All right, episode 11, we've done some kind of funny skit so
far, the people love it, they like Preston playing.
We get straight into a little joke, but I think in this time,
we have to go hard. Okay, we need to really push
forward with getting the people to share the podcast with their
friends. Ok, so any ideas, well, we need
more customers, don't we? And as much as they go to our
Spotify and they give us ratings and stuff.
Yeah, you're right. We need people to share it on
their social media. Perhaps Facebook stuff.
Like this is the thing. They're on our Instagram.
They're interacting with us. The like an our post was telling
them to get on their. Turn us to email us.
Anna stories, but the end of the day we want to grow.
Well, I grow do. Anybody had been waiting for us
to grow grow, grow grow, grow podcast money, right?
You know, we've got 45 seconds or so, let's just tell them in a
funny way, because otherwise, pretty pathetic, isn't it?
You listening to two fully grown men sit in their rooms.
We're gonna have a lot of cars that alone like me, like me.
So, he time think of a really funny way of just getting them
to do it. That's clever.
We can't just tell them like, it has to be as like a story.
You know how we did a story last week.
We can't just tell them because it's pathetic.
They literally so pathetic. If we're lucky.
To see if we just do a thing where were like, hey guys, just
come and like share our podcast. They're going to cringe.
They're gonna hate it. Like me, they call your friends
like me as well, please. So I could do this more.
It's just, honestly, I don't disturb in this business.
I'm done, I'm finished. Okay, let's forget about it,
stupid idea. Yeah.
Right. Hello everyone.
Hello everyone and welcome back to episode 11 of teach sleep.
Repeat, my name is Dylan. Okay, how is it the same way?
It's fine. We'll carry on, no, no, we'll
carry on. We'll carry on is fine.
And my name is Heather what he did.
I don't spill that you have because you know very well every
now and then you put a little shopping list.
You don't actually have it's because I'm really close to the
microphone. I don't want to, I don't want to
hurt the Audiences is I care about them?
I don't. Obviously when I start screaming
my laughs oh yeah. Anyway, you've really thrown me
off now because I thrive on on routine and now I don't really
know. Can't say.
You can't say you the exact same thing that you always say.
The beginning was get this started.
Hi everyone. Welcome back to another episode
of THC repeat. My name is Dylan and my name is
Hayden, and this is episode 11. We are smashing through the
double digits with our second double digit episode, White
House, it feels. Yeah, I'm yeah.
Smashing through Whole to, to hold it.
You know what? They'll be many more to come.
I'm sure before we reach the elusive, three digits.
That's the big jump isn't actually in go from two digits.
The three digit. Can you imagine iPhone 3 digit
24 Direction? But now that's not happen during
will make it to 100. That's a lot of episodes 100
weeks. That's two years, right?
Yeah, absolutely. Not can't part of your knee.
We're going to a story spin. Yeah.
Well as we all know, it's been half time and truly truly
genuinely Don't think I've spoken to you like at all.
Know in about in about a week's it almost since the last
podcast. So for the first time in
history, I'm going to actually be genuinely listening and
paying attention to what you're saying and this segment of the
pile. So Hayden will have, you know, I
know, I know we haven't been talking much and I know you kind
of got used to it as well, because what did happen was the
last couple of days. If you look back through our
messenger chat, maybe you're not even aware of it, but I would
have messaged you, right? And then you have to apply for
hours. And by that point I've already
moved on. I've missed you something else.
You don't reply to that either. I've got to a third thing and
then you might replace that third thing.
You just completely ignoring the other two points in which I
spoke to today. You've done that like three
times in the last few days just below.
Okay? I guess he doesn't want to reply
to them. So essentially what has happened
is I we haven't fallen into this trap of not talking to each
other. I've just been blatantly
ignoring you. Okay, I'm sorry.
I'll have a little flick through after if anything pops out that
I'm one to talk about our reply. Yeah.
That's fair enough.
No, it's fine. Don't worry about it, man.
Sorry, I had a good time anyway away from you.
So go on. Tell me what happened while you
were away. That's the staff asked me.
What? My job is to ask me every 10 the
best man. Yeah.
All right, all right. Go.
Listen to last week's episode. If you want to hear Dylan, rinse
me about about trying to feel good about being best man.
Anyway, so last episode I did mention that was gonna stack T.
I've been on that stack do now it was a really good, really
good. Fun.
We went up to the Lake District and we did Gorge walking and
Dylan. I've actually just sent, you
keep having those your phone. I've just sent you a video.
Wait for you. So like, you know, full, well,
you need to send me three different things.
The look at your messages. Yeah.
I sent you about 12 messages
asking, if you are right. You ignore me.
But if you look at your phone, I've sent you a little video for
you to watch what I'm talking of me, jumping off of a Gorge.
So in the Lake District, we climbed up a Gorge which was
pretty eventful on the way up. The idea was there like big
pools of water that you jump in from the rocks and one of them
was 14 meters high, okay? Which is, which is pretty high.
I'm not gonna lie, it's like three stories.
Or it sounds really rubbish. When you say things are m in
height, I know. It does 14 sounds like nothing
but 14 meters is huge. Yeah, I know, ice exactly what I
thought when I saw when I read that it was 40 meters as I.
Uh, so it's fairly big jump seeing it though.
I was like, really, this is a cliff, this is a cliff, and
we're jumping off. And that's like, that's like 15
meters. If you think the exactly, then
that's basically 20, if you round it.
So, we basically jumped 20 meters, 25 meters near you.
If you take into account the feeling quite of 100, you know,
is that? We were dropping a course.
And yeah, I just want you to see it because it was exhilarating,
I mean, it's pretty cool. I think we're going to post this
on our Instagram, because it's one of those like optical
illusions almost where you jump in.
And I expected to hit the water much sooner than you do.
Yeah. Because you can already tell how
deep it. I tell you what, it was that
kind of height. I hit the water such speed, but
when I went under water, my right eyelid just completely
came up like with the water pressure.
Got in there and I felt like my eyelids slap.
The top of my forehead. Not the my forehead.
Ends. But no, sorry, I'm sorry, I'm
sorry. You could barely touch the top
of your forehead so far back. Yeah, okay.
Alright. So more, maybe I exaggerated a
bit touch, it felt like a touch my eyebrow.
When I came up from the water, I was half expecting my eye to be
like, hanging out, really dramatic.
It was absolutely fine. It did nothing on my eyelid,
just flicked up and back down again from the water pressure.
But oh man, it was so cool. And the dangerous thing about
this jump was halfway down, there was a massive ledge
jutting out, which earlier on in the war.
What like, when we were climbing up in the first place, we
actually climbed onto that ledge and jumped into that same pool
of water, and then sort of later on when we got to the top of the
gorge weakest kind of circle back around the top and then it
was like, oh, you can actually jump from the top of you want.
You just got to not hit that massive ledge that we were
jumping from earlier. So we had, that's a clear.
It not everyone did this one. I think it was even the guy just
like to say that everyone. Cleared it.
No, no, no. Like half the group just didn't
even attempt this one. It was a bit sketchy.
Yeah, but even the guide was like yeah, I don't normally take
groups To this one because it's a bit bit Dodge, but you guys
seem really Keen. So there's that, you know, if
you want to give it a go, you can have your Mustang.
That's so cool. It was so scary, man but I'm
glad I did it like the feeling of just that you know, that, you
know, when you get like a thrilling experience, the only
last a couple seconds, but it's like it's such an unreal, like
Adrenaline Rush. It's like when when it's
lunchtime and the Lunch Ladies, come around and say this pear.
Dessert left that Rush? Yeah.
Oh my gosh, and you know, it's a whole tray, a whole train.
You can eat as much as you want. I had an amazing time.
I would definitely recommend if Select thrill-seeking, that sort
of stuff. Yeah, so cool.
So cool. I would say that you're a, you
do look really scared of that video, which is quite funny but
then you do it. So, fair play to you jokes
aside, I don't think I'd be able to do that.
No truly, so very good, anything else.
Yeah, so obviously did that. We also went to The Crystal Maze
experience in Manchester. That was really cool.
They've got one of my eyes done that.
Oh yeah, you've done it. I forgot.
You've done that before. It's amazing.
Right? Yeah, it was really cool.
Like it felt like a proper TV set like really, really sick.
I expected it to be a little bit like, you know, when you're
obviously in TV like Nikki, right?
But yeah, they put all the effort into TV and I thought for
this thing it'll just be like, heart, you know, half there but
it was just like full-on amazing and the host taking us around
with so good like really over-the-top acting.
I love that because you know that's just what you need that
energy. He had such a good time such
good time. I did feel quite good because
there was one room. The first room I had to do was
it's really weird. I walked in those is guy dressed
as the Easter Bunny. It's like so I know literally
like an actor just just walking around in He's supposed to be a
bit like bit strange and what a job and he dressed as the Easter
Bunny with this crop top on. So his belly was, I was really
funny the way you learned. And he made me sit down, he was
like, right in this room. They're going to be three
questions if you get two or more than right?
You get the crystal. Okay, here we go.
So I to sit on this like, treloggen, it's really
hilariously like Easter Bunny, kind of Easter eggs everywhere,
you know, setting and the first question, I want to see if you
get it right, okay? But I'm just gonna say what you
said, he gave me three options, right?
He said On Easter Sunday MNS cell which of the following type
of Easter eggs. The most a milk, chocolate
Easter eggs, be white chocolate, see dark chocolate, That was the
question. So, my gut instinct is, is milk
chocolate, but because he's asking them because it's Ms, and
because they're all their Posh, I'll say dark chocolate.
Is that your final answer? Yeah.
Okay. I'm gonna say what I did is I
felt really smug just before the whole team.
I like questioning to doing the same sort of thing.
I like dark chocolate. Maybe it's Ms. B.
Pasha Pasha. Oh, it's closed.
I need those. Yeah.
And I realized last like literally just before we were
about to put an answer in, I was like, hang on a minute, very
good Easter Sunday. At the shops are open.
It's a trick question. So I got that one, right?
And I was like yes because then afterwards, I'm refresh right to
not trust the question. Yeah, I was wrong in my process.
Yeah, exactly that. So I think the kind of game in
this one was because you need to write.
I think generally people get the first one wrong and then they
have to get the next to right because the next to actually
just straightforward a true or false questions.
There was no trickery. Yeah but this point I was like
expecting tricks. I wouldn't just give him a
straight answer. He's getting really like just to
say is true or false. So next time give you all of
match. These interesting people at home
can have a garden as well. So the next one was a true or
false question. And it was the statement was
women by more Easter eggs than men, true or false.
Absolutely true. What's your reasoning?
Because I know for a fact in my family, my mom's the organized
one who would always go out and buy them.
Yeah. Like it in a family that sense
to be fair though I go and buy them for myself and probably as
much as I see you, every both are the kind of layers of
reasoning and weeks. We sort of settled on true
because we did feel like we just like just jumping on stereo
tires. We were like, probably more like
The Stereotype though. It's like an experience isn't
it? Might want my mum.
So my personal experience is my mom goes and buys them and I
know that's a. Yeah, sure.
We've all had that experience as well.
And we think come on our mom's always.
Other one's going out of buying our stuff.
It was false. We said, true is false,
apparently meant. Yeah.
Men by more Easter eggs and women and I was like, it does
make sense because I probably in more Easter eggs than we've
bought for other people. So, I've all them.
I don't think that that experience at most so, yeah,
that's got that one wrong. And then there's one more
question. So we're one up one down now,
how to get this one, right? And the last question was and
give again, going to give you this to see if you can answer
it. It was A percentage of the
population wise which country buys more Easter eggs, basically
the UK or the USA. I would say the UK.
And it's only because it obviously is a percentage.
So I don't know this trying to build a building a trap you to
think this way more Mary. Yeah, that's what I thought.
Yeah. So I did the exact exact same
logic. I'd had no idea and I was like,
clearly, the Trap is USA because its massive but percentage wise
and I went UK and UK was right? They, we got that, we got the
crystal for that one. Yeah, we had a great time.
It customizes was epic. I know you've done it.
I thoroughly enjoyed it as well. If anyone else is thinking about
doing it, they've got one in London and they've got one in
Manchester, right? So I've banged on about my
exhilarating. Exciting super epic half-term
where I've been doing so many cool, crazy things.
What have you been up to Dylan? Absolutely nothing.
Absolute now I'm checking. Now we had like I said last week
our niece came from America. So honestly, we spent almost
every waking minute with her, which is not a bad thing.
It's absolutely brilliant. Yeah, it's a know, there's just
something about young children when they're in your family.
It's just so enjoyable, isn't it?
Just playing with it? You turn into a different
person. I had my nails done this week, I
had extensions put in my hair. If, if a really cute
two-and-a-half-year-old comes up to you and says, you want to
come play and you you say, yes. It's as simple as that.
You don't, you don't say no and whatever they want to play, you
get their huge inflatable balloons that we talked about
last week. Went down a storm there.
Was none of this like oh a bit pensive about it and I'll go and
Play with cardboard box rabbit's?
No, no, no, no, pony came everywhere with us.
Yeah. And every, every half an hour,
you want to ride the pony. Oh, I don't know.
You ride the pony. So do you want to ride the pony?
Know you ride the pony science that they're on a pretending to
ride the pony, but she was very, very happy.
And then she would carry on playing something else there, I
stepped off the pony. She'd she'd immediately realized
what, no, get on the pony. Okay, I'm just used to have the
balloons. Yeah, they're still there,
they're still being very still in the picture on Instagram of
them. I can't run forever.
Show them now, we, well, I have to go, there's, there's this
other moment where we were watching the football and it was
Arsenal vs, Liverpool and there was a penalty, right?
So there's a penalty about to be taken.
And so then she decides, that's the moment to go and grab the
pony and start running up to us and throwing and I face we
missed the belly. But now it was really, it's been
really nice because I've managed to just avoid work as well,
which is, you know, avoiding work is really nice whilst
you're doing yet but I can see myself in the next three or four
days. When I look at my to do this, to
be like. I wish maybe I'd done some of
this earlier but equally this you just got to turn off.
Sometimes it's actually it's really important.
And in this two-week halftime the reason why two-week half
times are so good is because you really can just block out a huge
Bitcoin. You.
And actually just say, okay, look two or three days of work,
This set this side or that side, I did a little bit of work at
the start. I've got a little bit more work
to do at the end, but that's what it's for and I just don't
want to fall into that trap of feeling a bit guilty of, or have
I done enough work on my time off as like, what a statement,
what a statement to say, an efficient ever would say that
have I done enough work on my time off site.
No, I think it will get the we should do a poll about that
because I would put if you put a poll out there that was like do
you feel guilty if you don't do a set amount of work, I would be
like yep because I still get that feeling every time I've
done loads of work this afternoon and knowingly, I've
just kind of drip Loads of things are like, and I'm just
like, why what am I doing? Why have I done this?
Then the rest of it, which I'm in a different position to you
now, because I've not got much left.
I'll probably just spend like half a day or the weekend, maybe
just finishing up B, but yeah, it is annoying and I did feel
guilty. I was like, well I better do
something. I've not done anything for a
day, so I better do something. Well, the good thing is, we've
all rested with recuperated. We've got back bit of our energy
because I know we are flagging at the end of last time, only
big time and I'm actually, I'm ready to hit the ground running
this time and I do feel good about it.
So we're going to go and move on.
On now to our next section because I've got a little
surprise for you. So hater there is a surprise
here. This is a first on the podcast
because yeah, I have dropped off a box for you, you've got the
mystery box. Yep, I've got it here.
I want you to grab the mystery box.
Pick it up. You Hayden's got no idea what's
in this? Yeah, I've got still be a couple
of our listeners listening right now who know exactly what's
coming up and there were lots of them who don't.
So I don't even know what I've got here.
Gone can open it or not. Yeah, It's a bit but don't don't
actually open it properly yet. So under this the box I'm gonna
give you the context. Is it feel light or heavy?
What you think it might be? Really light to the point where
I'm like is it is it's just a joke is nothing.
It is or thing, I don't know. I feel like I should talk on,
it's probably something raised in the podcast.
I cannot think about all. This is, you can you can you
have any idea at all? What it might be because I
because I have specifically told Hayden that we have to open this
on the podcast. So he's right it's to do the
podcast, you know what, my memory is like Dylan.
I can all see it. And I will, of course I
genuinely Don't know what this Joy if you see it, it's never
been mentioned before to you. It's never been mentioned to
you, but it's to do with the podcast, okay?
I think this is the moment I want you to you, people who are
just listed, by the way, I'm sorry that this is going to be
quite a visual thing, but we'll explain what's going on after
they run the wheels, you'll see where for ways to make a rules.
Open up, I'm opening now some look there paper.
Oh yeah. You know, when either Mike, by
the way, looks like a t-shirt or something.
Oh no way it says under aft. Oh my God you got this
custom-made. I didn't even put it in for
order. I got delivered to my house and
asking I've got one as well. Look I've got one who that is
amazing. Whoever's done that.
You are a legend. It literally says on it.
It's like a dictionary adjectives.
Maybe it means like really skinny so funny.
Oh man, I am Absolutely, love that we've got.
We've got one each. So now we've got some uniform
for our podcast but the story is my parents dropped off some
Easter eggs for us. Yeah, and in there out shed at
the back. They have these, this printing
study to printing for a various like motorcycle groups and stuff
that there are that they're all involved in and, and yeah.
So they've made this for us. They dropped off to me.
I'd know request, I didn't ask for it.
They were just like, oh, it's we just wanted to give you this and
just surprised me with this thing that is 10/10.
I'm wearing. Next time we did a podcast and
Forever After Even when we get to episode 100, I'm still gonna
be wearing that t-shirt. Yes, absolutely.
So that's a. So we got one of them each.
So in the next row, lot of rails have a uniform.
Oh, that's so good. So, you know, when people are
listening back to this episode, when they are on episode 100,
they'll probably be in the merch store by then, so you can pick
up right underneath teacher. Well, this, this is an excuse
announcement, Hayden. We've got a merch store now, we
don't know, know, whether that's the too much.
We don't, we don't the way too much effort for the For all the
four people that listen, Richie soon.
A canned Sandy. Sandy, our baby.
Listen, again, Sandy, we haven't talked to him in a while.
How's your eyes and get hop fan? I've seen it.
I've seen it as a big stack. Get on with it.
Crack on, stop laughing these anyway.
Yeah. Big South.
My parents literally dropped us off and under the top.
Unbelievable. Yeah, this is where podcast
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Let's get into this. We've been, we've been talking
for a long time now. So I'm going to we're going to
play the jingle again and we're going to get into our discussion
which we actually put on our Instagram.
So the people decide Hayden. What we talk about let's get
going. Okay, so we put a pull-out on
Instagram. That's the place to be guys
because we like to do Paul's, we like to get your opinions.
We like to get your stories and one of the most recent ones we
did was just to give you a choice to talk.
We talked about in the pot because we are lots of ideas but
sometimes we just don't know which one to go for and this
week, you have voted for us to talk about homework.
So we're going to get into a bit of a debate here.
Well, more of a discussion I suppose because actually between
Ada and I we haven't really spoken about this much together
and explore each other's ideas. So this would be really
arresting for us and hopefully you guys can get in touch and
let us know exactly what you think about the idea of
homework, especially in primary school.
So, we know homeworks, a huge thing as children get older as
they become more, independent learners, but I'm just going to
ask you straight out Paden. Do you think primary school
should set homework? Two children.
Oh, what a loaded question? I was even an even then I was
just thinking about this whole situation and what's the best
way to explain it like my core? Teacher honestly says no like
overall. It's like an overall.
No, but it's not just a simple as like a blanket.
No. Because I think there are plenty
of Children and Families who greatly appreciate homework, and
it goes a long way for that. Child, that child will actually
enjoy doing the homework because they really, really want to
develop, you know, certain knowledge or whatever.
But I also think the majority of children It's not actually it's
not a positive experience at all.
I think the cons outweigh the pros for most children.
That's kind of my instant gut feeling.
Maybe I can go into more detail in a minute.
I don't know what wash wash your thoughts on it.
I'm actually quite happy because we certainly aren't as closely
aligned as we normally are on this topic.
Okay. Okay.
Because again, there's nuances and this is the problem with
polarized debate. Always in everything.
Isn't it where you have to pick a side?
And if I had to pick a side, I would say that we should set
homework, right? Okay.
Because I did ask it in a specific way as well which might
draw out more of a conversation in terms of should schools set
homework. I think it's a very different
conversation to should schools punish children for not doing
homework. A should schools have certain
expectations for homework, etc, etc.
I think scores we absolutely need to set homework.
The Sip, the simple reason is there are a lot of things that
we, as teachers can deliver in an hour-long lesson.
In a discrete lesson. Where, for example, in maths, we
might teach them over a couple of days, how to do short
multiplication, how to find a fraction of that amount right.
For example, or in history, we might we might teach them.
Look at some sources primary sources, secondary sources about
certain invasions of Britain, Etc.
I think we can teach them that really well, and to seek the in
an hour or an hour and a half. I think the biggest problem that
we have with other types of learning as we can't do that.
For example, things that come to my head straight away, Of times
tables. We can't just teach times
tables, we can't teach children how to memorize their times
tables. In an hour-long lesson, we can
do times table lessons, where we practice and teach techniques.
But you have to practice them, constantly has to be like a drip
fed thing and we don't have that ability as teachers to do that
constantly. And also reading, you know,
we're teaching lessons actually, the act of just reading out loud
with 32 children in our class, that's impossible for us to
listen to the children. Read as much as is required, so
there has to be a level of expectation.
And or maybe the word is recommendation and this is where
it gets tricky because there'll be lots of people say no, no,
this should be an expectation, you absolutely have to do this
in the same way that you absolutely have to come to
school and you absolutely have to have the curriculum talk to
you. We say that.
And some people extrapolate that to homework and say no no, you
have to do this, you have to read this, you have to do that.
There's this is where I kind of sway to the other side because
I'm not comfortable, always as a professional telling people what
they have to do at home and so certain children might have
certain barriers or it might be a real slog for some parents to
get some children to do certain things, for whatever reason, but
I think we could, we can set really clear expectations and
really clear reasons why something should happen and
facilitate that and give give options for that to happen.
For example, at home times table rock stars get a subscription
for the children. Have a huge library with access
to lots of different books that are at the appropriate level.
I think as schools we need to facilitate that but there is
this just Middle Ground. Break ground where there's
actually a lot of disagreement in education, isn't there?
Yeah, I think until you said reading and times tables, I
think I was kind of streamlining, my idea of
homework to the stuff beyond that, like extra, like
worksheets or like workbooks, and things that sometimes
schools will set. Because now you said that I'm
sort of, I'm not necessarily changing my opinion, but I'm
just adding more to it like an F.
Another layer, of thought, layer of thought because, yeah,
reading I'm sort of like, actually, I do expect that to be
done. I genuinely do Do expect reading
to be done because the correlation of the studies show
that the correlation between reading and general academic
achievement is undeniable like undeniable.
It's so so well correlated. So it's like yeah, of course you
need to read with your child as much as possible and times.
Tables is again, you're right, you know, it would be a really
big waste of time if we spent all that time at school doing
it. So yeah, you kind of do need to
practice them at home because they have sort of a fundamental
foundation for a lot of areas of mass.
Yeah, you do need to learn them but I think that's where it
stops me but perhaps and maybe I'm just of in the middle
because after that I just don't think we need to set any more
homework. I don't think we should.
I'm sort of act. I actively encourage not setting
any more homework than the those to sort of really essential
foundations. And I think Mike the core
reasoning for that is because I think schools, long enough
already, I think there is a, there should be a limit to how
much time children spend of their life learning and doing,
you know, education and and I feel like we're already at that
limit, you know, there's a, we spent the children spend so much
of their life in education, they need down time.
They need to go and have fun explore the world to go and do
whatever they like, doing their hobbies and things like that.
I think that's so important. So, the big, big Convoy homework
for me, you know, homework, that was beyond those kind of the
reading and the times tables is it takes away from that time and
the majority of children are certainly from my experience, do
not want to do that. They resent it, they end up then
disliking School, Because oh it's that.
It's that annoying place that makes me stop playing with my
friends outside or going on my Xbox or do whatever they want to
do in their free time. I hate school now because they
make me do this homework and then when I don't do it, I'll
get in trouble. Which I like you said, open up a
hole, opens up a whole nother conversation of should children
be punished or in trouble, to any capacity for not completing
homework. Let's think of like a
seven-year-old. For example, wash wash your
feet. I can ask you a question.
Now, you're there, say you're in year 3 classroom, right?
You got a seven-year-old and you set them.
Let's start it. Start here.
Let's start with reading and times tables so you haven't set
them anything additional. You've asked them to read three
times a week. Let's say, Ten minutes of time,
minimum and you've asked them to spend 10 minutes.
Practicing their times tables and they come into school next
week, they haven't done it. What do you think you do?
And also, what do you think? The kind of General consensus is
what how we should approach that situation, as educational staff.
So, the first, the first question I always ask myself, is
why we setting homework. That's the first question when
I'm trying to reason what to do, right?
And in this situation, we are setting kind of like a minimum
expectation, right? Of.
I don't think there's a single school who doesn't expect
children to read it home and then the times tables.
So with the context of it's the minimum expectation.
Why are we why we setting this? It's for their academic
achievement. Okay, that's the reason why?
Because we know it's proven that if they practice these things,
they will have a boost academically, which is our goal
was teachers, one of our main goals.
So, my opinion and that is you the end goal has to be to find
time for the children to do those things.
Okay, I did not want to characterize it as punishment.
That's what I would have wild really avoid.
Because truthfully, how much control did that seven-year-old?
Have in doing their homework or not at home?
I don't know. And we'll never truly know.
Yeah. Okay.
We don't know whether it was because the parents said, oh,
you don't have to do that. Don't worry about it or maybe
the parents have battled massively to try and get them to
do it. And it was a huge thing and it
ruined family weekend because the child just did want to do
it. I don't know.
And honestly that's irrelevant to me.
Because, actually, I want them to do 30 minutes of reading the
week minimum and I want them to do 10 minutes or times
hairdresser practice all week minimum.
So my thought there is cool. I'm going to facilitate that
time somewhere in the school day.
Now this is where the gray area comes in because there's no time
in the school day. So when do you do that?
Do you do 10 minutes at lunch time when they can be out,
plague playing on the playground?
Do you determine? It's an assembly time when they
when you actually might want to be doing something else and
another intervention group that you've got the or do you do in
the morning before? In, you know, in that free time
maybe where they come in and do some reading, actually, you're
going to go and listen to them actively read at that point
because we do have reading built-in at school, don't we?
Yeah. But the overall thing I'll say
for that is I think you have to go back to why you're setting
homework. I don't think we're the seven,
eight, nine year old or Primary School in general.
We're not setting homework to teach responsibility as much
yet. We're setting these foundations
because they're critical to their education.
So I think you have to find the time to fill that in.
I wanted to come on a point that you just said, A minute ago
because I'm interested to see if you would stick with what you
said, or maybe re-define what you said.
Because it was really interesting to me about how
you're saying we're kind of maxed out on the child's
education. Like, in terms of the amount of
time they spend in school and it's taken away from their other
stuff. But I would just add to that.
Maybe like extrapolate, see what you think is actually, we're not
because children are always learning, they're always been
educated, right? If they're on a nature walk, for
example, on a Afternoon. Yeah, and the mum goes, oh my
goodness. Homeworks due tomorrow.
We haven't done that time. Stable practice, that we said we
do. Yeah, it is cutting short that
nature walk which the child might love.
Like you said, you loved going outside last week doing some
drawings learning about birds. The different different fauna
that they can see. And having that kind of
enrichment, is still education. I don't think there is a limit
for Education. Yeah, and I'm sure that's what
you meant, but you can clarify in a second but there's no limit
on education. But I think maybe what we can
clarify is a bit that, you know, I don't think we need to intrude
so much on that home life, and that home experience.
And they've got dance class that evening or they've got this.
And if it comes to the detriment of that, then it starts becoming
a problem. I think I.
Yeah, for us to redefine it. I'm talking about prescribed,
learning management, education, mandatory academic studies.
You know, I mean, maths English topic.
Those things I think, you know, the children to have a choice.
They that if they enjoy or not a nature walk they're probably you
know they're going to nature walk and learning, they probably
enjoying it and it's passive learning.
Yeah, sitting down doing the times.
Tables is not passive learning, it's active prescribed work to
do is I guess. Yeah that's that's probably
quite important to redefine that I think what what links into
that really nicely and maybe we could talk about this is
actually also, is there a problem with the school
celebrating and giving options for further homework given the
choice? And I don't think there is and I
think about those projects we talked about that, we did it.
When we were primary school children, we talked about last
time in our Primary School memories that we loved and
there's certain for Zamp alive. I know in every school I've
worked in there's always been termly or monthly or projects
that the child has freedom to do.
There's no expectation to do it. They can take it as far as they
want, but they bring it in at the end and then they show it to
the class. And I think that's fantastic as
well because I think it's what we can do.
As a school is facilitate and advise on minimum expectations
for an academic point of view. But also why not celebrate
someone going above and beyond in a different aspect?
Yeah, I guess you just have to be really careful not to Any
kind of like passive aggression or petrol, like, making children
that haven't done that thing actually feel like bad like
worse, you know? I mean, it has to stick as a
positive reinforcement thing. I've like, wow, these children
doing great and you could get there as well.
And that would be awesome as well.
Rather than like these children doing great look.
How terrible you are with showing you this because you're
so bad and you need to be like this.
It's not good enough but I think there's those you have to be
really careful. I think with that sort of system
not to do that as you just a personal question like with in
your Teaching career. Have you ever got cross at
someone for not doing the homework, only only when we've
had a very specific conversation and they promised me that they
do something, right, right. And they're not even, you know,
not even cross honest. Truly as a teacher and whether,
you know, whether you have to separate yourself.
And just think my goal for you is that you are doing this
homework, because I want you to progress the times tables are
tailored to exactly. Need the readings, exactly your
level. And I know if you do this, that
you'll progress. So when you say Cross or maybe
I'll get frustrated and think, oh, if you just, if you just
would do this more often, I think it would help you.
Like, you know, I want to help you like, let's just, let's do
this. I think the only time I've ever
and, of course, you'll say to the children, how much really
important. And I'd really like you to do
this and the fact you haven't done this, it does frustrate me
because you said to me last week that you would definitely do it
this week and I believed you and and then you haven't done it.
And I'm just wondering why maybe, and then you can kind of
go from there and I think that's completely legitimate because
that's almost a different level of, you know, giving someone
your word and just teaching them that that's quite important
things to try and uphold. But in terms of, when you look
at Homework not being done and you what you normally see as a
teacher is patterns, you see patterns of homework, not being
done. It's not as if every week
there's three different people who haven't done the homework.
Yeah, you're always going to get children who are in that
routine, and always did our homework because they love it.
Maybe a naked and take themselves off and do it
themselves. You're always going to get the
other children who may be put up a battle or don't have as much
support in terms of, you know, a parental figure saying we have
to do this and forcing it. It, you see a pattern.
So actually, what's the point of getting angry at children who
are in that pattern? It's been two and a half years.
They're not going to suddenly start if you have a go at them.
Yeah, so yeah, it's all about what you trying to get out of it
and trying to get the children to do this thing because it
makes progress and it helps them academically, that's the end of
it. So, what I'm going to do is a
teacher is thankful for everyone who does it home and big them up
and say Well done. But then facilitate as much as
possible, the children who aren't doing it a chance to do
it because I don't want them to do homework.
So I can shout a moment them. I want them to do homework so
that they make progress progress.
Yeah. That's absolutely right.
I think there's a kind of maybe I subliminally.
Think this by. I'm trying to bring it to the
Forefront of my mind right now but I think in any given
situation like you said there's so many different situations in
which child may or may not have done homework, right?
So many different situations very unique to each Each person
if there is going to be a net loss in their enjoyment for
educational school, in what you're about to do or say to
them, don't do it. I think that's the generally,
how I approach it, you know, their Arch.
I will purchase so differently. If I, you know, I've had a few
grounding experiences over the years, for example, I can think
of one. It's happened a few times, it's
probably something people can relate to because, you know,
over the years it's just a bit of a stereotype that sometimes
children fall into. So I've taught the classic
Child, who is actually quite quite bright quite intelligent
and will, you know, Ace tests and things like that.
But never ever, ever has I read a record signed but I know they
read Because when it comes quite reading time that, you know,
beer in the book, every now and then I'll Monitor and be like,
okay, they're on a different book.
Now there are different, but again, so they clearly reading
but they never get their reading records.
Signed a reading records are really classic thing in primary
schools, like most schools do use some sort of reading record,
whether it's paper or digital and, you know, the guy Of pot.
The policy of the school will be, all you need to read a
record sign. A set amount of time to prove
that you've done the minimum amount of homework.
And if you don't there might be some sort of punishment or like
you said, there might be a more positive reinforcement kind of
just facilitating of time to do it, but I just remember just one
time, you know, I was just going down that sort of robot root of.
This is the rules. You must do the rules and and
ideas or banded, two children together and it wasn't until I
put them together. Look that situations whereas
realize they're completely completely separate.
Neither of them, had their reading record, Signed one of
them reads all the time, their parent, just never signs.
It just never signs it. And I was like, you know what,
that is not your fault. How is that the fault of the
child? They're reading their book that,
you know, whatever. I'm not going to delve into
their home life. I was just happy and I left them
alone for the rest of the day. I like hope you're reading,
you're making progress at school, not going to bother you
and then there's the other child who, you know, who might lie
every single week. I couldn't read this week's.
I had a football match on. It's like really.
It's 10 minutes left and I couldn't do that on my parents
said that I wasn't allowed to say, well no, you're just making
it up by now. As I spoke to parent last week
and they said, you know, you had a big party and he wouldn't do
it. So you got those two completely
different children and it really grounded me because it made me
not just jump into, this is rules.
You have broken the rules. Now you're in trouble, that
wouldn't have been fair. I don't think for the first
child know it and and it goes back to what we said.
Right. Why do we set homework?
I think if you ask yourself that question every single time
you're about to deal with something like this, I think it
will help you in what you then do as a reaction because the
reason we set homework is so that children Get this extra
basic help of something which is better off being drip fed over
time. Yeah.
Even even down to something like there are certain objectives in
the curriculum which I think are suited to be being taught at
home, right? Not just the basics you know,
times tables and reading which are so obvious things like
telling the time. Yeah, I think that telling the
time on an analog clock is something which has way more
power in being taught constantly constantly constantly through
today. Are what time is it?
You know, if you're doing Aussie kid, a quarter past.
What's the time now? Oh, it's quarter past, what do
you think it might be? If it's there, you know, that
kind of, that kind of learning it fits the drip feed method,
the constant method times table. Certainly does reading certainly
does and they'll be some things on the curriculum where I'm
stood, there delivering an hour-long lesson.
There's no way you can teach your child, how to read a clock
in one-hour. It's absolutely impossible
because what we'll see as well is you no matter what class you
have, there will be the biggest range of ability ever when you
come to teach that lesson because some children might have
been bought at watch from There were five years old and just
happen to have picked up some children, only ever go in their
iPad and they say digital clock. Never got no idea what the hands
mean because it's just not been taught.
That's, that is an example there of, actually, what do we want
for the children, we want them to progress, academically and
learn things. What's the best way of that
happening? While 4-times tables are
reading? It certainly is doing at home
constantly as much as possible. There's a discussion to have
like there's other things that are more beneficial to be taught
at home. Yeah, another one I can think of
is measurement in context. So things like money, but also
things like just distances and wait and things.
I feel like they lend themselves so much to just real life
examples, rather than reading the map of a book or reading a
definition of how long, how long a kilometer is.
It's like, yeah. What does that mean?
Sure, can't cook can't conceive that.
But if you go on a drive or a walk, you can show them your
car. You know.
It tips over even on the mile. Yeah.
But oh look, this is five miles. We've driven five miles.
That's very different to yesterday.
Isn't it? Where we drove one?
While and they can kind of start building up those things.
I think it's because it's really interesting because we've talked
about it, haven't we? And obviously, in our position
as leading maths in a school, we've talked about this before,
and we just thought, okay, well, how can we address this with our
view of homework, which is obviously, I'm sure you picked
up of almost skepticism of trying to push it too far.
We don't want to do that. But actually, you know, how can
we as school lead like as as academic as teachers.
Sorry, how can we facilitate it? I think that's really key for me
personally. But, you know, facilitating this
learning should someone want to take out with them at home and,
you know, giving giving options for little projects giving
options. For, you know, down that except
for measurement is perfect for baking.
Just sending a letter home, you know and saying, oh, why don't
you try this out this time? If you want to give them a cheap
option, given an option that might cost a bit more money, but
maybe the parents want to try that out.
And just being inclusive giving expert advice, but not piling
the pressure. Iran.
Yeah, because I just think it's counterproductive.
Yeah, I agree. I think sending out five
worksheets across the term that raw like word problems.
With measurements in them is objectively worse than sending
out a little project and being like, hey, go, I'll optional
project to do at home. Here's that.
Here's an ingredients list here. So, you know, a couple of
recipes you could do and can, you know, if you want to
facilitate this learning experience for child, L
understood by the end of it, they'll understand these things.
You know, I do agree. There's more fun ways to
approach, that sort of stuff, because I've heard of schools,
Like primary schools, which I always find hard to believe.
I've heard of so many primary schools in our country that
genuinely set homework. Like two, three, four or five
times a week. And I'm talking worksheets like
it typically, maths is the one that will go home and be like a
mass worksheet, very Less in the goes home.
It's like five questions to do at home based on the learning
and I just I just yeah I just think that's so much and for
some children are loved it and ironically they'll probably be
the ones that are higher Achievers.
Anyway and the children that really really struggle with
mass. Well, hey, Every single minute
of that majority of them, some parents were really supportive
and they're below. Thank you, because I can help my
kids really behind a mass. And this will help me, but I do
think the majority. I just not going to be in that
situation. It's almost as local what you
always say. And it's such a cop-out but
hopefully having listened to our conversation about it.
People understand what we mean when we say there is no one
answer. As always you know, every single
situation is different and I think that's why I feel like
we're living in a culture lately where You kind of have to pick a
side almost and, and it's just nice to have a proper talk about
it because if you, if this was a scale of 0 to 10, neither of us
are at zero or 10, not quite clearly and it's nuanced.
There's lots of layers to it. And yeah, I actually really
enjoyed that. And I'd be really, really
interested. But go on now just because I
think if we pulled it back around to the original question,
I reckon we could answer a bit more succinctly now in this idea
of should schools set mandatory homework, you know, that
children must complete overall. There's a sort of punishment
Loved, you know, that's kind of the original question and I
think that you said there's a big Spectrum, so that I think
the ultimate answer for me is still, no, I don't think they
should set it and the art and the kind of solution.
But I think has come from this is, but there should still be
some optional activities and ways that we can facilitate that
learning at home. Should they want to so that
people don't miss out. It's, it's interesting because
I'm going to say now. My answer is still yes.
Yeah, I would say it's good. It's interesting because so that
exact question. Should they set?
It and, and I think it should be said, as man.
Yeah, it's really interesting because I'd still be like, yes,
but for very certain foundational things.
And I think that's where the, but always has to come in.
Because if someone heard you just say, no, I can imagine some
parents. What, what, what do you mean,
though? That, of course, it's good to
practice. And if some people had me to
say, yes, I've got our here we go.
And then a teacher, trying to take over our weekend with all
the homework. Yeah.
So that's really interesting. I enjoyed that a lot.
I know what I do want to do because something we lack Caden
clearly Is the parent point of view.
I'd be very, very, very interested of any you guys
listening. If you've had children, who went
to school, you've got children currently now who are in school.
Can you talk to us? And tell us your opinion about
homework will share someone on Instagram but it'd be really
interesting for Aiden Hayden and I to get that point of view from
from home because I think we could probably predict what
people say that before engaged as always.
But maybe you've got some specific stories and we want to
hear your insights. So you know either email us or
get in touch and Instagram with left here.
So, moving on later in the podcast, Dylan's got a new
segment for us. I have no idea.
What is so excited to find out that we've also got a funny
story to finish off with at the end but Dylan, I did want to
just jump in with something because I couldn't resist that
toxicity. You know, when you see it.
Yeah, I just want to talk about it and then and moan and it
really hurts back what I saw to what we talked about in our last
episode. So I'm just going to read parts
of this post. I saw on a forum to you and then
we can just have a quick discussion.
All right. Yep.
So this person. Said that 50 years old,
unblemished teaching career being in the career, you know,
the whole time, classic classic, just career teacher being a
little bit ill recently returned to work and the head teacher
said to them, this is quote quotations.
Think about a fresh start? A new school due to the
disruption caused by your absence.
What? Okay, so obviously got this
person's back up immediately. Like what?
What a thing to say. So now this person has been put
on a support plan. The thing we discussed last time
that's the solution to this. Okay, you're on a support plan
now. Apparently that's what it means
when they don't want because she was Ill.
Yeah, she was there. She was off school and the
headteacher to do 42y. Well I mean I don't know there
might be some layers, we don't understand here, but it sounds
like the court that the context is person is giving is the head
teacher has now decided that you should go and work somewhere
else, the solution to that is to put you on a support plan.
I think are two very different things.
It's just that classic example, again of a support plans being
used to just get rid of a teacher, you know, I mean it's
not being used to support a teacher, it's being used to get
rid of you. This is exactly what we said the
other day and you know, I think sometimes we can maybe feel like
we're retreating into our little hole of opinions, right.
And you know, it's a we're gonna go on our podcast and say our
opinions on things but this is true clearly we can see that.
Like it's not an opinion. This is what happens and we
spoke about it. The you go on a support plan and
there. Is no guarantee that it's
because they care about supporting you.
There is a very very big chance that they're just nibbling away.
Yeah. Trying to make you feel rubbish,
which is which is working. And this person is really gutted
because they sort of finished I post by saying I really want to
fight for myself and other people in these kind of unfair
circumstances. And they said I'm genuinely not
a poor teacher as you know as much as this support plan
capability thing. So Jess and just ask this
question is how can this happen? Why ahead teachers able to play
tonight? Disregard employment law using
made up capability, that's completely subjective, which is
something I know we've briefly discussed before, as well.
This whole idea of it is subjective.
One head teacher might judge you as our, why your outstanding,
you're an incredible teacher. And another head teacher might
not and the teacher that might not now.
Has the power today to just ruin your career.
Is that what we're saying? We're happy with that system
only that, that head teacher can just ruin it for you to know.
I've just seems fishy to me and I still don't understand, maybe
it should be Cuz when I evil, we just don't know, we're not
involved, but who's keeping these people accountable?
Because you just hear so many stories, don't you?
Mmm. Of these certain people who have
the power who are in charge who are doing this as a pattern over
years and years and years and because staff turnover.
So high in these places, you know what, five six, seven years
down the line people have forgotten, mmm, because they've
moved on to another thing that we've done.
We've done so yet, they weren't there when actually happened
before, and that must be part of the plan, and it's just his
honesty. If you, if you're looking at a
school I promise you, the number one thing you should look at is
pretension. Look at the retention of Staff.
Because teachers on the whole are actually hugely loyal,
they're hugely loyal, they have children in their school.
They really care about families. They've worked with staff
members. Who are, you know, the glue that
keeps so many schools ticking over.
Because, the camaraderie and the friendship, it moving school is
a A big decision. It's a huge decision.
How many times have we heard? Teachers say, oh, that's it.
This is my, like, I can't work here anymore.
And then they do one more year, two more years, three more
years. If a school has a high turnover
rate percentage, you can add a big chunk on it of teachers who
want to leave as well, but couldn't find a job or just at
the last minute. Thought now, it's easier just to
get my head down. Yeah, because I tell you now
that is the biggest indicator for me for a quality or a school
that you just don't want to be in a red flag of her stuff.
Yeah, if I will jump in, As well because there's another
perspective of that, which is, it's not all.
It's mostly a red flag, but I have also seen situations where
a school has had the same stuff for a long time.
Then perhaps like the head teacher leaves and because,
because, like you said, people could be really loyal.
You do. Sometimes find though that when
a head teacher leaves, the start of some of the staff kind of
leave as well. Because there was a really loyal
and really stuck in their ways of that particular head teacher
when a new head teacher comes in, that might not intrinsically
be bad or you know like toxic and anyway, they're just a bit
different. I've got their own stamp on
things, new ideas. Sometimes I'd have noticed that
that that can cause a bit of a big staff turn around as well,
but I think we are right in terms of the big red flag.
For me is if that consistently happens for the next 10 years
and every year there's a huge turnover of Staff just
constantly and it's the same head teacher, same SLT.
It's like probably a bit of a red flag, but that might not be
the best or positive place to workout.
Not guaranteed. Hey, it's at, it's just a fly.
It turns out after what we just said about homework, there's
Nuance to this. But that's what I wanted to talk
about with that bit, you know. It's just a, it was just a
little thing. It we mentioned it last podcast.
I thought, hey, go, there's a bit of proof that we weren't
just like you said, making up our own little world, it does
happen, and it's such a shame. But talkative, making up your
own little world. Welcome to my next segment.
Like just yeah. Now this this was inspired by by
a picture. I said I guess it's a meme I
guess it's just online but and I find myself going down these
rabbit holes and this was relevant to teaching and I just
thought it's really fun. Any because we've totally spoken
about this before, but the theme here is just hilarious test
answers or just children putting down something funny.
Okay. Yeah.
And I'm going to start it off by just reading out the sheet that
I found which inspired this. So I'm going to what this she
is. There's two parts to this
segment. Number one, I'll explain in a
second. The number to a test questions
that I'm going to test you on, okay?
And I'll tell you the real answer which is what the kid
put, okay. So the first part of this, this
is a list of sayings like idioms that we have okay.
And The child was given the start and then had to finish it
off. All right, so I'm going to give
you the start of an idiom, okay? And then we're going to compare
it to what the child said, so you're going to try and finish
it off for me. Then I'm going to tell you you
were right or wrong, based on the child, being the teacher
rather child of Marcus pose me. Now, I'm going to get the same
answers as the children. Yeah.
For example, they start off here all work and no play makes Jack
Sad. Happy apparently according to
okay. So we're going to do once like
that. I'm going to read them out to
you and then we're going to find out what the true answer is,
right? Got you, got you okay, number
one. Okay, don't bite the hand.
That feeds. You don't buy that.
No, don't bite the hand. It tastes bad.
Very literal. Yeah.
So we've mine was right by the way.
I don't. I'm not that.
Come on. Okay.
I'll tell you if it's actually
right in the real world. Correct.
Yeah. But the child thought it was
because it tastes bad. Yeah.
Okay. Next one.
Don't look a gift horse. Is that in the face or
something? I don't know what the real one
is. Don't look a gift horse in the
mouth. Okay, this child put don't look
a gift horse to me. All right, nonsense, don't look.
Don't look, stop talks to me when the cat's away.
God, I don't know these idioms I don't know them when the cat's
away. Don't sleep in its bed.
I'm trying to be on the child level.
Now, what do they but when the cat's away you will pay.
Oh, that's that's ominous scary. Openness, that's what you should
get this one. I hope people in glass houses
shouldn't throw stones. Correct.
Yeah. However, the right answer is our
Rich. It's so true like that.
It's nailed that one. Glass houses houses already.
I thought was gonna be a literal.
One. Like people in glass, houses can
see everywhere. Thanks Rob.
If at first you don't succeed try again or try and try again.
Whatever is not calling to this child stop.
That's like Michael Scott from the office to get the quote
wrong. That's so good.
It's the first you don't succeed.
Stop stop. You can't do it.
You got it. That's pretty good.
Next one. This is one of my favorite ones.
Don't count your chickens. I can't remember.
They're going, what are they? But don't count your chickens
because they need privacy. So, this is what the children
was their task. To actually try and finish the
idiom like trying to work out. What's the finish?
The idiom off so that they were given what I've given you and
they had to write out the rest. Yeah, I mean, that's pretty,
that's hilarious. That's what I feel like we
should do that. Task just gonna be funny.
I think we should and I really want really want to do this.
You know what, the real one is flow on.
Don't care of chickens. Don't count your chickens before
they hatch or something, okay? Yeah like because, you know,
they might not as a quite old phrases.
That don't put Hayden. Please don't expose me and my
lack of any exposing new. Next one, do, All your eggs in
one basket. Yeah but according to this child
don't put all your eggs in there.
That would say that was saying, you said, double your internet
site, for your eggs in there. Yeah.
Okay. And the last one.
Again, it's all right, okay? It's all fun and games until
it's all fun and games until my God, what is it?
Someone gets hurt or something like that.
I can't remember until Darth Vader.
Come true place in Rogue one. Oh man.
I just thought it was so brilliant because some of them
make sense but ah, don't count your chickens because they lead
privacy that last one though that last one is like perfect.
Depiction of child's imagination of.
What I love about children's imaginations.
It's just they just lacked really that kid, obviously to
watch that film and loves that. At that time, I was like, that's
a thing. Everyone will know what I mean.
Here. That shows a good understanding
of like what they're saying. Means really, it's like so
funny. Something awful happens.
Well, yeah, the fade is here like that, who's enjoying that,
what's more? It was the most awesome saw
something that can happen Darth Vader, right?
So off the back of that, I've gone away and I found some
questions. Yeah.
Okay. With some child answers at the
bottom. Okay.
It's going to read through some of my favorite ones.
Join our answer. Then, why don't we just go
straighten? It depends, if you think I'm
going to embarrass myself or not, okay, I think you should
try and answer them because if you do it by yourself even
better, where was the American Declaration of Independence
signed? Washington.
D.c. I presume at the bottom.
Oh God, I should have gone for that.
There's a safe answer. Good.
Okay, this is from an art lesson, yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
What is your favorite Hue? As in that favorite color?
I red blue. That's a No-No Jackman.
Hugh Jackman. Oh good, good, good.
It was supposed to be color, obviously, Hua.
Yeah, okay, buddy. Next one.
A long one. Here a displaces are prepared
slide on her microscope but when she looks into it she can't see
anything suggest one reason why not There's a cap on the bottom
of the micro, the microscope or something.
She's blind. Oh my God.
That's totally. I mean, he's not wrong.
I believe it's not wrong. Is it?
It's just like factual, could she see it?
That's like, that's that honestly.
Sounds like a setup to like one of those that just like a pub
joke. You know, I mean what you just
really blunt at the end, you know, it's like so and so walks
into a bar, get those classic jokes and it's just Always a
silly couch. Okay.
Next song, I want you to do this.
I'd always this genuinely, okay? Describe yourself in three
words. Oh wow.
Okay that's L3. Well done.
They put I am a rebel. That's brilliant.
What because their rebellious I get it now, right?
You look at it then I couldn't count to 4 that would.
Please us have accounted for, I get it.
You thought the joke? There was just that they
couldn't get it right steeper. It was way deeper than that.
I'm a rebel I've written for words.
I get it. Exactly clever.
Right. So next one, Name six animals,
which live specifically in the Arctic so I can't be bothered go
on to polar bears and for Silas a clever answer.
The best thing about this was they'd written three seals
across that three. What I mean, again wrong, I
don't think so. Not really.
I wonder how many people have actually who are listening to
this at this very point in the podcast have listened to every
single episode. Hmm, I want to do a little test
if you've listened to every single episode and you've got
this far in this episode because We're near the end.
Now I want you to go to our Instagram, send us a message and
I want you to do an emoji of Hayden.
You can pick what random Emoji, should they send us?
And it's like code for, they know exactly what we're talking
about, how our even further. It's just it's an emoji that
only makes sense to us because they've listened to the
vodcasts. So something that we all, we'll
know, they'll know. We all know because we've
listened to the podcast but it wouldn't really make sense to
anyone else. Like they would just think it
was a random Emoji. Okay.
So they need to think of their one of the moments from the
podcast that listen to yeah, summarize it Oh gee, send it to
us. And then we can try and guess
which part of the upper fun game.
I like that. Yeah, let's do that.
Okay, cool. Rishi, I know you're watching
me. You send me one of those water
ones for your little pool. You got in your garden.
So just before we wrap up this podcast, Dylan earlier on, you
mentioned, like camaraderie at schools and how that helps
retention and all that. And it got me thinking about our
camaraderie and let me yeah yeah I mean you mean you and people
in general I guess but me and you for this story and I want to
finish with like the funny. Story segment so it just has my
look more like a corporate relationship.
Oh a business kind of work in business relationship, like a
transactional. Well, this week has proved that
because you and answer any of my messages in the things, you
suggest that I'm sorry, I don't think this truly, it's a true
Bromance. So I was thinking back to, you
know, our career because we spent a lot of time together at
schools, and there's just one thing I remember, which is where
you've come up with some funny names for me, right.
You know, we in you a chatting about it and we were laughing
because you were Kind of rhyming characters names but making
about my baldness which is all you know a good laugh.
So here is here are two things that two names at Dylan's, come
up with right and these two names, I've actually then just
like you know, if you've listened to our earlier
episodes, you'll know that we just try to teach the kids about
humility and just having a bit of fun and learning to just take
the mick out of yourself a little bit every now and then
not being so hard up about everything.
So I said to my class is that, right?
Mr. Pryce has come up with two names.
I need you to vote on what the best nickname for me is and the
two names were Lord Voldemort and the other one, the classic.
Yeah. Lord Baltimore and Goldilocks
and the three hairs. So, I presented that to my
class, I don't know what you, you know, how I think about
home, because I think there's a clear winner then we'll do a
vote, will do a vote because we said, we said straight away and
from me, my point of view because I came up with them, I
was so much more proud of one of them.
Yeah. Like and I think it's quite
clear, that Lord Voldemort is quite lazy like, because yeah.
Voldemort is. Yeah, bold and it rhymes with
bold bold but when I bowled a locks in the street yet, it's so
so happy. And so the kids though, late
that I agree, by the way, bold locks on the three hairs is
genius. Got the double rhyming in there?
It's really clever. But yeah, the kids love Lord
Baltimore. I think it's just more.
It's Harry Potter. You know, they can just relate
to and it's just funny to say so a quick story for you, Dylan,
okay? This week, I had a text message
from someone. I know you're not Super close.
But just I just know this person, and they messaged me
saying that they were out and about in town and in a fish and
chip shop bumped into a family, they sort of know as well.
So just a classic like bit of chitchat and they are with their
their child, right? And just make it a bit of small
talk that my friend personal message me said to the child.
Oh yeah, so what you do is you go to the way to go to school
buddy, buddy to the what sort of stuff and turns out they go to
the school, I work in it, turns out there is I class as well.
No and and he said oh do you know mr.
Stevens then and this child said yeah, that's my teacher but we
all call him Lord Voldemort my friend just text me.
This obviously in stitches like what on Earth are you doing with
these kids? Why are they calling you Lord
Voldemort? Yeah fully it fully exposed me
telling myself around me. Yeah.
How much do you regret that other than are not at all?
Not at all because to me I was like, all right, I'll get my
revenge. Don't It will have a good laugh
about it. And that's why that's why I
love, you know, again going back to teaching.
I love that song about teaching. I'll have us properly.
We will on Monday next week. I'll mention that and I'll do
the whole like pretending to be annoyed thing.
Build it up and we'll have such a good laugh over that moment.
And, you know, hopefully be something memorable but I just
thought was funny out how your silly names of got to the point
where a child a fish and chip shop refers to me as Lord
Baltimore to strangers. It did make me think about other
stuff we've done. So I know there's so much, I
thought I thought up on straight away.
Come on, come on, yeah, go on because it is one my favorite
things I've ever done. But like, like, like just for
the context for everyone who might not know we've we've
worked in schools with each other like across the year.
Sometimes we did, sometimes we didn't, but for like years and
years now and it's just a constant back and forth between
Hayden and I have answer. I get one up on each other, just
constantly constantly trying to undermine each other in front of
other people. It's cool.
But everyone knows. It's a joke like a well-known
thing. And My favorite things like ever
did was I'd borrowed your stapler once because I don't
have like a hand stapler once and you're the guy.
You I know. Yeah, I know you've got it.
So I whenever I want need one I'll come and grab it off you
and I went in to grab it one time and you went in there and I
was like, oh well I really need it and I know where it is.
So I'm just going to go get it out of the drawer.
And what I noticed was Hayden's laptop was open with his
afternoon lesson ready because obviously, you know, we don't
really get time at lunch as we talked about before, so you get
everything ready. As soon as you can, that's one
less thing to think about the smarts ready.
And he was eating his lunch, then the other end of the
school. So I knew for a fact that Haydn
had a picture of himself from a math lesson.
He did ages ago, saved in his computer and it was like, it
wasn't like a, it wasn't inappropriate anything.
It was just like a funny picture of embarrassing.
So what I did yeah, it was in fact was like from when you were
at school, when you had your lovely locks of hair, so what I
did was I got that photo, I want a laptop, I got that photo, and
I was really proud of this. I basically copied it into his
lesson. Add a new slide like my three
down. So that so that what he's
teaching his list he would press this and what I stretch the
photo to fill the frame. So you're already warped your
face was so wide. You can see your hair and your
smile got across other thing. But my most the thing I was most
proud of was that I also put it in again like three slides from
the end because I know Hayden has this kind of idea of just
checking his smiley to make sure nothing's happened to go through
it again. And I just knew that if I put it
in there twice, Again he won't notice it and lo and behold
teaching this lesson you can tell the rest.
That's exactly what happened. I noticed.
The first one I saw it there on the side it was only a few
slides in. I was like classic, they learn,
he's been in here trying to prank me.
Well, played well played but you know I'm not falling for it.
This time, delete the slide and then taught the lesson video
came up again later on it just as full screen image of me, just
looking silly. It was funny, I love do dick
because it was just before your task.
So I really wanted this to happen where you just a try.
Okay, everyone had a really good lesson.
We've learned so much, now's your chance Really show off.
Here's your task for super fucking walk dead.
Yeah it was booked as well. You stretched it another time.
It just you did the he's done this a couple times, right?
And another time this was I think maybe before then, I don't
know. But another time you did it you
just when I went out to breaks Duty and I came back in, I just
literally get in my class to come back in for the next
lesson. You'd been in my classroom,
probably borrowing my stapler, as always.
And I just thought it'd be funny to put a full-screen image just
on the screen there. Someone came back in and it was
all there and the Best bit about this story.
Was it just happened to be the one time that I walked in, with
the deputy head, never ever happens.
Never happens. But a deputy had walked in with
me and obviously, I'm, you're leading with kids in.
He's talking to me as we go in, looks at the board and I wasn't
so. Don't know why?
Because he's a great guy, but a little bit of me was a little
bit like, oh God, I'm worried that he's gonna be like one
Earth are you doing? But he just immediately
immediately said that has been here.
He just knew he knew, it was you I forgot about that because you
can obviously you can freeze your screen.
Yes. When you're teaching us stuff
and multiple times, I've done the same thing where I've just,
I've not put it in your lesson, but I'll just come in freeze
your screen at one time where I tried to hide your remote.
See, you can. Yeah, you did.
I found it in my like you found
it eventually like I knew you'd find it cause she needs to teach
a lesson, but I just thought it'd be funny to send you into a
panic or three minutes. As you guys can tell, I'll be
bringing a support line soon. Because, Dylan tenant has
victimized me at school as another.
Another time here he is years. Ghost turning into like an Agony
Aunt. Yeah, exactly.
I'm gonna realize the end of this, you're not my friend at
all. You're the ones that were called
me. A big forehead at school.
It wasn't a joke. So, back in our early days of
teaching, tenant would quite often walking with his phone up
filming. This is after school.
I way after school with marketing and things at this
point and he had this little stress ball like a little Globe,
I remember it. Well just little squishy thing
and he'd walk in with his phone out film and get like first
person hand there and he'd always try and launch it across
the room. See if he could get me with a
ball. I need such a good shot.
It was so annoying. It was Maybe jump because you
died should be hit with a stress ball.
And he's walk off laughing. I try to always try to get my
revenge on him, go back to his room, phone out, launch the
ball, missing by at 4 meters, just embarrass myself.
So I know, I never quite got your back for that one.
That's where all those years and years of Youth Cricket.
Come in handy, you know, walk of those stumps as your heads much
bigger than a bale, like a Christmas question.
Let's leave that there. You exposed your brain, but
yeah, my head is much bigger than a Christian Bale.
Cricut file, Christian Bale. The only time I've managed to
slightly get you back and I consistently do it is just any
any email that signed off from me and you because we're the
mass coordinate is a school any email, it'll be yeah.
Thank you. No.
Thanks Hayden. And then I'll / and Dylan are
spelled his name wrong and put it in slots, font size for or
something, just so really? Yeah, it's insignificant man.
Who was also did this job with me, the banter?
All right. Anyway, before I get accused of,
you know, workplace Mistress maltreatment of Hayden
maltreatment mystery mad, you know, I need to stop doing this
podcast before we finish gone. It's just, I need to stop trying
to use Fancy with bullying it to my roots, you know, two
syllables maximum, just just get through it easily.
And, you know, I then could challenge for you then to finish
this podcast, one syllable was only please and the podcast,
Dylan off you go, okay, I Would like to say.
Thanks for hear us talk and we will see you next time.
Bye.