29,300 --> 00:37:33,400
kind of, that kind of learning 
it fits the drip feed method, 

861
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,400
the constant method times table.
Certainly does reading certainly

862
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,600
does and they'll be some things 
on the curriculum where I'm 

863
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,300
stood, there delivering an 
hour-long lesson. 

864
00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:42,700
There's no way you can teach 
your child, how to read a clock 

865
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:44,200
in one-hour. 
It's absolutely impossible 

866
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,600
because what we'll see as well 
is you no matter what class you 

867
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,000
have, there will be the biggest 
range of ability ever when you 

868
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,100
come to teach that lesson 
because some children might have

869
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:55,200
been bought at watch from There 
were five years old and just 

870
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,700
happen to have picked up some 
children, only ever go in their 

871
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:00,300
iPad and they say digital clock.
Never got no idea what the hands

872
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:01,700
mean because it's just not been 
taught. 

873
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:05,600
That's, that is an example there
of, actually, what do we want 

874
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,600
for the children, we want them 
to progress, academically and 

875
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,000
learn things. 
What's the best way of that 

876
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,800
happening? 
While 4-times tables are 

877
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,500
reading? 
It certainly is doing at home 

878
00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:18,400
constantly as much as possible. 
There's a discussion to have 

879
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,400
like there's other things that 
are more beneficial to be taught

880
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,200
at home. 
Yeah, another one I can think of

881
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,300
is measurement in context. 
So things like money, but also 

882
00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:29,600
things like just distances and 
wait and things. 

883
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,500
I feel like they lend themselves
so much to just real life 

884
00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:35,100
examples, rather than reading 
the map of a book or reading a 

885
00:38:35,107 --> 00:38:37,300
definition of how long, how long
a kilometer is. 

886
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:39,300
It's like, yeah. 
What does that mean? 

887
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:41,300
Sure, can't cook can't conceive 
that. 

888
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:45,100
But if you go on a drive or a 
walk, you can show them your 

889
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:46,000
car. 
You know. 

890
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,500
It tips over even on the mile. 
Yeah. 

891
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:51,600
But oh look, this is five miles.
We've driven five miles. 

892
00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:52,900
That's very different to 
yesterday. 

893
00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:53,900
Isn't it? 
Where we drove one? 

894
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,600
While and they can kind of start
building up those things. 

895
00:38:56,700 --> 00:38:58,800
I think it's because it's really
interesting because we've talked

896
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,200
about it, haven't we? 
And obviously, in our position 

897
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,700
as leading maths in a school, 
we've talked about this before, 

898
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:07,100
and we just thought, okay, well,
how can we address this with our

899
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:09,200
view of homework, which is 
obviously, I'm sure you picked 

900
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,100
up of almost skepticism of 
trying to push it too far. 

901
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,100
We don't want to do that. 
But actually, you know, how can 

902
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:19,900
we as school lead like as as 
academic as teachers. 

903
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:23,500
Sorry, how can we facilitate it?
I think that's really key for me

904
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:26,400
personally. 
But, you know, facilitating this

905
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,800
learning should someone want to 
take out with them at home and, 

906
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,900
you know, giving giving options 
for little projects giving 

907
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:35,800
options. 
For, you know, down that except 

908
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,600
for measurement is perfect for 
baking. 

909
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:40,500
Just sending a letter home, you 
know and saying, oh, why don't 

910
00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:43,200
you try this out this time? 
If you want to give them a cheap

911
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,400
option, given an option that 
might cost a bit more money, but

912
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,800
maybe the parents want to try 
that out. 

913
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:53,400
And just being inclusive giving 
expert advice, but not piling 

914
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,300
the pressure. 
Iran. 

915
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:56,100
Yeah, because I just think it's 
counterproductive. 

916
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:57,700
Yeah, I agree. 
I think sending out five 

917
00:39:57,700 --> 00:40:00,500
worksheets across the term that 
raw like word problems. 

918
00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:04,800
With measurements in them is 
objectively worse than sending 

919
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,400
out a little project and being 
like, hey, go, I'll optional 

920
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,800
project to do at home. 
Here's that. 

921
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,000
Here's an ingredients list here.
So, you know, a couple of 

922
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,800
recipes you could do and can, 
you know, if you want to 

923
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,800
facilitate this learning 
experience for child, L 

924
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,700
understood by the end of it, 
they'll understand these things.

925
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:22,100
You know, I do agree. 
There's more fun ways to 

926
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:23,900
approach, that sort of stuff, 
because I've heard of schools, 

927
00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:26,700
Like primary schools, which I 
always find hard to believe. 

928
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:29,500
I've heard of so many primary 
schools in our country that 

929
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:32,200
genuinely set homework. 
Like two, three, four or five 

930
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,100
times a week. 
And I'm talking worksheets like 

931
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:38,000
it typically, maths is the one 
that will go home and be like a 

932
00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:40,100
mass worksheet, very Less in the
goes home. 

933
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:43,400
It's like five questions to do 
at home based on the learning 

934
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:47,600
and I just I just yeah I just 
think that's so much and for 

935
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,700
some children are loved it and 
ironically they'll probably be 

936
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:50,700
the ones that are higher 
Achievers. 

937
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:53,300
Anyway and the children that 
really really struggle with 

938
00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:55,000
mass. 
Well, hey, Every single minute 

939
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,400
of that majority of them, some 
parents were really supportive 

940
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,000
and they're below. 
Thank you, because I can help my

941
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,700
kids really behind a mass. 
And this will help me, but I do 

942
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:03,300
think the majority. 
I just not going to be in that 

943
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:06,400
situation. 
It's almost as local what you 

944
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,000
always say. 
And it's such a cop-out but 

945
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:11,100
hopefully having listened to our
conversation about it. 

946
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:15,100
People understand what we mean 
when we say there is no one 

947
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,000
answer. 
As always you know, every single

948
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,800
situation is different and I 
think that's why I feel like 

949
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,900
we're living in a culture lately
where You kind of have to pick a

950
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:28,200
side almost and, and it's just 
nice to have a proper talk about

951
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,400
it because if you, if this was a
scale of 0 to 10, neither of us 

952
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,700
are at zero or 10, not quite 
clearly and it's nuanced. 

953
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:38,400
There's lots of layers to it. 
And yeah, I actually really 

954
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,900
enjoyed that. 
And I'd be really, really 

955
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:41,500
interested. 
But go on now just because I 

956
00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:43,500
think if we pulled it back 
around to the original question,

957
00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:46,100
I reckon we could answer a bit 
more succinctly now in this idea

958
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:51,200
of should schools set mandatory 
homework, you know, that 

959
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,900
children must complete overall. 
There's a sort of punishment 

960
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,300
Loved, you know, that's kind of 
the original question and I 

961
00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:58,500
think that you said there's a 
big Spectrum, so that I think 

962
00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:01,000
the ultimate answer for me is 
still, no, I don't think they 

963
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,600
should set it and the art and 
the kind of solution. 

964
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,200
But I think has come from this 
is, but there should still be 

965
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,000
some optional activities and 
ways that we can facilitate that

966
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,400
learning at home. 
Should they want to so that 

967
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,800
people don't miss out. 
It's, it's interesting because 

968
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,400
I'm going to say now. 
My answer is still yes. 

969
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,200
Yeah, I would say it's good. 
It's interesting because so that

970
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,800
exact question. 
Should they set? 

971
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,200
It and, and I think it should be
said, as man. 

972
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,300
Yeah, it's really interesting 
because I'd still be like, yes, 

973
00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:33,500
but for very certain 
foundational things. 

974
00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:35,800
And I think that's where the, 
but always has to come in. 

975
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,200
Because if someone heard you 
just say, no, I can imagine some

976
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,900
parents. 
What, what, what do you mean, 

977
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:41,300
though? 
That, of course, it's good to 

978
00:42:41,308 --> 00:42:43,000
practice. 
And if some people had me to 

979
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,600
say, yes, I've got our here we 
go. 

980
00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:46,700
And then a teacher, trying to 
take over our weekend with all 

981
00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:47,400
the homework. 
Yeah. 

982
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,700
So that's really interesting. 
I enjoyed that a lot. 

983
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:53,000
I know what I do want to do 
because something we lack Caden 

984
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000
clearly Is the parent point of 
view. 

985
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,000
I'd be very, very, very 
interested of any you guys 

986
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,800
listening. 
If you've had children, who went

987
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,700
to school, you've got children 
currently now who are in school.

988
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,100
Can you talk to us? 
And tell us your opinion about 

989
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:09,000
homework will share someone on 
Instagram but it'd be really 

990
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,800
interesting for Aiden Hayden and
I to get that point of view from

991
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,100
from home because I think we 
could probably predict what 

992
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:16,200
people say that before engaged 
as always. 

993
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,400
But maybe you've got some 
specific stories and we want to 

994
00:43:19,408 --> 00:43:21,900
hear your insights. 
So you know either email us or 

995
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:23,300
get in touch and Instagram with 
left here. 

996
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,700
So, moving on later in the 
podcast, Dylan's got a new 

997
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:30,100
segment for us. 
I have no idea. 

998
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:32,700
What is so excited to find out 
that we've also got a funny 

999
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:35,200
story to finish off with at the 
end but Dylan, I did want to 

1000
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,100
just jump in with something 
because I couldn't resist that 

1001
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:39,800
toxicity. 
You know, when you see it. 

1002
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,300
Yeah, I just want to talk about 
it and then and moan and it 

1003
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:45,400
really hurts back what I saw to 
what we talked about in our last

1004
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,600
episode. 
So I'm just going to read parts 

1005
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,200
of this post. 
I saw on a forum to you and then

1006
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,400
we can just have a quick 
discussion. 

1007
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:52,800
All right. 
Yep. 

1008
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,600
So this person. 
Said that 50 years old, 

1009
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,300
unblemished teaching career 
being in the career, you know, 

1010
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:03,600
the whole time, classic classic,
just career teacher being a 

1011
00:44:03,607 --> 00:44:06,800
little bit ill recently returned
to work and the head teacher 

1012
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,700
said to them, this is quote 
quotations. 

1013
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,800
Think about a fresh start? 
A new school due to the 

1014
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,800
disruption caused by your 
absence. 

1015
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:17,200
What? 
Okay, so obviously got this 

1016
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,300
person's back up immediately. 
Like what? 

1017
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:22,300
What a thing to say. 
So now this person has been put 

1018
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:25,000
on a support plan. 
The thing we discussed last time

1019
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,300
that's the solution to this. 
Okay, you're on a support plan 

1020
00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:28,500
now. 
Apparently that's what it means 

1021
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:30,000
when they don't want because she
was Ill. 

1022
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,700
Yeah, she was there. 
She was off school and the 

1023
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:35,600
headteacher to do 42y. 
Well I mean I don't know there 

1024
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,600
might be some layers, we don't 
understand here, but it sounds 

1025
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,300
like the court that the context 
is person is giving is the head 

1026
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:42,100
teacher has now decided that you
should go and work somewhere 

1027
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,800
else, the solution to that is to
put you on a support plan. 

1028
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,500
I think are two very different 
things. 

1029
00:44:46,900 --> 00:44:49,900
It's just that classic example, 
again of a support plans being 

1030
00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:52,100
used to just get rid of a 
teacher, you know, I mean it's 

1031
00:44:52,100 --> 00:44:54,100
not being used to support a 
teacher, it's being used to get 

1032
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:55,800
rid of you. 
This is exactly what we said the

1033
00:44:55,808 --> 00:44:59,700
other day and you know, I think 
sometimes we can maybe feel like

1034
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:02,100
we're retreating into our little
hole of opinions, right. 

1035
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,700
And you know, it's a we're gonna
go on our podcast and say our 

1036
00:45:04,700 --> 00:45:08,400
opinions on things but this is 
true clearly we can see that. 

1037
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,900
Like it's not an opinion. 
This is what happens and we 

1038
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:14,600
spoke about it. 
The you go on a support plan and

1039
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,000
there. 
Is no guarantee that it's 

1040
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,000
because they care about 
supporting you. 

1041
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,400
There is a very very big chance 
that they're just nibbling away.

1042
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,500
Yeah. 
Trying to make you feel rubbish,

1043
00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:25,600
which is which is working. 
And this person is really gutted

1044
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,100
because they sort of finished I 
post by saying I really want to 

1045
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:31,600
fight for myself and other 
people in these kind of unfair 

1046
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,500
circumstances. 
And they said I'm genuinely not 

1047
00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:37,500
a poor teacher as you know as 
much as this support plan 

1048
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:41,700
capability thing. 
So Jess and just ask this 

1049
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:44,700
question is how can this happen?
Why ahead teachers able to play 

1050
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:47,400
tonight? 
Disregard employment law using 

1051
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,000
made up capability, that's 
completely subjective, which is 

1052
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,500
something I know we've briefly 
discussed before, as well. 

1053
00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:56,400
This whole idea of it is 
subjective. 

1054
00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:59,800
One head teacher might judge you
as our, why your outstanding, 

1055
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,700
you're an incredible teacher. 
And another head teacher might 

1056
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:03,300
not and the teacher that might 
not now. 

1057
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:05,600
Has the power today to just ruin
your career. 

1058
00:46:05,900 --> 00:46:08,100
Is that what we're saying? 
We're happy with that system 

1059
00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:11,500
only that, that head teacher can
just ruin it for you to know. 

1060
00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:14,400
I've just seems fishy to me and 
I still don't understand, maybe 

1061
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,800
it should be Cuz when I evil, we
just don't know, we're not 

1062
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,300
involved, but who's keeping 
these people accountable? 

1063
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,400
Because you just hear so many 
stories, don't you? 

1064
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:28,000
Mmm. 
Of these certain people who have

1065
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:34,200
the power who are in charge who 
are doing this as a pattern over

1066
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,800
years and years and years and 
because staff turnover. 

1067
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,800
So high in these places, you 
know what, five six, seven years

1068
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,100
down the line people have 
forgotten, mmm, because they've 

1069
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:44,700
moved on to another thing that 
we've done. 

1070
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,200
We've done so yet, they weren't 
there when actually happened 

1071
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,100
before, and that must be part of
the plan, and it's just his 

1072
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,000
honesty. 
If you, if you're looking at a 

1073
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,600
school I promise you, the number
one thing you should look at is 

1074
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,200
pretension. 
Look at the retention of Staff. 

1075
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,100
Because teachers on the whole 
are actually hugely loyal, 

1076
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,700
they're hugely loyal, they have 
children in their school. 

1077
00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:07,600
They really care about families.
They've worked with staff 

1078
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,300
members. 
Who are, you know, the glue that

1079
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:11,100
keeps so many schools ticking 
over. 

1080
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:14,700
Because, the camaraderie and the
friendship, it moving school is 

1081
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:16,600
a A big decision. 
It's a huge decision. 

1082
00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:18,900
How many times have we heard? 
Teachers say, oh, that's it. 

1083
00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:20,500
This is my, like, I can't work 
here anymore. 

1084
00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:23,000
And then they do one more year, 
two more years, three more 

1085
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,900
years. 
If a school has a high turnover 

1086
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:29,100
rate percentage, you can add a 
big chunk on it of teachers who 

1087
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:31,200
want to leave as well, but 
couldn't find a job or just at 

1088
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,800
the last minute. 
Thought now, it's easier just to

1089
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,300
get my head down. 
Yeah, because I tell you now 

1090
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:40,600
that is the biggest indicator 
for me for a quality or a school

1091
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,300
that you just don't want to be 
in a red flag of her stuff. 

1092
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,100
Yeah, if I will jump in, As well
because there's another 

1093
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:49,200
perspective of that, which is, 
it's not all. 

1094
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,000
It's mostly a red flag, but I 
have also seen situations where 

1095
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:54,800
a school has had the same stuff 
for a long time. 

1096
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,500
Then perhaps like the head 
teacher leaves and because, 

1097
00:47:56,900 --> 00:47:59,500
because, like you said, people 
could be really loyal. 

1098
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,800
You do. 
Sometimes find though that when 

1099
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,700
a head teacher leaves, the start
of some of the staff kind of 

1100
00:48:04,700 --> 00:48:06,300
leave as well. 
Because there was a really loyal

1101
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:08,900
and really stuck in their ways 
of that particular head teacher 

1102
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:11,200
when a new head teacher comes 
in, that might not intrinsically

1103
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,300
be bad or you know like toxic 
and anyway, they're just a bit 

1104
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:15,500
different. 
I've got their own stamp on 

1105
00:48:15,508 --> 00:48:18,100
things, new ideas. 
Sometimes I'd have noticed that 

1106
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:21,500
that that can cause a bit of a 
big staff turn around as well, 

1107
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:23,800
but I think we are right in 
terms of the big red flag. 

1108
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,100
For me is if that consistently 
happens for the next 10 years 

1109
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:28,100
and every year there's a huge 
turnover of Staff just 

1110
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:30,700
constantly and it's the same 
head teacher, same SLT. 

1111
00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:33,700
It's like probably a bit of a 
red flag, but that might not be 

1112
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:35,700
the best or positive place to 
workout. 

1113
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,800
Not guaranteed. 
Hey, it's at, it's just a fly. 

1114
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,900
It turns out after what we just 
said about homework, there's 

1115
00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:45,800
Nuance to this. 
But that's what I wanted to talk

1116
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,800
about with that bit, you know. 
It's just a, it was just a 

1117
00:48:47,808 --> 00:48:50,100
little thing. 
It we mentioned it last podcast.

1118
00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:51,900
I thought, hey, go, there's a 
bit of proof that we weren't 

1119
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:55,900
just like you said, making up 
our own little world, it does 

1120
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:58,500
happen, and it's such a shame. 
But talkative, making up your 

1121
00:48:58,508 --> 00:49:00,300
own little world. 
Welcome to my next segment. 

1122
00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:06,400
Like just yeah. 
Now this this was inspired by by

1123
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,000
a picture. 
I said I guess it's a meme I 

1124
00:49:08,008 --> 00:49:11,300
guess it's just online but and I
find myself going down these 

1125
00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:14,000
rabbit holes and this was 
relevant to teaching and I just 

1126
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,200
thought it's really fun. 
Any because we've totally spoken

1127
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,300
about this before, but the theme
here is just hilarious test 

1128
00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:21,900
answers or just children putting
down something funny. 

1129
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:22,700
Okay. 
Yeah. 

1130
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:26,000
And I'm going to start it off by
just reading out the sheet that 

1131
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,900
I found which inspired this. 
So I'm going to what this she 

1132
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:30,000
is. 
There's two parts to this 

1133
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,500
segment. 
Number one, I'll explain in a 

1134
00:49:31,508 --> 00:49:33,800
second. 
The number to a test questions 

1135
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,000
that I'm going to test you on, 
okay? 

1136
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,800
And I'll tell you the real 
answer which is what the kid 

1137
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,900
put, okay. 
So the first part of this, this 

1138
00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:44,200
is a list of sayings like idioms
that we have okay. 

1139
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:47,500
And The child was given the 
start and then had to finish it 

1140
00:49:47,500 --> 00:49:49,200
off. 
All right, so I'm going to give 

1141
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,900
you the start of an idiom, okay?
And then we're going to compare 

1142
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:53,600
it to what the child said, so 
you're going to try and finish 

1143
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,800
it off for me. 
Then I'm going to tell you you 

1144
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,400
were right or wrong, based on 
the child, being the teacher 

1145
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,000
rather child of Marcus pose me. 
Now, I'm going to get the same 

1146
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,800
answers as the children. 
Yeah. 

1147
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:07,300
For example, they start off here
all work and no play makes Jack 

1148
00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:11,800
Sad. 
Happy apparently according to 

1149
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:15,100
okay. 
So we're going to do once like 

1150
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:16,400
that. 
I'm going to read them out to 

1151
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,600
you and then we're going to find
out what the true answer is, 

1152
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,300
right? 
Got you, got you okay, number 

1153
00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:23,300
one. 
Okay, don't bite the hand. 

1154
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:26,500
That feeds. 
You don't buy that. 

1155
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,300
No, don't bite the hand. 
It tastes bad. 

1156
00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:32,100
Very literal. 
Yeah. 

1157
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:33,200
So we've mine was right by the 
way. 

1158
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,400
I don't. 
I'm not that. 

1159
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,200
Come on. 
Okay. 

1160
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,400
Okay. 
I'll tell you if it's actually 

1161
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,800
right in the real world. 
Correct. 

1162
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,600
Yeah. 
But the child thought it was 

1163
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:41,500
because it tastes bad. 
Yeah. 

1164
00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:43,100
Okay. 
Next one. 

1165
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,800
Don't look a gift horse. 
Is that in the face or 

1166
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,400
something? 
I don't know what the real one 

1167
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,600
is. 
Don't look a gift horse in the 

1168
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,500
mouth. 
Okay, this child put don't look 

1169
00:50:56,500 --> 00:51:00,500
a gift horse to me. 
All right, nonsense, don't look.

1170
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:03,800
Don't look, stop talks to me 
when the cat's away. 

1171
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:08,000
God, I don't know these idioms I
don't know them when the cat's 

1172
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,900
away. 
Don't sleep in its bed. 

1173
00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:13,300
I'm trying to be on the child 
level. 

1174
00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:17,500
Now, what do they but when the 
cat's away you will pay. 

1175
00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:23,300
Oh, that's that's ominous scary.
Openness, that's what you should

1176
00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:25,900
get this one. 
I hope people in glass houses 

1177
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,400
shouldn't throw stones. 
Correct. 

1178
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,700
Yeah. 
However, the right answer is our

1179
00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:34,600
Rich. 
It's so true like that. 

1180
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,400
It's nailed that one. 
Glass houses houses already. 

1181
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,200
I thought was gonna be a 
literal. 

1182
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,800
One. 
Like people in glass, houses can

1183
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,900
see everywhere. 
Thanks Rob. 

1184
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:48,600
If at first you don't succeed 
try again or try and try again. 

1185
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,900
Whatever is not calling to this 
child stop. 

1186
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,900
That's like Michael Scott from 
the office to get the quote 

1187
00:51:57,900 --> 00:51:59,600
wrong. 
That's so good. 

1188
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,100
It's the first you don't 
succeed. 

1189
00:52:01,300 --> 00:52:04,600
Stop stop. 
You can't do it. 

1190
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,800
You got it. 
That's pretty good. 

1191
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:10,500
Next one. 
This is one of my favorite ones.

1192
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,600
Don't count your chickens. 
I can't remember. 

1193
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,800
They're going, what are they? 
But don't count your chickens 

1194
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,500
because they need privacy. 
So, this is what the children 

1195
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:27,300
was their task. 
To actually try and finish the 

1196
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:29,100
idiom like trying to work out. 
What's the finish? 

1197
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:31,700
The idiom off so that they were 
given what I've given you and 

1198
00:52:31,700 --> 00:52:33,900
they had to write out the rest. 
Yeah, I mean, that's pretty, 

1199
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:35,400
that's hilarious. 
That's what I feel like we 

1200
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,000
should do that. 
Task just gonna be funny. 

1201
00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:40,000
I think we should and I really 
want really want to do this. 

1202
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,000
You know what, the real one is 
flow on. 

1203
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,400
Don't care of chickens. 
Don't count your chickens before

1204
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,200
they hatch or something, okay? 
Yeah like because, you know, 

1205
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,000
they might not as a quite old 
phrases. 

1206
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,300
That don't put Hayden. 
Please don't expose me and my 

1207
00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:54,900
lack of any exposing new. 
Next one, do, All your eggs in 

1208
00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:58,200
one basket. 
Yeah but according to this child

1209
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,300
don't put all your eggs in 
there. 

1210
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:03,900
That would say that was saying, 
you said, double your internet 

1211
00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:05,600
site, for your eggs in there. 
Yeah. 

1212
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,400
Okay. 
And the last one. 

1213
00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:14,600
Again, it's all right, okay? 
It's all fun and games until 

1214
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:17,800
it's all fun and games until my 
God, what is it? 

1215
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,300
Someone gets hurt or something 
like that. 

1216
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,900
I can't remember until Darth 
Vader. 

1217
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:27,300
Come true place in Rogue one. 
Oh man. 

1218
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,100
I just thought it was so 
brilliant because some of them 

1219
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:33,800
make sense but ah, don't count 
your chickens because they lead 

1220
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,900
privacy that last one though 
that last one is like perfect. 

1221
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:39,900
Depiction of child's imagination
of. 

1222
00:53:39,908 --> 00:53:41,800
What I love about children's 
imaginations. 

1223
00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:44,400
It's just they just lacked 
really that kid, obviously to 

1224
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,100
watch that film and loves that. 
At that time, I was like, that's

1225
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:48,600
a thing. 
Everyone will know what I mean. 

1226
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,500
Here. 
That shows a good understanding 

1227
00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:55,500
of like what they're saying. 
Means really, it's like so 

1228
00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:56,800
funny. 
Something awful happens. 

1229
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,100
Well, yeah, the fade is here 
like that, who's enjoying that, 

1230
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:00,400
what's more? 
It was the most awesome saw 

1231
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,100
something that can happen Darth 
Vader, right? 

1232
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:06,600
So off the back of that, I've 
gone away and I found some 

1233
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:07,700
questions. 
Yeah. 

1234
00:54:07,700 --> 00:54:09,600
Okay. 
With some child answers at the 

1235
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:10,600
bottom. 
Okay. 

1236
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,300
It's going to read through some 
of my favorite ones. 

1237
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,600
Join our answer. 
Then, why don't we just go 

1238
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:14,800
straighten? 
It depends, if you think I'm 

1239
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,100
going to embarrass myself or 
not, okay, I think you should 

1240
00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:19,900
try and answer them because if 
you do it by yourself even 

1241
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:23,500
better, where was the American 
Declaration of Independence 

1242
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:25,800
signed? 
Washington. 

1243
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,500
D.c. 
I presume at the bottom. 

1244
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:31,900
Oh God, I should have gone for 
that. 

1245
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,100
There's a safe answer. 
Good. 

1246
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:35,700
Okay, this is from an art 
lesson, yeah. 

1247
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:36,400
Okay. 
Yeah. 

1248
00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:40,900
What is your favorite Hue? 
As in that favorite color? 

1249
00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:44,500
I red blue. 
That's a No-No Jackman. 

1250
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,600
Hugh Jackman. 
Oh good, good, good. 

1251
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,300
It was supposed to be color, 
obviously, Hua. 

1252
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:54,300
Yeah, okay, buddy. 
Next one. 

1253
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,600
A long one. 
Here a displaces are prepared 

1254
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,800
slide on her microscope but when
she looks into it she can't see 

1255
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:06,300
anything suggest one reason why 
not There's a cap on the bottom 

1256
00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:07,800
of the micro, the microscope or 
something. 

1257
00:55:08,900 --> 00:55:11,300
She's blind. 
Oh my God. 

1258
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,400
That's totally. 
I mean, he's not wrong. 

1259
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:17,500
I believe it's not wrong. 
Is it? 

1260
00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:21,300
It's just like factual, could 
she see it? 

1261
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,700
That's like, that's that 
honestly. 

1262
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:26,100
Sounds like a setup to like one 
of those that just like a pub 

1263
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:29,300
joke. 
You know, I mean what you just 

1264
00:55:29,300 --> 00:55:31,200
really blunt at the end, you 
know, it's like so and so walks 

1265
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,700
into a bar, get those classic 
jokes and it's just Always a 

1266
00:55:33,707 --> 00:55:37,700
silly couch. 
Okay. 

1267
00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:39,300
Next song, I want you to do 
this. 

1268
00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:42,600
I'd always this genuinely, okay?
Describe yourself in three 

1269
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,400
words. 
Oh wow. 

1270
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,900
Okay that's L3. 
Well done. 

1271
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:55,200
They put I am a rebel. 
That's brilliant. 

1272
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,300
What because their rebellious I 
get it now, right? 

1273
00:55:59,300 --> 00:56:01,700
You look at it then I couldn't 
count to 4 that would. 

1274
00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:04,000
Please us have accounted for, I 
get it. 

1275
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,200
You thought the joke? 
There was just that they 

1276
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,300
couldn't get it right steeper. 
It was way deeper than that. 

1277
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:11,000
I'm a rebel I've written for 
words. 

1278
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,900
I get it. 
Exactly clever. 

1279
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:15,100
Right. 
So next one, Name six animals, 

1280
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:19,600
which live specifically in the 
Arctic so I can't be bothered go

1281
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:29,600
on to polar bears and for Silas 
a clever answer. 

1282
00:56:30,500 --> 00:56:33,100
The best thing about this was 
they'd written three seals 

1283
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:40,400
across that three. 
What I mean, again wrong, I 

1284
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,500
don't think so. 
Not really. 

1285
00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:45,100
I wonder how many people have 
actually who are listening to 

1286
00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:48,500
this at this very point in the 
podcast have listened to every 

1287
00:56:48,500 --> 00:56:51,400
single episode. 
Hmm, I want to do a little test 

1288
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,900
if you've listened to every 
single episode and you've got 

1289
00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:56,500
this far in this episode because
We're near the end. 

1290
00:56:56,500 --> 00:57:01,200
Now I want you to go to our 
Instagram, send us a message and

1291
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,500
I want you to do an emoji of 
Hayden. 

1292
00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:05,600
You can pick what random Emoji, 
should they send us? 

1293
00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:07,900
And it's like code for, they 
know exactly what we're talking 

1294
00:57:07,900 --> 00:57:10,400
about, how our even further. 
It's just it's an emoji that 

1295
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,300
only makes sense to us because 
they've listened to the 

1296
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:14,300
vodcasts. 
So something that we all, we'll 

1297
00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:16,100
know, they'll know. 
We all know because we've 

1298
00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:18,900
listened to the podcast but it 
wouldn't really make sense to 

1299
00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:20,000
anyone else. 
Like they would just think it 

1300
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,500
was a random Emoji. 
Okay. 

1301
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,000
So they need to think of their 
one of the moments from the 

1302
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,800
podcast that listen to yeah, 
summarize it Oh gee, send it to 

1303
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,000
us. 
And then we can try and guess 

1304
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,900
which part of the upper fun 
game. 

1305
00:57:29,900 --> 00:57:31,400
I like that. 
Yeah, let's do that. 

1306
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,700
Okay, cool. 
Rishi, I know you're watching 

1307
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:35,300
me. 
You send me one of those water 

1308
00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:37,400
ones for your little pool. 
You got in your garden. 

1309
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,900
So just before we wrap up this 
podcast, Dylan earlier on, you 

1310
00:57:43,900 --> 00:57:46,400
mentioned, like camaraderie at 
schools and how that helps 

1311
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,000
retention and all that. 
And it got me thinking about our

1312
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,000
camaraderie and let me yeah yeah
I mean you mean you and people 

1313
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,200
in general I guess but me and 
you for this story and I want to

1314
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,900
finish with like the funny. 
Story segment so it just has my 

1315
00:57:57,900 --> 00:57:59,600
look more like a corporate 
relationship. 

1316
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,900
Oh a business kind of work in 
business relationship, like a 

1317
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:04,700
transactional. 
Well, this week has proved that 

1318
00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:07,300
because you and answer any of my
messages in the things, you 

1319
00:58:07,300 --> 00:58:12,000
suggest that I'm sorry, I don't 
think this truly, it's a true 

1320
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,500
Bromance. 
So I was thinking back to, you 

1321
00:58:15,500 --> 00:58:17,500
know, our career because we 
spent a lot of time together at 

1322
00:58:17,500 --> 00:58:20,900
schools, and there's just one 
thing I remember, which is where

1323
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:22,600
you've come up with some funny 
names for me, right. 

1324
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,300
You know, we in you a chatting 
about it and we were laughing 

1325
00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:27,900
because you were Kind of rhyming
characters names but making 

1326
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:30,000
about my baldness which is all 
you know a good laugh. 

1327
00:58:30,300 --> 00:58:32,900
So here is here are two things 
that two names at Dylan's, come 

1328
00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:37,100
up with right and these two 
names, I've actually then just 

1329
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,400
like you know, if you've 
listened to our earlier 

1330
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,500
episodes, you'll know that we 
just try to teach the kids about

1331
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:43,300
humility and just having a bit 
of fun and learning to just take

1332
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:44,700
the mick out of yourself a 
little bit every now and then 

1333
00:58:44,700 --> 00:58:46,100
not being so hard up about 
everything. 

1334
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:47,900
So I said to my class is that, 
right? 

1335
00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:50,000
Mr. Pryce has come up with two 
names. 

1336
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,800
I need you to vote on what the 
best nickname for me is and the 

1337
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:59,300
two names were Lord Voldemort 
and the other one, the classic. 

1338
00:58:59,300 --> 00:59:02,200
Yeah. 
Lord Baltimore and Goldilocks 

1339
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:07,000
and the three hairs. 
So, I presented that to my 

1340
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,300
class, I don't know what you, 
you know, how I think about 

1341
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:12,800
home, because I think there's a 
clear winner then we'll do a 

1342
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,800
vote, will do a vote because we 
said, we said straight away and 

1343
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,300
from me, my point of view 
because I came up with them, I 

1344
00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:21,200
was so much more proud of one of
them. 

1345
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,700
Yeah. 
Like and I think it's quite 

1346
00:59:22,700 --> 00:59:25,900
clear, that Lord Voldemort is 
quite lazy like, because yeah. 

1347
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,600
Voldemort is. 
Yeah, bold and it rhymes with 

1348
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:33,800
bold bold but when I bowled a 
locks in the street yet, it's so

1349
00:59:34,300 --> 00:59:37,100
so happy. 
And so the kids though, late 

1350
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:39,400
that I agree, by the way, bold 
locks on the three hairs is 

1351
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,100
genius. 
Got the double rhyming in there?

1352
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:44,500
It's really clever. 
But yeah, the kids love Lord 

1353
00:59:44,500 --> 00:59:45,800
Baltimore. 
I think it's just more. 

1354
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,400
It's Harry Potter. 
You know, they can just relate 

1355
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,000
to and it's just funny to say so
a quick story for you, Dylan, 

1356
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:53,400
okay? 
This week, I had a text message 

1357
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,500
from someone. 
I know you're not Super close. 

1358
00:59:56,500 --> 00:59:59,100
But just I just know this 
person, and they messaged me 

1359
00:59:59,100 --> 01:00:04,100
saying that they were out and 
about in town and in a fish and 

1360
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:07,400
chip shop bumped into a family, 
they sort of know as well. 

1361
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,500
So just a classic like bit of 
chitchat and they are with their

1362
01:00:11,700 --> 01:00:14,700
their child, right? 
And just make it a bit of small 

1363
01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:18,200
talk that my friend personal 
message me said to the child. 

1364
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,100
Oh yeah, so what you do is you 
go to the way to go to school 

1365
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:24,100
buddy, buddy to the what sort of
stuff and turns out they go to 

1366
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:27,400
the school, I work in it, turns 
out there is I class as well. 

1367
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,000
No and and he said oh do you 
know mr. 

1368
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,000
Stevens then and this child said
yeah, that's my teacher but we 

1369
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:39,400
all call him Lord Voldemort my 
friend just text me. 

1370
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,000
This obviously in stitches like 
what on Earth are you doing with

1371
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,500
these kids? 
Why are they calling you Lord 

1372
01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:47,600
Voldemort? 
Yeah fully it fully exposed me 

1373
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,400
telling myself around me. 
Yeah. 

1374
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,600
How much do you regret that 
other than are not at all? 

1375
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,100
Not at all because to me I was 
like, all right, I'll get my 

1376
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:56,800
revenge. 
Don't It will have a good laugh 

1377
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,300
about it. 
And that's why that's why I 

1378
01:00:58,300 --> 01:00:59,700
love, you know, again going back
to teaching. 

1379
01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:02,000
I love that song about teaching.
I'll have us properly. 

1380
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:05,000
We will on Monday next week. 
I'll mention that and I'll do 

1381
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,700
the whole like pretending to be 
annoyed thing. 

1382
01:01:06,700 --> 01:01:10,000
Build it up and we'll have such 
a good laugh over that moment. 

1383
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,600
And, you know, hopefully be 
something memorable but I just 

1384
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,900
thought was funny out how your 
silly names of got to the point 

1385
01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:18,300
where a child a fish and chip 
shop refers to me as Lord 

1386
01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:22,500
Baltimore to strangers. 
It did make me think about other

1387
01:01:22,500 --> 01:01:26,200
stuff we've done. 
So I know there's so much, I 

1388
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,400
thought I thought up on straight
away. 

1389
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,800
Come on, come on, yeah, go on 
because it is one my favorite 

1390
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,000
things I've ever done. 
But like, like, like just for 

1391
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,600
the context for everyone who 
might not know we've we've 

1392
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,800
worked in schools with each 
other like across the year. 

1393
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,400
Sometimes we did, sometimes we 
didn't, but for like years and 

1394
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,900
years now and it's just a 
constant back and forth between 

1395
01:01:43,900 --> 01:01:46,400
Hayden and I have answer. 
I get one up on each other, just

1396
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,200
constantly constantly trying to 
undermine each other in front of

1397
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,400
other people. 
It's cool. 

1398
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,500
But everyone knows. 
It's a joke like a well-known 

1399
01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:55,200
thing. 
And My favorite things like ever

1400
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,300
did was I'd borrowed your 
stapler once because I don't 

1401
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:00,900
have like a hand stapler once 
and you're the guy. 

1402
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:03,700
You I know. 
Yeah, I know you've got it. 

1403
01:02:03,700 --> 01:02:05,800
So I whenever I want need one 
I'll come and grab it off you 

1404
01:02:06,300 --> 01:02:08,700
and I went in to grab it one 
time and you went in there and I

1405
01:02:08,707 --> 01:02:10,500
was like, oh well I really need 
it and I know where it is. 

1406
01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:12,100
So I'm just going to go get it 
out of the drawer. 

1407
01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:15,600
And what I noticed was Hayden's 
laptop was open with his 

1408
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,200
afternoon lesson ready because 
obviously, you know, we don't 

1409
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,400
really get time at lunch as we 
talked about before, so you get 

1410
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,100
everything ready. 
As soon as you can, that's one 

1411
01:02:22,100 --> 01:02:23,800
less thing to think about the 
smarts ready. 

1412
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,000
And he was eating his lunch, 
then the other end of the 

1413
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,500
school. 
So I knew for a fact that Haydn 

1414
01:02:29,500 --> 01:02:31,800
had a picture of himself from a 
math lesson. 

1415
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,400
He did ages ago, saved in his 
computer and it was like, it 

1416
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,400
wasn't like a, it wasn't 
inappropriate anything. 

1417
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,300
It was just like a funny picture
of embarrassing. 

1418
01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:41,500
So what I did yeah, it was in 
fact was like from when you were

1419
01:02:41,500 --> 01:02:44,900
at school, when you had your 
lovely locks of hair, so what I 

1420
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:49,800
did was I got that photo, I want
a laptop, I got that photo, and 

1421
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,700
I was really proud of this. 
I basically copied it into his 

1422
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:55,800
lesson. 
Add a new slide like my three 

1423
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,400
down. 
So that so that what he's 

1424
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,400
teaching his list he would press
this and what I stretch the 

1425
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,900
photo to fill the frame. 
So you're already warped your 

1426
01:03:04,900 --> 01:03:07,000
face was so wide. 
You can see your hair and your 

1427
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,400
smile got across other thing. 
But my most the thing I was most

1428
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:14,200
proud of was that I also put it 
in again like three slides from 

1429
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,200
the end because I know Hayden 
has this kind of idea of just 

1430
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,700
checking his smiley to make sure
nothing's happened to go through

1431
01:03:20,700 --> 01:03:23,200
it again. 
And I just knew that if I put it

1432
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,100
in there twice, Again he won't 
notice it and lo and behold 

1433
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:29,400
teaching this lesson you can 
tell the rest. 

1434
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:30,600
That's exactly what happened. 
I noticed. 

1435
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,700
The first one I saw it there on 
the side it was only a few 

1436
01:03:32,700 --> 01:03:34,400
slides in. 
I was like classic, they learn, 

1437
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:35,900
he's been in here trying to 
prank me. 

1438
01:03:36,300 --> 01:03:38,300
Well, played well played but you
know I'm not falling for it. 

1439
01:03:38,300 --> 01:03:40,500
This time, delete the slide and 
then taught the lesson video 

1440
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:44,300
came up again later on it just 
as full screen image of me, just

1441
01:03:44,300 --> 01:03:46,900
looking silly. 
It was funny, I love do dick 

1442
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,300
because it was just before your 
task. 

1443
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:50,400
So I really wanted this to 
happen where you just a try. 

1444
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:51,900
Okay, everyone had a really good
lesson. 

1445
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,000
We've learned so much, now's 
your chance Really show off. 

1446
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:58,600
Here's your task for super 
fucking walk dead. 

1447
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,600
Yeah it was booked as well. 
You stretched it another time. 

1448
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,800
It just you did the he's done 
this a couple times, right? 

1449
01:04:04,900 --> 01:04:08,800
And another time this was I 
think maybe before then, I don't

1450
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,100
know. 
But another time you did it you 

1451
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:13,000
just when I went out to breaks 
Duty and I came back in, I just 

1452
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,700
literally get in my class to 
come back in for the next 

1453
01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:16,100
lesson. 
You'd been in my classroom, 

1454
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:17,800
probably borrowing my stapler, 
as always. 

1455
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,600
And I just thought it'd be funny
to put a full-screen image just 

1456
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,300
on the screen there. 
Someone came back in and it was 

1457
01:04:23,300 --> 01:04:25,000
all there and the Best bit about
this story. 

1458
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,400
Was it just happened to be the 
one time that I walked in, with 

1459
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,300
the deputy head, never ever 
happens. 

1460
01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:31,900
Never happens. 
But a deputy had walked in with 

1461
01:04:31,900 --> 01:04:34,000
me and obviously, I'm, you're 
leading with kids in. 

1462
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:38,700
He's talking to me as we go in, 
looks at the board and I wasn't 

1463
01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:39,200
so. 
Don't know why? 

1464
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,000
Because he's a great guy, but a 
little bit of me was a little 

1465
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,100
bit like, oh God, I'm worried 
that he's gonna be like one 

1466
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:45,300
Earth are you doing? 
But he just immediately 

1467
01:04:45,500 --> 01:04:47,100
immediately said that has been 
here. 

1468
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:55,300
He just knew he knew, it was you
I forgot about that because you 

1469
01:04:55,308 --> 01:04:57,000
can obviously you can freeze 
your screen. 

1470
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,300
Yes. 
When you're teaching us stuff 

1471
01:04:58,300 --> 01:05:00,700
and multiple times, I've done 
the same thing where I've just, 

1472
01:05:00,700 --> 01:05:03,400
I've not put it in your lesson, 
but I'll just come in freeze 

1473
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,100
your screen at one time where I 
tried to hide your remote. 

1474
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,100
See, you can. 
Yeah, you did. 

1475
01:05:08,700 --> 01:05:11,300
Yeah, you did. 
I found it in my like you found 

1476
01:05:11,300 --> 01:05:13,300
it eventually like I knew you'd 
find it cause she needs to teach

1477
01:05:13,300 --> 01:05:15,100
a lesson, but I just thought 
it'd be funny to send you into a

1478
01:05:15,107 --> 01:05:16,900
panic or three minutes. 
As you guys can tell, I'll be 

1479
01:05:16,900 --> 01:05:19,000
bringing a support line soon. 
Because, Dylan tenant has 

1480
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,700
victimized me at school as 
another. 

1481
01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:25,600
Another time here he is years. 
Ghost turning into like an Agony

1482
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:26,500
Aunt. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1483
01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:28,300
I'm gonna realize the end of 
this, you're not my friend at 

1484
01:05:28,300 --> 01:05:29,100
all. 
You're the ones that were called

1485
01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:30,300
me. 
A big forehead at school. 

1486
01:05:31,300 --> 01:05:34,900
It wasn't a joke. 
So, back in our early days of 

1487
01:05:34,908 --> 01:05:37,700
teaching, tenant would quite 
often walking with his phone up 

1488
01:05:37,700 --> 01:05:38,800
filming. 
This is after school. 

1489
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,400
I way after school with 
marketing and things at this 

1490
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,100
point and he had this little 
stress ball like a little Globe,

1491
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:45,200
I remember it. 
Well just little squishy thing 

1492
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,400
and he'd walk in with his phone 
out film and get like first 

1493
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,900
person hand there and he'd 
always try and launch it across 

1494
01:05:49,900 --> 01:05:51,100
the room. 
See if he could get me with a 

1495
01:05:51,107 --> 01:05:52,900
ball. 
I need such a good shot. 

1496
01:05:52,900 --> 01:05:54,700
It was so annoying. 
It was Maybe jump because you 

1497
01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:56,100
died should be hit with a stress
ball. 

1498
01:05:56,300 --> 01:05:58,400
And he's walk off laughing. 
I try to always try to get my 

1499
01:05:58,408 --> 01:06:02,400
revenge on him, go back to his 
room, phone out, launch the 

1500
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,400
ball, missing by at 4 meters, 
just embarrass myself. 

1501
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,200
So I know, I never quite got 
your back for that one. 

1502
01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:09,800
That's where all those years and
years of Youth Cricket. 

1503
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,400
Come in handy, you know, walk of
those stumps as your heads much 

1504
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,500
bigger than a bale, like a 
Christmas question. 

1505
01:06:17,900 --> 01:06:21,000
Let's leave that there. 
You exposed your brain, but 

1506
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,900
yeah, my head is much bigger 
than a Christian Bale. 

1507
01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:29,700
Cricut file, Christian Bale. 
The only time I've managed to 

1508
01:06:29,707 --> 01:06:33,000
slightly get you back and I 
consistently do it is just any 

1509
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,300
any email that signed off from 
me and you because we're the 

1510
01:06:35,300 --> 01:06:38,600
mass coordinate is a school any 
email, it'll be yeah. 

1511
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:39,200
Thank you. 
No. 

1512
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,300
Thanks Hayden. 
And then I'll / and Dylan are 

1513
01:06:42,300 --> 01:06:45,900
spelled his name wrong and put 
it in slots, font size for or 

1514
01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:48,300
something, just so really? 
Yeah, it's insignificant man. 

1515
01:06:48,500 --> 01:06:53,100
Who was also did this job with 
me, the banter? 

1516
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,800
All right. 
Anyway, before I get accused of,

1517
01:06:56,300 --> 01:06:59,100
you know, workplace Mistress 
maltreatment of Hayden 

1518
01:07:00,300 --> 01:07:02,800
maltreatment mystery mad, you 
know, I need to stop doing this 

1519
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,900
podcast before we finish gone. 
It's just, I need to stop trying

1520
01:07:05,900 --> 01:07:09,100
to use Fancy with bullying it to
my roots, you know, two 

1521
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:11,900
syllables maximum, just just get
through it easily. 

1522
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,300
And, you know, I then could 
challenge for you then to finish

1523
01:07:14,300 --> 01:07:17,800
this podcast, one syllable was 
only please and the podcast, 

1524
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:25,500
Dylan off you go, okay, I Would 
like to say. 

1525
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:38,900
Thanks for hear us talk and we 
will see you next time. 

1526
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,000
Bye.