1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,920 Hello, everybody, welcome to this episode of the disc golf 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,040 answer man I'm Bobby, cool daddy, slick breeze, and my 3 00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:13,560 guest today is Mr. Charles Rector. 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,000 Is that how you pronounce the last name? 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,640 Just correct. All right. 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,280 And so how I came across Charles is, of course, I was doing my my 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,800 normal disc golf watching on YouTube and here pops up a 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,920 master lined masters line disc golf. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,080 And I remember the topic was something about throwing over 40 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,760 or playing disc golf over 40. I'm like, well, this really 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,000 applies to me. Let me see what this guy has to 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,560 say. And I really liked your approach 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,200 to the whole thing of as you get older, you start realizing that 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,040 it takes a little bit more. You can still get out, enjoy 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,760 playing disc golf for many, many, many years, but you got to 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,400 do a little bit more to make sure that you can continue to 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,880 play disc golf without injury. And so I thought that was a 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,760 great message that people need to hear about. 19 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,760 So, but anyway, how are you doing today, Charles? 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,000 Hey, I'm doing great. Appreciate you having me. 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,840 You know, and excited to to talk with everybody and get this 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,480 message out. Yeah, so tell us real quick, I 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,320 like to ask people what what's kind of your, your elevator 24 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:14,120 pitch? What's your disc golf story? 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:21,120 Well, you know, 2016, I was with some buddies of mine and we were 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:26,200 driving through a campsite and there was these chains and metal 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,000 things hang out in this field. Like what is that? 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,120 And they're like, I think it may be something called disc golf. 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,720 So we pulled up to the Ranger station and went in. 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,560 Sure enough it was and they rented us some disc and we went 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,960 out and, you know, that was it. We were hooked from that day on. 32 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:43,400 We went and left and we went bought our own disc and have 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,800 been playing ever since and it's it's been a great thing. 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,880 Wow, that's cool. That's awesome. 35 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,880 And then So what made you decide to start this YouTube channel? 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,800 Because you're you only have like 4 or five videos. 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,800 So it's really just just started. 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Was that your first time ever getting into like content 39 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:03,200 creation or you had you done other things in other areas of 40 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,600 interest? No, it's my first time. 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,840 My, my son and my, both my boys and my wife had been on me for a 42 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,200 while to do a channel and I just kept telling him, no, that's not 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,920 for me. You know, this, that, and, and 44 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:19,800 then a few years ago I went through, you know, 2024, it was 45 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,720 like my injury year. I started out with an injury and 46 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,880 I just kept getting injured and injured And finally I tore my 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:32,280 meniscus and had to have surgery on it and I ended up recovering 48 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,320 from it pretty good. But that meniscus doesn't 49 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:40,080 doesn't heal as heal as you know, So I started realizing 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,280 pretty quick that, you know, I'm playing, but I'm still aching 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,840 and I'm limping and I can't throw the way I was throwing. 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,080 I can't play as much as I planned because I would go out 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,080 and try to throw too hard too much and I'd end up having to 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,120 take the next day off. So I was like, man, I really got 55 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,840 to look at my my game and started trying to figure out 56 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,400 ways I was going to to prolong me playing because I knew it 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,200 wasn't going to last if I was playing the way I am. 58 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:10,040 So after their discussion, I had a buddy of mine who started his 59 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,960 own channel, a totally different type. 60 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,640 And man, they got louder on me. They're like, hey, you got to do 61 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:17,640 a channel, you know. So I've, you know, being a 62 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:21,240 teacher and a coach, I've always been that kind of person that 63 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,680 wants to coach and get that out there. 64 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,360 So I was like, well, what, what could I do? 65 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,640 And I got on YouTube and there's just nothing out there for 66 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:30,720 masters level, you know, dealing with kind of injuries and trying 67 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,560 to change your game so you can play. 68 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,600 So I thought, well, maybe I can do that. 69 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,760 So I, I started writing and jotting down things and started 70 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,120 getting ideas and it just kind of snowballed and, and December 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,760 I took the leap and, and, and started it. 72 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,920 And I have my first video up pretty quick after that and just 73 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,720 trying to keep it going. I love it, I love it. 74 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,240 I love the idea of just the, you know, I love that people were 75 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,400 trying to get you to do it and that you just finally said, all 76 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,320 right, let me just do it. Let me just put it out there and 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,360 see what happens. I love that. 78 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,400 We're going to kind of talk about it in two parts, because I 79 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,960 want to talk about the content creation side of it because I 80 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,120 find that interesting. But first I want to talk about 81 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,040 more on the coaching side, the whole point of your channel. 82 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,720 So tell us a little bit about what what's the message you're 83 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,959 trying to get out there with this Masters Line disc off 84 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:21,200 YouTube channel? OK, I, I just like to let people 85 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,440 know that we're all going through the same thing. 86 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,000 You know, you get online and you try to look up things for 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,200 masters or anything like that and you've got a kid bombing 88 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,720 something 600 foot and our bombs don't bomb like that anymore. 89 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,400 So and maybe never bombed like that, but so we're just trying 90 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,560 to get something out there where we could say, OK, I can't do 91 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,640 that. How do I make adjustments to my 92 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,760 game where I can throw, you know, longer, you know, you 93 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,600 might have good distance now you want to keep that distance. 94 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:52,560 So what what can changes can you do? 95 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:57,480 Because that, for example, that 13 speed disc still may be 96 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,280 getting you some distance, but it's going to start tailing off 97 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:02,520 a little bit because you can't get that speed anymore. 98 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,000 And all of a sudden you realize, you know, you're throwing in a a 99 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,120 slower speed. Just disk is just as far. 100 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,800 And that's what happened to me is my sheriff and my Raider. 101 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,640 I, I was out doing field work and lo and behold, my brave was 102 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,440 sitting there within 1015 foot of my sheriff and Raider and I 103 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,200 was like little 7 speed sitting there. 104 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,560 What's going on? And I was quickly realizing that 105 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,080 I may not be hitting the speed to get that 13 up there where it 106 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,280 needs to be. And I wasn't having to work as 107 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:33,080 hard with that 7 speed to get it out there. 108 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,040 So I just like to get it out there and let people know 109 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:42,480 different ways to adjust their game and you know, you know, 110 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,920 aspects of the game like warming up, how important it is. 111 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,880 Because I, I really think going back to my knee injury was a lot 112 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,760 of the warming up because I, I've not been a great person at 113 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,720 warming up early on. I just go start out slow and 114 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,640 just start playing. And I really think some of that 115 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,080 may have led to that. So I'm trying to get that out 116 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,120 there and just let people know there's a voice out there that's 117 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,960 listening and we're all, we're all in it together and we can, 118 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,600 we can figure it out. So let's start with disk 119 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,800 selection. And you mentioned about that how 120 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,760 you realize that the high speed drivers users weren't getting 121 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,040 them up to speed. So how do you how does one 122 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,640 determine how does one start realizing at what point? 123 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,280 And this could even be good information for beginners, 124 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:31,160 right, that that can't quite the disc to get the disc up to 125 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,080 speed. So tell us a little bit, break 126 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,240 that down in your words about the disc speed and how you need 127 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,400 to kind of realize that maybe you're throwing something a 128 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,280 little too. Fast. 129 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,200 OK, Yeah. So if you're out there and 130 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,960 you're, you know, you got good form, good technique, but that 131 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,920 thing is just not pushing as far as it used to. 132 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,240 It's starting to where it was still carrying. 133 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,920 All of a sudden it's starting to fade out a little earlier. 134 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,760 That's probably a good sign that you're not hitting that top 135 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,720 speed of that that distance driver anymore. 136 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,080 And the best thing you can do is look kind of like I said with me 137 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,000 and I went out and I just did field work and I just watch, 138 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,480 watch how those discs are flying. 139 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,600 Are they flying the way they were five years ago? 140 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,920 You start seeing a little bit of a difference in them. 141 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,840 Then, you know, throw that 10 speed out there and see what it 142 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,360 does. And if it's carrying and getting 143 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,640 a little bit of turn that used to get with the other disc, 144 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,320 it's, it's probably a good sign that you're just not hitting 145 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,800 that speed anymore. My, my buddy, he, he got a 146 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,880 motive and it changed his game. He he, it's a lighter disc of 147 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,960 course, and it's just a 7 speed I believe, right? 148 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,800 I think so I can look it up while you're talking about it, 149 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,840 but just to make sure. A little slower speed and man, 150 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,440 it changed his game. It was a funny story. 151 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,800 I was in our local disc golf store, local route here in 152 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,880 Joplin, MO, and I grabbed one. I was like, oh, I love the fill 153 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,400 of this. This thing's super light. 154 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,080 I need to call Rick's. And the guy was working there 155 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,080 was like, oh, he's already been in and bought four of them about 156 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,760 20 minutes ago. So it was perfect. 157 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,760 And man, we got out the next day and he was, he was hitting lines 158 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,320 and he was, he was just, I was like, man, that just changed 159 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,720 your game. It's just that lighter weight 160 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,920 disc and that slower speed. He wasn't having to throw his 161 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,320 hard. And he looked at me because I my 162 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,000 shoulder is even liking it because he's starting to having 163 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,240 some shoulder issue because I don't have to put as much on it. 164 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,920 So just kind of listen to your body, if it's aching after 165 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,480 you're throwing and you're you're not getting that distance 166 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,160 you were getting, it might be time to just go do some field 167 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,520 work and see if that 7 speed, 8 speed something when there's 168 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,640 going to give you that distance you're looking for. 169 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:38,960 Yeah, it's a, I'd looked it up at the speed 8. 170 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,760 So yeah, it's one of the, it's a more of a considered a fairway 171 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,000 driver, but still a great, you know, like you said. 172 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,360 And there were times where I had that realization where I was 173 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,480 throwing the trespass, you know, speed 12 and I start had to 174 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,680 realize that, you know, and then I noticed like, wow, I'm 175 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:56,640 throwing my motive just as far or, or, you know, some other 176 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,000 discs back in the day. And it's kind of a almost an ego 177 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,560 thing. Sometimes I think it gets in 178 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:03,600 people's mind, right? They're like, I should be, you 179 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,880 know, because it seems like speed 12 is the one that 180 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,040 everybody goes at for, right? Because the big, big, big pros 181 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,720 are throwing those speed 12 discs and doing amazing things 182 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,400 with it. And so you almost feel like, 183 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,720 man, shouldn't I be throwing a speed 12? 184 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,560 You know, if I'm, if I'm going to be doing any this big time 185 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,560 level and throwing far, I should be throwing a speed 12. 186 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:24,480 But you know, I had to come to realize that as well. 187 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,400 When you, OK, so let's say I guess what it sounds like speed 188 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:33,000 7 speed 8 is a good way or good one to, to try out and then kind 189 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,360 of go from there. Do you have any advice for like, 190 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,160 let's say I'm throwing speed 7, speed 8 and it's, it's working 191 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,680 pretty good. Does that mean I should start 192 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:43,320 going speed 10 or, or what is it? 193 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,320 Where should I? Kind of as maybe a sweet spot 194 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,680 for the people over 40? But you just kind of look and 195 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:52,520 see if you, if you're throwing that 7 speed, 8 speed and it's 196 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,160 getting a good turn, maybe turn it over a little bit more than 197 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,800 it should. Then you could move up to 910 198 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,080 speed and, and, and just see if it's getting that flight that 199 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,600 it, you know that it says it's supposed to get. 200 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,280 If it's if it's not getting a little bit of turn and should be 201 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,840 it's just getting a an immediate fade, then you're probably 202 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,120 pushing your upper limits. Got you know what is it? 203 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,800 Is anything affected as far as like mid range, as far as speed 204 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,040 or is that a little bit different than treatment 205 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,160 distance driver? Like throwing a mid range? 206 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,360 Is that what you're asking? Yeah. 207 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,400 Like if you're you're starting to realize, OK, speed 8, speed 208 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,680 9-7, something like that, it's really good for me because of my 209 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:32,440 age and my skill level. Does that affect the mid ranges 210 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,600 that you're picking? Oh, for me, no, I, I like my mid 211 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,400 ranges. You know, I for me that they're, 212 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,800 they're just a, a disc that, that you kind of look and point 213 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,200 and shoot. If you're trying to get a 214 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,520 straight shot, then you're going to get you a compass or 215 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,280 something like that. If you're needing that good 216 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,440 fade, you're probably going to look at an overstable disk, 217 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:01,400 maybe a justice or something like that. the IT feels like to 218 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,960 me that the, the mid ranges, we all have a easier time getting 219 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,000 to, to the speed that they need to get the flight that they they 220 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,840 need. I always try to tell people, you 221 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,520 know, in our league, like if they're just coming out, we have 222 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,400 a lot of new folks. I'm like start with a mid range, 223 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,320 start working there and see how you're doing. 224 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,600 And once you get those to where they're flying good, then move 225 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,040 up to a, a lower fairway driver and then work your way up. 226 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,400 And it's kind of like we talked about and it, it, it's, it's 227 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,400 worked well for them. Yeah, I remember when I first 228 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,240 took my wife course we were dating so we were just dating 229 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,520 boyfriend, girlfriend, but I remember giving her a putter to 230 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,680 throw and then she would see me throw and she goes, well, how 231 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:45,160 come I don't can't throw the ones you're throwing. 232 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,280 I was like, trust me, please trust me. 233 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,280 Of course I did it a nice way because I was trying to impress 234 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,240 her, but obviously and then it helped me impress her by me 235 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,080 throwing, although I don't throw far to her. 236 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,320 I was throwing very far. So anyway, that's another 237 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:59,200 another story for another episode, I suppose. 238 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,640 But yeah, I always tell people to start out with putters or mid 239 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,000 ranges because you're going to figure out a little bit more 240 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,640 about your throw before you get with those high speed drivers. 241 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,440 They they tell you the whole story. 242 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,840 Do I? They'll tell you the whole 243 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,800 story, where your mistakes are they they? 244 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,520 Let's let's dive into that. So so let's say I haven't been 245 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,320 raised and I go out to the field and start throwing. 246 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,920 What? What am I looking for to tell me 247 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,160 what molds I should be picking up? 248 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,840 Well, if you're trying to get, you know, if you're just going 249 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,120 out and you're just, you're particularly wanting to look for 250 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,000 something that's throwing a wooded course or something, 251 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,920 you're looking for a straight disc, if you will. 252 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,120 You're looking for that thing to, to come out of your hand and 253 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,720 stay flat and cruise at 100 and 5200 foot. 254 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,000 And if, if it's a a stable disk, it's going to it's going to stay 255 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,040 on that and then a light fade at the end. 256 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,120 And if you're getting a little bit of turn out of it and that's 257 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,120 what you want, that's perfect. If you're getting a little too 258 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,880 much, then you may have to look at moving that stability over to 259 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,960 a little more stable. Got you. 260 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,080 Very cool. All right, so let's switch to 261 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,600 actual play. So we're talking for people over 262 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,280 40, right? What do they need to start 263 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,320 thinking about as they pull up to the disc golf course and 264 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,760 they're ready to play a full 18 hole round? 265 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,840 What do we need to start thinking about as a guy over 40 266 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,760 or a man or woman over 40? Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of lot 267 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,080 more thinking than it used to be. 268 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,480 Used to be just hop out and go meet your buddies and, and go. 269 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,200 But you know, for me, I, I roll up to the course now and I'll 270 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,320 try to get there. If I'm meeting some friends at 271 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,880 4, I'm usually there 10-15 minutes early and getting 272 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,720 everything around and I'll start doing my warmups. 273 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,640 You know, everybody's got their own little warmups, but I'll, 274 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,000 I'll go through a 5 minute warm up and if I'm maybe sore, more 275 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,880 sore than usual, I'll go a little longer, work on a certain 276 00:13:54,880 --> 00:14:01,080 area and then I'll, I'll even go out and throw the a shorter hole 277 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,280 a few times. Just going through the motions 278 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:06,560 and just getting my body ready and heated up like that. 279 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:10,760 Yeah. What are some of the route, What 280 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,360 are some of the the warm up like, like walk us through? 281 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:15,680 Is it a routine? A specific routine you do? 282 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,920 I do. I have a specific routine. 283 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:23,840 I've posted a video of one of my habits, but it's, I have a band 284 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,480 that I use and I'll go through some band work with it. 285 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:34,160 And then I have a, a rope, it's a flow rope that I do some flow 286 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,000 rope drills over my head, just shoulder work. 287 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:43,400 And then I have a weighted bar that I use that I, I go through 288 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,520 throwing motions. I go through shoulder motions 289 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,000 just trying to go through all the motions from a forehand 290 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,880 motion to a backhand motion, just trying to get that. 291 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:57,560 And I have a my my hips and lower back get tight so if 292 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,960 they're feeling tight I'll go through some stretches with them 293 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,920 and warm ups with them too. How long are you usually doing 294 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,960 each little warm up? Depends. 295 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,640 A lot of times I'm going like 30 seconds to a minute trying to 296 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,360 get each one going. I can tell when it starts to 297 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,640 feel like it's getting the blood flowing and getting warm. 298 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,240 Then I'm I'm feeling pretty good and I'll move on. 299 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,480 But like I said, if I'm a little more sore than usual, then I'll 300 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,240 stay with that one a little bit longer, trying to make sure that 301 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,520 I'm getting it ready. Got you. 302 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,800 And then so, OK, so you're getting warmed up, ready to go, 303 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,640 ready to throw your first throw. Like are are you thinking that 304 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,280 maybe? I mean, I guess what I'm 305 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,040 thinking is is when I get out there and I'm ready to go, and 306 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,000 especially if I'm in tournament mode, right, If I'm playing a 307 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,320 tournament or for or if we're like we got some money on the 308 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,160 line, I'm with some buddies or something like that. 309 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,160 I tend to maybe kind of throw hard on the first few holes. 310 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,400 It what is that telling you? If I'm after one or two holes, 311 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,720 I'm starting to feel it in my shoulder. 312 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,160 What's that kind of telling me? You may need to just slow up 313 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,960 that day. You may have slept wrong. 314 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,760 A lot of lot of things with our bodies. 315 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,360 You know as well as I do you can go to bed feeling great and wake 316 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,880 up and you got in some kind of fight your dream and you're sore 317 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,880 everywhere. You're looking like Michael 318 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,600 Keaton Batman everywhere. So it would immediately tell me 319 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,560 that I need to address it and don't throw as hard. 320 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,640 Lay up a little bit late, lay a slow up a little bit on my 321 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,240 approach and just work on my movements and not worry about 322 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,520 that $5 you got with a buddy. Because I know sometimes it's 323 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,320 not the money, it's just them and it's kind of what this belts 324 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,440 for back here. Yeah, I see the belt for our 325 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,920 audio listeners that you need to go check out the YouTube video 326 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,960 and see these this belt he's got behind her because we're going 327 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,400 to get into that here in a little bit. 328 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,720 Tell me real quick like is there anything different I'm putting 329 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,560 in my bag to help as over 40 year old playing? 330 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,920 Well, I always carry what I call I'd be throwing ibuprofen. 331 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:06,000 So all the guys right here, but I I have, you know, my knee 332 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,640 brace I carry in case I need it. I have just a bio freeze, just 333 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,599 things like that. In case I feel some aches coming 334 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:19,079 on, I'll I'll biofreeze them and you know that that's that's my 335 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:22,280 big, big ones there. Is there anything that you're 336 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,800 doing different during your round to kind of make sure that 337 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,160 you're taking care of your body? Once I'm warmed up, I'm just 338 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,880 playing and I'm, I'm, I'm trying to make sure that I'm focused 339 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,920 and as long as I don't have any, like you said, little pains come 340 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,760 up. I don't adjust my game. 341 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,160 I've know I've warmed up and I've know I'm ready to go. 342 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,800 But if anything starts, ailments start showing up, then that's 343 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,240 when I'm like, OK, there's a red flag. 344 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:54,720 I need to stretch in between holes or I need to start 345 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:55,960 lighting up something. I did. 346 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,360 I tweaked something and you know, you know, it's like I do 347 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:03,760 sometimes it it'll pass in a couple holes and you're like, 348 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,200 OK, it was just a warning, warning shot. 349 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,600 Trust the bow. I'm good. 350 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,320 Any advice on any particular type of shoes that help out? 351 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:18,960 Oh, you know, there's for me. I I have my vans I wear now. 352 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:25,400 I like those. I feel like for, for my planting 353 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,640 and turning my, my, my leg, I, I get a better, smoother release 354 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,720 on that. I was throwing in some sheet 355 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,200 like running shoes, but I think it's all based on what you, you 356 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,440 like. I know for me, I, I, I like 357 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,520 something that I can walk in and get done with the round. 358 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,000 I don't feel like my legs are dead. 359 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,480 And you said you've been playing since 2016, is that we said? 360 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,480 Yes, Sir. In 2016? 361 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,880 How old were you in 2016? 39. 39 OK, so pretty close. 362 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,880 So have as you've aged? Has anything changed in your 363 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:06,560 form as you get older? Well, when I first started 364 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:13,240 playing, I was forehand only. I had shoulder surgery and I 365 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,080 went out and we played. Now it was killing me. 366 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,520 I was like, I can't throw back in. 367 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,440 And so I started throwing forehand and then as I played 368 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,720 longer, I started getting my form down and my shoulder 369 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,640 doesn't bother me anymore. I, I throw backhand 370 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,080 predominantly now. So the, the big key for me was 371 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,640 just working on my form and technique and making sure that 372 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,240 I'm not activating the wrong muscles that I don't need to be 373 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,880 activating when I throw. That's about the biggest thing 374 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:48,280 has changed for me on that besides adapting to a lame knee. 375 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,800 So how I guess so you said mentioned something about making 376 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,960 sure that you don't you hit, you know, you don't stress out 377 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,920 certain parts of your shoulder and things like that. 378 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,080 How do you make sure that you don't do that? 379 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,040 How do you make sure that you're OK, especially if you because 380 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,800 yeah, guys over 40 or like me hitting 50s. 381 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,320 Thankfully, I haven't had to do any kind of shoulder surgery. 382 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,920 Now I've had to have some physical therapy because for a 383 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,760 while. I can't remember what I was, I 384 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,800 was when I was, when I was lifting a lot and I did 385 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,280 something and I, I could barely lift up my backpack that had 386 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,120 just a laptop in it because my shoulder hurts so bad. 387 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:27,240 So I had some physical therapy done and every time I would tell 388 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,840 my buddies my shoulder, like, dude, you're it's coming. 389 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,480 You're going to have to have shoulder surgery. 390 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,120 And then I start hearing the thing about knee surgery. 391 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:36,560 And as soon as you, you know, they, they say wait as long as 392 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,760 you can because then it, what is it? 393 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,600 After 10 years, 15 years, you have to do it again or something 394 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,320 like that. So tell me about that. 395 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,040 So how what am I concentrating to make sure that I'm making 396 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,800 sure that my shoulder doesn't get worked too much to where I'm 397 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,160 going to progress needing shoulder surgery? 398 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,360 So a lot of the throwing, a lot of people, you know, when you 399 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:00,760 first start, you're pulling a lot with that shoulder. 400 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,640 You think you're throwing like a Frisbee where you're throwing 401 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,480 with your shoulder here where it's more of a rotational 402 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,480 movement and you're getting the disc here and letting your, your 403 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,840 lower body, upper body work together. 404 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,440 Where like when I was hurting myself, I was trying to let my 405 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,360 shoulder do all the work and I was trying to muscle it with my, 406 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,520 my tricep and shoulder. And so if you'll, you'll get to 407 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,920 where you're, you're using the whole body and keeping that, 408 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,840 keeping it tight into you and letting momentum release the 409 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,400 disk and not you, that makes a big difference. 410 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,720 That's what it was for me as I was, I had poor technique and we 411 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,280 had, like I said, we had never even seen a basket. 412 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,200 And we were out there just trying to throw and you're like, 413 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,680 OK, it's got to be like a Frisbee. 414 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:49,400 And we're just muscle in it. And I was working those shoulder 415 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,480 muscles, just those delts incorrectly where you know, you 416 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,080 don't use them as much as you think. 417 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,560 It's just more of holding that there and then it's more of the 418 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,440 momentum here releasing it. Gotcha. 419 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:04,120 What about footwork? Anything changed as you progress 420 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:07,280 in age with footwork? Yeah, I, I don't have a very big 421 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,720 approach anymore. I I have a shorter approach. 422 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,240 I don't have a lot of the guys, you'll see they'll need an 423 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,640 entire pad and I don't, I don't use the entire pad. 424 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,600 I just need a shorter approach. I can get through my next step 425 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:26,400 for my basically my timing and I, I've worked on trying to get 426 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:32,160 that perfected, that little area where I can hone it in and get 427 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,000 as much distance as I can from having that timing correctly and 428 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,800 like. All right, so let's talk about 429 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,640 that belt you got behind you that big. 430 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,600 It makes me think of the WWE or WWF, whatever they are nowadays. 431 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,720 Yeah, so it's a replica belt. It's it's the real deal. 432 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:55,680 So, oh, about 6-7 years ago, I told my wife, I said, hey, I 433 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,960 need a, I got to come up with a trophy for the guys and I to 434 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,440 have we, we always have these little competitions and she's a 435 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,640 garage seller. And within a week she come home 436 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,400 with this thing and she's like, look what I got. 437 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,840 She's like 5 bucks. She goes, this lady said I could 438 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,400 get it for 5 bucks to get out of here. 439 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,960 She's tired of it being at her house. 440 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,600 I think she's sell it for cheaper now, but she brought it 441 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,080 home and this thing is that the real deal? 442 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,440 It's it's, it's pretty awesome. So there we, we, me and my 443 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,720 buddies, when we get time together, we, we play for it and 444 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,240 then it stays at the winner's house. 445 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,000 So it's, it's been a, it's been a fun time. 446 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,920 You, you play around here at different tournaments, you'll 447 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,640 have people come up and ask who's got the belt now, because 448 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:44,240 if you win it, you wear at the tournament afterwards. 449 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,120 So it's, it's it's, yeah, we're we're childish. 450 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:50,840 You know how it is. That's all right. 451 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,680 Anything to kind of put something online. 452 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,760 That's something to me and Eric always tell people sometimes, 453 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,040 you know, go out and be casual, just have a good time, but 454 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,120 sometimes put something on the line just to make you try a 455 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,680 little bit harder. Oh, that belt's serious. 456 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,200 I bet it is. Excuse me, man, Pardon. 457 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,240 Let's walk through a few. I know I do this all the time 458 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,600 and I'm sure my listeners probably get tired of it, but I 459 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,600 bounce around because I think of new questions. 460 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,680 Let's go back to disks. OK, Walk me through a a couple 461 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:26,920 of your go to drivers. OK, my my go to drivers, 462 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,360 probably my grace. I really like my grace that it 463 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:33,920 it's I've got a beat in one and then I've got a new one and I 464 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,240 know I'm going to get a reliable flight out of it and follow that 465 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,400 up. I like my musket. 466 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,960 It's a it's a great disc for me. I know it's going to do give me 467 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,200 a a good flight with a little bit of a S pattern, but probably 468 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,640 my favorites. My brave. 469 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,520 I've got a couple Braves that it's just a 7 speed, but man, 470 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,680 that thing, it can get some distance and it just goes 471 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,360 straight as an arrow for me. Those are those are my top top 472 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:02,920 three discs. Are you grabbing, are you 473 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,720 grabbing anything different on like super windy days or do you 474 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,000 even have super windy days up there? 475 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,040 Oh yeah, we have windy days down here. 476 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,360 We're Kansas, so. Yeah. 477 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,400 Yeah, we get those here. If I'm throwing Windy, I'm I'm 478 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,680 grabbing probably my rive. I know it's going to it's going 479 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,200 to fight it. I also have a fortress, A10 480 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:28,480 speed fortress and and I have my glory, my 7 speed glory. 481 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,160 It's going to fight win. Well, if I'm forehanding, I like 482 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,840 my defender. I like my throw up for for 483 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,000 handing with my defender. Nice. 484 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,240 All right, let's let's jump to the content creation part 485 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,440 because that's just I love talking content creation and and 486 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,760 a lot of people out there are wanting to do something like 487 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,360 that, something similar. So tell me, what is kind of your 488 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:56,600 process when you're like, how do you plan out your ideas and how 489 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,560 do they turn into eventually being published on YouTube? 490 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,960 Well, that's a good question. It's it's been such a whirlwind. 491 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,720 I, I, I kind of just made an outline of things that I thought 492 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,760 we should, you know, would be good to talk about and like the 493 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,840 five habits is kind of like, OK, once there's some habits and I 494 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,800 kind of came up with the five that for me seemed to be the 495 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,680 best. And I thought, well, maybe 496 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,080 that'll work for others. So once I got that, then I kind 497 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,040 of went from the habits and I broke each one individually 498 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,600 down. And, you know, at being a coach, 499 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,440 it wasn't too hard for me to kind of script out things 500 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,560 because I coached football for a long time and I, I'd go out and 501 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,280 script every, every practice. So when it comes to this, I 502 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,240 would, I was just kind of handled it the same way. 503 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,680 Like here's here's what I want to talk about. 504 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:50,680 Here's kind of how I want to talk about it. 505 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,480 I need to film it. That was a tricky 1 is trying to 506 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,520 film and and and get you know, you asked me a month ago what a 507 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,400 hook was. I would have been able to tell 508 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,920 you and you know how important Ctr. is, You know, I'd had an 509 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,200 idea. My my son was the one he come 510 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,600 in. He's I'm like, all right, check 511 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,520 my video out and he would look at it because now we need to do 512 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,880 this. That's not going to help with. 513 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,760 And here's my he heals nothing back. 514 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,800 So, but that's how I kind of did it. 515 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:24,440 I just kind of lay out my idea and then and, and start, OK, I'm 516 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,040 going to do warmups. Here's how I do my warmups and 517 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,720 kind of, I don't know if I'd word for word because you know 518 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,680 how it is when you get up. I, I kind of had this script of 519 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,320 what we're going to talk about and it's kind of it's out the 520 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,920 door. So, but you know, you kind of 521 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,800 get an idea how long you want to talk about it and a ballpark and 522 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,520 try to stick around that. And, and again, that doesn't 523 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,720 always fall into place at all, but that's, that's kind of, I 524 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,040 think that's kind of what you're asking. 525 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,640 I'm I'm hoping. Yeah. 526 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,960 So what are the plans? What? 527 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,600 What do you where do you hope to see this go? 528 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,720 You know, my long plan is, you know, I, I'm going to be 529 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,600 retiring in a few years and it'd be fun to have this as a hobby 530 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,800 still going and being able to continue on with it. 531 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,080 I'd like to, to, to continue in helping people improve. 532 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,360 You know, it's going to be, I'll be a master's for, for the rest 533 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:24,160 of my life now. So I've got. 534 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,040 Sometimes I can look at the different divisions and adjust. 535 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,120 Nice. I like it. 536 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,440 I like it. I don't even look. 537 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,360 Do you do anything on Instagram or Facebook or just YouTube? 538 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,800 I have an Instagram, TikTok and a Facebook. 539 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,280 OK, that's awesome. All right. 540 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,080 And I'll obviously put links to all of that in the show notes 541 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,760 when this gets published. So now something that I have 542 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,280 brought that on my last episode, someone reminded me that I 543 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,280 forgot I've been forgetting to do this is and when I interview 544 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,480 people, I thought it'd be kind of interesting to ask. 545 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,760 Have you have an opportunity to ask a question? 546 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,160 You can either, you know, ask me a question and we can kind of 547 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,040 change it up and say or ask the audience a question. 548 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,920 So I don't know, is there a question that you have for me or 549 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,720 a question you have to ask the audience? 550 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,040 You know, well, you got me. I watched one of your videos 551 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,680 today where you asked you did that, and I was like, I'm going 552 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,160 to have a question ready. And it's gone. 553 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,400 It's gone. What disks do you like to throw? 554 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,720 What are your top three drivers? Oh yeah. 555 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,600 So for the longest time before I came back to Dynamic, well 556 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,800 before when I was Dynamic disks, about four years ago, I was 557 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,080 throwing the Renegade a lot. That became something. 558 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,600 And then now that was about a speed 11 and then the trespass 559 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,920 on windy conditions, that was kind of my go to. 560 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,040 But now coming back to Dynamic Discs and, and of course, I was 561 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,080 just clash disc for a little bit helping them out. 562 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,480 But for about a year and a half I didn't play hard to any, any 563 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,320 disc golf because I was working at Shields. 564 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,160 So I really lost a lot of my form and technique. 565 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,200 Not that it was anything big, but you know what I'm saying, 566 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,880 After a while, you don't do it for a while, you kind of lose 567 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,640 it. So I had to step back. 568 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,480 And so right now the treason is throwing really, really good for 569 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,720 me. In fact, I'm doing a, a YouTube 570 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,880 series on my personal channel where I kind of kind of a reset 571 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,440 for the year. I want to get to where I'm I'm 572 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,640 throwing usable. I'm calling it better distance 573 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,600 or usable distance because I'm not looking to break any records 574 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,880 or go from Max. You know, I don't want to I'm 575 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,680 not looking to brag about my Max distance, but I want to get to 576 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,840 the point where I I just noticed when I would go out and play 577 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,560 casual and then started doing videos, I was getting a lot of 578 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,720 bogeys and a lot of double bogeys and that was getting 579 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,440 frustrated. So I want to get to the point 580 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,800 where I'm doing pars or birdies right, because I always hate it 581 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,200 when people say, you know, when you're out there doing poor it 582 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,400 poorly. It seems like someone says, Oh 583 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,440 well, most fun to win. Well, I'm not having fun getting 584 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,280 a bunch of bogeys and double bogeys right. 585 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,520 When I was playing pickleball a lot, I would play and want to 586 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,160 win. So, so in the video series, I'm 587 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,520 using the treason to I set a base where, OK, I threw five 588 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,240 times the treason and I'm going to measure the furthest throw 589 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,400 and I'm going to work on improving my distance throughout 590 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,760 the the YouTube series. So that was a long way of saying 591 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,320 yes, the treason is kind of my go to distance driver. 592 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,160 But I have noticed the heist has a little bit of a turn for me 593 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,120 and I really like that one. Now that one is if there's some 594 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,240 wind going on, I can trust the heist, whereas the treason might 595 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,920 flip a little bit too much for me in some windy conditions. 596 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,120 So I like the heist. And then the other one is if I 597 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,560 need some, some straight distance or if I need it to 598 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,640 finesse a little bit, I do grab the motive. 599 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,280 I don't get it. I haven't thrown it and tested 600 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,760 it to see side by side if the treason or the motive is better, 601 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,280 but I have noticed times that I can get the motive at a good 602 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,280 workable distance if I've got to keep it in a tight fairway. 603 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,440 So that's what I do. And then I know we said just a 604 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,080 handful, but #4 which is going to go straight. 605 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,560 It's in my bag. But it was the mystery disc, and 606 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,960 it's a disc that's being released this year that I can't 607 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,200 talk. I can't tell you the name quite 608 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,120 yet, but they sent us early prototypes and I am loving that 609 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,320 thing. And it's a lightweight, just 610 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,760 like the Motive. It's a lightweight driver that 611 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,240 just goes so straight for me, just nice and straight. 612 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,280 So I'm working that in my bag. So when that becomes a regular 613 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,400 release, that'll be one in my bag for sure. 614 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,360 That's huge. Lightweight disk are so far hard 615 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,280 to find. You know you you you. 616 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,040 I tell people I'm like, you can disc down by other drop in speed 617 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,280 or get a lighter weight disk and it it's sometimes that's just a 618 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,480 that's a hard game to do, especially if your favorite disc 619 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,360 is like a a destroyer or something like that. 620 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,400 And you're like, where am I going to find that? 621 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,800 You know, they're they're out there, but they're unicorns. 622 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,240 Yeah. Well, then and then the this 623 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,760 mystery disc, I've noticed that I've thrown it in wind and now 624 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,000 not super wind, super windy, but when there's a little bit of 625 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,760 wind, when I'm a little bit nervous about the wind kind of 626 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,120 grabbing it that it still holds really good as a straight line. 627 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,240 So I really like them. You're talking about that, your 628 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,000 distance and stuff. It's like I always say, you 629 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,160 know, your distance fades, but you're smarter. 630 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,120 Golf has to improve and that's where you're talking about. 631 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,440 You know that this is not there. You just don't want those 632 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,960 bogeys. And that's the truth, man. 633 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,040 You you can have a round of pars and you feel good about it, but 634 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,200 you throw 1 bogey in there, you just can't quit talking about 635 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,720 that bogey. No. 636 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,720 And it's like you want to go back to that course and beat 637 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,680 that hole again. You want to figure figure that 638 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,400 hole out. So, so yeah, so be getting 639 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,560 better distance is going to be part of kind of this whole 640 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,800 journey. And then of course, as I work on 641 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,360 the distance, I was obviously working on getting more accurate 642 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,560 with my upshots and and then work on my pudding. 643 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,560 But I mean, everybody knows that that everybody will love to have 644 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040 good distance. Distance is the answer for 645 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,400 everything. You know, accuracy is, is also 646 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,320 part of the part of the game. And then of course, it depends 647 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,720 on the course, right? Some courses it's it's not that 648 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,120 helpful if you have a lot of distance, you got to, you got to 649 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,520 learn how to get it on the fairways. 650 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,880 But I think the first step into improving and having more fun 651 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,719 out on the course is getting better. 652 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,400 Workable distance for sure. 100% you get that. 653 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,159 That wooded golf, though, it's a whole new ball game there. 654 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,920 It's. It's it's, it's a different 655 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,440 animal. Yeah, I have to try some work. 656 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,239 Yeah, but what or I was just saying I'm going to figure out 657 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,600 how do I can find because I don't know. 658 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,600 I can think of a few courses in the Oklahoma area that have wood 659 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,199 courses, but not very wooded, not like some of the other 660 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:44,400 courses outside of Oklahoma. Come down here to Baxter. 661 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,239 We got a we got us a wooded course here. 662 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,440 And then you go down the road, we can hit McClellan. 663 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,800 We can get some wooded courses pretty quick. 664 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,080 Yeah, we. Get better at distance before I 665 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,600 get mad at hitting every train. I I hear you. 666 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,280 We work on one thing at a time. Awesome. 667 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,400 All right. Any other questions? 668 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,640 That's it. I, you know, looking forward to 669 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,600 coming up there for GBO or GBO, yes. 670 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,720 GBO Glass won't open coming up in the end of June, a different 671 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:17,960 time than last year. So I'm excited. 672 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,600 In fact, we were talking about the whole marketing campaign 673 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,240 behind it when you're going to start seeing you more and more 674 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:26,520 post about GBO. So if you guys need to figure it 675 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,560 out, go to glass Glassbone open dot com and get more details 676 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,560 because there's some other events happening here in Emporia 677 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,960 that have nothing to do with disc golf, but they're going to 678 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,880 take up some of the air BBS, Airbnb and some of the hotels. 679 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,640 So you need to get booked early and fast before they get booked 680 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,760 up. So well, Charles, I appreciate 681 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,960 you being on the show. I appreciate and I loved 682 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,840 learning a little bit more about you and hopefully, well, I mean, 683 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,920 I don't want to say hopefully, but yes, let's still still stay 684 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,520 connected. Maybe have you come back in back 685 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,560 on the show after six or eight months or something like that? 686 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,920 See where you're at in your YouTube channel. 687 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,080 That be good that. 'D be great, I appreciate you 688 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,240 having me and looking forward to seeing your game improve and 689 00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:05,960 when I'm up there GBO, we'll have to get around in. 690 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,120 Yeah, absolutely. I'd love to play around with 691 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,080 you, Charles, when you come down. 692 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,360 Now, I might be a little busy, but I might be able to squeeze 693 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,160 in a quick round or two or something like that when you 694 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,520 come down. That'd be great. 695 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,920 We we always go up. My buddy, his mom lives in 696 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,480 parents live in Opie and they have a full basement so they 697 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,160 just you know, they, they do every, they do everything for 698 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,160 us. They love having company 699 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,720 breakfast in bed, no? Maybe I need to come stay there. 700 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:31,200 That'd be nice. I love it but. 701 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,600 We always have a good time there, so we get there pretty 702 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,600 early in the week and get and hang out basically before the 703 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,520 the rounds get started and that's awesome so. 704 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,240 All right, man. Well, I appreciate it again. 705 00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:42,800 Take care. Yep, take care. 706 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,320 Appreciate you.