1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,300 Hello. Yeah. 2 00:00:04,300 --> 00:00:05,500 Hi. Is this the standards and 3 00:00:05,500 --> 00:00:07,900 testings agency? Yes, that's right. 4 00:00:07,900 --> 00:00:11,300 The STA in charge of making sure the tests are right for you. 5 00:00:11,300 --> 00:00:13,500 How can I help? It's the government, you know, 6 00:00:13,500 --> 00:00:17,300 we gave you 35 million to sort out the key stage 2 tests this 7 00:00:17,300 --> 00:00:20,500 year. Thanks for that five minute, one 8 00:00:20,500 --> 00:00:22,700 second sir. Yeah. 9 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:24,100 Oh yeah we do have that on account. 10 00:00:24,100 --> 00:00:24,700 Sure. Yeah. 11 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:27,300 Do you realize you've made a mistake on the maths paper? 12 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:30,400 But oh, oh, yes, yes, no, we did. 13 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,200 We've got notes here. Actually, we did make a mistake. 14 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,500 That's right. It was actually Phil. 15 00:00:35,900 --> 00:00:40,200 He's a plonker is a plunger. Make sure you are aware. 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,700 We paid you, millions of pounds to check these papers, this 17 00:00:44,700 --> 00:00:45,600 insert. Don't worry about that. 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,200 I would appreciate if you kept your tone civil, okay? 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,400 Because we are trying to explain to you that it was Phil who made 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,100 the mistake and if you'd like to make a complaint that something 21 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:54,300 we can go through with you, no problem. 22 00:00:54,300 --> 00:00:56,400 I'll just have to transfer you through to 70 different people 23 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,500 but don't you worry? Because what we've done to 24 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:02,100 actually fix the mistake for you, it's actually quite clever. 25 00:01:02,300 --> 00:01:06,000 Okay, in the mark scheme, all we've said, is that if the 26 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,800 children actually change the question themselves, cross it 27 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,200 out and put an answer that fits then they're going to get the 28 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,500 mark. So don't worry about that. 29 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:15,400 Sir orbital know what? We obviously we, you know, we 30 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,800 can't obviously change the question. 31 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,500 We've never done that before. No, no sir. 32 00:01:18,500 --> 00:01:20,600 That's absolutely fine. We've taken care of that. 33 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,500 I've actually got another call, so that's all. 34 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:25,600 Thank you so much for your call today and I'll see you next 35 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,000 time. Hey, Charlie. 36 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:30,900 It's still me. It's, you still got me. 37 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,100 Oh, sorry, sir, Justin. I was just saying that by their 38 00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:43,600 see you later. This, this is Hello everyone and 39 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,300 welcome back to another episode of teach sleep. 40 00:01:46,300 --> 00:01:51,000 Repeat, this is episode 16. My name is Dylan and my name is 41 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,600 Hayden and that's get you heard at the start and actual thing 42 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,700 that have well, okay, maybe that didn't actually happen. 43 00:01:57,700 --> 00:02:00,500 That wasn't actually a recording that but wasn't there wasn't 44 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:02,100 mistaken this. No, no, that wasn't actually. 45 00:02:02,100 --> 00:02:03,800 That was, that was something we recreate that. 46 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,900 I know. It's very, very realistic but we 47 00:02:05,900 --> 00:02:08,000 did recreate that. But yeah, Hayden there was 48 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,600 actually well, you can you This is just this is just crazy. 49 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,100 Right there was an actual mistake in the SATs paper. 50 00:02:14,100 --> 00:02:17,100 I was shocked. Not that you know what? 51 00:02:17,100 --> 00:02:18,900 Not really there's been a mistake before a couple years 52 00:02:18,900 --> 00:02:23,500 ago but I'm shot at the fact that they spend so much money on 53 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:25,500 this every year. The only data we have by the way 54 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:28,900 is back from like 2012. That's the last bit of data. 55 00:02:28,900 --> 00:02:31,800 I can find that's a publicly accessible and how much they 56 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,100 spend. And it was 35 million pounds 35 57 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:38,600 million pounds for the standards and testing the standards and 58 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:44,100 testing Agency for the SATs. So the sat-sun for the same 59 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:46,200 time, what you're calling them? The sun, that's passed a budget 60 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,400 for the literal. The Key Safety side /. 61 00:02:49,100 --> 00:02:51,800 So the mistake just so everyone knows the mistake was in the 62 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,000 maths paper and it might sound insignificant to people 63 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,200 listening who are teachers and stuff. 64 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,500 But like you've got to remember how specific we are. 65 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:03,200 And we teach these children vocabulary and maths and how we 66 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,600 look out for these kinds of things. 67 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,800 And the question was, I think it was something Square. 68 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,300 I think was for squared, Or 7 squared something like that, 69 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,100 plus blank squared. So the exponent was written down 70 00:03:17,500 --> 00:03:22,500 blank squared equals an answer and what the children had to 71 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:25,300 realize was that it had to equal 9. 72 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,300 So something squared has to equal 9. 73 00:03:27,300 --> 00:03:30,300 That's what the question was asking, but the question said, 74 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:34,000 write down the square number in the Gap. 75 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:38,200 Now, there's a problem here because nine is three squared 76 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:41,500 and the children had to write down three in the For it to work 77 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,500 three if you're not sure isn't a square number. 78 00:03:45,700 --> 00:03:48,500 So the question saying, write down a square number really 79 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:50,900 through a lot of children off, who were taught to very 80 00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:52,400 carefully. Read the question. 81 00:03:52,700 --> 00:03:56,000 They know it has to add up to answer 9, but there's no number. 82 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,500 That's a square number that we can then Square to get nine as 83 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:01,600 an answer. So this is a mistake on the 84 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,800 paper Hayden. Can you explain what the answer 85 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,900 actual schemes? This is crazy. 86 00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:08,900 And this is what the reason we did this get, by the way, is 87 00:04:08,900 --> 00:04:12,500 because we think they, As this and which will explain the mark 88 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:14,400 scheme. We think they realized to this 89 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,800 maybe in the later stages everything's printed 90 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,399 everything's been sending, you know, sent out or whatever and I 91 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:23,100 can't turn back now because the answer seems scheme says except 92 00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:25,200 three as an answer because obviously that is the actual 93 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,700 answer they were hoping for but because it says, write a square 94 00:04:28,700 --> 00:04:30,900 number there. The answer scheme says, if 95 00:04:30,900 --> 00:04:34,200 they've crossed out the little to Italy, she says that, if 96 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,800 they've if they've crossed out the little too and written nine 97 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,300 there, instead you just give him that as well, they could that 98 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:43,200 they can leave So if they've changed a little question, if 99 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,900 they change the, I love this because if this is going to set 100 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:48,300 a precedent and I'll teach all my children's do this, just 101 00:04:48,300 --> 00:04:52,400 write 0 and change the question. It is 0 plus 0 or 0 squared. 102 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,900 Yeah, or one, take away. One is fine if we change the 103 00:04:54,900 --> 00:04:56,600 question. Good on ya, Lads. 104 00:04:56,700 --> 00:04:58,300 Let's get a Mark, I just couldn't believe. 105 00:04:58,300 --> 00:05:00,100 You know what people listening that aren't in? 106 00:05:00,100 --> 00:05:01,600 The teaching world are probably thinking. 107 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,700 This is pathetic. Like why are these guys even 108 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:05,800 riled up by this? They've just miss the tiniest 109 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,700 thing. But you have to understand. 110 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,300 It's never happened before the children. 111 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,600 Cannot change anything in the paper. 112 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:16,100 And we explicitly. Teach them that. 113 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,000 You cannot change the pay. You can't just cross out part of 114 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,500 the question and then put your own number there. 115 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:23,400 That's not right, but they clearly made a mistake. 116 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,700 There, 1.7 million Budget on writing the papers clearly 117 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,500 wasn't enough to to, you know, to check. 118 00:05:29,500 --> 00:05:32,000 They had to, I did have to write 6 whole papers to be fair that 119 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,300 I'm that's quite a lot and to be honest with you, I think most of 120 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:37,100 the budget went on making the English paper as hard as 121 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:39,000 possible, so we'll let him off this time. 122 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:41,900 That was one thing that happened this week. 123 00:05:41,900 --> 00:05:45,200 Obviously the publication of all the sets papers Hayden, how's 124 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,200 your week, apart from that me, I've been part of it. 125 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,200 You know what? It's be great. 126 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,000 I don't want to go too much detail about, you know, the main 127 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,500 things. And it's also episode the rest 128 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:55,100 of the residential, because I was able talk about that later. 129 00:05:55,300 --> 00:05:57,700 But I got a couple of funny things just to, you know, to 130 00:05:57,700 --> 00:06:00,200 Enlighten you with first things first, you know, I talked about 131 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,800 my bird problem. All right. 132 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,500 Not the problem of all, you know, you know, the women 133 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:06,800 flocking towards me and we call numbers all, you're not using a 134 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,800 derogatory term for what. Huh, I'm not like that. 135 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,400 Oh, About the animal about animals. 136 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,800 I was specifically saying I'm not derogatory like that he 137 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,600 called in the manimals. You disgusting man, get out of 138 00:06:16,608 --> 00:06:19,400 here. So my bird problem right in the, 139 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,800 in the roof someone wrote in and said it was it was Andrew who's 140 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,700 raised fast before he said I had to stop your podcast when I was 141 00:06:28,700 --> 00:06:34,600 cooking my dinner to message you because I have the same problem 142 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,200 I have had for the last two years. 143 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,400 Loads and loads of parakeet. Nesting in the soffits of my 144 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,400 roof and I cannot get rid of them and he went into, great 145 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,900 detail to tell me how originally went up there and, you know, you 146 00:06:47,900 --> 00:06:51,700 just put some like anti nesting stuff up there that you can buy, 147 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,700 didn't do anything. He said, they literally picked 148 00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:55,200 up and trucked out. They chucked it back on the 149 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,400 floor, it was like, well, I'm going to be more serious now. 150 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,300 So put up the classic like metal Spike things, that they don't 151 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:03,000 come and land there anymore. That didn't stop them. 152 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,300 Just moved up a little bit and then sent me a picture. 153 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:06,900 He was like, Yep, this is my house right now and it's a 154 00:07:06,907 --> 00:07:11,200 picture and there's like, 12 parakeets living A beautiful. 155 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,700 That's the thing that, you know, that lovely green birds, that 156 00:07:13,700 --> 00:07:15,100 seem to be around here, some reason. 157 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,300 Yeah. There's like there's like loads 158 00:07:17,300 --> 00:07:19,100 of folklore around that because where we live, for those 159 00:07:19,100 --> 00:07:22,100 listeners where where we live there is, there are just these 160 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:24,600 this group of parakeets, like, and there's like, this whole 161 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,900 folklore behind why they're here, like there was a don't 162 00:07:26,900 --> 00:07:28,600 belong here. There's like a story that 163 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,900 apparently, someone used to keep them and they escaped, and 164 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:33,200 they've kind of just adapted to the world, but there are literal 165 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,500 parakeets it's gone. That's two minutes. 166 00:07:36,100 --> 00:07:39,500 I wouldn't know whether to be like quite grateful or hate it. 167 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:42,100 I think I very quickly. I think he called them beautiful 168 00:07:42,100 --> 00:07:44,600 pests and it's like yeah that's perfect as they are really 169 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,100 pretty but that don't really want them in your that's what a 170 00:07:47,108 --> 00:07:48,200 lot of people have called you an apology. 171 00:07:49,900 --> 00:07:54,100 It's a beautiful pair style, take it 5050 that's not too bad 172 00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:57,200 you know but one other thing before you know let you talk 173 00:07:57,300 --> 00:08:02,400 that won't ever end and I thank you today something really well 174 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,100 actually before you carry on I was just today, something really 175 00:08:06,100 --> 00:08:07,900 funny happened and I had to share with you. 176 00:08:07,900 --> 00:08:09,400 I even said to you when I saw you today I was I've got 177 00:08:09,407 --> 00:08:11,200 something funny of the Don't let me forget. 178 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:14,200 So, isn't that pathetic how our relationship has descended into 179 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,300 that? Like, weird jokes aside? 180 00:08:15,500 --> 00:08:17,600 I've got something hilarious to tell you, but I can't tell you 181 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,400 now. I'm gonna record it later. 182 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:23,200 What a fuck, what are we doing? We're living a lie anyway. 183 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,200 I don't know the story. I don't, I don't this better be 184 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,300 worth the reaction, but I didn't get assembly scientist. 185 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:32,799 It's a short story. So in maths today we this week, 186 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:34,400 we've been learning. It's like a money week that if 187 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:35,799 anyone else does that. Any teachers out there? 188 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:40,100 My money week is a common thing and today's lesson was all about 189 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:42,799 in. Lawrence and a little fun tasks, 190 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:44,000 was the end of the lesson was, right? 191 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,900 Okay. You guys are going to pair up. 192 00:08:45,900 --> 00:08:48,800 I mean, sorry, but insurance, and fun tasks where they go. 193 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:51,300 I know I thought that when I started the lesson, but they 194 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:53,200 will weirdly into it, weirdly into it. 195 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,700 Anyway, that's asked, was to create their own insurance 196 00:08:55,700 --> 00:08:56,800 company. They got to make up something 197 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,800 they're going to ensure and then I'll mate how much more fun 198 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,100 could this get? Because this is what a story at 199 00:09:03,100 --> 00:09:04,500 people at home on the edge of their seats. 200 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:08,200 I've got a really cool story. I'm talking about insurance and 201 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,400 it goes out to make their own. Shorts Company. 202 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,800 What I can't wear this code, it's all make a claim. 203 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,100 The song. Make no medical life. 204 00:09:16,100 --> 00:09:18,800 He's all right. No, I made a claim but these two 205 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,400 boys made their insurance company and they decided they 206 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,100 were going to ensure toys as like, yeah, we're gonna make it 207 00:09:24,100 --> 00:09:26,800 a toy insurance company. If your toys break will give you 208 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,700 ten toys back, was their idea and they decided to call their 209 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:32,000 company. The toy boys. 210 00:09:34,500 --> 00:09:39,600 They had obviously like no, no, understanding of the kind of 211 00:09:39,608 --> 00:09:41,300 toys. They were running around. 212 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:44,400 But yeah, with the toys, we do this wooden toys and apparently 213 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,800 they went to their English lesson as well and was still 214 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,400 referred to himself as the toy boys. 215 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:49,800 And then the teacher is like what? 216 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,800 Like not knowing the context and it just cracked cracked me up. 217 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,900 I couldn't help but laugh they thought their pictures was 218 00:09:55,900 --> 00:09:57,300 really funny and I was just laughing at toy. 219 00:09:57,300 --> 00:10:00,200 Boys Highlights Highlights. We've got to today then. 220 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,700 Well, how was school today? Yeah, not bad, mr. 221 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:05,700 Stevens blowers are blow dryer, and it is sometimes tables. 222 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:08,400 And then and then we let the other company and called us the 223 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,600 toy boys. It was lovely. 224 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:15,700 Oh yeah, what did you sell kids worried at this point insurance 225 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,100 insurance, that's really fun. That's all right, then? 226 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,800 That to be fair was well worth it. 227 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:24,700 I really regret Garden. You that I knew you between your 228 00:10:24,700 --> 00:10:27,200 face you're like shut up. It's quite a good story. 229 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:30,900 Maybe Giggles anything, it's funny. 230 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:34,300 I was going to actually something I thought about just 231 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:36,500 from that is we've been doing money this week. 232 00:10:36,500 --> 00:10:39,000 I know what, when you say my money week, that's what your 6 233 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,200 after the Saturn. It's very much like life skill 234 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,400 with my. Yeah, exactly that. 235 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:44,500 We've been, we've been teaching. I've been teaching money to buy 236 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:47,500 your fours, and I'm sure, let's teach this out. 237 00:10:47,508 --> 00:10:50,000 I can't help but put it in the context of Because I think it's 238 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,400 so important. And, you know, when we do money 239 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,500 on the curriculum, it's like comparing amounts of money and 240 00:10:55,500 --> 00:10:58,400 and knowing how Pence and pound work and how to, you know, 241 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,300 convert them and they may be using them in a context of like, 242 00:11:01,300 --> 00:11:03,200 an addition problem or subtraction or something like 243 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,900 that, but I can't help but go into, like, almost just a 244 00:11:07,900 --> 00:11:10,300 discussion with them about money and just to see, how they 245 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:13,200 understand money, because the curriculum is quite outdated, 246 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,500 actually, when it comes to money, because we spend a lot of 247 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:20,200 time looking at notes and coins and albeit important. 85% of my 248 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,100 transactions are cashless and in society, it's going that way 249 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,400 where, you know, children need to kind of learn as well. 250 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,400 You know, my children didn't know this from the discussion. 251 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:31,500 They didn't understand how a bank work. 252 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:34,500 Then understand what a card was. They didn't quite understand 253 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:37,600 that when you tap your card, that's not just like a 254 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,200 confirmation. You want something real money is 255 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,700 left your account. And we kind of got into that 256 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:44,600 whole discussion of. Well how do you get money in 257 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,600 your account? And they thought the bank just 258 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,400 gave people money and I was like, no, thanks job is to hold. 259 00:11:49,500 --> 00:11:52,200 Motorbikes money is two steps to steal your money when they need 260 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:52,800 it. Failure. 261 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:55,400 And the point, the point I was making to them. 262 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:57,200 I wrote a really want to choose to make this point in that, 263 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,300 like, more for like their parents at home to be like when 264 00:12:00,300 --> 00:12:03,500 you're asking for something, if you unlike if you know how much 265 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:05,200 you get paid per month, because they were asking me how much I 266 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,400 get paid and they were like, I'll just tell us to step. 267 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,600 Just tell us, is it over 100 pounds and I was like, I'm not 268 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,900 going to tell you but all I'll say is, it's more than 1,000 269 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:17,700 pound because I knew they think thousand-pound was huge. 270 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:19,500 Yeah. And as it's more than a A 271 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:22,400 thousand pound every month that I get paid to do this job. 272 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,800 They were like flabbergasted, like, oh my what? 273 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,900 Like, hey, what you watching? You get like Super Soakers every 274 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:29,900 week. Like, what toys? 275 00:12:29,900 --> 00:12:31,500 Oh my gosh. And I was like, okay, but I'm 276 00:12:31,508 --> 00:12:32,700 going to, I'm going to do something now. 277 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:35,400 I'm going to explain to you every single thing that comes 278 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,600 out of that immediately before I even see it. 279 00:12:37,900 --> 00:12:40,000 And I was like we have to pay the government money because 280 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,700 that's how why we can go to the hospital and why the police get 281 00:12:43,700 --> 00:12:45,500 paid. We help to pay for that kind of 282 00:12:45,500 --> 00:12:48,500 thing and then I've got to pay my bills, you know, I live in a 283 00:12:48,508 --> 00:12:51,300 house, I've got to pay I've got to pay back the money to buy the 284 00:12:51,300 --> 00:12:53,000 house. I've also got to pay for 285 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,400 something that we like to call eating. 286 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,800 Yes. Like I was just doing all this 287 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,400 joke is, if to say it gets, it gets taken away by everything. 288 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,500 You don't take into account, it's not just toys and stuff. 289 00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:03,600 Yeah. Anyway, the conversation evolved 290 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,800 and I haven't had my wallet with me that day, and I had a note, 291 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,300 and I had some coins and have a bank card, so, I got it all out. 292 00:13:08,300 --> 00:13:10,000 I've got it all out for them and, you know, they see your 293 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,200 wallet there. Like, you've got your wall, my 294 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,400 God. Yes, this is like and I so I got 295 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,800 out a 20 pound note, and I was showing it and I grabbed some 296 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,900 coins and I had my card and as I was a different It's between me. 297 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:21,500 What can I use them for thinking? 298 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:22,800 I was being like, art. Look at me. 299 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,200 I like a really Hands-On teacher when just just dropped a stack 300 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,500 of 50s. Oh, sorry kids. 301 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:29,500 So yeah, just there's that 7 Grand. 302 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:34,800 Sorry, it's where it's going because there was one kid at the 303 00:13:34,808 --> 00:13:36,200 front. No, I didn't actually do that 304 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,000 but there's one could at the front who kind of just like set 305 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,100 back in his chair and we're on video now. 306 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:41,800 I don't have you know, so you can actually watch this in the 307 00:13:41,808 --> 00:13:44,200 video me acting this out. So I know I'm going to drop out 308 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,800 the mic here. So you just sit back like this, 309 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,200 right? And it just kind of like Lisa, 310 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,500 as if he was like, fed up with me, right? 311 00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:55,300 I was like, you're right, me was what's the matter? 312 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:57,200 And he was like, I know what you're doing. 313 00:13:59,300 --> 00:14:01,700 What would you think I'm doing? You just trying to show off 314 00:14:01,700 --> 00:14:03,800 because you got the money flexing. 315 00:14:04,700 --> 00:14:06,800 That's why he banned in my hand and I was like, he thought of 316 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:11,200 just showing up, okay? I would put this back and I'm 317 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,900 just go back to my smart board of a crudely drawn Queen on my 318 00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:16,300 specimen on the boards. If I never lit up in your bag 319 00:14:16,300 --> 00:14:18,200 where you went to the bank this morning I got your hot the whole 320 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,600 life savings out. We don't work showing that the 321 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,600 idea that I was actually trying to show off me, just call me out 322 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,500 on it. Yeah, you can't do it. 323 00:14:25,500 --> 00:14:31,100 Now, I'm not trying to show off. I get my phone like, cancel the 324 00:14:31,100 --> 00:14:33,500 parade until the might cancel cancel. 325 00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:35,000 Cancel the money gun. I'm not? 326 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,900 No, no. We're not gonna do anymore. 327 00:14:37,100 --> 00:14:39,700 Yeah, yeah, it's Kris down here. Tell Chris countdown. 328 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:44,800 Because impressed, just don't play the video of me a 329 00:14:44,808 --> 00:14:45,800 millionaire. Don't do it. 330 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,400 Just don't let still pull the plug. 331 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,900 Pull the plug note. Everyone knows you're on. 332 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:53,200 How did I say that, by the way? Did he ever mention that? 333 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,400 Did we do mention that? You are, Who Wants To Be A 334 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Millionaire? I don't think we did, we 335 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,700 probably shouldn't to the podcast listeners because they 336 00:14:58,700 --> 00:15:01,100 might think you're showing off by the kids, like, just have 337 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:03,800 that kid again. Yeah, this guy. 338 00:15:05,700 --> 00:15:07,500 Yeah, sure enough. But shop just saying so, that's 339 00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:09,800 true. Not shown up what you did was 340 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,200 essentially what we did in my money week. 341 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:13,700 Basically, we talked about budgeting expenses and 342 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,000 outgoings. Well, this is the problem. 343 00:15:16,300 --> 00:15:18,400 The, the actual learning objective, the lesson was to 344 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,800 compare amounts of money. Which we ended up doing flat 20 345 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,300 minutes again because I just, I just felt like that was like, so 346 00:15:24,300 --> 00:15:25,800 just in the grand scheme of things. 347 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,100 Yeah, I just feel like sometimes the conversation takes you down. 348 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:31,900 They're so engaged in like that's good, just learning more 349 00:15:31,900 --> 00:15:35,000 about money and like, you know, when your parents say no, we 350 00:15:35,008 --> 00:15:37,100 can't afford that and you think well, you get paid. 351 00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:38,300 It's like doesn't work like that. 352 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:42,000 That's not how real life works. So yeah, that was really fun. 353 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,600 I wanted to bring up something. I did an assembly to you just to 354 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,300 completely undermine you because I thought it was funny. 355 00:15:46,900 --> 00:15:52,400 So we have In our school, every time at the minute we're doing a 356 00:15:52,408 --> 00:15:54,600 timestamp, rock star competition, and I think it's 357 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,300 like correct answers per pupil as an average per year group 358 00:15:58,300 --> 00:16:01,000 against each other and its really to encourage the lower 359 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,400 school to kind of get on the teacher rock stars more because 360 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,900 the four times table check is coming up and but yeah, five and 361 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:09,100 six are kind of, you know, getting on board as well. 362 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,200 So we announced this huge, we have this huge Trophy and Hayden 363 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,900 and I worry and the year, five knew they'd won. 364 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,400 So they they kind of were like they were coming to us. 365 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:20,400 Assembly, like giving it the big. 366 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,600 I am. The new it was being announced. 367 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,100 They were like Whispering. Yeah, we've won. 368 00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:24,600 We've been him. Yeah, we smashed it. 369 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,200 We came from behind and I was talking to them and I was just 370 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,300 like, you know, just egging them up a bit because it's meant to 371 00:16:29,308 --> 00:16:32,800 be exciting, but then obviously you're an assembly is meant to 372 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,000 be quiet and teachers without noticing what was going on which 373 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,800 like, she's assembly? Sorry, sorry. 374 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,300 But I got Hayden that turned around and had this behind me 375 00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:44,700 with this trophy in his hand, this big listening Trophy and in 376 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:47,400 hated starts trying to like, you know, just be fun and with the 377 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,300 kids and rather much as I hated, hey, baby. 378 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:51,900 Sheesh. Yeah, but it's a star for just 379 00:16:51,900 --> 00:16:53,300 trying to get them to calm down a bit. 380 00:16:53,300 --> 00:16:55,700 I do let's not roll them up and they do. 381 00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:58,000 Okay. Okay, so so I immediately 382 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,400 thought of an idea to roll them up. 383 00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:04,200 No, no, don't do this. So I took the trophy of his hand 384 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,800 staring into it cuz it's like glistening like a mirror and 385 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,300 then I just turn to your five and I just pretend to like do my 386 00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:12,300 hair and so my hair just to make them laugh. 387 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:14,500 I give the trophy back to Hayden walked out. 388 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:16,400 I was honestly looking at your disbelief. 389 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,300 I couldn't believe that within three seconds of you and you are 390 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,599 Serious as well and I know it has been serious because he's 391 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:22,599 serious. Phase comes with its own. 392 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:25,099 Actually that's not do this because teaches you to write 393 00:17:25,099 --> 00:17:28,099 them up immediately does it and look at you thinking are used, 394 00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:29,600 did you really just do the thing? 395 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,400 You just told me not to do it instantly often. 396 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:37,100 And the thing that's worse about this is I didn't even plan it. 397 00:17:37,100 --> 00:17:38,900 I didn't plan on was being genuinely shit. 398 00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:40,800 Oh, I don't get the kids in trouble when it starts writing 399 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,100 that. But then I just thought of 400 00:17:42,100 --> 00:17:43,500 something funny and I was like, oh, that ways. 401 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:46,400 It funny thing. But, yeah, I like that you just 402 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,800 left. You did believe straight after 403 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,000 as well, left me with it. A group of kids waiting in my 404 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,400 car. I need to go and teach some 405 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,200 apps, but yeah, those there was one other thing from this week. 406 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,500 I know it's been a long catch up, but I thought it might just, 407 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:01,600 you know, important to say. And it was I thought was really 408 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,000 useful and that was our staff meeting. 409 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,500 We had this week, I thought was really good and it was just 410 00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:08,700 highlighting about mental health and I think we always do this, 411 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:10,000 we plant the seed for a future episode. 412 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,900 I'm going to get too deep into it now, but it was just, it was 413 00:18:12,908 --> 00:18:15,600 just around the mental health of our young people in the country 414 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,100 and that the Outlook it just looks quite bleak. 415 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,600 I mean, I came out of it, full of, you know, lots of cool ideas 416 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,000 ways, to help children, but we do have a bit of a mental health 417 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,300 crisis in this country, don't worry? 418 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,800 Yeah, for sure. I mean, some of the graphs we 419 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,200 saw, they showed us in the presentation, we're really 420 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,600 alarming. What they, in terms of the 421 00:18:32,608 --> 00:18:35,100 difference is even in the last five years, I could see it was 422 00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:39,200 like, a huge spike in in people's or self, identifying or 423 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,400 being diagnosed with any kind of sort of mental health issue. 424 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:45,000 Yes, it was scary. As it was like twenty percent in 425 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,700 some of the fuck up member like what the group of people it was? 426 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:51,100 I think it was it was like, Likely to have flat based on 427 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:53,300 statistics and stuff because it's so hard to get diagnosed 428 00:18:53,300 --> 00:18:55,900 because of backlogs and waiting times, some people not coming 429 00:18:55,900 --> 00:18:58,100 forward. It was like, best guess kind of 430 00:18:58,108 --> 00:19:01,300 thing, and it was a huge proportion and, you know, covid 431 00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:03,800 had an impact, but I think lots of things are calm, and I don't 432 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,400 think it's as simple as to say, well covid. 433 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,800 I think that was definitely a factor, but there's lots of 434 00:19:07,808 --> 00:19:11,900 stuff in our society. That, you know, it's good that 435 00:19:11,908 --> 00:19:13,700 we're getting the training. Basically is what I thought. 436 00:19:13,700 --> 00:19:16,300 I thought this is called because there's certain things I need to 437 00:19:16,308 --> 00:19:19,200 take out of this ways to approach children, ways of 438 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,000 living Get amazing, their emotions which we've always 439 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,000 said, haven't we understand? That's important. 440 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,100 But it's and there's one example. 441 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:26,900 I just want to say which I know everyone does. 442 00:19:26,900 --> 00:19:29,100 And it'd be really interesting to hear what everyone like who's 443 00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:31,600 listening to this, then probably say, oh I've done that before, 444 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,900 which is, we think is helpful, but it's quite harmful. 445 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,600 And the example given was when a child kind of comes up to you 446 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,000 and says, Ah, I'm such an I'm so stupid. 447 00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:44,100 I'm such an idiot. I'm this, I'm that and they talk 448 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:45,700 negatively about themselves. Mmm. 449 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,300 And our natural reaction is to kind of immediately jump. 450 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:50,900 Now, you know? No, you're not. 451 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:54,300 No, no, you're not, you're not. And it was just this idea of 452 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,100 they immediately don't feel listened to. 453 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,800 And and there whether it's true or not, we're not. 454 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,300 And the joke was don't agree with them that we're not saying, 455 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,300 say, you watch it, but but I thought the Outlook of actually, 456 00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:09,600 you need to legitimize those thoughts and say, wow, I 457 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,900 understand what you're feeling and that must step must be 458 00:20:11,900 --> 00:20:15,300 horrible to have those thoughts about yourself and always ground 459 00:20:15,300 --> 00:20:16,900 something in concrete evidence about. 460 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:19,800 But, you know, last last week, actually, you are so, Helpful, 461 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,100 when these two, these two girls needed needed. 462 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:24,500 Someone to talk to. You are such a good friend to 463 00:20:24,500 --> 00:20:27,000 them and I think they really appreciated that and instead of 464 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,300 just kind of brushing off, I don't know that stuck with you 465 00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:30,600 as well. You know, funny enough. 466 00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:32,600 I'm kind of glad you said that because I was also thinking of 467 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,000 the same example and that's trying to put into practice, I 468 00:20:35,008 --> 00:20:38,500 was like what happens in my classroom where maybe, I, maybe 469 00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:41,900 I don't give enough or the right response to certain things and 470 00:20:41,900 --> 00:20:44,000 it really made me reflect on my practice, like, immediately from 471 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,400 that day. And I thought the classic is up 472 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,700 on other thing. I reckon a lot of people 473 00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:52,400 experience is If someone is someone that sounds really 474 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,200 awful. But if you have a child that 475 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,200 complains quite a lot about various minor things, like, I 476 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,700 don't wanna go outside today. I don't want to do that. 477 00:21:00,700 --> 00:21:02,600 I don't even do that. Oh, this person doesn't like me 478 00:21:02,608 --> 00:21:04,500 anymore, and it's like the fifth time they've fallen out this 479 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:06,600 month. You can very quickly and easily 480 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,100 and not really realize it become a little bit like, oh yeah, 481 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:11,500 you'll be right? Because because because you are, 482 00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:13,900 this happens all the time and actually probably we shouldn't 483 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:15,900 do that. We should actually legitimize it 484 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:18,100 and talk them through every single time genuinely. 485 00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:19,300 I actually think we should do. Have that? 486 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,400 At time and it made me think I was like, yeah, I reckon I've 487 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,300 done that in the last week or two I reckon someone has come up 488 00:21:23,300 --> 00:21:26,400 to me and I've dismissed it a bit more than I should have 489 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,200 thinking. Are they? 490 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,000 You know, they always find, they will sort this thing out. 491 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,400 So no actually stop for a second and go. 492 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,900 Oh, you're feeling like, that's interesting. 493 00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:34,800 You you felt like this again, you felt like this a few times 494 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,800 recently, haven't you? I'm really sorry you're feeling 495 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,000 that way, that must stop my suck. 496 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,500 Like, I wonder, we can what we can do to try and help that 497 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:42,800 rather than just our you'll be. All right, go on, go outside the 498 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,000 city. The classic response to 499 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:44,900 anything? You'll be a cool guy. 500 00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:47,100 So I guess a fresh air you'll be right get-go. 501 00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:48,200 Every towel on it. I'm sorry. 502 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,400 I said I feel sad when Talent is true when I was younger. 503 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,000 I had the same kind of, you know, when you're younger and 504 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,500 you're forming your opinions and I think when you're like a late 505 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:02,200 teens early early, like adulthood, it's really easy to 506 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,200 jump on, like, you know, those slogans like I'm thinking of 507 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,300 things like immigration. It's very easy to, but that's 508 00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:08,300 wrong. Okay. 509 00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:10,800 And like, when you see like these commentators say, no, it's 510 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,800 wrong, it's don't do that. I think, when you're young it, 511 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,400 you can latch onto something without thinking too deeply 512 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,200 about it. And the one thing that always 513 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,400 sticks with me surrounding me. Mental health is I remember when 514 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,100 I changed my mind on this, and I just kind of felt like I became 515 00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:27,200 more mature. Was there was a lot of kind of 516 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,800 talk around mental health issues back. 517 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,400 Then, there was, they weren't talked about as much as they are 518 00:22:30,408 --> 00:22:33,100 today even 10 years ago, but they were like, starting to 519 00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:36,500 become legitimised and I remember someone said something 520 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:39,000 about our there, just attention-seeking, you know, 521 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,100 when they, when they say like, oh this, oh, that owe me. 522 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,200 It's very easy to be like, oh, you just seeking some attention 523 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:48,800 and I remember the day that my thought on that switched and it 524 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,500 and it To thinking. Okay. 525 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,300 So yeah, like that, that was, that was so. 526 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,200 So what? Like okay, so there's two 527 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,200 options here they're just they're just seeking attention 528 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,000 and I'm going to give it to them. 529 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:04,600 And oh, aren't I have fool for falling into the Trap and giving 530 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,300 them attention no harm done? Yeah, or they really do need 531 00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:09,800 attention there. They're seriously in a 532 00:23:09,808 --> 00:23:13,200 conundrum, they get that attention they need and their 533 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,900 helped and it's like cool that is without doubt better than the 534 00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:19,200 other option which is I just assumed they don't need it. 535 00:23:19,300 --> 00:23:20,900 It and they need help and they don't get it. 536 00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:23,000 It's like cool. Give everyone that helped and 537 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,600 attention. We're going to catch the people 538 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,400 who need it. Some people who don't need it. 539 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,900 Got it. And all they've got a bit of 540 00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:29,000 attention. They were craving. 541 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:29,700 Yeah. Cool. 542 00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:32,400 That's better though, isn't it? That that is better than the 543 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,900 other option of our, they're just all speaking Italian. 544 00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:36,900 Yeah it's all rubbish in it and those people go through the 545 00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:37,800 state for the net. Yeah. 546 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,800 And assuming that they don't know, one needs help and no one 547 00:23:39,808 --> 00:23:42,300 gets any help. We have this toxic culture form. 548 00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:44,000 Where are stiff upper lip? Everyone don't tell you about 549 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,800 your problems because you just attention-seeking. 550 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,300 I agree. I do find it weird that 551 00:23:47,308 --> 00:23:49,200 attention-seeking even has a negative connotation. 552 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,400 Doesn't it? It sounds like a bad thing. 553 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,200 I'm conditioned to think that's a bad thing. 554 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,900 Attention seeking that literally sounds like a negative thing to 555 00:23:56,900 --> 00:24:00,400 me, it's mad, is that why is that - they need some attention? 556 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,300 Like what mad fish went about children is all I wanted to say, 557 00:24:04,300 --> 00:24:07,800 like, you know, there's so the developing so much emotionally 558 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,200 hormone development and things. Yeah. 559 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,400 Okay. It might be annoying and they 560 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,100 might be, they might be seeking attention. 561 00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:15,700 Cool. Yeah. 562 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,000 Give it to them. Oh yeah, just give them the 563 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,200 attention. So there. 564 00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:21,900 There was one other stat that I thought was interesting in are 565 00:24:21,908 --> 00:24:23,600 trying to get your thoughts on it, really? 566 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,300 If I don't, if you noticed it in the in the training but it was 567 00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:31,400 that it was a status code across three years. 568 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,000 Hello? Sorry. 569 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,700 Three age groups. That's what it was. 570 00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:36,600 It was like really early children like teenagers and then 571 00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:40,200 late teens, which are 16 to 18, and it showed that whole, like 572 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,200 likely to have mental health problems or issues. 573 00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:47,800 And I thought it was so interesting how the boys bar 574 00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:52,500 Started fairly high and it was higher than the girls bar in 575 00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:54,900 young, like primary school age, just slightly higher than the 576 00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:57,100 girls bar. And then when it got to the 577 00:24:57,100 --> 00:25:01,300 teenage years, the boys bar was basically the exact same size 578 00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:03,200 and the girls bar had like nearly doubled. 579 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,300 And then when it got to 16 to 18, the girls bar was like, 580 00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:08,900 astronomically High. And the boys went down, it was 581 00:25:08,900 --> 00:25:11,300 like, what? It was like a fifth, the size of 582 00:25:11,308 --> 00:25:14,400 the girls bar, and I was just like, I can't believe there is 583 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,300 that much difference in, in the genders, you know? 584 00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:19,300 I mean, and how the boys have gone down over Time that there's 585 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:22,900 generally less mental health issues, in the girls had rapidly 586 00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:25,100 gone up in primary school. I just, I don't know if you had 587 00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:26,900 any thoughts about that, or notice that yourself? 588 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,500 Now, I did, I did notice it, and he kind of referenced it again, 589 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:32,600 and I think there's multiple things you can point to here. 590 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,200 And the number one thing he was talking about is, how in general 591 00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:40,400 Women's Health tends to be diagnosed later, it on nearly 592 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,400 every respect. Like, it tends to be much later 593 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,000 on down the line. If you think about ASD 594 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,700 diagnosis, has ADHD, you think about the Preschool setting it's 595 00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:52,400 so heavily weighted towards boys getting a diagnosis for that. 596 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,000 Right? Yeah. 597 00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:56,200 And I think girls tend to get diagnosis for that kind of thing 598 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,100 later on. I think it's the same kind of 599 00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:01,100 idea of it. You know, they can kind of cope 600 00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:02,500 with it. Early slip through the net, a 601 00:26:02,508 --> 00:26:05,500 lot of attention goes on to boys and then later on and you gotta 602 00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:09,600 think with young women as well. Obviously starting to go through 603 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,600 changes and stuff as they go through their age Gap. 604 00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:14,400 No expert on this but he kind of touched on it a bit and said, 605 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,100 there are various reasons for this. 606 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,500 It's just crazy, isn't it in this world? 607 00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:22,400 Are, you know, we are very much conditioned to because of the 608 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,400 right for you, no charge for equality and making sure 609 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,600 everything equal opportunities. Making sure everyone has the 610 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,500 same kind of, you know, rights and things like that. 611 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:36,000 Which is so important that it does kind of juxtapose to this 612 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,000 this idea sometimes with some stats are so split by gender, 613 00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:40,900 like call. We need all of this. 614 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:43,500 We need all this quality and stuff, but there are Stark 615 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:47,800 differences in the needs and the outcomes for different genders 616 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,000 still now So we still need to address them. 617 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,500 Yeah, no, that's cool. It was, I found it. 618 00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:54,900 Yeah, super interesting. And I'm definitely gonna be a 619 00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:56,700 lot more aware of it. I think it's cool and 620 00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:59,700 particularly aware of that that stat with the girls and boys. 621 00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:01,600 I just, I don't know, I don't know what it's gonna do to me, 622 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,800 but I'm but I'm more aware of it now, shall we? 623 00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:08,200 Give the viewers and the listeners, a little break, 624 00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:09,900 through the jungle, like it like that. 625 00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:11,600 You know, they do the usual go get a Cuppa. 626 00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:14,600 So each we do not think that, that we do where we do the same 627 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,400 joke for six episodes in a row, actually, become bored a bit, 628 00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:19,700 never mention it again, but I the prefix, we do that with 629 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:22,900 which story. Okay. 630 00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:25,200 Yeah, jingle time, guys. Go and grab a drink. 631 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,800 Alright, now we've actually just ended up doing the mental 632 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,400 episode future as we're talking about it for ages. 633 00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:36,200 Let's go into the bulk of this one. 634 00:27:36,300 --> 00:27:38,900 You all clicked on this episode. I by the way, very quickly last 635 00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:41,600 week and a few weeks before Hayden sometimes there's like 636 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,900 all don't wanna spoil what we're talking about, guys, keep in 637 00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:45,000 touch. They've clicked the episode 638 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,900 mate, it's in the title 19 around. 639 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,400 I knew that Dan and I just didn't want to talk about the 640 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,200 content early on our side. Anyway, you've clicked on it. 641 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,000 We're half an hour into I meant I've helped podcast episode 642 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,100 which is called residential so I supposed to talk about the 643 00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:03,100 residential you won't, you went on one last week, Hayden. 644 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:05,000 I'm going to throw it straight over to you, obviously, 645 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,800 residential's huge part of a kid's development. 646 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,000 I think every person in the country, remember their Primary 647 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,000 School develop, Primary School residential trip like really 648 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,100 formative memories for them. Really like big steps, you know, 649 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:20,400 overcoming fears, hey into having a thing happened when you 650 00:28:20,408 --> 00:28:22,300 went well, they all remember something. 651 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:24,600 They'll remember the day that I got noticed. 652 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,800 I got recognized. What you mean the most important 653 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,500 thing that happened there all about me. 654 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:37,400 I was selfish, but something cool. 655 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,700 That happened was wait. Is this actually about you? 656 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:44,400 Yeah, it's actually about me. I knew you'd take the mixer 657 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,100 going. There we go, go ahead. 658 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,400 All right, so I'm not even Jack. This is so cool. 659 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,400 I feel famous, right? I was standing in the little 660 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,300 playground area where we all star lineup and meet the next 661 00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:56,300 instructor for the thing. And I Random child from another 662 00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:57,600 school. Came out to me. 663 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,300 I thought maybe that an issue, maybe there's something happened 664 00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:02,000 with one of our children or something and said, excuse me 665 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,500 really polite. Excuse me. 666 00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:07,200 And I are you okay if hello did not knowing who this child was 667 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,800 at all? He said, are you do I recognize 668 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,900 you from Top Dog and my face lit up? 669 00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:19,700 I was like yeah you do how and I was just like flabbergasted 670 00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:23,200 there's some random person top fan obviously had had 671 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,400 recognized. You seen me across the 672 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,800 playground I thought Is that guy? 673 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,100 I've watched their YouTube videos that unbelievable. 674 00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,200 So there you go. It's amazing first time. 675 00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:34,400 So for those that don't know. Yeah, it says it in the bottom 676 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,300 left corner of our podcast. But we have we, you know, we run 677 00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:39,700 the company Tata title podcast, title, yet. 678 00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:41,700 Podcast podcast, thumbnail podcast thumbnail. 679 00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:42,700 Yeah. Thanks for interrupting with the 680 00:29:42,708 --> 00:29:45,700 wrong. Don't answer, don't you touring? 681 00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,100 And we make YouTube videos for children is not possible to talk 682 00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:50,300 about that again, in the future. But yeah, I recognized you 683 00:29:50,308 --> 00:29:52,200 recognize me from it. So I felt quite famous and the 684 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,500 kids from our school, a lot of them like words, Kind of 685 00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:57,200 earwigging, obviously, and saw that I was talking to her 686 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,600 another run, some random child and they were like, getting 687 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,900 getting Territorial and defensive. 688 00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:01,700 Yeah. Yeah. 689 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:02,400 Yeah. Ready ready? 690 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,800 Ready to fight for their teacher? 691 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,900 And they were like, hey, when I came back over and one of them 692 00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:10,800 came, a big pat on the back and was like, really miss is Divas 693 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:16,000 in the presence of a famous. Man having me, Chris is one kid 694 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,800 that's seen our videos and and that was the highlight for 695 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,100 everyone. Oh yeah for sure. 696 00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:22,500 Yeah. Forget like kids conquering 697 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:23,900 their abseiling fears or anything? 698 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,500 Yeah a guy recognized me from YouTube people. 699 00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:29,000 Yeah yeah I can I see this is so sad. 700 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,900 And again if you don't have children you'll be like what 701 00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:33,900 really is this anything but any teachers will know how much more 702 00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:34,500 win. This is. 703 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:38,200 I can honestly say every single child that we took, which was 704 00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:45,200 like Fifty four kids, ate their food without any trouble, every 705 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,100 lunch and dinner time, no one had any problems. 706 00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:52,200 They all just got food. Sat down and ate it all and it 707 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,400 was amazing because that never happened that ladies and 708 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,500 gentlemen, is the bar that we set our children. 709 00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:58,700 If you've got a, if it doesn't happen, you know, there's a 710 00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:00,200 food, you know this. If you're listening to this 711 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,800 you're thinking why are you know, there's always but I can't 712 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,700 eat any of this or I feel sick. I don't have any of that or 713 00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:06,200 someone refuses. Amazing. 714 00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:08,300 And the second best bit actually this is the best bit. 715 00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:10,700 That was the second best bit. They all went to sleep. 716 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,300 They all hold my goodness. Went to sleep our children, ate, 717 00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:18,700 and slept ate, and teacher of the year slept. 718 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,700 Okay? We always joking, reside 719 00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:24,500 ourselves, huge that when you were you on a residential last 720 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:26,800 year and we do we know where we prepare ourselves mentally as 721 00:31:26,808 --> 00:31:29,100 teachers, like, we're going to be able to am because the 722 00:31:29,108 --> 00:31:31,700 children are just going to be just constantly annoying and up 723 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,600 and excited, which I'm all for, by the way. 724 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,900 I actually like I love that the children do it because it's 725 00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:38,500 often their first experience remotely if I doing in something 726 00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:40,500 like this, so I'm like, yeah, whatever, you know, there's got 727 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:43,000 to be boundaries, but This is the time to let them have a 728 00:31:43,008 --> 00:31:45,300 little bit of fun, you know. But they weren't absolute was 729 00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:47,300 like it got like 11 p.m. and we were sort of sat in the 730 00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:49,300 corridors thinking, right? When we better go and check and 731 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,200 everyone was asleep both nights and I was like oh this is bliss. 732 00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:56,000 This is bliss. So yeah, great I had a great 733 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,100 time. So I mean what a residential 734 00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:00,900 trip you've got noticed. And the kids ate and slept. 735 00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:02,000 Yeah. I mean yeah. 736 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,800 Oh they did do some activities in the middle as well. 737 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,900 They were good to yeah. But other than that is a symptom 738 00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:08,300 like like, you know, like real like team bonding like about is 739 00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:13,900 that comes That data is but sleep early. 740 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,600 No, it's tea party. So congratulations. 741 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,600 Congratulations. Big. 742 00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:20,900 I just thought that we could like kind of expand on this a 743 00:32:20,908 --> 00:32:22,800 little bit more and just talk about residential's in general 744 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,700 because they are unbelievably like important, right? 745 00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:29,200 I think there's no doubt about that unbelievably important. 746 00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:31,900 But as always, in this podcast, we like to talk about the things 747 00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:34,600 that slightly annoyed sometimes, so I'm going to dive straight 748 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,700 in. Oh yeah, no complain about 749 00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:41,200 something Domo mildly inconvenient, love it. 750 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,800 For the first time the other day, by the way, someone said, 751 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,800 oh yeah, it's making me question my, whether I'm going in the 752 00:32:46,808 --> 00:32:49,800 right career or not, and I'm so awful, I felt awful. 753 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,100 But the context was that she'd kind of come to the Cod crossed 754 00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:56,000 a bit later, might be listen to this right now, Color cast and 755 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,400 the kodkod class because I can't talk properly for more than 10 756 00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,800 words and arrived. So obviously I got that one 757 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,700 right on the podcast. And she was up to I think that's 758 00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:07,400 just finished episode 7 and 8 and I think that's what we kind 759 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,700 of realized that it might be coming across it Moni and I 760 00:33:10,708 --> 00:33:13,000 think episode 10, Is like our favorite Primary School memories 761 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,400 ever. Yeah, so I was just like, oh, 762 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,300 keep going because I think we do realize this and we get very 763 00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:22,000 much more purposely positive. But anyway, lost track of what I 764 00:33:22,008 --> 00:33:25,400 was saying now, it's going back to the residential and I think 765 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,800 it's, I think it's such a good thing for the children, but I've 766 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:35,500 got to come in with something. I see consistently which is that 767 00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,700 if you happen to be put in the year group, in which the 768 00:33:38,700 --> 00:33:42,700 residential happens, sometimes here, for some 06 all the time. 769 00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:46,300 No I'm showing other schools. You know any point the 770 00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:51,500 expectation there for to go on the residential trip as if it's 771 00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:55,200 not hours and hours of extra work that you're just expected 772 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,500 to do because you're literally leaving your house and going and 773 00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:01,200 and staying and facilitating a holiday for your children. 774 00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:03,400 Yeah, this really splits teachers. 775 00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:06,800 I think teachers right now very heavily towards workloads to hi. 776 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,199 It's unacceptable. That's why there's so many 777 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,400 strikes but this is a real leveler. 778 00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:13,199 I see a lot of people Arguing say no, this really is, you 779 00:34:13,207 --> 00:34:15,500 know, it's for the children. It's part of the job. 780 00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:18,400 You should just do it. What are your thoughts on the 781 00:34:18,408 --> 00:34:20,400 whole situation of just kind of the expectation? 782 00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:22,699 Well, I'll just say firstly. I've been very fortunate in my 783 00:34:22,699 --> 00:34:24,900 career to have never experienced that pressure. 784 00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:27,100 So the school's I've worked and I've been on I've been on 785 00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:30,300 residential of all the schools I've worked at and not once have 786 00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,300 I felt like it was an expectation of me to go. 787 00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:34,800 It is always been very much or will you know in a question 788 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,800 which is really nice. So clearly a lot of schools are 789 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,199 doing it right. But I agree and I have seen and 790 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,400 we I think we've even seen maybe the Online discussion, where low 791 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,100 the teachers were pitching in with their opinions. 792 00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:49,699 On this, my personal opinion is that, of course, it should not 793 00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:53,000 be an expectation. Like you said, some residents 794 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000 was a five days long, we saw teachers there that were like, 795 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,100 yeah, we're on day four and I was thinking Christ day for like 796 00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:00,300 three days. Feels a lot like a long time to 797 00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:03,800 be away from home and basically working 24 hours a day. 798 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,500 You know, that obviously even when you're sleeping, you can be 799 00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:08,500 woken up by the children that need things, you have to be 800 00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:10,600 ready. So you are working the whole 801 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,100 time. So That reason, I think it's 802 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:14,800 ludicrous. If there are any schools out 803 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,400 there or any members of SRT that may be organized a trip that 804 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:22,000 actually expect their teachers to go on it without, you know, 805 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,500 asking them essentially because it's just, it's just mad. 806 00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:27,400 And I know there's lots of teachers as well and place 807 00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:32,000 positions where they just can't they just can't they have life 808 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,200 commitments. Perhaps they're a carer or they 809 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,200 have like animals and things to look after and they just can't 810 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,400 like, it might cost them loads of money to permits. 811 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,500 Put the animals in kennels or something like hot dogs. 812 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,200 It's just it's not fair to say. Oh no. 813 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,000 Yeah, but you're in your 60s. You got to say okay, well it's 814 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,100 still just a job like, okay? Take the three teacher. 815 00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:55,700 Why is that different? Yeah, and at what really there 816 00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:58,300 was one point, there are certain points, I get when people are 817 00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:00,400 like you know it's such an important thing for the kids 818 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,300 schools have to make it happen actually agree with that. 819 00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:04,500 I think schools should do what they can to make it happen. 820 00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:06,800 Even if it means like you said, taking a teacher from a 821 00:36:06,808 --> 00:36:08,500 different year. Group who can do it or wants to 822 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:11,100 do it and then duck shifting around your staff for the week 823 00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:15,700 like I That's absolutely fine. But you know, the idea of, you 824 00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:17,400 know, you're expected to do something. 825 00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:21,100 I just really, really don't like it because especially when 826 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,700 there's nothing given in kind of Lu, let's say in low days and 827 00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:28,200 then yes, that was it. That was the discussion point. 828 00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:31,400 It was someone said couch. It should, I should I went on 829 00:36:31,408 --> 00:36:33,300 the kit I went on a residential trip. 830 00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:36,500 Should I be expected to get a day in low back and that was the 831 00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:38,500 argument. People haven't, sorry, exactly. 832 00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:40,200 And the no, no, that was that was exactly it. 833 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,800 And but the response to Is that I really didn't like was it was 834 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,300 almost condescending and it was kind of like, well, you know, 835 00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:48,600 it's part of the role of being a teaching or wider 836 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,200 responsibilities. We have an obligation to do this 837 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,700 and someone made the point. Now at that another point was 838 00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:57,200 and it's really fun. They were like oh it's fine, 839 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,200 it's really fun. Like but why not just go and do 840 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,400 it is such a great experience and I wanted to just reply. 841 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,400 I can't remember, I did, I think I just stayed out because it was 842 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,800 like one of those classic hundreds of comments threads as 843 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,400 like there's not get involved and but what is replying to say? 844 00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:16,200 So at what point does it become irrelevant relevant of how fun 845 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,000 the job is like it's a job, right? 846 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,500 It's a job. It's a job. 847 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:22,900 We are away on work 24/7, looking after the kit. 848 00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:25,300 Yeah, it's fun. Does that mean I suddenly don't 849 00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:28,500 get paid or am expect that to Triple my hours for no reason. 850 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:30,300 It's irrelevant that person is going to be shocked when they 851 00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:32,900 find out the staff that work at the residential actually get 852 00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:34,900 paid as well. They don't just do it brings 853 00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:36,400 fun. Wait, what? 854 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,700 It's fun though? It's like cool fun will pay. 855 00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:42,600 My bills fan will mean that the the You know, the things I have 856 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,700 to change in my life for that week to go away and 857 00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:47,300 presidential. It just would never happen, 858 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:49,300 right? You'd get compensated, I just 859 00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:52,100 don't understand this Outlook that we have, it's lovely, 860 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,400 right? And it's that classic thing. 861 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,700 We always say of when someone in the school goes above and 862 00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:58,900 beyond, who are we to put them down for doing that like that? 863 00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:01,200 And that's lovely. If they if they want to do an 864 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,700 after school club or before school club for no money because 865 00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:04,900 they're passionate about something. 866 00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:07,700 It's a passion project, they want to get the kids involved 867 00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:09,300 in. Like, you know, it might be like 868 00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:11,400 a science club that they just got this love for. 869 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,700 That should never be put down. I really hate the attitude of 870 00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:17,100 saying, oh, don't go extra because then we all have to go 871 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:21,400 extra that, don't do that. But equally when that's used as 872 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,600 something against someone, it's so toxic is horrible. 873 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,300 It's like, well, you know, every other year or the year, six 874 00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:30,600 staff have gone cool and and they want to do it for free. 875 00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:32,600 Nice one. Yeah, I don't. 876 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,900 Yeah, I'm not going to I know. And that's, that's the thing. 877 00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:36,900 Isn't people. Often said to me in my career 878 00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:40,000 I've heard it from multiple experience people over time, 879 00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:43,900 which is that It is nice when people do things that are above 880 00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:46,100 and beyond the contract. And what we need to do, you 881 00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:47,800 know, about what we require to do. 882 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,100 But when it sets a new precedent, then it's a problem 883 00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,000 and and unfortunately, we're human beings. 884 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,100 It does tend to do that. So I do understand why people 885 00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:00,900 say, you know, you know, people get annoyed at people that go 886 00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:02,700 above and beyond. I do actually get that because 887 00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:05,100 maybe they've just experienced in their career are, you know, 888 00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:08,700 every other time that's happened, a new president, slips 889 00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:10,600 in and now that's the new standard and suddenly everyone's 890 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,900 workloads higher. Just passively because enough 891 00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:16,000 people did this free thing. So I think we have to really, 892 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,300 really care for that in this career. 893 00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:20,400 A career. That's probably exclusively got 894 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,800 the state. It's in because of people's 895 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,300 Goodwill just being taken advantage of and then becoming 896 00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:28,400 expectation over time. So it's a really hard one isn't 897 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,800 because like you said, are you clearly don't want to put those 898 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,300 people down because they're passionate and they're doing 899 00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:33,700 something amazing. So, where is the line? 900 00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:38,300 Where's the middle ground of? I think to me, the middle ground 901 00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:42,000 in that situation, is allowing that to happen and especially 902 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,200 thinking, from a leadership position of of, absolutely 903 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,900 loving someone doing that. Imagine being a leader and 904 00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:49,600 putting someone down for going. The extra mile. 905 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,300 You like, put going extra miles, amazing. 906 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:54,500 I think that the middle ground is leadership making it 907 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,400 abundantly clear that this person is going out of their way 908 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,000 to do this and it is absolutely not the expectation and I 909 00:40:00,008 --> 00:40:01,600 absolutely want to put on record. 910 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,700 Don't just assume this put on record that yet. 911 00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:05,400 It's amazing. They've done. 912 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,800 So, I'm praising them, but I do not think any less of the job 913 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,700 anyone else is doing. Yeah. 914 00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:11,800 That's like that's it, isn't it? I think praising them is good 915 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,600 but it doesn't have to be praising them and then suddenly 916 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,800 thinking, oh, you're not up to a stand. 917 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,900 That it's praise that person and then praise the rest of them. 918 00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:20,500 Something else they're doing really well because we all go 919 00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:21,600 above and beyond in different ways. 920 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,500 I think you're right. That's it. 921 00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:24,000 That's you've nailed it on the head leadership. 922 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,900 It has to be done. It has to be leadership taking 923 00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:29,500 control of that situation. So, another thing I want to talk 924 00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:32,900 about with residential's, it's bit more like more weighted 925 00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:35,300 towards kind of families and children, now, rather than sort 926 00:40:35,300 --> 00:40:39,800 each, Teachers and staff is a constant problem across again. 927 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,100 Across my career is that it costs a lot of money, and I 928 00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:47,300 always feel a bit rubbish. I always do this, is little bit 929 00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:51,100 of guilt in me, because not all the children can come and I hate 930 00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:52,800 that. I hate that because it's okay, 931 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,600 of course, it costs money, like, it can't be free. 932 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,100 It just with it, you know, it's not going to work like that, but 933 00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:58,700 I really, really, really, really hate that. 934 00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:01,800 There are latino children every year that can't come and I know, 935 00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:03,900 I just know that the only reason they're not coming. 936 00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:05,400 It's because the family kind of thought. 937 00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:09,100 To send them on that trip. That just, I don't know it. 938 00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:11,500 I don't really I don't know what I say about it, but it's just 939 00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:13,700 one of those things I want to highlight and I don't know if 940 00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:15,200 you've got anything to say on that topic. 941 00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:17,700 You just you just showing your human right. 942 00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:20,700 That's simple as that. And it is that it's this, it's 943 00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:24,200 this its life, it is life, its this world, we live in. 944 00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:27,400 It's this, you know, let's go meted out. 945 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,100 It's capitalism. Like, it is the world we live in 946 00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:33,900 and the problem is from our point of view is we work in 947 00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:36,500 state schools, right? Where, it's Everyone comes to a 948 00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:40,300 state school, no matter their background and they get the the 949 00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:42,900 input and the education that they deserve of the highest 950 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:44,500 standard that we could possibly give them. 951 00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:48,900 And you know that we have pupil premium funding in schools to 952 00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:51,200 help those disadvantaged to give them extra steps. 953 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,800 Give them extra help to kind of try and bridge that Gap because 954 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,800 there is not only the Gap in what you're saying there. 955 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,400 In terms of experiences like the trip, there's the gap which 956 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,200 comes with being less well-off on the whole is attainment. 957 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,200 Slow That is a fact that's why we have this pupil premium fun. 958 00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:10,700 So, there's always that Gap. And as teachers we're all 959 00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:13,700 passionate about trying to close that Gap, as much as possible to 960 00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:16,700 try and help social Mobility. No one wants the fact that 961 00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:20,600 there, you know, their parents, you know, wealth to negatively 962 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,300 impact them. And it's almost the same kind of 963 00:42:23,308 --> 00:42:24,900 logic as what we just talked about. 964 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,500 If someone is from a wealthy background, I also don't like 965 00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:32,800 the idea of holding them back because it tastes like it leaves 966 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,600 a bad taste in the mouth. Okay? 967 00:42:34,900 --> 00:42:38,300 I don't want to Kind of hold people back from excelling but 968 00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:41,000 I'm really really really passionate about not letting 969 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,300 people dip because of their yeah lack that wealth inequalities. 970 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,700 Yeah, I think that's really important and we're always 971 00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:50,100 trying to bridge that Gap. We're trying to close that Gap 972 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,000 and as Society becomes less and less equal that gaps going to 973 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,800 get bigger and bigger. And you know what you're saying, 974 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,000 is One symptom of that, where we work in a state school, where we 975 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,900 provide everyone with an equal education apart from, by the 976 00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:06,800 way, this really important social Social aspect which like 977 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,200 molds you as a person and you get to go away from home for the 978 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,500 first time and yeah you learn is that apart from that. 979 00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:14,800 You can't get that, sorry, because you can't afford it. 980 00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:18,700 And that that is just, it's, it's just from our point of view 981 00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:20,500 is Teachers, that's always going to sit badly. 982 00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:22,500 Because over the years, I know, there are other children. 983 00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:24,700 I can just think of in my head now that I know, haven't come on 984 00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:26,900 the trips over the years who I just think God, they would have 985 00:43:26,900 --> 00:43:30,600 benefited so much socially from that trip and they didn't get to 986 00:43:30,607 --> 00:43:32,200 come. But the two things that I've 987 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,400 experienced that the schools have done because obviously I 988 00:43:34,408 --> 00:43:35,400 like I said, I've worked in different. 989 00:43:35,500 --> 00:43:37,700 Schools. I've had residential's are as 990 00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:39,500 follows, and I think they're really a pretty decent work 991 00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:41,700 around to be fair. So one school, I worked at one 992 00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:43,900 year. We had a really, really high 993 00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:46,900 percentage of people premium children at the school at that 994 00:43:46,908 --> 00:43:50,500 time and we were able to allocate the funding to 995 00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:53,000 basically pull together enough money that they could all go. 996 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,300 And a lot of that came from pupil pupil premium funding 997 00:43:56,300 --> 00:44:00,300 which is and it just it just worked out and I are so pleased 998 00:44:00,300 --> 00:44:01,800 because everyone got to come on the trip. 999 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,000 So that was like a dream situation but typically Happens. 1000 00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:07,400 And it happened this year with us. 1001 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,800 When children don't come, is the children, stay behind equally, 1002 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,000 do something fun and adventurous and I must say, the teacher in 1003 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,200 our group, who stay behind this year, went to so much effort, to 1004 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,700 genuinely put on an apt and actually amazing few days for 1005 00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:26,000 the children, stay behind. So the point where so I was 1006 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,900 actually worried that some children will be like we're 1007 00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:31,700 coming on the trip but will be. It'll be like, can I stay? 1008 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,000 Because that sounds really good. They had such a good time like 1009 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,500 they, like They went outside and did lots of activities and team 1010 00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:40,000 building stuff and and they also got to go on like a little 1011 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,000 Cinema trip. You just felt that it was like 1012 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,600 they had and I'm so glad and it makes me feel so much better, 1013 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,800 that they actually did have a good time and they weren't just 1014 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,500 out of school thinking, I wish I was on that trip. 1015 00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:56,800 Yeah, you know, and how much so much of our job is like I think 1016 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,100 I think it's underestimated and I underestimated in myself how 1017 00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:04,600 much of like an emotional toll things have because it like, it 1018 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,900 does really emotionally affect me seeing in a quality, like, in 1019 00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:14,400 front of me, mmm, and I it makes me feel horrible that I'm so 1020 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,100 powerless and I think that's what makes me feel so 1021 00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:19,000 passionate. Like, you know what, I'm like 1022 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,800 Hayden in terms of political, like, my political Outlook. 1023 00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:25,700 I'm quite outspoken and I love talking about it and I'm very 1024 00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:29,000 passionate about these things because because I literally see 1025 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,800 it in front of me. And I think every school teacher 1026 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,600 can say, the same thing that we get to see such a cross-section 1027 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,700 of society and they'll be some schools in affluent areas some 1028 00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:41,000 school, in poor areas, but most schools, you'll see a cross 1029 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,600 section of a Every background you can and you see some 1030 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:49,700 children in your class who you make such a bond with that. 1031 00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:54,500 You try so hard to make such an impact on their lives and you 1032 00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:56,500 love these kids. By the time, you know, after a 1033 00:45:56,508 --> 00:45:59,800 few months you make such a bond with them and but it's so 1034 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,000 emotionally wrenching when you just make that realization that 1035 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,000 there's only so much you can do because of the social structures 1036 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,400 and the social limitations on their background and you know 1037 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,400 where they've come from. And you've, you're putting, 1038 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:15,500 you're applying Band-Aid sometimes you're like, just 1039 00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:18,700 trying to get them through and you want the best for them. 1040 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,800 And it's so frustrating when that has to come from structures 1041 00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:26,100 that you don't have control over, like social care and 1042 00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:30,000 education as a whole and it that's where my passion comes 1043 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,000 from. It's like these are the most 1044 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,400 disadvantaged kids in the country. 1045 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,700 I don't care. I will argue to the hill that 1046 00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:40,300 it's a relevant, their parents situation, and whether they do 1047 00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:42,200 you think they deserve, It or not. 1048 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,200 There's a kid here. There is a literal child here 1049 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,800 and it's the kind of argument that makes me think of course 1050 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,300 School dinners need to be free for children. 1051 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,900 They are children who need to eat food and that's one way as a 1052 00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:59,000 society that we could just make sure they get one good meal a 1053 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,800 day. Is that like too much to ask 1054 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,400 really that as a society, we can club together to feed our kids 1055 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,500 and if you don't want to take that up because you're wealthier 1056 00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:10,100 or you want to have your own fine do that then. 1057 00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:13,900 But like, but oh no, someone got a free dinner and their parents 1058 00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:17,800 might have afford it, get over yourself, give the kids food. 1059 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,300 Like it it just gets simple as that for me. 1060 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,200 And this is small things we can do. 1061 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,300 And I'm going on the right now because it does, it does really 1062 00:47:25,300 --> 00:47:27,100 affect me. It does really affect me when I 1063 00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:32,400 see such unfairness and I'm so passionate about trying to make 1064 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,000 a difference, but I only know, there's only so far, one person 1065 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,700 can go and like, an individualistic time. 1066 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,800 We need like wholesale change. I feel like I might have rolled 1067 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,500 you up. By telling you that obviously 1068 00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:45,200 not all the children are school. Got to witness me being 1069 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,400 recognized. So I apologize it if that's a 1070 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,900 major step because I understand that obviously that was it would 1071 00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:52,700 have been a huge life-changing moment for our children are not 1072 00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:55,300 and that is social injustice. That's social injustice at its 1073 00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:57,700 heart. I know we need more kids seeing 1074 00:47:57,700 --> 00:47:59,300 teachers getting recognized for YouTube videos. 1075 00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:01,200 Yeah yeah. So I do apologize for writing 1076 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,100 about them but I think it's time to move on. 1077 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,200 We've got one final section before we leave, you lovely 1078 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,600 viewers and listeners today and today we've got a little bit of 1079 00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:14,900 toxicity in schools. But before we do that though, I 1080 00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:18,300 know before we do that, Dylan, you're going to come in and plug 1081 00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:20,400 all of our channels and stuff, guys. 1082 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,800 Plz I'm going to be really quick and to the point today, okay, 1083 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,000 which is hard with the length I usernames by am, can you please 1084 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,100 give us a review on Spotify? It really helps us. 1085 00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:31,100 Illegitimate has us. It's going to help us get more 1086 00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:33,500 guests on the show. I say more guests because we 1087 00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:37,000 have three guests lineup. We have three guests coming on 1088 00:48:37,008 --> 00:48:39,600 the podcast in the next few months, so watch out for them. 1089 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,900 Please give us a review. Please share it with your 1090 00:48:41,900 --> 00:48:43,000 friends. That's the biggest thing I want 1091 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,200 to share and get the audience bigger and bigger followers on 1092 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,200 Instagram. Teach sleep, repeat podcast, 1093 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,900 send us an email, teach sleep, repeat POD at gmail.com, send us 1094 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:53,500 a text message. You've got a number from last 1095 00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:56,000 week. Hayden back to you guys, as you 1096 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,900 can tell, you know, Dylan loves having a bit of a rant, a rant, 1097 00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:02,600 as he calls it. So, I thought, what better ways, 1098 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,100 when this podcast and with a bit of toxicity in schools, Actually 1099 00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:07,700 Dylan I think this will spark a nice conversation. 1100 00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:10,600 So I'm going to read to you something that as always, I've 1101 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,500 read on a forum and I thought well, that's interesting. 1102 00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:15,200 Interesting opinion moment before you start, I'll just get 1103 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,500 my blood pressure monitor, ready? 1104 00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:20,200 Yeah. I've also just realized it 1105 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,000 wearing it under the T-shirt, I love that, by the way go and 1106 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,300 check out our earlier episodes. If you have no idea what Dylan's 1107 00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:28,200 t-shirt means, it's taking them right back out of Wreck. 1108 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,000 It Ralph ready. If you know what I mean when I 1109 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,900 say Wreck-It Ralph, then you are an OG G listener. 1110 00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:36,100 But you ready for this, telling you gonna get You're gonna get 1111 00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:40,500 all understand riled up. This person said I work mornings 1112 00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:42,000 every day. No point for contracts. 1113 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,400 Quite common. Okay, goddess are annoying. 1114 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,700 Try to get me. Riled up already. 1115 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,500 You haven't done that, but yeah, me, I understand that. 1116 00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:51,400 I, that I do not have to attend after school. 1117 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,200 Meetings, obviously part of their contract. 1118 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,700 I've offered to join on Zoom, but this has been turned down on 1119 00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:59,100 the grounds that if I'm granted. This then all those would start 1120 00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:00,800 expecting it. I hate that excuse by the way, 1121 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,700 sorry, so yeah. Oh my gosh, hate that. 1122 00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:05,600 Well if we give you this thing that's perfect. 1123 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,100 Seasonable everyone else might want this perfectly reasonable 1124 00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:11,100 thing, hate that, by the way, very toxic straight away and 1125 00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:12,400 they put I don't get why. That's a problem. 1126 00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:14,800 Anyway, also offer to stay at the meetings are held at 1127 00:50:14,808 --> 00:50:17,900 lunchtime or I can catch up by basically, I don't want to hang 1128 00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:20,900 around all day is their point because they only work trapped. 1129 00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:22,500 I'm right trapped on exactly that. 1130 00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:27,000 So, the upset from this person comes from this, that wasn't 1131 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,300 accepted. She's been harassed and 1132 00:50:29,308 --> 00:50:32,600 harassing arrest of emails from like certainly SLT around the 1133 00:50:32,607 --> 00:50:33,900 school. Being like, Oh, you really do 1134 00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:37,600 need to be at these meetings. And she wait, I thought it was 1135 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,900 that she didn't have 20. She saying she shouldn't have to 1136 00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:40,400 come. Yeah. 1137 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,400 She's saying, she's alright. Yeah, side. 1138 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,800 Like she's saying it's very much in her Conrad doesn't have to 1139 00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:47,300 but the school now that her head of Department, I think it's a 1140 00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:51,300 secondary school is really peed off basically and upset that 1141 00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:53,400 this person isn't attending these meetings because I need to 1142 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,200 get the information cool and has had loads and loads of emails 1143 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,500 about it in the week and now they're saying things. 1144 00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:00,700 Like are you need to get explicit like permission written 1145 00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:03,000 down that you don't have to be at the meetings and all this was 1146 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,900 rubbish and it's I just making this person's life he'll 1147 00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:06,800 basically. And she's Just said, I'm being 1148 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,400 made to feel that I'm difficult and that I'm not a team player 1149 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,900 and I don't want to have this talk with this person like it's 1150 00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:16,400 making me really uncomfortable and I feel harassed. so, there 1151 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:23,500 you go, it, I just Let me start off by saying, okay, it's like a 1152 00:51:23,508 --> 00:51:25,300 needle, a Rigo's. I read it. 1153 00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:28,200 I realized that I go off on one and maybe it's emotional 1154 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,300 sometimes and I think once or twice I've said things that 1155 00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:32,400 maybe I look back and I'm like, oh maybe I'm overreacting but 1156 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,900 I'm gonna do anyway for the memes. 1157 00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:42,600 Gonna do it in? I am I struggle to Understand, 1158 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:49,800 let me put it mildly how those people literally exist, mild 1159 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:54,600 ii-i'm, nice and Mild. I really struggle to understand 1160 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,200 how someone can be in that situation where they know the 1161 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,500 contract of this person instead of just being a normal human 1162 00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:09,100 being and conversing with them. Like a human rather than a child 1163 00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:12,400 and maybe realizing that it's a job. 1164 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,700 This sounds like the kind of person who maybe takes their 1165 00:52:14,700 --> 00:52:16,500 job. Very, very over-the-top. 1166 00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:18,000 Seriously. Like we were saying earlier goes 1167 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,300 above and beyond perhaps its head of a head of a department 1168 00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:24,100 because they've worked incredibly hard and all fair 1169 00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:26,000 play to them. But seems to think that 1170 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,200 projecting that onto other people as acceptable. 1171 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,100 Mmm, it's not for a start. It's not acceptable. 1172 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,300 You are there to fulfill a role as she is fulfilling her role 1173 00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:37,800 this person. Much as she needs to. 1174 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,100 If she has offered so many solutions to this problem, which 1175 00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:45,100 don't involve her wasting four hours of a time to what is 1176 00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,300 essentially becoming full time. Because she's in school that 1177 00:52:47,300 --> 00:52:50,000 whole time, she's not cutting, but that's ridiculous to expect 1178 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,700 her to have to stay that long without compensation. 1179 00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:55,100 At least there could be a discussion of well perhaps you 1180 00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:58,100 know, perhaps we could move your PPA to this afternoon and you're 1181 00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:01,500 getting paid therefore to stay in school and do your stuff that 1182 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,300 there's look at that. You can we just think about this 1183 00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:07,200 when the meta perspective? Now of we do, so So much out of 1184 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,500 school. Anyway. 1185 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,000 Why are you trapping my time? Also, like this woman has 1186 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,500 marking to this woman has planning to do, she might have 1187 00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:17,600 an afternoon where she's agreed this contract, because it's a 1188 00:53:17,607 --> 00:53:20,900 morning nor point for contract. Therefore, she has to go and do 1189 00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:23,700 something, which can't be moved, but even if she doesn't have 1190 00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:26,900 something which Can't Be Moved, it's not her job. 1191 00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:30,100 Let's repeat that one more time. It's not her job. 1192 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,300 Yep. She could. 1193 00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:34,500 She I don't understand it. I'd loved. 1194 00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:37,400 I really want to have someone on I truly do. 1195 00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:40,300 Who has this kind of mindset of this person whose head of this 1196 00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:44,200 department and just, and I'll pretend to be civil for five 1197 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,300 minutes with her talking, but I just want to hear like their 1198 00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:51,400 rationale because maybe I'm missing something here, maybe 1199 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,000 I'm really out of touch, but to me, the argument always seems to 1200 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,900 be well, it's work. Well, what are you gonna do? 1201 00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:02,400 Well, isn't it a tough one sport, but that's when the 1202 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,200 meaning at that doesn't wash with me. 1203 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,100 I don't get you need to explicitly Lane how it's 1204 00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:09,100 acceptable for you to expect me to do something which is 1205 00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:13,000 literally not in my contract just because get over yourself. 1206 00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:15,800 I'm not doing it. Well Done Hayden, you got me 1207 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,600 riled up. Do you want to carry on with 1208 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,300 this and thank you for listening to this episode of Dylan's 1209 00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:23,300 rants? I mean I'll just touch on one 1210 00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:25,400 point a bit more which is you mentioned trapped time. 1211 00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:27,600 I think it's interesting, I think it's good to talk about 1212 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:28,800 it. I don't think everyone knows 1213 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,600 what trapped time is necessarily, but for those 1214 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,600 listening, it might apply to your jobs as well. 1215 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,000 I don't know, but it certainly doesn't teaching, so the any you 1216 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,100 guidance? Says that trapped time. 1217 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,200 Is any use the union for teachers? 1218 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,900 Just was Hayden. Let's say things and even tell 1219 00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:43,700 you what the mean, okay, I'm just gonna say the union the 1220 00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:47,000 union let's say we well you know, all right. 1221 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:52,400 You can't say words. So the Union's defined trapped 1222 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,500 time essentially as time in between two expert expected, 1223 00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:59,500 part of your contract where that you're not paid for that time 1224 00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:01,700 but it's not enough time to actually go home or like 1225 00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:03,800 basically have a life. So it's trapped time because 1226 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,500 what, you know, you don't actually have to do anything and 1227 00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:07,100 that. So this is a Perfect example. 1228 00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:09,600 If you finish your contract finishes that that's a 12:30 1229 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,500 okay and especially the teaching world you're probably realistic. 1230 00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:15,600 Not going to leave the building at 12:30 on the dot. 1231 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,600 It's more likely the kids are going to go out to lunch at that 1232 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,400 time and then you've got you get yourself sorted, right? 1233 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,800 And then you expected to go to a meeting at 3:15. 1234 00:55:23,300 --> 00:55:25,600 All of that time in between that is not long enough that's not 1235 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,400 reasonable amount of time for that person to go and carry on 1236 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,800 doing whatever they have a commitments. 1237 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,400 They might have with their day, so it's called traps time. 1238 00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:36,900 And if time has been trapped, it is a requirement that Is now 1239 00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:38,700 part of your director time and you're paid for it. 1240 00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:41,000 So that's the argument people are constantly having and what 1241 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,000 they're battling against them, this woman clearly battling 1242 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,400 against this because she's being asked to have trapped time every 1243 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,300 single week with absolutely no remuneration or any 1244 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,700 consideration or compromise that you said for that time which is 1245 00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:56,000 just completely unfair. And I'm on her side and I think 1246 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,600 it's ridiculous. Well I guess at the end of the 1247 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,300 day all I can say at least a director time system is 1248 00:56:01,300 --> 00:56:02,700 completely fair and works perfectly. 1249 00:56:02,700 --> 00:56:04,400 So I mean do you just take the risk? 1250 00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:08,800 Yeah, don't Go there. Okay, I think it's time to wrap 1251 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,200 it up there. So before we finish a couple of 1252 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,900 things, guys, please get in touch with a story from the 1253 00:56:11,900 --> 00:56:13,400 classroom. I know there are so many 1254 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,200 listeners. I say it every week that kind of 1255 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,300 listen along, love the podcast. If you have a story, it can be 1256 00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:20,100 anonymous so it can be embarrassing. 1257 00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:22,200 We won't reveal your name. Well, no, because we're message 1258 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,900 us but we won't stay on the podcast. 1259 00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:27,100 Please get in touch with us. We are so excited to get guest 1260 00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:28,600 on the podcast. We're not going to say who yet, 1261 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,800 but some really exciting people are coming on here to share 1262 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,700 their wisdom, share their stories were. 1263 00:56:33,700 --> 00:56:35,600 So looking forward to bringing it to you guys. 1264 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,100 So stacks of Listen again to what was a 50-50 episode? 1265 00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:41,500 They really, I guess we're a little bit of chat and the 50% 1266 00:56:41,500 --> 00:56:45,800 you chatting 50% you ranting. So it's good which I know just 1267 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,600 1% of you in there somewhere. Was it? 1268 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,600 My baldness wall? We nearly went an episode. 1269 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,500 Oh, that mentioning it. We were so close. 1270 00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:53,600 I'm actually annoyed that you've done. 1271 00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:54,900 No I don't actually really annoyed me. 1272 00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:57,100 Ask you why don't you wrap me up one more time? 1273 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,700 I think I think there's actually going to be a different title 1274 00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:01,900 for this podcast. Anyway, I'm getting riled up, 1275 00:57:01,900 --> 00:57:04,300 just thinking about it. Dylan gets riled part 1. 1276 00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:07,700 I don't know, residential's it. If you're still listening, it's 1277 00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:10,000 unbelievable. If you're still watching, get a 1278 00:57:10,008 --> 00:57:12,000 life when I see you next week. What you doing? 1279 00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:12,800 Bye, guys.