1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,800 Hello everyone, I got back to that episode of Teach the 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:02,560 Repeat. My name is Dylan. 3 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,480 And my name's Hayden. And we are going out for a Curry 4 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:05,520 later and it's all I can think about. 5 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,480 Oh yeah, all I can think about. Does anyone else get that when 6 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,040 they know they're going out for dinner and it's just it takes 7 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:13,120 over my mind? We are, we are at the, I think 8 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:15,000 it's an age thing. I do think we're at the age now 9 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,360 where that is the most exciting thing that can happen in our 10 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,720 lives. Right, because it's so rare, 11 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,400 it's still all being timed so that the, the the kids have to 12 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,760 be completely asleep. Yeah. 13 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:29,040 And away, away. Give a draw, Daddy. 14 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,440 Away. Let's put the kids away. 15 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,280 Yeah, you. Go go to the cot and you realise 16 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,440 all the cutleries in there. And you're like ohh God where's 17 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:41,200 the kids Mommy, I need something to eat my soup with. 18 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,400 Just dip my Chai. Oh God, wow, welcome back to 19 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,520 another episode. It's Q&A, so. 20 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,760 Well, no, we're very serious. That's no, that's allowed in the 21 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,880 Q&A. Yeah, it's the hunt. 22 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,360 It's the unhinged. Yeah, episodes, it's all good. 23 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:55,320 My favourite ones. Yeah. 24 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,240 Using my child as a utensil to drink my soup. 25 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,240 As we're on the topic of being being unhinged, can I tell you 26 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,600 something Not so unhinged, but kind of impressive? 27 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,080 Well, it has to reach a certain level of unhingedness to be 28 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,760 allowed. Well, I don't know, maybe it's. 29 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,720 Just me? Well, let's just judge it. 30 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,800 You can judge it yesterday. Yeah. 31 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,040 I went to Tesco's with the purpose of doing this, by the 32 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,400 way. It's I'm glad it paid off. 33 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,840 Sorry thinking. I think I know what you're going 34 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,720 to say. Of course you do, because you 35 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,160 know why I go to Tesco. There is only one reason you 36 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,200 it's Little Tesco, by the way, Let's make that down the road 37 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,640 from us. Little Tesco is is dangerously 38 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,000 close to where we separately live. 39 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,800 By the way, again, all new listeners, I think every time 40 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,400 they do, we put the kids away and and Tesco's down the road 41 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,640 from us. I think they're getting the 42 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,680 wrong impression sometimes. No, we live close to each other 43 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,120 with our separate families. Close to each other, Separate 44 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,840 rooms in the same house. Very close. 45 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,280 You could say really close. Stop it. 46 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,320 And Tesco is is is dangerously close. 47 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:50,520 And when a Tesco is dangerously close, it only means one thing 48 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,080 for middle-aged men with low addicts, right? 49 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,160 Right. So, you know, I was going there 50 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,280 and I thought to myself, and bear in mind the point of we're 51 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,240 recording this is like a week and a bit after Easter. 52 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,560 If anything, it's more than a week and a half. 53 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,040 It's nearly two weeks away from Easter, right? 54 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,080 And I was like, I wonder if they've got any eggs left 55 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,639 because when I went in there a couple of days after Easter, 56 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,160 they had all this reduced to clear stuff. 57 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,640 I was like brilliant and cheap chocolate. 58 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:15,400 I bought loads obviously and. You ran out, clearly. 59 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,200 Ran out. Ran out. 60 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,320 I ran out that day because I ate them immediately and I went 61 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,880 there thinking I really do fancy some chocolate. 62 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:26,640 Guess what One Easter egg left? One big giant crunchy Easter 63 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:28,560 egg. Crunchy was a crunchy 1, and 64 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,120 clearly it was left because it's ludicrously priced right and to 65 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,640 people thinking well I'm not going to buy that because I'm 66 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:34,080 not stupid. This guy though? 67 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,240 Whoa, Mr Stupid's walked in quick. 68 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,440 Get the one egg out. Put the one egg out on. 69 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,800 The shelf reduce to clear, it's only £7.50 now. 70 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,120 Thank. God, I was going to say that I I 71 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,720 don't believe you see a big reduce to clear thing. 72 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,040 You're like right time to fill my boots. 67 lbs Yeah. 73 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,000 Looks at the little The best thing thing about Tesco is you 74 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,480 look at a little tag and it tells you the price per 75 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,640 kilogramme of stuff I love because that's the only metric. 76 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:57,240 You can actually compare. That's not a Tesco thing. 77 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,400 You know, that was by law brought in that you have to do 78 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,600 that which because it got into trouble, I'm going to very 79 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,040 quickly now public service announcement, it got into 80 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,960 trouble for not correctly labelling it like properly on 81 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,000 there, especially when it came to club card prices, right? 82 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,240 So it wasn't really telling you the actual price you were 83 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,040 getting because obviously club card price is just a complete 84 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,600 sham. They put the, the price is 85 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,280 ridiculously expensive and they're like, oh, what's what's 86 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,080 that? This bottle of juice is now 87 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,440 £2.50 on club card prices. I'm sorry, what? 88 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,640 What was it? It was £8.10. 89 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:24,360 What? What? 90 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,120 For a Tropicana. Why was it ever that much? 91 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,200 But they got into trouble because they weren't label 92 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,320 labelling really clearly price per unit so that you could 93 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,520 actually compare it. Because most of the time you 94 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,640 just see a yellow thing. They know it's psychological. 95 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,320 Oh, yellow club card price must be cheap in the trolley. 96 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,240 Yeah. And they weren't properly 97 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,200 labelling it, so it's not. They all have to really clearly 98 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,200 label that now. Fair enough. 99 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,280 Well, I looked at that and I thought £7.50 reduced from 15 100 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,000 lbs by the way, which is what those Easter eggs were. 101 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,520 You know that the giant, the the quote unquote giant ones. 102 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,480 It's just bigger box. Yeah, yeah, but the eggs are a 103 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,240 bit thicker. So is it where like you actual 104 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,200 crunchy? That's right. 105 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,680 Yeah. Those like thick ones which is 106 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,320 which is very nice. Which is what people have tuned 107 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,960 into this podcast, this. Exactly that, right? 108 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:02,040 And they're in, they're, they're hooked at this point. 109 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,760 Have you finished it? What? 110 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,200 Yeah. Oh my God. 111 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,440 I bought it last night and it's gone. 112 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,120 I finished it this morning before I came round here to 113 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:09,960 record. I'm not joking. 114 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,320 That's in fact, that's all I've eaten today. 115 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,720 You are pathetic. That's all. 116 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:13,400 I've eaten. You are. 117 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,600 Pathetic. I am. 118 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,839 I am. It's 950, so it is in the 119 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,279 morning and all I've eaten this morning is the rest of that egg. 120 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,480 Oh my goodness. Right, let's go into the first. 121 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,160 Anyway, first question which is kind of linked. 122 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,120 Sick days. Oh because I think if you eat 123 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,600 one of them in the morning maybe you will be sick. 124 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,920 Sick days? Why is it actually impossible to 125 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,040 fully rest on a sick day? Just calling SLT to tell them I 126 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,920 wasn't feeling well was awful. I had to be convinced by my 127 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,040 partner that I should stay home. Just feels like I have more work 128 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,160 to do and also feels like I should be working whilst I'm 129 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,640 I'll. Any things you guys did to maybe 130 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,960 make sick days a bit easier? For example, did you have cover 131 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,480 folders or anything like that? I guess one more positive is 132 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,280 that my immune system is getting. 133 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:52,480 Stronger. Yeah, that is true. 134 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,120 I'll tell you what though, can resonate with that. 135 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,440 I don't know about you, but I I never, ever, ever had a sick day 136 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,640 where I didn't at least feel some level of guilt. 137 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,280 And I'm like, oh, should should I just go in? 138 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,520 I don't think I would have felt, I didn't feel that when I went 139 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,640 to Tesco, felt sick. I was like, I'm just sick, I 140 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:08,480 think for guilt. Oh no, who's gonna? 141 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,720 Who's gonna manage? Holders, yeah, the stomps, the 142 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,080 stomps and the profit and the yield. 143 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,440 Oh no. Exactly right. 144 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,840 But I did feel that every single time in teaching, even working 145 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:18,360 in a in a nice school, I still felt guilty. 146 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,360 And they didn't make me feel guilty, I just felt guilty 147 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:21,840 anyway. But I felt more guilty in a nice 148 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,160 school if anything, because I was in an environment where 149 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,000 everyone supported me nicely and I was like, oh, I don't want to 150 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,480 actually, I really don't want to let anyone down. 151 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,760 And it felt like I was, which is which is insane when you're I're 152 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,640 I'll not letting anyone. Down. 153 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:31,800 And I felt even more guilty than that. 154 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,440 You know what I mean? Like whatever you felt, I felt 155 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,840 it more. Well, I whatever you felt. 156 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:38,080 Plus Infinity plus one, yeah, is what I felt. 157 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,800 Oh God. So firstly I just want to say, 158 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,520 yeah, I think that's quite normal for some reason to feel 159 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:42,920 like that. I've definitely had days where I 160 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,760 worked on my sick days genuinely where I was like, oh, I'm at 161 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,160 home. I currently be with the kids, 162 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,600 but I can sit in front of a computer. 163 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,600 I can sit in front of a computer and get stuff done. 164 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,280 I suppose it's. Just your normal state, isn't 165 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:54,280 it? Yeah, literally. 166 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,320 Yeah, I do think there's, I think there's a like it's a 167 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,040 tricky 1. It's a really tricky one because 168 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,920 we're teaching it is intense. I don't think people realise how 169 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,120 actually teaching is genuinely physically demanding and it's 170 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,440 it's stupid. What I'm not saying is it's not 171 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,880 the same as working in the sewers. 172 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,080 Like I'm not saying it's physically demanding and 173 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,040 therefore it's the same as every physically demanding. 174 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,280 Yeah, right, exactly. I'm not saying I'm saying it's 175 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:18,040 more physically demanding than you might think. 176 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,080 And what what that that kind of brings up a grey area where you 177 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,600 know, you you can be genuinely too. 178 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,600 I'll to stand in front of the class and deliver an essence 179 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,560 properly, but not I'll enough that you can sit in front of 180 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:31,560 your laptop and do a bit of work. 181 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,240 That's true. It's a weird middle ground. 182 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,120 However, I again, always just err on the side of you are a 183 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,960 human being after all. If you do take a sick day, just 184 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,120 have the day off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 185 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,720 That's what I would ask, but I understand again, maybe you can 186 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,280 attest to it while you did it because but again, teaching is a 187 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:51,280 job where the the work is never done and it can feel like 188 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,920 actually it's a net good for everyone, just for me to do a 189 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,440 bit of work today. Sometimes I see it as a bit of a 190 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,040 win. I'd almost be like, it's cheeky. 191 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,520 I'm like I'm, I'll, I am too. I'll to be in front of the kids. 192 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,880 I could just do some work and I don't have to do some planning. 193 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,000 At the weekend. So did you get like a hint? 194 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,360 Yeah, literally. And I'd be like, and then I'd 195 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,640 feel even more guilty because technically that's cheeky now. 196 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,080 Because I'm like, oh, now I'm now I technically am doing work 197 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,680 that I would have done later on because I should have been 198 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,680 teaching right now. Or should I be doing this? 199 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:14,560 Or should I just take the day off? 200 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,520 Really genuinely, 9 times out of 10 I actually just should have 201 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,920 taken the day off because if you're ill, ignoring the mental 202 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,320 side of it is not actually good. Like obviously like you are 203 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,840 still fatigued in your mind. You should, if you're physically 204 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,520 I'll, you should just have a break completely. 205 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,920 Let your mind rest as well. That is what you should do. 206 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,640 But yeah, I often didn't. It's tricky as well because the 207 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,800 way the the job works where you've got to do some work 208 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,400 outside that planning and stuff. The illness for example, I 209 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,520 remember being I'll I was on ill on a Friday and I always felt 210 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,400 again like I was taking the Mick because oh, it's a Friday. 211 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,400 I can't help being I'll today like I am just I'll even though 212 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,360 this does give me now three days off for the weekend rather than 213 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,800 just two, but I am ill. But then the illness would like 214 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,640 continue into the weekend, but then I, I would have had to do 215 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,440 some work at the weekend. So, so I was planning on doing a 216 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,000 bit of planning at the weekend so that I could get ready for 217 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,160 the week after. I am ill, right? 218 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,760 Yeah, but I did actually, it wasn't even being cheeky. 219 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,640 Now, I had to do that work otherwise I wouldn't have any 220 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,200 lessons for the for the week after that. 221 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,640 So it was a weird thing where I was like, OK, I have called in 222 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,400 I'll on the Friday, which means I specifically can't be in front 223 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,680 of the kids teaching the lesson. But there's there's no like 224 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,720 system for calling in I'll to do the work that I'm not paid to do 225 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,680 anyway, which I've got to do to do the job like that. 226 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,960 It's like a really weird remind. You of how much from mugs we are 227 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,120 as teachers, isn't it Yeah, exactly. 228 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,520 It's like, Oh, no, I'm too. I'll to do all this, the five 229 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,679 hours of unpaid work that I do every single Saturday. 230 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,520 What do I do? Oh, there's no system because 231 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,320 you're, you are being taken for a mug. 232 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,200 Yeah, by doing that. I think this is basically what 233 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,120 this person's errand towards. Maybe we could round up this 234 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,840 question by just summarising it in terms of having some kind of 235 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,520 cover folder maybe. So I remember we had cover 236 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,360 folders where, but it was simply more the cover teacher would 237 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,640 know to go to the cover folder, they'd know exactly where to 238 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,200 find the lesson. But I've provided that lesson as 239 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,600 well. I think going one step further, 240 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,600 and I think this is OK. And there's lots of people who 241 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,760 push back and say, no, it's not. Children should always get 242 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,840 everything that's adaptive and then the needs and the exact 243 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,760 moment. Chill out. 244 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,280 It's it is OK to just have a backup lesson. 245 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,960 Yeah. A lesson that can be just stand 246 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,320 alone. Let's just say for English one 247 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,800 day it's a standalone comprehension lesson that you 248 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,880 just have. You're not for emergencies. 249 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,840 Yeah, you don't plan to use, but actually if there is just a day 250 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,760 where, oh, I'm off sick and I can't do anything and nothing's 251 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,400 been planned for whatever reason, yeah, then just pick 252 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,680 that up and go mass. I can think of a million mass 253 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:28,080 investigations or stand alone lessons that are, you know, 254 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,760 relative for that child's age and that that can be suitable 255 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,160 that I won't necessarily need to use but could use. 256 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,000 Yeah, I could think of a lesson for every subject like that. 257 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,920 And I think I personally think having that as some kind of 258 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,520 store is not only good for you as the teacher. 259 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,520 I think it should be a school wide policy definitely. 260 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,360 Because then SLT can step in and actually arrange cover and 261 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,080 arrange sorting out someone being sick. 262 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,320 Because the way it currently happens is it seems to be that 263 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,280 it's put on colleagues. Whereas something like this, 264 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,400 which is just more across the school guide that we have a Bank 265 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:58,840 of resources for each year group. 266 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,680 If someone's I'll use one of these, make sure it's logged 267 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:03,400 somewhere that that class have done that lesson so I don't know 268 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,200 again in six months and then go on to the next one. 269 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,000 I think that's reasonable. Definitely, I think that's very 270 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,720 reasonable and I don't even think it's that bad, even though 271 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,440 I think that's better. I don't think it's that bad when 272 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,640 the fall back is if you're in a multi form school, which a lot 273 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,440 of people obviously are, If it is just a case of saying to one 274 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,000 of your colleagues, look, so and so has called in sick this 275 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,520 morning. I'm not going to hassle them to 276 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,680 upload a bunch of stuff for today. 277 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:24,880 They have that I can't. I don't know where their 278 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,680 planning is as your parallel classes, whatever. 279 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:29,800 Can this class just use your lesson for today? 280 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,560 I don't think that's the worst thing in the world as a backup. 281 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:34,200 The one thing I don't like is when the expectation literally 282 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,480 is, and this has happened so much like this school clearly 283 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,480 is, oh, if you call in sick in the morning, you need to upload 284 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,080 your planning and send it all into the school though, so they 285 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,760 can use it. Two things to that. 286 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,960 I don't think that's a good policy. 287 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,560 I think there are lots of ways you can counteract that. 288 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:49,000 Like why is it in the morning that no one has the planning 289 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,360 anywhere? Like surely there should be a 290 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,840 school system where the planning's uploaded. 291 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,720 Like we had, we just had shared drive folders when the planning 292 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,720 was done, whether it was a week before or even a few days before 293 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,760 the weekend, whatever, it was just uploaded to that folder. 294 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,840 So at least if you were sick two days later, your planning was 295 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,080 already there. Do you know what I mean? 296 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,040 Like, there's just lots of things that can happen before it 297 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,560 gets to the point where the, the, the typical school policy 298 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:11,680 is, oh, yeah, if you're sick, you have to do some work in the 299 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:13,760 morning, right, So that you can be sick. 300 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Like, I hate that. Why does it get to that? 301 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,600 If it gets to that, it's poor management. 302 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,360 Of the school, I I agree, I completely agree and and it and 303 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,560 it cannot, but it can also be just to put it back on the 304 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:25,720 teacher a little bit. I think when it's immediate, I 305 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,920 do think like I cannot imagine any point in my school career 306 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,400 genuinely where if I was sick, like let's say a Tuesday night. 307 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,120 Yeah. And therefore on Wednesday I was 308 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,560 off There was there was genuinely never a situation 309 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:38,800 where my lesson wasn't ready for that day. 310 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:39,400 Yeah. Yeah. 311 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,480 Like so so I do I do think that there comes something like upon 312 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,640 you where it's I think it's reasonable to expect a teacher 313 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,800 that if they're I'll the night before, well, the lesson is 314 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,160 already there. It's already there. 315 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,240 And if it's not, then you know OK sending an. 316 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,440 E-mail. Like, yeah, like it's yeah, 317 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,280 exactly. It's like there has to be 318 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,440 something in place. And what I'm circling back to is 319 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,560 what I said. I think even in that worst case 320 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:04,200 scenario, I do still think there has to be a schoolwide policy of 321 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,240 well, it's just batch of resources we can use. 322 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,840 That's what I think. I think that as well. 323 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:08,880 Yeah. Yeah. 324 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,680 There we go. Anyway, next question, go on. 325 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,000 My head teacher has announced that in September she's looking 326 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,560 at moving where teachers are going to teach. 327 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,840 None of us want to move as we are happy where we are and staff 328 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,320 have not been moved in around 10 years as far as I'm aware. 329 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,760 All staff have questioned if we have an input in this and we're 330 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,200 point blank told no. Coincidentally the latest we 331 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,800 were here where where we will go is the day before the May 332 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:31,840 deadline. That's interesting. 333 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,440 So it seems either suck it up or leave. 334 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,880 Shouldn't there be a discussion at least between staff and head 335 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,800 teacher rather than just being dictated to? 336 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,720 What do you think? I don't know. 337 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,360 I don't think I agree. You know, go on. 338 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,840 I'm a little bit like I think first. 339 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,240 Hayden thinks you're wrong, listener. 340 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,040 I'm trying to be polite but my gut feeling is. 341 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,080 What? What wrong about what? 342 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,040 Go on, dive. Into it the the head teacher, 343 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,520 your boss is well within their rights to move you to a 344 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,800 different class because you're a teacher and and there's no part 345 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,000 of your teaching contact that says I only work in year 4 and I 346 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,560 have to do it from 10 years or more. 347 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,560 If anything, take that. That's screaming out to me. 348 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:09,200 Crikey, yeah, let's, let's move the staff around a bit. 349 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,800 They've been in the same place for 10 years. 350 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,920 For what reason? Just. 351 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,320 Just to spice up the job a little. 352 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,880 Bit why, why why do we need to spice up? 353 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:18,280 If these teachers have been doing it for 10 years, know the 354 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,640 curriculum at the back of their hand, clearly good are good 355 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,000 here. Let's assume why. 356 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:22,840 Why, why? Why? 357 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,520 Is just to spice up reason OK? To spice it up was a terrible, 358 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,000 terrible explanation. There's more to it, right? 359 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,480 I was being polite and trying to frame it in a way where anyone 360 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,880 just say what what are you talking about? 361 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,560 Actually, that is the worst reason, just to spice it up. 362 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,000 The reason to me is, and I think there is absolute evidence of 363 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 this just from my career. And I think it's, you know, 364 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,600 there's probably more evidence out there in terms of other 365 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,720 people experiencing it too. I think moving teachers around 366 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,320 to get experience in different year groups genuinely, genuinely 367 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,600 makes you a better teacher. I think if you are only in year 368 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,240 6 and you have no experience of any of the the stuff that 369 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,880 happens before that, I don't think that makes you a bad 370 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,040 teacher. But I do think it will 371 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,000 potentially make you a better teacher if you go and teach in 372 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,080 year 4 and Year 5 for a couple of years and then go back to 373 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,640 year 6. I think year six teachers that 374 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,680 have been in in previous years have a better holistic 375 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:05,720 understanding of the journey through Key Stage 2 and are 376 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,800 therefore better teachers when they are in any of those 377 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,760 respective year groups. So just to spice it up is it was 378 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,480 a terrible way of saying there is legitimate reasons I think 379 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,240 that you can become you can be a better practitioner if you're 380 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,720 not stagnating in the same year group. 381 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,480 Can you imagine? This long it's happening and you 382 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,240 go into your head, you're like, why are you doing this? 383 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,120 And the head just like just to spice it up baby. 384 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,840 And you're like what? And they just throw some peri 385 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,160 peri salt in your face. OK. 386 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,600 I'd say if I was a head teacher, I'd do it just to rage bait my 387 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,480 stuff, I think, and then I'd tell them the real reason. 388 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,000 But I think there's weight in that, you know? 389 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,160 Yeah. So I, I don't, I don't disagree 390 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,520 with that. I don't disagree with the fact 391 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,200 that at the end of the day, you contract, you're a teacher in 392 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,200 the school, you're a key stage 2 teacher or a key stage one key 393 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,040 stage 2 or primary, whatever it says. 394 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,880 And therefore you can be moved. I do think in a school built 395 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,360 around trust and respect and professionalism that I, I, I 396 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,720 don't, I don't necessarily like this what it seems to be 397 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,640 portrayed as the head being a bit like I'm the boss to get 398 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,880 over it. I'd I have always experienced in 399 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,200 my every single year in every school I've worked in that there 400 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,280 is at least some kind of preference form that goes out or 401 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,560 or a conversation that goes out every year for for a teacher to 402 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,120 at least put their point across. Now it might be that they end up 403 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,800 struggling to fill the year groups and someone doesn't get 404 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,160 what they need or doesn't get what they want rather than say, 405 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,040 but like some people might. I think that to me should 406 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,800 happen. So the fact that's not happening 407 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,920 to me, I don't think that's wrong. 408 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,000 Sorry, I don't, I don't think that's that the right thing to 409 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,960 do where there's nothing at all. I think it's obviously it's 410 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,000 acceptable. Obviously the head can do that. 411 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,240 I'm not saying it's, it's completely wrong and it's 412 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,520 broken. You should go to a tribunal 413 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:43,960 about it because that's not true. 414 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,440 But I'm just saying in in a school I want to work in or a 415 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,960 school that I would want to manage, that would be a really 416 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,200 key part of this process when I'm changing teachers around. 417 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,120 To ask you a question to see if it changed your perspective at 418 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,800 all. I'm just adding some context. 419 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:55,720 This is not part of the question. 420 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,000 This is just in my made-up one, right? 421 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,200 Would it, would your answer be different if in the previous 422 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,560 nine years where everyone's been in the same place, the head 423 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,880 teacher did ask and they all consistently every single year 424 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,240 said I just want to stay where I am. 425 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,440 And the head teacher got to the point where like where they're 426 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,120 thinking, I know there is way in being a better practitioner by 427 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,480 moving staff around. Nobody wants to move around. 428 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,360 And I know I'm going to get the same answer for the 10th year in 429 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,320 a row, so I'm just going to do the hard thing. 430 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,440 Would it change your opinion? Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, it would. 431 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,680 It would because in that, in that respect, the question has 432 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,640 still been asked if it's the same people three years later. 433 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,720 Well, I still ask the I still, I still got this information. 434 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:30,600 We didn't ask them this year though. 435 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,560 No, no, that's fine because I'm saying that's OK because it's 436 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,840 the same people and I still have had that process of asking them. 437 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,360 And that means the conversation has been open for a few years. 438 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,760 OK. And because that conversation 439 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,120 has been open, I think starting off with what do you prefer? 440 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,480 What's your preferences before I make the decision that I've got 441 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,000 to make at the end of the day, I think that's better than just 442 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,600 saying, oh, I'm the head teacher, I'm going to change it 443 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,200 right now. So as long as that conversation 444 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,920 has been opened and then that allows you to have the 445 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,800 conversation after all, right? OK, you've had the preference 446 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,840 for year 4 few years in a row now. 447 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,160 I've kept you there. I really want to change it this 448 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,880 year now and I'm going to change it. 449 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,960 That's a much easier conversation and to me much more 450 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:08,079 reasonable than simply going, I'm changing it now. 451 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:09,280 I'm just not not mentioning anything. 452 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,440 So I think it's it's about it being a process. 453 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,839 And I think opening up, you just have to open up at some point, 454 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,200 have a dialogue with your staff. Like they're not OK. 455 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:18,319 They're my subordinates. OK, yeah. 456 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:20,240 Like I agree, like they are just professionals. 457 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,800 Dialogue is important. Open that dialogue. 458 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000 There is one part of this which makes me think. 459 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,000 I don't know that I reckon. I reckon maybe the head is being 460 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,040 that context we just gave there makes me think, I reckon the 461 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,320 head wasn't doing that, which is this part here, the latest we're 462 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,440 here. Where we're going is the day 463 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,120 before the May deadline. The fact that they are 464 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:39,560 purposefully not telling their staff where they're moving 465 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,720 until. They just they have 12 hours to 466 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,800 the 12 hours. Decide to quit, I think is a bit 467 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,200 like that's a bit shitty in my opinion. 468 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,800 I think if you're going to do this and you like, if you know, 469 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,720 even if you know it's still best for your staff ultimately to 470 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,600 move around and it might even just, it might revitalise some 471 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,440 staff. I personally think you can 472 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,120 absolutely stagnate in the job of teaching if you're in the 473 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:02,760 same class and teaching the same stuff year after year after 474 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,440 year. 10 years is quite a long time to be doing that. 475 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,920 And as a leader, you might think, I know they're super 476 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,800 comfortable, but I want them to go into a new environment and 477 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,320 revitalise their teaching practition, right? 478 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,520 And, and I know that that will happen, but they're not going to 479 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,960 want to do it. I still think you have to then 480 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,720 give your staff the respect to say you might not like this. 481 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,800 I think it's best for all of you. 482 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,880 But if you really, really, really don't want to, I am going 483 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,120 to give you an opportunity to leave. 484 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,200 But as your boss, this is a change I'm going to be making. 485 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,240 There is no reason in my contract I can't make this 486 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,960 change. It's really not that 487 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,360 unreasonable to move a teacher to a different year group, but 488 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:35,760 I'm going to give you a month's notice. 489 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:36,280 Yeah. Yeah. 490 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,400 I think forcing them to do it right before then that, you 491 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,760 know, they might quit is a bit like, that's a bit mean. 492 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:41,840 I don't think you need to do that. 493 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:45,440 And and do you know what if if I was a head teacher in a school 494 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,280 where me moving someone's year group after 10 years of being in 495 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,920 the same one was a reason enough for them to want to leave, I'd 496 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,600 want them to leave. And that's not even me being 497 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,840 rude or anything, that's just me being genuine there where I'm 498 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:00,040 saying if that is enough to tip you over the bar, then 499 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,320 absolutely go and find a new school where they'll probably 500 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,520 put you in a random year group anyway. 501 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,240 Are you gonna go and find an exact year group in a different 502 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:07,960 school? Probably not. 503 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,240 Yeah, to me, it'll probably get to the point where I'm just 504 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,280 like, it's been years. This is the context. 505 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:17,120 I think the context has to be really clear that you've worked 506 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:18,600 with these people for a long time, You've opened that 507 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,400 dialogue. If it's still a problem, then 508 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,280 it's like, OK, I'll let you make that choice then. 509 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:25,640 Yeah, Because I think most people would still just stay in 510 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:26,960 the school they're at and just go to Year 3. 511 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,760 Definitely and realise it's maybe not that bad like 99% of 512 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:30,960 the time. So the head teacher might also. 513 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,240 I'm just thinking something lay layers to this. 514 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,080 They might, they might generally be looking at that school and 515 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,480 thinking, honestly, half the teachers are really, really 516 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,200 complacent and stagnating in these roles. 517 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,160 They don't know it because they're just super comfortable. 518 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,760 I don't want to say that to them because it sounds horrible. 519 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:44,920 Yeah. So I'm just going to make the 520 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:45,760 move. I know it all. 521 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,760 I know I have a positive impact. I don't have to tell everyone 522 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,120 that it's because, oh, you're all doing, not doing very well 523 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:52,000 in your jobs right now. Like because that might sound, 524 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,160 but they might be thinking that they might be thinking. 525 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,720 Sorry, listener, Hey, just gone for you. 526 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:56,800 No. No, I'm not saying that because 527 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,760 I'm in my own made-up scenario this might not be true 528 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,800 whatsoever, but I can imagine a head teacher thinking I'm going 529 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,480 to make this choice and it's going to come across me and 530 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,840 they're going to think I'm being considerate. 531 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,000 But I. Don't actually want to say to 532 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,200 them the truth, which is I want to move you all around because I 533 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,680 think you'll be better practitioners because you've 534 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,200 stagnated in the same year group for 10 years. 535 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,760 They might be thinking that. And I think there's just, 536 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,720 there's loads of layers to this where I'm like, there is just a 537 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,240 reality where perhaps it's just a good choice. 538 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,120 I don't like the fact that they haven't opened the dialogue 539 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:22,720 before. Yeah, that ultimately Trump's 540 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,160 this whole thing for me. I think in this real life 541 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,560 context, I think this head teachers probably just not being 542 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,960 very kind about it. But I think there are realities 543 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,080 where a teacher would want to make that change for good 544 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,760 reasons. And the staff might not like it, 545 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,000 but it's still a good reason to do it. 546 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,200 OK, let's let's move on to another question where we can 547 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,440 completely make up the situation and answer something that wasn't 548 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,200 answered. Let's do that. 549 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,160 I hope that helps. I don't know this way that 550 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,680 really helps You're you're an idiot who's wrong? 551 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,760 That's just really gonna happen. Well done, Hayden. 552 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:45,800 Just. Because you spent the whole last 553 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,920 time doing that. The followers count has gone 554 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,600 down by one. Yeah, sleep. 555 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,920 All right, Next question is the last episode wasn't that bad. 556 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,400 I just called everyone a shill. Study suggests children's 557 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,080 happiness in school drops between primary and secondary. 558 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,360 What could secondary learn from primaries? 559 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,040 Obviously they work very differently. 560 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,600 What? Okay, let's narrow it down to 561 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,440 just simply, let's try and make it a bit more concise. 562 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,280 What could secondaries learn from primary in the context of 563 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,880 happiness? I can only speak very, very 564 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,520 briefly about my own experience. Yeah, go on. 565 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,200 I moved from a small one form primary school. 566 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,840 I was the only one who went to my grammar school. 567 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,040 The secondary school that I went to, I was the only one that went 568 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,320 there, and that was sixth form. So six classes, right? 569 00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:33,040 OK. Across. 570 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,160 Yeah, with a sixth form as well. Sixth form with a sixth form and 571 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,600 huge. And the first month of me being 572 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,600 there, I felt horrendous. I wanted to stay at home, didn't 573 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,080 want to go into school anymore. It was too big. 574 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,280 It was daunting. My happiness dropped off 575 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,040 massively. So is there anything that school 576 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,160 could have done or is it just simply the case of suck it up? 577 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,000 That's just, well. I think I don't have to be, but 578 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,240 I don't think you have to suck it up. 579 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:01,120 But I think it is a case of the way the system is built where 580 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:05,640 you have such a communal kind of, you know, primary school is 581 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,920 so nurturing you with one person every single day. 582 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,680 They're often a bit smaller than secondary schools, and you're 583 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,920 often with your same teacher all day. 584 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:12,320 Yeah. Yeah. 585 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,360 To change basically everything at once in a massive lead where 586 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:19,600 you've been in this school for seven years of your life. 587 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,400 You know, everyone at the back of your hand. 588 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,720 The teachers are really close to you. 589 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,240 Your teacher. You've got 1 teacher who's like 590 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,440 your idol to to match everything up with then going to secondary 591 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,640 school, which is huge. You're just a cog in the 592 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,480 machine. You're going to seven different 593 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,680 people every single day. Yeah. 594 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,960 And they teach tonnes of classes, so exactly that super 595 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,240 you don't. Have it's not as much and this 596 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,360 is nothing against secondary school teachers, nothing against 597 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,080 secondary school in general. This is just a simple look at 598 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,560 how I personally think that the question what could secondaries 599 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,920 learn from primary? I think it's really tricky to 600 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,520 actually give that information because I don't think 601 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,080 secondaries just aren't trying. I think that is his 602 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,320 fundamentalist systemic issue where because of the way the two 603 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,320 things are ran, that will inevitably drop off in my 604 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,880 opinion. Of course I agree and I'm also 605 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,320 wondering. I want to know your thoughts on 606 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,320 this. How how much of the sort of 607 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:11,120 happiness drop off in secondary school do you think is genuinely 608 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:13,560 nothing to do with the school and attributed to the fact that 609 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,440 when we grow up, Jake, typically secondary schools, we go through 610 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,920 puberty and all emotions change it. 611 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,200 Like all of that stuff kicks in. Yeah. 612 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,720 Like if you were just a guest, because obviously this is not. 613 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,600 Yeah, of course. How much do you think is just 614 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:25,480 attributed to that? And there's. 615 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,240 Nothing we can do. I don't think it is I I think 616 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,480 it'll be really kind of stupid and dark for us to sit here and 617 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,080 try and say how much is attributed to whatever. 618 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,320 Never do it though. I'm not gonna never give me a 619 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,960 number. We are podcast Bros yeah. 620 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,400 I think it's because of the woke 65 cent. 621 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,080 It's the woke BLOB media. That's that's that's why yeah. 622 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,080 No, I what I think it's just another reason. 623 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,360 Yeah, it's just another reason why that happens in secondary 624 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:47,440 school. And again, I can only think 625 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,880 about my own experience where in that month or two when I first 626 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,120 went to that school, it it you know, it was the same school 627 00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:57,800 that I loved two years later that I, that I, I look back at 628 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,920 secondary school experience. It was an unbelievable school. 629 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,760 I loved it. I made such good friends. 630 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,560 I had. It was, it was like a huge 631 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,400 community by the end. Because you build that up again, 632 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,080 but you have to go back to scratch. 633 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,600 You have to start again from nothing. 634 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,400 And when you have the context of your old school, which you 635 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,440 obviously adore because you're a young child that is just 636 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,480 naturally I was going to drop off and I did drop off. 637 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,800 And I, I don't blame the school for that remotely. 638 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,080 No. And again, you're like, you're 639 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,920 saying you're going through puberty, your hormones are all 640 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,280 over the place. You're just, you're in a new 641 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,840 environment with new people. Yeah. 642 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,400 The systems are different. The way you interact with your 643 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,720 teachers are different. They expect, they probably you, 644 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,600 you go to from being the oldest who knows everything at the back 645 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,800 of their hand and understands it to brand new to a new 646 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,000 institution that has new rules, new expectations. 647 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,120 That's usually higher. Homework's usually higher as 648 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:44,080 well. Yeah, everything's bigger and it 649 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,800 can just be such a poor moment that if the question is what 650 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,200 could secondaries learn from primaries? 651 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,880 The the only thing I really think could have a massive 652 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,840 impact is to try and make that bridge a bit stronger and and 653 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,400 have those links to set a primary school before they go. 654 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,960 Ease it, more ease it rather than that drop off. 655 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,000 Exactly that, yeah. Just just build up something a 656 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,640 bit more. And when they're in 7-8 and 657 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,800 nine, that key stage 3 journey, yeah, maybe just make it a bit 658 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,880 more similar to primary school. Maybe just have a few more 659 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,360 teachers who teach a couple of lessons. 660 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:16,600 Yeah, maybe have more of a stronger link with your form. 661 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,080 I don't know. I don't know the answer because 662 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,840 I don't work in a secondary school and I think secondary 663 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,840 schools probably do a lot of well I. 664 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,960 Was going to say this is more commonplace than when we went to 665 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,280 secondary school already like I already hear stories of. 666 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,440 This how many primary school teachers have you heard of? 667 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,040 Because I've heard of a lot who have gone into a role in key 668 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,400 stage 3 being an explicitly key stage 3. 669 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,520 And their their role is essentially, of course they do 670 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,000 teaching, but their role is essentially to manage the 671 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,760 children in that, in that transition. 672 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,840 I think, I think that's key. Like I what I basically don't 673 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,840 want to do is sit here and say, yeah, secondary, it's so 674 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,680 different to primary. I teach primary, kids are so 675 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,960 happy they go to secondary. The whole, I don't think it's an 676 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,280 issue with the people. I think they're doing the best 677 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,920 they can 100%. But what I'm saying, I still 678 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,280 think we can do something in key Stage 3 and it and it feels like 679 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,560 a lot of secondaries are doing that. 680 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,120 Exactly that the end of the day, it's a big change both 681 00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:00,560 personally for a child to go through those, those age jumps 682 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,480 of teenage years and it's a big change literally going from the 683 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,280 school setup of a primary school to a typical school setup of a 684 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,720 secondary school, right? So those things are like, you've 685 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,160 got to factor them in. We can't do everything about 686 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,680 that. I just end with like 1 personal 687 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,880 experience. I don't know if it's more 688 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,400 widespread read for me, but I felt that a primary school, if I 689 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,520 did feel emotional anyway, I really genuinely knew exactly 690 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,800 who's talked to and exactly who to go to, who cared about me 691 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,360 enough that I could just have these conversations like a 692 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:25,240 family liaison officer or even just my teacher because like you 693 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,000 said, I saw them every day constantly. 694 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,760 We didn't have said I just literally got taught by the same 695 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,680 person all day every day. Whereas in secondary school, I 696 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,160 do distinctly remember thinking, particularly when I was old, 697 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,520 like 14/15/16, I was like, I have no idea who to talk to. 698 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,880 Like when I'm feeling whatever I'm feeling, whether it's a 699 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,400 negative emotion, I guess I just didn't know who to go to. 700 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,480 And maybe there were people that people in place and I just 701 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,720 didn't that bridge wasn't built enough for me personally. 702 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,840 Other kids may be thinking what I knew exactly who to go to. 703 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,560 But all I can say is I knew what to do in primary school and I 704 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,000 didn't know who to go to in secondary school. 705 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,200 So there could be some more work done there, maybe just to make 706 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,120 that build that bridge, like you said, of care in a bigger 707 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:01,480 environment where you do have seven different teachers every 708 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,840 single day and not necessarily guaranteed you're going to get 709 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,680 that one teacher like your primary school teacher who you 710 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,600 feel that bond with. Yeah, definitely, for sure. 711 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,280 Completely agree, absolutely cool. 712 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,360 Right next one. I'm looking at starting my 713 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:14,080 reports for the end of the year and have previously been told by 714 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,600 leadership that in no circumstances are we allowed to 715 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,640 use AI to help write them. Any advice on how to get this 716 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,040 job done quickly without tearing my hair out because I can't use 717 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,680 AI? Or even maybe is there something 718 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,040 I could go to my leadership with to suggest that actually I 719 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,560 should be allowed to use it? Number one, if it's really that 720 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,800 much of a problem and your school are like, oh, you can't 721 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,120 use AI, do it anyway because they won't know what are they 722 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:39,240 talking about? Can't you say I all right? 723 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,000 Won't they know? Won't they know? 724 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,640 Great question, champ. Well, it turns out that Bob Hash 725 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,600 Colon had a great year. And that's all down to you like 726 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,080 you, can't you? Can't the massive MD? 727 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,040 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, 100%. 728 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,240 They can't tell if you actually put a little bit of effort into 729 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,600 making it more personalised. Little Johnny had a Goodyear in 730 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,960 Mass. You're damn right he did. 731 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,200 OK, I remember being told a couple of years ago that my by 732 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,840 the head teacher, he was like genuinely blown away of how good 733 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,240 and personalised my reports were. 734 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,600 And I was like wrote all of those of AII thought they are 735 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,880 personalised because I gave it a bullet point list of all of the 736 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,560 personal things literally from my brain that needs to go into 737 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,240 it. But it formed a paragraph for 738 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,080 me. And guess what? 739 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,640 That paragraph was written considerably better than what I 740 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,680 would have written after the 30th iteration of writing 741 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,400 reports. I don't think we need to go into 742 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,080 exactly how to use AI to write reports. 743 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,040 We've done it so often. Go back and look at our 744 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,600 episodes, just search reports in the little search bar because 745 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,040 there'll be something on there that we've talked about 746 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,080 previously. We've had Mr Peon talking about 747 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,640 AI because he he has teach Mate that they do different reports. 748 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,880 So listen, it's a huge part of reports right now. 749 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,760 What I do want to say is this because just based on the back 750 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,360 of what your story that you've just said about the, the head 751 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,160 teacher being shocked how personalised they were, and then 752 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,800 you told him it was AII actually don't think that's good. 753 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,360 I, I no, what let me really clear. 754 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,640 I don't think it's good to use AI genuinely in an environment 755 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,640 where no one knows that it's being used at all. 756 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,720 Right. OK, I, I know we joked before 757 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,280 about just use AI. Let me be really clear why there 758 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,920 has to be really clear rules around safeguarding GDPR, OK, 759 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,920 GDPR and safeguarding in general and uploading personal 760 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,000 information to large language models, OK? 761 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,720 So when we say, and I went a bit too far because when we say in 762 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,280 there, just pretend, I actually think it's also acceptable to 763 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,720 use it. And and you can't tell. 764 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,240 However, there has to be there's there's has to be some threshold 765 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,880 where either you've done some training yourself or you've been 766 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,800 given training around how to do it safely. 767 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,360 That isn't breaking GDPR, that isn't uploading personal 768 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,680 information and names of children to large language 769 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,240 models to do that learning of yeah, yeah, just to generate 770 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:41,600 your. Report. 771 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,920 You know what? That is actually a really, 772 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,840 really good point. The idea that even one person 773 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,840 will listen to that and then use AI listen to me saying that and 774 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,240 then use. AI full names. 775 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,640 Badly with with breaking GDPR guys on T-shirt Pete said to do 776 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,840 it is actually awful. So let's bring it back a little 777 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,440 bit. I still think it's completely 778 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,480 acceptable to use reports. But like Dylan said that if your 779 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,080 school doesn't have an AI policy and you're deciding to go 780 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,760 against the school's rules, which, you know, probably 781 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,560 shouldn't do, but it's me saying anyway, yeah, you have to at 782 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,560 least be GDP compliant yourself. So they've gotten compliance. 783 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,720 So anytime you ever used AI to write a report done. 784 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,640 And ask you right now and I've said this before, but it's so 785 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,800 important to say yeah, yeah, yeah. 786 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,800 What did you do to make sure you were not breaching these basic 787 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,080 things? Firstly, I'm just going to be 788 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,560 really clear to people, there is a difference between us saying 789 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,240 use AI when you're not allowed to and saying still use it 790 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,760 safely. So I'm just saying there's two 791 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,880 things. Panicky. 792 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,200 Now, no, no, no, I'm not panicky. 793 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,600 I'm just what you said. I was like, let's be really 794 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,920 clear to people. Yeah, use it, but use it safely. 795 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,280 It has to be done in terms of what I did when I wrote my 796 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,960 reports. I, I was never, ever using the 797 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,960 names of, of pupils. Yeah, not once. 798 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,480 So I'd, I'd write bullet point list of the, the child that I 799 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,360 was writing about. Like I'd have my Word document 800 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,440 open with their name and maybe some data, etcetera. 801 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,320 And I would have a script where I would have 567 bullet points 802 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,160 and it would just be like one or two words, behaviour, 803 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,600 attainment, F social skills, whatever it is that I want to 804 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,640 include in my report because different schools will have 805 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,960 different needs. So you just have that yourself. 806 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,280 I had this little script, 7 bullet points was like, cool. 807 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,240 So then I sat down and I had the my class list and I'd be like, 808 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,000 right, cool, little Jimmy, let's do him now. 809 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,640 And I won't put that name in obviously. 810 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,720 And it would say OK behaviour and I would say excellently 811 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,000 behaved at all times. Sure. 812 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,320 Done. So you keep it all nameless. 813 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,160 Just really nameless, excellent behaviour at all times. 814 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,360 As simple as that. That's like 6 words. 815 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,200 Yeah, it's 5 words. It's. 816 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,000 Yeah. OK, sorry. 817 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,760 Next one. Social skills. 818 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,320 Struggle to maintain friendships. 819 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,920 This year has a couple of close friends. 820 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,960 Yeah. That'll take me to. 821 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,720 I know this. This is taking no effort 822 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,360 whatsoever because I know the kids at the back of my hand. 823 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,880 I just know it. That'll take me 3 minutes. 824 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,680 Yeah. 3 minutes. Copy, paste. 825 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,560 No names at all. Copy paste into AI. 826 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,640 I would. I would already be telling what 827 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,480 I'm doing. I want a formal written report 828 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,480 based the end of year there. It's for a year 4 class in key 829 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,120 stage 2. Nothing to do location, nothing 830 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,160 to do names, nothing at all that's identifiable for the 831 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,960 school. Nothing that's identifiable for 832 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,920 the child. Go say, OK, cool. 833 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,560 Send me your notes. I send the notes in. 834 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,000 It will generate a paragraph, copy, paste. 835 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,800 And I'd say to it, whenever you would write a name in here, 836 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,880 leave a blank. Yeah. 837 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,680 Or put a question mark, whatever it was, whatever it is. 838 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,520 So I copy it into the report. And what's great then is I'm 839 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,880 going to read this through anyway and make any amendments. 840 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,520 Yeah. What forces me to do that is the 841 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,320 fact there's no names in it. Yeah, so you have to read them. 842 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,200 So I. Have to read it through so 843 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,920 there's no names in it. Now I copy it over every time 844 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,080 there's a blank I write in the name and I'm reading the report. 845 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,400 Oh actually I don't like that wording. 846 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,920 It's a bit off to change that, or I wanted to make sure I put 847 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,520 this in about the club. Actually, I forgot to write 848 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,320 that. Write that in. 849 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,200 So what you're doing here essentially is you're writing 850 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,680 the report, you're putting every bit of information in through 851 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,040 the bullet points. It's just putting it into some 852 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,480 prose for you, which reads nicely and is professional. 853 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,040 And then you're going through editing anyway because you're 854 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,600 adding in the name to me. That process for me produced the 855 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,080 best reports ever, ever, ever. And. 856 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,960 Shaved lots of time off absolutely right. 857 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,280 And I know for some people, and it's interesting, I've had 858 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,440 discussions about people that were like they swear by doing 859 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,960 exactly that and they really like the time that goes into an 860 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,400 effort is putting the bullet points. 861 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,640 Basically. There are some people I did this 862 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,200 once as well and I thought it was quite good where I just I 863 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,560 had the meta list of bullet points that I wanted, like you 864 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,160 said, like I'd have a thing that says something about behaviour, 865 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,000 something about attainment, something about this, this, this 866 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,120 and this. And then I would literally use a 867 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,200 voice to text like, so when I talked AI and I just literally 868 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,480 tell it rather than me typing it down, I'd literally say this, 869 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,880 this and this, this kid, this does this. 870 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,400 They behave really well. A couple of friends, they 871 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,880 struggled back in turn 1 with this thing. 872 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,000 And then I just, I didn't have to type it. 873 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,360 I'd just tell AI to do it that way. 874 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,640 So that saved me a little bit more time. 875 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,200 But I do realise that you have to be quite confident just to 876 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,160 reel it off the Dome without stopping and thinking whilst 877 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,480 you're typing. And making sure that you don't 878 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,920 accidentally just say, oh, yeah, and. 879 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,680 And Ava, his mate. Yeah. 880 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,520 Just be careful you don't say so exactly when you're typing. 881 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,560 You can curate it. That's true. 882 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,760 That's good point, yeah. So I think I basically it's gone 883 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,440 off on a tangent slightly. I think I think it is absolutely 884 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,360 should be used for reports because I think hopefully for 885 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,160 some people who are unsure about maybe the personalisation aspect 886 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,920 of it, I'm hoping that's explained how it is still 887 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,120 actually quite personable. Yeah. 888 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,000 Because it has to come from you. It can't be made. 889 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,120 It can't be plucked out of thin air. 890 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,800 Absolutely. So when you said, or maybe even 891 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,440 something I could take to my head to suggest why we should be 892 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,440 allowed to use it, maybe you can to summarise some of this 893 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,040 conversation we've just had. That shows how it can be 894 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,679 completely GDPR compliant, completely safe and also produce 895 00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:13,920 really good personalised reports. 896 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,639 Still take that conversation to them. 897 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:19,040 That ultimately is better, jokes aside, than just saying to them, 898 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,440 yeah, whatever, and going off and hoping that you follow. 899 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,120 GDPR compliance. Yourself and potentially risking 900 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,719 your job. Maybe don't do the thing I said 901 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,120 at the start, which I'm now thinking. 902 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,159 No. And if no, but I think it is 903 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,600 about safety. If you're for example, a lot of 904 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,400 the products out there that do report generation, they are GDPR 905 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,280 compliant. It's a company, they, they will 906 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,199 say we have built this to be GDP compliant, We've built this to 907 00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:42,960 be safeguarding compliant wherever it might be. 908 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,000 So then you know, you can put in what you want. 909 00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:47,440 It doesn't save anything either. It will tell, it will make sure 910 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,639 for you. So that's when using that kind 911 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,480 of scaffold around it, rather than just going to a large 912 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,679 language model, you have your own. 913 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,800 That's where it can be better to do because you know, it's 914 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,840 protected. You can still do the large 915 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,600 language model, which is just your own personal account. 916 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,560 You just have to be very mindful of the fact that you cannot give 917 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,320 any identifying features away of any children. 918 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,120 OK, reverse everything I just said about being safe. 919 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,080 Go back to the the original 1 where I was saying be reckless 920 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,520 and be a rebel. If you're really worried about 921 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,160 doing it just school you can't be bothered to have the 922 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,440 conversation with your school. Just use something like Teach My 923 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,520 AI or Rocket AI where they put all that scaffolding for you and 924 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,320 they've made it safeguard to compliant and do it anyway. 925 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,280 Should we make our own one? I think we should, yeah. 926 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,200 Should we? It's going to be called. 927 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,000 It's going to be called Teach Sleep, Report, repeat. 928 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,920 Oh. Teach, sleep, report, repeat. 929 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,520 You kept repeating. But I just want you have to do 930 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,440 more than one report. That's true. 931 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,040 So teach. But you have to teach and sleep 932 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,280 before you do your next report. Yeah, I was. 933 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,200 Yeah, between. Each one takes a few months. 934 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,120 We'll work on it. We'll. 935 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,240 Work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 936 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:43,560 Anyway, next question. I love teaching, but I cannot 937 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,200 afford to live. Doesn't that isn't that 2026 in 938 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,760 a nutshell? There pretty much just someone 939 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,000 saying who's got a job that as a professional, I can't afford to 940 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,880 live. Brilliant. 941 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,160 I'm single, in my 30s, I rent and I can't save a penny. 942 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,600 At what point is it irresponsible to stay in a job 943 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,160 that you love but that keeps you financially stuck? 944 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,520 It feels like any jump into a new career would mean a pay cut 945 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,360 that I can I cannot afford even though 5 to 10 years down the 946 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,160 line I would be in a better position. 947 00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:10,960 How normal? How normal is it? 948 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,880 Very, very normal. I feel like it really like we're 949 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,680 living up to the name repeat in our podcast because I feel like 950 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,560 I hear this sort of thing a lot. Like you're worried about this 951 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,880 sort of thing asking similar sort. 952 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,880 Of questions I I very clearly, very quickly anyone listening as 953 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,840 well. I'd love to know if you can 954 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,520 leave a comment down in the Spotify section or whatever, 955 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,720 wherever you are listening to this. 956 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,280 How many people that you work with have you had this exact 957 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,440 conversation with where they say these words? 958 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,400 I would love to find a different job, but I don't know what to 959 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,200 do. I can't afford the pay cut. 960 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,040 Yeah. How many? 961 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,960 I I, I, so many people said like it's, it's scarily high as a 962 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,960 percentage of teachers I've worked with who genuinely think 963 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,000 that it's like it's genuinely like 25. 964 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,080 Percent isn't isn't that so like depressing on society though? 965 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,880 Because simultaneously that person is saying typically I 966 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,320 don't earn enough money in this job. 967 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,800 Yeah, to live my life properly. Yeah. 968 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,120 And I can't quit because other jobs I earn even less. 969 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,200 Yeah. Like how old? 970 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,520 Like, and but that's, that is genuinely like, firstly, there 971 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,040 are other jobs that earn less than the teacher. 972 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,960 Yeah. So when we talk about teachers 973 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,880 not earning enough, it's not us being rude to those people as 974 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,080 well. It's just saying, yeah, God, 975 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,720 that's crap as well. Yeah, exactly. 976 00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:20,400 But this is a job where you get a qualification, you go to 977 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,360 university, it's professional. It's very important. 978 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,360 You should be able to afford to live as a single person in this 979 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,640 society. If you work as a full time 980 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,040 teacher. What we, what we're talking 981 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,200 about, you should be able to afford to live. 982 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,880 But the point, the point also is that regardless of that, even 983 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,600 when you go into a career which has more of a, let's say the 984 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,320 ceiling's much higher of what you can eventually earn, you 985 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,520 have to put the grunt work in at the start where you're not 986 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,440 earning as much. Now that's easier to do when 987 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,680 you're 22 because you might be living at home still, you've not 988 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,120 moved out yet. You can take that hit because, 989 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,920 you know, OK, I'm going to earn 20 grand for four years as a 990 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,760 teacher. I'd be on 30 grand by the end of 991 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:56,280 that. Wow. 992 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,800 Teaching's much better for the short term. 993 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,800 But that person also knows that as a childhood surveyor, by the 994 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,440 time they're 35, they'll be on 80 grand. 995 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,560 Yeah, right. So as if you're in your 30s now 996 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,640 and you're thinking, oh, gosh, I wish I could do that. 997 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,200 That would be great. I could earn lots more money. 998 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,040 But you actually, at that point in your life, can't afford to do 999 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,160 the four years at 20 grand. Then people get stuck like this. 1000 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,560 Yeah, definitely, definitely. It's it's a horrible feeling 1001 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,640 horrible. Like I I what? 1002 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,840 What do you? Because I feel like you quite 1003 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,520 often have opinions on this. You're laughing. 1004 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,600 You could say that about anything. 1005 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:25,960 Yeah. Yeah. 1006 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,720 Just click that. But you, no, you have, you have, 1007 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:30,920 I feel like you have quite a strong opinion on like almost 1008 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,560 like a motivational opinion. Normally you, you quite often 1009 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,960 will say something along the lines of find a way to do it. 1010 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,000 Do you know what I mean? Like. 1011 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,320 Yeah, but I, I, again, I hopefully when I say this kind 1012 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,760 of stuff, I, I absolutely want to make clear to people now that 1013 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,080 I I hate it when you hear these gurus online saying just work 1014 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,040 harder like you. Yeah, I hate, it's not like me. 1015 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,720 It's the opposite of me. Should be really clear. 1016 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:56,080 That's not what I think. I hate it when I say I'll just 1017 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,360 work harder. You know Simon Squibb. 1018 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,640 Yeah, right. Fantastic. 1019 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,160 What he's doing. Look him up, genuinely look him 1020 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,800 up. He goes around with a with a 1021 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,280 microphone. Ask people what their dream is. 1022 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:06,760 Yeah. OK. 1023 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,800 Yeah, yeah. Nice content, lovely. 1024 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,160 It's great. Everyone should have a dream, 1025 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,200 right? If everyone did that, we 1026 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,280 wouldn't have fundamentally important roles happening in our 1027 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,760 society. It is a nice thing, and I don't 1028 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,680 want to be the person to say people shouldn't follow their 1029 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,560 dreams. Like, what a ridiculous thing 1030 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,800 you'd have to end up saying. However, we do need teachers. 1031 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,720 Yeah, this, this person in their 30s who's single, who rents, who 1032 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,280 can't afford to save up for a deposit to get their own house, 1033 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,480 who can't afford to save money and invest for their future. 1034 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,680 That person doesn't need someone to come along and say what's 1035 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,360 your dream? What do you want to do? 1036 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,520 What do you want to do? What do you do? 1037 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,600 If you do anything, what can you do? 1038 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,600 Yeah, go and do it, man. They can't do it. 1039 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,880 They would have done it if they could, Right. 1040 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,480 So there has to be a middle ground. 1041 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,800 That's my point here. It should be completely normal 1042 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,920 and acceptable that you can just work as a full time teacher and 1043 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,880 get on in life. That needs to be the baseline in 1044 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,520 my opinion. That's not happening right now. 1045 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,400 Yeah. So that if you're a single 1046 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,280 person on one income living on your own, you need to be able to 1047 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,480 sustain yourself properly in any job you do in a society that's 1048 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,640 remotely functioning. OK. 1049 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,920 That's the that's the baseline, the next level, which is where I 1050 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,080 come in and say, look, OK, let's look at your individual 1051 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,880 situation and what you can do as an individual. 1052 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,480 Now ignore the fact everyone can't do this. 1053 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,120 I know everyone can't do this. And I think as generic advice, 1054 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,880 it's just awful. And it just makes people feel 1055 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,360 bad for doing what is an absolutely acceptable thing in 1056 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,240 their life, ends up making them feel bad for thinking I'm not 1057 00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:32,760 getting by. And this job that I'm doing, you 1058 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,440 should be getting by. And it's not a you problem. 1059 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,920 It's a system problem. Next level up, though, you're 1060 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,640 talking to someone on an individual level. 1061 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,000 If they're single in their 30s and they rent and they can't 1062 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,400 afford to pay money, I'm actually trying to help them. 1063 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,360 I'm actually trying to help them now. 1064 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,920 And I'm saying, OK, look, we all agree this is nonsense, but this 1065 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,160 is the situation we're in. What can we do about it? 1066 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,680 Yeah, Option one, go to a lower paying job and take the hit for 1067 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,840 a bit. Let's look at your finances. 1068 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,040 You literally can't afford to do that. 1069 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,440 There's nowhere local you can move to to rent for less because 1070 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,400 that's the level of rent that's not an option for you. 1071 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,400 What else can we do? OK, you are a teacher. 1072 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,760 Can we reduce your workload so that you can spend more of your 1073 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,080 holidays trying something different? 1074 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:05,840 Yeah. You get 13 weeks off a year. 1075 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,840 I, I granted for you personally right now, I bet you work for 1076 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,080 loads of those 13 weeks. How can we reduce that workload 1077 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,000 to stay within your, the quality of your teaching that doesn't 1078 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,680 impact that, but that gives you more time. 1079 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,200 That is definitely something we can action. 1080 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,320 Cool. We've made more time now. 1081 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,920 OK, cool. Now that I've made this time, 1082 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,120 how can I spend this time either doing something I'm passionate 1083 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,600 about or something I'm good at? Yeah, hopefully it's the same 1084 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,360 thing. But whatever it might be, it 1085 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,520 could be, it could be literally anything. 1086 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,200 It might literally be tutoring because that's your job. 1087 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,760 Can you do some tutoring? Can you put yourself out a 1088 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,160 little bit more? Can you do a few social, social 1089 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,840 media posts, all actionable small things that you can at 1090 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,280 least try. It might not work, but you can 1091 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,760 at least try to do that. These are the 2 levels that I'm 1092 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,480 working at and this is what I want to make really clear to 1093 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,680 people. That bottom layer is the most 1094 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,800 important one. You need to understand that it 1095 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,720 is not a you problem that you work as a full time teacher in 1096 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:53,840 your 30s and you can't afford to save for a deposit right now. 1097 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,080 That is a systemic problem. That is not a you problem. 1098 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,200 You should carry no burden of that as a personal guilt 1099 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,720 whatsoever. The next level though, is where 1100 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,080 I think what your point making is that I talk about this. 1101 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,360 What can you do? I think there is still always 1102 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,200 something you can do though, and whether other people choose to 1103 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,440 do that or not is their prerogative. 1104 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,240 But for you, if you want to try and do something, there's 1105 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:15,240 usually something that you can try and do. 1106 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,200 And it might not work, but it might, and you'd at least like 1107 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,840 to try. I like, I always like that 1108 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,680 analogy and and I do think it falls into that risky area of 1109 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,880 just saying people just work harder because it's basically 1110 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,960 saying sacrifice your hard earned time off and use that to 1111 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,360 maybe try and retrain in a new job. 1112 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,320 Use a percentage of that time, if it's a small percentage to 1113 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,080 try and learn a new skill or get qualified so that you can 1114 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,560 transition into another job without having to just straight 1115 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,920 up quit and then spend 2 years training on no income. 1116 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,320 I get it. But it's sort of like like you 1117 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,400 said in that exact situation though, you're talking to that 1118 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,080 exact person. They're saying, what can I do? 1119 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,800 That is an option though for you. 1120 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,960 You don't have to do it. You don't have to do it. 1121 00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:55,800 I did think of an option free. You're already, I know, I know. 1122 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,440 It's going to be mental option. Free if you're in this 1123 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,040 situation, just get married to someone random who earns income 1124 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,200 and then you. That will help if you rent. 1125 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:05,200 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 1126 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,640 So that's option free. Can I marry you? 1127 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,600 You how much do you earn? That's the only question that I 1128 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,560 need to know in this. Situation, you'll find that we 1129 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,280 earn exactly the same amount of teacher. 1130 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,560 I know what you earn in that Case, No. 1131 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,240 I need someone not that sugar partner who earns. 1132 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,040 More to my sugar marriage, daddy. 1133 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,080 Ohh, gosh, I hope that I hope you understand what we're saying 1134 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,600 there and I think it is important, right? 1135 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,400 Let's stop there. And these questions we've still 1136 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,640 got here to go through. Let's not just forget they exist 1137 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,720 and leave them in the next week, every week. 1138 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:39,400 So we'll carry on next week and we'll actually use all the 1139 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,120 questions we get sent. We love it when you send us 1140 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,760 questions. 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