Hey everybody, welcome to this episode of the Disc Golf Answer
Man. I'm Bobby, Cool Daddy, Slick
Breeze and have with me a special guest, Nathan from
Another Round Disc Golf. Now let me tell you a little bit
of back story of How I Met Nate. When I got back to Dynamic
Discs, I started taking a deep dive into social media like I've
been telling you guys, and the Fungi Podcast was one of the
first disc golf podcast I came across.
And I was like, I love that these guys are just casual, just
chill talking about disc golf and content creation because all
of them do content creation on the podcast.
And so I even commented on a couple of their videos and they
had me on their show and I had a great time.
And then I just saw Nate at Disc East and I was like, I got to
get you on the show so I can learn more about you.
So how are you doing today, Nate?
Coolest of daddies, slickest of breeze.
It's a pleasure to be here. I'm I'm doing well, yeah.
I think back to Fonzie because knowing I was going to be on
this podcast, I, I remember that you would like comment on some
of our things and I figured it would come up.
And I think back to early on in that podcast, I think in the
first episode, so that those that don't know it's a podcast,
Fonzie, it's me, my, me and myself, me, J Millie and Ben,
Ben Kenny. So Ben does like the Expo, you
know, he's on like staggered stance, stuff like that.
J Millie's like, hey, yeah, I have all these subscribers and I
put out all this awesome YouTube content.
And that was a point that I was like, yeah, I just put out like
videos on Instagram and I was just making my own stuff.
I think I had like 3000 followers on Instagram.
So the, the imposter syndrome was very strong.
Hey, yeah, happy to be here. I get that impossible.
We'll get into that a little bit later.
So just for the few people that hadn't heard of you or what you
got going on, tell us a little bit about your your disc golf
story. My disc golf story.
So perfect timing. January of 2020, my
father-in-law, he goes down to hang out with his brother.
He lives in Clearwater, FL so like right next to Cliff
Stevens. And those that don't know, Cliff
Stevens is Ken Climo, AKA Kenneth Columbus's home course.
So perfect place. He goes down there, plays and
that man comes back on a mission and he's like, I need to show
you guys all of this. So classic.
He he shows us and I'm like, yeah, I don't really care.
This is lame. For like the first year I would
still go plagues. It was like an Ave. to hang out
with everyone, get outside 'cause like I just love going
outside and like doing that more so.
And then finally I like got the bug as everyone does.
And then in 20/20/20, 3 or 2024, I think it was like the very top
of the new year. I was like I was seeing at the
time it was Mr. and Mrs. Bogey. Now another round.
Twin Cities. So if anyone follows them on
Instagram, I got I found that account and I just became
absolutely obsessed with the storytelling that Nick was doing
with that account. It just really spoke to what I
cared about disc golf. Just the hanging out with your
buddies on like a summer night and just throwing shots that
you're laughing at. So I just went through and was
watching every every single thing that he was posting.
And I was like, I'm just going to buy the most recent iPhone
that I can with the best camera setup.
Well, like, best camera settings on the phone and I was like, I'm
just going to send it and see what happens.
So then I did that for about a year or so.
And then that's when Daddy Joe Joseph Phillips contacted me.
He contacted me and was like, hey, what if we like, started
doing some stuff together? But yeah.
And that, that blew me away. Fast forward like a year and a
half and it became a full time position and I've been living
down here in Charlotte with my wife for about 5 months now and
this is I left my day job for this.
Nate, tell us a little bit about how you actually got started in
actually just not even disc golf media, but like what made you
even want to start creating content at all?
Well. I ended up going to school to
work in like biology. So for the my job before this, I
bet no one would be able to guess it.
I have said it on like podcast and told people before.
So I was the assistant deer and moose biologist for the state of
Connecticut. That's right.
So the assistant deer and moose biologist for the state of
Connecticut. So I did a lot of deer disease
related work and before that I did like 4 years of working with
waterfowl. I love to do, I love doing that,
but it's like government work. And in that that type of
environment, there will always be people that are either doing
exactly what's expected, go above and beyond or do nothing.
And unfortunately in that setting, at least where I
worked, everyone was kind of treated the same.
So a lot of people that would come in super gung ho over time
would get like, they'd find themselves very jaded and would
just stop doing like a lot of work.
And that's like a very intrinsic value that my parents put in me.
Like I just love to work hard on things and give my best effort
that I possibly can. And it started to become a
downer. The thing that obviously I went
to school for was kind of just like taking enjoyment away from
me a little bit, like sometimes when I'd go to the office.
So I wanted something in my free time that I could, that could
just be me, like my own and like I didn't have to depend on other
people. I could just like this fun
outlet that I could make dumb jokes or just express my
enjoyment of disc golf. So yeah, like back in that 2024
era of me like buying that phone and starting to make disc golf
content, I saw at least at the time, there wasn't really like a
lot of, I guess, like funny accounts like making disc golf
content. Like if you go back on my
personal account, like that's pretty much the majority of
stuff that I, I used to do. And I, yeah, I mean, I know like
real prior experience making videos or anything.
So the fact that I'm here is kind of bizarre.
And it just shows like if you want to make a transition in
your life, I think it seems overwhelming, but you just got
to just send it and then hope that it works out and don't
think twice about it. Because I was working my day job
and then by the time I, I got, I didn't even say what my title
is, I guess with another round. So I do like social media,
social media editing, camera work, graphic design, stamps,
pretty much any visual representation of another round
is probably done by me at least for the last like 2 years,
probably 95% of it. And.
What else? Yeah, What I'm going to say is
that you had mentioned something about at the job where it felt
like even though you were a hard worker, you didn't seem to get
rewarded. Right.
And and I love I I'm the kind of the same way.
It's like I want to put my all into it.
And so I like having the reward of either advancing or but what
I love about content creation on your own is that you get that
feedback, right? If you put something into it and
you and people like it, they're going to comment or like it or
share it or what not. And so I could see how that
would appeal to you. Like if I put a lot more a lot
of effort into my videos and making funny videos, people are
going to respond and I'll get that feedback.
As as you said, in that job, you really need to get much feedback
no matter how much work you put into it.
So I can see how this could be an appeal to you.
Yeah, completely. I, it sounds like I've had like
all these different things, but it it has, my life hasn't been
that crazy. It's just like that was my day
job. And the thing that I did in my
free time was before doing that was doing music.
So if anyone knows, like hardcore or metal core bands, I
used to dude, I would record bands or like I would help
record bands. I would, we like toured some
stuff a little bit. I would help like write music
and that was my thing. But if anyone has ever been a
part of like being in a band, you're essentially in a
relationship with like three or four other people.
So the fact that any band exists is kind of a miracle because you
all have to agree simultaneously on on certain things.
And it was it was an awesome experience, don't get me wrong,
but being able to do things in my whenever I had free time as
opposed to like when everyone else had free time and that was
awesome. That made it like a lot more fun
for sure. I was in some, again, some
similar, it was a rap group at the church I went to and I would
produce some of the beats for them and I would find songs for
them to sample and stuff like that.
So but yeah, you definitely there.
It was only the two guys and then me for a little bit and
then I decided not to do it anymore.
And then one of the guys joined the Army and stuff.
So but yeah, there's it is like being in a relationship because
you have to get along with each other.
Even though you get excited about the creation process, once
you start doing it over and over again, then you start seeing
some people like, no, I want this sound.
No, I think this sounds better. So yeah, I can see that for
sure. Now you mentioned that you you,
you know, you had no experience. So how did you gain that
experience? How did you go from like, I just
want to creative outlet. I've never made videos before.
How did you go to start creating videos?
How did did you teach yourself via YouTube or what was that
path? No, I didn't.
I didn't really teach myself a single thing, or rather I didn't
like go look up things. I'm more so just it was like,
hey, I'm going to buy the iPhone.
Cool. That will be the exclusive thing
that I'm basing all of my knowledge off of because it's
it's good enough And like obviously I can use it for other
things. And then for editing software.
I think at this point, I know myself and Joe get a lot of
questions about editing software to use.
Just just use any of them or even people.
People back in the day, would I say back in the day, it was like
a year and a half ago, they'd be like, what?
What's your camera setup? It looks unreal.
And it's like brother iPhone it iPhone has its limitations, but
you can make iPhone look pretty Dang good.
And I think at the end of the day, the camera that you choose
to use is pretty much just as long as it's good enough.
It's a vessel for you to be able to share your content and relate
with other people. And I think that's where a lot
of people may get caught up is like, and they all come from a
good place. But yeah, just download
whatever's editing software, start with whatever that's free.
Do that because you can find a ton of workarounds even with
like the limited software that you choose.
Like you don't have to dive straight into Da Vinci because I
know that's free. And people like Josh AKA J
Millie, every time I bring up J Millie or I call him Josh
personally, but I have to like also specify like J Millie.
I know that's what he recommends, but if you have no
idea what you're doing, that can be very overwhelming.
But. Oh, I tried Da Vinci I and I've
I've done I, I've started on Windows Movie Maker bat way back
in the day. I did that and then iMovie, the
more very basic one for Apple and then Final Cut Pro 7 and
then 10 for a little bit. And then I've, you know, finally
got into Premiere Pro. And then I tried Da Vinci one
time and I was like, this is stupid.
I don't yeah, I'm like, where's the timeline?
Where is this? Where's that?
And it's like, and someone was like, well, you just got to
learn it. Once you learn, I don't want to.
Yeah. So you'll figure out limitations
as you you go, but then that's when you probably like step up
and try something else. But for a good 2-3 years, just
stick with that and you'll you'll be surprised how much you
learn. Yeah.
So, so when it came to media creation, so it's, if I'm
understanding you right, so you just did fun stuff and then it
became disc golf stuff. You didn't do it.
You didn't do media for any other weddings, friends or
anything like that? No, not a single thing.
And I think that's where that's where a lot of that imposter
syndrome I think came from because I had no idea what I was
doing. And not that I don't know what
I'm doing now. I finally feel like I'm in a
secure place and I'm very proud of the journey that I've taken
to get here and love what I'm just all the things that I get
to make and do. But I like, let me put this into
perspective. I started working for another
round by making 95% of the things that I put out, whether
it was graphics or videos or really anything I did on my
phone, I did on my phone. I would edit on my phone, record
on my phone. So just do that until you're
like, you know what? I think it's time for me to make
the next step. Yeah.
So, OK. So how long you been full time
in another round? I moved down here the very tail
end of August. But you were doing, you've been
doing a part time before that for another year.
And a half part time. Yeah.
And so I guess my question is what, what did you start doing
just part time for them? What what it?
What was a daily like workload for you as far as them doing
part time? Yeah.
So what that's, that's a great question because I don't know if
I've talked about this from all in one concise spot.
So I did 1 reel a day at that point.
That was just like a nice easy spot for me to start.
If Joe went out and he had like special announcements for store
openings, he'd be like, hey, I've got all this footage, can I
send it to you? And I'd be like, boom, yeah, in
a couple hours have this all this jumbled mess put it
together, have it ready for 8:00 PM.
So I'd had like the night slot and I will never forget the
first video that I ever did. And if anyone wants to go back
and find it, they're more than welcome to it's two years ago
was Jake Wolf throwing at OTB open.
And I mean, I turned it into like a backyard baseball sort of
thing. Like I pretty much at that time
I, I was like, so I had so much pride in my ability to like,
edit and do these crazy edits. Like I was trying way too hard.
Like I needed someone to like pat me on the back and be like,
it's OK. Like you're enough.
Like you don't need to try, try super hard, but that's that's
what I end up doing. Eventually that turned into two
times a day and I would make graphics for maybe like there
was a disk that was dropping that day.
So I'd put that on the story or somehow put it into a reel.
Now the current workload is I do three reels a day on YouTube and
Instagram and then I do a YouTube video every two to three
days and e-mail graphics stamps. Those are kind of they're not
really like a day-to-day thing. It's just as needed sort of
basis, but. So let's go back to though when
you went from part time to full time was that I think you may
maybe mention a little bit at the beginning, but like how did
that conversation go with Joseph when it said, OK, it's time to
go full time? Terrifying.
I mean, my entire life, I've grown up in Connecticut and done
the thing that I went to school for, you know, like the, this is
what your parents want you to do.
And I did it and of course I chose what I wanted to do.
But it's, you know, my, my wife is from the same area and we've
never lived anywhere else like another state, never mind moving
12 hours South. And so the, the conversation
ended up being asking if like that's a future that would ever
he could see. And he said some something to
the effect of I don't want you. Like, of course it is.
I just don't want you to feel like you have to move down here
for the job sake or for our sake.
So there was a lot of conversations with like my
family and obviously making sure that I'd like make enough money
that we could survive and like, it made sense to to do the move.
But yeah, it ended up working out and I'm, I'm very happy I'm
here. I I would be lying if I said
that I I wasn't terrified moving down.
Sure. How long did it take like from
the from the the moment of this could be a thing to like let's
do this. Is there a long time span?
Are we talking like weeks, months or?
No, it was it was probably a couple weeks, a couple weeks
ago. I said this before we started
the podcast to to Bobby. Some people are like very much
into planning. I remember in high school you
would talk to kids that are going to college.
They're like, I know what college I'm going to.
I know what I'm going to grow up and be.
I know the age that I'm going to do XY and Z.
And I never knew those things. And that's why going into
college, like I went to it, but I didn't really.
I would. I always wished I had other
things that I was doing. I'm like, man, I just want
something more out of what I'm doing.
They're just like being at school and I'm grateful I did
it, don't get me wrong. But yeah, I'm very happy with
where I've somehow added up. Just just send it I guess is the
point that I'm getting to I. Love it now.
Has has media creation changed for you since going full time?
Because I remember my like when I was part time, I would work a
full time job at a credit union and then I'd go home and I was
excited because like this was what I was excited.
This is what I wanted to do, right?
And I would get, I would get home, I'd eat dinner and then
about 6:00 I'd be editing dynamic diss videos for 4-5
hours, right? Staying up way too late.
And my wife would be like, you know, you're staying up too
late. And I'm like, no, I want to make
this a thing. I want to.
And then now it's a thing. Now it's what you have to think
about when you go. And it sounds exciting, but has
it changed the way you approach content at all?
When I made content for my for myself, it was pretty much I
would just go out on the disc golf course and play and it's
almost like the content would write itself.
Now everything is, it's not scripted, but I am thinking
ahead like an entire week. So now I, I, I still love, I, I
love making all this stuff. It's more so just the biggest
issue is time management. Because in a, a job like this,
you, it could be very easy to blur the lines between personal
time and working time. Especially because I'm, I'm
posting all throughout the day. Like I probably make the 1st
post 11:12 AM Eastern Standard Time or PM Eastern Standard Time
and then maybe like 9:00 PM at the latest Eastern Standard
Time. So I'm going to be doing a
couple of those things at night. And then you're like, well,
maybe I could work on the e-mail tomorrow, like start getting
some graphics done. And it's like, brother, you're
also a husband and you should probably check in with your
family, make time with friends. And I think at first that was
because moving down here, like, I want to make sure these guys
feel like they are getting, I'll just say like their money's
worth out of it. Because, you know, it's, I'm
another person that's on the day-to-day like they're giving
money. So I'm like, OK, I like, really
have to like show myself. And they're like, yeah, take a
step back because you could burn yourself out super easily.
And now I've, I've found like a very good rhythm with
everything. So it, it keeps my, my enjoyment
of, of making content for sure, so that I'm just not like 24/7
disc golf. Tell me what it what is your
process like? How do you go from we need?
Well, I'm thinking of me because it's like we have releases, but
you guys talk about releases, right?
You just have all the brands. So how do you go from Hey Nate,
we're going to have these discs come out on this day.
How do you go from that being told that this is coming out to
now I'm going to make either a long form or short form video?
What's kind of your process? Well, we have a calendar that
shows the releases for the entire month that we have to
kind of prep for. And I just have like an entire
folder on my phone that probably has probably just over 100
different ideas on it that I just randomly come up with.
I don't usually, I rarely take time to just sit down and be
like, hey, what's a good idea? They just kind of pop up,
especially if I'm thinking of disc golf all the time.
I'm like, man, why has no one done this yet?
So I'll write that down and put it away for like a couple weeks
from then. From then, it's pretty much just
communicating with Joe. Or if anyone's been following
the another on YouTube channel, that's been like a really big
thing that I've been pushing since October.
And we have on Austin Turner a lot of the time.
So I'm communicating with him as well.
Him and Joe see what they say. And pretty much pretty much
that. Like I, I for the person that
doesn't plan like a a lot, I'd find myself now like I have to
write things down just because of the sheer number of things
that are going on. So I'll come up with an idea
like today, perfect example, Joe and I go out to record.
We just got like a bunch of snow in Charlotte, but we want to
show off some like some recent drops that just came out and
it's like, what's the concept for the video?
And just on the spot you come up with it.
So you got to be. It's like boom, perfect time to
reference that folder of ideas, but no active time usually.
Yeah. Do you have any plans for
something that's maybe a little more structured?
Not that those aren't structured, but you know what
I'm saying? A little more structured, a
little more produced as far as like, storytelling.
For sure. Yeah, I have.
That's going to be like the, the biggest thing that we're going
to do coming up is lately we do a lot of I guess like challenge
style disc golf videos because those tend to be the easiest in
terms of like you just go out there and like we kind of just
do it. I guess like you don't really
have to rehearse anything. But that's, I think that's going
to be a big part of where I come in.
And like a lot of these things because I, we've talked a lot
about me being having more of a presence on the channel instead
of me just kind of the guy that's doing all the behind the
scenes stuff. And I'll be doing a lot more
storytelling related things. Are you excited about that or
does that make you nervous to be in front of the camera more?
No, no, like I, I love being in front of the camera.
I just don't find myself doing it nearly as much.
Like any time that I, I've done like a couple things with Joe,
like I'll go out and people are like, is he really actually good
or is he just like throwing 1000 shots and the man is disgusting
at disc golf. He's so automatic and good.
Like he just sets up a camera boom does it.
And like I personally, like I, I can't do that.
Like just turn it on all of a sudden.
So I'm definitely I can focus on my job way easier.
Definitely like a giant group of people.
If I'm just recording, I know what I have to do, make it the
best that I can. But that's definitely going to
be a part of the the growth of, you know, the next couple of
years. You mentioned three reels a day.
What do you have like categories that you say, OK, I this is, I'm
going to do category A, category B, category C, or is it like I'm
just going to make sure I have three done?
I don't know where I'm going to get the idea from.
So me personally, day-to-day, I do occasionally have certain
things that I will maybe are scripted or things that I'm
trying to get done if there's like a release, but otherwise
it's what do I have that's saved on my phone that I could just,
or my computer just readily like scan through.
I, I feel like a, a big skill of mine and maybe anyone else
that's trying to get into like a fill a similar role or do
content creation is just to like, maybe not everything turns
out exactly how you want it to, like when you're going to
record. But if you can take like a a
little moment and turn it into something through the power of
editing or coming up with an idea like that is such a huge
strength. So I'll go through and maybe
it's like, I don't know, Joe throws like a bad shot.
It's like, OK, how can I turn this into something funny or
whatever? You just have to, I mean,
creativity is your for sure your best friend and not just to like
throw a shot. Oh, you're parked.
Oh, here's an ace. Here's a so yeah, just whatever,
whatever I got. And then next day record.
Maybe there's a cool moment in there.
How long is that something that you're doing right now to kind
of build some momentum with the platforms?
Or is that your plan? Like I'm going to have 3 rules a
day until my fingers fall off. No, I that's a perpetual.
I mean, that's my everyday as I have three a day.
So yeah, forever, forever and always.
Maybe occasionally there'll be like a few more, but three a day
is the minimum. And it is.
I still think back to, like when I was doing one a day and like,
that was my pinnacle. And like, this needs to be the
most perfect, pristine thing I've ever made.
And now it's like I'm doing 3A day plus the other stuff.
And I'm like, how was I? Like, what was I doing with my
time management previously? Like it.
I just like, watch TV, but yeah. Oh, oh, analytics.
I know this might be too technical for some people, but
for if you're listening and this is something you want to do,
this is good information. So in the analytics, when you
went from one reel to the three reels, did you notice that the
the three reels kind of compete with each other for that day?
Or how did you kind of work that out?
Or was you, were you just kind of like, you know, I'm going to
post 3 so that people are just slammed with content?
Well, this is just what Another Round has done previous to me
working for them. And I feel like I might have
kind of a unique perspective on that because before working in
disc golf, I was a fan of like Dynamic.
I was a fan of Another Round as I looked up to all these things.
So I feel like I was able to look at stuff that people were
putting out and being like, man, I wish they did these things.
And I try to think back to those because I always remember, like
I wanted any little tidbit of like, now there are things that
I'm sure are normal to me that I'm like, people would love to
see this sort of stuff. Yeah, three reels a day.
It's just working up to that, right?
That was the question. Well, it was more on the
analytic, analytic side. Like, do you feel that putting
out so many reels a day? The, the real, the like, in my
mind, I think of, OK, you put something out at 11 AM, then you
put something out at 5:00 PM, then you put something out at
11:00 PM. Is the thing you put out at 5:00
PM competing with the thing you put out at 11 AM for people's
attention? Or is that even part of the what
you look at as far as analytics? No, I think that's, yeah, that's
a really good question. No, I think it's the short
answer. I don't think they're competing
for one another. I think there's a fine line that
you'll find if you are posting multiple times a day, if you're
posting. So like we OK, we post three
times a day. So that's as long as they're
like an hour or two apart. Like I'd say like over 2 hours
apart, you're probably fine. Like just just send it and
you're not going to like alienate your audience.
I think you can go in the opposite direction though.
If you're posting like 10 times a day or something, I think
people are going to start getting annoyed that they're
seeing you so often in their feed.
But as long as you can say like a consistent part where people
are viewing the things that you're doing, I think that's
probably a good thing. And you're putting out multiple
chances to have something that does well, like a reel or short
that gets like a lot of views and then helps your account
overall. Yeah, and it feels like like as
I asked a question and and you talk, is that putting out the
three reels, even though you're I'm thinking competing each
other? We're we're all just really
competing, not just with other disc golf channels.
We're competing with like the stupid meme that just got, you
know, when popular someone falling the you know, the now I
see on Facebook the character meme that's now being put out
everywhere. So in other words, or whatever
Nike puts out or whatever you know Pepsi puts out, we're also
competing for because we're basically competing for people's
attention. So I get 3.
I could see where the three reels kind of gives you an edge
because you're like, I'm going to put three votes out there. 3
possibilities of getting your attention rather than just the
one possibility of getting their attention.
Yeah, right. And there's, there's multiple
ways of, of doing stuff. Like you look at again, J
Millie, he's putting out one reel a day that he is more like
one piece of content a day that is maybe like, let's, let's say
more highly curated. I guess where he's, he's like
very meticulous with like the edit and stuff like that.
Not to say that I'm not doing that, but it just, it just
depends day-to-day, like which, which things I'm putting out.
Like maybe the thing that I put out at noon, it kind of was a
flop. And it's like, man, it can be
really easy to get down on yourself.
And it's like just wait until 5:00 PM, man.
Just wait until 5:00 PM. Don't beat yourself up too much
about it and just to think about the next thing.
So that's a good question about quality.
And I think I asked you that because I recently had a meeting
with our brand team and we have a couple of the creative guys
that are part of the meeting and they always they're like, Hey,
Bobby, could could you? We do and hope maybe I hopefully
don't listen to this and get mad at me, but they're like, Hey,
can you maybe have us proofread some of your videos and stuff
like that, that we're not going to give you any kind of
direction on creativity, but maybe like if a word's
misspelled or something like that, maybe we can kind of catch
that. And I'm like, man, but I don't
want to slow down the process, right?
So I guess my question is like when we have J Millie where he
spends a lot of time, you got a lot of edits.
It looks great. But then sometimes I'm like, I
just want to get stuff out there, right?
I want something out there to captors, people's attention.
What's kind of your philosophy on that as far as I guess to
break it down, simple terms of quality over quantity?
For sure. So naturally I'm a perfectionist
and I think that when I started making content like I talked a
little bit about earlier, I really focused a lot on just
trying to show off my editing skills and do all these way over
the top 2 meticulous edits. And it's not like I saw any
crazy growth, not that that should be your focus for
creating content because I, I just, I loved making it.
You just have to find the balance that makes you feel good
about yourself at the end of the day, I guess the best way to say
it, So you're balancing what you enjoy with what your audience is
enjoying as well. So to transition away, because
the first few things that I made for another round, maybe I would
take all this time to do an insane edit and it would just
get utterly blanked. No one cared.
And you're like, man, that is painful.
But again, the audience will always tell you if they're
enjoying something or not. And it can be easy to be like,
man, they just don't get it. Like they just don't.
And it's like, just try other stuff.
You can still make total content even if I'm not.
So yeah, point I'm getting to is like trying to meld what I did
with what another Round did because Joe's was very, and I
mean this in the best way possible, like bare bones, just
film himself with an iPhone and like Ace and the IT factor of
what he's doing comes through to the viewer.
So I'm pretty much just like trying to lightly edit things
that don't get in the way of what is happening in the video,
try to let the video shine, but things that elevate it and be
like, oh, that was kind of clean.
I guess it's kind of the best way I can say it.
But yeah, it's it's different for everyone.
Just mess around with stuff, edit something heavily, edit
something a little bit and just see what what you're liking.
So. What?
What else do you do? What else does Nate do when he's
not editing disc golf? When he's not thinking disc
golf. When I'm not doing disc golf
right now, well, I like to cook a lot.
I I do a lot of cooking at home and some of the another round
boys also like to cook. So it's fun to talk with those
guys about that big into. Talking like grilling or like
fancy meals? What do we mean when we say
cooking? What do you mean?
Yeah, it's like a balance of stuff, just like making like a
pot roast. Like we got snow down here in
Charlotte and it's like nothing like for some people, they're
exactly like you laughed. And I know you don't mean it in
like a bad way. It's just like, it's just like
for me, I'm so stoked on that pot roast and making one that
people eat it in their face. Just I see them melt or like,
yeah, making like a chicken pot pie.
I'm just stoked. I'm trying to make food as good
as I can. Like I was very lucky growing
up. My mom is an incredible chef and
this EI got to stay up in New England for like 5 days for my
birthday and my mom made me like prime rib.
I just want to aspire to be like that, you know what I mean?
Also like go out to hockey with the Another Round boys love to
go watch hockey. Otherwise, like like I mentioned
before, I used to do a lot of music and maybe occasionally
you'll see me do some like guitar stuff on the Another
Round account, but it's very very rare now that I play guitar
but would like to do a little bit more moving forward.
I know I'm kind of bouncing around with these things,
popping my head at the disk E, There was the content creator
panel, right? And I asked that question and I
want to get your feedback on it as well.
Here is that I noticed this is something I noticed and there's
this in my mind, it's kind of a controversial, not a
controversial topic, but I know some people probably don't care.
But I noticed that the players that had tables set up, they had
crowds there and they had people talking to him, but the content
creators had the same amount, if not more of a crowd around them,
right? And then even MVP, you know, MVP
had the huge line, but there was a lot of people wanting to talk
to Simon. Now, Simon's kind of that
outlier. He's kind of both he's that, you
know, content creator and and disc golfer.
So he's kind of maybe not even part of the talks.
But what are your thoughts on the word influencer gets kind of
overused, but what are your thoughts on that as far as how
we have these content creators that are decent at disc golf,
Some of them aren't that great at disc golf, but they're good
at telling a story and creating content and that's what people
consume. What are your thoughts on the
balance of who influences people to buy particular discs?
I think people just want to, when they consume content, they
just want to be entertained and they just want to relate to
people. I think that's why we're seeing
this weird shift right now with like pro disc golf and like
you're saying, you, you have these again, influencers, I
guess the word we'll use where so many people are like buying
out all their discs, like they do a custom disc and it's like
boom, they're gone. Or like some people are able to
make it their full time job. I think we're just, that's just
kind of going to be the future of disc golf for now because you
would see like some pros that maybe finished like 70th place
and maybe they're do it like awesome people and they have
like a cool contract, but maybe you're not really hearing much
about it. So maybe investing your money in
some of these content creators that are getting 10s to hundreds
of thousands of viewers. Way more people are going to be
able to not only see their personality, but just like get a
feel for who they are through every single video.
And then they're they're rooting for that person, ideally after
multiple things. Kind of a good example like you
mentioned, Simon right now. So for another round, we brought
Austin Turner down to or up to disk E rather.
And he's kind of finding he's like, I love doing this YouTube
stuff. And it was very cool because I
think a lot of people, they would look at him previously and
just be like, I think like that guy's kind of a jerk or like
they just didn't really know who he was.
And now they're finding through the YouTube stuff that he is
just one of the funniest people in disc golf, like bar none.
And they would come up and just be gassing that dude up so many
times. And it was, it was the coolest
thing ever to be because to a certain extent, like I'm kind of
Austin Turner's personal editor at this point.
Like all the stuff that I'm doing, like, like he made the,
like top team for like his manufacturer.
And it's like, it's a team effort, man.
So yeah, it's it's cool to see, Yeah.
That's cool. It is interesting to see and and
the content marketing not I mean just not even disc golf in in
any industry. Content marketing is still
looking to be a billion dollar business.
More and more people are going to look less and less to the
brands and more and more to people, authentic people
actually using the product. Yeah.
So yeah, it's just going to grow, get bigger and bigger.
What what do you got going on as far as 2026?
Is any big plans? You kind of said, you know, we
talked about the YouTube long form and more storytelling.
Anything else that you got going on as far as 2026?
We have a lot of very crazy things in 2026 that we're going
to be doing that unfortunately I can't really talk about, but a
lot of them are going to be content related for YouTube
because like I said, that's the the big push for us right now
and it's been a ton of fun. Something that I can talk about.
I think I can share that we're going to be doing a podcast.
Maybe I mentioned that at the top of this episode doing some
podcasts for another round. So keep keep an ear out for that
is. There going to be like an on
location type thing or? Well, that's, that's kind of the
discussion right now. There's essentially 3 different
podcasts that they want to do. And it's like, if I have three
podcasts on top of what I'm currently doing, I, I'll end up
in the hospital Guys like I, I don't think I could do it.
So it's kind of figuring out like what's a happy medium of
like, what can we share all on a single platform, at least to
start? Yeah.
So, but yeah, working with some some pretty big people, some
cool discs coming out and just excited to do more and more
storytelling. What's something that you want
anybody who watches you another round funsie or anything like
what's something that maybe people don't understand what it
takes to do all that? Maybe a misconception?
Bobby, you're asking, you're asking the good questions.
So people, it always comes from a good place, but people will
reach out on the another round account asking Joe if he wants
to like yo, like let's just go play.
And I don't know if people understand the level of work
that is required to do all this, like all the content combined
like it is. It's not even just a full time
job. The fact that Joe did this
before I even started helping him, I don't know.
I don't know how he it's just not possible.
I want viewers and listeners to understand that.
So maybe just like the workload, because obviously it's just us
playing disc golf and that is cool and it's, we're all
incredibly grateful to do that. But you still got to stay
consistent in the same way that like you work out or eat
healthy, like mate, there will always be times that you don't
want to do things, but you still, you go do it because at
the end of the day, you do it and you're like, I'm so glad
that I did that. And crazy things happen and
you're like, man, I'm very proud of myself.
Stay consistent. You see results, you it's always
gratifying in one way or another.
So yeah, just stick with it. Yeah, I remember that, that
people will say, you know, if you're ever in such and such,
let's go play around. And I'm like, man, I'm in and
out of that place because I have a job to do, right?
So I don't have time to really go play, even though I
appreciate it. And I'm with you.
It's like every day you pinch yourself and you're like, my
gosh, I get to do this thing with disc golf content and stuff
like that. But then some days I'm like
5:00, I'm done. I'm out.
Don't tell me, don't talk to you about disc golf.
I'm going to go watch another episode of A Night of the Seven
Kingdoms or something like that, you know, to get to get away.
By the way, have you watched that The Night?
Do you? Are you A Game of Thrones?
Do you watch? That that is actually one of the
big shows that at this point I've never seen and I feel like
it's gone so long now that I haven't seen it.
I'm just going to, I'm kind of OK with sticking it out even
though I love like sort of fantasy based content like that.
It's. Pretty, I'm sure at some point.
It's pretty intense and it's got some like a question like times.
I'm like, really, should I be watching this?
This is like eating me. But but it's good.
It's good acting, good cinematography, good
storytelling. Anyway, that was way off Change
it. I only thought that because I
literally watched an episode last night.
It was a good episode. My, my wife does a good job of
like bringing me back to earth in the, the sense of like, I
love TV's and movies, TV's and movies, TV and movies, but I
just don't do it sometimes because I just end up working on
whatever and it's like, hey, watch this and I'm like, I kind
of fight it, but then I do it and I'm like, that was awesome.
Like why was I being weird about taking the time to do this thing
that I enjoy? It's like video games like that
was such a huge part of my childhood and very rarely do I
find myself doing it nowadays. Do you have any influencers or
content readers that you watch out outside of disc golf that
kind of help give you ideas or just is entertaining for you?
I don't know about give me ideas per SE, but YouTube that I enjoy
because I feel like I mostly consume YouTube.
If anyone back to cooking, if anyone enjoys like Maddie
Matheson guy is just like 45 year old.
He used to have He was like a classically trained chef from
Canada that had just covered in tattoos and got into like had a
lot of like problematic years. And now it's completely turned
his life around just by cooking and putting out his his content
on YouTube. And it's the coolest thing to
watch this very loud personality and just doesn't care what
people think, which I definitely pulled a lot of inspiration from
other other YouTube that I consume like I watch.
I would watch like Curtis Connor, I guess is one that I
would I did like a little bit. It's like a little too sound
effects and like, whoa, that was crazy sort of stuff.
But I I love it for what it is. I just feel like if I were to
bring that over to another round, it'd be like a little too
like crazy gimmicky. I'm sure I'm missing some, but
those are the two that come to my come to mind, right?
Now do you have, do you have a Like sometimes I will take if
I'm, if I'm at a certain point and I'm like, I don't want to
start a new project until lunch or at the end of the day, I'll
scroll purposely on TikTok looking for memes or trends.
Do you often do that, or is it such part of what you do through
the day that you find trends or good ideas?
Bobby, I am perpetually online and I feel like I have very
good, I said good restrictions for myself of when to be on post
and then just go away and work on other stuff.
But it's impossible where it can field like this.
If I do go on, it'll be funny enough.
It's me finding like original audio or like cool music to use
for another round. Like that's pretty much it.
It's just like when I get on that part of the algorithm,
we're just throwing me banger after banger.
I love that. Just save like 20 pieces of
audio at a time. But no, not really like going
through looking for ideas again, it's just like, what ideas do I
come up with as we're doing content or I consume, obviously
I consume disc golf content. So maybe someone puts out a
video and I'm like, man, great video, but I wish they did this.
So it's like, maybe I'll explore that in the future.
Yeah, OK. Another bounce around question.
So for me, you know, I, I am Dynamic Discs, right?
And so they really want me to concentrate on Dynamic Discs,
which is fantastic. It's great, right?
I can have an endless supply, but when I was able to do all
well, I'm not able to. But when my job was to do the
other three brands as well, I found that a little bit easier
to come up with different ideas and always having things going
on. So my question is with you being
another round and being able to touch any brand you want to, it
feels like that's like, is it too much to cover or is that
good for you? Does that make sense?
In other words, you, you probably have releases all the
time with from all the brands. How do you work?
Yeah. How do you work through that?
Oh, this is a perfect example of a question that I've just done
it, but I haven't actually thought about what the process
is. Yeah, I I would say overall it's
a net positive. Like I love there are
manufacturers that we know are popular and a lot of times
that's what a lot of people are going to want to go off go after
and see content of. But sometimes being able to do
content for some of the other brands, it's like, it's a sigh
of relief. Like it's, it's very refreshing
to go and see like a different brand sometimes to see how they
fly and go back to your roots. And that's nice.
So I I wouldn't consider that balance like a tricky part.
You always want to, you know, being another round at the end
of the day, another round is like a business that is trying
to sell frisbees. So maybe there are some ideas
that are like, that would be so cool to do.
We could never do it because like we have a certain framework
that we kind of have to work around.
Right. But no, I I don't get
overwhelmed by at this point, I think starting out, like I said,
I, I for sure did, but now it's gotten into a little bit more of
a like a rhythm as a calendar that shows when certain
deadlines have to be done by and I just, I just get it done.
Nice, All right, Nate, well, I appreciate you coming on the
show and I enjoyed learning more about you for sure.
I would love to have you on like like I would want to see six
months from now after we go through a whole disc offseason
of, you know, the tournaments and busyness and check up on how
you're doing with the podcast. Because I'm, I've been doing
that with people saying, hey, in six months, let's check back in,
see where we're at, see if things have changed.
I think people will love following that journey.
So I'd love to have you back on. But I did enjoy learning more
about your stuff. I know that obviously people
know if they want to see more of your stuff, go follow another
round. And I notice you do a lot of
disc golf stuff on your own account.
So I'm assuming you want love people to check that out as
well. What what the on Instagram or
YouTube? Do you have your own YouTube
channel or is another round kind of your outlet for YouTube?
I used to make like a lot of content personally, I did like a
couple of videos on YouTube, but I'm I'm not going to be doing
anything there for the foreseeable future.
They're welcome to follow me on Instagram because I do post
funny stuff on my story and I will post occasionally there,
but it's the majority of my time and creative energy for sure
goes towards another round. So make sure to go there.
You can yeah, follow us on Instagram, go to our YouTube,
check that stuff out. Maybe you enjoy it.
And yeah, just appreciate all the people that have reached out
over the last year or so and gassed me up and just been
guiding me in the right direction.
I love it. That's fantastic.
Well, I, I tell people all the time, being a person that
started media, got into disc golf and have been able to do a
job I love. I it tickles me to death to
watch you young guys fall into this as well to be able to do
something you love. So I think it's fantastic.
So keep up the great work dude. And I know this won't be the
last time you and I connect. I'm sure we'll be working
together in the future projects as well.
Bobby, I actually wanted to ask you a question.
Oh, that's right. I have, I forgot that segment.
Yes, OK. So this is the part where.
I got you you. Get to ask me anything you want
and I will answer it. I was curious from your
perspective, like what do you, what do you want people to take
away from Dynamic Discs like you traditionally?
I know people have said that you guys kind of catered to more of
like a recreational audience. You had things and like I
remember the era of Dynamic discs putting out like like that
was pretty much disc golf YouTube back in like 2021, that
sort of time frame. Kyle, like one of the Co owners
of another round was on team dynamic and he would talk about
glass blown open back in the day and just what a crazy event it
was and it would just bring all these people together.
So what do you what type of narrative are you trying to have
people walk away with, or what do you want people to understand
about the brand? I I want to and it's always been
this way. This has always been my
approach. I want to be the guy that like
it's a, it's a Saturday or it's a Friday night and you're like
Saturday is going to be a gorgeous day.
Let's go play some disc golf. Let's not worry about let we can
keep scores if you want to, but I'm not going to keep score.
I just want to get out there and I want to shoot really well.
I want to try that new disc I just picked up and I just want
to have a good time. I want to be the guys that you
want to do that with and just go play around a disc golf.
And yeah, so if you're if you're like, but I want to GoPro, fine.
We've got great products to help you GoPro.
I'll help you along the way. See if I can get you some great
discs to help you GoPro. But really, I just want to be
the guys that you want to hang out and have a good time with.
That's awesome. I mean, that's we're kind of the
same in that regard then, because it's exactly that's what
I want out of disc golf. And I know a lot of people are
super into the competitive scene and it's just never, it's just
never really done anything for me.
It's like those, like I said at the top, just those summer
nights that I can go out and hang out with like my wife or my
father-in-law, my my buddies and just be able to go play like
late Friday night at Maple Hill. At least that's what it used to
be before I moved down here. But yeah, just that's just how I
got enjoyment from the sport trying to.
Do this. Yeah.
When I can go play around with my grandson and my granddaughter
and we're just out throwing discs and my grandson's like
bombing it, killing it, Right. 17 year old kid and he's bombing
it. Let's go.
Yeah. My granddaughter can't hardly
throw, but she's laughing every time we throw.
I'm like, this is, this is disc golf to me.
This is, this is fun, right? Or, or I'm hanging out with my
buddy Braxton. We go play around and we're just
talking about life. You know, he's going to get
married and life and stuff. That's I'm hanging out with my
Bros, right? But we just happen to be doing
some disc golfing and I, I think that's fantastic.
And that's what I want people to see Dynamic Discs as.
Yeah, it's like a similar Ave. as it's like people when you eat
or like sit down and have dinner together, it's like, oh,
everyone like shares their day. I feel like disc golf does the
same thing. Like you all finally have an
Ave. to be able to like connect with your friends and you're
like, talk about meaningful things.
So yeah. And when that one guy has that
fantastic shot and it's just like high 5, you know, like, oh
dude, it almost went in and hit the cage.
Oh my God. Oh, you know, that whole
feeling, it's like, dude, and I mean, I don't mean to get warm
and fuzzy, but that's like, that's a moment, man.
You've got that moment with that group.
So next time you go play that course, you're like, dude,
member hole 5, you threw that motive and you were like, right?
And it was, man, remember that. Let's see if you can do it
again. I mean, those are the moments I
live for. Yeah, we act like it's cheesy,
but us throwing a good shot is the reason that we go back out
there again, because you're like, Oh yeah, brother, I need
to do that again right now. That's it.
That's why I got to play this again next weekend.
Thank you. Yeah, no.
Any other questions? No, that'll do it for me.
No, I appreciate you having me on it.
Was a lot of fun appreciate it Yeah, absolutely.
We'll have you on again for sure.
So all right, I'll let you get back to your day, but I
appreciate it again for being on the show of.
Course, yeah, later, everyone all.
Right. Take care.