1 00:00:00,060 --> 00:00:01,940 And everyone, back to another episode of Teach Sleep. 2 00:00:01,950 --> 00:00:02,910 Repeat. My name is Dylan. 3 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,280 And my name is Hayden. Hayden. 4 00:00:04,290 --> 00:00:05,480 Hayden, I'm. Very well. 5 00:00:05,490 --> 00:00:06,330 That was quick. Thank you. 6 00:00:06,340 --> 00:00:07,070 How are you? Good. 7 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:07,950 Thank you. Not bad. 8 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,110 Let's crack. On I was imagining, you know, 9 00:00:10,120 --> 00:00:13,150 day making a montage, right and I couldn't do it cause it's much 10 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,610 worse making a montage of your intro because I reckon I could 11 00:00:16,620 --> 00:00:20,830 overlay like the last 60 episodes and like frame for 12 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,500 frame, sound for sound. That's exactly the same. 13 00:00:23,510 --> 00:00:25,510 What do you? Think one of the benefits of my 14 00:00:25,570 --> 00:00:29,630 this personality trait of mine which the repetition needs to be 15 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,450 exactly the same. When you go to order a Indian, 16 00:00:32,460 --> 00:00:34,300 you could order for me an Indian Curry. 17 00:00:34,310 --> 00:00:36,520 Probably you could say the introduction to this. 18 00:00:36,610 --> 00:00:38,920 Podcast I'll have a chicken tikka Madras this is you go on 19 00:00:39,410 --> 00:00:43,560 you probably have 20 how you feel yeah OK toll order you from 20 00:00:43,570 --> 00:00:45,520 start again if you're. Really drink and. 21 00:00:45,530 --> 00:00:47,620 Anything, everything right you go in there, you'd say all could 22 00:00:47,630 --> 00:00:51,190 have a kind of have a either a singer or a cobra, depending on 23 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,550 what they do. I'll be more slimmed yet, 24 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:53,680 whatever's on tap. Whatever. 25 00:00:54,210 --> 00:00:56,340 That's what you do when you come over and jump on you. 26 00:00:56,350 --> 00:00:57,550 But ohh. And you'd be thinking, oh, I 27 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:58,630 want more than everyone else. Yes. 28 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,190 So let's just make sure I get the maximum here. 29 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,990 Yeah. Can we have at least two Yep, 30 00:01:02,490 --> 00:01:03,970 Yep, Yep, and then come around you? 31 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,500 The good thing about two each, by the way, is when people go, 32 00:01:07,510 --> 00:01:09,470 I'm not sure not should just get them in case because then I know 33 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,760 I can get then you eat. Three or four. 34 00:01:10,770 --> 00:01:12,070 Yeah. And then it comes to the meal 35 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:12,830 you like. Ohh. 36 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,030 Look at the menu as if you don't know. 37 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,310 Sorry. What part of the. 38 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,430 I don't remember asking you to impersonate me. 39 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,920 OK, sorry. I won't do that. 40 00:01:18,930 --> 00:01:22,400 I will actually, I'm just looking the menu because I 41 00:01:22,410 --> 00:01:25,200 already know what I want, but also come back to me. 42 00:01:25,210 --> 00:01:27,000 Come back to me, but I know everyone knows what you want, 43 00:01:27,010 --> 00:01:28,860 Dylan. And then you get a chicken 44 00:01:28,870 --> 00:01:32,160 taking address. Yep, with pilau rice. 45 00:01:32,210 --> 00:01:34,460 Yep. And you would share it on your 46 00:01:34,470 --> 00:01:35,580 body If someone else was getting. 47 00:01:35,590 --> 00:01:37,820 I would, But you'd absolutely have your own Peshwari naan. 48 00:01:39,230 --> 00:01:40,150 Yeah. So there you go. 49 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,280 There's your order. Every time. 50 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:44,720 They were listening to this. Episode there was certain things 51 00:01:45,190 --> 00:01:47,480 on an Indian takeaway because you know, it's that classic 52 00:01:47,490 --> 00:01:50,350 Smithy thing where he's like, no, no, I've ordered it. 53 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,780 Yeah, it's mine. There is certain things that are 54 00:01:52,790 --> 00:01:54,320 untouchables. Like when some honestly, when 55 00:01:54,330 --> 00:01:56,640 someone turns to me and says do you wanna share that on a bit of 56 00:01:56,650 --> 00:02:00,000 me dies inside because I don't want any single part of my Nan 57 00:02:00,010 --> 00:02:03,590 bread to be with anyone else other than me because no, 58 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,900 because I've got in my head I know I'm going to eat it as I go 59 00:02:05,910 --> 00:02:08,620 right with my dish and I'm also going to as I go. 60 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:11,760 There's a portion of that bread set aside for dipping. 61 00:02:11,810 --> 00:02:13,660 Because you get your little, you get a little dish, don't you? 62 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:16,080 If you Curry and you put your wacky chicken on your plate and 63 00:02:16,090 --> 00:02:19,180 there's this beautiful oily Curry sauce full of goodness and 64 00:02:19,190 --> 00:02:20,800 tastiness. That doesn't work as a sentence. 65 00:02:20,810 --> 00:02:22,300 Is it beautiful? Oily. 66 00:02:22,810 --> 00:02:24,140 The rest of that is the already void. 67 00:02:24,150 --> 00:02:27,050 No, Anyone who's on the team Curry knows that. 68 00:02:27,060 --> 00:02:30,590 That beautiful. What you do are you a sharer or 69 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,610 are you a have my own meal I. Don't, but I did do a share once 70 00:02:33,620 --> 00:02:35,950 because I really, I really wanted to try something else, 71 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,330 but I panicked that it's gonna be rubbish. 72 00:02:37,340 --> 00:02:39,490 Yeah, I know get chicken tikka Madras. 73 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:42,680 It's gonna be a 7 1/2 out of 10 or an 8 out of 10 every week, 74 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,870 every week. Like I go every week every time. 75 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,090 But I did get a a Lambo owner and that was bloody lovely as 76 00:02:49,100 --> 00:02:52,510 well. So yeah, I'm, I'm sure people 77 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,400 have really wanted that information for about two. 78 00:02:54,410 --> 00:02:56,850 To three minutes in, we are going to tell you a story about 79 00:02:56,860 --> 00:02:57,980 school that's hopefully gonna make. 80 00:02:57,990 --> 00:02:59,940 You Ohh the teacher podcast. Yeah, yeah. 81 00:02:59,950 --> 00:03:02,300 So I hadn't the one of the teacher nightmares happened to 82 00:03:02,310 --> 00:03:04,080 me this week. I feel like this is a genuine 83 00:03:04,090 --> 00:03:07,580 fear of most people. I sat on a chair in front of the 84 00:03:07,590 --> 00:03:11,860 whole class and the legs gave way and it collapsed and I fell 85 00:03:11,870 --> 00:03:15,900 backwards and my legs rolled over my head and they all 86 00:03:15,910 --> 00:03:17,880 laughed so much and I laughed as well. 87 00:03:17,890 --> 00:03:20,460 But I was thinking, Oh my God, I can't believe this. 88 00:03:20,670 --> 00:03:22,640 Was a Childs yeah. Yeah, yeah, right. 89 00:03:22,650 --> 00:03:25,100 Charles Chair, we were watching a video, so I went to kind of go 90 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:27,180 away from my teacher desk is right next to my screen. 91 00:03:27,190 --> 00:03:29,260 So rather than standing there looking at, I kind of went 92 00:03:29,350 --> 00:03:31,700 toward more towards the back middle of the room and sat on a 93 00:03:31,710 --> 00:03:33,420 spare. Chair and it just collapsed. 94 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:38,450 And they all turned round and were like, and my legs are just 95 00:03:38,460 --> 00:03:39,790 in the air. And I held it for a minute. 96 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,000 I thought he got a relish in these moments. 97 00:03:42,010 --> 00:03:43,700 If you look too embarrassed, it's. 98 00:03:43,710 --> 00:03:45,060 It's almost like it will linger longer. 99 00:03:45,070 --> 00:03:46,500 Yeah. So I owned the moment, even 100 00:03:46,510 --> 00:03:48,740 though I was thinking for God's. Sake why is this happened? 101 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,040 And I was like, OK, have a quick look, then look at the position. 102 00:03:51,050 --> 00:03:53,850 I mean, guys, before I get up, my legs are just in the air. 103 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,710 The leg is completely. Your legs in the air. 104 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,750 In the air. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 105 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,170 So sorry again. Very, very embarrassing, but 106 00:04:03,180 --> 00:04:04,770 kind of funny. So you, at least it wasn't in 107 00:04:04,780 --> 00:04:06,430 the assembly like we had someone last year. 108 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,970 Were you in the assembly? We, yeah, we had a guest speaker 109 00:04:09,980 --> 00:04:11,810 in. We had a guest speaker in going 110 00:04:11,820 --> 00:04:14,330 to talk to the kids. It was, it wasn't even like 111 00:04:14,340 --> 00:04:16,769 someone in school doing it. We had someone outside come in 112 00:04:16,779 --> 00:04:23,120 who was like a Team GB boxer. I'd come in one stop, Sat by 113 00:04:23,130 --> 00:04:25,640 year six, the worst year group to sit next to when you do 114 00:04:25,650 --> 00:04:27,840 anything like that. And honestly sat down in the 115 00:04:27,850 --> 00:04:30,090 chair, completely gave way. The whole assembly stopped. 116 00:04:30,100 --> 00:04:33,520 Every like 400 people just turn. Ohh that's embarrassing, I 117 00:04:33,530 --> 00:04:35,280 didn't see it. I do remember being told about 118 00:04:35,290 --> 00:04:37,670 that and that's how that's pure embarrassment. 119 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,680 Sorry, staff member, entire school. 120 00:04:39,770 --> 00:04:41,000 What? What's this going on about 121 00:04:41,010 --> 00:04:42,660 Police talk? Well, this one was quite sweet. 122 00:04:42,670 --> 00:04:46,030 OK, we had in year six, we have the police, the police, the 123 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,340 police, someone comes in. Just an enigma. 124 00:04:49,390 --> 00:04:49,860 Yeah. Yeah. 125 00:04:49,870 --> 00:04:52,630 The police is in. Who's in the police? 126 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,220 The police are in, they come in to do a little talk with the 127 00:04:55,230 --> 00:04:58,170 year sixes and it's mostly about transition because obviously 128 00:04:58,180 --> 00:04:59,600 police are a bit more involved in secondary schools. 129 00:04:59,610 --> 00:05:01,980 There's normally a community officer, at least in our area. 130 00:05:01,990 --> 00:05:04,240 I don't if that's normal, but a community officer kind of 131 00:05:04,250 --> 00:05:07,700 assigned to each school and he came in as our local feeder 132 00:05:07,710 --> 00:05:09,690 secondary schools like this. I'm the guy you're going to see 133 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:10,880 around. Basically this is what it's all 134 00:05:10,890 --> 00:05:12,350 about. You might be feeling nervous 135 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,740 about secondary school and. You should be the police are 136 00:05:15,750 --> 00:05:17,390 here. He walked around with this. 137 00:05:18,870 --> 00:05:19,390 Hello. Hello. 138 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,350 Hello. Yeah, just secondary school. 139 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,470 So funny. Anyway, he just did this, did 140 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,150 this talk and and during he had lots of questions with the kids 141 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,570 and he was basically just trying to make me feel a little bit 142 00:05:28,580 --> 00:05:30,260 less anxious about going to secondary school. 143 00:05:30,500 --> 00:05:32,930 And it was weird. It was kind of like nothing to 144 00:05:32,940 --> 00:05:35,470 do with being the police for for most of this, but whatever. 145 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,590 And he asked the kids at one point he was like, what were you 146 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,710 miss from secondary school? One of the kids put that from 147 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,790 secondary school, from primary. School got that wrong, didn't 148 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,960 you? Said I'm one of the kids put 149 00:05:44,970 --> 00:05:47,640 their hand up when he asked her and her response was I'm going 150 00:05:47,650 --> 00:05:49,890 to miss Mr Stevens. And it was a really sweet 151 00:05:49,900 --> 00:05:51,460 moment. And she wasn't even taking the 152 00:05:51,470 --> 00:05:52,090 mic. No. 153 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,590 And how much did you pay her for that? 154 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,940 Was 20 lbs. Yeah. 155 00:05:54,950 --> 00:05:56,200 You like never mentioned the chair. 156 00:05:56,210 --> 00:06:00,540 Yeah, I I stole the the policeman's cluster of what's it 157 00:06:00,550 --> 00:06:01,370 called? Pepper spray. 158 00:06:01,380 --> 00:06:03,470 Like urgent payment then. Yeah, Yeah. 159 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,710 Seems like a fair, fair trade. Yeah, fair trade. 160 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,070 Nice. Cool. 161 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:09,070 So anything, anything else? Self indulgence. 162 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,400 Tell me about this week. Well, I suppose you can move on 163 00:06:11,410 --> 00:06:13,150 to your boring week that's all about me. 164 00:06:14,420 --> 00:06:16,920 Honestly, I look back at the week we did a bit at the start, 165 00:06:17,340 --> 00:06:18,980 which again, we assume people wanna hear. 166 00:06:18,990 --> 00:06:21,370 Don't know if you do well, but anyway. 167 00:06:21,510 --> 00:06:24,100 And I thought, oh, what happened this week? 168 00:06:24,350 --> 00:06:26,800 And I had one of them really normal boring weeks. 169 00:06:26,870 --> 00:06:28,960 Great. We're moving on then, so. 170 00:06:29,210 --> 00:06:31,260 The only thing I did have was it was assessment week. 171 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,370 And again, we think I remember saying this last year, you're in 172 00:06:34,380 --> 00:06:35,770 year 6. Assessment view is very 173 00:06:35,780 --> 00:06:38,360 different. You kind of do the Sats external 174 00:06:38,370 --> 00:06:40,580 gets sent off and you just kind of go on your own tangent. 175 00:06:40,590 --> 00:06:42,420 Then you're doing shows and stuff. 176 00:06:42,470 --> 00:06:45,630 Yeah, 345 is like, it's just, it's just loving which we carry 177 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,220 on maths and English obviously all the way through always and 178 00:06:48,230 --> 00:06:51,470 there's no discussion there. But we have random like 179 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,770 assessment week in times 6 and always seems quite early. 180 00:06:54,820 --> 00:06:57,430 Always, always find it really weird when my kids are sitting a 181 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,800 maths test and we haven't done angles yet, right, Because there 182 00:07:00,810 --> 00:07:02,850 is still a term left of the school year. 183 00:07:03,060 --> 00:07:05,510 So that's when you think about it, that's one sixth of their 184 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,310 learning we actually haven't done before they sit the 185 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,390 assessment. So when it comes to the 186 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,850 assessment, had kids putting their hand up saying sorry, what 187 00:07:12,860 --> 00:07:14,240 does it mean? What's the name of this shape? 188 00:07:14,250 --> 00:07:15,920 Because we haven't learned about trapeziums yet. 189 00:07:15,930 --> 00:07:18,240 Yeah, we haven't done that. We haven't done that block yet. 190 00:07:18,250 --> 00:07:20,730 So I found that bizarre. That's just like a side note of 191 00:07:20,740 --> 00:07:22,430 when we test kits and stuff we haven't done yet. 192 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,920 And then that is what they've got at the end of year four 193 00:07:25,210 --> 00:07:26,400 because that's their assessment grade. 194 00:07:26,410 --> 00:07:29,280 It's very odd. Anyway, what I found hilarious 195 00:07:29,290 --> 00:07:32,310 was it it's always fun. The kids did really well on 196 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,510 their test. I was really impressed. 197 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,370 I was really, really happy with them because they tried so hard. 198 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:39,350 But you have to remember sometimes they are 8, you know, 199 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,170 they they are 8 years old. So there's the odd thing. 200 00:07:42,210 --> 00:07:45,320 It's just absolutely hilarious. And I'd one question, I put this 201 00:07:45,330 --> 00:07:48,410 on my Instagram and I guess it's not even your Instagram, my 202 00:07:48,420 --> 00:07:50,290 Instagram, because I'm everything you pop up. 203 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:51,350 Really. And then I did a story. 204 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,630 You did. We'll come on to that. 205 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,250 But yeah, we did a test and I guess it was funny to start with 206 00:07:56,260 --> 00:07:57,850 and I was just like, that's funny when they just put a 207 00:07:57,860 --> 00:07:59,640 nonsense, especially in comprehension. 208 00:07:59,750 --> 00:08:03,460 So the the question was how far in advance should you book a 209 00:08:03,470 --> 00:08:06,630 party to to avoid disappointment? 210 00:08:06,690 --> 00:08:08,640 This Yeah. So this, this this was off a 211 00:08:08,650 --> 00:08:11,620 text, which is an information text about booking a pool party 212 00:08:11,630 --> 00:08:14,260 for your children. So it was a non fiction text. 213 00:08:14,270 --> 00:08:18,380 And in in the text it said you should book at least a month in 214 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:20,960 advance to make sure you get space. 215 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,240 So the whole point was the the kind of language of booking in 216 00:08:25,250 --> 00:08:28,010 advance is something a lot of my year fours will have absolutely 217 00:08:28,020 --> 00:08:28,800 no idea what. That means. 218 00:08:28,870 --> 00:08:31,170 It's quite complex. It is quite complex, but but the 219 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,510 saving grace was in the text. It used the exact same language, 220 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,220 right? So, you know, even if maybe you 221 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:38,679 were unsure is a comprehension skill is supposed to be like, 222 00:08:38,690 --> 00:08:41,270 well, as adults, we're reading stuff and there's always we 223 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,470 don't know, but we kind of just take. 224 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,280 Context If they hadn't used the book in advance and it would 225 00:08:46,290 --> 00:08:48,170 have been a little bit. It would have been testing vocab 226 00:08:48,180 --> 00:08:50,370 as well as they're like influence and or sorry 227 00:08:50,380 --> 00:08:52,180 retrieval. The question that they could 228 00:08:52,190 --> 00:08:54,870 just find that and I was like, fair enough, that's a skill and 229 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,190 a bunch of them got it, but loads of them really randomly 230 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,680 putting them out of money. Hmm. 231 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,050 And at first it was like, how far in advance should you book 8 232 00:09:02,060 --> 00:09:04,120 lbs per child? And I was like, ohh, there's 233 00:09:04,130 --> 00:09:06,970 some and then someone else put 8 lbs per child and then someone 234 00:09:06,980 --> 00:09:09,860 else put £50 deposit and I was like, what is going on? 235 00:09:09,870 --> 00:09:12,540 Like I really, cause I really interest me if that kind of 236 00:09:12,550 --> 00:09:13,780 stuff. I try and Wrack my brains. 237 00:09:13,790 --> 00:09:16,700 I love misconceptions as a teacher I and that's why I like 238 00:09:16,710 --> 00:09:17,960 Maths I. Think Yeah, you wanna know what 239 00:09:17,970 --> 00:09:18,610 happened? Yeah, yeah. 240 00:09:18,620 --> 00:09:20,800 You wanna know the exact thought process that went through their 241 00:09:20,810 --> 00:09:22,740 brain to in order to address it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 242 00:09:22,750 --> 00:09:25,350 So I don't know what's your gut instinct there of how far in 243 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,060 advance should you book to avoid disappointment? 244 00:09:27,070 --> 00:09:30,260 Why are they taking these numerical funny figures out of 245 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:30,680 the? Texture. 246 00:09:30,690 --> 00:09:32,670 Well, first question, did they make those numbers up 247 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:34,510 completely? Or no way from the text. 248 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:37,190 So indifferent in different parts of the text. 249 00:09:37,260 --> 00:09:39,470 Those were the only things that are written as digits though. 250 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,060 Yeah. So I'm thinking it's something 251 00:09:41,070 --> 00:09:43,250 to do with that now as well. Are they thinking it needs to be 252 00:09:43,260 --> 00:09:45,950 an amount because it says how much or how many maybe and they 253 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,890 kind of just scanning for an amount and saying, well, I don't 254 00:09:47,900 --> 00:09:49,530 know what an. Amount question was how far in 255 00:09:49,540 --> 00:09:51,750 advance? Was yeah, I know, but just the 256 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,520 how maybe maybe I've only exposed them to how questions. 257 00:09:55,530 --> 00:09:57,330 Yeah, in the context of how many? 258 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:58,750 Yeah. And my only thought was I 259 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,680 haven't seen the text, so you can just that sounds wrong. 260 00:10:00,690 --> 00:10:02,520 But my thought was maybe somewhere in the text it said 261 00:10:02,530 --> 00:10:04,860 how much a month costs. Uh, no, it was. 262 00:10:04,870 --> 00:10:08,700 It was basically it was 8 lbs per child for bookings, right? 263 00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:11,640 And £50 deposit to get. Yeah, so those facts were right. 264 00:10:11,650 --> 00:10:12,720 Yeah, yeah, there's, there's those. 265 00:10:12,730 --> 00:10:15,600 They didn't make those monies. That's why basically when when I 266 00:10:15,610 --> 00:10:18,560 look at tests as a teacher, when children are put an answer down, 267 00:10:18,570 --> 00:10:21,380 there's almost 3 categories for answers in a test right now. 268 00:10:21,390 --> 00:10:24,060 Category one, they get it right and I'm like amazing. 269 00:10:24,250 --> 00:10:26,980 Category three is they just get it completely wrong or it's 270 00:10:26,990 --> 00:10:28,780 blank and I'm just like, they had no idea. 271 00:10:28,930 --> 00:10:32,280 But there is a category too, where actually as a teacher, I, 272 00:10:32,290 --> 00:10:34,010 I think I'm quite proud of the effort. 273 00:10:34,020 --> 00:10:36,000 And it's like you, there's all I say to them all the time. 274 00:10:36,010 --> 00:10:37,060 They're gonna be questions and assess. 275 00:10:37,070 --> 00:10:39,100 You don't know. But what I'd love to see guys, 276 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:40,320 you're putting a sensible answer. 277 00:10:40,330 --> 00:10:43,660 Yeah. So I in my head that counted to 278 00:10:43,670 --> 00:10:46,770 me as a sensible answer at least because I could see a thought 279 00:10:46,780 --> 00:10:48,920 process in their head of them saying, well, I don't know. 280 00:10:48,990 --> 00:10:51,160 It says how we've done how many? Maybe it's a number? 281 00:10:51,170 --> 00:10:52,740 It mentions a booking. Exactly. 282 00:10:52,750 --> 00:10:54,070 And it's to do with something like that. 283 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,560 So they've taken the money, put it in and I was thinking, OK, 284 00:10:57,630 --> 00:10:58,860 it's the same favourite to avoid. 285 00:10:58,870 --> 00:11:00,440 Asked the question who? Right. 286 00:11:00,450 --> 00:11:02,310 Yeah, they get it completely wrong, but they put the name of 287 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,800 a person from the text at least. Yeah. 288 00:11:03,810 --> 00:11:05,930 And and that's when I'm like, that's good, that's good, guys, 289 00:11:05,940 --> 00:11:07,330 That's good. Understanding good. 290 00:11:07,340 --> 00:11:10,120 Test technique, I, I reckon it's probably quite simple in terms 291 00:11:10,130 --> 00:11:12,140 of they just didn't remotely understand the phrase. 292 00:11:12,150 --> 00:11:13,700 How can advance, right? And they've scanned the 293 00:11:13,710 --> 00:11:15,440 question, like you said, the category two, they've really 294 00:11:15,450 --> 00:11:17,330 tried to look for something else in the question. 295 00:11:17,340 --> 00:11:19,960 They know, they've seen the phrase that at the end something 296 00:11:19,970 --> 00:11:23,410 something the booking and they're like, ohh, OK, I know 297 00:11:23,420 --> 00:11:25,720 the booking costs money. Have not been asked that before 298 00:11:25,770 --> 00:11:28,220 I put how much the booking. Costs and funnily enough, two 299 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:30,860 questions later, it was how much does it cost per child? 300 00:11:30,940 --> 00:11:32,920 Alright, so it was before that. That's my point. 301 00:11:32,930 --> 00:11:34,550 So you're absolutely right. They probably thought maybe it's 302 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,670 that they got there and they're not old enough to think or they 303 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:39,180 wouldn't have the same. Exactly that. 304 00:11:39,190 --> 00:11:40,840 Yeah. So that was really interesting 305 00:11:40,850 --> 00:11:43,160 to me. And just in general, I find 306 00:11:43,170 --> 00:11:46,100 marking assessments, I don't know about you, but any other 307 00:11:46,110 --> 00:11:48,980 teachers out there as well? I put it off and I put it off 308 00:11:49,050 --> 00:11:50,580 and put it off. Especially English 309 00:11:50,590 --> 00:11:54,430 comprehension, but with maths I do it immediately and I quite 310 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,070 like it because I can just it's number, number, number, number. 311 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,040 There's not really much scope for that. 312 00:11:59,050 --> 00:12:02,140 Where is he saying with reading comp it's this answer. 313 00:12:02,150 --> 00:12:03,400 Ohh. By the way, here are five other 314 00:12:03,410 --> 00:12:05,540 options that are OK. And it takes a lot of mental 315 00:12:05,550 --> 00:12:07,110 load, I think. Yeah, I think maybe because I 316 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,450 just really like maths as well. I don't know. 317 00:12:08,460 --> 00:12:10,830 Yeah, but I always do the same. I'm a massive great time. 318 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,810 Immediately start getting them done because I want to see 319 00:12:12,850 --> 00:12:13,720 English. I'm like. 320 00:12:13,860 --> 00:12:16,150 Last time I'm gonna talk about before we move on is I 321 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,730 introduced hate into something this week and I didn't realise I 322 00:12:18,740 --> 00:12:21,910 was introducing him to it and I knew it was the first time 323 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,880 Hayden has ever had it was going to a butchers. 324 00:12:27,090 --> 00:12:30,690 So the reason why I knew it was Hayden's first time coming to 325 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:33,760 the butchers was because we got to the we got to the window 326 00:12:33,770 --> 00:12:35,940 where they put the meat on the front and they have the prices 327 00:12:35,950 --> 00:12:40,350 on there and it goes that much for a sausage. 328 00:12:40,490 --> 00:12:43,510 And I was like, hey, it's per kilogramme had no concept and 329 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,820 the fact that they just weighed. Them bought them. 330 00:12:45,950 --> 00:12:47,290 I was like, how much was it again? 331 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:50,420 You, Hayden, I've already told you three times it's on weight. 332 00:12:50,430 --> 00:12:54,270 There wasn't a prize. So ohh what this burger cost? 333 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:59,520 Oh my God man, a £50 deposit for lamb Shank. 334 00:12:59,590 --> 00:13:02,360 Barbecue, better barbecue. And we got home and and then it 335 00:13:02,370 --> 00:13:03,290 was torrential. Torrential. 336 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:05,060 Rain. Ohh, yeah, that's good. 337 00:13:05,070 --> 00:13:08,680 But you, you were saying about how just is it this day and age, 338 00:13:08,690 --> 00:13:11,520 maybe other people can help us, but you weren't expecting such 339 00:13:11,530 --> 00:13:13,640 lovely service from the butchers. 340 00:13:15,100 --> 00:13:17,250 I don't know if you guys experiencing this, maybe again 341 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,190 it could be our area. Yeah, or the fact we, the fact 342 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,830 you've never been in the butchers, because that's my. 343 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,020 Experience of Butcher But my experience of buying things in 344 00:13:24,030 --> 00:13:27,300 general over a counter is you're generally served by someone who 345 00:13:27,310 --> 00:13:29,650 does not have a stake in the business and they're probably 346 00:13:29,660 --> 00:13:31,420 quite young. Quite often they're not really 347 00:13:31,430 --> 00:13:33,080 interested. You just don't get much back 348 00:13:33,090 --> 00:13:34,790 these days is what I'm saying. And I'm used to that. 349 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,350 I don't even care. Why would you? 350 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,230 Yeah, they're getting paid minimum wage most of the times, 351 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,880 I get it. Whereas in the butchers they 352 00:13:39,890 --> 00:13:42,510 were just extremely nice. There's like 4-4 blokes. 353 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:43,580 I. Think they're all they're all 354 00:13:43,590 --> 00:13:44,630 butchers though. And they were just. 355 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,080 Hi there. How you doing today? 356 00:13:46,090 --> 00:13:47,680 How good weekend. I'm just like, ohh, yeah. 357 00:13:47,750 --> 00:13:48,640 Hello. That's really. 358 00:13:48,650 --> 00:13:50,390 You seem genuine. Yeah, yeah. 359 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,360 Yeah, and it's because they all have a stake in, it's their 360 00:13:52,370 --> 00:13:54,640 butchers, you know, they they want customers to come back. 361 00:13:54,650 --> 00:13:57,100 Yeah, more than I guess I would when I worked at Tesco. 362 00:13:57,140 --> 00:14:00,400 Yeah, why would you care? You're basically here drawing a 363 00:14:00,410 --> 00:14:03,120 comparison between huge, massive corporations that have 364 00:14:03,130 --> 00:14:06,870 absolutely exploited capitalism to their own end to a nice small 365 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,360 family. Ohh. 366 00:14:08,370 --> 00:14:10,330 That's why we should support small family run businesses. 367 00:14:10,340 --> 00:14:13,340 Yeah, the problem is they usually cost more because they 368 00:14:13,350 --> 00:14:14,620 have. To yeah, it was quite expensive. 369 00:14:15,390 --> 00:14:17,230 Tonight, buddy, nice was nice. It was much better. 370 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:19,290 OK, cool. Should crack on. 371 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,320 We got two main things we want to talk about today. 372 00:14:21,540 --> 00:14:24,290 The title of the episode. I kind of my section. 373 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:25,790 I suppose we'll come onto that towards the end. 374 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,470 But before then, Hayden really wants to chat about something in 375 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:33,700 the news, right? Yeah, let's do a Jingle, right, 376 00:14:33,710 --> 00:14:34,760 Dylan? You got your script ready this 377 00:14:34,770 --> 00:14:35,710 time. I got my script ready. 378 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:36,880 Good. Let's talk private school. 379 00:14:36,890 --> 00:14:39,510 Third, third attempt. Let's talk private schools. 380 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,840 Telling so in the news, probably seen the Labour government, not 381 00:14:42,850 --> 00:14:44,900 government yet. Labour when they maybe get into 382 00:14:44,910 --> 00:14:46,490 government. I'm thinking about adding VAT to 383 00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:47,770 private school tuition fees, Right? 384 00:14:47,780 --> 00:14:50,010 And there's a lot of backlash about it in the news now. 385 00:14:50,020 --> 00:14:52,870 I put on Instagram story. I was an Instagram, guys. 386 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,110 It's not just Dylan's account. Yeah, that was the second story 387 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,760 in a year and a half, and it was really, really provocative. 388 00:14:57,770 --> 00:15:00,810 Really provocative, basically saying that how I feel about 389 00:15:00,820 --> 00:15:03,600 this, which is absolutely agree. We should be gonna be 18. 390 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,330 Quite afraid. Neutral, right? 391 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:07,510 Yeah. And then halfway through. 392 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:08,570 Ohh. Think of the Barbie. 393 00:15:10,290 --> 00:15:12,460 I started taking the Mick in. I will tell you because the 394 00:15:12,470 --> 00:15:14,550 story is gone. I actually said ohh no we might 395 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,600 have to go to ohh yucky state schools for the private schools 396 00:15:18,610 --> 00:15:20,280 anyway. So you think that it's a good 397 00:15:20,290 --> 00:15:21,970 policy? I I think it's a good policy. 398 00:15:21,980 --> 00:15:24,580 We'll get into the nitty gritty of why I think that is not. 399 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,380 I haven't just listened to one source and be like, yeah, agree. 400 00:15:27,390 --> 00:15:29,500 I've really, really thought about this and I know I haven't 401 00:15:29,510 --> 00:15:31,600 discussed this with you on this because I want your kind of raw 402 00:15:31,610 --> 00:15:32,800 opinions. Yeah, I'm going to hit you with 403 00:15:32,810 --> 00:15:35,640 a few facts first, just stats just kind of ground this 404 00:15:35,650 --> 00:15:37,320 conversation and I'm going to see what you. 405 00:15:37,330 --> 00:15:39,550 Think so These these are just these are just stats, right? 406 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,820 These aren't like this is from a source. 407 00:15:40,830 --> 00:15:43,020 It's just how it is. Yeah, they're just kind of just 408 00:15:43,030 --> 00:15:45,850 random facts that are going to be useful for understanding the 409 00:15:45,860 --> 00:15:47,340 context of private school when we get to. 410 00:15:47,860 --> 00:15:50,070 And I think a lot of people actually don't have this. 411 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,620 It's very ideological, this battle. 412 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,440 So it'll be good for me and for probably people listening just 413 00:15:54,450 --> 00:15:55,630 to think, OK, well, what are the solid? 414 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,820 Facts then exactly that right. So I'm gonna start with an 415 00:15:57,830 --> 00:15:59,870 average, alright. And and I really have and and I 416 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,610 say average because the scope of private tuition fees is massive. 417 00:16:03,620 --> 00:16:06,460 Yeah, you think of Eaton and have massive tuition fees 418 00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:07,960 versus, I don't know, whatever your lowest. 419 00:16:07,970 --> 00:16:09,420 Well, Rishi's listening, so I hope you like. 420 00:16:09,430 --> 00:16:11,150 Ohh, I paid a lot more than that. 421 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,360 Don't undersell my. Family. 422 00:16:12,370 --> 00:16:14,750 Yeah, same as you. Guys, I went without Sky TV for 423 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,110 that. Yeah, exactly. 424 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,820 So here are some averages. All right, so across the UK the 425 00:16:19,830 --> 00:16:23,580 average tuition fee for the year for a parent was £15,000. 426 00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:24,920 OK. So about 5K. 427 00:16:24,930 --> 00:16:26,280 Big time. Something like that, yeah, 428 00:16:26,290 --> 00:16:28,000 roughly, yeah. And any of that, like I said, 429 00:16:28,010 --> 00:16:30,900 there are other, yeah, there are other amounts, but £15,000. 430 00:16:31,250 --> 00:16:37,200 Now, the state spend approximately £8000 per kit on a 431 00:16:37,210 --> 00:16:38,920 school. So you can compare those numbers 432 00:16:39,050 --> 00:16:41,640 because really what a parent is paying is what the school is 433 00:16:41,650 --> 00:16:43,480 spending on the kids. You're literally paying for it. 434 00:16:43,890 --> 00:16:46,100 So it's nearly double. So yeah, private schools 435 00:16:46,110 --> 00:16:48,430 spending nearly double on the on the child because of what? 436 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,400 The parent, yeah. Compared to state schools, yes. 437 00:16:51,410 --> 00:16:52,870 That's important fact. Yeah, yeah. 438 00:16:53,300 --> 00:16:56,270 That's that my my initial instinct there is. 439 00:16:56,660 --> 00:16:59,570 I've never even thought about the fact that we have spending 440 00:16:59,580 --> 00:17:00,890 per kid. I know it sounds crazy. 441 00:17:00,900 --> 00:17:03,390 I've never thought about an amount of money for our child. 442 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,300 That's really weird. Thing about school budget is 443 00:17:05,310 --> 00:17:06,000 based on how many. Kids. 444 00:17:06,010 --> 00:17:07,849 Yeah, of course it is. It makes complete sense, That 445 00:17:07,859 --> 00:17:09,380 very length. Seeing it like written out is 446 00:17:09,390 --> 00:17:10,329 quite interesting. I see. 447 00:17:10,339 --> 00:17:12,230 Yeah. So another fact not really 448 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,930 related to that but still important is that since 2010, in 449 00:17:15,940 --> 00:17:20,130 2010, about 14 years ago, we have 14 years. 450 00:17:21,670 --> 00:17:25,060 So since 2010, the gap between private school spending per 451 00:17:25,069 --> 00:17:26,740 child, which we were just discussing, sure. 452 00:17:26,810 --> 00:17:29,600 And state school spending per child has actually doubled. 453 00:17:29,610 --> 00:17:32,440 So just the gap now. So that's what about an 8K gap 454 00:17:32,450 --> 00:17:34,660 right now? Yeah, So it was, I've got here. 455 00:17:34,670 --> 00:17:39,380 It was 3500. The gap to 8000. 456 00:17:39,450 --> 00:17:41,530 Wow. So that gap between what private 457 00:17:41,540 --> 00:17:43,300 schools have and what state schools have, that gap is? 458 00:17:43,310 --> 00:17:45,960 Massively gap, yeah, exactly. So prices have always spent more 459 00:17:45,970 --> 00:17:49,760 per child and you'd expect that I suppose, when you yeah, you 460 00:17:49,770 --> 00:17:51,870 would realistically. But for it to double in that. 461 00:17:51,970 --> 00:17:53,940 That's right, the gap, the gap has got much bigger. 462 00:17:53,950 --> 00:17:56,520 Well, like what's what's driven out do you think? 463 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,700 Is that down? Do you have any stats on like 464 00:17:58,790 --> 00:18:01,080 the what's private schools? Are charging. 465 00:18:01,090 --> 00:18:03,550 Well, I, yeah, I don't know why I can't tell you like why this 466 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,900 happened, but I can tell you that there's been a 20% 467 00:18:05,910 --> 00:18:07,830 increase, right? Since 2010 again, yeah. 468 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,580 There's been a 20% increase in real terms to the private school 469 00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:13,720 fees, right. So that includes inflation. 470 00:18:13,730 --> 00:18:15,280 So actually it's been more than just 20. 471 00:18:15,290 --> 00:18:18,700 If you look at the 20% figure, 10/20/10 figures is more than 472 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:20,840 20%. We're including inflation. 473 00:18:21,050 --> 00:18:23,000 It's gone up with inflation, lost 20% more. 474 00:18:23,010 --> 00:18:26,580 Wow, private schools cost a lot more now than they do. 475 00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:28,690 Yeah. So when you when they do, yeah. 476 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:30,460 So Eva, there's one of two things happening there. 477 00:18:30,470 --> 00:18:33,090 Private schools right now, right, which is Eva, they're 478 00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:37,220 spending way more on a kid and and that that kid's education is 479 00:18:37,490 --> 00:18:40,580 getting a lot more provision than it than 90 plus percent of 480 00:18:40,590 --> 00:18:43,340 the population or private schools are taking a lot more 481 00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:44,660 profit than they used to. Yeah. 482 00:18:44,670 --> 00:18:47,510 And I don't I don't want to pretend to be probably be 483 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,680 different per school, right. Yeah, Yeah, almost definitely, 484 00:18:49,690 --> 00:18:51,490 Yeah. But that's that's just one more 485 00:18:51,500 --> 00:18:52,580 fact I was going to mention. Data. 486 00:18:52,590 --> 00:18:54,860 But it's so related that I just want it to be in your mind when 487 00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:58,600 you think about stuff, right? So despite this increase, 488 00:18:58,650 --> 00:19:00,880 private school numbers have gone up, right? 489 00:19:00,890 --> 00:19:02,820 So we haven't seen a dip. We, you know, we're not seeing 490 00:19:02,830 --> 00:19:04,120 private schools closed down. Sure. 491 00:19:04,130 --> 00:19:06,240 On the whole, we see the the numbers of children go to 492 00:19:06,250 --> 00:19:08,360 private school now are higher than they were in 20. 10 Is that 493 00:19:08,370 --> 00:19:10,040 due to population rise or is that? 494 00:19:10,050 --> 00:19:12,300 Don't know, I just want. To but it's it's not, it's not 495 00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:14,360 drastically gone down, it's not gone down by 20%. 496 00:19:14,370 --> 00:19:16,160 It's not gone down yet. We've not seen this massive like 497 00:19:16,170 --> 00:19:17,420 ohh no the loads of children. Leaving. 498 00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:22,380 So what you're saying is a 20% increase in in charging won't 499 00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:23,540 affect how many kids go to private? 500 00:19:23,550 --> 00:19:26,040 School, it hasn't over that. Time it probably should have 501 00:19:26,050 --> 00:19:29,260 should put VAT. So I just need to bear that in 502 00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:30,730 mind, that's obviously that's a longer period. 503 00:19:30,740 --> 00:19:32,810 Of time, yeah, OK, that's they're really interesting 504 00:19:32,820 --> 00:19:35,540 facts, everything, yeah. With all of that context and 505 00:19:35,550 --> 00:19:40,990 perspective, right, I, I agree with Labour, I think we should 506 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,510 be adding VAT to private schools tuition fees. 507 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,150 Sure, all right. And I will go into why, but I 508 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,460 kind of want to just get your, I don't want to influence it too 509 00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:52,610 much. I want to get your opinion on on 510 00:19:52,620 --> 00:19:55,020 Labour's plan because obviously a lot of people are not agreeing 511 00:19:55,030 --> 00:19:59,290 with. That right now I would say that 512 00:19:59,470 --> 00:20:03,280 90% of the people I've seen not agree with it are people who 513 00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:05,240 went to or send their kids to private school. 514 00:20:05,410 --> 00:20:06,980 And that makes a lot of. Sense to me. 515 00:20:06,990 --> 00:20:08,030 Yeah, of course it makes. Sense. 516 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,600 So that makes a lot of sense because if a government come in 517 00:20:10,610 --> 00:20:13,680 and literally say that if you want to continue your lifestyle, 518 00:20:13,930 --> 00:20:17,200 it will cost you thousands of pounds extra per year, that's 519 00:20:17,210 --> 00:20:19,380 obviously annoying, right? So I don't. 520 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,680 I'm going to preface this with I I completely understand why you 521 00:20:23,690 --> 00:20:25,960 would be pissed. Off there's like a user bias 522 00:20:25,970 --> 00:20:27,310 almost. Yeah, of course there isn't 523 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,040 everything. In life, if they well in and 524 00:20:29,050 --> 00:20:32,500 said well actually teaches, you get this break, you get this 525 00:20:32,550 --> 00:20:34,680 cool thing that's because you're teachers, but now you don't get 526 00:20:34,690 --> 00:20:36,160 it anymore. We'd be annoyed at that. 527 00:20:36,170 --> 00:20:38,850 Yeah, because we're living. It my, my gut instinct to answer 528 00:20:38,860 --> 00:20:42,820 your question is I absolutely also think that it's well within 529 00:20:42,890 --> 00:20:46,930 the government's right to remove the exemption because I think 530 00:20:46,940 --> 00:20:49,130 what I need, what we need to think about it more is it's it's 531 00:20:49,140 --> 00:20:51,570 an exemption. It's not like they're just 532 00:20:51,580 --> 00:20:53,780 whacking down attacks on someone's, OK. 533 00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:55,890 If you wanted to go and get private healthcare, you'd have 534 00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:59,250 to pay VAT on your stuff. OK, So if you want to go and get 535 00:20:59,260 --> 00:21:02,320 private education, I think it's fair enough to say you need to 536 00:21:02,330 --> 00:21:05,420 pay it on that. It's it's the removal of a perk 537 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:07,170 rather than the whacking of a brand new tax or. 538 00:21:07,180 --> 00:21:09,580 Something, OK, keep that point in mind because the 1st and the 539 00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:11,700 biggest counter argument, which I think you're kind of already 540 00:21:11,710 --> 00:21:14,220 playing against here that I've seen online everywhere, you'll 541 00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:17,180 see this everywhere, right, is we're saving the government 542 00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:22,060 money by not sending our child to a state school, yet still 543 00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:23,800 paying tax that contributes. To it. 544 00:21:24,090 --> 00:21:25,080 That's the biggest one I've seen. 545 00:21:25,090 --> 00:21:28,230 So unpick that. OK my uncle is in his 50s and 546 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,100 he's never had children. He's paid taxes whole life. 547 00:21:31,210 --> 00:21:33,490 Should he go back to the government and say I'm, excuse 548 00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:36,010 me, I haven't taken advantage of the schooling system because I 549 00:21:36,020 --> 00:21:37,810 don't have children? No, because you know how you 550 00:21:37,820 --> 00:21:39,830 should look at it? You went to school. 551 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,710 You're paying back because you went to school. 552 00:21:41,780 --> 00:21:43,170 Yeah. So when you're paying tax for 553 00:21:43,180 --> 00:21:45,650 stuff, that's because you're paying back what you went to 554 00:21:45,660 --> 00:21:46,950 school. For your uncle went to private 555 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,180 school. They went to private school, 556 00:21:48,190 --> 00:21:50,490 then he paid for it, and then he should have paid that on it. 557 00:21:50,860 --> 00:21:52,770 Like my uncles. Also my my uncle. 558 00:21:52,780 --> 00:21:53,730 I don't know if this is true or not. 559 00:21:53,740 --> 00:21:55,110 He might go and buy a brand new car. 560 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:56,030 Yes. Pave out on it. 561 00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:57,130 Hmm. Oh. 562 00:21:57,140 --> 00:22:00,050 Oh, but he's saving the trains from being overcrowded by 563 00:22:00,060 --> 00:22:01,150 getting a car. Yeah. 564 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:04,270 So I was I was speaking to Rob Smith, funny enough about this, 565 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,480 who's been on our podcast before, and he literally said 566 00:22:06,490 --> 00:22:07,730 founder, yeah, literacy shed founder. 567 00:22:07,740 --> 00:22:09,410 And he's really cool. He often shares stuff. 568 00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:11,200 He's very into politics. I think he shares a lot on his 569 00:22:11,210 --> 00:22:14,430 Facebook and we end up having a chat about about that. 570 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,320 And he he made a really good point about the passive benefits 571 00:22:17,330 --> 00:22:19,080 of school as well. He was like, he was like, people 572 00:22:19,090 --> 00:22:22,220 just don't think outside the box in terms of even if you don't 573 00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:24,430 send your specific child there, let's say you can't even 574 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,380 comprehend the idea of not having kids, which already, 575 00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:28,190 which already destroys the argument in my opinion. 576 00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:30,360 But you know, you sent your child to private school. 577 00:22:30,370 --> 00:22:32,250 I'm paying tax for other people's kids. 578 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,250 It's like, yeah. But do you know what you and 579 00:22:34,260 --> 00:22:37,670 your child will benefit from the wider society also going to 580 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,410 school? Yeah. 581 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,710 Not everyone can afford private school. 582 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,170 So even you want 93% of the population to be uneducated. 583 00:22:42,180 --> 00:22:43,340 Yeah. And you think that somehow 584 00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:44,210 that's good. Yeah. 585 00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:45,290 At least I'm not paying for them. 586 00:22:45,340 --> 00:22:46,950 Yeah. And he was like, OK, well, next 587 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,240 time, you know, if you're a business owner. 588 00:22:48,250 --> 00:22:49,320 Yeah. Next time you employ a bunch of 589 00:22:49,330 --> 00:22:50,430 people that go to private school. 590 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,890 Yeah. You can thank the state school 591 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:53,040 system. You contribute to that. 592 00:22:53,050 --> 00:22:54,730 And I really like that wider thing and it. 593 00:22:54,740 --> 00:22:57,290 And I guess it just made me think about the passive benefits 594 00:22:57,300 --> 00:23:00,530 of taxes. We can't start pretending about 595 00:23:00,540 --> 00:23:02,770 that. Tax is like this individualised. 596 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,380 Yeah, we do for the services we use. 597 00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:07,320 It's never been like that. Yeah, my counter argument, the 598 00:23:07,330 --> 00:23:11,360 same sort of thing would be I go to the I use the NHS less than a 599 00:23:11,370 --> 00:23:14,420 lot of people. I'm not gonna start declaring 600 00:23:14,430 --> 00:23:17,840 cash. Back for it Well, yeah, you 601 00:23:17,850 --> 00:23:21,560 know, it's completely true Like I know people who are on 602 00:23:21,630 --> 00:23:25,140 basically lifetime prescription, right, Because they need that to 603 00:23:25,150 --> 00:23:28,620 survive day-to-day. OK do we then put do we whack 604 00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:30,670 attacks on them? Do I turn around to that person 605 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,180 and say, well, I have a daily prescription that I need to stay 606 00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:35,510 alive that cost the taxpayer this amount of money? 607 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,720 That's disgusting. I mean, I'm giving them a tax 608 00:23:37,730 --> 00:23:38,990 break. Why on earth should I pay tax? 609 00:23:39,130 --> 00:23:41,030 Because that's not how society works. 610 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,990 Quite simply. Yeah. 611 00:23:42,030 --> 00:23:44,320 And with education, it's the same thing. 612 00:23:44,330 --> 00:23:47,200 And I don't want to preempt your, your argument, Hayden, but 613 00:23:47,210 --> 00:23:50,560 one of the most annoying things I find, and it really riles me 614 00:23:50,570 --> 00:23:56,480 up when someone says this is, well, it's a tax on aspiration. 615 00:23:56,570 --> 00:23:59,100 I'm, I'm my I'm. I've got some aspirations. 616 00:23:59,110 --> 00:24:01,160 I work hard for my kids. Right. 617 00:24:01,170 --> 00:24:04,250 Listen, listen, everyone works odd, OK? 618 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:05,860 Every assume everyone works hard. 619 00:24:05,870 --> 00:24:08,670 Obviously some people don't obviously assume everyone works 620 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,760 hard because damn, a lot of the kids parents in my school work 621 00:24:11,770 --> 00:24:13,960 bloody hard. So it's very condescending to 622 00:24:13,970 --> 00:24:16,240 say, well, I work hard because let's look at this. 623 00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:20,260 At the end of the day, whether you like it or not, if you can 624 00:24:20,270 --> 00:24:22,560 afford to, whether you're scrimping and saving as much as 625 00:24:22,570 --> 00:24:24,760 you want, you could scrimp and save massively to send your kids 626 00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:26,220 to school. I agree with I, I, I'm not 627 00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:27,040 saying you don't. Right. 628 00:24:27,050 --> 00:24:28,480 Yeah. But what I'm saying is that if 629 00:24:28,490 --> 00:24:31,510 you can find 15 grand a year to send your kid to school, you are 630 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,760 not poor. There is no amount of scrimping 631 00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:37,430 and saving that 80% of the population could do to find 15 632 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,180 grand a year for their kid to go to school. 633 00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:40,980 Yeah. So when you're saying my kid 634 00:24:40,990 --> 00:24:43,240 goes to private school, it's because we, we give up other 635 00:24:43,250 --> 00:24:46,860 stuff like Rishi gives up his Sky television, which is £40 a 636 00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:48,960 month because. Because that's how we find our. 637 00:24:49,030 --> 00:24:51,960 Massive score piece of £15,000. People are making big 638 00:24:51,970 --> 00:24:53,200 sacrifices. They are. 639 00:24:53,210 --> 00:24:53,950 That's a fact. Like. 640 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,630 That's I don't wanna ditch me now because it's. 641 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,930 True, I speaking so I when I put this Instagram thing out, 642 00:24:57,940 --> 00:25:00,090 obviously quite a lot of people messaged back and it was really 643 00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:01,500 useful. Thank you by the way. 644 00:25:01,510 --> 00:25:03,780 So for messaging back, some people agree with me, some 645 00:25:03,790 --> 00:25:05,940 people disagreed. So there's no way I can win in 646 00:25:05,950 --> 00:25:07,040 this conversation. I'm going to. 647 00:25:07,050 --> 00:25:10,050 I'm going to disagree with. You so sorry but we live in a 648 00:25:10,060 --> 00:25:11,510 society and you have your own opinion. 649 00:25:12,990 --> 00:25:17,360 Yeah, but I was saying but what was your point my? 650 00:25:17,370 --> 00:25:19,710 Whole point was that people do make sacrifices to go to school. 651 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,100 I'm not gonna say you don't, but my point is if you have found 15 652 00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:25,790 grand a year to send your child to school, yeah, you are not 653 00:25:25,860 --> 00:25:27,910 actually in a position where your life is. 654 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:28,450 Really. Awful. 655 00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:30,790 Not it's, it's not. I also find it really, really, 656 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,690 really, really condescending for those people when people use 657 00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:34,430 that argument. Yeah, we work really hard and 658 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,810 we're making big sacrifices and there's sacrifices might be 659 00:25:36,820 --> 00:25:39,690 legitimate, it might not. It might not be just Sky TV or 660 00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:41,290 whatever. It could be because any 661 00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:43,800 holidays, you know, we, we, we don't go out for meals at 662 00:25:43,810 --> 00:25:45,640 restaurants. We we get lose a lot of other 663 00:25:45,650 --> 00:25:47,660 luxuries. Even and if you're comparing to 664 00:25:47,670 --> 00:25:50,280 someone who has the same household income right and like 665 00:25:50,290 --> 00:25:52,460 let's say you have the same household income you spent 15 666 00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:54,350 grand and send your child to school and you've made 667 00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:57,700 sacrifices in that someone else with the same income is going on 668 00:25:57,710 --> 00:25:59,930 6 holidays a year yeah you know or or it's got a. 669 00:25:59,940 --> 00:26:03,160 Brand new card, Yeah or. You know, whatever it is that's 670 00:26:03,170 --> 00:26:06,420 more fair, I think to be like, well, OK, fine, but. 671 00:26:06,660 --> 00:26:08,390 That, but it's still not horrible. 672 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,600 Yeah, exactly. With people who are actually 673 00:26:11,610 --> 00:26:15,320 living paycheck to paycheck, who don't have any luxuries anyway. 674 00:26:15,330 --> 00:26:17,750 Which is less than that. Yeah, on its own, because we've 675 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,370 got to remember there's a huge, huge population of people in 676 00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:23,100 this country who already don't have any luxuries. 677 00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:24,900 Yeah. And they just about survive on 678 00:26:24,910 --> 00:26:27,160 the money they earn, right. And to them, it's like if 679 00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:31,570 someone said to them, sacrifice everything possible that you can 680 00:26:31,580 --> 00:26:33,890 so that you're like, you're on the minimum amount to survive, 681 00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:35,590 right? They still wouldn't be able to 682 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,680 save up enough money for tuition fees. 683 00:26:37,690 --> 00:26:39,170 And that's the point. That's the comparison. 684 00:26:39,180 --> 00:26:41,610 So it's like you're not in the same boat, and people need to 685 00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:43,380 get that. I'm quite passionate about that, 686 00:26:43,390 --> 00:26:44,850 you know, You're saying I'm in the same boat. 687 00:26:44,860 --> 00:26:49,670 No, you're not. If you can mind 8K15K10K 688 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,460 whatever to send your kids to private school, you're just not 689 00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:54,250 in the same boat as people below so just stop. 690 00:26:54,260 --> 00:26:57,370 Saying it, yeah, just find it and, and, and to to me, one of 691 00:26:57,380 --> 00:26:59,690 the biggest things again, I say to people and I'm I'm more than 692 00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:00,850 willing. I've not had the conversations 693 00:27:00,860 --> 00:27:02,850 you've had. So my my opinions are probably 694 00:27:02,860 --> 00:27:06,590 much less been much less bashed up and formed. 695 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,570 So be interesting for you to say another big thing for me is OK, 696 00:27:09,580 --> 00:27:11,300 let's say the average IS15K, right? 697 00:27:11,310 --> 00:27:14,150 Let's even look, let's just look at 10K, right? 698 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,960 Let's just say it's 10K. You're finding 10K year and a 699 00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:20,800 20% increase is going to back whack it up to 12 K. 700 00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:22,880 Never mind the fact I think private schools should be 701 00:27:22,890 --> 00:27:25,370 absorbing a bunch of this cost like most businesses do when it 702 00:27:25,380 --> 00:27:27,790 comes to that and they think about that especially if it's 703 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,760 been raised by 20% over the last 15 years. 704 00:27:29,850 --> 00:27:31,800 Ignore all of that. Let's say it goes from 10K to 705 00:27:31,810 --> 00:27:33,660 12K. OK, two options. 706 00:27:33,670 --> 00:27:37,060 Option one, you can't afford the extra 2K OK cool. 707 00:27:37,070 --> 00:27:39,840 You just say 10K because it's a free school place for you to go 708 00:27:39,850 --> 00:27:42,400 to that will cost you nothing and you can get your kid into 709 00:27:42,410 --> 00:27:45,340 that school. So let's not pretend this is the 710 00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:47,460 end of the world for these people, OK? 711 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,760 Yeah, No. But we can talk about, I can 712 00:27:49,770 --> 00:27:50,710 give you some. Yeah, Come. 713 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,240 Back to you in a minute. Scholarships and things like 714 00:27:52,250 --> 00:27:54,710 that, I understand. But someone spending 10K a year 715 00:27:54,780 --> 00:27:57,150 and they've got to make that tough decision, which of course 716 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,030 is not great for their child's gotta move schools. 717 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,620 Ohh. I'm gonna, I'm gonna wipe my 718 00:28:00,630 --> 00:28:03,280 tears away with my £10,000 a year that I've saved because 719 00:28:03,290 --> 00:28:05,050 you've got a free school space now. 720 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,800 OK, who's provocative now? No, but it's, but what I'm 721 00:28:07,810 --> 00:28:09,190 saying is that doesn't wash with me. 722 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,530 You can come up to me and say that's annoying. 723 00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:14,050 I don't wanna spend an extra 2K in tax a year and I'd be like, I 724 00:28:14,060 --> 00:28:15,330 understand that. Yeah, completely. 725 00:28:15,380 --> 00:28:17,410 Off you go. If if you, if you put, if you 726 00:28:17,420 --> 00:28:20,260 pretend that you're, you know your life's over because your 727 00:28:20,270 --> 00:28:22,310 kid can't go to state school. Are you saying life's over for 728 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,550 90% of population? Already I know that's the thing. 729 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,940 It's another stat we've not really mentioned. 730 00:28:25,950 --> 00:28:30,000 I guess it probably have to start is that just over 93% of 731 00:28:30,010 --> 00:28:32,430 children in the UK go to state. School, like when I have the 732 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,300 conversation, honestly, I'm like, you do know I went to 733 00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:36,240 state school, I had free school meals at school. 734 00:28:36,250 --> 00:28:39,220 I went to state school. You're essentially saying that 735 00:28:39,230 --> 00:28:43,500 my my life is so abominably awful, like I can't comprehend 736 00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:45,740 my kid possibly having the same experiences you had. 737 00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:49,820 Like Boris put out a TikTok or something and you saw it about 738 00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:52,020 and he was like, it's, it's not fair to take it away. 739 00:28:52,030 --> 00:28:53,670 You know, We try. People want to give their 740 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,380 children that leg up in society. Yeah. 741 00:28:55,390 --> 00:28:57,150 And I really just even hate. All that raises. 742 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,210 What do you mean a leg up as we're saying we I want my child 743 00:29:00,220 --> 00:29:02,400 to trample on other people. Why don't I get what you're 744 00:29:02,410 --> 00:29:05,450 saying it it doesn't sound good in nature when you're saying a 745 00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:07,710 leg up is like, so you're saying the schools aren't good enough 746 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,600 in that statement and that the only way to do well is you 747 00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:11,830 should you should go about other people. 748 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,190 You should step on other people and you can do that by paying. 749 00:29:14,620 --> 00:29:16,230 I just don't. Like it and I shouldn't have to 750 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,730 pay more for that privilege. Yeah, I shouldn't have to have 751 00:29:19,740 --> 00:29:20,620 actually. Yeah. 752 00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:22,880 What what are you on about? Honestly, I shouldn't have to 753 00:29:22,890 --> 00:29:25,140 pay the fair. Yeah, the literal law, like the 754 00:29:25,150 --> 00:29:27,100 going rate for everything that we do in this country. 755 00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:28,900 And I wanna come back to that point really quick because you, 756 00:29:28,910 --> 00:29:30,300 you said it and you kind of glossed over it. 757 00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:33,200 And I think it's so important, which is that the whole 758 00:29:33,210 --> 00:29:35,080 argument, We save the government money. 759 00:29:35,170 --> 00:29:37,120 I flip it around, anyone says no, you don't. 760 00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:40,340 We save you money. The taxpayer saves you money by 761 00:29:40,350 --> 00:29:43,200 subsidising 20% of the cost. That's what's actually. 762 00:29:43,210 --> 00:29:46,040 Happening, yeah, the cost isn't. Here and at some point in the, 763 00:29:46,050 --> 00:29:49,280 in the past, we decided to, to say Nah, don't worry, the 764 00:29:49,290 --> 00:29:51,900 taxpayer will take pay 20% of that for you. 765 00:29:51,970 --> 00:29:54,100 There you go. So no, OK, we're getting rid of 766 00:29:54,110 --> 00:29:57,140 that now because you know what, I get it, some families, there 767 00:29:57,150 --> 00:30:01,200 will be some families that are pushed out of that bracket where 768 00:30:01,210 --> 00:30:03,500 they're already, you know, they are scrimping and saving and I 769 00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:05,240 get it. And they're making sacrifices to 770 00:30:05,250 --> 00:30:09,070 such a degree where finding that extra 20% might actually be 771 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,220 impossible for them. I don't think it's many by the 772 00:30:11,230 --> 00:30:13,620 way, I don't think many people have managed to budget 10,000 773 00:30:13,630 --> 00:30:16,360 lbs so perfectly, but they're buying the cheapest food, never 774 00:30:16,370 --> 00:30:19,350 going out, never doing this. They they've moved into the the 775 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,980 cheapest rented accommodation they can find. 776 00:30:20,990 --> 00:30:22,980 Yeah, people, I don't think people are doing that. 777 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,930 If it's that important to them, then they'll make it work. 778 00:30:24,940 --> 00:30:27,220 Yeah, they'll find the other two grand in, in my opinion, I think 779 00:30:27,230 --> 00:30:28,970 we're gonna see this big influx of people leaving I. 780 00:30:28,980 --> 00:30:31,490 Think because I want to come on to that point really quickly 781 00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:33,710 because if you're already on the higher end by Eaton, yeah, 782 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,970 you're spending 50 grand a year. So so that that is a completely 783 00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:38,850 different lifestyle and no one's thinking of those people. 784 00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:41,290 But lots of people are saying what about the people of less 785 00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:43,390 money who are at the private schools where it's like 3 grand 786 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,810 a year? Yeah, because if 15 grand an 787 00:30:44,820 --> 00:30:47,130 average, I'm not saying 3 grand a year exists, but you know, 788 00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:49,790 it's much less. Well, that's also 20% of a much 789 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,430 lower. Number. 790 00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:53,770 It's it's, it's, it's relative. So like, you know, 20% of 5 791 00:30:53,780 --> 00:30:57,030 grand, Well, that that's a grand a year, you know, that's £100 a 792 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,390 month. You're already spending £500 a 793 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,410 month on school. Yeah. 794 00:31:01,420 --> 00:31:04,310 And if you can't afford that £100 jump, then then, OK, 795 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,200 Honestly, join the rest of the then don't. 796 00:31:06,210 --> 00:31:08,140 Yeah. Because like, yeah, exactly. 797 00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:10,410 It's just condescending to be like, oh, it's so bad for me. 798 00:31:10,420 --> 00:31:12,710 It's is it is it bad because 93% of us are doing that. 799 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,850 So what you trying to say about literally everyone else? 800 00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:19,150 I don't like that opinion. But my overall point here, I 801 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,040 guess is, is people, people are going to be knocked out. 802 00:31:23,090 --> 00:31:26,230 And I get it, it's not going to be many, but I hate the idea 803 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,810 that it's to save those few people. 804 00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:31,110 Yeah. From losing their luxury. 805 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,620 Yeah, right. And it is a luxury, Yeah. 806 00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:33,940 And they have to go to state school. 807 00:31:34,010 --> 00:31:35,580 Yeah. To save those few people That 808 00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:37,930 that that pain of doing that being like the rest of us 809 00:31:37,940 --> 00:31:40,720 peasants. I hate the idea that every child 810 00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:43,200 at Eaton gets gets subsidised 20% by by. 811 00:31:43,210 --> 00:31:46,440 Me and you. We're like really actual rich, 812 00:31:46,450 --> 00:31:48,680 actual rich people. Reaching 20. 813 00:31:48,690 --> 00:31:52,390 Percent off of their fees at the cost of us, the taxpayer. 814 00:31:52,610 --> 00:31:55,200 No, thank you. Let's let's, I'm sorry, I'm 815 00:31:55,210 --> 00:32:00,320 sorry to the, the bottom, like 2% of the 7% of people that go 816 00:32:00,330 --> 00:32:02,380 to private school that you might have to go to state school. 817 00:32:02,390 --> 00:32:06,070 I'm sorry, but I can't be, we can't be subsidising those, 818 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,880 those people for $0.20. It's not you getting added 819 00:32:08,890 --> 00:32:10,690 attacks. It's, it's just you being 820 00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:12,170 restored to what it always should have been. 821 00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:13,400 And we're not subsidising anymore. 822 00:32:13,410 --> 00:32:16,670 That's the way I see it Soz. I think you, I think you're 823 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,220 completely right. I think that I, I can't get over 824 00:32:19,230 --> 00:32:20,880 that. I, I can't get over that jump. 825 00:32:20,890 --> 00:32:23,090 And one of the biggest things again, I've seen in multiple 826 00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:24,820 times, it's not big. I suppose it's just a legitimate 827 00:32:24,830 --> 00:32:28,080 worry because I think on the macro level of this discussion, 828 00:32:28,090 --> 00:32:30,770 right? I I, I don't think I can be 829 00:32:30,780 --> 00:32:33,530 convinced by someone to go against what I think right now 830 00:32:33,610 --> 00:32:35,720 that that sometimes I have an opinion and I'm like, well, I 831 00:32:35,730 --> 00:32:37,670 think that, but yeah, OK with this one. 832 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,770 I'm, I'm, I do think the facts back up the ideology as well. 833 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,970 Yeah. I don't just think it's an 834 00:32:41,980 --> 00:32:43,630 ideological battle that's been held here. 835 00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:47,330 Government's job, right? If you're looking at a state 836 00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:50,640 school, it has to be to fix state education and and also, 837 00:32:50,650 --> 00:32:52,270 you know, they have to raise money to do that. 838 00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:53,830 For the many, not the few. Exactly. 839 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,750 So 3% there go there. I just don't think we can say to 840 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,650 the government that that's an or you can disagree with it. 841 00:33:01,660 --> 00:33:03,020 This is what I wanna say. You can disagree with it. 842 00:33:03,030 --> 00:33:06,500 And what I will do now is maybe just make the separation here of 843 00:33:07,290 --> 00:33:11,320 the top level and the individual because I absolutely would 844 00:33:11,330 --> 00:33:13,760 understand and sympathise genuinely with anyone. 845 00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:17,230 Yeah, who is in this situation where they they they don't see 846 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,860 themselves as well off. They might be because because 847 00:33:19,870 --> 00:33:21,340 it's hard to we've invested in that bubble. 848 00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:23,880 And as you've seen, poverty, which exists for millions of 849 00:33:23,890 --> 00:33:27,000 kids in this country, unless you've actually seen that, it's 850 00:33:27,010 --> 00:33:28,920 hard to grasp what that actually looks like. 851 00:33:28,990 --> 00:33:32,380 Like struggling to put food on the plate and parents not like 852 00:33:32,450 --> 00:33:34,740 OK, fine. Get away from all Dylans. 853 00:33:34,830 --> 00:33:37,100 He's, he's pandering to the OK, you're all that Then for a 854 00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:40,150 minute. OK, I I just think for the 855 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,650 individual you're allowed to be annoyed. 856 00:33:41,660 --> 00:33:43,820 At this yeah, yeah, so can I can I just shit because I know 857 00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:44,830 you're gonna think of an example. 858 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,890 I've got one yeah, go on. So this is the the I'll speak to 859 00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:49,540 someone Instagram. They know who they are listening 860 00:33:49,550 --> 00:33:50,550 to this because I know it's an argument. 861 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,410 I don't want to name you just in case you didn't want to be named 862 00:33:52,420 --> 00:33:55,010 so I'm not going to do it. But the the best counter 863 00:33:55,090 --> 00:33:57,450 argument I heard on a personal level, all the macro stuff I 864 00:33:57,460 --> 00:33:59,950 could not be convinced away from I'm like no, nothing convinced 865 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:01,180 me. But on a personal level I'm 866 00:34:01,190 --> 00:34:02,950 like, OK, I get it. This is bad for you and I have 867 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,700 no counter argument which is this person was saying my child 868 00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:09,100 has SN that wasn't being met at my state school. 869 00:34:09,110 --> 00:34:11,159 I live in a small village. There weren't other options. 870 00:34:11,170 --> 00:34:13,380 It was either this school or it's this private school, the 871 00:34:13,389 --> 00:34:15,080 private schools meeting my child's CN needs. 872 00:34:15,090 --> 00:34:17,969 Therefore I'm not I'm not claiming an EHCP through the 873 00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:19,130 government. I'm not going to state school. 874 00:34:19,139 --> 00:34:21,500 I'm paying for it all privately. But that needs are being met. 875 00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:23,570 And if I had to go back to state school, which I will do because 876 00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:25,960 I can't afford anymore that those those needs are not going 877 00:34:25,969 --> 00:34:27,690 to be anymore. And that's a real argument. 878 00:34:27,870 --> 00:34:29,840 And I and I was and. That's convincing. 879 00:34:30,030 --> 00:34:33,760 That's convincing because essentially that is the 880 00:34:33,770 --> 00:34:36,780 government's right. The government have failed your 881 00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:39,770 child in this situation, don't you have failed your child 882 00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:41,110 completely and is not meeting their? 883 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,760 Needs the state school. System so you've taken them out 884 00:34:44,070 --> 00:34:46,360 and technically the government no longer have to accommodate 885 00:34:46,370 --> 00:34:48,679 them even though they weren't anyway they weren't giving them 886 00:34:48,690 --> 00:34:51,480 enough but they don't know anything now states you finally 887 00:34:51,489 --> 00:34:53,770 as a parent you think my child's got he's finally get what they 888 00:34:53,780 --> 00:34:55,639 need. It's a sacrifice for me because 889 00:34:55,650 --> 00:34:57,070 I could be spending this money on other stuff. 890 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,330 My child gets what they want and then the government come along 891 00:34:59,340 --> 00:35:01,860 again and say ohh no more money please. 892 00:35:02,150 --> 00:35:06,140 Like I I I I get that I get that and when you compare that to 893 00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:10,200 genuinely Rishi Sunak's family Inger 10K tax break every year 894 00:35:10,350 --> 00:35:13,640 just because it's 20% off and it's a high high fee. 895 00:35:13,730 --> 00:35:18,900 Yeah that you know they are not the same boat and and this is a 896 00:35:18,910 --> 00:35:22,420 sweeping generalisation of a policy which it has to be. 897 00:35:22,430 --> 00:35:25,790 I think we can't I don't think we can get into some schools 898 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,920 have that some schools don't It's it's a weird one. 899 00:35:27,930 --> 00:35:30,300 You're basically judging what school this class has too much 900 00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:34,260 or too little or good or bad. But the answer to that and it 901 00:35:34,270 --> 00:35:35,920 doesn't answer this person's problem. 902 00:35:35,970 --> 00:35:38,410 It doesn't but the answer to that is we need to fix our state 903 00:35:38,420 --> 00:35:40,030 schools. Yeah, I agree that that is what 904 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,540 the answer to it's not ohh OK let's carry on with the 905 00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:44,380 sticking. Plaster approach of yeah if if 906 00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:46,400 it's failing why don't you just go on afford private school? 907 00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:49,910 And the whole point of the ACT is to spend on state schools and 908 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:50,820 what? It has to be. 909 00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:54,440 To be, it has to be. I've seen a lot of people say, 910 00:35:54,450 --> 00:35:56,020 yeah, it's like it's 1.6 billion. 911 00:35:56,030 --> 00:35:56,650 I hope. Yeah. 912 00:35:56,660 --> 00:35:59,060 And like, yeah, it sounds like a big number, but like, it's 913 00:35:59,070 --> 00:36:01,000 really not that much money. It's do you know what percentage 914 00:36:01,010 --> 00:36:02,650 increase of the education budget that would? 915 00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:03,840 Be Ohh no I've no idea, do you know? 916 00:36:03,850 --> 00:36:05,480 Yeah, go on. You know it would be it, would 917 00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:07,060 you think? About God, I actually have no 918 00:36:07,070 --> 00:36:09,010 idea. Like, honestly, like less than 919 00:36:09,020 --> 00:36:12,160 1%, two percent, 2%. OK, so a little bit of money. 920 00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:13,130 Yeah, it's a little bit of money. 921 00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:13,950 It's not much. I get that. 922 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,600 That's a good counter argument. Isn't that much money. 923 00:36:15,610 --> 00:36:17,440 It isn't going to fix stuff. No, absolutely not. 924 00:36:17,450 --> 00:36:19,190 It will need to be other things. As well, but they're basically 925 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,880 saying they're going to hire 6500 teachers as a result. 926 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,330 I think it's a fascinating debate. 927 00:36:24,340 --> 00:36:27,290 I, I, I feel very strongly about it. 928 00:36:27,820 --> 00:36:31,980 I think as I've got older, I've got a lot better at just trying 929 00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:33,840 to be a bit more understanding of individuals. 930 00:36:33,850 --> 00:36:36,080 Yeah, definitely. But you know, when, like 1010 931 00:36:36,090 --> 00:36:37,950 years ago you said this to me, I've been like, let's burn 932 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,050 private schools. Let's knock them to the ground. 933 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,730 Do you know what argument no one ever makes, which I find mental 934 00:36:42,740 --> 00:36:44,540 really to think about it. It's a business, right? 935 00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:46,850 It's a business in the day. Isn't no one, no, this the 936 00:36:46,860 --> 00:36:48,470 extremities only. No one's thinking. 937 00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:51,100 Could the private school absorb the cost actually, And actually 938 00:36:51,110 --> 00:36:52,830 the parents don't have to do it because you know what they're 939 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,530 spending 90, they're spending almost double on the chip, like 940 00:36:55,540 --> 00:36:57,520 children getting more double the provision in terms of money than 941 00:36:57,530 --> 00:36:59,310 the state school kid, which means there's definitely wiggle. 942 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,310 Room you could still get a lot more than a state. 943 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,700 Considering it wasn't that big in 2010, the gap we've. 944 00:37:03,710 --> 00:37:06,730 Already established 20% real terms, which is the 20% that 945 00:37:06,740 --> 00:37:08,120 we're looking. At so it's like, you know what 946 00:37:08,170 --> 00:37:09,880 schools could, there's a lot of things schools could do. 947 00:37:09,890 --> 00:37:12,240 I reckon private schools, if they really sat down and thought 948 00:37:12,250 --> 00:37:14,560 about it and stop moaning and actually just thought. 949 00:37:14,830 --> 00:37:16,950 Oh, everything else in this country has to have on it. 950 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,150 Yeah, like, have you seen how square the state schools are? 951 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,390 We still, they still exist. They still exist and they're 952 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,570 still providing care to children. 953 00:37:22,580 --> 00:37:25,460 And I get that they've been screwed so far that yeah, again, 954 00:37:25,470 --> 00:37:27,350 these things aren't being met anymore. 955 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,830 But private schools have got a way, way bigger like surplus on 956 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,930 that where I'm like, you know what, they probably could say 957 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,430 we'll absorb half that. Your fees are going up a bit and 958 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,450 and we're not going to, we're going to increase the fees. 959 00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:40,650 Anywhere whether profit up this. Time we won't back up our profit 960 00:37:40,660 --> 00:37:41,930 a little bit for like the next three years. 961 00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:44,400 There's things that I think private schools could do. 962 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,350 And and if a business was going bust on the High Street right 963 00:37:47,660 --> 00:37:52,390 and and and scrapping that would help them, but they don't know 964 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,100 today. Yeah, the government does go 965 00:37:54,110 --> 00:37:54,410 ohh. What? 966 00:37:54,420 --> 00:37:57,520 You'll you'll you'll be all we didn't know about you would No, 967 00:37:57,530 --> 00:37:59,450 your business isn't viable. It closes. 968 00:37:59,460 --> 00:38:01,820 Down, yeah, you adapt or or it dies and then someone else. 969 00:38:01,830 --> 00:38:04,630 We have, we run an education business that charges that me 970 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,010 and you, right. We went through the threshold of 971 00:38:08,020 --> 00:38:10,460 tax, which is a certain amount. You gotta have a revenue every 972 00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:11,580 year. Yeah, if you go past that 973 00:38:11,590 --> 00:38:13,290 threshold, you've got to introduce that you have to 974 00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:15,170 charge. It's really annoying because 975 00:38:15,180 --> 00:38:17,570 what happens is you have a whole thing set up and you charge your 976 00:38:17,580 --> 00:38:19,510 customers a certain amount of money. 977 00:38:19,580 --> 00:38:22,170 You go through the threshold for that and you've got two options. 978 00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:26,210 Either you basically take the hit yourself or you add 20% to 979 00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:27,460 your. Cost, which is what it's 980 00:38:27,470 --> 00:38:29,110 supposed to be, but a lot of businesses don't. 981 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,370 Do that as a business, we've been, we've been functioning for 982 00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:34,710 two years and suddenly there's a 20% increase in our in our from, 983 00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:36,550 from a customer inflation. And we were like. 984 00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:39,130 Yeah, from from a customer's point of view, it's not like 985 00:38:39,140 --> 00:38:42,630 America where there's an amount and then and taxes on at the end 986 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,750 when you get to the till. And you think that's very much 987 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,670 like, cool, well, I'm paying this for this and then bloody 988 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,860 government putting tax on. Yeah, it's not like that in this 989 00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:50,130 country. In this country, it's just 990 00:38:50,140 --> 00:38:52,250 that's how much this costs and that's embedded in there. 991 00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:55,170 So the government kind of get away with that idea of it. 992 00:38:55,180 --> 00:38:56,330 No, no, no. This is what the cost is. 993 00:38:56,340 --> 00:38:58,250 So as a business, I get it. It's really annoying. 994 00:38:58,260 --> 00:39:01,140 And me and Hayden had to sit down and have a discussion about 995 00:39:01,150 --> 00:39:03,550 what's gonna have the minimal impact on our business. 996 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,430 Even we absorb the cost and it's no different for our customers 997 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,280 and we absorb it. There are profits and we try and 998 00:39:08,290 --> 00:39:12,160 save money elsewhere or we put our money up by as much as that 999 00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:14,140 is. And then we we're absolutely 1000 00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:15,520 fine, but we risk losing customers. 1001 00:39:15,530 --> 00:39:17,710 Yeah. And we had to weigh up where on 1002 00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:20,250 that scale do we land to try and minimise the impact on our 1003 00:39:20,260 --> 00:39:22,120 business. But you know, we didn't do, we 1004 00:39:22,130 --> 00:39:24,300 didn't sit there and go we shouldn't bloody pay that. 1005 00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:26,230 We shouldn't do it. We're like, no, of course we. 1006 00:39:26,670 --> 00:39:29,530 Do we sat down and we made our business much, much, much better 1007 00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:32,750 and more desirable to attract more people again and and and 1008 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,220 then we put the put the price up over. 1009 00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:34,820 Time. And you know what? 1010 00:39:34,830 --> 00:39:36,780 If someone didn't want to come, they don't have to. 1011 00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:38,040 They got school education. Right. 1012 00:39:38,050 --> 00:39:39,300 Yeah, exactly. We're a luxury. 1013 00:39:39,310 --> 00:39:41,500 So we we offer a luxury and private schools are luxury as 1014 00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:41,820 well. Yeah. 1015 00:39:41,830 --> 00:39:43,960 So there you go. Interesting one. 1016 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,380 Yeah, as I take that, I would be annoyed if I didn't mention 1017 00:39:47,390 --> 00:39:47,690 this. Right. 1018 00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:49,630 There's one last counter argument that you might have 1019 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,630 already answered. Whatever the last counter I've 1020 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,120 seen, the big one is that there's going to be a massive 1021 00:39:54,190 --> 00:39:57,600 influx of children who can no longer meet the threshold of 1022 00:39:57,610 --> 00:40:00,020 private school fees that will have to suddenly join state 1023 00:40:00,030 --> 00:40:01,150 school. This is going to happen at the 1024 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,550 same time. What do you think about that 1025 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,750 argument? That there was someone from 1026 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,100 Labour I think. I can't remember her name. 1027 00:40:06,110 --> 00:40:09,650 Someone from Labour, like a long experienced member of the party 1028 00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:12,650 was on television and this got put to her and you could just 1029 00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:14,810 tell that she wasn't part of the education ministry was just 1030 00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:17,180 basically it was put to her and she brushed it off. 1031 00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:18,970 And she was based like, yeah, well, whatever. 1032 00:40:19,060 --> 00:40:20,480 And that was picked up on by everyone. 1033 00:40:20,490 --> 00:40:24,460 That was like, ohh, already know how how stress schools are. 1034 00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:27,310 What was really funny to me was when the Tory MP's, the Tory 1035 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,810 people were jumping on their ohh, who's gonna join? 1036 00:40:29,820 --> 00:40:32,430 Are they in a broken system? Yeah, yeah. 1037 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,610 Actually, this isn't. That's interesting because I 1038 00:40:35,620 --> 00:40:39,340 think you're in charge of this whole country, but, and that 1039 00:40:39,350 --> 00:40:41,800 rightly agitated some people and even a few teachers will talk to 1040 00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:43,380 me about it. And they were like that bloody 1041 00:40:43,390 --> 00:40:46,540 Labour person just was just just didn't care that I'd have maybe 1042 00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:49,180 two extra kids in my class. And I had to say to them, you 1043 00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:51,940 won't, Yeah, you won't. Cause it's, it's 7%, right? 1044 00:40:52,010 --> 00:40:54,900 Yeah, 7% if we're looking at the, that, that's like two kids 1045 00:40:54,910 --> 00:40:57,020 per class, right. Let's save all of them came 1046 00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:58,200 back. Yeah. 1047 00:40:58,210 --> 00:41:00,080 No private schools. I mean, you're gonna get two 1048 00:41:00,090 --> 00:41:02,280 kids per class if all of them come back, right. 1049 00:41:02,290 --> 00:41:04,980 If 50% of them come back, you get one kid extra in your class. 1050 00:41:04,990 --> 00:41:07,120 Not gonna, it's not gonna be anywhere near 50%. 1051 00:41:07,130 --> 00:41:09,490 It's gonna be more like one or two Pascal. 1052 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,120 Yeah, I saw some conservative numbers that were like, let's 1053 00:41:12,130 --> 00:41:14,700 imagine 10% of children no longer go to private school 1054 00:41:14,740 --> 00:41:16,770 more. So I've got two retorts to that. 1055 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,410 OK. Yeah, Number one is it's a 1056 00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:21,350 separate point that we've got a fixed scores. 1057 00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:23,020 I can't keep saying it. We've got a fixed scores. 1058 00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:25,210 We know that that's how we gonna raise money to do it, OK. 1059 00:41:25,290 --> 00:41:29,530 So yeah, I know it's broken, but part of that point is every year 1060 00:41:29,540 --> 00:41:31,690 this year, right, I had four people starting my class. 1061 00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:35,050 This year, I had four extra people come in and some left, 1062 00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:37,390 sure. But I'm net two up on when I 1063 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,880 started this year. OK, I crack on. 1064 00:41:39,970 --> 00:41:41,080 Yeah, I'm a teacher. What? 1065 00:41:41,090 --> 00:41:44,000 It's gone from 29 to 31. OK. 1066 00:41:44,010 --> 00:41:45,320 I mean, I've got a mark connection. 1067 00:41:45,330 --> 00:41:47,270 You know it, that these people come with needs. 1068 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,060 I've gotta be met and stuff. But it's, you know, as a 1069 00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:52,800 teacher, we have been drilled enough to to understand that we 1070 00:41:52,810 --> 00:41:54,920 can cope with a class of 31 or a class of 28. 1071 00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:56,280 Like we know how to do that. Yeah. 1072 00:41:56,290 --> 00:41:57,660 You just get on with it. OK. 1073 00:41:57,730 --> 00:42:00,780 The second thing that I would say to that is, yeah, OK, people 1074 00:42:00,790 --> 00:42:03,740 can join, but they're they're not going to right. 1075 00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:06,570 And when they do, people are like, oh, but they've got to 1076 00:42:06,580 --> 00:42:08,420 join in the school. Isn't that so detrimental to 1077 00:42:08,430 --> 00:42:11,260 them because they're they're really settled in their school. 1078 00:42:11,550 --> 00:42:14,040 Absolutely. Is is true that for some 1079 00:42:14,050 --> 00:42:15,900 children they'll be really upsetting to move school. 1080 00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:16,690 Yeah right. Yeah. 1081 00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:20,220 Every single kid who's joined my class ever within three days 1082 00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:21,660 it's like I've been in the class for 10 years. 1083 00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:22,720 Yeah. Completely fine they are 1084 00:42:22,730 --> 00:42:24,580 absolutely because they are children are incredibly 1085 00:42:24,590 --> 00:42:26,300 resilient. They make new friends and guess 1086 00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:29,400 what we're not rabid animals in state school yeah. 1087 00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:31,700 My kids really care for kids when they start and they. 1088 00:42:31,710 --> 00:42:34,540 Leave school and go to another one anyway, so they used to it. 1089 00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:36,390 And if you're in a primary, Junior School as well, like 1090 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,720 schools, Junior School kids also join us in year three. 1091 00:42:38,730 --> 00:42:40,340 It's like, yeah, it's not that bad. 1092 00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:43,170 I also think it's just a load of baloney scaremongering in my 1093 00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:43,770 opinion. Scare. 1094 00:42:44,050 --> 00:42:45,900 Ohh. It's like, no, do you know what? 1095 00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:48,680 I think a very very, very very few amount of people who are 1096 00:42:48,690 --> 00:42:52,000 paying 10K a year are are going to say I physically cannot 1097 00:42:52,010 --> 00:42:55,670 sacrifice anything else in my life to find this extra 2 grand. 1098 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:56,810 So I'm gonna have to go to school. 1099 00:42:56,820 --> 00:42:59,220 I think it's gonna be a tiny number of people will deal with 1100 00:42:59,230 --> 00:43:02,600 it just like they've dealt with the 20% rise in in fees over the 1101 00:43:02,610 --> 00:43:04,120 years and private school places is not going down. 1102 00:43:04,130 --> 00:43:06,220 Anyway, I think that'd be fine. I think that is exactly where I 1103 00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:07,840 draw my line at the bottom of this argument. 1104 00:43:07,850 --> 00:43:11,300 And I would just say to people, if your child is going to 1105 00:43:11,310 --> 00:43:14,570 private school, I do not believe that you are on the breadline, 1106 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,810 no. And, and, and you may have 1107 00:43:16,820 --> 00:43:17,990 pushed yourself to the bread line. 1108 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,220 Hmm, OK. We may have made more sacrifices 1109 00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:22,350 than you may made more sacrifice that people get it. 1110 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,310 But if you are thinking of the macro level of the children I 1111 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,990 deal with every single day who have one jumper and it's 30 1112 00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:31,900 three days into the week, their parents could not afford 10 1113 00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:35,610 grand a year even if they spent nothing ever so. 1114 00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:39,580 You're not in the same, sorry. Anyway, good chat, I went on a 1115 00:43:39,590 --> 00:43:41,500 bit longer than I thought. Yeah, great chat. 1116 00:43:41,570 --> 00:43:43,120 I love that. Maybe we'll do a quick little 1117 00:43:43,130 --> 00:43:47,740 segment at the end and we were gonna have the next segment as 1118 00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:49,800 this episode, but I think this is gonna be episode title now. 1119 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,720 And what I'll do is I'm going to run through now my top tips to 1120 00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:56,520 survive times 6 cause bloody tough inning. 1121 00:43:56,530 --> 00:43:58,540 Yeah, let's do it after the Jingle, of course. 1122 00:43:58,620 --> 00:44:03,930 Most paying the Jingle Alright guys we're back and we did have 1123 00:44:03,940 --> 00:44:06,420 a little chat in the jungle and I know there's like this 1124 00:44:06,430 --> 00:44:08,780 episode. I said well this episode called 1125 00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:10,380 something else will come on at the end, but we'll chat about 1126 00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:12,580 something he wants to talk about That turned into a really nice 1127 00:44:12,590 --> 00:44:15,140 long chat. I think about the whole private 1128 00:44:15,150 --> 00:44:17,080 school that thing. So we're going to have that as 1129 00:44:17,090 --> 00:44:19,490 the bulk of this episode. So instead, I'm going to save my 1130 00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:23,310 top tips for how to survive times 6 to next week, one week 1131 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,770 closer to the end of Year 6. Anyway, people to TuneIn? 1132 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,020 I know, right? So yeah, come back next week 1133 00:44:28,030 --> 00:44:31,910 when we will be talking about our top tips on the craziness 1134 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,380 that is time 6 and how to how to get through to the end of the 1135 00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:36,060 year, which hopefully will be helpful to you guys. 1136 00:44:36,070 --> 00:44:38,640 So just to round off this episode then I've got a little 1137 00:44:38,650 --> 00:44:40,900 game. OK, I've game I I love them 1138 00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:42,440 online. You see shorts and reels and 1139 00:44:42,450 --> 00:44:44,180 stuff and it's always like little games people play. 1140 00:44:44,190 --> 00:44:46,480 And I'm always thinking, can we turn it into something where 1141 00:44:46,490 --> 00:44:48,860 it's like education based? The problem is that you can't 1142 00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:50,460 top. You'll never be able to top the 1143 00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:52,720 game from last week or the week before, whenever it was the 1144 00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:55,980 bowling hypothetical. Yeah, well, listen. 1145 00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:57,990 Please don't listen to me. We lost our minds. 1146 00:44:58,190 --> 00:44:59,700 I think that last week that was really. 1147 00:44:59,710 --> 00:45:01,580 I ended up asking that to like random people. 1148 00:45:01,590 --> 00:45:02,940 It was. Just in the street. 1149 00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:05,260 Just like what it was like 20/20/10. 1150 00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:06,670 People listening won't know. Yeah. 1151 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,170 OK. So don't watch it quick 1152 00:45:08,180 --> 00:45:11,320 hypothetical. I just say really quick, you had 1153 00:45:11,330 --> 00:45:13,000 was it 10? I don't mean to say 10. 1154 00:45:13,010 --> 00:45:15,520 Yeah, go. On I'll get it wrong basically, 1155 00:45:15,790 --> 00:45:18,040 which would you rather nothing in your life changed whatsoever? 1156 00:45:18,050 --> 00:45:22,780 Yeah or you have this other option where you get 10 million 1157 00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:25,510 hundred million pound £100 million if you bowl a strike in 1158 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,100 in one game in a game 10/10/10 attempts. 1159 00:45:28,110 --> 00:45:31,470 But if you don't, if you don't, you tend to a dog, right? 1160 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,960 So anyway, my game is very simple. 1161 00:45:34,970 --> 00:45:38,800 I've got 8 words here. I need you to say these words, 1162 00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:41,100 OK? So I ticked them off when you 1163 00:45:41,110 --> 00:45:42,860 say them. The only way I can get you to 1164 00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:44,790 say them is I give you clues, right? 1165 00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:48,870 I've got 20 words to play with. So for example, let's say the 1166 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,680 word is phone. I might say OK. 1167 00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:54,240 Talk. OK, and then I guess a word. 1168 00:45:54,250 --> 00:45:56,440 Based guess a word based on talk, you might say microphone, 1169 00:45:56,450 --> 00:45:58,520 OK, no, no. Then I get another word and I 1170 00:45:58,530 --> 00:46:03,500 might say it's OK, just get 5 minutes on your phone contract. 1171 00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:07,490 OK, so if Hayden gets it, you've got 20 of my words to get 1172 00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:09,280 through. Eight, I can't get all 8IN that 1173 00:46:09,290 --> 00:46:11,580 2020 per. One, you need to average like 1174 00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:13,700 two and a half, 2 1/2 words per. Question. 1175 00:46:13,970 --> 00:46:16,280 OK, ready. Good words, but the only thing 1176 00:46:16,290 --> 00:46:17,600 you're getting and you can play along at home. 1177 00:46:17,610 --> 00:46:22,760 Please do is these it's themed around our job education and you 1178 00:46:22,770 --> 00:46:32,350 know so so first word OK, rare. Time. 1179 00:46:34,220 --> 00:46:38,290 No sheets. Glue. 1180 00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:39,730 Yes, glue. Well done. 1181 00:46:39,740 --> 00:46:48,650 So you're on two next one time. Planning. 1182 00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:53,520 Afternoon. PA. 1183 00:46:53,530 --> 00:46:58,950 Yes, well done. So on four OK help. 1184 00:47:01,650 --> 00:47:08,500 Staff meetings help. Buddy help me I wanna leave No 1185 00:47:10,070 --> 00:47:18,930 good ohh team. TI yes, I realise. 1186 00:47:18,940 --> 00:47:20,530 That yes, yes. OK. 1187 00:47:20,540 --> 00:47:23,460 So 1633 out of eight, well, we were doing OK. 1188 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,410 OK, next one tree. Failed. 1189 00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:32,480 Staff Room. Wait sorry, did you say tree or 1190 00:47:32,490 --> 00:47:42,320 tree treat? So treat stuff from birthday. 1191 00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:51,200 Candles. That just makes me think better 1192 00:47:51,210 --> 00:47:53,410 again. Birthday celebrations. 1193 00:47:53,420 --> 00:47:56,060 Birthday cake is it? Like a daily word gay Jesus 1194 00:47:56,070 --> 00:47:57,240 Christ. OK. 1195 00:47:57,250 --> 00:48:00,350 So they're free then? Yeah, Yeah. 1196 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,970 OK. Ohh. 1197 00:48:01,980 --> 00:48:07,000 OK, Alright, next one maps geography. 1198 00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:13,580 Yes, easy, easy. Um, ohh, next one row five out 1199 00:48:13,590 --> 00:48:15,080 of eight. OK, this is a sick word. 1200 00:48:15,090 --> 00:48:19,050 Warm. That's rubbish. 1201 00:48:19,180 --> 00:48:24,520 Ohh, microwave. That classic education tool is 1202 00:48:24,530 --> 00:48:26,520 it. Sorry, every star has a 1203 00:48:26,530 --> 00:48:30,560 microphone. Lost. 1204 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,130 Ohh God I'm lost. Um, warm and lost. 1205 00:48:39,140 --> 00:48:42,440 Ohh I don't know, I'm going to just say some random so I can 1206 00:48:42,450 --> 00:48:46,380 get another word shared area. I don't know, I don't know. 1207 00:48:46,730 --> 00:48:47,970 OK, another clue. Buttons. 1208 00:48:50,030 --> 00:49:03,800 Lost buttons lost. Lost property now jumper coat. 1209 00:49:04,350 --> 00:49:06,070 Ohh no. Yeah. 1210 00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:16,090 You know, look like. Having ohh, I don't know. 1211 00:49:16,530 --> 00:49:19,070 It's stuck. Lighter. 1212 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:25,040 OK, umm, cardigan. Yes, yes, you said jump and I 1213 00:49:25,050 --> 00:49:27,280 was like my next one was jumper. Yeah. 1214 00:49:27,290 --> 00:49:30,800 Yeah, cool. 2 for 6/10/14. We're 14. 1215 00:49:30,810 --> 00:49:32,070 You got six guesses. Get the last two. 1216 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:32,690 We're gonna. Ohh. 1217 00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:33,490 Come on. Come on. 1218 00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:39,010 Come on here. To know which homophone you 1219 00:49:39,020 --> 00:49:42,250 mean. Oh my God that's so different 1220 00:49:44,140 --> 00:49:49,810 headphones. Morning. 1221 00:49:52,410 --> 00:49:56,160 Whistle. Lunch. 1222 00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:05,180 Break time. No here. 1223 00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:09,830 Morning, lunch. Check. 1224 00:50:13,550 --> 00:50:15,260 I'm still stuck on which here it is. 1225 00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:17,500 I'm like you came in so different. 1226 00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:21,750 Something in here or I hear what was the last one. 1227 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,980 Sorry. Check. 1228 00:50:23,110 --> 00:50:24,940 Check here. Morning lunch. 1229 00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:26,120 Check. Here. 1230 00:50:26,170 --> 00:50:28,400 Morning, lunch. Check register. 1231 00:50:28,410 --> 00:50:31,490 Yes, well, here's your here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1232 00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:32,430 You can whistle. That's right. 1233 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:33,780 Only got 2 left to get this one. No. 1234 00:50:33,790 --> 00:50:39,790 OK, monotonous. Planning. 1235 00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:50,980 Extremely. Whoa ohh, that's so. 1236 00:50:50,990 --> 00:50:53,740 Funny what you said, jumper. I honestly, my brain went ohh, 1237 00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:56,300 God, and when you said birthday because my next one was birthday 1238 00:50:56,310 --> 00:50:57,110 as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1239 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,360 I was gonna say birthday, and you're like, birthday. 1240 00:51:00,810 --> 00:51:02,470 The candles on my cake. Yeah. 1241 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,490 Treating the staff room. Funny Cake. 1242 00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:06,430 That was really good game. I thought it was gonna be a lot 1243 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:07,450 easier, actually. Yeah. 1244 00:51:07,460 --> 00:51:09,210 When we did the first couple, I was like, we're gonna do this in 1245 00:51:09,220 --> 00:51:11,120 like 10 guesses. Now, because it's one word and 1246 00:51:11,130 --> 00:51:13,020 like you said, there's always like little tiny. 1247 00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:16,850 Bit here I was like ohh man both of my phones are so relevant 1248 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,390 here as you know. Yeah. 1249 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,060 I thought it was quite good. I enjoyed. 1250 00:51:22,070 --> 00:51:24,950 That here, right here. Oh, I get it now. 1251 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,570 You hear on the playground. Because I thought one, I 1252 00:51:27,580 --> 00:51:29,060 thought, why? Why has the whistle in your 1253 00:51:29,070 --> 00:51:29,830 hands? You really laugh? 1254 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,070 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that that really made sense. 1255 00:51:32,300 --> 00:51:34,660 Well, it doesn't look. I appreciate that I need to find 1256 00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:36,930 some games. Because I need to do anything to 1257 00:51:36,940 --> 00:51:42,110 do this podcast would be great. Would have one story, really 1258 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,930 provocative, really provocative between now and at some point. 1259 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,890 That's really that's that's vague enough for me to enjoy go 1260 00:51:49,940 --> 00:51:52,150 guys gonna finish up there. Hope you enjoyed that one and do 1261 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,050 let us know because we, I don't know, I felt like we were very, 1262 00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:56,470 very opinionated on that one. Very. 1263 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,480 Yeah, you might have always agree. 1264 00:51:58,490 --> 00:52:02,070 And you know what? We're not afraid to hear new. 1265 00:52:04,010 --> 00:52:05,820 We're not wrong. I'm joking. 1266 00:52:05,830 --> 00:52:08,520 We we could be. But no, I don't know. 1267 00:52:08,530 --> 00:52:10,240 I feel like we evaluate that point pretty well. 1268 00:52:10,310 --> 00:52:11,880 Yeah. I think the greater good 1269 00:52:11,890 --> 00:52:14,800 outweighs the some of the negatives for sure A few 1270 00:52:14,810 --> 00:52:16,220 individual people, which I'm not gonna. 1271 00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:17,310 It's not negative. It is. 1272 00:52:17,350 --> 00:52:18,980 I think the greatest good is more important. 1273 00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:20,420 I think we should have a private schools. 1274 00:52:20,430 --> 00:52:23,190 Let us know what you think and let us know you thought about 1275 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,220 the game. 20 questions maybe how you do it to me next time. 1276 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,790 See you in the next one. Bye bye everyone.