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Hello everyone. 
Welcome back to another episode 

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of teach sleep. 
Repeat, my name is Dylan and my 

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name is Hayden. 
We got our new voices on this 

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week, for the podcast because 
we've had such a good response 

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to last week with Sophie. 
We've made it, we don't have so 

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far this week, so we need to 
make it more interesting with 

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just us two. 
Again, I think people hate that.

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It's just us two. 
Now, I've got imposter syndrome,

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Hayden. 
How you know? 

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Wow, nobody cares. 
What about you? 

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What about you, dude? 
Yeah, guess it, which is the 

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perfect Sophie now? 
No one cares. 

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I know, right? 
Right. 

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It's it's like the double edged 
sword. 

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There of getting an amazing 
guest on. 

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It's like the people who look at
this one this week and I just 

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play. 
Yes, those two. 

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Can't wait till then my own. 
Yeah, good job. 

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We've got like a really quality 
guest again next week so people 

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can continue to not care about 
us even more. 

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This is just going to slowly 
evolved into a podcast where 

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people are who, who deny? 
But the person I like is 

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actually on it this week, so 
I'll give it a listen. 

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That's all right, for us, still 
gets that podcast money. 

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Doesn't it as customers? 
I would love to clarified 

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everyone. 
Maybe start listening later and 

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stuff. 
We make absolutely no money. 

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It's okay that I didn't. 
The problem is, you're stuck in 

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the past. 
I'm thinking of are seeing, you 

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know, in two years time when we 
look back at this episode, we're

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making podcasts. 
Money. 

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Cool. 
Yeah. 

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Get like a tenor and get, I 
don't know what's it called. 

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You is saying. 
YouTube skillshare sponsored by 

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skillshare going to skillshare. 
Now, put in the code, she sleep.

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Repeat hard to get to four 
percent off. 

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Sponsored by brilliant dog. 
Just for context. 

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I actually got our first email 
asking us for a sponsorship. 

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Not the podcast on another of 
our endeavors with our tutoring 

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and it was brilliant and we just
ignored it for two. 

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We know nothing about prior to 
that. 

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I reply to them and they replied
today you know, wanting to 

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explore this option, a bit more 
and sponsor our channel. 

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So but I think you're going to 
be right there. 

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Yeah, what you think. 
But I reckon like, is in my head

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I'm like, oh, they're gonna give
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make some videos and I'd like to
mention them in as Sponsor and I

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think you're right they're going
to be like here's free access to

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our website for a month that's 
like we get it's gonna be 

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running. 
Nash modern-day sponsorship, 

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they see gentlemen, huge huge 
corporations, preying on the 

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small hope that they do. 
So the leg work for them. 

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Nice one anyway. 
If the podcast suddenly stops, 

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you know it's because we're 
making that big YouTube money, 

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we've only if anyway, we're here
again, it's another week. 

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Just a quick reflection on last 
week I had Had so many messages 

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which Jokes Aside was so nice to
hear from people who said Sophie

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was just so lovely. 
And one of the, one of the best 

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messages I got was from a fellow
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Obviously, if you're in the 
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heard of Sophie because she does
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it's quite helpful. 
But my favorite was from someone

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who said I loved, I loved 
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what? 
She was just as lovely as I 

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thought she was online. 
I was like, yes, that is exactly

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the way to sum up that kind of 
person who's just so amazing and

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over the top. 
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And then the idea of we sat and 
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hour and a half and RN wasn't in
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interaction with her. 
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person. 
So really positive experience, I

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thought for our first guest I 
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she is still finding it really 
awkward by the way, she messaged

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me yesterday and said still 
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It really awkward that people 
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said in the podcast. 
She's just like, this is cringe.

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We used to it now but she'll get
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She'll be on TV in a timely. 
Used to it exactly. 

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Well actually I think that she 
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But maybe when she had her 
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something to she did, allude to 
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I think she was very much 
waiting. 

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I'll wait and see when we're on 
next on the bottom. 

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But yeah, we have already 
recorded our next interview with

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someone. 
We want to say who right now, 

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but that's kind of next week. 
So very exciting but Hayden, 

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we've digressed are. 
I guess, because we wanted to 

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reflect on last week and the 
other viewers like to know. 

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They want to know the viewers. 
Love to know because they're a 

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bit weird. 
They like to watch a sit in a 

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chair now, so they definitely 
want to know the listeners less.

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So, but how was your week, pal? 
I had to know why it's been a 

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couple of weeks. 
Really hasn't it. 

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Since we've actually reflected. 
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one because I got covid for the 
first time finally, thank God. 

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And in the nicest way possible, 
because you are guys won't 

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believe how much this guy went 
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About our do read covid. 
I've never expect you to say. 

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It's a conspiracy of lever, 
right? 

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Nice. 
Not that far, but I was a bit 

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bummed out because I'm, you 
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the last remaining few that 
hadn't got it at school but I've

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had it now. 
It was really annoying. 

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Actually coughed for two weeks, 
straight really frustrating and 

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I my eyes went red. 
So I was good fun. 

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But that low back to the 
podcast, I did go to a writing 

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moderation. 
The other day for your six and 

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when I went into the moderation,
I sat down next to a familiar 

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face. 
Not someone. 

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I know. 
Well, but someone, you know, 

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have had interactions with in 
the past they're like, oh, they 

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were a bit surprised and said 
I've listened to all of your all

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of your podcast episodes, so 
that was really nice. 

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So, cheers, Helena has lovely, 
cheers. 

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Keep it up. 
Just gonna say this is watched 

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Listen to make sure that she 
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decided she wasn't gonna listen 
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isomer complete fraud. 
Okay, thank you. 

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Wow, appreciate that. 
Have you noticed how that we've 

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done the podcast? 
And we have the amazing power to

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edit that real life 
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smoothly, I'm just a mess. 
I will stop. 

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Sorry, it ignore what I just 
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I'll cut that out later and what
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But other than that, in terms of
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You're gonna like this one. 
It's a math game, obviously kids

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so my kids are obsessed, they're
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They just want me to shoot them 
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their fault. 
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they pretend to pass out. 
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three seconds, but this time 
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you make it a farting stick 
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like, no kids. 
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You know, that'd be really 
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They were laughing at the idea 
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down It. 
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Yeah, that's really, really 
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I mean, upload that one. 
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I was like, do you really think 
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embarrass myself. 
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down a meter stick. 
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that's already bad enough 
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was find out. 
Stick. 

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It was hilarious, pretending. 
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laugh. 
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important, just to make them 
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Really far without I could that 
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as a joke, and they were like, 
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So just wanted a mother so low. 
I've gone, these are the depths 

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that we go to guys get our 
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But he sure wasn't in the room. 
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No, of course not. 
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any any one kind of wandered 
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I'm sure pretend that you're 
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back. 
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that day, she had something else
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And the kids are like, we do 
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It was. 
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Apparently in front of like 
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It's just me but that embarrass 
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Come on. 
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Oh dear. 
It's funny. 

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You should mention times tables 
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this week, is the multiplication
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Check, that is going on. 
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with that, the government 
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believe this, by the way, this 
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like way before covariates long 
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the trial run years and covid 
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It didn't feel like it's really 
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felt so we did it last year. 
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And I must say, just again for 
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It's just a very simple check on
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test. 
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You get six seconds per question
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times table questions and they 
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And the score is recorded the 
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gets sent home to parents and 
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of accountability, I suppose 4 
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government expect children in 
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their times tables, by the end 
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Of course, that doesn't always 
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Lots of children, do lots of 
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table checks just designed as a 
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And I've got to say Hayden with 
a video of the first Army to sit

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here and and say, our and slate 
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bringing us, they are they do in
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rubbish. 
I actually think that this is 

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one of the best better things 
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it's really useful. 
Then what your opinion is. 

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Yeah, I don't see the downside 
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So I think the pressure is not 
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not, it's not doesn't on a 
league table, do you know? 

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I mean it is literally for the 
school and they made up. 

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Claire, this is for you to know 
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expectation is that they have 
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year. 
So use the data as you will and 

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let the parents know if they're 
behind or not. 

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You know. 
I think it's a very good thing 

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as well, to be honest of you. 
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important thing I as the teacher
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there was absolutely no pressure
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Even those children who 
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time, time time, lapse. 
That's the biggest thing. 

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I think that was going to cause 
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of children, I teach kind of 
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they know strategies there. 
Kind of count up at least if 

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they don't know the times table 
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of its to kind of win out those 
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Well, do you have to still sit 
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trying to get all the way up to 
six times, nine or can you very 

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quickly work out, six times, ten
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Do you have those strategies and
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That's where a lot of children 
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I think there's no pressure 
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therefore, no pressure on me to 
pass on to the children. 

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It is just simply where And I 
actually think it has been very 

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successful week, actually? 
Yeah, nice. 

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Did you have any interesting 
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that one? 
And that's fine. 

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Just that one that's actually 
fine. 

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I was just no problem. 
I just wondered viewers and 

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listeners time. 
Just just fine. 

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That's fine. 
I've actually got an interesting

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one. 
This is really got to live up to

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the hype now because it's 
actually an average story. 

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But, you know, if you triggered 
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something? 
That's I think something like we

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were doing any resistance day 
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off sentences with adverbials of
time because we're doing next. 

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Patient X and you know how to 
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and ideas. 
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minutes and then the idea of 
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it, there we go. 
Please keep going. 

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I'll get a taste of it but it it
anyway it was about chickens 

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very random all that chickens 
are laying there. 

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Are you got me one of my 
children? 

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Yep, there we go. 
What about children, put their 

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hand up and said we're talking 
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where the comma should go in a 
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something like, where the comic 
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but actually The Clause carries 
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technical speak for anyone at 
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I can't think of the example 
right now. 

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It was like, after comma, you 
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was after a few days in an 
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just discussing where that goes 
anyway. 

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So, you know, you have a really 
deep conversation as a teacher 

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in your shining draw out, you 
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questioning and these ideas from
the children's. 

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Okay. 
Yeah we're do. 

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You think I might go here 
because that? 

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Okay, interesting. 
They would ask any other ideas. 

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It could go there and some 
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going there in this one? 
What's going? 

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On. 
Yes. 

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And I pointed to one of my lat 
and he went, I've got something.

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What came first? 
The chicken or the egg. 

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I know. 
I bet that completely 

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distracted. 
Everyone right. 

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Okay. 
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immediate likes the chicken and 
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quite interesting, but it seems 
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question before, I was thinking 
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the chicken or the egg, and I 
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him. 
I went chicken anyway. 

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Nope, as if you had the answer, 
All right. 

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Okay. 
Sorry you solve this question 

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of. 
Yeah. 

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And as you see I could that's 
okay. 

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Well who laid the egg? 
No one right. 

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Where did it come from? 
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dinosaur or something that's 
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that. 
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from you know amoeba fish. 
Dinosaur egg. 

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Yeah, chicken. 
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Classic. 
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bit of a flashback to today 
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playground heading towards my 
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And We heard some child in the 
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Say look, it's Eggman. 
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bothered to deal with this 
coming. 

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Father, I've seen my head, 
they've gone, it's Eggman, and 

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I'm letting it. 
I'm letting it Fly, you know? 

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Are they wrong though? 
That's what I thought. 

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That's why, that's why I left it
walked off. 

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Can't believe it. 
But little do you know that 

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walking behind? 
You was literally egg - Humpty 

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Dumpty. 
There's me as my ego talking. 

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It also about me again. 
It's a classic on the wall. 

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These kids are just obsessed 
with me. 

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After I sat down at that 
moderation, I realize I was a 

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famous podcasts are right next 
to me. 

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Wasn't talking to me. 
Yeah, I know baby. 

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It was mr. 
P. 

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I've listened to all your 
pocket. 

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Anyway, that was him. 
That's why I hope that was just 

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good for the lessons. 
It was for me because I follow I

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enjoyed that but I can imagine 
the other end that was boring. 

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As we gotta keep this in Dylan, 
just bleep out the word. 

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We don't swear on this podcast, 
guys. 

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You have no idea why I said, you
have no idea what was behind 

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that bleep. 
Ladies and gentlemen, it starts 

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with effort, it rhymes of 
chicken. 

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Hmm. 
Anyway, I think we should 

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swiftly move on before we get in
trouble. 

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That's funny. 
Right before we get into the 

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meaty stuff of today's episode 
Dylan, I've got a really quick, 

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toxic classroom. 
What are we call it? 

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Toxic from the way. 
It's plenty has been a while 

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because you can't remember toxic
thing. 

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I think we just called it toxic 
store. 

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I don't. 
What's the fans will know. 

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Yeah, our fans, will ya your 
mate? 

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From the pot you'll make from 
the moderation should know, 

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she'll be selling text me, text 
me toxicity in schools. 

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That's what I'm gonna call it 
right now, but oh, that's 

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catchy. 
Catchy as our handles and if you

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want to check us out on social 
media, Dylan's gonna tell you 

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right now where to find us, 
teach steep, repeat POD at 

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gmail.com repeat podcast that 
histogram teach Sr pod, cast on 

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Twitter. 
Yeah, and even know how are you 

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going to find it? 
Anyway, toxic schools. 

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Yeah, classic. 
So you know what very quickly 

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can I just say that is now our 
number one listen to podcast 

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episode 5 is that when schools 
become toxic? 

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Yeah. 
Because a lot of people 

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resonated with a lot of people 
and here's another slice of the 

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action. 
Hey, yeah, nice one. 

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So it's recently after we had an
extra half term and I saw this 

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over half term and saved it for 
this episode. 

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So this is what it says 
Anonymous post. 

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Today's my partner's birthday, 
we plan to go out for the day. 

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He's going out for the day but 
by himself because I just have 

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too much work to do. 
I've already spent four full 

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days is half-time, writing 
reports and planning. 

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I've got an extra day. 
Now to do data analysis and some

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sort of project to do. 
And there's an insect later in 

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the I've got to deliver training
on a subject that I don't know 

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anything about classic by the 
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So I've got to train myself and 
then design and deliver the 

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training that I've got to do. 
I've got no extra release time 

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for this whatsoever. 
Why do we have to do all this on

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our own time? 
I hate this. 

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I feel like the worst person in 
the world. 

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No point to this post, really 
just event and to the people who

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resigned this week, you made a 
good decision, you never miss a 

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birthday or for important family
occasion again. 

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So, this person was rattled well
annoyed and I don't blame him. 

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They spent on Whole half term 
working like solid Days by looks

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a bit and then missed an 
important event. 

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How's that make you feel? 
Yeah. 

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I'm trying to you know, not that
my blood pressure go through the

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roof in this podcast anymore. 
I'm gonna I'm gonna try to be 

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more level-headed here and maybe
come back with. 

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Not, I completely sympathize 
with his person but like almost 

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like a reports that say, what 
this is Jen I genuinely would 

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love to know this. 
And I'm not saying that she is 

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or he has made this up, but what
on Earth was being planned for 

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four whole days? 
In a row. 

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I think like a lot of time, I 
know I'm the same and so I try 

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not to moan too much when this 
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happens, it might take me, let's
say, two days to get a History 

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unit plan, right? 
Mmm. 

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Or let's say, three days even. 
And that would mean that I start

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in the mundane if it gets 
finished in the Wednesday but by

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no means do, I spend eight hours
each day constantly planning, if

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you know what I mean. 
Yeah. 

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But I guess that it's a school. 
That isn't it because we've got 

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we're aware a biggest school. 
If you think about someone like 

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Sophie from last week, Imagine 
imagine you had history to do, 

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which two days, but you also had
geography and Science and re, 

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and then masks and yeah, full 
from scratch. 

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My point. 
Here, is my point here is that, 

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you know, I might go for 
breakfast on the Monday, come 

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back at 12, do two hours work, 
then was something else. 

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And I are doing our hours work 
later and it's actually three 

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hours of work like it, but I've 
had managed to have a day apart 

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from that. 
Now, if it's four solid days of 

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planning, then I don't 
understand that whatsoever 

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because he's like, just 
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you're getting ahead for the 
whole time ahead. 

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Can't sustain that for out the 
throughout every single week in 

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time because you're literally at
work. 

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I've just saying II am 
interested to like dive deeper 

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into these things because that 
sounds crazy. 

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Like that's almost so crazy. 
That it's gone past the point 

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where I'm like, well can you 
explain that? 

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Because I can't even fathom that
my did say for four days is 

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half-time writing reports and 
planning to be fair. 

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So I imagine a big bulk of that.
Four days was report writing. 

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I don't know. 
And you know what, as you know, 

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while no Hayden, we're going to 
come onto this discussion in a 

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lot more. 
A lot more deeply in our Our big

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chunk of this episode, but the, 
I think that term between tan 

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five and six that half-time, for
a lot of teachers point of view 

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is completely written off like 
that. 

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There is, I don't know any 
teachers, really whoever plan to

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really do anything in that time 
because of the looming reports 

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and and it takes up such a big 
time, big chunk of time in that 

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kind of week off. 
Yeah, I would say in general it 

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that is that it's crazy, it's 
frustrating, isn't it? 

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When workload gets to that point
and the reason I'm interested in

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Diving into more about the 
intricacies of that is because I

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want to find a solution. 
Well, we've said this before 

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million times, haven't, even 
when someone comes to us with a 

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problem, you know, sometimes 
they just want empathy and a 

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shoulder to cry on maybe your 
lights or someone say. 

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Oh, that must be difficult. 
Whereas I know, we're very much 

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learning to do that, but my 
first thought is always, can I 

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solve this problem? 
Okay, break it down for me. 

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Exactly like what? 
What what on Earth is going on? 

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Where you've got to do that much
work in your week off because it

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completely goes against what 
everyone says about teaching. 

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Where you get all that time off 
was like, well, this person 

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doesn't kinda missed. 
Johannah's birthday like it 

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literally not gone out to do the
events that you. 

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The things you plan for that 
day. 

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If your partner's birthday in a 
half term week like is the 

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literal week. 
I've this post I think was on a 

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Sunday by the way. 
So it was the last day of the 

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half term. 
That was he just like, thinking?

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This is my last day. 
I have to get this work done, 

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but I do know I don't about you,
but I just maybe just says what 

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about me? 
No way. 

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I just wouldn't do it either. 
Like, cool, that works. 

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Not getting done, then, don't 
care. 

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Don't care. 
I'm going out for the day, it's 

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my partner's birthday. 
I'm not missing it. 

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So if someone knows about not 
getting there, Tough, I'll get 

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another week like that's 
genuinely my attitude towards 

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that, but maybe that's not the 
same everybody, I don't know, I 

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don't know, I think there's like
not even a middle ground, 

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there's a ground way closer to 
what you are, which is where 

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most people should be but I did 
I'd be interested in knowing the

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ins and outs of that because I 
want to know what had to be 

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planned for four full days. 
I guess it's reports as well. 

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Like the saying it is 
frustrating, but I'm not going 

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to my personal view on this and 
it's got against what I always 

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say, I suppose and I think it 
probably Oops, that our school, 

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we have an extra week off in 
this in this time and I can kind

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of say well that's extra to 
everyone because we are in sets 

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together. 
I can justify spending a lot of 

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time on work and that week 
because that makes more sense. 

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I'm getting paid basically for 
those insect days but I think on

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the whole of the 13 weeks off 
that we get, I don't mind having

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to cordon off two or three weeks
of that in total to be doing 

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work person. 
I don't know. 

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Yeah, I think that's the way one
because I think I do, I think I 

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do mind. 
I'm like, nah, I want I want all

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13 weeks of them. 
I don't like the idea that in 

452
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,900
any capacity that is even 
remotely hinted at that. 

453
00:20:28,900 --> 00:20:32,300
The expectation of me working in
those weeks off, I get it. 

454
00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:34,400
Like I actually don't mind it. 
I know he's saying like I don't 

455
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,200
mind doing a couple of weeks but
I don't agree with it if that 

456
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,100
makes sense. 
So what do you know? 

457
00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:42,000
Because it is my opinion on this
is really interesting. 

458
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,000
Now because finally finding 
something we might disagree 

459
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,600
about on and when it comes to 
holidays and it's built in that 

460
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,900
we get 13 weeks off, right? 
Yeah, but I think that's because

461
00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:58,300
that that is the reason why 
partly in a less like let's just

462
00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:00,900
say suspicious view of the 
establishment saying that we 

463
00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:03,100
have to do work outside of our 
working hours, right? 

464
00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:06,300
I think that's part of the 
balance there of that being in 

465
00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:11,500
our contract of, okay, you know,
you work 195 days a year and you

466
00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:15,600
have this Time from whenever 
director time, but you have to 

467
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,400
do some work outside of it, to 
to meet the standard of the job.

468
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,800
To me, that is a fair 
assumption. 

469
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,400
That will be using a fair chunk 
of that 13 weeks off to 

470
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,900
counterbalance that. 
I don't think it should be an 

471
00:21:27,900 --> 00:21:30,400
unhealthy amount. 
And, and the problem comes, when

472
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,500
there's no set amount. 
You know, some people might say 

473
00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:36,100
3/4, some people might say one 
quarter half, there's no set, 

474
00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:39,400
healthy amount in there, but 
from my perspective, I'm willing

475
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,400
to, to say some of those 13 
weeks will be A put towards that

476
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,500
part of that contract, that I 
agreed to think it becomes 

477
00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:49,300
unhealthy, when it's the weekly 
grind doing work every single 

478
00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:50,400
Sunday. 
Yeah. 

479
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,900
I think that, you know, that 
balance is really important and 

480
00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:56,400
I think there is no balance, 
which is the problem, but I 

481
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,400
think doing some work and a 
significant chunk of work. 

482
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,300
Outside of school is actually 
acceptable. 

483
00:22:02,300 --> 00:22:04,300
I just think the scales gone way
too far. 

484
00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:07,000
Yeah, you kind of said my 
counter-arguments off towards 

485
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,100
the end of your point, really, 
which was literally just going 

486
00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:13,000
to be. 
I do get that but the Reality is

487
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,700
that, you know, what, whatever 
you said. 

488
00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:16,800
So let's say we accept that 
maybe like three weeks of those 

489
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,600
13 weeks is like an acceptable 
amount. 

490
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,300
It's like I'm already doing 
those three extra weeks in my 

491
00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:25,300
free time on weekends and 
evenings with in term time 

492
00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:27,000
anyway. 
So when it gets to the holidays,

493
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,800
it's like cool. 
You already owe me those three 

494
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,400
weeks because I've literally 
done them on top of the director

495
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,200
time. 
I was supposed to do. 

496
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,800
Anyway. 
So that's kind of why I'm just 

497
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,600
like. 
Now I want all 13 weeks. 

498
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,600
I think we worked out in the 
different episode, I can't, but 

499
00:22:38,608 --> 00:22:42,000
the hours were I'm sure we 
worked out that the hours we do.

500
00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:46,100
In with the whole 13 weeks off, 
it still adds up to around about

501
00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:49,200
if not a bit more than the 
average working hours of a job 

502
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,100
in a year anyway. 
And that was I can't remember we

503
00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:54,200
based it on I think if we based 
it on the assumption that we do 

504
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,100
do a few like hours on a weekend
or whether we just did it on 

505
00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:58,800
like a nine to follow now. 
So I wasn't. 

506
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,200
Yeah. 
The the fact was for anyone who 

507
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,600
missed the episode the amount of
hours we put into the job just 

508
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,400
from doing the job. 
As in we get into school at 

509
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,100
7:30, but we don't get into 
school at night. 

510
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,900
We can spot have 70. 
We leave at about five, add up 

511
00:23:14,900 --> 00:23:16,700
all of those at times. 
All of those clubs, we might 

512
00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:18,100
have to do all the parents 
evenings. 

513
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,300
We left out the whole planning 
so like planning wasn't wasn't 

514
00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:24,200
in that time. 
So I need extra planning we do 

515
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,600
was on top of a full-time job 
and I think actually we agree on

516
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,600
the on the basics here like I 
think that it's acceptable to do

517
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,700
some work in that time, but I 
also completely agree that the 

518
00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:39,400
fact we do so much work. 
Every single Will we get extra 

519
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,500
does kind of foster that 
environment. 

520
00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:44,200
Okay well where's this line in a
broken line where this is 

521
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,900
acceptable? 
Yeah that's a bit because I 

522
00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:48,800
think I agree in the summer 
holidays I think it's acceptable

523
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,600
that I'll do a week of work in 
preparation before September 

524
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,100
because it's a brand new year. 
Of course I need. 

525
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:55,300
I course I need to be prepared. 
I can't go in day one with these

526
00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:58,100
new kids and know nothing about 
them, have nothing planned. 

527
00:23:58,300 --> 00:24:00,600
So I do think it's acceptable 
that I do some work to do before

528
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:01,500
that. 
I just don't think it's 

529
00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:03,400
acceptable that I then work 
every weekend and evening in 

530
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,900
that term it's kind of like one 
of them needs to go and it 

531
00:24:05,900 --> 00:24:07,400
should probably be the one 
that's impacting. 

532
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,600
Our son, like a daily. 
Has not the one where actually 

533
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,700
you had five weeks off to relax 
now. 

534
00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:14,800
You're well ready to do some 
work that I get it? 

535
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,400
That's probably the one that 
should stay if anything because 

536
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,400
it is a lot of holiday. 
Yeah. 

537
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,800
Because again, if you think 
about it, it's it's almost it's 

538
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,500
six separate chunks of holiday, 
right? 

539
00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:24,700
If I got that wrong, or is it 
7:00? 

540
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,100
You must be seven missing it. 
So, summer halftime one, 

541
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:33,500
Christmas half-term Easter half 
term and some arrogant no.6 

542
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,100
summer, I guess 06:06. 
And if you think about a regular

543
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:41,000
job, I bet most people don't get
six chunks off. 

544
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,100
Work every week every year. 
Sorry so like for example the 

545
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:46,800
part of the overall point, I 
guess I'm making here is that 

546
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,300
when it comes to town 56 and we 
have this, you know need to do 

547
00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:53,800
reports I think it's widely 
accepted that okay, that week, 

548
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,800
you know, bit of a write-off, 
get the report stunk at the 

549
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,200
planning done. 
But I've got six weeks at the 

550
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,500
end of this chunk and ends up 
being that you work for 1213 

551
00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:02,800
weeks in a row, which is a slog 
in teaching. 

552
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,200
We know that I completely agree 
with you, then you get five 

553
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,300
weeks off, you know, before you 
go ADI up week of work before 

554
00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:08,900
you go back. 
Like you said, there's just a 

555
00:25:08,908 --> 00:25:11,100
middle ground and we're nowhere 
near that middle ground. 

556
00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:12,900
Absolutely. 
And I completely sympathize with

557
00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:16,600
this person because I'm almost 
Playing devil's advocate here of

558
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,600
suggesting that it's acceptable 
but it's acceptable in 

559
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,000
isolation. 
It's not acceptable in the 

560
00:25:21,008 --> 00:25:22,700
reality of what we're doing. 
I completely agree. 

561
00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:24,200
Yeah. 
And also that the my last point 

562
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,000
on this is just that and I 
always find is hard to grasp 

563
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,400
like I don't like this is just 
how unregulated the system is. 

564
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,400
I don't I don't like the fact 
that it is genuinely a gamble as

565
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,300
to what school you end up 
getting a job in. 

566
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,400
As to how much of your life will
just be taken up by it. 

567
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,500
That's so true. 
Like I don't work in that 

568
00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:43,900
person's school-wide is. 
I didn't spend five days working

569
00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:48,000
over the half term got paid 
exactly the same though assuming

570
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,200
that you know it's just pretend 
we're on the same page point in 

571
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,400
our scale. 
Cool, Lego you just what you 

572
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,100
just got. 
You just didn't get paid to do 

573
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:56,800
five days worth. 
I didn't do so bad luck. 

574
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,700
Do let me know what part is. 
So ridiculous that that's just 

575
00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:02,900
the state that it's in or bad 
luck, but you go to Tesco and 

576
00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:05,900
then in like one store, you work
twice the hours for the same 

577
00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:08,300
money as an Other side is that 
it's not going to happen, like 

578
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,600
it's regulated completely. 
So that it's fair across the 

579
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,900
trade is fair. 
I'll come back on that really 

580
00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:16,300
quick because we both worked in 
the supermarket and I completely

581
00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:19,000
agree with you but the there is 
always imbalances even in jobs 

582
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,400
like that because I worked as 
that and I very quickly realized

583
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,700
that I could work as hard as 
possible, and get paid the same 

584
00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:28,000
as someone who did nothing for 
their whole shift. 

585
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,900
And, and there was that there 
was there was that but imbalance

586
00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:34,300
in that job, as well as I wait, 
I'm breaking my back side here 

587
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,200
to get this like, you know, get 
these Cages out on the shop 

588
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,900
floor, someone's done, one cage,
and the same time, it's going to

589
00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:42,400
chat with someone for an hour. 
We got the same pay packet at 

590
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,100
the end, you know. 
And that inequality kind of 

591
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:47,500
drives that resentment, doesn't 
it? 

592
00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:48,800
And that's where we're at were 
teaching right now. 

593
00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:50,500
At least that's the same in 
quality every job. 

594
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,900
Yeah. 
But the point I'm making, I 

595
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:56,100
suppose, is that, I felt that 
resentment there as well in 

596
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:57,700
that. 
In that respect, I don't think 

597
00:26:57,700 --> 00:27:00,800
that resentment for, you know, 
between people doing the same 

598
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,700
job is something that's 
exclusive to teaching. 

599
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:05,400
I just think it's a completely 
different environment where you 

600
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,100
know it affects You even more 
because like you said that's 

601
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:09,900
like, on the job, how hard you 
work in? 

602
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,800
This is like, cool. 
Do I need to literally plow 

603
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,700
extra hours in? 
And I think the one thing that's

604
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:17,400
transformed for me a lot and you
maybe could say your opinion on 

605
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:25,300
this afterwards is the hours and
hours extra where it feels like,

606
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,100
you're not getting paid like 
the, the option is okay. 

607
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:32,600
I could not do this and it would
just get done at another point 

608
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,200
or I could put three hours into 
this, you know, unit of work. 

609
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,100
Half an hour and and very and 
now I'm just like cool that turn

610
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:44,300
off hours if I was paid, you 
know, if I'll pay had been kept 

611
00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:48,600
up with, you know, the rate of 
it was 20 years ago, where it 

612
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,500
was like a livable wage for you 
and your partner, like you could

613
00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:53,300
actually raise a family on a 
teacher's salary. 

614
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,700
Now, you're scraping to buy a 
house still and it's just like 

615
00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:59,800
cool. 
I'm not in the position where I 

616
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,400
feel like I want to accept that.
So I'm not going to do it 

617
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,300
anymore. 
And, you know, it's a tough job 

618
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:07,400
and lots of people have tough 
jobs and lots of people on less 

619
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,200
money, but it's a relevant to me
because I'm not cool. 

620
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,500
Well, why should I put in that 
extra five hours a week? 

621
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,600
Am I a chump? 
Like it was nice when I passed? 

622
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,600
Yes, I'm a chump. 
Now, I find that people earlier 

623
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,400
in their career just in general,
I'm just generalizing now, it's 

624
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,300
not always true but generally 
people earlier in their career 

625
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:29,700
in teaching do put the hard slog
in, you know, they do they do 

626
00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:31,900
the serious hours. 
I remember doing any. 

627
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:35,100
We both did it. 
We were exactly the same and I 

628
00:28:35,108 --> 00:28:38,900
think I was in my first. 
First or second year and I spoke

629
00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:40,700
to my Deputy head of the time 
because I was just getting 

630
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:42,800
stressed. 
Like, I just literally, I 

631
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,000
couldn't keep up with the amount
of work that I was putting 

632
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,900
myself under as well. 
And that's really important 

633
00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:51,700
because I was trying to do 
everything at 110%, like, 

634
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:54,800
everything had to be incredible.
All of my lessons took me two 

635
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,500
hours to plan a lesson. 
Everything I was marking was 

636
00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:00,500
like, Mark to the nth degree. 
Every single like everything was

637
00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:01,900
just over the top and I was 
like, cool. 

638
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:04,100
This is completely unmanageable.
Like I don't understand how am I

639
00:29:04,108 --> 00:29:06,600
supposed to do this job? 
Like really well, which I want 

640
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,800
to do and I just broke down to 
my Deputy head of the time and 

641
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,200
and, and he was just like, yeah,
just don't do it and he wasn't, 

642
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,800
he wasn't being like, Oh, yeah, 
it's don't do it. 

643
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,700
My whatever he was being really 
genuine and I was sort of like 

644
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:22,500
this, my Deputy head, like my 
someone, I expect to tell me to 

645
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:25,000
get everything done properly, 
and he's like, don't do it. 

646
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:26,900
And I was like, I need to get 
this done and this time I've got

647
00:29:26,908 --> 00:29:28,700
another all these Mass things to
sort out as well. 

648
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:30,500
Now that I've been trapped, on 
top of me, and I've still got 

649
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:33,300
that the Mark, he's like, don't 
do it as I can't. 

650
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:35,000
Just not do. 
It was like he can and if 

651
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,500
someone really needs it, they'll
email you then for it and then 

652
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:39,900
you can do it. 
I know another time I didn't 

653
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:43,200
really understand but it's all 
man, it changed my life really 

654
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,700
thinking about it resonated with
me a lot over the years because 

655
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:47,200
I was like yeah but you know 
what is so true? 

656
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,200
Everyone so urgent, everyone 
needs things, urgently done for 

657
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,900
them and everyone and meet, you 
know last-minute goes oh this 

658
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:54,300
needs to be done. 
Now you can you do this report 

659
00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:55,300
for me? 
Because I've got this meeting 

660
00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:56,800
tomorrow. 
No. 

661
00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:01,300
We can do. 
Oh, this is so bad, but it's 

662
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:02,100
like. 
Yeah, cool. 

663
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:04,400
Okay, nice. 
It's a home power. 

664
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:06,700
Yeah, I agree. 
It's the power of prioritization

665
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,800
and it's hilarious because we 
have mocked this like endlessly 

666
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,900
before and so I just go home. 
Yeah, well, I've got two markets

667
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:15,400
on the policy I'll get into 
trouble otherwise. 

668
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,000
I think like what you're saying 
is is more of a mindset shift 

669
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,900
rather than an individual basis 
of well just don't mark it. 

670
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:23,500
Yeah, we're not saying not 
Somali. 

671
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:29,000
It's a very generic kind of like
a - Mindful state to be in in 

672
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,500
the job, which is it's okay to 
not get everything done in the 

673
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:37,800
time frame that you self imposed
on yourself and, and that kind 

674
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,600
of Self in position, you know, 
are you going to let some people

675
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,900
down sometimes maybe, you know, 
in a certain respect because 

676
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,000
someone might need something 
from you. 

677
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:51,400
We're okay, fair enough. 
But that means I need to work 

678
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,100
until eight tonight and I'm 
going to say no, because I'm 

679
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:57,700
going to put myself first before
that person that person The fill

680
00:30:57,700 --> 00:31:00,100
that down may have not had 
something from you, but, you 

681
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:02,200
know, maybe next time that 
person will ask it from you, two

682
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,100
days early, you know, give you a
chance to do it or think about. 

683
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:06,900
Okay. 
I need this from this person. 

684
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:09,900
How can I get it from them 
about, you know, damaging their 

685
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,100
health in or, you know, their 
their mindset. 

686
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:17,100
And I think this is a really 
powerful thing for especially 

687
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:19,700
leaders to do and I know, we're 
not school leaders, you know, we

688
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:22,200
leave the subject, we did a 
quick, we did Mass, right, but 

689
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,000
there's little things that I'm 
quite mindful of is not taking 

690
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,000
advantage. 
Vantage of the people who will 

691
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,500
say yes, in those situations. 
Because although we're very much

692
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:34,700
of the mindset of I know, just 
don't do it. 

693
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,700
We know, don't we Hayden a lot 
of teachers who are so lovely 

694
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:44,000
and put everything into this job
still and will not say no and 

695
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,500
will impose work on themselves 
to deadlines, they've set 

696
00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:49,400
themselves and end up working 
almost every evening because 

697
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,100
they want to get this done, want
to get that done. 

698
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:55,200
And I think what leaders need to
do is kind of Step In sometimes 

699
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,200
and say, look take a break, 
we're not going. 

700
00:31:57,300 --> 00:32:00,500
Expect this from you. 
I'm actively saying don't do 

701
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:03,200
this thing that you've planned 
to do for two hours every night 

702
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,000
this week because you want to 
get it done by next week. 

703
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,200
Let's shift this target into 
next term have a break. 

704
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:13,000
I expect you to only get these 
things done, which then I think 

705
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,500
if leaders take the active step,
I think people will be less 

706
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:19,500
anxious and feel like they've 
got to go over and above every 

707
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:22,000
single week at the detriment of 
their own stress and the hell, 

708
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,100
if I think that's a really 
powerful thing people can do, I 

709
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:29,200
know a lot of teachers right now
who Who honestly work every 

710
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,200
evening of the week genuinely 
work, every single evening of 

711
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,200
the week, and usually half a day
or a day of the weekend, as 

712
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,100
well. 
So, I really hope I really hope 

713
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:39,200
things. 
Get better for those people, and

714
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,700
I do agree that it has to be top
down. 

715
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:45,000
It has to be not, everyone is 
going to be like, nah, I'm not 

716
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,500
doing it. 
My life is no one. 

717
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,600
Not everyone is going to be 
comfortable with knowing 

718
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,800
actively knowing that actually 
just gonna let someone down, 

719
00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:54,100
it's like, yeah, you gave me 
this deadline but cool. 

720
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,600
You've I've got seven other jobs
that you've also given me. 

721
00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:58,200
Me. 
So I'm only doing three of them 

722
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,400
because that's all I can do in 
this time. 

723
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,900
So tough not. 
Everyone's going to have that 

724
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:03,900
confidence to do that so you 
know, leaders. 

725
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,700
Come on, we need to foster a 
better workplace for people to 

726
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:11,300
feel less anxious, less less 
overworked. 

727
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,900
Well, this this is your this 
kind of evolved into a little 

728
00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:17,000
chat there, didn't it? 
And that felt really good. 

729
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:20,700
I think what we're going to do 
then because it leads perfectly 

730
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:23,700
on to a raging debate, in the 
minute. 

731
00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:27,900
Education-wise I think that we 
hadn't are going to play the 

732
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:29,700
little jingle and you're going 
to go get a cup of tea and the 

733
00:33:29,708 --> 00:33:32,300
three seconds. 
So I'm going to say the same 

734
00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:34,400
joke for six weeks in a row 
because that's our personality 

735
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,200
becomes s for something to get 
bored of it and then we'll 

736
00:33:36,208 --> 00:33:39,100
replace it with something in a 
few weeks, you know, diagnosis 

737
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:41,700
as you will, but I'll see you 
again for seconds. 

738
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,500
In the last couple of weeks 
because of reports and the 

739
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,500
future job teaches have to 
produce them. 

740
00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:56,100
There's been a bit of a raging 
debate because there's also been

741
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:59,200
a huge development in technology
and now Hayden we're talking 

742
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,100
about AR it, what does it say? 
I stand for in artificial 

743
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,600
intelligence, of course, I 
really hoped we'd like two 

744
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,200
seconds on the spot you thought 
of something funny. 

745
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,100
But now you're right. 
Artificial intelligence. 

746
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:12,800
And anyone who has been online, 
I'm sure has In something about 

747
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,900
it. 
You know we've got Photoshop now

748
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:17,699
has a I where you can generate 
the rest of a photo, it can fix 

749
00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:20,300
it for you automatically. 
And the idea is that artificial 

750
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:23,000
intelligence is kind of The Next
Step, isn't it in technology? 

751
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,699
It's something that learns by 
itself and kind of develops by 

752
00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:29,800
itself and it's therefore quite 
controversial, especially 

753
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,000
because you may have seen in the
news if you read for example on 

754
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,800
BBC online, there's been a few 
articles in the last few weeks 

755
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:42,100
of the founders of various AI 
systems, almost warning, the 

756
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:44,600
world. 
That this could get out of hand,

757
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,800
you know, very quickly that 
these Bots learn exponentially 

758
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,100
they're going to become super 
intelligent super quick and they

759
00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:54,699
kind of were, you know, 
canvassing for a bit of a pause 

760
00:34:54,699 --> 00:34:56,900
on the development of the 
technology as a whole. 

761
00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:00,600
Now that's a whole nother 
debate, whether you know, AI in 

762
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,200
general, is going to take over 
the world or not, but we're 

763
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,000
Hayden. 
I found something really 

764
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,700
interesting is an entire debate 
around report writing and 

765
00:35:10,700 --> 00:35:13,200
different AI tools that we have.
Available to us now. 

766
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,200
So Hayden do you want to kick us
off and just kind of summarize 

767
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,300
what is the debate and you know 
what's the general consensus? 

768
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:21,200
But yeah sure so I would I would
just clarify as well. 

769
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,600
The AI that we're talking about 
is essentially it is essentially

770
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,300
a glorified and very very very 
good language model. 

771
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:31,600
That's what it is. 
It's really really good at 

772
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,600
producing pieces of text. 
So there's one that's been 

773
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,500
created the most part of popular
teaching related one. 

774
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:40,300
Right now I'm going to read out 
a little Anonymous post actually

775
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:42,000
for you because this kind of 
summarizes the debate. 

776
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,700
Someone put this on in a 
Facebook group and obviously 

777
00:35:45,700 --> 00:35:48,300
they put thoughts on a, i 
generated report comments. 

778
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,800
Dot dot dot. 
I've looked at teach may I from 

779
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,300
mr. 
P. 

780
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:54,500
And it looks fantastic. 
Had a very brief chat with my 

781
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,200
head teacher. 
And I've been told that it is 

782
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,500
both morally and ethically wrong
to use AI for anything in 

783
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:03,400
school. 
This person has put, I 

784
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,000
personally do not agree with 
this as I see it as a way of 

785
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,700
saving valuable time. 
What are people's thoughts? 

786
00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:11,300
Can you tell if a report has 
been written by a teacher or a? 

787
00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:15,300
I, if it uses These prompts that
are input by the teacher and 

788
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:17,300
that sparked a really, really 
big discussion. 

789
00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:21,000
And that's essentially captures.
I think the debate in hand here 

790
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:27,300
is, is it acceptable to use AI 
to help you write reports? 

791
00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:35,700
Yes, thanks for listening, guys.
I'll catch you again now. 

792
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:39,300
I think, you know I'm no 
stranger to an opinion hen. 

793
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:43,300
I think that it is absolutely 
fine. 

794
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,800
I think that there is no problem
morally or ethically. 

795
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,300
And I do think that someone 
imposing that view on someone 

796
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:56,400
else is being quite dramatic. 
And I think if the head had said

797
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,500
that to me, if I'd gone in 
there, Asked about it. 

798
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,300
Then first, I wouldn't have 
asked, I would have just made 

799
00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:03,600
them and then they would never 
have known. 

800
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,300
And secondly, if they said, it's
- oh cool. 

801
00:37:06,300 --> 00:37:08,400
Okay. 
So do I get time to write these 

802
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,900
bespoke lie then and see what 
they say, I'd also ask them 

803
00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:14,100
Hayden. 
Can I use a comment bank because

804
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,400
very common. 
You, I had it in secondary 

805
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,000
school as well. 
I literally had a report once 

806
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,900
which had someone else's name in
it where they copied in a 

807
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:25,100
comment and forgot to swap the 
name, very common strategy when 

808
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:27,600
it comes to writing reports. 
I think there's a whole host of 

809
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,800
reasons. 
But yeah, we did a poll that we 

810
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,700
hate it. 
Yes. 

811
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,300
So on a teaching. 
So you started by this does kind

812
00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:36,700
of two elements of this because 
I sort of jumped in afterwards 

813
00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:38,100
as well because I wanted more 
information. 

814
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,400
So you did a poll. 
Basically saying, hey, everyone 

815
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,500
in this big teacher group is it 
is acceptable to use chat GPT 

816
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:50,600
which is a very popular AI 
language model at the moment to 

817
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,500
write reports and you did 
specify to be fair and you did 

818
00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:57,500
say there will be specific 
inputs for the child from, from 

819
00:37:57,500 --> 00:38:00,200
the teacher. 
But the A, I would generate the,

820
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,100
like, actual paragraph for you 
and the data that we got from 

821
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:06,800
that, at least from when I last 
looked at it, was nine percent 

822
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,200
of people said, of course, it's 
okay to use a, I just flat. 

823
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,700
Okay. 86 percent of people on 
your poll said, yes. 

824
00:38:13,700 --> 00:38:16,900
But with editing / specific 
input for that for each child, 

825
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:18,700
which makes sense. 
I think that's what everyone's 

826
00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:21,000
doing anyway. 
And then five percent of people 

827
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,000
was just put flat-out should not
be used. 

828
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:26,600
So I I then wanted to get more 
information from these people. 

829
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,600
So I put a post up saying, Would
anyone be interested like be 

830
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,400
available? 
So just chat basically, and let 

831
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,000
me know why you think it's not 
acceptable to use AI. 

832
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:40,300
Got this is hilarious because I 
feel like we're going back to 

833
00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:42,000
Our Roots here. 
We're going back to episode 1 

834
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,600
where we did a bit of role play 
strikes, because we both 

835
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,800
obviously thought striking was 
the right action to take, so we 

836
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,900
had to cut to make up these 
characters to be true. 

837
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,800
So, I think, first thing I want 
to say before you carry on 

838
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,900
Hayden, is just point people in 
the direction of the fact that 

839
00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:58,200
over 90% of people 
overwhelmingly. 

840
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,900
And there were over 400 votes in
this, in this poll saying that 

841
00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:05,900
they think it's acceptable to 
use as a tool which I'm glad of,

842
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,100
but yay. 
I'm very interested to hear, 

843
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:13,200
then those people who are 
against AI, what they're kind of

844
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,500
what their views were what their
reasons. 

845
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:18,200
Why is to say not only is it not
okay? 

846
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,700
Or not only will, I not use it, 
but I don't think anyone should 

847
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:22,000
use. 
I think that's quite a big jump 

848
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,000
then. 
Okay. 

849
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,600
Well, I've actually had a really
nice conversation with someone 

850
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,000
who said they wouldn't mind if I
sort of talked about this. 

851
00:39:28,300 --> 00:39:30,000
So I'm just going to read off a 
little bit, like just paraphrase

852
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,200
some of their answers. 
That's right. 

853
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,800
And you can kind of maybe come 
back at them with your thoughts.

854
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,400
So this person said they're 
really lovely by the way, really

855
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,900
polite. 
And they said lo I know, I'm a 

856
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:40,100
bit with maybe I'm a bit of a 
dinosaur but I just this is just

857
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:44,200
my opinion on things and and 
their overarching point really 

858
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,300
was in primary school. 
You know, we spend so much time 

859
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:50,900
with these children's on a like 
on a personal level in some 

860
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:53,900
cases like even more time than 
they do with their parents, in 

861
00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:57,200
those sort of, you know, 
personal situations and and you 

862
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,900
see hundreds of personal 
anecdotes across the year and 

863
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:02,800
she fills, it is part of her 
job. 

864
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:07,400
It is part of her role to then 
kind of collate and share some 

865
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,500
of those Beautiful memories. 
Now that those that have 

866
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:12,700
happened across the year that 
their parents didn't get to be a

867
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:16,300
part of with the parents via 
parents evenings, but also 

868
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:18,900
written reports and they will, 
they were really, really 

869
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:22,300
passionate about this idea that 
it should. 

870
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,900
The comments should be super 
personal and include, you know, 

871
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:30,600
really little things of about 
that child than a, I would never

872
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,300
be able to generate from any 
prompt because they're, you 

873
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:35,500
know, again because that 
anecdotes because their stories 

874
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:38,500
their moments that actually 
happened in the Year not just 

875
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:41,000
generic, like, did well in this.
Can't do this. 

876
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,500
So that's the first point I want
to make. 

877
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,900
Yeah, it's interesting because 
to me, I guess this comes down 

878
00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:52,900
to a i as a generated. 
Prompt is as good as what you 

879
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:56,000
put into it. 
And I don't think that using AI 

880
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,400
is what some people see, as is 
like a, just get out of jail, 

881
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,800
free cards. 
Like you can just generate a 

882
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,800
report in three minutes because 
I absolutely don't think that's 

883
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,300
possible using AI, because 
you've got to be really 

884
00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:09,500
specific. 
You've got to write individual 

885
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:11,400
prompts for every single child 
put in. 

886
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,500
Six, seven, eight bullet points.
One of them could be the 

887
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:16,200
anecdote. 
And what I found was really 

888
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,000
powerful was for the generic way
of wording things so that you 

889
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,100
don't word it in the same way 
every single child. 

890
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:25,500
But behaves in a similar 
situation, I thought that, you 

891
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:29,600
know, chat GPT was a really good
way of kind of generating new 

892
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,500
ways of getting things across in
a very formal manner. 

893
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,000
That's property, you know, 
written in a way that's suitable

894
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,000
for a report, but then once it's
generated copying, it into word 

895
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:42,100
diving in and adding those 
anecdotes and Those little 

896
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:44,900
little tiny things in there 
without having to worry about 

897
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,900
how to word something and how 
for it to flow. 

898
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,300
I think they're two separate 
things. 

899
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:52,000
I don't necessarily think AI 
equals not personal. 

900
00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:55,900
I think the way you use it as a 
tool is going to be really 

901
00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:58,200
important. 
I had another really really good

902
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,400
counter argument that I'm going 
to come to in a minute. 

903
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,100
So I'm not going to show it, 
share it with you just yet but 

904
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,300
it was the only one really that 
maybe go all you know when 

905
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:06,400
something makes you doubt 
yourself a bit but just staying 

906
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,900
on the point that you were just 
mentioning familiar. 

907
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:11,000
I played around with 
specifically that teach may I 

908
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,000
because I saw it was Popular and
I just wanted to see what it's 

909
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,700
all about. 
Obviously you've got chat GPT as

910
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:18,800
well which is, you know, a free 
model to use and and I because 

911
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:19,900
obviously we were writing our 
report. 

912
00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:22,800
So I had a play around with it 
as well just to see because my 

913
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,600
gut feeling was actually that 
it's not gonna be very good. 

914
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,700
I was thinking it's probably 
going to be like horribly and 

915
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:30,700
personal not written very well 
to the point where you have to 

916
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:33,800
edit it anyway and spend just as
much time on it but I'll be 

917
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,300
honest I think it took me twenty
five percent of the time as 

918
00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:41,200
normal and I genuinely think my 
comments were better and I'll 

919
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,500
just read He's right. 
A point you made because I'm a 

920
00:42:43,508 --> 00:42:47,400
human being under a time 
constraint I don't care how good

921
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,800
your school is. 
You're always going to be under 

922
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,900
a time constraint for reports. 
It is natural that you're going 

923
00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:54,700
to repeat the same comments and 
phrases for various children. 

924
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:56,600
Once you've written a, you know,
there's your writing the same 

925
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,500
report format 32 times, 
potentially, you're going to 

926
00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:01,700
start using the same phrases. 
You just not going to think of 

927
00:43:01,700 --> 00:43:05,800
32, different ways where they, I
was really good at creating 

928
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,600
unique sentences and paragraphs 
per child, based on my prompts. 

929
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:15,500
And I've actually I've Since 
then, I have put in some prompts

930
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:18,600
to teach my eye and I've just 
made it up because I don't want 

931
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,700
to share a real rapport with 
you. 

932
00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:23,000
But I would like to share with 
you a report that just before 

933
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,100
this podcast, I got the AI to 
write for you. 

934
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,900
And I'm going to tell you right 
now, neither of the other two 

935
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:31,600
examples, they both took less 
than 30 seconds to completely 

936
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,300
finish, right. 
And then we'll and then I'm 

937
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:34,700
going to make one final point 
after it's. 

938
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:36,600
So what I'm going to do is I'm 
going to share with you what I 

939
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,000
wrote in to the AI and then I'm 
going to show you what came out 

940
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,300
the other end, okay? 
Okay. 

941
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:44,200
So this this will be interesting
to see, like the amount you've 

942
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,400
input here because I think some 
people are worried and saying, 

943
00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:48,900
Jesse's a lovely girl. 
Works hard. 

944
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,200
You know, could improve next 
year by just paying attention 

945
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,600
more and hoping that it comes 
out of 200 words at the. 

946
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,300
Don't think that's what happens.
I'll show you. 

947
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,800
So, this one was a mass 
comments. 

948
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,600
I just made up a mass comment. 
Obviously, I used your name and 

949
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,800
all. 
I typed in the strength box, it 

950
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,100
doesn't have to be like, well, 
word, it is basically bullet 

951
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:05,300
points. 
You just type in your thoughts. 

952
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,700
I put in the strengths box, I 
put problem solving thinking, 

953
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:13,200
mathematically, longevity. 
A written calculations and 

954
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,700
methods was good at making 3D 
models. 

955
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:17,900
I'll try to think of it like a 
maybe an actual thing that that 

956
00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:20,800
that child was good at doing 
particular thing and needs 

957
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,400
Improvement. 
I put reading the time And I 

958
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,900
asked you to write me a really 
short on a 90. 

959
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:27,900
Word reports are just one 
paragraph and this is what he 

960
00:44:27,908 --> 00:44:31,300
wrote and I haven't edited it. 
So you can you can give me your 

961
00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:34,600
honest opinions. 
Dylan has displayed exceptional 

962
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,800
problem solving skills 
throughout the term and is able 

963
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,300
to think mathematically to 
arrive at practical Solutions. 

964
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:42,200
His longevity in the subject 
matter is impressive and he has 

965
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,500
excelled in written calculations
and methods. 

966
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,600
Dylan has also demonstrated a 
flair for Creative for creating 

967
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,700
three-dimensional models, 
showcasing his create creativity

968
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:54,500
in the process. 
However, it is noted that Dylan 

969
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:55,900
needs to work on reading the 
time. 

970
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,200
As this has been an area of 
weakness for him. 

971
00:44:58,700 --> 00:45:01,000
Overall, didn't has made 
significant progress, this term 

972
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,700
and has proven proven himself to
be a diligent and dedicated 

973
00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:08,600
student Yeah. 
I mean, so my initial reaction 

974
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,200
to that is there's nothing in 
there that you haven't 

975
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,300
personally written. 
There's nothing in there that 

976
00:45:13,300 --> 00:45:15,800
the AI is magically made up 
about this child, where suddenly

977
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,400
it's now an inaccurate report. 
It's a very useful report 

978
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:23,000
exactly what you put in. 
Just just composed in a way 

979
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,300
that's much more maybe formal 
than we could have written with 

980
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:29,300
less effort. 
I mean, for the time saved, are 

981
00:45:29,308 --> 00:45:32,200
we really saying that it's 
important as teachers? 

982
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,600
That the adult knows that we 
composed it ourselves. 

983
00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:38,200
We're signing off, and, what's 
going into the AI. 

984
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,400
We're literally putting the 
exact stories in. 

985
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:43,300
You could've had a lovely story 
there, like that woman's woman 

986
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:46,700
or man said about the, you know,
the individual stories from each

987
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:48,800
person that could have been a 
lesson, you remember. 

988
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,300
And they made this unbelievable 
3D model and went off and made 

989
00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:52,900
their own there, and it's magic 
story. 

990
00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:54,700
You want to share? 
And if you really wanted to 

991
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:56,600
share it, then cool for 30 
seconds after that was 

992
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,800
generated. 
If you thought that wasn't 

993
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,200
personal enough, spend two 
minutes, writing a bit of an 

994
00:46:00,207 --> 00:46:01,800
extension on that sentence. 
I agree. 

995
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,600
It's as personal as you want it 
to be. 

996
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:07,800
I don't think. 
The personable aspect of the 

997
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,200
report is an argument against it
that I really accept, to be 

998
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,100
honest. 
Yeah, I completely agree. 

999
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:16,500
I was actually about to say that
the beauty of the time-saving in

1000
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:19,300
that the fact that took me 30 
seconds to get to that point 

1001
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:22,900
means that now if I have taken 
notes because I'm one of those 

1002
00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:25,100
teachers that has taken notes 
and wants to get the anecdotes 

1003
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:27,500
in, it will take me like a 
minute or two to put the 

1004
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:30,300
anecdote in rather than 10 
minutes to create the hot you 

1005
00:46:30,308 --> 00:46:33,200
know craft the whole paragraph 
myself weaving, the anecdote 

1006
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,400
into a point a point which I 
feel is appropriate. 

1007
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:37,500
So I think People are missing a 
trick is what I want to say 

1008
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:39,300
here. 
I think people are way too 

1009
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:42,100
focused on these extreme ideas 
of. 

1010
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,800
Well, it's either a you write 
this beautifully bespoke report 

1011
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,200
that you could spend three hours
writing per child, and it's the 

1012
00:46:49,207 --> 00:46:52,600
most amazing thing that anyone's
ever read ever or be you could 

1013
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,900
tell ai6 things that a child can
do. 

1014
00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:57,500
And it will write this really 
generic impersonal thing for 

1015
00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:00,300
you. 
And it's like, what do you know 

1016
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:02,000
what? 
Neither of those are really an 

1017
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,600
acceptable reality. 
We cannot expect people to spend

1018
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,400
the time on making reports that 
this amazing as great as that 

1019
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,100
would be objectively and equally
anyone using AI. 

1020
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:14,900
I'm sure is still in putting 
enough into the AI, that it's 

1021
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:17,700
not a complete impersonal, like,
piece of drivel, it's just 

1022
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:20,200
saving them time and I'm not 
being funny. 

1023
00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:22,100
Who do we think we are as 
teachers that we're going to be 

1024
00:47:22,107 --> 00:47:24,800
able to craft this unbelievably 
written black, beautiful 

1025
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,600
paragraph. 
I'm sorry, it's not realistic. 

1026
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:29,400
After three hours of sat there, 
right in. 

1027
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,800
Do you think it's going to be 
something out of a beautiful 

1028
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,000
novel? 
Like, there is honestly don't 

1029
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,600
think that we could. 
Compose something better. 

1030
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,400
As in better quality written in 
terms of grammatical and 

1031
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,700
formality than that. 
AI Bots has. 

1032
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:46,200
The only difference we can have 
is that individual flare of a 

1033
00:47:46,207 --> 00:47:48,200
specific. 
Bespoke story that we want to 

1034
00:47:48,207 --> 00:47:50,000
get across in the way that we 
remember it. 

1035
00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:52,000
Then go in and edit it 
afterwards. 

1036
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,900
I think you're absolutely right.
There's no extras. 

1037
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:55,600
What's the point in being the 
extreme here. 

1038
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,800
So interestingly took some to 
come back completely on. 

1039
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,100
The first point you made there 
about who are we to create this 

1040
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:01,800
paragraph? 
One of the points someone gave 

1041
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,300
me on that thread that I put out
there. 

1042
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:06,600
Was it? 
Literally she Said, it's 

1043
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,800
insulting the idea that with 
like we're trained 

1044
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,200
professionals. 
We've been at University for 

1045
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,700
three years and write a degree 
level to think that we can't 

1046
00:48:13,700 --> 00:48:16,200
write these paragraphs ourselves
and we have to rely on AI to do 

1047
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,600
it for us. 
No, no, no, we don't rely, we 

1048
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,500
don't rely on it. 
Like, I'm pretty sure I could 

1049
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:25,700
sit there couldn't let this. 
It's not insulting, it's not 

1050
00:48:25,700 --> 00:48:29,600
insulting to say that a computer
is more able to access synonyms 

1051
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,800
faster than you is it insulting 
when we have to Google something

1052
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,400
when actually, oh well it's 
insulting suggest that I 

1053
00:48:35,408 --> 00:48:37,800
couldn't Go and find a book in 
the local library and find the 

1054
00:48:37,808 --> 00:48:39,300
answer. 
Well, no, of course you can. 

1055
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,100
But it's called time-saving, 
it's not, it's not insult to 

1056
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:44,400
suggest that Googling something 
is ridiculous. 

1057
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,000
It's part of the technological 
advances of the dime, we are 

1058
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,800
intelligent teachers, who are 
good at pedagogy or favorite 

1059
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,200
word is, I'm sorry. 
But when did the biggest part of

1060
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,100
our job become composing amazing
scent paragraphs to send to 

1061
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:00,500
parents like, of course, we know
how to do it. 

1062
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,900
I know how to do percentages. 
I don't not use a calculator. 

1063
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:07,200
Hmm. 
Is it wrong to use a calculator?

1064
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,700
How insulting I've got a 
master's degree in? 

1065
00:49:08,707 --> 00:49:10,000
You want me to put it into a 
calculator? 

1066
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:13,400
Yes, because it's quicker. 
I think I agree and my kind of 

1067
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,800
counter-argument to that person 
and I do get what they're saying

1068
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:17,600
that. 
I just don't think they're 

1069
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,200
looking at. 
If the right perspective, I 

1070
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,000
think they're I think they're 
not realizing that the reason 

1071
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,700
people are using AI is to save 
time, not because we can't. 

1072
00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:26,600
Right? 
That's, that's the wrong, the 

1073
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,400
wrong thing there, because if 
that's what they thought, I 

1074
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,500
would say to them. 
Cool. 

1075
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:31,900
I hope you've never downloaded a
PowerPoint for twinkle. 

1076
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:35,000
I hope you've naturally never 
taken a lesson slide. 

1077
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:37,700
From anybody else, because it's 
insulting to think you couldn't 

1078
00:49:37,700 --> 00:49:40,400
make them yourself. 
This type of course I can make 

1079
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,100
them myself but I don't want to 
sit there for three hours and 

1080
00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:44,500
make slides about Charles 
Darwin. 

1081
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:46,900
When there's some already made, 
I'm just going to grab them and 

1082
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:49,800
edit the bits. 
I need exactly the same process 

1083
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,700
is what I think we should do 
these reports. 

1084
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,000
I'm gonna get the bulk of it. 
Done to save my time, and I'm 

1085
00:49:55,008 --> 00:49:57,100
going to edit things in, right. 
Dylan, are you ready to be 

1086
00:49:57,100 --> 00:50:00,500
triggered? 
I'm ready, I'm ready to be not 

1087
00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:02,000
do trick. 
No, no, I'm not. 

1088
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,800
Because I'm calm and I'm a 
changed, man. 

1089
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,200
This, it's called the balance of
Dylan Hayden. 

1090
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,800
So by triggered. 
Okay, I'll change it out by 

1091
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,400
tricking. 
I meant ready to be triggered 

1092
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,900
into a conversation. 
Not, you know, triggerman not 

1093
00:50:13,900 --> 00:50:16,600
triggered. 
Mad, I listen, I love debating 

1094
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,300
things and I think I'm very 
black and white sometimes know. 

1095
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,100
I think sometimes I rub people 
up the wrong way, I'm not 

1096
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:24,200
surprised. 
I'm not trying to, I would be 

1097
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,800
happy for someone to be as blunt
back to me. 

1098
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,400
I'm just very interested. 
So, it's A comment but don't but

1099
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,700
don't but don't question me 
about you heard it here. 

1100
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:36,300
First, this was someone's 
comment and it was the first one

1101
00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:39,800
that made me for a moment. 
Go all but then I did have a 

1102
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,800
thought myself, but I reckon you
will have some interesting 

1103
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,600
thoughts on this. 
Someone said I'm going to skip 

1104
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,100
kind of the gunk really than get
to the point. 

1105
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:52,400
They just said, would you be 
happy for the report to be 

1106
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:57,600
signed off with your name and 
also augmented by AI or written 

1107
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,900
with the it's of a, I would you 
be happy for that to be at the 

1108
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:04,900
bottom of the report? 
And then their point was if you 

1109
00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:07,700
if you wouldn't then shouldn't 
that be a cause for you? 

1110
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:09,700
No concern. 
Shouldn't that be? 

1111
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:12,500
It shouldn't be a reason that 
you deep down you know it's not 

1112
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:17,400
right to be using AI. 
I think that's only a concern 

1113
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,000
for someone who cares about this
kind of thing I do. 

1114
00:51:20,008 --> 00:51:23,500
I think that's a concern for 
someone who is actively against 

1115
00:51:23,500 --> 00:51:25,300
AI. 
I don't think that's like a 

1116
00:51:25,300 --> 00:51:27,500
moral level for everyone in the 
planet. 

1117
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:30,600
Like, do we need to know if 
something wasn't completely 

1118
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,200
human made every single 
opportunity that we have. 

1119
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,000
I don't think we do. 
You know, when we submit our 

1120
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:38,200
accounts to like to the 
government? 

1121
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,600
Do we have to put augmented by 
QuickBooks at the bottom? 

1122
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,500
I mean, I maybe we do. 
I don't think we do though. 

1123
00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:44,700
I don't think no one cares 
because they've just been, you 

1124
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:47,800
know, If signed them off, you 
know it, okay, cool. 

1125
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,800
The computer helped us on this 
process, you know, the thesaurus

1126
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,500
on word helps me to write my 
book. 

1127
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:55,600
Mmm. 
The grammar check on grammarly, 

1128
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,200
helped me to make sure my essay 
was written, you know, 

1129
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,500
succinctly, do I wrote it off at
the end though and I said, cool,

1130
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,300
whatever this is. 
Yep. 

1131
00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:06,100
I'm going to put my name to that
because I accept everything 

1132
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:09,600
that's been written. 
Do you think that all 

1133
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,400
politicians, write their own 
speeches? 

1134
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,400
You know? 
Imagine a really powerful speech

1135
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,900
that if, you know, their teams 
put together for Them that they 

1136
00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:18,000
signed off because it's 
everything they agree with. 

1137
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,500
They deliver it amazing. 
The crowd of cheering at the 

1138
00:52:20,500 --> 00:52:23,500
end, brought to you by and then 
put 15 names of people who wrote

1139
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:24,600
it. 
It does don't. 

1140
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,100
I don't think that that's 
necessary. 

1141
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:30,300
I don't think that's like the 
winning argument that maybe it's

1142
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:33,700
being described as and as a 
point to begin with. 

1143
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:37,100
If someone was insistent that, I
put what I helped me, write it 

1144
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:38,600
then. 
I put it on there, I'm not even 

1145
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,400
against that. 
Yeah, that's fair enough. 

1146
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:42,400
I think it's I think it's a 
really loaded question. 

1147
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,100
I think it's not as very 
cleverly crafted questions that 

1148
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,500
is Completely completely and 
utterly irrelevant. 

1149
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,300
And I was trying to think of 
like some other examples of the 

1150
00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:52,700
same sort of thing and out 
analogies of the same thing, and

1151
00:52:52,700 --> 00:52:56,000
it's like, it's literally the 
same as to me is someone saying,

1152
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:59,600
oh, if you taught a lesson and 
and and it wasn't planned by 

1153
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,900
you, would you be happy to go 
outside at the end of the day? 

1154
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,500
Tap it all of the parents on the
head and tell them this lesson 

1155
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:07,300
wasn't planned by me. 
Is that what course? 

1156
00:53:07,300 --> 00:53:10,000
I wouldn't, of course, I 
wouldn't want to do that, but 

1157
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,600
that's not why. 
I like that's not why. 

1158
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,800
I don't think they should use 
the lessons. 

1159
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,200
That's just an irrelevant thing 
I have. 

1160
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:17,300
Course I was embarrassed but 
because on the reports I was 

1161
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:20,000
never putting who did or didn't 
write it anyway. 

1162
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,400
So why did I do this extra 
thing? 

1163
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,400
Anyway, of course, I don't want 
another Angela. 

1164
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,500
This is exactly what I meant. 
What I said, I think it's only 

1165
00:53:26,500 --> 00:53:28,800
relevant people who don't like 
AI, but there were two think 

1166
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,300
that's a thing to ask because 
with, I'd be very interested, 

1167
00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:34,500
maybe they, maybe they have this
kind of thing for everything. 

1168
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:36,800
Maybe they do every lesson. 
Say this was their son was 

1169
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,100
brought to you by twinkle. 
I didn't handcraft this lesson, 

1170
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:41,300
but I looked at it and I 
accepted that it was good for 

1171
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:44,600
what I want to deliver today. 
And then I delivered, it is, you

1172
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,100
know, Is it? 
I just don't think it's a fair 

1173
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:52,100
question to ask. 
Someone would you do this? 

1174
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:54,400
Well the answer is yes. 
I mean I would tell a parent 

1175
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,200
now. 
I've got a lesson off the 

1176
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,500
internet if you really wanted me
to. 

1177
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,500
Yeah. 
But what's the point? 

1178
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,200
Yeah. 
But all it does is open them up 

1179
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,600
to an interpretation of the 
thing you're telling them that 

1180
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:04,900
might be wrong and that's the 
problem. 

1181
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:07,100
So true, the only reason I 
wouldn't actually like to tell a

1182
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:10,200
parent I got this in twinkle is 
because they might then come to 

1183
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,300
a conclusion that for some 
reason that was a terrible thing

1184
00:54:12,700 --> 00:54:14,300
and then it just opened up a can
of worms. 

1185
00:54:14,300 --> 00:54:16,300
I don't want to get into And 
it's the same with this report 

1186
00:54:16,300 --> 00:54:19,300
thing AI is really new right now
and quite clearly it's a bit 

1187
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:21,200
controversial and even more 
clearly. 

1188
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,200
People don't understand how it 
works. 

1189
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:25,500
You know that headteacher going 
back to that original post. 

1190
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:28,000
It says, it's immoral and 
ethically, wrong to use it. 

1191
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,700
It's like, do you do they know 
it's just a language model and 

1192
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:32,300
all it's doing is just speeding 
up. 

1193
00:54:32,300 --> 00:54:34,500
You writing a paragraph? 
Like do they understand that? 

1194
00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:36,800
Because if they did, I don't 
think they'd have that opinion 

1195
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,800
so clearly they don't understand
it. 

1196
00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:41,000
So I don't want to tell pair, I 
wouldn't want to tell parents 

1197
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,700
that it's had all supported by 
AI because they'll probably some

1198
00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:47,600
parents that don't Moray is and 
think it's a terrible thing for 

1199
00:54:47,607 --> 00:54:49,400
me to do. 
And then I've got to explain to 

1200
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,600
them all of this, listen to the 
podcast. 

1201
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:55,500
This is great that we just send 
this link, but, you know, 

1202
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:58,900
equally I must say, I do. 
Like I do understand it because 

1203
00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:01,100
there are like I said at the 
start in general with AI there 

1204
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:03,600
are huge red flags at the minute
of, you know, the people who 

1205
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,100
literally developed it saying, 
you know, it could be a harm to 

1206
00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:09,000
humanity in the long run. 
And to those people, I just say,

1207
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,200
well, you know, if it's going to
kill us at least, I could do my 

1208
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,200
reports further. 
Exactly. 

1209
00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:18,300
Exactly. 
God's sake. 

1210
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,100
We need a very serious 
conversation. 

1211
00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:24,100
I have a question though. 
I've gotta continue this for a 

1212
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:29,200
second because it put it. 
I said cool, I'm sorry of the 

1213
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:34,300
factual for your permission. 
So my question is this because 

1214
00:55:34,300 --> 00:55:37,300
this is where I think you know 
I'm presenting we're presenting 

1215
00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:40,800
ourselves here as the voices of 
reason but I do think maybe I am

1216
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,500
maybe too far on the other end 
of this spectrum and this 

1217
00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:45,100
question will kind of expose 
that? 

1218
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,400
Do you think? 
And that if given adequate time 

1219
00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:54,400
to fully write the reports that 
so that you spend no extra time 

1220
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,100
whatsoever doing them but the 
caveat was you have to write 

1221
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:00,500
them bespoke. 
The individually from scratch 

1222
00:56:00,500 --> 00:56:03,700
for every single child but 
you're given every single minute

1223
00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:05,900
you need to do that. 
So there's no loss of time 

1224
00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:10,900
there. 
Would you still rather do it 

1225
00:56:10,900 --> 00:56:14,400
with AI? 
Oh, that's so tricky. 

1226
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:16,900
Because what you're doing to be 
right here. 

1227
00:56:16,900 --> 00:56:19,300
Now is basically trying to make 
me make me weigh up the pros and

1228
00:56:19,300 --> 00:56:23,100
cons of AI in my head. 
Ready because part of me, right?

1229
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:24,800
I'm gonna say both answers are 
going to cop out here a little 

1230
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,700
bit. 
Part of me is saying, no, as in,

1231
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:30,000
I come up with a question was 
now. 

1232
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,200
So what no question was, would 
you still want to use AI given 

1233
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,900
that situation of time is not a 
factor now, it's not stressed 

1234
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:37,200
teachers like oh I can't do it. 
My own. 

1235
00:56:37,300 --> 00:56:40,400
Time time is not a factor would 
you still want to do? 

1236
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,500
And it really quickly. 
As I say no first because I 

1237
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:46,500
think if I had all the time then
I'm probably am going to create 

1238
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:48,400
what that person that was 
talking to me is what was 

1239
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,200
talking about, which is a 
beautifully personal comment, 

1240
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:53,700
that maybe parents would 
appreciate a bit more than 

1241
00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:55,000
anything. 
I could have ever created with 

1242
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,500
a. 
I even, if I just edited a few. 

1243
00:56:56,500 --> 00:57:00,000
In fact, the whole thing myself,
it really, truly is a complete 

1244
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,500
100% personal reflection from 
me, from my brain, my writing 

1245
00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:05,500
style, to that parent, about 
their child. 

1246
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,000
I think that's great. 
And I think there is something 

1247
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,500
love. 
Out that and I don't think she's

1248
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:11,900
wrong in saying that, that is an
amazing thing to do for parents.

1249
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:15,700
The other part of me still 
though, it's still and I think 

1250
00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:19,000
yeah, AI is still got a place 
here because it's still a really

1251
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,100
good way of mixing up the way 
you write things, because 

1252
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:23,700
whether you like to think you're
not, you're going to write the 

1253
00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:27,400
same sort of stuff and it's a 
really long process. 

1254
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,800
It's very, very exhausting 
writing or attach it. 

1255
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,300
Do you think so? 
It's boring after a while 

1256
00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:39,200
because I, I'm, as I'm as 
enthusiastic as you and I really

1257
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,400
truly am about writing. 
A really nice report for these 

1258
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,100
kids because I love them and you
know, spend so much time with 

1259
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:45,800
them. 
I just think that can be 

1260
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,000
achieved with a i and what I 
mean is when I'm writing it for 

1261
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,600
hours on end like literally like
after 4 hours it I lose that 

1262
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,900
buzz. 
And I know my reports are 

1263
00:57:55,908 --> 00:57:59,500
getting worse because I'm 
knackered and I am like, oh God 

1264
00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:02,200
I'm sorry kid like this is going
to be a very generic one because

1265
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,800
I just don't have the energy to 
put that in mind space in I 

1266
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,900
think AI solves that and makes 
it better like That's the reason

1267
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:11,500
I'm very passionate but II. 
I think like you that the 

1268
00:58:11,500 --> 00:58:15,200
reports are better for everyone 
the second half of the register 

1269
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,400
aren't going to Raw Deal 
anymore. 

1270
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:18,300
Yeah, I agree. 
And I'm going to say right now 

1271
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:20,700
and I know we talked about it, 
talked about it between us when 

1272
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:22,400
I was actually writing my 
reports. 

1273
00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:26,100
And at the time, I remember 
saying to you, I don't think 

1274
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:29,300
they're quite as good as if I 
had written them completely 

1275
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:32,500
myself but I've changed my mind 
because since then what I've 

1276
00:58:32,500 --> 00:58:34,800
done is I've gone back in and 
I've just read through them 

1277
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,700
again and I've actually just 
edited a couple of little things

1278
00:58:36,700 --> 00:58:38,800
because I felt So bad, that 
their baby wasn't enough, 

1279
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,400
anecdotes enough, like actual 
personal stories in and I've 

1280
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,500
realized that at the end of 
this, not only are they 

1281
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:46,200
considerably better than any 
report I've ever written before 

1282
00:58:46,500 --> 00:58:49,600
completely and utterly unique 
for every single child. 

1283
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,400
They also, it took me less than 
half the time. 

1284
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,200
I've ever spent writing reports 
even including that extra me 

1285
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,800
going back in and editing in 
some stories and it's like okay 

1286
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,000
they've actually ended up being.
I'm a complete Advocate. 

1287
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,000
Now for doing this I'm actually 
going to do this every single 

1288
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,500
year because they're literally 
better than any report I've ever

1289
00:59:05,500 --> 00:59:07,700
written and let's be To be 
honest. 

1290
00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:11,300
Now because this is the time to 
out myself and every other 

1291
00:59:11,300 --> 00:59:16,500
teacher is that I don't think 
there are many teachers who can 

1292
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:19,500
honestly put their hand on their
heart and say, they open up a 

1293
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:22,100
brand new word document every 
single year from scratch and 

1294
00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:23,800
write every single comment. 
No way. 

1295
00:59:24,300 --> 00:59:25,600
Okay, I'm calling you out right 
now. 

1296
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,200
We'd know you don't know you 
don't you open other you open up

1297
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,800
last year's and you match up 
some kids that are similar. 

1298
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,700
If you can, you open up the year
before and you get your comment 

1299
00:59:34,700 --> 00:59:37,000
bank that you use that you made 
one year because you were trying

1300
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,000
to Save yourself some time, and 
you've written five different 

1301
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,300
comments for re and you copy 
one, any change the name, you 

1302
00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:46,900
know, people do that. 
They just do, I've done it loads

1303
00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:52,500
of times because it is, you have
your perfect because it's 

1304
00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:55,600
impossible is just impossible 
because the end of the day, we 

1305
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,300
don't live in that perfect world
that you're talking about. 

1306
00:59:57,300 --> 00:59:59,300
We don't have all the time in 
the world to do. 

1307
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,700
We have our half-term break to 
do it so it's gotta get done one

1308
01:00:03,700 --> 01:00:05,100
way or another. 
So there we are. 

1309
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:07,800
Brilliant. 
I love that. 

1310
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,500
Love that chat. 
And as always, we're right? 

1311
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,300
Okay. 
That was a joke. 

1312
01:00:17,300 --> 01:00:20,600
A little quicker at the end. 
I know we're not always right, I

1313
01:00:20,607 --> 01:00:21,700
get it. 
Okay. 

1314
01:00:21,900 --> 01:00:24,500
But that was a great chat. 
I really love that because you 

1315
01:00:24,500 --> 01:00:26,300
know what we always do. 
A did we kind of go down that 

1316
01:00:26,300 --> 01:00:27,400
rabbit hole? 
Don't we are thinking. 

1317
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,500
Well, this is obviously the 
correct answer and just opening 

1318
01:00:29,500 --> 01:00:32,600
up those views from other. 
People have said and you know, 

1319
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,300
slowly dismantling them and 
proving them wrong. 

1320
01:00:34,300 --> 01:00:35,900
It feels good. 
You know what Dylan night. 

1321
01:00:35,900 --> 01:00:37,600
I just realized I spoke a lot 
for once. 

1322
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,000
It wasn't you dominating the 
conversation. 

1323
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,200
I never really asked you for 
your kind of final appeal 

1324
01:00:41,300 --> 01:00:43,400
Opinion on it. 
So what is your kind of? 

1325
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:45,300
What's your takeaway point from 
this chat? 

1326
01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:47,500
What do you think about? 
Well, I thought so I will just 

1327
01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:50,500
first he say and I think you 
know, I said last week I've got 

1328
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:53,200
a few comments that I just, you 
know, talk over you interrupt 

1329
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,000
you but here's the thing, I'm 
always learning. 

1330
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,500
The point is, I don't want 
people to know this because it 

1331
01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:06,800
is the way it's been because 
Hayden specifically, when we 

1332
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,800
start this podcast said to me. 
Well, you're in charge pal. 

1333
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,700
Yeah, you lead it. 
You lead this podcast. 

1334
01:01:10,900 --> 01:01:13,600
So, Usually one who's trying to 
push is on to other stuff and, 

1335
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,000
you know, and I love the sound 
of my own voice bit like I'm 

1336
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,500
doing now. 
So, the point I'm going to make 

1337
01:01:18,500 --> 01:01:20,700
it. 
This was the first ever podcast 

1338
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where I hadn't prepared 
anything. 

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I had prepared nut. 
I've usually got a document up. 

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If you watch the video, you'll 
sometimes see my eyes scanning 

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but with some forward, because 
I'm usually reading something or

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trying to get some information. 
Because I know what the next 

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point is going to be a wet work 
trying to structure this 

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conversation and Hayden's just 
here for the ride. 

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But I feel like I was here for 
the ride to, they're quite 

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enjoyed that. 
I quite enjoyed it as well as 

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the first taste of power I've 
got in our relationship, so it 

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was nice. 
Yeah. 

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Okay. 
Stop talking, we're going to 

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wrap it up there but just a 
quick one from us, guys. 

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We had our biggest ever week of 
listeners. 

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Thanks to Sophie and her 
influence and her amazing input.

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So we want to keep it growing 
and the best way for you to help

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us do that. 
And the best way for you to help

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us get more guests in the future
is ratings. 

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Give us some rating on Spotify. 
When people see that number go 

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up. 
They think we're more credible. 

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They might even listen. 
And That we have no idea what 

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I'm talking about, but they see 
that number and then I all. 

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Okay, they've had some guests, 
they've got some ratings, follow

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us on Spotify guys. 
We are edging toward 100 

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followers on Spotify, which is 
just mad. 

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We think about it to us. 
You know what, fellas we did. 

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I think it's just it's just 
rubbish. 

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I think we're going to get guess
anyway and we're just going to 

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carry on doing it so if you 
don't really fancy it don't 

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bother don't bother rating it, 
okay? 

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This is what happens, ladies and
gentlemen, this is what happens 

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when Hayden's in charge of a 
podcast episode. 

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So let's No down below in the 
poll, one of us is going to get 

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rinsed. 
I think, would you prefer to be 

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in charge of the podcast? 
Is it when I'm in charge or 

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what? 
Hey, this is George. 

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Let's open up so we wrapped 
ourselves out there. 

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Okay. 
Hey, didn't you it's your go-to 

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signs off? 
I suppose. 

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They see how well you do. 
Okay, just goes right? 

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Ready, thank you. 
Oh My Goodness, Me. 

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Jesus, right. 
Bye. 

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See you later, guys, you next 
week. 

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Bye everyone. 
No, I'm finishing. 

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Bye guys. 
See you later. 

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See you next time. 
Bye bye. 

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Episode 19, next week, tune in 
your friends. 

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It's coming baby. 
We're going to see you soon and 

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it's from Hayden and it's from 
the yellow plus the guests. 

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We've got next week. 
See ya. 

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Bye.