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Hey everyone, welcome back to 
another episode of Teaching 

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Repeat. 
My name is Dylan and my name is 

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Hayden. 
It's Hayden and Hayden here 

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again. 
And don't don't worry, this 

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isn't the episode from last 
week. 

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I know Aiden late in the same 
top again, but it's not the 

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episode from last. 
Week. 

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I don't have many, many 
teachers, right, Dylan? 

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No, you don't. 
Where's the key? 

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Yeah. 
Where's the key? 

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Sorry, I thought I saw an inmate
on the screen, but. 

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Fresh out of gaol. 
I love, you know, I'm not only 

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having an inmate, I'm an inmate 
from France. 

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As always, listeners not 
watching completely pointless 

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content for you? 
Welcome back to this podcast. 

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Ohh, is that it? 
That's it. 

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I thought I was gonna let you 
take the reins. 

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This is ladies and gentlemen, 
this is what this podcast would 

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be if I didn't take the lead. 
But ohh, Dylan's always 

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interrupting and there's even 
This is why. 

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OK, so here's here's going to 
happen. 

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Aiden over? 
To you, Aiden. 

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Alright Ellen, over to me. 
So Dylan, how are you? 

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Yeah, bit of a cop out. 
I'm good, pal. 

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I'm good. 
We are one week in to our New 

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Year's resolution targets. 
We are. 

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So anyone who listened last 
week, it was all about the new 

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year and we set ourselves a 
competition because resolutions,

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Honestly, I used to hate them. 
Whenever I did them, I would 

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always be like that person. 
Why would I wait until January 

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the 1st to make a change or just
make a change straight away if 

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it's necessary? 
Well, the reason is because I 

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don't make the change. 
It's something to make me. 

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Do it? 
Exactly. 

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So we made a competition. 
Are you still on your daily 

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streak? 
Still on my daily streak of 

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fasting. 
Good. 

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So can you, how's that going? 
It's going really well, 

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genuinely. 
If anything, I'm adding in like 

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an extra. 
Hour. 

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What? 
The details now then tell us 

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actually, what are you doing? 
You're eating from when until. 

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When? 
So basically the loose rules are

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I eat between lunch and dinner, 
That's it. 

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So I have lunch and have dinner 
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fine. 
The technical timing I'm giving 

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myself are 12 to 8. 
So it's an 8 hour window you're 

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supposed to do for this 
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Does that always work? 
Though and like a newborn around

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do you ever find you're like I 
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fussing about to do this and. 
That I found it worked even 

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better. 
Because dinner, I think we're 

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we're quite good at just having 
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Yeah. 
Whereas lunch. 

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I suppose it's easy when you do 
nothing for the baby. 

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Ohh yeah. 
Was he saying? 

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Yeah, no, I did actually wonder 
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you used to have a really strict
times on your fasting, so I 

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thought that's not gonna happen 
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It. 
Yeah, well, basically, right. 

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The only thing that often 
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is lunch. 
OK, so it just delays my start 

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time, which actually makes the 
fasting even longer. 

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So quite often eating lunch at 
1:00, then still have dinner at 

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like 6, half 6-7. 
Change that. 

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And then realistically. 
I've just had a long feeling 

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Cramps, you, feeling pain, even 
hunger. 

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Fine, I thought. 
Absolutely fine. 

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I feel like what you should feel
like because I'm eating our 

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food. 
Yeah, a day. 

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Good point. 
I can't remember it was someone 

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was telling me before that, you 
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just there's just made-up things
in culture, right? 

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And we all just accept that's 
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Like the order of the alphabet, 
just things. 

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Like no one questions. 
It's just the thing. 

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Yeah, but objectively, would it 
really matter if C&E swap? 

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Yes, what I mean, right? 
And someone said to me one day 

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they were like, I think someone 
to do fitness. 

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Like maybe some of the worst Pi 
can't remember. 

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But they were like, you don't. 
There's no actual reason that we

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have breakfast, lunch and 
dinner. 

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Yeah, like that. 
We did just make up. 

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Then we have to have those free 
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Particular is not just because 
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wanna eat. 
I don't know, maybe. 

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But they they were talking about
how, you know, for a long time 

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in history, those things didn't 
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You just ate when you're hungry.
You just had food when you and 

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it could. 
You could go days without food. 

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And sometimes they didn't even 
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they were hunter gatherers. 
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So if you had to go another day 
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food, then you have to go 
another day. 

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We've just got really used to. 
Ohh, I have to. 

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I have to eat. 
My dinner, there's a whole adage

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Breakfast is the most important 
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I know so many people who don't 
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I mean, I'm sure there's 
something in that. 

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I'm sure there's something to do
with your metabolism. 

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I don't know. 
But I'm not fussed by breakfast 

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and and kind of flipped to you 
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breakfast. 
I am having breakfast now and 

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it's like I that's the one me 
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me. 
Yeah, I don't like eating in the

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morning, not really. 
But by 10:00 I'm hungry and I'm 

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like, well, that's what I'm. 
So do you feel better? 

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I suppose is the whole point of 
this is like do you actually 

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feel, I know obviously 
throughout this you know process

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when we come on and talk about 
it, we're gonna talk about like 

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the weight loss and stuff 
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whatever we're doing, it's gonna
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we're hoping to lose weight. 
But genuinely, the number one 

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goal is do you? 
Feel better in yourself? 

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Not yet. 
Really, no, not yet. 

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Being honest with you, I feel I 
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But I have done this diet before
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few weeks to kick in and feeling
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But at the moment I just feel 
exactly the same. 

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I think I just need to do it for
a bit longer really. 

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I mean, you obviously feel 
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No, I I don't feel massively 
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This is a really weird thing 
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So I'm doing the daily challenge
review and my challenge is to 

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not eat sugar. 
And to clarify, I mean like, you

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know, the most obviously added 
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process, super palatable foods 
like crisps and yeah, you know, 

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Pringles and chocolate and 
snacks and things like that. 

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All I'm doing is simply eating 
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not snacking that order. 
Yeah, Ohh. 

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No, ignore my comment about the 
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We Dylan. 
Doesn't. 

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Yeah. 
What do you mean, culture? 

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That breakfast, lunch and dinner
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everything's homemade. 
Yeah. 

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So no takeaways because? 
It's in the process. 

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Exactly, yeah. 
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I mean like McDonald's KFC for 
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We had a Nando's that time. 
I know Nando's sauce will have 

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some sugar in it. 
I understand that. 

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But the point is that I'm not 
having those like ultra bad 

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things. 
Because normally would have a 

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Nandos and then you'd smash like
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exactly, exactly and have like a
milkshake and terminates. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
That exactly what I'm doing. 

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I'll have three refillable full 
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So I've not had any sugary soft 
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I've just had water and I've had
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to be sustainable. 
When we had Nandos, I did have 

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some no added sugar lemonade, 
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So again, I'm not having all the
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been. 
Water 0 Sugar Lemonade not no 

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added sugar. 
That's. 

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Very Ohh yeah, 0 sugar. 
Yeah, there's no sugar. 

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But. 
But the point being that 95% of 

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my drinks now look at that. 
You know how much refuge change 

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that is for me? 
Yeah, I've not consumed any 

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chocolate. 
I'm not consumed any crisps. 

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Now the thing I wanted to talk 
about quickly was I don't have 

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that horrible pang that I've had
every other time I've done this,

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where after three or four days 
I've had this horrendous 

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headache like like intense in 
the front of my head, like, get 

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some sugar down you. 
Yeah, but the last time you did 

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it, you went. 
I did think it was a bit 

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extreme. 
You went actual, like, 

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completely no sugar. 
Yeah, that's a good point. 

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Dylan didn't eat anything with 
sugar, and I'm talking like 

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bread, like literally anything 
with sugar in it. 

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Didn't eat just completely, 
completely cold Turkey from 

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sugar, which was a bit silly, 
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Well, suspect it was, but I felt
unbelievably good. 

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But then you got the headaches 
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That yeah, I did. 
But I got through the headaches.

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That's what I mean. 
I was waiting for headaches to 

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finish and then you get through 
them and then you feel so much 

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better, Sure. 
So at this point I'm not 

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worried, but I'm kind of like, 
well, I've not had them 

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horrendous headaches. 
But honestly, like for dinner 

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and lunch and stuff. 
Lunch. 

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I've had chicken breast salad, 
so that's nothing. 

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Mornings I've had egg on toast 
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constantly had something home 
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I've been cooking a lot. 
I've been doing spaghetti 

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bolognese. 
I've been cooking a Curry. 

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Yeah, so all all that stuff is 
homemade and it is good, but 

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I've not had those pangs. 
I'm like, I'm either getting 

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away with it and this is 
brilliant or something's not 

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happened yet. 
It's on the horizon. 

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But yeah, in general it's good, 
it's really good. 

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But moving on from that nice 
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there, we're going strong. 
So we seven days now. 

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Yep, I'm going for as long as 
possible. 

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I want it to be like a. 
Lifestyle for you? 

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Yeah. 
I'll bet you it's not that 

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ultimate competition and mines 
harder. 

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So yeah you have got more 
extreme ones fair. 

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I need to start adding in a bit 
of your diet to mine. 

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Yesterday when I sat there in my
yeah, my Meringue tart. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, in my in my window. 
Your window. 

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I've had 74 Dairy Milk bars, but
it's in my window. 

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Anyway, how's your week at 
school? 

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I've been back. 
Yeah, it's it's been all right. 

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Yeah. 
I mean by all right. 

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I mean, yeah, you know, it's 
working. 

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It works work. 
We did a little part. 

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We're gonna have a lot more 
coming in later on. 

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But there was a there was a 
thank you so much on our 

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Instagram. 
By the way you follow us at tech

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support podcast. 
Let me say that again at Teach 

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Sleep repeat podcast. 
Do find us on there because 

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we're often putting on polls. 
We use that in our podcasts. 

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And the first question asked 
was, how are you feeling about 

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going back to work in 2024? 
Really split down the middle. 

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Now I know we're massively right
towards teachers, but I did have

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some friends on there, some 
other people to follow us who I 

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know aren't teachers who also 
went back to work in 2024, so 

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they're involved in that too. 
But it was really interesting to

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split 30% of people mostly 
positive, 30% of people mostly 

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negative. 
OK, 40% of people neutral. 

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Ohh right. 
Dead split down the middle. 

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So really, really even split. 
And I just thought it. 

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I looked at that and my first 
thought was, that's all right, 

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yeah. 
But if you really think about 

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it, going back to work is what 
you spend your life doing. 

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It's what you spend over half of
your awake time doing. 

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Hmm. 
The fact that it's 5050 on how 

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you feel about it is 
unbelievably bad, isn't it? 

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Like, it's objectively terrible 
that half of people, well, let's

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think 70% of people were neutral
or negative about going back to 

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do this thing they do for most 
of their lifetime. 

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Yay, capitalism. 
Baby capitalism, baby. 

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And I don't know, it just made, 
it just made me think. 

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When you think deeper about it, 
it's mad our society where we're

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like, oh, that's all right, 
that's my other, OK, you know, 

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half and half, 90%, that's up. 
Yeah, that's up. 

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I know. 
So it's just I I thought that 

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was crazy. 
But personally, in the moment, 

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the day before I went back, Hmm.
And when I was in school, I felt

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great. 
Yeah, I was positive because I 

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get to see my kids. 
Yeah. 

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I love seeing my kids. 
I love seeing my work colleagues

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I like. 
I just remember something. 

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Go on. 
What you laughing at me? 

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You're my work colleague. 
I love seeing my work 

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colleagues, love seeing the kids
in my class. 

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That was brilliant. 
That was brilliant. 

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But very slowly, the reality 
does hit you at 5:45 when I was 

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still at work on Wednesday, 
because I finished. 

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When I passed everything over, 
I'm like, OK that. 

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Yeah, there. 
Is lots to do. 

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Just lost completely. 
My initial feeling from day one 

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was ohh man this is. 
So we've got. 

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Children now, Yeah, they're just
makes it that bit more 

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exhausting. 
I just remembered you talking 

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about you've seen your kids and 
stuff. 

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I went into the staff room hands
and Dylan was in there and he 

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had his phone out. 
This is so cute really. 

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He was just standing there 
looking at pictures of Rory 

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cause he'd missed him because it
was lunchtime. 

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He hadn't seen him for like 3 or
4 hours. 

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He was standing there looking at
looking at his own pictures of 

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his child. 
Yeah, he's taking all his. 

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I miss him. 
Just was so cute. 

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Rory could be in my arms, just 
chilling, yeah. 

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And I'll look at pictures of 
him. 

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OK, that's weird, yeah. 
Just, I just want to look at him

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all the time. 
And any time anyone asked me and

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they're just being polite. 
Classic small talk like 

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Christmas. 
OK, don't ask me that, don't ask

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me that. 
Because of me. 

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Within 10 seconds, I like his 
picture of Rory smiling over my 

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shoulder. 
The Christmas tree. 

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Everyone. 
Everyone at work. 

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I've just obsessed. 
I just. 

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I miss. 
I miss him when I'm with him. 

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Like what do you think I feel 
like at work when you're with 

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him. 
Yeah. 

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I miss him when? 
When Especially when he's 

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asleep. 
I know people mean now. 

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Yeah, I'd like. 
I know it's exhausting and it's 

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tiring and stuff but when he 
when he goes to sleep. 

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Yeah. 
Ohh, I missed you. 

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I wanna see you. 
So I just watched him phone and 

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it was good. 
Just good. 

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It's a good feeling. 
Yeah, it's nice. 

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It's. 
Good. 

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I'm thoroughly enjoying having a
child, despite the sleepless 

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nights sometimes. 
But last night she slept all 

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night. 
Yeah, for the first time. 

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Like a whole night's. 
That's unreal and. 

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Crazy. 
So good. 

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You had that about this time, 
didn't you? 

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Remember. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Yeah, just been like it's 
something. 

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Wrong. 
I know. 

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Because we were we were up from 
like 2 till four. 

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Watching him wait like you're up
by now. 

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What's going on, man? 
Sleeping. 

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Yeah. 
Unbelievable. 

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But other than that, yeah, 
instantly. 

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Horribly exhausted is my phrase 
that I wrote down for how I felt

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about going back to school. 
Made me appreciate being at home

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a bit more and just being with 
with my gals and yeah. 

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Very, very, very grateful at 
this point and that we took that

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plunge to go part time. 
Yeah. 

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And took what was a risk at the 
time. 

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And we're not like don't want 
anyone to listen thinking we're 

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massively monetarily numerated 
for that. 

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Like it's not like we've we're 
unbelievably like. 

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We had a scary time, didn't we, 
When? 

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Yeah, last year we sort of went 
part time and then the cost of 

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living crisis all kind of kicked
in and our kind of like customer

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bases were yeah, we were like, 
oh, we've just gone part time. 

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Could you all come back? 
And they did over the year like 

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we got to do a really good 
place. 

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But it was it was it was like 
scary at first when when when 

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suddenly you're this is the 
thing that always keeps teachers

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in the job as security. 
Yeah. 

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Right. 
So when you go part time it 

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sounds like all roses and people
always take the Mick out of us I

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think, which I quite enjoy. 
I'd rather people be doing that 

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than being like are you OK now 
take the, take the. 

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Make of me when I'm walking out 
on a Wednesday. 

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Ohh, you want Monday. 
But like, there were certain 

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times I was like, haha, but you 
know, I did. 

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We did sacrifice hundreds of 
pounds to try and hope that this

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other thing works. 
Yeah, but and many. 

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Years of grafting on. 
Top of That's the thing. 

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It wasn't. 
I don't know how we did that, 

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man. 
No, we couldn't do now. 

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I'm glad we did it. 
We. 

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Did it? 
We did, didn't we? 

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About how tutoring helped us go 
part-time. 

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Go check it out. 
We talked about our story of 

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going part time and how we built
our. 

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Business. 
It's one of our biggest, biggest

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episodes of almost 60, yeah. 
And all I would say to people is

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don't. 
This is interesting because I 

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know, I know, I know, I know, I 
know. 

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We're going to talk to people in
the future who have left 

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teaching been successful. 
I, you know, I don't want people

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to think it's all roses and 
simple. 

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It's not OK You don't quit and 
then hope it's a three, 4-5 

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years of working. 
Constantly evenings and 

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weekends. 
Creating curriculums, making 

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stuff, building business to be 
able to do that. 

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So don't just you see the light 
and you think, oh wow, you've 

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done it, there's a bit more. 
Complicated. 

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You see, the Instagram rails are
like 2 steps on how you can 

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become financially free this. 
Year, Yeah, No. 

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Or if it was just two steps and 
everyone would. 

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Do do some drop shipping on 
Amazon. 

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No stop. 
But anyway other than that I had

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one funny thing and one thing 
that I just kind of want your 

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opinion. 
Really so funny thing one of the

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I've got. 
I've got the nicest class this. 

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Year. 
I know because I thought so 

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nice. 
And they're my babies. 

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They're just lovely, man. 
I just love it. 

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Anyway, one of them is, boy, I 
like in the class he was really 

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sweet, like he's got such a nice
personality. 

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He came in, it was just post 
Christmas and he got this little

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literally just a little plastic 
bowl, right? 

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And it's got a button on it. 
Hmm. 

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And if you roll it, it always 
lands on on this button and then

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it makes a fart noise. 
And he was so proud of it, 

368
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right? 
This gives really genuinely so 

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chilled and nice, normally very 
quiet. 

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And then it's just about to 
start my input in maths and my 

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door opened, he's in another 
class and this ball came rolling

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in. 
I immediately knew what it was 

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and it landed and everyone did 
this fart noise and I could just

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see him giggling and laughing 
outside the door. 

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Like, you just think of the 
situations where that would 

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annoy you, right? 
Other classes or particular 

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children. 
But no, that's really because it

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was him, because he never does 
this thing and he knew the right

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time. 
He hadn't started really. 

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00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,200
I was just getting people sat 
down and it just really made me 

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laugh and it made my day and it 
made his day. 

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With a different teacher, that 
would have been a huge. 

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Problem Big Yeah, I think he 
knew. 

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But but this is my point. 
Though I think this is my point.

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Bigging you up a bit sometimes. 
Who cares? 

386
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It's sometimes who cares? 
Yeah, look at this. 

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It's not a blanket. 
That's always bad. 

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00:15:27,730 --> 00:15:31,260
But aren't you awful? 
Come on, they're human being. 

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Less than one. 
Yeah. 

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Like, if anything, it just the 
most important. 

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That's a bit happy, yeah. 
Happy, like, cheered up. 

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00:15:37,170 --> 00:15:39,220
It doesn't come back to school. 
Yeah, it was funny. 

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But he knows, like, there's no 
way. 

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One, he would never do it again.
Yeah, the joke's over now. 

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And some kids would do it. 
They see you laugh at one time. 

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They do it might make more 
times. 

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And it's like, yeah, you 
wouldn't do again. 

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And there's no way he would have
done it in like, a natural, 

399
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crucial time. 
Yeah. 

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So it's just. 
Yeah, ohh blessing. 

401
00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:53,330
So that's that. 
That's good. 

402
00:15:53,340 --> 00:15:56,690
There's another slightly funny 
thing, OK, I don't know what to 

403
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do about really. 
Alright. 

404
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And this is where you might. 
You are about teacher. 

405
00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,560
So because I do like to have a 
bit of fun with the kids, do ya?

406
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And maybe sometimes maths blows 
up. 

407
00:16:06,860 --> 00:16:08,990
Mask done any of that this year?
That was nuts. 

408
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,160
Like what was wrong with me last
year? 

409
00:16:10,170 --> 00:16:11,340
You. 
Were almost think I lost. 

410
00:16:11,350 --> 00:16:11,950
The plot, Yeah. 
I. 

411
00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,170
Think we both did? 
Lost the plot? 

412
00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:14,450
Great. 
Time to start a podcast where 

413
00:16:14,460 --> 00:16:16,870
both Yeah. 
Yeah, if you don't want blow, 

414
00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,070
dark matter is go and just 
listen to any of the, any of. 

415
00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,340
The episodes and just hear. 
About the insane things was 

416
00:16:22,350 --> 00:16:26,890
doing last year of Mass. 
So obviously I joke about my 

417
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baldness with the kids 
sometimes, right They're bored. 

418
00:16:29,870 --> 00:16:31,100
I'm bored. 
If you didn't know if you're not

419
00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:32,930
watching bald, you might. 
I don't sound like it. 

420
00:16:32,940 --> 00:16:34,470
I know. 
Sound like I've got a lot of 

421
00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:35,390
hair. 
Can you? 

422
00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,170
Can you do a voice if someone 
who's bored? 

423
00:16:37,180 --> 00:16:38,630
Like what? 
Someone who's bored, Someone is 

424
00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,260
bored. 
Ohh hello everyone. 

425
00:16:42,330 --> 00:16:45,640
I'm I don't have much hair. 
Boy, my voice sounds a little 

426
00:16:45,650 --> 00:16:48,080
bit different now we've got lots
of hair. 

427
00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:50,070
It soaked up the soaks up, the 
was thinking. 

428
00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,190
More Ross Kemp. 
Alright mate, I'm bored. 

429
00:16:53,670 --> 00:16:56,920
Anyway, from extras. 
That's it. 

430
00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,270
So yeah, a few jokes. 
And obviously you've joked about

431
00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,810
it as well. 
So you've you've trained 

432
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children to say OK as. 
Retaliation for being called an 

433
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ogre everyday. 
Let's make that clear. 

434
00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,770
No, I'm. 
I'm the Gruffalo. 

435
00:17:08,780 --> 00:17:10,589
Works in year four, right? 
Yeah, Yeah. 

436
00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:12,869
There we go. 
So he's trained kids to say make

437
00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,440
jokes about my baldness. 
Anyway, the free hairs. 

438
00:17:17,420 --> 00:17:19,609
Yeah, I'm gonna. 
Stop and and then the kids At 

439
00:17:19,619 --> 00:17:21,750
one point this song, the song 
like baldy Baldy over there, 

440
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,240
you've got no hair, something 
like that. 

441
00:17:23,250 --> 00:17:26,550
Like Baldy Baldy over there. 
What's it like to have no hair. 

442
00:17:26,660 --> 00:17:29,390
And a couple of them sang. 
Never thought that like a break 

443
00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,020
time. 
And I was like did the whole. 

444
00:17:31,030 --> 00:17:33,240
That's so cheeky because you 
can't say that. 

445
00:17:33,250 --> 00:17:34,370
Anyway there's nothing more of 
it. 

446
00:17:34,380 --> 00:17:38,980
They just wanna giggled or run 
off until umm, I was dismissing 

447
00:17:38,990 --> 00:17:40,360
the kids at the end of the day. 
Yeah. 

448
00:17:40,430 --> 00:17:44,700
And are you small sibling OK of 
one of the children who's not 

449
00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:45,980
ask us. 
We're a Junior School. 

450
00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:47,920
They they must be in like year 
one or something. 

451
00:17:47,970 --> 00:17:55,050
Come running over really excited
and when ohh dear baldy got no 

452
00:17:55,060 --> 00:17:59,880
hair ohh no What's it like to 
have no hair little kid? 

453
00:17:59,890 --> 00:18:03,440
I don't know who this child is 
on the playground like in front 

454
00:18:03,450 --> 00:18:05,050
of all like the parents and my 
kids. 

455
00:18:05,060 --> 00:18:07,760
I'm dismissing. 
I'm like ohh was so awkward 

456
00:18:07,770 --> 00:18:09,800
because my instant reaction was 
I need to tell this child off 

457
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because that's like they've 
crossed the line. 

458
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,350
I don't mind it when kids 
understand the line and they 

459
00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:17,060
know why. 
Joke I don't even know the kid 

460
00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:19,400
in my class. 
Their sibling has obviously gone

461
00:18:19,410 --> 00:18:21,580
home and. 
Said. 

462
00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:23,550
This is what we've said to my 
teacher. 

463
00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,470
And I'm like, Oh no, this is 
where it goes wrong. 

464
00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,830
Yeah, because that's not OK. 
No, that's where. 

465
00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,290
You've made your bed and you 
have to line it because that 

466
00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:35,900
situation you cannot possibly 
then tell her off like her 

467
00:18:35,910 --> 00:18:38,810
brother's done it in school to 
his teacher shouting at the 

468
00:18:38,820 --> 00:18:42,980
yeah, yeah, no, no, no, Ohh. 
So I was just I was like ohh 

469
00:18:42,990 --> 00:18:45,280
this is so cringe and I hope the
parents aren't listening cause 

470
00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:47,350
anyone if I was, if I was a 
parent and saw that I'd be 

471
00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:48,700
thinking about teachers. 
Got no control. 

472
00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:50,480
OK, so. 
Here's the thing, then. 

473
00:18:50,490 --> 00:18:54,250
That is the point, isn't it? 
If you if there's something that

474
00:18:54,260 --> 00:18:57,900
happens and you wouldn't want 
parents to hear it, then it's 

475
00:18:57,910 --> 00:18:59,920
not good, is it? 
I don't know. 

476
00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:02,670
Because it might just be that I 
think they don't know the 

477
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,740
context, so. 
I guess so, but in that. 

478
00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:06,220
Situation I wouldn't want them 
well. 

479
00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:08,280
Yeah. 
And this is the problem with as 

480
00:19:08,290 --> 00:19:11,200
a teacher, especially in year 
six when they've had five other 

481
00:19:11,210 --> 00:19:15,550
teachers or 6-7 other teachers 
ever who have this line where 

482
00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,580
that's not acceptable for you 
to. 

483
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:19,330
Then in year six we're like, Oh 
yeah, that is acceptable. 

484
00:19:19,340 --> 00:19:21,110
That's obviously going to go 
around and be like. 

485
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,050
Yeah, because I'd feel if we had
another bald teacher at school, 

486
00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:26,430
Yeah. 
And then they went and did that 

487
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,670
to them. 
I would feel awkward because I 

488
00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,170
don't want to presume that 
you're OK Sure. 

489
00:19:29,180 --> 00:19:30,670
Sure, sure, sure. 
Exactly. 

490
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,590
Yeah. 
And it could work with children.

491
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,560
I think the onus is always on 
us. 

492
00:19:34,570 --> 00:19:35,770
We need to own it. 
Own it. 

493
00:19:35,780 --> 00:19:37,450
And be like, OK, yeah, that's my
problem. 

494
00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:39,870
Yeah, so own it. 
I cried. 

495
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:40,990
And went off. 
Yeah, you did. 

496
00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:41,980
You did. 
It was just really. 

497
00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:44,050
Awkward. 
Just stop doing that. 

498
00:19:44,060 --> 00:19:45,750
Well, no, I. 
Think it's just when I look 

499
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,170
over. 
To you. 

500
00:19:46,180 --> 00:19:50,790
Then you realise. 
Yeah, it's me. 

501
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,080
Get on my high horse. 
I think you just have to own it.

502
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:57,640
Years of saying it's OK now. 
No. 

503
00:19:57,650 --> 00:20:00,020
Now go and get Lord Baltimore 
his lunch, please. 

504
00:20:00,030 --> 00:20:02,940
Thank you. 
Yeah, but anyway, all good. 

505
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,230
So that's a long 20 minute. 
It's a really long term. 

506
00:20:05,410 --> 00:20:06,810
Didn't even talk. 
About your day what? 

507
00:20:07,550 --> 00:20:10,060
Was going to say is there's a 
whole thing a minute with darts.

508
00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:13,120
Been up for the darts because 
the maths doubles trebles and 

509
00:20:13,130 --> 00:20:14,390
things. 
The only thing I was going to 

510
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,280
say, it's been a whole discourse
on like the news and stuff, like

511
00:20:17,290 --> 00:20:19,240
GB News and why they keep going 
on about it. 

512
00:20:19,410 --> 00:20:21,990
And it keeps popping up. 
Like call for darts in schools 

513
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,310
because it's good for maths 
class. 

514
00:20:24,420 --> 00:20:25,770
No. 
Yeah. 

515
00:20:25,780 --> 00:20:27,740
Like, no. 
Like I I, I watched the darts 

516
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:29,670
and I was like, that's really 
cool opportunity. 

517
00:20:29,860 --> 00:20:31,990
We can use that. 
Of course we can do it every now

518
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,590
and then. 
Yeah. 

519
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,130
Amazing. 
What do you mean though? 

520
00:20:34,140 --> 00:20:36,050
Call for ducks? 
Are we just gonna do doubles or 

521
00:20:36,060 --> 00:20:38,320
you replace? 
Them maths and yeah, we're just.

522
00:20:38,330 --> 00:20:41,450
Gonna it's a really cool tool 
and we should as teachers be 

523
00:20:41,460 --> 00:20:44,350
looking for tools and I'm gonna 
use it at some point and I think

524
00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:48,230
it's great and we can watch 
YouTube videos or get a magnetic

525
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,930
dartboard but it would be the 
same as getting a fractional it 

526
00:20:50,940 --> 00:20:53,790
would be the same as getting 
some counters it it's just a 

527
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,310
resource the idea of like course
written score. 

528
00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,190
Look at his look at his yeah 
this kid didn't get GCSE maths 

529
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,880
so didn't get any like he he 
didn't pass his maths GCSE's and

530
00:21:03,890 --> 00:21:06,510
he's amazing at darts as good as
you can possibly be at like 

531
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,120
arithmetic and stuff. 
So that does show that the darts

532
00:21:10,130 --> 00:21:12,540
isn't the answer to get kids to 
their GP. 

533
00:21:12,550 --> 00:21:14,660
Yeah, it shows. 
It's a really cool thing. 

534
00:21:14,730 --> 00:21:17,180
That's amazing for that one and 
that can really help a lot of 

535
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:18,220
kids. 
And what he's done is 

536
00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:20,260
unbelievable as all the way 
behind him. 

537
00:21:20,300 --> 00:21:23,700
But let's not pretend that Ohh, 
let's put that into while 

538
00:21:23,710 --> 00:21:24,930
they're not doing that in 
schools. 

539
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,470
Again, because it's not useful 
for the curriculum like as a 

540
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,280
whole, it's useful for a bit. 
It's also a. 

541
00:21:29,290 --> 00:21:33,120
Very specific end game kind of 
knowledge, doubles and triples. 

542
00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:35,790
But. 
Also an adding yeah, but it's 

543
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,090
the start on 5/01 is the 
instantly knowing what they're 

544
00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:39,830
down to. 
Yeah yeah. 

545
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,900
When they hit some darts and 
what they need to change to, 

546
00:21:41,910 --> 00:21:45,260
like if they miss, they know 
exactly what stuff like that. 

547
00:21:45,370 --> 00:21:49,240
It's a cool skill. 
But when my kids don't know the 

548
00:21:49,250 --> 00:21:53,110
number ones to 10, Yeah, that is
not that. 

549
00:21:53,150 --> 00:21:56,490
Darts is the absolute end game 
of that kind of knowledge. 

550
00:21:56,500 --> 00:21:58,470
It's like that's not something 
I'd ever want to do with those 

551
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,110
kids. 
Yeah, unless the darts went up 

552
00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:01,300
to two. 
Can you imagine? 

553
00:22:01,310 --> 00:22:04,390
Me is like one and two only. 
I just, it's just I I get it's 

554
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,350
cool. 
But I'd probably only do it as 

555
00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:09,210
like an enrichment activity with
the best mathematicians really 

556
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,540
at the primary school level. 
Like we're on 200. 

557
00:22:11,550 --> 00:22:13,870
And 73? 
I've just hit 318. 

558
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,930
Two sevens and a four. 
What am I left with? 

559
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,980
Yeah, and. 
How many of your kids? 

560
00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:19,190
Well, I. 
Didn't do it. 

561
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,410
It's not relevant. 
I watched arts and I absolutely 

562
00:22:21,420 --> 00:22:23,270
can't do that. 
Yeah, it's a skill, isn't it? 

563
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,490
Like it doesn't. 
I'm good at maths but I cannot 

564
00:22:25,570 --> 00:22:26,730
do that. 
Yeah, I've not learned that 

565
00:22:26,740 --> 00:22:27,510
skill. 
It's a cool. 

566
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,380
Skill to have. 
No no harm in teaching the kids 

567
00:22:29,390 --> 00:22:31,430
here. 
Please stop telling us to put in

568
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,760
well the timetables already 
round. 

569
00:22:33,770 --> 00:22:36,570
Ohh. 
That's that's like a a call 

570
00:22:36,580 --> 00:22:38,970
forward to you know what we're 
going to talk about is the 

571
00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:41,010
timetable. 
Fit for purpose? 

572
00:22:41,020 --> 00:22:42,110
That's cool. 
Let's do a. 

573
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:43,990
Jingle and come back to that 
question. 

574
00:22:46,460 --> 00:22:49,650
So Hayden, before the Jingle I 
asked you one simple question. 

575
00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:53,050
Is the primary school timetable 
fit for purpose? 

576
00:22:53,060 --> 00:22:54,150
Thanks for. 
Reminding me Dylan. 

577
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,660
I hadn't. 
I hadn't remembered that, no. 

578
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,590
How many times have we made that
joke we are? 

579
00:23:01,660 --> 00:23:04,600
So record you know. 
OK, let's let's dive a bit more 

580
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,350
real. 
Answer OK, real answer. 

581
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:08,830
Now, so the primary school 
timetable, it's a very generic 

582
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,050
question. 
We're gonna go into lots of 

583
00:23:10,060 --> 00:23:12,520
detail about lots of different 
parts of the timetable, the 

584
00:23:12,530 --> 00:23:14,700
amount of stuff we have to 
teach, the order we have to 

585
00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:18,370
teach it, the proportion of what
we get for each lesson, etc etc.

586
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,160
But in general, what is your 
first response to this question?

587
00:23:21,170 --> 00:23:24,310
Because it's a big one at the 
minute, a lot of discussion 

588
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,240
around it. 
Is the primary school timetable 

589
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,480
fit for purpose? 
Does it meet a goal? 

590
00:23:29,490 --> 00:23:31,080
Is it? 
Is it there for a reason? 

591
00:23:31,090 --> 00:23:32,120
Is it good? 
So if someone. 

592
00:23:32,130 --> 00:23:34,100
On the street asked if I wasn't 
in the podcast right now where I

593
00:23:34,110 --> 00:23:35,760
know we're gonna talk about it 
forever, and someone just asked 

594
00:23:35,770 --> 00:23:37,340
me that and they wanted a fairly
quick answer. 

595
00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:41,920
My gut reaction to that is I 
don't think so because it 

596
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:44,460
doesn't feel like we can fit it 
all in. 

597
00:23:44,510 --> 00:23:47,170
OK, I think that would be. 
That's kind of like the big 

598
00:23:47,180 --> 00:23:49,080
answer, which we can dive into a
bit more. 

599
00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:53,450
But it just doesn't feel. 
I constantly feel like I'm not 

600
00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:55,260
doing all of the things I should
be doing. 

601
00:23:55,270 --> 00:23:57,440
Or you'll speak to teachers from
other schools and like, what? 

602
00:23:57,450 --> 00:23:59,010
You only do three lessons of 
that week. 

603
00:23:59,020 --> 00:24:01,100
We do 5. 
Because then the curriculum says

604
00:24:01,110 --> 00:24:02,710
you have to do five of these. 
Yeah. 

605
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,880
And it's like, well, we can't 
fit. 

606
00:24:03,890 --> 00:24:05,960
If we do that, then we have to 
drop something else in another 

607
00:24:05,970 --> 00:24:07,270
school. 
The thing you dropped to be 

608
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,660
like, oh, no, you can't drop 
that. 

609
00:24:08,670 --> 00:24:10,150
That's really important. 
We do. 

610
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,250
We we make sure we do an art and
DT lesson every single week of 

611
00:24:13,260 --> 00:24:15,760
every of every term. 
And we're like, OK, well, we 

612
00:24:15,770 --> 00:24:18,130
can't drop that then it does 
just get to the point. 

613
00:24:18,140 --> 00:24:20,860
If you carry on doing that and 
then go for that analogy, it's 

614
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:22,570
like, OK, we can't actually fit 
it all in. 

615
00:24:22,820 --> 00:24:25,240
So what would your answer be 
like you know, if someone said 

616
00:24:25,250 --> 00:24:27,490
to you, no. 
OK, so you're given the the 

617
00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:30,770
ability to now design A 
timetable because you're saying 

618
00:24:30,780 --> 00:24:33,780
the timetable itself is wrong. 
There's almost two prongs here 

619
00:24:33,790 --> 00:24:36,940
of the timetable and the amount 
of stuff we have to do. 

620
00:24:37,070 --> 00:24:39,540
So OK, the amount of stuff we 
have to do is too much. 

621
00:24:39,550 --> 00:24:41,400
Agreed. 
So then what would you do with 

622
00:24:41,410 --> 00:24:43,840
the timetable and how can you 
fix this? 

623
00:24:43,850 --> 00:24:45,660
If the timetable is not fit for 
purpose? 

624
00:24:45,710 --> 00:24:50,540
What would be your answer? 
Not saying do less the actual 

625
00:24:50,550 --> 00:24:53,790
timetable itself. 
What do you think is wrong with 

626
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,470
it? 
This is this is. 

627
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,280
Where it's really hard because I
don't think that. 

628
00:24:56,590 --> 00:24:58,820
I think it's hard to answer that
question because I'm, I mean, 

629
00:24:58,830 --> 00:25:02,690
maybe you've got an answer but 
I'm not sure the timetable or 

630
00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:05,020
anything to do with the 
timetable is the solution 

631
00:25:05,290 --> 00:25:09,890
because I do. 
I think there is literally just 

632
00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:11,710
too much to fit in. 
I don't think there's any 

633
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,930
magical timetable you could do. 
Yeah, with this curriculum where

634
00:25:14,940 --> 00:25:17,830
you feel like you've adequately 
covered every subject to the 

635
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,650
level that they're supposed to 
be covered in. 

636
00:25:19,660 --> 00:25:20,990
OK. 
I don't know. 

637
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,990
What do you think? 
Well, we asked again on 

638
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,050
Instagram a simple question. 
Given the power, would you 

639
00:25:27,060 --> 00:25:29,530
change your schools timetable? 
Nothing to do with what needs to

640
00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:31,980
be covered. 
So let's try and focus down that

641
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:33,200
narrow bit I suppose for a 
minute. 

642
00:25:34,130 --> 00:25:36,300
And 58% said, yes, I would 
change it. 

643
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:39,600
Now 42% said they wouldn't and I
think that's boiled down to 

644
00:25:39,610 --> 00:25:41,860
what's the point in changing it.
Yeah, we love same thing you 

645
00:25:41,870 --> 00:25:42,730
said. 
Well, what's the point? 

646
00:25:42,740 --> 00:25:44,170
Because then we'll just be 
missing four they. 

647
00:25:44,180 --> 00:25:45,660
Just got a good timetable, 
exactly. 

648
00:25:45,670 --> 00:25:47,020
They need to get in touch with 
us to tell us. 

649
00:25:47,270 --> 00:25:50,420
Yeah, but 58% still said yes, I 
would change it. 

650
00:25:50,610 --> 00:25:56,000
And I suppose their point is OK,
we've got too much to cover. 

651
00:25:56,330 --> 00:26:00,720
But in the current system, one 
person said to me, I would love 

652
00:26:00,730 --> 00:26:03,340
for a bit more creativity. 
I'd love for a bit more of a 

653
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:04,910
chance for children to be 
Mystic. 

654
00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:08,190
Yeah, I'd hate I I want a bit 
less of a concentration on maths

655
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,010
and English. 
Yeah, that's and science and and

656
00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:13,230
you know, although they're 
important, they certainly do 

657
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,130
take up a huge chunk of the 
timetable. 

658
00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:19,090
So do you think there's any 
merit in the timetable, perhaps 

659
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:21,730
changing to reflect the fact 
that not everyone's got an 

660
00:26:21,740 --> 00:26:24,150
English or maths or a science 
lesson? 

661
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,630
Kind of money. 
There are creatives out there, 

662
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,430
definitely. 
All right. 

663
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,990
I think if we just for a minute,
we're just ignore the end goal 

664
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,970
that the government pressure the
assessment. 

665
00:26:33,980 --> 00:26:38,010
If we ignore the fact that we 
all get grilled as a country, as

666
00:26:38,020 --> 00:26:40,470
a profession. 
If we dropped a mass lesson a 

667
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,010
week and actually the standard 
of mass went down ever so 

668
00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:45,700
slightly, but children were 
happy and doing because if they 

669
00:26:45,710 --> 00:26:46,770
if. 
They did that and got better at 

670
00:26:46,780 --> 00:26:48,050
art. 
There'd be no way of telling, 

671
00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:48,860
really, no. 
And they. 

672
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:50,360
And the government don't care 
about this, that's why, I mean 

673
00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:52,800
from the government have made it
very, very clear. 

674
00:26:52,810 --> 00:26:55,910
So for those not in education, 
it's, you know, it's always been

675
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,340
maths and English heavy and 
science, it used to be a lot 

676
00:26:58,350 --> 00:27:01,050
more important. 
But over the last, like 10 years

677
00:27:01,060 --> 00:27:04,710
we have become obsessed. 
Obsessed with maths and English 

678
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,740
only specifically about nothing 
else matters. 

679
00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:08,200
We will pretend, the government 
pretend. 

680
00:27:08,210 --> 00:27:09,560
Oh yeah, these subjects are 
important. 

681
00:27:09,570 --> 00:27:12,310
But but look at these big league
tables we've got and we're going

682
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,580
to compare internationally with 
maths. 

683
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:15,690
Come on guys, China are smashing
us in maths. 

684
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:19,840
Yeah, come on teachers. 
Yeah, if we just ignored that 

685
00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:22,180
for a bit, I think we probably 
could make a better timetable 

686
00:27:22,190 --> 00:27:25,820
where maybe we didn't do maths 
and English every single day, 

687
00:27:25,870 --> 00:27:28,500
even just four days a week. 
How much time that would free 

688
00:27:28,510 --> 00:27:31,330
up? 
Like most school, I'd say the 

689
00:27:31,340 --> 00:27:34,020
majority of schools in this 
country, based on my limited 

690
00:27:34,030 --> 00:27:36,030
knowledge just from talking to 
other teachers, do maths and 

691
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,650
English every single day. 
Ohh absolutely. 

692
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,770
Absolutely. 
Over 95%, I think. 

693
00:27:39,780 --> 00:27:40,360
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

694
00:27:40,370 --> 00:27:42,690
There are schools that don't, I 
have definitely heard of schools

695
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:45,540
where it's like, Oh no, no, we 
we just have like 3 or 4 maths 

696
00:27:45,550 --> 00:27:47,910
sessions a week. 
One of them's in the afternoon. 

697
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,880
Yeah, three of them are in the 
morning, but don't you? 

698
00:27:49,890 --> 00:27:52,530
Think that with English and 
maths in particular there 

699
00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:55,090
there's so much emphasis put on 
them because they're so 

700
00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:57,230
important, they come up 
everywhere, right? 

701
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,530
Reading a mass comes up and 
everything OK, so therefore a 

702
00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:04,070
science lesson could be maths, 
history and geography lessons 

703
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,090
could be. 
Reading history is almost 

704
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:09,070
always, yeah. 
So there's no reason why we 

705
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,270
can't have less English time in 
inverted commas and more history

706
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,920
time. 
Well, they're still reading, 

707
00:28:14,930 --> 00:28:17,310
they're still learning new 
vocabulary, they're still going 

708
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,700
to be doing spelling like 
they're going to be doing 

709
00:28:19,710 --> 00:28:21,560
handwriting in the afternoon. 
You can still, you can still do 

710
00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:25,060
this kind of stuff built in 
cross curricula, but less, I 

711
00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:27,400
don't know. 
I feel like with that there 

712
00:28:27,410 --> 00:28:30,060
seems to be less structure and a
huge thing that's really 

713
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:32,640
important to people in teaching 
and myself included. 

714
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:35,990
I like structure. 
So the idea of daily maths, 

715
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,560
daily English, three afternoon 
lessons a week, one afternoon of

716
00:28:39,570 --> 00:28:43,160
PE, one afternoon of PPA. 
I know my PPA days on a Tuesday.

717
00:28:43,270 --> 00:28:45,200
I know that on a Friday I'm 
going to do an arithmetic test 

718
00:28:45,210 --> 00:28:46,380
in the morning. 
Yeah, I know that. 

719
00:28:46,390 --> 00:28:48,960
I'm gonna check timetables every
single day from this time to 

720
00:28:48,970 --> 00:28:51,680
this time. 
I suppose the timetable at the 

721
00:28:51,690 --> 00:28:53,960
minute is really good for that 
kind of structure, yeah. 

722
00:28:54,030 --> 00:28:57,120
Yeah, and. 
Moving away from that, you're 

723
00:28:57,130 --> 00:28:59,100
gonna lose some of that 
structure and that kind of 

724
00:28:59,110 --> 00:29:00,320
knowing what you're doing every 
day. 

725
00:29:00,330 --> 00:29:03,470
So in your point of view, how 
important is it for a timetable 

726
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,520
to be consistent compared to all
over the place? 

727
00:29:07,530 --> 00:29:09,070
This is a tough. 
One, because I think it does 

728
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,200
boil down a bit to personal 
preference here, right? 

729
00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:16,220
I am similar to you. 
I really, really like a very set

730
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:19,980
routine, but I think that is 
because I just the job is so 

731
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:21,030
stressful. 
Sure. 

732
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,110
I think there's there's lots of 
elements here that are all like 

733
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,170
working together. 
I think if the job wasn't as 

734
00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:27,870
stressful, if I didn't have as, 
if the pressures of maths and 

735
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,480
English maybe weren't so heavy, 
then maybe I would be a bit more

736
00:29:30,490 --> 00:29:32,830
inclined to have a more flexible
timetable. 

737
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,120
I know that's one of our points 
to talk about is this kind of, 

738
00:29:35,970 --> 00:29:39,080
you know, most schools have a 
static timetable, I think. 

739
00:29:39,130 --> 00:29:41,120
I think most schools, if you 
went in there, they'd be like, 

740
00:29:41,130 --> 00:29:42,540
yeah, on Mondays. 
We did this on Tuesdays, we do 

741
00:29:42,550 --> 00:29:44,090
this weekend. 
On the table a weekly. 

742
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:46,100
Timetable. 
Sometimes that changes per term.

743
00:29:46,150 --> 00:29:48,700
Yeah, like I know our certainly 
does every, every term 

744
00:29:48,790 --> 00:29:49,500
afternoons. 
Do. 

745
00:29:49,550 --> 00:29:50,880
Yeah, we'll. 
Do different things in the 

746
00:29:50,890 --> 00:29:52,620
afternoon or whatever. 
But generally, you know, I'm 

747
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:54,220
saying it's the same time every 
single day. 

748
00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:57,960
But I have a friend who works in
a school where they have a 

749
00:29:57,970 --> 00:30:01,900
flexible timetable and they will
do English at different times at

750
00:30:01,910 --> 00:30:03,600
different weeks. 
And I'm like, how can you cope 

751
00:30:03,610 --> 00:30:04,940
with that? 
Like, yeah, we just the week 

752
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:07,150
before, we just kind of map out 
our week, right? 

753
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:07,770
Map out. 
Yeah. 

754
00:30:07,780 --> 00:30:09,210
You know we've got a lot of 
history to this week. 

755
00:30:09,220 --> 00:30:11,090
So when I drop one of the 
English lessons, we're gonna do 

756
00:30:11,140 --> 00:30:13,940
double history and then next 
week we're gonna pop in another 

757
00:30:13,950 --> 00:30:16,600
English in the do you think? 
That's better, more responsive 

758
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,290
it probably. 
Probably is better, yeah. 

759
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:19,990
Stress. 
More stressful, I think, as a 

760
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,890
teacher. 
More workload I suppose in terms

761
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:24,290
of this is the problem with 
being a teacher at the minute I 

762
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:27,570
feel like everything that makes 
you a good teacher is extra 

763
00:30:27,580 --> 00:30:29,940
workload. 
So it used to be years ago, you 

764
00:30:29,950 --> 00:30:32,170
wouldn't mind, wouldn't care, 
sitting down and being 

765
00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:34,570
responsive and be like, I 
actually know what it would be 

766
00:30:34,580 --> 00:30:38,020
really useful if the children, 
let's say history, right. 

767
00:30:38,090 --> 00:30:40,800
They didn't quite get this topic
last time. 

768
00:30:40,990 --> 00:30:43,300
So I'm going to use this lesson 
now instead of starting the new 

769
00:30:43,310 --> 00:30:44,800
topic. 
I'm going to go over it because 

770
00:30:44,850 --> 00:30:46,950
it goes from maybe Greeks to 
Romans or something. 

771
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,680
Like there's kind of a thread 
through there. 

772
00:30:48,690 --> 00:30:51,460
Yeah, it's, it's the next step 
in history in terms of maybe 

773
00:30:51,470 --> 00:30:54,080
going from through the Iron Age 
and the Bronze Age and the Stone

774
00:30:54,090 --> 00:30:56,180
Age and things like that. 
And they didn't quite get that. 

775
00:30:56,190 --> 00:30:58,220
So be really useful for me to 
actually just sit down, look at 

776
00:30:58,230 --> 00:31:01,840
the old time plan a bit of a 
recap lesson, put that in there,

777
00:31:01,850 --> 00:31:04,200
shift this around, and then we 
can do an extra lesson in the 

778
00:31:04,210 --> 00:31:06,210
morning because you know what, 
actually that English. 

779
00:31:06,220 --> 00:31:08,040
We can drop that off because 
we've done loads of that. 

780
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,550
Yeah, that is objectively much 
better teaching objectively, 

781
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,850
yeah. 
But it's much more workload. 

782
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,910
And at the moment, I I would 
absolutely err on the side of 

783
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,250
saying, well, OK, let's let's 
just do the lesson. 

784
00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:25,160
If the kids didn't quite get it,
I'll try and pick up the gaps 

785
00:31:25,170 --> 00:31:26,830
during the lesson. 
But it's easier for me just to 

786
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,760
start onto this new topic. 
And I think that's a big part of

787
00:31:30,770 --> 00:31:33,600
the culture of teaching now, 
which is shifting, is people are

788
00:31:33,610 --> 00:31:37,150
moving towards the easier option
only because they're already 

789
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,510
horrendously stressed, the 
cognitive load huge. 

790
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,200
That's it. 
Isn't it? 

791
00:31:40,210 --> 00:31:41,440
It's the cognitive load. 
They're already. 

792
00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:42,980
Working really hard. 
When I say the easy option, I 

793
00:31:42,990 --> 00:31:45,530
mean of that exact thing, yeah, 
they're already doing 10 million

794
00:31:45,540 --> 00:31:46,340
other things as well. 
When? 

795
00:31:46,350 --> 00:31:48,060
You're cognitive load is already
maxed out. 

796
00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:50,000
You're not. 
Gonna make history your priority

797
00:31:50,010 --> 00:31:53,790
to replan and do no when you've 
got so much stress and timetable

798
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,060
time on English and maths and 
things like with assessments. 

799
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:57,820
Coming up and all that, yeah, 
yeah, yeah, yeah. 

800
00:31:57,830 --> 00:32:02,090
It's tricky one. 
Same as PPA saw recently online 

801
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:05,340
took people talking about PPA, 
flexible PPA or not and someone 

802
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:07,010
was asking like do you do is 
inflexible? 

803
00:32:07,020 --> 00:32:10,890
Like you choose or well. 
As in like, so in our careers 

804
00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:13,500
we've always had static Cpas and
it's the same day every week. 

805
00:32:13,510 --> 00:32:14,960
At the same time, like Gary, I 
like I. 

806
00:32:14,970 --> 00:32:15,860
Like that? 
Yeah, me. 

807
00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:16,880
Too. 
Yeah, I like that. 

808
00:32:16,890 --> 00:32:19,870
But I recently learned just from
reading some stuff that some 

809
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,910
schools don't do that. 
So in some schools, in this one 

810
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:26,360
I was reading about in 
particular on at the end of a 

811
00:32:26,370 --> 00:32:28,960
week, they would get their PA 
timetable for the next week, so 

812
00:32:28,970 --> 00:32:30,260
P. 
A For anyone who doesn't know is

813
00:32:30,270 --> 00:32:32,460
time out, right, Yeah, so it's. 
Our planning, preparation and 

814
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:34,410
assessment time, so we just. 
Time out of class to do whatever

815
00:32:34,420 --> 00:32:36,050
we need to do to get ready. 
Yes, if you're a. 

816
00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:38,970
Teacher, you get you're entitled
to 10% a week of your teaching 

817
00:32:38,980 --> 00:32:40,630
time, which is normally like 
half a day. 

818
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,790
You might get like an afternoon 
or morning out of class to 

819
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,720
basically just sort out the rest
of your job. 

820
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:48,260
Go back and listen to our PM so 
to find out why that is not so 

821
00:32:48,270 --> 00:32:51,110
good. 
And yeah, this person was 

822
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,360
assassinated. 
I've never heard of it. 

823
00:32:52,370 --> 00:32:56,390
This person was talking about 
getting their PPA timetable on 

824
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,920
like the Friday or just at the 
end of the week before to be 

825
00:32:58,930 --> 00:33:01,130
like your PPA next week is going
to be on this day. 

826
00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:03,370
Wow. 
So they never know when their PA

827
00:33:03,380 --> 00:33:04,490
is gonna be, so they don't, do 
they? 

828
00:33:05,140 --> 00:33:06,550
OK. 
That's really interesting 

829
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,370
because a big thing about PPA is
that teachers aren't to prepare 

830
00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:13,460
or market anything for it. 
So if that's constantly being 

831
00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:16,400
changed, like for example, it's 
Tuesday morning, right, have 

832
00:33:16,410 --> 00:33:17,560
just planning. 
Yeah, thank you. 

833
00:33:17,570 --> 00:33:19,850
We'll use that. 
So yeah, I don't like the idea 

834
00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:22,090
of that because I think it 
brings so many more problems. 

835
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:24,730
And they were saying that in 
this thread that people talking 

836
00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:25,920
about other schools do it as 
well. 

837
00:33:26,050 --> 00:33:28,370
And people like, yeah, sometimes
we don't get it as well until 

838
00:33:28,380 --> 00:33:30,770
like on the week. 
So imagine finding out on Monday

839
00:33:30,780 --> 00:33:33,180
morning. 
Ohh, you got PPA now Monday 

840
00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:34,730
morning. 
I've just planned lessons for 

841
00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:35,460
this. 
Yeah, that's. 

842
00:33:35,470 --> 00:33:36,160
Awful. 
And I didn't. 

843
00:33:36,170 --> 00:33:37,770
Plan for Thursday. 
I thought maybe that was gonna 

844
00:33:37,780 --> 00:33:39,170
be my PA again. 
Do you plan your? 

845
00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:40,740
Yeah. 
Do you plan your PA time though 

846
00:33:40,750 --> 00:33:43,940
in terms of I know for example, 
in PA next week, right? 

847
00:33:43,950 --> 00:33:47,360
I'm going to be planning some 
English for week 4 of term. 

848
00:33:47,630 --> 00:33:48,660
I never. 
Planned it? 

849
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:49,690
No, no. 
But what? 

850
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:51,880
Sorry, what I mean is, do you 
plan your time? 

851
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:55,460
So my my time in PPA? 
I've got PPA. 

852
00:33:55,550 --> 00:33:57,340
I know that. 
OK, cool. 

853
00:33:57,670 --> 00:34:00,880
My PA is on a Tuesday. 
I know I've got to do something 

854
00:34:00,890 --> 00:34:03,660
for Friday morning. 
Now I might say getting my P I'm

855
00:34:03,670 --> 00:34:04,960
gonna get that Friday morning 
job done. 

856
00:34:05,010 --> 00:34:06,580
So I know I don't have to do 
outside of school. 

857
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:10,159
I I've chunked my PA on Tuesday 
now to say OK for the for the 

858
00:34:10,170 --> 00:34:12,710
first hour I'm going to get a 
couple of lessons planned for 

859
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,540
week 4. 
Sure. 

860
00:34:13,550 --> 00:34:17,270
So my point is if that's moved 
or taken away it might scupper 

861
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,940
your plans. 
Might my my swallowing. 

862
00:34:19,949 --> 00:34:23,080
Apparently it's scuppered my 
plans in terms of OK, I was 

863
00:34:23,090 --> 00:34:24,600
going to use that time to do 
this. 

864
00:34:24,730 --> 00:34:27,120
It makes me less. 
I'm already not very organised, 

865
00:34:27,250 --> 00:34:30,920
so the minimal thing I can have 
control over of I'm doing work 

866
00:34:30,929 --> 00:34:33,909
in school, my PPA. 
If that's been moved round, I 

867
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,790
feel like that would set me off.
You're right. 

868
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,630
Because actually I do for 
example we do Friday like 

869
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,370
arithmetic test on Friday sure. 
And I do often plan it for that 

870
00:34:41,380 --> 00:34:45,210
week in that week PA, PA And 
it's just one of the things I do

871
00:34:45,219 --> 00:34:46,530
every week. 
It's like I'm gonna plan this 

872
00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:49,590
week's arithmetic test because 
we always do it based on the 

873
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,280
most recent like understanding 
of their of what we write them 

874
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,889
we write them arithmetic test. 
So if your. 

875
00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:56,889
PPA were coming up PS on Friday 
afternoon. 

876
00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:59,460
You just got to do that now, 
Yeah, yeah, Yeah. 

877
00:34:59,470 --> 00:35:00,640
At some other point, yeah, it 
would be. 

878
00:35:00,650 --> 00:35:03,110
Really annoying, so I don't like
the idea of flexible PPA. 

879
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,460
Let us know if you to, because I
don't know, I don't actually 

880
00:35:05,470 --> 00:35:08,180
know anyone personally. 
Yeah, who is in that situation 

881
00:35:08,190 --> 00:35:11,870
where their PPA is decided upon 
flexibly each week like that 

882
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,580
sounds horrendous and when it's 
set. 

883
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:18,400
When it's set though, like I 
just when it's moved around, 

884
00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:21,240
rather, it feels like there's so
much more opportunity for it to 

885
00:35:21,250 --> 00:35:23,100
be dropped off. 
Whereas when it's set, it's 

886
00:35:23,110 --> 00:35:25,630
like, OK, everyone knows every 
Tuesday the sports coach is 

887
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,520
gonna be doing this and that. 
Didn't you do a? 

888
00:35:27,530 --> 00:35:29,460
Poll Yeah, I did a. 
Poll on Instagram and it was 

889
00:35:29,470 --> 00:35:33,970
basically what is your PPA 
consistent, So vast majority as 

890
00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:37,290
we expect, 75%, yes, consistent,
still not as high as I thought 

891
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:39,620
it would be. 
I thought it be much higher, 15%

892
00:35:39,630 --> 00:35:41,290
of people have it moved around. 
Wow. 

893
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:42,430
That's. 
Way less good. 

894
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,920
Yeah. 
So this is the thing that I 

895
00:35:44,930 --> 00:35:49,340
just, I never understand 10%. 
Yeah, clicked lucky if we get 

896
00:35:49,350 --> 00:35:51,230
it. 
And I don't get it because in 

897
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:55,960
the timetable, to me PPA is 
sacrosanct and very luckily it's

898
00:35:55,970 --> 00:35:58,340
sacrosanct to our management as 
well. 

899
00:35:58,350 --> 00:36:00,980
There is never a question, it's 
not even a thing. 

900
00:36:00,990 --> 00:36:04,020
Whereas I think I've worked in 
schools before where if you lose

901
00:36:04,030 --> 00:36:08,920
your PPA it's like, oh God, I'm 
like you're kind of like your 

902
00:36:08,930 --> 00:36:12,090
thumbs and you're like, could 
you please Sir, may I have some 

903
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,480
more all? 
Right. 

904
00:36:13,490 --> 00:36:16,430
We'll we'll take you out of that
really crucial lesson to give 

905
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,610
you some BA. 
Please, Sir. 

906
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,050
May I have my basic rights as as
a as a worker in your place. 

907
00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:23,670
Yes, of course you can like, so 
I know how it feels. 

908
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,270
Some people being like, yeah, 
give taking it away and then 

909
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,830
they feel awkward to ask. 
Yeah, well, that's. 

910
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,130
What toxic schools are all about
that if you work in a toxic 

911
00:36:30,140 --> 00:36:35,200
school, you know this feeling of
you feel bad for the things that

912
00:36:35,210 --> 00:36:37,390
you should just have. 
You're what you're owed. 

913
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:40,140
You feel bad for asking about 
it. 

914
00:36:40,180 --> 00:36:42,250
If you're in that kind of place,
get out. 

915
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,010
Get out. 
Honestly, it's not a good place.

916
00:36:44,020 --> 00:36:48,490
You should feel empowered, yeah,
to be given what you deserve. 

917
00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:49,710
I don't even. 
Feel that empowered. 

918
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,510
I just feel like it's just a 
thing. 

919
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,570
Like if if ever we missed, for 
example, we went back on a 

920
00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:57,110
Monday, which was bank holiday, 
sorry, we went back on a Tuesday

921
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,140
this year, you would have missed
your PPA. 

922
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,440
Wasn't even a thing. 
It's just like, OK, it's planned

923
00:37:01,450 --> 00:37:03,130
for this year. 
You're gonna get this release 

924
00:37:03,140 --> 00:37:04,880
time. 
So in that respect he has moved.

925
00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:06,310
But that's because you weren't 
gonna get it. 

926
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,440
Yeah, and now you've got it. 
And I've worked in schools 

927
00:37:08,450 --> 00:37:11,520
before where if there was a bank
holiday, so one person, Mr PA, 

928
00:37:11,530 --> 00:37:12,920
right. 
But one year group, let's say 

929
00:37:12,930 --> 00:37:13,940
Miss PA. 
Yeah. 

930
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,680
The answer would be no one gets 
P that week then Yes. 

931
00:37:16,690 --> 00:37:17,400
Yeah. 
What? 

932
00:37:17,470 --> 00:37:20,780
Excuse me. 
Yeah, Like I still need 10% of. 

933
00:37:20,850 --> 00:37:24,760
If you're gonna be picky, give 
me 10% of four days, then it's 

934
00:37:24,770 --> 00:37:26,540
half an hour less. 
OK, well, I'll still take it. 

935
00:37:26,830 --> 00:37:28,200
The answer. 
The answer is not. 

936
00:37:28,210 --> 00:37:30,600
No one gets it. 
The answer isn't just a scrap PA

937
00:37:30,610 --> 00:37:32,780
for the whole timetable. 
The answer is sorry, no. 

938
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:34,180
Give me my 10%. 
So. 

939
00:37:34,290 --> 00:37:36,040
Been there as well. 
I think that's quite common. 

940
00:37:36,350 --> 00:37:40,420
The response often back to that 
is we had Monday off and the 

941
00:37:40,430 --> 00:37:42,030
whole of Monday off doesn't 
matter because. 

942
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,170
That's not that's. 
Not my it's not working time 

943
00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:46,190
though it's not. 10% of my 
working time. 

944
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,350
It's as simple as that. 
So I worked four days that week.

945
00:37:49,390 --> 00:37:50,910
Cool. 
What's 10% of four days? 

946
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,610
Nought .4 of a day? 
Thank you. 

947
00:37:52,620 --> 00:37:53,630
Give it to me. 
I love that. 

948
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,570
Yeah, literally. 
Honestly, it's unbelievable. 

949
00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:58,470
There we go. 
So timetables could be flexible 

950
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,790
in terms of subjects. 
We agree that that's probably 

951
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,730
probably objectively better 
because you can respond to that 

952
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:07,380
need. 
But PPA, I think we agree that 

953
00:38:07,390 --> 00:38:09,670
that needs to be a set in stone 
time. 

954
00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:11,780
So do they are together? 
They don't. 

955
00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:13,560
Obviously they don't do it, I 
think. 

956
00:38:13,650 --> 00:38:18,150
Well, OK, they can do because 
other weekend settings though. 

957
00:38:18,990 --> 00:38:21,920
Yes, yeah, of course they. 
Are so we never move stuff to a 

958
00:38:21,930 --> 00:38:23,520
Saturday. 
We never moved off to a Sunday. 

959
00:38:23,530 --> 00:38:24,940
Yeah. 
So we just never moved stuff to 

960
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:26,270
P afternoon. 
Simple as that. 

961
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,670
Everything. 
Everything else to move around 

962
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,420
through. 
But that. 

963
00:38:28,430 --> 00:38:30,780
That's as sacrosanct to me as a 
Saturday or Sunday. 

964
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:32,660
But I guess. 
I guess it's more about what the

965
00:38:32,670 --> 00:38:34,240
kids do, I suppose. 
Yeah, the kids can just always 

966
00:38:34,250 --> 00:38:36,360
do the thing they do in PA. 
Yeah, that's the one thing 

967
00:38:36,370 --> 00:38:38,220
that's static. 
Yeah, so. 

968
00:38:38,490 --> 00:38:41,160
What sports coach, for example? 
Or have music? 

969
00:38:41,170 --> 00:38:43,100
Yeah, whatever. 
They do in PPA in your school. 

970
00:38:43,110 --> 00:38:45,320
They just always do that. 
That can never be changed. 

971
00:38:45,590 --> 00:38:47,930
Because then that helps the 
specialist teachers and we'll 

972
00:38:47,940 --> 00:38:49,470
come on to specialist teachers 
from. 

973
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,510
But it helped specialist 
teachers because they know. 

974
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,290
OK, Tuesday I've got your 4. 
I'm working through the sporting

975
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:56,110
curriculum of year four. 
Every Tuesday I'm gonna do 

976
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:56,850
basketball. 
Yeah. 

977
00:38:56,860 --> 00:38:58,270
The music specialist might know.
OK. 

978
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,270
I'm doing recorders for year 
five on on a Monday. 

979
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,510
Yeah. 
So every Monday. 

980
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,330
I know I've. 
I've got that consistency as 

981
00:39:04,340 --> 00:39:06,080
well. 
So is the timetable fit for 

982
00:39:06,090 --> 00:39:08,450
purpose? 
I think a lot of the time it is.

983
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:10,930
It's fit for the purpose of 
delivering as much of the 

984
00:39:10,940 --> 00:39:13,530
curriculum as possible. 
But it depends what your purpose

985
00:39:13,540 --> 00:39:14,720
is. 
I think that's the point I 

986
00:39:14,730 --> 00:39:16,530
wanted to make from this. 
And we're going to talk about 

987
00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:18,920
different types of children in 
the 2nd and disruptions and 

988
00:39:18,930 --> 00:39:21,360
things. 
The timetable itself in my 

989
00:39:21,370 --> 00:39:26,260
opinion can never be technically
fit for purpose because it can 

990
00:39:26,270 --> 00:39:27,960
never be fit enough to fit in 
everything. 

991
00:39:28,030 --> 00:39:32,700
Yeah, however it is fit for 
purpose in that it depends what 

992
00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:35,400
the purpose of your school is. 
If your school is concentrating 

993
00:39:35,410 --> 00:39:37,320
on ensuring their massive 
English drives up, you can do 

994
00:39:37,330 --> 00:39:39,480
massage every day. 
If your school is in a situation

995
00:39:39,490 --> 00:39:42,930
where actually you can afford to
move and drop in inverted 

996
00:39:42,940 --> 00:39:45,240
commas, again some English and 
do history which I still think 

997
00:39:45,250 --> 00:39:48,460
the English and to enrich your 
children even more objectively. 

998
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:50,280
Good. 
So what the purpose of your 

999
00:39:50,290 --> 00:39:51,910
school depends on your 
timetable. 

1000
00:39:51,980 --> 00:39:55,380
That's why if you walk into 10 
different schools you will see 

1001
00:39:55,390 --> 00:39:58,170
ten different timetables. 
There is there is no like set 

1002
00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:00,450
way that you walk into a school 
now. 

1003
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,130
If you're a parent for example 
and your children, your child's 

1004
00:40:03,140 --> 00:40:04,870
going into school or is already 
at school. 

1005
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,550
If you move to schools, they'd 
have to get used to a brand new 

1006
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,460
timetable. 
So it is the timetable fit for 

1007
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:12,360
purpose. 
That's down to your individual 

1008
00:40:12,370 --> 00:40:14,160
school. 
What's your school's purpose? 

1009
00:40:14,210 --> 00:40:16,120
It's never gonna be able to fit 
everything in that we're 

1010
00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:18,070
supposed to. 
But what do you want your 

1011
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,320
children to get out of it? 
What I think is important for us

1012
00:40:21,330 --> 00:40:24,620
to to realise because you're 
more, I think anti saying no 

1013
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:28,040
it's not and I'm more yes. 
I guess the point is what we're 

1014
00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:31,340
really disagreeing on is what is
the purpose of going to school? 

1015
00:40:31,450 --> 00:40:34,490
What should the purpose of the 
timetable be fulfilling? 

1016
00:40:34,570 --> 00:40:39,320
And I suppose if you're saying 
enrichment and being able to 

1017
00:40:39,390 --> 00:40:41,610
access the whole curriculum 
properly, it's obviously no, 

1018
00:40:41,660 --> 00:40:43,290
Yeah, yeah. 
It's never gonna work, Yeah, but

1019
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:44,580
if you. 
Accept that it's never going to 

1020
00:40:44,590 --> 00:40:48,860
work and be like, OK, well, I 
can at least have an impact on 

1021
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:51,340
my school's curriculum to meet 
the purpose that we've all 

1022
00:40:51,350 --> 00:40:54,180
agreed is important. 
Yeah, then schools do have that 

1023
00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:56,600
autonomy to teach however much 
time they want. 

1024
00:40:56,670 --> 00:40:58,800
There is nothing actually in the
curriculum, is there, that says 

1025
00:40:58,810 --> 00:40:59,990
you have to teach maths every 
day? 

1026
00:41:00,050 --> 00:41:00,780
No, not. 
At all. 

1027
00:41:00,790 --> 00:41:02,080
It's just. 
It's just that. 

1028
00:41:02,130 --> 00:41:04,190
It's just that. 
Maths curriculum is 80 pages 

1029
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,600
long and the geography 
curriculum is 2 pages long. 

1030
00:41:06,610 --> 00:41:07,860
So what do you think is gonna 
happen? 

1031
00:41:07,870 --> 00:41:09,880
And we're tested on maths and 
we're not tested on geography. 

1032
00:41:09,890 --> 00:41:12,120
Yeah, what do you think's gonna 
happen as a result of that? 

1033
00:41:12,180 --> 00:41:14,090
Regardless of. 
Best intentions Obviously people

1034
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:16,690
are gonna hone towards mass, so 
spanner in the works then? 

1035
00:41:17,310 --> 00:41:19,650
Just thinking again about this 
sort of timetable being flexible

1036
00:41:19,660 --> 00:41:22,790
or whatever, being a big, big 
push for a long long as I can 

1037
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,360
remember anyway in teaching. 
Maybe been around for a long 

1038
00:41:25,370 --> 00:41:29,170
time of having things like 
visual timetables in classrooms 

1039
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,910
for children with special 
educational needs. 

1040
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,210
Sen registered children routine 
can be really, really, really 

1041
00:41:37,220 --> 00:41:39,590
important for those children, 
hence the visual timetables. 

1042
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,610
Do you think it could have a 
negative impact of having a 

1043
00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:44,440
flexible timetable or do you 
think the visual timetable is 

1044
00:41:44,450 --> 00:41:46,400
enough to be like, no, they're 
fine, they've got that changes 

1045
00:41:46,410 --> 00:41:49,010
every day like where I see you? 
Mean. 

1046
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:52,270
I think so, yeah. 
So basically you're saying a lot

1047
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,690
of children like routines are 
being flexible is gonna disrupt?

1048
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:57,450
Yeah, and make them feel visual.
Timetables are useful. 

1049
00:41:57,460 --> 00:41:59,150
I do like them. 
I think they are useful. 

1050
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,710
And I think it's good not only 
for special educational needs 

1051
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:04,850
for anyone in the classroom to 
know we all have that child who 

1052
00:42:04,860 --> 00:42:06,230
walks in and says what we doing 
today. 

1053
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:09,410
Yeah, well it in this afternoon.
And sometimes they are just 

1054
00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:12,280
being nosy and sometimes it just
sets their mind at ease. 

1055
00:42:12,290 --> 00:42:15,210
Especially, for example, if you 
work in a school like us which 

1056
00:42:15,220 --> 00:42:17,100
blocks there afternoon learning 
into weeks. 

1057
00:42:17,530 --> 00:42:19,570
But the children don't ask me 
anymore what we doing this 

1058
00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:20,750
afternoon. 
They say what we doing this 

1059
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,360
week. 
Yeah. 

1060
00:42:21,370 --> 00:42:23,260
Said we're doing this week and 
I'll say we're doing geography. 

1061
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:26,110
We're gonna look at rivers or 
yeah, we're doing DT We're gonna

1062
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,040
look at mechanisms and hinges 
and things like that. 

1063
00:42:29,110 --> 00:42:32,040
And I love telling them that 
they get excited and they what 

1064
00:42:32,050 --> 00:42:34,080
they can go home and look at 
hinges or they can look up 

1065
00:42:34,090 --> 00:42:37,190
rivers and things like that. 
That that is enough for some 

1066
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,010
children, Yeah. 
But having it laid out on the 

1067
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:42,590
board visually, even if it helps
one child in your class, it's 

1068
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,890
clearly a good thing. 
Now, I know for a fact I'm not 

1069
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:47,110
very good at keeping on top of 
it because that's just me as a 

1070
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,110
teacher. 
Yeah, I need to, I need to stop 

1071
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,220
monitor basically because. 
But the monitor, a really good 

1072
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:55,050
thing to do would be to choose a
monitor who's a child who would 

1073
00:42:55,060 --> 00:42:57,450
use the visual timetable. 
That's nice because because 

1074
00:42:57,460 --> 00:43:00,210
then, you know they're they're 
naturally going to come up to 

1075
00:43:00,220 --> 00:43:03,330
you and what's going on today. 
And it's no longer an 

1076
00:43:03,340 --> 00:43:05,170
apprehension for them because 
they just want to know 

1077
00:43:05,180 --> 00:43:07,050
themselves. 
Oh, I want to know what's going 

1078
00:43:07,060 --> 00:43:08,640
on. 
Do I ask him, do I not? 

1079
00:43:08,750 --> 00:43:12,180
It's just they come up and ask 
me and it's in the masquerade 

1080
00:43:12,190 --> 00:43:14,100
off because you're doing the 
visual timetable on the board. 

1081
00:43:14,110 --> 00:43:15,170
Yeah. 
So there, what we're doing 

1082
00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:17,780
today, not only are they getting
the answer straight away, but 

1083
00:43:17,790 --> 00:43:20,880
they can pretend or not have the
pressure of it being for them. 

1084
00:43:20,890 --> 00:43:22,560
It's for the class goes on the 
board. 

1085
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,780
So it's certainly something this
year I need to get more on top 

1086
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:25,660
of. 
Yeah. 

1087
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:28,190
I've taught children in the 
past, not many, to be honest 

1088
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,840
with you, But I have taught 
children in the past who are 

1089
00:43:29,850 --> 00:43:33,310
really anxious about the 
timetable and they really need 

1090
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,180
to know what their day is going 
to be. 

1091
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:38,750
And I get it right and I do find
that, and it is slightly 

1092
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,520
flexible it they're still not 
really satisfied. 

1093
00:43:41,530 --> 00:43:43,670
They're still anxious all 
morning knowing that their day 

1094
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,020
is probably going to be 
different to what it was 

1095
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:47,800
yesterday. 
So the benefit, I think the 

1096
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,990
small benefit of having a really
static timetable where it's like

1097
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:54,120
every day it's just the same, 
it's just maths, English and 

1098
00:43:54,130 --> 00:43:57,140
then this thing as in on a 
Monday, it's always this rather 

1099
00:43:57,150 --> 00:43:59,050
than like it's another lesson, 
one that changed. 

1100
00:43:59,060 --> 00:44:00,090
It will be whatever. 
We do on a. 

1101
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:02,590
Monday we always do topic. 
Geography. 

1102
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,550
Yeah, or just topic yet? 
Hasn't even got a subject name. 

1103
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,630
A lot of schools don't have, 
like geography and history. 

1104
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,570
They just have topics that have 
those subjects weaved in them. 

1105
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,560
Yeah, I think so there's a 
massive benefit I think for 

1106
00:44:12,570 --> 00:44:15,150
those children when it comes to 
just they just know what a 

1107
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,490
Monday is. 
Cause Monday is the same every 

1108
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:18,520
single week. 
Yeah, but yeah visual timetable 

1109
00:44:18,530 --> 00:44:21,170
was really, really good way. 
Yeah, definitely, definitely 

1110
00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:22,800
recommend them. 
I found them a nuisance in the 

1111
00:44:22,810 --> 00:44:23,920
past. 
I'll be honest with you. 

1112
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,580
I have had plenty of times. 
I'm like do I have to do this 

1113
00:44:26,620 --> 00:44:28,460
And it might be just because 
I've had. 

1114
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:30,410
I just haven't had any children 
in the class who have benefited 

1115
00:44:30,420 --> 00:44:32,730
from it or that you. 
Know would benefit I know of. 

1116
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:33,970
Yeah, yeah. 
And retrospect. 

1117
00:44:33,980 --> 00:44:36,240
I think it was a bit naive of me
because I've definitely had 

1118
00:44:36,250 --> 00:44:37,690
glasses before. 
I'm like, I haven't really 

1119
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:40,060
bothered updating it and 
actually there could have been a

1120
00:44:40,070 --> 00:44:41,720
child in that in that room, even
one. 

1121
00:44:41,730 --> 00:44:43,380
Child, Then it's worth it. 
Especially if you make it 

1122
00:44:43,390 --> 00:44:45,320
autonomous. 
Yeah, all you need to do is say 

1123
00:44:45,330 --> 00:44:46,320
what's happening. 
I do now. 

1124
00:44:46,330 --> 00:44:48,440
Yeah, it's so easy. 
I just have, I just have a 

1125
00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:50,340
monitor who comes. 
I pick someone who's always in 

1126
00:44:50,350 --> 00:44:52,020
on time. 
Yeah, because they come in and 

1127
00:44:52,030 --> 00:44:55,090
they just update the thing every
day and it's just so much easier

1128
00:44:55,100 --> 00:44:56,640
because no one. 
There's no anxiety. 

1129
00:44:56,650 --> 00:44:59,020
So very easy thing to do. 
Big win and it links. 

1130
00:44:59,030 --> 00:45:02,240
To that classic thing you and I 
always have, which is there is a

1131
00:45:02,250 --> 00:45:05,190
difference between something 
that's objectively wrong and 

1132
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,360
I'll argue to the cows come home
about teacher pay and government

1133
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,250
and and funding and stuff like 
that. 

1134
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,610
But there is then just stuff 
which is just an opinion. 

1135
00:45:13,660 --> 00:45:15,890
Yeah. 
So like when when I I personally

1136
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:19,270
would would I would I make and 
print off a visual timetable? 

1137
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,910
No. 
But I actually think it's the 

1138
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,560
best thing to do That is that is
my incompetence coming out. 

1139
00:45:25,570 --> 00:45:28,130
You know, it's not, it's not me 
saying I I disagree with them. 

1140
00:45:28,180 --> 00:45:30,590
There are there's things I don't
do because I don't think they're

1141
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,350
useful. 
This is not one of them. 

1142
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,290
This is something I don't do 
because I just don't stay on top

1143
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:35,610
of it. 
Another thing to think about. 

1144
00:45:35,620 --> 00:45:37,730
I agree with it. 
Completely cool. 

1145
00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:39,510
Just bad at doing it, exactly, 
yeah. 

1146
00:45:39,790 --> 00:45:41,620
Yeah. 
Do I make my displays look 

1147
00:45:41,630 --> 00:45:43,240
beautiful every time? 
No. 

1148
00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:45,240
That's a conscious choice 
because I don't care. 

1149
00:45:45,250 --> 00:45:46,620
I don't think that's remotely 
useful. 

1150
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:48,320
This is. 
I still don't do it all the 

1151
00:45:48,330 --> 00:45:49,900
time. 
Yeah, that's something I need to

1152
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:51,180
work on, for sure. 
Should. 

1153
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:54,440
We talk about the big hole in 
every in everything that we've 

1154
00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:58,050
been discussing here, the 
massive burning, burning hole 

1155
00:45:58,060 --> 00:46:00,190
that ruined everything we've 
been talking about to do that. 

1156
00:46:00,710 --> 00:46:05,300
OK, so the problem, the big, big
problem is here. 

1157
00:46:05,310 --> 00:46:08,620
No matter what you do with your 
timetable, right, you're always 

1158
00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:13,970
going to feel stressed because 
children represent OK and that's

1159
00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:14,670
nothing to do. 
It's not. 

1160
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,140
I'm not complaining about them, 
but people are absent, People 

1161
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:21,960
are sick, People miss learning. 
So we put so much thought and 

1162
00:46:21,970 --> 00:46:25,380
effort into this crowned 
timetable where it's like we 

1163
00:46:25,390 --> 00:46:28,460
couldn't possibly drop a thing. 
Yeah, we can't do it because 

1164
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:30,260
everything is so important. 
And then the kids off for a 

1165
00:46:30,270 --> 00:46:32,700
week. 
Yeah, well. 

1166
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:34,160
No. 
Can we catch them up? 

1167
00:46:34,170 --> 00:46:36,300
No, because the timetable is 
crammed. 

1168
00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:37,200
We. 
Could we? 

1169
00:46:37,210 --> 00:46:38,270
Could. 
But then they miss something 

1170
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,120
else. 
Yeah, they missed. 

1171
00:46:39,130 --> 00:46:42,040
Something else, I think we. 
Can look at the macro here and 

1172
00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:45,640
just call it disruptions, right.
So absence is a huge disruption 

1173
00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:49,110
and I think, I do think there's 
a whole episode brewing on 

1174
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:54,290
absence because post COVID, the 
attitude to making sure children

1175
00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:58,570
are in in school. 
But not only absence lateness. 

1176
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,990
OK, it is. 
I can't describe as a teacher 

1177
00:47:03,450 --> 00:47:06,050
how valuable the time is. 
We've been listening this far. 

1178
00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:08,430
You understand how valuable our 
time is and how much we cram in 

1179
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,250
and how every minute is actually
put in place because we have to 

1180
00:47:13,310 --> 00:47:15,330
work towards something. 
That's how it is. 

1181
00:47:15,340 --> 00:47:19,780
OK, so if every day the child is
coming in at 9:30, yeah, 9:45, 

1182
00:47:19,790 --> 00:47:21,640
ten. 
The problem with a static 

1183
00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:24,720
timetable and that point is that
means one thing. 

1184
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:28,300
They're always missing half of 
the same lesson. 

1185
00:47:28,570 --> 00:47:31,140
It's not being spread out. 
It's not like, OK, listen, 

1186
00:47:31,150 --> 00:47:33,500
you're late for whatever reason,
not here to judge people, not 

1187
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:36,480
here to put anything on the 
children, especially whatever. 

1188
00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:38,650
Children are going to be late 
sometimes, if they're 

1189
00:47:38,660 --> 00:47:40,830
consistently late, there's an 
underlying problem. 

1190
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:41,890
We need to get to the bottom of 
that. 

1191
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:44,340
Let's try and fix it. 
No judgement at all again, but 

1192
00:47:44,350 --> 00:47:47,000
it's something we need to try 
and sort out because we have a 

1193
00:47:47,010 --> 00:47:50,140
static timetable and at the time
you're going to miss half of the

1194
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:52,280
same lesson. 
If you're missing half of the 

1195
00:47:52,290 --> 00:47:55,860
same lesson 3 * a week, that is 
going to massively detriment 

1196
00:47:55,870 --> 00:47:59,070
your progress in that subject 
and there is literally nothing 

1197
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,840
we can do as a school or as 
teachers to mitigate that. 

1198
00:48:01,890 --> 00:48:04,580
The only thing we can do to 
mitigate that would be to take 

1199
00:48:04,590 --> 00:48:07,920
that child out of a different 
subject and try and shift it 

1200
00:48:07,930 --> 00:48:10,560
somehow, but then that's 
detrimental. 2 subjects. 

1201
00:48:10,570 --> 00:48:12,000
It's never the same nightmare, 
isn't? 

1202
00:48:12,010 --> 00:48:13,750
It happens a lot. 
Like, you know, if you're if 

1203
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,100
you're not in the teaching 
world, you'd be surprised at how

1204
00:48:16,110 --> 00:48:19,250
much this sort of thing happens.
I've had possible classes in the

1205
00:48:19,260 --> 00:48:22,690
past where I'd have like one or 
two children who just every 

1206
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:24,980
single day just turn up between 
anywhere between genuinely 

1207
00:48:24,990 --> 00:48:27,680
between 9:00 and 11:00. 
Yeah, somewhere in that. 

1208
00:48:27,690 --> 00:48:28,910
In that time. 
And you just think. 

1209
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,390
And I never ever once, like you 
said, make it really clear, 

1210
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,930
never get cross with these 
children. 

1211
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:35,690
No, you can't get. 
Frustrated, but because I'm 

1212
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:37,110
frustrated, I'm like, I want you
to. 

1213
00:48:37,580 --> 00:48:40,570
Try not to even show them that 
because if like if a nine year 

1214
00:48:40,580 --> 00:48:43,850
old is turning up to school an 
hour late, I guarantee you it's 

1215
00:48:43,860 --> 00:48:46,250
not the nine year old fault. 
It might be on the odd occasion 

1216
00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:48,210
they've had a Strop in the 
morning and their parent comes 

1217
00:48:48,220 --> 00:48:49,880
in. 
But you know it cause parents 

1218
00:48:49,890 --> 00:48:51,940
come in, they go, I'm really 
sorry, but they just, God could 

1219
00:48:51,950 --> 00:48:53,840
not get out of the door this 
morning being a pickle. 

1220
00:48:54,030 --> 00:48:57,030
But when it happens three times 
a week consistently for months 

1221
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,010
or years, it's like, OK, don't 
ever get annoyed at that child 

1222
00:49:00,020 --> 00:49:02,580
because he's absolutely not 
their fault. 

1223
00:49:02,690 --> 00:49:05,500
It's not their responsibility to
get to school at nine years old 

1224
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:07,120
on time. 
So it's a really hard thing to 

1225
00:49:07,130 --> 00:49:08,150
do. 
You do you get frustrated 

1226
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,860
though, because you're thinking 
they've come in half of my 

1227
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:12,620
lesson again. 
They've missed the entire input 

1228
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:14,440
again. 
I've now got to give them the 

1229
00:49:14,450 --> 00:49:17,110
input while everyone else now 
has to just wait and do 

1230
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,000
something else because I was 
going to do something with them.

1231
00:49:19,090 --> 00:49:21,560
It's really frustrating. 
And that's just absence. 

1232
00:49:21,570 --> 00:49:23,130
And that's just like morning 
absence. 

1233
00:49:23,140 --> 00:49:26,100
Then you get things like this 
doesn't know me a little bit and

1234
00:49:26,110 --> 00:49:28,920
I know I shouldn't get annoyed 
because teachers holidays, 

1235
00:49:28,930 --> 00:49:33,520
midterm like part half of me is 
like, do you know what life is? 

1236
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:35,000
Life is too short. 
I agree. 

1237
00:49:35,010 --> 00:49:37,790
By the way, go and. 
Enjoy it, but for me right now 

1238
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,230
as a teacher it is really 
annoying. 

1239
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:42,060
Though they have now just missed
the whole week and and I and I 

1240
00:49:42,070 --> 00:49:43,500
don't have time to catch them 
up. 

1241
00:49:43,770 --> 00:49:45,550
I'm expecting to catch them up. 
There's difference. 

1242
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,780
As a professional and as a 
human. 

1243
00:49:47,070 --> 00:49:50,600
As a human honestly and I don't 
know should be saying this is a 

1244
00:49:50,610 --> 00:49:53,280
teacher but I I don't care. 
Do you know if they go away 

1245
00:49:53,290 --> 00:49:55,590
somewhere of their family. 
Yeah and it's that like once in 

1246
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,010
a lifetime opportunity and they 
and they go in enrich themselves

1247
00:49:58,020 --> 00:50:01,700
somewhere else right. 
I'm I'm just like have great fun

1248
00:50:01,710 --> 00:50:05,660
and their and their parents save
2 grand by doing it then have a 

1249
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:06,160
good. 
Time. 

1250
00:50:06,170 --> 00:50:07,940
Have a good time. 
I loved it and I always make the

1251
00:50:07,950 --> 00:50:09,540
kids when they come back. 
I'd never ever. 

1252
00:50:09,550 --> 00:50:12,330
I make the point of not being 
like holiday in term time. 

1253
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:13,690
I always go, you have a nice 
time. 

1254
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:15,810
That's really good, right? 
We've been doing this work hard.

1255
00:50:15,820 --> 00:50:17,170
Let's crack on. 
We're not going to go back 

1256
00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:20,200
through this stuff, but you'll 
pick it up as we go objectively.

1257
00:50:20,410 --> 00:50:25,180
Objectively, clearly missing a 
week of school isn't is is going

1258
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:27,240
to impact their progress on 
certain things. 

1259
00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:28,700
It's going to be harder for us 
to catch them. 

1260
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:30,760
It's gonna be extra work for us 
to catch them up, you know? 

1261
00:50:30,770 --> 00:50:32,740
It is just an extra load on our 
minds. 

1262
00:50:32,750 --> 00:50:34,620
Can I vent? 
For one thing that I've had one 

1263
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:36,830
time in the past, right? 
There's one experience. 

1264
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,260
This is the only time I've ever 
got annoyed at an actual midterm

1265
00:50:40,270 --> 00:50:45,180
holiday, because when they met 
When holiday For two weeks. 

1266
00:50:45,450 --> 00:50:46,880
In the middle. 
Of term I would. 

1267
00:50:46,890 --> 00:50:49,440
Argue two weeks, by the way, is 
much different to one week, 

1268
00:50:49,450 --> 00:50:50,180
yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1269
00:50:50,190 --> 00:50:52,230
Two weeks big. 
That's like, that's like double 

1270
00:50:52,290 --> 00:50:54,730
it's it's almost that's like 
triple wow. 

1271
00:50:55,050 --> 00:50:57,340
And when they came back and 
didn't have a problem with it, I

1272
00:50:57,350 --> 00:51:00,470
was just a bit like, it's a bit 
annoying for me, but fine, 

1273
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,980
whatever. 
You've been on holiday. 

1274
00:51:02,330 --> 00:51:07,880
It wasn't until I got a formal 
complaint written in because I 

1275
00:51:08,070 --> 00:51:10,750
hadn't. 
We did some fun stuff in that 

1276
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,250
two weeks and I hadn't, like, 
planned ahead to reserve some of

1277
00:51:15,260 --> 00:51:18,180
the fun thing for this 
particular child like that in 

1278
00:51:18,190 --> 00:51:20,730
like, retrospect, right. 
I don't want to go too much. 

1279
00:51:20,910 --> 00:51:23,480
Rocket, you mean? 
So you did something really fun.

1280
00:51:23,490 --> 00:51:26,640
I did something nice whilst 
they're whilst there cables off.

1281
00:51:26,730 --> 00:51:29,080
Yeah, and. 
Then, yeah, the parents had 

1282
00:51:29,090 --> 00:51:32,820
expected me for when they got 
back to have reserved this 

1283
00:51:32,830 --> 00:51:34,370
thing. 
So they got to retrospectively 

1284
00:51:34,380 --> 00:51:39,190
do the fun thing as well, right.
I I honestly, I had to like, I 

1285
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,360
had to remove without, you know.
Yeah. 

1286
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:43,520
And I'm just horrible. 
Yeah. 

1287
00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:45,280
Yeah. 
So I was like, I can't speak to 

1288
00:51:45,290 --> 00:51:47,320
this person because I would just
be like, what are you talking 

1289
00:51:47,330 --> 00:51:49,530
about? 
You took, you chose to take your

1290
00:51:49,540 --> 00:51:52,420
child out of time and out of 
school in term time. 

1291
00:51:52,430 --> 00:51:53,840
You missed the stuff in term 
time. 

1292
00:51:53,850 --> 00:51:55,520
I'm not. 
That's not my problem. 

1293
00:51:55,530 --> 00:51:57,190
So. 
I'm gonna, I'm gonna save you 

1294
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,390
here from sound of the grumpy 
old man, because if the child 

1295
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,000
was sick, what would your 
response be? 

1296
00:52:02,550 --> 00:52:04,030
Then they were off. 
They're tough. 

1297
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,100
They missed it. 
I don't know. 

1298
00:52:05,110 --> 00:52:06,420
I just think but would. 
It be. 

1299
00:52:06,430 --> 00:52:08,700
Would it be as angry? 
No, not as angry. 

1300
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:10,810
That's why I guess not as angry 
if they've gone on the way in a 

1301
00:52:10,820 --> 00:52:12,930
lovely all expenses paid 2 week 
holiday somewhere. 

1302
00:52:12,940 --> 00:52:14,510
Yeah. 
And they didn't get an ice lolly

1303
00:52:14,620 --> 00:52:16,060
in the afternoon. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1304
00:52:16,070 --> 00:52:16,990
Yeah, OK. 
Yeah. 

1305
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,540
No, I think that's justifiable, 
though. 

1306
00:52:18,550 --> 00:52:20,120
They were just sick. 
I'd feel bad for them. 

1307
00:52:20,130 --> 00:52:21,270
Yeah, that's what I mean. 
Appalling. 

1308
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,320
And they didn't want to lose it.
That's my point. 

1309
00:52:23,330 --> 00:52:25,210
You wouldn't be angry, but like 
ohh, that is good. 

1310
00:52:25,220 --> 00:52:27,250
You you've got no control over 
the fact you were ill. 

1311
00:52:27,260 --> 00:52:29,390
You didn't go on the holiday. 
So you know what? 

1312
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,180
Maybe I'll try and get this 
thing in place for you. 

1313
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:33,970
I'll try and do this instead. 
You wouldn't necessarily still 

1314
00:52:34,030 --> 00:52:36,050
you because you wouldn't know 
the real you wouldn't move a 

1315
00:52:36,060 --> 00:52:38,790
whole day to another thing. 
That's when they're ill. 

1316
00:52:38,860 --> 00:52:40,660
You'd feel bad for me. 
Like, I'm sorry, mate, Let's try

1317
00:52:40,670 --> 00:52:42,850
this instead. 
Yeah, depending on holiday, You 

1318
00:52:42,860 --> 00:52:45,260
know, for a formal complaint. 
Guys I know. 

1319
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:49,320
You're so annoyed at that, Max. 
So I guess the one other thing I

1320
00:52:49,330 --> 00:52:51,310
want to talk about, and I hope 
lots of teachers feel on the 

1321
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,480
same boat and I understand the 
importance of this. 

1322
00:52:53,490 --> 00:52:55,790
And this has happened in every 
school I've worked at. 

1323
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,580
This has happened in every 
school of people I've talked to 

1324
00:52:58,750 --> 00:53:02,080
is, and it's linked to the 
timetable. 

1325
00:53:02,150 --> 00:53:05,080
Maybe not being fit for purpose 
is that even though we're doing 

1326
00:53:05,090 --> 00:53:08,300
English and Maths everyday, 
there are going to be children 

1327
00:53:08,310 --> 00:53:11,650
who are on the cusp of 
something, a grade that they 

1328
00:53:11,660 --> 00:53:14,780
need to try and push to, for our
for data to look good or for 

1329
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:17,770
their progress from Key Stage 1 
to be where it should be based 

1330
00:53:17,780 --> 00:53:19,820
on, again, the government's 
overlooking eye and the league 

1331
00:53:19,830 --> 00:53:23,340
tables and things like that. 
That I I reckon every school in 

1332
00:53:23,350 --> 00:53:26,080
the country has interventions 
which are extra groups for 

1333
00:53:26,090 --> 00:53:28,820
children running outside of 
English and maths time, 

1334
00:53:28,830 --> 00:53:31,720
obviously because they need 
English and maths that go creep 

1335
00:53:31,730 --> 00:53:35,660
into afternoon lessons now cards
on the table. 

1336
00:53:35,810 --> 00:53:39,600
I would much rather every child 
simply receive the whole 

1337
00:53:39,610 --> 00:53:42,400
afternoon lesson. 
I'd much rather whoever, whoever

1338
00:53:42,410 --> 00:53:46,420
they are, the work that's gone 
into differentiating a task or 

1339
00:53:46,490 --> 00:53:48,800
changing something so that it's 
suitable for everyone in your 

1340
00:53:48,810 --> 00:53:52,960
class, for them in the afternoon
then to be taken out for half an

1341
00:53:52,970 --> 00:53:55,320
hour to do a group. 
Yeah, it doesn't sit right with 

1342
00:53:55,330 --> 00:53:58,270
me that they should lose history
time or geography time or 

1343
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,470
science time because they didn't
quite cover something in the 

1344
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,400
every single day coverage of 
English and maths. 

1345
00:54:03,410 --> 00:54:05,650
Yeah, where do you sit with 
that? 

1346
00:54:05,660 --> 00:54:07,670
Because again, that's to do with
the timetable. 

1347
00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:10,900
It's is it fit for purpose. 
They're not going to reach the 

1348
00:54:10,910 --> 00:54:13,440
level that the government have 
decided should they miss out on 

1349
00:54:13,450 --> 00:54:16,610
their history and I have spent. 
Nine years, very passionately 

1350
00:54:16,660 --> 00:54:19,490
trying against interventions 
genuinely. 

1351
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:21,550
I really, really, really don't 
like them. 

1352
00:54:21,860 --> 00:54:22,800
I don't like them. 
Ever. 

1353
00:54:22,810 --> 00:54:24,920
Full stop. 
I just don't like them. 

1354
00:54:25,070 --> 00:54:27,770
You know if your school has some
magic time where you can run 

1355
00:54:27,780 --> 00:54:29,070
them. 
So what about? 

1356
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,420
What about? 
You know, for example, I don't 

1357
00:54:32,430 --> 00:54:35,340
know if assemblies happening. 
Yeah, so. 

1358
00:54:35,350 --> 00:54:38,020
That's to me is like the only 
one where it's like, OK, you can

1359
00:54:38,030 --> 00:54:40,740
justify it a bit, eat. 
That's still missing something 

1360
00:54:40,750 --> 00:54:42,740
that everyone else is getting. 
At the end of the day, we just 

1361
00:54:42,750 --> 00:54:45,460
don't value assembly generally 
in schools as much as like a 

1362
00:54:45,470 --> 00:54:47,630
lesson. 
So that one I'm like, OK, if 

1363
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,710
you're going to do an 
intervention, limit it to 

1364
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:52,150
assembly. 
So how do kids? 

1365
00:54:52,220 --> 00:54:54,550
What's up? 
Through quality teaching. 

1366
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,540
Just think, honestly, it has to 
be free teaching. 

1367
00:54:57,130 --> 00:54:58,910
English every single day. 
Yeah, we're. 

1368
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,590
Doing, Yeah. 
So I mean we're doing massage 

1369
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,800
every day, every year. 
Curriculum basically recaps the 

1370
00:55:04,810 --> 00:55:07,170
last year's curriculum and adds 
a bit more to it. 

1371
00:55:07,790 --> 00:55:10,350
There's just got to be a point 
where we say, well they are 

1372
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,320
doing 5 hours of that week or 
six or seven hours of that week,

1373
00:55:13,570 --> 00:55:15,880
15 minutes intervention, it's 
just. 

1374
00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:17,780
They do not do that. 
Last bit they're doing. 

1375
00:55:17,790 --> 00:55:21,010
Six hours of history a term? 
Yeah, they're doing 7 hours of 

1376
00:55:21,020 --> 00:55:23,030
mass a week. 
Should we do some merchant 

1377
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,680
master in history? 
No, I've. 

1378
00:55:24,690 --> 00:55:26,100
Always hated it. 
So I've always been very again, 

1379
00:55:26,110 --> 00:55:29,160
I've always been very very vocal
as well to help if if RSL will 

1380
00:55:29,170 --> 00:55:30,440
listening for like yeah here we 
go. 

1381
00:55:30,850 --> 00:55:33,610
So can I do I'll say it all the 
time like let's stop do let's 

1382
00:55:33,620 --> 00:55:35,860
stop doing this. 
And I'm usually speaking about 

1383
00:55:35,870 --> 00:55:37,130
afternoons. 
In fact I'm always speaking 

1384
00:55:37,140 --> 00:55:39,340
about the same I hate kids 
missing. 

1385
00:55:39,350 --> 00:55:42,380
I also from a selfish 
perspective and nothing annoys 

1386
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:44,990
me more than an adult coming 
into my room when I'm halfway 

1387
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,200
through an input and I've just 
got them all hooked on some 

1388
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:48,950
topic they might not have been 
that interested in. 

1389
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,860
But I've managed to get them 
hooked on it and say, well, can 

1390
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:53,520
I have so and so, so and so, so 
and so and so and so. 

1391
00:55:53,710 --> 00:55:55,710
And it's the four children. 
You know who it is? 

1392
00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:57,420
Yeah. 
It's the four children who need 

1393
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:59,420
to be in that room the most. 
Hence the reason they're in an 

1394
00:55:59,430 --> 00:56:00,820
intervention to catch up on 
something. 

1395
00:56:00,890 --> 00:56:03,230
They find learning harder. 
Yeah, please do take them out of

1396
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:05,580
the end of my input and the 
start of the task so that when 

1397
00:56:05,590 --> 00:56:07,200
they come back in, they have no 
idea what they're doing. 

1398
00:56:07,210 --> 00:56:09,220
They're behind. 
Yeah, got it. 

1399
00:56:09,230 --> 00:56:10,700
Annoys me so much. 
It's. 

1400
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:12,560
Frustrating. 
It is frustrating and it's the 

1401
00:56:12,570 --> 00:56:14,350
same frustration as when a 
child's late. 

1402
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,590
We just, it can't be accepted. 
If someone sits there and goes, 

1403
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,400
yeah, it's it's quite 
frustrating when the child comes

1404
00:56:19,410 --> 00:56:21,400
in late or misses, you know, 
half an hour or less, isn't it? 

1405
00:56:21,450 --> 00:56:23,580
Yeah, it can't. 
Then we can't then pretend it's 

1406
00:56:23,590 --> 00:56:25,620
not frustrating when a child, 
she's half an hour of your 

1407
00:56:25,630 --> 00:56:27,900
lesson for a different reason. 
It's still frustrating for the 

1408
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:30,580
same reason, yeah, only this 
time we have complete control 

1409
00:56:30,590 --> 00:56:31,420
over it. 
Would you take? 

1410
00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:33,300
A kid out of a maths lesson to 
an English intervention? 

1411
00:56:33,310 --> 00:56:35,220
Of course you would. 
Push wouldn't. 

1412
00:56:35,230 --> 00:56:38,550
So, so another, you know, side 
to this coin is OK, we're just 

1413
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,600
teaching the kids that these 
subjects are just not important.

1414
00:56:40,610 --> 00:56:41,850
Yeah, history. 
Not important. 

1415
00:56:41,860 --> 00:56:43,500
Go out and do some maths. 
Yeah, so. 

1416
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,830
You know, in the past I've ran 
intervention groups. 

1417
00:56:45,980 --> 00:56:47,550
It's my job. 
I've been asked to run 

1418
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,690
intervention groups. 
Therefore I've made them really 

1419
00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:51,820
useful. 
They have been maths, sometimes 

1420
00:56:51,830 --> 00:56:52,960
been English as well, then 
English. 

1421
00:56:52,970 --> 00:56:55,730
Writing interventions have done 
reading interventions, but 

1422
00:56:55,740 --> 00:56:57,150
mostly I've done maths 
interventions. 

1423
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,680
Geography, never done geography 
intervention, never done History

1424
00:56:59,690 --> 00:57:02,110
intervention, never happened. 
I'm going to take a child out of

1425
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,610
masks. 
Didn't know who Julius Caesar 

1426
00:57:03,620 --> 00:57:04,250
was. 
Yeah. 

1427
00:57:04,260 --> 00:57:06,100
You know, I mean, however, I 
will take a child out of 

1428
00:57:06,110 --> 00:57:08,920
geography because they didn't 
know how to bridge 10 past 98. 

1429
00:57:08,990 --> 00:57:10,510
Yeah, you know. 
And you might listen to this and

1430
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,180
agree, you might be like ohh 
yeah, maths, English are 

1431
00:57:12,190 --> 00:57:12,860
important. 
Yeah. 

1432
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:15,380
And and you know what, I kind of
agree to that as well. 

1433
00:57:15,390 --> 00:57:17,620
But I don't. 
I just hate the whole double 

1434
00:57:17,630 --> 00:57:20,970
mindset of we all unanimously 
agree that Mason things are the 

1435
00:57:20,980 --> 00:57:22,510
most important. 
They are just really important. 

1436
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,080
But that's already. 
Built into the timetable 

1437
00:57:24,090 --> 00:57:26,200
already. 
But also you have to tell the 

1438
00:57:26,210 --> 00:57:27,980
children and make it really 
clear that every subject is 

1439
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:30,310
equally valuable. 
And it's like, well, what we 

1440
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,750
going what do you want? 
Do you want me to tell the do 

1441
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,120
you want me to pretend that the 
children, that these other 

1442
00:57:35,130 --> 00:57:37,300
subjects are just as important, 
like that so much work into 

1443
00:57:37,310 --> 00:57:38,960
them, are all becoming 
specialists in geography and 

1444
00:57:38,970 --> 00:57:43,010
history but also not we all 
secretly behind the scenes. 

1445
00:57:43,020 --> 00:57:44,950
But yeah, they're not that are 
they We'll take them out all the

1446
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,000
time and do these other things 
or I don't want. 

1447
00:57:47,010 --> 00:57:48,740
What are we trying to get across
to the kids. 

1448
00:57:48,750 --> 00:57:49,960
I don't understand. 
I. 

1449
00:57:49,970 --> 00:57:53,420
Think again. 
This is like a personal thing, 

1450
00:57:53,530 --> 00:57:54,920
isn't it? 
This is one of those personal 

1451
00:57:54,930 --> 00:57:56,640
things where this is our 
personal opinion. 

1452
00:57:57,290 --> 00:57:59,020
We're teachers. 
We still do intervention groups,

1453
00:57:59,030 --> 00:58:01,200
is the point I'm trying to make.
Is still gonna do? 

1454
00:58:01,410 --> 00:58:03,200
Yeah, of course we are. 
We're still gonna make them 

1455
00:58:03,210 --> 00:58:04,310
useful. 
We're still gonna make sure 

1456
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,370
children in those groups make 
more progress like that. 

1457
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:07,630
Of course that's going to 
happen. 

1458
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,730
But it's just at what cost? 
And the cost is that they're, 

1459
00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:13,590
you know, I've done an 
intervention group before where 

1460
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,900
it's one of the groups has had 
to been during their PS during 

1461
00:58:16,910 --> 00:58:18,810
their PE slot. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1462
00:58:18,820 --> 00:58:22,170
And it's like, cool. 
I think that's nearly more 

1463
00:58:22,180 --> 00:58:24,150
important than anything. 
Yeah, they're staying active and

1464
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,190
fit. 
So I might actually be taking 

1465
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,470
them out the only physical 
activity they'll do all week, 

1466
00:58:30,020 --> 00:58:31,320
but that sounds horrendous to 
me, right? 

1467
00:58:31,330 --> 00:58:33,600
That that's obviously I'm like 
that's awful. 

1468
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:36,560
And I also, you've got to feel 
that way for history. 

1469
00:58:36,730 --> 00:58:39,720
They only get to do history for 
like you know, a certain amount 

1470
00:58:39,730 --> 00:58:41,520
of time all year. 
Yeah. 

1471
00:58:41,530 --> 00:58:43,000
It's much less than maths and 
English. 

1472
00:58:43,010 --> 00:58:45,000
Yeah. 
So you know the the impact is 

1473
00:58:45,010 --> 00:58:47,340
greater on the subject they're 
missing than the impact is on 

1474
00:58:47,350 --> 00:58:49,360
the subject they're getting. 
So they're going to have more of

1475
00:58:49,370 --> 00:58:52,020
a detrimental impact on what 
they've missed in history than 

1476
00:58:52,070 --> 00:58:53,560
the positive impact will be for 
mass. 

1477
00:58:53,570 --> 00:58:56,000
Because guess what, they've got 
master tomorrow and tomorrow and

1478
00:58:56,010 --> 00:58:57,540
tomorrow and tomorrow and 
tomorrow. 

1479
00:58:57,590 --> 00:59:00,960
So it doesn't add up to me and I
think, I think we're both quite 

1480
00:59:00,970 --> 00:59:03,590
passionate about. 
I'd love it for it to be a thing

1481
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,630
of the past and he's quality 
first teaching. 

1482
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,490
It's like how your children 
gonna make progress. 

1483
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,330
Really good teaching in the 
morning. 

1484
00:59:10,340 --> 00:59:11,800
Yeah, one. 
Big thing I kind of want to do a

1485
00:59:11,810 --> 00:59:14,950
poll on this maybe the episode 
poll very specific though. 

1486
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,230
So it's it's to people that 
taught you 6 and it's about Sats

1487
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:23,170
boosters because I think that's 
a great poll narrow down like I 

1488
00:59:23,180 --> 00:59:25,110
actually just wanna know because
I don't want to I was going to 

1489
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,880
start talking about this is 
every school does it. 

1490
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:28,020
Yeah but I don't know if they 
do. 

1491
00:59:28,030 --> 00:59:31,050
I just know that schools high 
school circle by teachers. 

1492
00:59:31,060 --> 00:59:33,700
Every school has done it Yeah so
quite a common thing. 

1493
00:59:33,710 --> 00:59:35,940
I hate this by the way I am so 
anti this. 

1494
00:59:35,950 --> 00:59:38,780
I really really really hate it. 
A very common thing to do in 

1495
00:59:38,790 --> 00:59:41,580
year six is before the SATS 
exams, that big test that the 

1496
00:59:41,590 --> 00:59:45,570
school is judged on and and the 
kids, you know, whatever is SATS

1497
00:59:45,580 --> 00:59:47,430
booster. 
So it'll be like the weeks or 

1498
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,160
even the terms. 
In some schools I do it for like

1499
00:59:49,170 --> 00:59:51,690
2-3 terms leading up to it. 
There will be extra 

1500
00:59:51,700 --> 00:59:54,250
interventions in place just to 
like really get kids ready for 

1501
00:59:54,260 --> 00:59:56,330
their Sats exams. 
And again, they'll typically 

1502
00:59:56,340 --> 00:59:58,020
take place in the afternoon 
because when else are you going 

1503
00:59:58,030 --> 00:59:59,800
to do it? 
I really don't like it for the 

1504
00:59:59,810 --> 01:00:00,910
same reasons. 
Intervention. 

1505
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,790
It's like interventions on 
steroids. 

1506
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,330
It's just all the time. 
But I want to know before I 

1507
01:00:05,340 --> 01:00:07,810
before I ramble on about it. 
Does your school do it? 

1508
01:00:07,860 --> 01:00:09,830
You don't have to be a year six 
teacher I guess, to know this 

1509
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,610
but if you work in a school do 
you do SATS boosters? 

1510
01:00:12,620 --> 01:00:14,910
And if you want to tell us your 
opinion on it, I'd love to hear 

1511
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,500
it. 
Before I start rambling on it 

1512
01:00:16,570 --> 01:00:18,740
about it, maybe in another 
episode on Sats or something. 

1513
01:00:18,750 --> 01:00:20,010
You. 
Know the ultimate version of 

1514
01:00:20,020 --> 01:00:22,740
that, by the way, is some 
children get invited back in 

1515
01:00:22,750 --> 01:00:24,420
during half term? 
Ohh yeah. 

1516
01:00:24,430 --> 01:00:25,500
Yeah, to into. 
School to do. 

1517
01:00:25,510 --> 01:00:28,420
But yeah, it's just like, OK, 
who is that for at least? 

1518
01:00:28,430 --> 01:00:30,400
It's not in geography time, 
yeah. 

1519
01:00:30,410 --> 01:00:31,300
It's true. 
It's just. 

1520
01:00:31,310 --> 01:00:33,140
In their free time, where they 
have to relax and let their 

1521
01:00:33,150 --> 01:00:35,580
brain settle so they can learn 
more, we'll take that way, I 

1522
01:00:35,590 --> 01:00:36,780
suppose. 
The last thing then about 

1523
01:00:36,790 --> 01:00:39,810
timetables is the last thing I 
wanted to come on because it's a

1524
01:00:39,820 --> 01:00:41,810
big again, it's a big hot topic 
at the minute and they seem to 

1525
01:00:41,820 --> 01:00:44,500
be a dying breed specialist 
teachers. 

1526
01:00:45,260 --> 01:00:50,450
So in terms of the timetable we 
talked about is the timetable 

1527
01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:52,470
fit for purpose? 
Well do you know what? 

1528
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:57,750
As a human being who did a PGCE 
year and two placements and that

1529
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:02,270
was my training, it would be 
absolutely ridiculous for anyone

1530
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,170
to assume that I am the best 
possible geography teacher. 

1531
01:01:06,220 --> 01:01:08,370
I'm the best possible music. 
I'm pretty sure your. 

1532
01:01:08,380 --> 01:01:10,580
PC was maths specialist, Math 
specialist. 

1533
01:01:10,590 --> 01:01:11,590
You're special. 
I am the. 

1534
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,390
Best possible math teacher. 
I'm not even that. 

1535
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,330
That's the point. 
I've done math specialism. 

1536
01:01:16,340 --> 01:01:18,610
I'm not even the best, It's my 
favourite subject. 

1537
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,110
I've probably the best subject 
if I'm being perfectly honest. 

1538
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,130
As a teacher, you can reflect on
what you think your best subject

1539
01:01:23,140 --> 01:01:25,890
is to teach maths is. 
I understand the curriculum, I 

1540
01:01:25,900 --> 01:01:28,250
understand the, the, the, the 
points we've got to get to. 

1541
01:01:28,340 --> 01:01:30,090
I feel very, very confident 
teaching maths. 

1542
01:01:30,100 --> 01:01:32,410
I think I could teach maths 
without any resources. 

1543
01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:34,150
I really do. 
At this point I would say I'm at

1544
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,670
that point of teaching maths now
where I could walk into a room 

1545
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,970
every day. 
No, but here's my point. 

1546
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,100
But here's my point. 
That is 112th of the curriculum.

1547
01:01:43,110 --> 01:01:45,130
Do you feel like that? 
Do I feel like English? 

1548
01:01:45,180 --> 01:01:47,360
No, I feel like I'm a good 
English teacher. 

1549
01:01:47,420 --> 01:01:51,480
Do I feel that with history? 
No, absolutely not. 

1550
01:01:51,490 --> 01:01:52,780
Do I feel like music? 
No. 

1551
01:01:52,850 --> 01:01:55,820
Do I feel like that with PE? 
No, no, no, No other subject do 

1552
01:01:55,830 --> 01:01:58,600
I feel that close to. 
However, my timetable is I've 

1553
01:01:58,610 --> 01:02:01,260
got to teach everything and I've
got to teach at a really high 

1554
01:02:01,270 --> 01:02:04,110
level. 
And as a culture in school we 

1555
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,080
have this idea of specialist 
teachers, right? 

1556
01:02:06,230 --> 01:02:08,490
But very, very much so. 
And I'd be interested to hear 

1557
01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:11,270
other people think. 
I think specialist teaching is 

1558
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,280
limited to three subjects. 
PE, music, modern foreign 

1559
01:02:15,290 --> 01:02:17,490
languages. 
If you are a specialist teacher 

1560
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:19,950
in a primary school, I reckon 
it's 99%. 

1561
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:25,750
You're one of those 3. 
OK Why then is it that we 

1562
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:31,310
pretend that children need a 
specialist in music in PE, in 

1563
01:02:31,370 --> 01:02:33,770
modern foreign languages but not
history? 

1564
01:02:33,820 --> 01:02:35,410
No, no, that can be the teacher,
of course. 

1565
01:02:35,420 --> 01:02:36,230
Not. 
Geography. 

1566
01:02:36,940 --> 01:02:40,030
ICGT might be another specialist
teacher, but in a lot of schools

1567
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,130
the teachers teach the ICT. 
That is such a niche that you 

1568
01:02:44,140 --> 01:02:49,110
can't possibly be an expert. 
And why the coding Exactly? 

1569
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,480
So I guess the point is, why 
don't we have more specialist 

1570
01:02:53,490 --> 01:02:56,220
teachers? 
Why don't we as teaching staff 

1571
01:02:56,270 --> 01:02:58,330
if we're looking at the 
timetable as a teacher's point 

1572
01:02:58,340 --> 01:02:59,020
of view? 
Hmm. 

1573
01:02:59,060 --> 01:03:01,160
Why isn't my timetable maths all
morning? 

1574
01:03:01,250 --> 01:03:02,680
Why? 
Why don't I teach maths to more 

1575
01:03:02,690 --> 01:03:04,710
than one class? 
I'm better at teaching maths 

1576
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,720
than other subjects. 
Why aren't I then in a primary 

1577
01:03:07,730 --> 01:03:09,140
school? 
It's happened in secondary 

1578
01:03:09,150 --> 01:03:10,360
school. 
You have specialist teachers? 

1579
01:03:10,450 --> 01:03:12,160
One in a primary school? 
Then do I not have? 

1580
01:03:12,170 --> 01:03:13,860
Why don't I have four math 
classes instead of one? 

1581
01:03:13,930 --> 01:03:15,670
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Why doesn't someone else have 4 

1582
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,300
history classes instead of the 
closest? 

1583
01:03:17,310 --> 01:03:20,350
Example I guess would be I'm a 
year six teacher so I have to 

1584
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,610
teach every single subject year 
six level. 

1585
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,130
But in one year's time every 
single one of those subjects 

1586
01:03:27,140 --> 01:03:28,910
will be taught by a specialist 
teacher and it would be 

1587
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,650
ludicrous for the idea of a year
seven teacher teaching all 

1588
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,170
teaching every single one 
wouldn't. 

1589
01:03:33,180 --> 01:03:34,610
So Can you imagine a secondary 
school teacher? 

1590
01:03:34,620 --> 01:03:36,980
It was mainly based in year 
seven and they're like right 

1591
01:03:36,990 --> 01:03:39,620
this week you've got to do maths
and English, sorry, you've got 

1592
01:03:39,630 --> 01:03:41,060
to do both. 
I know you're the other maths 

1593
01:03:41,070 --> 01:03:42,310
teacher, but would you mind 
covering this? 

1594
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:43,910
All right. 
You've also got to do geography,

1595
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,330
history, PE and RE and they are 
doing French at the moment and 

1596
01:03:47,340 --> 01:03:49,850
planet. 
And planet and planet, please, 

1597
01:03:49,860 --> 01:03:51,870
and understand the curriculum. 
What? 

1598
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,290
I'm one year away from that. 
Like what? 

1599
01:03:53,300 --> 01:03:55,210
What are we talking is mental. 
This is mad. 

1600
01:03:55,740 --> 01:03:59,280
I mean we've we've talked about 
in the previous episode when we 

1601
01:03:59,290 --> 01:04:04,090
talked about Ofsted, we did talk
about maybe why it's become so 

1602
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:07,990
pressurised now, like you've got
to be so specialised in every 

1603
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,510
single subject, whereas before 
it was a little bit like maybe 

1604
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:11,950
it was a bit more accepting of 
the reality. 

1605
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,480
If you're not actually going to 
be though, are you. 

1606
01:04:13,490 --> 01:04:15,870
So let's just do like a 
foundation in these subjects. 

1607
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,020
But your question. 
So what was your question? 

1608
01:04:20,030 --> 01:04:21,150
What we can do about it? 
Well. 

1609
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,170
My my point that I was making 
with specialist teachers is we 

1610
01:04:24,180 --> 01:04:26,130
we pretend that we need them for
these subjects. 

1611
01:04:26,140 --> 01:04:26,970
Yeah. 
Or. 

1612
01:04:26,980 --> 01:04:28,530
Or We do need them for these 
subjects. 

1613
01:04:28,540 --> 01:04:29,450
Even. 
I don't even think. 

1614
01:04:29,460 --> 01:04:32,120
I think I'm not pretending. 
They're much better at doing it.

1615
01:04:32,170 --> 01:04:32,870
So why? 
Why? 

1616
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,140
Therefore, why don't we have 
specialist teachers won't have 

1617
01:04:35,150 --> 01:04:37,170
that mindset with all of the 
curriculum. 

1618
01:04:37,220 --> 01:04:39,200
Why does it stop at modern 
foreign languages? 

1619
01:04:39,210 --> 01:04:40,450
Do you know it's? 
The same reason. 

1620
01:04:40,460 --> 01:04:42,520
It's the same reason that if you
if you walk into a school, 

1621
01:04:42,530 --> 01:04:44,990
there's an 80% chance you'll 
trip over a carpet that was put 

1622
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,250
down in 1995. 
There's no money. 

1623
01:04:48,330 --> 01:04:50,060
There's no there's no money, is 
there? 

1624
01:04:50,070 --> 01:04:51,740
Yeah, well, that's. 
How They save money, right? 

1625
01:04:51,830 --> 01:04:53,920
Yeah. 
They say, OK, we're gonna get 

1626
01:04:53,930 --> 01:04:56,750
rid of the specialist teacher. 
So the point of being at this 

1627
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,960
point, we're not moving towards 
more specialist teachers, we're 

1628
01:04:58,970 --> 01:05:00,970
moving towards no specialist 
teachers. 

1629
01:05:01,010 --> 01:05:02,620
So we're gonna save money. 
So you have to pay the 

1630
01:05:02,630 --> 01:05:05,270
specialist to come anymore. 
But you have to teach PE. 

1631
01:05:05,590 --> 01:05:07,030
Stressful. 
What are the consequences of 

1632
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,440
that stress? 
It is so. 

1633
01:05:08,450 --> 01:05:11,130
Stressful and I know you're 
going to make a point a minute 

1634
01:05:11,140 --> 01:05:14,960
about what you can do about it, 
but it is horribly stressful. 

1635
01:05:15,230 --> 01:05:19,330
You just if you take that 
seriously, if you take your role

1636
01:05:19,340 --> 01:05:21,740
really, really seriously, then 
you're going to burnout. 

1637
01:05:21,810 --> 01:05:24,540
Yeah, because you just can't be.
You need to get over it. 

1638
01:05:24,550 --> 01:05:26,960
You can't be. 
You genuinely can't be a 

1639
01:05:26,970 --> 01:05:28,730
specialist, like an actual 
specialist. 

1640
01:05:28,740 --> 01:05:31,000
You can be good. 
You can be a good geography 

1641
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:32,300
teacher. 
I've taught this quickly, five 

1642
01:05:32,310 --> 01:05:33,540
Times Now. 
I've been the same year. 

1643
01:05:33,550 --> 01:05:37,140
I'm really good at teaching this
unit now, but you're not. 

1644
01:05:37,150 --> 01:05:39,200
You're not going to be a 
specialist in geography and 

1645
01:05:39,210 --> 01:05:41,620
history teaching. 
It for six hours every time. 

1646
01:05:41,630 --> 01:05:43,110
Yeah, it's. 
Just not going to happen and you

1647
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,580
just kind of need to not let 
that impact you in the way that 

1648
01:05:46,590 --> 01:05:48,130
it would if you really took that
seriously. 

1649
01:05:48,140 --> 01:05:49,610
Well, because. 
The point being, if you get rid 

1650
01:05:49,620 --> 01:05:52,330
of a teacher, a specialist 
teacher, and you pass it on to a

1651
01:05:52,340 --> 01:05:55,610
classroom teacher, yeah, I'm not
dissing as classroom teachers 

1652
01:05:55,620 --> 01:05:57,350
whatsoever. 
We've got unbelievable skills. 

1653
01:05:57,580 --> 01:06:00,030
But the children won't be 
getting as good a curriculum. 

1654
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:01,670
They won't be getting as good in
the cosmos. 

1655
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,910
So we have a specialist teacher,
music in our school, Yeah, 

1656
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,870
fantastic. 
If that stopped. 

1657
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,920
And I then had to teach. 
In fact, no, I do teach the 

1658
01:06:08,930 --> 01:06:10,070
music. 
Never mind. 

1659
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,700
No, no. 
But they have. 

1660
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,310
They have groups where they 
teach it, they take assembly, 

1661
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,280
singer, assembly. 
They have different year groups 

1662
01:06:16,290 --> 01:06:17,880
where they teach, if they do 
teach. 

1663
01:06:17,890 --> 01:06:20,500
And so everyone in year three 
and four, yeah, gets music 

1664
01:06:20,510 --> 01:06:22,230
intervention and the. 
Specialist gives me all the 

1665
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,150
planning things like that, so I 
might do something but let's 

1666
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,030
think more one way. 
Actually I don't teach any of 

1667
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,690
it. 
So something like modern foreign

1668
01:06:27,700 --> 01:06:30,110
do do more. 
So we have, we have a teacher 

1669
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,420
who do that, right. 
If that suddenly fell on me, it 

1670
01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:34,700
just wouldn't be as good. 
No. 

1671
01:06:35,090 --> 01:06:36,680
And that's not because I can't 
be bothered. 

1672
01:06:36,690 --> 01:06:39,300
I just, I'm not. 
I'm not a specialist in it. 

1673
01:06:39,350 --> 01:06:42,590
It would be insulting to the 
specialist teachers out there 

1674
01:06:42,650 --> 01:06:44,620
for me to say, yeah, I'd 
probably be as good. 

1675
01:06:44,850 --> 01:06:47,430
Yeah, all of them. 
All of these, of course. 

1676
01:06:47,550 --> 01:06:50,440
And then the. 
Specialist knows every Tuesday. 

1677
01:06:50,490 --> 01:06:54,250
I've got Spanish with year three
and I can plan that curriculum 

1678
01:06:54,260 --> 01:06:56,340
out. 
That's really cognitive load is 

1679
01:06:56,350 --> 01:07:00,340
less, they've got more to do. 
But it's all within Spanish. 

1680
01:07:00,620 --> 01:07:02,700
It's all within French. 
It's all within, you know, it's 

1681
01:07:02,710 --> 01:07:05,260
it's all within a certain 
subject which they know really 

1682
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:06,020
well. 
But back to your. 

1683
01:07:06,030 --> 01:07:07,160
Question. 
I do think it's budget. 

1684
01:07:07,210 --> 01:07:09,800
I honestly, I I genuinely think 
if if there was just the money 

1685
01:07:09,810 --> 01:07:11,720
there, yeah, I don't think I 
had, teacher would think twice 

1686
01:07:11,730 --> 01:07:12,820
about it. 
But yeah, of course we got the 

1687
01:07:12,830 --> 01:07:13,370
money. 
Let's get it. 

1688
01:07:13,380 --> 01:07:14,560
Let's get in these. 
OK, but why? 

1689
01:07:14,570 --> 01:07:16,300
Don't we? 
Why do we stop there? 

1690
01:07:16,350 --> 01:07:19,310
And that's my point. 
There will be nothing against me

1691
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,640
teaching maths all morning and 
someone else teaching English, 

1692
01:07:21,650 --> 01:07:23,640
or more so like a. 
Secondary school setup almost. 

1693
01:07:23,650 --> 01:07:26,020
In terms of English and maths, 
like you know, if you have 

1694
01:07:26,030 --> 01:07:28,940
teachers who are more specialist
and it would take less of a 

1695
01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:33,040
cognitive load, are we descaling
them or is it simply just not 

1696
01:07:33,110 --> 01:07:34,670
practical? 
Or is it just against the 

1697
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:35,650
culture? 
It's a big. 

1698
01:07:35,660 --> 01:07:37,230
Question isn't it? 
Because it's probably a lot. 

1699
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,930
You know we probably do a whole 
episode on there. 

1700
01:07:39,380 --> 01:07:41,190
Should we teach like secondary 
schools? 

1701
01:07:41,230 --> 01:07:44,190
Because I reckon we could really
go dive down into maybe it's 

1702
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,630
because there's more nurturing 
in primary school and actually 

1703
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,680
building those relationships 
with your class and having them 

1704
01:07:48,690 --> 01:07:51,870
more often rather than like a a 
form group that go off all day 

1705
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,570
but if you. 
Set. 

1706
01:07:52,580 --> 01:07:55,190
You already did that, yeah? 
True heart like half the time. 

1707
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,750
Usually if you set the 
afternoons, you still have your.

1708
01:07:58,290 --> 01:07:59,590
Afternoon. 
You still have your class. 

1709
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,140
I mean mornings staff are 
spitting half half of them, 

1710
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,440
yeah. 
For example, one teacher will 

1711
01:08:05,450 --> 01:08:08,660
teach year 3 English and year 4 
English, yeah. 

1712
01:08:08,670 --> 01:08:11,800
And then I would teach year 
three-year 4 maths and year 3 

1713
01:08:11,810 --> 01:08:12,700
maths. 
So we. 

1714
01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:14,360
I I've posted this before and 
I've seen it. 

1715
01:08:14,370 --> 01:08:16,960
I have seen it happen in schools
very rarely and I always find it

1716
01:08:16,970 --> 01:08:19,100
weird the counter argument that 
the only counter argument I've 

1717
01:08:19,109 --> 01:08:22,080
ever heard to this is ohh no ID 
skills teachers. 

1718
01:08:22,689 --> 01:08:24,760
Does it? 
How de skilled is apology year 

1719
01:08:24,770 --> 01:08:25,920
10 teacher? 
Yeah. 

1720
01:08:25,970 --> 01:08:28,580
Yeah, I think finally. 
Skilled because they don't know 

1721
01:08:28,590 --> 01:08:31,460
how to teach physics. 
And no, yeah, of course they're 

1722
01:08:31,470 --> 01:08:33,200
they're incredibly skilled at 
what they do. 

1723
01:08:33,450 --> 01:08:34,950
Look at what they're doing. 
The point? 

1724
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,640
That those people are making is 
that kind of wide proof it's 

1725
01:08:37,649 --> 01:08:40,520
future if like realistically 
most schools don't do that. 

1726
01:08:40,529 --> 01:08:45,010
So if we were gonna be the one 
edgy school that you only teach 

1727
01:08:45,020 --> 01:08:47,370
maths and someone else only 
teaches English, if you need a 

1728
01:08:47,380 --> 01:08:49,819
new job in three years time, 
that's what they mean by 

1729
01:08:49,830 --> 01:08:51,149
deskilled. 
It's like you're going to get 

1730
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,450
employed now and. 
That's that's a really good 

1731
01:08:53,460 --> 01:08:53,930
point. 
It's. 

1732
01:08:53,939 --> 01:08:55,250
Realistic, isn't it? 
But again, I think. 

1733
01:08:55,260 --> 01:08:57,950
It would have to come down to 
that point, the choice of the 

1734
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,189
teacher. 
I'd be making that choice to go 

1735
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,910
step into that role, knowing 
that fact. 

1736
01:09:01,979 --> 01:09:04,100
Yeah. 
Whereas if the school use that, 

1737
01:09:04,109 --> 01:09:05,450
that's their score. 
It's irrelevant. 

1738
01:09:05,460 --> 01:09:07,569
Other schools are doing, yeah, 
but you know, you would have to.

1739
01:09:07,580 --> 01:09:10,270
It might be harder to recruit 
people for that reason, but as 

1740
01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:12,810
as a teacher, I think I'd really
consider that actually it's. 

1741
01:09:12,819 --> 01:09:13,790
Good. 
You made a really good point 

1742
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,069
there. 
There's other situations where 

1743
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,770
it is acceptable and the 
outcomes are the same. 

1744
01:09:16,779 --> 01:09:19,649
For example, our literal jobs 
were part time job shared. 

1745
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,660
So someone could say the things 
you don't do on Thursday and 

1746
01:09:22,670 --> 01:09:25,090
Friday, you're being deskilled 
and it's like no one's ever. 

1747
01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:26,569
Said that to me. 
But it could be, yeah, no. 

1748
01:09:26,580 --> 01:09:27,810
But that's what I'm saying to 
you. 

1749
01:09:27,819 --> 01:09:30,399
I agree, and it's harder. 
To get we walked into this 

1750
01:09:30,410 --> 01:09:32,979
knowing that it would be 
extremely hard now and it is for

1751
01:09:32,990 --> 01:09:35,979
us to go and get another job We 
wouldn't be able to now just go 

1752
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:37,960
on on on look for job 
advertisement. 

1753
01:09:37,970 --> 01:09:39,600
Ohh, yeah, I'll go and do that 
other one that's a job share 

1754
01:09:39,609 --> 01:09:41,600
Monday to Wednesday, but 
specifically this thing that I 

1755
01:09:41,609 --> 01:09:43,939
have now do and because we. 
Don't teach Fridays, I'm really 

1756
01:09:43,950 --> 01:09:48,200
bad at non uniform days now. 
I'm so good at Bank Holiday 

1757
01:09:48,210 --> 01:09:51,060
Monday, honestly. 
I'm so sorry. 

1758
01:09:51,069 --> 01:09:54,300
Job shares, Sorry we get all the
bank holidays, but yeah, I think

1759
01:09:54,310 --> 01:09:56,340
you know, OK. 
In general that's a great chat. 

1760
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:59,340
Round it all off. 
Is the primary school term 

1761
01:09:59,350 --> 01:10:02,540
timetable fit for purpose? 
Again, yes. 

1762
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:04,660
No. 
It. 

1763
01:10:04,670 --> 01:10:07,040
It's never going to be fit for 
purpose because it's never going

1764
01:10:07,050 --> 01:10:09,340
to be able to actually deliver 
on what it's designed to 

1765
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:11,380
deliver, yeah. 
However, depending on what your 

1766
01:10:11,390 --> 01:10:13,870
school's purpose is, it can be 
fit for purpose. 

1767
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,540
We do what the? 
Government's resolution to this 

1768
01:10:15,550 --> 01:10:16,650
20 years ago. 
Yeah. 

1769
01:10:16,660 --> 01:10:18,480
Remember when they talk to us 
and was like, oh please, no, 

1770
01:10:18,490 --> 01:10:19,780
they're gonna extend the school 
day. 

1771
01:10:19,790 --> 01:10:21,310
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, No. 

1772
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:23,400
No, no, no, no, no, no, please 
don't listen that. 

1773
01:10:23,410 --> 01:10:24,600
Is. 
We can't get into that. 

1774
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:28,820
Another time, we're gonna talk 
about why more isn't always 

1775
01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:32,680
better. 
More lessons does not equal 

1776
01:10:32,730 --> 01:10:33,560
more. 
Money. 

1777
01:10:33,630 --> 01:10:36,070
Not always. 
Better don't need it. 

1778
01:10:36,740 --> 01:10:38,610
Backwards, right. 
So we pay. 

1779
01:10:38,620 --> 01:10:40,900
Jingle and then finish off with 
a little game very quick. 

1780
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,950
Yeah. 
OK, quick game. 

1781
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,150
Hayden, want to make this thing.
I want to play games every week.

1782
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,340
However, we did really like last
game so it's going to stay the 

1783
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:52,260
same with each prepared A 
category. 

1784
01:10:52,350 --> 01:10:54,300
OK, so for example anyone 
listening at home didn't listen 

1785
01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:56,110
last week. 
This game is called Lies. 

1786
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,500
You may have seen on Sky Sports 
they do this all the time. 

1787
01:10:58,510 --> 01:10:59,510
Yeah, this is where I've got it 
from. 

1788
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,810
I've watched it before. 
It's a very simple game where 

1789
01:11:02,820 --> 01:11:05,320
there's a category, it might be 
colours. 

1790
01:11:05,390 --> 01:11:08,330
Hayden and I go backwards and 
forwards bidding how many we 

1791
01:11:08,340 --> 01:11:10,180
think we can answer in 30 
seconds. 

1792
01:11:10,190 --> 01:11:11,550
So we need a timer up. 
Yeah. 

1793
01:11:11,630 --> 01:11:13,460
So how many we can name in 30 
seconds? 

1794
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,320
The key part here is that it's 
only 30 seconds because last 

1795
01:11:16,330 --> 01:11:19,390
time Hayden's first bid, it's a 
bidding process. 

1796
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,150
By the way, there's no need to 
go in high because we can just 

1797
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,370
bid against each other. 
I asked him how many things in 

1798
01:11:23,380 --> 01:11:26,730
the classroom can you name? 
And his first bid was 25. 

1799
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,960
Now could you name 25 things in 
the classroom? 

1800
01:11:28,970 --> 01:11:31,550
Yes, of course you could, But 
can you do 30 seconds? 

1801
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,470
Probably not. 
So I think we've learned a 

1802
01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:35,600
lesson because we went really 
low, really high last time. 

1803
01:11:35,610 --> 01:11:37,400
What happens? 
When we keep bidding, how does 

1804
01:11:37,410 --> 01:11:38,590
it end? 
So, whoever. 

1805
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:43,230
If for example, if you say you 
can name 14 if I think you can, 

1806
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,290
I've got a bit of something I 
reckon did 14, I'll go 15. 

1807
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,510
Hayden goes, haha, I was waiting
for him to say 15, No you can't.

1808
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:50,630
You call me a liar. 
Yeah. 

1809
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,770
So as soon as you think someone 
is strategic, basically if you 

1810
01:11:53,780 --> 01:11:55,230
name them all, you get a point, 
Yeah. 

1811
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,090
If you don't, the other person 
gets a point. 

1812
01:11:57,130 --> 01:12:00,910
So whatever point you want to 
call a bluff, you say OK, no, 

1813
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,130
backwards and forwards and then 
that's it basically. 

1814
01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:08,440
So Hayden, you've got the 1st. 
One, yeah, I've got a category. 

1815
01:12:08,580 --> 01:12:09,770
Are you ready? 
So when do I start? 

1816
01:12:09,780 --> 01:12:11,290
I don't want to say no. 
We did. 

1817
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,730
We did it. 
You gonna start the timer now? 

1818
01:12:13,740 --> 01:12:15,400
I'm ready to start. 
OK. 

1819
01:12:15,410 --> 01:12:18,200
So the category is animals with 
four legs. 

1820
01:12:18,650 --> 01:12:19,860
Four legs. 
OK, OK. 

1821
01:12:19,870 --> 01:12:22,180
OK. 
OK, definitely, definitely 7 

1822
01:12:24,430 --> 01:12:25,200
OHH. 
It's good, yeah. 

1823
01:12:25,210 --> 01:12:32,040
Yeah, just coughing 9/9. 
I can do 1000 percent 100%. 11. 

1824
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:34,890
Now do I make you do it? 
No. 

1825
01:12:34,900 --> 01:12:37,330
I can do 12 easy. 
Tough liar. 

1826
01:12:37,340 --> 01:12:40,870
No, I really wanted to but I was
really trying to push him up. 

1827
01:12:41,010 --> 01:12:41,770
Was thinking the. 
Closer. 

1828
01:12:41,780 --> 01:12:45,370
We get to 15. 
That's OK How many 11121212 Did 

1829
01:12:45,380 --> 01:12:47,210
I say I'm ready? 
30 seconds. 

1830
01:12:47,220 --> 01:12:49,470
Animals with four legs? 
Go cat. 

1831
01:12:49,580 --> 01:12:51,190
Dog. 
Mouse. 

1832
01:12:51,260 --> 01:12:53,630
Hedgehog. 
Chameleon. 

1833
01:12:54,510 --> 01:13:00,560
Elephant, Tiger, Lion, Platypus,
Anteater. 

1834
01:13:00,630 --> 01:13:01,920
You got 18? 
Seconds. 

1835
01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:06,950
Baboon ape, yeah. 
That's 12 ohh. 

1836
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,460
I got 12 seconds left. 
Ohh. 

1837
01:13:08,510 --> 01:13:10,290
I was walking around the zoo. 
My hearing. 

1838
01:13:10,300 --> 01:13:13,300
My head then I thought, no, I. 
I honestly thought I couldn't 

1839
01:13:13,310 --> 01:13:15,580
find the zoo. 
What do I see? 

1840
01:13:16,010 --> 01:13:18,830
One we did last week, I put 
myself in my doorway of my 

1841
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,920
classroom and walked around 
trying to name the things like. 

1842
01:13:21,540 --> 01:13:23,430
Yeah, yeah. 
OK, My girlfriend. 

1843
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:24,890
One now. 
OK, My one. 

1844
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:27,720
Yeah, I see. 
I think this is a bit harder, 

1845
01:13:27,730 --> 01:13:29,590
but maybe we'll still bid to 
that kind of level. 

1846
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,940
I don't know. 
OK, so my one is different kinds

1847
01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:36,160
of New Year's resolution. 
So classic New Year's 

1848
01:13:36,170 --> 01:13:38,410
resolutions. 
OK, how many New Year's 

1849
01:13:38,420 --> 01:13:47,290
resolutions can you name? 
1 2 New Year's resolution Yeah, 

1850
01:13:47,300 --> 01:13:48,740
different. 
Things people might say for any 

1851
01:13:48,750 --> 01:13:56,800
resolution you can think of. 
Loads of 3/4. 5. 6 easy. 7. 

1852
01:13:56,810 --> 01:13:58,820
Yeah, go later. 
I knew. 

1853
01:13:58,830 --> 01:14:00,130
I knew you didn't want to strike
at me. 

1854
01:14:00,140 --> 01:14:01,980
Higher. 
OK, ready. 7 New Year's 

1855
01:14:01,990 --> 01:14:02,900
resolutions. 
Go. 

1856
01:14:02,940 --> 01:14:03,730
God. 
OK. 

1857
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:05,100
To. 
Become healthier? 

1858
01:14:05,170 --> 01:14:08,600
Yes. 
Yeah, that's too vague to go to 

1859
01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:09,610
the gym. 
OK. 

1860
01:14:09,620 --> 01:14:12,620
Is that one or two you keeping 
the first time OK to? 

1861
01:14:12,660 --> 01:14:14,930
Start running that. 
No you can't. 

1862
01:14:14,940 --> 01:14:16,480
You can't have gym healthier and
running. 

1863
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,710
OK, to start a new hobby? 
Yes, that's the thing. 

1864
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:26,330
To get a new job. 
Yes for to resolutions to people

1865
01:14:26,340 --> 01:14:30,330
have to. 
Give you running 5 three seconds

1866
01:14:30,340 --> 01:14:31,370
5 so to. 
Make to make it. 

1867
01:14:31,380 --> 01:14:32,450
Get a new girlfriend? 
Boyfriend. 

1868
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:35,710
I don't know. 
One news resolution is that. 

1869
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,690
The same 1 to get a girlfriend 
and boyfriend. 

1870
01:14:37,700 --> 01:14:40,350
Yeah, that's. 2-3 Kings I quit. 
Smoking. 

1871
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,310
Quit drinking. 
Oh my God. 

1872
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,710
Quit stuff, yeah. 
Stop stuff my brain. 

1873
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:44,900
Get to work on. 
Time. 

1874
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,500
Obviously don't be on TV. 
Lots of times Chris shows and 

1875
01:14:49,510 --> 01:14:51,180
occasionally would be like, oh 
we could do this one. 

1876
01:14:51,190 --> 01:14:54,130
He finds the one where it's like
this low stakes listen, I'm 

1877
01:14:54,140 --> 01:14:55,350
being. 
I'm being polite, OK? 

1878
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:56,050
I've. 
Got I've. 

1879
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,250
I've got James on the other 
line. 

1880
01:14:57,260 --> 01:14:58,350
Ready. 
Like James. 

1881
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,330
It's you, mate. 
I'll pretend I just freeze. 

1882
01:15:00,340 --> 01:15:03,470
Up when I'm under pressure. 
And you don't know anything. 

1883
01:15:03,540 --> 01:15:04,330
And I don't know. 
Anything. 

1884
01:15:04,340 --> 01:15:05,940
Anyway, let's. 
Finish off. 

1885
01:15:05,980 --> 01:15:09,640
It's been a longest episode. 
It's been a proper enjoyable 

1886
01:15:09,650 --> 01:15:11,650
one. 
I've loved this one bit longer. 

1887
01:15:11,700 --> 01:15:13,470
Perfect we're now gonna go 
through. 

1888
01:15:13,480 --> 01:15:16,150
I asked last question was if you
made it this far through all of 

1889
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,960
our questions and potentially 
Instagram, what your top tips 

1890
01:15:18,970 --> 01:15:20,960
for this year? 
How can we make this year 

1891
01:15:21,010 --> 01:15:23,380
really, really cool? 
Hayden, I want you to rate them 

1892
01:15:23,450 --> 01:15:25,780
out of 10. 
How good is this? 

1893
01:15:25,790 --> 01:15:27,820
Advice out of 10, OK, because 
you're not gonna know who sent 

1894
01:15:27,830 --> 01:15:29,280
them because some of these are 
friends as well. 

1895
01:15:29,290 --> 01:15:32,440
OK, so ready. 
Firstly, planning your PPA, 

1896
01:15:32,450 --> 01:15:35,380
anything that takes longer is 
just too much work 10. 

1897
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:37,440
Solid advice. 
That was my one. 

1898
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,200
Next one smile every day. 
Six. 

1899
01:15:42,270 --> 01:15:43,350
Ohh. 
I liked that one. 

1900
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:44,520
Nice, simple. 
Go for it. 

1901
01:15:45,330 --> 01:15:47,640
Breakdown everything you've got 
to do into simple segments. 

1902
01:15:47,650 --> 01:15:50,880
Tick them off as you go. 
Solid eight, really nice bit of 

1903
01:15:50,890 --> 01:15:52,110
advice there. 
I think the best. 

1904
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:53,350
Thing we ever got bought, by the
way. 

1905
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,030
Well, I always remember it's one
of our head of years. 

1906
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,680
Yeah. 
In second or third year of 

1907
01:15:57,690 --> 01:15:59,820
teaching brought us all To Do 
List. 

1908
01:15:59,950 --> 01:16:01,730
Yeah, Do you know? 
What the advice was from testing

1909
01:16:01,770 --> 01:16:04,900
where the health visitor around 
for the baby and her advice to 

1910
01:16:04,910 --> 01:16:08,130
deal with post Natal stress and 
just having so many things to do

1911
01:16:08,140 --> 01:16:11,240
was get her To Do List, write it
down and that way you don't have

1912
01:16:11,250 --> 01:16:13,820
to think about it. 
So clear for me, and I am much 

1913
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:18,840
more both efficient and I forget
listings, fewer things when I 

1914
01:16:18,850 --> 01:16:19,960
write things down. 
On To Do List. 

1915
01:16:19,970 --> 01:16:22,390
It actually changed my teaching 
genuinely little things. 

1916
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,880
But really important, be 
antisocial after work. 

1917
01:16:26,550 --> 01:16:29,480
That is a really good one. 
I loved that one. 

1918
01:16:30,130 --> 01:16:31,880
Work is work. 
They'd replace you within a 

1919
01:16:31,890 --> 01:16:34,070
month if you left. 
So just prioritise your home 

1920
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,890
life. 11 Yeah, I love that one. 
That is one of the people who 

1921
01:16:36,900 --> 01:16:37,690
worked with us. 
That is the. 

1922
01:16:37,700 --> 01:16:39,340
Man, that is mantra right? 
Absolutely. 

1923
01:16:39,390 --> 01:16:42,100
This is really interesting one 
and I agree, stay calm. 

1924
01:16:42,110 --> 01:16:44,780
I've been teaching for over 25 
years and I love it. 

1925
01:16:44,990 --> 01:16:46,800
I get chased up, I haven't done 
anything. 

1926
01:16:47,090 --> 01:16:48,430
It's fine. 
That's like. 

1927
01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:51,890
That advice given from our 
deputy a long time ago, another 

1928
01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:53,010
10. 
These are all such good bits of 

1929
01:16:53,020 --> 01:16:55,940
advice, say. 
No to anything that drains you 

1930
01:16:56,410 --> 01:16:58,090
or that you are not getting paid
for. 

1931
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,580
No2 you should do loads of 
things that you. 

1932
01:17:00,590 --> 01:17:02,550
Should if you're a. 
Teacher, you should be working 

1933
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:03,510
for free. 
I can. 

1934
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,650
Sense a 10 out of 10 sarcasm. 
It's all really good. 

1935
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,830
Prioritise. 
Keep the children's progress and

1936
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,750
needs as the priority. 
Other menial things can always 

1937
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,850
wait. 9. 
Make actual good content instead

1938
01:17:15,860 --> 01:17:17,800
of all of this rubbish that you 
can put on Instagram. 

1939
01:17:17,810 --> 01:17:20,450
That who sent this? 
One You wrote that, you wrote 

1940
01:17:20,460 --> 01:17:21,400
that one. 
Yeah, it wasn't. 

1941
01:17:21,410 --> 01:17:22,810
Anonymous. 
How good is that Ted trying to 

1942
01:17:22,820 --> 01:17:25,410
prank you too? 
This one. 

1943
01:17:25,420 --> 01:17:28,120
Really made me laugh. 
We used to work with quit. 

1944
01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:33,870
I I saw this comfort. 
It really cracked me up. 

1945
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,960
Good. 
It's the four laughing emojis 

1946
01:17:35,970 --> 01:17:37,650
after for me. 
Yeah, really good. 

1947
01:17:37,660 --> 01:17:41,090
So yeah, there's resolution. 
Was the quick, quick best thing 

1948
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:43,230
she did. 
By the way, you listen amazing 

1949
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:44,410
teacher. 
We miss you. 

1950
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,050
But you did you. 
Well done. 

1951
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:47,390
You do you. 
You do you. 

1952
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,210
You do you. 
Make sure you have something 

1953
01:17:50,220 --> 01:17:52,350
else outside of work that makes 
you happy. 

1954
01:17:52,420 --> 01:17:57,090
Gives you some me time. 
That is a solid 10, I agree. 

1955
01:17:57,220 --> 01:17:58,710
It's just these are all really 
important things. 

1956
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,110
Really, really important. 
And this one, one of our 

1957
01:18:01,170 --> 01:18:03,190
favourite people who has been on
the podcast before. 

1958
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,070
You know who it is when I say, 
OK, not having a baby, So we've 

1959
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,970
all failed at that. 
He said that Sophie. 

1960
01:18:09,980 --> 01:18:10,750
Ohh. 
I thought it might be. 

1961
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,050
Yeah, so. 
I was like, yeah, that that 

1962
01:18:13,060 --> 01:18:16,290
would be a way to get time 
because it's just another 

1963
01:18:16,300 --> 01:18:17,390
spanner in the works, you know? 
I was just. 

1964
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:18,760
Thinking we better wrap up this 
podcast. 

1965
01:18:18,770 --> 01:18:21,800
You know why? 
What can we hear screaming 

1966
01:18:21,810 --> 01:18:22,890
babies in the background 
screaming? 

1967
01:18:22,900 --> 01:18:25,490
Babies. 
We are gonna have babies. 

1968
01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:26,640
So stressful. 
Get no free time. 

1969
01:18:26,650 --> 01:18:28,130
Whatever. 
Hour, podcast. 

1970
01:18:28,430 --> 01:18:29,240
Yeah. 
OK, cool. 

1971
01:18:29,460 --> 01:18:31,330
Let's go right. 
Bye, guys. 

1972
01:18:31,340 --> 01:18:32,190
See you next week. 
Bye.

