Disc golf is definitely my passion.
Like if you were like, hey, who's Luke?
I play a lot of disc golf. I play a lot of hockey actually.
I play with Emerson Keith. He's my line mate here.
And so like I've always done a ton of sports.
And I think like disc golf is like that perfect combo of like
you're out hiking with purpose, you know, and playing a sport
like golf where there's a goal, there's something I'm going
towards. And I think that's like
something that I need in in life.
Hello everybody. Welcome to this episode of the
Disc Golf Answer Man. I'm Bobby, Cool Daddy, Slick
Breeze, and I have with me Mr. Luke Jenkins.
Now, just to kind of give some background of how he got on the
show as like I normally do, I'm looking through YouTube or
Instagram on different disc golf videos and I really gravitate to
people that are disc golf content creators just because I
love the space. It's the space that has allowed
me to create the life I enjoy today.
And so when I see other guys putting it out there, I'm like,
all right, let's see what this guy's all about.
And I loved what you had. The thing that drew me to you,
Luke, before we get into who you actually are, is what I saw the
used bins and I thought I thought, OK, and I I watched a
couple of your shorts and your reels and I was like, OK, this
is this is clever. I like this.
I like this angle. This is a really cool angle.
So before we get into how that came about, first kind of tell
us who you are. Who is Luke Jenkins?
Yeah, well, I am a person who gets like, I'm kind of like an
all or nothing kind of guy, all right?
For me, disc golf, I played in college and it was just more for
fun. Like probably like my senior
year, I went to Oklahoma State and very windy.
So it's actually not as enjoyable as you would think.
It's it's so like I kind of like got into disc golf, left it for
a while, went into like career mode, been in software for a
while, right? And then I was just kind of like
I was just walking down a Creek with my three-year old son at
the time, which his face is on one of the DD harps that's in my
bag, which I love about DD. You can get your own custom
images on there. We found a disc and I was like,
Oh my gosh, I forgot about disc golf.
And I just started playing again.
And so like for me, like it's, it's my passion.
Disc golf is definitely my passion.
Like if you were like, hey, who's Luke?
I play a lot of disc golf. I play a lot of hockey actually.
I play with Emerson Keith. He's my line mate here.
And so like I've always done a ton of sports.
So for me, I got to like 6 or 7 handicap and golf, right?
And it just became way too time consuming.
And I had two kids. And so it's like, hey, I got to
do something different. And I think like disc golf is
like that perfect combo of like you're out hiking with purpose,
you know, and playing a sport like golf where there's a goal,
there's something I'm going towards.
And I think that's like something that I need in in
life. Yeah, definitely.
I just bet before we did this, got on here for the show, I was
out filming a round and I kept thinking it's just great you're
outside. It's unusual weather for Kansas
right now, but it's nice and warm.
But I'm thinking I am outside throwing discs, having a good
old time, getting some steps in, get a little bit of a workout
in, but having a good time. And you're right there is like a
goal. It's like I want to score better
than I'd last time at a particular hole.
So I love that. So well that's really cool.
I like that. And Emerson Keith, I used to
work with Emerson Keith when he's with a lot just before.
So we've done a couple of videos and different things together.
So he's a good guy. Hope he's doing good.
Yeah, well, whenever, whenever you'd resound over Instagram, I
was heading to like a hockey in that night.
I was like Emerson, you know Bobby, He's like, yeah, of
course I know Bobby. So yeah, he was like, you got to
do it. He's like, definitely.
Cool. That's awesome dude.
OK, so tell me, how did you get into so you got into get disc
golf, You liked it, but what made you think I want to start
creating some videos or whatever in social media with disc golf?
OK, I saw Brody Smith, which Brody's one of the reasons why I
got back into disc golf was seeing him and Paul Macbeth and
like doing that whole journey. It was like, OK, that's funny.
Like not funny. It was cool to see his journey
back And I found that disc and I was like, cool, let me get back
into disc golf And they filmed around it like the closest
course to me, I'm in Frisco, TX at Dash's track and it was like
a birdie, birdie or bogey challenge.
And I was like, I want to try that.
That looked like fun and like I just did it for myself, which I
actually the I just make videos for myself.
I, I make videos that I think are interesting to me.
I think for anyone who's like watching this also wants to do
this, like if you're going to make a YouTube channel or you're
going to do something, make sure it's something you're passionate
about. Because like disc golf for me,
I, I, I got hooked and I started playing tournaments like right
away. So for, for the first, I would
say three years, I pretty much just played tournament,
tournament, tournament, like probably 140 something now.
And then I was like, I'm pretty decent at disc golf now, like
987 rated. And I think I'm good enough to
make videos now. And I think like with one of my
friends, Josh, like you've had J Millie on or there's so many
other super interesting story driven, creative like content
creators out there like Josh are like you don't have to be the
best touring pro like Simon or Eagle or AB or like whoever it
is, right, You don't have to be that you can make content if you
find it a niche like that. And so for me, like what you
said, the use been stuff. I think one of my best friends
Hayden, OK, Hayden Frederickson is he said something like discs
are the coolest part of disc golf.
So for me, I I have a whole rack of probably like 300 discs over
there. I got discs all over the place.
I think. I think discs are literally the
coolest part too. I can't claim that's my quote,
but it is so fun just for me to go out and like I'll throw like
the AQ line DD3 only round right.
And it's like that that's fun. I want to go see this Q line
technology. I want to see how this works.
And so for me, it's, it's pretty much just been, I just started
making videos for myself and then the views kept going up and
then I just started like, I don't never seen anyone do a
like a use bend video. Like going through the use
bends. I mean, like usually you'll see
people who do them for, I think I've seen like Germ and some
others do somewhere they go build a bag and everything, but
like they're kind of here or there and no one has like dove
into what to look for in the use bends.
And so that's something I tried to to focus on as well.
I love a couple. We're going to, OK, dive deep
into a couple things you said. I love the part where you said
discs are the coolest part about disc golf that I mean, I never
heard that phrase that way, but that makes so much sense.
I mean, when it comes to just watching the flight of the disc,
I love that part. I love filming it.
I love when I when I first started and I started learning
how to follow a disc. I love when I would, I was able
to zoom in and stay with the disc because it's just it's just
a cool thing to watch. But then when you got people
just fall in love with different plastics, you got the different
stamps. And so I definitely like that.
And then the you the the part of like you creating videos that
you like. That's what I tell people all
the time when they think, Oh, I'm not as good as J Millie.
I mean, that dude kills it when it comes to editing and
storytelling. But it's not that.
I don't think you should try to aspire to that.
But man, just make your videos, make something like you said
that you want to watch. And then the used bin part.
I almost feel like like you are part of my algorithm.
I'll just give you that much Luke right now.
Because when I'm when I'm when I'm thumbing through, when I'm
like when I'm goofing off, when I'm researching for trend ideas,
your used bin stuff comes up and it's I just want to watch it
because I'm like, OK, what, what, what is he going to find?
What gym is he going to find? What's he going to find?
Something rare, something I've seen before.
I think you tap into something where people, if they had all
the time in the world, they would go thumb through used bins
and you do it for them. I think that's fantastic.
What is do you have a few stories of like some really rare
find you've you've found? Yeah, I'm usually like if we
want to go with my most collectible fines, a first run
buzz. That was pretty awesome.
On Black Friday I found a four claw buzz in the used bins for
12 bucks, which is insane. So Replay Sports over here in
Dynamic Discs in Carrollton, those are the two shops that are
closest to me that I usually go to.
But Replay has like the largest use bin selection in America.
So like some people, there's a conspiracy sometimes that I'm
faking my videos, which is the I literally ran to my wife.
I was like, Amber, I'm not kidding.
You look at this comment, they think I'm staging this.
So it was, it was hilarious because I don't think people
understand how many people in DFW play disc golf, how many
people pull discs out of the water and they just go trade it
in, right? Or they have a massive
collection and you just find the craziest things.
And I think, I hope even why did I even start doing this?
Maybe it's like growing up, my family would watch like American
Pickers. Do you know what that is?
Oh yeah, so. You know, or like my algorithm,
I wasn't allowed to play Pokémon as a child.
OK, but I find the Pokémon collecting seemed fascinating,
right? Or seeing like somebody ripping
packs and like what are they going to find?
Or like literally gold, like people like a gold rush, right?
Or like some people are like make YouTube videos about them
finding gold. And I kind of, I'm like, let's
kind of the same thing is like people are watching to see what
am I going to find out of the used bins today.
So I always think it's fascinating.
I've kind of shifted a little bit more towards shorts for
these, which they get a ton of exposure and it's been really
fun. And then like, of course, I'm
sure you saw like the $10 to 1000 and then we went to $5000
challenge series. And so that was, I'll probably
do it again this year at some point where I just try to like,
hey, let's, let's go through the used bins.
Here's what to look for and and see what cool things we can
find. Yeah, the Pokémon that that was
some things I've seen where they literally, they're just like
ripped. They they found a card, then
they put it down, then they RIP another one.
They find something. I don't know what makes a
Pokémon card a good card, but they're like showing it.
I'm like, this is crazy. And then have you ever heard of
gosh, what's his name? He Pat pat something he used to
teach, he used to be like a social media guru where he
taught social media and out of whim he made a video of him
going to the store and buying a Pokémon pack.
And he did that. He opened it and he found some
good stuff and that video went through the roof and he thought,
and he's very business mind. He said, I'm going to start a
channel where that's all I do. Now he has like 2 million
subscribers. He's a stop doing the social
media guru thing and he just does the Pokémon trade card
thing. I think I know who you're
talking about. Pat Flynn.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure, yes. That is crazy.
So it is kind of it's very similar in the used bin for you
is people want to find that nice rare disc.
And I found this little niche and I, and that's something I
mentioned earlier, which is like, if you're going to make
content, find your niche, right? Make sure you're passionate
about something. But people love to buy discs
from videos if they like. So I'll put like use bin bags
together and go throw them. And I was like, well, I have so
many disks. I can't hold on to all of these
disks. I have people messaging me
constantly. I would make a used bin video
where at first I was just doing it for myself and collecting for
myself. But then everyone's like, Hey, I
want to buy this disk. I want to buy that disk.
And so like during that 10 to $5000 challenge, I was like, I
can't, this isn't sustainable. I can't sit here.
I got two kids. I can't be messaging people
constantly trying to, to get them these disks.
So I like opened up my own website in the middle of it,
which has been like a huge success for me, which has been a
lot of fun. And so now like I have like 200
to 300 people a day who are just sitting there on the website.
I look at the stats and they're just like waiting for me to post
a, a disc 'cause they're all just like snap it up right away.
So it's been a interesting journey.
I really struggled. I really struggled with feeling
guilty about selling a usement disk to somebody else that I
paid. Let's just say it's like how
first run felon, right? I got you can't see it.
I found a pretty cool first round of felon, you know, for 8
bucks brand new. And if I sold that for like 30
bucks, I'd feel bad. I, I don't think I, I don't get
the work money off viewers right.
Oh yeah. So that was like a real big
struggle for me. That took me a while.
But then people just, they want to pay, like to get those discs
because they're hard to find in the 1st place.
People like throwing collectible discs.
And I think I just said, I think that many rephrases.
Luke likes to throw collectible discs and so other people like,
oh, I want to try that too. And so like, it's so fun to hear
all the stories of people who got the disc and then like use
it in this tournament and won them a playoff and all this
stuff. So it's been it's been an
interesting journey so far through the use bins.
But I will say I started going to the use bins like probably
four years ago. I would just go to replay and
like I said, like I just love discs and I wanted to try every
disc. I think I've thrown every disc
for the most part in disc golf and there was one find and and
I'll pause and I'm talking a lot, but.
No, go for it. There was one fine that started
it all for me. OK, this disc is always going to
have a special place in my heart.
It's a, it's a razor claw one like the original razor claws.
I would just hit replay going to hit Alex Clark right next door.
And I figured I'd drop in there and this cool like claw stamp on
it. And I was like, I've never seen
a stamp like that. I was still getting into disc
golf. I bought it.
I think it was probably $10. And then somebody on the course
offered me like $50.00 for that disc.
I said no, I was like, I just got it, why would you do that?
That's crazy. And that was like a light bulb,
like, Oh my gosh, there's a collector scene.
I posted it on like eBay for 70 bucks and it sold instantly.
I was like, Oh my goodness gracious, this can pay for my
hobby. So that was also another
interesting aspect of that too, where I didn't expect it to turn
into that. But if I had my wife come in
here, she would tell you that everything I do turns into a
business. So it's it's a problem.
Reminds me that you. I'm sure you've heard of Gary
Vee. Gary, Gary Vaynerchuk reminds
you of some of his garage sale adventures he would go on and
finding rare stuff there. Now you do do.
I'm looking at your YouTube channel and you have other
playlists where? Tell me about this unnoticed
eBay lot. Yeah, I love.
OK, I have something beneath me here.
Say that. And then I don't know where I
just put it. But like, I'll find discs like
this. It's like an invo Leopard 3,
Drew Gibson. And I'll just like hit sort by
like the newest listed ones and you'll find some crazy deals for
like 10 bucks times. I think like you can become a
professional at anything, right? Like if you spend 2000 hours,
there's like that whole thing. Or is it?
Is it 2000 or 10,000? 10,000 hours, yeah.
I definitely have 10,000 hours in disc golf, but you, you know
what to look for. You know, you know the first run
stamp, right, that DD does you, you start to see those little
things. And so I think it was like there
was an AJ Destroyer in that lot. There's a couple of there's a 20
something disc and I think I'd have for like $32.
It might be that one. I've done a couple of those, but
it's always interesting to me to be like, hey, the lots like
people will have some crazy discs that they may not know
about and you can find these cool lots and it's, it's almost
like a treasure hunt because they don't know what they are
either. And then like there's some cool
Innova made like disc Mania in there.
There's some old stuff I found like a Missilin off of one that
was pretty cool. So it's.
Just missilin. Yeah, I think it's just kind of
like once you do it enough, you learn.
But man, I've had some flops for sure in the used bins thinking
something was worth something and it's definitely not, you
know? So what is the, the maybe you
don't want to say, but what's the, I guess what, what disc got
you the most as far as selling it?
What was the biggest, the biggest, the biggest margin
between what you bought and what you paid or?
What I've done a lot. What you bought and sold?
I've done a lot of like 10 to 100.
So like the first one Buzz I sold for 100, the four claw buzz
sold for like $100. But I've, I've been trying to
like figure out like a sustainable content schedule and
journey. And I was listening to the J
Millie episode earlier too. And I like it's something that
he said. It's like, you know, even with
at the time you'd be doing it for like 2 1/2 three years and
you're still kind of figuring your way through things.
And it's like, so for me now I have this like backup bag
series. So again, like I was telling you
that people really like buying discs and videos because
something that I was never a fan of, I would order discs online
all the time because I wanted to try everything and, and you get
the disc and it would be super flippy, right?
And you're like, that Destroyer is not supposed to fly like that
or a Raider shouldn't fly like that or a Felon shouldn't fly,
right? You know what I'm saying?
And it's like that was always a bummer, especially if you bought
a collectible disc you were going to throw or a nice disc
and it just, it was awful, right?
I almost never think discs are awful.
By the way, I Hatcher could tell you that I, I kind of am known
for loving every disc. I think there's one disc I
didn't like. I made a video about it and
that's the only one you know, but I think there's something
interesting there around. People like to see the discs,
they see them fly and then they want to buy them.
So I came up this backup bag series where and this is the fun
part for me. And I think there's like a
storytelling in there. So like Josh has helped me a lot
with like thinking about how to work on content creation, how to
tell a story. And so I was like, OK, instead
of doing like just use been bag after use been bag after use
been bag, let's like create one bag and let's like say, OK, so
here's the bag and it's I'm going to make a video every week
with that bag. And then if somebody wants to
buy it, it's there. Sometimes I'm going to put them
really high, you know, other times like I don't want that
disk anymore and I'll put in there for 10 bucks.
So it's kind of a fun journey where after the first episode,
it was like 14 of the 18 discs sold.
I had to rebuild completely the bag.
That's awesome. Yeah, it's been fun.
So then it's like, OK, now I have an excuse to go to the used
bins. There's way more purpose.
And again, I kind of mentioned that like, I like getting people
discs for good deals and what like if you could sell it for
$100, I don't like selling it for $100.
But then like, I was like, I don't want to sell this disc, so
I want to put it for $100 if somebody still bought the four
claw. And I was like, well, like a
proto, a prototype DD3, somebody bought that one.
I was like, Dang it, I wanted that disk.
I wanted to keep that disk. So let's say someone wanted to
get into going out and just checking out used bins.
Are there any like tips or tricks that you learned from all
your shopping of the used bins that yes, what do you got?
Hold on, let me see. OK, Well, at least at Replay,
they have a sticker on the back, all right?
And it tells you what date it was checked in is one of the
biggest indicators 'cause I am one of probably 30 people who go
to Replay on a weekly basis looking for discs, right?
Like there is the guys at Replay, they're like, you just
missed this and this and this and this, which is fine.
Like that's great, but if you check the date when it was
turned in and it's been there for longer than like 2 months,
it's probably not like a crazy collectible disk.
And the other thing I do is like AI has gotten so ridiculously
good nowadays. Like I mean, you pretty much
just go to Google and you take a photo of the disk and it's going
to come back with first run products for dynamic disks,
right? So then you just check, I know
this is the third tip real quick, but it's in an all pause.
If you go to eBay and you check the sold listings, sometimes
people put discs for like crazy amounts of money and that's not
realistic, right? Like you're not going to
probably buy A4 claw or sell A4 claw for $300.00.
But then you check the sold listings, a filter there, and
you can see what actually people are paying.
EBay is generally more expensive, so that's how I
typically gauge. Like what disk is valuable and
what's not. Gotcha.
Let me ask you, I just remembered back in, I think it
was 2010, I played a disc golf event in Pawhuska, OK And.
The prizes or you know, you put your money in for a raffle and
it was, I feel bad. I don't remember the guy's name,
but he was an old school disc golfer.
Anyway, the prizes he gave away from the raffle were a but from
his collection. And I have about four or five
discs that were like old Innova, some old Innova and some old
disc craft. Where do you go?
And I talked to some people about selling it, but they're,
they're talking telling me that like the markets not as good as
it used to be. Is that kind of what you're
seeing? It's winter time, that's it.
It's like a cyclical thing. So like usually like spring,
mostly summertime is the best time to sell discs.
So right now I've been stockpiling really valuable
discs for the back of bag series.
I have like literally an entire box full of gems here that I'm
since especially after that first episode when they almost
all sold, I was like, I'm never going to be able to replace all
those. So the winter time is the best
time to buy for sure. And then I think it'll go back
up a little bit. Disc golf, we're seeing a maybe
a maybe a 10 to 15% drop off on PDGA signups.
I don't know if you've been paying attention to that type of
stuff. Like obviously COVID was a
massive boom. It brought me in and tons of
people back into the sport. And so I think that's just dying
off a little bit. And you know, as disc golfers,
we've got way too many discs. You don't need 1000 discs, but I
would be lying if I didn't have 600 disks in my office right
now. So people are unloading
collections and they're not playing.
So they're thinking like, I probably don't need these and
they're looking for different homes for them.
Would you say Facebook is the best place or is there other
places to list them? Yeah.
I think that was actually your question.
And yes, yeah, definitely Facebook Marketplace.
It's sometimes it's tough to get into some of the some of the
ones, but like the disc golf marketplace is a good one.
The Disk Mania collectors, Innova collectors, I'm literally
a part of every single one. And that's how I learned also
what people are looking for, right?
Let's kind of, I'm going to switch gears on you for a little
bit and let's talk about the creative process, your creative
process. So how do you go about coming up
with the idea and then how do you turn that into the what's
your process and your steps to go from idea to you are out on
the course and you're hitting record?
Yeah, that's a great question because I don't know the answer
that sometimes. So basically, I have gone
through a lot of phases in disc golf, all right.
I've bagged just a single bag of every single manufacturer at
some point just to learn everything I could about every
disc. So for me, like I I have, if I
get out of the way, there's a stack of first run castoplast.
I just filmed the video for I I have a Nord I found in the used
bin and it was part of my backup back series.
I'm like, Nope, I'm keeping this one.
So I'm like, what else? I like this plastic.
And so then I just went on got those.
So that was like one thing I like to think of like questions.
So I think questions are a really good thing to make a
video off of. So like are expensive discs
better than stock discs? Or like one of my videos was
will ACE eagle survive one round because I have bits and pieces
of an eagle. Left.
I've seen several of those busted apart.
Yeah, so it's like that's an interesting thing.
So like, I wonder will it survive?
And I, I think I just document my journey.
So almost every time this might sound crazy, I've probably
played like outside of tournaments, like 4 rounds.
I didn't film this year. Wow.
So I film everything and some people ask me why don't I film
my normal tournament bag all the time.
Like, well, because I, this is just me as a disc golfer, I, I
literally will never have the same bag over and over again.
So like it's questions I also have like if I look through this
right here, I have a video list, you know, for 2026, which I
started writing down our expensive discs better.
You know, what do I wish I knew when I started playing disc
golf? That's a that's a good one.
I wanted to like, if I was trying to sell, I'm a software
salesperson. If I was trying to sell somebody
on disc golf who's never played disc golf, what would my sales
pitch be? And yeah, like, so there's a lot
of that where I think of like what's a question that I have
that I want to answer and I'm going to explore it through a
video. So I think they're going to be a
lot more like question based ones.
Yeah, do. You do, you tend to.
So once you have the question and you're like, OK, I have
this. Are you the kind of person that
scripts everything out and then that's what you follow or you
just kind of go on the whim when you're like, OK, I have an idea.
I kind of think what I'm going to do, I'm just going to go on
film. What do you think?
I'm curious, do you think, do you think I script them or do
you think I just go on film? I think I feel I don't know they
because the ones I've seen they feel very personable.
So I would almost say probably less script.
Yeah, I don't. I've never scripted a video.
I guess like there are some where it's like the disk media
mystery boxes for sure of like opening those and stuff like
there's a bit of planning that goes into them.
I think there's more planning with, well, actually my favorite
series I do, which is whoever wins the Pro Tour Championship,
whatever the event is, which I hope I can enter a couple this
year myself is like I built Paul Macbeth's bag.
I built Calvin's bag. And I think that's an
interesting thing because we watch in the bag videos are some
of the most entertaining pieces of content on YouTube.
One of my favorite things is the start of every season.
Or if somebody like Germ when he switched over to MVP just to see
like, Oh my gosh, what's he going to beg?
Like he used to be the Thunderbird guy.
So what's he going to throw? And he's like the tempo and the
hex. And so I think like it's
interesting for people to see, OK, well, like I see Calvin big
build his bag and then they see me say, I tried Calvin's bag and
I apparently it works. So that that is definitely
probably the best videos I've put out there.
And I'll definitely be doing that.
I did AB Paul, Gannon, Calvin, I think Colbert Dolan as well.
I learned a lot about DGA. So it's it's a way for me to
explore other discs that I've never thrown.
And I learned so much building Gannon's bag.
Absolutely. Just like.
No, you say you learn. What did?
What did you learn? Like he doesn't throw fairways.
Oh, OK, he doesn't. He's got like he basically has
this disc which is like a special blend FD 3 and that's
what he throws instead of that or it's a real beat end disc.
And like I have absolutely massive hands like if I have
gloves or XXL at least. And so my hand doesn't really
fit discs that are like small rimmed, like utters and fairways
aren't super comfortable. So I learned a little bit more
about like interesting, like you don't have to have three
putters, 3 mid ranges, 3 fairways and three distance
drivers. Like you just, you know, disc
golf is probably the most personal game that it or sport
I've ever played because there's 1000 discs to choose from and
there's like 50 different runs of those discs with different
plastic, with different stamps. Nobody's bags the same.
And that's what's so fun. And you can learn so, so much
about disc golf just through washing those in the bags and
why people bag those. Yeah, it's interesting you say
the people it's very personal personable because like when we
put out in the bag videos, I'll it'll I'll see comments where
people say what, no love for the suspect or something like that
because it's their favorite overstable mid or something like
that. It's like, well, jeez, just
happens to have another choice. It's not that the suspects bad.
It's not that you choosing the suspects bad but bad, but
because you don't see them mentioning it, you're like what?
No love for the fill in the blank?
So that's. That's interesting.
I think the one for me is I can't.
I just can't do the buzz really. I can't throw a buzz.
It doesn't fit my hand. I have to have like a rock type
of a disc with like a bead for some reason, and I think like
everyone's grip's so different too, Like I can like for any
putters or mids, I have to like keep it like that middle finger
out because it just like doesn't fit or I do something weird.
Brody came out with something hilarious, which is like this is
the wrong grip. Anything flat and any I you guys
try the split grip. It actually works really well.
But like that's actually a good point.
Try so much. That's the cool thing.
Just go out and try it. And I watch a YouTube video
about like, hey, I don't know if it was Jesse from Trash Panda or
somebody else who's like, I'm trying 5 different grips.
And then it worked for me because I have massive hands and
apparently that's OK for Luke. And I have definitely been put
down before about bagging discs and been like, why in the world
are you bagging that disc? It's an awful disc.
And I'm like, that's not cool. OK.
Like if you're that guy, you need to stop because like it's
not cool. Whenever you come up, you're
like, hey, I got this amazing disc.
I really, really like it. And then people like put you
down on it and say it's like, Hey, it's not a good disc.
Like I don't think that there are bad discs.
No, like maybe one or two. But for the most part, like when
people like the Berg is a very controversial disc too, right?
But that's my favorite disc because it's like the perfect
little touch shot, just like there's almost nothing like it
out there. But then people are like, I, I
see videos all the time about how bad the Berg is.
And I'm just like, you just guys, let us live our, our life.
And like, I am generally a very happy, positive person in life.
And like, if there's like a life motto for me, it's like, find
the things you love to do and make you happy and do more of
those things. And for me, it's trying discs,
it's making content, playing disc golf and.
That's it. Yeah.
It reminds me even of when flight numbers, like when I, I
know that sometimes I'll see when we put out videos and we
tell people the flight numbers are like, oh, that's just
another fill in the blank. I'm like, OK, yes, but no, it
could feel different. It might fit different in your
hand. You may like the feel of the rim
on it. It might fit your hand better
for whatever reason. So I just tell people, just try
it, go to your local store and feel it in your hand.
If you like to feel by it, try it, whatever.
So yeah, that's the same with with flight number.
So, OK, so back to the creative process.
So you, you don't really have much of A strip strip, if at
all, but you're out there filming, you're doing your
thing. Are you are editing it?
I'm assuming what kind of do you have any sort of editing process
that you're just like, do you just put one clip after the
other? So I'll do a rough cut 1st and
again I got a shout out to J Millie, good friend helps me out
a lot with like I was just like what do you use to edit?
And he gave me a couple tips and he probably doesn't think he
gave me much help but he did. But like I was just editing off
of a Mac with his iMovie for a while and then I got Davinci
Resolve which if you are going to make content, Davinci Resolve
is free. It is incredibly good for me.
I'll just like do the rough cut. So I just before this was
finishing the rough cut for this video right here for the
Casaplast round. And then I'll go in and I'll do
like the zoom in and out. So like learning that's it's
kind of hard. But when I see people who don't
zoom in on flights, like you got to got to learn how to use the
dynamic zoom or the keystrokes because it makes your videos way
better. I tried to do, you know, ace
trace the app that you can follow the disc.
It's so time consuming. It's not worth it, right.
So it's like, how do I get a decent video out there?
And so like rough cut, then I'll do the zoom insurance and then
I'll add the sound effects, which I love sound effects in my
videos. I I love them the nopes, the
there's just so many silly things I like doing in there
because I would want that in my video.
So I make it that way, right? And then I put some music behind
the scenes. Some people don't like the
music. I just like a chill vibe, like
we're not too serious, let's have fun and throw some cool
discs and let's learn something today that's like my process.
So it's yeah, rough cut, do the Zoom insurance, add the audio,
and then I watch it like you probably watch your video 10
times before you put it out there too, because it's like you
watch it full through. OK, now I got to do this.
Now you do this and like it, It definitely can take you like 10
to 20. If it's Josh, probably like 40
to 50 hours to edit a video. Yeah, I always tell people when
they ask me about it, I say audio is half the storytelling.
Yeah, people don't understand the importance of of using audio
to help tell your story and create create the mood.
Do you? Do you do it?
What about thumbnails? How particular are you about
thumbnails? How much do you put in for the
thumbnail? Probably like 3 minutes really.
Yeah, I use Canva and I just I use like I'll do like the
background remover, throw a shadow on there on the filter.
And then I, I mean like I, I've had so many different thumbnail
styles. It's actually hilarious as I
scroll through my channel and I don't know, I guess that's me.
I always trying different things and maybe I should have more
consistency there. I don't know.
But I mean, if you talk to Josh,
which obviously you'd have it's, you know, his, the thumbnail's
super important, which I didn't think the thumbnail was that
important. And I actually had a like a pink
to blue hue, right? It's like my whole thing, my
channel was cotton candy disc golf.
I'll tell you the story behind it if you care later.
But it's, you know, he was like, I think that's going to hurt you
long term. If you have that like pink to
blue, you can't see much of the background.
I was like, OK, fair enough. I changed it and then the view
started going up and I just don't really care about the view
counts either, which is something I hope people don't
get focused on if they do get into content creation because
it's hard. Like I was getting 100 views and
I was happy. I was like, Oh my gosh, 100
people watch my video. That is incredible.
That's so cool. It was a lot of my friends,
right, that we text about it, the funny things in the videos
and then like it. It takes a while to build an
audience for sure. It takes a while.
Yeah, you the thumbnail, something that I've always known
is important. That's always been something
that people, you know, the the media, social media gurus talk
about how important it is. But I tended, it's the last
thing I do, whereas some people, it's the first thing you do
really. I mean I've even heard Mr. Beast
where they literally when they come up with an idea, they make
the thumbnail first and then they proceed with making the
video idea. That would probably make my
thumbnails easier because what I have to do is I have to like
when I edit the video, I'm like, is this going to be a good
thumbnail? Is this going to be a good
thumbnail? Like I, that's definitely
something that I could probably take from this and try to maybe
do some pre planning on the thumbnails because I like I work
full time, right? I have a wife and two kids.
I'm a very involved parent, right?
We split her duties. She works, she's my wife's
absolutely amazing. And so like I can't just leave
her to have to deal with everything.
I'm sitting in here in the office editing.
That's not cool. So like for me, like it's, it's
got to be like quick, right? And like, I wish I did this full
time for sure, but it'll never probably be that way for me.
This is just like it's a passion.
I love being able to document this part of my life for sure.
I mean, that's good and it's got to be a passion because like you
mentioned earlier, you got to be you're, you got to do something.
You enjoy doing it because if you chase the views, sure, the
first, usually the first video is like you're, you're excited
about it. That's like you're, that's your
child. You just created something.
And if it does good, then you're like, OK, second one, I got a
follow up. It does pretty put it OK.
And the third one doesn't do great.
Well, guess what? You still got to put the work
in. So at least make it something
that you enjoy doing. Something I'm going to take from
this is I've been contemplating is that now that I'm back at
Dynamic Discs and and need to get more familiar with the
discs, I play disc golf a lot more.
Like I've been doing it almost just about every weekend when
the weather is nice. And I've been thinking, you know
what, I need to have a camera behind me, even if I'm with a
few buds, just put it on the tripod and if I get a good shot,
great. If I don't, no big deal, but at
least have the camera with me. So I think I want to do that
more often is take take the camera with me.
OK, so you've got to OK, so we talked thumbnail, create a
process, I'm assuming based on what we talked about you, is
there like a rhythm or cadence to how often you put out, what
day of the week you put out? Or is it kind of like when you
get it done, you're just going to push it out there?
Yeah, I took a little bit of time off like over the break for
sure with the kids at home, it was actually almost impossible
to try to edit. And we took a little vacation.
But like generally I try to put out like 2 to 3 videos like long
form videos a week then shorts I do every day now.
I actually my friend came over Katie just before this to get a
disc for me and it was like I was trying to show somebody your
your Instagram and and you got nothing on there or Facebook.
Like I know I don't, I don't really do that side because I
don't have enough time for that. But I do shorts now and like
they're getting 10,000 views a day because I think people are
like, yeah, like the first run felony has 13,000 views, which
is just a short. It's not crazy, right?
But I started putting shorts out there.
Like I found a whole Vibram collection, which actually
reminds me I still have to go film that that's in a box
beneath my feet where it's like people like to see the like
every morning at 8:00 I put out one short.
So I think I've scheduled out about a month's worth so far.
So now my process is I go to to replay or dynamic disc in
Carrollton and I'll go like I'll film basically like, OK, here's
the disc I found. I'll do the quick voice over.
I'll add the edits as soon as I get home so that I've got like
a, a backlog of, of shorts that will come out every day.
Nice I like this mornings. Was asking my wife how much my
two 2015 section firebirds cost and she said 5 and $10.00 so I'm
not going to tell her mom this but I'm just kidding she knows.
She knows how much they're paid. OK.
So you kind of alluded to it before.
So explain to me what cotton candy Disc golf What?
Where did cotton candy come from?
Well, I have a couple discs, so like, I'm a very competitive
person. I don't talk about it too much
or anything, but like, you know, I've obviously got like my two
kids, right? So I have a bunch of DD discs
with their faces on it. This is my HAR in the bag.
I absolutely love this disc. But for me, I take like,
remember I said I'm all or nothing.
I think I played like 40 something or 50 tournaments in
one year. That is every single weekend.
I played every single flex start.
I didn't play disc golf outside of tournaments.
I learned so much going from MA 3 to 880 all the way up to nine
80s now, but I had to like kind of step back and be like, is
this really where I'm going to spend my time, right?
Or if I got frustrated, I was frustrated.
I kind of hit a plateau at like 950 and I was like, I'm
frustrated and I was like, Luke, this literally this is not a
you're throwing plastic circles at metal.
If you're not having fun, like you need to re evaluate while
you play this. And so I just like the bag is
cotton candy because it reminds me of my kids when I'm out there
playing. I like cotton candy discs
because I like the color scheme. Like I got a little Nordic
phenom right there and like it just is like that subtle
reminder when I'm out there playing or I miss a putt or
something. It's like this is at the end of
the day, this should be fun and it's changed my like perspective
and I don't really talk about too much, but that's why it's
cotton candy is reminds me of my boy and girl.
That's cool. And I see like on your website,
you have a the sugar high. So it's kind of like a theme you
can kind of follow with the cotton candy, you know, the
sugar and all that. And then I thought you had
something else that was kind of along that.
Oh, the the stamp where the guy says I just want a little cotton
candy and he's chasing me. That's clever.
I thought it would be funny. It's kind of me.
It's me looking for cotton candy discs or like me looking for
Usman stuff like and then now like this.
The version 2 is sugar high, so he's he's got his cotton candy.
I got all of these in there. I like, I order like 160 discs
and like half of them sold in the first day, which was crazy,
which was crazy. So the websites been helpful,
but it's a lot of work. It's it's, it's you know,
managing the website, the uploading the discs, the content
creation. I actually don't know how I do
all of this myself. But I don't think I could give
control away. Like do you talk to many
creators who have editors and stuff?
No, everybody's pretty much they do their own thing.
Like thinking about personally myself, like I have a guy
Bennett who is working part time.
He used to work in the fulfilment the, the Amazon
fulfilment place, but now he works for us over here in media.
And like I want to give him a big project, but I love the
editing process so I almost don't want to give him the big
product. So.
But no, no, just about every content creator I've talked to,
they edit their own stuff and it's basically from idea to
story, scripting to editing, finding the music, making the
thumbnail, they do it all themselves.
I think it should be that way to be honest.
There's only going to be a couple creators who can do this
full time, not that many people who watch YouTube content.
Maybe like 2 to 300,000 I would guess if you look at like
coverage and stuff and yeah, or like what Joe Mez would pull in.
Also like if people are getting into content creation to make
like money off of it, probably not the right, probably not the
right idea to get into content creation.
Disc golf, that's for sure. Makeup, maybe some makeup or
something like that, yeah. Right.
Or Pokémon ripping. Pokémon cards.
So but I think it's on the rise. I mean, that was something I
noticed when I came back was there was a lot of young content
creators that and it, it's just, I thought it was awesome.
It it it gave me goosebumps because when I first started
there wasn't really, I mean, there was content out there for
disc golf, a lot of tutorials and stuff like that, but not a
lot of the fun stuff and the, and the just a normal human out
there playing disc golf just for the joy of it type stuff.
So when I saw other people using content like this on YouTube to
tell their story and it happens to have disc golf as the
background that that was exciting to me.
So tell me what's it, what's in it in for 2026?
What what big plans do you have as far as content creation and
and cotton candy disc golf? Sure.
I think for me it's it's probably diving back into the
backup bag series because that's that's the funnest part.
The use been stuff like I mean, it's super fun, but it gives me
a purpose. There's more of a story behind
it. And I think like the more you
get into content creation it, especially disc golf, it's like,
let me film a whole round, right?
It's hard to get away from like the shot by shot by shot right
and into like more of the storytelling.
So I'm trying to do more of that storytelling with that series.
So like the back of bag series, definitely the the pro, whoever
wins. That's like this is one of my
favorite parts. Like I get to go watch the pro
tour right on the Disc golf Network, and then I get to see
like, I'm like, who who's back on my building?
I think I like that. A lot of people were like, would
message me and like, I can't wait to see you want, you know,
put Paul Macbeth back together. I'm like, how are, how do you
even know who I am? I feel like the funniest part to
me is like, sometimes I'm just like, who in the world is
watching my videos? It's still surreal to me that
I'll get in. And again, it's like, it's not
that many views, but it's like, it's definitely humbling and
it's, it's super encouraging. And another advice is like,
respond to your comments. I think I've responded to every
single comment that anyone has ever commented on my channel
because you would never know how much of an influence comments
have on creators. I don't know if you feel this
way, but like they fuel you like and I am kind of surprised at
how little hate you get. I think I was probably the most
nervous about that when I was posting videos was like, are
people going to ridicule me? Are they going to make fun of me
and all this stuff? And like, no, they really didn't
so. No, for the most people,
they're, they, they want to root you on, right?
They want, they want, they like that you're doing something that
either they want to just watch or they want to do themselves.
I mean, I've been doing it since I was a nine.
So I've had a few haters. I mean, I can't remember what
year it was, but just one guy just had it out for me on at
least three or four videos. He told me I was the worst thing
that happened to Dynamic Disc. I was the worst.
Yeah, I was the worst thing that happened to disc golf.
Thankfully the other people came to, you know, said dude, what
are you talking about? Why are you being negative?
Disc golf isn't about negativities.
But yeah, but now sometimes I do have to watch myself in the
comments. I do have to watch as far as
reading too many contents, especially on Reddit.
I don't know why I get down a Reddit rabbit hole, but I do.
And that sometimes people do tend to kind of hide behind the
keyboard as far as giving their opinion, but that's OK.
Especially if you're like, disconnected on a Reddit thread
and like, they don't think people are going to see
something like that. Yeah.
And but you're also like starting to like you're the face
of dynamic disks to the brand manager, right?
So you're also like a not, not you're kind of a target.
Oh yeah, in a sense. Oh, yeah.
So that can't be easy to deal with.
It's all good, though. But then I just feed off the
positive energy, like you said, the the people that love
watching what I do. And I was the same way.
He's like, like I remember when we first started doing the, the
videos way back when and it was mostly Eric McCabe and our top
players. And then I would get in there
and I would throw every now and then and I was amazed at people
going, oh, I wanna see how it throws for Bobby because Bobby,
Bobby throws closer to the way I throw.
And I was like, what? And so, yeah, if you, if you're
just a regular thrower, you're not a pro, no big deal.
Just go out there and make that content.
Somebody will want to watch it. And even to your remark, as far
as thinking there aren't that many views, I mean, you've got
one that has 1001 that's 1.9, so basically 2000 views the way I
look at it. And I've heard it before and I
can't remember who I heard it from, but he said basically
think about it this way. Let's say you had an auditorium
and you rented it out and 2000, yeah, 2000 people showed up.
You'd be like, Oh my God, I'm getting ready to talk to 2000
people. This is amazing.
So you think about it in that aspect, dude, keep doing it.
Keep killing it and doing your thing.
Thanks man yeah, I I do think about that work wise.
I had to go present on the stage at Dreamforce my first year
working in software. It's a big conference in San
Francisco and I was absolutely terrified of public speaking.
And if you want to talk about like your basically like you
kind of get over your fears, right?
That was like a get over my fear moment.
And but I do also think about the whole like, you know, if
it's like 1900 people watching, I do think about the stadium.
I think about like what, how are there so many of you watching?
It's so confusing. But I think it's, it comes down
to just like be genuine, right? Like you can't fake like videos
you can't like people are going to see right through you if
you're not authentic. So I think that's incredibly
important when you're again, like we've talked about this a
couple times, but you know, make the stuff you love and my whole
thing do more of the things that make you happy in life for sure.
And that's that's disc golf for me.
I love it. I love it.
Well, thanks for hopping on the show, dude.
It was so great to get to know you a little bit more and more
about your story and something I've forgotten to do in the last
couple. But what I want to do is I want
to make this more of a dialogue at the end.
So if you have the, the basically what I say is you have
a question for me. Do you want to ask me something,
anything, and I will be as transparent as possible.
Interesting. All right, Well, what's in store
for DD going into 2026? OK, any big announcements or
anything? I don't know.
Just kidding. You can't, you can't spoil them
here. But like directionally, you guys
looking for another brand, another disk manufacturing
brand? Because that's my dream.
I'm just kidding. No for real though I will say
real quick, but my whole goal was to start my own disc golf
company, buy my own plastic injection molding machine and
everything. And I have met with so many
injection molders and tooling companies now and I am realizing
how insanely expensive it is and capital expensive is to start a
brand. And I just like respect for DD
and Innova and all those brands for sure for doing that.
Yeah, No, there's no plans to create a new brand or to buy a
new brand. I'm sure people, I'm sure the
venture capitalist haters are gonna be all up on this, but no,
there's no plans to do that really.
The big plan is to now that there's a lot of things that
have been put into place, a lot of things that have been settled
and taken care of. Now it's time to.
And even if you look at the disc golf industry as a whole, it
feels like there's like a way to put it is like, have we hit the
bottom as far as the decline from COVID?
Now a lot of people are like, stop complaining about COVID.
It's been five years. Well, if you look at other
industries, they're still feeling the ramifications of the
pandemic, the effect the pandemic had.
Because we work with like Academy and Dick's Sporting
Goods and all these big outdoor places.
They're still feeling the leveling out.
They're still trying to figure out, have we hit bottom as far
as certain categories of outdoor sports.
So I feel like for us, we've hit that and now it's time to get
back to just kind of rebuilding and rebuilding Dynamic Discs as
the brand that you just want to. We want to be the people that
like, if you want to go out and go play around at disc golf, we
would love to join you. We would love to get out on the
course and just play around with you and just have a good time
and enjoy disc golf for what it is.
If you want to be a pro, fantastic, we've got stuff for
you. If you just want to play on the
weekend and you don't even know that there's a disc golf pro
tour, you don't care that yours PDJ membership, we still want to
be out there playing with you. So we just want to hang with you
and play and have some fun at with disc golf.
So I have another question for you then.
Yeah. What?
I ask people this all the time, especially when they run me on
the course and they I'm like, hey, what's your favorite disc
in the bag? Like what's the disc you could
never live without? I think that's an interesting
question to hear from people. Wow, that's probably changed.
It should change, Bob. Yeah, it should.
You should like different disks and then here's your go to one.
Yeah. For a while the renegade was my
go to. Right now my go to.
Well God, I say right now cuz now.
So the treason, the treason, I'm really liking the treason as it
gets beat in it's just a for my arm speed.
It's a peat speed 10, but it has enough under stability to where
it'll get a little bit of a turn.
Not crazy and it'll definitely come back, but not hard.
So I really like that. But what I, I just played this
last weekend with a group of friends and I had that we did a,
a, a battle round where we've had mystery discs and this is a
disc that were coming out in 2026.
So I got it early so I can throw it and get used to it because
they sent it to for us to test it out and say, hey, we don't
like this. Can we change this?
It's been on my bag and I threw it this weekend again for
probably the third round. And I'm like this, this is
people are going to and it's a light disc.
It's 156 and it was still a little windy and it still held
up when I was like, really it for my arms, for my arm speed.
This disc is, and I know it sounds marketing talk, but this
disc is so money and I think a lot of people are going to love
it. I think that's going to be the
disc that I'm going to be grabbing the most when it comes
to as long as it's not windy because it's lightweight, the
one I'm going to be grabbing the most when it comes off the tee
pad. You say it was the treason.
Well, first it was treason, now it's this mystery disc.
OK, I was going to say I hadn't heard of it.
I don't. I don't know which one you're
talking. About I can't tell you the name
yet because you know, we want. We're not I, I'm about 99.9%
sure this is what we're going to go with for this one of the 2026
releases, but I'm super excited about it.
That is exciting. Well, I'll end with mine mines
my sons face on the harp. It is one of the funniest things
and like, seriously guys? Did he make that so?
He made that face? What?
Yeah, and then we just uploaded the image and then I put a
little die around it. I didn't really do the die very
well because I kind of messed up with the edge a little bit, but
it's literally like my favorite disc to throw.
What's the story on that face? Was he shocked at something or?
This is what my son looks like all the time.
He literally I if if I was going to describe him.
I can't wait to show him this. He's a velociraptor.
OK, I got this. One of him.
He was doing a handstand. He's actually supposed to be
like this. He's on a ballista pro on this.
Hilarious. And then my daughter, she's got
a dad's favorite here. So you know what, actually one
of my upcoming videos, she's she played disc golf me for the
first time and it was the cutest thing ever.
And I feel like the happiest moment, like I'll never force my
kids to play a sport, but if they want to do it, they can.
And Elena's apparently now my little sidekick, and at least I
can have Daniel in the course of me with this.
I still love it. I highly suggest if you're
watching this and you want to get somebody a present, get them
a custom disc like this because they literally, they're so cool.
And I don't think I've ever seen another brand do it.
No, I mean Latitude has deco die, but they don't do images
like that. They do their own images.
Yeah, So I haven't seen. So Christmas time, it's very
popular. We sell a lot of Dynamics discs
and it's just because we still get people to say I can put
anything, well, you can put just about anything.
Obviously there's a lot of copyright.
There's a lot of, you know, we can't, we kind of kind of steer,
steer away from anything. Kind of like super aggressive,
political. We got to kind of be careful.
But just about any image we can put on a disc, and I've seen
some pretty before when we first started doing it and we didn't
have any rules. Yeah, there was some
questionable discs that I was like, should we be putting that
on a disk? So I have.
Some hilarious ones I think are original.
I don't know, you came out with your own deco dies, right?
Like where? It's like there's a cat in space
with a hamburger and a monster. Truck.
Yeah, I have laser Kitty. Yeah, I find my son those
because he thinks they're so funny.
Yeah, those are great. Awesome.
OK. Well, again, Luke, thank you so
much for hopping on the show. I appreciate it.
Hopefully it won't be the last we hear from you.
Have you back on the show maybe in about four or five months to
see where you're at, see what you got working, working on as
far as your disc golf content. But again, I appreciate you
being on the show. Yeah, absolutely.
Bobby, thanks for having me. Take care, man.