1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,200 To this episode of the disc golf fans, man, I am Bobby cool Daddy 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:14,280 slick breeze and we have our first episode. 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:19,280 That is what wait, the first one we I probably should have 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,600 planned that intro a little bit better. 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,400 My thinking is is our first our first for the 2026 disc 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,880 offseason where we're going to get into it. 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,400 We're going to talk about the latest that's happening in disc 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,240 golf and of course we have Alex Worm who is on Team Dynamic Disc 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,080 and you are what interestingly enough, you reminded me you are 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,560 right now overseas and where you said England. 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,840 I'm in England right now. England, yeah. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,400 So you got some stuff going on over in England and you're still 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,600 in disc golf too, still playing some disc golf tournaments out 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,280 there. So that's awesome. 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,200 Which one did you say earlier what you're getting ready to? 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,880 Play. I'll be going to Denmark for a 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,040 small charity event that's used for course maintenance, all that 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,680 stuff. So kind of excited about going 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,240 to Denmark. Is is I know it's probably a 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,560 dumb question, but is disc golf is anything different? 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,960 Like do you can in England, like. 22 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:08,080 Yeah, there's. Like how is it different? 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,400 Socially, things are a lot different. 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,480 How so I'm? Trying to think, I know they 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,880 have a just a different feeling to the game I was. 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,120 The big thing I've noticed when I started playing over here is 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,560 the way they view the sport. They're very, very modern where 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,360 even some of us like guys have been playing in the States for a 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,720 long time. They have the more modern aspect 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,480 of the game and some of the history still hasn't translated 31 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,880 over. So which is nice because you can 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,200 see these guys are being much, much more professional and 33 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,680 treating it like a pro sport and everything like that, where some 34 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,640 of us old guys still remember the days of like Sunday Dubs 35 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,600 League for tags and all the cool shenanigans that happened with 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,840 that. That's awesome, very 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,120 interesting. And then we have Zach Melton, 38 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,600 Who it where are you at right now, Zach? 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,000 I am in Calvin Heinberg's bedroom. 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,920 Or do you mean like the state? Sorry. 41 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,040 Yeah, the state, yeah. I'm in Florida, I'm in currently 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:10,160 in Safety Harbor FL but an hour and 15 minutes N is Brooksville 43 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,480 which is where Supreme flight open is happening this weekend. 44 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,160 Yeah. So we're going to get into that 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,040 a little bit because this is what did you say earlier, this 46 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,640 is your second, third time playing it. 47 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,520 Third time. Third time I think it was. 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,320 I think it was chess.com two years ago, last year's Supreme 49 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,520 Flight Open and again Supreme Flight Open this year. 50 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:30,280 Very cool, very cool. All right, we'll get into that a 51 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,200 little bit more. But yeah, we're on this episode. 52 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,200 We're going to talk a little bit about stuff that's going on in 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,040 disc golf, get y'all's opinion and just kind of lay back and 54 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,040 talk about it. First, I want to talk about some 55 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,640 new releases that are coming out and I'll get your all's take on 56 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:47,200 these. And 1st, I'll start with the 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,360 classic soft justice, and I'm sure you guys are familiar with 58 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,000 the Justice. Tell everybody what they can 59 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,840 expect from a justice. Beef. 60 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,960 Beef. Lots of beef. 61 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,800 Lots of beef. So what kind of shot do? 62 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,640 You think in my bag? The what now? 63 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,960 The most predictable disc in my bag. 64 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,560 Yeah, it's definitely one of those discs that you may not 65 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,040 throw a lot, but when you need it, you need it for sure. 66 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,000 It is. It is absolutely perfect for a 67 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,800 very specific type of shot and you can see how like I don't 68 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,440 need that my bag until either you play in the area of the 69 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,720 country where you need it or if you have that shot and you're 70 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,680 like, it's, there's almost nothing like it. 71 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,200 I think I've seen a lot of companies over the last seven or 72 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,080 eight years try to duplicate that really overstable like 73 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,440 utility mid range. I'd like to think we had it 74 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,240 first though. I think people people been 75 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,360 trying to copy us. Oh yeah, for sure. 76 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,000 And I love this stamp, this kind of graffiti looking stamp, 77 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,440 bubble balloon font, which is kind of cool. 78 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,200 And of course, the classic soft. Yeah, soft. 79 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,160 Soft is interesting. It already doesn't really skip 80 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,360 that much, but classic soft I'm sure grabs the ground really 81 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,080 well. I had one of those down in Spain 82 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,000 last fall and it's like playing on a bunch of cliffs and stuff. 83 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,400 The one thing I loved about the soft plastic was as soon as it 84 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,640 hit, it lost all energy. You didn't have to worry about 85 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,800 rolling away or skipping off into oblivion, it just dies. 86 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,480 Yeah, yeah, if you. If you want a disc that dies, 87 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,399 there you go baby, there you go. Maybe I'll put that in the next 88 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:21,320 ad The that dies. All right, so a close cousin of 89 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,840 the justice is the suspect and this feels like classic blend, 90 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,160 but also is coming out with this fancy. 91 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,800 This is a classic burst classic blend burst, but it has the cool 92 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,560 little stamp and I really like that stamp. 93 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,920 I like the bar stamp. Yeah, it's. 94 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,480 Clean. I actually throw a suspect. 95 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,840 It's one of my approach discs. I love it because any time I 96 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:45,000 feel like if I overthrow or throw, if I just Shank it a 97 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,240 little bit, it's definitely going to come back. 98 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,920 At least toward the basket. Maybe not next the basket, but 99 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,160 at least toward the basket. Do any of you guys throw the 100 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,160 suspect? I do. 101 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,240 I throw my suspect when I needed justice to fly. 102 00:04:57,840 --> 00:04:59,440 It's the best way to describe my suspect. 103 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:03,200 Yeah, I've, I've been told, I've never thrown one in that blend 104 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,640 plastic, but we used to make them in blend and I've been told 105 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,360 that it's the most overstable version of the suspect. 106 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,040 I think when I first came on the team back in the day, I threw 107 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,800 some Lucids and they weren't bad. 108 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,680 They were just straight. Like it wasn't a bad disc at 109 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,320 all. Like it just kind of had a 110 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,560 little bit of an overlap I think with some of the other things I 111 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,760 threw. But yeah, I bet people will be 112 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,400 stoked it's coming out in blend plastic. 113 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,080 Yeah, a matter of fact, it is Classic Blend and it releases 114 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,680 March 5th. So next look, I think that's 115 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,160 next week. Yeah, next week. 116 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,880 So that classic suspect and then they the classic soft justice. 117 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,080 Let me do a little search on my product release page. 118 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:50,800 Here it is classic soft moonshine shine. 119 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,920 I knew that with moonshine, I wish I could turn the lights 120 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,280 off, but no, that comes out February 26th. 121 00:05:56,280 --> 00:05:58,760 So in a couple days as of this recording. 122 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,880 Very cool. All right, so that's we got we 123 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,000 got a few more, but we're we're going to jump into some other 124 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,920 topics. And another thing that I 125 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,600 mentioned or I didn't tell you guys beforehand, but is that did 126 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,640 you read about the disc golf pro Tour expand free live coverage? 127 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,760 Did you guys read about that? No. 128 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,760 OK, so it is. They're excited to announce its 129 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,960 live media plan for 2026 season. Let's see. 130 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,360 The biggest thing is that previously, the Tour has 131 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,960 provided free first round coverage on its YouTube channel, 132 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,640 with a remainder of each term it being broadcast on the DGN Disc 133 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,160 Golf Network. Now, in an effort to bring more 134 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,120 fans into action each day, the two were broadcast the first 135 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,120 hour of each round for free on YouTube, with the entirety of 136 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,400 the first round still being offered at no cost on DGN 137 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,240 itself. Fans simply can create a free 138 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,400 account and choose DGN free from the list. 139 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,080 So you'll get to watch the first hour of each day for free, and 140 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,720 then if you want to watch the rest of it, then you have to go 141 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,480 on Disc Golf Network. What are you guys? 142 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,840 What are your thoughts on that? Smart. 143 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:59,000 Marketing wise it sounds great. Get a good round going through 144 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,080 the 1st hour, everybody's going to get hooked real fast. 145 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,760 I know. And that's that's kind of in the 146 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,640 criticism. Oh, where can Zach is going in 147 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,040 and out? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 148 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,520 Hold on. Kelvin, turn the rock machine 149 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,360 on. Yeah. 150 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,480 ZAP, ZAP it. All the power in the house. 151 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,320 I know. That's not bad. 152 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,520 You're right. So yeah, I think it's I think 153 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,960 it's great because, you know, that's one of the things with 154 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,680 Disc Golf Network is that people felt like, you know, and help in 155 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,160 order to grow the sport, people need to see the pros play and 156 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,040 this gives people a little bit more of an access. 157 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,480 Now I've seen some criticism where they're they're going to 158 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,960 say the first hour is not even disc golf play. 159 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,560 It's going to be more of the setup and there's probably going 160 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,360 to spam us with commercials, but I don't know so much if they're 161 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,480 going to do that. I can't see that happening 162 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:49,200 because I've been watching DGN for some years and typically 163 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,360 they kick those stream on within 10 minutes of the first tee to 164 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,400 first tee off. So unless they're changing a 165 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,680 bunch of stuff. Dude, people are always going to 166 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,040 have something negative to say. That's one thing I've realized. 167 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,320 It's like, you could be like advertised, dude, I'm giving out 168 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,240 free Donuts. Just swing by and they're like, 169 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,120 oh, are they poisoned? You know, like I know. 170 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:08,680 Right. Yeah. 171 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,600 Are they going to give us so much? 172 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,680 What's the catch, bro? You trying to kill us? 173 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,920 Yeah, this. I mean, to me, that sounds like 174 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,880 a smart idea. Try to draw more people in. 175 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,240 Not everyone that comes in is going to create an account and 176 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,480 then watch the rest of it. May some will, you know, it's 177 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,000 like, yeah, yeah. Get more eyeballs. 178 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,600 I I like to see that they're putting forth effort. 179 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,880 That's great. That's my thinking is that 180 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,120 they're doing something, you know, it may, but it may not be 181 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,520 exactly what everybody wants, but at least it's, you know, 182 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,559 it's something to give people more access to watch it. 183 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,480 And of course they want people to subscribe. 184 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,799 That would help. To me, that's what helps keep it 185 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:46,040 going. But I think it's a step in the 186 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,480 right direction. Well, I think doing the first 187 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,920 hour free on their own app or you know, the one website and 188 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,640 stuff like that, you're getting people into their little UI and 189 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,520 their little ecosystem and seeing, hey, there really is 190 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,360 value here. You're bringing people in the 191 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,840 door before you know you have them. 192 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,280 Sit down on the couch type deal. Yeah, no, I like that. 193 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Yeah. So, yeah, not a lot of, not a 194 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,720 lot of pushback for me on this. I think it's great. 195 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,000 OK, So also I want to talk about I I just thought about this. 196 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,480 I remembered seeing this and I want to get your take on the PDJ 197 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,080 rules that some of the changes for 2026. 198 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,800 So we got the first one where excessive time eight O 2.03. 199 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,640 Now it's just called excessive time, it seems. 200 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,840 What do you guys think that kind of solves the problem of that 201 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,520 we've I mean that seat no? Both. 202 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,040 Not even. Not even close. 203 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,640 Both of you shake your head no. Why? 204 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,080 What's going on? Why do you think that not 205 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,920 doesn't help solve the problem? Go ahead, Alex. 206 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,200 Rules don't matter if nobody calls them. 207 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,760 Yeah, it, it's, it doesn't matter if they give us 7 minutes 208 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,920 to throw a shot. It doesn't matter the time 209 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,800 because someone will take more, more time than they're supposed 210 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,320 to. And if no one calls it, then it 211 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,440 like he said, it doesn't matter. And it's, it's also tricky 212 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,280 because you have Marshalls walking with like lead card and 213 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,200 they'll choose to call one maybe sometimes. 214 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,000 But all the other cars, like 97% of like the other cars, like 215 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,000 nothing is ever being called. You know, it's like, you know, 216 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,160 it's it's 30 seconds. I've heard people say let's move 217 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,880 it to 44, Let's move it to a minute less. 218 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,400 It doesn't matter the time they give us because someone will 219 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:26,760 exceed it, you know? And I just. 220 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,960 Yeah. I guess that's my thing is I'm 221 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,760 trying to find the actual well that's from 20. 222 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,720 Well it says December 31st, 2025. 223 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,480 It says the player has 30 seconds to throw. 224 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,560 Oh, when making a throw from another lie, the player has 45 225 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:41,000 seconds to throw. I thought the language said 226 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,320 something about just excessive times, but you actually have 45 227 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,560 seconds to throw according to this if I'm reading this 228 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:50,280 correctly. I thought that was if you like 229 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,320 declared extension. Like you had to declare 230 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,160 extension to get the 45 seconds, otherwise it was normally just 231 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,000 the regular 30. Yeah. 232 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,680 But I mean, it's so hard to enforce these rules because 233 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:08,680 there's no consistent way to announce, hey, your time has 234 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:12,640 started. And that I think is what's makes 235 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,440 these rules so hard to call them a start. 236 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,680 If consistency is going to be key in this, clear definitions 237 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:21,800 are going to be key in this, you know, add an action placing a 238 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,800 mini down. If you place a mini down, does 239 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,560 that start your time? Or when you start rummaging 240 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:29,960 through your bag to grab a disc, does that start your time? 241 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,320 I mean, that's First off, let me think, I think that's why a lot 242 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,200 of the time violations don't get called is well, when do you 243 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,480 start the clock? Yeah, there's a Gray area, the 244 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,800 wording, I haven't read it in a few years, but it was almost 245 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,480 like it's, there's a lot of, in my opinion, there's a lot of 246 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,280 waste of time in between throws. You know, I don't think there's 247 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,160 a couple exceptions, but I don't think people are that slow when 248 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,200 they mark, they have their disc and they go through their chin 249 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,560 and they throw. But there's a lot of like, you 250 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:02,760 know, on these big courses also that we're playing like, you 251 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,200 know, first guy off the box maybe hits a tree 100 feet off 252 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,120 the tee and then the next spot is like 280 feet away. 253 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,920 But like on the opposite side in the junk, like in the, you know, 254 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,760 in the the rough, it's like it's very, it's there's a lot of Gray 255 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,240 area. So in my opinion, I don't think 256 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,600 it's that. I really don't think it's that 257 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,280 big of an issue, even though it doesn't get called, there's just 258 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,320 a few outliers who kind of, and people get to see those people 259 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,840 play a lot. And, and people are upset like 260 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,840 why don't we call time? Why do we let them do this? 261 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,240 And they want it to be taken care of. 262 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,280 But yeah, there's a lot of Gray area there's you can't make 263 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,920 everyone play up at the same pace. 264 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,320 Some people, right? I've been playing disc for a 265 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,160 long time. I think you have to like people 266 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,040 walk up with their bag on as soon as they get through this on 267 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,760 market, move their disc and then they'll back up, put their bag 268 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,840 down, look at their shot, think about it, then go get their 269 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,640 disc, right? I mean, people play differently. 270 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,240 Yeah, let's see. It says the timer. 271 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,200 The timer begins only after the previous player has thrown. 272 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,640 You are next to play, you've located and marked your lie, 273 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,800 taken a stance and confirm the fairway ahead is clear. 274 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,960 If they're fairway suddenly becomes blocked or unsafe, the 275 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,160 timer resets once it is clear again. 276 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,440 I've seen guys go through all that and not mark their disks. 277 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,840 So they're like, my time hasn't started because I haven't marked 278 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,480 right. And they take a lot of time, a 279 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,880 lot of extra. And they're just, you know, you 280 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,600 see people kind of find ways to bend. 281 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,920 Everybody, sort of everybody's going to game the rules to try 282 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,480 to, you know, go in their favorites. 283 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,760 Kind of human nature. At this point I'm a very 284 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,240 unpopular opinion that the game moves too slow. 285 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,480 Yeah, here's what you were talking about. 286 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,520 It says a time extension adds 30 extra seconds to the shot clock, 287 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,960 whether it's a drive, approach or putt. 288 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,880 To use an extension, the player must announce it clearly to the 289 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,440 group, and only one extension can be used per throw. 290 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,520 I don't see any. I don't see anybody doing that 291 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,960 right. You're sitting, you're a putt 292 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,480 and people are watching. You got a crowd around you and 293 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,080 also you're going to go. I need an extension, dude. 294 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,120 The car in front of me distracted me. 295 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,280 Or, you know, I'm thinking about. 296 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,880 Using one on the first tee of like whole whole one round one. 297 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,400 I think I'm just going to get on the box, take about 28 seconds 298 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,040 from that guys. I am not ready extension, you 299 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,720 know. I had a rough night last night. 300 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,240 I need another 30 seconds. Please give it to me I. 301 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,000 Need a drink of water? Someone hit me with a drink. 302 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,320 Yeah. Something it's. 303 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,600 So stupid. Have you got, have you guys ever 304 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,440 been on a card where you're, you were thinking, I'm going to call 305 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,360 this guy or you know, yeah, but did you do it or did you just 306 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,120 kind of keep it to yourself because you don't want to kind 307 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,200 of, you know, 'cause the scene. I do it in a different way. 308 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,440 I like, I, I think if you just communicate, most people don't 309 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,520 like I've also witnessed a card I played on a card where these 310 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,760 two players, one player is notoriously slow. 311 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,040 This is Pittsburgh world, so 2015. 312 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,280 And he, the guy on my card was very frustrated probably two or 313 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,520 three holes in. He's a commentator for disc 314 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,760 golf. I don't know if you can figure 315 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,720 it out who it is. He he waits, he waits till we 316 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,920 have three holes left and then he calls it. 317 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,640 And by that time he's so wound up and and frustrated. 318 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,600 He doesn't really do it in a, in a effective way. 319 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,080 The guy who's being slow, it takes offense and it's just, it 320 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,720 was ridiculous. And it's like, I've been on a 321 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,320 card multiple times where I'm like, hey, man, we're losing 322 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,360 pace with the card in front of us. 323 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,560 I think we all need to try to do better job keeping up. 324 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,520 Didn't have to warn anybody. Now it was because of one 325 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,640 person, but I just said it like that. 326 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,520 And then, you know, we, we kind of picked up the pace and we 327 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,800 tried to catch up, you know? Did you feel like it affected 328 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,280 the card at all that like anybody get grumpy or? 329 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,240 Well, someone, someone like within two holes is like, I just 330 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,840 fuck, I'm rushing and I'm like, well, I mean, you can feel like 331 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,800 however you want to feel, but we have to keep up with card in 332 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,560 front of us. We can't have a four hole gap. 333 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,480 Like that's just not OK. You know we're causing a backup. 334 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:49,080 Yeah, very interesting. It'll I think it'll be 335 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,920 interesting to see the first time someone points it out on, 336 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,320 you know, on coverage or something someone calls another 337 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,480 player because, you know, it's going to be a big thing, a big 338 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,400 blow up. People want to dissect the rule. 339 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,960 Well, the question is, is who's? Who wants to be the first guy to 340 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,160 do it? Really. 341 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,840 Nobody wants to be that guy, and I don't. 342 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,480 I know the game is different at Zack's level versus my level. 343 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,160 And playing over here in England, like we've got guys 344 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,280 that are notoriously slow and you know, if you're behind them, 345 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,080 you're going to be sitting on every T pad waiting and it's 346 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,440 like you can't do anything. Yeah. 347 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,520 So there's a yeah, there's another rule too. 348 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,240 Let's see something I heard where there's something to do 349 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,320 with score keeping that if like if I wanted to, I'm on a card 350 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,120 with Zach because I mean, that happens all the time when I play 351 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,840 Daniel Pro Tour. I must have, I must have played 352 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:48,880 really bad then. If I wanted to see your 353 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,280 scorecard, if I wanted to see what you were, how you were 354 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,440 keeping score, I could. I believe it says I can 355 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,280 literally ask and you have to show me. 356 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,720 Have you heard that haven't? Which I've seen this, I want to 357 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,560 know what happened to 'cause this rule change, yeah. 358 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,480 That's fair. This is this seems like a a very 359 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,119 petty little rule change. I don't know. 360 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:12,079 I'm one of the few people, I think there's probably seven or 361 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:14,400 eight of us on the pro tour still who like to keep a paper 362 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,200 card, which it's funny because you know, there's a couple of 363 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,560 they're like, well, we got to keep this stack of paper cards 364 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,200 because there's a few. You guys won't do it on your 365 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,200 phone, but you know, it's easy. I mean, I never lose service, 366 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,319 get to jot it down. Anybody can just walk up and see 367 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:29,280 it's hanging on the side of the bag. 368 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,320 You don't have to get onto my phone. 369 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,560 I think it's kind of weird to be like, dude, show me your phone, 370 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:33,760 buddy. You know, like, let me see, 371 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,480 right. What are you doing over there? 372 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:37,640 Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, it says. 373 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,480 Effective beginning January 1, 2026, the core changes that 374 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,600 every player is required to keep an independent scorecard, either 375 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,680 digital or paper, for the entire group, rather than relying on 376 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,880 one or two people to keep score for everyone. 377 00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:53,840 I think we've all been keeping score for a while. 378 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,480 I think so, yeah. Yeah. 379 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,680 Do you guys in North America have me over here in Europe? 380 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:02,240 We're still in the old system where it's only two people. 381 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,440 So wait. Congrats. 382 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,960 How many how many times do people hit y'all with the man? 383 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,280 I didn't plug my phone last night. 384 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,480 I got no. Battery. 385 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,320 What happens? What happens? 386 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,920 And then the other one is like, dude, I don't even have, like, I 387 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,240 don't have any signal out here, man. 388 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,960 I get no signal on this course. It's amazing how many people. 389 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,800 Yeah. You carry around a stack of 390 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,720 paper scorecards in your bag, They go, oh, I got you, dude. 391 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,640 Yeah, got you, man. Shoot. 392 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,320 Nice, I thought there was another rule that. 393 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,840 I had a guy get a little a little crabby with me at D Glow 394 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,880 like four or four or five years ago. 395 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,960 He showed up, told one, and at the time he only needed like a 396 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,880 couple, right? I think the everyone keeping 397 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,760 score has been pretty recent. And he was like, I didn't charge 398 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,480 my phone last night. I I just, I can't, I can't be 1. 399 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,200 And I was like, yeah, I bet you don't signal either. 400 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,720 And he like he's like, I really don't. 401 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,800 You could look at it. I'm like, I'm sorry. 402 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,400 I did. That seems like a sore subject. 403 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,480 Maybe you're lying. I don't know. 404 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,120 And. I think there was another rule I 405 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:09,720 can't remember where they talked about how if if you can't your 406 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,560 if there's something in question then your opinion or your take 407 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,720 on something can't be part of what makes the card make the 408 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,400 call. If it's your disc, your shot, 409 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,400 you get no say. It's your card mates. 410 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,920 Is that brand new for 2026? What do you guys think about 411 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,200 that? Do you think that makes sense? 412 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,120 I've seen both Bobby because when I first started touring my 413 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:39,880 like first season of like full touring, I got bullied a couple 414 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,520 times on a call. I was like, I truly do not think 415 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,280 this is what happened in my card, which I'm pretty sure two 416 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,240 of the three weren't even paying attention and one of them was 417 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,080 like, he just gave me a spot that I thought was ridiculous 418 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,640 and I'm actually going to give Yuli a shout. 419 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,760 Yuli told me he's like, dude, if you believe it, you stand on 420 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,960 business like and you do not let them push you around. 421 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:02,440 Now I've also seen I've I've played with people over the last 422 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,200 decade where. Maybe they're trying to get a 423 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,400 better spot, or maybe they're just they don't understand how 424 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,280 frisbees fly. But they also have been very 425 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,600 wrong. So I can see both sides to it. 426 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,400 But it is, it does seem a little ridiculous. 427 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,080 Have no say at all like it, really. 428 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,560 Does and it kind of that kind of brings up a problem that could 429 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,640 be there is that like you said, I mean you're in the middle of 430 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,440 gameplay. Everybody's thinking about their 431 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,680 own game. Especially if one guy had a bad 432 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,400 shot, he's not going to be really paying a lot of attention 433 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,840 to every every other play. And if two people happen to not 434 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,120 catch it, then you've got to rely on that one person. 435 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,760 And what if he doesn't like you? Right. 436 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,880 What if you're like it, you know, I hate to say, but what if 437 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,800 you're like really close, you're both, you know, trying to play 438 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,360 for some cash and, you know. Catch line or cut line? 439 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:48,440 Yeah. Yeah, I could see that. 440 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,280 Being you don't, you don't want to think people would do that. 441 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,440 But like, there's human error all the time in sports. 442 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,880 Like, it could happen. Yeah. 443 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,840 So that got interesting. I was in France a couple years 444 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,320 ago. I was the only like non French 445 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,720 person on the card battling for first at a regional tournament 446 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,400 on the line. And everybody's like, no, no, 447 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,800 no, no, no. And I'm like, no, look at it 448 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,800 again. Like actually, I'm not saying 449 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,640 there was malicious intent, but I feel like you should at least 450 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,120 be able to say a little bit in your own defense. 451 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,720 Yeah, yeah. Do you have to stay? 452 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,760 Do you have to like literally stay quiet or can you just, can 453 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,600 you say something? But they'll just, they can't, 454 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,520 they can't include that in their decision making. 455 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,400 Or do you have to back away while the three other, you know, 456 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,120 players make it the choice? That's it. 457 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:36,320 Your your input doesn't matter, it's it's your three card mates. 458 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,680 Choose either where you crossed in or out. 459 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,240 Like whatever kind of rules decisions you have that come out 460 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,320 right around you get no say. I could say like, I hate you 461 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,160 guys, I'm going to kill you after this round, but it doesn't 462 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,680 matter. Like they're, you know, I'm, I'm 463 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,320 not saying I will, but you know, OK. 464 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,000 Yeah, but it doesn't matter what I say. 465 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,960 I could say like, listen, I'm going to wreck your car if you 466 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,720 all call me out of bounds. But it doesn't matter what I 467 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,960 say. They get to call it, you know. 468 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,440 Yeah, that'll be interesting. So some interesting new rules 469 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,200 that I wonder if they'll even come into play for 2026 again, 470 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:05,640 just. Like what? 471 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,960 Sorry, what? Alex said. 472 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,280 I'm curious what situation was brought up or how many times it 473 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,120 was brought up for them to think this is. 474 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:16,040 This needs to happen. I've got a good guess it may 475 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:22,560 involve a rock on a hill. Do tell who was on DGN last 476 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,720 year. Sorry, I think I know. 477 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,120 Yeah, no, I know what you're talking about. 478 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,280 Interesting. Just so you guys know, Clemens 479 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,680 just texted me. He said send me the link, I'll 480 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,760 hop on here in a few minutes. So we may have have Clemens pop 481 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,960 on here. Clemens is who called me when my 482 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,440 screen like glitched out. I had to like, ignore his phone 483 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,240 call. What a jerk. 484 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:49,280 I know. I mean, did I forget to put my 485 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,400 phone on do not Disturb? Yes, but yeah. 486 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,080 All right, so it will have to if those rules come up, but we'll 487 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,120 have to talk about that. I'm going to upcoming episode if 488 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:02,640 if anything ever happened. So the other thing I want to 489 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,320 talk about is just real quick glass blown open just to give 490 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,200 everybody kind of up an update. We are at 183 players signed up 491 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,040 ready to come to Emporia to experience and create their own 492 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:19,280 GBO moment. You've got time to sign up. 493 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:24,000 However, there are other events happening in Emporia, KS that 494 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,080 are non disc golf related. And so that means that the 495 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,880 Airbnb's, the hotels will start filling up if they're not 496 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,040 already filling up. So if you're on the fence and 497 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,280 you're going to stay and want to stay in Emporia, I highly 498 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:41,320 recommend that you decide and get your hotel booked or Airbnb 499 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,880 book because it's going to be a challenge. 500 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,080 The closer we get to that weekend, for some reason, the 501 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,160 stars aligned and all kinds of events are happening on that 502 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,840 weekend here in Emporia, KS, which is great for the town, but 503 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,400 it was a little bit frustrating to find places to stay. 504 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,400 Now, I know Zach's been to Glasburn Open, but Alex, have 505 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,720 you played the Glasburn Open before? 506 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:01,920 I have not. It's been a little bit of a 507 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,200 challenge for me to cross the pond and get over to Emporia, 508 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,400 but yeah, think I got a free place to crash this year. 509 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,280 Oh, I'm sure you. I'm sure you would have a free 510 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,280 place to crash Zach if he ever stays on the show. 511 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,360 I'm back. Are you getting what have you 512 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:18,560 not put it on? Do not disturb. 513 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:20,760 I was about to and then he said my name. 514 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,520 So it's OK, let's talk, let's talk. 515 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,280 No, I just wanted to get, you know, are you, you're going to 516 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,480 be a GB O this year? Yeah, I plan on it. 517 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,760 I got to talk to my team manager and see if he'll sign me up and 518 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,520 then I'm coming. OK? 519 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,600 No. Actually. 520 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,840 So last year I didn't play it, but I came for the week to hang 521 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,000 out, did media stuff. So I'm unsure if I'm going to 522 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,120 play or just do that again. Because I'm going to be honest, 523 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:44,840 it was really, really fun to just hang out all week and I and 524 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,800 I could just not play and and follow you around and bug you 525 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,640 this year so well. Why would that be different than 526 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,800 any other year? Whether? 527 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,280 You're playing, it's not so. Why break tradition? 528 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,040 Yeah. You annoyed Bobby to her. 529 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,120 Yeah, but yeah, it'll be I. Love Bobby. 530 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,360 Of course we want you here, Zach, and we all know that, you 531 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:09,880 know, it's it's it's the second year of the, you know, kind of 532 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,880 the coming back of GBO. Some different choices were made 533 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,280 a few years ago about the glass one Open, but we're back to just 534 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,480 making it a great experience for people to come out. 535 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,080 Enjoy the town of Emporia, a week full of disc golf and 536 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,920 having fun and seeing people that love the sport just as much 537 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,000 as they do and just kind of I don't know, it's a great time. 538 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,520 So get signed up. You can go to glass one open dot 539 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,600 com and get more info there. It's let's talk. 540 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,760 Let's talk about some other new discs. 541 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:41,800 So the other ones that are coming out is the Lucid Burst 542 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,960 Motive coming out this week, February 26. 543 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:51,400 And these have a newer stamp on it for the Lucid, something with 544 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,640 a little more flow, a little more motion to it. 545 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,320 Just a little bit of an update to the way our stamp looks. 546 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,960 I think it looks nice and clean. It looks, it looks strong. 547 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:05,120 Yeah, Strong. Yeah, our guys, Jacob and Kevin 548 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,560 did a great job putting this together and coming up with 549 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,800 Jacob Temp. I'm sorry. 550 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,880 Temp oh, temp OK, the same Jacob. 551 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,520 Yeah. Wow. 552 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,920 So yeah, write that down. You probably shouldn't. 553 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,160 And we got a blue here. So. 554 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:21,800 But before we start recording, Alex was telling me that the 555 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,000 Motive is one of his discs that he really loves. 556 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,120 Tell me a little bit about what the Motive does for you, Alex. 557 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:33,480 For me that was a go to driver off the tee in the woods just 558 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,840 because it was a hyzer flip to laser beam disc for me. 559 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,880 Especially late in like a two round tournament when you're 560 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,000 dead tired, don't have to throw as hard, flip up beautifully and 561 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,760 just glide. It was one of those things where 562 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,120 it's like, do I want to throw an escape right now? 563 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:51,880 Now I'm feeling tired. Let's go down to the motive and 564 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,320 it's going to do the same thing with less power. 565 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,000 Yes, I have. I had a Fusion one that was from 566 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,720 the junior worlds. They got the stamp their own 567 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,000 disk and that was the disk they got the stamp. 568 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,840 I unfortunately lost that. I don't know where it is, but I 569 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,240 love that one. I put a lucid in there and that 570 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,120 lucid 1 was a little too flippy for me. 571 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,640 So I'm putting going to put back the few the fusion because you 572 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,920 also have infusion plastic. But I love the motive as well. 573 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,680 For for me, it's a gets a nice flex shot when I need it. 574 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,160 And it's interesting that you say that because that's 575 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,360 something that I've tried or thought about. 576 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,120 Is that like around hold? Oh, there he is. 577 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,000 What's up, Cruz? Hey, what's up? 578 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,920 Hey is there any way you can move your phone to wide instead 579 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,920 of portrait? Horizontal buddy. 580 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,080 Horizontal. Yeah. 581 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,680 Is that good? But it's not good. 582 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,400 Oh, you, he's got, he's got the screen lock on. 583 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,760 You got a. Screen lock on. 584 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,520 Bro yeah, he has to. Never. 585 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,640 No I don't. I never have screen lock. 586 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,520 On hamburger mode, not hot dog. Dude, I remember my first cell 587 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,800 phone. Maybe. 588 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,880 Maybe get out of the session and then come back. 589 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,000 Oh. Try it again. 590 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,360 Should I join it? Poor guy. 591 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,120 He's been I'll join it. He's. 592 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:08,640 Been trying to find a bag. I mean, he's yeah, he's been on 593 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,040 one dude. He'd give him a break. 594 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,880 He's had a tough. OK, we'll let you stay. 595 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,880 Rough offseason. The way you are, I didn't know 596 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,960 if you could like leave the session and then come and then 597 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,360 turn your phone sideways and come back in if it'll let you or 598 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:23,120 if you just freeze. I think he he just left. 599 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,240 I just was like, I'm here. He raged quit. 600 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,600 He's like, I'm already getting hazed. 601 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,120 I'm done. He gone. 602 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,080 So yeah, no, what I was talking about is like, I've done the 603 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,840 same thing where I was like, I need the disc down or something 604 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,320 because I'm tired and and my discs aren't throwing the way I 605 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,960 want them to throw. And instead of fighting it, be 606 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,360 smart about it. So I've done that myself as 607 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,160 well. The other one, as we're waiting 608 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,720 for Chris to come on, we'll just keep his face frozen right 609 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:52,400 there. That'll be that. 610 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,200 Look at that. Look at that. 611 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,840 Big old forehead. Man, we also have coming out. 612 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,040 Oh Nope, he's gone for good. Sure, we have the fusion orbit 613 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,680 on. It's available wholesale right 614 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,680 now and actually did pretty good, which I'm very happy 615 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,880 about. Fusion. 616 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,200 Orbit what? The Fusion Orbit treason that's 617 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,080 coming out on March 12th, so it got some real pretty color 618 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,760 combinations here. Bobby's Disc. 619 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,000 Oh gosh, I love the trees and I was throwing it this weekend at 620 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,960 a veterans for event vet event I played and it was doing so good 621 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,320 for me. Such a good distance driver. 622 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,560 It's what I'm using to help get better distance and then we have 623 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,720 the fusion orbit Raider coming out as well. 624 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,640 That's. Pretty. 625 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,400 Yeah, so it's just really cool. I don't know if the fusion orbit 626 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,320 does anything to the flight if affects the flight. 627 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,280 So I have to get that treason out and throw it a few times to 628 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,320 see if it does anything for the flight. 629 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,480 So those are coming out. So that's the new stuff. 630 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,760 So, OK, Chris, appreciate you joining us to get your grocery 631 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,480 shopping done. Yeah, we went to a couple 632 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,000 different spots. There's a place here called 633 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,440 Ollie's like L or Olli. E. 634 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,800 Yeah, and it's like super cheap. You can get like Clif bars, like 635 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,520 a huge like a box of 12 for like 6 bucks. 636 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,840 So that's a spot. They've been expired for like 6 637 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,720 months or are they still no? I was worried about that. 638 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,840 I I made sure I checked. It they're good. 639 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,160 Nice, cool. Well, I appreciate you joining 640 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,720 us. We just talked about a couple of 641 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,520 new rules that the PDJ has for 2026. 642 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,960 The big one, maybe get your take on it real quick, is the the 643 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,120 time rule, the excessive time. Chris doesn't call rules. 644 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,760 He doesn't have an opinion. I only call you. 645 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,000 Don't call rules on people you don't call. 646 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,520 People on rules. No, I I have. 647 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,440 I got some stories about that. I probably shouldn't tell him 648 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,760 here. Let's hear it. 649 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,240 Yeah, No. You should you. 650 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,880 Definitely do it. Do it. 651 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,480 Come on, drop the goods we want to hear. 652 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,680 Just don't say names. You can't say names. 653 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,240 You can't say I have stories and be like I shouldn't. 654 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,040 I know I. Can't do that. 655 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:08,720 Well, I, I tend to not like, I will, I'll take the route of 656 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,560 like letting a player know if they're like, you know, overtime 657 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,920 or something like that. But it's usually not an issue 658 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,320 until you're like backing up other cards, you know, or 659 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,480 somebody's like just egregious every single time. 660 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:30,640 But there was a time in Emporia many, many years ago and there 661 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,520 was somebody who wasn't on my card and he was taking forever. 662 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,200 And so we we called him once we like gave him a warning and his 663 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,360 card seconded it. And then a couples later we were 664 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,480 like, yeah, we got you overtime. Like somebody had a clock out. 665 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,360 And then we had the rule pulled up and we like came up to him. 666 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,960 We were like, we this is our second time. 667 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,840 Like you got to have it. And he was not liking it and 668 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,520 kind of, like, tried to square up to us and was kind of getting 669 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,120 a little crazy. And, yeah, so it was quite, 670 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,720 quite an experience. And so like, because you never 671 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,840 want to be put in that position, you know, so you're like, man, 672 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,760 if somebody's taken 10 seconds over, like, do I really want to, 673 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,080 like, call this dude and have something happen? 674 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,160 But that was years ago. I feel like people now are more 675 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,720 professional. Yeah. 676 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,360 Who wasn't? Listen, listen. 677 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,840 I'll say the names. I'll say the names from my 678 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,960 story. I'll say the names from my story 679 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,920 of Chris Will. When I was my story from 680 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,800 Pittsburgh Worlds, it was Philo and Germ. 681 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,520 OK, Philo really slow. Germ got really mad. 682 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,120 He calls him with three holes to go. 683 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,040 Chris, you got to tell us who it is now there. 684 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,720 Well, it was. It was Nico le Castro. 685 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,880 Go back here. But he he, yeah, like at the end 686 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,920 he was like, can't. Believe you did it. 687 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,440 I can't believe you did it. He was like, all right, you got, 688 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,920 you got. He was just mad. 689 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,480 He was like mad and frustrated because he didn't think we could 690 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,760 call from like another card. But at the end he's like, all 691 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,680 right, you guys are right. But Adam Poria, again, I was on 692 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,800 a card with the Germ and Philo and Yuli, and this was like 2016 693 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,560 or something. So it was like my first time 694 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,240 playing with the big dogs. And I think Germ called Philo on 695 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,160 time and then like Philo came back and called Germ on time. 696 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,680 And you, I was standing next to you and I just looked at him. 697 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,560 I was like, I don't want any part of this, bro. 698 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,120 It's like not not for me. That's. 699 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,160 That's what happened to me, dude. 700 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,480 You remember the par 5 at Moraine, like the long wooded 701 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,080 par 5? It's like whole 5 or search or 702 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,480 whatever. We we start out. 703 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,000 This was shotgun start. This is like Saturday morning of 704 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,280 Pittsburgh World's like the final day before, like the 705 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,560 final, whatever. And I think we started like on 706 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,840 hole 8. So like we only had a few holes 707 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,720 left. And then he called Philo from 708 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,680 across the fairway. I mean, we're on this hole for 709 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,240 like 48 minutes. It was forever. 710 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,720 And then and then he got mad at Germ and then they started going 711 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,560 back and forth and Paul Omen, who didn't make the cut, he 712 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,720 caddied for me. So we're just looking like back 713 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,040 and forth like this is, I don't want to, I don't want to say 714 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,080 anything. I'm just watching. 715 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,960 I needed popcorn is what I need there. 716 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,800 Yeah. So every launch, apparently we 717 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,040 got the popcorn. Yeah, those guys had a little 718 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,920 bit of history, so and I didn't know anything about it, so it 719 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,920 makes sense. That's great. 720 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:24,480 That's great that he called him back. 721 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,960 That's awesome. Yeah. 722 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,639 But yeah, I could see to where if it's a rule and it's 723 00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:33,280 frustrating if you feel like you need to call because someone's 724 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,960 violating the rule, but then it's like it makes you question 725 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,040 because you never know how someone's going to confront or 726 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:41,120 react to getting called on a rule. 727 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,159 And if it makes you uncomfortable, then you start 728 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,000 thinking, am I going to call people on this rule again? 729 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,480 And and, you know, risk getting, you know, bowed up on. 730 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,920 So I don't know. Yeah, it's, it's interesting. 731 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,719 It it like puts players kind of in a weird position because like 732 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,120 you realistically, if I'm calling Zach on a rule and he's 733 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,680 getting stroke for it, I'm gaining an advantage. 734 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,240 So like it puts you in a weird position because you're like, I 735 00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:08,360 don't want this person to think that I'm trying to beat them 736 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,640 just by getting free strokes from them. 737 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,600 And so I'm like, I don't want to, I don't want to do that, 738 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,080 but. I can see free stroke of me. 739 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,240 That's crazy. Yeah, the. 740 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,680 Other hand of that though is is if you're putting yourself in a 741 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,280 position to get called by somebody, maybe you just need to 742 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,920 look at yourself as a player and think what am I doing wrong? 743 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,800 Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. That's what should like, you 744 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,320 don't want to butt it. Yeah, it's like you don't, No, 745 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,040 no, it's like you don't really want to do that. 746 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,000 And I try not to as a player to put my card mates in a position 747 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,120 like that. But some players. 748 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,680 Do this is gone Decepticon. Yeah, yeah, I'm gone. 749 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:49,680 Yeah. I agree. 750 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,120 No, you're here. You're here, you just sounded 751 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,320 like a robot. But if what you said, I'm sure 752 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,360 we would agree with SO. I don't want to call. 753 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:07,760 It I'm scared of people. All right we'll give Chris 754 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,200 Clemons some time to to hop back in and connect back in. 755 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,240 The next thing I wanted to talk about is let's see what we got 756 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,880 time we got plenty yeah we got plenty of time is UC is now 757 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,720 European open disc golf championship. 758 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:25,680 He's going to spearhead that and I was going to play the clip. 759 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,560 Let me see. We're going to get fancy here, 760 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,680 so let's see if it'll let me and. 761 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,240 Then I'll try to not talk over it. 762 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:35,920 Yeah, this. Is the overall. 763 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,320 Experience. Let me replay it. 764 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,200 Boom. But the boom. 765 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,800 So it'll start from the beginning. 766 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,000 European Disc Golf Championships 2027 in Dunbar, What can they 767 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,680 expect? Our goal is to create the best 768 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,000 disc golf event in Europe, nothing less. 769 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,640 We have an incredible base to build on, and our plan is to 770 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,120 elevate both the player and the fan experience in Dunbar Disc 771 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,960 Golf Center, which is widely known and recognized as one of 772 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,560 the best championship forces in the world. 773 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,600 I will predict that this event in 27 will be one of the most 774 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,000 widely televised disco events in the world. 775 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,080 We plan to connect with multiple international TV channels. 776 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,880 And what about the fans? So what do you guys think? 777 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,320 What is your impression? I mean he the he's been, they 778 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,400 talk about how he did a great job with world. 779 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,640 So do you think he can strike gold again? 780 00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:36,040 I'd. I'd have AI don't know how you 781 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,680 do better than worlds. Like I went to World last year. 782 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,520 It was awesome. It was incredible. 783 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,400 You know, it was, it's hard to just put it into words, but it 784 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,920 was big time. There are people everywhere. 785 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,120 There's so many spectators. The courses were incredible, you 786 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,640 know, the player party, the professionalism, like they went 787 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,400 above and beyond. So I believe him and saying 788 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,600 that's what they want to do. I mean, I just I guess you're 789 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,280 going to try to duplicate that every time. 790 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,000 But that was I don't know how you do better. 791 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,360 You know, it was, it was great. Do you agree that those courses 792 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,440 are some of the best in the world? 793 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,120 Yeah, they're up there for sure. Like like for sure, like they 794 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,760 are extremely difficult, but fair. 795 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,880 You know, decent shots don't get you birdies, you know, and if 796 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,320 you throw a bad shot, you're punished. 797 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,400 If you throw a great shot, you have an opportunity to score, 798 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,440 but you're not guaranteed. You know, like it's it's top of 799 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,040 the line. It's up there for sure. 800 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,120 Should be for most people if you played it. 801 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,920 What are your thoughts, Alex? I want to see if you see can 802 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,880 recreate the hype that he did around worlds from last year, 803 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,120 because I know talking to all my European friends over here, 804 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,960 everybody went because it was the first time. 805 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,040 They've never experienced that before. 806 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,120 And I wonder if they're going to if he can keep this hype up or 807 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,760 if everybody's going to become kind of desensitized to it. 808 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:49,920 Right. It's like in the States. 809 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,000 Hey, you going to TGBT this year? 810 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,120 Now? I'm going to wait till next year 811 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,200 when it comes in town. I got stuff going on this year, 812 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,400 last year, and we're up. Everybody dropped everything and 813 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,920 like, first time I'm there. Cool. 814 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,600 Yeah, I get that. But I want to see if he can keep 815 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,560 that hype moving forward and keep those numbers up. 816 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,760 Yeah. Yeah, that's a that's a good 817 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,160 point. It was the first the biggest 818 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,840 like, you know, and it was a huge thing. 819 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,400 If they're going to continue to have it, it's like, yeah, does 820 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,440 he can like I I find a hard find it hard to believe you can make 821 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,640 not a major be like something like that, right. 822 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,280 You know, like you're not like the first worlds in Finland, not 823 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,360 you know, that's that's a great point. 824 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,720 It had crazy amount of hype. It'll be interesting. 825 00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,440 I like it's still going to be a good tournament. 826 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,400 I'm not going to sit here and say, you see, can't run a good 827 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,520 tournament because that's what he does. 828 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,440 He sets a standard. Yeah. 829 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,840 Is he going to be able to keep outperforming himself is what 830 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,280 I'm really curious about. Is it going to be good? 831 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,760 Yeah. Like, he does good work, you 832 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,920 can't deny that. But can he outperform himself is 833 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,160 what I'm really trying to figure out. 834 00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:55,240 Sure. So what we're talking about, 835 00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:57,920 Chris, is UC's announcement about doing the European Open 836 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,080 Disc Golf Championship. This kind of our feedback or our 837 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,680 thoughts as far as re repeating worlds that everybody you know 838 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,200 said it was just amazing and best ever. 839 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,640 Is this something that he's trying to repeat? 840 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,040 Is that did he, did he set himself up? 841 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,200 In other words, did he set the bar so high, even just for 842 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,800 himself, that are people going to expect so much from this 843 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,520 European Championship that will be able to meet those 844 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,560 expectations? Yeah, it'll be, it'll be tough 845 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,120 because Worlds was, you know, amazing. 846 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,840 And it was my first time in Europe, and it was just kind of 847 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,640 an event that, like, there were so many people there watching. 848 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,360 But yeah, UC has always done really good events. 849 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:46,720 And I mean, it would probably be pretty tough to beat it, but I 850 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:49,920 feel like if he at least gets it on par with how Worlds was, I 851 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,640 think it'll be a success. It'll be interesting to see it, 852 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,160 but like you guys said, he's he's done it before and so he 853 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,920 has the tools that just that. Does he have the same resources 854 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,440 to do it again? Chris, what was your favorite? 855 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,960 Part about worlds over there. What was your favorite part of 856 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,560 the trip? It's crazy because it's like a 857 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,080 blur, you know, we were there for like a month and a week or 858 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,280 something like that, and it was just like a blur. 859 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,400 But I mean, the courses were awesome. 860 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,160 The people were really cool. And it was really cool to like, 861 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:28,480 especially in Estonia to like go around and not have to like rent 862 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,840 a car. We could just like take the 863 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,040 little scooters everywhere and it was really hot. 864 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,240 I remember in Finland that was pretty wild. 865 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:39,320 There was no air conditioning anywhere. 866 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,960 I don't know, like all of it was just amazing. 867 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,240 Besides the plane ride over there, that was terrible. 868 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,920 Was it why? Why was it bad? 869 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,800 It's just like you're, you're losing so much sleep, you know? 870 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,680 And like I remember when we finally got to Finland, because 871 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,400 then we had to go back to Norway, but we were like looking 872 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,320 for a place to sleep for like 2 hours because we've been up for 873 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,960 so long and there was just like not a lot of good places. 874 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:12,880 When I did get to Norway after being up for like, you know, 30 875 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,080 hours or whatever, like it was about 7:00 and I just passed out 876 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,480 and slept for like 1214 hours. It was, it was one of the best 877 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,920 sleeps of my life. It was nice. 878 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:26,040 Yeah, they're cool. Let's see. 879 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,800 It's going to have to be like a wait and see thing. 880 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,960 Obviously we have to wait and see if he can produce before we 881 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,760 talk about the next thing we is which is the supreme flight. 882 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,920 I want to talk about this past week and I played a round at 883 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,840 John Zink in Sky took Oklahoma. So shout out to basket case disc 884 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,440 golf for putting on a veterans for vet had a great time, got me 885 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,760 a nice veterans for vet stamped truth. 886 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,640 So I'm excited to put that in my bag and try it out again. 887 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,120 I used to throw the truth while back. 888 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:57,120 That truth? Or OG truth. 889 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:04,520 OG Truth, they raised 1020 a $1000.20. 890 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:13,320 Why am I saying it that way? 1026 I can't talk 1026 dollars. 891 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,120 There we go for the Coffee Bunker, which is a veteran 892 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,480 organization. Let's see, it is for the price 893 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,280 of a cup of coffee a week to help veterans keep moving 894 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,720 forward. So it helps veterans out in the 895 00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,160 area. So if you we still have a little 896 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,840 bit of time left in the veterans for vet season. 897 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,840 So if you're looking for an event to help out your local 898 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,920 veterans or organization and just kind of a turn key way of 899 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,560 running a casual event in your area, check it's check out 900 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,400 veterans for vet@dynamitedisc.com. 901 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,760 But anyway, shout out to basket case disc golfer running a 902 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,200 really fun event. It was cool. 903 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,680 Very, very, very cool. And then before it goes supreme, 904 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,920 I did I have a couple questions come in in our form. 905 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,640 So this one's for Zach. What would you want your tour 906 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,320 series disc to be if it wasn't the Maverick? 907 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,480 If the Maverick didn't exist? Whatever, Chris. 908 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,400 Wants I would just take what he I. 909 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,360 Knew he's going to say that. I knew you were going to say 910 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,320 that. No, Bobby, you know, for real, 911 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,440 I've been loving the heist that I got for a Driver to throw with 912 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,720 Heiser pops up and goes really far. 913 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,520 Heist is sneaky good. I'm not throwing it into a 914 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,360 headwind, but it's got a lot of glide, a lot of speed. 915 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,560 If I could get like a like a special, maybe like a slightly 916 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,560 more stable version of that, some kind of stabilized, you 917 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,080 know, I think I've had two and the one that was flatter was 918 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,720 flippier than the one with the little Dome. 919 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:45,000 So maybe like a cool domey run of like moonshine Orbit Heist 920 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,720 would be like pretty sweet I think. 921 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,320 Heist. And what is it for? 922 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,000 A lot of arm speeds, you know. I throw the heist. 923 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,320 It's it's one where if there's a little bit of wind, if it's a 924 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,840 little bit of wind, I'm grabbing the heist and it gets a little 925 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,320 more turn than the trespass. So I love the heist. 926 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,600 I'm using mine as a Tailwind bomber. 927 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,840 A Tailwind bomber, yeah. Which do you have, the Lucid or 928 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,040 the Fusion? I got the Fusion 1. 929 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,880 You have a fusion, you have a lucid one. 930 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,360 Yeah, we have the fluid as well. But I haven't thrown a fusion 931 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,960 one actually. Well, maybe you need to. 932 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,640 How do they? Control that fusion. 933 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,040 I I have a lucid 1. I don't have a Fusion 1. 934 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,720 OK, OK, OK. Yeah, I've got the one that I 935 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:32,000 think was like the team promo ones that we all got. 936 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,400 Yeah, I saw the video of Bobby of you throwing a lucid in a 937 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,520 fusion, but like you threw 1 like this and one like that, so 938 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,040 I just don't know what they do so. 939 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,840 OK, I'm glad I'm I'm glad my video could help you out and 940 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,680 help you figure it out. Thank you. 941 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,400 What's your Now What is your Tour series disc Chris? 942 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,080 Can I answer that? Are we? 943 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,040 Allowed to say that? I don't know, maybe. 944 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,400 So. This is what disc offense for 945 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,760 man does bro. We, we, we give all. 946 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,840 These nitty gritty. Maybe, we say, we could. 947 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,720 Probably. Maybe he can't, maybe he can't 948 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:07,400 say, but what would he like it to be? 949 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,000 Yeah. Well, I've had, I've had the 950 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,160 culprit, I've had the defender, I've had the verdict. 951 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,680 I've never had a judge, never had the felon. 952 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,600 Either never had the judge. No, like I, I never had like a 953 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,360 lucid judge because that's what we usually did. 954 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,120 Like that premium plastic stuff in tour series. 955 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,240 I've had a lot of like little smaller moonshine runs and stuff 956 00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:36,360 like that. So it was, it was a lot to 957 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,000 choose from. Like there's a lot of discs and 958 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,280 a lot of good ones. Yeah, looking at SO. 959 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,840 I'm looking at the the release calendar and I know what it is. 960 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,800 Yeah, this one's going to be a good one. 961 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,360 This is what I do too. No, you don't. 962 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,120 Patrol. It's a patrol. 963 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,320 A patrol. That's right, baby. 964 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,200 That's right, he's a super, super flippy flip. 965 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,400 Nah, that's Chris's straight backhand, man. 966 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,000 Yeah, I use it. I use it for like if there's a 967 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,720 headwind. I need a big old hyzer. 968 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,760 I love I love how the discs are that are great for us normal 969 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,320 people are the ones that you guys use to bash each other. 970 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,120 Dude, that's. That's fair. 971 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,560 That's actually I don't think we make it anymore, but I would 972 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,040 suggest that this a lot to people back when we made it. 973 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,720 They're like I need a mid range that like I just need it to turn 974 00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:31,440 and a lot of glut. I'm like, dude, we have the 975 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,960 perfect mid for that for people with lower arm speeds or you 976 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,160 know, like it's I suggested it to locals all the time, like our 977 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:39,920 store. Easy to throw. 978 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,840 It's yeah, easy to just throw it and it flies. 979 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,000 Yeah, one that's kind of in the lineup right now that I've 980 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,320 suggested to more people, the bounty. 981 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,760 That's another one I hear a lot about. 982 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,240 Yeah. The bounties want something they 983 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,480 and it's easy. It's. 984 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,800 Like similar to the fuse, I think that like under stable mid 985 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,720 slot that's like but the bounty is a patrol that they all come 986 00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:07,720 out in lightweight. Is that right? 987 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,040 No. No, they came out heavies. 988 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,480 Yeah, I think, I think they started make them a little 989 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,240 lighter, but I think they had Max weight. 990 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:18,840 Patrols, I'm pretty sure. OK, but trolls flippier than a 991 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,520 bounty, right? Correct. 992 00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:24,160 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't even see it listed 993 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,480 anywhere on even as OP. Yeah. 994 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,400 Bounty and fuse are like pretty much the same flight. 995 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,960 It's just like, what field do you prefer? 996 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,360 Pretty much. All right, let's talk. 997 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,560 Supreme Flight open, Yeah. That fuse is like usually a 998 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,000 little donut. Let's do it. 999 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, immediately. Supreme flight open. 1000 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,400 You guys ready for it? You don't know. 1001 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,240 We're out there. We're working. 1002 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:51,280 We're working on it, man. Yeah, they might have. 1003 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,440 They might have the worst lefty hole in the world on this 1004 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,120 course. Which hole is that? 1005 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:02,560 Hole 5, new hole 5. It is very, very, very hard. 1006 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,120 It's very fair, but it's it made me want to walk off the course 1007 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,240 the first time I played it. Really. 1008 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:10,480 Yeah. I thought I was going to. 1009 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,200 I thought I was going to take an 8 on it. 1010 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,800 Dude, it's crazy. It's rough. 1011 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,000 You'll see it on coverage. It's if you if, for those not 1012 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,160 familiar with the old hole five, it was kind of an elevated tee 1013 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,760 pad. There's a valley. 1014 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,680 There's a really big wall on the other side. 1015 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,720 The FBO basket sits on top of the wall. 1016 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,160 And then the men's basket last year was 100 feet past that and 1017 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,680 kind of bent to the left. It was like a righty hyzer, 1018 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:40,800 essentially Chris, what was like 420, something like that. 1019 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:46,040 Yeah, probably like 440. 440 yeah, 440 sounds about right. 1020 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,280 So what they decided to do, because that was a hard Part 3, 1021 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:55,400 was to back the tee pad back 100 feet into the right and then 1022 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,360 make it basically even further to carry this valley. 1023 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,280 And then once you clear that giant wall on the other side, 1024 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,080 you know, if they painted it green, it'd look like the green 1025 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,720 monster from Fenway. And then once you clear that, 1026 00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:09,240 you still have to go like 70 feet past it and then land in 1027 00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:11,200 like a 20 foot wide landing zone. 1028 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,400 And then it dog legs left, right and it's a low ceiling tunnel 1029 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,800 shot and it goes uphill and then it goes back downhill and it's a 1030 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,600 really like fast green and you can't see it. 1031 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,440 It's blind so besides that it's oh and there's OB on the left 1032 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,760 side of the landing zone like for if lefties fade out if they 1033 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,160 do clear the big on. The right side, yeah. 1034 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,800 What hole? What hole did you say it was? 1035 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,600 Which hole? It's new, it's new hole 5 and 1036 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,400 what what's wild is it's not unfair. 1037 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,120 It's very fair and very hard to birdie. 1038 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,360 But like, if you're left-handed, you just hate your life when you 1039 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,880 get to it, basically, unless you have Chris's forehand. 1040 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,280 Can you guys see that? Is that it? 1041 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,800 Yeah, yeah. Show that map. 1042 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,480 Show that map a little bit. 630 feet, par 4. 1043 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:58,080 You need 430 feet of kind of left to right and then fading 1044 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,800 back left off the tee to get to the tiny landing zone. 1045 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,160 So my plan is to play it for bogey, I think. 1046 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,800 Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's to carry and get up 1047 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,720 on just to the landing zone, not even the extra 80 feet you need 1048 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,680 to get to the actual landing zone. 1049 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:20,920 You probably got to carry 375 or so I would say uphill. 1050 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,640 Yeah, it's it's a really hard hole and it's very like anti 1051 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,280 lefty. It's another one of those holes 1052 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:34,600 that wouldn't exist if it was like mirrored, just because not 1053 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,200 a lot of people could throw that shot. 1054 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,600 And it's not. I find like. 1055 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,280 It's fair. Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's fair. 1056 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,560 But it's set up for, you know, like when you see it on 1057 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,840 coverage, you're going to be watching Gannon play it Ricky 1058 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,000 and they're just going to throw that 450 foot righty back in 1059 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,680 kind of flex shot their typical stock drive to get into that 1060 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,480 position. But if you're left-handed, like 1061 00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:01,200 you got to throw something that goes about 400 and then starts 1062 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,560 breaking left, which is really hard to do. 1063 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,440 Not unless. 404 hundred uphill. 400 uphill that breaks left leg. 1064 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,880 Yeah. And usually there's some wonky 1065 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,760 like crosswinds going up in there. 1066 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:20,800 So it makes it even even harder. It's I find on this course. 1067 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,080 That's why I'm actually, I'm taking today off. 1068 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,280 I'm just going to putt throw some up shots because I've been 1069 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,280 throwing so many four hands out there. 1070 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,920 Like the front 9 is all four hands for me and then the back 9 1071 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,600 evens out a little bit more. But I was like, I need to get my 1072 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,200 armor rests. I don't want it to fall off. 1073 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,600 That's crazy, I took today off too. 1074 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,920 Going to do some putting this evening but just just kind of 1075 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,240 chill and a lot of hard throws the last couple days. 1076 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,560 Yeah, I'm working today. Yeah, you weren't you always 1077 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,040 working? Taking it off bro. 1078 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,800 You know what's another hole that that you think it would 1079 00:52:52,800 --> 00:53:00,920 give you a challenge? I mean, as far as like really 1080 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,000 hard, I don't know. That one's definitely the 1081 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,880 hardest hole, but I think hole. What's a spine hole? 1082 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,880 Is that like hole 10? Hole 10. 1083 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,200 Yeah, hole 10s, pretty tough. And actually like halfway 1084 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,720 through the round yesterday, I was like, all right, I'm going 1085 00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:16,160 to throw backhands from here on out. 1086 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,560 And I threw a back end on that hole and got pretty lucky to get 1087 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,880 through the trees on the left. But I ended up birding it and I 1088 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,400 was like, I didn't think that was possible because if I hit a 1089 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,880 tree, I'm flying OB on the road so. 1090 00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:32,000 You said hole 10. Yeah, that one's that one's can. 1091 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,080 That one could be sketchy. I've thrown four hands that hit 1092 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,000 a tree and go on the green of hole 9. 1093 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,240 Yeah, it's a, it's a hole that's been on the course since it was 1094 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:43,240 third on the mountain, like a long time ago. 1095 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,280 It's a really, really good hole. It's just very hard to birdie, 1096 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,880 like a very difficult par 3. Yeah. 1097 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,320 Chris, I actually go, I go mid range off that hole and I try to 1098 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,800 park the red and have like a 45 footer blue if I want to run it 1099 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,120 or not because I for some reason can't throw that forehand on it. 1100 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,840 I always start low and it hits like the hill and like a skips 1101 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,440 to the right end of the trees. It's I just go mid. 1102 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,960 I just go mid, dude. Yeah, it's hard. 1103 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,280 I'm happy. If I get a birdie then it's like 1104 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,200 stoked. It's, it's on that spine. 1105 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,520 So there's always like wind, either like coming up the hill 1106 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,200 or like pushing across the fairway. 1107 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,960 Like it's very weird. And if you throw an errand shot, 1108 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:24,640 there's no telling where it could go and like what kind of 1109 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,120 position you could be in. So like just being in the 1110 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,960 fairway, even if you're 100 feet away is like pretty good for the 1111 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,960 most part, especially being a lefty. 1112 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,560 The line is is pretty tough for the lefties. 1113 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,880 I'd probably throw a deputy. Just throw putter off there, I'd 1114 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,520 be fine. I might try that tomorrow, yeah. 1115 00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:46,800 I think you might be right. Any other holes while we got 1116 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,280 this up that? Whole all 12 is great for US. 12 1117 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,040 is 12 is fun. That's like downhill, yeah. 1118 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,760 Big gold, just lefty, lefty bomb. 1119 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,520 We don't get very many of them. Very. 1120 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,240 Fun shot to throw. It's funny because like when we 1121 00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:09,480 do get these lefty shots, I mean, most people on tour have, 1122 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:14,080 you know, 400 foot forehand, you know, and sometimes a lot more. 1123 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,720 So like realistically, if you get your angles right, like 1124 00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:21,840 that's kind of all you need to be able to throw that shot. 1125 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:27,120 And so like it's a lefty hole, but it's like there's so much 1126 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,600 room. You can even throw a back in. 1127 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,240 Like I saw Chris Dickerson throw out the other day with a fairway 1128 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,680 and park it. And so like there's, there's 1129 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,920 room to maneuver even though it's like a lefty hole. 1130 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,520 I played with them, I played with him 2 days ago, Chris and 1131 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,200 he, he tried that same back end and he ended up almost hitting 1132 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,480 those porta potties away over to the left. 1133 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,640 That's what I like to hear. Hole hole 11 was a hole 1134 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,320 previously that you could go like mid range putter and they 1135 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,880 have made that quite a bit harder. 1136 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,560 It's a good change. I actually think all the changes 1137 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,120 like it's fair and they're good. You know, I was kind of dogging 1138 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,920 on hole 5 just because it's like a bad lefty hole, but it's not a 1139 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,800 bad hole and I don't think any of the changes are bad. 1140 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,720 I think they've done a good job. Like I actually feel good about 1141 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:17,000 this course because it's so difficult to bury that I don't 1142 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,880 feel like I have to shoot 12 under to keep up. 1143 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,240 Like I just get to go play my game, trying to play smart. 1144 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,560 My goal is to try to birdie or like par half the holes, try to 1145 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,400 birdie the other half and you know, by execute. 1146 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,800 Then I'm going to put together around. 1147 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,600 I like, but I'm a big fan of it. I like it. 1148 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,640 It's it's fair, it's there. There's a lot of OB on this one 1149 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,280 it seems like. This honestly, like on 11 like 1150 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:47,000 the what it's kind of showing it's the OB is not really in 1151 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,680 play until our green and like the the map that they have is 1152 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,280 like a little deceiving. I feel like our pin is like more 1153 00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,120 like a left. So we're kind of going through a 1154 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,760 different gap now. We used to just throw, you know, 1155 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,800 a straight shot 3:30 or so and then you throw like a little 1156 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,800 putter up over the hill and you'd have a putt. 1157 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,080 But now you got to kind of shoot a gap on the second shot. 1158 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,320 And that's if your drive is really good. 1159 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,880 So I, I think it's a good change. 1160 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,640 I agree with Zach, Like everything they've done has been 1161 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:26,000 awesome. Yeah, 13 is much more difficult, 1162 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,160 but like fair. It's like I thought the T sign 1163 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,360 on the course, right, it's like 480, but I'm not sure. 1164 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,760 But it's like it's just dead in front of you. 1165 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,960 You have to throw like a line drive through. 1166 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,000 I don't know, I think like 30 feet off the T there's like a 10 1167 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,360 foot wide gap. You got to hit that. 1168 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,440 And then after that it's still, it opens up a little, but very, 1169 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:46,920 very challenging. Part 3. 1170 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,240 Someone could to it and someone could take a 5 like you know? 1171 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,520 Well, then why did they have? They have two. 1172 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,560 They have the. Ones FPO. 1173 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,600 The ones FPO ones that's FPO with the red. 1174 00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,520 With the red. Yeah. 1175 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,240 They're playing our old par 4. OK, so it says 450. 1176 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,720 OK, it plays long. It's a tight it. 1177 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,920 Plays, it plays like all of 4:50 just because it's, yeah, it's a 1178 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,520 tight off the tee. So you have to, you don't have 1179 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,080 like a lot of room to maneuver, you know that 450 feet. 1180 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,640 So you really got to go straight 400 feet and land on a good 1181 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,760 angle to like skip up to the basket. 1182 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,680 If I can get inside of 40 feet I'll be pretty happy. 1183 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,720 Yeah, yeah, same. Hole 2 has a change as well, 1184 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:35,240 which I actually really like this change because the green is 1185 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:40,160 more accessible, but like it's easier to get to the basket for 1186 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,640 a putt. But where they have the basket 1187 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,480 is also much more dangerous with like a really steep slope. 1188 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,640 So I think it's like easier to get looks, but you're going to 1189 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,880 see more roll aways. It's kind of it's kind of 1190 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,760 devious. It's it's a good, it's a good 1191 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,440 spot. It's like right on the, the edge 1192 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,680 of one of those cliffs. Like they, they have a guy named 1193 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,880 Danny, I believe, who does all the, he's built all the benches 1194 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,640 and the steps and the boxes. He's built these boxes that they 1195 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,760 can put like on the the edges of these slopes. 1196 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,840 And then they kind of have the basket out on them so they can 1197 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,760 kind of get them more on the edge where kind of if you miss a 1198 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,200 putt low, you're going to roll away. 1199 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,880 You'll see. If you watch coverage, I 1200 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,120 guarantee you're going to see a roll away on hole 2 at some 1201 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,480 point. Really. 1202 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,520 Yeah, Yeah. And I'm talking about, yeah, 1203 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,680 100% BP back out into the fairway, you know, wanted to see 1204 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,120 Jamaican. I think it's out into the 1205 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,440 fairway. It might roll down it. 1206 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,960 So. It's a great change because old 1207 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,080 hole 2, you were when you were in the fairway throwing to the 1208 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,120 basket, you couldn't even see the basket. 1209 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,040 And so sometimes it would be good, but other times it would 1210 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:47,200 be so poor because it was such like a a weird awkward shot that 1211 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,040 then people would just lay up and you get an easy par. 1212 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,560 But now a lot more people are going to have birdie chances, 1213 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,720 but there's going to be a lot more like, do I run this? 1214 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,760 Do I not? And you could see some bad 1215 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,920 things happen. So I think the score spread will 1216 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,640 be a little a little better and I think it's a better hole. 1217 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,400 Yeah, I think players in general are very greedy when it comes to 1218 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,560 the putting green. Like they run everything now and 1219 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,640 that will that will make that what you'll just see a lot of 1220 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,920 roll ways now because either got to cash the putt or air ball at 1221 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,880 long. But then Chris, I believe 1222 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,920 there's like a little bit of flat lamb behind it, but then it 1223 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,840 kind of drops off behind as well, right. 1224 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,720 Yeah, it's a. Little yeah, there's not. 1225 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,200 If you throw a perfect shot, you can park it, but other than that 1226 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,400 you're going to have at least 15/20/25 feet. 1227 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,600 So it's it'll be tricky, but I think it's great. 1228 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,240 It's good. I agree with everything they. 1229 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,720 Say right, You too, Alex. What was that? 1230 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,720 You agree with everything they say, right? 1231 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,560 Of course. 100% Yep. Yep. 1232 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,240 Yeah. And I would everything you, all 1233 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,960 the plays you're talking about, I, I would agree. 1234 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,480 I might make a couple adjustments, but we'll talk 1235 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:55,760 about that. Offline, yeah, that's fair. 1236 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,040 I'm going to, I'm going to see if I got a deputy in the car and 1237 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,680 put. That Yeah, awesome. 1238 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,760 Well, I appreciate you guys going over that because I think 1239 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,640 it's really cool that to listen to you guys kind of dissect the 1240 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,080 course and figure out what you're going to do. 1241 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,640 So it's going to be exciting because it's the first, first 1242 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,840 big, big event with the disco approach. 1243 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,880 Your coverage of the season. Chris, how are you now? 1244 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,400 You're not like some of the people, some of the people, some 1245 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,600 other players where you know, you're trying. 1246 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,520 Yeah, you're different. You're so different. 1247 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,200 You're trying out new disks. You're trying out disks that you 1248 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,840 were once familiar with. How? 1249 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:33,280 How's that going? Man, it's been, it's been 1250 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,680 awesome, just like getting especially like getting the 1251 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,680 felons back of my hand and just like knowing that it's going to 1252 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,280 come out so clean and I can just manipulate it and put it on any 1253 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,840 line I want and having like complete confidence in that has 1254 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,560 been awesome. And it's fun too because like 1255 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,240 I'm trying out a bunch of defenders, like people sent me, 1256 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,240 you know, 10-15 defenders. So I'm trying out a million 1257 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,920 different ones trying to figure out like what's flippy, what's 1258 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,440 overstable? And but my bags coming along 1259 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:11,320 pretty well. And I'm super excited to play on 1260 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,560 Friday and like get it started and see what I can do. 1261 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:19,040 And like the judge to like it's I just throw the putt and it 1262 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,800 goes in. It's like I don't even have to 1263 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,240 really try. So it, it's feeling really, 1264 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:27,200 really good. And yeah, I'm super excited 1265 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,640 about it. And I'm excited to get my 1266 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,520 Clemenade signature bag. My buddy's sending me one so. 1267 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,600 Yeah, that's awesome. Any new new disc you're trying 1268 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,400 out, Zach, for the Supreme Flight Open? 1269 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:44,600 Let's see, anything new that I wasn't bagging last year? 1270 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,040 I don't think so. I'm trying to think for this 1271 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,600 course in particular. I kind of yeah, patrol for some 1272 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,240 of those yeah, headwind mid range shots. 1273 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,240 I love yeah also do big hyzer shots. 1274 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,080 Max weight breakout is clutch on all three. 1275 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:06,120 Let me tell you no kind of like a lot of mids and a lot of four 1276 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,560 hands. And then there's a couple of 1277 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,160 like great lefty holes, like, like he said, 1218 is a very fun 1278 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,960 lefty hole. I will be, I'll say, like as a 1279 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,360 righty, if I did have a forehand, that would be 1280 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,760 terrifying to throw if it was windy like that would be tough, 1281 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,240 yeah. What are you trying new just 1282 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,840 this year, Alex? I don't know if you want to call 1283 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,440 it a new one, but it the one that I've gotten the most 1284 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,280 excited about is the new retooled Emac Truth. 1285 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:41,360 Yeah, because I got 1 and it's the Emac Truth I've always 1286 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:42,880 wanted. Yeah. 1287 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,520 I think the new ones are. Better did you get they retooled 1288 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,160 the emac truth again? Yeah, Eric really likes it. 1289 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,680 You might always try try the the we have an orbit orbit moonshine 1290 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,560 one with the walleye fish because that one's sold out. 1291 01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,800 They're in a really pretty plastic too. 1292 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:04,120 Like, yeah, they're good. They've got the the fusion ones, 1293 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,480 the missing piece. Stamps. 1294 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,000 What I got in my bed, that's one of the ones I got and I've been 1295 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,800 pretty good. Pretty nice. 1296 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,080 All right, gentlemen. Well, that's all the time we 1297 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,000 have for this episode. Appreciate you hopping on, 1298 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,440 talking about a few disc golf topics and then of course, 1299 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:20,880 talking about the upcoming Supreme Flight. 1300 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:25,800 Looking forward to see you guys out there performing and yeah, 1301 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,040 that's all I got. So appreciate you guys. 1302 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,240 We thanks for having us on Babo. All right, take care.