1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,880 Welcome to another episode of the Disc golf pants Man. 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,000 I am Bobby, Cool Daddy, Slick Breeze and this is another Dig 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,360 Gam interview. This time I reached out to 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,040 Broderick. He was one of the guys that as I 5 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:12,160 got back in the disc golf social media, I discovered on YouTube 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,560 and I watched some of his videos and I really, really enjoyed his 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,920 chill vibe. That kind of that whole vibe of 8 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,440 just let's just meet up with some friends, let's go play some 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,680 disc golf and have a good time. Now we'll let you know that 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,960 about toward the end, something happened on his side with the 11 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,160 audio. So you might hear a bit of a 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,560 difference in the audio quality, but it should still be good to 13 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,120 go. All right, let's learn a little 14 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:41,920 bit more about Broderick. So just real quick, just to kind 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,800 of start off the whole give me the elevate elevator pitch of 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,800 like when you hit record and you've got a disc golf ID or 17 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,920 disc golf video and you hit record, what is your ultimate 18 00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:58,160 goal? So I'll start off by saying 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,800 that's something I think I'm three over. 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,120 I think I'm over three years in and I still feel like I don't 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,560 totally know. But I'd have to say if it's 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,840 anything is when you click on my video, I just want it to feel 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,680 like you're playing disc golf with your friends. 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,560 That's kind of been my goal. Like from day one when I first 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,640 started my channel, I started it with one of my best friends. 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,040 I'm actually in his house right now doing this. 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,520 But like we kind of started the channel together in a way. 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:35,640 And from day one, like, like I took it serious, but I always 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,480 wanted the attitude, attitude to just be, hey, we're hanging out 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,760 playing disc golf and whatever. I'm saying that to the camera is 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,080 pretty much the same conversations I'd be having just 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,680 with my friends while out on the disc golf course. 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:56,520 But now I'm recording it, you know, and, and I think obviously 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,200 like I'll go into different avenues everyone. 35 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,640 So, you know, I'll do this for a couple months, I'll do this, do 36 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,160 this. But I think like the heart and 37 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,199 soul and like what my core audience watches me for is 38 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:10,840 literally just to like hang out and play disc golf. 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,440 And I'm lucky that I live in a van and I travel you around and 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,720 I can kind of be, I kind of try and be wherever it's 75° and 41 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,960 sunny. So maybe when, when people 42 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,160 aren't playing disc golf, I still AM and they get to watch 43 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,000 me and be like, oh, I'm sitting inside all all week. 44 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,200 I can't play, but I still get to watch you play. 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,600 So I guess like I just want to hang out with you and play this 46 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,880 golf that I think that's kind of like my elevator pitch, even 47 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,560 though that might not like to some people, I think they'll 48 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,960 they're like yes, but then some people are like that is the 49 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,760 worst business decision you've ever made, but alright, cool, 50 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,880 like. I love that you say you travel 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:56,280 to places that are 75° because I was out or before this, I was 52 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,400 out doing some filming and it's, I'm in Oklahoma and it started 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,040 heating up and I was like, God, This is why I, I wish I lived in 54 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,040 a place that was 70s all year round because it was climbing 55 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,520 toward 80s very fast. And that'd get pretty hot when 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,120 you're out in the middle of a field with the sun beating down 57 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,520 on you. So but so So what got is kind of 58 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,520 your vibe for me, the ones that I've watched are kind of like 59 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,480 even your music is kind of like, I don't know if I want to call 60 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,520 it low 5, but just kind of chill type music. 61 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,480 Kind of a like you said, just hanging out was are there some 62 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,600 creators that you follow that kind of inspired that or you 63 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,600 just like, I'm just going to be me and this is what I'm going 64 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,720 to. I'm just going to grab a camera 65 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:42,160 and film it. I so I feel like, I think with 66 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,640 my videos, I've always wanted them to just be like, I want to 67 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,520 make videos that I would watch. I think like every, I think 68 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,280 every person who creates probably has some creators I'd 69 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,480 say like off the top of my head, like Casey Neistat and Beau 70 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,240 Miles. I don't know if you know, like 71 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,760 you probably know who Casey Neistat is. 72 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,680 Beau Miles maybe is like a little more niche, but I don't 73 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,000 know. There's a few creators, but I'm 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:10,080 also the type who like I like consuming, but I also like to 75 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,160 not consume things because I almost don't want to be inspired 76 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,680 in a way. But I think like the music and 77 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:22,360 the vibe of it for me really is just like a very big part of 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:27,360 like my personality where like a lot of people might try and make 79 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,240 the most fast-paced like here's my video Ba ba ba bang like 80 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:36,640 TikTok style like but for me, I've always been very like 81 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,200 mellow and like I always think it. 82 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,800 I always thought it was funny growing up like I would, I 83 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,480 played football and like I was a pretty good football player, but 84 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,280 I was like the player on the bus listening to like acoustic John 85 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:53,760 Mayer, you know, while everyone else is listening to like rap 86 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,080 music or whatever. Like my hype was like acoustic 87 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,120 John Mayer sets on YouTube. And so I think that it like 88 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:08,200 almost translates to like that kind of chill vibe of really, I 89 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,800 don't know, I feel like it's a way to kind of let the videos 90 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,040 breathe too in a in a time period where content is very, 91 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:19,120 very fast-paced in your face. I kind of want to try and keep 92 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,840 it almost like the complete opposite, I guess, but still in 93 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:26,080 a way that you're like enjoying the whole product. 94 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,480 Like I don't want it to be like long and drawn out and boring, 95 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:33,320 but I want it to be like mellow and like comforting almost, I 96 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,240 guess, you know? But then again, like I have some 97 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,120 videos that are the most like, like I'm one of the creators 98 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,920 who's a little more like, I don't know, like rated R on some 99 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,120 videos where like me and my friends will be, there are no 100 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,760 rules. Like if I get demonetized on 101 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:55,960 that video, I take the L and like we let it RIP and that's 102 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,160 just like how it is. So it's like you. 103 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,560 Kind of get a little like a little bit of both from me I 104 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,560 guess. I do. 105 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,680 I I saw one video where actually at the beginning it said 106 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,800 parental advisory. Yeah, so. 107 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:10,200 It's like, at least. Some warned people be warned. 108 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,720 That was probably the big Bass Open, which is a tournament that 109 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,960 we have up at my buddy's cabin every year. 110 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,040 I think we're on five years. We filmed it every year. 111 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,240 Production quality kind of gets a little better every year. 112 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,920 That being said, we're up north in Minnesota and we are drinking 113 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:31,200 alcohol and whatever happens on that thing happens. 114 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,520 So like, but it's I think there's a there is a big 115 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,880 audience on disc golf YouTube build that I think like once a 116 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,800 year I post that video and they're like, man, this just 117 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,320 reminds me of like my local league growing up like it. 118 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,960 It really does have that grassroots feeling to it. 119 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,120 And I've been playing disc golf for I think 17 years now. 120 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,720 So I started in fifth grade. So I really try and like, 121 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,040 although I take it very serious and I do play competitively and 122 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,440 like, I want this sport to like blow up and be huge. 123 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,200 I still recognize like when I started playing, it's like the 124 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,040 vibes of disc golf and your local league were like so much 125 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,280 different. And I feel like that really 126 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,200 shaped like my outlook on the game. 127 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,960 And so I try and like represent that as well 'cause I think I'm 128 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,160 one of the like one of the few newer creators kind of how you 129 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,200 were saying like you, you stepped out of it. 130 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,160 You're part of kind of that old school crew. 131 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,120 A lot of the newer creators haven't actually been playing 132 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,040 that long. Like Bonanza's only been playing 133 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,560 for three to four years, like a lot of the guys, whereas I've 134 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,040 been playing my whole life. So I think I kind of can 135 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,480 represent like a different perspective and I try and show 136 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,560 that in some videos. Yeah, there was a Speaking of 137 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,760 drinking while playing. There was an event out here in 138 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,040 Pawhuska, Oklahoma called the Lodge Team Event. 139 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,440 And the Lodge has two different courses, beautiful courses. 140 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,280 That's kind of where I got my start in disc golf. 141 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,640 But they had a the Lodge Team event and every team had a 142 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,200 bottle of Crown Royal and the point was to be done with it. 143 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,720 By the time the end of the round and my whole 14 or whatever you 144 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,640 are, you were pretty lit and there was some crazy, there's 145 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,560 some crazy people. It was a weekend event and some 146 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,080 people would camp out and just party down on that. 147 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,000 It was a Saturday, Sunday and that Saturday night people would 148 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,240 party. And there's some stories of 149 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,440 people driving around A4 Wheelers drunk. 150 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,160 Just yeah, it was. It's stories you probably don't 151 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,280 want people to know about. It was. 152 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,640 It was, it was fun. Well, hey, hey, if you're 153 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,560 watching this and you, you ever played that event Bobbye talking 154 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,000 about, go watch the big bass open. 155 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:39,919 You'll love it. So do you think so you've been 156 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,600 OK? So you've been playing since 157 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,360 first, you said 17 years? 17 years. 158 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,760 I think I kind of lose the math because since 5th grade, though 159 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,720 I'm 28, somebody maybe can I think 17 years. 160 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,560 So do you think when you decided to pick up a camera and start 161 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:58,160 videoing yourself doing disc golf, do you think it has 162 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,760 changed the way you play? Do you or or or not? 163 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,400 Has it how? How has it changed it? 164 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:11,600 So like so I'm, I'm I. Feel like I have like a. 165 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,480 I'm a pretty well-rounded game. I have a forehand, backhand, 166 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,920 power shots, touch shots. But at the heart and soul of it 167 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,400 I like throwing flippy mid, mid ranges and putters and finesse 4 168 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,800 hands that like big germ style. Like when big germ throws a mid 169 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,800 range forehand, in my mind I'm like, that is that is the 170 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,200 prettiest shot in the game. And so like two players that 171 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,240 I've really like molded my game after is Kayla Visca, his 172 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,960 backhand and then Jeremy Coling's sidearm, which in a way 173 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,480 I feel like are the same, but one's backhand and one's 174 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,080 sidearm, you know what I mean? Like very flip up, like touchy, 175 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,480 but very controlled. And so I try and bring those two 176 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,760 aspects. I guess what I'm getting at here 177 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,160 is when I film, I want my videos to be as pretty as possible. 178 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,640 I want them to look good. I want the shots to look good. 179 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:09,960 So say I'm filming a a course, whatever, and it's a wide open 180 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,120 hole. A lot of people might be like, 181 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,080 yeah, I'm going to throw, you know, 300 foot wide open hole. 182 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,960 They're like, I'm going to throw a firebird hyzer. 183 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,480 Just pin it done. I'm like, let me take my super 184 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,000 super beat up Buzz S S, throw it on hyzer out left and let it 185 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,320 drift over and Annie and and see if that I can make that work. 186 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,200 But then I'll be filming all week. 187 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,080 I'll go play a tournament where there's that 300 foot wide open 188 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,680 hole and I'm like, I should probably throw the firebird 189 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:43,960 spike hyzer, you know what I mean? 190 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,680 And so it's like I've always enjoyed like the hyzer flip 191 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,800 touchy backhand stuff, but I also have a pretty good 192 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,120 forehand. And so I guess I have this 193 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,120 constant battle in my head of like you're, you're a tournament 194 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,400 player also. So you have to keep those stock 195 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,760 high presented shots. But when I'm filming content, 196 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,720 you're never really going to see me throw the stock high 197 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,120 percentage shot. And I'm always trying to throw 198 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,040 the prettiest shot possible and it gets you in trouble sometimes 199 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,640 also. I feel like I've gotten better 200 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,440 at those shots because I've learned to like do them on 201 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,840 command while on camera in a video that is going to be posted 202 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,920 for thousands of people to see. So I almost feel like in a way 203 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,240 it has made me better, but it's like completely changed. 204 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,520 Like my shot selection. And also something I noticed 205 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,360 that is has got to be horrible is throwing and then immediately 206 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,520 trying to move out of the way of the camera. 207 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,360 And I find myself literally like in tournament throwing shots in 208 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,840 like my form has almost changed to like the end of my form is 209 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,160 now right? Like moving off of the T pad, 210 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,000 like instead of instead of like finishing my follow through. 211 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,400 And I'm like, that can't be good for like, what are you doing? 212 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,480 No one's filming like stay on the T pad and follow through. 213 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,160 What is he doing? Why is he? 214 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,120 We don't care to see his throat. That's that's what, Yeah. 215 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,600 So does that cause. OK, so you trying to. 216 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,360 So what I hear you saying is that when you're in a 217 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,160 tournament, you're playing your shots for the most strategy. 218 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,160 In other words, getting the disc where you want it to land. 219 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,240 But when you're filming it, you want it to look the most 220 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,440 cinematic because, you know, we all love watching a disc fly, 221 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,840 especially when you see a disc flip, you know, flip over and 222 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,800 come back. I mean it's such a sweet thing 223 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,760 to see that S curve. So how do you battle or do you 224 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,640 battle at all between showing your real shots in your content 225 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,360 or the more cinematic shots? Do you find yourself re throwing 226 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,640 to make sure the shot looks good? 227 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,680 Are you pretty good about showing the real throws? 228 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:53,480 I mean, it all depends on like what the like top, like what the 229 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:58,240 actual video is. Like if I'm playing like, I 230 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,480 guess it's like if I'm playing a practice round for a tournament, 231 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,000 like I'll be like, hey guys, I got a tournament tomorrow. 232 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,240 I'm going to play practice round. 233 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,240 I'm going to throw 2 off every tee. 234 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,160 And it's like, yeah, I'm showing the actual shots. 235 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:13,000 But I do some videos that are like ASMR videos where it's, you 236 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,240 know, 15 minutes of not a single word. 237 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,320 And those are ones where it's like, OK, I would I would say 238 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:26,600 I'm lucky to be like my strong suit is throwing when I'm 239 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,960 playing good. I'm a pretty good thrower. 240 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,360 So like I can usually do what I'm trying to do. 241 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:38,080 But so if I'm filming that ASMR video and I drill first 242 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,040 available, the point of that video isn't me playing an 18 243 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,520 hole round for score and trying to like shred. 244 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,040 It's to throw the prettiest looking frame and shot. 245 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,080 So like that might be 1 where I'm like, all right, I'll go re 246 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,400 throw that one, you know, But like those videos aren't hey, 247 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,040 guys, I'm taking us taking score right now. 248 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:04,560 Like they're fully like casual, I guess, you know, so I kind of 249 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:07,400 forget what you're like. Original question was but. 250 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,040 Do do do you find yourself, you know, throwing it over and over, 251 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,000 throwing a shot maybe over and over again to make sure you get 252 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,320 that cinematic shot? Oh, I guess not really no. 253 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:23,880 Like I, I would say only in those like in the, in the ASMR 254 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,360 videos where like the whole point is that like it all looks 255 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,800 pretty, but like I'm so lucky that like I swear I, I might be 256 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,520 one of the people who like when you turn the camera on, I think 257 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:41,040 I throw better almost like it, it, it, it something about it is 258 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,320 like I'll throw these shots where I'm like, how do you do 259 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,280 that? And then they happen to be on 260 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,720 camera. So I feel like I get away with 261 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:54,840 like a lot of good shots that I was trying to throw and I'm 262 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,960 like, no, I just laced it sick like this, you know, Makes my 263 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,880 job easy, I guess. Nice. 264 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,840 I, I've learned to, I used to like warm up, do some roll up 265 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,240 shots before I hit record. Now I've learned to hit record 266 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,360 because sometimes a warm up shot just like, OK, that's exactly 267 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,200 what I wanted on camera. So I've learned like even this 268 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,520 morning I did that. I recorded every throw just in 269 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,960 case I had that that nice throw I was looking for. 270 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,160 So how what is kind of your process as far as like coming up 271 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,280 with ideas or when you get an idea, What's kind of the walk me 272 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,520 through the process between idea or coming up with ideas to 273 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,120 actually getting out on the on the course and filming? 274 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,000 So I feel like that's changed a little bit over the last year 275 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,560 simply because I don't know, I guess my attitude towards disc 276 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,800 golf content has definitely changed over the last year. 277 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,120 When I first started doing this maybe three years ago, I felt 278 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,280 like I had to unlimited ideas. Like I was like, oh, there's 279 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,160 just like everything. Like every day I would think of 280 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,960 like 3 things. I'm like I could film 281 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,760 constantly. And you know, I definitely went 282 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,160 through phases where I was posting 6 videos a week for 283 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,800 months on end. And so like you kind of are in a 284 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,760 way, like every idea you have, you're just making it, posting 285 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,480 it. And I kind of got to a point 286 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:16,000 where I got a little like burnt out of the actual ideas 287 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,240 themself. I think because I've been in the 288 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,320 sport so long, things started to not really interest me. 289 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,760 You know, a lot of like, you know, a new disc would come out 290 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,000 and it and it's very like new Simon line. 291 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,400 This comes out very low hanging fruit to go make a review on 292 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,520 that. It's going to do good 293 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,280 guaranteed. I'm kind of at a point right now 294 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,960 where I probably won't make that review because it just doesn't 295 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:47,880 like interest me and I'm in a weird spot where I'm like IA lot 296 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,080 of times right now I just kind of go to the course and like see 297 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,480 what happens. I, I think I'm maybe one of the, 298 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,320 I'm one of the lucky creators that has built like my core 299 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,599 audience. I think more based on like, just 300 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,560 like, like I said at the beginning, kind of just like 301 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,839 we're hanging out. You're just kind of watching 302 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:11,800 this video to watch it. And so like, they almost don't 303 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,599 need a topic, you know? So, yeah, like, I feel like I 304 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:20,640 wish I had like a better answer for you right now, but I'm kind 305 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:26,720 of on this wave of almost just going filming and knowing, like 306 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,480 my core audience is going to enjoy this. 307 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,680 Like because we're just playing disc golf. 308 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,680 Like I have a video that I just filmed with my buddy last night. 309 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,280 The title of it right now is literally just two buds out 310 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,680 having fun times in the woods playing games. 311 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:45,920 And the reason that that is the title is because my buddy Ethan, 312 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,840 like says that at the end of the video. 313 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,920 And I think that kind of like speaks to like my idea making 314 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,280 right now is like I have two sides of like core audience 315 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:02,000 videos and then other videos of things that maybe really like 316 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,640 catch my interest. Like I have a couple longer form 317 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,880 videos that are going on kind of like lot like much longer 318 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,040 processes of filming and editing. 319 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,000 And I guess those are the ones that I'm putting a lot more 320 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,960 thought process into. And those ones are a lot of 321 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,320 time. And this is something new for 322 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,280 me, I guess, which I guess may be good to like talk about is 323 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,480 I've never like not these aren't even fully scripted, but the 324 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,000 idea is scripted out like in my notes, like I have the topic. 325 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,520 And then I'll have like, OK, this is what I want the intro to 326 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,200 kind of be. This is what I want like act one 327 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,040 to be. This is what I want Act 2 to be. 328 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,360 This is what I want the ending to be. 329 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,120 And I'm finally trying to make like, I almost call it like 330 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,480 actual YouTube content, you know, like I feel like anyone 331 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,040 who has consumed enough of like how to make YouTube video 332 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:00,040 content knows like there is a formula to like making a YouTube 333 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,440 video. And just in the last month or 334 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:09,840 two, I've finally taken the steps to like, like dial it back 335 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,680 and not feel so rushed all the time. 336 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,800 And like spend a couple weeks on a video and like really like get 337 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:20,280 into the process of like the storyline and like like taking 338 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,320 multiple days to film, going to multiple courses to get the 339 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:28,120 shots you want, you know, and really making like a good 340 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:31,040 finished product. Rather than I feel like a lot of 341 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,880 disc golf content is just go to the course, 2 hours later, 342 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,520 you're done filming, go home, edit it, upload it, boom. 343 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,520 You like, your videos are a one day process a lot of times and 344 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,600 it's done. And I'm a lot more fulfilled on 345 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,160 like the creative side of these longer form videos. 346 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,480 And I'm trying to get away from the, like machine that is disc 347 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,000 golf YouTube, but feeling like we have to post 567 times a week 348 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,280 just to like, make it a thing. I guess. 349 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,960 So, yeah, I don't know. I, I, I'm so scatterbrained. 350 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,800 So like that might have answered your question but. 351 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,400 No, OK, it's, it's interesting because it is it is a journey 352 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,440 that that I've gone through. And I know a lot of people 353 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,920 where, I mean, I remember back in the day, I was excited and I 354 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,160 was like, idea after idea. We're publishing, you know, two 355 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,720 or three videos a week. And then you do kind of get kind 356 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,960 of a burnout because if there is a lot to it, you get excited and 357 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,800 it's like the ideas are just filling your head and they come 358 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,960 one right after the other. And then once you're done, it's 359 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,960 like then it's like, oh, yeah, this is where the real work 360 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,200 kicks. I mean, it's all work. 361 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,880 But like, it really is a lot of work to say, OK, what's the next 362 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,560 idea? Especially when you're trying to 363 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,640 chase views and stuff like that. And then I know another, the 364 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,880 thing I had was you mentioned some people like, you know, like 365 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,640 the, the Super fast edits and I've, you know, I've heard it 366 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,360 call it the Mr. beastification to video editing. 367 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:00,320 And I think that there's some, I think people are feeling a 368 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,240 little bit of a fatigue, like they're tired, You know, it's 369 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,200 like their brain is, it's exciting, it's nice and it and 370 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,800 it and it fulfills that novelty dopamine hit. 371 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,520 Then after a while you're like, I just want to chill and just 372 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,000 watch somebody play some disc golf. 373 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,400 And I think that's where yours kind of hit that it's like, I 374 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,040 don't want the constant barrage of edits. 375 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,560 I just want to watch someone having a good time doing 376 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,920 something and I love doing as well. 377 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,680 So I think that's that's great. And that's what I'm trying to 378 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,520 figure out with our YouTube channels, like where do we fit 379 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,440 in? We have such a large subscriber 380 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,640 base, but you know, I'm challenged with our view numbers 381 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,120 because I think we're having to reteach our subscribers what 382 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:41,080 we're all about. So anyway, that's kind of a 383 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:47,680 tangent for me. So as far as, like you said, you 384 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,240 kind of like the vibe, you like just kind of the hanging out. 385 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,520 But some people obviously don't probably like that type. 386 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,440 And I'm sure you probably get, I don't know how you are as far as 387 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,720 like reading comments and when people engage with you, how do 388 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,400 you deal with the comments that you get, maybe some unexpected 389 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,680 comments. You know, so like, I'm still 390 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,760 like I read every single comment. 391 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:16,040 I actually for, for probably the first two years, I replied to 392 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,960 every single comment I ever got on a YouTube video. 393 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,640 And for some people that might not be a ton in their first two 394 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:29,200 years, but I was, I had this crazy engagement percentage 395 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,360 where like I would get a video with 1000 views and it would 396 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:36,960 have 100 comments. So like I would like early on 397 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,800 the engagement numbers on my videos were like absurd and I 398 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,600 would reply to every single one of them. 399 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:51,920 I also think I'm in the like I get lucky to where I bet one out 400 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,520 of every 50 comments is negative on my videos. 401 00:22:54,760 --> 00:23:01,400 Like I almost get like almost no hate other than the way I dress. 402 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,840 That is the only thing that people like cannot handle is 403 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,520 like that my shorts are too short or I wear white socks that 404 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:17,080 are like just your your normal like mid like it's just like the 405 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:23,240 most stupid stuff that in my mind I'm like, OK, but like this 406 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,280 doesn't matter. So like in a in 10 minutes like 407 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,240 I forget about it sometimes, like. 408 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:34,000 I don't know the comments are. Something that like they get to 409 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,520 me, but I think I have a quick or was it a quick memory or 410 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,760 whatever? Like I forget about it fast. 411 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,080 And so I feel like, I don't know. 412 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:50,080 I feel like I'm very, very lucky to just like have almost really 413 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,160 gotten like just a very small percentage of hate. 414 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,880 And when I do, it's like, yeah, some stuff might bother me like 415 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,840 right away, but like in 1/2 an hour I literally forgot that it 416 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,720 even exists. So like you just kind of move on 417 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,000 from it. I also think what maybe one 418 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,240 thing that's helped, and I've kind of feel like I've talked 419 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,760 about this in a few videos over the last like 6 months. 420 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:19,640 And just like with some other people, is that content forever? 421 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,480 I think content overall is usually somebody giving their 422 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,200 opinion on something which everyone has an opinion that's 423 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,200 totally cool. But I think disc golf, YouTube 424 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,800 kind of got to a point where everyone needed felt the need to 425 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,960 have an opinion on everything that happened. 426 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,280 Like if this new disc comes out, if this event had something 427 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,680 crazy happen, if this, whatever it is, everyone needed an 428 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,080 opinion. And I was so sick of giving my 429 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,560 opinion because I felt like I was part of that. 430 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Like I'm like, we're all just sitting here given our kind of 431 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,360 useless opinion on all this stuff. 432 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,920 It's like, guys, we're just throwing Frisbees. 433 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,760 Like we're just literally playing disc golf. 434 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:06,360 And so I kind of dialed back the opinions and just made it much 435 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:10,040 less like, I'm not really giving opinions. 436 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,280 I'm just hanging out playing disc golf. 437 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,320 Like. And so there was less for people 438 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,320 to kind of combat with me, you know, like they're really, I 439 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:22,760 almost don't give people things to like disagree with because 440 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,200 the takes that I have nowadays, I feel like are just very like 441 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,280 more neutral, just kind of like, hey, this is what's going on, 442 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,600 you know, like, and I'm just, I don't know, I just don't give 443 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,960 them really anything to even work with because I just 444 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,200 realized it doesn't matter. It just was so, so like burnt 445 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,280 out for me. So yeah, I don't know. 446 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,080 I feel like every, I've, I've been on like a few podcasts and 447 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,640 they always, like most people ask me that like the comment, 448 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,160 like how do you deal with the comments? 449 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,040 And I've always kind of had the same answer of just like I got 450 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,920 lucky where it's just such a small percentage that like it's 451 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,400 my, my, my comments I feel like are so positive overall. 452 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,880 It's like a really good community. 453 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,280 So that's good. Yeah, yeah, all. 454 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,840 Right. Let's switch, let's switch gears 455 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,800 a little bit. Let's talk at camera gear. 456 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:13,400 What? What did you start out with and 457 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,680 what are you using now? So I started out with a Sony 458 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:24,520 A60300 with the Rode wireless go twos maybe. 459 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,840 I never remember that. I feel like they're like they 460 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,840 got like 10 names on them. So I actually had like AI call 461 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,680 it like a videography background before I started doing this 462 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:40,080 because, and I, I, I give it the finger quotes because basically 463 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:45,000 what happened is in 2020, I mean, a few, few friends were 464 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,080 like, I'm from Minnesota, that's where I grew up, whatever. 465 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:51,160 And we're like, let's move to Arizona. 466 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,880 I was like, let's, you know, try something, let's figure figure 467 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,200 it out. I don't know, I want to do 468 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,120 something. And then I was like, I've never 469 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:02,920 owned a camera. I've never even taken a like, 470 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,160 I've always, I've always kind of been the guy who was like taking 471 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,240 iPhone, you know, like making Instagram stuff, like way back 472 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,800 when it first started, whatever. But like I had never had a 473 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,480 camera or anything. And I was like, I'm going to 474 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,320 move to Arizona. I'm going to become a 475 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,520 videographer. I didn't even know what that 476 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,480 meant at that point. I moved there. 477 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,720 I somehow meet some buddies at the gym that I was going to who 478 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,640 like were full time biographers in like the Phoenix metro area. 479 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,640 One of them has like his like third string camera Sony A60300. 480 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,240 He's like I'll sell it to you for he literally sold it to me 481 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,560 for like 250 bucks. He kind of like hooked it up. 482 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,560 I was like sounds good. I'll buy it. 483 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:49,960 Get that. I do freelance videography for a 484 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,200 couple years and basically I was good enough at talking to people 485 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,760 to like sell them a service that almost didn't exist. 486 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,120 And I would just YouTube everything and figure it out and 487 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,680 never got a complaint. So I guess it kind of worked. 488 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,720 And I did that for a couple years and then I really got 489 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:10,120 burnt out of like the, the like making content for other people. 490 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,680 And so I moved to Nashville 'cause I think maybe this will 491 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,160 help. Maybe this will make me figure 492 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,840 it out. And so I don't have a job. 493 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,160 I was like living on savings. And then I'm like, OK, let me 494 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,720 not let me play disco. I was playing disc golf every 495 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,800 day because I didn't have a job. That's all I would do. 496 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,000 And then one day I was like, you know, I have all this camera 497 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,480 gear. It's pretty good camera gear. 498 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,640 Like, you know, I'm like, let's, I'll, I'll start filming this. 499 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:44,680 And so I started filming and I forget if it was my, I think it 500 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,000 was like my 7th, maybe my ninth ever video. 501 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,280 It was me and my buddy Ethan. We made like a review of the 502 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,640 outer production disc Craft Pulse, because it was a video, a 503 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,840 disc that we had growing up that we loved. 504 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,160 It had a little little thumb track thing. 505 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,040 And I had found two of them on Facebook Marketplace. 506 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,400 A dude was selling for $5. They were like in mint 507 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,400 condition, bought those. We make a review, the review or 508 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,240 I would like a reviewer just out playing with him, whatever. 509 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,320 But the video gets 5 or the video gets 1000 views in one 510 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,640 week. And that was my first time ever 511 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,880 getting 1000 views. And I was like, oh OK, this is 512 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,840 my job now. Cool. 513 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,520 Like that's kind of what I got. It's back to your original 514 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,760 impression. I had the A 6300 and at the time 515 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,520 I had funny enough I bought the A 6300 for like 250 bucks but I 516 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:42,160 actually kind of splurged on Sony 18 to one O 5 like power 517 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,840 zoom lens, like a APSC lens, pretty solid disc golf lens. 518 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,440 And so that definitely made like the quality a lot better and 519 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:55,320 then had the wireless mics and use that for I bet I filmed 250 520 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,560 videos on it maybe. And then honestly I probably 521 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,360 never would have upgraded unless I was I was in Arizona a couple 522 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:09,760 winters ago and it kept overheating even in like 80° and 523 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,880 sunny but like it kept overheating. 524 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,400 So I was like OK I need to figure this out. 525 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:21,840 I had another buddy who had bought a a 6400 big upgrade like 526 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,040 barely but it was newer and the battery life was better so I 527 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,280 ended up buying that from him. So basically same they're almost 528 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,680 the same exact camera. The one just like had better 529 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,000 battery life really is all it was. 530 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,440 I started using that film probably another 200 videos on 531 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,240 that and then actually like literally a week and a half ago. 532 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,560 I I only buy This is how you know know I grew up like with 533 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,880 not much money and buying stuff at thrift stores. 534 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,160 I've never bought any new camera gear really everything I just 535 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,440 buy from friends that don't want it anymore. 536 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,120 So I buy another Sony, Sony ZV E10. 537 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,720 Basically it's like kind of the same level camera, but it has a 538 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,520 flip out screen, which the cameras I had been using before 539 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,760 did not have. And so the flip out screen has 540 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,480 been like a game changer just being able to actually like see 541 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:20,280 myself in front of the camera. And and then right now I'm using 542 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,920 the Sony 18 to 135, just the kit lens actually that comes with 543 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,360 the with the a 6400. But honestly, for disc golf for 544 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,760 like a mid level, like, you know, you could probably get the 545 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:38,040 set up for maybe 1500 thirteen, $100 like it's a pretty good 546 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,040 lens. And then so yeah, that's what 547 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:48,000 I'm using right now, the Sony, Sony ZV E10 and then 18 to 135 548 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,760 usually. Have an ND. 549 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,160 Filter on there. If it's overcast I actually use 550 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,200 a a promise filter. Make it look nice and kind of 551 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,920 cinematic I guess. And then yeah. 552 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,960 So like nothing super fancy. I don't know if I'll, I think 553 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,400 I'd have to be like making so much more money to buy like a 554 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,880 full frame setup, like like a six $7000 setup. 555 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,640 I just, I just seems crazy to me right now. 556 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,080 So I'll probably just keep working with what I got. 557 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,200 But what do you guys use or what do you use? 558 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:30,040 Well, I use a a Osmo pocket 3, the DGI Osmo Pocket three. 559 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,520 I use that. Yeah, I'm using it right now 560 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,000 because you can use it as a webcam. 561 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,120 I like because it has this it the the top of it spins around. 562 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,720 So I can actually my viewfinder, I can watch as I'm filming, 563 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,240 which is which I really like. And then for pictures, I use the 564 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,120 the Sony. What is it? 565 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,120 A 7/3 And I've used that for video as well. 566 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,200 I just, I'm, I'm with you. I hate not being able to if I'm 567 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,960 filming myself, I got to see myself. 568 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,440 I got to see what's in France and that that view. 569 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,160 Three just has the one that flips up, but it's like, not 570 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,760 really. Like you can't actually. 571 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,560 Like, I don't understand how that design ever, like made it 572 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,480 through. Like it's pointless. 573 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,600 Almost like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, why don't you read the 574 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,440 room, Sony with your blockers? They want to. 575 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,520 Be themselves so like. And then for my running gun, I 576 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,280 have a Canon Vixia. I can't remember the the number 577 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,280 of it, but it's just the, the small compact little running. 578 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,560 Yeah, it's not, it's not a smaller one. 579 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,800 It's kind of in between like a professional and a just a 580 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,720 casual, casual 1. And I, I find that that one's 581 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,440 look getting a little outdated because even this little Osmo 582 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,600 has a bigger sensor. So the pictures are a little 583 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,680 more sharper. And then of course for B roll, I 584 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,240 sometimes I just grab my iPhone and and do some B roll with the 585 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,280 iPhone, which is I'm never really I'm. 586 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,920 Kind of one of those, I'm kind of one of those like I also 587 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,800 don't have, I think I still have like the 13 Pro iPhone, but I'm 588 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:01,080 one of those like snobs where like I can tell it's iPhone 589 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,680 footage immediately and I just like, don't like how it looks. 590 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,280 I'm just like, no, I like, I like refuse to film on my 591 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,400 iPhone. Like I, I the only time I've 592 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,199 ever filmed the video on my iPhone, I filmed 2 videos. 593 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,679 I did vlogmas a couple years ago and I broke my lens with two 594 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,719 days left. So I had to film 2 videos with 595 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,400 the iPhone and I was just like, I hate this. 596 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,719 Like, even though nobody probably noticed besides me, 597 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,120 like everything's just like for me out, like, you know, I'm just 598 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,920 like, no, I can't. I can't have that. 599 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,320 So when you did the the freelancing in Arizona, like did 600 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,000 you just do whatever people asked you to do or was there a 601 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,480 specific? Kinda, yeah. 602 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,440 Like I did a lot of like fitness stuff. 603 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,120 I used to be like used to do like personal training and 604 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,000 stuff. And then so I was always in gyms 605 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,440 and then, you know, gym people want their videos taken. 606 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,800 So you start doing that. And then back in 2020 when like 607 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,120 the world was affordable, you know, videography rates, even 608 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,960 when you're starting out, it's like I could make like more 609 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,280 money than I'd ever made in like 1 month from doing like some 610 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,800 videos. And I was like, this is insane. 611 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,680 And you know, now I look back on some of that stuff I did, I'm 612 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,560 like, this is the worst stuff I've ever seen. 613 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:22,680 But. Now what? 614 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:27,080 It's like the the bar has gotten so much higher in the last, you 615 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,080 know, 5-6 years. It's insane. 616 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,400 But yeah. So what did you learn doing that 617 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,640 that you now bring into your YouTube, your disc golf YouTube? 618 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,840 So to be honest, I feel like all I really knew was I knew how to 619 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,440 use the settings on, I knew how to shoot in manual on a camera, 620 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,600 which I think separate is like a big, a lot of people think 621 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,160 they're going to get a camera and it'll look really good. 622 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,000 Whereas if you don't know how to use a camera, it's going to look 623 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,120 significantly worse than your iPhone does. 624 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,280 But if you know how to use a camera, it's going to look, in 625 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,040 my opinion, significantly better. 626 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,720 So literally I knew how to shoot in manual, I knew how to like 627 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,600 work the settings and then I already knew how to use Final 628 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,720 Cut Pro. That's kind of it. 629 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:20,800 But, but back in, you know, 2021-2022 in disc golf, if you 630 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,560 knew how to use a camera, you, you were kind of still ahead of 631 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,200 the game a little bit, you know, So it like, I think right away 632 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,640 the production quality like kind of people are like, oh, this 633 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,680 looks a little better than most people, you know, like I think 634 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,200 Foundation at the time, I'm sure their stuff already looked good. 635 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,800 I'm sure like, maybe at the brands actually, like at DD, at 636 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,360 Dysmania, at whatever, they probably had actual media people 637 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,040 making, like, higher quality. But it's in terms of, like 638 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,440 creators, I might have been like one of the only ones who like, 639 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,240 knew how to use a camera. And then like, so I think that 640 00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:04,000 kind of like gave me the upper hand immediately where my first 641 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,120 videos were probably better than they would have been if I went 642 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,480 in with no knowledge, you know? Yeah. 643 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,040 So you earlier you mentioned like that content has gotten 644 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,760 better and better and better. How does that affect how you are 645 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,640 going to move forward with your content? 646 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,720 I guess what is kind of the plans with your car? 647 00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:26,600 Are you just going to like go until you can't go anymore? 648 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,000 What's what's kind of your plan there? 649 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:34,400 That's the question, because that is so honestly, that's what 650 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,320 I like. I wake up every day and that's 651 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,960 the first thing I think about every day for the last like year 652 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,960 because you know, this golf since such a such a good spot, 653 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,680 but also such a weird spot and there's money to be made. 654 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:52,960 But you got to be, I feel like you got to be very business 655 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,200 minded and I am not business minded. 656 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,720 I'm very much like make the art and hopefully people come and 657 00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:03,000 unfortunately that doesn't always work out. 658 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,200 And I really don't have an answer for your question because 659 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,480 that's the question I asked myself like every day. 660 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,280 But I I'm trying to like a kind of touched on is like I'm trying 661 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,200 to make more like in depth videos right now, a little more 662 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,280 like not like all my videos are long form, but I I call them 663 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,600 like long form videos because they're like more of like a 664 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:31,240 process and more of like a story and more just more to them. 665 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,400 The the weird thing in disc golf, though, it's like you can 666 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:43,800 put so much into a video and the return will be the same as going 667 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,480 in reviewing the new disc on the market. 668 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,080 You know, it's so it's so weird. Like I'll spend a week on a 669 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,960 video and then I'll spend one hour on a video and the one hour 670 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,920 video makes me twice as much money and does twice as much 671 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:02,960 views and, and and I'm just like, so I don't know, I'm 672 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,800 trying to like figure out. I really am trying to figure out 673 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,800 that like next move of I know I can't make 5-6 videos a week. 674 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,560 I haven't been doing that in a long time because I realized I, 675 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,440 I just couldn't. But it really is like that kind 676 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,000 of like the business aspect of like, all right, how can I 677 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,520 continue to make this a career and like grow and like make more 678 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,200 money and like make it sustainable basically. 679 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,800 And if somebody has the answer, let me know. 680 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:39,920 Comment Dude I I don't know, it's it's a weird spot right 681 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,320 now. It is disc golf is in a weird 682 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,600 spot because I mean, before the whole pandemic, it was, it feels 683 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,800 like we're kind of back to where we're steadily growing. 684 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,600 How do we get bigger? And then the pandemic and we 685 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,440 exploded. And then all of a sudden it's 686 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,160 just like now it's being, well, we're, it feels like we're 687 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,560 steadying out. But it got deflated pretty big 688 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,360 after the pandemic kind of settled. 689 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,480 I always like to think of it as I think Hunter from Foundation 690 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,280 has said this in a few things where it's like, OK, this is 691 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,400 where we were pre pandemic. This is where we were peak 692 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,760 pandemic. This is where we are now. 693 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,520 So if you really look at it, we're still way up, you know, 694 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,760 and I try and look at it, it's like, yeah, we might be not be 695 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,400 at the peak, but we're still so far up from pre 2020 that like, 696 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,320 you know, I try and look at it that way because I feel like if 697 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,560 I just looked at it as like, oh God, everything's crashing and 698 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,760 burning, I'd be like, what am I even doing, you know? 699 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,440 No, no, we're just, it feels like we're just leveling back 700 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,480 out back to where we need to be rather than trying to get to 701 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,680 that explosive growth and, you know, go ahead. 702 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,840 I was going to say I feel like things like this are good, Like 703 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,840 me and you talking right now because it's disco. 704 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,080 I think it's probably every genre, niche, whatever you want 705 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,600 to call it. But it's like the creators all 706 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,520 need to like be on the same team really. 707 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,400 You know, if one person like breaks through, that's a good 708 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,080 thing for all of us. You know, like I had this 709 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,520 conversation. Me and me and Bonanza, we've 710 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,160 been pretty, pretty good buddies since we both first started. 711 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,080 We both kind of started around the same time. 712 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,880 And I remember a phone call that we had, I had like 1000 713 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,200 subscribers. This was probably about three 714 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,960 years ago. He had maybe, maybe I feel like 715 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,240 he had three. No, maybe I had 3000. 716 00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:40,760 He had like 10,000, so like a fraction of like where now and 717 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,720 we got on a phone call. It was like our first time 718 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:46,200 talking and we just talked about how like the only way we're 719 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,680 making this work is if we all work together, you know, and 720 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,920 from like day one, we've all been like, guys, we need to like 721 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,240 figure this out together because we all want to do this. 722 00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,560 We all want to make a career out of this. 723 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,240 But like right now there is no blueprint. 724 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,240 So we need to figure out the blueprint and it's it hasn't 725 00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:07,560 been easy, but I don't know trying to figure it out. 726 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,360 Yeah, I what I find interesting is like, I mean, I've read 727 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,400 different articles and I've seen different people talk about 728 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,640 where when they ask kids, what do you want to be? 729 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,960 And when they put YouTube down, it's just amazing to think that 730 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,760 this could be something that people strive to be as a career. 731 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,000 With that being said, what are what would if someone were to 732 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,480 ask you or what are some of the misconceptions do you think 733 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,960 people need to know about? That's a good one and I get I 734 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,960 kind of get this question a lot because I I feel like I mean 735 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,120 maybe all the creators, I'm sure a lot of the creators get this 736 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,840 message a lot, but it it's the hey man, you inspired me to 737 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,120 start making content. What camera gear should I get? 738 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,000 What mic should I get? Like what can I do to start out? 739 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:59,120 How should I go about it? And or, and a lot of times the 740 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,920 question is also like, how do I come up with like good ideas? 741 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,320 And I think some of the questions, OK, like if you don't 742 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,960 know anything about gear, here's a few, you know, try this out, 743 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,560 blah, blah, blah, but. It's, you know, it's an 744 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,760 investment. Initially, but I think a lot of 745 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:22,200 times it's all like you have to actually enjoy the process and 746 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,680 disc golf for me has been something I've done my whole 747 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,640 life. You know, pretty much. 748 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:32,880 And I'd be lying if I said like, doing this full time hasn't at 749 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,240 some points taken like a little bit of that joy away where I'm 750 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,640 working one week being like, I got to get these videos out. 751 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,200 And you're just like, you know, this isn't really fun this week. 752 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,840 You know, like I went and filmed the video 2 days ago. 753 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,120 It was like 40° and raining. And I was like, but I'm like, I 754 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,840 have to do this. Like I usually have to go like, 755 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,200 so I just did it and it's it's, it's you have to have like the 756 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,400 passion for it. You also have to be realistic. 757 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,640 I think about how like you're probably not always gonna enjoy 758 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,320 it and it might turn like your favorite thing to do. 759 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,040 It might take the thing that you do to like make yourself the 760 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,680 happiest. It might change that 761 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,680 relationship you have with it. And I guess if we're talking 762 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,840 like YouTube overall, like maybe you can go be a different style 763 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,440 of YouTube. But if we're talking like disc 764 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,040 golf, I think for a lot of people like. 765 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,480 If I was being totally. Honest with a lot of people, I'd 766 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:32,280 say, hey man, just keep posting on Instagram, have fun with it. 767 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,800 Maybe you get to the point where companies send you some free 768 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,520 discs and that's super cool and you get to be part of this 769 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,520 community. But I'm like if you really want 770 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,320 to try and like make the YouTube like full time creator thing a 771 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:49,800 thing like the amount, the amount of hours I feel like that 772 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,600 you have to put in to make like. Dollars. 773 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:59,360 Per hour, like is, I think something that a lot of people 774 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,760 probably don't realize. And I think you just have to 775 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,160 enjoy the process. If you're not the type of person 776 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:10,560 who like enjoys making the videos and enjoys the whole 777 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,720 process. And it's not gonna be all the 778 00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:14,160 time. There's gonna be times when you 779 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,320 don't enjoy it. But like for the most part, if 780 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,880 that's not you, then I think you're you really just like 781 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,360 seeing like maybe the glamour of it and thinking like, I want to 782 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,800 do that. But like it's so much time and 783 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,600 so much like mental, like energy put into it. 784 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,920 And I don't know. That's that's the thing with 785 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,320 that. I struggle with a lot is like 786 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,360 the idea of OK, disc golf's just like been my favorite thing to 787 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:50,640 do my whole entire life. And now it's like the only thing 788 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:53,440 that I think about because it's my job. 789 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,960 And some days I'm like, man, I wish I could just like go play 790 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:03,680 and eat, like disassociate. The idea that like I've, I've 791 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,840 gone through a lot of phases where I feel guilty to play disc 792 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,760 golf if I'm not filming it because I feel like I'm 793 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,640 literally like burning money. Like I'm like, bro, if you just 794 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,880 filmed this, you make more money. 795 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,240 That's how it works. But you're just like choosing 796 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:21,400 not to. I'm like, what, what are you 797 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,040 doing? And but then it's like, yeah, 798 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,760 but I haven't played a casual round in two weeks, 3 weeks. 799 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,440 What you know, and I don't know it, it's, it's tricky. 800 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,880 I think to make it simple, you got it. 801 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,040 You got to have the passion. You got to like enjoy the, the 802 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,280 process of making the videos. But I also think if you're 803 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,720 asking somebody like, hey, man, I want to make YouTube videos 804 00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:47,400 about disc golf, what should I make them about? 805 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,360 Or what could I do to set myself apart? 806 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,880 Maybe it's not for you because I think those those questions 807 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,560 should maybe already be answered for you of like, I want to make 808 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,200 this. It's OK if you're like, hey, 809 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,720 hey, I want to make this. This is the ideas I have. 810 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:06,440 These are the the plans I have. But hey, I need a little help on 811 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:07,880 the camera gear. What should I use? 812 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,040 I'm like, OK, you know what you want. 813 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,920 Like I can help you set up your camera, but I can't help you 814 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,560 come up with the ideas, you know, because that's that's you. 815 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,840 And if it's an idea that comes from me, you're probably not 816 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,160 passionate. About that idea. 817 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:26,480 Yeah, so I like that. Yeah, I get, I get messages on, 818 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,760 you know, Instagram people saying, hey, I, I just found out 819 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,800 disc golf. I love it. 820 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,120 I think it's amazing. I started a YouTube channel or 821 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,280 started Instagram page. Can you send me some gear? 822 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,320 And I'm like, I get it. That's in my mind. 823 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,520 I'm thinking, I get it. That's what helps you create 824 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,680 content. You're excited, which is 825 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,200 fantastic. And then I go check out their 826 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,840 channel and they've got maybe 3 videos or you know, 10 posts on 827 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,160 Instagram. I'm like, I want to say, come 828 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,120 back to me when you have about 30 or 40 videos. 829 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,200 You've been doing it for about a year. 830 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,920 And then if you're still passionate about it, maybe we 831 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,440 can talk. But you know, a lot of people 832 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,480 they, they fizzle out pretty fast when they, they realize 833 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,800 that the fun turns into work and it's actual work. 834 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,720 And then they, they, they lose the fun out of it and then they, 835 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,200 they kind of move on. So. 836 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,480 And I think, I think another like good aspect to like touch 837 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,320 on is it's all about what you want out of it. 838 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,120 Yeah. You know, like if all you want 839 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:27,720 out of it is to have if like the video making is just for fun to 840 00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:31,600 you have at it because that means the views don't matter. 841 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,640 That means nothing matters besides you just like maybe 842 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,120 getting out with your buddies, filming around and and at the 843 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,640 very least when you guys are 70 years old, you can go watch the 844 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,280 videos and make that was so fun. But if you're going into it with 845 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,480 the idea that like, I want to make this my job, well, you got 846 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,120 to like figure you got to really, it's a different, it's a 847 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,760 different. Mindset depending on what you 848 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,920 want out of it so. How are you? 849 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,280 What's your like? What are you most excited for 850 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,400 right now? I, I know you, it's funny 851 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,840 because like you give me your whole intro at the beginning of 852 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,760 the thing, but it's like, trust me, like I've seen about every 853 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,480 disc golf video there is on YouTube. 854 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,600 Like me and my buddies back in middle school used to sit in the 855 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:23,640 basement and like watch every, every single disc golf video. 856 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,760 So it's like I've seen them all. You know, I've seen disc golf 857 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,080 answer man way back in the day. I've seen disc golf weekly. 858 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:36,120 I've seen my favorites are the the Mark Ellis disc craft 859 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,480 instructional clinics. I don't know if you ever saw 860 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,040 those. Mark Ellis, I'm gonna throw my. 861 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,680 Rattler on forehand, but I don't know I. 862 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,120 Guess what? Are you excited for 'cause 863 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,960 you've been part of this? Like you've been making this 864 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,640 content for so long and obviously it's so different now. 865 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,200 I'm just, I'm just excited that it's it's becoming even more a 866 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,480 thing where around the content creation part, right when I 867 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,000 first approached Jeremy and said, Hey, do you find any value 868 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,320 in someone coming out and filming your tournaments and 869 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,000 taking photos? And he was like, yeah, come on 870 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:16,840 out. And I did it. 871 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,320 And then he saw people watching it. 872 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,560 And so he was like, OK, this is something we should do. 873 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,560 But then when I was like trying to talk him into hire me full 874 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,240 time, he was like, do you think you'll have enough to do? 875 00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:31,240 I mean, would you, would you pull an order if we needed you 876 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:32,880 to? And I'm like, yeah, I'd pull an 877 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,280 order. I'd do anything to be able to do 878 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,720 this. And, and by the time I left, it 879 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:40,920 was me and two full time content creators and a part time content 880 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,160 creator. And I was trying to get her to 881 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,400 come on full time. So it's exciting to see though, 882 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:52,360 that other companies and people are seeing that there's a world 883 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,280 that you can create content and it's in disc golf. 884 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,760 So you can kind of join 2 passions that you have. 885 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,000 And, and I mean, as I'm read more about social media and the 886 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,960 growth about the, the creator economy where the average person 887 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,080 is going to become someone that can just make a little bit of 888 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,640 extra money off creating content. 889 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,240 It's exciting to see that happening in disc golf. 890 00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:17,720 Like I said earlier, like the you know, before it was just all 891 00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:19,440 the touring pros that people were after. 892 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,120 Now they're following people that just want to have fun and 893 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,920 play disc golf, which I think is really cool. 894 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,960 I'm having to the big thing I'm learning. 895 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,600 I mean, I'm an old guy. I know that young guys aren't 896 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,880 going to want to watch me to play them. 897 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,280 You know, maybe I'll act a little goofy and stuff like that 898 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,760 and people find it funny, but you know, they're going to watch 899 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,240 you guys or J Millie or the the bonanza, because that's that's 900 00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:45,440 just how it works. But I like that there's still 901 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,200 there still feels like a niche of the older guys that just want 902 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,480 to go play on the weekend. They want to throw a disc really 903 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,480 well. They don't care if they make the 904 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,800 tour. They don't care if they're 905 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,280 winning at tournaments. They just want to go play and 906 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,720 they want their discs to fly right when they throw. 907 00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:04,080 They don't want it to, you know, dump left every time. 908 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,800 And so I'm starting to learn to kind of lean into that more 909 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,360 rather than being, oh, they're going to, you know, laugh at 910 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,320 this big old guy trying to play some disc golf. 911 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,840 So I'm excited about that, that there's different pockets within 912 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,280 disc golf that still make it worthwhile to get out there and 913 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,200 and create content. And just this morning I was 914 00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:26,480 frustrated because I went to the course that I had laid out in my 915 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,360 head. I'm doing stuff with the drift 916 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,720 plastic. So I had a pond nearby and I had 917 00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:33,240 a open field. And I get out there as I'm 918 00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:37,000 putting my gear out and getting things ready and I look up in 919 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:42,760 three big trucks come in and it's got lawn mowers and weed 920 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,480 eaters and everything. All these people jump out and 921 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,600 they're they start doing their thing. 922 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,680 I'm like, are you kidding me? So I'm thinking, OK, I've got 923 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,400 this interview at 11:30. So I was like, I got time to go 924 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,200 to this other course. So I went to this other course 925 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,400 and I was frustrated and I set up and I had to pause and go, 926 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,160 OK, wait. I'm literally outside doing my 927 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,600 job. What I love doing, I'm here. 928 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,360 It's not what I thought, but this course will work out just 929 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,600 fine. And I get to do this. 930 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,400 I get to throw disks and talk about them and I'm getting paid 931 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,920 to do it. So there are time kind of to 932 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,520 what you said as far as it feels like work. 933 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,880 But for me, there's times you, I do have to kind of pause and 934 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,320 say, you know, I could be stuck behind a desk typing away and 935 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,400 never get outside, you know, you know, so, so I'm excited to, to 936 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,560 be back and be able to do that. That's, that's what has me 937 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,080 excited. And then watching you guys, I, I 938 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,880 know it feels weird to say you guys, but like, in all honesty, 939 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,200 what you guys, what, what I did back in the day, right, right. 940 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,440 I was creating content and, and putting stuff out there. 941 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,800 I got a job doing it. And you know, I, I know Jay 942 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,840 Milly just announced that he's not going to do full time. 943 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,920 And I'm like, this is fantastic that it's still an industry 944 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,400 where people can actually make money doing it. 945 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,600 And so that has me excited. Yeah. 946 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,560 Yeah, I like what you'd like. Touchdown is like the because I 947 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,880 had literally like almost the same experience yesterday. 948 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,840 I waited out a leaf blower for like 10 minutes and it was just 949 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,440 like you you get. To the all you hear. 950 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:17,800 And you're like, but then I was like I said, I kind of had the 951 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,960 same realization, though. It was like, it wasn't that nice 952 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,640 out actually. But I kind of just stood there 953 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,440 and I was like, I'll just wait. I'm like, it's a nice fall day. 954 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,280 Like, why am I like I got nowhere to be like whatever, you 955 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,760 know, I was like, this is. Fine, like it was, it was kind 956 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,040 of comical because when I was at the field, there's a huge, you 957 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,520 know, obviously a huge lawnmower, guys riding it. 958 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,880 And I was like, well, maybe I can wait him out. 959 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,120 But then he starts going the wrong way and I'm like, he's 960 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,000 just started crap. And then I went over to the pond 961 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,280 and I thought, well, I'll record the little segment with the 962 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,680 floating discs. So I grab my camera. 963 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,520 I had to walk all the way from a car, grab my camera, put it up. 964 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,920 I get set up and all of a sudden this guy walks around the corner 965 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,600 and starts weed eating the edge of the pond. 966 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,880 I'm like, are you kidding me? So anyway, so yeah, that gets me 967 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,040 excited. So, so, so you already kind of 968 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,440 did. But what I've been doing, asking 969 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,720 people that I interview, I say what's, what's a question that 970 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:13,960 you maybe want to ask me about anything with dynamic disks or 971 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,360 content creation, just to if you've ever thought about asking 972 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,480 somebody that that works in the industry a question, if you had 973 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,960 a question for me, what would it be? 974 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,760 What's the like when you started consuming like, like the new, 975 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,400 this new wave of content, what are maybe like a few things that 976 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:39,080 stuck out that you saw that were like major differences versus 977 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,960 like all the channels that were kind of going, you know, 20 978 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,080 teens, Sarah. That's a great question. 979 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:52,440 You think The first thing that jumps in my mind is that even 980 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,680 though there are still some tutorial style videos, I think 981 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,880 back in the day, that was the big thing is that a lot of 982 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,880 companies wanted to put tutorials out because when you 983 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,320 first discovered disc golf and you Start learning it, it was 984 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,880 like, and that was my objective. If you started saying how to 985 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,040 throw farther, how to do this, I wanted you to discover a dynamic 986 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,840 discs of video. And then we had when we had 987 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,720 Danny creating those, those videos, we were accomplishing 988 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:17,960 that. I mean, he was pumping out some 989 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,440 amazing instructional videos. And so, but now I notice it's 990 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:29,880 just there's, there's more of a style 1st and then it's disc 991 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,760 golf rather than it was like teach people about your disc, 992 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,520 teach people how to throw the disc, you know, and then it was 993 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,440 of course, tournament coverage, you know, watch this tournament, 994 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,960 watch your favorite players. But now it's like a style, you 995 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,840 know, Jamie Lee has a style, Silas has a style, you have a 996 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,920 style. So that was the biggest thing I 997 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:52,920 noticed, which is exciting that the style of the content was the 998 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,400 top main theme. And then disc golf just happened 999 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,480 to be the background for that style. 1000 00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,960 Yeah. That's what that's interesting 1001 00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:03,320 you touch on that because that's always been a thing from day 1002 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,600 one. Is that like I, I almost want 1003 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,120 like disc golf to be like secondary like you're watching 1004 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,600 this to just hang out with me for 20 minutes and I just happen 1005 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,240 to be disc golfing, which you also probably really enjoy 1006 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,000 because that's probably why you found this channel. 1007 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,800 But like. That I could, I can, totally. 1008 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,120 I've never had somebody else like. 1009 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,840 Put it that way of like it's like. 1010 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,960 You. Like to really be, I think, a 1011 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,600 successful creator, you need people to like you and like want 1012 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,440 to watch. You and then whatever you're 1013 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:39,040 doing cool and so it's good. Kind of good confirmation, I 1014 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,160 guess to almost hear that like you recognize that. 1015 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,040 Yeah, another way to put it is personality, right? 1016 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,600 I think that was the thing we noticed back in the day was, you 1017 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,040 know, we didn't have all the top, top players, but people 1018 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,600 love the personalities. They loved our person. 1019 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,720 Some people hated me, some people liked me, some people 1020 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,400 would like Eric, some people liked Robert McCall. 1021 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,920 You know, so they were able to connect with the personality 1022 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:03,480 they like. Yeah. 1023 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:04,160 People. Yeah. 1024 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,600 We were talking about comments before. 1025 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,360 One that always makes me laugh is the one guy literally said 1026 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,480 you're the worst thing that happened, the dynamic disks and 1027 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,880 you should be fired. And was the comments on there. 1028 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,160 I was like, oh, bro. So anyway, yeah, it was it's 1029 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,720 it's it. That's the one I noticed big 1030 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,040 time. It was more about the 1031 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,480 personality. People connected with your 1032 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,680 personality. And then the other connection 1033 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,280 was we both like disc golf. I like disc golf. 1034 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,520 You like disc golf. I watch you play disc golf, 1035 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,840 which I think is great. Yeah, that also is definitely 1036 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,120 like a direction like I've done like some videos in the past 1037 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,760 where like there is no disc golf. 1038 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,360 It's whether it's like a vlog or or whatever. 1039 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,720 And that is something that I want to like do more of because 1040 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,280 I know in in the long run, it's like if you can broaden your 1041 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,600 horizons and do more and not have to be at a disc golf 1042 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,720 course, you know, every day of the week, like it's going to 1043 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,880 create more. At least like for the creator, 1044 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,880 you're able to kind of separate that one thing and do more and 1045 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:10,360 have more people from maybe outside just that core disc golf 1046 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,040 audience become part of your audience. 1047 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,080 And maybe they start playing disc golf because they're like, 1048 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,680 wait, I saw this guy in a vlog, but he also plays. 1049 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,040 Let me go try that or let me you know. 1050 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,840 So like there's, I think there's a point in where you kind of do 1051 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,960 maybe need to branch out because disc golf is only so big. 1052 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,960 And I think having that personality first is kind of 1053 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,520 like you have to have that in order to. 1054 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,280 Try and do that. Yeah, yeah. 1055 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,920 All right, well, I appreciate your time, Roderick. 1056 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,920 This is this is fun. It was good to get to know you. 1057 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,120 And I, I agree with you. The content creators definitely 1058 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,920 need to kind of even learn from each other. 1059 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,600 Like, hey, I tried this. I thought it worked. 1060 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,160 It was really cool. So I think I think when, like 1061 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,800 you said, when a couple of you do good, everybody does good 1062 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,880 because that just makes people want to watch more disc golf 1063 00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,200 content. So I appreciate that. 1064 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,880 And just in case, if any of our followers, I'm sure they know 1065 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,600 where to find you, but let us know where they can follow you 1066 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,120 and find you online. Yeah, YouTube is just Broderick 1067 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,120 has period at the end. If you type disc golf after it, 1068 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,720 it'll definitely come up. I think it might might be might 1069 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,880 come up now if you just type type my name in. 1070 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:23,080 BRODERIC And then Instagram is under score, Broderick under 1071 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,720 score. And I think that's all I have. 1072 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,040 Is just this just Instagram and YouTube? 1073 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,040 Nice. Yeah, Alright. 1074 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,480 Well, again, I appreciate your time, man. 1075 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:32,880 Yeah. Thank you.