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Hey everybody, welcome to this 
episode of the Disc Golf and I'm

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Bobby. 
Cool Daddy, Slick Breeze and we 

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have Eric. 
Why are you wearing a hoodie 

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today, McCabe? 
That's a good question. 

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I woke up this. 
Morning and it was like a little

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chilly this morning and then I 
went home at lunch and it was 

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like 82°. 
Yeah, yeah, it was like in the 

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60s this morning when I went to 
the gym. 60s and dark but yeah. 

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No, but it's a lightweight 
hoodie too. 

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Yeah, it's, it's like one of 
those like sun hoodies, Yeah, 

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you know, like protection from 
the sun and all that. 

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But yeah, yeah, it's it's not 
bad. 

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It's not bad inside. 
Inside DD it gets a little. 

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Cold. 
It does get a little cold. 

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So it does get a little cold. 
Oh, I got myself a little 

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refrigerator to put in my office
too. 

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Oh nice. 
Yeah, so you're gonna put 6 

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packs of beer? 
Of. 

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Sodas in there? 
Sodas. 

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I have my seltzers, my seltzers 
in there. 

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So, but OK, real quick, I want a
little bit of information for 

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you. 
So now it's been a while since 

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we've done it Answer Man show, 
we've been a little bit busy 

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here, a lot of things going on, 
but we're back and also I'm 

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going to be moving the disc golf
Answer Man videos over to the 

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actual youtube.com/discgolf 
Answer Man OK, Now a lot of 

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people are like, oh great, 
another channel to keep up with.

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No, not yes and no, I get it. 
But I think the way the YouTube 

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algorithm is and the way YouTube
is pushing stuff out there, I 

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want it, You know, guys, I 
always like to learn an 

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experiment. 
So I want to experiment. 

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So I'm going to this episode 
will be on the the disc off 

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Answer Man YouTube channel, but 
it'll be collaborated with. 

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That's what I was gonna ask the.
Dynamic disc YouTube channel SO.

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Explain to me what the 
collaboration on YouTube is. 

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Does it show it 'cause it 
doesn't show it on D DS YouTube 

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channel right? 
Is it just push it out to their 

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Subs? 
And so that's the whole thing 

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about the way I mean, AI is 
getting smarter, algorithms are 

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getting smarter where you don't 
necessarily you don't have to be

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subscribed to a channel for 
YouTube to push that content out

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to you, right? 
So if we put it on the disc golf

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answer, man, my thinking is, is 
that the podcast style that 

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we're doing will be what people 
it'll it'll push out to people 

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that like podcast style, but 
we're going to also collaborate 

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with DD so that yes, if you're a
subscriber to the DD, you're not

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going to get notified or 
anything like that. 

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But as you're looking through 
disc golf content, you're going 

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to, you should come across it. 
Cool. 

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So we're going to experiment and
see what happens there. 

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We'll see what happens. 
So if you're come across this, 

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you're like, whoa, this, 
shouldn't this be on the dynamic

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disc YouTube channel? 
Now you know why. 

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Or I mean how many Subs does DG 
AM have? 

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I think like 1200. 
Dang, 12 million is a lot, yeah.

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12 million. 
So, you know, I don't know why I

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haven't moved it over there yet.
Until now, no, it only has 1200 

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subscribers, but I don't think 
so. 

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I don't think that matters. 
Yeah, it's not. 

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It doesn't matter as much as it 
it did. 

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It's still relevant. 
Don't get me wrong, it's still 

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relevant. 
It doesn't matter as much as it 

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did. 
Now if you're an audio listener 

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and you listen to an audio, it 
don't matter. 

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It's still going to be the same 
channel that we've been putting 

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out. 
So that's good for you guys. 

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So now, if you are watching this
and you should be watching this,

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if you're listening, you should 
check it out. 

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But we have a bunch of discs on 
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Like I said, bunch. 
Been a while, so we have a lot 

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to talk about whole. 
Let's talk about just the 

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slammer first, because that's 
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That's the slammer, the slam 
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Slam Squatch. 
It's classic blend plastic and 

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it is the OG Slammer. 
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that we had that are kind of 
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These these are more of a a 
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say. 
I don't know how many people are

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familiar with this disc, but 
it's got a thumb track on the 

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top like the saki bomb ones do, 
but it's not quite as dumpy. 

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It's not quite as over stable as
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I will say they are still pretty
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those were, but great. 
I mean they look fantastic too. 

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When I open that box, I'm like, 
holy cow, these things are like 

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swirly and sick looking like I 
hadn't seen him before. 

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So yeah. 
And it's got a really cool 

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image. 
I don't remember who the artist 

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was for this, but it's got a 
Sasquatch slamming a a disc into

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a basket so it's pretty cool. 
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this kind of teal and then pink 
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Cotton candies the. 
Most right, but there's about 3 

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or 4, three or 4. 
Different colors, Yeah, Yep. 

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Check that out. 
Those are available right now, 

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right now. 
And then we also want to talk 

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about what's coming up for 
Halloween. 

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We have this Thursday, so that 
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October 15th. 
So on October 16th, these are 

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available. 
What are these, Eric? 

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This is a moonshine heist and 
it's got one of my favorite 

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Halloween stamps that we've 
done. 

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I had the idea of like a, a 
zombie teddy bear kind of thing,

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right? 
And Kevin, our graphic designer 

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absolutely killed this one. 
I do like, I, I do have to admit

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that I called it barely alive 
and I absolutely love that cause

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it's spelled like barely alive 
and it's got a little teddy bear

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and a little zombie on it. 
But this is moonshine so it 

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glows in the dark. 
Perfect time of year to stock up

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on some moonshine plastic 'cause
it is officially glow season. 

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So The Heist is a fantastic 
disc, a great release this year.

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So we wanted to do some 
moonshine guys on those. 

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These are color moonshine. 
So I believe we have like 

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yellow, blue and orange on 
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And we also have what Bobby has 
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So it is it's got kind of a cool
little stamp on it too. 

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It's got like a hand coming out 
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That's like dead guy coming out 
of the ground grabbing a a jury 

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basically, I guess is what it 
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But those are those are also 
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So it is moonshine season as I 
spoke and time to get some glow 

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plastic in the bag. 
And these are triple stamp, 

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right? 
These are both triple stamps. 

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Yeah, so nice. 
Color different color variations

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was really cool so. 
Jury's a nice very predictable 

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slash overstable putter. 
So putting approach type of a 

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disc so all. 
Right, then one more series and 

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then we'll hop into some 
questions and we'll talk about 

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some other discs down the here 
in a little bit. 

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But this is also from Hand Eye 
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This is a skeleton series and 
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whole Halloween type spooky 
theme spooky. 

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And I have in my hand a trespass
and it has the Raven skeleton 

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stamp on it. 
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convict and it has a bat 
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It's really creepy, but really 
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And then I. 
I have the bat or no? 

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It's a Kitty cat, right? 
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Dead, dead dude. 
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is what we'll say. 
It's not the new run, I believe.

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Let me look correct. 
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This is the older run of Emac 
Truth, so if you're concerned 

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about the new emac being too 
stable for you, which I don't 

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think you will be, but if you 
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older ones, stock up on these 
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Now, how did you you were 
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I was. 
Looking at the bottom, so on the

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bottom of it it has the same 
emac signature on it, but 

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underneath it the truth is in 
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older ones is all lowercase. 
Now, if that truth is all, all 

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capital letters, then you know 
it is the new or retooled 

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version of the Emac truth, which
if you don't know, that disc has

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been retooled to fly closer to 
like the flight numbers of 5502 

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as where these guys are closer 
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somewhere in that that realm. 
But yeah, these are great. 

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The new ones are great. 
Get them both. 

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Yeah, and these are moonshine. 
Moon shine. 

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Yeah, those are colored 
moonshine too, these guys. 

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I need to do like a little 
moonshine. 

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We need to do moonshine round or
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Like that? 
Yeah, they do. 

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Every Friday here in Emporia. 
Oh, that's. 

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Right. 
Yep. 

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Every Friday. 
But you're not here on Friday. 

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I know. 
Maybe I need to stick around on 

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a Friday one time. 
Friday. 

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All right, so let's get to the 
questions guys. 

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Thank you for sending the 
questions. 

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Go to discgolfanswerman.com, 
submit your questions, and we 

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will get them on the air and 
answer them for you. 

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Another one's a little old, but 
let's see what you have to say. 

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This is from Cody. 
Are you guys sending any cool 

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drops to USDCDUSDGC this year? 
And are Bobby or Eric going to 

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be in attendance? 
I will be there. 

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I will see you there officially.
I will see you there. 

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He was there. 
We're obviously this is after 

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USDZCI was not there, but Eric 
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I was there and we didn't. 
We didn't personally have any 

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drops, but I hung out with Tyler
Searle at SOAR, the Soar tent, 

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and he had some pretty cool 
plastic, some older school 

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stuff. 
He had some melting stuff. 

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He had some team discs from 
House of discs there that he was

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releasing and I think probably 
the most popular item that he 

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had was the new, I think it's Q 
line DD3's, the new Gannon disc 

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for his commemorative worlds 
win. 

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So those were out there and 
those were, those were pretty 

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good. 
USC was great. 

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It was a lot of fun. 
Yeah, I watched a couple other 

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people that were out there and 
they said the vendor village was

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really cool. 
I spent a lot of time there. 

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There was a. 
Lot of people there. 

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I spent, I mean, every day I was
there helping tie with the tent 

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and talking to people and yeah, 
it was just really cool. 

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I saw the shout out Disc Golf 
World guys talk to them a little

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bit. 
Yeah, they were set up right 

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across from us. 
So yeah, it was cool. 

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Cool networking and and hanging 
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Been a while all. 
Right next one is from Max, he 

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says with Excuse me, with the 
sake bomb slammer seeming to 

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make its way out, will the mold 
be kept or will we get another 

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nice overstable utility putter 
with a thumb track? 

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Good question. 
Yeah, I, I think you'll probably

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see, I mean depending on the 
popularity, we'd have to go back

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and look at numbers on this, I 
think on, on sales and, and how 

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popular the mold was and how 
many more people are requesting 

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that mold. 
But I could definitely see us 

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keeping that mold around because
it is, it is kind of like that 

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very, you know, harpish type 
disc for our lineup and has the 

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thumb track on the top for 
easier grip on a, on a forehand.

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And that's really what that disc
is for is for four hand 

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approaches. 
So I could see us possibly 

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renaming it and and keeping it 
in our lineup. 

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Very cool. 
Just so you know too, I told 

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somebody on Instagram Live 
before you got here, he said. 

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Air Heist so. 
Already coming out next year. 

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It's already on my Yeah, there 
you go. 

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I can even tell you it's going 
to be June when you see him. 

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But. 
But yeah, it is already heist, 

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motive and treason all coming 
out in air next year. 

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Heist. 
Oh, treason. 

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Air treason. 
I want to check that one out. 

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I think that'd be good. 
So yeah. 

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Anyway. 
So I can't remember the name, 

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I'm sorry, but if you happen to 
catch this, there you go, Air 

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Air heist coming out. 
John wants to know how does the 

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treason compare to the sword? 
I used to have two amazing 

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flippy tournament swords that 
would flip up and glide for 

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days. 
It was when the numbers were 

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printed, 02, but they were more 
understable than any new sword I

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have bought since. 
I still have one of the old ones

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for comparison. 
Did they update the sword mold? 

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To my knowledge, no, they 
haven't done anything to that 

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mold. 
Now keep in mind, much like the 

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emac truth, I don't know if it's
it's it. 

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It's possible that it's plastic 
run to run that changes the 

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effect of the flight 'cause you 
think about it, If it if a disc 

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it. 
That's why people like find, Oh,

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those those 2018 run of 
trespasses that were blue with 

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yellow stamps or whatever, you 
know, those are the ones I got 

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to find because because those 
flew perfect for them. 

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Every I mean, if it cools 
different, if the Dome is 

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different, then everything is 
going to have run to run. 

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You know, now, sometimes it's 
not as significant as others, 

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but there are definite different
runs that that fly a little bit 

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different. 
So I don't believe, you know, 

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Oscar could correct me, but I 
don't believe that they've 

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changed the mold on this sword. 
To my knowledge, they haven't. 

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And that's why, you know, flight
numbers or flight numbers. 

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We just kind of deal with it. 
But as far as the treason to the

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sword, the treason is going to 
be quite a bit more under stable

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than the sword, similar in 
speed, but you're going to get a

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little bit more turn on that 
disc and a little less fade than

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you would say with a sword 
there. 

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You go and if you're curious 
about how different levels, 

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skill levels throw the trees, 
and I just released a is this 

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described for you? 
I changed the format just a 

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little bit where we're at. 
And instead of just going 

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through and seeing everybody 
throw it and talk about it, 

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where we got a question we posed
in the video. 

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And then throughout the the 
video, we answer the question 

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and then see the different 
throwers. 

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You see Eric throwing it, You 
even throw it. 

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Look at dude, we're telling you 
the truth. 

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You even throw, see him throw it
and it just turns. 

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Yeah. 
Just dumps over. 

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Yeah. 
So we want you to know. 

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We want you to know if you're at
that level, this is how it's 

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going to throw. 
But then of course you turn 

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around and you put it in the air
and it came back really nice, 

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so. 
And roller too. 

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I put it on the ground I saw at 
USDDCI was following Burrage and

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I saw him throw a roller with 
the treason. 

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Oh yeah, yeah, I thought it was 
pretty cool. 

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So, so, and then I'm throwing 
it, Jackie's throwing it. 

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And then we we were able to 
capture a few of the juniors 

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throwing it. 
So check that out on the YouTube

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channel. 
OK, Next one is Joshua. 

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Peeping, peeping, peeping, 
peeping. 

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People often talk about making 
putting harder by making. 

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Oh, that's interesting. 
That's going to be our topic we 

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talk about later. 
Hey now. 

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So I'm going to save this 
question. 

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OK, save it. 
OK, so let's go to Kevin. 

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Wait, you deleted it? 
I'm just kidding, OK? 

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She scared me 'cause I've. 
Known all the new. 

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Stuff like that. 
Kevin wants to know with the 

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release of the Latitudes 0 Pro 
plastic, are classic Pro judges 

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and wardens happening? 
And are there plans to run that 

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plastic in colors other than 
white now? 

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I'm not familiar with the 0 Pro.
Only Emac judges. 

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What? 
That's not true. 

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OK, Yeah, actually I have. 
I have it on my projected 2026 

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release as well. 
The judge, I believe it's Judge,

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Warden, emac, judge and deputy 
all in the 0 pro. 

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It's what latitude. 
It's a new plastic Latitude 

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releases here. 
It's the peak in the trilogy 

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challenges that plastic type. 
It's it's like it's it's 

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marketed as the most durable 
baseline plastic. 

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So it doesn't beat in quite as 
fast as, say, our classic or our

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prime, but it has great grip, 
good feel and good consistent 

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release. 
Nice, There you go. 

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Say it one more time. 
Which molds. 

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Judge, Warden, Emac, Judge, 
Deputy. 

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So our four, our 4, you know, 
more popular putting putters. 

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Yes, I think I'm going to go 
back to the deputy. 

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Yeah, I had the deputy. 
I switched to the judge because 

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we had the the Mr. Breeze and so
I was super excited about that. 

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But I think I'm gonna go back to
the deputy. 

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I think it'll serve me better 
than the judge. 

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So. 
But that's just. 

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Nice straight flying, right? 
It's a little straighter so. 

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Yeah, all right, Caleb's asks. 
Hey, Bobby and Eric. 

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So I've been an active player 
since 2017. 

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My first event was actually the 
2018 Trilogy challenge. 

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I was curious when I started 
playing, the trilogy challenge 

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was full of at least one 
prototype disc a year, and over 

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the past few years, 2021 onward,
there seems to be less and less 

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variety in the packs per year 
over year. 

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I was pumped to finally see the 
fusion bounty come out because 

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before this release, the only 
ones in existence were from the 

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2020 trilogy challenge. 
I didn't realize that when I saw

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the fusion battle, I was like 
what's the big deal? 

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And then I didn't realize that. 
Anyway, I understand that this 

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is a beginner's event and it and
the disc are more tailored to 

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growing the sport. 
However, that does feel like it 

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has gotten too stale over the 
past few years. 

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Agree, agree. 
Agreeing percent. 

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I couldn't agree more with that 
statement. 

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And yes, it, it's funny because 
I actually sent an e-mail over 

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to the brand managers at 
Latitude and Westside and 

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discussed, you know, hey, it's 
that time of year. 

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We need to start talking about 
Trilogy challenge. 

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What's the new molds for next 
year? 

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Are we doing a new mold? 
Are we doing a new effect? 

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What's the, you know, who gets 
the putter, the mid, the driver?

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That's kind of how we do it. 
We kind of start out around this

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time of year and start working 
on those things. 

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So if it, if it were up to me 
and I made that final decision, 

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I would at least do 1 brand new 
mold across the board. 

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It's really, really hard to do 3
'cause I mean, just how 

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expensive a brand new mold is 
and promoting it properly. 

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And I mean, let's be honest, all
three of the, that we'll call 

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trilogy brands have a full 
lineup now. 

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And it's hard, hard, hard to 
replace like a putter or a 

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staple mid range in your bag. 
So the, the thought was to go 

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and, and kind of do like maybe 
maybe new effects instead of new

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molds, but I'm going to try and 
get back to where we can have 

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like a brand new mold and I'm, 
I'm pushing for it to be a new 

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DD mold next year. 
People you speak it, we listen, 

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and it may not, may or may not 
happen. 

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Yeah, you never know. 
So let's see, let's jump to 

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John. 
The question is for Eric. 

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What's up, John? 
I'll leave. 

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See you. 
See you. 

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I live in at Dubuque, IA. 
Yep, Dubuque, which is right 

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next to Piasta. 
Yeah, you did it. 

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First time ever you've said 
that, right? 

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Right. 
Where you said you had 

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redesigned the Kelly Oaks 
course, I was just there and 

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noticed that the city has not 
gone through with the redesign 

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yet and was wondering if they 
gave you a timeline of when 

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things would be complete. 
Love the course, played a lot 

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when I was first starting and it
taught me a lot about my game. 

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Awesome. 
Yeah, that park is is 

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phenomenal. 
It's got some great rolling 

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hills. 
It's not super long, but there's

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some good elevation. 
They, the timeline, I need to 

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make a note and send him an 
e-mail again. 

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But yeah, I think the timeline 
was was hopeful to be by end of 

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fall to have the baskets in the 
ground and the new Tees poured 

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and all that. 
Now it isn't a full redesign. 

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It's really only two to three 
holes that we had to tweak 

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because of The Walking path. 
The Walking path is done and now

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they I think most of their focus
is on the pavilion that they're 

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building on property. 
So pavilion slash parking lot is

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kind of takes priority over 
where the disc golf course is 

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and where it goes unfortunately.
But I would say by by spring 

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you're going to be playing a a 
relatively new disc golf course 

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there. 
Why do typically courses? 

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Why do people want to redesign a
course? 

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You know, I think a lot of it 
is, I mean, in my opinion, a 

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course is always ever evolving. 
So like for instance, Jones 

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Park, look how many reiterations
that Jones Park has gone 

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through. 
You know, we've we've redesigned

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that course. 
We've moved baskets like every 

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year when we used to host GBO 
after GBO, one of the big topics

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was what are we changing? 
What are we going to? 

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You know, I think it's a lot of 
it is just freshening up and and

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making maybe the course harder 
or if a whole play too hard, 

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making an easier pin or T pad, 
losing trees. 

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You know, the city comes through
and puts a sidewalk through the 

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middle of your property 
property. 

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Those are the main reasons that 
you see for a redesign. 

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There's not too many courses out
there that have gone in the 

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ground and that's the layout 
that stays forever. 

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You know what I mean? 
There's, there's usually some 

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modifications to whether it's 
like I said, new Tees or new 

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pens or sometimes like Jones 
Park, a full redesign a handful 

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of times cause we've done that a
handful of times out at Jones 

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Park. 
But I think every time the 

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course gets better now there are
some old heads that kind of 

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like, man, I really miss the old
Jones. 

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I miss this old hole. 
And I agree, I miss some of 

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those old holes. 
Matter of fact, my first ace is 

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a hole that's non existent 
anymore. 

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It's completely gone. 
And the cool thing is my 30th 

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anniversary for that ace is 
coming up next month. 

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I'm thinking about taking a 
portable basket out and setting 

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it up where the hole was and see
if you can get it and seeing if 

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it with the same disc. 
But I don't know if I'll be able

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to do that or not. 
But but yeah, so that's, that's 

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kind of it, you know, I mean, 
there's the to me, to me, I'm 

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it's like being an artist, I 
guess almost. 

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It's it's you're never 
satisfied, you know, I mean, you

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sure you can get a course that 
you're super happy with and look

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at the courses on tour. 
Look at like, for instance, 

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USDGC, what's the topic? 
Every single year at USDGC, what

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they change what's different, 
you know, and they're always 

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trying to make it more 
difficult. 

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No different than park style 
golf. 

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So, well, you mentioned the 
change of that Jones. 

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I remember when I first got back
here, I would I was going for 

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walks and I would take a couple 
discs with me to throw and I got

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lost on Jones. 
I bet it's. 

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Like I don't understand this 
course anymore. 

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What is going on? 
So, yeah. 

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So, OK, so when it comes to 
redesign, is it about the same 

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or less as far as red tape to 
make a redesign happen? 

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Is it more difficult to make a 
redesign happen or get a course 

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in? 
Typically, it's a lot easier to 

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do the redesigns because you've 
already dealt with, you know, 

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the red tape, the whatever's 
that you need to go through. 

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Now if it's a thick wooded 
course then maybe it's a little 

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more challenging, but for the 
most part the red tape is a lot 

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thicker on a new course. 
OK, very interesting. 

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All right, I'm going to jump 
down to a couple questions. 

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I know the I know the answer. 
So Mike said what happened to 

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the episode around August 26th 
that was posted for a day and 

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now it's nowhere to be found? 
There was some kind of technical

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snafu. 
But I snafu. 

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But I have it now figured out 
and I pushed it back out there 

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and you'll see if you are a 
audio listener it'll say re 

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upload and so I re uploaded that
episode. 

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I am not. 
See what happened. 

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You even redesign. 
I know podcast episodes. 

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Let's see. 
And then another one. 

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This is 1 is is an interesting 
question from Joshua. 

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He says two-part question. 
What was? 

447
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,480
Does it OK? 
Why does it seem? 

448
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,600
I think it's what he's saying, 
that disc golf apparel stock is 

449
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,000
always lacking. 
Does it not sell well? 

450
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,680
Is this why? 
And then he has a statement. 

451
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,160
I love hats and patches, and it 
always seems that there isn't 

452
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,040
enough hats or patches. 
And from my perspective, yeah, I

453
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,360
mean, that's kind of what it is.
Apparel with disc golf has 

454
00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:45,600
always been a weird animal. 
I remember back in the day when.

455
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,360
Denise, you like what you like. 
Yeah. 

456
00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:49,200
And Denise was in charge of 
apparel. 

457
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,160
We were working together to do 
the apparel. 

458
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,440
And you think something would 
hit and you're like, man, we see

459
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,040
it everywhere. 
And then it just wouldn't hit. 

460
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,000
And then you're stuck with a lot
of apparel. 

461
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,120
And then so that's basically 
money sitting there that you 

462
00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:04,880
want to reinvest into more 
apparel, but you can't because 

463
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,280
it's just sitting there and you 
got to sell it. 

464
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,680
And then it's like, do we 
discount it? 

465
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,760
Do you lose money on it and all 
that stuff so. 

466
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,720
I like bags. 
Yes, it's a finicky. 

467
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,720
It's just it's really finicky. 
And then I think the other, you 

468
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,800
know. 
That said, you are going to see 

469
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,840
some more apparel coming out and
some more hats and patches and 

470
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,600
those kind of things coming down
the pipeline. 

471
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:29,280
But it's, it, it's just tough 
to, to not read the room, I 

472
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,880
guess. 
But it, it's tough to to 

473
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,560
pinpoint what direction we want 
to go as far as what images we 

474
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,720
want on a shirt because it's got
to be popular. 

475
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,040
And, and a lot of times in the 
past it was, it was, you know, 

476
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,360
whoever was in charge of that, 
it was kind of their taste, 

477
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,640
right, going out. 
And we want to open the door up 

478
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,480
a little bit more and create 
things that maybe I wouldn't 

479
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,240
wear. 
Yeah, but there's tons of people

480
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:52,800
out there that. 
Would. 

481
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,520
Yeah, so and so, yeah, you'll 
see more what our design guy 

482
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,640
calls always on, meaning it's 
just kind of like has our name, 

483
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,360
It's nice colors. 
The colors will change, but 

484
00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:04,560
it'll say dynamic disks or I 
have the double DS. 

485
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,120
But then also you'll see some 
other stuff. 

486
00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:08,280
So hopefully you'll see some 
more stuff, but it's going to be

487
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,000
like. 
Man, I'd like to see that on a 

488
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,960
shirt. 
That would be, are we allowed to

489
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,360
do? 
That sure, it's ours. 

490
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,040
Yeah, that's a yeah. 
Why don't we ask them to put 

491
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,240
that on a shirt? 
We're going to do it. 

492
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,040
Boom. 
So yeah, you'll start seeing 

493
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,440
more stuff. 
So we're excited about that. 

494
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,440
OK, let's talk about these other
discs. 

495
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,160
That we have other discs. 
So this one's kind of a funky 

496
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,440
retro mixtape. 
They call it design. 

497
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,720
All I can hear is the Saved by 
the Bell theme when I pick that 

498
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,000
disc up. 
Am I wrong? 

499
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,680
No, you're not wrong. 
That doesn't. 

500
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,320
Look like saved by the bell. 
Yeah. 

501
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,160
So this is on a glimmer warrant?
It's 90s mixtape I believe is 

502
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,480
what the stamp is called. 
So it's, it's a triple stamp as 

503
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,720
well. 
I think we just happened to have

504
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,840
the stamp around and we had some
glimmer warrants that looked 

505
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,800
really cool. 
And these things feel good. 

506
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,040
They don't feel like a normal 
warrant for whatever reason. 

507
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,640
Maybe it's just 'cause I'm not 
used to the warrant, 'cause I 

508
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,320
don't bag the warrant. 
But the warrant is a pretty 

509
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,840
under stable mid range. 
So it's, you know, as far as 

510
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,000
stability goes, you've got, you 
got the justice on one end and 

511
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,800
this is on the other end of that
spectrum as far as stability 

512
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,920
would go. 
But the warrant can be thrown by

513
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,440
almost anyone. 
If you do happen to have a 

514
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,440
little bit slower arm speed, 
highly recommend picking up a 

515
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,320
warrant. 
Or if you play a lot of woods 

516
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,280
golf, that Heiser flip dream. 
This is real. 

517
00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:26,440
I always have a warrant in my 
bag. 

518
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,560
I thought you were going to say 
you always have a warrant for 

519
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,720
your arrest. 
No no, no no. 

520
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,720
I really am into body Cam 
videos. 

521
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,680
Have you watched those? 
Yet I haven't. 

522
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,160
But you've told me about it 
numerous. 

523
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,840
Times addicted. 
Dude. 

524
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,320
It's yeah. 
Do you ever watch Cops Remember?

525
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,480
Cops. 
I used to watch cops. 

526
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,800
And Live PD. 
Why are you sweating? 

527
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,200
I was watching Cops earlier. 
There. 

528
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,000
Why are there cops here? 
Did you ever watch Live PD? 

529
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,840
No, I watched, I watched like 
Alaskan State Troopers or those 

530
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,040
kind of shows. 
So I I I got the gist of what 

531
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,400
the show is. 
It's like cops on steroids 

532
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,080
because it. 
Is because it's action-packed. 

533
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,560
It's literally the body Cam that
police officers wear. 

534
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,880
And so there's some that are 
just simple like traffic stops. 

535
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,800
Gotcha. 
There's some that are like they 

536
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,840
have to do the the sobriety 
tests and then there's somewhere

537
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,320
like people are just fighting 
the cops and and there's 

538
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,040
somewhere there's like shooting.
I mean, it's, jeez, it's it's. 

539
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,880
Intense. 
There's one called mind rush and

540
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,680
they literally say get ready for
a mind rush and I'm like let's 

541
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,640
go. 
Man. 

542
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:26,960
Yeah, I'm addicted. 
Sorry. 

543
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,800
Sounds like it. 
So let's let's talk. 

544
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,400
Let me know if you're if you. 
If you watch it, comment down 

545
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,160
below. 
Comment down below your comment 

546
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,560
below your favorite body Cam 
YouTube channel so I can get 

547
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,800
some more so we have the drift. 
Finally out. 

548
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,520
Yes, it's out for wholesale. 
So if you're a business and you 

549
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,920
need something new for your 
store. 

550
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,800
Or if you have a local business 
that you go to to buy discs, let

551
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,800
them know. 
Pick up some of these drifts. 

552
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,080
So and then they go live October
30th for retail. 

553
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,160
But tell us why, Eric, why did 
you bring back the drift? 

554
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,280
So we tried to do the drift 
plastic. 

555
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:08,880
What was that 2014 ish with the 
witness and they were terrible. 

556
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,080
Can I get a witness? 
Absolutely bad, terrible. 

557
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,520
So I, you know, with the, the 
zero gravity plastic that came 

558
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,560
out a year or two ish ago from 
latitude 64, it really made me 

559
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,640
get to thinking that hey, you 
know, we're, we're the 

560
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,800
recruitment brand here. 
We need to do this. 

561
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,880
We need to have discs that float
on water for I don't know how 

562
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,800
many times I've I've talked to 
new players or someone looking 

563
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,960
to get into the game and they're
like, man, that's a that's 

564
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:37,920
$18.00 disc. 
Does it float 'cause I my course

565
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,360
has a lot of water on it? 
Well, unfortunately, no, it 

566
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:42,720
doesn't. 
So this solves all those 

567
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,720
problems. 
And we did a video not too 

568
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,760
terribly long ago with Bobby and
I and he was throwing these 

569
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,320
discs and I would say the 
majority of them flew I would 

570
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,320
say similar to the flight of 
like the normal molds, maybe 

571
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,600
just a tick more under stable. 
So if like for instance, the 

572
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,080
escape or the Sergeant is is 
quite a bit stable for you, 

573
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,680
these are going to fly exactly 
like they would for Bobby, like 

574
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,440
Bobby throwing a Max weight 1. 
So when Bobby goes out and 

575
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,520
throws a Max weight escape, this
is probably going to fly for you

576
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,640
just like that. 
But we wanted to come out with a

577
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,800
line of discs that's, you know, 
relatively inexpensive. 

578
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,000
We're going to have some starter
sets come in before too long as 

579
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,920
well. 
But something that you know, 

580
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,600
beginners can get. 
There's a lot of courses out 

581
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,800
there with water. 
I love designing courses with 

582
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,360
water. 
It's job security when we sell 

583
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:34,440
discs, but here we'll throw you 
a bone and throw you some light 

584
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,320
ones that that do float on 
water. 

585
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,800
Yeah, so we have the escape, we 
have the evidence, the emac 

586
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,200
judge and the Sergeant. 
And yes, I'm going to work on, 

587
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,280
I've been working on a video. 
I'm going to do some more 

588
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,440
filming tomorrow, but I'm 
working on a video where it's 

589
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,200
going to show me throwing it. 
And then I'm going to recruit my

590
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,280
wife because she doesn't play 
disc golf. 

591
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,800
Her her throw it to show what 
it's like for someone that's 

592
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,280
just a brand newbie. 
What are you going to do if she 

593
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,760
out throws you? 
And when she, when she out 

594
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,800
throws me, what are you going to
do? 

595
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,880
I don't know. 
Not not show that video. 

596
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,800
Yeah. 
Keep that video, yeah. 

597
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,120
So if it never comes out, you'll
know why, yeah? 

598
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,600
So anyway, so pick up that with 
the drift plastic and did you, 

599
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,960
you mentioned the weights, these
are 1:20 to 1:00. 20 to 130 

600
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,160
gram, yeah. 
And I'm already working on 2 new

601
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,920
molds that I believe will fit 
this lineup really really good 

602
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,080
for next year. 
And I noticed when I would talk 

603
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,240
to stores, especially when I 
would visit stores, that's one 

604
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,080
of the things like the, I don't 
want to call them old school, 

605
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,800
but some of the people that have
been around for a while, they're

606
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,080
like, we need more lightweight 
disks. 

607
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,680
And that's what these are going 
to be great for. 

608
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,800
So yeah, exactly. 
All right. 

609
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,000
Well, that's all the time we 
have for the questions. 

610
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,120
Excuse me, but I wanted to talk 
to Eric about. 

611
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,160
We did have one that other 
question too. 

612
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,360
That's right. 
The question we're going to go 

613
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,120
back to that's. 
Part of the topic that is part 

614
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,720
of the topic. 
That you're about to drop for 

615
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,960
reminding me people. 
This is from Joshua, and this is

616
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,480
interesting that he asked us 
because this is a topic I wanted

617
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,520
to talk about. 
People often talk about making 

618
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,640
putting harder by making the 
basket smaller, but that would 

619
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,240
require replacing baskets. 
My idea is to alter the current 

620
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,320
distance between the band and 
the top of the cage. 

621
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,600
Just making the cage 4 to 6 
inches on the pole would 

622
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,920
accomplish the goal of making 
putting harder and only require 

623
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,800
a drill and a drill bit. 
Thoughts. 

624
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,560
Whoa. 
I don't know if it would require

625
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,960
just a drill in a drill bit. 
I've just, have you seen some of

626
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,280
those baskets that have been out
there for years that are just 

627
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,520
like corroded and like you're 
not getting that off of the 

628
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,760
drill bit. 
But I get the concept of it 

629
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,440
making it more shallow. 
I guess like your, your, your 

630
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,920
sweet spot is going to be a 
little bit more shallow rather 

631
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,760
than than shrinking. 
You know, I almost think you 

632
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,760
need to shrink the whole basket 
if you're going to shrink it. 

633
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,160
You know, the, the basket 
itself, 'cause I mean, the 

634
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:57,680
basket itself was made to catch,
like the size of it was, was 

635
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,720
almost made to catch, you know, 
ultimate Frisbees, like actual 

636
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,080
Frisbees are 86 molds, you know,
a little bit bigger in diameter.

637
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,200
So there's a lot more room. 
If you think about a putter 

638
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,200
coming in, there's a lot more 
room for error on that. 

639
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,640
But as I always say, when we're 
talking about baskets and, and 

640
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:21,160
spit outs and, and whatnot, we 
throw things at things. 

641
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:26,440
It's never going to be perfect. 
You can perfect it. 

642
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,080
Well, maybe like just decrease 
the, the spit outs if you have a

643
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,960
better basket, you know, but, 
but at the end of the day, 

644
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,880
there's, there's different 
baskets for different styles of 

645
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,280
putting too. 
Like the Mock X is, is made more

646
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,120
for hitting it hard 'cause if 
you have a soft putt, you're 

647
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,440
going to have more tendencies to
pop out as where some of the 

648
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,800
other baskets, they're a little 
better on those softer putts 

649
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,320
coming in. 
So I don't know it's, it goes 

650
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,160
both ways there. 
I would love to see some 

651
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,720
samples, I guess and try putting
on them or, or that. 

652
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,320
But you're right, it is going to
cost a lot of money to do that 

653
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,000
unless it's like the pro tour. 
You know, maybe, maybe just the 

654
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,640
pro tour needs it for them and 
not for everyday courses, 'cause

655
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,840
I would hate to put on these 
tiny little baskets on one of 

656
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,640
these like beginner friendly 
style courses that I'm putting 

657
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,040
in the ground, you know, 'cause 
you want it to be user friendly.

658
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,560
And I feel like making putting 
harder at that level makes no 

659
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,080
sense. 
But it could make sense at the 

660
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,720
professional level to make 
putting a little bit harder. 

661
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,120
I I don't know. 
I mean. 

662
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,000
People are afraid of change too 
though. 

663
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,640
They are afraid of change. 
But I mean, I know that people 

664
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,520
don't like to compare the two 
sports, but that's like saying, 

665
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,480
you know, that the for the, the,
the tour, the golf tour, should 

666
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,720
we make the the holes smaller 
for them and not us so that the 

667
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,680
amateur player can still enjoy 
it or the beginner golf player 

668
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,880
can still enjoy, you know what 
I'm saying? 

669
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,960
I need I need those foot golf 
holes on golf to make pus. 

670
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,640
No kidding. 
So yeah, I, I would, I say yes, 

671
00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,600
your solution, Joshua would make
seem easier than just replacing 

672
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,800
them all, but it still would be 
a massive undertaking to. 

673
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,760
But also, I mean, I think I 
think there's more to it too 

674
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,760
than just just shrinking it 
because then you're going to 

675
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,600
have all this. 
The chain is just going to be 

676
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,440
kind of like hanging, like 
laying down in the in the bottom

677
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,440
of the basket almost right. 
And that you'd have to almost 

678
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,000
cut links of the chain off to 
make the chain a little smaller 

679
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:20,520
too. 
I don't know. 

680
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,800
I don't know. 
I can't, I can't visualize. 

681
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,200
Yeah, what it would look like. 
So what I made me want to talk 

682
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,280
about this topic is USD GC. 
Now one of the big stories that 

683
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,720
seemed to be out there was the 
new baskets. 

684
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,800
And I'm not trying to dog on 
them or anything like that. 

685
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,280
I'm not. 
Down. 

686
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,640
Yeah, he is. 
He told me right before we 

687
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,840
recorded that, hey, I'm going 
to. 

688
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,520
Dog on these guys? 
No, I'm not because I know they 

689
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,440
were just trying something new 
and something different, but it 

690
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,480
just made me think about like, I
get it, people, people are 

691
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,280
always going to gripe or say 
something about a basket and not

692
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,840
every basket is going to be 
perfect. 

693
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,440
Things are going to happen 
because like you said, you're 

694
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,280
throwing something at something 
else, something it's not always 

695
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,240
going to land quite perfect, but
it it made me think about do we 

696
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,840
so a lot of people, another 
topic that comes up is like, do 

697
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,920
we need to make it harder for 
pros the the the pro tour for 

698
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,760
when they play so that it 
doesn't become boring? 

699
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,240
I mean, now we're they're even 
talking about how people don't 

700
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,960
like seeing the same players all
the time because they're always 

701
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,360
on video or always the same 
people on video. 

702
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,120
So. 
Sorry, they're good. 

703
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,360
I know. 
So I don't know if that's really

704
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,720
the problem is that do we need 
to make the baskets harder to 

705
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,560
putt on? 
Would that solve anything? 

706
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,040
I don't. 
I don't know that it would. 

707
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,800
I mean, no, here's the thing. 
Nobody wants to watch a bunch of

708
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,000
players just miss putts all day 
long either, you know what I 

709
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,360
mean? 
That's, well, it's yeah, it's 

710
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,920
it. 
It's disheartening. 

711
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,720
You don't want to watch that. 
You don't want to. 

712
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,920
Yeah. 
So I don't, I don't know. 

713
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,440
I don't really know what the 
answer is, but I think the Tour 

714
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,520
has done a pretty good job of of
making more challenging holes, 

715
00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,240
making the golf harder. 
USDGC is a great example of 

716
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,720
that. 
How they they continue. 

717
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,040
Like every time I go there, I 
feel like the OB gets tighter 

718
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,600
and tighter from my first year. 
I think it was, I want to say 

719
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:14,360
2003 was my first USDGC and it 
was wide open. 

720
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,360
You know, there was hardly any 
OB like you could there were 

721
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,679
people that went and played OB 
free tournaments, let alone 

722
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,159
rounds, you know what I mean? 
So, so I don't know, I feel like

723
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,360
courses are getting more 
challenging in, in that regard. 

724
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,560
But then I mean, it's a whole 
animal of, of woods versus open.

725
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,159
So I don't, I don't know that I 
really have the answers for, for

726
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:38,920
the basket issues, we'll say, 
right. 

727
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,080
And I, I think a lot of it is 
the spit outs you're seeing. 

728
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,840
They're not all spit outs 
either. 

729
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,840
You know, there's some that are 
high, low, left, right. 

730
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,679
It's just because it hits chains
does not mean that it should 

731
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,520
stick, right. 
You know, now, those ones that 

732
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,400
hit turn, cut all the way 
through or hit the pole and 

733
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,200
bounce back to you. 
Yeah. 

734
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,080
Yeah. 
But guess what? 

735
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,520
That happens. 
It's just part of our game. 

736
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,800
That's how I see it. 
It's just part of our game. 

737
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,560
And. 
I'm seeing that, you know, 

738
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,600
obviously if you're the person 
making that putt and you know 

739
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,920
that it counts and a lot, you 
know, a stroke could mean 

740
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,240
cashing or not cashing or how 
much cash you. 

741
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:16,720
Get or a win or a loss. 
And so I'm sure it doesn't feel 

742
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:20,080
good, but it but it does happen.
The other thought I had was, you

743
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,800
know, they said standardized 
baskets. 

744
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,960
You know, a lot of people want 
one basket and it's like, I 

745
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,240
don't think. 
We're too small of a sport for 

746
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,760
for the DGPT, the DGPT, they 
rely so much on those 

747
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,160
manufacture dollars and 
sponsorship and for them to be 

748
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,360
like, we're not going to use 
your basket anymore. 

749
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,000
We're not going to give you any 
money anymore. 

750
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,880
You know what I mean? 
Like, I don't know that that 

751
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,440
would work either unless they 
built their own basket. 

752
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,080
And then they're going to have 
to have that's a whole nother 

753
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,120
headache they're going to have 
to deal with is making sure 

754
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,160
their specs line up to every 
other course that's already out 

755
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,720
there to make sure their ground 
slaves are, you know, and then 

756
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,360
think about how many they're 
going to have to have when 

757
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,760
traveling because, you know, 
typically they're going to have 

758
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,920
two whole courses because of FPO
and MPO. 

759
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,400
And then you're going to have to
have a whole another set that 

760
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,720
goes to the next town to start 
setting up. 

761
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:13,680
So it's, there's, there's a lot 
more that goes into it than 

762
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,440
just, hey, standardized baskets.
Here's my thought too. 

763
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,720
And you mentioned you kind of 
talked about a little bit is 

764
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:23,160
that, you know, a lot of people 
don't like certain baskets, you 

765
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,600
know, they, they favor different
baskets. 

766
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,640
But to me, it it's part of the 
skill for the player to know, 

767
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,120
oh, those are those baskets. 
Now I know I have to putt 

768
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:35,680
harder. 
It's. 

769
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,520
No different than a golf green. 
Yeah, Golf Green or I was 

770
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:43,280
thinking even a racetrack like, 
you know, race car drivers, they

771
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:48,200
got to know certain tracks or or
certain ways, certain baskets 

772
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,600
you got to putt certain ways and
to me that's part of the skill 

773
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,640
it's. 
Part of the game, Yeah, totally.

774
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:54,960
I agree with that. 
All right. 

775
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,960
I, I just thought it was 
interesting. 

776
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,160
I, I saw, I didn't watch all of 
USDGC, but the little bit I 

777
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,360
watched and then of course kind 
of the coverage that people put 

778
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,320
out there, I know Baskets was 
the big deal. 

779
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,240
Yeah. 
So I mean, yeah, there's some 

780
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:09,520
spit outs. 
I saw some spit outs, but I 

781
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,840
don't know the thing about the 
the, about Innova using that 

782
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,200
basket at that event. 
I I don't know that I disagree 

783
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,240
with the decision, but I I did 
find it weird that a major 

784
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:25,720
championship is the time to test
it out. 

785
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,160
Well, surely they tested it 
before, but you're thinking they

786
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,960
should have tested it at a 
tournament with these top 

787
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,080
players before it was 'cause. 
I mean, I, I most of the 

788
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,720
players, that was the first time
seeing it was on those, you 

789
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:41,520
know, during practice rounds. 
It's such a big stage. 

790
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,320
It is a huge stage for that. 
But I mean, USD to C is 

791
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,360
notorious for for trying 
something, trying new rules. 

792
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,920
And I mean, that's why ratings 
don't count for that event, but 

793
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,240
because of the stroke and 
distance and those kind of 

794
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,480
things to make the course a 
little more challenging, which I

795
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,160
don't hate that for the ratings 
part of it, because at that 

796
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,840
level, ratings really don't 
matter. 

797
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,840
I mean, they do just to a 
certain degree, but they really 

798
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,040
don't. 
They really don't. 

799
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,400
That'll be a discussion for 
another episode. 

800
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,480
Ratings don't matter, just like 
flight numbers. 

801
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,840
All numbers no. 
Numbers matter. 

802
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,360
All right, so just a quick 
recap. 

803
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,080
We've got some slam squats the 
slammer pick that up. 

804
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,400
Those are on sale right now this
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805
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,720
Pick you up a hand eye supply, 
skeleton series, moonshine 

806
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,160
trespass, convict and Emac 
truth. 

807
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,160
The moonshine jury that's coming
out as well on the 16th, the 

808
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,280
moonshine heist and that that's 
available. 

809
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,360
And then coming up in a couple 
weeks is the Glimmer warrant. 

810
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,520
Wake up late for morning and 
something I don't remember and 

811
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,240
then drift plastic. 
And then a couple weeks we're 

812
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:50,320
going to have drift plastic and 
make sure you stay tuned for the

813
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,240
video out to learn more about 
drift plastic and to see how 

814
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:55,840
different skill levels throw it 
and to see if it's something 

815
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,280
maybe you want to pick up. 
I mean even if you just have one

816
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,680
water disc in your. 
Bag. 

817
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,080
Sure. 
Yeah, let's get the putter. 

818
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,080
The putter. 
The putter flies pretty much 

819
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,760
just like a normal putter. 
Yeah, it's easier to throw. 

820
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,000
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821
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,440
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822
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:09,760
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