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Disc golf is definitely my 
passion. 

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Like if you were like, hey, 
who's Luke? 

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I play a lot of disc golf. 
I play a lot of hockey actually.

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I play with Emerson Keith. 
He's my line mate here. 

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And so like I've always done a 
ton of sports. 

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And I think like disc golf is 
like that perfect combo of like 

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you're out hiking with purpose, 
you know, and playing a sport 

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like golf where there's a goal, 
there's something I'm going 

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towards. 
And I think that's like 

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something that I need in in 
life. 

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Hello everybody. 
Welcome to this episode of the 

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Disc Golf Answer Man. 
I'm Bobby, Cool Daddy, Slick 

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Breeze, and I have with me Mr. 
Luke Jenkins. 

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Now, just to kind of give some 
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show as like I normally do, I'm 
looking through YouTube or 

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Instagram on different disc golf
videos and I really gravitate to

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people that are disc golf 
content creators just because I 

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love the space. 
It's the space that has allowed 

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me to create the life I enjoy 
today. 

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And so when I see other guys 
putting it out there, I'm like, 

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all right, let's see what this 
guy's all about. 

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And I loved what you had. 
The thing that drew me to you, 

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Luke, before we get into who you
actually are, is what I saw the 

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used bins and I thought I 
thought, OK, and I I watched a 

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couple of your shorts and your 
reels and I was like, OK, this 

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is this is clever. 
I like this. 

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I like this angle. 
This is a really cool angle. 

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So before we get into how that 
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us who you are. 
Who is Luke Jenkins? 

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Yeah, well, I am a person who 
gets like, I'm kind of like an 

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all or nothing kind of guy, all 
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For me, disc golf, I played in 
college and it was just more for

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fun. 
Like probably like my senior 

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year, I went to Oklahoma State 
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So it's actually not as 
enjoyable as you would think. 

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It's it's so like I kind of like
got into disc golf, left it for 

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a while, went into like career 
mode, been in software for a 

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while, right? 
And then I was just kind of like

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I was just walking down a Creek 
with my three-year old son at 

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the time, which his face is on 
one of the DD harps that's in my

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bag, which I love about DD. 
You can get your own custom 

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images on there. 
We found a disc and I was like, 

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Oh my gosh, I forgot about disc 
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And I just started playing 
again. 

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And so like for me, like it's, 
it's my passion. 

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Disc golf is definitely my 
passion. 

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Like if you were like, hey, 
who's Luke? 

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I play a lot of disc golf. 
I play a lot of hockey actually.

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I play with Emerson Keith. 
He's my line mate here. 

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And so like I've always done a 
ton of sports. 

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So for me, I got to like 6 or 7 
handicap and golf, right? 

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And it just became way too time 
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And I had two kids. 
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do something different. 
And I think like disc golf is 

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like that perfect combo of like 
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you know, and playing a sport 
like golf where there's a goal, 

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there's something I'm going 
towards. 

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And I think that's like 
something that I need in in 

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life. 
Yeah, definitely. 

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I just bet before we did this, 
got on here for the show, I was 

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out filming a round and I kept 
thinking it's just great you're 

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outside. 
It's unusual weather for Kansas 

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right now, but it's nice and 
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But I'm thinking I am outside 
throwing discs, having a good 

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old time, getting some steps in,
get a little bit of a workout 

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in, but having a good time. 
And you're right there is like a

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goal. 
It's like I want to score better

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than I'd last time at a 
particular hole. 

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So I love that. 
So well that's really cool. 

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I like that. 
And Emerson Keith, I used to 

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work with Emerson Keith when 
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So we've done a couple of videos
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So he's a good guy. 
Hope he's doing good. 

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Yeah, well, whenever, whenever 
you'd resound over Instagram, I 

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was heading to like a hockey in 
that night. 

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I was like Emerson, you know 
Bobby, He's like, yeah, of 

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course I know Bobby. 
So yeah, he was like, you got to

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do it. 
He's like, definitely. 

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Cool. 
That's awesome dude. 

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OK, so tell me, how did you get 
into so you got into get disc 

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golf, You liked it, but what 
made you think I want to start 

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creating some videos or whatever
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OK, I saw Brody Smith, which 
Brody's one of the reasons why I

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got back into disc golf was 
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like doing that whole journey. 
It was like, OK, that's funny. 

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Like not funny. 
It was cool to see his journey 

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back And I found that disc and I
was like, cool, let me get back 

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into disc golf And they filmed 
around it like the closest 

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course to me, I'm in Frisco, TX 
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a birdie, birdie or bogey 
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And I was like, I want to try 
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That looked like fun and like I 
just did it for myself, which I 

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actually the I just make videos 
for myself. 

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I, I make videos that I think 
are interesting to me. 

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I think for anyone who's like 
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this, like if you're going to 
make a YouTube channel or you're

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going to do something, make sure
it's something you're passionate

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about. 
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I, I, I got hooked and I started
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away. 
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say three years, I pretty much 
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tournament, tournament, like 
probably 140 something now. 

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And then I was like, I'm pretty 
decent at disc golf now, like 

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987 rated. 
And I think I'm good enough to 

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make videos now. 
And I think like with one of my 

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friends, Josh, like you've had J
Millie on or there's so many 

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other super interesting story 
driven, creative like content 

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creators out there like Josh are
like you don't have to be the 

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best touring pro like Simon or 
Eagle or AB or like whoever it 

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is, right, You don't have to be 
that you can make content if you

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find it a niche like that. 
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said, the use been stuff. 
I think one of my best friends 

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Hayden, OK, Hayden Frederickson 
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are the coolest part of disc 
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So for me, I I have a whole rack
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there. 
I got discs all over the place. 

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I think. 
I think discs are literally the 

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coolest part too. 
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but it is so fun just for me to 
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the AQ line DD3 only round 
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And it's like that that's fun. 
I want to go see this Q line 

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technology. 
I want to see how this works. 

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And so for me, it's, it's pretty
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making videos for myself and 
then the views kept going up and

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then I just started like, I 
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like a use bend video. 
Like going through the use 

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bends. 
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people who do them for, I think 
I've seen like Germ and some 

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others do somewhere they go 
build a bag and everything, but 

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like they're kind of here or 
there and no one has like dove 

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into what to look for in the use
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I love a couple. 
We're going to, OK, dive deep 

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into a couple things you said. 
I love the part where you said 

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discs are the coolest part about
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heard that phrase that way, but 
that makes so much sense. 

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I mean, when it comes to just 
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I love that part. 
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I love when I when I first 
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how to follow a disc. 
I love when I would, I was able 

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to zoom in and stay with the 
disc because it's just it's just

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a cool thing to watch. 
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just fall in love with different
plastics, you got the different 

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stamps. 
And so I definitely like that. 

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And then the you the the part of
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you like. 
That's what I tell people all 

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the time when they think, Oh, 
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I mean, that dude kills it when 
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storytelling. 
But it's not that. 

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I don't think you should try to 
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But man, just make your videos, 
make something like you said 

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that you want to watch. 
And then the used bin part. 

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I almost feel like like you are 
part of my algorithm. 

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I'll just give you that much 
Luke right now. 

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Because when I'm when I'm when 
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like when I'm goofing off, when 
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your used bin stuff comes up and
it's I just want to watch it 

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because I'm like, OK, what, 
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What gym is he going to find? 
What's he going to find? 

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Something rare, something I've 
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I think you tap into something 
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the time in the world, they 
would go thumb through used bins

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and you do it for them. 
I think that's fantastic. 

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What is do you have a few 
stories of like some really rare

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find you've you've found? 
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want to go with my most 
collectible fines, a first run 

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buzz. 
That was pretty awesome. 

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On Black Friday I found a four 
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12 bucks, which is insane. 
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Dynamic Discs in Carrollton, 
those are the two shops that are

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closest to me that I usually go 
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But Replay has like the largest 
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So like some people, there's a 
conspiracy sometimes that I'm 

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faking my videos, which is the I
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I was like, Amber, I'm not 
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You look at this comment, they 
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So it was, it was hilarious 
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understand how many people in 
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people pull discs out of the 
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in, right? 
Or they have a massive 

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collection and you just find the
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And I think, I hope even why did
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Maybe it's like growing up, my 
family would watch like American

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Pickers. 
Do you know what that is? 

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Oh yeah, so. 
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I wasn't allowed to play Pokémon
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OK, but I find the Pokémon 
collecting seemed fascinating, 

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right? 
Or seeing like somebody ripping 

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packs and like what are they 
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Or like literally gold, like 
people like a gold rush, right? 

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Or like some people are like 
make YouTube videos about them 

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finding gold. 
And I kind of, I'm like, let's 

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kind of the same thing is like 
people are watching to see what 

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am I going to find out of the 
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So I always think it's 
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I've kind of shifted a little 
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these, which they get a ton of 
exposure and it's been really 

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fun. 
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sure you saw like the $10 to 
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challenge series. 
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do it again this year at some 
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hey, let's, let's go through the
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Here's what to look for and and 
see what cool things we can 

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find. 
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some things I've seen where they
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ripped. 
They they found a card, then 

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they put it down, then they RIP 
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They find something. 
I don't know what makes a 

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Pokémon card a good card, but 
they're like showing it. 

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I'm like, this is crazy. 
And then have you ever heard of 

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gosh, what's his name? 
He Pat pat something he used to 

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teach, he used to be like a 
social media guru where he 

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taught social media and out of 
whim he made a video of him 

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going to the store and buying a 
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And he did that. 
He opened it and he found some 

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good stuff and that video went 
through the roof and he thought,

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and he's very business mind. 
He said, I'm going to start a 

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channel where that's all I do. 
Now he has like 2 million 

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subscribers. 
He's a stop doing the social 

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media guru thing and he just 
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thing. 
I think I know who you're 

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talking about. 
Pat Flynn. 

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure, yes. 
That is crazy. 

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So it is kind of it's very 
similar in the used bin for you 

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is people want to find that nice
rare disc. 

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And I found this little niche 
and I, and that's something I 

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mentioned earlier, which is 
like, if you're going to make 

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content, find your niche, right?
Make sure you're passionate 

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about something. 
But people love to buy discs 

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from videos if they like. 
So I'll put like use bin bags 

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together and go throw them. 
And I was like, well, I have so 

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many disks. 
I can't hold on to all of these 

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disks. 
I have people messaging me 

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constantly. 
I would make a used bin video 

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where at first I was just doing 
it for myself and collecting for

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myself. 
But then everyone's like, Hey, I

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want to buy this disk. 
I want to buy that disk. 

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And so like during that 10 to 
$5000 challenge, I was like, I 

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can't, this isn't sustainable. 
I can't sit here. 

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I got two kids. 
I can't be messaging people 

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constantly trying to, to get 
them these disks. 

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So I like opened up my own 
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which has been like a huge 
success for me, which has been a

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lot of fun. 
And so now like I have like 200 

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to 300 people a day who are just
sitting there on the website. 

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I look at the stats and they're 
just like waiting for me to post

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a, a disc 'cause they're all 
just like snap it up right away.

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So it's been a interesting 
journey. 

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I really struggled. 
I really struggled with feeling 

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guilty about selling a usement 
disk to somebody else that I 

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paid. 
Let's just say it's like how 

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first run felon, right? 
I got you can't see it. 

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I found a pretty cool first 
round of felon, you know, for 8 

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bucks brand new. 
And if I sold that for like 30 

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bucks, I'd feel bad. 
I, I don't think I, I don't get 

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the work money off viewers 
right. 

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Oh yeah. 
So that was like a real big 

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struggle for me. 
That took me a while. 

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But then people just, they want 
to pay, like to get those discs 

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because they're hard to find in 
the 1st place. 

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People like throwing collectible
discs. 

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And I think I just said, I think
that many rephrases. 

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Luke likes to throw collectible 
discs and so other people like, 

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oh, I want to try that too. 
And so like, it's so fun to hear

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all the stories of people who 
got the disc and then like use 

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it in this tournament and won 
them a playoff and all this 

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stuff. 
So it's been it's been an 

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interesting journey so far 
through the use bins. 

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But I will say I started going 
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four years ago. 
I would just go to replay and 

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like I said, like I just love 
discs and I wanted to try every 

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disc. 
I think I've thrown every disc 

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for the most part in disc golf 
and there was one find and and 

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I'll pause and I'm talking a 
lot, but. 

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No, go for it. 
There was one fine that started 

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it all for me. 
OK, this disc is always going to

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have a special place in my 
heart. 

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It's a, it's a razor claw one 
like the original razor claws. 

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I would just hit replay going to
hit Alex Clark right next door. 

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And I figured I'd drop in there 
and this cool like claw stamp on

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it. 
And I was like, I've never seen 

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a stamp like that. 
I was still getting into disc 

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golf. 
I bought it. 

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I think it was probably $10. 
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offered me like $50.00 for that 
disc. 

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I said no, I was like, I just 
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That's crazy. 
And that was like a light bulb, 

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like, Oh my gosh, there's a 
collector scene. 

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I posted it on like eBay for 70 
bucks and it sold instantly. 

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I was like, Oh my goodness 
gracious, this can pay for my 

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hobby. 
So that was also another 

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interesting aspect of that too, 
where I didn't expect it to turn

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into that. 
But if I had my wife come in 

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here, she would tell you that 
everything I do turns into a 

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business. 
So it's it's a problem. 

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Reminds me that you. 
I'm sure you've heard of Gary 

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Vee. 
Gary, Gary Vaynerchuk reminds 

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you of some of his garage sale 
adventures he would go on and 

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finding rare stuff there. 
Now you do do. 

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I'm looking at your YouTube 
channel and you have other 

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playlists where? 
Tell me about this unnoticed 

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eBay lot. 
Yeah, I love. 

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OK, I have something beneath me 
here. 

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Say that. 
And then I don't know where I 

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just put it. 
But like, I'll find discs like 

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this. 
It's like an invo Leopard 3, 

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Drew Gibson. 
And I'll just like hit sort by 

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like the newest listed ones and 
you'll find some crazy deals for

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like 10 bucks times. 
I think like you can become a 

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professional at anything, right?
Like if you spend 2000 hours, 

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there's like that whole thing. 
Or is it? 

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Is it 2000 or 10,000? 
10,000 hours, yeah. 

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I definitely have 10,000 hours 
in disc golf, but you, you know 

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what to look for. 
You know, you know the first run

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stamp, right, that DD does you, 
you start to see those little 

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things. 
And so I think it was like there

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was an AJ Destroyer in that lot.
There's a couple of there's a 20

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something disc and I think I'd 
have for like $32. 

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It might be that one. 
I've done a couple of those, but

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it's always interesting to me to
be like, hey, the lots like 

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people will have some crazy 
discs that they may not know 

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about and you can find these 
cool lots and it's, it's almost 

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like a treasure hunt because 
they don't know what they are 

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either. 
And then like there's some cool 

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Innova made like disc Mania in 
there. 

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There's some old stuff I found 
like a Missilin off of one that 

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was pretty cool. 
So it's. 

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Just missilin. 
Yeah, I think it's just kind of 

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like once you do it enough, you 
learn. 

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But man, I've had some flops for
sure in the used bins thinking 

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something was worth something 
and it's definitely not, you 

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know? 
So what is the, the maybe you 

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don't want to say, but what's 
the, I guess what, what disc got

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you the most as far as selling 
it? 

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What was the biggest, the 
biggest, the biggest margin 

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between what you bought and what
you paid or? 

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What I've done a lot. 
What you bought and sold? 

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I've done a lot of like 10 to 
100. 

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So like the first one Buzz I 
sold for 100, the four claw buzz

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sold for like $100. 
But I've, I've been trying to 

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like figure out like a 
sustainable content schedule and

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journey. 
And I was listening to the J 

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Millie episode earlier too. 
And I like it's something that 

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he said. 
It's like, you know, even with 

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at the time you'd be doing it 
for like 2 1/2 three years and 

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you're still kind of figuring 
your way through things. 

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And it's like, so for me now I 
have this like backup bag 

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series. 
So again, like I was telling you

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that people really like buying 
discs and videos because 

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something that I was never a fan
of, I would order discs online 

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all the time because I wanted to
try everything and, and you get 

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the disc and it would be super 
flippy, right? 

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And you're like, that Destroyer 
is not supposed to fly like that

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or a Raider shouldn't fly like 
that or a Felon shouldn't fly, 

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right? 
You know what I'm saying? 

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And it's like that was always a 
bummer, especially if you bought

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a collectible disc you were 
going to throw or a nice disc 

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and it just, it was awful, 
right? 

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I almost never think discs are 
awful. 

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By the way, I Hatcher could tell
you that I, I kind of am known 

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for loving every disc. 
I think there's one disc I 

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didn't like. 
I made a video about it and 

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that's the only one you know, 
but I think there's something 

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interesting there around. 
People like to see the discs, 

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they see them fly and then they 
want to buy them. 

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So I came up this backup bag 
series where and this is the fun

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part for me. 
And I think there's like a 

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storytelling in there. 
So like Josh has helped me a lot

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with like thinking about how to 
work on content creation, how to

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tell a story. 
And so I was like, OK, instead 

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of doing like just use been bag 
after use been bag after use 

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been bag, let's like create one 
bag and let's like say, OK, so 

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here's the bag and it's I'm 
going to make a video every week

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with that bag. 
And then if somebody wants to 

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buy it, it's there. 
Sometimes I'm going to put them 

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really high, you know, other 
times like I don't want that 

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disk anymore and I'll put in 
there for 10 bucks. 

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So it's kind of a fun journey 
where after the first episode, 

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it was like 14 of the 18 discs 
sold. 

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I had to rebuild completely the 
bag. 

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That's awesome. 
Yeah, it's been fun. 

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So then it's like, OK, now I 
have an excuse to go to the used

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bins. 
There's way more purpose. 

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And again, I kind of mentioned 
that like, I like getting people

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discs for good deals and what 
like if you could sell it for 

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$100, I don't like selling it 
for $100. 

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But then like, I was like, I 
don't want to sell this disc, so

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I want to put it for $100 if 
somebody still bought the four 

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claw. 
And I was like, well, like a 

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proto, a prototype DD3, somebody
bought that one. 

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I was like, Dang it, I wanted 
that disk. 

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I wanted to keep that disk. 
So let's say someone wanted to 

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get into going out and just 
checking out used bins. 

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Are there any like tips or 
tricks that you learned from all

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your shopping of the used bins 
that yes, what do you got? 

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Hold on, let me see. 
OK, Well, at least at Replay, 

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they have a sticker on the back,
all right? 

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And it tells you what date it 
was checked in is one of the 

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biggest indicators 'cause I am 
one of probably 30 people who go

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to Replay on a weekly basis 
looking for discs, right? 

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Like there is the guys at 
Replay, they're like, you just 

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missed this and this and this 
and this, which is fine. 

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Like that's great, but if you 
check the date when it was 

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turned in and it's been there 
for longer than like 2 months, 

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it's probably not like a crazy 
collectible disk. 

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And the other thing I do is like
AI has gotten so ridiculously 

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good nowadays. 
Like I mean, you pretty much 

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just go to Google and you take a
photo of the disk and it's going

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to come back with first run 
products for dynamic disks, 

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right? 
So then you just check, I know 

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this is the third tip real 
quick, but it's in an all pause.

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If you go to eBay and you check 
the sold listings, sometimes 

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people put discs for like crazy 
amounts of money and that's not 

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realistic, right? 
Like you're not going to 

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probably buy A4 claw or sell A4 
claw for $300.00. 

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But then you check the sold 
listings, a filter there, and 

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you can see what actually people
are paying. 

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EBay is generally more 
expensive, so that's how I 

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typically gauge. 
Like what disk is valuable and 

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what's not. 
Gotcha. 

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Let me ask you, I just 
remembered back in, I think it 

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was 2010, I played a disc golf 
event in Pawhuska, OK And. 

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The prizes or you know, you put 
your money in for a raffle and 

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it was, I feel bad. 
I don't remember the guy's name,

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but he was an old school disc 
golfer. 

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Anyway, the prizes he gave away 
from the raffle were a but from 

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his collection. 
And I have about four or five 

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discs that were like old Innova,
some old Innova and some old 

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disc craft. 
Where do you go? 

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And I talked to some people 
about selling it, but they're, 

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they're talking telling me that 
like the markets not as good as 

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it used to be. 
Is that kind of what you're 

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seeing? 
It's winter time, that's it. 

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It's like a cyclical thing. 
So like usually like spring, 

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mostly summertime is the best 
time to sell discs. 

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So right now I've been 
stockpiling really valuable 

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discs for the back of bag 
series. 

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I have like literally an entire 
box full of gems here that I'm 

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since especially after that 
first episode when they almost 

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all sold, I was like, I'm never 
going to be able to replace all 

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those. 
So the winter time is the best 

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time to buy for sure. 
And then I think it'll go back 

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up a little bit. 
Disc golf, we're seeing a maybe 

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a maybe a 10 to 15% drop off on 
PDGA signups. 

445
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,600
I don't know if you've been 
paying attention to that type of

446
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,000
stuff. 
Like obviously COVID was a 

447
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,360
massive boom. 
It brought me in and tons of 

448
00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:24,080
people back into the sport. 
And so I think that's just dying

449
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,400
off a little bit. 
And you know, as disc golfers, 

450
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,000
we've got way too many discs. 
You don't need 1000 discs, but I

451
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,720
would be lying if I didn't have 
600 disks in my office right 

452
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,160
now. 
So people are unloading 

453
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,960
collections and they're not 
playing. 

454
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,120
So they're thinking like, I 
probably don't need these and 

455
00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:43,640
they're looking for different 
homes for them. 

456
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,520
Would you say Facebook is the 
best place or is there other 

457
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,000
places to list them? 
Yeah. 

458
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,520
I think that was actually your 
question. 

459
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,760
And yes, yeah, definitely 
Facebook Marketplace. 

460
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,520
It's sometimes it's tough to get
into some of the some of the 

461
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,880
ones, but like the disc golf 
marketplace is a good one. 

462
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,760
The Disk Mania collectors, 
Innova collectors, I'm literally

463
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,680
a part of every single one. 
And that's how I learned also 

464
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,800
what people are looking for, 
right? 

465
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,840
Let's kind of, I'm going to 
switch gears on you for a little

466
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,400
bit and let's talk about the 
creative process, your creative 

467
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,920
process. 
So how do you go about coming up

468
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,720
with the idea and then how do 
you turn that into the what's 

469
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,680
your process and your steps to 
go from idea to you are out on 

470
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,160
the course and you're hitting 
record? 

471
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,480
Yeah, that's a great question 
because I don't know the answer 

472
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,640
that sometimes. 
So basically, I have gone 

473
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,200
through a lot of phases in disc 
golf, all right. 

474
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:44,200
I've bagged just a single bag of
every single manufacturer at 

475
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,760
some point just to learn 
everything I could about every 

476
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,280
disc. 
So for me, like I I have, if I 

477
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,680
get out of the way, there's a 
stack of first run castoplast. 

478
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,720
I just filmed the video for I I 
have a Nord I found in the used 

479
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,640
bin and it was part of my backup
back series. 

480
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:01,800
I'm like, Nope, I'm keeping this
one. 

481
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,560
So I'm like, what else? 
I like this plastic. 

482
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,400
And so then I just went on got 
those. 

483
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,080
So that was like one thing I 
like to think of like questions.

484
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,040
So I think questions are a 
really good thing to make a 

485
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,000
video off of. 
So like are expensive discs 

486
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,680
better than stock discs? 
Or like one of my videos was 

487
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:25,560
will ACE eagle survive one round
because I have bits and pieces 

488
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,440
of an eagle. 
Left. 

489
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,320
I've seen several of those 
busted apart. 

490
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,320
Yeah, so it's like that's an 
interesting thing. 

491
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,200
So like, I wonder will it 
survive? 

492
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,120
And I, I think I just document 
my journey. 

493
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,240
So almost every time this might 
sound crazy, I've probably 

494
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,600
played like outside of 
tournaments, like 4 rounds. 

495
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,200
I didn't film this year. 
Wow. 

496
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,640
So I film everything and some 
people ask me why don't I film 

497
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,200
my normal tournament bag all the
time. 

498
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,760
Like, well, because I, this is 
just me as a disc golfer, I, I 

499
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,440
literally will never have the 
same bag over and over again. 

500
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,760
So like it's questions I also 
have like if I look through this

501
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,680
right here, I have a video list,
you know, for 2026, which I 

502
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,600
started writing down our 
expensive discs better. 

503
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,480
You know, what do I wish I knew 
when I started playing disc 

504
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,880
golf? 
That's a that's a good one. 

505
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,960
I wanted to like, if I was 
trying to sell, I'm a software 

506
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,520
salesperson. 
If I was trying to sell somebody

507
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,920
on disc golf who's never played 
disc golf, what would my sales 

508
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,480
pitch be? 
And yeah, like, so there's a lot

509
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,320
of that where I think of like 
what's a question that I have 

510
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,080
that I want to answer and I'm 
going to explore it through a 

511
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,080
video. 
So I think they're going to be a

512
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,160
lot more like question based 
ones. 

513
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,360
Yeah, do. 
You do, you tend to. 

514
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,120
So once you have the question 
and you're like, OK, I have 

515
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:42,120
this. 
Are you the kind of person that 

516
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,240
scripts everything out and then 
that's what you follow or you 

517
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,600
just kind of go on the whim when
you're like, OK, I have an idea.

518
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,800
I kind of think what I'm going 
to do, I'm just going to go on 

519
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,000
film. 
What do you think? 

520
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,720
I'm curious, do you think, do 
you think I script them or do 

521
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,320
you think I just go on film? 
I think I feel I don't know they

522
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,600
because the ones I've seen they 
feel very personable. 

523
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,840
So I would almost say probably 
less script. 

524
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,720
Yeah, I don't. 
I've never scripted a video. 

525
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,360
I guess like there are some 
where it's like the disk media 

526
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:15,600
mystery boxes for sure of like 
opening those and stuff like 

527
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,560
there's a bit of planning that 
goes into them. 

528
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:21,320
I think there's more planning 
with, well, actually my favorite

529
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,040
series I do, which is whoever 
wins the Pro Tour Championship, 

530
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,320
whatever the event is, which I 
hope I can enter a couple this 

531
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,760
year myself is like I built Paul
Macbeth's bag. 

532
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,040
I built Calvin's bag. 
And I think that's an 

533
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,040
interesting thing because we 
watch in the bag videos are some

534
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,440
of the most entertaining pieces 
of content on YouTube. 

535
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,640
One of my favorite things is the
start of every season. 

536
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,240
Or if somebody like Germ when he
switched over to MVP just to see

537
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,520
like, Oh my gosh, what's he 
going to beg? 

538
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,000
Like he used to be the 
Thunderbird guy. 

539
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,640
So what's he going to throw? 
And he's like the tempo and the 

540
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,360
hex. 
And so I think like it's 

541
00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:01,360
interesting for people to see, 
OK, well, like I see Calvin big 

542
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,600
build his bag and then they see 
me say, I tried Calvin's bag and

543
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,160
I apparently it works. 
So that that is definitely 

544
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,240
probably the best videos I've 
put out there. 

545
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,880
And I'll definitely be doing 
that. 

546
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,000
I did AB Paul, Gannon, Calvin, I
think Colbert Dolan as well. 

547
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,840
I learned a lot about DGA. 
So it's it's a way for me to 

548
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,800
explore other discs that I've 
never thrown. 

549
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,320
And I learned so much building 
Gannon's bag. 

550
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,280
Absolutely. 
Just like. 

551
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,000
No, you say you learn. 
What did? 

552
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,760
What did you learn? 
Like he doesn't throw fairways. 

553
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,760
Oh, OK, he doesn't. 
He's got like he basically has 

554
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,200
this disc which is like a 
special blend FD 3 and that's 

555
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,800
what he throws instead of that 
or it's a real beat end disc. 

556
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,280
And like I have absolutely 
massive hands like if I have 

557
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,960
gloves or XXL at least. 
And so my hand doesn't really 

558
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,760
fit discs that are like small 
rimmed, like utters and fairways

559
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,960
aren't super comfortable. 
So I learned a little bit more 

560
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,720
about like interesting, like you
don't have to have three 

561
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,200
putters, 3 mid ranges, 3 
fairways and three distance 

562
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,760
drivers. 
Like you just, you know, disc 

563
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,760
golf is probably the most 
personal game that it or sport 

564
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,200
I've ever played because there's
1000 discs to choose from and 

565
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,400
there's like 50 different runs 
of those discs with different 

566
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,080
plastic, with different stamps. 
Nobody's bags the same. 

567
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,240
And that's what's so fun. 
And you can learn so, so much 

568
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,160
about disc golf just through 
washing those in the bags and 

569
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,240
why people bag those. 
Yeah, it's interesting you say 

570
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,040
the people it's very personal 
personable because like when we 

571
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,480
put out in the bag videos, I'll 
it'll I'll see comments where 

572
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,640
people say what, no love for the
suspect or something like that 

573
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,080
because it's their favorite 
overstable mid or something like

574
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,120
that. 
It's like, well, jeez, just 

575
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:48,320
happens to have another choice. 
It's not that the suspects bad. 

576
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,160
It's not that you choosing the 
suspects bad but bad, but 

577
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,360
because you don't see them 
mentioning it, you're like what?

578
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,200
No love for the fill in the 
blank? 

579
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,760
So that's. 
That's interesting. 

580
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,680
I think the one for me is I 
can't. 

581
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,240
I just can't do the buzz really.
I can't throw a buzz. 

582
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,960
It doesn't fit my hand. 
I have to have like a rock type 

583
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,960
of a disc with like a bead for 
some reason, and I think like 

584
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,520
everyone's grip's so different 
too, Like I can like for any 

585
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,320
putters or mids, I have to like 
keep it like that middle finger 

586
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,200
out because it just like doesn't
fit or I do something weird. 

587
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,240
Brody came out with something 
hilarious, which is like this is

588
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,240
the wrong grip. 
Anything flat and any I you guys

589
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,120
try the split grip. 
It actually works really well. 

590
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:28,840
But like that's actually a good 
point. 

591
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,480
Try so much. 
That's the cool thing. 

592
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,320
Just go out and try it. 
And I watch a YouTube video 

593
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,560
about like, hey, I don't know if
it was Jesse from Trash Panda or

594
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,960
somebody else who's like, I'm 
trying 5 different grips. 

595
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,280
And then it worked for me 
because I have massive hands and

596
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,400
apparently that's OK for Luke. 
And I have definitely been put 

597
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,640
down before about bagging discs 
and been like, why in the world 

598
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,440
are you bagging that disc? 
It's an awful disc. 

599
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,920
And I'm like, that's not cool. 
OK. 

600
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,080
Like if you're that guy, you 
need to stop because like it's 

601
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,400
not cool. 
Whenever you come up, you're 

602
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,000
like, hey, I got this amazing 
disc. 

603
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,360
I really, really like it. 
And then people like put you 

604
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,960
down on it and say it's like, 
Hey, it's not a good disc. 

605
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,200
Like I don't think that there 
are bad discs. 

606
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,400
No, like maybe one or two. 
But for the most part, like when

607
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,840
people like the Berg is a very 
controversial disc too, right? 

608
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,920
But that's my favorite disc 
because it's like the perfect 

609
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,000
little touch shot, just like 
there's almost nothing like it 

610
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,480
out there. 
But then people are like, I, I 

611
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,600
see videos all the time about 
how bad the Berg is. 

612
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,200
And I'm just like, you just 
guys, let us live our, our life.

613
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,920
And like, I am generally a very 
happy, positive person in life. 

614
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,720
And like, if there's like a life
motto for me, it's like, find 

615
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,400
the things you love to do and 
make you happy and do more of 

616
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,720
those things. 
And for me, it's trying discs, 

617
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,960
it's making content, playing 
disc golf and. 

618
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,760
That's it. 
Yeah. 

619
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,800
It reminds me even of when 
flight numbers, like when I, I 

620
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,040
know that sometimes I'll see 
when we put out videos and we 

621
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,200
tell people the flight numbers 
are like, oh, that's just 

622
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,000
another fill in the blank. 
I'm like, OK, yes, but no, it 

623
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,040
could feel different. 
It might fit different in your 

624
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,720
hand. 
You may like the feel of the rim

625
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,600
on it. 
It might fit your hand better 

626
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,720
for whatever reason. 
So I just tell people, just try 

627
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,800
it, go to your local store and 
feel it in your hand. 

628
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,600
If you like to feel by it, try 
it, whatever. 

629
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,880
So yeah, that's the same with 
with flight number. 

630
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,720
So, OK, so back to the creative 
process. 

631
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,360
So you, you don't really have 
much of A strip strip, if at 

632
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,760
all, but you're out there 
filming, you're doing your 

633
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,520
thing. 
Are you are editing it? 

634
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,960
I'm assuming what kind of do you
have any sort of editing process

635
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,120
that you're just like, do you 
just put one clip after the 

636
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,560
other? 
So I'll do a rough cut 1st and 

637
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,960
again I got a shout out to J 
Millie, good friend helps me out

638
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,240
a lot with like I was just like 
what do you use to edit? 

639
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,640
And he gave me a couple tips and
he probably doesn't think he 

640
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,880
gave me much help but he did. 
But like I was just editing off 

641
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,920
of a Mac with his iMovie for a 
while and then I got Davinci 

642
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,120
Resolve which if you are going 
to make content, Davinci Resolve

643
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,120
is free. 
It is incredibly good for me. 

644
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,880
I'll just like do the rough cut.
So I just before this was 

645
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,760
finishing the rough cut for this
video right here for the 

646
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Casaplast round. 
And then I'll go in and I'll do 

647
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,720
like the zoom in and out. 
So like learning that's it's 

648
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,360
kind of hard. 
But when I see people who don't 

649
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,440
zoom in on flights, like you got
to got to learn how to use the 

650
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,720
dynamic zoom or the keystrokes 
because it makes your videos way

651
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,040
better. 
I tried to do, you know, ace 

652
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,200
trace the app that you can 
follow the disc. 

653
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,880
It's so time consuming. 
It's not worth it, right. 

654
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,560
So it's like, how do I get a 
decent video out there? 

655
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,360
And so like rough cut, then I'll
do the zoom insurance and then 

656
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,360
I'll add the sound effects, 
which I love sound effects in my

657
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,760
videos. 
I I love them the nopes, the 

658
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,000
there's just so many silly 
things I like doing in there 

659
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,960
because I would want that in my 
video. 

660
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,320
So I make it that way, right? 
And then I put some music behind

661
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,560
the scenes. 
Some people don't like the 

662
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,720
music. 
I just like a chill vibe, like 

663
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,760
we're not too serious, let's 
have fun and throw some cool 

664
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,160
discs and let's learn something 
today that's like my process. 

665
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,680
So it's yeah, rough cut, do the 
Zoom insurance, add the audio, 

666
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,120
and then I watch it like you 
probably watch your video 10 

667
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,720
times before you put it out 
there too, because it's like you

668
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,200
watch it full through. 
OK, now I got to do this. 

669
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,760
Now you do this and like it, It 
definitely can take you like 10 

670
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,880
to 20. 
If it's Josh, probably like 40 

671
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,600
to 50 hours to edit a video. 
Yeah, I always tell people when 

672
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,200
they ask me about it, I say 
audio is half the storytelling. 

673
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,080
Yeah, people don't understand 
the importance of of using audio

674
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,960
to help tell your story and 
create create the mood. 

675
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,520
Do you? 
Do you do it? 

676
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,400
What about thumbnails? 
How particular are you about 

677
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,640
thumbnails? 
How much do you put in for the 

678
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,240
thumbnail? 
Probably like 3 minutes really. 

679
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,960
Yeah, I use Canva and I just I 
use like I'll do like the 

680
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,800
background remover, throw a 
shadow on there on the filter. 

681
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,760
And then I, I mean like I, I've 
had so many different thumbnail 

682
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,200
styles. 
It's actually hilarious as I 

683
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,080
scroll through my channel and I 
don't know, I guess that's me. 

684
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,400
I always trying different things
and maybe I should have more 

685
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,800
consistency there. 
I don't know. 

686
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,080
I don't know. 
But I mean, if you talk to Josh,

687
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,760
which obviously you'd have it's,
you know, his, the thumbnail's 

688
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,800
super important, which I didn't 
think the thumbnail was that 

689
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,480
important. 
And I actually had a like a pink

690
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,120
to blue hue, right? 
It's like my whole thing, my 

691
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,600
channel was cotton candy disc 
golf. 

692
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,960
I'll tell you the story behind 
it if you care later. 

693
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,200
But it's, you know, he was like,
I think that's going to hurt you

694
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,560
long term. 
If you have that like pink to 

695
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,920
blue, you can't see much of the 
background. 

696
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,800
I was like, OK, fair enough. 
I changed it and then the view 

697
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,720
started going up and I just 
don't really care about the view

698
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,080
counts either, which is 
something I hope people don't 

699
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,920
get focused on if they do get 
into content creation because 

700
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,760
it's hard. 
Like I was getting 100 views and

701
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,160
I was happy. 
I was like, Oh my gosh, 100 

702
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,360
people watch my video. 
That is incredible. 

703
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,560
That's so cool. 
It was a lot of my friends, 

704
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,200
right, that we text about it, 
the funny things in the videos 

705
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,520
and then like it. 
It takes a while to build an 

706
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,560
audience for sure. 
It takes a while. 

707
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,560
Yeah, you the thumbnail, 
something that I've always known

708
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,040
is important. 
That's always been something 

709
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,720
that people, you know, the the 
media, social media gurus talk 

710
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,240
about how important it is. 
But I tended, it's the last 

711
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,000
thing I do, whereas some people,
it's the first thing you do 

712
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,080
really. 
I mean I've even heard Mr. Beast

713
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,360
where they literally when they 
come up with an idea, they make 

714
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,719
the thumbnail first and then 
they proceed with making the 

715
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,800
video idea. 
That would probably make my 

716
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,920
thumbnails easier because what I
have to do is I have to like 

717
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,120
when I edit the video, I'm like,
is this going to be a good 

718
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,320
thumbnail? 
Is this going to be a good 

719
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,480
thumbnail? 
Like I, that's definitely 

720
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,159
something that I could probably 
take from this and try to maybe 

721
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,600
do some pre planning on the 
thumbnails because I like I work

722
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,600
full time, right? 
I have a wife and two kids. 

723
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,560
I'm a very involved parent, 
right? 

724
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,120
We split her duties. 
She works, she's my wife's 

725
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,239
absolutely amazing. 
And so like I can't just leave 

726
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,840
her to have to deal with 
everything. 

727
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,320
I'm sitting in here in the 
office editing. 

728
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,000
That's not cool. 
So like for me, like it's, it's 

729
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,920
got to be like quick, right? 
And like, I wish I did this full

730
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,320
time for sure, but it'll never 
probably be that way for me. 

731
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,320
This is just like it's a 
passion. 

732
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,640
I love being able to document 
this part of my life for sure. 

733
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,680
I mean, that's good and it's got
to be a passion because like you

734
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,120
mentioned earlier, you got to be
you're, you got to do something.

735
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,320
You enjoy doing it because if 
you chase the views, sure, the 

736
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,120
first, usually the first video 
is like you're, you're excited 

737
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,560
about it. 
That's like you're, that's your 

738
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,800
child. 
You just created something. 

739
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,160
And if it does good, then you're
like, OK, second one, I got a 

740
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,360
follow up. 
It does pretty put it OK. 

741
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,200
And the third one doesn't do 
great. 

742
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,760
Well, guess what? 
You still got to put the work 

743
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,360
in. 
So at least make it something 

744
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,240
that you enjoy doing. 
Something I'm going to take from

745
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:37,400
this is I've been contemplating 
is that now that I'm back at 

746
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,240
Dynamic Discs and and need to 
get more familiar with the 

747
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:42,720
discs, I play disc golf a lot 
more. 

748
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:45,680
Like I've been doing it almost 
just about every weekend when 

749
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,760
the weather is nice. 
And I've been thinking, you know

750
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,440
what, I need to have a camera 
behind me, even if I'm with a 

751
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,480
few buds, just put it on the 
tripod and if I get a good shot,

752
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,600
great. 
If I don't, no big deal, but at 

753
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,480
least have the camera with me. 
So I think I want to do that 

754
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,720
more often is take take the 
camera with me. 

755
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,080
OK, so you've got to OK, so we 
talked thumbnail, create a 

756
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,800
process, I'm assuming based on 
what we talked about you, is 

757
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,400
there like a rhythm or cadence 
to how often you put out, what 

758
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,480
day of the week you put out? 
Or is it kind of like when you 

759
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,000
get it done, you're just going 
to push it out there? 

760
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,680
Yeah, I took a little bit of 
time off like over the break for

761
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,360
sure with the kids at home, it 
was actually almost impossible 

762
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,320
to try to edit. 
And we took a little vacation. 

763
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,840
But like generally I try to put 
out like 2 to 3 videos like long

764
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,120
form videos a week then shorts I
do every day now. 

765
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,800
I actually my friend came over 
Katie just before this to get a 

766
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,640
disc for me and it was like I 
was trying to show somebody your

767
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,640
your Instagram and and you got 
nothing on there or Facebook. 

768
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,960
Like I know I don't, I don't 
really do that side because I 

769
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,760
don't have enough time for that.
But I do shorts now and like 

770
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,760
they're getting 10,000 views a 
day because I think people are 

771
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,200
like, yeah, like the first run 
felony has 13,000 views, which 

772
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,840
is just a short. 
It's not crazy, right? 

773
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,880
But I started putting shorts out
there. 

774
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,240
Like I found a whole Vibram 
collection, which actually 

775
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:07,080
reminds me I still have to go 
film that that's in a box 

776
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,720
beneath my feet where it's like 
people like to see the like 

777
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,360
every morning at 8:00 I put out 
one short. 

778
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,840
So I think I've scheduled out 
about a month's worth so far. 

779
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,640
So now my process is I go to to 
replay or dynamic disc in 

780
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,080
Carrollton and I'll go like I'll
film basically like, OK, here's 

781
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,080
the disc I found. 
I'll do the quick voice over. 

782
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,000
I'll add the edits as soon as I 
get home so that I've got like 

783
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,480
a, a backlog of, of shorts that 
will come out every day. 

784
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,400
Nice I like this mornings. 
Was asking my wife how much my 

785
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,480
two 2015 section firebirds cost 
and she said 5 and $10.00 so I'm

786
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,720
not going to tell her mom this 
but I'm just kidding she knows. 

787
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,200
She knows how much they're paid.
OK. 

788
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,800
So you kind of alluded to it 
before. 

789
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,840
So explain to me what cotton 
candy Disc golf What? 

790
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,240
Where did cotton candy come 
from? 

791
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,720
Well, I have a couple discs, so 
like, I'm a very competitive 

792
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:03,000
person. 
I don't talk about it too much 

793
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,040
or anything, but like, you know,
I've obviously got like my two 

794
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,160
kids, right? 
So I have a bunch of DD discs 

795
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,040
with their faces on it. 
This is my HAR in the bag. 

796
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:15,440
I absolutely love this disc. 
But for me, I take like, 

797
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:16,840
remember I said I'm all or 
nothing. 

798
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,800
I think I played like 40 
something or 50 tournaments in 

799
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,760
one year. 
That is every single weekend. 

800
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,080
I played every single flex 
start. 

801
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,480
I didn't play disc golf outside 
of tournaments. 

802
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,160
I learned so much going from MA 
3 to 880 all the way up to nine 

803
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:40,200
80s now, but I had to like kind 
of step back and be like, is 

804
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,840
this really where I'm going to 
spend my time, right? 

805
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,680
Or if I got frustrated, I was 
frustrated. 

806
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,080
I kind of hit a plateau at like 
950 and I was like, I'm 

807
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,840
frustrated and I was like, Luke,
this literally this is not a 

808
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,840
you're throwing plastic circles 
at metal. 

809
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,160
If you're not having fun, like 
you need to re evaluate while 

810
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,120
you play this. 
And so I just like the bag is 

811
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,960
cotton candy because it reminds 
me of my kids when I'm out there

812
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,080
playing. 
I like cotton candy discs 

813
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,560
because I like the color scheme.
Like I got a little Nordic 

814
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,840
phenom right there and like it 
just is like that subtle 

815
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,720
reminder when I'm out there 
playing or I miss a putt or 

816
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:16,560
something. 
It's like this is at the end of 

817
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,640
the day, this should be fun and 
it's changed my like perspective

818
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,960
and I don't really talk about 
too much, but that's why it's 

819
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,240
cotton candy is reminds me of my
boy and girl. 

820
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,120
That's cool. 
And I see like on your website, 

821
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,400
you have a the sugar high. 
So it's kind of like a theme you

822
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,480
can kind of follow with the 
cotton candy, you know, the 

823
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,000
sugar and all that. 
And then I thought you had 

824
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,600
something else that was kind of 
along that. 

825
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,240
Oh, the the stamp where the guy 
says I just want a little cotton

826
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,880
candy and he's chasing me. 
That's clever. 

827
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,840
I thought it would be funny. 
It's kind of me. 

828
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,880
It's me looking for cotton candy
discs or like me looking for 

829
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,360
Usman stuff like and then now 
like this. 

830
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,880
The version 2 is sugar high, so 
he's he's got his cotton candy. 

831
00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:00,800
I got all of these in there. 
I like, I order like 160 discs 

832
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,200
and like half of them sold in 
the first day, which was crazy, 

833
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,480
which was crazy. 
So the websites been helpful, 

834
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:08,880
but it's a lot of work. 
It's it's, it's you know, 

835
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,400
managing the website, the 
uploading the discs, the content

836
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,680
creation. 
I actually don't know how I do 

837
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,840
all of this myself. 
But I don't think I could give 

838
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,760
control away. 
Like do you talk to many 

839
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,720
creators who have editors and 
stuff? 

840
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,760
No, everybody's pretty much they
do their own thing. 

841
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,920
Like thinking about personally 
myself, like I have a guy 

842
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,120
Bennett who is working part 
time. 

843
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,440
He used to work in the 
fulfilment the, the Amazon 

844
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,080
fulfilment place, but now he 
works for us over here in media.

845
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,520
And like I want to give him a 
big project, but I love the 

846
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,800
editing process so I almost 
don't want to give him the big 

847
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,480
product. 
So. 

848
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,080
But no, no, just about every 
content creator I've talked to, 

849
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,560
they edit their own stuff and 
it's basically from idea to 

850
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:03,760
story, scripting to editing, 
finding the music, making the 

851
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,400
thumbnail, they do it all 
themselves. 

852
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,000
I think it should be that way to
be honest. 

853
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,520
There's only going to be a 
couple creators who can do this 

854
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:15,040
full time, not that many people 
who watch YouTube content. 

855
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,840
Maybe like 2 to 300,000 I would 
guess if you look at like 

856
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,000
coverage and stuff and yeah, or 
like what Joe Mez would pull in.

857
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,360
Also like if people are getting 
into content creation to make 

858
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,040
like money off of it, probably 
not the right, probably not the 

859
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,920
right idea to get into content 
creation. 

860
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,600
Disc golf, that's for sure. 
Makeup, maybe some makeup or 

861
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,880
something like that, yeah. 
Right. 

862
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,120
Or Pokémon ripping. 
Pokémon cards. 

863
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,160
So but I think it's on the rise.
I mean, that was something I 

864
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,400
noticed when I came back was 
there was a lot of young content

865
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,200
creators that and it, it's just,
I thought it was awesome. 

866
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,800
It it it gave me goosebumps 
because when I first started 

867
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,440
there wasn't really, I mean, 
there was content out there for 

868
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,680
disc golf, a lot of tutorials 
and stuff like that, but not a 

869
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,640
lot of the fun stuff and the, 
and the just a normal human out 

870
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,040
there playing disc golf just for
the joy of it type stuff. 

871
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,280
So when I saw other people using
content like this on YouTube to 

872
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,680
tell their story and it happens 
to have disc golf as the 

873
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,480
background that that was 
exciting to me. 

874
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,000
So tell me what's it, what's in 
it in for 2026? 

875
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,080
What what big plans do you have 
as far as content creation and 

876
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,000
and cotton candy disc golf? 
Sure. 

877
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:26,160
I think for me it's it's 
probably diving back into the 

878
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,920
backup bag series because that's
that's the funnest part. 

879
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,760
The use been stuff like I mean, 
it's super fun, but it gives me 

880
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,080
a purpose. 
There's more of a story behind 

881
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,080
it. 
And I think like the more you 

882
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,200
get into content creation it, 
especially disc golf, it's like,

883
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,120
let me film a whole round, 
right? 

884
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,600
It's hard to get away from like 
the shot by shot by shot right 

885
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,520
and into like more of the 
storytelling. 

886
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,400
So I'm trying to do more of that
storytelling with that series. 

887
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:57,480
So like the back of bag series, 
definitely the the pro, whoever 

888
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,160
wins. 
That's like this is one of my 

889
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,280
favorite parts. 
Like I get to go watch the pro 

890
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,600
tour right on the Disc golf 
Network, and then I get to see 

891
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,680
like, I'm like, who who's back 
on my building? 

892
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,880
I think I like that. 
A lot of people were like, would

893
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,080
message me and like, I can't 
wait to see you want, you know, 

894
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,440
put Paul Macbeth back together. 
I'm like, how are, how do you 

895
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,880
even know who I am? 
I feel like the funniest part to

896
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,920
me is like, sometimes I'm just 
like, who in the world is 

897
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,800
watching my videos? 
It's still surreal to me that 

898
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,840
I'll get in. 
And again, it's like, it's not 

899
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,920
that many views, but it's like, 
it's definitely humbling and 

900
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,200
it's, it's super encouraging. 
And another advice is like, 

901
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,800
respond to your comments. 
I think I've responded to every 

902
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,760
single comment that anyone has 
ever commented on my channel 

903
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:48,280
because you would never know how
much of an influence comments 

904
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,560
have on creators. 
I don't know if you feel this 

905
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,280
way, but like they fuel you like
and I am kind of surprised at 

906
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,680
how little hate you get. 
I think I was probably the most 

907
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,680
nervous about that when I was 
posting videos was like, are 

908
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,800
people going to ridicule me? 
Are they going to make fun of me

909
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,920
and all this stuff? 
And like, no, they really didn't

910
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:09,880
so. 
No, for the most people, 

911
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,840
they're, they, they want to root
you on, right? 

912
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,120
They want, they want, they like 
that you're doing something that

913
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,240
either they want to just watch 
or they want to do themselves. 

914
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:21,200
I mean, I've been doing it since
I was a nine. 

915
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,280
So I've had a few haters. 
I mean, I can't remember what 

916
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,360
year it was, but just one guy 
just had it out for me on at 

917
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,440
least three or four videos. 
He told me I was the worst thing

918
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,080
that happened to Dynamic Disc. 
I was the worst. 

919
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,760
Yeah, I was the worst thing that
happened to disc golf. 

920
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,960
Thankfully the other people came
to, you know, said dude, what 

921
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,560
are you talking about? 
Why are you being negative? 

922
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,000
Disc golf isn't about 
negativities. 

923
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,560
But yeah, but now sometimes I do
have to watch myself in the 

924
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,120
comments. 
I do have to watch as far as 

925
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,640
reading too many contents, 
especially on Reddit. 

926
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,320
I don't know why I get down a 
Reddit rabbit hole, but I do. 

927
00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:56,240
And that sometimes people do 
tend to kind of hide behind the 

928
00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,400
keyboard as far as giving their 
opinion, but that's OK. 

929
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,040
Especially if you're like, 
disconnected on a Reddit thread 

930
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:03,800
and like, they don't think 
people are going to see 

931
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,040
something like that. 
Yeah. 

932
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,200
And but you're also like 
starting to like you're the face

933
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,240
of dynamic disks to the brand 
manager, right? 

934
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:13,320
So you're also like a not, not 
you're kind of a target. 

935
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,360
Oh yeah, in a sense. 
Oh, yeah. 

936
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,040
So that can't be easy to deal 
with. 

937
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,200
It's all good, though. 
But then I just feed off the 

938
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,520
positive energy, like you said, 
the the people that love 

939
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,640
watching what I do. 
And I was the same way. 

940
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,400
He's like, like I remember when 
we first started doing the, the 

941
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,520
videos way back when and it was 
mostly Eric McCabe and our top 

942
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,880
players. 
And then I would get in there 

943
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,280
and I would throw every now and 
then and I was amazed at people 

944
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,080
going, oh, I wanna see how it 
throws for Bobby because Bobby, 

945
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,040
Bobby throws closer to the way I
throw. 

946
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,240
And I was like, what? 
And so, yeah, if you, if you're 

947
00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:45,920
just a regular thrower, you're 
not a pro, no big deal. 

948
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,480
Just go out there and make that 
content. 

949
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,720
Somebody will want to watch it. 
And even to your remark, as far 

950
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:52,960
as thinking there aren't that 
many views, I mean, you've got 

951
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,360
one that has 1001 that's 1.9, so
basically 2000 views the way I 

952
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,480
look at it. 
And I've heard it before and I 

953
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,400
can't remember who I heard it 
from, but he said basically 

954
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,560
think about it this way. 
Let's say you had an auditorium 

955
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,880
and you rented it out and 2000, 
yeah, 2000 people showed up. 

956
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,760
You'd be like, Oh my God, I'm 
getting ready to talk to 2000 

957
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:12,760
people. 
This is amazing. 

958
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,560
So you think about it in that 
aspect, dude, keep doing it. 

959
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,000
Keep killing it and doing your 
thing. 

960
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,520
Thanks man yeah, I I do think 
about that work wise. 

961
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,000
I had to go present on the stage
at Dreamforce my first year 

962
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,240
working in software. 
It's a big conference in San 

963
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:32,640
Francisco and I was absolutely 
terrified of public speaking. 

964
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,360
And if you want to talk about 
like your basically like you 

965
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,600
kind of get over your fears, 
right? 

966
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,400
That was like a get over my fear
moment. 

967
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,160
And but I do also think about 
the whole like, you know, if 

968
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,920
it's like 1900 people watching, 
I do think about the stadium. 

969
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,880
I think about like what, how are
there so many of you watching? 

970
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,680
It's so confusing. 
But I think it's, it comes down 

971
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,440
to just like be genuine, right? 
Like you can't fake like videos 

972
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,200
you can't like people are going 
to see right through you if 

973
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,440
you're not authentic. 
So I think that's incredibly 

974
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,360
important when you're again, 
like we've talked about this a 

975
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,320
couple times, but you know, make
the stuff you love and my whole 

976
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,600
thing do more of the things that
make you happy in life for sure.

977
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,160
And that's that's disc golf for 
me. 

978
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,400
I love it. 
I love it. 

979
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,000
Well, thanks for hopping on the 
show, dude. 

980
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,320
It was so great to get to know 
you a little bit more and more 

981
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,120
about your story and something 
I've forgotten to do in the last

982
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,160
couple. 
But what I want to do is I want 

983
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,200
to make this more of a dialogue 
at the end. 

984
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,320
So if you have the, the 
basically what I say is you have

985
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,440
a question for me. 
Do you want to ask me something,

986
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,760
anything, and I will be as 
transparent as possible. 

987
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,160
Interesting. 
All right, Well, what's in store

988
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,960
for DD going into 2026? 
OK, any big announcements or 

989
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:43,720
anything? 
I don't know. 

990
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:45,720
Just kidding. 
You can't, you can't spoil them 

991
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:48,040
here. 
But like directionally, you guys

992
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,840
looking for another brand, 
another disk manufacturing 

993
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,960
brand? 
Because that's my dream. 

994
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,280
I'm just kidding. 
No for real though I will say 

995
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,560
real quick, but my whole goal 
was to start my own disc golf 

996
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,040
company, buy my own plastic 
injection molding machine and 

997
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,360
everything. 
And I have met with so many 

998
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,080
injection molders and tooling 
companies now and I am realizing

999
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,560
how insanely expensive it is and
capital expensive is to start a 

1000
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,400
brand. 
And I just like respect for DD 

1001
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,240
and Innova and all those brands 
for sure for doing that. 

1002
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,440
Yeah, No, there's no plans to 
create a new brand or to buy a 

1003
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,600
new brand. 
I'm sure people, I'm sure the 

1004
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,480
venture capitalist haters are 
gonna be all up on this, but no,

1005
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,280
there's no plans to do that 
really. 

1006
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,680
The big plan is to now that 
there's a lot of things that 

1007
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,680
have been put into place, a lot 
of things that have been settled

1008
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,600
and taken care of. 
Now it's time to. 

1009
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,880
And even if you look at the disc
golf industry as a whole, it 

1010
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,720
feels like there's like a way to
put it is like, have we hit the 

1011
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:51,680
bottom as far as the decline 
from COVID? 

1012
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,280
Now a lot of people are like, 
stop complaining about COVID. 

1013
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,760
It's been five years. 
Well, if you look at other 

1014
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,880
industries, they're still 
feeling the ramifications of the

1015
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,760
pandemic, the effect the 
pandemic had. 

1016
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,840
Because we work with like 
Academy and Dick's Sporting 

1017
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,440
Goods and all these big outdoor 
places. 

1018
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,600
They're still feeling the 
leveling out. 

1019
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,680
They're still trying to figure 
out, have we hit bottom as far 

1020
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,280
as certain categories of outdoor
sports. 

1021
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,280
So I feel like for us, we've hit
that and now it's time to get 

1022
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,960
back to just kind of rebuilding 
and rebuilding Dynamic Discs as 

1023
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,880
the brand that you just want to.
We want to be the people that 

1024
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,680
like, if you want to go out and 
go play around at disc golf, we 

1025
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,600
would love to join you. 
We would love to get out on the 

1026
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,800
course and just play around with
you and just have a good time 

1027
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,480
and enjoy disc golf for what it 
is. 

1028
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,280
If you want to be a pro, 
fantastic, we've got stuff for 

1029
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,400
you. 
If you just want to play on the 

1030
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,560
weekend and you don't even know 
that there's a disc golf pro 

1031
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,120
tour, you don't care that yours 
PDJ membership, we still want to

1032
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,000
be out there playing with you. 
So we just want to hang with you

1033
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,280
and play and have some fun at 
with disc golf. 

1034
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,480
So I have another question for 
you then. 

1035
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,280
Yeah. 
What? 

1036
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,360
I ask people this all the time, 
especially when they run me on 

1037
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,760
the course and they I'm like, 
hey, what's your favorite disc 

1038
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,400
in the bag? 
Like what's the disc you could 

1039
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,520
never live without? 
I think that's an interesting 

1040
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,840
question to hear from people. 
Wow, that's probably changed. 

1041
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:12,440
It should change, Bob. 
Yeah, it should. 

1042
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,520
You should like different disks 
and then here's your go to one. 

1043
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,640
Yeah. 
For a while the renegade was my 

1044
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,800
go to. 
Right now my go to. 

1045
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,720
Well God, I say right now cuz 
now. 

1046
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,640
So the treason, the treason, I'm
really liking the treason as it 

1047
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,000
gets beat in it's just a for my 
arm speed. 

1048
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,680
It's a peat speed 10, but it has
enough under stability to where 

1049
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,240
it'll get a little bit of a 
turn. 

1050
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:37,920
Not crazy and it'll definitely 
come back, but not hard. 

1051
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:41,320
So I really like that. 
But what I, I just played this 

1052
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,080
last weekend with a group of 
friends and I had that we did a,

1053
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,040
a, a battle round where we've 
had mystery discs and this is a 

1054
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,520
disc that were coming out in 
2026. 

1055
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,720
So I got it early so I can throw
it and get used to it because 

1056
00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:55,920
they sent it to for us to test 
it out and say, hey, we don't 

1057
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,280
like this. 
Can we change this? 

1058
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,760
It's been on my bag and I threw 
it this weekend again for 

1059
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,880
probably the third round. 
And I'm like this, this is 

1060
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,440
people are going to and it's a 
light disc. 

1061
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,360
It's 156 and it was still a 
little windy and it still held 

1062
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,880
up when I was like, really it 
for my arms, for my arm speed. 

1063
00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:16,880
This disc is, and I know it 
sounds marketing talk, but this 

1064
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,400
disc is so money and I think a 
lot of people are going to love 

1065
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,920
it. 
I think that's going to be the 

1066
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,480
disc that I'm going to be 
grabbing the most when it comes 

1067
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,440
to as long as it's not windy 
because it's lightweight, the 

1068
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,600
one I'm going to be grabbing the
most when it comes off the tee 

1069
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,000
pad. 
You say it was the treason. 

1070
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,040
Well, first it was treason, now 
it's this mystery disc. 

1071
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,600
OK, I was going to say I hadn't 
heard of it. 

1072
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,680
I don't. 
I don't know which one you're 

1073
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,360
talking. 
About I can't tell you the name 

1074
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:42,920
yet because you know, we want. 
We're not I, I'm about 99.9% 

1075
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,040
sure this is what we're going to
go with for this one of the 2026

1076
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,880
releases, but I'm super excited 
about it. 

1077
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,360
That is exciting. 
Well, I'll end with mine mines 

1078
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,720
my sons face on the harp. 
It is one of the funniest things

1079
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,040
and like, seriously guys? 
Did he make that so? 

1080
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,280
He made that face? 
What? 

1081
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,280
Yeah, and then we just uploaded 
the image and then I put a 

1082
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,040
little die around it. 
I didn't really do the die very 

1083
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,360
well because I kind of messed up
with the edge a little bit, but 

1084
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,600
it's literally like my favorite 
disc to throw. 

1085
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,520
What's the story on that face? 
Was he shocked at something or? 

1086
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,800
This is what my son looks like 
all the time. 

1087
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,720
He literally I if if I was going
to describe him. 

1088
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:19,200
I can't wait to show him this. 
He's a velociraptor. 

1089
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,160
OK, I got this. 
One of him. 

1090
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,360
He was doing a handstand. 
He's actually supposed to be 

1091
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,160
like this. 
He's on a ballista pro on this. 

1092
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,040
Hilarious. 
And then my daughter, she's got 

1093
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,520
a dad's favorite here. 
So you know what, actually one 

1094
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,080
of my upcoming videos, she's she
played disc golf me for the 

1095
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,200
first time and it was the cutest
thing ever. 

1096
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,640
And I feel like the happiest 
moment, like I'll never force my

1097
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,080
kids to play a sport, but if 
they want to do it, they can. 

1098
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,280
And Elena's apparently now my 
little sidekick, and at least I 

1099
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,840
can have Daniel in the course of
me with this. 

1100
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:52,000
I still love it. 
I highly suggest if you're 

1101
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,360
watching this and you want to 
get somebody a present, get them

1102
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,840
a custom disc like this because 
they literally, they're so cool.

1103
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,960
And I don't think I've ever seen
another brand do it. 

1104
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:06,800
No, I mean Latitude has deco 
die, but they don't do images 

1105
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,520
like that. 
They do their own images. 

1106
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,160
Yeah, So I haven't seen. 
So Christmas time, it's very 

1107
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,040
popular. 
We sell a lot of Dynamics discs 

1108
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,080
and it's just because we still 
get people to say I can put 

1109
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,840
anything, well, you can put just
about anything. 

1110
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,880
Obviously there's a lot of 
copyright. 

1111
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,040
There's a lot of, you know, we 
can't, we kind of kind of steer,

1112
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,320
steer away from anything. 
Kind of like super aggressive, 

1113
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,280
political. 
We got to kind of be careful. 

1114
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,040
But just about any image we can 
put on a disc, and I've seen 

1115
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,640
some pretty before when we first
started doing it and we didn't 

1116
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,040
have any rules. 
Yeah, there was some 

1117
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,520
questionable discs that I was 
like, should we be putting that 

1118
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:46,920
on a disk? 
So I have. 

1119
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,920
Some hilarious ones I think are 
original. 

1120
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,960
I don't know, you came out with 
your own deco dies, right? 

1121
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,720
Like where? 
It's like there's a cat in space

1122
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:54,200
with a hamburger and a monster. 
Truck. 

1123
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,440
Yeah, I have laser Kitty. 
Yeah, I find my son those 

1124
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,800
because he thinks they're so 
funny. 

1125
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,120
Yeah, those are great. 
Awesome. 

1126
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,760
OK. 
Well, again, Luke, thank you so 

1127
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,880
much for hopping on the show. 
I appreciate it. 

1128
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,080
Hopefully it won't be the last 
we hear from you. 

1129
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,360
Have you back on the show maybe 
in about four or five months to 

1130
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,640
see where you're at, see what 
you got working, working on as 

1131
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,600
far as your disc golf content. 
But again, I appreciate you 

1132
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,280
being on the show. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1133
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,200
Bobby, thanks for having me. 
Take care, man.